The Confessionals - 216: COVID-19 | Ready or Not with Wes Germer

Episode Date: March 16, 2020

On Episode 216: COVID-19, we will be talking about all things COVID-19! In the first half of the show, we will be speaking about some things I have found that made my gears start turning. To me, it se...ems that this COVID-19 was known to be coming by certain groups of people. In the second half of the show, we opened up the phone lines for people to call in and share what's on your mind. LINK REFERENCED IN SHOW: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/covid19BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/join Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3

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Starting point is 00:00:32 with a three years of guarantee, and eight years of guarantee in the battery, and the support of the RedB of services official. Spotikar.com. Welcome to the show, everybody. What you're about to hear is actually a recording that we did last night live on YouTube. You see, I opened up the show
Starting point is 00:00:47 with about a 45-minute monologue where I shared a lot of information that I had found about COVID-19. After that monologue, I actually transitioned the show into a live call-in show where people were able to call in, ask questions, share comments, and concerns, and generally just think together about what is going on with COVID-19.
Starting point is 00:01:06 All the while, I was co-hosted with my friend Wes Gomer from Sasquatch Chronicles. This is a show I was planning on putting up on the podcast stream for Tuesday's public show, but I'm putting it up today on Monday. So this is this week's show, but we're putting it up on Monday because I feel like by tomorrow on Tuesday, this information may not be relevant. So I hope you guys enjoy this. I hope it gets you thinking. And feel free to go to YouTube and subscribe to our YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:31 YouTube channel so that you don't miss the next live event. I think an epidemic either naturally caused or intentionally caused is the most likely thing to cause, say, 10 million excess deaths. It's pretty surprising how little preparedness there is for it. Coronavirus are a family of viruses that range from the common cold to MERS coronavirus, which is Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, Coronavirus, and SARS. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus. Coronaviruses are circulating in animals, and some of these coronaviruses have the capability of transmitting between animals and humans.
Starting point is 00:02:15 We call that a spillover event. Chinese health authorities are still working to identify the virus behind a pneumonia outbreak in the central city of Wuhan. According to authorities, the number of cases has increased to 44, with 11 of them in serious condition. The number of cases that's gone from a few dozen last week to nearly 300 now. and health officials have confirmed that the virus can spread from person to person. Now we're learning of new cases indicating that the virus has the potential to spread from human to human,
Starting point is 00:02:46 proving that it does not only spread from animals to humans. At least 14 healthcare workers in China have now contracted the virus after treating infected patients. Hong Kong reported two more cases linked to Wuhan flu, bringing the city's total cases to five. And once the virus touches down, sometimes all it takes. one sneeze to spread the infection throughout the community. At least six people have died, and the number of confirmed cases has quadrupled to nearly 300. There are no specific treatments for coronaviruses, but symptoms can be treated. Rumors on social media alleged that the outbreak in Wuhan could be linked to sounds.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Authorities say it is untrue, and eight people were detained for spreading fake news online. Like Japan, Thailand and South Korea. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or a story you like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com.
Starting point is 00:04:01 That's The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, the Confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section and you can reach me that way as well. Either it works for me, just get a hold of me. If you want more shows every week on a weekly basis, we release a bonus episode to the website only, and that is the confessionalspodcast.com. So if you want that extra episode, you got to be a member. So go ahead and sign up at the join button on the confessionalspodcast.com, and you will gain access to extra member shows every Thursday. Now, this is a bonus different type of episode.
Starting point is 00:04:34 We were not planning on doing this until about, I don't know, late last night I started considering this morning, I decided I was going to do it. And this show is obviously by the title of it about COVID-19, the coronavirus. This is something, friends, that I have been following since the beginning of January, I'd say probably the first week of January, I started following this whole thing in China. All a while, people were throwing their hands up in the air, talking about impeachment. That's all the media was talking about was impeachment. And I'll tell you, friends, right off the bat, your media did you a great disservice when it comes to covering the coronavirus. When they could have been covering things that truly mattered on a global scale, like the coronavirus and what we're experiencing right.
Starting point is 00:05:16 now, they were too busy, 24-7 covering an impeachment that I don't care if you're on the left or the right, you knew it wasn't going to actually go through. And they were forcing this issue and blinding you from what was really happening in China. And let me just break down some of these actual numbers and dates for you so you understand where we're coming from. Yes, I am heated about this. I've been quiet about it for a very long time because everybody who I talked to said I was overreacting. And so I eventually just got to the point where I'm going to prepare me and my family, but I'm not going to talk a whole lot of bad because everybody's telling me I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Well, if I'm crazy, that's fine. I'd rather be overprepared than underprepared. But let me run some of these dates by you. So on December 3rd, 2019 is when they actually voted to put the impeachment into place. They were going to go forward with the impeachment, which means in November was when they were doing all those days and weeks of, debates and bringing people in to, you know, testify as to, is there enough information about impeachment?
Starting point is 00:06:22 On December 18th is when they actually put the impeachment through. The trials started on January 16th, 2020. And then on February 5th, 2020 is when the acquittal happened. So just last month, a little more than a month ago, this whole circus of the impeachment was gone. It was over. Done. And then the media could then show. their focus on things that actually mattered.
Starting point is 00:06:47 The entire time, they are ignoring this whole thing that was brewing beneath the service that you had no clue about because the mainstream media does not inform the people of what really actually matters. We're facing a pandemic. And there are people out there right now who are choosing to say, hey, the mainstream media is saying that we're facing a pandemic. So I'm going to believe the opposite. Trust me, do not believe the opposite.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I've been following this for a very long time. this is not a hoax. You can take a bad situation that's very real and capitalize on it. Never waste a crisis, right? That's the old saying. Never let a good crisis go to waste. And that's what they're doing, if anything. So if you want to say it's a hoax, it's not a hoax, but they're definitely not going to take this crisis and put it to waste. They're going to use it to advance a certain agenda that they want for themselves. Whatever that is, we can theorize on that. But the fact of the matter is, they will do such things because they have in the past. If you want to know it's coming in the future, you look at history,
Starting point is 00:07:48 you look at the past because the past always, always, always rewrites itself. I am losing it right now, friends, as far as how I'm going to be talking and setting a tone right now. I hope I don't have you guys turning it off. Just listen to me, hear me out. This is serious. A few days ago, I was in my office. It was probably about 5 o'clock in the morning. I was working on things as far as the show goes. And I was looking at the coronavirus map that we all have come accustomed to looking at. I've been looking at it for, it was like the beginning of January. I found this. I started looking at it. And since then, obviously, it's blown up. It's grown a lot. There's a lot of new numbers that are shown on this screen. But I've been following this for a very long time. And it got me thinking.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And before I reveal to you what I want to share with you today, I want to take a step back here for you. By now, some of you, maybe not many of you, I don't know. Every time I say what I'm about to say, people are like, event what? They don't know what I'm talking about. So I'm going to inform you on something that happened back in October of 2019 that people seem not to know about. I think it's very important that you know about this. it's something called Event 201. Event 201 was taking place back in October of 2019.
Starting point is 00:09:20 There are three organizations that kind of hosted it and pulled it together. The first organization I want to say was Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The second, the World Economic Forum. And the third, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. These three entities came together to host an event called Event 201. What does that mean? Over the last years, I want to say, let's just say 10 to 15 years, they have started noticing that on a global level,
Starting point is 00:09:53 we have been experiencing epidemics on the rise. Every year we're experiencing more and more epidemics. In fact, they say that we average right now about 200 epidemics a year. And so what Event 201 was was supposedly, and I say supposedly, in quotes, a tabletop exercise of a think tank. They came together. They pulled different people from different organizations, governmental agencies,
Starting point is 00:10:19 all together in a one location to play out what would happen if one of these epidemics became a pandemic. That's why they call it 201, taking the 200 that we know happened every year, and then you add one more to that that becomes a pandemic. How is that going to affect the world? And so they open up this entire, event with informing the audience because there was an audience there and there was a table of,
Starting point is 00:10:43 let's just say, 15 or 20 people who are actually participating in this. They opened up the entire event telling people exactly what was going on, how this was all going to play out. They even had a video that played from some executive with the World Health Organization, kind of just saying, thank you very much for doing this. You're doing a great service to the world, this, that, and the other. I can't make it today, but thank you for being here. At one point, the lady who's hosting the event says, from this point forward, we are starting the event. And from that point forward, everybody who spoke actually spoke as if what they're talking about is actually happening around them in the moment. When you hear these people speak and you can hear these people speak,
Starting point is 00:11:25 you can go online, go to YouTube and look up Event 201 201. They have put their video that they filmed during this event up for you to consume. You can actually go there and watch how this whole thing played out. And I'll tell you this right now. If you want to know what's coming down the road, if you want to see into the future, if you want to have a crystal ball and look and see exactly what's going to happen, watch what happened in Vent 201 because they were laying it out. They were putting out the blueprint of what to do when this happens. I believe that they knew this was going to happen. And I'll tell you exactly why here in a few minutes. But let's backtrack here, event 201. So they start this whole event and they start playing different videos that they had
Starting point is 00:12:13 pre-made of fictional, quote-unquote fictional people coming forward and saying that this is a pandemic. This is what we're experiencing. I'll tell you this, friends, the very thing they used in this entire event to spawn a pandemic was none other than the coronavirus. Let me say that again. The event 201 used one thing to spawn a pandemic in this tabletop exercise
Starting point is 00:12:45 of a think tank of many people from other organizations including UPS, transportation, was none other than a novel coronavirus that was transmitted by bats to pigs to people that eventually became
Starting point is 00:13:03 efficiently transmittable from person to person leading to a severe pandemic. That's what they decided to use. Now, there is a common misperception that COVID-19 coronavirus is something new. And people are saying, but look, on our Lysol, it says it kills coronavirus. I'll tell you this right now. There are now five strands of coronavirus. MERS is one of them. SARS is one of them.
Starting point is 00:13:30 This is the fifth strand of coronavirus, very new. we don't know how to react to it. We don't have immune systems for it. We don't know what kills it. There is no vaccine. People who are telling you to get the flu vaccine because this will help you, it won't help you. This is completely new to the human race. An event 201 back in October of 2019 did the tabletop exercise where they played this whole scenario out,
Starting point is 00:13:58 a scenario that at the end of it, they believed that they failed because 65 million people died. from Event 201, the pandemic, from the novel coronavirus, that started from bats to pigs to people. Now, if that doesn't show you, but wait, there's more. You can go ahead and look at the Event 201, and you can do your own research on it. Go to their website, Event 201. In fact, when you go to their website, Event 201,
Starting point is 00:14:29 on the very front page, they have a description of what they're all about. And there's a statement. Let me read you the statement. In the statement that they just put up on the website, it says in October 2019, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted by a pandemic tabletop exercise called Vent 201 with partners, the World Economic Forum, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Recently, the Center for the Health Security has received questions about whether the pandemic exercise predicted the current novel coronavirus outbreak in China. To be clear, the Center for the Health Security and Partners did not make a prediction during our tabletop exercise. For the scenario, we modeled a fictional coronavirus pandemic, but we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction. Instead, the exercise served to highlight preparedness and
Starting point is 00:15:24 response challenges that would likely arise in a very severe pandemic. We are not now predicting that the NCOV 2019, also known as COVID-19, coronavirus, whatever you want to call it, outbreak will kill 65 million people. Although our tabletop exercise included a mock novel coronavirus, the inputs we used for modeling the potential impact of that fictional virus are not similar to the NCOV 2019. First of all, I want to say, how is it not similar? I'm not going to run through every detail of Event 201 with you guys today. If you want, you can go ahead, look it up, it's real, it's online, you can do your own research
Starting point is 00:16:08 on it. But how is it not similar? You use the very virus that we're dealing with today. And on top of it, in your scenario, your cooked up playground, fake fictional scenario, you said it went from bats to pigs to humans. Now, I understand there's a lot of... lot of debate as to how this started and stuff, but one of the hot topic conversations is that it started in bats.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Professionals have said it started in bats in the wet markets of China. But I want to highlight something here that they were saying in the statement that I wanted to kind of tell you guys right now. A couple times in this short statement that I read to you, it says predicted, the word predicted. I believe that they didn't predict this. I truly believe they did not predict this. because you can't predict something that you know is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You can't predict something that you know is happening around you right now. And that's where I think this is going. I think they knew. I woke up last week and I was working in the office, like I said earlier in this show, and I started thinking about that map that I've been looking at on a daily basis for months now. And I started thinking, hang on a second. When did they create this website? I've been looking at this website for quite a long.
Starting point is 00:17:28 time. Now, I'm not a computer genius. I understand that. I made my website, but it's kind of simple. Squarespace, plug and play. I don't know coding. But how fast can you get a website up and running on this level? Maybe fast. I don't know. But I found it odd that it was up so fast because I've been looking at this since like January, straight up. And so I was like, let me just have somebody look at this. So I sent the website, let me tell you something real quick. Before I go any further, this website that I've been looking at, I've failed to mention one huge detail about this website. It's hosted by Johns Hopkins. So the Johns Hopkins that hosted and put together this event 201 is also directly involved with this website that we all look at for the numbers of the global pandemic.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Is that odd? I don't know. Is it a coincidence? I don't know. Do I believe in coincidences? Yeah, I've said before on the show that I don't believe in coincidences. I've changed my mind on that. I kind of do believe in coincidences. Not a ton. But I think that sometimes things that happen in life that are just coincidental. But how many times do we need to have mass problems, whether it's 9-11 or the JFK killing or now coronavirus, all these things that we're called conspiracy things. about. How many times do we have to have these major events in human history have tons of coincidences tied to it before we say it's not a coincidence? This is not a coincidence in my mind. I might be wrong. I'm just a dumb truck driver with the podcast, but I don't think this is a coincidence. And before we go any further in on this website, let me tell you one more thing that I'm thinking about when it comes to the idea of conspiracy theorists. The very people who hosted the event 201, those three organizations, let's throw in the World Health Organization as well, who? Any of those organizations would catch wind of what I'm saying right now, they would say
Starting point is 00:19:36 I'm a conspiracy theorist and that I should shut up because I don't know what I'm talking about. Any one of them, there are tons of people out in the world right now that would listen to my voice right now probably aren't, but if they were, they would say he is a crazy conspiracy theorist and he should just shut his mouth. We don't need to hear from him. Let's censor him. Shut him up. Let's shut him up.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Keep him from talking. Control his speech. Or well, here we come. But those very people find it completely fine to get together in October of 2019 and play a game of what if. It's okay if they take certain ideas and thoughts and expound on them and theorize how things could conspire.
Starting point is 00:20:28 It's okay for them to do that. But if I do it or if you do it, we're crazy. That's a problem, friends. Because there are people out there that are trying to control your minds. Yes, I've said it before, mainstream media, trying to control your minds. But there are so many people that are directly involved with the mainstream media that are trying to mold and manipulate your minds and cultivate how you think. And they've done a damn good job of it.
Starting point is 00:20:53 it for decades. These people hosted Event 201. Johns Hopkins University. Johns Hopkins. The very Johns Hopkins that has a direct tie to this website we all look at. The website that I've been looking at for months. And so I sent this website to a guy who I know who's very good with computers, apps. He's a builder.
Starting point is 00:21:20 He knows it all. And I asked him, I said, I don't know if this is possible. But could you look into this website? I don't know if it's possible, but please let me know, can you tell when this website was built? That's all I want to know. I want to know was it built January? Am I just crazy and, you know, don't remember when I started looking at this website? Or was it sooner?
Starting point is 00:21:46 Wasn't sure. And so I wanted him to look into it. And he did. And he got back to me. Let me tell you, friends, I don't think. think this pandemic was something that snuck up on us? I think it's been coming. And there are people who knew it was coming who didn't inform us. There were entities, groups of people who should have been informing us, but did not because they were too wrapped up in their own political identities
Starting point is 00:22:17 and worrying about how they're either going to defend their president or get their president impeached. And they didn't tell you, they didn't tell me what was coming down the pike. Something that's going to affect millions of people. Projected. But let me tell you something that you need to know. I might be wrong on this. I'm more than willing to be wrong on this. I hope to God I'm wrong on this. Just like I hope I'm overreacting to this whole thing and it's just the sniffles and nothing's going to happen and we're going to all be okay. But you need to know something that I found that I think you should know. My friend got back to me about when.
Starting point is 00:23:01 this website was built. And he didn't tell me when it was built because he couldn't see that. But what he could see was something that I think is far more telling. You see, on December 31st, 2019, China went to the World Health Organization and told them officially that they had an unusual case of the pneumonia in Wuhan. That's late December. Dates are varied. People say it wasn't December 31st, but it was late December. I'll just say, for lack of better argument, December 31st, last day of the year, 2019, China went to the World Health Organization and told them that they had a strange, unusual pneumonia in Wuhan. The last day of the year. From that point, the World Health Organization started making plans accordingly, started talking about it,
Starting point is 00:23:55 but don't worry about it. Don't panic. Nobody should panic. It's okay. We can contain this. It's not an epidemic, it's not a pandemic, it's just the sniffles. On December 11th, 2019, this website, link is in the description, was last modified on December 11th, 2019. Now, I'm not saying it was last modified as in these numbers that they're putting out are cooked up pre-implanted numbers into the system that are set to release over time to make us think that this thing is growing and all that stuff. What I'm saying is, I believe that it was last modified as in the coding of this website, building the website, getting it ready for launch
Starting point is 00:24:39 was last modified on December 11, 2019. You can see the screenshot and the picture of what he sent me on the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, to this episode right now. That's 20 days before China went to the World Health Organization and told them that they have an unusual case of pneumonia in Wuhan. Now listen, I'm not saying that up until December 31st, they had no idea it was there. I believe that they knew there was something going on leading up to that, but they did not officially go to the World Health Organization,
Starting point is 00:25:23 which is the first organization you're going to go to. You're not going to go to John's He's Health. Hopkins and tell them, hey, the Chinese government has something to tell you. We got an unusual case in pneumonia. No, they're going to go to the World Health Organization. That's what you do. But 20 days before that, Johns Hopkins was designing this website and modifying it. That's the last time it was modified, December 11, 2019.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Now, people will say that they knew about this coronavirus on November 17, 2019. They'll say, I'm wrong. They'll say, Tony, you're wrong. It says, they say, November 17th, 2019 was the first reported case of the coronavirus. Wrong. December 17th, 2019 was the first case of the known coronavirus that they traced it to. They traced back to November 17th. November 17th wasn't a day that was an aha moment for the Chinese government.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Hindsight, they're looking back. They're tracing back. to November 17th, 2019. In fact, let me read you this article out of China, South China Morning Post. This is from China. According to the government data seen by The Post, a 55-year-old man from Hubie province could have been the first person to have contracted COVID-19 on November 17th. They are writing this in hindsight.
Starting point is 00:26:57 They're not telling you this is when they found it. saying this is what they're tracing it back to. It wasn't on November 17th. They said, hey, we have something here. They had no idea. They thought it was the flu. Let me continue reading. From that day onwards, one to five new cases were reported each day by December 15th, December 15th, four days after the last modification of this website I'm talking about, the total number of infections stood at 27. The first double-digit day rise was reported on December 17th, a month after November 17th. And by December 20th, the total number of confirmed cases had reached 60. On December 27th, a doctor told China's health authorities that the disease
Starting point is 00:27:46 was caused by a new coronavirus. December 27th. Now remember, this is information coming from China, which means we are being allowed to read this article from a communist country. We are reading this article, which means it has been manipulated. This is what they're allowing us to know. This is what they're allowing us to read and see. Does it mean it's true? Does it mean that they're hiding things? Almost 100% yes.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Almost 100% yes. By December 27th, more than 180 people had been infected, though doctors might not have been aware of all of them at that time. That's a very key thing to remember throughout this entire. process, that even though they're reporting a certain number of cases, it doesn't mean that's all there is. It means if you have 180 cases, you probably have about a thousand out there that you haven't found. That's how this spreads. It's not just touching, friends. It's also breathing the air that somebody else breathe that had it. That's why this is so contagious. Let me keep reading.
Starting point is 00:28:54 By the final day of 2019, there's your 31st, the number of confirmed cases had risen to 266. on the first day of 2020, it stood at 381. So what I'm trying to share with you is that according to this post in China, they are telling us, if you read it clearly, it says it right there that as they look back, they're able to locate these dates. It wasn't reported as a current event in the moment problem. On December 15th, December 17th, December 20th, these are dates that they recorded. And looking back, they're able to.
Starting point is 00:29:31 to put together the timeline. But in the moment, they don't know. And in the moment, they didn't tell the World Health Organization. By the way, China's not going to tell the World Health Organization that they have some people with an unusual case of pneumonia until they're certain that they have a problem they can't contain within their borders, that the truth is going to get out. If the truth is not going to get out and they can contain the truth within their borders, they wouldn't have said a word.
Starting point is 00:30:01 But yet they did. and they probably knew a lot more was happening before they even told the World Health Organization on the 31st of December. It's only until they knew they couldn't hide it anymore from the world that they were going to say something officially. Because they had to shut down their government. They had to shut down their economy because of this. They took a hit and a communist country is not going to take an economic hit unless they absolutely have to. And their absolute have to is they're going to be exposed. So officially on December 31st, 2019, we have China making it official to the World Health Organization that they have a case.
Starting point is 00:30:42 They have a problem in Wuhan. Yet Johns Hopkins last modified this website that we all look at on the 11th of December. Now, let's take it back to Event 201. Event 201 put together by none other than Johns Hopkins, the World Economic, Economic Forum and Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Those three entities. We can focus on so many more. This is so deep and rich with information, guys.
Starting point is 00:31:16 You have to do your own research. Before the shut off the internet, we don't know what's going to happen. We're getting in deep here, friends. Johns Hopkins helped organize Event 201, and I don't think it's because they were going to plan a biotech. I don't think the World Economic Forum was planning a biotac. I don't think Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was planning a biotech. We can go there.
Starting point is 00:31:40 We can go with all these conspiracies. This thing is rich with conspiracies. But let's just try to think about this. If John Hopkins organized Event 201 and they had this website already built and last modified on December 11th, there's two things here. One, they created this website as they were doing the Event 201. And it just so happened that this website came in handy then with an actual real-life scenario. That they decided, hey, you know what? We are doing this event 201.
Starting point is 00:32:19 We should really make a website that the entire world can see the pandemic numbers and stuff. Yeah, that's a great idea. We should definitely do that. That would be a great tabletop exercise for our tabletop exercise. Or after they're done doing the tabletop exercise, like, you know what? We should really start working on a website just in case one day this happens. you never know, maybe a few years or a hundred years. We don't know, but we should really prepare now.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And so what we're experiencing with this website is utter preparation, just to complete preparation that just kind of happened coincidental. It just happened to work out the way it worked out. You know, we used the coronavirus as, you know, our virus that was going to create a pandemic. It was coincidental. We said that it was going to go from bats, pigs to humans. It's coincidental. Or,
Starting point is 00:33:04 we knew that there was something going on in the world. Maybe it wasn't even Wuhan. We don't know. But maybe they had an idea what was happening and what was right around the corner. And instead of gathering all these people from different organizations, government entities, and taking the risk of it leaking out that they're secretly meeting to talk about how they're going to prevent a world pandemic, instead of doing that and it leaking out and causing chaos,
Starting point is 00:33:34 why don't we make it a think tank, a tabletop exercise, where we pull these people in and just what if? We're going to call it, I don't know, let's call it Event 201 because we know we're averaging about 200 epidemics a year. Let's call it a Vent 201 because that one extra epidemic could turn into a pandemic. So let's just call it that. And what we're going to do is we're going to call it that and we're going to pull these different people in. And I don't think we should let everybody know that what we're doing is for real. So Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, World Economic Forum, and Johns Hopkins, we're going to know what's really going on. And maybe some of these people like, I don't know, the host of the event, we're going to let them know.
Starting point is 00:34:12 They need to know. But let's just bring these people in and lead them to believe that they're helping humanity in the future by doing this tabletop exercise. That's just a think take. Nothing to worry about. What if they knew what was coming down the pike and they just didn't. tell us. What if Bill Gates stepping down from the board at Microsoft isn't a coincidence? What if Bill knows something? If you're still with me after this entire rant, hang in there gets better. You see, I've been following this for a very long time. At least two months,
Starting point is 00:35:03 I've been paying attention to this. And I've been trying to warn people. And every time I warn somebody, they're like, oh, it's not serious. It's nothing. I'm like, no, you have to pay attention. This is serious. We just should focus on this. We should pay attention. It's nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And then as time went on, it got a little bit more serious. People are like, ah, it's nothing. It's just the flu, Tony. It's just the flu. It's not just the flu. Please pay attention. And then as time went on and got even more serious. Ah, Tony, it's not, it's just like the flu, Tony.
Starting point is 00:35:30 It's just like the flu. Nothing to worry about. No, it's not just like the flu. We need to focus on this. And then I went into work on Friday. And all the guys that I was talking to about this two months ago looked at me with a straight face and they said, Tone, you were right. I've been telling you what's been going on, but you weren't listening to me.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And they're all on board now. They understand what I was talking about. This is for real. And they wouldn't be in this situation if their mainstream media would have focused on it back in the beginning of January instead of focusing on it in the mid-February. That's a month and a half of development. You guys see how fast this is developing day by day, hour by hour, the situation changes. We wasted a month and a half of informing the public because the mainstream media was too focused on defending or trying to get the president kicked out of office when there was something so much more pertinent at hand. And they just would have focused in and talked about things that actually matter to the world.
Starting point is 00:36:29 World health. This was a world health situation. yet there are still people out there right now that are saying they're listening to my voice. I know you're there. I know you're listening to me right now. And you're saying, Tony, you're blowing this way out of proportion. It's just like the flu. More people die from the flu every year than this coronavirus, COVID-19, that they're trying to make us all scared about.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I do agree with you that they will take any crisis and use it to their advantage. But it doesn't mean that them taking a crisis and using it to their advantage. It doesn't mean that it's not a crisis. Let me tell you guys something that I put on Facebook as a Facebook post and I'm just going to read it to you guys. Hopefully it informs you. Year one of the flu. 1918. 500 million people worldwide became affected with the virus.
Starting point is 00:37:28 50 million people worldwide died from the virus. that's a 10% death rate. 675,000 people in the United States died from the virus. More people died during 1918 flu epidemic than all of the military and civilian deaths resulting from World War I. So if COVID-19 is just like the flu, as so many are nonchalantly saying, then buckle up because year one of the flu sucked big time. We are in year 102 of the flu with 100%. years of planning, adjusting, and medical advancements on how to fight, and we still have a ton of people die from it every year. The death toll of the flu in 1918 hit the world in three
Starting point is 00:38:14 waves, first wave. The flu was detected in the United States in the spring of 1918. There were more than 100 cases found at Camp Funston in Fort Riley, Kansas. During 1918, the United States was involved in World War I, which allowed the flu to spread very easily on a global level amongst our military into civilian life. Well, we're not in a war, Tony. No, well, maybe we're not in a World War. But you know what's something we have that they didn't have back then? The amount of travel that we have in 2020 that they didn't have back then. In fact, that would go as far as to say is, I would take the traveling throughout the globe of World War I over what we do on a daily basis here in 2020. Wave 2. During the fall of 1918,
Starting point is 00:39:01 a very large amount of the United States health professionals were serving in World War I. As a result, there was a large shortage of medical personnel inside the United States, which led to the flu being able to rage on with weak resistance. Business and factories were forced to close due to the vast amount of workers that were riddled with the flu. This, in turn, had a dramatic effect on the economy which suffered greatly. Wave 3. During the winter of 1918 and spring of 2019, we had a third wave of deaths come. In the summer of 1919, the third wave died down, but not after the entire world was affected. Conservatively, one-third of the global population was infected with the flu virus, which resulted in 50 million people
Starting point is 00:39:51 dead. Newer estimates showed that possibly 100 million people may have died from the flu, in 1918, not of 1918, in 1918, which would bring the death rate up to 20%. Some will say, but our medical is much better today than it was 102 years ago. True. But there is no medical cure for ignorantly being unprepared. The entire world is being punched in the face with the reality that we thought we were beyond such issues. We thought sophistication equaled isolation from Mother Nature's will enforce. As time grew larger between us and 1918, we grew intellectually lazy. We did not prepare for something like this because we thought, as a society, it was beneath us.
Starting point is 00:40:43 If every medical worker in the United States was given one N95 mask to wear per day, one N95 masks to wear per day, we would be out of. of masks in two days. We have just over 900,000 hospital beds nationwide with a 65% occupancy rate apart from COVID-19. As for a vaccine, don't be fooled into thinking it's just around the corner. It typically takes nine to 12 months, nine to 12 months to develop an initial prototype of a vaccine, but that doesn't mean it will work. For example, SARS started in 2002 and a successful vaccination was found in 2004.
Starting point is 00:41:38 If they miraculously come out with a vaccination within the next two to four weeks, then they either knew of COVID-19 far before the public did or they slapped a quick vaccination together and are praying to God that it works and doesn't kill more people. I would not be the first person in line for that quickly produced vaccination. If it's obvious by now, personally, I view this very seriously. I am not in a panic, but I am being extra vigilant on how I handle myself in public and at home. I have a pregnant wife to be concerned about, and if she were to fall ill to COVID-19 and get a fever, it could have effects on the baby's brain development, and I'm not willing to go there, so I'm
Starting point is 00:42:23 preparing. So when somebody says to you, it's just like the flu, you might just want to simply say to them, I sure hope not. No need to argue about it. Earlier, I said to you history repeats itself. There are tons of things that point to this being a very similar situation we found ourselves in back in 1918. Many people noticed how Iran popped off the charts very fast and early with COVID-19. This is most likely due to poor medical preparedness and simply poor hygienics due to their religious practices. It's just what it is. When the flu was introduced to Iran in 1918, it took out one fifth of its population.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Right now, Iran is third globally in number of cases of COVID-19. When Iran first started reporting their cases, they had about five deaths to 14 cases, which tells you they weren't telling the truth. Just like China, you can't bank on the fact that they're telling you the truth with their numbers. Iran certainly wasn't doing that because that death rate to confirm cases is preposterous. That's creeping up on 50% death rate to number of cases. They lied. They had far more.
Starting point is 00:43:44 How do we know? Just look at the pictures. They were digging mass graves. Iran has a serious problem. they're trying to keep it under wraps. They tried at least for a very long time. In final words, friends, in 1918, there were two wars going on. One had a visible enemy that could be defeated and would eventually end. The other war was against an unfamiliar enemy that was not visible. A hundred and two years later, that war continues. But now that invisible enemy just teamed up
Starting point is 00:44:22 with a partner. And we need to take it serious. What you're about to hear is a montage from one of my favorite shows in the world. Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis. He does amazing work. He is somebody who really helps shape and mold how I think in this world and how to view things. And he does fantastic mash-up montages. And to lighten the mood before we transition in the next part of the show where we're going to bring on West Gummer for a candid conversation about COVID-19, have a listen to this montage. We'll be right back. And Singapore joins other authorities across Asia on high alert after Chinese health officials
Starting point is 00:44:58 confirmed the virus could spread through human contact. More than 300 people in China have contracted the virus with six deaths reported in Wuhan. Coronavirus are a family of viruses. I think an epidemic either naturally caused or intentionally caused is the most likely thing to cause, say, 10 million excess deaths. It's pretty surprising how little preparedness to this board. Viruses. Viruses. Now we're learning of new cases indicating that the virus has the potential to spread from
Starting point is 00:46:17 human to human, proving that it does not only spread from animals to humans. At least 14 healthcare workers in China have now contracted the virus after treating infected patients. If anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it's most likely to be a highly infectious virus rather than a war. Not missiles, but microbes. And health officials have confirmed that the virus can spread from person to person. Welcome to part two of that episode that you just heard. I hope you guys are still with me. I know I went off on a tangent.
Starting point is 00:46:59 and I hope you guys are still here. Hopefully I didn't piss too many people off. But when I sit back and I watch what's happening around me and I've been paying attention to this for quite a while now. I mean, it literally, it's been the first to first week and a half of January. I've been focusing in on COVID-19. And back then, they weren't calling it COVID-19. It actually wasn't politically incorrect to call it the Wuhan flu. I've heard people say Kung Fu flu. But now you can't say even coronavirus. You got to say COVID-19. We are so caught up and not offending people that we're literally going to start dropping like flies around each other because we can't decide on what to call something so we don't even know it's here. I'm not going to get going again. I hope you
Starting point is 00:47:50 guys are here with me and you're doing okay. Welcome to this different type of episode. If you missed any part of it, it's okay. You can listen back on YouTube or we are going to broadcast this on Tuesday for our episode on Tuesday. I think this is something that we're going to want to get out to the people and just let them hear what we had going here tonight on YouTube Sunday, March, what was it, 15th, I believe. Now, we have, the phone lines are starting to fill up, friends. So if you want to call into the show, please hop on it now. I don't think we have unlimited lines. I think we have about 30 to 50 lines. And typically when I go live, I fill out about 25 of them on average. So if you want to get into the conversation,
Starting point is 00:48:34 bring some points up and stuff, feel free to call into the show. The number is at the top of your screen. It's 563-999-999-3685. That's 563-999-9-9-3685. Feel free to call in. You'll be able to hear the show while you're listening on hold. We will get to you as fast as we can. And if the lions fill up too fast tonight, friends. We might not be able to get to everybody, but please call in. Now, today we have Wes coming on the show. West Grimman from Sasquatch Chronicle, as many people know who Wes is. In fact, I think most of the audience probably knows. I've talked about him enough on the show, and many of you have found me through Wes's show. So I'm really excited about having Wes on the show tonight. And before we bring him on, I'm going to let the phone lines fill up a little bit more
Starting point is 00:49:21 because I don't want to talk to him by myself. No, I'm just kidding. Here we go. Let's bring on Wes right now. Wes, you're live, brother. How you do? doing. Ouch. No, I'm doing good, man. Thanks for, uh, thanks for having me on. That was quite the speech. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Listen, uh, I went after I did that, so my brother was here when I was actually recording that. And I was thinking to myself, like, am I going too hard in? And I look over at Jack and he just, his eyes are like popping out of his head, just looking at me. And I'm just like, I'm just going to keep going. And I had no idea how long I was going to go. Like, I was like, this is probably about 10, 15 minute talk.
Starting point is 00:49:57 It went up being freaking 40 minutes. I had no idea that I was going to be going off like that. But I guess I had a lot of things in my mind. But the reason why I had a lot of things in my mind is because I think that there's a lot of people that aren't taking this serious. And it needs to be taken serious. It's a very serious situation. We're going to get into some of the things.
Starting point is 00:50:14 We're going to get into some of the things that you've experienced out there where you're at in Portland. I mean, you're in an area that's very hot for this. Well, it's ground zero. I mean, Washington was ground zero for this thing. was it back in, I want to say, mid to late January, we had some cases pop up in the Seattle area. And so there was a lot of crap that happened out on the West Coast, but now it's just all over the country. My area is a hotbed for it now, too. In fact, my county as of today has 50 cases.
Starting point is 00:50:44 It started in my county, and my county two or three days ago where I live, actually, the governor said he's shutting the whole county down. Nobody's going to public facilities. Nobody's going to school. I still had to go to work. But I actually wound up taking some time off this week because I'm trying to just play my cards right because of my wife being pregnant. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's scary, man. And I didn't take it serious. I really didn't. I really thought that it was just a flu. And it's strange. I go to the doctor. This is last week, the end of last week, Thursday Friday. I don't remember now. And I was talking to my doctor about it. And I said, you know, I think really everyone's overreacting. It really is just a flu. And she said you couldn't be further from the,
Starting point is 00:51:33 you couldn't be more wrong about what you're saying. And I was a little taken back, you know, when she said that. And she kind of explained to me this virus, but the whole thing behind the virus, the reason why it's so dangerous is because how quickly it can be spread. You know, Tony, if you and I are sitting in the same room and I have pneumonia, you're just talking and you're a couple feet away from me. Your chances of getting pneumonia are pretty low. Unless that cough on you or we're sharing a drink or something. But with this corona, what she explained to me is you can be within six feet of someone who has it. And your chances of getting it are 90% or higher.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And just the whole description of the coronavirus is pretty terrifying, man, the symptoms that you get. She was saying the other reason, not only just the transmission rate from one person to the next, But the other problem that you run into, and she went through a long explanation, if I try and explain it, I'll sound like a moron. You know, her being a doctor. She went through and explained it. But she was explaining the genes in different people. And why did some people get cancer and some people don't? And it has to do with genes and people.
Starting point is 00:52:42 And in some genes and people, you can be off by like 0.0001%. So like, I get cancer, but you don't, Tony. And she said with the coronavirus, what happens is it mutates into something else. else. So by the time you get it, it's not quite the same virus it once was as it bounces from person to person and it becomes harder and harder to control. And she was describing the symptoms because in my mind, I really thought just a cold. And she said basically it starts out as the worst cold you've ever had. She goes, imagine the worst cold you've ever had times that by a thousand. Then as you start to get over that cold, you start to slowly feel better. Then you get the flu. She goes,
Starting point is 00:53:24 imagine the worst flu you've ever had, now times that by a thousand. And then as you're coming out of the flu and you start to feel better, now you get pneumonia, the worst pneumonia you've ever had. And that, it's that final stage that's killing people off. By the time you get the pneumonia, you're exhausted. Your whole body's tired of fighting and you just can't fight it off. And there's nothing really they can give you to get rid of the cold, the flu, pneumonia. You just have to weighted out. I mean, they can give you stuff to make you comfortable and whatnot, but they have nothing to cure it. And on last week, I think it was on Thursday, me and my son were talking, and he's in high school. And it came over the news. I think it was Friday morning. It might have
Starting point is 00:54:11 been Friday morning that all the schools were shutting down in Portland. They're telling people stay inside. If you can't pay your electric, you can't pay water, don't worry. You about it. I'm getting kind of in feedback. Do you hear that? I'm not hearing anything. What are you hearing yourself? That could be. Could be.
Starting point is 00:54:34 So anyway, I was telling it. So they shook down all the schools. They're telling people stay at home. If you can't pay your electric, you can't pay your water. Don't worry about it. And the store shelves are wiped out, man. I mean, it is a ghost town over here in the Portland area. It is an absolute ghost town.
Starting point is 00:54:51 You go down to Portland, there's no one down there. And I think the only place where you'll find a ton of people is in the grocery stores. And I've never seen anything like this, man. I mean, store shelves empty. Toilet paper. I know it's a big joke online, but it's hard to find toilet paper. It's hard to find bleach. It's hard to find hand sanitizer.
Starting point is 00:55:09 It's hard to find a lot of things. And my biggest concern is, obviously, with the death that's coming from this virus. Because I think it'll kill off young people, too. I don't think it's just, you know, if you're old and you're not, you know, your health's not so well. I think it's going to kill off a lot more people than that. And the doctor explained that to me too. She was saying, you know, in China, for example, everyone smokes. Everyone smokes.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So in China, when they get this virus, because there's a lot of smokers, they have a hard time fighting it off. She said, in America, we have the opposite problem. There's a lot of obese people. And so if you get this virus, you're a chance. aren't great unless you're like in super help on getting this i'm not trying to scare people by saying all this i'm just sharing what she shared with me facts can be scary and there's yeah and there's been weird and you know you were saying how a lot of people aren't taking this serious i think people are at least out here they are uh they're taking it serious but there is a lot of people out and
Starting point is 00:56:12 about you know still going to the casino still going out to eat still going in um you know out out and about. And I think two things are set to happen, and I hope I'm 100% wrong on this. I mean, believe me, I don't take any pleasure saying this. I think the stock market's going to crash. It's been teetering. I've been watching it very closely for the last week and a half. And that is funny, they dump $1.5 trillion into the stock market, and no one says a word. Did you see how that wasn't on the news? Like, really no one said a word. about that. But I don't think that's going to fix the stock market because if people aren't going to work, kids aren't going to school, eventually we're going to run out of money. We're so ill-prepared for
Starting point is 00:57:01 this. We're going to run out of money. And I think, and again, I hope I'm wrong, but I think the stock market is eventually going to crash. There's nothing they can do to stop it. And I also think martial law is coming. I think people better prepare for martial law. And there's already reports of in Portland of the military being down there or military presence. People are, it's more or less rumors at this point that the military is down there. But, you know, there's a picture even in Pennsylvania that looks like the National Guard. There's like 10 National Guards all suited up standing on the sidewalk. What are these guys doing down here?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Right. And so I think, I don't know that it was meant for us. I think here's my conspiracy theory. I think China, they had an issue with, protesters and you don't protest in China, that isn't America. You don't go out there and start protesting. And I think that it was a perfect virus to release to get rid of the protesters because if you release a virus to where if you and I are within six feet of each other and I can get it, I'm not going to go out and protest anymore. I'm going to go home so I can live. And I've also
Starting point is 00:58:13 been reading a report that China says, oh, we've almost, you know, almost everyone's back to health. We're all getting back to work. Well, the other thing that they don't talk about in the news media, if people have been watching, especially the RT News on YouTube, it's Russian news, but they actually give real news on there. They were showing these disease center places showing up, guys getting out in hazmat suits,
Starting point is 00:58:40 grabbing people off the street and throwing them in these vans. And if you watch the body language, people are running for their lives. I think they're going through executing those people. China's GDP right now is zero. And so they need a quick turnaround or they're going to be in big trouble. And so I think they just start killing off people. That's my opinion. I know it's a big statement to make.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm wrong on everything I'm saying, man. I take no pleasure. And I don't want to be right on any of this. But I honestly think the market's going to crash. I think, I honestly think Marshall Law is coming. And I think this is good. I think we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg yet on what's coming.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yeah, no, I absolutely agree with you, man. I think that there's definitely a lot more coming. And, you know, my wife has been telling me stuff all day. And I've been running around like crazy. I've been having a hard time remembering everything she's been dumping into my head. But one thing I was actually able to pull up because she sent me a link to it is the Guardian. dropped an article that says that the title says, UK coronavirus crisis to last until spring of 2021 and could see 7.9 million hospitalized.
Starting point is 00:59:56 7.9 million hospitalized just in the UK. Now, the UK is behind the United States in total count. So if that's 7.9 in the UK, what's it going to be like here? And like I said in my opening, whatever you're going to call it, lecture, speech, whatever you want to say it was. I said that we have just over 900,000 hospital beds in this country and 65% of them are already occupied. So we're not ready for this. And we're going to have to start converting gyms, school gyms, things like that into places where we care for people. This is going to really test our medal. I really do believe that we can get through this
Starting point is 01:00:40 if we stick together and we play smart. And that's the biggest. thing is can we stick together? We have, especially now, like, it's not like we're saying, oh, well, when our parents, this, that, and the other, like, we're in a state that we've never been before in this country, at least as far as I can think back. I mean, you have like the civil rights era and stuff like that, but the way that we are today, there is no common grounds. They've successfully manipulated the masses into identifying their personal identities through their politics. And so it divided the country. And so the idea of our country to actually come together and actually be productive and get through a crisis like this, it's hard to imagine. What do you
Starting point is 01:01:23 think about that? And then we'll get to the lines. Yeah, it is hard to imagine. And all the people that laugh at FEMA camps, they're real. They're there. And they've been building them for a while. It makes you wonder why they've been building them. But even in, if you go up to Seattle, C-TAC. They have what they call quarantine camps, or they're quarantine people. If you come in and you're sick or whatever, they'll take you there. They claim the other reason why they built them was if the hospitals get overrun. And so maybe they know something we don't know, or maybe they know something they're not saying to build these different camps and everything. I really think, honestly, this is going to get worse before it gets better. I don't think we've seen anything yet. And keep an eye on the stock market.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I'm telling you that market's going to crash. That's going to cause chaos. And anyway, I've done, I like Alex Jones. No. I did the Alex Jones in the beginning. We're all going to die. We're all going to die. Get your toothpaste. Get your toothpaste. It's not that I think, I think obviously lives are more important than the stock market, but every piece of this is going to cause another domino to fall. You know, if the stock market crashes, that's going to cause panic. Now we have this coronavirus and is it going to mutate into something else? According to the doctor I was talking to, she said, absolutely, it's going to mutate.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And she said, by the time you get it, it won't be the original virus that was brought over here. I think there's already two strands of it over here in the U.S. So it is terrifying, man. I did see a graph where they mapped out that they had the original strand. And then from that original strand, there was actually four branched off from that original strand. Now, those four last I saw, which was probably like two or three days ago. So it could definitely have changed by then.
Starting point is 01:03:28 But those four had not mutated yet, but it's going to happen. And that's the thing. It makes it very hard to fight. And, you know, guys, we got to just take this serious and stick together on this. If you can help your neighbor out, help your neighbor out, you know, take care of yourself, take care of your family. That's the number one priority. But if you can help those in need, please do so because we're going to be in a world of hurt
Starting point is 01:03:56 here in a couple weeks, I think, as this goes on. And, you know, that's funny. I just heard myself repeat back to me now. So I guess I heard what you were talking about, Wes. Anyways, it was me. Oh, okay. I'll call right back. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Okay. If that setup you did on my computer, it's actually your fault. we don't have to argue. We can argue about that later. If this wasn't live, I'd delete that whole thing out. So get out here. But vice president Pence is going to be talking tomorrow about some new restrictions on business. public gatherings. He actually mentioned curfew. So I imagine we're probably going to have a curfew nationally here within the next 24 to 48 hours. And so I was watching some of the people in the comment thread and stuff while we were dropping or while I was dropping those bombs, those heaters that they were saying, you know, could, do you think that this could turn into martial law,
Starting point is 01:04:59 things like that? I do think that this could turn into martial law. And here's the thing. the immediate present, martial law, if we don't cooperate in self-quarantine and do what we have to do as responsible adults, the government, I believe, has no choice but to enforce certain laws that will be viewed as martial law, but they need to contain this thing. And so, yes, I think it's heading towards martial law. I think the danger of that is, I think the danger of what all this is bringing is that is putting us in a position where we have not been prepared and therefore we are allowing ourselves. We put in a position where it's going to open up doors to have the government have new freedoms to implement onto us that they didn't have before.
Starting point is 01:05:51 It happened with 9-11. The Patriot Act did not happen before 9-11. But after 9-11, everybody's like, yeah, sign it through, get it done. And I think that's one thing we have to be worried about, friends that, you know, as time goes on as we get through this, it's going to be hard. We're all going to have somebody that's affected by this. But as we get through it, we need to be vigilant because this is going to open up doors and they're going to want to take this crisis and put it to good use. And so, Wes, I saw you called in and then you're gone, I think, again. I'll wait for you to text me or something if you're here and I'll start flipping through.
Starting point is 01:06:29 But until then, I'm going to get to the phone lines here. We got first up, area code 432. State your name and where you're from, my friend. Yeah, this is Pete Marquez. How you doing, Pete? Hey, pretty good. Hey, I met you in Houston for the second show back in May. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Tony, I was with the boys. That's great, man. With the two little boys? Yeah, I met a lot of people. I haven't a hard time remember exactly. Yeah, I was the retired. cop. I was there with my wife and two little boys at the front table with West and Bob Gimlin. Of course. Yeah. Of course you got to sit with Wes and Bob Gimlin. I don't think I got to sit with
Starting point is 01:07:14 Wes and Bob Gimlin. Yeah, I know, but you know what? I blew it. My wife said, all this time you wanted to meet West and when you finally do, you told him a stupid joke. But anyway, yeah, I blew. I blew it, man. I sat there. It was weird. It was like, hey, I was like a fan boy, you know. Yeah. Well, it's all right. You know, hey, getting to the point here, what I was thinking is, you know, the swine flu back in 2010 and 2011, that H1N1 or whatever it was called, it actually infected more people and killed more people. And our economy and our way of life didn't shut down the way this thing's doing. I can't help but think that this is somehow manufactured. And you thought you sounded crazy during the rant.
Starting point is 01:08:04 What I'm about to tell you might sound even more crazy. But I think that this is all part of the trying to crown the antitrist in the end-time stuff. I think that. Now, look, listen, it sounds crazy, but think about this for a second. Receiving the mark of the beast. you know, what if it's genetic manipulation and it's something that they got inject? No one, none of them are going to take that willing. But if you manufacture this killer virus, you know what?
Starting point is 01:08:36 Next thing you know, it's sign me up and where, you know, save my kids too, you know, and then we all willingly take it. Yeah. And, you know, the thing is, on the one hand I'm telling you that. And on the other hand, I bought. $200 worth of canned goods and water and stuff two weeks ago, and then today I bought another $362 worth of stuff today. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:08 So, you know, you're better than sorry. You know what I mean? Oh, for sure. I mean, and here's the thing. I mean, I would much rather overreact than underreact. I mean, everybody who's saying you're overreacting, they don't know. That's pure opinion. That's them hoping that you're overreacting.
Starting point is 01:09:23 They purely do not know. Just like you purely do not know if you're overreacting. acting not, they don't know either. Only you're actually doing something you're preparing. And I think that's very important and key to do. And back to your earlier statement here, I want to just kind of say this and put this out there. I know what you just said, and I know a lot of people have been saying that where there's certain things that have been worse than this as far as numbers go. But what you have to understand is that we're just starting this. We are absolutely in the very beginning of this. This is not over by a long shot. This is not a seasonal thing.
Starting point is 01:09:57 And just like we said, well, just like I was saying to people in the beginning of this, I wasn't saying it publicly, but I was saying, don't trust the numbers that are coming out of China. Don't trust the numbers that are coming out of China. I'm still saying that. Don't trust the numbers that are coming out of China. China's saying, oh, it's leveling off and going back to work. You watch. As soon as they start sending people back to work, I can almost guarantee you they're going to have another outbreak
Starting point is 01:10:20 because it's not over. And they're going to rush it back because they want the public appearance of that they're doing fine, get their economy up and running again. And this is where you got to buckle up for a long haul. That's why you got to prepare like you did. And I want to use this example as so it's like my son, you know, he's a little over two years old. And he's big for his age. I mean, they say that he's about in the 95 percentile of height and weight. And he's a big kid. And so, you know, I can easily say, you know, people who come to me and say, Ben's really big, Ben's really big. I can say, Ben's not big. I'm six feet.
Starting point is 01:10:56 tall. But I had more time to grow. Ben's in the beginning of his life. And so he's really big for his age. And that's how we need to look at this whole pandemic that we're in the middle of. It's just the beginning. It's going to get bigger. So we can't be comparing the numbers to something that we had six, seven, eight years ago because we know what the final tally is on that. We don't know what the final tally is on this yet. And the way that governments react to it will determine how these numbers go up or down. And so I think it's very important that we don't get caught up and trying to compare this in numbers to other things because we don't know what the final tally of this is. In hindsight, six, seven, eight years, whoever's left, God willing, many people are left, they'll be able
Starting point is 01:11:39 to tell how bad this really was. But in the middle of it, I don't think we can do that. Does that make sense? Yes, sir. I'm 100% with you. I still think it's kind of a manufactured scam type thing. It might be. But at the same time, I'm preparing for it. it, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I see what you're... For sure. Well, I appreciate you being...
Starting point is 01:12:00 I appreciate you calling in and sharing your thoughts, man. Yeah, all right. Thank you, guys. Absolutely. Y'all take care. Take care. Okay, bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:12:11 All right. So, Wes, are you on the line? Yeah. Okay. I wasn't sure... I wasn't sure if you were here and I saw the funky number. I figured that was you. So I...
Starting point is 01:12:26 I feel bad because I didn't give you a chance to talk there, but it is what it is. You're talking about. It's a Skype. It's a long story. I might have to switch over my phone. Anyway. Okay. Who was that gentleman that just called in?
Starting point is 01:12:43 Pete, he sat with you. His family sat with you and Bob in Houston. Second show. I'm trying to think. Well, anyway. Yeah, I mean. I'm sure he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:57 It's hard to remember everybody from those two days that we were down there. But yeah, so I mean, that's kind of like the way I've been looking at this, where it's just, you know, I'm fully developed. Just like some of these past diseases have been fully developed, we can look at it and say that's how big it is or how big it was or how big it got. But my son's not fully developed, so we can't compare my son to me, just like we can't compare what we have going on right now in the present to what we knew happened, you know, with SARS and what we knew happened with swine and all that stuff. So, you know, it is what we have. what it is. We're going to try to find ways to look at things and try to feel comfortable about
Starting point is 01:13:36 what we're going through. And feel free, anybody who's listening, feel free to call in and share your true opinion as to what's happening here that you guys who listen to my show know I'm very much accustomed to. I don't care what you think, what you believe. It's welcome to be shared on my show. And feel free to come and share any of your opinions with this as well. And if there's anybody out there that has been affected by COVID-19 as far as you've personally physically been affected or you know somebody that has, please feel free to call into the show and share what you know with the rest of the world so that we can all get a firm grasp as to what this is actually doing to people physically. And just a reminder, the phone
Starting point is 01:14:18 number is 563-9-9-3685. That's 563-999-9-9-39-36-85. Call in and chat it up with us. Next up, we have 4-6-9 is the area code. So please state your name and where are you from, my friend. This is Aaron from Dallas. Aaron from Dallas. How you doing, man? I'm doing good. Hey, I had the pleasure of bowling with y'all up in Frisco last year.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Nice. That was exciting. I want to throw a thought at y'all and see if it sticks. Go for it. As far as all of this COVID-19. 19 thing is concerned. Do you think I agree with the gentleman before that it's manufactured? I know it was patented in 2006 under the SARS umbrella.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Do you think it was spread purposely for to crash the economy, to affect politics, to implement martial law, you know, for population control, for social security, for social security to kill off boomers. I mean, I have all these thoughts that are going. I definitely believe it's manufactured and it's a bio weapon and it was purposely released. I heard Tony's thoughts earlier and Wes is as far as martial law. I definitely have to agree that's that's kind of spooky. Would you all mind elaborating a little bit on those thoughts? Well, I can say that with what you said, I have definitely contemplated it. And, you know, from I'm somebody who, you know, I don't have any connections, you know, I don't do this for a living
Starting point is 01:16:05 as far as, you know, looking into disease research and stuff. It makes me scratch my head and wonder, is this a weapon? Is this something that was unleashed as a weapon, a biotech? And then I started thinking, well, who would have done it? You know, is it us on China? Well, then it backfired because we're getting screwed over. Is it maybe a outside of a government kind of thing where it's like maybe the UN trying to develop and push forward, or maybe not just the UN, but the elites of the world pushing this one world agenda. Now, today, they dropped the interest rates down to zero. That's essentially hitting reset on our world banking system. I mean, like, that's huge. From that, we could definitely see, not like tomorrow, but like I said, it opens up the door to have
Starting point is 01:16:52 conversations about maybe having a one world currency. Well, if we have a one world currency, that leads into, you know, other things like one world governments. Do I think that this was an attack, though? I don't know. I really hope not. I've heard other people who, you know, do this stuff for living saying that they see no signs of attack. Like, there was a guy on Joe Rogan's show last week, and I think he's retired now, but he used to, this is what he used to do. And he says, that as far as he can tell, he sees nothing that points to a bio attack. But, you know, everybody's been wrong before. So I'm not sure. Wes, what do you think? 100% biotact attack, 100%. And I think they, I think it's exactly what you said. I think
Starting point is 01:17:42 they did it for, you know, China was kind of getting screwed on trade. And I think there's a lot of different reasons why this was sent out, you know, and I think it, 100%, I think it was created in a lab. I think it was executed out for everyone, knowing full well, you know, there's a lot of people that travel from China, they travel from China all over the world, especially here in the U.S., and I think it was 100% a bio-attack, no doubt in my mind. Well, there you go. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. It scares me to think that that happened.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Wes, now, if you're thinking 100% biotech, do you think that there was a particular government that did it? Or do you think that there was somebody or an organization outside of government that's pushing an agenda here and used this to do it? That part of that, that follow-up question is harder to answer. My original idea was China was behind it. And again, I think they released it for a couple reasons. one is to stop all of the protesters that were out there. How do you get them off the street? You know, we live in this age where everyone can watch what's going on on their phone.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And I remember watching the protesters out there in Hong Kong. And so China's got a problem. They can't just start shooting people on the streets because it's going to piss the world off. But it became this monster in Hong Kong. And then people around China were starting to kind of rise up. and I think that was the main reason why they released it. I think the second reason why they released it was China's economy hasn't been doing so a lot. They've been doing really, really bad. And then Trump came in and changed the trade deals
Starting point is 01:19:32 to make everything even, which hurt them even more. And I think there was a lot of different reasons why they released it. I think it was to hurt us. You know, we've been doing pretty well. The economy over here has been doing pretty well. Love Trump, hate Trump, however you feel about Trump, the economy's doing, has been doing very, very well. And I think it was a way to punish us. And, you know, because they knew if they released it, you're going to stop. Airlines are going to be in trouble. Transportation is going to be in trouble.
Starting point is 01:20:02 And it's one of those diseases to where it can be transmitted so quickly between people. It's hard to stop. How do you stop something like this? The only way you stop it is for martial law. You tell everyone you can't go outside, you can't go out, no more gatherings. I really think martial law is coming. I mean, and I really want to be wrong on this. I really do.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I want to be wrong on everything I'm saying. I don't think some lady was eating a bat and got the coronavirus and, you know, send it off. That makes no sense to me. Makes more sense it was created in a lab. It's funny, we were watching World War Z. Have you seen that movie with the zombies? I actually have, believe it or not. I actually watched a movie.
Starting point is 01:20:50 So you know the end of the movie where he goes into that, Brad Pitt goes into that disease center, and he's trying to inject himself with a, you know, something that won't kill him, but sick enough to where the zombies won't attack him. Those places exist. Those are real places. And in Wuhan, it's probably not far off from what you see in that movie. and I think they absolutely released it. So, Aaron, with what we said and stuff, how are you feeling?
Starting point is 01:21:23 I won't lie, a little spooked out, but I definitely have to agree that we are only scratching the surface on all of this. And all I have to say to everybody out there and yourself included boys is to buckle up, be safe. It wouldn't be a bad idea to arm yourself. Yes. And just be precautionous and wash your hands because it's just the beginning. Yeah, absolutely, Aaron. I absolutely agree with you, man. I appreciate you calling in the show.
Starting point is 01:21:52 We got to keep the phone calls shorter tonight because we have a list of calls to try getting to. Thanks for calling in, Aaron. Thanks for coming to play Go bowling with us, man. I had a good time. Absolutely. Yes, sir. Thank you. Hey, Eric, Aaron.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Aaron, before you get out of here, remember we were watching. We were watching the Sixers lose. My favorite team, the Sixers Luz, on that big screen at the end of the alley. And the first thing I thought of when you said you were bowling with us was that, man. You brought back some bad memories. So thanks for that. Appreciate it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I apologize. It's all good, brother. You have a good night, boys. And buckle up. Have a great one. Thank you, boys. Take care. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:22:34 So, yeah, Aaron brought up a good point there at the end of the call, which was, you know, to stock up on gun. and ammo. Wes, I actually went out to my gun store yesterday because I think it was either you or somebody else I was talking to had told me that the governor of Illinois told basically everybody that they can't buy guns, ammo. And I was like, whoa, like that's scary stuff right there. So I went out to my place and I got in there with Jack and he looks at me. and he says, well, I don't got much left. And I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, like, how much you got? And so I went in there and I need some ammo for different guns and stuff. Now, I have ammo at the house, but, like, I figured I'd get some more just, you know, I didn't think of me that big of a deal.
Starting point is 01:23:26 He said, starting Friday night, he said they started coming in in waves and just buying them out. All the ammo, all the guns. He said he had tons of first time gun owners coming in, buying guns, which I found interesting. I was like, okay, I guess because a lot of times people who are first-time gun owners and stuff, I would be willing to bet that at least 50% of those people at one time were like, I don't really think we need guns, this, that, and the other, and all of a sudden, tables turned, and they're like, I think I need a gun. But they bought everything out and stuff. So I was only able to buy two boxes for one gun, another box for another gun. I was like, well, this will have to do. So don't miss. But, you know, it's just one of those
Starting point is 01:24:08 things where it's the panic, you know, people are panicking and they're doing things that they normally wouldn't do. And I think a little bit later on here, we're going to touch on the topic West that you brought up here. I don't want to go into it right now, though. I want to kind of bring on the next caller here. So caller 541, that's your area code. Please state your name and where you from? Kimberly in Ashland, Oregon. Kimberly, how you doing? I'm doing pretty good right now. in my area this this is going to hurt the economy so badly i don't know if you guys are familiar with our area because you're kind of you know not really on anybody's maps unless you like shakespeare but um we had we had a couple of years of terrible forest fire smoke and last year was
Starting point is 01:25:02 fantastic but everybody chickened out because of two bad years So there's a, we've already lost a lot of small businesses to that. And now the Shakespeare Festival, which is like the big draw, is close until April 8th. And I, I'm actually at work right now, but I don't know for sure when my next shift will be. I'm scheduled for Thursday. So I've already technically lost one. And I honestly don't know if that is actually going to happen because we are empty tonight at the hotel. Okay, so I was going to ask what you do for a living hotel, though.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Go ahead, Wes. I said Ashland's beautiful, just south of Medford, if my memory's right. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm familiar with Grants Pass as well because I dance there twice a week, but, you know, the studio is closed for two weeks now. So, yeah. Yeah, that's probably these small towns, you know, like Ashland.
Starting point is 01:26:06 and I think the biggest city near you is Medford. And, you know, if they, well, if they shut down, you know, they're in big trouble, you know, or if you get all of these dicks that run to the store and they buy, they buy out all the toilet paper. So there's nothing left for anyone. You know, you're in a place like Ashland. Yeah, that happened. Yeah. The first case in Oregon in Lake Oswego, which, by the way, is where my parents attend churches in Lake Oswego.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Um, that was reported, I believe, on either a Friday night or a Saturday morning. Um, by Monday, uh, I had a grants pass class stopped at the grants pass Walmart. And I'm not worried about toilet paper. I've been good on that for ages, but, um, yeah, alcohol, aloe vera, anything that said sanitizing on it, gone. And it'd been like 48 hours. and over the next that week I checked Medford, Fred Meyer and Walmart, Ashland, Bymart, Safeway, Albertsons. And it took me until, like, Friday to find the very first bottle of rubbing alcohol that I'd seen all week.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Jeez. Yeah. So now, I mean, there's still none of that. There's no aloe at all. in the stores anymore. It's ridiculous. I can actually send, I'll email the confessional to the picture I took today when I went to Buy Mart to try to get more like borax and stuff for my side cleaning business. And there's a stain on the floor where the gigantic like six foot high tower of toilet paper normally is. It's like a huge thing. And it's, it's not even there. It's just, there's this
Starting point is 01:28:09 mark on the floor where it's supposed to be. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah. It's, it's, it's really getting bad in the stores. And, um, you know, I was even in the store today. And I, Lindsay, because she's pregnant, like, there's just certain foods that she, she wants to eat that she just really crazy. And, uh, I'm, I'm going out there trying to find it for. And it. And it's just, It's not happening. I mean, I went into the grocery store today and the shelves were bare. In fact, you know what, Kimberly, you brought this up here where you were going to email the show a picture. If anybody that's listening, go ahead and join the Confessionals fan group on Facebook and feel free to post any pictures you have of what's going on with COVID-19, whether it's a ghost town like Portland is that West described
Starting point is 01:29:02 or, you know, empty shelves in the stores near you and stuff, we want to know what's going on. We're going to be turning in the show, not the show as a whole, but like our online community stuff, we're going to really start focusing in on trying to just kind of gather together and kind of be there in support for each other. So if you have pictures and stuff that you want to share with people and kind of get people's opinions on, you know, what they think is going on, like, Wes, you brought up that picture about the soldiers in Philly. That was posted by a local guy And he's like, this is my own, this is in my own city. You know, people say that it's not happening, but it's happening.
Starting point is 01:29:39 And I don't know what he meant by that exactly. Obviously, we can draw conclusions and things like that. But I'll tell you what, those soldiers were in the hood. They were in the hood because I knew exactly where that road was. And, you know, I've never seen soldiers there before. And I think they're getting ready for either civil unrest or martial law. But Kimberly, I go off on tangents. and I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:30:03 But I would say that we have a very similar situation here. I think it's like that everywhere. In fact, I think anywhere you go, you're going to have just empty shelves. Yeah, I'm just, I've been a prepper for years, so I'm okay. And they're going to do everything possible to keep the farmer's markets running. So, and not being outdoors and a really short supply chain, you know, that's, probably your best, but in other parts of the country as well to get fresh food. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:30:43 And this is a great time, everybody, to consider building a garden if you have the land to do that. Even if you don't, window sill, grow some of your own food because as the stores empty out, I mean, the produce is bare. And so if you can grow your own little garden and stuff and kind of supply yourself with food during this mess. That's something that you should strongly consider. And don't think that, well, you know, the COVID's out there. I don't want to get it on my food. Well, any food you buy is going to have it on your food then. So grow your own food if you can and wash it off real good. And, you know, like I said earlier in the show and stuff, be there for neighbors. And,
Starting point is 01:31:23 you know, if you have extra tomatoes, because one thing that we always did when I was a kid is we always planted too many tomato plants. And we always wound up, you know, giving a bunch of way because they were just going to rot if you didn't, you know? Yeah, and definitely wash all the wrappers. When you bring the food home, wash it all like it's dirty dishes. Toss out the cereal box and just take the plastic bag out if you buy cereal and just everything that comes in is a dirty dish. That'll definitely cut down on, you know, what's been handled. Yeah, absolutely. And that's a good point, Kimberly, to kind of, it's things that we don't typically think about is, you know, as soon as you walk in your house, you are dirty and you need to sanitize yourself so that you
Starting point is 01:32:05 don't get the people in your house sick and stuff. And it's hard to get in that process of thinking, but we need to try. You're not going to be perfect at it, but the more you try, the better you'll be at it. So, Kimberly, thanks for calling. Yeah, welcome. All right, you take care. Be safe, love. Thank you again for calling. Yeah, it's good advice, you know, she's talking about taking the cereal bag out of the box and I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but when you look at how long this virus lives on, you know, on anything, really, you know, tabletops, computers, everything, glass. Good advice. Good advice. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's great advice. And I think that our callers
Starting point is 01:32:45 are going to be bringing a lot of different takes and stuff tonight. And that's what we're looking for. We're looking for people to kind of just bring your own opinions, your own thoughts. What are you thinking? What are you doing to prepare? How are you going to weather this storm? God willing, we all make it through, you know, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer. I don't want to be dramatic and stuff, but the fact of the matter is, people are dying from this. And we're just trying to, we're out here in the real world just trying to dodge Corona. So, you know, I'm trying to, I find myself when I talk about this too much as far as like right now, I'm kind of getting to the point where I'm maxed out on talking about it today. And I'm going to start getting a little
Starting point is 01:33:23 laughy sometimes because I'm getting nervous now the more I talk about it. So I'm just like, oh, God, next caller. So I get it. And it is. And that's why we're doing the show so people and get it off their chest. I think everyone's thinking about it. If you're not, you're delusional. Yeah. But I think it's on everyone's mind. You know what I mean? For sure. For sure. So next caller, we have four eight zero is your area code. Please state your name and where you're from. friend. Hi, Tony. It's Rachel. I called in from the last live show a week or two ago. Rachel, aren't you scheduled for an interview next month or something? Yes, I am. All right. Awesome. How you doing out there? Yeah. I'm good. Hi, Wes. How are you? Hi, I'm good. I'm near the
Starting point is 01:34:14 epicenter of the corona. That's in Kirkland, Washington, and I'm about 30 minutes northeast of that. Oh, okay. Not far for me. It's, what was that? I said not too far from me. Okay, yeah, we're probably, you know, semi-neighors. But before I begin, I just need to adjust my tinfoil hat, get it on nice and good. And I have been digging. I mean, from the minute that this all broke out, something was not sitting right with me.
Starting point is 01:34:47 And there are various aspects about it that really are kind of setting off my alerts that there is much more going on here than we're being told, as with most things that are blown up on the news. So my rabbit hole has led me. Well, I've been in a rabbit hole for a couple of years, but with this specific thing that's coming up, I first would like to touch on a few things about Event 201 that you mentioned, Tony, and that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was a major part of that. I find it odd that Bill Gates has been quoted and interviewed and in tons of different articles over the years talking about his belief and his interest in population control and vaccine developments and the potential option of people just coming in and getting sterilized because the population is in his words just out of control. So I find that, you know, kind of odd that here he is an advocate for population control and is just, I mean, the coincidences here of him being at Event 201.
Starting point is 01:36:03 This whole thing happens, what, three months later? And then the other thing I really put up a flag for me was the day that Trump gave his address and kind of an update on where we were at and what was all. going on. And he said exactly, a quote, we know exactly where this virus came from. And that same day, Bill Gates steps down entirely from Microsoft. Ah, so are you saying that Billy got a little nervous and he's going to sail off in his hydrogen propelled yacht that he just bought? Well, perhaps, but it goes even deeper than that in my thought. I mean, you, I'm sure you guys have known. over the last several months, just in 2020, there have been dozens of major CEOs stepping down from these huge companies.
Starting point is 01:36:58 That's weird. And I'm sure there's more going on with that than we know. But my belief, and I'm going to put it in a nutshell as much as I can, I believe that, well, we've seen that since Trump got into his presidency, there has been attempt after attempt after attempt to derail him, to impeach him, to convict him. And all of it has fallen short. He's pulled through. The guy's been through hell.
Starting point is 01:37:23 We've got to give him that. And I personally believe that the coronavirus itself is a deep state operation that maybe the deep state is in connection with China where it was first unleashed. And somehow that lines up with Bill Gates and the patent for coronavirus being approved in, I think it was 2015 or 2011. And this is another attempt of the deep state to prevent Trump from getting reelected and to tank the economy. However, I believe that Trump is using their own trick back against them by declaring a state of emergency, by shutting down borders, by preventing travel on a major scale. And, you know, coincidentally enough, there are currently 147,000 sealed indictments ready to go out just in America.
Starting point is 01:38:18 America. And a great way to carry out those indictments of high profiles, celebrities, politicians, you know, people in the public eye would be to shut down various ways that they could try and flee. And I was floored the other day when the map that is available of the whereabouts of these over 100,000 indictments, the locations of those, lines up just terrifyingly close. to the map of the coronavirus outbreak. Can you say that again? Can you say that again? Just repeat what you just said about the map of the coronavirus.
Starting point is 01:38:58 I want to catch that better. Yes. So there is, okay, there is a map available that lays out the locations where these sealed, currently sealed indictments. There's over 100,000 of them ready to go out. And the locations of these sealed indictments where they are headed, there's a map of it. And if you take a map of the coronavirus outbreaks in America, you will be terrified when you see, if you lay them over top of each other, they are almost identical.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Could you send me a link, email me a link of what you're talking about. I want to see what you're talking about because that's very interesting to me. Yes, and I think that, sorry, I have one more thing. No, go ahead. I think that all these, you know, we've seen several high-profile celebrities coming out. Tom Hanks, Heidi Klum, you know, claiming that they have this coronavirus, it would be utterly beneficial to them to have to go into quarantine for two weeks, knowing that they are on the list of people who were on Epstein's airplane several times. They've got to be quarantined.
Starting point is 01:40:05 They are not available and to try and bunker down. Go wherever they're trying to go to evade what I believe is coming to them, which is an indictment. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, Rachel, you're going down the rabbit hole. And I'm not even, no, listen, I'm not knocking you because this is like you just opened up a can of worms that is an episode in itself. I'll tell you what, Rachel, I think before I forget to tell you this, I thought about last time you called in. I do think that when you and I do that episode recording, I'm going to have a fun time talking to you. Like you have some great thoughts. I really enjoy hearing what you're talking about
Starting point is 01:40:49 because it really just kind of intertwines and goes in between all a bunch of stuff. But let me ask you a question, Rachel. Harvey Weinstein, do you think that his 23-year sentence was actual lenient sentencing because he was going to give them names as to other people who are involved in these rings? I believe that what was the max he could have
Starting point is 01:41:13 gotten 29 years, I believe. Oh, I thought it was 50. I think that was like the maximum number he could have gotten, at least on that. Isn't there a whole other set of charges awaiting him in a different state? I'm not sure. I thought it was 50. So I must be totally wrong. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:41:31 I thought it was 29 years maximum that he could be facing. So 23 out of 29, I think that's pretty good. The guy obviously appears to not be in the best health. So I don't really foresee him. You know, I think for him that, you know, I think for him that, you know, you know, means he's probably going to end up dying in prison because he's already older, 23 more years. He's not a picture of health. But I would not be surprised at all if he has had an offer made to him that if he's willing to cooperate and he's willing to give up the information
Starting point is 01:42:02 that he obviously has, I would not be surprised at all if they went a little bit more easy on him just because they're hoping that he will cooperate. But I believe, that they already have so much of that information anyway, and that Weinstein's cooperation would only be, you know, kind of doubling up on things and super verifying things that they probably already know. Yeah. Well, Rachel, I'll tell you what, I appreciate you bringing some of these points to the table and stuff, and we're going to keep moving here, but because I know you, I know you, Rachel, already. You and I could yap and yap and yap, but we've got to get the callers going here. So, thanks for calling in. Yes. And you told me last time that if I had,
Starting point is 01:42:45 then Wes, you would have hung up on me a lot. It's true. It's true. It's true. We all love you, Wes. Wes, he's such a good joke taker. Yeah. Well, you know, me and Wes, we go back and forth, and he usually gets a better
Starting point is 01:43:03 upper handle me most of the time. So, Rachel, thanks for calling in. Yeah, thank you guys for having me. We'll talk soon. Take care. Yep. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:43:13 All right, Wes, yeah, I don't apologize for anything I say about you when you're not listening either, so just for official public notice. So let's go. The good thing about usually usually say it to my face first, so that's all right. Yeah, if I think you're crazy, I'll tell you. But so, yeah, let's keep this going here because I want to tell everybody a heads up, we're going to be trying to wrap this up in about 30 minutes. So we got about 30 minutes left of the show. So we're going to start trying to speed these phone calls up. So the next one we have is area code 660.
Starting point is 01:43:51 State your name and where you're from. Lori Foster from Trenton, Missouri. Lori Foster, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. I can't believe I actually got through. I'm shocked. I actually wanted to bring something up.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I, for the last couple of years, have been listening to this guy who had brought to my attention that 5G being rolled out. And one of the podcasts that I listened to today, I found it really interesting, that he, this is full-time informer that I'm talking about, he mentioned that he believes that this whole quarantine and possible martial law is about them putting everybody out of sight so that they can do their hookup, to make this 5G actually be. And there we're going to have a whole other set of problems
Starting point is 01:44:52 along with what's going on now. Yeah. You know, I've heard so many different theories and thoughts on 5G and how it connects to this, and I have not heard that one before. And that's really interesting that you brought that up. Wes, what do you think about any of that? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:12 I've heard so many weird things about 5G. The only counter to that argument, I would say, is if the economy crashes, no one's working and they do martial law. Who cares about 5G? They're not going to build it anyway. You know what I mean? There's too much going on. But I've heard a lot of weird. And if everything picks up and gets good again, then things will go back to normal and it'll be hooked up and then you know where that goes.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Yeah, I don't know much about it. I can't really speak to that. Yeah. Well, there's a lot. I'm sure there's so many things going on, so many thoughts and in everybody's mind like I'm listening to. And so really, that's all I wanted to talk about. And just everybody, be wise and in your wise, get understanding and look up. Amen to that. All right. Well, thank you very much for calling in. Thanks, Tony. Bye. Bye-bye. Yeah, 5G is an interesting topic to go down. A lot of people early. on, well, I should say early on in the public guy started talking about the 5G almost immediately
Starting point is 01:46:21 when this whole thing started popping off. And they're like, it's 5G, it's 5G. And the idea is that China is about five years ahead of us in technology-wise when it comes to developing 5G networks. They were ready to roll it out, I think, in full capacity. I think it was this year, excuse me. I think it was this year, though, that they were ready to roll it out full capacity, whereas the rest of the world was about five years behind them. 2025 is when we, in and the Mnestays, it was going to be ready to roll it out. And so they're saying that this is the cause of the coronavirus. I would say that from what I understand, though, 5G can actually affect or activate.
Starting point is 01:46:58 I don't know how it all works. I'm not a doctor, but it could actually do something with fungus inside your body that actually would make you sick and weaken your immune system that you could be more susceptible to the coronavirus. But I don't think I've heard anybody actually confirm that. 5G itself causes COVID-19. God, I hope not because people were talking about nanobodies and nanotech and how they're spraying chemtrails in the sky. We've been breathing it in for years. And now the 5G is activating and the activation of what or what it's activating in our body is
Starting point is 01:47:35 the coronavirus. And so we got, we're not short of any thoughts and opinions here, friends. So please keep them coming. We're going to keep it moving here. code 850, please state your name and where you're from. Hello. Hey, Tony, you there? Hey, I'm here. Hey, this is David. I'm in Northern Illinois.
Starting point is 01:48:00 David, David, David, Northern Illinois. Your voice knows. I'm actually a member on your site. Your voice is, you're not David Fallon, are you? I'm David. Sorry, say it again. What's your last name? No, I never mind. You don't need to say your last name. Anyways, what are you calling about, my man?
Starting point is 01:48:17 All good. All right. So from the beginning of this, I started, I kind of, my emotions come back and forth on it. At first, it, uh, it really worried me. And then I started to see, see different things that, you know, the debt, the mortality rate wasn't that high. And, uh, and so that kind of, you know, give you a little hope. And then, you know, listen to a different podcast. So to do, you just tear, um, here's some of the, you know, the worriedness that people have about it.
Starting point is 01:48:48 So I don't know, I've gone back. and forth on it. And I'm more, I lean towards your sentiments about, you know, what you started off saying. So, but I guess what my question is, what do you think? Do you think there's anything that can be really done? Like, is it we just kind of kind of weighted out? Or do you think everybody closing down and closing down schools and do you think that's going to help it all, mitigate it and people just kind of stay at home? Do you think that's going to do anything? I mean, I definitely think so. I mean, if you, if everybody just gets on board with the idea that you need a self-quarantine, like, for instance, for me, uh, one, my, my,
Starting point is 01:49:19 My biggest fear is my wife. If she cracks a fever, it could cause brain damage to the baby. I'm very worried about that. I text my boss today and I said, hey, this is what I'm thinking. I'm not feeling comfortable coming into work. And so I told him I was going to take a sick day tomorrow. I'm taking a vacation day Tuesday and Wednesday. We're going to reassess by then.
Starting point is 01:49:39 But to be honest with you, I'm hoping that the government says by then that, hey, we're locking things down. Everybody needs to kind of self-quarantine in their homes. If everybody does that, I do believe. we will really suppress the numbers of people getting affected. It's really just simple math. If you're not around a bunch of people, a bunch of people won't be getting affected by this.
Starting point is 01:50:00 But will we do it? I'm not sure, man. I'm not sure. And that's what concerns me. Yeah. Wes, what do you got? Yeah. I think if they force it,
Starting point is 01:50:15 I think it'll come down. They're going to force people to self-quarantine. And then not to go off of the caller's point, or David's point, but did you hear MGM shut down in Vegas and the wind casino shut down too as well? I mean, these are major casinos shutting down. So I think business is taking the lead, but I think the government's going to have to step in to make people, it's like spring break in Florida. Get those people off the beaches. What are you guys doing? You know, I mean, like what the hell is going on here?
Starting point is 01:50:46 And I think the government's going to step in. And I think if they do impose some sort of self-quarantine, eventually it'll go away. The virus will go away. How long? I don't know. But again, I think it's going to get worse before it gets better because people are out and about. They're doing their thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:51:05 Yeah. I mean, that's what I think, too. I mean, David, I think that when you got people in Florida on the beaches and stuff, and you saw, I'm sure a lot of people saw that picture of the crowded beaches and stuff, I saw that, and I'm in a Facebook group that is like a coronavirus news center kind of thing. And I saw that. And I just commented, I said, when we're putting martial law, think about this article because that will be the reason why. Because people not doing what they need to do as responsible adults is going to force the hand of the government.
Starting point is 01:51:36 And I'm telling you, when they take that step, it opens up in a whole new door for them to walk through for the rest of the time. they once they do it one time they'll have reason to do it again and uh that that's what we're that's what we see with the patriot act we're still dealing with that crap and that was signed uh almost 20 years ago now and so it's just it's a it's a thing that we need to take serious here um and if we can all just do this together the right way we can preserve our freedoms and our liberties without uh being without those things being affected right right and uh That's the other question I had. Do you think, maybe you already said something that's earlier, but I know you're a Christian,
Starting point is 01:52:22 and I'm also, I'm also a Christian, and I've been just getting into a lot of Bible prophecy lately, and do you think there's anything prophetic about this at all? Do you think, I mean, it's just another step towards their end, you know, the ultimate, the ultimate end here? I mean, I don't really try to get caught up in the predicting of when, you know, the next, doom and gloom thing is going to line up with prophecy in the Bible. One, because to be honest with you, I don't really understand a ton of that last book of the Bible. You know, like, it's just, it takes a lot of studying and stuff and a lot of reading into and understanding what it's talking
Starting point is 01:53:06 about. And, but I would say that just in the general sense of what we're seeing, I don't think it helps. I don't think it helps, you know. I think that this is something that we could look back on and say, yeah, we took another step in that direction. But to be honest with you, I'm probably not the best person when it comes to, you know, end-time prophecies. It's just not really my wheelhouse. I know people who are great in it. I was actually raised in a church where the pastor, he, I mean, he did a whole series on it. It took a long time on Sunday nights. But I mean, he did a whole series on it. It was fascinating.
Starting point is 01:53:45 So, you know, I'm just not that guy to really speak authoritatively on that. Okay. But, man, I appreciate you calling. Yeah. Hey, thanks for taking my call, guys. Appreciate it. Absolutely, man. Take care.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Have a good time. All right, too. All right. So, yeah, I'm not the best when it comes to the end-time prophecies. I dig listening to it. It's just, it seems like whenever I'm listening, to it. Maybe that's the problem is I listen to a lot of people teach on it. And I don't actually, you know, sit down and spend tons of hours studying it myself. But it just, a lot of times it goes
Starting point is 01:54:25 over my head. I'm like, how many heads did it have? You know, like, I'm just like, what? Like, I'm trying to figure this out and understand it. So, but yeah, so let's just keep it moving here. And the next caller we got, two, three, nine is the area code. So please state your name and where you from. Hey, guys. I'm Frank for Florida. love y'all shows listen to them like all the time appreciate it man so thank you man
Starting point is 01:54:52 my thoughts on the whole COVID-19 thing is I don't believe it is as bad as Spanish flu Spanish flu just was like the wrecking ball of the 20th century
Starting point is 01:55:08 this one it's to me just the media just keep hyping it up I think it's the panic that's the way to kill more people than the virus itself to be straight honest because if you just do like a five meter
Starting point is 01:55:22 you know five meter distance from people you'll be perfectly fine they call it like social distancing you know what I'm saying yeah and and I'm from Florida so I'm sitting there treating it like a hurricane hurricanes come around all the time
Starting point is 01:55:39 so I'm like I just treat us as if it's a hurricane and everybody would be fine so for me how I'm looking at it is just I'm not concerned about it but not worried like everybody else
Starting point is 01:55:55 because as they said you know Roman's the mob mob rules once the mob starts going it's a lot to put it down. Yeah I just Yeah go ahead Wes or go ahead
Starting point is 01:56:10 I don't go ahead no I was actually going to say that I understand your point I just, the way I look at this whole thing is I really refrain from trying, for me personally, I try to refrain from comparing this in that light just because we just don't know the end game here. We all have theories and we all have, we all have understandings as to what we're reading in different articles and things like that. But we really truly don't know how long this is going to last. Like, for instance, when this first started popping off in the beginning of January,
Starting point is 01:56:46 they were saying that we just need to get through the winter. We just need to get through the winter. And then probably around end of January, beginning of February, you started hearing things like, uh, this might actually not be a seasonal thing. And then we just read an article or the title of an article. Let me see if I can pull it up here.
Starting point is 01:57:02 When I first started this live part of the show, where the UK, from the Guardian, UK coronavirus crisis to last until spring of 2021 and could see 7.9 million hospitals. And so, I mean, that's, that's them, uh, theorizing and predicting, certainly. But it's the idea that if, if that's true, if that's true. And, uh, 7.9 million people are hospitalized in the UK, then globally, we're talking about, you know, on the level of 1918. I mean, we really are where that's what we're looking at. Uh, so then, so then to go
Starting point is 01:57:44 with your point here, right? So, we remember a few years ago with Ebola and then next you know disappears it's like they it's like I was I'm trying to remember what year was I think I was probably around 24 25 or whatever and the media didn't hit it as hard as they're hitting this one and you know maybe you could say it's all politics at this point or whatever but I but in my opinion I think Ebola was a little bit worse than then then COVID 19 because if you remember, if you saw the Joe Rogan episode where he had the medical doctor from the University of Minnesota, I believe, he said that, well, MERS works at 110 degrees.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Thank you very much. Because they can predict whatever, but the prediction is different from the reality. Yeah. Well, I mean, Ebola was a whole different animal in itself as well. I mean, one, Ebola, the death toll on Ebola, I think was 10,000 when it broke out recently in that first year, 10,000, 12,000 people. And let me just pull it up here real quick. Death toll right now globally for this is 6,500. And so we're halfway there already, and we're just in the beginning of this.
Starting point is 01:59:05 But also, Ebola isn't spread through the air by people breathing around you. you actually like if you see somebody if you see somebody bleeding out of their eyes don't touch them don't give them a hug don't go around licking people's poop and and and and and and and and showering in their urine because that's essentially how you got a bullet i mean it's it's like it's really it's it's not very uh easy to get a bullet it like it's it's it's pretty easy to contain a bowl of but when it comes to something like this where it's airborne and you and on top of it And I don't think we even hit on it really a whole lot in the calls yet. When you have something that's airborne, you're in around people and you're breathing something in,
Starting point is 01:59:48 but you don't get the symptoms of it for up to a week. Like, that's how this spreads because now you have it, but you don't know you have it for a week. And you're just breathing around people and giving it to people. And that's why I'm so scared to bring something like that home because I won't even know I'm sick for a week and I could give it to my wife or my son. And so I think that's what kind of makes me nervous. That's true, Tony. And for my understanding of social distancing, you know, the five, 10 meters, you know, social distancing, they actually did a test on that in two places, which was in Philly and Boston, where I believe it was Philly that they were a little more closer together. And then in Boston, they were further apart during the Spanish flu.
Starting point is 02:00:31 And it showed that the rate of people's social distancing in Boston dropped dramatically for the infection of Spanish flu, for Philly arose because of the distance that they have between each other. And as you said, it's airborne. So it could work, could not work. Only time would tell. And, you know, I share your concerns, you know, because, you know, your wife, your son. And, you know, my family too, you know, my parents are older, so it could affect them more. So it's something to be really precocious about. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 02:01:05 And, you know, absolutely. I don't want to, like, I don't want to, you know, jump in rabbit holes and go all conspiratorial because we can just do that all day. But, like, if we hit up, like, the hard points and then we could find the holes in it and fill those up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I get you, brother. I get you.
Starting point is 02:01:27 And that's why we're doing this show, man, because I think this is the best thing that we can do collectively is think out loud and not be afraid to talk to each other about this because you guys know me, you guys know how I think, and I think they want collectively for us to be afraid to talk to each other in general so that it's easier for them to manipulate us and brainwashes. And so the more people that are willing to call in and just openly talk and share their thoughts and opinions and stuff and have true dialogue and discussion, we can actually gain a lot intellectually. So I appreciate you calling him. man.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Yeah, but thanks. Hey, love your shows, guys. Keep it up. All right, man. Thanks a lot. Thanks, man. So, Wes, I saw you drop there, but now you're back. I guess you're having problems on your end.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Yeah, I apologize. Yeah, I'm having issues with my Skype. I apologize. You can't hear me okay on my cell phone? Dude, like, it sounds actually a little bit more crisp. Oh. Well. But anyways.
Starting point is 02:02:27 I got a test from Woody. He's like, I'm waiting. the damn queue. I'm like, you got to wait in line like at one. Oh, Woody, man. I don't even think I have, I have, I don't know, Woody's. It's a 360 number. Okay, well, let's, let's bring on Woody because I think the people would love to hear from Woody. Woody, it's been a long time since the people have heard from you. How the heck have you been? Woody. Hey, guys. Hey. Hey, can you hear me? Yeah. Hey, guys, it's nice to hear from you.
Starting point is 02:03:04 Tony, I haven't spoke to you in a long time. Wes, I'm tired of your ass pretty much all the time. But anyway, no, no, it's nice to hear from both you. I just want to kind of touch base a little bit on the coronavirus. And, you know, I think some of the things that we're kind of missing here, and we've talked a lot about a whole bunch of things in a pile, in a big pile here. But I think one of the most important things as far as on,
Starting point is 02:03:32 a no-nonsense attitude as far as the American public is. What's next? Right? I mean, have we heard the whole story? Have we not heard the whole story? We're going to have, all of a sudden, we have, we have the National Guard showing up in, I believe it's 10 different states now. I've heard Oregon, Washington, California.
Starting point is 02:03:57 There's a couple of states on the East Coast. We have casinos closing down. And I'm not so sure if I'm more afraid of the, and I'm not a wimp, but I'm not so sure if I'm more afraid of the coronavirus or of what the, what's going to become of the coronavirus. And what I mean by that is, is what happens when we start running out of supplies, what happens when we run out of food, what happens running out of toilet paper, toothpaste, stuff like that. I mean, right now in California, I can't remember the exact city in California. I read it today. I'm sorry because I'm not the exact city. But they're doing police escorts to like wind codes or if they have wind codes or whatever their big food chain stores are by police escort for fear of these container trucks showing up and people trying to rob them.
Starting point is 02:04:58 And my fear myself, for me, because I live in the state of Washington, is more or less, I'm afraid of people taking my shit. You know what I mean? I'm afraid what happens if I run out A, if I run out of B, if I run out of C, and I have children in the house, possibly elderly people in the house. And that's my, my biggest fear is that of people trying to come and take what I, what I have. And not so much me having the coronavirus or getting the coronavirus. I'm more afraid of the things that I have and the people are going to try to take. And I will tell you this firsthand, I work with a lot of people. I won't discuss where I work.
Starting point is 02:05:48 But the, the biggest fear is, this is what I'm. are we going to do if our job shut down? What are we going to do? How are we going to pay our bills? How are we going to put food on the table? How are we going to provide for our children? And basically all three of us here, guys, me, last Tony and myself, we're all fathers in the situation. We're put in that primal instinct as a dad or a father to provide for our family, correct? I mean, I think both you guys would agree on that. What's the next step? What happens when people start trying to take,
Starting point is 02:06:26 if that does happen, if we go into martial law, if we are put into a scenario to where we have only certain hours where maybe we can leave the house, to where we can provide for our family, to where we can buy groceries, to where we can do social interaction, and now the National Guard is dictating the hours and times of stuff that we can do that. I'm going to be honest with you guys, man.
Starting point is 02:06:59 People are going to get for the stupid, right? I mean, because you're going to do anything you can't. You're going to do anything you can. Tony, you have a brand new child on the way. You'll do whatever you can to provide the safety for your child, correct? 100%. 100% and West is the same, I'm the same way. And there's a million other fathers out there, a million mothers.
Starting point is 02:07:23 And mothers are, they're more dangerous than fathers. So as far as I'm concerned. But anyways, what are you going to do? And I'm at fear more for that than contracting the coronavirus. And I think that's a point that we're missing. Because, because set the coronavirus aside. What's next? What is the next step?
Starting point is 02:07:47 We have a disease here that we can't control. We're trying to isolate. We haven't been able to isolate it, right? So what's the next step? People are going to start taking. If you can't get the supplies you need, you can't get the medication you need. You can't get the fuel that you might need to get in your car to get your children or your wife somewhere. That's what I'm more afraid of, to be quite honest with you,
Starting point is 02:08:11 have been contracting in the disease. I just kind of wanted to get Tony Sots, West Sots on that. I know I can't be here all night. But, you know, that's my biggest fear. And I'm going to be quite honest with both you guys. I think that's the fear. That's the bigger fear of American people today. It's not so much contracting the coronavirus.
Starting point is 02:08:37 It's what comes next after that that we can't control. And now we've put it in the government's hands, right? So now it's in the government's hands. So now we have we have martial law that could come next. We have the National, well, excuse me, National Guard. We have the, we have the, we have martial law that could be next after that. We could be doing curfews. We could be doing checks.
Starting point is 02:09:02 We could be doing, and, you know, it's already starting, guys. I mean, to be quite honest, Target, Walmart, that's great. That's great. That's what we need to do. I'm glad that President Trump put that into place. That is a whole, I mean, we've only seen the beginning. We're not even, as far as I'm concerned, we're just in the beginning of this. And I think, I don't know, I think you both made the comment earlier that it's going to get way worse before it gets even, before it gets it better.
Starting point is 02:09:35 And we're not even, and honestly, I'm scared to death. because come Monday, when the Stark market opens back up, what happens next, guys? So I'm done preaching. I'll open it up to both of you guys. It's like I'm running the show now. But anyway, I've got to say, I'm more scared of the aftermath or what's happening
Starting point is 02:10:02 because we're not, I guess what I'm saying is I'm more scared of the aftermath of the coronavirus than I am more of the coronavirus. Yeah. That's all I have to say. And, man, I'll tell you what, Woody, I agree with you. I absolutely agree. Because you can get caught up in the idea of, I got to survive this.
Starting point is 02:10:21 I got to make it through this, that, and the other. But then there's the aftermath because what you said, West said, I said, like, none of us believe this is going away anytime soon. I believe that this is usering us into a new era of global humanity. I do not think that this is going to, we're going to go back to way. we thought things were in Thanksgiving time last year. I think that's gone. I think that we are being ushered into a new era that we have no choice but to go into. And you're right, Woody. I think that people are going to start losing their minds and they're going to start acting out and they're
Starting point is 02:10:58 going to start doing crazy things. People who never would have thought about doing such things before when you put them in a situation where survival of the fit is, all of a sudden you realize what you're made of and it's either you put up or you die. And I think you're going to have to, people doing crazy things. And it's going to get to a point where I believe that, and I didn't bring this up earlier and stuff, but I'll bring it up now. I think what you hear about people talking about how they've seen these UN camps in our country for years. I think that this is what they've been here for. I think these UN camps, and I don't think they're just in this country, but I think that this is what they're here for. So when there's civil unrest and, and there needs to be an overall
Starting point is 02:11:39 government control that is not contained to any one country, I think that's where we're heading. And it's scary. When you start seeing it. Go ahead. Go ahead. I didn't mean to interrupt you, Tony. And another thing along with that is, this is, it sounds kind of stupid, but it's matured. We're running on a hand sanitizer for whatever reason, toilet paper, toothpaste.
Starting point is 02:12:09 We're running out of the easy things that we have in life, correct? So what happens when we run out of beef, pork, chicken, potatoes, and stuff like that? Because we can't even get things transferred on a semi-tractor or a ship. Hey, guess what? The porch are even talking about closing down because we don't want anything. Now, one of the biggest manufacturers of steel is out of China. So we're not going to be able to get steel. there's grain that we're not we're not going to be able to get.
Starting point is 02:12:41 There are certain things that we sent across the borders as far as forest products and stuff like that. And everything's going to be shut down. We're going to come into a major economical collapse. Yes. And I don't feel, I don't believe that everybody is seen through the, is seeing the big picture. Everybody in the media is at fault for this too. They're saying, oh, coronavirus, hey, don't be sick. six feet away, temperature over 100,
Starting point is 02:13:10 temperature over 100 degrees, blah, blah, blah. But let's look at the big picture here. We're screwed, man. And shit's going to get real here in probably, possibly next week, maybe two weeks, maybe three. We're not out of this yet. We're far from being out of this guy. You know, you mentioned about China and media.
Starting point is 02:13:29 Like, I don't watch mainstream media, but I've heard it, okay? I've heard people talking about how, well, we're hearing that everybody's saying that China really handled this well. China didn't handle anything well. Okay, first of all, they lied about their numbers. They manipulated those numbers. Secondly, you know what? The reason why China is, everybody in China was locked down is because it's a communist country and they had no choice. There's an upper class and a lower class.
Starting point is 02:13:55 And when they say, you're going in your house or we're going to weld those doors shut, you don't have rights. That's how China handled it. They can't handle it like that here unless they do martial law and go total draconian. And in talking about imports and the shipping docs and all that stuff being shut down, people have to understand. I've been telling people this. China manufactures most of our pharmaceuticals. There are millions upon millions of Americans who are on pharmaceuticals who weren't prepared for this
Starting point is 02:14:27 because the mainstream media had their heads up their asses with this whole impeachment thing. nobody knew this was coming and now we have elderly people to young people who are on pharmaceuticals and they need those drugs and they're in China China shut down
Starting point is 02:14:42 and now China's going to have an upper hand on this quote unquote trade war. You don't think China's going to hold that against us? You better think again. They don't care. They'll kill their own people.
Starting point is 02:14:53 They'll kill their own people. They're not going to worry about killing us. Go ahead, Woody. Absolutely not. You almost feel like there was a certain camouflaged by China, like they had a prime directive, correct,
Starting point is 02:15:06 on what was happening. And unfortunately, we're going to be on the receiving end of it. Now, our job, and Tony, I'm not trying to knock here or anything like that. You said earlier in the show, hey, we need to come together as people, we need to do this. I completely agree. I completely agree with what you say.
Starting point is 02:15:23 We need the Democrats, we need the Republicans, we need whatever Indian tribes. We need white people, black people. We need all. people to come together right now because it's based on our survival. The only problem is, is the primal instinct of a human individual is care for yourself, care for your family, care for that, or I don't know exactly what I'm trying to say. And that's, and that's not what's happening right now. We have so many people that are so just, they're, they're so, they're so,
Starting point is 02:15:54 they're so left wing, right wing, middle wing, whatever you want to call them, everyone's in a different place right now. now. And really, I wish everybody could come together. That would really help the situation. But I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, it'll never happen. I don't see that being the answer to, I don't see that being the, uh, mathematical equation to the answer. Yeah. And I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I mean, and I don't know where to go from here. But I'm going to, I'm going to tell you what both of you guys one thing. If it, if it comes down to, if it comes down to, if it comes down to product, services, and good, and it comes to people wanting to come to my house and take what I
Starting point is 02:16:35 have, I'm going to have a problem with that. Yeah. And Tony, you had just mentioned, you're buying ammo. Wes had talked about it tonight. I had spoke privately with Wes earlier tonight. I have people at work that I've talked to. The first thing people were doing at work tonight at the end of ship is they were driving out of sportsmen's warehouse, and they were stocking up on ammo.
Starting point is 02:16:56 So what does that tell you the direction that we're headed? I'm more feared of the people coming into my house, taking my shit, than I am of the catching the COVID-19. Yeah. And that's where I'm at. And I think that's the, I think that's probably, and I can't speak for all of America, obviously, because I'm just one guy in Vancouver, Washington.
Starting point is 02:17:18 But, I mean, if it were me, that's what I, I mean, it is me. And that's what I'm more concerned about than catching COVID-19. Yeah. Well, Woody, I hear you, man. I hear you. And you're right because when it comes down to it and stuff, listen, the roof I'm under, that's my tribe. And I will do anything to protect that tribe. And I don't care who you are. If you come against me and you're going to harm something in my family, it's me against you then. And so I think that you're seeing a lot of Americans take that mentality,
Starting point is 02:17:49 which, you know, isn't necessarily the unifying idea of it. You know, I would hope that we could be civilized but I fear that you're right Wes why don't you lend us your thoughts yeah they
Starting point is 02:18:07 I mean people aren't going to be civilized look how people are acting now like how people are acting now they're like animals when you go into the grocery store I mean knocking people over to get toilet paper there's not a shortage of toilet paper it's like why is everyone running in to get to just look how people act in story.
Starting point is 02:18:25 Look how people act on social media. You tell me, these people are, this is our best bet for the future, for these people to come together. I think you're a little, I think people are crazy thinking that. I would like to believe that as Americans will come together. But, you know, there's that famous quote.
Starting point is 02:18:42 I think it's from the Joker. The civilized people will, when true, when really bad things happen, they will eat each other. And I really believe that. I mean, you can just see how people behave. Talk about prophetic.
Starting point is 02:18:55 Just getting, you know, and it's really, and we're not under, there's no reason to run out and get toy trip right now. There's no reason to go, you know, and just empty the shelves and the store. If everyone went in and said, I need this for my family for right now, it would be fine, but that's not how people are behaving. But, and Woody brought up a good point. I didn't think about the pharmaceutical, or maybe it was you, Tony. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:18 The pharmaceutical comes from China. A lot of things from China. and I know they were talking about shunned down the ports here on the West Coast here in Washington. And I can't believe this is happening. I've never seen this before my life. I've never seen such a thing. And I think Woody's right. I think the true test will be in the next week.
Starting point is 02:19:40 My concern is come Monday when those stock markets open because that's a domino effect, right? When one thing falls, the rest of them fall. And that's my biggest concern. and right before the market's closed, all of a sudden they closed all the schools, not only in Washington, but in Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania. I mean, pretty much everywhere. They closed all the schools, and they're telling people to stay home. And my biggest concern is when that stock market opens come Monday,
Starting point is 02:20:08 not because I'm worried about money. That's the least of my problems, but that has a major impact on how everyone else reacts. And how that market react, people are going to start flipping out. I tend to agree with Woody. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. I don't foresee Americans all coming together. I'd like to see that, but I don't think that's how it's going to happen. Yeah, I mean, I know.
Starting point is 02:20:33 Go ahead, Woody. And I got one other things before you guys letting it go. But let's think about the big picture again. NBA is closed down. Hockey's closed down. MLB's closed down. We have all these major sporting events closed down. We have the EMGM closed down.
Starting point is 02:20:52 No wind is closed down. I received notifications today that in Maryland, all the casinos, sports betting, horse betting, everything is closed down. Basically, we're closing every, every freaking thing down around us. And what do you say to that, you guys? I mean, everything's closing. So that tells me, hey, let's do self-isolation. Let's go home.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Let's do the 14 days. Let's do the six weeks. Let's go six weeks, whatever it's think. We still have people going to the parks. We still have people going to the casino's wearing masks using the hand sanitizer. We still have people doing, we still have a fast food outlet chains opened up. We still have Walmart opened up. We still have all these major, all these major companies that are still open up.
Starting point is 02:21:47 And not all of them and not all of them are providing, I don't know what the exact word is for it, but there should be some sort of pay when they're not up work because if they possibly have COVID-19 or if they possibly are in a situation to where they shouldn't be there, these people are not receiving a paycheck. And I hate to go back to what I just said earlier that these people have no paycheck.
Starting point is 02:22:10 Now they have no money for food. We don't have stores that have any food. We have gas stations that are closing down. Come on, guys. Where are we at with this? You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. And Tony, on a side note, also I heard today, I can't, I can't confirm or deny that I heard a person to where I'm employed at tell me today that there was a person, there was another individual in the Seattle area.
Starting point is 02:22:38 And I'm not trying to freak you out. I'm not doing this for ratings or anything like that. But there is a person that was pregnant up in the Seattle area that one of the child before the year even born is, has COVID-19. Sure or not, I don't know. Yeah, and those are the things that worry me, man. That's another thing. Let's think about that. So, no, Tony, let's put that on your plate.
Starting point is 02:23:00 You'll do whatever it takes, right? I mean, any parent would. And that's a state that we're in right now, and I don't think people are accepting it or accepting it or denying it. They're just kind of like oblivious everything. Yeah. It's like, and Tony, you said earlier, let's come together. Let's do this. Great.
Starting point is 02:23:21 Sounds great. But you know what? How? They're far from us. Yeah, exactly. And I absolutely agree with you. It's the concept, great. What should we do that?
Starting point is 02:23:30 Absolutely. Will we? Most definitely not. Because I know how we are on the East Coast, and I don't know about the rest of the country, but I can't see my fellow East Coasters coming together and saying, you know what, let's just do the right thing. I hope to God that's the case. Right.
Starting point is 02:23:46 But I hope for the best, plan for the worst. listen, we're running short on time with the on-air stuff. So we're going to wrap up things, guys. Woody, I think you were a great person to end the show with. Wes, thank you very much for tuning in. You guys are really? You think Woody was the, you really think Woody was the best guy to end the show with? Shut them off. Actually, I should just hang up on Wes. No, but I do appreciate, Wes, you being here and just kind of hanging out and stuff and talking with the people. and Woody obviously thank you very much for calling in. And I think we might have some more COVID-19-type shows coming around the corner here, friends. I think this is something that's worth our attention. And so if you didn't get in on the phone lines tonight, no fears there. We will probably be doing this again fairly soon. So until then, friends, take care, stay safe. And remember, the truth will set you free. But first, it will be pissed you off. You're killing me, Gamer.
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