The Confessionals - 244: The Mothman Haunting

Episode Date: June 23, 2020

In Episode 244: The Mothman Haunting, we speak with Ryan about his recurring psychological experience with the Mothman as a young boy, just after he visited Point Pleasant, West Virginia. But before Ryan’s interview, we dive into a recent UFO case that is being called "the modern Roswell." In May 2020, the entire town of Mage, Brazil experienced a strange UFO sighting that involved the military and a possible altercation in the sky. The case spans UFOs, military battles, and extraterrestrials, some of which were speculated to survive the aerial altercation, their location now unknown.BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinGet Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.com Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Show Art: Alika Spahn Naihe (www.hauoliart.com)

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.

They basically decapitated. Something pulling at my leg. And I look over, and there are two small gray entities. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air. Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move. because I know I'm seeing a monster. Yep.

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We either are going to do the whole thing for the public or maybe the first half for the public and then the second half for members. I'm not sure yet. But we're going to be talking to Mr. X Dreams, who is somebody that has opinions about what's going on in today's current event climate. He is a police officer in Miami. He happens to be an African American police officer, and he's going to be coming on to talk about his experiences of what's been happening behind the scenes in his life. And he's also going to be talking about a lot of different paranormal type dreams that he's been having. And it's just going to be a great conversation. If you remember,

we had him on for episode 118, taking the red pill with Mr. X-Treams. It was an awesome show. Him and I got to know each other, and we've been in constant communication since then. He's a great guy, and I promise you're going to love this live show with a live call-in number. So please be ready to call in and add to the conversation. This show is going to be live on the website. Go to the Confessionalspodcast.com, and at the top tab, you'll see live show on Friday. You click that, and you'll be able to watch the live show right there for the public.

And if I go private, members, you'll be able to watch the entire show right away from the members' home page. So if that interests you, check it out Friday night, 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time with me and Mr. X Dreams live. Now, this week we have Ryan coming on the show, and he has a moth man-like experience. And he has a lot of other paranormal experiences that are going to be sharing with us. But before we get to Ryan, I want to share with you some things that I have been finding out about a UFO experience that people have been having in Brazil that people are starting to call the new Area 51. This is something that happened last month. I've been hearing about bits and pieces here and there. And it has to do with a UFO experience that a lot of people in MAGB Brazil had

and the military was involved and the U.S. military was involved. So we're going to get to all that information now. And then we're going to bring on Ryan. Let's go. Did you have an encounter with an extraterrestrial being? Fife Brazil was ground zero. People write questions because they kind of think they already know the answers. 400 people saw two different ships come down with two different sizes of creatures. He was able to detect the fetus of some creature. According to Mufon, the largest privately funded UFO research organization in the world,

there are 500 UFO sightings in the world every month, every month. ... ...their blocker of the industry. You, it's here, a disco voado, very grand, so I'm a monobos. People, very great. Not a mentira, not me too. You're awake, by the way.

You're not having a terrible, terrible dream. Also, you're not dead, and you haven't gone to hell. This morning, the Pentagon is bracing for more questions about this secretive $22 million Pentagon program, which they acknowledge for the first time over the weekend, to investigate UFOs among the questions, why they say they shut it down, what they could have potentially learned,

We learn about visitors to our planet, perhaps most importantly, when visitors come in pace. Navy jets couldn't keep up with them at times. One of the pilots, we quote, was looking down into the water and saw a huge object under the water and another object covering a gun. A lot of it. There's a heavenly body right here in our solar system. All of a sudden it takes off. No aircraft that we know of can fly at those speeds. maneuver like that and looks like that.

I think it was not from this world. New York has come under attack. Witnesses claimed you have seen hundreds of UFOs. It's opening fire. I want to talk to you guys about this experience has been happening or happened in Maj Brazil. I think that I'm pronouncing that right. M-A-G-E Brazil.

There was a big UFO experience that happened last month in May, and I think it was May 12th or May 13th. I've been hearing different reports, but I think it was either May 12th or May 13th that this happened. And there was a whole town of MAG that actually saw these UFOs, these lights in the sky, forming in different shapes, doing different maneuvers. And a lot of people were catching it on video and they're tweeting it out. They're putting it on Reddit and it was going viral instantly. It was all over the place on Twitter, but something happened.

Those tweets and those Reddit posts were taken down. Nobody knows why. There's theories out there, but one thing's for sure. Maj Brazil UFO was a hashtag that was trending on Twitter, trending enough that it caught a lot of people's attention. There was a lot of tweets going out about it. And then all of a sudden, it was deleted off Twitter and it was deleted off Reddit. And now, obviously, your conspiracy bones kicking in and be like, ah, why? Well, maybe it's because it was real.

And they didn't want people talking about it. You see, there was UFOs all over the sky. There was videos, there's pictures. They're popping up everywhere on Twitter and Reddit. There were some videos that I found that I didn't think were very authentic because it almost looked like something out of Star Wars. It looked like an intergalactic battle happening in the sky and blue beams shooting down to the ground.

I didn't think that was real. But there were videos that I came across when I was trying to dig for this that I think might have been real. And I've also found pictures and videos of tree tops that were snapped off from a supposed UFO crash. And then days after, especially the day after, there were helicopters flying all over the place in Brazil, low to the ground, in pairs all over. People were filming them the whole next day. Now, I'm going to take pictures and I'm going to take videos and I'm going to post them on the website to confessionalspodcast.com underneath this episode description. So you can see anything that I have

been able to find. If you find some stuff about this, I would definitely like you guys to email me because I'm very, very interested in this because of what supposedly happened in MAG Brazil that night. See, they had these UFOs and everybody saw it, but apparently the Brazilian military or the U.S. military or both, I'm not totally sure, approached these things and something happened. The UFO made a maneuver and we supposedly shot it out of the sky and it gets better from there. But I want to play you an audio from a show that I've mentioned several times on this podcast, Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis. He covered this last month, probably a few days after it actually happened. And he had a caller call into the show that has a cousin in the military that was

directly connected to this event. And his cousin informed the audience as to what happened when they shot it out of the sky. Take a listen. Just got word that Jake, the guy in Texas wants to talk to us about his cousin. We're going to go to him and have him give his report. Jake, go right ahead. You're on Ground Zero. Hey, that is what I'm a very, very short amount of time right now but I just wanted to say

that thing that happened in what's it called Brazil. There's no coincidence that we launched the X37B just recently. That thing was manned. And what my cousin came around and told me, he told me that we shot it down and it was

supposed to be a peace package, but because We shot it down. They thought it was aggression. So we got to send us someone up to talk to everyone and get everything chilled out. So, okay, so the X-37B was launched, but the X-37B wasn't shot down. No, no, it wasn't. We shot down the UFO in Brazil. Okay, so we accidentally shot down the UFO in Brazil is what he said?

Well, we shot it down because they thought they were being aggressive, but they were not. Oh my God. So it was being aggressive to the X-37B and we shot it down. No, no. So we shot down the UFO craft, right? But, okay, tell me, just tell me what happened here because I'm asking too many questions. Go ahead. We shot down the X-37 last week.

Shot it up. The X-30, not the X-37, the UFO last week. When the X-37 launched this time yesterday, it was that were initially not supposed to be manned, but they wound up scrubbing it because they had to put a man on it in order to keep the people out there from becoming aggressive. When we shot them down, they did not realize that what they were doing, we deemed aggressive. So we need to send someone up there to let cooler heads prevail.

Okay, so anyway, it was a misunderstanding then. Yes. All right. So what you hear there is this caller calling. in saying that the UFO or UFOs did a maneuver that we perceived aggressive, therefore we shot it out of the sky. And then we had to send up the X37B, which is a spacecraft the next day. I guess we had it scheduled to go up, but it was supposed to be unmanned. And they supposedly manned it because they had to send somebody up to talk to extraterrestrials from what it sounds

like and make a peace offering pretty much saying, we're sorry, we perceived it as an aggressive. of maneuver. Please don't start an intergalactic war with us. That's what I got from that. It's very interesting and it gets better from here, friends. So we supposedly shoot this craft out of the sky because we perceive it to be something aggressive. Now, when this happened and this UFO crashed to the ground, there were a lot of people who said that they saw this thing crashing to the ground. There's supposed video out there that I'll share with you guys on the website. And there's actually another show called Vaz Istas. It's a German podcast, and they had a call or call in that sounded like he was from Brazil talking about one of his relatives living in Maj, informing him that not only did they

shoot it out of the sky, but there were gunfire and explosions on the ground. And supposedly, the United States military shot a hole in the UFO and beings came out. One got shot dead and two escaped into the forest. Check it out. I really believe something happened, something crashed on the ground of Magu in Brazil, Rio de Janeiro. And what I'm talking to you at the last call about the three beings came out from the ship is only tell for me, for my wife, from a friend of her who lives in Mages today, actually today. I don't have a video from the beings. No one has a video from these beings.

Or less on the media, on the YouTube. Don't have these videos. This is information from people who lives in Mejé, okay? Okay. Hit the ground on the Thursday to Wednesday night. And at the Wednesday morning, the army come. And the shots, who people hear from the city, is shot, or like these explosives, to open the ship.

And with these three beings came out, one shot and dead in the place and two run from the forest. This is the reason for the search unstoppable of the Brazilian and American army. This is what are the friend of my wife, tell to us today, another day, another time today. She said this to us at Friday and today again. But I can hear you. I don't know if you ask me, sorry. I really want to talk with you about this.

Now, what you heard there is this caller calling in. They actually had technical difficulties during this call. Like, they couldn't hear each other at certain times. It was very strange. I know some people had suggested that this was something being hacked. I'm not so sure because it might have just been a technical glitch on their end. But what you hear is this caller saying that he knows somebody that lives in Maj or Maje. I'm not sure how I've pronounced it.

But they had reported that we shot a hole and beings came out and one of the beings was shot dead to escape. And that's the reason why there were helicopters. And we have video of helicopters flying all over Brazil that day searching. for these entities. Apparently, when this happened, they actually blocked off the entire area so that nobody could get in or out because they were frantically searching for these beings. This is what has been reported. Now, there's more to this story. You see, this person called into Vasistas podcast to talk about this experience. There's actually something else that came out recently

that actually backs up his claims. There was a hacked Brazilian military radio transmission that was recorded of supposedly the military in Brazil talking about this very incident and talking about how they need to be careful approaching the UFO and seeing humanoid beings coming out of the UFO and to be careful because you don't have the protective gear that you need to approach these things. It's very shocking. And the actual audio from this transmission is in Portuguese. And I don't understand a bit of it. But fortunately, Linda Moulton Howe actually covered this story and got somebody who speaks fluent Portuguese and fluent English to translate the video. And we're going to listen to that. But before we get to that part, I actually want to

play a little bit of the audio for you in Portuguese so you just know that I'm not making this up. There is actually a radio transmission that's actually done in Portuguese. I don't understand a bit of it, but we have a translation audio coming right after this little clip of the actual radio transmission that was hacked from the Brazilian military. Yes, Lisa. Yes. Yes. Hi, Linda. Thank you so much for your help. The first thing that I would like to do is to have you read the translation of that audio card. You give me an English the translation from the Portuguese that is in the audio disclaimer at the end of the YouTube tape.

And my understanding is this is supposed to be hacked audio into a military radio communication about what has happened between the Brazilian military and UFOs that were videotaped and that I am showing over the city of Majé, Brazil. 706, stationed by radio between the military teams, base 1, 2, 3, and 4. Radio noise. Number 4 confirms arrival at the station. Alcuntera base confirms the damage of the object with an American shot. What do you understand American shot means, Lisa? No. You do not understand.

No, I don't. Go ahead with the rest of the translation that you have in English from Portuguese. Okay, 717. Confirm if it was shot down. Radio noise, not understandable. 726, 7.30. Confirm position. Go to the location.

You will need three or four teams. There are too much material to collect. You have to take the small road. 731. Did you copy base two? 732. By the small road, it's not possible to descend. 740.

Did you copy base three? 737. It doesn't have you. human appearance. Did you copy? 740. Radio noise. There are only these. There are no more. More radio noise. The others were in such a state that we can only take the ones that are here. 750. Did you copy base, too? Confused audio, not very clear and distorted. They are talking about clothes. 754. Go with protection.

Nobody is going to touch those things. 7.58. These bodies are not human. Over. No way we can touch on those things. 803 till 808. Not understandable. 8.08 till 811.

He is talking about taking down a drone. 812. Confirm if the equipment was taken down. 813. Capture the equipment shot down, drone. Also is to be taken. 815. The truck is going down by the small road.

Over. 820. Positive. 8.23. Go. taking it slowly by part, kill the factory, and there will, and there we will see what to do. 828. It has to be taken with camouflage over.

835. Radio voice distorted. Everything is smashed, damaged, damaged, and there is no way we can put it there. There are more bodies inside. I have never seen such a thing. These things are not people. 845. Do you copy base to you?

846. Do not approach to without proper clothes. Wait until it arrives. Take it as it is. 852. At the patio, it's protected. Close. Cover.

everything well so nothing can be seen. Did you copy? 857. Radio noise. 9.05. Retrieve all cell phones from the guards. Did you copy? Do not allow anyone to record anything. Do you copy? 913. I did copy base two. 915. Base one. The American court from Alcunfra. going to the base position and will retrieve the objects.

Did you copy? 922. It is to operate within the Agia Protocol. What is that translated? What is A-G-U-I-A protocol? A-G-U-I-A-A-G-A-G-A-G-A-G-A-G-A-G-A-G-A-G-A-G-A-G-E-G? means eagle. Uh-huh.

So this is saying this last line that all of this is to operate within the eagle protocol. Uh-huh. All right. So there you have it. There's the audio from the hacked radio transmission that supposedly came from the Brazilian military where they're talking about approaching this downed aircraft, how to handle it, how to get it out of there, and talking about what they saw, these creatures or these beings and what they looked like. There's more bodies inside. very interesting stuff. I'm going to post the transcript from this audio on the website so you can

actually read along with it as you listen if you'd like. But I'm going to be posting as much as I can as I found it on the website for you guys to listen to and think about. But some things to think about here real quick is one, apparently there was confirmed flight radar that military planes were going from DC to Brazil at that time that this all took place. And also I want you to think about along the lines of our military, our government being involved, it was about a week later when Donald Trump announced the travel ban to Brazil and underneath the facade maybe, I say maybe, of COVID-19. That was the whole thing where, you know, COVID-19 so bad there that we're not going to be traveling to or from Brazil. Maybe this had actually something to do with

it. Maybe there was something so serious going on in Brazil that they had to shut it off. I don't know. But one thing I do know is that just last week, there was video circulating around Twitter of Brazilian officials. I think it was the Brazilian Parliament or something like that. Going into hospitals that were supposedly locked up, nobody could get in or out because COVID-19 was so bad there. And it's on video. These people that work for the government of Brazil kind of like pushed their way through

the doors to see this whole thing. And the whole hospital that I saw on video was empty, completely empty. There was like no patients there whatsoever. And I have no idea. what they were saying because I don't understand it. The whole thing was in Portuguese, but it was very interesting to see that happen as well. So is there a cover-up when it comes to this idea that Maj Brazil might have had the modern Area 51 happen just last month in May during the COVID-19 pandemic? Very, very interesting stuff. I hope you guys enjoyed some of

this information I share with you. Let's get to Ryan right now. This is Alan Free downtown, folks. There's a big crowd here. The police are thinning out the crowd here folks and we can see that the spaceship has actually landed. For an on-the-spot report, we switch you to Al Jasbo Collins. Yes, friends, here we are. And the police are trying to open the door of the strange craft. The entire city is mezzolide by the large amount. An unidentified enemy has reached on his line. John Chancel,

right now one thing is clear. The world is at war. I want them to think whatever they think. They do say, I mean, I've seen and I've read and I've heard, and I did have one very brief meeting on it, but people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly.

Can and more. I'm going to turn you off. Do you think you know if there were evidence of extraterrestrial? Well, I think my great power, great pilots would know. Pilots will know. Ending final, final test. But still, the rockets, but still, the rockets. You've used up everything you can and more.

And the ship slipped to a halt at the edge of a vast city that reflected the icy glare of the moonlight. But still, the rockets, but still, the rockets. We are not destroying anything. But we'll watch it. the first to know. All right. Today we got Ryan on the show.

Ryan from Northwest Ohio. How are you, sir? I'm doing all right. How are you, Johnny? I'm doing good, man. So the reason why I say Northwest Ohio is because when we first connected, I asked you were from, and I was thinking you were going to say West Virginia or something like that from the content we're going to be covering today.

You said Ohio. I'm thinking, okay, southeastern Ohio, because he's definitely got a southern accent. And you're like, nope, born and raised northwestern Ohio. I'm like, how does that happen? Yep. Yeah, man, it's really cool. But I'm glad you reached out and talked to us because you are the first person that contacted me that has a mothman experience.

And so I'm really interested to hear about what you experienced. So if you could, just start from the beginning. How did this all unfold for you? And what happened? All right. So I have family down in West Virginia. And they live in like the hills of wards. West Virginia. I mean, it takes

45 minutes to get up to their place that they live at and stuff like that. And this happened back when I was about five years old. I'm 25 now. Going to be 26. So this is like 20-some years ago when this happened. So what happened

was my parents were getting married down in West Virginia, because that's where my dad's family is from. So we go down there for the wedding and the first few nights are completely fine. My parents got married. They're at their reception and everything.

And the place we were staying at is actually my grant aunt's house. And at the time, she had like an enclosed front porch area. And that's where all the kids were staying and all the parents are in the basement and stuff like that sleeping. So about, I would say, a day or so after my parents' wedding, which is probably like three or four days after we got to West Virginia. I'm sleeping like normal, run the front porch and everything, and I just start having this weird feeling. Like I was dreaming at the time,

but I started having this weird feeling, and I started having this weird dream that I've never had before. And so this dream was, I was in this pitch black area, like it is pitch black to start out. And then I started seeing like a little bit of light from the moon,

and I just see these trees. But I had this weird presence, and, you know, I'm five years old, so I start freaking out, and I start running in this dream. Well, I'm running and running and run, and that's all that happened. I woke up the next morning, and, you know, there was nothing. I just kind of played off as a bad dream and stuff like that. So I had that dream one more night that we stayed in West Virginia, I just had this weird feeling the entire, you know, dream and stuff like that, but I didn't know what was going on.

So we go back to Ohio and for the next like two to three years, I had this same exact dream like two to three times a week. And I would just like wake up with these weird scratches. I would be sweating and, you know, I didn't know what was going on, but I was still having this dream. and I didn't want to tell my parents at the time because I'm five, six years old and one of my favorite shows actually was Curz of a Cowardly Dog on TV and, you know, that show was kind of weird

and my mom didn't like me watching it so I was scared as, you know, if I tell her that I'm having these weird dreams, she would, you know, stop me from watching this show so, you know, I didn't watch it or I didn't tell them about it. So after those dreams and everything, they go on for two to three years. And we go back, we actually go back to West Virginia after they get married.

It was like three years later, like I've had these dreams. So we go back to West Virginia. The first few nights, I didn't have any of these dreams. And I was like, okay, cool. I'm used to having these like two to three nights a week. well then one of the nights I just start having that weird feeling again and it was same exact as before running through this forest I could just feel something like either chasing me or something or just watching me I just have this weird feeling so that dream happened and then the next night I'm laying there I'm sleeping and we're still on this front porch area and you know I just started having a a really, really, really bad feeling like something I've never had happened before. So this dream starts out the same like it always does. I'm running through this forest and stuff like that.

Well, then this time, as I'm running, I starts to see like a brighter light. It couldn't make out what it was. And as I'm getting closer in this dream, I see like an outline of a house, but I couldn't tell what type of house it was. So I get to it and I'm standing there I stop in the dream I'm just standing there and I'm like frozen I can't move or anything Well then I look over And I just see this shadow figure And it's got like red eyes

And I didn't know what it was it freaked me out So I'm just standing there frozen Looking at this thing And it's just looking towards that outline of the house area And I'm just I don't know what to do. I'm just frozen. I can't wake up or anything. Well, then we actually had our dog with us this time. And I woke up to this dog growling. I don't know why I woke up. But this, I mean, this dog was probably one of the nicest dogs I've ever met. She never growled at anyone, never barked at anyone. But she just starts growling and it wakes me up. And she's staring out this window. And I'm like, what do you? staring at and at this time

I'm like eight years old or something that. So I'm like staring out this window trying to figure

out what she's growling at and probably 200 feet from the house in the wooded area I just see these red eyes

just staring right at me and I froze I mean I didn't know what to do I couldn't think

couldn't do anything I'm just frozen and I just weird like dark feeling that, you know, this thing's just watching me. So I start to stand up and the entire time I'm thinking, I'm like, please God, just please make this thing go away from, please, you know,

make it leave me alone. And as I'm going to light, I see this thing just start to turn around. And as it's turning around, I just see, I don't know if his arms or, you know, wings or something and just spread out and just take off. And it's nothing I've ever seen before. I mean, these red eyes were staring right back at me, and it made me freeze. I had this dark feeling. But then, you know, as soon as I started asking for help,

this thing was just turntailed and run. And I know it wasn't a person, because it's like 3 o'clock in the morning, and to get up to where my aunt lives, It's like a 35-minute drive winding in and out of this mountain area. And to this day, I honestly do not know what it was. But I know that through the Mothman, like, you know, stories and stuff, they only live like an hour, maybe an hour and 15 minutes away from where all that took place at.

So to this day, I just, those red eyes, I just, I don't know how to explain it. Yeah, I mean, the red eyes are definitely something that kind of makes you feel like it's a clue as to what it could be. And the Mothman stories are very compelling. And the whole thing about Mothman, I can understand why you draw those connections. When you were dreaming about this and you saw the red eyes, didn't you say it actually stood up and raised its arms out just like it did when you were looking at it through the window? Yeah, yeah. It kind of like moved its arms and started to like stretch. them out. And that was in the dream. And, you know, I thought, hey, this is just a bad dream,

you know, I mean, but it was just weird that I've had this same exact dream for two to three years after my first experience where I felt like something was there with me just staring at me, but I could never see anything. And just, it's just, I don't know how to explain it, to be honest. Yeah, I mean, it's almost like when you were five and this first happened, you felt like something was, you know, with you. It almost feels like to me something maybe attached itself to you and knew you returned when you came back a few years later. That's what it sounds like to me, because it's just interesting how you started having these dreams after you had that feeling the first time around. And you continue to have those dreams. It's almost like it was calling you,

which is weird to think about and scary to think about. But it was like it never left you. And when you came back, it knew it, and it was time to reveal itself. When it stood up and raised its arms out, did it have wings? Or was it arms? Do you, or couldn't you really tell? You know, it was, like I said, it's like three o'clock in the morning. To me, it just looked like something just raised. I mean, it kind of looked like a fabric type thing. Like, you know, like if someone would have like a cape or something, I mean, it's silly to explain it like that. but it just like raised up and then I saw it like raised down and then it just took off so to I mean eight years old I'm thinking I mean is this a person like you know at that time it's like when these things aren't real I mean there's no way these things are real so I mean I just kind of thought you know maybe as someone playing a joke but then as I've gotten older and stuff I'm thinking back to the story and stuff it's like there's no way to someone's going to walk up that mountain at 3, 4 o'clock in the morning when it takes 45 minutes

to get up to where she lives at. And that mountain is filled with, you know, all these types of animals like mountain lions and stuff like that. But this thing was definitely not one of those because this thing was on, like, there was on two feet standing up. And there was probably, I would say, normal human height. So when you say that it took off, do you mean it took off like it ran off or do you think it, or was it like it jumped into the air and it was gone? Yeah, when it took off, it kind of like, it didn't go like a, it didn't like take off like 10 feet

in the air. It took off like three or four feet off the air. And it kind of looked like a jump, but, I mean, this thing took off fast. I mean, it was gone in like half a second. And is it hard for you to think about this experience all these years later. Is this something that like haunts you? Yeah. Like right now I'm telling it, I'm getting like the chill. talking about it because, you know, I was five to eight years old when this happened and, you know, it's something that I've never been able to put my finger on. It's like, you know, I've heard all these other different stories and but this one, it kind of freaked me out because it felt like this thing was like, like you said, like attaching it to myself. Like I had these dark, dark,

like a presence that was with me and it kind of creeped me out, especially when we came back to Ohio, I mean, I don't know. I always felt like something was like, I don't know, like when I had those dreams and stuff, it just felt like something was always there, like something was always watching me or chasing me or something. And, I mean, there was times I was five, six years old. I couldn't sleep at night, but I didn't want to tell my parents because I liked the TV shows and stuff that I liked watching, and I didn't want to get in trouble for watching those

and not be able to watch them anymore. So I was just kind of scared. And I mean, it was just weird because, like I said, I would wake up sweating. I would have, like, these scratches. Like, you know, like you're running through the wood. You get these scratches. But I could never explain them. And I just played it all if I was, oh, yeah, having a recess and stuff like that.

Yeah, that's interesting, man. It's definitely interesting. And the fact that, you know, like you said, I don't think that was a person. What person is going to come up into that area that you described at night to have hopefully a random experience where they get to scare a kid through a window. And how would they even know that you stood, that you were looking out of the window? I mean, it's dark out, I'm assuming. Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's three, four o'clock in the morning when this happened.

It's pitch blackout. They live on a mountain. I mean, like I said, it takes 45 minutes to get up there. There's barely any streetlights. There's, I mean, there's electricity up there, but there's no, like, barely, there's maybe three or four streetlights on the entire mountain. But where she lived at, there was no streetlights. so all you could go off was this small spotlight that pointed down at the front door,

but it didn't point out into the woods and stuff like that. So it's like I know it wasn't a person. I just, I don't know what it was. It was just weird that when I started, you know, asking God to help me and stuff like that, that it kind of turned tail and ran. Yeah, I mean, that is interesting. I mean, you've had a lot of time to think about this. And with the idea of it being Mothman, and it sounds like it could be a Mothman experience.

And, you know, I know that's probably what you're leaning towards. What are your thoughts on what Mothman could be? I mean, do you think it's like a monster and a cryptid, a demon? What do you think? An alien? I mean, what first made me want to tell this story was you guys did a think tank a while back. And I forget who mentioned it, but he mentioned something about Mothman maybe being a demon and these demons taking forms of these creatures to try to attach to people and stuff

like that. And that's what really made me start thinking about this story again, because I mean, I put it in the back of my head for years. I mean, I didn't want to think about it and stuff like that. And then I listened to that episode and it kind of brought just everything forward again, like, oh, you know, this actually happened. Like, I don't know why I put it in the back of my head for so long. I mean, but yeah, I listened to that think tank and I forget what episode it was. But you guys were talking about cryptids and stuff like that and how they may be demons and stuff like that because like Dog Man, you know, if you pray to God and stuff like that, there's been a lot of encounters where this thing will turn tail and run. Yeah. And, you know,

it's it's one of those things where we don't know what these creatures are. All we do know is what people tell us happens when they encounter them. And so that's what we go off of. And so we're not trying to say, yeah, dogman, Bigfoot, or demons or whatever. Like, I mean, some of us have our opinions and thoughts on it and what we lean towards, but none of us on that show, and I think it was episode 72, the one you're referencing, uh, none of us actually, you know, want to come across as somebody who says, this is exactly what it is, uh, because we don't know. We don't know. But, um, it, from what it sounds like, it definitely, oh, I will say, I will spill water on myself.

But from what it sounds like to me, it definitely sounds like, you know, you could have had some kind of demonic encounter at the very least if it wasn't a mothman experience. The red eyes thing is something that really kind of tips me off towards, you know, turning my head sideways a little bit because a lot of times people have these red-eyed experiences and it's not always with the moth man or demons. Sometimes it's with a dog man. Sometimes it's with a Sasquatch. And it's like, you know, I think I even said it on episode 72.

Sometimes, like, you're looking at all these experiences and you're like trying to compare notes. And you're thinking, okay, this person had red eyes. This person had red eyes. But they're talking about two different things. Maybe there's something else going on here that we don't really totally understand, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it's just, I've never seen like eyes like that before. even like an animal with like a light hits them at night or whatever.

I've never seen something. I mean, they were like bright red. And just the way they're looking at me, it kind of, you know, it still freaks me out thinking about it. Like I said, I'm getting chills just sitting here talking about this because to this day, I still don't know what was sitting there staring at me and what its intentions were. Yeah, and I don't think you'll ever really truly know what it was or what its intentions were. but you have this memory. And it's terrifying, man. I can't imagine being an eight-year-old and seeing what you saw or, you know, seven whatever you were. So, yeah, definitely, I don't know. But have you ever talked to anybody else about this that lives in that area? Has anybody ever relayed similar stories to you? No. I mean, this is really the first time I've talked out loud about it. I mean, at the time, you know, like I said, I didn't want to, you know, get in trouble and stuff like that. And I didn't want people think, you know, oh, this gets crazy.

he's seeing stuff. And, you know, ever since I started listening to your show, it's like, you know, I'm not crazy. There's other people out there that have seen stuff like this. And I need to share it because, you know, it could help someone out down the road and stuff like that. Yeah, well, I thank you very much for coming forward and sharing it because, you know, there's been times that I've had somebody on the show sharing experience that kind of hasn't been shared before on the show. And then I get email saying, you know, I heard that person, whatever. I saw the same exact thing. And I don't want to come on the show.

I just want to confirm that, you know, they're not the only ones that have seen something like that. I've seen something like that, too, you know? So it happens a lot. And so I appreciate you coming forward and sharing that experience. Now, has this experience pushed you in a certain direction in life? I mean, because I know you've had some paranormal experiences and you've had a UFO experience. And I'm assuming they came after this initial experience.

Do you think that those other experiences wouldn't have happened if you didn't have the first one? Yeah, because all these experiences, like, paranormal and, like, UFO and stuff like that, it happened. I mean, I was, like, 12 or 13 when I first had, like, my first paranormal experience. So it was, like, a couple years after that. So I don't know if it, like, attached it to myself, and then, like, I repelled it away. But then, you know, it opened up this door to, like, you know, another, like spiritual world or something like that. But yeah, all these experiences and stuff like that happened after this first experience happened.

All right. So why don't you kind of go into some of it? Now, we were talking earlier, and I initially said to you that I'd like to talk to you about the UFO experience first after we talked about the Mothman stuff. But if you could go into the things that happened after the Mothman experience, whatever it was, go into that first. Let's keep it chronological. All right. So, after all that happened that second time, I mean, I didn't have another dream about that thing. You know, I've never another dream about it.

And probably a year or two after that experience, we ended up moving into a new house. And this house was built in 1920s, something like that. and there's an old farmhouse. And down in the basement, you know, it had like the old, like, wood burning stove and stuff like that that you would fill and it would heat the house. And it also had another room where they would stick their meat and stuff like that for in the winter and stuff like that.

But, you know, every time I went down there, I just had this weird feeling something was watching me. And I would hear stuff, like footsteps and all this stuff. and, you know, I just kind of played it off. I know, it's nothing. Well, then, you know, as time goes on, I start hearing more stuff at nighttime, and it's always around, you know, 3 to 4 o'clock in the morning is when I wake up and I start hearing this stuff.

And there's been a couple times where I wake up, because I feel something watching me, but when I wake up, there's nothing there. But in my room, I used to have a flag on the back of the door. And the only time this flag moved is if the door moved or if something walked by it or whatever. And I always shut my door and I didn't have fans on or anything. And there was multiple times where I would feel something watching me. And then when I woke up, I would look up and this flag was waving. And it's just kind of weird because, you know, that flag never moved unless that door opened

or if you walked by it real fast or, you know, stuff like that. So that was some of the first things that were happening when, you know, And we moved into that house. And, you know, every so often I would just hear footsteps when I was home by myself. And it always came from like either the basement if I was upstairs or it would have happened in the second floor and all the bedrooms were I'd be downstairs. And I would just hear footsteps up there, but I was the only one home. And back then, I mean, even if I go stay on my parents now and there by myself, like watching the dogs,

it still happens. Like I still hear those footsteps issues. It's just really weird. So the one experience that really kind of freaked me out at my parents' house, it actually happened to my mom also. And, you know, this stuff only ever happened if, like, people are sleeping

or if there's one person there or whatever. So it was in the summertime. I was in high school at the time. And it was in the summertime. So I'm the only one to, there. My mom's at work, my dad's at work, and my brother, he was out doing something. So it was just me and the dogs and stuff there. And I had gotten up early in the morning to go to weightlifting for soccer. So I came back. It's like, oh, I want to take a nap. I've got nothing to do today.

So I'm laying on the couch and, you know, I just hear this noise like the door shutting. And I'm so tired at the time. I had a headache also, so I'm just laying on the couch. I'm like, I'm not even going to pay attention. It's probably someone coming home early or whatever, like my brother or my mom coming home. So I'm sitting there and the dogs start going nuts in the kitchen. And they always, those two dogs that were in the kitchen, they always went nuts. That's where they hung out at. So I mean, if someone walked in there, they went nuts. So I just kind of brushed it off as they all. Someone came home and, you know, they're just hanging out in the kitchen for now. Well, I start hearing footsteps walking towards the living room. And, you know, the couch I was laying on, like an L-shaped couch, I was laying on the one side. And the dog we had was just sitting there growling, like protecting me, like, all up against me and stuff like that. And then I felt something like sit down on the couch. And then I finally snapped to it and looked over and there's like, you know, absolutely nothing there. So it kind of freaked me out.

So my mom comes home like an hour or two later. And I asked her, I was like, hey, did you have someone come in the house earlier? And she's like, no, why? And I started telling her this story. And as I'm telling it, her eyes start getting real big. And her face just starts to go white. And she goes, you know, the same exact thing happened to me. about two days ago.

And, you know, it was just kind of weird that the same exact thing happened within a couple days from each other. Yeah, and you actually find that, I imagine you would find that comforting knowing that, you know, an adult saw the same thing you saw. Yeah, it's just, I, that, the house that they live in is just kind of weird. I mean, like I said, it's an older house. You know, I hear stuff all the time. You know, that's not the only thing that's happened.

And I mean, at one point, I had my ex-girlfriend there living with me and my parents. And I was at work one night. And I worked third shift at the local college. I was a security officer over there. And I worked third shift. And it's like 2 o'clock in the morning. She's the only one there, just the dogs or whatever. And she calls me and she's like frantic.

Like she's like, I think someone's in the basement. And I was like, what? I was like, no one's there. She's like, I can hear her. footsteps down there, like real loud footsteps, and I swear I hear people talking down there. I was like, what are you talking? I was like, there's no way. The only way to get into the basement was through a door through the kitchen or there's a small window. I mean, a child maybe would fit through it, but that's all. I mean, no adult can fit through there. I was like,

what are you talking about? There's no way no one can get in. And she's freaking out. She's like, I'm telling you, I can hear footsteps right now as we're talking and I can hear talking. And I was like, are you sure? And she's like, well, just stopped. So I get in the truck and I drive home. It's like a two-minute drive. And I actually have my partner with me at the time that we're on shift with. And he comes with me.

And I tell him, I'm telling him the entire way there. She's like, I was like, she's freaking out. She thinks there's someone in the basement. I need to go check this out. So we both go over there. And, I mean, we go down there. I turn the lights on. We have our flashlights and we're looking around.

Absolutely nothing down. there, not even an animal or whatever. And like I said, the only way to get through is like a small window that maybe a child could fit through. I mean, we've had animals crawl through that window. We had to go down there and or call pest control or something to come get it out because there's no way to get back out that window. And it's just weird that, you know, she said she heard these footsteps, people talking and all this stuff. But when we get there, there's absolutely nothing going on. That's very interesting. So these paranormal experiences that you had all happened after the Mothman, but before the UFO experience, right? Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, when I worked at

Owen U also, well, the college or whatever, that's here, there was a bunch of other stuff that went on. I mean, me and my partner or whatever, or the guy who was working with, we, would go in buildings and you know there's one building it's an old music that's where the music department goes and stuff like that and it's one two o'clock in the morning is where we locked the building up no one's in there i mean we check every room in there and as we're locking up we turn all the lights off and we just start hearing a piano play and we're both beside each other we're like did you check all the rooms i was like yeah i was like there's no one in here so we start working walking down where the piano's playing at.

And towards the end of the back of the building, there's rooms that where piano people can go in and, you know, practice and stuff like that. We go down there and all the doors are open and there's no one in there. And we're sitting there staring at each other, like, what the heck was that? Yeah. I mean, do you,

what do you think it was? I don't know, to be honest. I mean, they say that that campus is haunted. there's been a bunch of spottings and stuff like that and people reporting strange things at the campus and we honestly don't know what it was to be honest. I mean, we both looked at each other and we got the heck out of there because we didn't know because we didn't see anything. It freaked both of us out.

Yeah, I can understand that, man, for sure. Where does this UFO experience play in because I'm really interested in this? All right. So me, this happened back in 2013 or something like that. I was dating this girl at the time, and she lived down in the country. And we had just gone back from, I think we went to the movies or something like that. So we're taking back roads back to her house and stuff like that. And we're just driving.

And we both look up. and there's just like this bluish orange glow just like streaking through the sky. And my first thought was I actually said out loud, I was like, oh, hey, look, a shooting star. And as soon as I say that, like, not even like four or five seconds later, this thing just stops, like dead stops and is like hovering there for like, you know, 20, 30 seconds.

And I mean, this thing is like, all I could see was this bluish orange light. I couldn't make out the shape of it. But it was probably good, I'd say, half a mile to a mile ahead of us. And it's probably, you know, four, 500, 600 feet in the air or something like that. But it just like stops. And it's just hovering there. And we're in the middle of nowhere. I mean, it's all cornfields and everything else where she lives at.

And it just stops and it hovers there for 15 to 20 seconds. And I actually pulled over to the side of the road and got out of the car and was like staring at it. And I didn't know what it was. She was out of the car staring at it. And after like 20 seconds or so, this thing does like a 180 and just shoots off back into the sky and like disappears. And we stood there for like three to four. minutes just like not even talking like staring like what in the heck was that thing how far was it from you uh like i said it's probably about maybe a half mile half mile to a mile in between that distance

okay and you don't remember having i hate saying it like that but do you do you recall or do you feel like you had any lost time of any kind um You know, thinking back, I honestly can't remember. And she, like, I remember, like, just being still, like, and we didn't say anything. And then we both kind of, like, snapped out of it and looked at each other. It was like, what in the heck was that? And I honestly did not pay attention to the time on, like, the dashboard and stuff like that, but it was probably, like, you know, 11 o'clock at night.

And, I mean, we just stood there. and I honestly don't even remember like kind of snapping out of it. I just remember looking at her and going, what in the heck was that? Yeah, I mean, the reason why I asked that is because the way you reacted afterwards, you know, kind of like snapping out of it, I just wasn't sure if that meant you might have had missing time or what because, you know, the Mothman experience you had, I feel like sometimes experiences people have early in life kind of like, I don't know, precurs their life in a certain direction when comes to paranormal activity. And I just sometimes wonder if,

like, what you experienced as a kid with the Mothman thing is a direct correlation to what you've experienced the rest of your life. But it may not be either, you know, like, I don't think you've shared anything that makes me feel like it's directly correlated to the Mothman. Yeah. Yeah, it's just, I don't know, I've had like a bunch of weird things happen that I can't explain. And I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to explain. But, you know, it's just that that story about the Mothman or whatever it was, it, like I said, I put it in the back of my head. I didn't talk about it with anyone. And then, you know, I heard it on your show and it kind of just brought everything forward in. I mean, I listened to that show, you know, a while ago. And I just now

reached out because, you know, I was kind of, I was just freaking out, like, about everything I was remembering and all this stuff. Because, you know, know, I was eight years old and this thing was like, I don't know if it's trying to attach it to myself or what, but I mean, it was just weird that I had these dreams for two to three years after that first experience, almost the same exact dream two to three times a week. And after that second experience, they just stopped. Like, I haven't had that dream ever since. You know, that would have been a good question for me to ask. I didn't even think about that just now. So the dreams actually stopped after that second experience.

Yeah, after I, like I said, after I asked God to, you know, take this thing away and leave me be and stuff like that. The dream stopped. I haven't had the dream since. And it's just weird that I had those dreams for two to three years. And then after that second experience and I asked for help, they completely stopped. Like, no dream since then. That's interesting, man.

Well, I mean, at least it's leaving you with some peace of mind, at least. you know, but do you ever feel like you could, do you ever wish that you could go back and just understand what happened more? I mean, with whatever you saw, do you wish you had an affirmative answer as to what it was? Yeah, I mean, looking back, I wish it would have happened when I was a little bit older so I could try to, you know, figure it out more.

Because I mean, I was five to eight years old at the time. I didn't know what it was. I mean, you know, I still don't. don't know what it is. I just, I wish I was a little bit older when it happened. That way, you know, it didn't affect me as much. But who knows, it could have still affected me just as much when I was older. Yeah, well, judging by what other people's experiences have been with the Mothman, it really isn't age specific. So, I mean, it definitely could have affected you big time as an adult from what I hear about the Mothman. It's definitely some scary stuff, man, but, uh, I,

appreciate you coming forward and sharing it, man, because it's definitely interesting. Yeah, like I said, I mean, I don't think I'll ever figure out, you know, what this stuff is. I don't think anyone will. I mean, unless there's like direct contact with, you know, multiple people at once and it gets recorded or something like that. Yeah, that'd be a dream scenario, wouldn't it? I mean, if something, if everything that happens that's crazy in the world to people would happen to mass amounts of people every time, that would be great because then there would be no questioning it. You know, if they had it on video, like, anything that's an anomaly in life, if it could happen just in Times Square every time. So there's,

you know, thousands of people around, tons of cameras, different angles, we catch it on video, be great. But unfortunately, that's not how it works. Yeah. And that's like that UFO or whatever it was an encounter. It was 2013, but I still had one of those old flip phones. So, you know, the recording on those things wouldn't have been that great. And I didn't even think about get my phone out. And, you know, she didn't have a smartphone at the time either. So, you know, the recording on those things are awful, even if we wanted to record what it was. You know, it just came out as a blur. Yeah. And that's, I mean, that's honestly a typical thing as far as people's reactions go. People aren't researchers. You know, most people that experience these things

are just normal people that have, you know, a weird experience. And their first reaction isn't to pull their phone out and film it. Their first reaction is, what the heck is going on here? Because they don't think about these things, you know? And so when it happens, they're just in awe. Yeah, and it, just some of the stuff, I mean, even when I, like I said, when I was working at the college and stuff like that, just some of the stuff, I can't explain it. I mean, I would go through, turn all the lights off, and then I drive by four or five minutes

later, and lights are turned back on. and no one else has a key to that building except for security and maintenance and maintenance wasn't working at the time. So it's like, what the heck? I just turn those lights off. So it's just some of the stuff you can't explain and it's just weird stuff that happens. Exactly. It's some stuff that you can't explain. It just happens. It just happens. It's not like they try to, you know, bring it on or anything like that. It just happens to them. Yep. And I mean, I honestly want to wish anything like what I experienced on anyone because like I said to this day, I'm still, like I said, just sitting here talking about it. My hairs are standing up everywhere. I'm getting the chills. It's just it's freaked me out and I'm still freaked out about it. Yeah, I can understand, man. Absolutely. But yeah, man, I appreciate you coming on and talking to me about it and sharing with the audience. It's definitely something that I think people should at least be aware of that is still happening and can happen to you. pretty much at any age and any time. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, like I said, I just wanted to put it out there just in case someone else is experienced and they don't want to talk about it because they think they're crazy or something like that. It's like, no, this stuff happens to people. I mean,

there's others out there that have experienced this stuff. You don't have to be alone and stuff like that. Exactly right. You don't have to be alone. And, you know, you're not the first person to experience Mothman and you're certainly not going to be the last. I'm sure. sure of it. Exactly. It's just something that happens. And if it does to you, just know that you're not alone. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends because that's the best thing you can do to help the show grow. Just share it with your friends. I don't care how you share the show. Just share the show. If you enjoyed this or you enjoyed any of the shows that I've ever put out, please share the show. Thank you very much for being here.

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