The Confessionals - 272: The Spirit Observer
Episode Date: September 29, 2020In Episode 272: The Spirit Observer, guest Wes shares with us about different entities he has seen throughout his life. These entities do not seem specific to one particular place or event - Wes is a ...frequent traveler and has seen things appear in many different places. In this episode, we discuss whether he is being followed by supernatural entities or if he can see things that most other people cannot. Some people seem to have the preternatural ability to perceive the spirit world around them, and Wes may just be one of those people!BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: https://simplisafe.com/confessionals Get Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: https://bit.ly/2FbOhN5 Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3
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I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappeared.
When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
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And he starts running and firing up this giant.
With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast.
And spears, Dan, holds him up like this.
Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
They basically decapitated.
And I look over, and there are two small gray entities.
And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed.
I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air.
Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster.
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Now, we have Wes coming on the show.
And Wes today is going to be sharing his experiences with seeing these different entities throughout his life.
And here's the thing with Wes, he travels a lot.
He did a lot of traveling.
And these things keep popping up, which makes you feel like they're following him.
Or maybe he's just able to see things that other people really can't see or don't want to see.
Let's bring on Wes right now.
So, Wes, you're in Michigan, right?
Yep, southern part of Michigan, close to Ohio, south of Detroit.
Like we were talking about earlier.
Yeah.
And, yeah, we were talking about Detroit a little bit earlier.
I used to drive, well, I drove Chuck up there for about a week,
helping one of our terminals out.
And I tell you, it was a different experience for sure.
Like, that's a Hammer Lane Legends podcast.
That's not a confessional's podcast.
But so you've had different experiences throughout your life.
And we're going to kind of jump into it here.
And I know you said that you kind of just want to run through some of these experiences and stuff.
So I'm just going to hand it over to you, my friend, and let you kind of take it away and see where things go today.
All right.
That sounds good.
Well, with like my family or whatever, there's like, I guess some stuff kind of like some weird senses that we have.
I think that I'm a little bit more in tune with it because I'm open-minded with everything.
A lot of other people I don't think they like to believe in this stuff.
But either way, there's some weird stuff that goes on.
And it's always at nighttime.
And I feel like it's at the time where we could be sleeping or waking up from a deep sleep, stuff like that.
So I guess we moved around a lot when I was young.
So we lived two different houses.
Finally, when I was about 16, we moved into this house.
And small little house out in the country, it was real nice.
And I remember this is where the first story, I guess, would come from.
And it was upstairs.
I got to say that, because later on, we built rooms, and I had a room in the downstairs.
But when I was upstairs, I remember I was dating this girl, and I decided to paint my room, and I painted it all black and orange.
I don't know why.
So that kind of makes it a little, like, creepier what happened.
So I'm in this.
I'm sleeping one night, and I don't know.
It's like maybe two in the morning, something like that.
I think I had school the next day.
I was in high school.
and like I said, all black, all black room in my bed.
It was the foot of the bed was facing this window, the only window in my room.
And over on the left by the window was a computer desk that I had with my computer
that I used to make music on, make beats and stuff.
So anyways, I was laying there sleeping and it really tripped me out.
So I wake up out of nowhere and I see like this clear figure, which I got to say that too, because the other stuff I've seen, they all change.
This one was the figure of a body.
There's no face, no clothes, nothing like that you can see.
It was like clearish white.
And it was just standing there.
So at first, you know, I'm like, am I really seeing this?
You know, is this the moonlight?
Because obviously the moonlight's coming through.
can see the outline of something, somebody standing there like a body. And I'm like,
what the heck is going on? So anyways, I'm staring at it for a while, just freaked out.
And it starts moving, like it starts walking towards me. And I swear to God, I see it like
turn around and it sits on my bed. And I felt the weight of a person. And that's how I knew it was
real. Like my bed went down. Laying there looking and looking, looking,
of this thing sitting on my bed and I can feel the weight of it. I'm freaked out. Like,
I don't even want to sound like that, but I was like holding my, holding my covers. I couldn't even
move. I was so scared. Anyway, so it's sitting there. I can't move or nothing. I'm not trying to
anything. I'm just trying to pretend like I'm a sleep or something, so it'll just go away.
Next thing, you know, it stands back up and you feel the weight, come back off of the bed.
It goes over by the computer desk and it starts like moving my computer.
computer chair, like basically twist in, turn in it or whatever, like it was going to sit down in it.
It stops.
Then it walks towards a window and like out of the window and disappears and has gone.
And I can't move.
Like even after it was gone, you know, because I'm like, oh my God, is it going to come back?
What is that?
What did I just see?
But I can't move.
I'm freaked out.
I can't go back to sleep.
Nothing.
I just ended up laying there.
I think for a few hours.
So this is like the first incident in this house.
And like I said, I'm probably 16, 17 years old, somewhere around there.
That's the first real incident that I can remember.
So I try to tell people about it, you know, I'd be like, oh, I told my mom, I'm like, mom,
I seen a ghost last night.
I swear to God, you know, she's like, oh, my God, you did not see no ghost.
You know, you were probably just sleeping, blah, blah, blah.
So after that, I'm like, oh my God, like scared to sleep, you know, I'm kind of freaked out.
Like, what is going on? Is this thing in this house? Is it good? Is it bad? I don't know what to think.
After all that, you know, I'm like, had my thoughts stirring around in my head about this house.
Nothing much happened after a while, though. Eventually, like I said, we built some rooms in the basement.
And this basement is like an unfinished basement.
You know, it's just concrete walls, everything like that.
So we built some rooms.
The rooms have no windows in them.
So, and added on to that, it's like you have to walk outside into the garage.
And then there's a stairwell that goes down to the basement.
It's not like you just go into the basement.
I had to go out to the garage to get down there.
So anyways, I move into this room downstairs.
Now there's a room to the left, which was a...
My brother moved to the room on the right.
That was me.
And this is where things really started getting weird in that room.
And like I said, there's no window, so it's pitch black in there,
as if the other room wasn't dark enough, but at least there was a window.
But, okay, so this incident down here is the one that really, I don't know, trips me out
and really changed my mind on the whole thing.
because like I said, the first one I've seen upstairs,
it was the figure of a person, but it was clear.
You know, it's like you can tell it's a person, but you can see through it.
There's no facial features, nothing like that.
So anyways, down in this room, this is, I don't even know how to say it, it's crazy.
Down in this room one night, I'm sleeping or whatever, and my bed is on the,
on the floor.
Like, I didn't have a bed frame or anything like that.
I just had a mattress and a box spring on the floor.
And I have a dog, too.
I was going to tell you that at that point, her name was Juice.
And she's down there sleeping with me or whatever.
And I wake up, pitch black, and standing over me is this person.
It's like a man.
I've got to figure out how to explain this.
So when I painted that room black, the girl that I was dating at that time, she lives about a mile away from me.
And I was real close with her and her family.
My family's real close with her family.
And she lived with her mom, dad, and her brother or whatever.
And her dad is this huge dude.
You know, he's like six, I don't know, six, four, just huge dude.
And he's got this long hair, everything like that, big beard.
intimidating dude so anyways
I wake up in the middle of the night
and like whenever these happen too
I don't just like mozy awake it's like boom
you're all the way alert you're all the way woke up
and you're looking at whatever it is
so I wake up and there's this man standing over me
and it kind of had the facial features
kind of like her dad and he was tall too just like that
but he had real long hair.
He was standing over me, not on my bed, but off to the side, just looking down at me,
had this long hair, a beard, and was wearing all black, like he had kind of like this trench coat type thing on,
and just had like the meanest look on his face in the world.
And at first look, I didn't think it looked anything like that girl's dad.
You know, I just was like, oh, my God, who is this?
So what's crazy is I think this is an actual human in my room standing over me.
So I wake up and I see this what I think is a human in all black.
I leap out of my bed and try to grab his legs, you know, because I'm about to try to fight him or something.
I try to grab his legs.
Boom, I miss.
Feeling around for him, I don't feel anything.
I jump up, turn the light on.
No one's in there.
That changes my whole mind on everything now.
I'm like, oh my God.
Like the first one I seen was clear.
There's nobody in my room, but that was a person.
This looked like an actual person.
Like I said, so I jumped out and I tried to tackle the person.
Couldn't feel nobody, obviously, turn a light on in.
No one's there.
So this changed my whole mind on everything.
Like I said, I was like, first I've seen a clear thing, which I think is a ghost.
And now I see a human, an actual person, but I find out it's not there.
So now I'm like, okay, if I see a person with facial features with clothes looking down at me with this grimace, you know, what did I see the first time?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So, I mean, what I'm hearing is that you thought the second time was an actual person standing over you.
I mean, clearly the way you reacted.
But do you still think that that was an actual person or do you think that was an actual ghost now?
some ideas on what I think I think it was more of like a spirit like a ghost like it used to be
well I don't know I guess they all used to be something or are something but I think it was an actual
like used to be a human and is trapped somehow I think it was a human but different things that
I've seen I've seen people and then I think I'm pretty sure I've seen a demon I'm pretty sure
I've seen an angel, part of me still thinks that the first one I've seen was an angel, even though
I was terrified of it. I think it might have been an angel because it was clear, you know, and it was,
if it's clear, it's not dark, you know, it doesn't have like a darkness about it. And this
person in my room, the way it was the person, the guy was looking at me, like, I feel like he was
mad, like evil, like dark. So I feel like that was like a bad person. And maybe the first one
was an angel or a good person, I don't know, I can't tell you.
That's my thinking on it so far as, you know, like, from what I've seen, I feel like if they
have a lighter look about them, you know, like whitish gray or clearish, you know, I feel like
they're good and I feel like if they have a darkish entity about them, like they're bad or
evil or something.
Or maybe, you know, I think a lot about
biblically, you know, I think about like
maybe this person is in his own hell
and that's why you can't move on.
And maybe a person who has a lighter or a brighter
entity about it or whatever, maybe they're happy.
You know, they're in their own personal heaven but still
haven't moved on. I don't know.
Obviously, there's no like answers right now.
for all of this, which is obviously why we have the show. But that's my thinking on it is this person
standing over me was a bad person. Yeah, I mean, we can only go by your experience and your
intuition on it. So, I mean, if that's how you feel, then that's how you feel. You know,
and I don't think anybody else is in a position really to kind of tell you exactly what you experienced
and what it was. I think there's, I think there's a lot of different explanations that it could be.
and I think that sometimes we experience things, and they actually might be more than just one thing.
I think what we're dealing with is very complex, and I think only time is on our side when it comes to the idea of maybe figuring this stuff out, because it's hard to figure this stuff out, man.
People think they got together.
People act like they got together, and people think they have it all figured out.
I wouldn't go there.
No, I think, I don't know, I think it's all tied together.
Somehow we just haven't figured it out, obviously.
But I think it's right in front of our faces.
Whatever it is that goes on with the paranormal,
with abduction scenarios, even the Bigfoot scenarios.
I think it's all right in front of our faces.
Or maybe it's like a lost kind of knowledge that we use.
used to have. I don't know. But like I said, my thinking on it was the first one, I was terrified,
but I think it was a good entity. And the second one was not a good entity. And I don't think,
because some people might have a haunting or something in their house, and they see the same
thing over and over. And that has not happened to me. I always see different things. And,
They've also kind of followed me around.
I won't say, like they haven't followed me everywhere that I've been,
but I have seen a lot of different things.
So that was the first incident in that room in the basement.
Not long after that, I had another incident,
which this is almost one I forgot about it,
but I remembered it a few weeks ago.
So now I'm down in that room.
It's not nighttime.
Well, it's nighttime, but it's not like.
I'm sleeping or anything like that.
I was down there with the girlfriend I had at that time,
and we were watching a movie, just chilling, whatever.
And what's really weird about it is the movie I was watching was The Fourth Kind.
I liked that movie.
I still do.
Weird movie.
So anyway, the lights are off.
It's probably like 9 o'clock at night.
We're just hanging out watching The Fourth Kind or whatever.
Like I said, there's no windows.
There's no moonlight.
coming in, it's just dark, and you just have the TV screen.
So over to my left, like in the corner, in the corner by the ceiling, like way up high,
I was here in, and my girlfriend was too, this like scratching noise, you know, like it would
scratch, scratch, scratch, and I'd be like, what the heck is that?
You know, look up there, I'm not seeing anything.
It stopped.
I'd hear this scratch, scratch, scratch, look up there, nothing's going on.
eventually I turn the light on pause the movie I'm like all right what's going on you know
get up there I'm climb on top of my dresser looking around I'm not seeing anything there's
nothing behind the dresser like wow that's we're my dresser there's I had a whole bunch of stuff
on there but the one thing that I guess is memorable here is I had this uh this big stack of
CDs you know you buy like uh CDRs and they come in a case
of a hundred and they're on that like that shaft thing yeah or whatever so i had this big stack of
CDs just full of like sounds for like my music or whatever and it was just sitting on there
so i shut the light off whatever all that scratching was going on boom i hear a scratch again
turn a light on whatever nothing there shut it off again play the movie after a little while
eventually i swear to god something smacked the uh them CDs
off of my dresser and CDs just went everywhere.
And it's not like it was hanging on the edge of my dresser.
It was literally like back towards the wall, everything like that.
So CDs go everywhere and we're both just like, what is going on?
Turn the light on.
At this point, I just shut the movie off.
I'm like, all right, we're going upstairs.
We go upstairs and we just hung out upstairs the rest of the night.
I try to tell people, you know, I'm like, okay, last night, you know, I heard this scratching and then something smacked my CDs off of my dresser.
They're like, oh, I don't know, you know.
Could have been anything.
Maybe you're just hearing stuff.
Maybe you had it just hanging on the edge of the dresser.
It just fell.
No, I swear to God, something slapped the CDs off the dresser like it was mad.
Here, only one where I didn't see something.
I wish I was lucky enough to be able to see whatever it was.
slapped the CDs.
Because I'd have been like, you know, that's my CDs.
Don't slap my CDs.
Either way.
Yeah, slaps the CDs or whatever.
CDs go everywhere.
My girlfriend's freaked out now.
You know, she's like, oh, my God, I don't like being in your room down there.
I mean, I don't blame you, but whatever.
Anyways, that goes on.
A few other small things happen, you know, nothing too major in that house for that.
period of time right there but I'm like one time now I won't even get into that but
what so that girl that I was well it's just like it's something that if I can't really
prove it you know I don't know what happened like one of these one of these nights okay so
out back behind the house I had this like shed and you know it had paneling insulation
electricity, and that's where I made all my music.
You know, so I'd be able to go out there, escape.
Everyone just go make music in my free time.
And it was my spot.
Anyways, later on in life or whatever, like, I think it was wintertime, actually.
In the wintertime, I didn't spend too much time out there.
It's too cold.
And I'd put a heater out there sometimes, but this night, I definitely didn't,
out there. But I had a buddy over and my stepdad. His name is, well, I'll say my stepdad. Either way. So he would go out to
the shed sometimes and read. Like that, that's a good place to go, get away from all the noise and
everything. So he'd go out there and read. Either way. So anyways, I'm looking for my stepdad. Have you seen,
do you know where he went? Do you know where he went? No one knows where he went. So I'm like,
oh, you must be out in the shed.
So I go out there, the door's locked.
So I'm shaking the handle.
I'm like, hey, hey, what are you doing?
Da-da-da-da.
You know, I need your help with this.
And I hear what I think is him rustling around in there, you know, like stuff moving,
but he's not saying anything, okay?
You know, like I guess I'm going to go get the key and unlock it.
So I went back inside.
I had my key.
Come back outside, went to go unlock it, and the door's wide open now.
no one's in there lights are off i'm like what you know like what's going on so i go back inside to put my key
away and in what used to be my room that was all i go knock on that door and out comes my stepdad
he's like hey what's going on i was like were you just out there in the shed he's like uh no
i've been in here i was taking a nap you know or whatever so i'm like what is
going on. So like that, like there's no way to prove. I didn't, you know, I didn't see anything.
I don't know what it was. Yeah. The door was locked. I heard something in there rustling around.
No one responded to me, though. The door was locked. Like I said, I go back out there to unlock the door. The door is wide open.
That, that trip me out, but I don't know what that was. So anyways, that, that's kind of what
happen at that house. Now it's
the girl I'm still
dating. She
was two grades below me
and she's graduating high
school and
she's about to go to college.
I'm about to go to college. We decide
for some reason to move from Michigan
to North Carolina.
Sound like a cool adventure.
We packed up, moved to Raleigh
school.
North side of Raleigh, she went to
NC State.
And we're living in this apartment down there.
And my dog came with me too, juice.
So we're down there or whatever, living in this little apartment.
And this place, I've seen a lot of things happen in this apartment.
But like so much stuff that I can't remember all of it.
So I only like kept up with the stuff that I really remember.
Anyways, so we have this little one-bedroom apartment and,
it'd be kind of the same thing.
You know, I'd be sleeping.
And, you know, just like I did back at the home in Michigan,
Zoltan awake and feeling like something was there.
Like something is in my room or, and my eyes were like locked on the doorway into the room.
And I see like a head like creeping past the door jam, but like only the head.
You know, and it was real fast.
Like it would like peek in, go back and hide.
Peek in, go back and hide.
But I couldn't see the whole face.
I could tell it was a guy, but he would, like I said, peek in, hide.
Peek in and hide.
So after I've seen it a few times, you know, I freak out.
You know, I jump up, you know, turn a light on.
I'm like, oh my God, someone's in here.
Of course, there's nobody in the apartment.
So at this point, like, this is the same guy.
girl that I was dating when
whatever it was
decided to throw them
CDs all over the place.
I mean, she seen that happen.
But she's starting to be like, oh,
I think you're just seeing stuff. You know, you're just
seeing stuff. I'm like, no, I swear to God.
There was somebody last night
peeking his head in, past the
door jam, looking at us,
then hiding. Looking at us
and hiding. When I turn the light on, it was gone.
I don't know. She's probably thinking
I'm crazy or whatever, because
the way I wake up like that, I jump up in the bed, you know, yelling, flipping the light on.
She thinks I'm nuts.
Anyways, so that happens in this apartment, so I'm like, wow, this is weird, you know?
Like, I just seen all this stuff back at, back in Michigan.
Now I just seen something here in this apartment.
And this apartment was, you know, not in the best neighborhood either, so it kind of
rip me out. Anyways, that's something small than a little bit later on, you know, maybe a couple
weeks or something. The same thing happens. But when I wake up, my eyes are focused in the
doorway and there's this woman standing there. But she's like, she's like whiteish,
clearest.
You know, like I said, so I felt like she was a good spirit, but she was like whiteish,
clearish, and she had like this, uh, this short, white curly hair and glasses.
Like, she looked older.
Maybe like, it looked like she was in her 60s or 70s, but white curly hair had glasses
on and she had, uh, I can't tell if it was like, it wasn't like a dress, but
sounds weird but you know how like if you work in a restaurant or something they wear like those aprons
yeah so she was wearing like this white apron thing and she's standing in the doorway now she's
not peeking around she's just standing there so i wake up and i see this woman and once again
like when when you first wake up and you see this stuff like if you can see the features of them
your first instinct is there's somebody in my house.
There's somebody here.
So, of course, I think that there's somebody in my apartment.
I'm like, oh, my God, jump up, flip the light on.
I'm going to catch this lady or whatever, but no, there's no one there.
Once again, I tell my girl, I'm like, she's like, what are you doing?
What happened?
What happened?
I tell her, like, there's this woman here.
There's this lady.
She was standing right here.
I told her everything like how she looked.
She was whiteish, queer.
it's almost like
her image was in gray scale
you know like it didn't have any colors
okay
but it was it was like like I said whiteish
you know it wasn't dark it's not like
she had this dark aura about her
so I feel like maybe I don't know
she was like to there not even
trapped in the apartment or anything like that
she's just trapped
in her own plane of existence
or whatever and she hasn't moved
done. And I don't know why she was in our apartment. Like I said, I never seen her again in that
apartment. I've seen other things, but not her. But I feel, like I said, I feel like she was
a good entity, but I caught her. You know, like she, maybe, maybe they want to, like, look at the
living or they're jealous of the living or something like that, but she was just watching us,
you know, sleep or whatever. And then I caught her.
then she disappeared.
And I don't know.
I don't know what's going on.
Either way, at that point, like I said, my girl, she probably thinks I'm nuts.
You know, I'm telling her like, dude, I'm afraid to sleep.
I'm afraid to go to sleep.
I know I'm going to see some more stuff.
You know, and she's like, oh, I think you're just, like your mind's playing tricks on you
or whatever, you know, all that kind of stuff.
But no, I believed in it.
Like, I really believed it.
I was like, no, these, like, I'm able to see these.
ghosts and I asked other people like in the apartments next to me because I was I was
friends with everyone but I'd be like have you ever seen anything in these
apartments you know and they well what do you mean have you ever seen like like a
ghost you know and they're no I never see nothing never felt nothing like
that so I'm always wondering like why why was I see in all this either way this
this is uh this goes on to one of this is probably the second
the scariest thing that happened.
Other than that one man that was in all black,
this is probably the second scariest thing is,
let's see, well, I'll say this first.
My dog juice, this is why it's important.
So we go home for Christmas,
and she goes, sees her family,
you know, I'm hanging out with my family,
and my dog, she's back in her normal house or whatever,
she's a good dog.
And so I was like, hey, can you guys watch
my dog, I'm going to go see my buddy. So I drove into town, went and was hanging out with my buddy.
And my mom's calling. She's like, hey, texting me, hey, call me by it. Please call me back.
So I call her back. I'm like, what's going on? She's like, somebody shot juice. I was like,
oh, my God, what do you mean? Is she okay? She's like, yeah, she's okay. She's limping around,
but somebody shot her in the legs. She has a bullet hole. So I'm like, oh, my God, tripping out.
and I drive back home, sure enough, she's got this hole in her leg, and she's whining,
she can't walk, she's bleeding everywhere.
And, like, this is my baby, for real, like my dog.
And I've had her since I was, like, 16.
By now I'm like 20-something, maybe 21, 22, either way.
So I'm like, oh, we got to take her to the vet, take her to the vet.
So anyways, drive up, take her to the vet, and the vet is talking about where her
her bullet hole is, there's not much we can do about it.
We can't really, they literally told me that they could not stitch it up because it's in such
an awkward spot on her leg.
Really?
They can't stitch it up.
Yeah.
So they gave me some diapers to put on my dog to catch the blood.
I'm like, oh my God, this is crazy, you know?
So I knew I was like, I don't think she's going to make it through this or whatever.
so we go back home and I stayed up all night with her and she's crying you know huffing trying to
breathe and uh I wake up in the morning sure enough she didn't make it it was the saddest thing
in the world boy but anyways I buried juice out in the backyard at that house and Michigan
all over Christmas break this happened so now Christmas is over we're driving back to North
Carolina and a juice ain't coming with us. It was sad. Either way. So we get back to North Carolina
and a few months or whatever. And I think we decided like, you know what, like this whole living
eight, ten hours away kind of suck. We both talked about it. We both wanted to move back to
Michigan. So she wanted to transfer from NC State to Michigan State. I was going to transfer to
a school in Detroit.
So that's cool.
Either way.
Before we left, though,
one more incident happened.
And this one, I don't know.
It's hard to explain
like what I saw.
But I told you,
whenever I see these things
and I wake up,
it's not like I just,
oh, Mosey awake.
No, I'm alert.
100% alert.
Sleeping one night and,
boom,
I wake up.
And standing over my
girlfriend now, not over me.
Standing over my girlfriend
is this, what I think is a
demon. It was
it didn't have a black
blackness about it, a whiteness
about it, nothing. It was in color.
And it was
it reminded me of
Ghalm from the Lord of the Rings.
Like Ghalem, but
the knees went backwards.
Like instead of, you know,
how human knees are, the knees
were backwards. And it was like,
I guess not standing crouching over her, you know, and its face was so close to her face.
And I don't know.
It had, it looked like I said, it looked like Ghalm.
It had no hair, though.
Had no clothes on.
It was skin, like old grayish skin.
The knees went backwards and it was just staring at her.
So, oh, I freaked out that time, for real.
jumped up, flipped the light on.
Of course, it's not there.
And she's, oh, what's going on?
What's going on?
I told her, like, I've seen something standing over you.
Like, it wasn't a person, though.
It was like a thing.
You know, it was like, I didn't know how to explain it.
You know, I still, I can't even, like, what's in my head.
I don't even know how to explain what I've seen, like in words.
It was just not human, but kind of looked like it had human skin and a human face,
but just like all twisted and like the arms were real long.
I think if this thing was all the way standing up,
it might be like all the way standing up might be three and a half,
maybe four feet tops tall.
Like it was small and it was like I said crouched over
and the knees, like I said, went backwards.
I don't understand.
Yeah, that's interesting.
But I mean, do you think that was a physical creature?
Do you think that was a more,
ghostly demonic thing.
I don't think it was physical at all.
I think, oh, yeah, if it was physical, I think she would have, you know,
because I didn't feel like the weight of it standing on the bed or anything like that.
So I think it was more of like a demonic thing.
And like I said, it was standing over her, which kind of tripped me out because, like,
like I believe in
I believe in the Bible
believe in God you know
been saved and baptized when I was young
I mean I won't say I'm a frequent churchgoer
I won't say that at all but this girl she was
in like complete atheist
you know and was I don't know
kind of had some weird friends like
almost like witchy friends you know
thought they were like I don't know
but she was like kind of that kind of crowd
and I always thought it was weird
that it was standing over her, not me, because I'm the one who sees all this stuff.
You know, I've seen all these different ghosts and entities or whatever they are.
I wake up and I see this and it's standing over her.
So that, I don't know, made me think like maybe it's something that had to do with her, you know?
I'll find out later on in life, though.
I don't think it was.
I think it had to do more with just me being aware.
either way
that's what I think was a demon
I think it was like a
evil demon thing
the first one I seen that was clear
my idea was like
I think that might have been an angel
the other ones
the lady and that man
and all black standing over me
I think that was a ghost
and I think this thing was a demon
anything about any of that
but
all I know is I wasn't trying to
be a part of it, you know.
Anyways, so we're in North Carolina at that time.
We're getting ready to move back, pack up all of our stuff or whatever.
We moved back.
Well, I'll say I drove all the stuff back in this U-Haul, and as soon as we got back,
like, me and her, like, literally just split up.
Like, things were not working, you know, we just split up.
Anyways, I moved back.
Like I said, I enroll in this other college, and I'm staying.
at my mom's house again, that same house.
And I'm back in that room in the basement.
I was sleeping one night, and I jolt awake.
There's nothing there, though.
But it's what trips me out is the sound.
All I could hear was a dog panting.
You know, like panting like it's hot, like it needs some water.
And it was right over right next to me where
juice slept every day.
So I'm pretty positive
that that was juice.
That's why I was mentioning juice earlier
is because I'm pretty positive
like she came back or
is there or something like that.
But I could hear her panty.
You know, she was laying there.
I could feel her like moving,
you know, trying to catch her breath.
So I hear juice and I'm like,
oh my God, like
telling everyone like I swear God,
I heard juice last night.
She was in my room and she was panting like she needed some water or something like that.
And other people have told me like, oh, I think it was juice.
You know, I've had my dog that passed, you know, I've heard my dog or I've seen my dog, stuff like that.
So that was back in that same house.
And juice, we don't live in that house anymore, but she's buried there.
So I think it makes sense that that was her.
Anyways, so that happens.
Eventually, I decide to move to Denver.
So my little brother is moving to.
My cousin owns a company out there where it's going to go work for her.
So me and my little brother pack up, moved to Denver.
I lived in Denver for a year and found out it's crazy, expensive.
I remember paying $1,400 in rent for like 600 square foot one-bedroom apartment.
Like, that's crazy.
I lived out there a year.
Not one thing happened.
You know, I met this girl out there, and we moved in together into that apartment or whatever,
and not one thing happened.
I thought that was kind of strange, you know, like, how have I not seen anything?
Nope, nothing.
and eventually it's too expensive out in Denver
and the girl is from Florida
so I was like okay well
this is too expensive
we should probably just
do something different so
we decide to move to Michigan
which was stupid because it's cold here
anyways so we moved back
back to Michigan now and she comes with me
she's never been to Michigan
she finds out yeah it's cold
and were there literally.
I think I was here for about a week.
I went and got my old job back, started work,
maybe a week of us being here,
and it being,
because we moved here in January,
or right around Christmas,
so yeah, it's freezing.
And after about a week,
I'm like,
we should just move to Florida.
You know, that sounds nice there.
And she's like,
oh, if that's what you want to do,
I was like, if you want to,
I mean,
that's your family down there,
if you want to go down there,
I'd be down because I can see myself sitting on the beach, all that.
So Michigan, now a couple months, and we're in a completely different house because my mom moved, got a new house.
Now she lives across the street from my grandma's house, which is a, it's got a weird story about my grandma's house anyways.
I don't know if I believe it, but my grandpa back in the day told me that it used to be a funeral home.
and it's a real old house
it's kind of creep you out
but anyways we live across the street from her
and you know
didn't see anything the couple months I was in Michigan
eventually
we moved to Florida
we got a little small house down there
but what's weird is
now I think that
like my work schedule
made me not be able to see a lot
of things so
yeah I was living in Florida
but Monday through Saturday
day, sometimes Sunday,
we drove, our company
that I worked for drove two hours,
two and a half hours north to Georgia
and I worked in Georgia
all week long, stayed in a hotel.
So that sucked.
But I mean, in a hotel, like,
what can happen?
Nothing.
Didn't see anything.
Eventually, things didn't work out in Florida
as they seem to go.
But I was like, all right,
I'm moving.
back to Michigan, you know, so move back to Michigan. Now I'm living in this house across from my
grandma's, right? And got this room downstairs. And this is, I'll say, I guess, one of the last
things that happened and still probably the strangest was, okay, so I'm asleep in this room
downstairs. There's an upper level too where everyone else sleeps, but I'm asleep. I wake up,
jolt awake again
and there's this light
floating above me
like kind of like where
your heart is
but like
a foot and a half above me
and it's such a bright light
like
it illuminates my whole room
it's a bluish
whitish light
the whole room is lit up
and so like
I think the light
is what made me wake up
because it was so bright in there
you know so I see this light
kind of like, I don't know, maybe golf ball size, maybe tennis ball size just floating there.
And so I try to reach out and grab it, and it shoots up, straight up through the ceiling, and it's gone.
And my room's dark again.
And that's probably the strangest thing that happened.
Because now I'm thinking, okay, was that an angel?
if that was an angel
what was
that first entity
I've seen then
that was clear
because I felt like
that was an angel
so if that's an angel
then what is this a light
I just seen
and what really makes it strange
is my youngest brother
he lives in this house too
and he told me
that he's seen a light too
like an orb
and I asked him like
what color is the light
you know just joking around
I was like
what was it green?
He said, no, it's bluish, whitish light.
He said it literally was there.
It lit up his whole room and then boom, it was just gone.
So I think that I'm in tune with this stuff.
Like, I can see it because I think I'm eager to see it.
I mean, I don't know.
If something wanted to pop up, yeah, it scares me, but I'm still like,
I want to, I don't know, kind of interested in it.
I want to know what's going on.
So if a ghost came in my room tonight, I'd be like, whoa, that's crazy.
I'm not going to hope it doesn't happen again.
No, I hope I see another one.
It's kind of cool.
But I think it's weird that my littlest brother, he sees stuff too.
Like in his room upstairs, he's talking about he hears this laughing coming from his closet,
which that trips me out already.
He says it sounds like a little kid laughing in his closet.
So I haven't heard no laughing, none of that.
All I've seen is that light.
And other weird things, you know, like that don't even make sense.
Not long ago, maybe a month or two, maybe three months ago, woke up and I've seen this huge spider on the ceiling.
I'm talking about like two feet, two and a half feet.
It was a huge spider.
just crawling on my ceiling.
So, yeah, that I don't want to see.
I'm good on that.
I can see a ghost, but I'm not trying to see like a spider like that because I thought it was real.
Yeah.
But other than that, other than that, Tony, that's kind of the stories that I have that I've seen.
And since that light, I haven't really seen anything.
Yeah, well, I mean...
It's been kind of calm.
Yeah, you've seen a lot of different stuff, man.
And it seems like it's just really stemmed throughout your entire.
life. Do you think that you're just somebody that happens to have an ability to see this stuff,
or do you think that this stuff is like intentionally targeting you and showing themselves to you?
That's a weird question because, I mean, part of me feels like certain things were targeted,
certain things. Other things I don't think were. So I think that that light was targeted, you know?
Like, it was floating right above me.
I think that targeted me, and I think that the demonic thing that was standing over my girlfriend, I think that was targeting her.
Other than that, everything else, I think it was just there, and I was able to see it.
And I think that if they realize that I can see it, like they're like, oh, crap, and they disappear, you know?
Like they're not supposed to be seen or they don't want to be seen or something like that.
But I don't think that any of the other ones were targeted.
I think they're just there.
I think everywhere, you know, in everyone's house.
Could be in your house one day.
It could be three streets over the next day.
I think they just travel.
I don't know.
I don't think there's no specific person that they're trying to go after.
I think they're just trapped.
You know, maybe they just come into my house this night to see, like, what's going on
in this house and then I wake up
I see it and they're like oh how did you see
me and they disappear
so I think it has to do with like
energy you know
everything is
energy like our soul is energy
our spirit or whatever
the way that we think in our brain
it's all brain waves it's all energy
so I think it has to do with that
like their energy is
still here
and
we can't see them
because like, how do I say this?
Like, we have human bodies, you know, like physical bodies.
We have eyeballs to be able to see.
And our eyeballs can only see this spectrum of light and colors.
But we can't see what's beyond that because we're human.
That's like hearing.
You know, Tony, that you can only hear from 20 hertz to 20,000 hertz.
but what else is going on at 40,000 hertz
that we can't necessarily hear
because we have human ears.
So I think it's there,
but since we're human,
we can't really perceive it.
And some people can for some reason.
And I think that the times where I've seen things like that,
it's because, like, my body is kind of shut off at that point,
you know?
And if I'm asleep, my body shut off
and my energy is there's people who say they can astro project and that's an energy of some sort
if they really can.
Who am I to doubt them?
But if they can astro project, then it's got to be energy.
So I think that all of these entities or whatever, it's just energy.
It's all, it's here.
It's all around us.
We can't see them because we're human.
That's how I feel.
Well, you can. I say I can't, but you can.
Well, I think maybe you could. I think people can, but we're just, you know, like if, if I've seen things like this, I'm going to be aware of it.
Like, I don't know how to explain that to you. Like, I'm aware. Like, I know that I might see this or I might pay more attention to that. And if you've never seen anything, then you don't know kind of like what to look for or what to pay attention to. Maybe.
things have been right in front of your face, but you don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I think that's a common thing that things are right in front of people who they just don't know it.
Did you ever think about next time you see something like this not reacting to it and just observing it from trying to be discreetly observing it to see if it actually goes away or not?
I mean, the first time that I've seen something, I was so terrified.
That's all I did was observed.
I didn't, I wouldn't move.
I was so scared that I couldn't move anything.
I just watched it.
The light that I seen, I wasn't really scared.
You know, it was floating above me.
I wasn't really scared.
I was more interested, like, what is this?
So I reached out for it.
So, yeah, if I see something else, I mean, it depends.
You know, I just, like I said, I feel like I seen a spider not long ago, and that,
no I'm I ran out of the room I'm not observing that but if I see something else yeah if I see
another entity I don't know me personally I think it'd be interesting to try to have a conversation
I don't know how well it would work but well I mean you seem like the kind of guy that's
going to experiment if you can so if you ever do have the chance to do something like that
I would like to hear if you were successful.
Yeah.
Like I said, if I see something, my first instinct, I might be kind of freaked out, but
I could try, you know, but I think it's all kind of like luck.
I can't go try to see something tonight.
It just kind of happens, you know?
Yeah.
I mean, you're not the spirit summoner.
You're just the spirit observer.
So.
Yeah.
That's cool, man.
that's cool so yeah like I said if something were to happen again tonight like I would probably like
welcome it you know like that's okay I know it's not gonna be so I mean nothing has hurt me so I mean
I would welcome it in a way just to kind of like try to understand it more ever see anything again
it's I don't know it's been months and months now yeah well uh the fact that you've seen so much
throughout your life, then I would say that there's at least a good opportunity.
You have a better chance than a lot of people to see something again.
I would say that.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Yeah, I think also, though, I mean, right now I've got a real bad chance because I work night shift.
So I don't know, I don't, the only time I could possibly be asleep during those hours
as on the weekend.
So it's, I don't know.
I think it'd be tough to see something nowadays.
And then also, I think, when I think about some of the stuff,
like a lot of the things that I've seen were like in bad times in my life.
When I was younger and I first seen the first thing,
you know, it's kind of a rough time in my life.
Everything else that I've seen is always in a bad time in my life,
like things were going rough.
So I think if things are going good, you know, and I'm mentally okay, like, I think I have a less of a chance of seeing something.
But I guess things were going okay when I seen that late.
I won't say they were going great, but they were going okay.
But I remember one of your episodes on here, I heard somebody say that, and it kind of clicked for me, you know, like, when I seen this, it was a bad time in my life.
So maybe it's like a like I said, an energy thing.
Like you have a bad energy right now.
So you're attracting this sort of energy.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that's definitely something that is I would think a possibility.
And not, I don't think it's, it's so simple.
Like you kind of, what you just said seems really simple.
But I think that things that are going on in your life, depending on what you have going on, do attract or even sometimes
invite activity into your life.
And so I would say that I would agree with you on that statement.
But I'll tell you what, Wes, I appreciate you sharing your stories, man.
It's been a good time.
Yes, sir. Thank you, Tony.
It's been awesome, man.
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