The Confessionals - 280: The Pale Creature of the Woods

Episode Date: October 27, 2020

In Episode 280: The Pale Creature of the Woods, we are joined by Reese. He and I recorded this interview a long time ago, but waited to release it because Reese was concerned that some of the activity he describes would escalate if he talked with me about it. After we recorded, his fears came true. We paused the release of the interview until now, and the story you will hear is the original conversation that stirred unwanted things up again, as Reese tells us about his hatman haunting and the tall, pale-skinned, malnourished humanoid creature of the woods that made its way into his house! BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: https://simplisafe.com/confessionals Get Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: https://bit.ly/2FbOhN5 Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Show Art: Alika Spahn Naihe (www.hauoliart.com)

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappeared. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face, they basically decapitated.

Something pulling at my leg. And I look over, and there are two small gray entities cooling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air. Couldn't breathe. and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Yep. Welcome to the show, everybody.

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we're living in right now. It's never a bad idea to be prepared. And I can't think of another time in modern human history where it's actually acceptable to be a prepper. So go to prepare with the confessionals.com and get your emergency supplies today. Now, today we have Reese coming on the show. And this is an interview that we did a long time ago. And Reese had hesitations to come on the show and share his story. And when we talked about it and did the interview, shortly after that, he emailed me asking never to air that interview because after we talked, his fears came true where activity kicked up. And now here we are a year or so later and he's finally ready to release this interview to the world. And that's what you're going to hear today. Reese had experiences

with the hat man in his house growing up, but also some kind of creatures in the woods. He never really saw them at first, but he knew they were there. And then over time, they made it closer and closer to the property line and eventually into his house. And he described them as tall, pale-skinned, malnourished-looking humanoid things that came in the house. So let's get to Reese right now. All right. Today we got Reese on the show. Reese, how are you doing? I'm pretty good. Good, man. So you're in Canada, right? Yeah, Alberta. Okay. And these experiences you've had also happened in Canada, right? Yeah. I grew up in my home. hometown and everything happened in my own town. Okay, gotcha. I just wanted to clarify that because I know

in the email when we were talking, it said that at one point during one of the stories that you were in Europe. I just wanted to make sure that you weren't in Europe when these things happened. So we have the geographical location narrowed down. So, Reese, you have two experiences or at least subject matters that you want to cover. Let's start off with the Hatman. And then we're going to get into the goblins. And I'm really excited to talk to you about these goblins. And we'll get into Y and stuff here a little bit later. But you have had some hatman type experiences in a house that you were growing up in. So if you could, just walk us into the experience. You know, what happened? Were you living this house your entire life? Were you just moving in? Did anybody else see it? So just walk us into your experience, man. Well, my family moved into this house when I was about, I don't remember a whole lot of my life before that. That was just really small, but I do remember that my parents lived in two separate houses.

And when I was about four, my parents moved in together. And I got to view a couple of the houses with my mom in that one time. And it was always weird because I had these strange dreams about the houses right after I got to see them. one of them I was sleeping in the room and we had a bunk bed me and my sister and a fly the size of a dog came up between the wall and the bed and I ran out of the room in fear to only find that there's a

my dad lives in a drawer and my mom was a rafter and they were always this strange dreams but when we were going to live in the house that we did I had a dream about it before I even got to see it and it was a pretty terrifying dream. I can remember it pretty vividly. It was burned into my head pretty well. I had this dream for maybe four years or more just living in this house,

and it was almost every night. So I got maybe pretty hard to kind of think back to it. I don't enjoy it because it's not something I want to remember, but I was a little kid and it was in the house I lived in for 10 years and it's a house where I saw the hat man and I was in my room

and something wasn't right normally my mom would come in and wake me up in the mornings but it was just creepily quiet in the house there was a bedroom across the hall from mine that was my sisters I stepped out of my room her room was empty

and the hallway was quiet and there was this weird, creepy, red mist filling the air. I walked down the hall towards our living room in the kitchen, and there's nobody there. All the lights are off, curtains are shut, and I go to walk downstairs to where my parents' bedroom is, and nobody there. I'm going to check the TV area in the basement.

I went into the laundry room, which I don't know, I just decided to go in there and I got into that laundry room and I saw that there was this corner by the laundry machines and it was mixed kind of in with some body parts

and that and upside down laundry hamper. I can't remember what was on top of it now. It's just a blur but underneath and when I ran out of that room terrified I ran straight upstairs and in the living room shadowy figure with this

creepy smile on its face. It was a probably a nightly thing for a few years and I always thought it was just a terrible nightmare. Years later, I was probably 17, 16-ish when I was talking to my sister about it in high school and I told her I used to get these terrible nightmares and everything in the air was red and she said that she had this dream once like that and she told me about it and it was almost identical to what I had dreamed, but except her and I swapped places.

I had that dream before I moved in years after, and then years after I did move in, but then once after I did get there and that very weird things started to happen. I confirmed things too after we moved out of that house, but she hasn't liked to talk about it too much. I guess she's not willing to kind of, I guess her and I, we feel the same in the sense that if we kind of talk about it, it kind of, I don't know, like it has a chance of kind of coming back into our lives. This is a lot harder to talk about than I thought. Take your time, man. I understand. I mean, these experiences that you guys were having, did they manifest in your consciousness,

like, in reality, or were these, like, synchronistic dreams that you guys were having together? My sister said that she only had the dream once, whereas I had the dream for years. And I always thought then maybe that was a bit odd, but I don't know, I've always had a problem with nightmares growing up as a kid, especially after I lived in this house. And when I moved out, I had no issue with nightmares. Like I said, my sister lived across the, her room was just across the hall from mine in the upstairs area. I was extremely uncomfortable with the basement. Aided being down there, whether anyone else was home or not. I mean, my parents could be in the basement.

Everybody could be in the basement and I would rather be upstairs. And I would always have this feeling of just almost just like of darkness. Like if I went in the room, it was just a creepy, eerie feeling. And it was the whole basement, but it was always worse in that laundry room. I remember lots as a kid that there would be times I was downstairs watching TV or playing on our game console, I think was a PlayStation at the time. And I would just get this feeling that there's something standing at the end of the hall in the bathroom that leads to the laundry room. I'd look over and there's this figure, I don't know, maybe seven feet tall, like he takes up the entire doorway. and he's got this hat on, right?

Like almost like an old detective style, like L.A. Noir, the game. I'm not sure if anyone's going to get that reference or not, but it's like an old style of detective. He's got that long coat and that fedora style. And anytime you would look at him, he'd kind of step out of the door frame, but into the room where he was.

And he was always, he was. He was always in the door frames at the corners. Yeah, he's in the door frames. He's in the corner of the rooms. And I always thought, well, maybe I'm just, you know, seeing something out of the corner of my eye. But I could look straight at it and it wouldn't change. It wouldn't move.

And the only time that it would move, it'd be when I got up and I would move for six, maybe seven, my PlayStation. And I saw him standing in that doorway to the, the bathroom into the laundry room and I got up just to go see what it was. I was tired of seeing it so many times and I wanted to know. And I got up and I went into the bathroom. I followed him because he walked into the room.

So I walked into the bathroom and there was nothing there. So I turned right into the laundry room. I saw him standing just around the corner where we have the bar to hang up the shirt and that. So I walk all the way in and I turn around and I see nothing. I look around the corner, I check around the clothes and there's nothing there and

I turn around to leave the room. I get this feeling like I don't have a feeling of dread or anything in the laundry room but the moment I turn around to leave I have to go through the bathroom and I just get the feeling that I don't want to go into the bathroom.

And so I do what I had to do a kid and I just ran right through and straight up to my room. It was like that all the time in the basement. I would see it standing by the freezer under the stairs in my dad's computer corner if the light was off. It never would stand in the light. It would stand in the pitch black room, but you could still see it.

Like, it would be completely black and you couldn't see any details on it, but you could still make out figures and shapes and the fact that it had a face, but I couldn't see the face. hear things in the house that would happen. Two, things would really get weird. A lot of the times when me and my sister would be left alone, we would hear people walking around in different parts of the house, and there would be nothing there. If you were in the basement, there was somebody clearly walking through the hall

and into the kitchen. It was only a two-story house. You had the upstairs and the downstairs, so you could hear where people were, whichever room they were, when they were coming down the stairs. Very creepy growing up as a kid. nothing really happened happened but it was always for me there was always that the red misty air and the thing in the basement that I guess kind of tore my family apart and a creepy smile we did eventually

move out of that house though to tell about that because I was a house we were there for 10 years but I was there for a lot of it I didn't want to remember but when we moved out we actually moved into a place that my mom inherited from her sister. It's a nice acreage property. It's been in the family for years and it's a very old house, but it's a very nice property, looks over a forest and backs into the woods of fairways. I got the chance to grow up on this property quite a bit. My aunt was kind of like a second mom to my sister and I. We would always, like every Friday, she would come by, pick us up from school or from home if there wasn't school,

and we would go out and do things. Oftentimes, he would go swimming or out for lunch or dinner, just out and about and have a good time. And I always love to go out to her house, the acreage here, and you'd just play out in the yard or in her rec room and out in the woods.

With being out in the woods, she had these forest pathways and that you could go walking through and one took you out to this, kind of overlooks spot, looked over the creek, and it was really beautiful there, especially in the fall time. And I would always run down there by myself and through the other trail, which would take you down to the creek. But I never went too far alone, especially down to the creek. So I'd always get this creepy feeling if I went too far.

Like the moment I passed her property line, it was just supposed to be there. But yeah, I never had a problem being out on these was by myself. wild creatures and rabbits live out here, there's coyotes, but I've never had a bad, bad encounter, and it's always been woods lots. But there was these little things that made me uneasy in the woods, but I couldn't tell what they were. As you say, the best way to describe them would be the same way a squirrel would run through the woods. It's loud, it's obvious. you would see where this thing was supposed to be at.

You would see like the leaves and everything being thrown up from it running through the woods, but I couldn't see anything. Like it wasn't visible to me. I don't know really what to describe it as, but I know as a kid I always described that little thing as a goblin because it reminded me of this creature from this movie I watched. It was something you could only say. I remember this movie now.

but only certain people could see this creature and I couldn't see this thing but it wasn't very big like it was very much like a squirrel but there was always

a few of them now maybe at first it started with one or two and they would kind of stomp around in the trees as I was on the trail but when it started to be

like become more frequent it started to get more hyper like everything amped up like if it went from one and two kind of maybe checking me out seeing what I was, it went to like five or six now, making a fuss, really just scaring them now.

Do you want to take care of them or are you good? No, my cousin actually just ran downstairs to check on them. Okay, cool. But even these little things, like I didn't have, never did anything other than pretty much chased me out of the woods in that. But it was that creepy feeling like, if I found, if I finally, I went too far into the woods that started to scare me, especially after I moved into this house. I'm actually on the property right now.

I moved back in after I went to university. The feeling that I had then is gone now except when I'm in the woods. So I don't think whatever it was is gone close. So eventually I moved out of the house. That me and my sister lived with this hat man. I moved into this acreage property that way on a trip in Europe when the move happened. And so I went from living in that house to going on a trip. And it was once that move happened and I was in the house,

I started getting a strange feeling from more than just in the woods. Like it had, don't really know it. Like it just decided that it didn't want to hang out in the woods anymore. The creek wasn't good enough or something. And it came up out of the trees and began, the best way I can describe it was just watch the house. I never really saw those little goblin things again much after that

they were really only around a lot when I was a kid like I said there was the one time I was with my cousin in the woods his kids and I said that they were coming in that but I'm not sure how much he believed it I think it was a game but they terrified the life out of me when I moved into this house and I started getting that creepy feeling from the woods from just being in the yard and in the house. It didn't feel right.

Something felt really wrong. After the first year, maybe, I started to actually see this thing in the trees and then coming just up into the yard. And the best way I could describe what it was was very human-like. It was maybe if it stood up seven, eight feet tall, like it looked really long

because it had no muscle mass, no fat. It was skin and bone, but it crawled on its hands and not quite on its knees. Like it crawled on all fours using its feet. And it would just sit out in the yard by our fire pit just in the tree line and watch the house. And I would see it from our kitchen window, which is a big view window. And then after about a year, it started getting closer. and two years they got closer and it was an uneasy feeling

and I'm not sure if anyone else in the house helped it or saw it and I've never talked to anyone else about this stuff because it's, I've always been told by people it's not real and not to believe in it and I never had an explanation for what I saw so I just let it be

I guess in the way and when I started seeing this thing in the house though it terrified me eventually went from being in the yard and in the tree line to one night I was up maybe about a terrifying scream out in the woods. And I don't know what came over me, but I decided to just go see what that was. It was something I'd never heard before. So I walked, I took my flashlight out, I left my dog, and I just walked into the woods.

By this time, the forest trails that I was so used to growing up as a kid, had been overgrown. unmaintained. So I was just walking through the bush looking for whatever made this noise. I came up to this little clearing and this was in the wintertime so everything was dead but I came up to this little clearing. It was pretty much a perfect circle, maybe 12 feet. The forest fell silent the moment I stepped into it. I didn't know what was going on. Normally there's birds. There's something in the woods. There's deer.

There's moose here, there's bear. There's almost always something wandering on the woods and you can hear it. The forest just felt silent when I stepped in this and after maybe a minute, it was just kind of like feeling weird. I decided to leave and I turned around

to head straight back to the house and something started wrestling in the bush right and behind me where I was just faced. I didn't want to turn around. I didn't want to know what it was, but I froze. I couldn't move. I didn't know what to do. The rustling wasn't there. I was staring there, staring at that spot for,

I don't know how long, like the minute, like I said, but it felt like I was in there for 20 minutes and froze. Like, it was fear, which it was weird because I never had an issue with coming across wildlife before. Like, I've been face-to-face with bears, like with nothing on me. And I've had no issue with just walking out of the woods and having the bear walk the opposite way. but whatever this thing was that I couldn't see just had me petrified. Finally, the spell, I guess, just broke and I darted back to the house,

just didn't care what was in front of me. I just ran through the bush and got up to the house and in the yard. And the moment I got back into the yard, I turned around and looked into the woods. I didn't see anything, but I could feel something looking back. hack at me. So I ran into the house and shut the door, locked the door, and went back upstairs

to where my room was and went to bed. And when I woke up the next morning, there was nothing in the yard, no track. It was almost like it never happened. And there was no noise after that again. But it was after that that I started to see this creature come right up to the house. At the time, we had an old deck that it had no railing and the boards were rotten and you could fall through it, as I have a few times. You could walk up to this deck and it was still fairly quiet even though it was a rotten old deck. So we've had things like there's been moose that have walked onto the deck and other creatures. There's been coyotes and bobcats and walked right up to our patio door without making a noise. And I turned around and

looked outside and there's the same thing. I couldn't see anything, but I could feel whatever it was was looking back at me, but it wasn't in the trees. It was after that, then it got closer like that constantly, right up to the house, and eventually I would be sitting in the house in my room on my computer, and I would see it in the bathroom. Nobody else really seemed to notice it was only ever, or at least not that they've told me, or I have actually never asked them. It's a bit of a weird subject to try and bring it.

up. I know my dad doesn't believe in a lot of this. My mom does, but I don't know how much she would does believe in. My sister, like I said, she kind of refuses to talk about this stuff. So talk about it on special occasions and that and never at her own house. It really feels like talking about

this stuff will almost bring it back into our lives. Especially me living back here on the Acred where a lot of this happened and that thing that I saw, you know, it was here that I saw it all. I'm just getting a little sidetracked. That's right. When I would see it in the house, it would always be following me.

Like, its attention would be on me because I was the one that was always going into the woods. My sister didn't like living up here. My dad didn't really do much to maintain the forest pathways, and that's why I got overgrown. It was always me that, you know, I loved exploring. the woods and being out in the woods. And so it always, that's my guess for why it always seemed to follow me. But I'd be sitting in my room and they would see it down the hall from the bathroom looking at me or peeking up from around the stairs. And if I was walking upstairs, it'd be downstairs looking up. And in the moment I would get upstairs, it would be there. It would be in the bathroom

or in the closet, hallway closet, just sitting, staring at me. It had these huge, huge, sunk in eyes. Like I could tell it had the eyes, like had eyes, but I couldn't really see the eyes. I had never really fixated on the eyes because I was always stuck on the hands. They had these long, long fingers, like maybe, I don't know inches very well, but maybe 10 inches. And like if his body was ghostly white, its nails were like dark red. brown, maybe blackish, but it was always dark wherever I would see it. It would almost like it would fade into the darkness and step out only just so I could see it.

It did this for years until I moved out and I went to university. I moved to the next province over. I moved to D.C. and went to school for a while. and I had no feelings there. There was no seeing anything, no creatures that I could find. When I came home from university and I moved back in, it's almost like into the woods, that it's not coming up. I don't know what it was or what it wanted or what it was doing,

but it always seemed to just watch me. It never came close enough. to even touch me. It came up to my door one day. There was a night I was sitting on my computer. I moved into my sister's old room, so it was around the corner. She had moved out, so I got to move into the bigger room. And I saw it as I went upstairs. It was in the closet, and I ignored it as usual.

I just walked right past it. I went by my computer, and then maybe after about 20 minutes, poke its head around the corner. I just chose to ignore it. It never did anything, so I just, rather than free myself in any way and freak myself out, as I know I probably would, I just chose to watch it when I could, and

it came up, in all fours, it came up and sat at the edge of my door, but it didn't come. It sat there, I don't know how long, until I stood up, and I went to leave my room, and it was just gone. That creature, those little things, There hasn't been a whole lot that's happened in my life, but at the same time, it's been all the way up until I left for university.

It's just like there was something always in my life. People walking around, there'd be things like mirrors wouldn't seem right. I'd look in a mirror and something just didn't feel right. Everything looked right. But there was always that feeling of unease and that feeling that I need to leave this area. And it would be like the moment I stepped outside, I would feel okay. And it would be the same way with the acreage property and the thing in the woods is just the moment I stepped off the property.

I wasn't around, it would be all right. Like I said, nothing was happening after I moved back from university. I felt all right in that. I got a new job as a janitor. It was working evenings into the nights. It was really quiet work. I enjoyed it. and that's actually how I got into listening to

and then to the confessionals. And it was really great listening to that, but it was really creepy a lot of the times. It was listening to the other people's stories about the eyewitnesses and what they had gone through that helped me realize it went through was real and that it did happen. And that's really kind of what pushed me to then email you

and talk to you about, a lot of what had happened to me. I know there's a lot that I missed out on, but I have never told this story before. I never had a chance to refine it. Since I emailed you, I started to actually write everything down that I could remember so that I would have it for myself.

But the moment I actually started doing that, I just, every time I started typing things out, I got this, and I shouldn't be doing that. And a lot of it gets very, very stressful. like, it is difficult to talk to, talk about especially the things like I had written the story down about my dream in great detail. And I have it sitting right here in front of me, but I almost find myself unable to talk about it because to say those details out loud is almost like seen as again.

And I don't know if I'm actually quite ready for that. So your fear is that if you speak it out loud, it, you're going to almost manifest it, speak it into existence. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that'd be the best way of describing it. It's just like I'm inviting it back into my life. I understand where you're coming from. And if I went through some of the things that you went through, I'd be terrified.

You know, I hear a lot of people talk about the ghosts, or not the ghost. Everybody talks about ghosts. The Hatman. And, you know, after hearing so many stories about this Batman, I don't know what it is, but everybody has a little bit of a different twist to it. And some stories are terrifying and some stories aren't so terrifying, but curious. But what you saw in your house that came from the woods, that is something that would terrify me and on different levels because this isn't just like, oh, there's an entity in my house

that haunts it and it appears sometimes. You're talking about something that you saw in the woods and as time goes on, you would see it working its way to the house and now you're seeing it in the house. Do you think that this thing was a physical creature or do you think this was more of a spiritual entity that you were seeing? I feel it's more spiritual, but it's, but it's, it would always appear physical, but I'd never had an explanation for how it got into the house, and I guess that's one thing that really made me feel

it was more spiritual, is nobody else seemed to notice it, hear it, and it would only for me. I've never actually asked my family about it, but it seemed to, you know, none of them seemed to offer in any way. I don't know, maybe that's why they didn't want to go into the woods, but yeah, none of them never really said anything

or let on that they saw anything. So I always believed that it was Did you ever see this creature When you were around anybody else in the family Or were you always by yourself When you would see it in the house I would be by myself But there could be other people around

Like if I would be in the kitchen And see it outside There might be people upstairs Or my dad in the garage I would only ever see it if I was by myself And the way you described it I mean when you saw it walking from the woods Towards the house

It was on all four but not on its hands and knees, more on, like, its hind legs. First of all, you mentioned it being like seven to eight feet tall. That's incredibly tall, and it's actually taller than I would describe a goblin to be from what people have described goblins to be. Typically, a goblin, I mean, I'm not like a goblin expert or anything, but I have, you know, three feet, four feet. What you're talking about is something far bigger.

and more fun of something different too. Like those little things that I described as a kid being goblins, like I couldn't see them. And they never felt really much bigger than maybe my knee. But like I said, I couldn't see them, but they weren't whatever this thing was that was so tall. Okay, so what you're saying is the goblins that you were describing were the little things that you saw in the woods,

but with this thing that you saw coming out of the woods, the big thing, you're not describing that as a goblin. No, not quite. I don't know what to describe that as because growing up and all the monsters and creatures I heard about, I never heard about this pale, tall, human-looking thing with fingernail daggers. Well, I've heard of this thing. And it's driving me nuts because you're describing something that's very accurately. similar to another story I heard on Sasquatch Chronicles, actually. It was a member show of his.

And if I remember correctly, this lady had this creature coming out of the woods and going into the barn, I think it was, and eating the horse feed or something like that. And she described it very well. And she actually drew a picture. And she put it on, I think Wes put it on the website, but I just cannot remember for life of me what episode this was. But, um, when I looked at the picture of what she drew, it's pretty much what you're describing. She described it as the same height. And when I looked at the picture, it reminded me of the movie's signs when they saw the alien creatures walking through town, these tall, pale, skinny creatures with long fingers.

And I'm wondering if that's something similar. to what you saw. Did you ever see the movie signs? The movie you're talking about, but I haven't actually seen it, no. You're killing, he smalls? I got my computer in front of me so I can actually pull off a picture of that too. Yeah, if you just Google

signs alien, the images should pop up and it's this tall creature that's real thin and you know, they call it an alien. It has that typical alien face, but that's what the lady drew for Wes's show.

And when I told him that, he had never seen signs. And I said, dude, it looks just like the movie signs. And I sent him a picture and he's like, oh, yeah, you're right. So, you know, I'd be interested to see if it's anything similar to what you saw. Definitely similar. Looking at the pictures, I would almost say it was more like it was star. Like it hadn't eaten in, it looked rib cage exposed, like really skinny stomach midsection. But other than that, it was very similar to this.

I didn't focus on the face a whole lot, so I can't say the face is similar. But general kind of look, yeah, I would compare it quite a lot to this. Very long of fingers. So you're seeing this creature, and it's very apparent listening to you, share that it's singling you out. Unless somebody else is experiencing this and they're just not talking about it, it seems like this thing is singling you out. Did you ever get a feeling that this thing was singling you out and also trying to threaten you in any way? So much that it was threatening, but it definitely, I felt like it was singled on me. Like you said, I'd never

noticed anybody talking about it or anything. And going back on to the idea, that if I ever talked about this stuff, that it's like inviting it back into my life, that at the time when this was happening, it felt like a lot that it felt a lot like if I, if I encouraged it, like if I interacted with it and I tried to learn anything about it would be to invite it to kind of start doing more

than just watching from a distance and that maybe it would start getting closer and doing other things and maybe bad stuff might start happening. Nothing never did, but I didn't like the idea of, you know, being the cause of something bad. Yeah, I can understand that, man. I can definitely understand that. So you coming forward and talking about these experiences with me,

are you getting the feeling that you could be attracting something by even talking to me about it right now? So much, because there's a lot of details that I did leave out. I said there's a lot of stuff that I've wanted to talk about. It just seems like I can't. I do feel a little bit of discomfort, but not so much in the sense that it's inviting anything bad to come back or anything like that.

It's almost in a way relieving a little bit that I can finally talk out loud about it, but it's still concerning in a way. Yeah. What kind of things are you not sharing with me right now? I mean, you don't have to go into detail if you don't want to, but like, can you share, like, types, like categories of what you're talking about when you say you leave stuff out? Well, for the, for the dream, for that, a lot of the details, like, in the laundry room and that, they get quite shaky. Like, if I wanted to keep it PG, I'd probably not describe the gruesome scene that was in the, basement, there was, if I try to go into that a little bit more, when I walked into the basement,

I walked down the stairs into the bathroom and into the laundry room because you had to go through the bathroom to get to the laundry room. There was the pile of clothes in the corner right next to the laundry machine in that. And it wasn't just after taking a couple steps into the laundry room past the heater and that you could see, you know, maybe this member, parts of what would have been my parents. Laundry hampers. My sister alive is being held captive by something with its foot on top,

holding her down. The whole laundry room was basically decorated that way in a way. And it's like I watched this every night. I didn't forget. Until one

one day I just eventually stopped. I was able to forget and it was actually listening to your show and listening to one of your episodes on The Hatman, but it made me remember what I saw in the basement and before I emailed you, I actually had the dream. I had it the exact same in the basement of the old house, but my sister was her kid's self and my parents were their younger selves.

I'd run back upstairs and there'd still be that shadow figure now in the living room. but this maniacal smile like he knows he has all the power and that I can't do anything in that you know my word it's literally my worst nightmare is is to not be able to help my family in a bad situation yeah I can understand that man I can understand it's same it seems like a kind of dream that seems very real like when you wake up from that kind of dream you're questioning whether that really happened or not yeah it was uh It's hard to tell the difference in the dream whether it was happening for the first little while, but it got to the point for the years where it was so repetitive,

I would wake up in that dream and I would know that I know have to follow the same course as always. And then it actually did change details a little bit here and there as time went on. When we moved into that house, it was myself and my sister upstairs and the two rooms across from each other. my parents in the basement. But when my sister and I got older, she moved into the basement and my parents took the room across from me. Before that it happened,

there'd be nights in the dream where there'd be subtle differences like that where it wouldn't be my sister's room across from me. It'd be my parents. Or there'd be things out like the kitchen would have breakfast being ready, but nobody around. Some days we'd have

just the light blockers closed on the curtains instead of the full, like the full blackout style. But there was always the same track that I had to follow. I had to wake up and realize that my mom hadn't gotten me up. It was well past what I normally be up at and walk out into the hallway, see nobody hear nothing, nothing but the red mist in the up down to the basement,

see what I see just to run upstairs. and again to see that shadow figure in the corner of the living room. And he was never there before I went downstairs. I looked every time before I went down when I started to realize more that I was on the same track and that I started to notice these differences. But he would never be there until I'd seen what I saw in the basement and I went up back upstairs.

I don't know what it was that I saw that shadow figure was, but I always just associated that to the hat man that I started seeing in the house because I had that before seeing the house and then after being in the house I started seeing him. I was just connected to two, but I don't honestly know what the difference, what if it was something different or not. Yeah, I can understand the thought process that goes behind that, dude. I'll tell you, your experiences are interesting. And, you know, from somebody sitting on the outside looking in and knowing that you,

there are some details you're leaving out, I do wonder if there's something that I'm missing or that you're missing that's tying the two things together or maybe they are two separate things, you know, but it's very interesting that you had. these experiences that scared you so bad with this, you know, these dreams and things like that, but then you start having this creature coming into the house from the woods. I do lean towards it probably being more of an entity, not as much of a monster creature coming out of the woods because of the fact that it's getting in the house without, you know, breaking a door, breaking windows or I'm assuming doors were locked at night kind of thing.

So, and nobody else seeing it. We could have walked in the door as easily as that in the country where we live, it's really safe. And a lot of the times, well, now we lock the doors, but that's because the doors are broken, honestly. And before, we would only lock the doors when we would leave. And my aunt beforehand would almost never lock the doors. Like, it is out where we are a very safe neighborhood

other than the wild critters that are in the woods. So it could have strolled in, but it would have to have done so extremely quietly. Like our patio door is a very old glass door, and it's loud when you open it, and it's loud when you close it. The slower you close it, the louder it squeaks. The faster you close it, the louder it slams. Our front door is probably a foot thick, and it's solid wood. You can't close that quietly at all. Like I said, it's a very old house.

It was the first house in the area. And it shows its age with all the noise. When's the last time that this thing appeared before you? When's the last time you saw something? It would have been a few weeks before I moved away to university. I was getting my stuff packed, cleaning up my room. And that night, I didn't see it in the house. There's eventually had to go downstairs.

I was packing everything up, putting my stuff in the basement. My tote full of belongings that I wasn't taking and packed it down to the basement. And when I had come back up, I saw it standing out in the yard through the kitchen window. Same as far as I would normally see it towards the trees, towards our fire pit, kind of standing on the edge of the trees, not quite in it, but not quite out of the trees. And you're 21 now. I know you didn't say that on the show, but I know you mentioned to me earlier. So this happened, what, three years ago?

Would have been... Okay. So that's the last time you saw. Do you think it's a situation where this thing is a physical creature, it just doesn't know that you're back? I believe that, but if that was the case, it should know I'm back by now. I've done a lot of work in reclaiming those old forest pathways

like I said my property extends into the trees and I'm trying to start almost like a homestead on this property you know my own garden and you know supply a lot of the food and everything that the house needs for for myself

and I've gone into the trees with power tools and hand tools and everything and if that was the case I feel like it should know I've come back now. Okay. Well, uh, in that case, what are your thoughts on why you haven't seen it again? I mean, do you think about that? Do you think what is the difference between now and then? Why have I not seen it? Was this something that was regular enough that you would even question that right now? Back and I noticed that it was peaceful again, that I wasn't seeing it. I did

definitely question that at first. Uh, I wondered, you know, know, why was this thing that was so interested in me before, what I was seen so frequently? Like, it was almost a nightly thing if I had stayed up late enough. I would see it. And, like, why wasn't I seen it anymore? And, like, without any answers, like, I can't go into the woods and track it because it never left me a trail. I can't follow it because I don't know how it got in the house in the first place. Like I said, I would see it in the bathroom downstairs as I was walking upstairs only for it to beat me

upstairs and see it as my head comes above the floor. I always just assumed that maybe it you know because it never like it was there for the longest time the feeling that this gave me

was always in the woods when I was a kid growing up and I figured when I initially started seeing it and it came up out of the woods and into the house that it was interested in me because I was familiar. I was in the woods so much. Then when I stopped seeing it,

I assumed that whatever it was that was down in the creek, that it left the area, there has been some more development in the area, and on the other side of the creek, there's a little neighborhood. It's got quite a few houses over there. I was just assumed that up or down the creek and there else to be.

Well, if it was a picture, paranormal creature and not so much a physical creature, I don't think it would need to find another place to go. I don't know, but it seems to me like this is something that was very paranormal in nature, seemed physical, but also it had paranormal abilities, aspects to its nature. But whatever it was, I really hope you don't see it again because if I was seeing what you were seeing, I'm not so sure I would have been so quiet about it. I think I would have been like, did anybody else see this?

I think I might be going crazy. You know what I mean? I love to have talked about it and known that I wasn't crazy with what I was seeing. But like at that time, I tried opening up to a few people that I thought were my friends at the time. I wouldn't actually mention anything about what I thought I'd been seen, but I'd bring up the idea of different things existing, like Sasquatch or Wolfman, just being two examples and that. And they would always laugh. And so I never really opened up beyond that until I started listening to your show and to Sasquatch Chronicles and realizing that I wasn't so crazy with what I saw. that maybe it really did happen that I wasn't imagining everything.

Yeah, you know, that's one thing I love about this show is that it allows people to realize that they're not the only ones that are experiencing such things. And so I'm really glad the show is able to do that for you. And, you know, like I said, I really hope that this is it for you and that, you know, you're not going to see this entity anymore. But if you do, please contact me, email me, let me know because that's something that I would be very much interested in knowing in real time. Well, I'm still uneasy in the woods, so if it's still around, it's off, but it just doesn't come by or, like, come around anymore.

But if I ever see anything, you'd be the first person to know. Well, I appreciate that, man. And I appreciate you coming on and sharing your story. Yeah, it was an honor for me to get the chance to talk to you and to share the story on your show. And I hope it helps other people the same way that your show and listening to it has helped me. Well, that's a sure, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. That's the best thing you can do to help the show grow. It's just to share it around your friends. I don't care how or where you share it. Just share

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