The Confessionals - 284: Controlled Demolition of the American Empire | Charlie Robinson
Episode Date: November 10, 2020In Episode 284: Controlled Demolition of the American Empire, we bring back Charlie Robinson from Episode 189: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself and Episode 250: Epstein, Maxwell, and Gates! Charlie is the ...author of the book "The Octopus of Global Control," and joins us now to discuss topics from his brand new book, "Controlled Demolition of the American Empire." "Controlled Demolition" has reached the top 55 on Amazon's best-selling books list, and is jam-packed with key information that helps us better understand why the world is the way it is. All the suspicions you may feel inside but may not quite know how to express, Charlie's book offers the words to explain. On Episode 284, Charlie and I cover the CDC; Event 201; safe spaces; Agenda 2030; the education system; a crumbling infrastructure; globalization; China; killing critical thinking; division of the public; false flags; NWO; cryptocurrency; and more!BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: https://simplisafe.com/confessionals Get Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: https://bit.ly/2FbOhN5 Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3
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That's the same.
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coming on the show. Charlie Robinson is an author. He is the author of the Octopus of Global Control and
now also the co-author of the new book, The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. Charlie's going
be coming on the show to talk to us about his book that he just came out with that has now reached
the top 50, that's the top 50 Amazon's best-selling books.
Let's get to Charlie right now.
All right, today we got a great show coming up here.
We have Charlie Robinson.
How you doing, sir?
You're returning to the show.
I'm good.
How are you doing?
Thanks for having me back.
Oh, dude, I'm glad you're here, man.
I think it's so cool how we sparked a relationship up just off of, I think I found you
off of Sean Atwood's YouTube channel and then I contact you to be on the show to talk about
Epstein and then from there just kind of snowballed.
That's right, yeah.
Dude, man, it's great having you.
Well, it's good to be back.
And every time I come on your show, I get, you know, I get emails from people, hey, I heard you on Tony's show.
So you have a very interactive audience, which I appreciate.
Yes, we do. And Charlie, before we get too deep into why you're here today, I want to give you an opportunity to give yourself a shout out as far as, well, you can drop the books and stuff like that, but also your podcast, man.
Podcasts, macroaggressions. I'm enjoying this. We're at like episode 70 now so far this year.
I love putting out the information. I've had such a great response from people. It's very cathartic to me, too. You know, as well, I, to be able to get this stuff off of my chest, you know, early on, you feel like you're kind of talking to yourself like a maniac, you know, you don't know if anybody's listening, but, but I have been so, uh, just grateful of the overwhelming response. A lot of people are connecting with the show and they like it. And so I'm going to keep doing it. We do two episodes a week. One is a monologue. One is a very.
video interview with with somebody else and it's available on apple and Spotify and iHeart
radio, YouTube and also David Ike's video platform called Iconic. So people can,
people can find it. I made it easy to to get out there for people to, uh, to consume it. And,
uh, and I certainly do appreciate the feedback that I get from a lot of the listeners.
It's, uh, it's been, it's been a trip, man, but I really enjoy doing it. Yeah. So I mean,
macroaggressions, it basically is based off of your first book, which is the Octopus of Global
Control. And that book is basically done in monologue form on one of your episodes. And then you have
the interview style on the other, right? Yeah, exactly. I kind of took, I took chapters or topics
from the book and just, you know, dedicated like an episode to one particular topic and just
hammered on that and then moved on to the next. And so, yeah, it's it, I mean, my book covers a wide
variety of topics. I figured the podcast should mirror that as well. So it's, uh, people said,
hey, do you ever do an audio book for the octopus? I'm like, well, you should listen to the podcast.
It's kind of like, it's kind of like the audio book version of that, of that book. But,
um, but, but, you know, similar topics. It's me ranting and raving like a lunatic, which I did in the
book as well. And I read some of the quotes, you know, from the people that, you know, the format of the
octopus book is, is that I had quotes from over 500 different people that were playing a role in some of
the most important aspects of our society, you know, over the last couple hundred years. So I would
take these quotes from those people. And then during the podcast, if I get on a topic about something,
I, you know, I'll refer to some of the quotes from the people that made it into the book. So
I've just had so much fun doing it and we'll see where it goes.
You go back and you watch some of those early Rogan episodes from like years ago and it seems so weird.
So I envision that at some point I'll go back and, you know, and listen to, re-listen to the first batch of episodes and I'll be like, oh, you know, like mortified at me.
But I think that's probably fairly normal for most people that do this.
but it's just been it's been a nice way for people to take a, you know, take an hour out of their day
to get informed on a particular topic and then go out in the world and do their thing and do
whatever else they're doing.
But easy to digest.
And of course, I want to make sure that people have access to me too.
So I always, you know, tell people like, hey, go to the website, the octopus of global control.com.
There's a message function there.
people send me emails, hey, I have a question about this, or you talked about a particular thing
in this episode. Could you elaborate on that? And so I'm pretty easily accessible for people.
And I like it. I like the interaction with the people that are listening. It keeps me going.
Yeah. And so if anybody wants the book right here, The Octopus of Global Control, that's your first book.
And if anybody can see that, I mean, this thing is, it's thick. It's jam packed with information.
And when I opened it up, I was like, small print, too. I know. I know. I mean, if you would have gone big print, it'd probably been a
thousand pages.
So it,
I cut 280 pages out of the book, too, because it would have, it's, it already was 540.
But I mean, uh, the thing was, the thing was massive.
There's a lot to discuss, you know, but I know that nobody wants to go read war in
peace part two, you know, that nobody wants to, uh, to deal with, with having a,
a book that's that big.
I mean, I guess you could use it as a doorstop if you needed to, but, um, but the, but, but, you know,
there's a lot to unpack and I needed the I needed that many pages and there's a lot to unpack
on these podcasts too so it's like a you know it gives me the opportunity if I need to go for an
hour and a half on a particular topic because there's a lot to unpack there then then I have
the flexibility to do it and luckily with the octopus book as well because I self-published that
there was no way a traditional publisher was going to touch that book so I self-published it and that gave me
the flexibility to to control how to publishes that.
much content I put in there and where it all went and how, you know, I didn't have an editor over
my shoulder going, uh-uh, cut that part out. We got to make it 400 pages. We can't have it.
You know, so I was able to go as deep and get as detailed as I needed to get.
Yeah, I didn't realize that that was self-published. That's interesting. And it's probably,
you know, probably for the best because you would have lost a lot of content if you went through
a publisher and stuff. Yeah. But listen, today we're here to talk to you or to talk to the people
about your next book, which is called the controlled demolition of the American Empire. And I find it
very fascinating. And you had a co-author with this. So tell us a little bit about this book,
and we'll get into it then. Yeah. So this book, I wrote with Jeff Berwick, who is the dollar
vigilante. He's also the founder of Anarchapulco, which is the largest anarchist convention in
the world that happens in Acapulco, Mexico. And when you, you know, Jeff's an interesting dude. He's a, he's a
Canadian who started a financial services company in Canada, took it public in the late 90s,
was worth like a hunt.
I think the company is worth $150 million or something on paper.com crash came, wiped that out.
His business partner had a nervous breakdown.
He took off, got bought himself a sailboat and sailed around the world, crashed in Mexico, wound up staying in Mexico, met a nice,
Mexican woman wound up marrying her and he's been there for the last 10 years. He started the
dollar vigilante in 2010 and which focuses on, you know, getting into sort of the detail.
It's a financial services company as well that has newsletters and people can subscribe for free
or people can pay to be a member and get all this information. He has a really smart team of guys
working for him that are all over the world. It's a really well-run. It's a really well-run.
operation. And, you know, he was, he was in Bitcoin at $3. You know, he's just, he's one of these
guys. So when you write a book with a crazy anarchist, he, you know, Canadian, an ex-Canadian
who lives in Mexico, who, when people tell you, oh, you like anarchy so much, why don't you
go to Somalia? So what does he do? He gets on a plane and goes to Somalia. You know, hey, let's do,
oh, you think, you talk about hyperinflation, but you don't know what real hyperinflation is.
If you think that go to Venezuela.
So he goes to Venezuela.
You know, so, oh, you guys are talking about Epstein and everything and getting into that.
Well, so what does he do?
He goes with Luke Radowski.
They charter a boat.
Go to Epstein's, the dock at Epstein's Island, get off with video cameras, and go wander the place for an hour and film everything.
And so, I mean, he's a maniac, but in the best way possible.
So when you write a book with a guy like that, you get a totally different perspective on the world.
And so it all came out of a conversation that Jeff and I had in the summer of 2018 when I was on his podcast called The Anarchast.
And I was promoting the Octopus book and we got done with the interview.
We stopped filming, but we were still chatting on Zoom.
And he made a comment about something like, you know, it's all coming down.
And I was like, well, what do you mean?
He's like, well, like everything, like the empire, the monetary system, all this stuff.
stuff. And I said, well, yeah, of course. It's a house of cards. And we started talking about this.
And then he said, well, we should write something. You know, like maybe we should write a book together.
And I said, okay, let me think about that for a little bit. So he, you know, he's the type of guy who's, you know, he's serious.
He doesn't start something like that unless he intends to finish it. So I went out and I said,
all right, well, I wound up in Costa Rica. And I had some time to myself. And I sat there.
and really started to think about how we would craft this book.
When he talked about it's all coming down, in my mind, that was,
my mind immediately went to the way a building comes down.
And of course, when I'm talking about buildings coming down,
I'm thinking about Building 7 coming down.
Of course, I could be thinking about like a Vegas hotel.
It's intentionally brought down.
And so we start thinking about the way you would take down an actual building.
building, how you would pre-weaken it and you would rig the detonators and you'd sound the alarm,
you'd push the plunger and all these things.
And I started to come up with this concept that we could explain the way the American Empire was coming down in a controlled demolition
and tie that to the way a building would come down in a controlled demolition and make those parallels.
So the main eight chapters of it.
And I kind of borrowed off the format of the octopus, which is I'm talking about.
about eight tentacles of control. And in control demolition, I talk about the eight aspects of that as well.
So we've got a rotting foundation, pre-weakening of the building, identifying the support columns,
rigging the detonators, who wired the building, ringing the alarm bells, pushing down the plunger,
and lastly clearing the debris. And then in each of those chapters, we go into a variety of different
topics for each one of them. So like when you're talking about a rotting foundation, what we're
really talking about are systemic issues, problems that are deep inside the country, things like,
you know, a corrupt medical system and a corrupt media and crumbling infrastructure and things
like a literal rotting foundation. So, and then we move on to pre-weakening of the building. And what
that is, is in a real building, if you're taking it down, before you blow out all the main
support columns, you go through it and you try it and you pre-weaken it. So you take out the smaller
support systems everywhere. Not enough for the building to fall down. The building will still stay up,
but you take out all those safeguards. So these are the things. We're talking about like policies
that hurt, things like globalization and private prisons and the rise of China and things
like that. So like globalization, when we think about NAFTA and these trade agreements that the U.S.
got into. These are like time bombs with a 30-year fuse on them. Initially, they don't seem that
bad when you outsource all of your manufacturing to China, but you just know in the back of your mind
this can't end well. And so we talk about that and we move on to things like identifying the
support columns. These are the things that really need to be destroyed if you want to take this out.
And it's not actual destruction. It's conceptual destruction. So it's things like destroying
critical thinking and just
ruining the education
system, the common
core education system that we
have and starting
indiscriminate wars all over the place.
So we cover a variety of topics.
A lot like the octopus book. I mean, there's
plenty to unpack here.
So we just
sort of, you know,
you take this section, I'll take that section.
We're going to put it all together. And
we really would have had the book out
like around March or April of this year.
But then Corona kicked off and we were like, wait a second.
Hang on.
This is going to be very relevant.
So we stopped and we waited for five months and we watched things play out.
Then we put our thoughts together and then went back in through the book and had to rewrite a lot of it and infuse the Corona component into it.
because it goes throughout, really throughout the whole book.
There's ties from the coronavirus and the panic that it, it, you know, fostered to, you know, it has connections to all sorts of different components, the big pharma, the media, the rise of, you know, over the top government overreach, you know, insane politicians and things like that, compromise doctors.
I mean, we get into all of that.
And I'm glad we waited.
My biggest frustration with the book was that I wanted it to come out sooner.
And now, in retrospect, it came out at the perfect time.
And I'm so glad we put it out.
It came out on Friday.
So we're talking about one of the last couple days of October.
It's already a number one bestseller on Amazon.
We are blown away by that.
it got as high as number 55 on Amazon out of 1.8 million and it's still going up. I mean,
it is it is taking on like a life of its own. We hoped it would. We thought it could. We
wished that it would. But then when it actually happened, we were like, oh my God, this is insane.
You know, it's it just clot passing obam passing Michelle Obama passing Barack Obama's book.
Catching up on 1984 on the rankings. The 1984 is really highly ranked on Amazon right now.
by the way. As it should be. As it should be. Exactly. And Jeff and I are like looking at the
rankings and going, dang, if we could pass 1984, I think we've really done something here. So,
so we'll see how it goes. But more than anything, more than anything, we discounted the price.
I mean, we knocked 40% off of the price of where we're, where we plan to sell it. So it's
$15 for the paperback. It's $6 for the Kindle right now. It won't stay that price for forever.
It needs to go back to where it should be 25 and 10. But
But for now, it's like, what's our priority?
Do we want to make a bunch of money on this?
Or do we want to wake up as many people as possible?
Well, the money's nice, but I'll go for waking people up.
And especially like getting our core audience.
I don't want any sort of, I don't want there to be any barriers.
I don't want people to say, well, I don't really, I don't know.
Do I want to spend 25 bucks?
Make it 15 bucks.
Just buy, you know, get the book.
You won't regret it.
It's filled with information.
If it's something that you feel like, I already know a lot of this stuff, then buy it for somebody else.
Send it to your friend, the person, your family, your mom that you can't get through to, your dad that thinks you're an insane conspiracy theorist.
I mean, Tony, we put 254 footnotes in this book.
I mean, we're not just pulling this stuff out of our ass, and we really sourced it.
I mean, we are talking about things that we can back up and prove, and it paints a picture of where we're headed as a nation.
And it's troubling, of course, because we've got a lot of problems.
But the ending of it, and I'm not spoiling anything, but I will say that the ending of the book, we end on a real positive note because there are, with anything like this, a large, you know, game-changing situations like what we're experiencing now, there will be a lot of people that suffer and have and go through a tremendous amount of pain.
but there will be unbelievable opportunities for some people,
for the people that recognize what's coming,
they position themselves to get out of the way of this tidal wave
that's headed our way, this figurative tidal wave,
and they move themselves to higher ground
and are in a better position to set up shop after this wave comes through
and things change.
It's an interesting time.
I mean, we really are living through, we're living through a fascinating time.
And what we're seeing is the tail end of this American empire.
And it ends like all empires end with a bunch of people, you know, delusional people saying,
how could everything have gone so wrong?
And everybody else on the outside going, of course it went wrong.
The signs were everywhere.
You guys just ignored them.
You pretended like they weren't like you can't believe that anything bad happened.
I can't believe this empire ended. I mean, everything was so great. We were printing trillions of dollars of fiat currency and spreading it all over the place. And, you know, wow, I can't believe everything imploded. Of course it imploded. It has nowhere else to go but to implode. So we paint this grim picture early on, backed up by facts and evidence. And then we transition towards the end into, okay, this is the reality of what's coming.
let's talk about how you can put yourself in a situation where you are not hurt as badly as everybody
else and in fact you have the opportunity to thrive. Yeah, you know, one of the things that I wanted
to ask you was what you just mentioned, that this wave, what is the wave do you think that is
going to ultimately take out, you know, what the goal would be of the American Empire?
We're in a middle of, you know, craziness. Now, as of right now, we're really, we're
recording this on Thursday night, two days after the elections had, you know, started, I guess,
or however you want to describe what we're experiencing right now. But what you said about timing,
I think that you're absolutely right. There is not a better time that you could have dropped this
book as right now because it's anybody, somebody said to me on Twitter today, I said something
on my Twitter page and my personal Twitter page is for me. It's not for the show. So I say whatever
I want to say. And one of the people that followed me said, do you ever get
tired of thinking of conspiracy theories. And I'm like, I'm sitting there thinking, I didn't respond.
It didn't bother me. I'm just sitting there thinking, like, I'm trying to understand the mentality
of somebody who's living on Thursday, November 5th, 2020, and does not see that there is an
issue going on in this country, whether you're for or against Trump, for or against Biden.
It is painstakingly clear to me that it doesn't matter what side you're lining up with,
there are people and organizations on either side that are glaringly obvious trying to stall
whatever they're trying to stall for their own benefit, which, you know, people are talking
about Fox News and how they drop the ball on so many different things and stuff. It really
seems like all roads lead to Rome at this point. Yeah. Yeah. And for the person that is
asking you, do you ever get tired of coming up with conspiracy theories? We're like,
This isn't conspiracy theory.
This is conspiracy analysis.
It's not theoretical anymore.
We have been, we're analyzing actual conspiracies, not making up fake ones.
I don't have to.
I mean, it could.
We can go, I mean, and I love to speculate.
Believe me, I like that concept of like, oh, I wonder if there's like a secret space program.
And, you know, are they going to, you know, they're going to the moon already.
like secretly and everything and TR3Bs and all that.
I love geeking out on that stuff.
That's maybe stuff.
That's wouldn't it be cool if stuff?
That's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about analyzing actual conspiracies.
And really what a conspiracy is is two or more people acting in concert to commit a crime.
Right.
And so I would imagine that that happens 50 times a day in Washington, D.C.
You know what I mean?
I mean, this is where it happens.
And the people that are that would be.
in charge of doing things like this. You're talking about high level government politicians,
high level people inside the military, and, you know, high level people inside the media.
Well, all three of those organizations are magnets for psychopaths. And the higher up you get in those
organizations, the more psychopathic people you will find. So if you're questioning whether or not
these people might be plotting.
I go, I just refer to Catherine Austin Fitz, the former deputy secretary of housing
of HUD.
She talks about, I put the quote in my octopus book, she says, what most people
talk about as conspiracy theory are just usually just very wealthy people making moves
to protect their money.
And there's a lot of that going on right now.
There's a lot of people protecting their power, protecting their influence, their
money, their access to other powerful people. So are we making stuff up? We don't need to. We could
be. I mean, there are people out there making things up. Let me be clear. But we don't need to.
We don't need to go down those paths. If you're talking about analyzing slow vote counting in
this election and when you're seeing charts with vertical lines for the Biden camp that jump up by
100,000. It is not, it doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist to ask the question about that. In fact, if you're not asking the question about it, then you're probably not paying attention to what's actually going on. So there's a lot, there's a lot happening right now. You know, everybody's a conspiracy theorist these days, it seems, after the Epstein situation, right, when he was like, everyone's like, oh, did he kill himself? Did he get smuggled out? Did he, do they, you know, what happened? What happened? Did the guards kill him? You know?
Everybody was speculating.
It's like, okay, well, we'll welcome to our world, right?
This is where we get in.
We can speculate about these things.
There's no harm in doing that.
But then if you're going to write a book about it or a couple of books about it,
I better have my facts straight.
I better have some sort of back, you know, something to back me up on this or else I'll get destroyed.
So when Jeff and I wrote this book, I mean, it was very important for me,
especially when we're talking about crazy things that on the surface sound insane.
You know, I mean, I know that people are going to read that and go, get out of here.
That's fake.
So I have to put the foot.
I have to direct them to the place where they can find it because I want them to go, oh, my God.
Like that story sounds unbelievable.
And then I went and looked it up because you put the footnote there.
I looked at it and I found out it's true.
Okay, if that's true, what else is true?
So this is what you have to do.
When you're writing books like this or you're, you know, you have to have your facts straight because you have to expect that people will be gunning for you.
And when you're somebody like Jeff Berwick who has a really high profile and people are lining up to take shots at him and knock him down, so to speak, well, then you have to be extra careful with what you're talking about and make sure that you're able to prove it and back it up.
or else you give these people ammunition to to tear you down and they will do it. So it's a
crazy time for us to be, you know, to release this book, but I'm glad we did it at the time we did.
It's so relevant. People see the, you know, the cover of it, which is Building 7 wrapped in an
American flag, you know, in the process of coming down. It sort of encapsulates what we're talking
about. It kind of marries a couple of things. I think a lot of people look at that book cover and go,
I know exactly what you're talking about because you're, I recognize that building. That's building seven. We know that there was some nonsense going on with building seven. And I get it. You're talking about America being taken down in the same criminally dirty, you know, not necessarily a clear way that building seven came down. And so there's parallels there as well. Yeah, it's it's like the idea of building seven coming down was not just a obviously we don't believe it was random. But it was.
wasn't just a fly-by-the-seat kind of thing. Like, it was meticulously thought out and planned,
and there was lots of preparation involved. And that's what we're seeing with everything that's
going on in front of us. Now, you mentioned about the coronavirus and how you guys pumped the brakes
when that happened. Now, we see how the coronavirus led to the idea of the mail and ballots and
now what we're dealing with. Back then, when you saw the coronavirus happen, did you think that,
did you have any ideas where this was going as to why you wanted to pump the brake?
in the book, or did you just feel like this is so big that they're bound to use it as something?
Well, that was it. It was the second part was that it was you got the feeling. So we,
it sounded to me a whole lot like terrorism, this invisible enemy that nobody can see,
but it's constantly on the nightly news and everybody has to be afraid of it. And once the
virus situation rolled out and everyone was fearful and the media starts to ramp that up,
And I'm not trying to say there isn't a virus.
I'm just trying to say that I don't think that it's proportionate to the amount of fear that was instilled or the charts that we saw and everything.
But we knew right then this is going to be used every sort of maniacal idea that these people have ever had, these deep state scumbags.
anything that they'd ever fantasized about rolling out onto the American public that they knew would never work, that they knew that America would never accept.
They now went back and revisited those concepts and thought, well, what if we were to do that but under the guise of, you know, protecting you from a virus?
What if we had the, oh, let's, you know, that surveillance program that we always wanted to implement, we could do it now, but we could call it contact tracing, wouldn't that?
And then we could say, we're not following you.
We're following where the virus went.
I mean, yeah, you were in close contact with people that had the virus.
And so we want to know where you went after that because it's about the virus.
It's not about the virus.
It's about you.
It's about following you.
It's about knowing everything there is to know about you.
And of course, when you put people in a state of fear, then you put them into a low
vibrational state where they are making short-term decisions.
Fight or flight, you know, how do I get through this next day?
How do I get through the week?
They're not thinking four years out, 40 years out, anything like they can't.
You know, they're focused on what.
So people make really bad decisions when they're fearful.
That's why the media wants to keep everybody fearful.
So they ramp this up and up and up and up.
and then we thought we knew where it was going.
Then it kind of died down a little bit in the summer.
And I was saying to Jeff, God, you know, I go out and every, I go out here in Denver.
And I don't really see much.
It seems like it's kind of like petered out.
Like there's not, not all that many people, you know, I don't, I don't see it.
It's sort of tailing off.
People are going back about their business.
Stores are opening up, going the grocery store, everything's fine.
oil papers there, you know, all that. And then it changed during the summer. All of a sudden,
mask mandates. And it was like, I said, you know what? This is them making a visual representation
of an invisible virus, an invisible thing that you can't see and can't be afraid of because you
don't see it. Now they've found a way to visualize that in the form of a mask. Now when you go in
the grocery store and everybody's got a mask on, it's impossible for you to think that things are
back to normal because everybody is wearing masks and that of course is not normal. So I was like,
this is very sneaky. They've watched the numbers tail off. They've watched the cases go, you know,
all the deaths go down. And then as soon as they started with the mask, they changed the narrative and
started with cases, not deaths, but cases. And then boom, the cases go up. And it's like, oh,
you know, the cases are exploding. Well, of course they're exploding. Now you're testing more people.
It doesn't mean that necessarily, I mean, I don't care how many cases there are. I care how many
There's deaths there are. My mother-in-law got coronavirus three weeks ago. She was sick for 10 days. She's fine now. She's 75 years old. She's great. She's in great shape. It was not the death sentence that the media made it out to be. It's just another example of the media just lying and lying and lying and making a big deal out of things, a bigger deal out of things than they should be. And I'm not trying to discount. If somebody's died from this,
You know, it's terrible.
But let's be objective about this.
And the numbers of deaths do not match.
It's not the black plague.
It's just not.
And the media wants it to be.
That's the part that made us crazy.
So we took this extra couple months to see how things we're going to play out.
And then we watched the lockdowns go back in and all that.
And we say, okay, we've seen enough.
We can, you know, we can figure out where this is going.
You see Bill Gates talk about, well, wait till the second wave.
That'll get your attention.
It's like, okay, you know something we don't know, clearly.
So we were able to infuse that back in, and I think it makes sense because people can relate to the corona situation because it's so fresh.
You know, they know what they see there.
But what they don't remember where we had to take them back to were the things like, you know, how this corona situation kind of came out of nowhere.
Well, let's talk about event 201 that happened in October.
of 2019. And I think you and I have discussed this before. So we mentioned that. But let's take
it back back even further to dark winter, a term that Joe Biden threw around. You know,
dark winter is is not just a random term that that crazy old man, you know, pulled out of his
ass to use on national TV. It refers to a very specific thing. And what it refers to is a simulation
that the United States government ran in the summer of 2001, that simulated and
attacks on the mainstream media and on Congress by Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
And in this simulation, they sent the virus, the simulation part, they sent the virus to a reporter
named Judith Miller.
And Judith Miller in the simulation opens, you know, the letter and gets this anthrax and,
oh, isn't this crazy?
She works for the mainstream media and isn't it nuts?
fast forward a couple months when the actual anthrax attacks happen and they get sent out Tom
Daschle and all these guys in Congress, guess who gets a letter in real life?
Judith Miller.
What a surprise, right?
What a coincidence that they role-played it with her.
And then she actually got anthrax sent her.
Now, of course, it turned out that it was an anthrax.
It was just a white powder.
But they said it was anthrax and she was safe and fine and everything.
So we go into the history of this stuff. And these are the things that people forget. I mean, this is 20 years ago. So they're not really thinking about other simulations, you know, that happened. I think that it's not even that they're forgetting it, Charlie. I think that they didn't know about it because in that 20 years span, we've had a technology boom where we have access to all this information we never had access to, which is leading to a lot of the civil unrest that we're dealing with. One of the things I say,
said to my wife just today, I said, you know, one thing that's incredible about this whole situation
we find ourselves in is that I don't care if you're on the left, right, or whatever, every single
American person in this country is worried and scared of what is coming with civil unrest.
That's all they can visually identify it as because they've seen it all year, but they see there
is a wave, like you mentioned, coming, and they don't know how to identify it other than civil
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Hey, but I'll tell you what, if 2020 isn't the best advertisement for something like that,
I don't know what is.
I mean, what are you going to do?
Are you going to wait till the last minute to prepare for what's coming,
whether it be home security system or getting yourself food and batteries for what's coming?
I mean, I'd rather be, I'd rather be a month early than a day late on this stuff.
So, you know, and what good is it to do?
What, what good is it if we know all of this stuff?
We see where things are going.
We look at patterns.
We see what's happened in the past.
We extrapolate where things are going in the future.
We do all this work.
I mean, people that listen to my show, the people that listen to your show are aware.
We're paying attention.
We see what's coming to not take that additional next step.
is insane. I mean, it's like, what's the point of knowing all this stuff if you aren't going to actually use it? So I would, I mean, I would get, I would get yourself prepared. And, and one of the things, just a follow up on what we were talking about with this dark winter simulation that we put in the book, I mean, for people just to maybe hammer this home as to how insane these things are and how also real they are, the people that were running that dark winter simulation. Thomas Ingalls,
and Tara O'Toole are the same people that ran Event 201.
They're both involved in this, okay?
Drills, simulating events that wind up going live.
As a human being, one of the great things that, one of the things that we are just innately
gifted with is pattern recognition.
We're just good at that.
We're good at spotting faces and we're good at pattern recognition.
And we're seeing the same pattern over and over again.
drills simulating events that later wind up going live almost the same way.
So when we point these things out, whether it be it in the book or on podcasts or just talking
to people, you know, initially the first time you hear about this stuff, it sounds crazy.
And they go, you guys stop talking about it's like, hang on a second.
If you kept seeing the same pattern over and over and over again, at what point would you at least trust that maybe this is,
something that you can come to expect.
I mean, when you've, so I get freaked out a little bit when I, I read about these simulations
that we've experienced.
We talk about dark winter.
We talk about 9-11.
We talk about 7-7.
We talk about, you know, a lot of these, a lot of these events that, the 7-7 bombing and a lot
of this stuff was, they were running drills, simulating the exact event while it happened,
you know, which is like a mathematical impossibility.
So you get to this corona situation that we're all living through.
And people are like, I don't know if it's real.
I don't know if it's this serious.
I don't know if it's all true.
I don't know if none of it's true.
It's like, okay, let's do this at least.
Let's look at the fact that there was a simulation event 201, a couple of months before it broke out, that simulated almost identically what we wound up happening.
This is yet another example of drills going live.
Now, could it be coincidence?
Sure, it could be coincidence.
It's not very likely, but it could be that Bill Gates and the World Economic Forum simulated
the outbreak of a coronavirus six months in advance, and then it just magically happened that way.
That's possible.
But then when you see the World Economic Forum this year talking about the Great Reset and the
Fourth Industrial Revolution and all of these concepts, then you go, then you go, what?
What are they talking about?
You read their work.
And what you come to understand is that in order for this great reset to happen that they're pushing,
society needs to be destroyed in advance.
And it's like, oh, looks like you guys have done a pretty good job of doing that over the last couple of months of this, you know, of this of 2020.
So you run a simulation, simulating the outbreak, the World Economic Forum and the Bill Gates Foundation,
run a simulation about an outbreak of a coronavirus that winds up happening exactly like they said it would.
And then on the heels of that, the World Economic Forum is going, hey, guess what?
Guess what?
We have time for the, you know, we're ready for the Great Reset, which is virtual reality, artificial intelligence, 5G, quantum computing, mandatory vaccines, universal basic income, self-driving cars, all this tech stuff.
tech takeover of the world. But in order for that to happen, the current paradigm of society
needs to be destroyed. Small businesses have to go. Medium-sized businesses probably have to go to.
Our relationship with cash is over. All of these things are transition into the mandatory vaccine
idea, which had always been like a pipe dream of big pharma. Now they have the possibility of
making that real with Operation Warp Speed that Trump is talking about rolling out, which is
extremely dangerous and has not just big pharma, but the military is involved in that.
The military industrial complex is involved in that.
So they're setting the stage for this.
It is the epitome of problem, reaction, solution.
Problem.
Oh, no, there's a virus.
It's going to kill everybody.
Reaction.
We've got to get a vaccine.
Let's fast track a vaccine.
Let's lock everybody in their houses.
That's the reaction.
Everybody's going to die.
The solution is, well, here we go.
Here is the vaccine.
Here's the new world.
Here's the new world order.
You get Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago, that beetle juice looking maniac talking about
pledging allegiance to the new world order.
She said it in a speech.
Everyone was like, what are you talking about?
And so it's like they're tipping their hands.
Some of these people are better at it than others.
Lightfoot is not very good at keeping the plan secret.
So we're just pointing these things out.
We're going back, you know, 20 years to to dark winter and crimson contagion and lockstep
and these simulations that have been run by the Rockefeller Institute that are that are
simulating the breakdown of society and all of these things.
And what did they all pick as the date for all this that to happen?
In lockstep, they picked this.
And then another simulation that the United Nations ran back in the 70s, they all picked the same year for it to start 2020.
Unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
You know, Charlie, it really kind of, it really irks me because what I see, and this is something I've been saying all year, really, when this stuff started happening, I started seeing.
Because when coronavirus first hit, I was looking at it from the China perspective.
which I was following it since early January, late December.
I was following this mysterious thing that was happening.
And I would talk about people at work and stuff and they're like, shut up, what are you talking about?
And so I was really worried because of what we were seeing, especially as time went on,
we saw what was coming out of China.
And if people that are listening, remember, I did a show on the coronavirus when it first came out.
And I went off for like 45 minutes about how serious this is.
And it was serious, but just not in the sense that I was saying to a series because I want to ask you,
vent 201 starts last year was this like a domino effect do you think leading up to what we got here
where it was all organized and planned because of the ultimate goal of taking down the American
Empire and I say that because I know that kind of touches a lot of people's nerves when I talk
about these kind of things but like I said I've been saying all year we have and I know
you mentioned this in the book too about safe spaces.
We have been, over the last 20 years of our society, been conditioned for this idea of safe space.
Back in the mid-2000s, when I first got married, I remember it was real big back then.
Your truth is your truth.
My truth is my truth.
Don't tell me your truth because it might offend me.
And they got everybody scared to talk to each other.
And when you get everybody scared to talk to each other, mix that in with the education system that we have.
And then also those two things combined then lead to one.
what, people not being able to critically think for themselves.
And it could be because how do we learn how to think and critically think together is because
we converse and we talk to each other openly without worrying about if I'm going to offend
you, Charlie, and you're not worried about offending me.
I'm going to say my ideas and you say your ideas.
And that's how we grow and sharpen each other.
And they didn't want that because an intelligent society would have stopped this a long time
ago.
They want, yeah, absolutely.
They want you not communication.
communicating with people. They want you, they want to polarize everybody. They love Donald Trump. The, the deep state, the media, all these different institutions. They love Donald Trump because he divides people. He's very divisive. And they like that. They want you divided into red team versus blue team on that. They want you divided into vaccine versus anti-vaccine. They want you divided into masks or no masks. They want you divided on everything. Trans rights, no trans, I mean, whatever. If there's a, if there's a, if
If there's an issue, they want it divisive, they want you to feel like it's the end of the world,
no matter, you know, like it's the most important decision ever.
And they've conditioned people, like you said, through college, through the college system, to say,
well, if you didn't like the results of the 2016 election and it made you feel all icky inside,
well, you can come to our safe space and then you can cry and have, you know, and have a blanket and you can,
you know, you can suck your thumb in the corner.
And this is, this is supposed to help.
of course it's not supposed to help anybody.
It creates helpless people.
And helpless people are very dependent on the government.
They're dependent on somebody telling them what to do.
So it destroys a sense of like, it's a sense of self.
It destroys your confidence.
It makes you view other people as the enemy.
We all have so much more in common than we have a part.
We're so much better off together as a gigantic group of Americans,
or as people, human beings, really,
then we are divided into these little camps.
But that's the trick that you have to use
when you are with the few controlling the many.
You can't beat them.
You know, the few can't control the many
one on, I mean, in terms of numbers,
because we've got them outnumbered a million to one,
but they can control us by getting us to fight with each other.
And to think that that guy over there is the enemy,
not looking up, which is where these rulers are, where the controllers really are,
they're up there laughing at us.
I mean, they've got us wearing masks.
They've got us fighting with each other.
They've got us dropping off pallets of bricks for us to throw through windows and everything.
I mean, it's organized.
It's not accidental.
And this is part of the agenda.
You were talking about corona early on, say, in January, talking about how
dangerous it is, you were right. You just didn't know how right you were. It is dangerous. It's dangerous because it is,
it is the tool that is going to be used for a very long time. It's, it's perfect cover. You can't see it. You can
extrapolate that everybody else has it, but they're not going to show signs of it. They might get sick two weeks from now.
So it's like it's impossible. How can you even operate in that? Well, I have to do contract tracing to see where
you've been over the last two weeks. Oh, really? You want to do that? And then what are you going to do?
knock on everybody's door that I came in contact with. Yeah, that's what they're doing it in
Australia. They're talking about doing it in the UK. This is where it's going. It's part of an
agenda. And you can look at, speaking of China, you talk about it's coming from China. There's
some other things that are coming from China too. And we touch on this in the book. The social
credit system is a huge component of this. And you can feel the social credit system in the
Corona narrative already. Can you explain the social credit system to the audience? Yeah. Okay. So here's
the best explanation of it from China. A city called Shenzhen, China already has this program
in place. It's not theoretical. It's operational. So you're a guy in China that is going to get on a bus
and you're smoking a cigarette. This is the example I use because it makes the most sense. You're smoking a
cigarette. You get on that bus. You're still smoking your cigarette. There's a facial recognition
camera in that bus, probably multiple
of them. I'm not talking about
CCTV cameras. I'm talking about facial
recognition. There's a different
thing. There's 300 million of them
already in China. So you're on this
bus, you're smoking the cigarette, which you're
not allowed to do. Camera picks up your
face, feeds it into the database.
Database matches it to who you are.
By the time this smoker guy
gets off the bus and
walking around the corner, his
cell phone pings and
says, you have been caught
smoking on this bus. We've identified that it's you. We have fined you $15, let's say, and that has already
been deducted out of your Webo account, which is like a PayPal. They do a lot of things with QR codes
in China, so it's similar to that. So you're going to get off this bus, the smoker guy,
and you have been fined already. You have no say in this. Now,
that gets tied into that smoker guy's social credit score which goes down so think of it like a credit
score your your your own actual credit score goes that you pay your bills on time your your
score goes up you you you uh you file bankruptcy your score goes way down you skip out on your electric
bill your score goes down a little bit but it's constantly moving the social credit system in china
does that so this guy the smoker guy his score goes down a little bit because he just got fined by
by getting off the bus because he was smoking.
He gets a phone call from a buddy of his, a good guy, and they talk for a little while.
Now, that guy's social credit score goes down because he made a phone call to the smoker.
So just because the smoker's score goes down, now anybody that touches that smoker, their score goes down too.
So now you have a whole new layer of censorship or you have people saying, God, you know, I can't talk to that guy.
I mean, I love him, but I can't talk to that.
My friend anymore because he just destroys my social credit score.
Now, now, that's, if it was just that and it was like your Facebook ranking, you could deal with that.
But that's not where it ends.
Where it ends is that the smoker guy, if his score gets too low, he can't get on an airplane.
He can't get on a train.
They won't let him.
They can't sell him a ticket because his score is too low.
And consequently, the guy that has a higher score, his score as it's going up, now all of a sudden he gets discounts on things that he might want.
If he goes to rent a car, he might get a discounted rate on that car.
If he goes to the grocery store, some of the items there are going to be on sale.
You know, like that shopper card you get at the grocery store and you can scan it and you buy enough stuff.
And then if that store is tied to, say, a gas station, like, oh, we'll swipe this card when you're getting gas.
and it'll give you like four cents off of each gallon of gas.
You're like, oh, cool.
It's kind of like that.
You get bonuses and benefits from having your social credit score high and you get them.
It's low if you're doing things that go against society.
So now take that and move that to the United States, which is, of course, where the United States government wants us to go.
So now you're a guy that's not wearing your mask and the facial.
recognition cameras catch you and they know exactly who you are because you're not wearing your
mask and you're socially distant you know you they want you so six feet away so that the facial
recognition cameras can pick you up you know without getting your buddy next to you so you you're not
wearing your mask and your score goes down now they make vaccines not mandatory they're not going to
make it mandatory they're just going to say that if you don't get it your score will go down if you
you don't get it, you might not even be allowed to get on the plane just because of that. But it'll all
be tied into this algorithm, this AI that's managing this social credit system. So it's a black mirror
episode. I mean, it's literally a black mirror episode. They did an episode about this and it's like,
oh, that's crazy. It's all in the future. Uh-uh. It's happening. If you're in China, it's happening now.
It's been exported already in Ecuador. It's in the process of being exported around the world. This
is the plant. And once this goes in, man, we're in trouble. Do you think now regarding the Black Mirror
episode and the idea of Black Mirror itself, because so much stuff in Black Mirror shows really are
happening and come true, do you think that that show itself is rolled out to test how the reaction
is from the public so they know how to tweak it and better design it to roll it out for real?
It could be. It could be. But it could also be, like if I got hired to be a writer on Black Mirror,
I could write those, I mean, not the, I could, I could, I could write those types of episodes as well.
Because all I would have to do, what's that?
You're a sick freak, my man.
Well, yeah, exactly.
Because you just, you just look at DARPA and you look at Boston Dynamics and these companies.
And, you know, there's an episode in Black Mirror where there's the robot dog that wanders around,
looking, you know, going through the warehouse, looking for these people.
That's straight up.
That's Boston Dynamics.
They're already building those things.
So, like, you don't have to look, you know, you don't have to look too far into the future to see some of this technology.
So it could be, you know, predictive programming where they're softening people up.
But if I was, if somebody said, we want you to write a new show and it's kind of about a dystopian future, I could write about those similar things just by looking at where we currently are and look at some of the writings of, you know, you go to like activist post and sites like that.
They'll talk about this encroaching surveillance system and the technocratic takeover.
And if I know, and I know about companies like Palantir that's doing these data dumps for the FBI and the CIA and all this stuff.
So if you understand the technology component of this, you can sort of see where it's headed.
And if you're, if you're a conspiracy theorist like me, then you just let your mind wander and you just say, all right, well, if I was a maniac governmental official or some technocratian.
weirdo who wanted to control society, what would I do? Oh, well, I would do this and I could do that. And the social credit system makes a whole lot of sense because you see social media. You see a credit system. You see that the government likes to kind of rate people. They're kind of secretly rating you in their mind anyway as to how difficult you are. And you hear these stories about in 2015 Jade Helm, these concentration camps that were being built inside of Walmarts and stuff like that. And whether or not that stuff,
is true or not, there's always a bit of, you know, whether it's 100% true or not, I don't know,
but there's always a bit of truth in that. And so part of that is like, well, that sounds like
conspiracy theory. And then you dig back and you go, well, Walmart did sign an agreement with
the government to be used as FEMA camps in the event of mass, you know, panic and stuff. So it's like,
it's not totally out of the realm of possibility. So, you know, we're, we get,
prime we get primed for some of this stuff through the media through uh movies television shows and
things like that uh and some of that is predictive programming just to soften us up so that we'll
accept it but also some of it is just writers that are like this would be a cool story to write about too
so there's a little bit of both but i think that with black mirror um i i think that they're
using that show more as a warning to us i get that feeling i don't know if it's i don't know if i'm
right. I hope I'm right. I hope it's being done as a warning, not as like, hey, doesn't this look? Well, because I don't think it, I think it's a warning because they never paint the picture of like, isn't this great? Isn't society wonderful? 15, 20 years in the future? It's always like, oh my God. This is where this, this is where this technology could go. This is where all of this stuff could go. And so it forces you to think about, you know, our relationship with with technology. And is it going? And is it.
I mean, it's great. You and are having this conversation through our computers, you know, and it's amazing that we can do that. So it's, so is all of this new technology bad? Well, I would suggest it's like a gun, right? It depends on whose hands it's in, right? The gun itself is not bad, but if a bad guy has one, then it can be used for bad things. And this technology, unfortunately, the people that are in charge of it are the worst types of people. It's the gun.
governmental officials and technocratic billionaires that have deep state ties and things like that.
And in QTEL, which is the CIA's venture capital company, they're involved in a lot of this and DARPA.
And you're like, all of this cool new technology that could be used to take us into a great reset that the World Economic Forum is talking about,
into a legitimate, you know, great reset that is beneficial for humanity. It's all there for us,
except that it's in the hands of the wrong people. So we'll see, we'll see where things shake out.
I mean, it's not, I'll tell you what, it's not over yet. And we can still get a handle on this,
but I think we need to be very careful about what we're being set up for and what direction
this social credit system and every all that things that feed into that vaccines and
and compliance and paying your taxes on time and and you know everything that gets fed into
this system like what it's going to do it's painting a picture of you it's making a voodoo doll
of you really a digital voodoo doll that they can then stick pins in at any time and uh affect you
yeah that's a really great analogy and when we're talking about the social credit system i i
had this thought and I wanted to run it by you because it's just completely random, but I don't know
if it makes sense what your thoughts are on it. It seems like the social credit system is
designing and creating a new system or classes of people according to your social credit system.
So, you know, instead of the upper class, middle class, lower class, we have it all according to your
social ranking. And the fact that they had that in China now, they didn't, what came before their
social credit system, though, communism, socialistic communists.
And what are we seeing moving into our country now? Socialism. Some would say it's communism. And even the
idea that I just heard, I think it was last week, Biden, if he went to presidency, has talked about putting
Bernie Sanders in as Secretary of Labor. So, I mean, it's clearly moving in that direction, which means
to me that they're trying to wipe the slate clean of these classes we have so they can introduce such
things as, you know, social credit systems. Yeah. Could you imagine you make, make reservations to go to
dinner to decent restaurant and you get there and you have to scan your phone in order to get in?
And they go, oh, so sorry. This is, this is five rating and up. Sorry, you're a four. Yeah. And we're just
not going to be allowed. So there you go. It's created a two-tiered system where the, where some people can get.
I mean, right now, it's not to say that we don't have that.
already. We have the rich and the poor and things like that. So it's like not everybody has access
to everything because they don't all have the money. But in this particular case, I could
foresee a scenario where it's like you have to have a certain score in order to do certain
things. And if your score falls below that, well, then you have to go over there to the
proverbial kids table and eat. You know what I mean? You're not allowed to sit with the adults
because your score's too low. You're not allowed in this restaurant. You're not allowed in this city.
You're not allowed to buy a house here.
I mean, just think of where all this could go.
Well, hey, do you see the neighbor?
Yeah, the neighbor moved in, but his score is so low.
Like, oh, we got to sign a petition to get this guy out of here.
He's going to bring everybody down.
It becomes this peer pressure.
What do you think about, you mentioned about cities and all that stuff.
What do you think about this idea that what we saw happening this year?
And again, folks, everything that we're talking about right now is covered in some former way in this book.
This is a very multifaceted book.
And if you disagree with Charlie, if you disagree with me, but specifically Charlie, go ahead and buy
his book and see how it lays out and prove them wrong, you know, but look at the sources that he
puts footnotes in. So with these cities that we saw happening over the summer, New York, Chicago,
like just mayors letting the cities get decimate. I have this feeling. I have this thought that
they wanted their cities to be destroyed to, again, like the term I just said a few minutes ago,
wipe the slate clean to allow themselves to do what something that china does smart cities
social credit systems and the only people who live in these cities were the ones who couldn't
afford to move out the poor people and what happens all the time in society governments throughout
the world the poor people have no voice they have no say in what happens what do you think about
that idea i think it's i think it's valid i think it's it's turning the cities into the projects
They talk about this in Agenda 2030.
They talk about the smart cities concept about moving people into micro apartments, like 150 square foot tiny apartments in the cities that everything is controlled.
Self-driving cars, 5G, universal basic income.
Think about universal basic income for a minute.
This is a concept that was foreign to us until, you know, for a year ago.
Andrew Yang's talking about it.
on January 1st of 2021, everybody is going to get a federal reserve digital crypto wallet.
Most people don't know that.
Wait,
they're going to get that.
When is that coming again?
January 1st.
2021.
Yep.
I didn't know that.
Everybody's get a federal reserve digital crypto wallet for the federal reserve coin that they want to put out.
Now, talk about a social credit system.
Your universal basic income, which is free money the government is going to give you because
they want you to be able to live because your job, you know, got handed over to a robot or so.
In order to collect your universal basic income, which won't come in the form of a U.S. dollar,
but it'll be in Federal Reserve coins, which will be a different tier of currency.
You have to be compliant.
If you want your food stamp, your EBT card, right, you can't use that to buy, you know, alcohol or cigarettes or things like there's certain restrictions on it.
Your UBI will be the same thing.
You want that money.
You got to be up to date on your vaccines.
You got to have your social credit score high.
I mean, this is where it's headed.
And so it's the carrot and the stick.
We're going to think about that.
So the government is going to give you free money.
For what?
There's got to be a catch.
Of course, there's a catch.
You have to be compliant with them in order to get, you know, in order to get their money.
So that concept has been rolled out recently.
We're starting to see over the course of 2020.
that this coronavirus has been more about, not about science, but about compliance.
So they're already priming us for becoming very compliant and docile and doing exactly what we're
told to do out of fear, you know, and then as the new systems roll in social credit,
that'll be fear-based as well, tied into universal basic income.
And then they'll pack everybody into the big cities.
And like you said, they've cleared out all of the, anybody that can get out,
I shouldn't say anybody.
But a lot of people that have the financial resources to get out of the big cities, they're trying to do that.
They either have done it already or they're giving it very serious thought.
And I don't think any of that is accidental.
And I lived in L.A. for a long, long time.
And it is unrecognizable these days.
Tent cities everywhere.
It is a mess.
And that comes from authoritarian, mostly Democrat.
I'm not on the Democratic side or the Republican side.
or the Republican side, just to be fair.
So when I'm going after one side, it's not to say I'm on the other side.
But there is a common denominator here, and it is Democratic-controlled states.
It is governors like Gavin Newsom and Whitmer and all these people that are out of their minds.
They are authoritarian dictator psychopaths.
And we're seeing it unfold right before Portland, Seattle, San Francisco,
Minneapolis, they've all got something in common. They're all being run by Democrats and they're all
having the most, the most incongruent reaction to rioting that I've ever seen, which is don't send
the cops in. It's not a riot. It's a protest. Everything's fine. You look at chop or chas or whatever
it was in Seattle. They're going, oh, no, no, no, no, this is fine. It's an autonomous zone. We're just going
to everything's fine in there.
It's, you know, the governor and the mayor and everything.
And you're just going, I'm so, did I wake up on another planet?
What is it?
What is happening here?
How is this okay?
What is going on?
And I think that they have been promised something.
I think that they have absolutely all been promised something.
I agree.
At the table in the new world order.
They are proving themselves.
Lori Lightfoot, like I said before, gave it away.
She gave up the game when she talked about, we all have to pledge our, you know,
our support to the new world order.
No, we don't. Okay, you're going to get hung at some point. These may or these governors are going to, there will be a day of reckoning for them if the people ever wake up to what's really going on and there will be gallows for them. And I'm not advocating for that. I'm not saying that, you know, we should do that. I'm just saying that this is what happens. When you push very, you push a large group of people, you create fear and panic and desperation. You impede their health. You destroy their jobs. You destroy their homes. Their families.
They're not allowed to communicate with each other.
They're not allowed to look at each other's face.
They can't go to Grandma's house for Thanksgiving.
What do you think is going to happen?
People are going to freak out.
And they want that because when everybody's destabilized,
it makes it a whole lot easier for them to just roll out this authoritarian program
because people are short-term thinking about their immediate safety
and they're not planning long-term.
They're certainly not reading books that the Club of Rome wrote 50 years ago.
laying out this whole plan. They're not reading about the United Nations. They don't know who the
World Economic Forum is. All this information is there if you want it. And we tried to compile it
in the book, but we're not the only source of this, to be fair. A lot of people are talking about these
things. So it's like, get yourself educated on this to understand what's coming. Because if you don't
know the backstory, all this stuff is going to seem totally disjointed to you, like random occurrences.
But I assure you, they are not random. They are connected. This is an agenda. This is the
controlled demolition of the American Empire because the New World Order cannot put their one-world plan, their one-world government plan, into place as long as there is an existing superpower. They destroyed the Soviet Union in 1991, using much of the same tactics that they're using on the American Empire right now. And I'm not trying to say that America itself is going to go away, but the American Empire is. And that is 1,000 military bases all around the world, the Petro-Doh.
the U.S. dollar is the world's reserve currency.
All of, you know, our relationship with all these countries where we've been threatening them
and extorting them for all these years, all that stuff can go away real fast.
And I would say that the United States' behavior over the past 50 years around the world has been
reprehensible.
And there are plenty of countries that are on board with us getting knocked down a couple pegs.
So we're not going to have the sort of support that we imagine that we're going to have around
the world.
when our empire is destroyed and the detonators have been rigged, this thing is coming down,
we're not going to get much sympathy from the rest of the planet because of the behavior of our government
and the starting of indiscriminate wars and the gaslighting of people and the sanctions that we've slapped on,
people, and what we've done in Yemen, you know, it just goes, it's just endless that the amount of pain and suffering that the U.S. has,
fomented on the on the world and and and there is a price to pay for that at some point so look
I'm an American I love this country I take no pleasure in this analysis of it I wish that I saw
everything getting a whole lot better I just don't I don't right now because I don't see enough
people awake to this reality but I will tell you the good news is that because of what we've
experienced in 2020 with Corona and this election and all
of this stuff, I think a lot of people are waking up to the reality that maybe we're being
lied to by the media. Maybe we're being lied to by the government. Maybe their version of reality
isn't really what we're experiencing. And that is the first step is for people to feel that
there's a big con job being perpetrated on us. And then from there, you can wake up and then start
to change things. So like I said, I take no pleasure in this analysis. But this is what
I'm trying to be honest and objective about what we see coming, and I see pain coming, and I wish I didn't.
And I don't think we can stop at all.
But we can certainly sound the alarm bells.
We can talk to our friends and family.
We can explain what we see coming.
We look at history, what we see in the present and where it's going in the future, and we can move ourselves to higher ground so that once this whole thing happens, we are in a much better position to build ourselves back, our families,
back. We might even be able to capitalize and profit from this. But most importantly, just keep
yourself safe. That is the most important thing. I couldn't agree with you more. It just seems like
the end game for them is a dystopian society of global loss of freedom, no retreat to anywhere.
And from what it sounds like to you, there's a lot of pain coming, but through education and
understanding, we might be able to stop some of this that they're trying to pull off. And the best
spot to start. If you're new to all this and you're really trying to get your teeth into it,
is check out Charlie's book, The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. Charlie, they can get it
on Amazon. Is that the only place they can get it right now? Yeah, that's the only place right now.
We've got the paperback and Kindle version there. We're working on the audiobook as we speak.
We've got people getting to work on that. That'll probably be two months away, though. It takes a
little while to get that done. But we've got that for our, you know, for our people, our listeners that are
busy and on the go or maybe illiterate. I don't know. Either way, I don't care.
Like truck drivers like me, right? So, I mean, it's easy to listen to an audio book while you're
driving around all day. So anyways, Charlie, thanks for coming on the show. It's been a pleasure
and you dropped a lot of information. I really hope people go and check out your book.
I'm really excited about sinking my teeth into it. And remember,
folks, this book is climbing on the charts on Amazon. It doesn't do that by accident. It doesn't do
do it because Charlie wrote it in his basement and put it out last week. And it just happened to
magically do that. This is a book that people are reading because it's substantial, has lots of
information, and it's true. Charlie, thanks for being here, man. Thanks, Tony. Well, that's the show,
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The truth will set you free, but first they'll piss you off. Bye.
A person who thinks all the time has nothing to think about except thoughts. So he loses
touch with reality and lives in a world of illusions.
By thoughts I mean specifically, chatter in the skull.
Perpetual and compulsive repetition of words of reckoning and calculating.
I'm not saying that thinking is bad.
Like everything else is useful in moderation.
A good servant but a bad master.
and all so-called civilized peoples have increasingly become crazy and self-destructive.
Because, through excessive thinking they have lost touch with reality.
That's the same.
We confuse science.
With the real world, most of us would have rather money than tangible wealth.
and a great occasion is somehow spoiled for us and less photographed.
And to read about it the next day in the newspaper is oddly more fun for us than the original event.
This is a disaster.
For as a result of confusing the real world of nature with mere signs, we are destroying nature.
We are so tied up in our minds that we've lost our senses.
Time to wake up.
What is reality?
Obviously, no one can say because it isn't words.
It isn't material.
That's just an idea.
Reality is...
Cannot be explained in the world.
Put you down.
It's an expression of you as you are.
One must live.
We need to survive.
We must go on.
