The Confessionals - 30: The Confessions of a Federal Officer

Episode Date: August 12, 2017

Episode 30 features retired federal officer Don sharing his lifelong experiences with paranormal activity, from childhood into adulthood.? Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel Tony's Instagram: tony_merkel Tony's Facebook: www.facebook.com/tbmerkel  

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Staying in the shadows. It's called proleting. Fair for the rest of the rest. You guys hear that? Welcome to the show, everybody. I am your host, Tony Merkel, and I am really glad that you're here. And I'm really glad to be here. I got a great show plan for you tonight.

I got Don coming on, who was a federal officer. and he comes on to kind of just share a lot of his life experiences with paranormal type activity. Before we get into that, though, I want to let you guys know that next week's show, episode 31, is going to be a big show, and I want everybody to make sure they tune in because I'm interviewing a guy who claims to have killed a Bigfoot. In South Ohio, where he lives, he comes on to share his story of when he killed a Bigfoot. So make sure you tune in for that. The show is titled, I Killed Bigfoot. There's a promo video for it on the Facebook page. So go ahead and check.

that out at the Confessionals on Facebook, but make sure you tune in next week because next week's show is going to be a very intriguing show. I want to remind you guys that if you've had an encounter of any kind, it does not matter to me what it is. It could be government conspiracy. But if you've had an encounter and you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and email me at the Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's the Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. Or you can go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the connection section. And you can reach me that way as well. Either way works for me.

Just get a hold of me. And without any further delay, let's get to tonight's show with Don. Okay, today I have a great guest coming on, Don. And Don contacts me and lets me know that he's a former federal officer with secret security clearance. And he comes on today to share a lot of experiences that he's had throughout his entire life stemming from his childhood up to more current times. Don, how are you today?

I'm doing well, Tony. How about yourself? I'm doing fantastic, man. Thanks for reaching out to me. I know when you first reached out to me, he told me your profession. And I told you this in the pre-interview. My first reaction was, I'm not sure if I'm going to answer this right away. I mean, you know, to have a, you know, a federal officer contacting me. I was a little, I just wanted to feel it out.

So I actually looked at your, you know, looked you up a little bit and did some recon myself. But I'm glad to be talking with you today and, you know, for you to share some of these experiences that you've had. You have, now we talked a lot about this before, but you've had a lot of experiences with, you know, the more, for lack of better words, just generalize alien type of entities. Would you like to start us there? yes absolutely first I'd like to start off by saying thank you for having this venue

for folks to come forward I do appreciate your professionalism and then you know this is something I think is well needed a lot of folks carry this with them and just don't typically have an opportunity or venue to feel safe that they could discuss

these important issues. So basically we could go back. I grew up in a major metropolitan area up in the Northeast. And ever since I was very young, I've had a lot of very strange experience. It starts out where a lot of times, I'll just give you a little background. My father was not the nicest guy.

He, for some reason, targeted me and kind of I was always punished or in trouble for things I did do, didn't do. So a lot of times I was home alone because I was punished while everybody else was out doing things. So a lot of times, these are the times that these things happened to me. Not always, but in the beginning, that's how it happened. So the first incident that I remember I was probably four. It was early 1970s. I was home in an apartment building, broad daylight.

I started kind of hearing some just weird sounds, like a clicky type, just vibration. It's hard to explain the type of sound. And I felt like this weird energy wasn't quite static, but kind of had that thing where, like, pins and needles and hairs started standing up. and then I was actually looking out my window at my siblings playing down stairs in the courtyard and my dog started getting very nervous so I turned and looked in the direction he was looking

in and there was this black figure walking down the hallway towards me and it was so terrifying that I just started climbing out the window onto the fire escape screaming for my brothers to come up to help and they came flying up so it turned and went down towards our bedrooms and then my brothers and all their friends that took them probably three, four minutes

to get up there and they searched the house and couldn't find it, but the dog was still a nervous wreck. So, excuse me, I'm just having a little flashback of that. Then my brothers and everybody, they searched everything. They actually called the police. They went through the whole house because first, I didn't know if it was a thief, a robber. I didn't see the door physically open, but it came in from front door area, which was actually locked.

They could not find this, whatever it was. At first, I didn't know what to make of a lot of these things until later on in life, after learning more about what's out there, how these entities can present themselves. Second time, same exact place, probably six months later. Same scenario, home alone, punished once again for imaginary things. Now the same scenario, similar noises, dog kind of going nuts. and I look up and there's four of these things

and they're kind of walking in my direction but they presented themselves this time as something non-threatening like kind of almost cartoonish I mean I'm trying to remember the name of the show used to be on in the 70s and they kind of presented themselves of these characters

and were like waving at me trying to put me at ease. Once again, you know, seeing something like this, you know, he kind of freaked out, although not as freaked out as the first time. And it took me a little longer to kind of snap out of it and shout down once again to my family members. Then they came flying up and once again clear the house. Nothing was there.

And they thought it was... My older siblings kind of thought it was... something that was in my imagination. Later on, I discussed with one of my other siblings, and they said they had similar things happening during that timeline. Then later on, during the 70s, also we moved to a new location. And this was so inside of city limits, but a little more, instead of houses, more,

instead of apartment buildings, more houses, garden apartments, condo type, you know, two-level condo-type things. and in this place I was getting a lot of, a lot of activity. One, I was having, once again, my same dog was with me, and I started hearing these weird sounds. This way it kind of sounded like, you know, when you're really hungry, and you're something kind of makes that weird sound,

but it was similar to that, but it just kept getting louder and louder and louder and louder. And I started seeing like these weird, flashes of light inside the bedroom that I was in. And my dog was like growling looking at. And then I started, and then whatever it was said my name three times. And it said it first in a very deep menacing voice. And then the second time it said it in a normal voice.

It was like dawn. And then the third time it was almost like a kid's voice. Needless to say, I didn't want to stick around to see what was going to enter in. So I just grabbed my dog under my arm and I hauled out of the house and there was my mom just pulling up from work. She could tell that we were visibly shaken and she didn't even want to go in the house because she said she had some, you know, weird experiences as well, never really went into it. So then like a couple weeks later in another bedroom, we had this able set up with the old. line L trains, the little tiny ones. And we had this, I was just in there,

and there was another weird thing, kind of like a staticy, weird sounds and clicking. And I started seeing this light manifesting, and it kept shooting up. And it was like shooting straight up and then out to the side, then up and out of the side. And the frequency of it just kept changing,

it was going faster and faster and faster. And once again, you know, scared the light. out of me for the most part and exited once again. Um, following up a couple weeks later, um, I got home one evening and, uh, most of my family was asleep. It was actually like probably a couple years later. Most of my family was asleep. I hear, you know, just kind of weird stuff again. I'm getting the feeling once again. My hair standing up and then I hear something to say my name and I thought it was my sister.

and she actually was not asleep at the time. And I was like, hey, was that you? She goes, no. I was, did you hear that? She goes, yeah, I did. I thought it was one of your friends. And it was not. So since then, she's forgotten that.

She's not remembered that, but we did talk about it quite a few times over the years, but since then, I don't know what happened to her memory. Same neighborhood. Now we're in like the early 80s. It's probably early evening, sun setting. I'm walking down to, walking through our neighborhood, heading down to going to a store to go by something. And I see this very strange series of light.

Kind of maybe 10, 15 feet off the ground. I couldn't have been more than 70, five feet away from it. And it was just these just super bright, multiple different color lights. It was red, blues, whites. And it was just moving up over the road, fairly quick pace. And it was just gone. I mean, it took off so fast.

I couldn't even see which direction it went in. And then I was trying to convince myself that, you know, maybe it was a fire truck, maybe it was a police car. And then I'm like, well, they don't hover. or they don't hover off the ground. This is something I don't recall telling any family members shortly after that. I don't know how this memory came into place, but I remember seeing this.

By the way, all of these incidents I'm telling you about all followed major nosebleeds. I had my nose would just stop bleeding for quite a long time. and doctors couldn't figure out why my nose would bleed. It was just really weird. So with other incident, I just see myself standing, I don't know if I was in some place or looking up at something, but everywhere that I looked as far as I could see, there was just bright lights of many different colors.

You could tell it there was something intelligent, there. I felt as though I was being observed. I don't recall anything having contact with me necessarily. I do remember when I got home that I got in trouble again because I was, you know, an hour or so late. I don't remember gone that long. It seemed like I was only gone for 10, 15 minutes. Stuff like that would happen quite often where I was. always get in trouble. My father always thought I was lying to him when I in fact wasn't, but I had thought that I was only going for short periods of time and end up being late to dinner, late to get home and, you know, coming home with a nosebleed. He's like, what's going

on with you? You got your nose is bleeding. You're late. What, what are you doing? And it's a really scary time. And this is all during the 80s. Now, in Around, I think it was 85, I was dating a gal that went to Sarkees University. And while visiting, one night, we're just nighttime, everybody's sleeping. So we're just laying in bed sleeping and startled away. There was some kind of weird light in the room. It seemed like curtains were kind of moving, like something like a fan was on him, something like that. And as I look up, there's these three.

At the time, I thought they were demon. Now I come to realize that they were actually reptilian. And I had, one was on my chest, and his face was almost nose to nose touching this thing. And it was just looking into my soul. I could tell that it was just reading me. I don't know what its purpose was. the other one was down closer to my legs just kind of I don't know if it was holding me there but I felt like I couldn't move the only thing I could move was my eyes and I couldn't even move my head and when I looked over to my left I saw my girlfriend and there was one that was crawling up her going like from her waist up to her and then I felt this like energy come through my body.

And it almost seemed like I snapped out of whatever. It was freezing my body in that position. And I found a lot of anger or whatever, but I thought that she was being harmed. And I just, I felt like this energy. And I, well, so I could move and they just, like, vanished pretty much. And they were gone. When I did tell her that story, she didn't remember it,

but we were talking about some friends of hers. And they said, that's a very odd thing, similar type things happen to them that very same time period. So that kind of confirmed from me, okay, you're not nuts. You know, I wasn't consuming any alcohol or anything at the time. So I know I was stone sober. And after that, you just to say I couldn't sleep for quite some time. Now, do you want to just talk about this first and then we could go into some of the other topics

during the same timelines or do you want to just jump around to different? No, we can definitely talk about this. Actually, I was about to cut you off anyways and ask you some questions. Okay. So basically, let's start with this 1985 incident at your girlfriend. I believe you said it was your girlfriend's college. What strikes me is you said it looked like a reptilian. It was nose to nose with you. I'm not sure if you had a chance to do this yet. Have you had a chance to listen to the episode that I just came out with yesterday? I did. You did. Okay. I did. In that episode, Steve talks about having something attacking him on, I believe he said it was his couch. And it was, to me, in my mind, I'm picturing similar similarities.

Because I think Steve described it as almost like a dragon-looking thing. And I was just curious, this reptilian that you saw, like, could you describe its characteristics a little bit? because I'm wondering if people are seeing things that are very similar, but they're just describing it differently. Yeah, the description that he gave was very similar. It was very big. I mean, it was like way bigger than he is. I'm just shy of six foot.

I just remember it being very massive, like maybe seven, seven and a half foot tall. just real super heavy and I felt the weight on me of him when he was and I'm saying him and I'm not 100% sure its complexion was kind of bumpy, scaly

point like kind of almost a little desertish like a bearded dragon type skin it had pretty large eyes I don't remember seeing anything other than blackness.

It could have been different from that. I don't recall seeing any hair, any clothing to speak of. I would love to go through regression, be able to gain, because I'm sure more than that happened. I just don't know. I think this is what I'm either allowed to remember

or what, I think that's what I've been allowed to remember from from um it was that's why i thought it was a demon at first i thought it was like this but then later on because i didn't really follow UFOs and sci-fi and all this and then later on after you know saying okay well all this weird stuff's happening to me you know maybe i need to do a little research and figure it out and it took me quite a long time before i realized that that it was presenting himself as reptilian to me okay i got you yeah i mean the human mind is, you know, so complex. And, you know, it's funny because there's things that I

am still just remembering from my childhood. I'll be driving down the road listening to something. And all of a sudden, this memory hits me in my head that I didn't remember for years. And all of a sudden, it makes sense for current situations I'm going through now. It's like, wow, you know, why does the human mind block out certain memories? It's just, it's a very complex thing. With all these lights that you've been seeing, it seems like if I'm remembering, incorrectly with everything you've shared, almost every situation involves some kind of lights in that encounter. Do you think that there's possibly a relation between it all? Like, almost as if there's one specific thing that's almost maybe following you around and presenting

itself to you in different ways, but the light is the common characteristic. You know, I definitely think that it's related somehow. I feel that, you know, if they are not the same beings that they all know of each other, and they're all somehow either associated or loosely associated, you know, whether their mission is the same or not, I mean, maybe they're just studying us and, you know, the different facts. are doing similar research. I don't know for sure, but I feel that once you have an extraordinary experience happen, you're kind of an open door for other things to happen to you or present themselves to you,

whether it be crypted, interdimensional, just all kinds of different things. I think that you basically are an open door. Maybe portal yourself to allow these things to come in and out. I don't know the answer to that. But I can say that I do feel that they are related somehow. Okay. Yeah, I mean, these lights that you were seeing, it wasn't all at night, right?

There was daytime light sightings, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, plenty of them. And there was quite a few daytime sightings. You know, and I've heard a lot of people talk about, you know, cloaking. And you know what if these beings do come from another planet or another dimension, it's very likely that their science is so much more advanced than ours and their ability

abilities are so much greater. Like I'll just give you a quick example of in high school. I went to a very large high school in the inner city and at lunchtime just me and a whole bunch of my friends are sitting outside of this pizza place and I used to be like to class clown. So I'm like telling jokes and I'm standing facing everybody

and then my back is to a road and all of a sudden, some inner voice just says, step forward very quickly. And as I stepped forward, this car actually came up on the sidewalk and spun out and literally missed me by an inch. You know, was that whatever it is, follow me around. Is that the door that's open? Was that God?

I don't know. But I think that, you know, you know, once you're open, I think that, I think that you're open to many, many things. And listening to your show, I see a lot of people have had multiple experiences, you know, in several different, unseemingly related fields. That inner voice that you heard, is that something that you've ever experienced before or after? I have. I have. I've heard it several times. I had another incident where it was the same thing.

I almost got blasted by a car, and it was another thing for some reason. I just started running, and a car just came flying up on the sidewalk and hit this cement barrier where I was literally a couple seconds earlier. Another time, and they always seemed to come when there was potential

for great bodily harm or death. And another time was, in the 80s, sort of the 90s, and Washington Square Park in New York City, I was there with a female friend of mine, and we were going to sit down on these park benches, and we were just getting ready to sit down, and that little voice inside said, you know, just get up and go somewhere else right now. And we got up and we walked. And as we were walking, I just hear this like, boom, boom, boom. And I turn around and I see people flying through the air. And what happened was some lady, older lady, hit the gas pedal instead of the break and she drove through the park

and she was actually crashing through these park benches, which were fastened to cement, and they were snapping. And I think she killed six people. And it was right where we were sitting. Wow. You know, yeah, that was, so when I was younger, I used to ignore it. Now I do not, because I definitely feel that whatever it is. What's the batting average with this voice that you hear? I mean, is it something that when you hear it and whatever you're hearing, it comes true? Like, you know, if it says move to your right for generic, you know, terminology, move to your right. If you don't do it, does like a, you know, a baseball hitching the head, you know, like what's the average here?

I mean, are we talking like this voice is very consistent, very accurate all the time, or is it, you know, a hit and miss kind of thing? It's pretty much every time it happens, something major happens. Another one was, it was in 2001. At the time I was actually injured, I had a, I blew my knee out, and I had to schedule a doctor's appointment, but I only had like a couple days to do it. So originally they wanted me to come in on the 11th of September. So we used to take the train, which was the E-training, Queens, and we'd take away to the World Trade Center.

So my fiancé at the time, which we were not married, obviously because she was my fiancé, but I was trying to get up there to be with her. So I called and rescheduled the appointment for the 10th. So I took the train in, got off the World Trade Center. and I think that was that inner voice telling me, hey, change this. Well, we all know what happened the next day. No, the buildings were hit by airplanes and they came to the ground. So it was right around the same time that I would have been in the building that the appointment was originally scheduled for.

So it was only a few blocks away. He was to say that was something that made quite a bit, which actually the reason why I chose to become a federal officer. Wow, so that event actually spawned your career as a federal officer? Correct. Okay. Correct. I have a family member that was supposed to be in the World Trade Center that day,

and he didn't hear a voice or anything like that, but from what he said, he told me this story years ago, but he just decided to skip that day. he was supposed to be there for, I don't know, something with work. And he doesn't work in New York City, but he was supposed to be there, but he decided just to skip it. And that's the day that the towers were hit. So, you know, I wouldn't say it was a voice like you heard, but it's very interesting how, you know, circumstances lead to either traumatic experiences or saving you from such traumatic experiences. Right. I think even if you're not hearing an actual voice, because I've heard multiple people tell us very similar stories that day. They were supposed to be there and either the cab got a flat tire or the train was running late or, you know, they went in to grab a bail and a coffee and they spilled coffee, you know, just so many different things. I think that's all the same thing just presenting itself in a different way to what they can. comprehend, understand, and

deal with. And, you know, I think folks that are supposed to be someplace and those that are not, are not. And they are guided away from those scenarios. I can give you one more

example, and I've got to be kind of careful on super details. Okay. Because it could very easily be looked up and names can be given some trying to in the 90s as well, probably mid-90s.

I was, at that time, I was working as a contractor, so I'm just going to kind of be vague about that. And I was helping a friend out who had a very beautiful mansion, and they had all kinds of contractor defects.

So I was helping them out for a few months, item after item after item, they had to repair and fix. and rebuild items and one of our mutual friends basically out of the blue, hey, I need your help today. I was like, okay, no problem.

So I drove up to North Jersey, helped this individual. I was supposed to be back in South Jersey. I want to say around 6.30, 7 o'clock, all these weird little events kept happening that just one weird, delay after the other and none of it made sense of the time I'm going, this is really bizarre

because every time I'm trying to get out of here, something else happens that requires my attention immediately. And the whole time I was back and forth with the other friend in South Jersey and I was talking to him. And then at like eight something,

his phone, I couldn't get through and then all of a sudden, and I had a freshly to charge by my battery just completely drained and had nothing left in it, which I thought was really bizarre. So now I have to recharge my phone before I can call back and I kept calling and calling and calling and nothing. So I'm like, all right, maybe he went out somewhere. And so I ended up getting back out there at like probably two in the morning and all the lights around in the house and, you know, everything's just wide open. So I used to just walk in. So I used to just walk in.

I, you know, knock first, nobody had. So I walked in, and I turned to my left. And he and another person were actually murdered in the house. So I grabbed his dogs and basically got out of there because I didn't know if the person was still there. I didn't know what was going on. And when the police came, they said that there was blood droplets at each doorway of the house.

and they said that the people that did that were looking to see if there anybody else was there. And I was supposed to be there the whole time. It was not scheduled, but I was supposed to not be there. So I think that's one of those divine interventions or that inner voice or circumstance, whatever I think it's associated just kept me out of harm's way because it wasn't my time, I guess. Wow.

That's pretty heavy thing to deal with. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, to just sit there and think that you were supposed to be there and you dodged such a traumatic event. I mean, that will shake anybody. It does. And I got to say, I probably had post-traumatic stress disorder for quite some time. I was probably in denial about it. I do still, for some reason, suffer tremendous guilt for not being there, thinking that there was something I could have done.

but obviously the people that did this were very good at what they do. And I probably would have been laying right next to them. You know, logically, you could say that, but psychologically, you could say, well, you know, it's kind of harder to deal with, you know. Jeez. All right. Well, you mentioned taking the dogs out of there, and it made me remember something you said earlier back to your childhood. You said that your dog could see or at least sense what you were experiencing. Is that something that gave you comfort that you weren't, you know, crazy?

It did. It did. And another thing that did help is my mother is just like one of the most amazing people in the world where I didn't get a lot of that positive reinforcement and energy for my father. My mother made up for a tenfold, and she never once thought I was lying. She always believed me. She always said she believed me. Even as an adult, I'd discuss some of these things with her, and she has said, yeah, I believe you 100%. I've experienced some bizarre things in my life. She never really went into detail about them, but she always supported and understood

that what I was saying was accurate. Okay. Yeah, because, I mean, that's one thing where when I was a kid, growing up. I was always told that dogs can see and sense ghosts. And so we always had two dogs. And so whenever I would feel weird or something, I was always looking for my dogs. How are they, how are they react? I'd call them to me because somehow they're going to protect me or something like that. Right. Now, you mentioned back in- Cats, cats too will do that. Cats too. Yeah.

At the time we had at the first couple incidents, we had both cat and dog, and they both were acting a little, you know, the cat not as much as the dog, but they were both looking in the same place. The cat kind of just was more, you know, focused on it where the dog was actually very nervous. Right, but, I mean, come on, let's be real. Cats can't protect you. Without a doubt, without a doubt, yeah. They run before you run.

So back in the 70s, you were telling me about the first experiences that you've had. And it was like an early morning experience. And did the police actually come out to that first experience? I remember them coming out. And they were looking for, you know, a burglary in process. They were looking for a criminal in my house. and they went and cleared the closets under the beds or the bedrooms. They looked everywhere and there was nothing.

I mean, there was nothing there. At that point, I didn't feel the energy anymore. I didn't feel the, so whatever it was had left. Now, there was no way for it to leave because I had the only exit in my field of vision the whole time. So there was no way because the way it did was it came down the hallway. made a little, it would have made a left, but it would have been to my right because I was facing it, went down towards the bedrooms. And so I literally climbed out and started screaming, but I kept looking inside to see if the thing is coming.

Even further, I have to go down the fire escape to get out of there. And fortunately, I didn't have to continue down, and I was on the upper floors. I think it was a six-story building. I was on the fifth floor. Okay. Now, I just was wondering if they came out and how they treated the situation. But so one of the entities, I'm not sure if it's the same one, you may not even be sure, but during this time you experienced an entity that you said presented itself like a cartoon.

It was cartoonish. It resembled a cartoon of that time in the 70s. Yeah. Have you ever listened to episode, I think it's 17, touching a big, foot with Jason. He tells a story when he was a kid before he gets into his big foot encounter. He tells a story of having something climb in through his window and transforming in front of him into different images. And I remember distinctly him talking about one of the images was, I think he said, it was Fred Flintstone from the Flintstone's cartoon. And he said it scarred him.

Like it scared him so bad seeing one of his childhood cartoons being there scaring him. Is that like a similar experience that you had? I would say yes. And actually I just remembered the name of the show. It was called The Banana Split. And it was more, and actually YouTube, because it's quite humorous. It's kind of like these hippie animals that are kind of like, I think it was like a take on the monkeys or the bees.

those, but it was like an animal version. So they had these oversized animal suits and goofy get-ups. And I remember kind of presenting itself from that way to me. And the way they were looking at me, they did almost the same pattern as the original darker mass. And they kind of came and, you know, were waving at me and, like, kind of trying to probably put me at ease. But, you know, knowing what reality is and what reality isn't,

you're sitting there going, wow, this is, you know, this is crazy and it's insane, you know. I mean, if I wasn't so secure in believing what I actually saw and heard, I would have probably thought I was losing my mind. But, you know, being grounded in reality, you just kind of sit there and say, okay, well, this is definitely something I cannot explain, you know, and pretty terrifying when you're a child. Yeah, I can't only imagine. I mean, yeah.

How do you even put something like that into words when you're a kid trying to describe or even comprehend what you're witnessing? It's just out of this world, literally. Oh, absolutely crazy. You know, and the older I got, the more, I kind of, you know, with that inner voice or whatever it was that had protected me all these times

from certain deaths several times. And she was bodily injury several other times. I was thinking that, you know, I'm not as worried about it as I once was. You know, when I was younger and I didn't understand some of this, I was so terrified that, you know, I was going to be, you know, dissected or harmed in a really, really horrible way. but then realizing that something's keeping me safe, even if I'm going through experiences,

it's not going to allow me to be majorly harmed. Oh, and one quick thing, going back to the voice, this was also in the 90s. It was around Christmas time. I was at a friend's house, and we were going to go Christmas shopping for their children. and as we were getting ready to head out, it was my friend's wife and I were going to go because she wanted to buy him some presents and wanted my opinion on what to get him.

And everything kept stalling us, stopping us. Everything. And I wasn't listening to what was being told to me. Like, stop, you're not supposed to do this. And then we get in the car and pull down maybe a quarter mile from the house and we're at a red light. the light turns green and she's busy jibber jabbering and talking and talking and talking and I just look at her and I said are you waiting for a certain shade of green and she gives me a slap on the arm like oh you're such a wise guy she's a different term than that but gives me a slap

on the arm and then she drives through and then just as she does this cable company truck comes barreling through the intersection that probably over 50 miles an hour and crushes the car that I'm in and pushed us into another car and then pushed that car up onto a sidewalk into a store. So while I was in the car, I actually broke my neck, not horribly, but I had broken bones in my neck. So let's put it that way. I was still able to move someone. I had blood in my face, blood in my eyes. My eyes were cut. I had said cuts from me. the glass exploding to my face, crushed the side of car.

I was in, so I was basically sitting in her lap. She thought I was dead, so I figured, you know, let me just crack a little humor, so I just said, I suppose we're not going Christmas shopping today, which was immediately followed by a slap on the arm, and then she's like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

And I was like, don't worry about it. That didn't hurt. And then upon, you know, emergency services showing up, I could see through the blood and all the stuff. I could see they were doing the old hand across the throat, like this guy's dead, without even looking in because they didn't think that I could have survived that much damage.

And each different group that came up, first the police, they did that, then the ambulance, and then they were doing that. And the cop, like, no, he's alive. He's talking. And they had to cut me out with the jaws, get me out of it. Joe's life got out of it.

and considering the crash, I didn't receive any major head injuries. I had some broken bones in my neck, still able to move it, sore for a couple of months, no internal damage. And, you know, I think that was some of the divine intervention or whatever energy is keeping me safe. I pushed past it. They said, okay, well, now you've got to learn a little lesson. And since then, I've not ignored it. Yeah, sometimes it takes a dramatic experience to open you up to, you know, what's really going on.

And, you know, I've had similar experiences along, not dramatic like that, but just eye-opening situations where you're like, okay, from now on, I'm going to listen to that inner voice that I hear. Yes. So all that stuff has happened to you in your life, and we have a lot more to cover here. It's quite a bit. Yeah. Let's move into the more paranormal UFO flying objects, things that you talked to me about earlier. And also, you know, we did talk about this earlier, and I don't want to drop a bombshell, but I just want to remind you, have you talked about the Nordics?

I don't remember you talking about the Nordic entities, and I just don't want to forget to talk about that. Right, no, I haven't discussed that, or the Gway. Right. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing it because I had it had it written down here. I just want to make sure I didn't miss it. Right, right. Yeah, that I didn't discuss yet. You know, a lot of this stuff was happening during the same timeline in the 90s, you know, the crash and things were just very chaotic in my life at the time.

You know, I think a lot of times with things have been chaotic in my life, pretty much my apparent life. And I think that's maybe one of the things that opens up the door for things to study or come in or have them become more open to things. I'm not 100% short. But a lot of that stuff happens when it gets real crazy around the same, like from late 80s to the early 2000s. Okay. All right. Well, let's move on to, you know, the next situations here. Okay.

So let's see. In the 90s, one of my relative zones, a beautiful house, probably about 17, 18 acres of land, backed up to some land. We used to hang out there a lot, and we had seen lights in the forest moving. And at first, logically, you want to tell yourself, okay, I think this is, you know, there's someone out there with a flashlight. but with a flash let you get the bouncing of the body of the body moves the arm swinging you know lights kind of do it things these things were very consistent they were just kind of moving

in a very defined straight pattern we tried walking towards the light could never get close to it always seemed to be just ahead of us and we were probably less than 75 yards from it and it just kept moving. It wasn't huge. I would say probably, you know, maybe size of a basketball. And do I, I can't explain what that could be. I don't know. So technically I consider that probably flying. We've had several other experiences in there, but they were different things. We'll discuss that. I guess we'll come back to that later. Another incident was I was I was driving back from one of the Great Lakes coming down the road going towards the town. It's probably around 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock at night during the fall.

So not a lot of people driving around, not tourist season, heading back towards the town where I had family and probably about 10 miles away from the town. And it's all the country and look up and I see these four lights. And they were pretty substantial. And I'm thinking in my head, I'm going, oh, they got lights on the towers on the edges of the towers for some reason. Maybe they were working on it. And then I realized there are no towers. I've never seen a tower there.

They certainly didn't build a tower with the two hours that I was up at the lake. So it just didn't make sense. And it was just sitting there. And as I got closer to it, probably three feet or so, they actually started moving. towards me. Just imagine two sets of light, one set of lights, and then behind it maybe another 50 foot, the right and left side, no more than 50 foot off the ground. And I opened up my window so I could hear. I heard no sound whatsoever. They just slowly passed over. I'm looking at my window. I lean over the passenger side and I'm looking up and I see them. And the light was

pretty bright and it lit up the inside of the car somewhat. And then I just see them take off behind me. And then I'm looking in the rearview mirror and they just cut across. It seemed like second they were miles away. And then they cut across. If I was looking at my rear view, it would have been to the left. So it would have been the passenger or the driver's side. And then the next thing I know, like not even two seconds later,

they're in front of me again coming across the road. remember a lot after that, so I don't know if I'm missing anything at the time. You know, I didn't have anybody waiting on me, so I didn't know if there's time that wasn't there, wasn't there. I don't know if I'm missing anything. I don't have any recollection of taken or anything else, but you could definitely have that feeling that whatever it was was highly intelligent. And that was pretty nerve-wracking. Yeah. Before you go any further, I just wanted to ask you, because I know I'll forget to ask this question, when it started moving towards you, and even when it loops back around or something, it's back in front of you again, all that happened after you saw it and acknowledged it was there, do you think there's a correlation? Now, what I'm saying is when you acknowledge that there's something there, how soon after you've seen it and you acknowledge it's there did it seem like it started moving towards?

to. And because, I mean, I hear people describe these things as it almost looked like it knew, I knew it was there. Is that the sense that you got? Absolutely. When it first looked, the logical mind wants to come up with an answer or a reason. What's going on here? So in my mind, I'm sitting there, okay, it's a tower and at each end of the tower, which was maybe 20, 30 foot apart, I'm thinking there's a light on each end and they're doing some work or whatever and there's two towers back to back. But then I'm like, oh, there's no towers there. I know there's no tower. I knew that area very well.

So in your mind, you're trying to come up with a reason. And then once I realize, okay, there's no towers there as I'm getting closer to this thing, now all of a sudden, I think it realized that I realized it wasn't a tower, and that's when it started moving. So I definitely feel that it was fully aware of me and what I was aware of. I think it also was aware that I was aware of them. You know, I think it was more than just them being aware of me. I think they just were like, okay, he knows we're not a tower.

Let's move. Right. Okay. I didn't mean to cut you off there. No, no, no. That's okay. That's fine. That's fine.

This time of chaos in my life, I also, when your previous listeners was saying, you know, they're on the couch and they're on the couch. had these things where I felt that whether it be a couch or bad, I've had that full body paralysis, lights and energy. Probably the last time that I can remember was probably four years ago. A lot of times followed by blood once again, which has always seemed to be a running theme. So I don't know if there's implants. I don't know if they were doing some tests.

I have no idea. When this was going on, I don't know. why I started seeing grades. It wasn't I would actually happen for some reason later on. I was having these flashes of these looking guys, probably

four and a half, five foot little guys, you know, and that little gray things. I was just seeing their cases when I came out of things or whatever. So, you know, still, even after all the stuff happens, you still sit there, okay, was it a dream?

Was it this? Was it that? and to me it would just be too much in a coincidence for my previous history to sit there and say okay yeah no that's just a you know that's just a dream you know it's just I mean these things definitely

happened one particular time I was really distraught about those things happening and a lot of other things that were happening in my life at the time and one night I was out with some friends and we were in a bar and we were drinking and my friends laughed, I didn't even realize, and I was kind of like just in a, kind of in a dark place. All of a sudden, this before me, and I'm not saying like they just

puffed up, I didn't see them coming, but all of a sudden I was stopped by this female and she was, I believe, to be Nordic and Angelic in a way. It's hard to explain, but just, blonde, perfect. And I wasn't looking at her like, oh, wow, look at this, you know, hot, babe. It wasn't anything like that. I just was like, just some kind of weird connection. And I just was like, I didn't even know what to say. And she just put her hands on my shoulders and looked at me.

And either verbally said or telepathically said, don't worry, everything's going to work out and everything's going to be okay. And I just looked at her and smiled and she smiled at me. And then just as quickly as she was there, she went off to my left, seemed to take a step past me. By the time I turned around, I didn't see her anymore. It didn't seem like anybody else was paying attention to it. Maybe they were preoccupied.

Maybe they didn't see it happen. I don't know. But that was probably the time where I just was like, you know what? combined with the other inner voice or however you can explain it with that kind of put me at ease where I was just like you know what life is life whatever comes at me I'm going to take it when it's my time to go it's my time to go I'm not going to worry myself about things that may or may not happen I'm just going to accept life for what it is and when it is.

And since then, life's been pretty good. Wow, so that was a real turning point in your life, that experience. It was. It was. You know, and not to say things still don't happen. I mean, with some of my medical issues now, you know, they're still having a hard time diagnosing. But they're putting me in the autoimmune category, multiple autoimmune, potential diseases. So, you know, that's going on, but I don't feel distraught about it.

I'm not, like, lost and feel desperate and alone. I just have this feeling of, you know, it's going to be all right. Everything's going to be all right. You know, whatever happens is meant to happen. And based on everything that had happened in the past, I truly believe that everything's going to be all right. Yeah, that's really cool, man. I mean, just, you know, having an experience that kind of turns you around and stuff is just,

that you can actually look back at and say that was a point in my life where things changed for the better. Right. That's really cool. Yeah, it was pretty... All right, so we experienced the UFO flying over. I can't remember. Do you have another experience with something along those lines?

Let me go back. Well, from the earlier, from the 70s, are we going back to that? No, I mean, well, you experienced the objects flying over when you were in your car. Was that the rectangular or a triangular shaped object that you were talking about earlier? No. No, no, no. Oh, okay. Okay, so the triangular thing was actually, I started getting very interested in the cryptid field.

And while out in the forest, various places, you know, I got similar energies that I would feel that I had with those other incidents. and, you know, I would take pictures in those areas that I was feeling the energies coming from. And in one of the pictures, one of the ones that I sent you, there's a gray triangular, kind of almost semi-trained, loosen, whatever it is. Craft, I don't know. Was it, it's kind of bizarre looking. You know, and you could feel free to post that on your page if you'd like. You know, people could look at it, pick it apart, whatever they want. The one I'm saying is I felt an energy.

That's what came out in it. The secondary picture that I sent you some faces on that area, that was definitely quite interesting as well. I didn't feel scared or worried or nervous. I always, even when I felt the energies, I would always say wherever I took direction. I took the pictures in. I'd say

out of respect for whatever it was, because I know there's things that we can't see. I'd say, I am going to take a picture in this direction where I think you may be. You can either show yourself or not show yourself, but I want to just basically,

I'm kind of asking the permission. And if you want to show yourself, just show yourself in the picture. And every time I take a picture, I say the same thing. And I just do it in different areas where I feel the energy. And quite a few times I've had items pop up, whether it be asquatch-looking bodies,

what kinds of weird things that are kind of hard to explain. Even though that little guy that I sent you a picture of that's on the crook of that tree holding that stick in his hand, that's kind of an interesting one. And there's a second picture actually in that same, I got to show you that later on and you could actually see two sets of legs sticking out in the lower left-hand corner

definitely solid and whatever it was there was pretty solid. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't people. Right. Now, since we're moving into the pictures and stuff that you sent me, there are a few pictures that I really want to hone in on and discuss with you.

because you sent me a ton, but you just mentioned one of the ones that was on my list to talk to you about, which was the being that was in a tree that you sent me. Definitely, you can see something. Obviously, it's not the clearest picture, so it's not like HD quality or anything like that, but it's definitely, there's definitely, it looks like something sitting in the tree holding a stick, like looking at you. Now, when you took that picture, did you, Did you see it while you took the picture? Did you know it was there or did you sense it? I was actually outside of my son's, he goes through an after-school program, and I was sitting outside waiting for him.

And just for some reason, I kind of felt, you know, once again, I felt that little weird, you know, energy, hey, look over there and take a picture. And I did, and sure enough, because I immediately reviewed the picture that I take, and I looked at him, and there he was. And I was like, wow, and it almost looks like he's wearing a little hat. You know, to me, that's what it looked like anyway. Yeah, to me, when I'm looking at it, it looks like he has something on his head. And it almost looks like it's longer in the back.

I don't know if that's like an arm or part of the hat. But, yeah, I mean, that's incredible. Now, when you took the picture and you saw it in the picture, obviously you look back, it's not there. You don't see it, I'm assuming, right? Correct. Correct. What did you do right after that? Did you pursue, walk over and start looking around, or did you kind of like just kind of give it space?

Or what was your reaction? Well, I said thank you. And, you know, and I decided not to, and I know people say you just take secondary. pictures just as, you know, back up to see if it's in the next shot or whatever. But the way I look at it is I want to respect whatever it is. And if it showed itself to me, kind of because I asked it to or didn't,

hey, I'm going to take a picture if you choose to show yourself, show yourself, if not, don't. I don't want to be disrespectful and just keep, you know, pounding on it and just come on give me more give me more give me more and I think that's kind of when people start having negative experiences when they ask too much or they're too demanding

and nothing is good enough for them they just got to always have the next step the next thing it's just you know I'm just grateful for you know whatever it chooses a show itself to me then I say okay well thank you and that's pretty much that

then I just kind of move on to the next thing next area. And actually the second set of pictures that I, actually, there's one group I said to, I think it was 12 pictures. And this is the same spot. Just a different, and this is the same day. And it's the lower right hand picture. And there's a little black circle around the corner of that picture.

If you can go to that, you can actually see this. two sets of legs that I was referring to. Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, so if you can kind of zoom in on it a little bit, you could see two legs and then one big leg, and they look like the little set of legs. You can kind of see there's some kind of something standing there. It's kind of being obscured by the branch.

And then the other larger one, just to the left of it, you see one leg, the V of the crotch area, and the other legs kind of out of frame. almost looks like there's something with its head sticking above that branch that's out of the way and then back behind that further on

maybe another 20 yards if you look up towards the top of that little black circle that's actually a house so someone lives back there but that's like probably 20 yards past where those legs are standing okay gotcha

So it's just once again, I mean, this was like taken probably, you know, a minute after the other one. Yeah, that's interesting. In the same cluster of photos you sent me, I wanted to talk to you about the very first one where it's a footprint with, I'm assuming, your foot next to it for gauging. I find it interesting because, now, you probably told me before, but I can't remember, so you'll have to remember. so you'll have to remind me. But I'm assuming you were doing some kind of Bigfoot research when you took this picture. Is that right? Yeah, I typically wherever I go, whether I'm with my kids or family, if we're going to be anywhere near where there's woods or forest or anything, I always keep that in mind.

I'm always looking for something. So this particular day I was with my children and we were down the, back end of this path in the park and there was this open area. Now, the dirt that we're looking at is, it's down in the south. We have this very hard dirt. It's like, they call it gumbo. When it gets dry, it's like hard like cement almost. And as you can see, this thing made a decent impression.

I don't know what it is, if that is a human. foot, that is an incredibly large human foot, because my foot's a 10 and a half, and the width of that thing and the length of that thing are pretty substantial. Yeah, I mean, looking at it, the print, I mean, if you're 10 and a half, that thing, I mean, it easily is 17, 18 inches, at least. I would agree. Absolutely huge. And what I found interesting about it was that you, you see these tire tracks that it actually steps on. And you can tell just by looking at the picture, this is hard dirt. It's not like mud. But you can see these tire tracks roll through there. And whatever it was, stepped on top of these tire tracks and actually pushed down the tracks.

And you can actually gauge it because on the left side and right side of it, the tire tracks are more raised. But where this print is, it's pushed down. So something literally had to push it down. and it's a very interesting photo you have there. Yeah, and I should have taken a couple more follow-up photos of my own footprints, but I could tell you that I didn't leave even the slightest footprint. I probably knocked down some of those raised tread marks a little bit, but other than seeing that, you wouldn't even be able to tell that I walked there. and that kind of at first I was more drawn to the animal prints which there was a bunch of those

so I was looking at those large canine and I was like okay that's really large I know we have coyote and things in that area so I was like well it's pretty pretty huge and they were probably about the size maybe a little bit smaller than my hand but not much and I was like well those are pretty big you know So that's what drew my attention. And looking, then I see that. And I was like, wow, that thing is like really huge. So I was like, okay, just put your foot next to it, take a quick reference shot. And I tried going heel to heel.

And my heel may even come a little short of the heel end of that. So I don't know. And you don't see any toes. So is it possible that it's some guy with a size 16, 18 shoe? You never know. You never know. I don't know. All I know is that it's a freakishly large footprint

and whatever it was had a substantial weight to make that impression. Yeah, no, I absolutely agree. And, you know, I often talk about how many people can actually be walking around in the woods with those size feet. You know, like, all right, so first of all, you have a footprint, a bare footprint that is huge out in the woods. So how many people are actually just walking around in the woods barefooted? And then on top of it, that big of a footprint. And, okay, so, yeah, sure, there's this really tall person walking around bare feet. Okay, cool.

But over and over again throughout the entire world. I mean, how many times do we find, how many times do we find, you know, little tiny footprints and stuff? I mean, we do. But it's like these giant footprints showing up all over the place. it's just for me it's it's it tells me there's something else going on there that's just you know my simple logic behind it and stuff so but it's it's very fascinating I agree wholeheartedly I think that you know it's you know to think that that we're the only hominids of this planet when you know there's still so much that has

You have to be discovered, whether it be in the ocean or deep dark forest, or just living on the perimeters, the perimeter of cities and towns. You know, you hear so many stories about, you know, people think you have to go 100 miles into deep forest to have these activities. But yet, 90% of your sightings are minutes outside of a town, you know, and you sit there and say, okay, well, my personal beliefs, I think, that they're incredibly curious about us. They probably know way more, but I certainly believe they know way more about us than we know about them. And they obviously have quite a bit of interest,

and they're constantly watching, constantly looking. I think they have a purpose. I'm not 100% sure what it is. I think they're kind of both pleased and disgusted with humans. I think they're pleased on the people that are trying to, to actually save the planet and care about others and not the group of what I like to call the

me people that all they care about is themselves and don't care about cutting habitat. Everything here on this earth was put here for some destruction, which I person don't believe. I think, you know, everything here is a gift. When you have a gift, you've got to treat it tenderly. So I think when people have, some folks have bad experiences, I think those energies or Sasquatch or Crips kind of giving them the old, hey, we know what you're up to and we're going to scare the life out of you right now. And that's something you need to remember.

Stay out of the forest, stay away from our home and quit destroying things. And then other people who don't have such horrific experiences still may be scared, still they'd be worried, but I think, you know, they're kind of more gentle with those folks. And if that makes any sense or not. No, yeah, absolutely makes sense. I mean, there's just so many different ideas out there as far as what these things are, how they react. Nobody has an answer.

So, I mean, all we can do is theorize about what we think they could be. And I've heard people talk about that before. Absolutely makes sense. Yeah. Now, with that triangle grayish picture, and then there was another one that I had sent you with that. That was in that same area where that big face is dead center. Now, I believe that is a Sasquatch. I think it presented itself this way to me.

you know, I've going back years and years and years I've spent a lot of time out in the forest every time I could get out of the city go up into the mountains all over the out of Rondacks, Catskills,

Pennsylvania, New England, pretty much anywhere where I could get into the forest you know, with friends or by myself. You know, 18 years old, I went into the Appalachian Trail by myself and I went there for

a little over a week just to kind of get away, hike, be one with nature. And I remember hearing, you know, things banging, and, oh, it's probably someone building a house, you know, and like, well, you know, you're 10 miles into the forest, you know, you really think sounds good. But back then, you know, I didn't really realize a lot of these noises I was hearing was probably tree knocking, rock clacking.

I've heard the mumbling voices when you hear the talking, but you can't make out what they're saying. You know, what was it? I don't know. at that time cryptid didn't even pop into my mind but now looking back

at it like oh they probably were you know making themselves known to me back then and I just wasn't open to it and I'm more open I'm to it I see that you know when I take a photo

themselves or something else will yeah I mean it's definitely an interesting picture with the big face that you sent me it's a very first picture you sent me it looks like

it looks like a face and if you you know there's so much debate going on about the whole woo stuff and the cloaking stuff but if this was a big foot it would have to be cloaking

because it's transparent and the that's you know my conclusion is you know if it is what you know, it looks like it would have to be cloaking. There's really no other explanation other than maybe has some kind of way, like, you know, a reptile does where it can kind of change the way it looks to blend in.

But either way, you're talking about the woo topic, which is just a highly debated topic and everybody gets all up in arms about. They do. And I can understand logically doesn't make sense. But, you know, there's actually a video on YouTube. I believe it's either Afghanistan or Iraq. And I don't know who was taking the video, whether it was our guys or their guys.

But there's this battle going on. And in the battle, you kind of see this, you know, and Predator, when he cloaks, you kind of see that type of thing quickly running. And there's some kind of explosion or something. And you see this cloaked, whatever it was, running across towards soldiers and then running back the other way. Now, if it was still, you wouldn't have been able to see it.

So I believe we possess technology that can physically make that happy, the appearance of cloaking happen. Did we copy that from nature or something else? you know, we're supposed to be working with entities, you know, our scientists, a government, who's to say that Sasquatch, and I've heard some people refer to one group called the ancient ones, and then some are considered more Sasquatch, even with a very similar in appearance. You know, who knows if they're from the same place and they're working with our government as well. I've heard stories from guys on military bases security that were briefed on.

Hey, when you see these things crossing the fence crossing over, leave them alone. They belong here and just go on your way. And they've been told, you know, leave them alone. Don't bother them. And I've talked to guys who were briefed on those things. And they didn't report them because they knew. Stay away from it. That topic you want to talk about.

about. So you actually talk to people who, uh, were told to leave these things alone. Uh, did they tell you where this took place? There, there was one guy who was somewhere in Florida, who wouldn't specify where. And I was say there's another place somewhere out west, major details, but they said that when they were on, um, on duty, um, basically keeping that. And they said that they even with their camera systems at the time, could see the heat signatures and

okay let's go check it out and they got within a certain distance that you know okay back off and they you know stood down basically because they knew that okay these they're supposed to be here and this is not something you're supposed to mess with them, go into a lot of detail

say okay this is what it is military hey listen to what I say do what I say and don't ask a lot of questions and you'll be all right. And, you know, I'm sure if you progress with this show, you'll possibly have some folks that were directly given that order. And, you know, they could probably give you a little more information than I could on that. Okay. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Florida, and I think, have you ever heard the show Sasquatch Chronicles? I mean, with West German.

I've probably listened to an episode or two, but I, I, I've not listened to a lot of podcasts, you know, being born the year that I was born and, you know, kind of little weird old school, like I'm still listening to A-Tracks. I'm joking about that, but, you know, I'm still not as technically savvy as a lot of people. So I just kind of, you know. But I started listening to some shows, and that's definitely piquing my interest. And it's a good place to get information for sure. Yeah, I bring it up because you mentioned about Florida. And I can't remember. I think it was recently he had a guest on.

And it might have been a repeat guest or a second guest with a similar story. But I think they were talking about a military base in Florida that had these Sasquatch creatures. frequenting on and off the property. It sounds very familiar, similar to what you just described to me. I wonder if it's the same facility. It could very well be. I know they have a few facilities there that are just absolutely enormous. There was one, if you remember, the crocodile hunter, Steve Irwin.

He went to one of the bases that was just so, massive, I mean, it was, I don't know the actual size, but they said it was like just an absurd amount of acreage. And, you know, a lot of it was forest, lakes, ponds, retention, and stuff like that, and probably canals. And, you know, so, you know, they could easily be a huge population there. and being told, hey, you know, leave these things alone, don't mess with them, you know. So it very well could be the same place. Yeah, I mean, I'll have to look into that and see if I can dig that up and just for my own references. And I'll post these pictures that we're discussing on the website for other people to kind of check out and see.

The last set of pictures that I'd like to talk to you about is the last ones you sent me, it's these prints that you found. It looks like they're on cement that you see the heel, but they're all three-toed prints. Where did you find that? Right. This is actually at my brother's house. He lives closer to New York City,

and he and his wife had been looking for some property that they could kind of get away and, you know, get away from the city. So he bought some property with a cabin directly backed up to the Appalachian Trail. And when he was probably the first six months he was, you know, phased in the house. Now, these photos are actually a week older than the original ones. He can't find the original ones. And he said they lost probably 20, 30 percent of their original size.

So slowly with time, whether sun bleaching or whatever, rain, they just diminished in size so much. So this is about a week later. And this is just right outside of his garage. So it's probably less than 10 feet from the house. Wow. And with three toes, I don't know any animal that has such a wide stance or any mammal with three toes. I may be wrong, but I don't think so. And some of them you can see the stride. Yeah.

Right, exactly. And that's what I was thinking just now is you see the trackway, the stride. Did you get a chance to measure that stride length? You know, I didn't, but I'm sure someone had some kind of a computer program because my brother's foot size is a size 11th. So if you could use that dimension, you could probably get a very accurate measurement between the stride. But I did not measure that. Okay. And that's very helpful. Because you see the shoe sitting next to the footprint. And the shoe's slightly larger than the footprint. So I would say that this track is probably 10, 10 and a half inches. But it's very peculiar. Now, when you were looking at the trackway, could you tell if it was like a bipedal or

quadrupede? It was definitely by people for sure. And actually, just a few months later, I want to say this was in spring of last year. And then we went up the Fourth of July weekend. And on the actual Fourth of July evening, we were hanging out, and I was out on his deck of the house. And I was just kind of hanging out there. by myself and I heard a little like a snap, like a tree branch or something snapping.

So I have this pretty high-powered flashlight. So I zing the light over and I see these two massive eyes looking at me. I mean, they were huge and they were just, you know, I want to say maybe 10, 11 inches apart. and they were just big and it was tall whatever it was and as it was walking the whole time

it had its eyes rayed on me so as it was walking up through the woods it was looking down directly at me and I didn't see a lot of bobbing or moving it seemed pretty

uniform and seemed almost like it was gliding and then it stopped and it just sat there and stared at me so I was like whoa So I knocked on the door and I told my brother to come out. He came out and he looked at it.

He's like, wow, this is crazy. And this went out for half an hour. And then my brother-in-law came out. My sister came out. My kids were too scared to leave. My wife, she didn't want to see it. And my brother's wife, I don't remember if she saw it or not, but I don't think she was either interested or did not want to see it.

I'm not 100% sure. That for a little bit. You know, fireworks, and someone fairly close, because there's only a few houses on the mountain, someone blew up something really large. I don't know if it was like a rock buster or something, maybe a homemade device. And I remember I was startled, and whatever the thing was, you could tell the start of it kind of crouched down a little, and all of a sudden you heard, like, just breaking, and then it got quiet again. and then I kept looking and then boom there they were again the eyes are back looking at us again

and this went out at least a half an hour maybe even a little longer and I was talking to it and I was like hey I see you out there I said and we mean you know harm I don't know what you are who you are or what's going on I said but you know we're not going to cause you any harm and we just ask you to be respectful of us as well you know don't scare anybody. We're not going to cause you any problem. And then just after a little bit, it just kind of walked off, and that was the end of it. And it was, uh, I mean, looking right at us the whole time. It was crazy. And that was the last fourth of July, it was pretty much. Let me ask you, this whole situation that you experienced. So the lights, or not the lights,

the eyes are, you know, 10, 11 inches apart. That's the first thing, obviously, you notice because you hit it with the flashlight. Could you see the body or the outline of the body at all? You know, for a second I thought I saw when there was movement, it was big. I mean, the next day I went up to where it was in that area, because there's another house just up past there. So there's probably 150 foot of woods between the two driveways and maybe 300 foot between the houses. So this thing was in the wood line. I could see where it was.

I went up there and looked and based on where I was standing and I saw the eyes, this guy had to bend seven and a half, eight and a half foot tall. There's no doubt in my mind that's how tall this thing was. and based on the eyes being far apart. They were both forward-facing eyes. It was like a yellowish green and highly reflective, almost glowing. It's very interested in us.

Now, typically a deer, I've seen bear out in the wild. I've seen Bobcat and, you know, deer and every other kind of animal you can imagine. And, you know, they'll show interest for, a short while. But over half an hour, never have I ever had an experience with an animal. Even the bear that I saw was, you know, 100 yards away.

I was by myself backpacking. You just kind of looked up at me and just looked back down and just kept going down the hill and going to whatever kind of abundant food source that was looking for and left me alone the whole time. Whatever this was was definitely intelligent. hearing this story that you just shared and looking at these pictures of these tracks i know it's all conjecture and you really can't say for sure but what's your gut feeling do you think that the tracks where this came from this thing that you saw walking at your brother's house

i think it's related uh i think it's either that particular thing that we were looking at or family of because whatever else could be by peel that big, have that big of a stride, that wide of a footprint. And just remember, that had been, those footprints had been sunbleached for a week. So they had lost some of their mass. You know, when my brother first saw them, he was kind of shocked how big they were. And he called him, he was like, dude, you're not going to believe this. Because he had known, I've discussed a lot of.

of the Sasquatch topic with him. I've seen some pretty cool videos. That one video that you've made reference to the white Sasquatch in Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah. You know, I kind of became a little bit of a, not a fanatic, but just kind of highly interested in it. And I just, you know, believe that there's definitely way more to it than most people are willing to believe. You were talking about it, so he knew, okay, I'm the person to call and talk to.

Absolutely. And with that, you reference that white Bigfoot video. I've been out for a while and it's my favorite video and it's probably has a lot to do because it's from PA and so am I. But there's a guy on YouTube. His name is Bigfoot Tony. He's over in England and he does a lot of video analyzation and he enhanced that video. I encourage everybody to go check it out.

Go check out that video enhancement that he made. He just posted it maybe a week or two ago. But it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Definitely check that out. Yeah, investment we didn't do that. Yeah, so, I mean, clearly there's something bipedal walking around. You saw something walking around.

You got these incredible footprints. And I've never seen anything quite like it. I mean, and I'm looking at the picture itself, and that's stride length. I mean, it's pretty big. And it looks like it's different, though. Like, the stride lengths differ where there's one long stride length. length and then after that there's a shorter stride length and then so I don't know if it was like walking funny or what I don't know but it's very interesting but uh yeah Don I think it is and what

it entered my mind I'm sorry Tony I would enter my mind when I saw that uh that difference in stride length it was like I was thinking okay maybe something piqued its interest and it shortened its stride for a second to look because at the time they were not in their house so no one was there on the property at all. And so they had run of the property. So maybe he saw a rabbit, maybe he saw something else, whatever it was, piquitous interest, and took a shorter stride, and then the next couple steps got longer and longer.

Also, I'll let you know that he has this driveway alarm, that if anything crosses the driveway, it will alarm. during this same night 4th of July it was going off all night is are there gear crossing yeah there are some gear crossing here in there

but the the one night that was pretty substantial there was a lot of movement that crossed that electric beam so you know that's just something else

because it definitive this is what it was no it's not but if you put everything together between footprints the odds and this, you know, the snapping of the twigs, the Fourth of July explosion and the thing kind of was startled, you know, it just kind of, to me, adds up to something.

For sure, absolutely. I mean, it's just something funny's going on, you know, and, you know, you're left drawing your own conclusions, but when you see the pictures and you have the story of those, those eyes that you saw, it's definitely, to me, there's, there's, you know, there's, Sounds like something's going on. Yeah. To wrap things up, now, I know you've had a lot of experiences, and we could probably talk for hours about a lot of different things. But one thing I definitely wanted to kind of come back to is, and maybe this will help tie things up. I have no idea, so I could be wrong by saying that.

But you mentioned earlier to me before we came on about how your son has either seen something or is seeing things. Would you like to talk about that at all? Yeah. I think my youngest is we, before the house we live in now, we lived in a house just down the road. And it had an upstairs and a downstairs. So the kids' bedrooms were upstairs and our bedroom was downstairs. They never wanted to sleep in that room. When I later on, we moved into the new house, I asked my son Christopher, yeah, Daddy, there was a There was this black with red eyes, always at the top of the stairs, trying to get me to come up. So I was scared.

That's why I always, my older son never verbalized that to me. But when he was really young, he used to look at something that we couldn't see. And he would laugh and laugh and laugh and look at it and point at it. But he still, to his day, is not verbalized what that was. But moving into our new house, he has seen that same entity. And I don't know what it was, but it was terrifying to him where he was coming over to our room. And he saw it over by our living room, over by our dog's kennel. And it was just standing there and looking at him.

So I listen. I don't sleep very well, and I hear a lot of the noise so I can hear him just running. and he just dives into bed with my wife and myself. And it got the point what was happening so often. I started, you know, like looking for answers where we're dealing with here. You have the red eyes. When I hear that, blowing red eyes, I typically think of evil, demonic. I may be wrong.

I don't know. But that's kind of, and I felt kind of weird energies, it just would never show itself to me. So I looked around and I tried to find some answers. So one of the solutions that came to me was smudging. The native folks, First Nation folks, and other folks have used it for many years. I figured if it was good enough for them, I'm going to try it as well. And as I waited for my whole family to be out of the house, smudged the whole house, and I actually felt the energy was not happy with my whole, like, all the hair of my body.

He stood up as I cleared each room, but I just did it in God's name, and I just means you're not welcome here. This house is a house of light. It's the house of God. You need to leave now, and I just cleared each room, each closet, the water inside, outside, around each window, each door. And since then, we've not had a physical entity come in. He says that sometimes it comes to me as dreams to do there. that was a pretty for him.

Yeah, I'm sure. Now, you said that so basically this entity happened or showed itself in both different houses, right? Correct. Okay.

And how old is your son? Right now he's seven. So it's been happening since he's about. One of the things that I know a lot of the stuff that happens sometimes is generation to generation to generation.

I know I had a lot of bizarre experiences, not necessarily blowing red eyes, but just that and the other things. I think a lot of those things can happen generation to generation really follow. Sam's around that energy. Come here because of me, possibly. I don't know. Before I put him to bed, I say a prayer. I, you know, try to put his mind at ease, let him happy things know that God's with him. And, you know, always say, hey, when you're in your dreams, if it comes to, you.

you and your dream, just think of, you know, surround yourself with light and with the love of God and just tell him he cannot be here. He's got to go now. And he's starting to do that and says that sometimes it will be a little. Okay. Yeah, that's very interesting. And it's always one of those things where with kids, it's very sensitive. I mean, it's one thing for you to sit here and tell me things that you're experiencing as an adult or even have experienced as a child, but then it's a whole other thing when you're sitting here telling me this is happening to my child who is not even 10 years old. You know, that's, it's messed up.

I mean, like, it's like, it's just one of those things where we just would be like, let the kid alone, you know? And it makes, it's really, it's crazy feelings right now, but, uh, they, when he expressed that to me and I saw the tire and his, this is what lies, um, you know, as a father, I'm very, where I didn't get that from my father. My father could have cared less whether I lived or died. And I don't carry any negativity about that. But I knew it was wrong then, and I know I'm highly protective and loving of my family

and would lay my life down without even thinking about it to protect them and save them. So when something like this happens, you know, could be devastating. But I'm typically a person of action, and I was like, okay, so what do I got to do? So checking around and doing this and doing that and falling back on things I've heard and things I've seen and things I've been taught,

you know, just kind of pointed me in that direction. Continued after that, I was going to go and have some professionals come and handle it. And I'm not talking like paranormal researchers. I'm talking more. along the religious line, having a priest or a pastor or somebody come out and cleanse the house and bless the house and all that. But it seems physically it has not been back into the house since I've, at least not that we're aware of since I've cleansed the house.

Okay. Wow. Yeah, man. That's some heavy stuff, especially when it's happening in your blood. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is.

You know, before we get out of here, do you have any parting words you'd like to share with people that maybe are experiencing similar things that, you know, either currently experiencing things that you are or even have in the past? I mean, just to summarize things, would you have anything that you'd like to share with people? Yeah, I'd like to, you know, let folks know that if you are having to have. having any experiences that you're unsure of let that affect your psyche, you've got to realize that you have to use it. Don't be scared of it. Research, find out, educate yourself. You know, like I said, when I was younger, I was terrified. I mean, the first time I saw a ghost, I was horrified.

I mean, I remember it like it was yesterday. I was at my uncle's house and someone broke out of the jail close by, so that, they, They were all out and they called the house and said, okay, someone broke out locked the door. So I went over to lock the door and there was these little paintings of glass and I looked out. There was just, I kind of looked like he was wearing Civil War garb and he was looking up the road. And then it turned around and locked eyes with me. And I just remember my hair stood up and I just was terrified. And I just ran, jump behind the couch, put blankets up on myself.

I was hiding. You know, now that I see in here stuff, It doesn't affect me that way. I'm not scared anymore. I'm not scared, and I think that, you know, that gives it energy. When you allow yourself to feel those emotions, I think it gives whatever, anything negative, it gives it energy. And that's certainly something you don't want to do.

And education is a way to go because you can learn how to handle those things. And I'd also like to say, thank you to you and your show, what you're doing. and I recommend other folks step forward and tell their stories. Right on, man. I recommend the same thing, definitely, because we just, we want to share people's stories and give them a platform to be heard on. It's something that I,

I'm a big fan of the Sasquatch Chronicles show. It's kind of the first podcast ever listed to personally. And that's the common theme that I heard on that show where people were saying that, excuse me, people were saying that it's, therapeutic for them to actually share their story and get it off their chest. And that's exactly why I named the show the way I named it, the confessionals. It's literally people coming forward,

confessing what they saw, what they've experienced, getting it off their chest by telling somebody, telling people, and moving on or diving more into the topic. You know, because sometimes people, by able to expressing it to somebody, they're able to then dive more into it and try to figure out what they experienced because now they got past the initial, oh my gosh, I experienced that. Who do I talk to? And now they're able to move forward with it. And some people do the exact opposite. They share their experiences. And it's like, okay, I actually feel better now and I can move on in life. So yeah, I really appreciate that, man, because, you know, there's a lot of people out there experiencing things that they just, they have no idea, they have no clue what

they experienced and they have no idea how to even go about talking to somebody about it. And they're just kind of like left living with, you know, post-traumatic stress syndrome, really. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, Don, I really appreciate you coming on. Thanks for sharing what you shared. And, you know, maybe we'll have you on again sometimes to share more of your stories that you've had.

I have a whole bunch more for you, Tom. Oh, I'm sure. It would be a pleasure to come back on. Absolutely, man. All right, brother. Well, I'll talk to you later, okay? All right. Sounds good.

Thank you so much. All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, I would really appreciate it if you would rate and review the show on whatever podcatcher you listen to the show on. It could be iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, tune in, pod bean. It doesn't matter to me. But if you listen to the show on a podcatcher, I would really appreciate it if you rated and reviewed the show there. If you want to go to the website,

I have posted the pictures that me and Don were talking about tonight. So feel free to do so at the Confessionalspodcast.com. And tonight's exiting song was written and performed. by David from last week's show. I thought it was a great song and I definitely wanted to play for you guys to hear. So I hope you guys have a great week. I hope you guys stay safe. And I'll see you next Saturday night right here on The Confessionals. I would dedicate the song to you. Could I forever all our days filled with laughter? That's a side song. As a side song filled my heart, Could it be the sadness plays the part of making one feet? A spark that sets the blaze.

I will be the wind that burns. All to begin with my arm. Night so you can hold me. But it's a sad song. A thought song filled my heart. Could it be the sadness plays the part? It'll be the spark that sets the blaze. I will be the wind that fans.

All to begin. Fingers in my sad song. But it's a sad song. A song filled my heart. Could it be the sadness play? A dark that sets the blade. I will be the wind of fans. All to begin again.

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