The Confessionals - 31: I Killed Bigfoot

Episode Date: August 19, 2017

Brian lives in southern Ohio near the West Virginia border, where he has seen the creature known as Bigfoot on several occasions. During his third encounter, Brian's experience turned unpleasant when he found himself in a dangerous situation. While hunting for turkey, he drew the attention a Bigfoot that was not happy to see him. Faced with a decision to make, Brian knew it was either him or this giant creature that was going to die. So, he raised his gun and fired. Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel Tony's Instagram: tony_merkel Tony's Facebook: www.facebook.com/tbmerkel Outro: DJ Schmolli - Rock Of Ages (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-8Rd9QBlJI )

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It's called probing. For the rest of the front. You guys hear that? Welcome to this show, everybody. I'm your host, Tony Merkel, and I am really glad that you're here. And I'm really glad to be here. Tonight we have a great show coming up. But before we get into that, I'd like to let you know.

If you've had an encounter of any kind, it does not matter to me if it's Bigfoot, Dogman, ghosts, Alien, UFO, it doesn't matter to me what you've seen. But if you've experienced it and you want to get on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email at the Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's the Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. Or you can go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the connection section, and you can reach me that way as well. I also want to remind you that we do have memberships now on the website.

It's $3 a month. And with that $3 a month, you're going to get one extra episode. a month at least, plus extra content when it arrives. So if you're interested in becoming a member, go ahead and check out the website, the membership section, and sign up and see what it's all about. Now, tonight's show is going to be a very controversial show. Some of you that listen to my show on a regular basis are very much into the topic of Bigfoot, and with that comes a lot of ideologies and philosophies that you hold, which is very respectable. One of the things that is very much debated in the Bigfoot community is, do you or do you not kill a Bigfoot if you,

you see it. Tonight's show tackles that topic from a perspective that some of you might be offended by. Tonight we bring on Brian, who actually claims to have killed a Bigfoot, and he comes on to share his story. Now, I want to let you know that tonight's show has a language and content warning. So if you are somebody who does not want to hear bad language or extreme content, then you might want to turn off this episode. And if you have children that typically listen to our show and you don't want them to hear what we're about to talk about, I would highly suggest that maybe they exit the room right now. Without any further delay, let's bring on Brian and talk to him about the day he killed a Bigfoot. Okay, tonight I have a great guest coming on, Brian. Brian and I connected

on Facebook not too long ago, and I saw Brian in a group talking about some things, and I just had to get a hold of him to, you know, just find out exactly what was going on. on his property. Brian lives in Southern Ohio. Brian, how are you tonight? Oh, man, I'm doing great. That's awesome, man. So we were talking online a little bit here and there, and I decided to bring you on tonight and just to have you tell your story of what the heck was going on on your property and it's still going on today. But basically, if you could, just walk us in from the beginning. How'd you find out Bigfoot was on your property? Well, to be honest, it's my first sighting.

I was about 14 years old, being two of my buddies. I really don't want to give any addresses or exact locations to the property. That's just because all the idiots. Now, if they were real Bigfoot researchers, I wouldn't remind mine too much. but we all know how idiots can be. It all started about when I think I was about 14 or 15, me and two buddies. We were on some trails, and across the, oh, I'd say it was about 1,000 yards away. We seen something that kind of looked like a bear moved through the woods,

and I yelled up my buddy, and I said, hey, what the hell is doing? that. And we sat there watching it and all of a sudden just stood up and looked like a man. And we sat there, we're not even sure if it even realized that we were even there because we were scared to death at that time. And that was the first time I ever seen a red one. But still today, well, later on I figured out what it was, but for the longest time, we cannot believe what it was. Okay. So how far exactly was it away from you? Oh, about a thousand yards. See, we was on one side of the hill, then it broke down into a big valley, then it went up on the other side of the hill, and it was walking right to left, dead center in the middle of the hill that you got to understand this.

It was dead winter. So all the trees, all the plants, everything, it was clear. It was clear-cut woods. could see right into it. At first, we thought it was a bear. Then all of a sudden, it just stood up and walked off. And I've always hunted ever since I was 10 years old. And I told my buddies, I was like, for one, we don't have brown bear in the state of Ohio. And for two, they don't move like that.

But I never, it never comprehend that it was an actual big foot that we've seen. That happened years later. That was the first time you saw a Bigfoot on your property. Yeah. Is that the same property that you were on now? Well, actually, that one, he wasn't exactly on the property. See, we moved away. Then when my mom had to move back to the same road that the property was on that way,

I seen the first one, she had bought property on that road. And the distance apart between what? we started seeing them like five years ago is only three miles away. So the first sighting was not on our property. That happened years later. Okay, I gotcha. So it was in the same area, though. Yes. Yeah, three miles away. Gotcha. All right, so that was the first time you saw one. What happened next? Like, what brought, what brought them to your attention on your property years later? well she bought the property she needed help moving in and stuff and i just went to a bad breakup so i moved in long enough to help her everything was going okay never even thought of it i mean i wasn't even thinking big put

sitting out on the porch smoking the cigarette you know just watching traffic going by you know just being bored and right about dark i heard the longest loudest how I've ever heard in the woods. And I was thinking, what the hell is that? And it was roughly about this time of year, actually. Then in the evenings, we'd hear it. Then it was getting louder, than louder, then louder, then louder. Then we'd know this city town bags of dog food,

with brand new bags of dog food would disappear overnight. And stuff rattling in the trash cans. something sounded, and they call them wolves, but I thought, I was, what the hell was making that? So one night I got up, I grabbed a high-powered rifle, walked out on the porch, hit the spotlight, and there was standing there in the field. Same damn thing I seen 10 years later. And I thought, what the hell? That's somebody goofing off. Somebody in the monkey's seat trying to scare them to crap out of people.

exactly what I thought it was. Then hunting season came in. Then that's when he got real close. He was probably nine foot tall, probably about five foot wide, and I was turkey hunting, and I was in solid camo, right up against the tree. I blended in so perfect that human could walk by, not even know I was there. 12-gauge shotgun, semi-automatic camouflage. I was camouflaged.

head to toe, man. I looked like a moving tree through the woods. Got closer, got closer, got closer. When he got about 15 yards away from me, I raised that 12 gaze and I blowed its head off. And that would be my third encounter. So when you saw it coming close to you, you knew it wasn't somebody,

so you knew what it was. Oh, yeah. I could see parts of facial features. And like I was telling you earlier, everybody knows that Patterson video that is the closest video on a YouTube or wherever that I can sign

that I can tell you what I seen what was in that video then years ago is the same thing I shot right between the eyes and I tell you what I used 1187 with a 3-inch turkey choke tube

and 3-5-inch nitrous turkey banks I'm telling you it will destroy anything within 10-yard radius says right on a box. Guarantee to kill anything within 10 yards. And I hit him at 15 yards, one shot for dead center right in the face. I blowed his whole face off. So when you were out there, were you actually out there for Bigfoot reasons or were you actually hunting? No, I was turkey hunting. It was April.

Turkey season was kicked in in the hunt. Yeah, I've been stalking this great big monster. gobbler. I've been trying to bust him for years. I had my decoy set up. I'm sitting there just being dead silent, total camouflage. I was totally blended in. I was sitting there busting off on a box car. And I could hear that turkey goblin. And he was coming, I think. I'm pretty sure. And just instantly, just shut up. I cracked it again. I cracked it again. Then 150 yards and front of me. Something moving,

something big, heavy. You just see the trees moving. And I thought, oh my God, here it is turkey season. Here comes out

big monster, 12 point everybody's doing. Then I've seen what it was. Then it was probably about 40 yards, and I tried to scare it off because I didn't want to shoot it.

I don't know what the hell it was. And so I moved. And when it seen me move, it took like aggressive stance and it just kept coming closer and I even was like, hey, hey, get out of here, get. You know, just trying to just get it away. Nope, when he got about 15 yards

and looked at me and made this gargling growl sound, I just hit the trigger. I was all right. To me, I made up my mind. Well, it's either going to be him or me and I'm damn sure they're going to be me because I had five rounds in that 12th. gauge and I had to put all five in him but at one done it he went straight back and did not move i

literally blew half his head off so when you saw this thing coming you actually felt threatened it wasn't like he was just walking by you aimlessly and you decided to just rip its head off with a gun or anything at first it was then it got more of like a squared up body by like somebody being real pissed off it's about to charge you, you know, like someone about to run up and spear the living shit out of you. That's how it looked. And it was gargling, shaking trees, rowling, making all kinds of weird sounds. And they got too close, so I blowed it to that off. Wow.

All right. So this is, I'm trying to take all this in. When you, when you shot this thing, it was 15 yards away, did it, when it, when it dropped, Maybe 20, maybe 15, in between 15 and 20 to be 100% sure. But I went in line and getting close. That thing would have grabbed a hole to me. It ripped me in half. Yeah, you said it was 9 feet, right?

Like I said, man, I think had to be, oh, yeah, roughly 9 feet. At least 5 foot wide had arm size of tree trucks. The thing was a monster. It was belt. I mean, it kind of looked like King Kong staring you down. It was so damn big. And plus I was sitting on the ground. with my back to a tree.

So I made at least look three, three or four foot taller, but it really wasn't. But, you know, imagine sitting down and staring straight up out of Bigfoot. That pretty much how it was. And he wouldn't have been afraid of me.

So I shot it. Yeah, I mean, when you're in that kind of situation, I know you've gotten a lot of flak from people in the Bigfoot community for, you know, probably putting one down.

And I know there's a lot of people with strong opinions on that. Oh, yeah, they're a bunch of cry-baby wusses, and I ain't afraid to say it on your radio show. All of them can kiss my ass. If I'm ever out in the woods again, I get one 15, 20 yards in front of me. I'm throwing rocks at it. I'm throwing sticks. I don't care.

If I got something in my hands, I'm blown it, said, too close? No, it ain't happening. Because you never know. I mean, you know, 15, 20 yards, and they say them things can run 30, 40, 40, my own hour in the house last, you think it can grab me and shake me to death, rip me in half, do whatever. I mean, hell still today, Pete, think about this. People got missing in our woods, deep in our woods every year, at least 30, 40 people,

and they never find a chase of them. Yeah, and with your experience, you haven't had all that great of experiences with these things. So, you know, naturally, I think that, you know, you would feel, threatened by these things. I wanted to ask you, when this thing drops to the ground and it's gone, like the way you described it, it was dead before it hit the ground. What'd you do after that? Did you walk over to it? Did you examine the body? Oh, yeah. I walked over and checked it out. So what did you do? I mean, did you just leave the body there? Did you try to preserve the body? What was your plan after you saw? Oh, no, no, no, no. I was sitting there looking over top of it.

I was about to nail down and touch it. And on top of the hill, I heard it. I heard it sound like something that was up there, just beating the living crap out of the tree. So there was more than one of them. And I figured, well, I've only got so much ammo that I can throw at them. And I don't, I didn't know how many that was actually up there. So I really slowly and carefully backed out of them ones.

Then I went and called a bunch of my buddies and told them what had happened. They told me I was smoking way too much pot that day, and I was nuts, and I said, well, bring the AK-47 over here, and let's go back up there, and I will point it out to you. So me and some of my buddies,

we went back up there with AK-47s, and something had drugged the body at least 300 foot. But when we got there, we followed the drag marks straight up a real steep hill. then we found we found it and I said right there's what I shot and they couldn't believe it then we started hearing more and more noises so we backed out real easily then I tried to contact I think it's oh what's that big foot research people BFRO yeah I contacted them idiots then they sent someone out the next day they wouldn't even

go to woods they was the damn sure I was like, come up here and I want to show you this big foot. There's fresh blood, there's hair. You guys can have a field day. And they looked at me and they said, well, you're walking up there. I was like, well, why not? They said, after you shot one? Hell no.

Best thing you can do is stay out of the woods. I thought, okay, oh, well, just go on. Fuck you in, you know. Then the very next day, three blacked out SUVs pull up and a game warning track pulled up. so somebody had turned me in for having it and I told them what had happened

I told them what had done and they said you idiot do you realize you shot the number one most endangered species in the United States of America and that is federal law you can and will go to jail

I said it got 15 yards away from me it got a I had a 12 gauge. Sorry about your luck. Put me in jail. They said prove it. Took them up there. They took hair.

They took blood. They took all kinds of stuff. They took pictures. They photographed everything. I showed them where I was sitting because I had moved the leaves. You know, I was buried in there putting, you know, a few. Because I was trying to blend in best I could. Because that's what you have to do when you're hunting a mature goblin.

it's been hunting before. Slightest little movement, the slightest little thing. You've got to have scent protection on. You've got to have the whole nine yards to kill these goblers down here. And that's exactly what I was doing. I gave him a hunting license, turkey tag. I was fully legit. I was everything was perfect.

And I showed them what it happened. I showed them what it did. And they said, the next time, that I shoot one, I'd better be prepared to prove that I was only dissented myself. Because that, he was, he was a game warden, but he said he was, oh, an investigator for the Federal Wildlife Game Protection, something like that. He wasn't exactly a game warden, but he worked in that field, and he was an agent for him, but they had a game warden with them, and they let me go.

They said, just don't ever do it again. Well, I each time they want them gets 15 yards from me. I'm blowing its head off too. I don't care. Don't bother me one bit. Yeah. Let me ask you with them telling you that, now, hold on a second, you said there was the Ranger, the Park Ranger, and two other people showed up.

Is that right? Three. Now I take that back. There was four of them. They pulled up in three vehicles. Two blacked out SUVs in the game where I remember seeing them, but I think there was another truck that pulled in as well. But I remember seeing them.

We walked up there, showed them everything. They took a shit time of pictures. They took hair, and they took blood, and they said, don't ever do it again. Never seen or heard from them before then, and ain't seen them since then. Did they show you any identification? Oh, yeah. They were federal officers.

And I said, well, I thought Bigfoot was immense. They said, no, stupid. They actually exist. And I said, well, why don't you just come out publicly and tell people that these things? Their excuse was, we're afraid it would cause widespread panic. And we can't be having that. And we can't be having you damn rednecks in the woods shooting them. So that's why we pretend that they don't exist, but they do.

And they're endangered species and they're protected by federal law. Do it again. I will put you in a bottom of federal prison and no one will ever hear from you again. And I said, okay, understood. And they just got in their vehicles and less like it never even happened. Let me ask you, did they tell you how they would put you in prison? I mean, because these things aren't supposed to exist and they're theoretically just myths, how are they going to put you away for something?

Technically, they are known as a endangered species and they're protected by federal law. It falls under the same principle as me going out here and shooting a bald eagle. But that's what I'm saying, though. Like, they're telling us that these things don't exist and now they're telling you that they're protected species. How can they protect the species that doesn't exist? Well, the way he explained that he said they're detected species, but we deny it. So people ain't out there intentionally trying to hunt them and kill them. And they said they're afraid of widespread panic, which there's some reason that they just don't want to flat out emit it.

But there's other states that have meant to them being there. Right. Yeah. I know it's like half omitting where these states, some of these states will. come out and give you a little piece of the pie kind of thing. They'll put a little... Well, I was always told there's a area

down there in California, and they make these little pamphlets, and it shows all the native animals, and Bigfoot is actually one of their native animals that they mentioned, and it is a federal document. But if you shoot one, it's the same

loss as shooting a bald eagle or anything like that. See, like in a high, you're not allowed to shoot a black bear. We know they're here. We occasionally see them, but they're not supposed to be here in Ohio, but they just recently turned some loose,

and if you get busted shooting one, same thing. Same thing. Five years in prison, it's a $50,000 fine, and you're not allowed to hunt for 10 years, and you're not allowed to have a gun because it falls under federal law.

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Special financing subject to credit approval, minimum monthly payments required. See store for details. So when they went up there to look at the kill site, was the body still there? No, it was gone. Okay, so the other ones must have taken it away. Yep. Well, let me ask you.

I have no idea. I have no idea what happened to it. I don't know if some of my buddies came, some of my buddies came back and stole the damn thing, for as far as I know, or they could have told somebody else where it was at. They could have stole it, stole it. Or the Bigfoot research team could have came back and nabbed it. Anybody could have went up her and grabbed that thing,

as long as they just knew where it was. Woods are pretty cleaned out. It wasn't real hard to get to. It was only 500 yards from the house when I shot it. Wow. What year was this again? 2013, 2013. Okay.

So it wasn't that long ago. I think it was April 25th, 2013. Because turkey season hadn't been in that long. I'm pretty sure. Okay, got you. So this whole thing happens. You see this thing coming at you. It looks threatening.

You shoot it and kill it. And you go over and examine the body. but before you really could do much, you heard the other ones making noise. You decided to back out of there. When you were near the body, though, what did the hair and facial features look like? Well, that was a problem.

He didn't have any more facial features. I fixed that problem, Gordon. What about the hair? Was the hair more like a fur, or was it more like a human hair? I'll tell you what. It kind of looked like a cross between a human's hair and a bear's hair.

That's what it put me in the mind of. it was kind of longish but it was like all matted together gotcha and it was red did you notice if it was a male or female well I've seen a female

and it wasn't no female and also I wanted to know did you get a chance to look at the feet I mean everybody finds these footprints everywhere did you get a chance to look at the feet and you know I don't know what they look like.

Did they just look like normal feet? I didn't look at its seat. I never thought to him. I was looking at its head. I was looking at its head and it's chest because I was kind of in shock over there. I got that damn place to want. I mean, it didn't really set in until after I shot

and got up and actually looked over top of it. Then I realized what I shot. What'd you feel like after that? And it definitely was not How'd you feel once you realized what you shot? I can't believe I just busted the world's greatest trophy.

That's exactly what I felt like. I felt like I killed the 30 point buck. But you guys, but people's got to understand this is coming from a hunter. I spend, I start preparing for deer season

in July. or June. I put the cameras back out at June. I start feeding my deer at June 1st. I check my cameras every three days. I buy the top protein food. I put out food plots. I actually go plow up some of the field,

and I actually go and buy different types of stuff that only deer like eating, you know, stuff. I grow stuff that, most people wouldn't even eat. Like turnips. Oh, my God, then big monster bucks are going there and just rip a turn it field upside down. Sometimes I even plant soybeans

just for the deer to eat. I don't go down there and harvest that stuff. But I tell you what, 10 yards from the field in the tree line, I bet you I got three cameras in a tree stand. So, yeah, I spend most of my time playing in the woods. Or I'm not. or I'm test firing a near Isle.

I got a few buddies that work for Henry Lever, and they're modifying this special Henry Lever Golden Boy. I'm going to run me about $2,300. I'm my new Bigfoot gun. Because I'm an idiotic in Ohio. He started out of 4570. You can help with them in Ohio. That's like using a supercharged 12 gauge.

So let me ask you, when they came to these agents that showed up to your, property and they told you all this stuff. Did you get a sense that they were trying to cover something up? Were they trying to keep it quiet? Or do you think they're coming more towards you and letting you know, listen, we know what you did and this is what's going to have if you do it again? Or do you... Oh, they were, they acting like they were like, I killed Jesus, man. They were pissed off. But what was weird about it, the ones in the black SUV were in plain clothes. they wouldn't like a Game Worden,

and they had like the Game Worden's badge made like a necklace hanging off of them. They didn't have to pull out their ID. They came out with their ID already, and they came heavily armed. Yeah, one of them had one of them short, AR-15's chopped down military style. Yeah, they went and playing.

They were straight up pissed off. They said, all right, we know what you did. Where's the Bigfoot, game warden? Then the other one said, I'm a federal officer for the division of wildlife. Basically, FBI. Wow. Yeah, they were very, very, very unhappy. And I said, hey, you got too close to me.

It scared to hell on me. I blew the tent off. I looked right out that federal age, and I said, but you can kiss my ass. It was either him or me, and I had a 12-gauge. I was turkey hunting. And that's how it happened. And they said, okay, that's fine. If you were scared and you thought your life was in danger,

you was threatened, you have the right to defend yourself. But now you've got to prove it, or you're going to jail. I said, come up here. I'll show you detail for detail exactly what happened. They even had me set up the tree and act like I had a gun in my hand, and they had the agent go exactly where I shot, and they had to take a picture of it. that's how thorough these guys were.

Yeah, they took a picture of everything, but the body was gone. Now, do you think that since this happened, and they showed up to your property, have you noticed any kind of different vehicles driving by? Have you seen them again? Have they contacted you since then? Or have they let you alone?

Oh, every once in a while, I'll see a black dirt that SUV rolling by. Is that uncommon for you, Liv? Well, until that day it was. After that, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Game morning sits down the road during deer season. It ain't during hunting when a hunting season kicks in. Maybe a quarter of a mile down the road

be setting a game morning back in near the fence, just sitting there waiting for someone to crack a shot off. see he came back in in his truck and sit there during gun season and nobody is nobody be the wiser of what he's doing because they'll just soon be like oh that's a game morning he's looking for somebody poaching but i know it was for me

they just they they just were making their statement hey you shoot another one we're going to get you that's just how they were saying it so i had to make sure I had hunting license made sure i used the right kind of shells, right kind of, I never put a choke tube in my shotgun.

But boy, I got to put one in there now. Or a plug. I never put a plug in my gun. You're only a lot of three shelves in the shotgun. I think it's a crack of shit. So I just love it. I put all five in there. But now after that, oh, there's a plug in my gun.

I only got three shells in my chamber. Yeah, you play by the books now. Oh, yeah. It sucks. But that's what you get for busting federal law. And especially when they know you broke federal law and they couldn't prove it. So, yeah, I really made a mind. I broke federal law and didn't realize that.

But hell, I didn't know I was breaking federal law. Thing got close and looked aggressive. So I took him out. Right. And I'll tell you now, I'll tell you now, when I go this year hunting, he gets him with 20 yards. I'll put him now. I don't care. Have you had any more problems? Oh, man. Well, see, here's the thing. Here's the twist. I moved. I had to move from my mom's

property that it was so bad. I moved five miles down the road. I thought, well, man, I love, and I moved here last year, okay, and I thought, man, this is great. No big floods. I'm going to get to hunt. I ain't going to get bothered. Yeah, come about February. Everything was great. No signs, no sounds. January.

I heard that damn howl again. Then I started noticing them, and I actually started going looking for him. I thought, what to hell? I'll see one up close again. Then that's when I've seen the two black ones and the red ones. but or yeah it's two black ones two red ones black ones they're quite peaceful they just look at me and go on they don't throw rocks they don't growl they don't shake trees i don't do no that stuff they just like

slowly back out of the woods they'll just turn around walk away they don't bother me one bit now if i come across the red one i don't care if he's out a hundred yards 75 yards he better bear running because I'm busting off rounds. I try to run them red ones off. They leave for a while and come right back. Now, what's wrong with the red ones? What exactly are they doing that makes you want to be so aggressive towards them? I don't like them.

I hate them. I'll blow their heads off. They're just aggressive animals. So they're acting aggressive to you? Oh. If they're in the area and you just have... the woods. Oh, yeah, you're getting a tree third at you.

You're getting rocks stirred at you. They'll grunt. They'll shake trees. They'll how. Oh, yeah. They just get all test off. But now the black ones, they just turn right around and go away.

They don't make it sound hard on them. This past week, it's been really off the hook. You remember the recordings I sent you? Yeah. I wanted to ask you, are those recordings similar sounds that you heard? From this property.

and what I've been hearing. Okay. So I'm guessing it's Bigfoot, but I've been hearing insane damn sounds for the past five years. And starting February of this past year is when I started trying to get them on some kind of proof of, hey, man, this is what I'm seeing. Hey, this is what I'm hearing.

Okay, if it's not Bigfoot, then what the hell is it? You tell me what I'm here. hearing. That's why I sent them to you, because I want you to tell me what the hell did I hear? Right. I know. And I wanted to ask you, I think you said it was one of your first times experiencing Bigfoot activity. You heard the howling. Is that the same kind of howling that you had recorded and sent to me? Yes. Sound the same, the same length, everything. That's what I heard. And I've been hearing it for five years. And everybody's been telling me, oh, you smoke too much wheat.

You're dumb. You're nuts. Them things don't exist. Or they're always, well, where's the body at? You got a picture of one? So I just made up my mind, all right, I'm going to get it on tape. And all my buddies and everybody around here told me I'm a nut. Well, now they can't exactly tell me what I'm hearing.

Because I play it for them. I'm like, hey, stupid. tell me what hell this is and I don't know what that is I was like well that's what I've been here and that's what I've been telling you about so a lot of them's kind of changed your tune they don't doubt me as much now because I can't explain what it was can you no I mean not with any known animals I know the first recording you sent me it was it sounded like three of them went off and I told you that I know there's going to be a lot of people once they hear that they're going to say, oh, well, that could be cows.

But with the second recording, it has the same howl sound, only it's much longer. I mean, I think it lasted about 15, 20 seconds. Well, the reason the first one I think he didn't last that longer, that's because I was hauling ass out of the woods. I wouldn't stay in there with three of them. No, I totally understand that. Not with a single shot 12 gates. Uh-uh.

I ain't having that. I was gone. If you play it back and listen to it, you can actually hear the kirkets and the nighttime noises. Then you can hear me starting to run. And I accidentally hit the shut off button. But I went about to turn around and turn it back on. I was too busy getting out of the woods.

I wasn't armed enough to be in there around them. But it's like that sometimes. I've got three months here, not a peep. Then all of a sudden, it all breaks close. And they'll stay here about three or four days, then they're gone. Like they never existed, like they never was here. No signs, no traces of them, nothing. Then it might go three weeks in all here.

Might go a week. Might go two weeks. You never know. They just come and go. They don't stay. The ones here, Do not stay in the same area for long, but I can always tell when they're here. Because when they're here, I don't have any pictures of big deer on my tree camera.

Oh, I might catch the little dough or something like that. But when I don't hear them, my tree cameras are going off. Big bucks. They seem calm. Then all of a sudden, I'll get a few pictures, and they just seem like they're just on high alert. And they're going. That's why I do not like Bigfoot. I am not a fan of Bigfoot.

I'd seen them. I believe they exist. And quite frankly, I can't stand them. They get on my nerves. Black ones ain't bad though, but still, it's running off my game. Yeah, let me ask you, the color of the one you killed, what color was it? Red. So do you think the other red ones that are being aggressive to you are more aggressive to you,

maybe possibly for retaliation? Do you think they were related to the one you killed? I seriously doubt that. I just think they just got bad attitude. I just, some animals are like that. Some of them are real calm in general. And some of them, they just don't want no part of human or anything, and they just don't want you around.

But they'll warn you. And if you don't listen to their warnings, they will try to circle you, and they will come down there, I honestly think he will try to kill you. Have you seen them together at all? I mean, the black and red ones? Well, yeah. And I don't think they can do along with each other.

I was back in what we call Indian Valley. It's got two hills or two really, really big hills. I mean, it's really beautiful back there. And the reason we call it Indian Valley, because it just looks like Indians would, you know, have a try bear. It just got this weird-looking, weird selling to the place. Back there, scouting for turkeys, out into the field,

this big, big, nice-looking black one took off just as fast as it could run. I'm telling you, this thing's sitting like 34-mile an hour. And it went... maybe 200 yards away from me come right out in open field

then it got to the other side stopped and turn around it was standing there like it was watching but it wasn't watching me it was watching

the other tree line then I heard the how then here come out the big red one and it was it come out looking aggressive.

You know, at 200 yards, I don't think out 12-gauge with turkey loading it would have bothered it, but I busted about five rounds over top its head and ran it back up through the other side of the woods. And that black one, it just kind of stood there and watched for a minute and just disappeared into the woods.

So here, if you see a black one, usually you see the rear end of it because it's already seen you and it's already just trying to get away. and they don't try to get any aggressive. I've come across them in the woods and Camus Lodge. One of them got about 60 yards away from me, and I just moved, and it's seen me, and it just turned around, went right back out of the woods, same way it came.

Didn't scream, didn't hoop, didn't hollered, didn't do none of that. Now, if it would have been the big red one, he will at least straight a rock, yelled, scream, or try to get closer, or I've noticed that it'll swing around and try to come in behind me. I've had one of them do that, and I've shot at it. So let me ask you about the property. Do you think there's something that's attracting these things to your property? Is it the kind of property that they could disguise? Lack of people.

Okay. This property and the neighboring property, there's, been no hunting, no fishing, no nothing. There is a big monster lake back there too and two small ponds. And there's absolutely no hunting. I'm the only one's allowed to hunt it. I'm the only one's got permission to be on it. Now, on the other side of the property,

the guy let some rabbit hunters come in there in January and February and turn their dogs loose and do rabbit hunt. But other than that, it's absolutely no hunting. Guy don't like guns. He don't care if I hunt. But most of the time I got to use the crossbow or the compound bow, he gets a little upset for me using 12 goods. Do you know if there's been any other sightings in that area,

other than yourself? Has anybody else reported seeing these things? Well, there's a guy that lives down the road. He came back here. I don't know about three months ago and started asking kind of weird questions. Like, man, if you ever seen anything in the woods, you couldn't explain? And I looked at him, I said, I know exactly what you mean.

It's big, and it walks on two legs like a human, huh? And he goes, you've seen it? Nah, yeah, I've shot out a couple times. And he asked me what I thought it was, and I told him. I was like, that's what it is. It gets too close, blow its head off. Don't tell nobody you did it. Exactly what I told him.

Well, do you think that if you were to kill another one or somebody else were to kill one, do you think that these things could turn on you quicker than they did the first time? I mean, the first time you heard it making a bunch of noise up at the top of the hill, but do you think that's next time it could be a little bit of a different story? Could be. Especially if there's more than one and they see you do it or they know you've done it. Yeah, I'd say the rest of them would come off the hill and help the other one out. especially if you don't get it right off.

If it makes a wounded animal sound, oh yeah, they'd be right on you. I wouldn't doubt that one bit. But the one I shot and killed, he didn't make a sound. He was dead before he hit the ground. There was no life in him. So as I ate that trigger.

He went straight back and didn't even move. I didn't even see him breathe after that. How far is the property that you're on now compared to the property you killed the big foot on. Well, to say. Maybe bigger here, actually. See, here's the thing.

We got a highway that is, I don't know, maybe a mile from here, from exactly where I'm at right now. But there's a small creek that runs down through there, and down on the other side of the property are these great big tunnels that the creek flows through. Then it dumps out into the higher river. And that is restricted property.

If you get caught on that property, you will go to jail because a plant owns the property and it's all blocked off. The only way that you could go in and out of that property is through them tunnels. And them tunnels are not barricaded, whatsoever. He just walk right through it. They're huge. So I actually think when hunting season kicks off around here, them animals cross the neighbor's property into my property. I sent

to go down in the bottom of that creek bed, and I think that little assholes follow that creek bed all the way out through them tunnels and go to property that is unreachable to anybody. I mean, it's not guarded, but you went climbing that six, or that tens of, a razor wire on it. And all I say it is is woods, thick, heavy woods. And it really leads right out to the higher river. But the property that you shot the Bigfoot on is different than the property you live on now, right? There's a difference. Yeah, like it's not the same property, right?

Right. It's not the same property. So how far is the property? I see my mom's house maybe five miles per day. I can walk from here to my mom's house and never touch a road. So basically what I'm saying is these Sasquatch that you're seeing on the property now very well could be the same ones from your mom's property. Oh, yeah.

Easy. They'd go right through the woods and never be safe. it's that thick. The only way to catch them is to be sitting right there as they cross. You just got to get in between where they're coming from

and where they're going. If you can do that, you'll come across them every time. But who's to say they don't take different ways in and out? I've never personally tried to do that. But I think if somebody would find that pattern,

they could get up place and personal with Bigfoot every single time, I wouldn't advise it because you never know when you come across that red one. Are you open to having somebody come onto your property and research these things?

Well, yes and no. Me personally, if they would wait until I get my deer tag sold, after that, I don't care. They come and research it. Heck, all of them take them back there and show them exactly where I'm in seeing them where I've been seeing them at.

I'll actually take them back here and show them where they cross. Oh yeah, I found out. They like running the telephone wire. How'd you find that out? That's where they've been crossing at the most. That's where I see them at the most.

Okay, you know how telephone poles and wires run through the woods and they always keep that mode, but it always grows real high with weeds. Right. they like running that. That's where I've been seeing them at the most. Way back here in the back,

the farthest part of the property that is that my basically my landlord owns where I got full permission to be, the back farthest property is where I see them the most. They love we're running in power lines for some reason. I can't figure it out why, but that's where I, it's my guess. I've heard that,

theory before and a lot of people say that the power lines are easier for travel yeah yeah i've heard i've heard that a lot actually uh see i've never heard that see i see people's got to understand is i'm new to this big foot thing you know i've been seeing them i know what they look like you know i've just been i call it unfortunate the time across them because they're pain yeah i mean some people say that they think that they walk the power lines because it's easier to travel from one place to another. What would you say to that? Well, here, we got some big monster deer trails that cut right up to the middle of it. So, yeah, I'd say it'd be an easier way to travel.

Have you ever heard of the woo? The woo. Just by your response, I know you haven't heard of it. So let me just tell you. Yeah, I'm sitting there trying to think, because you guys, I understand, I'm new to a lot of this. Right. And so I didn't think you would ever hear about this since you're new.

I'll tell you, it's called the woo factor. That's what they call it. And there's people out there that claim that they have seen Bigfoot and it will disappear right in front of them or it will mind speak with them. What do you think about that idea? Because it sounds like you, to me, it sounds like you encountered. a very much flesh and blood creature. But do you think, or have you ever noticed anything peculiar about them,

that would make you say maybe they do have some kind of abilities that are more supernatural? I've never had one disappear like that in an open field or an open timber. But I tell you what, they can disappear real quick and thick timber. Like if it's real, real thick and heavy, they'll be gut lot. It's like they disappear in front of you. So I can kind of understand what they're talking about there. But as far as the mind factor, no, they're just animals. They're just some kind of weird North American gorilla.

That's all they are. They ain't nothing special. They don't have magical powers. And you're just idiots trying to tell people that. They're just people that tries to build up the big foot to make it really unbelievable. the bull. But yeah, they can disappear quick. It don't take them long to disappear in the woods. I got you. Yeah, no, I don't know how I feel about all that stuff. I mean, I've heard different

theories and stories and stuff like that. And, you know, that's one thing is we live in a very strange and peculiar world, and there's a lot of people to see a lot of crazy things. And I've heard of people who were in the whole flesh and blood camp where they believe it's a flesh and blood creature, and they actually change and they go over to another side of the whole thing and they say, well, maybe it is some kind of supernatural creature because of something they experienced. But as far as you've experienced, you've only experienced something that resembles animal-like behavior. I tell you what I think is weird about them. I don't know if it's the coyotes following them or they or the coyote or, how can I say?

I'm not sure if they follow the coyote packs or the coyote. Coyote packs follower them. That's another way I can tell to run this property because coyotes get nuts. 24-7 all night long, you'll hear coyotes going off. Then you'll hear them loud, loud, loud, long howls like I sent you. So you'll hear the coyotes go on. Is there any way, since we're on the radio, can you play that long house? That way everybody else can hear what I'm hearing.

That way everybody don't think I'm crazy? Yeah, absolutely. I'll play the first clip that you sent me that sounded like it had three different vocalizations going off at the same time. Okay, that was the first one. And then you sent me the second one, which was the clip of just one howl that was going on for, what, 15, 20 seconds. So have a listen to this. So with that howling noise, did you hear that howling noise before or after coyotes? Well, sometimes, well, my mom's trucker.

That's when I really noticed the coyotes. Because you'd hear the long how, and you could literally go one, two, three, four, five. Then on the other side of the hill, even sometimes clear across the road, a whole gigantic pack of coyotes will just bust out. So I really don't know. They could be communicating, looking for food. or they could be just opportunists. I've heard different stories where I've heard people say that they found dead coyotes where the necks were snapped, but they weren't eaten.

They were just killed. And people think that maybe coyotes are actually a nuisance to bigfoot creatures. What would you say to that? What do you think? Well, I would have to say either they'd get along or live. they hate each other. It's one or the other. There ain't no happy medium on this one.

Because I don't know if the bigfoot's chasing the coyotes down and trying to kill them. Or is the coyotes just following Bigfoot thinking he's going to kill something so they can sneak up and eat it? Or they could just, one could be stealing from each other, taking the other one out. Of course, if I was Bigfoot and I was in the woods and some damn dogs tried to steal my food, I'd reach down Snapperneck. too. So I totally can see Bigfoot doing that. I can totally see Bigfoot being very, very territory

or all various food. See, we've got a bunch of cats here. And you got cats at your house? Yeah. Okay. Go in your refrigerator, take a little piece of blund and throw it down in between two cats and watch them growl and hiss at each other.

Right. that, I mean, it could be several different ways that could go. But the only way to truly know is get somebody in the tree stand, get them in camouflage, and help the gun, something like that happens right in front, and they can record it. That's the only way to tell. Yeah, I've also heard of people saying they find coyote bodies, you know, neck snapped or something like that, up in trees.

like they'll be stuffed in the Y of a tree or something like that. And that makes you wonder, you know, how does it get there? We got a healthy, healthy coyote around here. And I have never seen one in the tree. I've never seen one dead. Well, I've seen them dead with a gun with a bullet hole. Because in the state of Ohio, the coyotes, it's considered a nuisance animal. Yeah, you can go in the woods and kill 1,500 coyotes a day,

and the game warning is shake your hand and take you through your effort. He don't even care if you got a hunting license. But long as you can prove you're shooting coyotes, shoot. Game boring would say, well, you just have a nice night then, and leave. Won't even bother you. Or if you go out in the woods, you can shoot a wild boar. Game ward wouldn't bother you. Shoot anything else.

He'll put you in jail every single time. But that is two animals that that game weren't against the most. They call them nuisance animals and they say, blow them away. Don't care. Don't call us and tell us about it. I understand that. In PA, that's the same thing. I don't think there is a cap limit on how many you can kill in PA.

I think it's just if you see it and you can shoot it and you want to shoot it, go ahead. As far as I understand, I mean, I know my mother-in-law, her and her husband, had a pretty big piece of property. And he used to tell me that anytime I wanted to come up and just sit in a tree stand or something like that and just pop them off as they come over the ridge at night to feel free to do so. Oh, yeah, I had a buddy one time. He was out on the back right, and he had a 22 rifle just in his car,

and he had a loaded little 22 Marlin 10-round gun, nothing special. He had some coyotes run out in front of hand. He rolled down the window real quick. quick and shot two of them. And he didn't even have the damn Game Warden was parked right around the route from him out on the back road. And when the Game Warden heard him shoot, game warden pulled up and he said,

well, you're going to jail, shooting for him a gun, poaching. And then he said, officer, I was always shooting coyotes. I didn't think him mattered. And the Gaywarden said, prove it to me. He said, well, I got two laying right there dead, sir. And the Game Warden walked over and expected them. So, yep, they were two coyotes. Thank you for your help.

You have a nice day. I got right back in his track. I gave him work him all kinds of ticket. But once he found out that he was on shooting coyotes, came morning, let him go. Said, don't do that again. Have a nice day. Got to go.

Didn't even care. So let me ask you about something else that I just thought of. A lot of people that do Bigfoot research, where they go out in the woods in a research area is trying to find these things, they do something called gifting where they will leave either food or sometimes marbles in a certain pattern on a log or something like that. And it's basically they're trying to communicate with these things. And people say that sometimes they'll come back and the marbles are moved in different positions or the food is taken and in its place. Like I just heard,

I believe it was on Sasquatch Chronicles this past week's show. The guy said that he was hunting and he left some crackers on, I believe, is a log. And he came back the next day. He wasn't trying to feed anything. He just was leaving them there because he forgot him there. Next day he came back and the crackers were gone. And in its place was some of those naturally grown onions set on top of the log. Like it was giving food back or something like that.

But what do you think about all that? I mean, have you ever heard of anybody doing that? No. I tell you what, my mom had, I don't know or understand why she does it, but she buys these great big boxes of peach. And some of them were starting to go bad, so I asked them for her because I start getting ready for deer season, about June, well, about July.

and I decided to go down there and I put three peaches shaped into a triangle in three different spots and overnight all the peaches were gone including the seeds. The seeds wasn't even left on the ground. And you remember a picture of that blur

I sent you? Yeah. Okay. that's when that blur picked that's when that dark shaped outline of a up walking figure appeared in front of my tree camera and all the peaches were dark not even the seeds

and I didn't notice anything whatsoever out of place so I'd have to say no okay so when you I hate to keep coming back in backtracking here but that's fine that's fine that's fine.

I want to ask you, when you dropped this thing, when you killed this thing and you went over to it, what did it smell like? I'm trying to think of a polite way to say it because I know you got your radio, so. Well, I would have to say a wet, robin dog crossed with a stunk. It did stink to high heaven.

that's exactly what a lot of people describe it as and I tell you what I never smell a smell like that really it had a weird well imagine that you know how they say a copperhead smells like a cucumber no I've never heard of that well if you're in the woods a lot and right after it rains

if you smell kind of a cucumberly smell, usually there's a copperhead that ain't too far away. Oh, see, I didn't know that. It's good to know. And it kind of smelled like that with a stunk and a rotting meat. You put all that together, and I'd say that would just about do it. I find that really interesting because I hear a lot of different people's stories of their encounters, and a lot of people describe it what you said with the whole

the wet dog and skunk smell. A lot of people say that. I find that interesting. That's a common description pretty much everywhere. It's something you would definitely never smell again. Well, personally for me, I've never smelled that smell again,

but I'll tell you what, it's distinctly stuck in the back of my mind. Because if I ever smell, that smell again, I know exactly what's coming after me and I know what to throw at it. And if I ain't got that kind of firepower with me, oh, I'm running. I'm getting out of there. Yeah, around here, we don't go in the woods without a gun. That's just like retarded. That's like giving an eight-year-old henny cap kit a gun and say, here, it's like to go outside and play with it. That's about how dumb that could be.

Yeah, whenever I would go in the woods and stuff hiking around, I always had a gun on me. I always said I carry a gun on me for two reasons, snakes and crazy people, because sometimes you run into crazy people out there and you don't want to be out there defenseless. Oh, we don't have crazy people in our woods down here. They're actually smart enough to know if they go in the woods, they won't come out, and nobody won't give two shits about shooting them. I don't know what it is about Southern Ohio, but we are some territorial some of the bitches down here. Every damn one of us.

We do not like trespassists and we are not afraid to let people know. We catch you on our property. We will blow your head off. Some aggressive people down there. I think they put something in the water, but that's just my opinion. Oh, yeah, if I catch you trespassing on my property, I'm not a bit afraid to shove a gun barrel on your face. And the first time I'll tell you, look, you're trespassing. You know where you are.

You know what you're doing. If I see you again, I'll just shoot you. Understood. Get. Well, on that bright note, let me ask you, before we get out of here tonight, I want to ask you, what's your gut tell you? When it comes to this whole Bigfoot thing, you've seen them. What do you think they are?

Do you think they're some kind of just North American? ape, or do you think that they could be possibly some kind of offshoot of human beings? Or what are your thoughts? No, they're more animal than anything. I have my personal opinion. They're just a unknown species. Just like, I'm not a Bible sumpur by all means. I believe there's a God.

I believe there's a hell. I really don't know which place I'm going, and I really don't care. that don't bother me one bit. But I was always told in the Bible, it says that there are creatures on earth that no man have seen and more to come. That's what I've been told. Personally, I've never went and looked it up because me, I could care less. If there's a weird animal it pops up, oh well, glad they found it. Good job.

but they're just a weird animal, plain and simple. They're some kind of cross-bredded ape. As all they are, they're not human noise. They're not half human, half gorilla. I don't believe that one pit. Then they find one that was frozen

that had actually existed like 100 years ago. I think that was a fake. In ice. Oh, in China? Yeah, they actually got a name for it, and they said that animal actually existed. And it was an upright walking gorilla type thing. They found it in ice in China. You know, that story escapes me.

I must have missed it. Or it could have been a hoax. It's hard to tell with idiots. Yeah, you know, it could have been a hoax. I mean, I know there's a whole. a lot of people out there that, you know, just for fun, whatever reason, they decided to try to do a hoax. I think somebody pays them to do it. I really do. I think people go out there and do hoaxes on purpose just to get people the doubt that they don't exist and it's all a big hucks. But now,

they don't they do exist. They're just a weird looking up. Right gorilla. That's all they are. They're just simple animals that don't want to be bothered. Yeah, you know, that's basically the most basic conclusion that I've come to myself. I have told lots of people that I just, I really believe that at the basic root of it, they don't want to be bothered. They live a seclusive lifestyle and they just want to be left alone. And they're very good at being left alone. Yeah, they just know how to hide well. And, you know, there ain't that many of them. Our woods are deep. Our woods is plain a fool. So, yeah, I just think they just tried to hide the best they can.

And just every so often, somebody has them to walk across the one. And so. But I believe that they'd kill a human. I don't think they're all quite cuddly and fluffy, and they're not. big titty bears, I'll tell you that. But for my experience, the black ones, they don't seem so bad.

The red ones, tain in the ass. I got you, man. I got you. Well, Brian, I really appreciate you coming on the show tonight. I know people are going to be chatting a lot about this episode. So hopefully you get a chance to tune in and listen to this interview once it airs. Well, how do you do that? I'll send you a link. You'll be able to listen to it. I'll send you a direct link.

Oh, okay. That'd be really cool, man. Absolutely. Absolutely, man. All right, man. Well, you have a good night. And if you have any other things you want to share with me, I mean, keep the audio coming. Shoot me some pictures. If you come across them again, just let me know. Well, my next step is to actually get one on videotape that. You can actually tell what the hell I'm looking at. That's my next goal. But I tell you what, I'll tell you what. start i started in february trying just to get something and it was a week or so ago that i actually got something on audio it's almost taking me a whole year just to be able to get some

kind of audio of what i've been hearing that way everybody does not think i'm full blown crazy and that's the audio you sent me Yes. This past week, this past week or so, oh, they lit it up like a Christmas tree here. Now, for the last two nights, back to dead silent. Just like they never was even there, just like I never even heard it. Just like I made it up. That's how quiet it is. Do you think that they move from area to area? Is that why you're not hearing that? Oh, I guarantee you that they move from area to area and they don't stay in the same place too damn wrong.

Why they do that? I don't know. Maybe that's why they're so good at hiding. They're not like deer. But I tell you what, I got a dough that I've been feeding. I don't plan on shooting her. Sure, I think she could be sick, but I tell you what, she's one of the most pitifulest, scroniest ass doughs I've ever seen in my life.

I don't know. I'm the all-American great white redneck deer killer. of all the time. I shoot them all. I don't care if they got horns or not. Big ones,

little ones. It don't matter to me. If it's brown I put them down, I don't care. I'm telling my freezer.

But this dough, I tell you what, she is so pitiful. You can see her rib cage in pictures. I'll send you a picture of her. And you can sit there and count this poor little doe's rib.

She comes in my cedars in front of my cameras. maybe from 10 a.m. to 11. I'll have 15 pictures of the same year. Then she'll slowly walk away. Then sometimes that right at dark she'll come in, feed again, and leave. Or sometimes she'll pop up about 4.35 o'clock in the morning. And she'll eat for a little bit, then she just goes away.

when I do not have when just like today I check my I put the feed out a Saturday night I just checked my cameras let's see 8 o'clock this morning to pull off my trail cams from my S river the picture from my SD card she never stepped one foot

in front of my cameras so that tells me they're back downer and at home or they've already moved out. You only got a three or four day window, and that's it. They're gone. And it's about time for him to leave. Like I said, no coyotes tonight, no house, no screams, no nothing, just like they never even existed.

And maybe a week, a month, maybe a month and a half, they'll be right back for about three or four days, gone again. they just come and go and they never keep the same pattern. I never know when they... Next Saturday, I might have... I might be able to hear or I might see something. But other than that, nothing. So yes, they are on the move and they keep moving.

They don't stay in the same spot twice. Gotcha. Well, they'll come back to the same spot, But they don't stay long. And it's not guaranteed they come back to that same spot I hear them, because I hear them in different parts of the woods. They're never in the same spot more than two days. If you hear them that night, next day they're gone.

They moved to the other hill. Or they might be back at the lake. Or they might be on the other side of the property. You just never know. But when they're here, I don't get picked on my trail cameras. when they're gone and I don't hear nothing, Cheryl cameras light up. Sounds like there's a correlation for sure.

But I do believe they have a pattern, and if you can figure that pattern out, you will find it. You'll find it every single time if you can find that pattern out. But they got their pattern so complex, it's almost impossible to figure it out. But if you're smart enough to figure it out, like I think I got it down, then, yeah.

But a lot of the Bigfoot researchers, they just go to one area just for a few days and leave. To truly research Bigfoot, and if you really want to find him, get you a piece of property that you know for a fact there's been bootfoot activity, go to Walmart, go to Kmart, go wherever, and get you. you about 10 different tree cameras and put them on deer trails and put out peaches. And you will have a big foot or you will see or have something that you can't explain that's the only way to do it. I got you, man. Well, on that note, I really appreciate you coming on. Like I said before, no problem.

If you have any other things you want to share with me, feel free to give me a shout, and I'd be happy to discuss things with you. But I really appreciate coming on tonight. Oh, no problem. It's been my pleasure. All right, man. I'll talk to you later. All right, you have a good one.

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