The Confessionals - 313: Hatman Spoke To Me

Episode Date: February 16, 2021

In Episode 313: Hatman Spoke To Me, we are joined by Sandra and Richard for a two-part show. First, Sandra shares her amazing experience with a Hatman. We've heard a number of Hatman stories on The Confessionals, but Sandra's Hatman does something that we haven't yet come across: it speaks to her. Following Sandra's experience, Richard tells us a unique story that is different from our usual tone on the show. Richard had been working at a certain place for quite a while before he realized that he was working with his long lost brother! He shares a heartfelt conversation of how the discovery came about, as well as what happened to his brother later on that left Richard feeling like finding his brother involved divine intervention. BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSPONSORS:GET FEALS: https://feals.com/tonyGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: https://simplisafe.com/confessionalsGet Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: https://bit.ly/2FbOhN5CONNECT WITH US:Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] Community: Text "YUP" to 844-215-0819 Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIA:Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's NEW Instagram: rage_against_dystopiaMeWe: https://mewe.com/i/tonymerkel5Gab.com: https://gab.com/TonyMerkelFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkelSHOW INTRO: Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. Well, the giant moves. He's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds them up like this.

Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitate them. Something pulling at my leg. And I look over, and there are two small, gray entities. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air. Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move. Because I know I'm seeing a monster.

Welcome to the show, everybody, you're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. That's The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, The Confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section and you can reach for that way as well.

Either it works for me, just get a hold of me. If you want more shows every week on Thursdays, we release a bonus show to members only on the website. So if you want more shows on a weekly basis, go to the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the join button and become a member today. Now, this week, we have a great show coming up. We have two interviews coming up on this show today. First off, we have Sandra coming on the show, and she's going to talk about her hatman experience where it's very unique, where you actually have somebody that had Hatman experience and actually spoke with it. Very interesting conversation I had with Sandra.

And then we bring on Richard, who has just more of an uplifting story that he has, where he got connected, with his long-lost brother that really seemed to defy all odds, but it actually happened in the most ironic way. So I thought it would be a good fun interview to bring him on and have him talk and share that story and kind of lift up the spirits, hopefully. But anyways, let's get to this week's show right now. All right, today we got Sandra on the show. Sandra, how you doing? Good. How are you Tony? Doing well, doing well. So, Sandra, you have a life of these paranormal experiences. You believe that you're being demonically attacked or there's a lot of spiritual warfare going on in your life. But it all starts as a child when you were about five years old and you had a hat man speak to you.

Now, that's something that I find interesting because a lot of times I hear these hatman stories, but I can't recall very often where I hear people say that that actually spoke to them. So what happened? Yeah, this is kind of interesting because I have been listening to your show where the hat man, people have said they've seen him and I'm waiting for somebody to say that they've actually spoken to him and I did. And what happened was when I was about five years old, I was being babysat and with a bunch of, there was like four little kids and a babysitter. And it was kind of like during those times where you had to either stay outside or play in the garage. So we were playing in the garage. I remember we were kind of like bouncing a ball around playing in the

babysitter was sitting there. One of the girls that was with me said to our babysitter, can I go inside the house and get a drink of water? And so he said, sure. So one of the little girls that I was being babysat with went inside the house to get a drink of water, came back out, screaming, saying there's a ghost in the house, there's a ghost in the house. So what do I do? I run inside the house and my brother followed me. So it was me and my brother, we ran inside the house and it was, this is like around 1970. So this is like during the time where everybody's curtains were like really thick with like the blackout material. So like the whole house, the inside of the house was kind of like blacked out.

and I walked in the house and there was a man standing there with a suit like a suit on like the shadow man with the fedora and he started yelling at my brother and I he said where the hell

are those MFers that did this to me and I remember standing there in shock. I think I was in shock. And so I also think at that point in time, I was trying to debunk it, believe it or not. I thought, who's playing a joke on us? Like, who's making up this fake ghost in the house?

So I were looking around trying to figure out how they could do this, but it was impossible because the whole house there was no way to cast a shadow because all the windows had black cow curtains on them and the house was dark and this entity or shadow man was darker than everything. I could make out his clothes. I could make out his face. I saw his mouth moving.

He kept asking actually more and more aggressively. There was a lamp on the table that he knocked. My brother at this point ran out of the house. The lamp got knocked down at me, and he just kept screaming at me. He wanted to know where the guys were that had done this to him. So what do you think that was about? I mean, where were the guys that did this to him? Are you talking about, like, do you think he was saying, I died, I was murdered, something like that?

Right. I think he's, I think he said, my feeling was that he was murdered and he was in some sort of vengeance or revenge. stuck in some sort of revenge and trying to find out who these guys were that killed him. And once I stood there and realized that this wasn't a joke and that nobody was playing a joke on me, I ran back outside into the garage and I told the babysitter, she opened the door of the house and looked inside, screamed, pulled the door shut and told all of us kids, get out of the garage, get out of the garage. And we all got out of the garage

and stood in the street and she ran and for the rest of the day until our parents came back, we just literally walked around the neighborhood. Wow. So that shadow guy and I were looking

at my brother and going, did you see that? And he said, yeah. And later on in life, even up, you know, He doesn't really talk about it. But it was a person who had been murdered, I thought, and was looking for the guys that did it. Well, that's interesting.

I mean, so the Hatman experience that people typically have is when they see this thing and it's standing there, it doesn't say anything. A lot of times they don't even describe it moving. but your experience is that it not only spoke, but it, it had character to it. Like there was a real purpose to its existence in front of you. And it was mad. Do you think that this was something different than the typical hatman that people see?

Or do you think that this was, you know what I'm saying? Like sometimes I want, because I wonder sometimes, this is what I wonder. I wonder if people that see the hat man are seeing the same entity or are they seeing entities that look very similar as they all are wearing the hats, which is very interesting that you brought up the fedora as well. And so I don't know. I mean, what do you make of that? I don't know. I mean, the only thing that I mean, when I sit back and I'm analytical about it now, I have to say it reminds me of, I mean, automatically I'm going to say like 19. 40s mafia kind of guy you know that whole good fellows kind of that that's the feeling that I get from him like that's and and I don't

is was there a lot of murder of these guys during that time and or is this just one of the another one of these guys that just is a style of outfit that they wore during that era um I don't know but this

one, this guy definitely was murdered. And I was almost like he was trying to convey to me exactly how he was murdered. If I would have stayed longer. But I didn't because he threw the lap at me. So I figured that was enough. Yeah, I would say so, especially for a five-year-old, I think it was. So yeah, that's enough. And so that was, you see this thing. But you mentioned in the email how it followed you, right? Like it followed you around from place to place? Yeah. So after, yeah, it did follow me. So what happened was after that, I remember maybe a dare to later walking back by that house because it was literally just around the corner from my house. And all of us kids played outside. So I walked by the house. And that particular

house that I played in that garage caught on fire. And I was just little. I was five. And I remember walking up to the house and seeing the entire house, the flames already be put up at the fire department. And the entire house, the interior of the house was black. And I remember,

oh no. Like, oh no. Getting home, that day, I mean, this is the best of my recollection, getting home that day, going to bed that night, and he was in my room, standing on the wall, and he's like, I'm not going anywhere until you tell me where the guys are that did this to me. And I was like, oh, no. Yeah. So, being little, I think, you can probably imagine like the first thing I did was I jump out of bed and try to run to my parents' room because I was terrified. And I opened my bedroom door and there was a man standing on the other side of my bedroom door. And this man was dressed in a cowboy outfit. it and he's like you're not going anywhere until you like deal with that you're staying right

where you are you're not going through me to get to your parents I'm ego and then he said to me he said if you go through me I just want you to know what kind of person I am I'm a kind of I'm the kind of person and and it was like conveyed to me I don't even know that necessarily because my memory now is faded that it was totally spoken to me, but he made it absolutely clear that if I walked through him to get to my parents' door, that he would hang me. So I'm like, okay, I don't want to be hung, and he explained to me how he was going to hang me. So I went back into my bedroom and shut the door, and then that has been a lifelong hatman following me till this day.

It's just been really difficult. Well, yeah, I can imagine so. I mean, having something like that follow you around your entire life is, you know, some people might think it's terrifying, but to me it almost makes me feel like more nerve-wracked. Like, like eventually do you ever think about, are you like, am I going crazy or or am I really seeing this all the time? Right.

So that's exactly, so that's exactly what, you know, I've had the, I've had the opportunities since I'm not five years old anymore to, you know, you know, re-discuss that with my brother about the shadow man at the initial encounter. And then him confirming that for me, going, okay, so I didn't imagine that. And I think what it did for me was it reinforced my faith because I was growing up in a house where I had no, there was no faith in our house. And so I had a babysitter, another babysitter, because I never actually was able to go back to that house and be babysat because that house burnt down. and I'm not sure if the people moved or what happened.

And I had a babysitter who took me behind my parents back and had me baptized. And I talked to the priest. I was five and told him what did happen to me. And he reassured me that God was watching over me. and I think that the thing that is done for me in my life is now that I've seen that, I'm absolutely certain there's something else going on. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind of something else going on. And if anything, it has reinforced my faith.

And so now if I have any funky feeling or if something's going to show up, I literally wear like an eye mask to bed because I don't want to see anything. And I pray before I go to bed and I just, you know, ask Jesus to watch over me while I sleep and I'm okay now. I don't give it any power anymore during the night. But what transformed because of that, or what's been going on to me because of that up until recently is so if I own anything like anything that is like angelic or religious those things get attacked in my house

so because I'm a Christian and it seems like a lot of my Christian friends like to buy me Christian gifts I started getting people would give me angels or stuff like that and I liked that and I thought it was kind of nice to have that in my house. And then those things, the angels, any angel that I've ever owned for the last 50 years does not survive in my house. They get thrown across the floor and they get decapitated. So it's probably been, I mean, I'm going to round up to 100 ceramic angels that have been decapitated. It's just their heads chopped off. And so I stopped, I'm like, those don't come in my house anymore. And if I get them as gifts, I'm, I'm, I'm, that, I'm bombed because I don't want to bring them in the house. Because I don't

want that thing to have any power over me or try to scare me or let me know it's still here. I want it to just be putting its place in to go away. And, um, so the ceramic angels are all gone. That's out of my house now, and now it's, if I own a crucifix, so if I own a crucifix, my crucifixes are all decapitated. Jesus's head is chopped off of my crucifixes, and I'll be wearing it, and I'll have Jesus on there, and then I'll go to be going somewhere, doing something, and look down, and the head's gone. While you're wearing? So, while I'm wearing it.

Wow. And you don't feel anything? you don't know it until you look at it. I look down in. I'm like, okay, yeah. I don't feel anything. I don't know anything. I look down.

So what I did is I, that that was like another thing that I, because I kind of like religious stuff. I like to look at it. I like to wear it. I have paintings in my house. I have paintings the crosses that survive. But no statues. All my crucifixes are decapitated. So I would buy vintage ones on eBay and stuff.

and like to wear them. But now I just feel like it's when I walk, I can't walk around with a crucifix that has a decapitated Jesus on it. I just feel like it doesn't look right. No, yeah. I mean, that's almost fighting the fighting for the other side. I mean, it's like, it's like, what are you, you know? Like, what team are you on?

So, honestly, it's like, and it's sad because I, I, I, you know, like if you go on eBay, you can buy like a lot. Like they'll be like, there's like 30 crucifix. I'm like, oh, they're so cool. They're vintage and they're made out of glass and and buy them. But that's over now. That's gone too. So no religious stuff in my house now.

When I walk, when I get up in the middle of the night, I go out of my bed to go to the bathroom, I just pray to Jesus when I'm walking. I'm pretty strong. I know that I know that the shadow man has no power over Jesus. And he knows that I know that. I could feel it that he knows that I know that. Because when I walk through the dark, I'm like, bring it. Bring it on.

Bring it. Try to scare me. Try to do something to me. I've got Jesus. And I, it's, it hasn't done that. It almost like it, I can feel it almost like kind of like seeping back into the corner of the wall. Like it just sort of decreases and goes away.

Well, that's a common thing that a lot of people say, right? I mean, so it seems like from what I've heard, now granted, I have very limited experience with such things. and people have heard the different stories that I've had throughout my life. But from the collective narrative that I've heard on the show and people telling me, it seems like those who have faith in Christ, when they claim that, these things back off. A couple times I've heard situations where it continues, but for the most part, it seems like these things back off, at least initially they back off. Sometimes they come back, but initially

upon the declaration, it seems like these things back off. Yeah, I'm going to say that I would agree with you. I think that as my faith has grown stronger, I'll sometimes like I'll get growling. I'll hear growling in the room. And I'm just like, you know, I've got Jesus. so I don't know. I'm not scared.

And it's interesting because when I talk about, or if I've taught, which I barely ever do talk about these experiences or the stuff that's going on with me, even my Christian friends are like, you're not scared? I'm like, absolutely not. I mean, if anything, I'm like, bring it.

I mean, I feel strong in my faith, so no, this stuff doesn't scare me anymore. break off my angel break off you know my angel's head I don't care I'll pick it up throw in the trash move along I'm just not I'm just not letting it bother me anymore

I'm over it I'm done like growl throw things do whatever you want to do but I am not going to waver I'm not going to scare me and terrify me my whole life I'm not going to do it you don't get you don't get to do this to me

so yeah I feel like I've kind I feel like I've taken charge of it and just, I don't know, Tony, I'm not afraid anymore. Yeah. And that's good. I really think that's good. Do you think that based off of what you're saying, it sounds like you've experienced this your entire life.

And do you expect it to just continue because it seems like it's going to be, it's on that course of just going throughout your entire life? I'm going to say that my, apparently my grandma, well, my grandma. My mother had this same thing. And so that's, okay, so this is the irony in that. I mean, if we're going to touch on that. My daughter, who looks exactly like me, can't, she sleeps, her entire house, she sleeps with the lights on in her house, and she's not a Christian.

And she, she said to me, Mom, I see ghost, and I can't have the dark. in my house so she sleeps with the lights on in her house till this day till last night my daughter sleeps with the lights on in her room so when I go to visit her I have to wear a sleep mask because the lights are all on in the house and then in the bedrooms and she's not a Christian and she's terrified so do I feel like that it's going to continue on I don't know if it's jumping from me to her now I don't She's absolutely, she's like, I see ghosts. I see some, I see shadow figures.

I see, there's black figures moving in my house. I cannot. And her house, Tony, is, they built that house. It's a custom house. It's not an old house he moved into. It's a brand new house in Southern California, right near the beach, totally mahalo environment over there. And she's got the lights on.

24-7. Yeah, and that's something that, you know, happens a lot, right? I mean, we hear about people saying that they are living in a brand-new house and they have activity going on. And when I first heard those kind of things, actually the very first time I ever heard of something like that, I was a kid and I was watching one of those ghost shows and they said that, you know, they built a brand-new home and then it was haunted. I was like, oh my gosh, how is that possible? You know, I was a little kid. I was a weird kid. I like watching ghost shows. But, you know, as you older and you hear about these different stories, you're thinking, well, then there's clearly more to it than up. It's an old house. And so, you know, it seems like people can be haunted. I believe that.

I believe people can be haunted. And maybe your daughter is starting to experience that. I think so. I mean, I think so. I know so. And then, you know, talking to my mother because it skipped my mom. But my mother said that my, well, and I know this for a fact because I, my grandmother, I had a very close relationship to. And my grandmother has sleep disorder because you couldn't sleep at night because she saw spirits. And so further inquiring mine just like you, I just recently called my mom because I knew I was going to talk to you. And I said, Mom, you know, like, did something happen to Nana when like it was, I mean,

But, well, you know, like, what happened to her? Did she have this problem her whole life where she saw spirits? And then she told me that my grandmother, who was a single mom raising three kids, was dating this young man. And they lived in Mexico, was dating this young man. And the, she was, like I said, a single mother of three kids. And the young man wanted to marry my grandmother. And the family of that young man, who my mom believes were in that Sandinista, that Hispanic kind of voodoo stuff, came to my mom, my grandmother's house and told my grandmother, if you see this man, if you see our son again, we are going to curse you. So my mom said that after my grandma, they threatened to curse my grandmother.

She didn't believe them. She continued to see their son. And then maybe within a week, they came home one day and the roof of their house had crows all over it. And my mom says that she remembers my grandmother pouring salt all over it. around the house and be like, I'm never gonna see this guy again. Oh my God, that's it, never again. And I don't even know if that's where it started,

but I know that happened and my mom witnessed that and she could talk on that. And I don't know if that's where it started and it's continued, I don't know, it's crazy. I, you know, you just don't know. But that happened to my grandmother is, and that I look just like her. I mean, literally now that we have this COVID lockdown, and I haven't been able to do my hair or do anything with my son.

Come on. I remember I walked into the bathroom yesterday morning and looked in the mirror and I went, oh, hi, Nana. Oh, my daughter also looks like my grandmother. And all three of us are sensitive. It's just that my daughter's, my daughter's not a Christian. So she's just sleeping with the lights on. Well, and that you just went where I was going to go with this because I was thinking like, could there be some kind of generational curse or something that was passed on?

It sounds like there might have been. There might have been. Case solved. All right. Well, then move along. Nothing to see here. Yeah. In that case and stuff, I mean, people ask me sometimes, you know, like, what should I do?

I don't know. I honestly don't know. I mean, I could sit here and tell you things that I've read it in line and I could Google it. I could, you know, tell you what I've heard other people do and bring a witch doctor in or sage the house, just that stuff. Like, I don't know what to tell you. No, I don't even need to ask you what to do. I already, I've solved this. I'm fine, Tony.

Right. I mean, I totally believe in God. I totally believe that Jesus is, I believe, I believe, I mean, he's, all I have to do is think about him and I feel covered. And I talked to my daughter about that, and she's like, Mom, mom, you know, I'm only, I'm only, you know, I'm only 30. And, you know, I'll be religious later on in life. No. So, she knows that I've got a handle on this and that she doesn't. And she knows where I go to with this.

But, I mean, honestly, I mean, this guy was standing here right now next to me, I wouldn't, I wouldn't flinch. I'm fine. I don't need anybody to come in the house. I've got God, and I feel like he's got me. I don't... What I now need to do is impress on my daughter how much relief that gives me and how I can sleep in the dark, and no matter what comes up to me, I'm okay. All right, let's take a second and talk about our sponsor

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Feels.com slash Tony. Richard, how you doing, man? Hey, Tony. Hey, man. So listen, I got your email here, and it's actually a change of pace from what we usually have on the show. So usually, you know, it's the scarier, the better, you know, the spookiness and all that stuff. But your story when I read it about it in the email, though it's short, I think that it's something we're talking about just because, I don't know, when I read it, I felt really encouraged and I felt like it was a happy email. and I wanted to share the happy email with the audience.

So you have an experience that you want to share with this, so I'm just going to let you take it away. I don't want to spoil it. Yeah, sure. In 1980, when I was eight years old, I was visiting with my father, and I only really saw him about once a year. And he dropped a bombshell on me by mentioning that I have two older half-brothers.

and my jaw dropped. I never knew that. And I asked about him, and he just said, well, their names are Stephen and Derek. And, you know, I asked how old they were and stuff. And he really, to be honest, didn't even, he hadn't seen him in years. So that was 1980. And I put it always, and it was always in the back burner of my mind. And all through the 80s, you know, especially in high school, starting

around 1986, 7, I wondered about my brothers. And it just kept bugging me. And what they look like, what kind of music they listen to, what kind of movies and just everything. So I remember walking down the street with the boombox and cassette tape playing in my mullet, wondering what they look like. So that was about late 80s.

1992, 93, I reconnected with my father's mother. And mind you, I really, there was a seven-year period. I didn't even see my father. And I probably saw him once a year, if at best. So about 1992, I saw his mom, my grandmother. And I was just talking to her and asked her about my older brothers. and she said, oh, yeah, I haven't seen them in years either. And I asked her what their last name was.

Maybe I could look them up in the phone book. And she told me, well, it's not the same last name as you. They changed their last name to their adoptive stepfather. I said, okay, well, what's that? What's their last name? She said, Jaffreys. So in my mind, I'm looking for Stephen and Derek Jaffreys. And for some reason, I always focused in my mind more on Stephen.

Don't know why he was the second one born. And that was 92, 93. And I looked in the phone book for him. I never found him. And just kind of, again, put it in the back burner of my mind. But it was that one haunting mystery that I just wanted solved. And then fast forward to probably 98, 1999, I started going to church and became a Christian. I even got baptized in 2002 at 30 years old and faithfully just went to church twice a week for about 12 years.

During that time, I started working at a company. and this was I started the company in 2002 also I worked there for a few years and you're not can believe this but I didn't I realized I've been working with my long lost half brother for three years at the same company now what are the odds of that happening I lived 31 miles away, what are the odds? Not only that, but out of 40 trucks in the back parking lot, we were parked next to each other. He was Route 37. I was Route 39. Wow. And out of five teams of managers, we were on the same team for three years. And I didn't even realize he was my brother, and I saw him every day. Now, the day, the moment, I'll never forget as long as

as I live that it dawned on me that he was my brother because mind you he changed his last name and my grandmother had told me his name's stephen jaffreys the guy I worked with his name was Steve Jaffey so my grandmother might have thrown me a curveball I don't know um but I'll never forget where I was when I was when it dawned on me he was my brother he was in the same room with me those about five or six other guys I'm separating my paperwork for the day at the desk and I feel two taps on my right shoulder nobody was behind me and then right after that somebody said the word Jaffy to call him over and I looked at him and my jaw dropped all this within two three seconds I went wait a second that guy's got the same build as my father

and the same shuffle you know can't stand still same eye same color eye so I went oh my God. Now mind you, I'm on fire for God at this time. I was in the middle of going to church, just got baptized a few years earlier, a couple years earlier. He goes into the cafeteria in the next room. I follow him. I go, Steve, do you have any brothers? He was, yeah, I got a brother Derek and a half-brother Joel. I went, do you know who your father is? He said, no, not really. I know he's got the same last name as you. I went, oh my God. Steve, you're my half-brother. He goes, get out of you. My father was a state trooper. I go, yeah. In a Marine in Vietnam, he went, oh my God. And I pointed to the ceiling, this guy. And I said, this is a divine appointment.

Holy cow. Wow. So you have this experience where you had this aha moment. And, you know, all of a sudden, you realize that you've been, you've been working with your brother. Was there any point in time in that brief experience where you kind of, you kind of, you kind of kind of halted the brakes and said to yourself, should I talk to him about this? Do you think that, does he think that this is going to be weird or anything like that? Or was it just like, I got to talk to him? The three years we worked together before it dawned on me, he was my half-brother. It just never, and the funny, ironic thing, God must have been looking down on us laughing because we rode together on the same truck for some sort of training one day, not six months before

this occurred. And I remember, like, he kind of annoyed me. I'm like, he was like that mascot of the company. And he, like, we pulled over. He needed to get a cashier's check and it took 20 minutes. And then he comes out of the bank. I'm like, dude. And at that time, where here we are riding together in the same truck on a route at

the time, didn't even know he was my brother. God must have been looking down on us, just laughing, like going, really? but that's that's really it for that yeah well man listen i think it's a really encouraging thing and i think it's kind of cool too uh and if you don't mind i'll share a story with you i'm sitting here thinking about uh my experience as you're telling me this um so my dad isn't my biological father and back in 2009 um i wasn't the most healthy individual as far as uh my mental state of mind. I was going through a lot of issues and trying to figure out who I was in the world. And I decided that I was going to try finding my biological father and meet him for the first time,

just to kind of see if it fills any holes in my life as far as like, I wasn't looking for a relationship. I was more looking for, you know, do I look like him? What am I going to die from? Things like that, you know, because I had a dad and I was very happy with my father. But I found this guy. And I find out that's something that I didn't really realize, which was that I had siblings on that side that I never thought about. Like, it never crossed the mind that I could have siblings. Wow. And so within like the first 12 hours of locating one of his ex-wives' email address, she's

inviting me and my wife up for dinner that night. And so I just, I'm Tony. I do things. So I just went up and I met her and I met my youngest brother, Danny. And from there, started a roller coaster meeting. all my other siblings. Well, when I met my brother and sister Donnie and Danielle, they're twins. And when I was talking with them, we were talking about the area and how I had used to live in the area as well when I was younger. And we connected dots that my grandfather was their school bus

driver for years. And it was just like, it was just like, wow. It's like synchronicity. Yeah, yeah. And so it was kind of cool in that sense. But yeah, man, you're, listen, When you had felt that tap on your shoulder, do you think that if that tap didn't happen, you wouldn't have been alert enough to kind of have that aha moment? I never thought of it that way. All I'll still testify to this day, there was nobody behind me. It never happened before again in my life. It had to have been an angel.

As crazy as that sounds, I've had a lot of synchronicities of my life. excuse me. So that's, I would call them mini miracles or whatever, but those two taps on my shoulder was just a wow. And you're right, it probably snapped me out of whatever I was doing. Just distracted me enough to hear somebody call Jaffe over. And that's, I looked at him. And it was just a divine appointment, really. Yeah. You know, I don't think it was a curb all that was intentionally throwing your way by your grandmother. She probably just got the names wrong. You know, she's an older woman. Yeah. Yeah. And there's actually more to the story since I first contacted you, Tony, okay. To meet up and talk about this. My half-brother Steve ended up leaving the company about

three years ago. And we never really kept in contact, but we had a mutual friend that I worked with and, you know, I got updates on him. My half-brother passed away in October. Yeah. So, you know, I just thank God for giving me that chance to meet him. I'm sorry to hear that, man. Yeah, thank you. How long did you know him?

We worked together for, I want to say, 12, 13 years. and he would ask me he's like what's what's our father's problem and the only thing i could say to him is Steve he has nothing to offer i haven't seen him in 20 years and he asked me that a few times over that period of time um but the one good thing you know being a Christian uh and he i try to pick his brain about his faith he didn't have any and uh i gave him the prayer of salvation, a little track that I used to carry around, and asked him a few days later if he said the prayer, and he said he did. So I believe, I truly believe he's in a better place. That's cool, man. That's really cool. I mean, you talk about divine appointments. Maybe that

a divine appointment years ago was for that very moment, you know? Yeah, I agree. It's, I mean, as obviously as somebody else who's a Christianist of God, as I believe him to be is omnipresent, which means that he can be in the past, present, and future all at one time. He knows when we're going to die, how we're going to die, and he also knows what makes us tick and what circumstances and environment would be best for us to come to acknowledgement of him. And maybe you being the brother was that mixture that God needed. And you just kind of walked in those, you just kind of walked that path and did what you felt like you should. And clearly, it was a good decision to make. Oh, absolutely. That, when that happened, it was, um, 2006, that

happened. It crystallized my faith. Now, I haven't gone to church in about seven years now, um, but with this whole pandemic, if you want to be honest, um, that's- trying to get my show taken down. I'm telling you, I want to find a church again because the church in general is being attacked and Christians and I'm pissed. I'm sorry, but. You know, I left the church myself, I'd say probably about three years ago. And I left because I just needed my space to clear my head as far as how I felt. the American church in general was treating God and their faith.

Yep. I didn't, I just didn't feel like people were serious in the sense that they just wanted the cupcake stuff. They wanted to feel good about themselves. And that was it. And that's not really faith. And so I kind of pushed back and I said, you know what? I'm done with this nonsense.

I don't need you guys to be a Christian. I don't need you guys to, you know, pursue God, which is true. That's all true. but one thing that I did grossly underestimate was the relationship side of things. I suffered greatly over the last, I'd say really the last year to a year and a half, spiritually because I didn't have that connection with other believers. Though my faith was strong and though I know who I am in my faith, I didn't have the reinforcement of others that are like-minded in my life that could kind

to strengthen me in the sense of not faith, but just like community, you know, there's something to be said for being around people who think like you do and sharpen your thoughts with their own and vice versa. And in these times that we're living in, I'll tell you, I had a conversation with the pastor, one of the pastors of the church I used to go to probably about two, three weeks ago. It was about 5.30 in the morning. He called me. because I get up at 4 o'clock in the morning to work on the podcast and stuff. So I told him, I said, you can call me anytime in the morning. He calls me, and we talk for about an hour.

And, you know, I was just telling him kind of what I just told you. And, you know, I said to him, you know, I think, you know, for my sake and my family's sake, I need to get plugged into a church environment. And I, I've, you know, basically said what I just said to you. But I kind of feel where you're coming from on that one, too, because with everything that's going on in the world, it kind of on a spiritual level for me is affecting me in a sense where it kind of awoken, it awakens something inside of me. And I'm realizing that the times that we talk about coming down the road, the things that we read about in the Bible, for the first time

of my life. Now, I know every generation of Christian has said, I can't imagine the world getting worse. The Lord's coming back in my lifetime and they have come and gone. But for the first time, I can just say like this, for the very first time of my life, I actually feel like that. The chess pieces are in place, yes. Yeah, I think they're being positioned and put in place. And it may not happen in my lifetime, but this is the very first time in my life that I feel the way others have felt in the past, where I can't imagine it getting any worse. Well, I can because I'm a futurist.

So I envision futures. and I really I dig into this stuff but I think what I envision the future being and getting worse I think it can happen in my lifetime so yeah

I agree things just happen so much quicker now because of the internet and it's just it's alarming you know these statues being taken down like really nobody's stopping them

it's almost like history is being erased and I I could get going. It's probably time for another podcast, but there's just the whole deep state thing just is mind-boggling. And I know a lot of people in the last few months that have taken the red pill because there was so much downtime. And they woke up. I'm reconnected with people I haven't seen in 30 years online.

And it's just, it's amazing. It's like you said, a community, whether or, it's a church or people like us and your listeners that were all cut from the same cloth. And that's why I wanted to give this testimony to hopefully give somebody out there at least one person. I'd be blessed. It gives them some hope because it was a miracle. What happened to me.

And that's why I'm sharing it, just to give some people hope. Yeah. And I think you did do that. I mean, I think just the idea of what you presented, I think, gives people hope. And you know, you mentioned about the red pill and people taking it. You're absolutely right. I think this is something that they misinterpreted and misunderstood. Because what happens when you lock everybody down in the middle of you pulling the fleece over their eyes? Give them time to think about things and you give them time to look into things

and start thinking for themselves. And this is this. So what you have is an entire world of people who they wake up in the morning, they go to work for eight to 12 hours a day, they're distracted at work, then they come home and they turn on the nightly manipulation programming through propaganda media, they get their dosage of the day, and they go to sleep, and they wake up the next day and do the same thing. Well, when you take their jobs away where there's eight to 12 hours of free time and day for them, they aren't going to plug into the propaganda all day long, and it's going to give them more time to detox their brain, and all of a sudden they start thinking for themselves, and people are starting to wake up.

I've seen it myself. A lot of people are waking up. I have friends who thought I was crazy three years ago. Now they're like, hey, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? Yeah. Yeah. Stock up on food.

You know, that's, I'm starting to do that three to six months' worth of food that'll last a few years. You just never know, because this hit us so fast. And in three weeks, life changed. Yeah, you know, and that's why I offer what I offer through the show and stuff. Very while I didn't talk about it because, you know, people, people get nasty online. And the first time I posted about my partnership with My Patriot Supply, people got nasty.

Not a ton of people, but enough that I was like, you know what, if you guys don't appreciate something nice I'm trying to do for everybody, then I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to subject myself to this nasty attitude from you. And so I didn't talk about it on the show or anything. But, you know, we're in times now where I'm looking around. I'm like, you know what? One, I can take it. Okay, I can take it.

You can think what you want of me. And two, I don't think it's a time to hold back opportunity for people to stock up on things that are actually made for emergency preparedness. Exactly. So, you know, prepare with the confessionals.com. Anybody can go there, prepare with the confessionals.com. And you can buy two weeks or four weeks worth of food supply. It comes in a black five-gallon bucket, which is obviously reusable for other things.

and the stuff lasts up to 25 years. So, I mean, I'm just talking about because it's worth talking about. And I think that people should know that they should start preparing, like you said, because the world is crazy right now. And, you know, when you start seeing people who are anti-gun going out and buying guns and droves, you know things are going downhill, big time. Yeah, I don't get that either. You know, they want to defund the police.

And yet they're also anti-gun. How are you going to protect yourself? Well, some of them aren't anymore. Some of them aren't because, you know, people are calling and saying to their friends, hey, can I borrow a gun? No, that's not how this works. You can't just borrow a gun. But hey, Richard, listen, man, I appreciate you coming on the show and just chat with me

a little bit, man. Hey, no problem. It's a pleasure just talking to you. I've been a fan for at least a year and a half. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. That's the best thing you can do to help the show grow is just share it around and

share it with your friends and family. because if you enjoy the show, I'm sure they'll enjoy it as well because they like you and you like the show. So it's a common denominator. And in the spirit of the Hatman story that Sandra shared today, I'd like to just let you guys know that we do offer beard oils on the website. Go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the store page and you'll see there's beard oils in there that you can purchase. And one of the beard oils that we offer is Hatman. And it's a really good scent. I wear it quite frequently. and I figured I'd share it with you guys and remind you that we do offer the beard oils there on the website. And until next week, friends, stay safe.

Take care and remember the truth was such a free, but first they'll piss you off. Bye. Forever will protect us, serve the cause until I die. Obey every single order, do the work and don't ask why. You gave me the job to lead them, bring them close and unify. You saved me from certain death, you made me strong and dignified. On on the face of the moon, working for you always, doing anything you asked me to do, live up to you, I'm loyal.

Nothing's sacrivolve, going a little crazy, grashing, but it's out of me. Send me away, send me where? Because it's never too late, never too late. Wish that I stayed, wish that I stayed with you.