The Confessionals - 345: The Snake Demon

Episode Date: June 8, 2021

In Episode 345: The Snake Demon, guest Colin joins the show to tell us about his paranormal experiences. In 2007, he traveled to Thailand, where one night he awoke to find a "shadow person" sitting on... top of him. From that point on, it seemed like the paranormal activity in his life ramped up significantly. He has had many odd experiences over the years, and has wondered if his connection to the paranormal is something that runs in his family, as his grandmother and mother have also witnessed strange things like ufos, shadow people, and memories of past lives. Colin previously listened to The Confessionals Episode 199: Miracles and Exorcisms with guest Hector, and has since joined up with him to pursue pushing back against the darkness in this world. SPONSORSGET Hello Fresh: https://hellofresh.com/12tony Promo Code: "12tony" for 12 FREE MEALS!!!GET StoryWorth: https://storyworth.com/confessionalsGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: https://simplisafe.com/confessionalsGet Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: https://bit.ly/2FbOhN5CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comText Community: Text "YUP" to 844-215-0819Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: merkificationFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkelSHOW INTRO Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3

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Starting point is 00:04:10 and don't miss a show. Now, this week we have Colin coming on the show. is in the UK, and he has a lot of different paranormal experiences that started off when he went to Thailand, and he woke up with an entity sitting on him. And from that point on, it snowballed in his life, and it became a very common thing. So let's get to Colin right now. All right, today we got Colin on the show. Colin, how are you, sir? I'm good, sonny. How are you? Oh, man, I'm doing good. So, Colin, before we get into anything, though, I wanted to let you kind of talk a little bit here about you're working with Hector from episode 199.
Starting point is 00:04:56 People, members know who Hector is because there was a member episode, but Hector had an amazing story and he has a ministry. And you actually, since hearing that episode, have joined his ministry, right? Yeah, yeah. So I heard the episode about 20 minutes in. I'm thinking, I hope they give an email address out because I'm going to message this guy. And then you did at the end. See, I dropped in an email because I was kind of looking for some kind of press.
Starting point is 00:05:23 have assistance around the time. He sent me one back, had a few sessions in, and it kind of went from there. Yeah, after to join the ministry. And it's smoothed something since then. So, yeah. Awesome. Yeah. So if you're a member, you want to hear that show, it's episode 199, miracles and exorcisms. And I think we started off that interview with telling our own story where before we started recording, Hector prayed for me and my brother Jack, who was in studio. And he's, I forget how it all went, but he's like, do either one of you have shoulder issues? And Jack's like I do. And he's praying. And like, Jack's face like is melting in front of me because he's feeling like this pain just leave his body. And it's like when I'm looking at his face, his eyes are real big. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:06:08 whoa, something's happening here. And Jack's shoulder was healed right there. And the last time I checked with Jack was probably about six months ago. And he said his shoulder still feels great. And it was bothering him for a while. And so it was really interesting experience going into the interview. And then the interview itself was just awesome. So, you know, people are members that can go ahead and check that out. But Colin, knowing that you're joined up with him and stuff, lay the groundwork as to kind of your life in this paranormal stuff that led you up to even contacting Hector. Yeah. So 33 now. Grew up in London, fairly kind of normal childhood. finished school, finished college.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So in 2007, I went traveling in Thailand with two other friends. Three and a half months, kind of going around Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, got to the end of it, and I thought, you know what, I'm not quite ready to go back to the UK now. I'm going to try to stay out of it. So came back to the UK for a month, got some money together, went back, ended up teaching over there, and staying over there for about seven or eight years in total.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So the weird stuff started. probably in around maybe August 2007. I was staying at a friend's house in Bangkok. It's in bed. It's probably about five in the morning. In Thailand, the sun rises fairly early, so I could see a little bit in the room. Suddenly, I wake up and I'm frozen.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm completely paralyzed. And there's a black shadow sitting on my chest, sitting on me. And this is something that I'll kind of get into the always kind of accompanies these kind of sessions, this kind of feelings. I had this surging feeling in my head, almost like your brain's been squeezed, this kind of vibration noise, just going through your head, going through your ears. And I knew straight away, this isn't good. I was angry. So I lift myself up. And all I can do, all I can think of to do to find a
Starting point is 00:08:10 is try and bite it. Try to bite its face. And then bang, I'm back in the bed, I'm laying down, and I can move. So that was a thing. the first sleep paralysis kind of experience there. And to be honest, I didn't know what to do with it. I knew something strange had happened. I knew something weird had happened. I hadn't had experience before. But I just put it to one side.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I thought, you know, okay, I'm not going to think about that. Let's get on with life. That was a bit weird. So a few months later, I'm on the internet. And I come across an article on sleep paralysis and kind of what other people have been experiencing around that. And they're talking about seeing a backshap. shadow, you know, darker than dark, sitting on top of you.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And I thought, yeah, that's exactly what happened to me. So in that moment, I kind of realized it wasn't just a dream. It wasn't just some strange hallucination. You're having like a half-sleep state. Millions of people around the world for years going back have been having the same experience and seeing the same figures, the same shadow figures. So, yeah, fair to say, I was quite interested then. I was looking into it.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But then over the next 10 years or so, the experiences have really ramped up to the point where I was having to sleep paralysis almost every night, sometimes two or three times a night for weeks on end, sometimes it would stop for a month, then it would come back. And what I came to realize is you could kind of tell when it was going to happen. If you had a bad day, you feel a bit low, or you just had this feeling before you went to bed a few hours before that something was going to happen. You could sense a presence. You could sense something in the room.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And it'd always start with that same kind of like a zoom, kind of sound in your head, some kind of certain feeling in your brain, and then you'd wake up paralyzed. I also started to connect dreams to these experiences. So it's almost like you would be presented a dream scenario, trying to get, trying to elicit a certain emotional response from you.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So it could be fear, could be something chasing you, could be something else. And then I'll clock it. I'll realize in the dream, this isn't right. There's something going on here. And then bam, you're in sleep paralysis. You know, you can see a shadow with a standing next to you or sitting on top of you.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And to be honest, you know, that was something that just happened nighttime. In the daytime, I try just to forget it, you know, try and just get on with the day. And then, you know, try and just have a good night's sleep. So this kind of followed me around going back and forth from Thailand to the UK. I remember once I'll stay in a friend's house and staying in the spare bedroom, probably about seven in the morning, sleep paralysis, and I could see these two shadows standing next to me, a tall one and a short one. So sometimes there'd be multiple figures in the room.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It even happened on the plane once. That's how I didn't actually see any shadows, but I'm sitting there in second class and you're frozen, sitting up in your chair trying to shake it off. It's almost like you know, I learned I could move, but it wasn't your physical body. It's almost like you're walking through tar through really sticky mud. And that kind of moves into the whole outer body experiences as well. So, you know, the experience had just got more and more wild.
Starting point is 00:11:33 You know, I'd be laying there off the bed, having an asleep in the afternoon. And I'd feel something just grab my ankle suddenly in that paralysis state. Or I'd be in my bedroom, back in the UK. I'd wake up frozen and I could hear it just banging upstairs, something slam the door open and jump onto the bed. And I'd literally just feel the mattress depress around me. And you'd be stuck like that for about 10, 20 seconds. And there's nothing you can really do about it.
Starting point is 00:12:04 You could, I realize if you try to make a grunt, like a noise, you can't say anything, but you can kind of make a noise, you can try and slowly kind of just pull yourself out of it. But yeah, that went on for a good few years. I would see, you know, just before I was going to bed, I'd be laying in bed kind of watching TV and that kind of half sleep stage. And I'd see like this black arm,
Starting point is 00:12:28 like a solid black, black and black arm coming out from over the top of the television. Looked like a human hand, looked like a human arm, a little bit skinny. And then you just kind of shake yourself and it's not there. So yeah, that was what, kind of those from 2007 onwards for about 10 years was like.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And then the outer body experiences started. So I would be laying the bed or have a paralysis attack. And then if you kind of relaxed or if you kind of just went with it, you didn't struggle, you start floating out your body. So the first time this happened, I was floating up to the ceiling and I thought, I'm going to bang my nose on the ceiling. And as soon as I thought that, I was back in the body, frozen for a few seconds. then I could move. Other times I'd be looking at myself in the bed or I'd be kind of laying down
Starting point is 00:13:21 beside myself kind of looking at the back of my head. And around that time, kind of going around Thailand and that you kind of get into Buddhism, you kind of learn about meditation. So I was kind of intimately meditating, I guess, and I'd heard about astral projection, things like that. And it was a bit of a surprise that this stuff had actually started happening. I mean, it's probably about a year before that, that had meditated and thought about, you know, is it possible to astraloject? And then randomly it just starts happening. Probably the crazy experience with the out of body is I floated up out of the body, through the ceiling, through the roof, looked down, saw the top of the house, looked up into the stars, and then literally shot through
Starting point is 00:14:07 space, shot through the stars like warp speed, like in Star Trek or Star Wars, you know, just going through the stars. And then it's like I was waking up the next morning. So I didn't quite know what box to put that one in. I kind of felt I'd gone somewhere. I kind of felt, you know, that was definitely something that happened then, but I didn't know how to explain it. And it was quite odd to kind of shoot through the stars.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And then usually have a sense of passage of time. Like you kind of know, I've slept for six hours. But it was like, bang, you're just waking up seven in the morning. after that. So around that time, I'd be waking up in the morning thinking, I kind of feel like I've been somewhere last one, but I just can't remember it. And then it got a little bit weirder. So I'd be waking up in the paralysis state, but I wasn't in the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I couldn't see the bedroom around me. So one time I woke up and I don't know where I was. It was quite light. I was laying flat down on my back. And when I came to, I was already leaning up. up kind of on my right side. And there was what I'd call a typical grey alien, staring into my face, about six inches from my face.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And it kind of looked almost like half reptilian. He didn't have scales. He didn't have overlapping scales. It almost had nodules all over its face. Typical, big eyes, small mouth, kind of slight nose. And it had like some kind of tech. on its forehead. It had some kind of tech on the left side of its forehead. And I just knew it was, it was evil. I knew it was happy that it was seeing me in this state because I was really angry.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I was trying to lean up to get towards it. I don't know what was happened before that, but it's like I came to midway through that experience. And then next thing you know, I'm waking up the next morning thinking, that's a bit weird. Better get to work. So, you know, I can only imagine going through that waking up and be like, well, that was weird. All right, kind of go to work. Yeah, just got to forget about it. And yeah, get your suit on. So, yeah, it was a bit odd.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Another time, you know, I'd be sitting in the evening. And at the corner of my eye, I saw a large spider like a foot across hanging in me there just like to the right of my vision. The second you look that way, it's not there. And also around that time, I was seeing. lots of like blue streets around people. So when people will pass, when I'll be kind of looking out the window, looking at, you know, the scenes of traffic going past, I would kind of notice blue streets hanging around people. And that lasted. It wasn't constantly, but that lasted for
Starting point is 00:16:56 about two, three years. And I've got no idea what that was. It doesn't happen anymore, but it was all around that, that kind of crazy period, as I call it. So another, kind of experience that stands out my mind. It must have been about seven in the morning in the UK, probably around 2013. I woke up
Starting point is 00:17:24 and again, I was really angry. I was in that paralysis state, but I was leaning up towards this thing. And this is what describes just a straight-up demon. It had snake eyes, vertical slit eyes, almost an old kind of gold-colored.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's teeth, its mouth was wide open. It was wide, wide open. A hundred sharp, fang-like teeth. And it just had its jaws just open, like it was trying to bite my face. It was no hair in it. Almost like a sickly kind of mottled yellowish brown color. And I was, yeah, it was trying to, it was like it was going to bite me.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Its mouth was so wide open. And again, I was, I was just so angry. I felt like I was been violated somehow. I just felt this thing is pure evil. And I remember looking into its eyes and there was intelligence there. And there was pure malice. So that was probably one of the strangest kind of in your face experiences I've had. And at the time, I didn't think it was a demon.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I don't know what I thought it was. I thought, you know, not being a strict Christian at the time. You know, you're heading in kind of other ideas. about the world. I was thinking, oh, it's some kind of interdimensional being. I don't know how I was trying to explain it, but again, I was just trying to put it to one side and just kind of hope it doesn't happen again.
Starting point is 00:18:54 So also around that time, I woke up, laying on my front, same paralysis state. And I saw this as like a translucent old man, just kind of halfway floating through the wall, just looking into my eyes as I woke up. One thing I started to realize after having these experiences is when you're in that sleep paralysis state, it wasn't my physical body moving. It was, you could call it your spirit body, your astral self, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:19:22 That is what could move. So with enough willpower, enough intent, you could actually get up. So, you know, when these things are sitting on top of you and you want to try and get up just to try and push it off, that wasn't the physical body. That was, it's almost like you're pulling yourself out of your physical body. and also I notice that you think really quickly. There's no kind of delay in your brain, like your neurons firing. It is just straight, you know things straight away. And I kind of get into that bit later on.
Starting point is 00:19:51 But that's one thing I noticed is you think very quickly. You almost just know things intuitively. You know things straight away. So around this time, I kind of spoke to my mum about this. And surprised at why she says, yeah, I had some like that happened to me when I was young as well. So she told me about, no, she was probably about seven or eight years old in a bedroom and she saw this shadow being appear first on the other side of the room and then kind of disappear, appear nearer, disappear, appear nearer, and then the pillow just got chucked off the bed. So I think that's the only thing she's ever kind of really had in that regards. But my grandmother goes wrong, has been through lots of strange experiences like that.
Starting point is 00:20:34 you know, she's seen UFOs before she even knew, you know, what a UFO was. She looked out of a window in London in the 40s and saw these things hovering over the houses. She didn't know how to explain it, but it was in the newspapers a few days later. And she also told me about when she was young, there was a room in the house where she slept initially. But she would feel something pushing the bed up at nighttime. And she had like a gherker knife. So she had swip her knife under the bed. try and stop it. Her brother as well had some really kind of terrifying experiences then.
Starting point is 00:21:09 She also had out of bodies. And she put an in to actually, she went to see a priest who blessed a statue and then she put it in the bedroom and it just stopped dead. It stopped flat for her. So when I kind of heard that, yeah, you know, other people and my family had also been through these types of experiences and I started to think a bit more carefully about it. So I met my current fiancé in 2014. And then literally within a few months, she started having the same experiences. She would start to have paralysis. She'd start to see shadows, really bad dreams.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And then we start to have shared experiences. So we'd both be hit with paralysis at the same time. So what I'd do, I'd be hit with paralysis. I'd come out of my body. or I'd find myself standing next to my body and I could just hear something coming up the stairs. So I'd run towards the bedroom door and just try and hold the door shut
Starting point is 00:22:08 whilst whatever it was trying to get in. And so the next morning I'm like, I had a mad experience last night. And she says, yeah, me too. Got hit with paralysis. And I kind of saw you getting up and trying to hold the door shut as someone who was trying to come in the room.
Starting point is 00:22:26 So, yeah, so she had experiences and that happened quite a few times. So, hold on a second. She actually, so if I'm hearing you correctly, you had the sleep paralysis, you had an out-of-body experience where you left your body to do this. And she had a sleep paralysis as well where she actually saw you leave your body. Like she could see your, whatever that is, a spirit or whatever, holding the door shut. Yeah. Yeah, exactly the same time. Wow. That's pretty incredible. Yeah. So you're feeling a bit bad about that. You know, she'd never add anything like this. I mean, well, I don't want to interrupt the whole storyline here, but,
Starting point is 00:23:00 But did she, was she freaked out in that moment and were you freaked out? I mean, that's, that's something that's on another level. It's not only are you having an experience, but you're having the same experience as somebody else and you're sharing it together. I think to her credit, she didn't show it. She didn't show it. She wasn't scared. She wasn't, you know, upset about it too much. She was concerned, definitely. I was more angry because I kind of felt, you know, I was used to it. But it's when it's kind of affecting your family or people you love that you start to get a little bit irritated. You start to get, yeah, really bit angry about that.
Starting point is 00:23:38 So, yeah, to her credit, you know, she didn't show any fear. She wasn't, you know, she didn't want to leave. She didn't know anything like that. And it probably hit her, you know, it probably happened to her about four or five times, I would say, over that period. But, you know, one thing, I know it's really kind of negative experience, all this thing's happening. in that last kind of that, that's, that spate for about 10 years.
Starting point is 00:24:00 But one thing it showed me is there's something more to this world. That's what really was impressed upon me. It's not just a physical word, as you see it, you know, you're born, you live, you die, that's it. I knew there was, if nothing else, that would have proved to me, there was something else going on. I wasn't quite ready then for the answer, but I knew. It was beyond a shadow of doubt, I knew there was other stuff going on in this world. So I took the positives from it. And I think she did as well.
Starting point is 00:24:29 It was, you know, she'd kind of growing a Christian as well. But she, I think it's also kind of proved to her that there's something else to do this. It's something else to this world. So, yeah, this kind of carried on for a few years. Activity kind of died down. Around 2017, I got a new job. We moved to house. And I just focused purely on, you know, kids and work.
Starting point is 00:24:57 tried to kind of put my mind of all this other stuff, and it stopped. I didn't have any paralysis, and I thought literally that's done and dusted. It's put to bed. It's not going to happen again, which I was fairly grateful for. I was quite happy about.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But in 2019, it picked up again. So we'd been in this new house, probably about a year and a half. The first thing that happened was I was sitting downstairs in the living room. If I'd have gone to bed, It's probably about 11 o'clock at night, watching TV. So sitting on the sofa, TV's in front, the stairs to my right with the lights on. And out of the corner of my eye, I just see a shadow and also a figure peek around the corner and then go upstairs.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And I thought, I looked to my sight. I looked at my side. I kind of thought, what was that? You try and tell yourself, it's just a trick of the light. You know, you just your brain kind of playing tricks on you. But invariably, you know, when you think you're saying, see something out the corner if you're right, you normally do. You know, I do a lot of late night fishing. So many times, you know, I think I'll see something on the beach. And I won't see it
Starting point is 00:26:06 immediately. Then five minutes later, I'll see a fox go past. So usually when I think I see something out of the corner of the corner of the night, I do. And I told my partner about this the next day. And she says, yeah, I'll sit upstairs in the bedroom. I think it's maybe even the day before that happened. And she saw a shadow kind of just fly by in the hallway. So it was like, Okay, I started to pay a bit more attention then. So I think Musco been about a week later, I woke up, and I had a blue light in my face. Literally for like a split second, I woke up,
Starting point is 00:26:40 and I just had this bright blue light in my face. And I thought it was a burglar. I thought someone was robbing the house, or some of the torch in there. So I got up, but no, nothing there. So I mentioned that to her as well. And she says, yeah, the other night I woke up, and I thought it was a car going past outside.
Starting point is 00:26:56 but it was a blue light reflected in the mirror because there's like a mirror on the other side of the bedroom. So she saw a blue light and she said, you know, I wouldn't call it an orb, but it was like a blue, small, bright light. So I'm thinking of myself, oh, no, you know, I haven't seen anything like that before. Let's, you know, let's not hope this is, this is starting again. You know, and around then, that's when I say to myself, you know, that's when it shifted. That's and everything changed. So around that time, the last, the kind of few months previous to that, I just had this feeling, come back to God.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You know, Jesus Christ, you know, just just look at this again. And it was just like a little voice in my head. You literally out of nowhere, just thinking, you know, look at this again. You know, look at the Bible again. Just look at this again. So the moment the penny dropped, I was at work on the 27th of December, 2019. I was alone. It was like skeleton staff.
Starting point is 00:27:54 It's only me in the office, sit in the computer. And I just had this emotional feeling just overwhelm me. I call it Holy Spirit conviction. I don't know what it was, but it was literally, you know, come back to Jesus. This is it. In that moment, I felt, I felt remorse. I felt really emotional. I felt repenters.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I just prayed, you know, I prayed out loud. And that was it. I was a Christian. I felt I had an experience. I don't know how to explain it, but from that moment onwards, I was a Christian and I knew my family, we were going to be Christians. So I got home that night,
Starting point is 00:28:34 I had a chat with my partner, and she's like, yeah, yeah, let's do it. So that's it. You know, start reading the Bible, started praying out now, start praying before meals, praying before bed. And we started just really trying to live that Christian life
Starting point is 00:28:48 and it's getting back into it. At the same time, this presence in the house we're just growing and growing. Coming home every night, it literally felt like I was entering a war zone. I could just feel it as I parked up. I could just feel this evil feeling
Starting point is 00:29:05 in the house as evil presence. And I didn't know what to do. I kind of looked on the internet, you find out about spiritual warfare, you know, what to be here for doing and experiencing oppression or these types of issues. So I went to kind of walking around every room
Starting point is 00:29:21 with the Bible, just praying out and out, you know, reading Psalm 91, and just trying to pray them away. Just asking me gospel protection, asking for angel, asking the Holy Spirit, just to fill the house, and just to watch over us. And it kind of felt I really angered something because that night had my first sleep paralysis in a long while. We were, as with my partner downstairs on my sofa,
Starting point is 00:29:46 watching a movie, I fall in the sleep. I kind of come to in that paralysis state and it felt like I was getting choked. I was literally, I could not breathe. And then she kind of notices me making noises. She shakes me. She kind of moves me. And I wake up.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I can just move. And I was gasping for air. Like I'd just run a mile. I felt my heart was beating out of my chest. And from there, then it just really kicked up again. My partner, she kind of helps me a lot when these things happen, she will notice either because I stop breathing normally, I'll stop snoring, or she'll hear me making noises, and that will wake her up, and then she'll realize he's having
Starting point is 00:30:28 a sleep paralysis session and shake me awake. So a few days later, I was going to bed. My partner was already asleep upstairs. And I'd also, I'd move my daughter into our bedroom. I kind of put a mattress next to my bed, just because I felt safer. I felt better with her there. And a partner's awake and she says, you know, just had some crazy dreams, some really, really horrible dreams. She didn't tell me what they were, but I could tell from the look of her face, it wasn't good. And I just had a feeling, you know, I'm going to pray right now. I'm going to pray for her. I felt that something was hanging around.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So got into bed. She fell asleep again pretty quickly. And I prayed for about 10 minutes, you know, just asking for protection, asking for the Lord just to watch over us. And then the second I said amen, I felt this, this force, just this dark shadow just come over me, like just envelop me. And I felt so dizzy. I felt literally like I was about to pass out. It was taking every kind of ounce of my will just to stay conscious. I try to prop myself up on my shoulder or on my elbow, just trying to sit up.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I grabbed the Bible next to the bed and just open it and just started reading, just reading anything. And this carried on for about that feeling for about 10, 15 minutes, and then I was just shaking. For about half an hour, I was just pale and I was just shaking. And what I feel is what I kind of felt was something had been messing with her, given these nightmares, these dreams, and it was so angry that I prayed against it and stopped it. And so it just went all out and all out sort of just trying to scare me, try and terrify me, trying to affect me somehow. So, you know, around that time, I'd be, I'd be waking up through the night praying.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I'd almost wake up and I'd be praying. Or I just wake up with like Bible verses going through my head. So I really felt, you know, the Lord would just watch over me that time. It was a war. It was a war zone. That's what it felt like that house. There was definitely spiritual warfare going on. It was like a battle.
Starting point is 00:32:40 You know, I knew these things were hanging around. I knew they'd been around for a long time for whatever. ever reason they were there are messing with me. Now it's a time for them to shift on. And then I started to, you know, the penny dropped demonic. This is a straight up demonic issue. So I'd made a decision around that time. You know, I know the power of the name of Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I heard stories. I heard people saying, you know, I rebut the singing the name of Jesus and it left. So I said to myself, the next time this happens, the next time I have a paralysis attack, or whatever it is, I'm going to rebuke that thing in the name of Jesus Christ. So it was about a week or two later. Daughter was still in the bedroom, middle of the night, about two, three o'clock in the morning. And I was awoken.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And I hear my daughter's voice just saying, Dad. And I'm like, yeah, kind of half a sleep. Oh, yeah. No reply to silence. So I go back to sleep and I hear it again, Dad. And I say yes. And again, no reply. So I start to drop off.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And then I hit Dad. And so I say, what? And literally that second it felt like a rush attack. I was suddenly paralyzed. I just heard this high-pitched metal kind of screeching sound. And this often accompanies like a paralysis attack. You can hear this noise like machinery, like just metal, just sheer and just great against each other.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And I had almost like multiple scenes of just terror just going through my mind in a split second. Frozen, I was laying on my back and I saw this dark mass, this shadow. coming out to my right from the ceiling corner, from the corner of the ceiling, and another figure just looming over the bed, a tall, seven, eight foot tall kind of figure, almost like a cloaked figure just leaning over the bed. And of course, I told myself what I was going to do immediately. I just said, Jesus Christ, help me.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I rebuke in the name of Jesus Christ. And it just, it just receded. As soon as I said that, it just sucked back into the ceiling and just away from me. And then all I know is I'm getting shaken kind of out of it by my partner. So the odd thing is, so for me, it felt like this lasted for about five seconds. So a few odd things here. Yeah, last about five seconds. Partner says, no, I was trying to wake you up for about 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And also it sounds like you were speaking in tongues. And also, that wasn't my daughter speaking. She could hear me in her, she was like half asleep. She could hear me saying, yes, yes, what? but my daughter was not speaking. So I think, you know, as I was rebuking that thing in the name of Jesus Christ, in my mind, kind of in that state, what was coming out my tongues was something else. What was coming out of my mouth was something else.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And yeah, like I say, that's when it's shifted from that moment onwards, I knew the power of Jesus Christ. I knew who I was in him. And I knew I could actually do something about this now. Before I was just a rag doll. You know, it was, I had no control over the. this, you would just literally a play thing for these things. But now as a Christian and kind of realizing your authority you have in Jesus Christ, your inheritance you have through Jesus Christ,
Starting point is 00:35:53 then I could do something about it or I could rely on him to do something about it. So yeah, so it was around that time. I heard your interview with Hector, episode 199 and I was thinking you know I'm just going to send this guy an email I hope he gives out an email otherwise I'm going to have to try and track him down or Facebook or something but in the end you did you gave out his address and so I dropped him an email and kind of saying yeah you know could we arrange some prayers um could be sure have to pray with my family you want to be back saying yeah um you know let's get kind of four to five sessions um in in the diary um so these happened around sort of may june time 2019
Starting point is 00:36:36 So there are four other kind of prayer warriors that join those sessions. So typically, you know, what do we'd be kind of opening prayer. We would kind of do a walk around the house because it was on Zoom. Obviously, they're in the States. I'm in the UK. And we'd be praying, you know, if they'd be praying, they'd be kind of rebuking anything. That's in the room, just, you know, tend to leave in the name of Jesus Christ, just asking for angels, for protection, for the Holy Spirit,
Starting point is 00:37:01 just to fill the room, just to fill it, fill the room with its presence. And things kind of changed then again. So I would no longer kind of have paralysis attacks, but I would just find myself out of body in the house at night. And I just knew that there were demons around. Sometimes they would take the form of a family member. And I'll say, straight, like I said, in that paralysis take, you just know things.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And I just knew these are demons. These are demonic beings. and I'll say straight away, I rebuke in the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave, you know, and they start changing. Their faces would start kind of swirning around and they're changing someone else, or they'd just be invisible. You know, one time was in the kitchen, and I just knew something would just block in the doorway.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And I don't know what it is, some kind of intuition, maybe it's the Holy Spirit leading you, but I just knew where these things were. And it always felt like you're clearing out the house. So it kind of really changed. My nighttime experiences went from sleep paralysis, getting frozen, shadows to now just been full on out your body around the house, casting these things out. I kind of felt I shook it. I kind of shook a lot of those attachments off.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I think one of the last kind of experiences kind of stands out for me is I'll just sit downstairs, happy day, you know, with the kids. And again, that kind of feeling just, just overwhelm me. A really kind of dark, dark, horrible feeling. It's almost like they're trying to terrify you, they're trying to scare you. I went so pale. My partner saw me kind of just walking up the stairs. I was just like, okay, just take care of it.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Went into the bedroom, grab the Bible, and I was just praying. I was just reading the Bible out loud, just praying. And it took about 15 minutes and it just went away. And I was left with this feeling of just peace, just utter peace and happiness. So, yeah, so around that time I came to realize, you know, the power of prayer, what would it can really do? and, you know, what you have actually as a Christian. Who's with you? Who resides in your heart?
Starting point is 00:39:09 The second you're born again, where you are, you're seated in heavenly places. We know what Jesus Christ died on the cross for for all our sins and to free us, free us completely. And to free you from the power of the enemy, from the power of the devil. And that's what I came to really, to really understand and rely on. So around July 2019, so growing up in the UK, Christianity is quite reserved. Christianity is quite, you know, you're kind of shuffling to your church on Sunday,
Starting point is 00:39:40 sing your hymns, you know, go home. That's about it. So the idea of a baptism in the Holy Spirit or anything like that was completely alien to me. It's something I'd never really heard of. But yeah, last summer, I prayed to receive the baptism. And I did. I spoke in tongues.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I prayed. I just repented. I asked for God just to fill me with His Holy Spirit, baptize me. and I just started speaking in tongues. And it felt like a really kind of special experience. It felt I didn't understand anything or didn't have any kind of meanings to me at that time.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But it felt like I was just praying out to heaven. I'm just crying out to God. And at the same time, my partner is in the kitchen. She's with my son and my daughter. And then they could hear it going on. And then she bends down to pick my son up and she blurs out suddenly in tongues as well. So whatever it was spread, she walks into the, into the living room and she could just feel the presence.
Starting point is 00:40:39 It just felt different in there. It felt, it felt, you know, really comfortable. And he just felt at peace. So that kind of put an end to those kind of experience in that house. So we then moved a few months off and that into this house where I am now. And then I'm kind of sitting down praying. I'm kind of praying to Lord. you know, I really want to do something for you.
Starting point is 00:41:05 You know, I can't have gone through these experiences for nothing. I kind of feel, you know, you're leaving me down the path. You let me, you know, he's the sovereign craze of God of all. Nothing happens without him knowing. And I was kind of what is the point of this? You know, you show me these things. I've realized who I am, who you are, who Christ is. And so I'm just praying, just, Lord, you know, reveal the path to me.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I want to do something. You know, I want to do something for you. And in my head, I was really wanting to do something. to kind of get into the deliverance ministry, you know, and trying to help other people going through these same issues. So about a week later, I was praying. And next day, and I was actually thinking about those prayer searches I had with Hector and the other prayer warriors.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Next day, I get an email from Steph, who's another sort of prayer warrior in that ministry. Actually saying, you know, Holy Spirit prompted, just wondering how you're doing. So I said, yeah, actually, we're crazy. I was thinking about you guys yesterday. it would be good to catch up. So she sends me an email back saying, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:07 you know, let's get a prayer in, kind of talk next week. And so for a day or two before that, I just had a feeling that I was going to join that ministry. So I didn't say anything to them. I didn't ask to join. I didn't say anything. So we had the meeting. It was with all the same guys that I met before that were in those previous sessions.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And they were saying, you know, we've been discussing this. You know, the last few months, your names were popping up just in prayer. how would you feel about joining the ministry? And in that second, just the, you know, the power of God would just impress upon me. This is exactly what I was praying for. To, you know, have the opportunity to get into a ministry like that. And I was like, yeah, you know, sign me up.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So I think the day or two days after that, we're straight into a prayer session. You know, people could be going through kind of, you know, things going bump in the night. kind of issues or kind of emotional issues or health issues. A few of those sessions we've heard chanting coming down the phone, like a demonic kind of chanting coming down the phone or things kind of speaking back to you, like mocking, kind of saying things back to you.
Starting point is 00:43:20 We've done deliverances where people will feel like a squirming. So what we're trying to do, we keep it very sort of heavily scripture-based. We invite the Holy Spirit in, we pray, you know, we let you know, you know, Jesus Christ is softening over this experience, is sovereign over this prayer session, lots of scripture reading. And so as we're kind of doing that, you always feel like you're wearing the enemy down,
Starting point is 00:43:41 whenever he's around that person, whatever issues are going through, they'll maybe start feeling like a squirming, coming up in their stomach, or, you know, one person started throwing up. She could just feel it. And then, you know, after it was done, she felt like she run a marathon,
Starting point is 00:43:57 she felt, she felt better. So I knew I could see it working. So from, you know, a year before where I had no idea what was going on. I wasn't a Christian. I was at the mercy of whatever these things were, these demonic entities, to where I was then. You know, I found Christ. I found my identity in him. And now we were doing something about it.
Starting point is 00:44:18 You know, we're actually helping other people going through these same issues. Yeah, and so we've actually had quite a few contacts through the confessionals. people who've heard Hector's interview on your podcast and kind of said, yeah, you know, can we arrange a session? So yeah, you know, one session is never the same as the other. They're always different. And we spoke to so many different types of people, so many different kind of walks of life and different kind of levels of society, lots and lots of different people going through some really kind of crazy stuff. So, you know, we'd always pray. We'd devote kind of a lot of time to pray for these people. one session I had.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I was, usually I tried to sleep before because it's usually about 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the morning, UK time. So I try and get some shot out before the actual session. And then one time I had a paralysis attack and I was lifted out of the bed and I could just hear this growling. It's almost like lifted up by minute.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I could just hear this growling from the side of the room. And it's almost like, you know, the enemy knows what you're going into. The enemy knows you're about going to a prayer session. And he's just trying to scare you. He's just trying to put you off. So yeah, that's kind of carrying on to this day. We're still having sessions, got sessions booked him.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I speak to my grandmother a while back. And she's had so many experiences like I said. And she told me one time, it must be years and years ago, her stepfather and her, and her stepmother, where a stepmother just passed away, well, she was in the process of passing away. She was at her house with a husband.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And before she, as she died, she saw her standing behind the chair. So she actually saw her kind of standing out of the body. And a few months later, she heard them in her head saying, can we come into you? So it was a stepfather and a stepmother asking to come into her body. and for some reason she said yes
Starting point is 00:46:24 and so she said oh you know you're nothing nothing bad happened from that I even felt them leave a little while later and I'm hearing this with my you know from a Christian perspective just thinking hang on a minute that sounds really dodgy that doesn't that doesn't sound right you know these demonic things are
Starting point is 00:46:40 absolutely tricksters and they what they desire is to come into human body so I'm kind of saying to this doesn't sound like I don't think that's your stepmother or stepfather that sounds like something trying to trick you, that sounds demonic. So I was kind of thinking, you know, I need to try and pray for it. I don't know how I'm going to approach this with her. I don't want to just, you know, come in and just say now,
Starting point is 00:47:02 I'm going to try and cast something out of you. But basically, I had a chat with her, you know, sort of brought around to that conclusion. No, this wasn't anyone you knew. This was a demonic being trying to come into your body. He's basically asking for your permission to come into you, trying to create some kind of emotional bond with you, trying to get you to open up to them. And so she greets her prayer.
Starting point is 00:47:27 So bring in the Bible, you know, pray to the Lord beforehand. We say, you know, Lord, just bless us with your present. Just send your Holy Spirit here. You know, led to her in a sort of prayer of repentance, even though she didn't know what she was doing. Just Lord, just forgive me for doing this. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:47:44 And then I placed my hands in her head. I said, you know, unclean spirit, whatever you are, whoever melita are of you, in the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave. Her legs went up, and we prayed like this for about 10, 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And she could just feel this buzzing, just this buzzing in her head. And it just got louder and louder. And so ask for the Holy Spirit. You know, Holy Spirit, can you please just fill this woman? Just let her feel your presence, Lord, just fill her up,
Starting point is 00:48:14 just fill her up from her toes to the top of her head. And she could feel this surging ting feeling, coming up her feet, up her knees, up her legs, up her chest, through to her head. And this buzzing feeling just popped out. And from that moment onwards, she was different. Straight away, she felt happy. She felt light. She felt, you know, she was singing. She felt completely different. And she looked different. It was like a shadow had just been taken away from her face. And she was glowing. She was literally glowing. Straight away, I just noticed it straight away.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And then people in the house were saying, you know, you know, you look different. You literally look like you're glowing. So, you know, and for a few days after that, she would just have these kind of uplifting kind of feeling. She literally filled with a spirit. She felt, she felt complete free. So I think for years she had these things inside that they never left. Say they desire to inhabit human bodies. We know that from the Bible.
Starting point is 00:49:11 You know, they view human body as a house and they don't give it up easily. So it was the Holy Spirit, just pushed that thing out. And she literally was glowing. So about 10, 50 minutes after that, I'm feeling kind of good. You know, I feel really happy, like she's freed. Because I'd also been having some more dreams as well, which I kind of felt was connected to that issue with her. And then my partner says to me, would you pray for me as well?
Starting point is 00:49:42 and I think she was kind of thinking we'll do it tomorrow but I just felt no let's do it right now straight up in the utility room and she had had this shoulder issue and these kind of almost like a cold shoulder like a hunch kind of like really tight feeling across her shoulders for about 10 years and also her jaw she had a really tight
Starting point is 00:50:06 tight feeling across her jaws which was painful pretty much all the time and she thought this was from like her day study and kind of leaning down too much and kind of writing on a rope pad. But she says, yeah, you know, would you, would you pray for me? So I was like, okay, let's do it now. We pray to the Lord. We just thanked him for who he was.
Starting point is 00:50:23 We thanked him for his word, for the salvation, Jesus Christ, for letting us know who we are in Christ and for his Holy Spirit. We just ask for the Holy Spirit just to be present, just to fill this room. Put my hands in her head, started praying, and she got dizzy. She, she kind of held on something just to stay. up, just saying, you know, uncle's spirit in the name of Jesus Christ, whatever's attached to this woman, I command you to leave. And she just kept on feeling dizzy. So I take my hand off and pray again. And then she just felt that same tingling feeling. Asked him for the Holy Spirit
Starting point is 00:50:58 has to come in. She felt that same tingling feeling, just coming up a whole body, this kind of warm feeling, just rising, rising, rising. And then the pain just left us straight away. literally immediately. Her shoulders relaxed. She was standing differently. There was no more pain. She said it felt like the blood returned to her shoulder.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Like there was warmth there again and a jaw which is completely free. And she was glowing. Like my nan, she was literally glowing. Her face was light. And I saw this again later on before. But I looked at her and I was thinking, you look different. It's almost like again, like a shadow being
Starting point is 00:51:33 removed from your face. She was lighter. looked light. And that carries on to this day. That pain's never, never come back. And jaw pain has never come back. And, you know, she can't explain it, apart from saying, you know, that was the power of God.
Starting point is 00:51:51 That was the power of God. Maybe something had been attached to her because, you know, I think demons do cause, you know, from the Bible, they cause physical afflictions. They cause illnesses. They can cause emotional turmoil, emotional trouble. And they can kind of almost like a lot of. in certain areas in the body and just just cause trouble. That's what they're here to do, is to kill mainly destroy.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It will just to stop usurping Christ effectively. And, you know, power of God, the power of Holy Spirit, and name of Jesus Christ, that thing was just gone straight away. There wasn't any throwing up. There was no screaming. There was no vithing around, nothing like that. It was just an easy, done. And she felt good.
Starting point is 00:52:31 So that was just amazing for me to kind of go through. That's the first kind of hands-on deliverance. I've kind of done. So it felt it felt like a very special thing to do that for people you love. So going off from then, I've had a few kind of other strange experiences,
Starting point is 00:52:51 not like a full out paralysis, but really strange dreams, you know, things trying to get into the house. And they're always, you know, I always just rebuking the name of Jesus Christ and it stops or they go away. So for the last week, I've really been feeling, You know, I've been waking up, been dropping off to sleep, waking up about an hour later,
Starting point is 00:53:08 I just feeling this presence in the room. I pray and it seems to go away. But the other night, I wake up and I'm lucid dreaming. I'm waking up in the dream. It's daytime. I stand up. I walk to the window in the bedroom. And I look outside and there's two pine trees there.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And I just know there's two demons in these trees, just standing in the bushes, hiding. So I open them with I pointed them and I say, I see you. In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave. And they kind of come out and I can sort of half see them. They're almost like translucent. You can kind of see their figure. You kind of see what they look like, but you can't actually see them solidly. And then I kind of realize I can feel the bed.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I'm standing up looking out the window. But my body, all my physical sensations, are telling me I'm in the bed still. It's almost like a vision. It was almost like what I was seeing was being overlaid. You know, I was seeing something different about my body was thinking some
Starting point is 00:54:15 another area. So I put my hand out and I can feel my son's hand. So I'm thinking, this is really weird. My eyes, everything my eyes are telling me I'm standing up looking outside the window and it's daytime. But actually, I could put my hand out and I can feel the bed, I can feel my son next to me.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I don't know what that was. Some kind of dream scenario, some kind of dream they've given you some kind of vision, I don't know. But then suddenly I hear, I hear this voice, the creepiest, nastiest kind of, you know, like Gawlem out, Lord of the Rings kind of voice, just say, we're going to kill you.
Starting point is 00:54:52 At that second, I'm just literally dragged out the bed from my ankles by these two creatures, never saw them solidly, but I had the sense they were small. almost like children. They were small. Straight away, I'm on the floor of the bedroom. And one's choking me.
Starting point is 00:55:10 One's kind of, I'm laying on my back. One is sitting on top of my head just choking me. I can't feel the hands around my neck. The other one's holding me down. And I'm just thinking, what is going on? I start trying to say, I rebuke you, you know, but I can't say it because I'm being choked. I can't get the word rebuke out.
Starting point is 00:55:27 So I think, you know what? I'm not going to struggle. I'm going to call out to Jesus Christ. I'm just going to call to Jesus Christ. And I just start saying, Jesus, Jesus help me. Jesus Christ help me. And then this golden light appears from the other side of the room. And in that second, all I want to do, I just want to see something good.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I just want to see something of God. I want to see an angel. Whatever it is, I just want to see something good. Because these things just felt absolutely evil. And yeah, this golden light, not crazy bright, not dazzlingly bright, just this golden warm light just fills the room from my left. side and I see this thing just shoot up, just shoot up, just float up straight through the ceiling. And then that's it. I'm in my bed kind of thinking, well, that was crazy. But I think what was kind of important to me about that, that kind of experience was I didn't
Starting point is 00:56:24 rely on myself at all. I sat back and I thought, I can't struggle. You know, these things are too strong, can't struggle. I'm just going to wait for Jesus Christ. I'm just going to call on Jesus. whether it was Jesus, whether it was an angel that appeared. But something happened there, something good, you know, something of God happened there.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And this light appeared and it just drove them away. You know, and then, yeah, that was about five days ago. And the last few nights, I just felt, you hadn't really be getting that much sleep, but,
Starting point is 00:56:56 yeah, you just wake up, you feel this presence and I just straightway pray and I just feel at peace. I just feel better. And so, yeah, that's a,
Starting point is 00:57:05 That is a summary of what's been going on since since then out 2007. Jeez, man. So that is a jam-packed life in just, what, 13 years, 14 years? That's crazy, man. Do you think that whatever happened in Thailand spawned this whole thing? Or do you think that whether you were in Thailand or not having that initial experience that this would have happened? I've often thought that.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I've often thought that. I don't think so. I don't know. It's not like I kind of got into anything crazy out there, you know, any meditation, any temple, there's anything around that time. But it was a bit strange. It did just happen first time in Thailand.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I'm not sure, to be honest. I mean, I know I had things happen when I was younger. I know I had really, really bad dreams. Literally every night until I was about five, which I can never remember, but I know it was pretty terrifying. So, no, I don't know what triggered it. And what was all he just, yeah,
Starting point is 00:58:04 from that moment on was he just followed me around. it was um yeah i i can't i can't explain it yeah and you know what i found interesting is throughout your stories a couple of times you said that you just got really angry um do is that like a self-defense mechanism in you that you naturally like if you're scared you get angry or is there is there something more maybe supernatural about that was driving you into this like irate rage i don't know what i tend to think maybe it's just a natural thing it's like a guy thing you know you you can't do anything so you try and fight back. Because what I realized is I was powerless
Starting point is 00:58:41 until I came to Christ. I was powerless, trying to do that on my own, getting angry, trying to bite these things or push them away. That was all futile. There's nothing I could really do because it didn't stop anything. It was only when I came to Jesus Christ and I'm relying on him that I could actually do something about it
Starting point is 00:58:58 or that I could rely on him to do something about it to save me. So I think, to be honest, it's probably just a natural reaction and it happens at first, I'll be honest, it was a bit scary. You know, it would happen three, four in the morning, and you wouldn't really want to go back to sleep because it could happen again. But after a while, you just kind of get used to it. And that's when I think you start to get a little bit irritated
Starting point is 00:59:22 because you just kind of want it to end. Yeah, and the whole biting thing, that you said that a few times too. I've never heard anybody say that. That the reaction was to bite it. I mean, didn't your mom ever teach you not to bite? I mean, I've never heard people say that multiple times that the only thought they had was to try biting it. I mean, where'd that come from? I think because I felt it was easy to move my chest and kind of my body upwards than my arms.
Starting point is 00:59:58 You know, it's so much effort when you're in that state to actually move to try and do something. I think that's why you feel like your arms are literally being held down. The only thing you can do is try and buy it. It's trying to try and get them away that way, I think. Man, that's interesting. That's really interesting. Now, here's another, this, I know these three questions have been very random, but because you're in the UK and, you know, I hear people's stories and, what, 90% of
Starting point is 01:00:30 the audience that, you know, is on the show. or people who are on the show are from the United States, when whatever it was told you that it was going to kill you, you heard that audibly, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, laying next to me in the bed. Now, this actually might have an actual deeper, deeper meaning behind the question. Actually, now I think about it, did whatever you hear, did it have an accent, like a UK accent?
Starting point is 01:00:58 No, I couldn't put an accent on it. It wasn't human. it didn't sound like human vocal chords. It was like, you know, like Golan Out Lord of the Rings. It was like, we're going to kill you kind of voice. It was really deep and just, just evil sounding. Okay. I didn't have an accent.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I couldn't place an accent on it. Because, you know, I just, when you said that, maybe it's because, you know, to me, you have an accent. And obviously to you, I have an accent. I hear you say that. And I was thinking to myself, I wonder if it actually had a UK accent because, you know, these things, you know, they appear to people in certain forms. And, you know, obviously, if you're in the Middle East and you have a demonic attack and it speaks to you, it's going to speak to you in your native language that you understand. And I just, I was thinking, I wonder if, you know, if it's speaking to you in a native language that you would understand, does it have an accent to or what? I didn't know. I mean, it's an interesting point. I mean, I think these things are very clever. have been around for a long time.
Starting point is 01:02:01 They're extremely deceptive and very cunning. When you hear about the different ministries and kind of people out there in foreign countries doing these things, when these demons will kind of speak through someone in their own language, a language that person does not know. See, I think no matter what, you know, who they're coming through, who they want to speak to, they can speak in a language. They can get their point across to you. Yeah, that's interesting, man. Listen, I think it's really cool that you linked up.
Starting point is 01:02:30 up with Hector and now you're part of that ministry. And the way it happened, you know, you wanted to, but you didn't ask. And then they asked you. And I, and just hearing your side of things, the fact that so many people have reached out to Hector through this show, I think is really, really cool, man. And, man, I appreciate you coming on and sharing these stories. It's really fascinating. Yeah. Cheers, Tony. I mean, yeah, we've got loads of kind of context through your show, people listen. So, yeah, it's great to kind of speech your listeners that way. And do you mind if I give out our, our website and our email address, just in case anyone's kind of having issues like this, they kind of feel they want someone to pray for them.
Starting point is 01:03:06 They feel like going through some kind of demonic oppression or anything like that. Yes, go for it. Yes. Email is the Centurium 813.com. And the email address is the Centurion 813.g.m. Could you spell that for the listening audience so they know for sure that they're emailing and getting the right spot? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:27 So it's the C-E-A-S-E-A. N-T-U-R-I-O-N-8-13-the-numbers.com. Awesome. And it's the same for the Gmail email address as well. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share the show.
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