The Confessionals - 347: Animal Mutilations

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

In Episode 347: Animal Mutilations, we talk with Mark and then Amber about the bizarre experiences they've each had. After his grandfather passed away, Mark moved into his grandfather's house as a young boy, where a lot of weird things happened to him. What scared him the most was a night as a teenager, when he woke up to see the imprints of hands making their way across his bed! Following Mark’s stories, Amber tells us about strange animal mutilations occurring in her area. She also describes how something once coaxed her up a mountainside, moving further and further up the mountain the closer she tried to get to it. Later on, Amber was called back to the same area as part of a search-and-rescue team for a man who was discovered frozen to death; upon witnessing the scene, she was left wondering if whatever thing had been drawing her up the mountainside was responsible for that man’s death.SPONSORSGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: https://simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET StoryWorth: https://storyworth.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: https://hellofresh.com/12tony Promo Code: "12tony" for 12 FREE MEALS!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: https://bit.ly/2FbOhN5CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] Community: Text "YUP" to 844-215-0819Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: merkificationFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkelSHOW INTRO Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3

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Now, this week we have a two-part show. We have Amber and Mark coming on the show sharing their stories. So let's get to it right now. All right. Today we got Mark on the show. Mark, how you doing, man? How's going, Tony, brother? Man, I'm doing good, doing good.

So, Mark, you got some spooky stories for us because I don't show up for stories that aren't spooky. First of all, before I get into anything, buddy, I'd like to say the show is awesome. Great work. I run heavy equipment for a living, so it helps me get through my day. That's great, man. So, Mark, you contact me. You're in Canada, and these things that happen to you, it kind of circles around this house, but even before you were born. So from that point, can you draw the picture as to what is going on with this house?

Who experienced what? And what have you experienced throughout your life? Okay, so we'll start at the beginning. First off, I don't know if this has anything to do with anything or if it's irrelevant or what, but my hometown in Newfoundland, pretty much the whole town is built above Indian barrel of ground. No, I don't know if that got anything to do with any of this. I just thought I'd mention that. Yeah, it usually does.

Yeah, so anyway, way back before I was born, my father, his dad built this house with his bare hands, whatever. and like he grew up and a lot of stuff happened to him back then even way before I was born. So they'd be in the house, he'd be upstairs sleep, but on downstairs they had like a kind of a wreck room a little bit with a like a pool table and TV or probably not TVs, but a pool table and stuff like that, probably projector. But anyway, he used to be upstairs in his room and like he would hear like people. playing pool 3.30 in the morning. Like you hear these pool balls going and stuff like people breaking the triangle and all that stuff like that. And all that kind of stuff went on. Little stuff anyway. And then one night he was upstairs and he come, I don't know, he heard some kind of emotion going down on to go downstairs. And this was like I said, between three and four in the

morning. And when he went downstairs, all the coverts were all. open in the kitchen. And like if you looked in my, my grandparents' kitchen, it's like a whole China cabinet's everywhere. So it was like probably 20 different covers were open. And when he turned the corner down to bottom of the steps, there was two wine glasses hovering on the table. And when he turned, they both dropped and they smashed.

So actually, two of those stories are probably the only things that I can think of that I remember from him being in the house. But okay, so we'll go into now, like when I was born. So like when I was born right away, we, not much stuff happened because we weren't by that house, but around when I was seven years old, we moved into this big yellow house. It's called, we call them Saltbox albums. Anybody here that's from Newfoundland or back east to understand what I'm saying. They're pretty much like a square, a big square house, like very old. And my house was old in particular because it used to be an old train station.

And the train tracks got taken out. And when the train tracks got taken out, they changed it into a house. So my parents bought that. And in this house, this is where stuff started happening to me. It might have been, I'm not having a couple months after living there. Like 3 o'clock, 3.30. Actually, before I keep going, I'm going to say everything that ever happened to me has been between 3 o'clock and 4 o'clock. Everything that's happened to you happened between 3 and 4.

So an hour time span on any given day is when things kick off. Early in the morning, yes. Like, you know, the devil's hour, as they would say. But so anyway, at this house one night, I, growing up, actually, before I start that, growing up, I dealt a lot. I had a very hard time of sleep paralysis. So sleep paralysis was a big deal in my life. Like it affected me a lot, like kind of a torturing thing, actually. But so this started in this house.

But Tony, it wasn't like how they say sleep paralysis. It's like, you know, they say you can't move when you do it. The difference between me, I was able to move a bit. So what would happen is I would be laying down. I'd wake up or, you know, maybe off and on sleep. And then once three o'clock come, somewhere between. between three, four. All of a sudden, I'd be laying there,

and my whole body would start shaking. And I just, I had no control over it. It would just shake. Almost like, you know, my conscience and my brain knew there was something going on, but me personally, I didn't. So I had no control. Everything would start shaking. And then I would start hearing a loud metallic humming noise in my ears.

And it would get so loud that I would, I couldn't move my lower body, but I was able to move my arms and my head a little bit. Almost like gravity was full out on my lower body, but on top it wasn't as bad, and I was able to struggle a little bit. I would pull the covers over my head because I was only young. And I would stay there and the noise would happen,

and then all of a sudden I wake up. It'd be more, you know, which makes no sense. I mean, how do you fall asleep with a big racket like that? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's kind of hard to. So, anyway, that went on for a while. So there was one night, my mom, she was sitting in the living room. Now, if I can just paint the picture for you in this old house that we lived in, if you were to walk across the hallway and you would have to make a total 180 degrees to go up the stairs, there's a doorway on the right and to be opened.

And if you were sitting in the couch in the living room, you'd be able to see through that doorway and see the stairs going up. Am I making sense? Yeah. Okay, so one night she was reading and she seen this black shadow bolt across the door and then go up the stairs. So, you know, she ran up the stairs coming to check. There was nothing going on. And we were, you know, me and my brother, we had bunk beds. We were laying in bed, obviously.

So she didn't wake us up or nothing like that. And she went back downstairs. Later that night when she went to sleep, between three and four again, she was. awakened by screaming, not loud, but kind of like a struggle type of scream, you know. So she gets out of bed, she starts running toward her bedroom, and she looks in and there's nothing going on, nothing at all. You know, one of us are in bed and the bunk beds. Everything looks fine. So in the morning, she asked us if we remembered anything or like, what was going on and we didn't have a clue what she was talking about, right?

So I mean, yeah, that's kind of weird. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know. So that's pretty much the story is that house. So I guess now we're going to get into the original house that my parents grew up in. We're going to get back to that house. This is around now where we're going to move right in there. So from there, we moved back into my dad's old house that he grew up in because my

grandmother just passed away or my grandfather sorry he passed away and what we did was we moved in and we built her an apartment onto the house so all that happened we moved in you know months went by this stuff that still happened to me like the the paralysis the loud noise in the ears all that stuff that's still going on so there was one night this was it was happening and i could feel it coming on and I'm struggling in the bed and every time this happened it always used to struggle to try to turn over because the way I am I want to see what's going on you know something's happening so I'm struggling and struggling and I go to turn over and when I turn over I finally break it I sit up my bed and I look and at the foot of my bed I see like it just imagine if somebody

was kneeling on her hands and knees on the end of your bed You see the inference. So that's what I seen. And it backed off a couple of, I don't know, a couple feet. And then it went out my door. The reason I know it went out the door is because I had the door cracked of it. And I had a flag by the side of the door. And I can remember the flag and everything.

It was a power slave flag by her maiden. And yeah, when the flag rippled and it went out, the door shut. Wow. So, yeah, that, you know, that was pretty freaky. Yeah, I'd say. so. Could you actually see the hand prints, like, fingers? Yeah. You could, you could tell what it was. Like, I looked at it and you could see two knee prints and you could see, you couldn't, obviously, it didn't look like it wasn't pure fingers, was down on a sheet, right? But you could tell, like,

the fingers, like the difference between the knees and the fingers, like where the knees were, it was a circle, like a perfect circle almost. And then you could see where the hands were, it was wider. and like, you know, like a handprint more. Yeah, so that was pretty, that was pretty crazy. I don't know. I never ever thought much about it, to be honest with you, I always chalked it up with sleep paralysis, but to my understanding, from actually just listening to your show,

I know that you're usually with actual sleep paralysis, you're not able to move. Yeah, usually. I mean, or at least most your body. Yeah, so like I could move. Like, this wasn't a thing where I was stuck paralyzed in it. Like I was awake. All of these experiences, I was awake and I was conscious.

And I was able to move. It was like I was fighting a gravity on me. So it's like a force was holding me down, right? Yeah, it's weird, man. That's not even the weirdest thing. That's like, so I don't know, a few months after that, same thing happened. I'm laying in bed at 3.30 in the morning. And I don't know, some time between 3 and 4.

and the same thing happens, but I don't got the metallic noise in my ears this time. There's no noise. I'm just, I start shaking, and I'm waiting to hear the noise, and I don't hear it. So I'm like, okay. So anyway, I'm struggling. I can move everything above my waist. I'm struggling, I'm struggling, and struggling. And I end up being able to move over, and I can crawl myself off the bed.

I literally, like... Turned like I reached down on the floor and I was grabbing on the bottom of the bed and I'm pulling myself down And I wouldn't fully on the ground like on the floor, but I was almost there and all of a sudden everything just lifted and let's stop But I had no control over nothing. I got it in a bed and I stood up now like I knew what was going on Like I was totally conscious, but it wasn't like, I don't know, it's hard to explain it. It was like I didn't, like I didn't really, I wasn't aware of nothing. Like I didn't care what was happening if that makes sense. Like, so anyway, I just got up and I started walking.

Actually, probably the best way to put it is if you were sleepwalking, but you were totally aware that you were sleepwalking. So I walk out and I walked across the hall with my parents' bedrooms right across. across the hallway. So I walk over and their door was open and I literally standing in doorway and I stare into the room for five minutes. I'm standing there. And I don't know, like, I don't know why I did it. I was just standing there, right? And then all of a sudden, about five minutes past, I'm just standing there. I wake up my bed. Okay, so that's not, whatever, you know, I was like, okay, that was a dream. That's what I thought. Anyway, an hour later, we get up, we go to breakfast and all that.

Well, I'm downstairs at the table eating breakfast with my parents. And my dad looked at me. And he said, Mark, he said, I had the craziest dream last night. And I'm like, well, what was it? And he said, I dreamt that I woke up and I looked over at our door. And I seen you standing up and there was a big, huge black shadow standing up behind you. So I'm like, I didn't even say anything. him but I mean I know there's such things as coincidences but I don't know yeah what

do you think don't that doesn't seem like a coincidence to me man it seems like your dad thought he was dreaming but did you ever tell him that you actually were there oh yeah I actually I last week I called him to talk to him but all this stuff to make sure I wasn't forgetting anything because I told him I was coming on this show and like me and him talked and everything like that we talked all about it yeah So, oh, man. Did your dad, mom, anybody else have the level of experiences that you've had in that house? I wouldn't say, like, me and my dad on that experience, that was probably the biggest.

Well, actually, there's a story that comes toward the end that's pretty crazy. But when it comes to seeing something between me and my dad, that's probably the biggest. There was one time my mom said when she was growing up, but this wasn't even this house. She was going to the washroom, and she could see down into her parents' room. The washroom was right on the inner side of the hallway, and she's seen this hand come out, and it was waving her to come into the closet. Now that's the only thing I can think of. I don't know if they're not telling me other stuff, but, you know, I'm just telling you what I know.

Yeah, so. Well, that's scary. That's scary. Yeah. And you know, that's not the first time I heard that. I've heard a couple stories of people saying that they've woken up in the night and they see like a hand or some kind of thing guiding them to the closet saying, come here, come here. Yeah, so. No go.

And like, let's, I'm just going to, my parents are skeptics. They don't, you know, so it's not like they want to make stuff up like this. Yeah, I mean, how, I mean, I don't understand how that's, how that works or how that's possible. You know, if somebody sees what your mom saw, how can she remain a skeptic? Yeah, well, see, my mom is, she's really religious. So everything that happens, that's unnatural. She just goes the way of, you know, the good sign from God or something, like, which is fine. That's, that's okay, which we're going to get into a story like that.

Like I told you the latest thing that I can tell you, yeah, that'll come into that, like, perspective. Okay. Yeah. So that was, I guess that would be pretty for me, I guess, in that house, I guess. Yeah, yeah, that would be the last thing for me because I moved out. I joined the military not long after that, and I moved out and I moved away. Um, yeah, so I guess the next story would be, uh, so a couple of winters ago, they're still living in the south, but to this day.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So a couple winters ago, a couple of Christmas is actually, um, actually I should back up. Um, back in 2005, 2000, yeah, 2005, my grandmother on my mom's side passed away. So that's my other grandparents. Not the house we're living in grandparents, but the other side. So she passed away.

And anyway, my mom was really broken up about that. And there was some, I'm not sure what the connection was, but there was some kind of connection between her and butterflies. So whenever my mom would see a butterfly come around, she would think that was a sign that her mom was looking over her. So there was a Christmas a couple of years ago. where somebody bought my mother, it was a frame with a butterfly amulet inside the frame. So anyway, it was wrapped up underneath the tree.

Actually, no, it wasn't wrapped up, it was just put underneath the tree. And anyway, they went out down to my godfather's house. They went down for the night, you know, Christmas Eve, all that stuff. And they come back and they find that the, the, frame with the ambulance is laying on a pillow on the couch where they didn't leave it. There were nobody in the house. That's fine. Whatever, you know, somebody might have forgotten that they put it there, you know.

So they put it back underneath the tree. Then my parents went downstairs and my brother, they all went downstairs to my grandmother's apartment that we built on that house. They were down there for an hour, hour and a half. They come upstairs again. and the amulet, the little butterfly amulet is outside of the box, and it's literally laying on the pillow. So they're like, okay, now they're starting to get a little freak out, right?

But so they put it back, put it back again. Next day, when they wake up, they find the frame. Now it's in the middle of the floor. So my dad, he got fed up. he goes, Franz Zann, that's my mom's name. He says, wrap that up like a present so we can stop this from moving around everywhere. So they wrapped it up. And in the morning, they got up next morning.

They couldn't find it nowhere. The little butterfly ambulance was out of the frame and they couldn't find it. So they couldn't find it for a whole week. One morning they get up, they come downstairs. My brother's stalking was right by, if you walk down our stairs from like my parents' stairs, right from the bedrooms and everything. There was a fireplace. So when they walked down the stairs,

my mom noticed she looked into, my brother's stocking was all the way close to the stairs. She looked in there. The amulet was put placed in my brother's talking. Wow. Yeah, it moved around for a whole week. Jeez. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, man.

Yeah, I mean, I just, I'm sitting here scratching my head and having all these things happen and the skepticism that's still there, it seems to me like it's more willful than anything. It's like choosing to be skeptic. Yeah, well, that's what I mean. And that was my point about how she says she's a skeptic,

but she can have all this stuff happen to her. And she just, she believes, I'll be honest with you, she believes that it's her mom. But I don't know, but all the stuff that happened to me. You know, there's lots of stories, man. in that house like uh stories of uh when i used when i lived there still like stuff falling off the shelf when i be sitting in my room like there it's like the house the whole house is just a it was just a whole time of terror for me because i don't know if it was like

that for anybody else like my brother never ever said nothing but the whole time for me like i don't know i barely got any sleeping at those because every time i slept i would have something waking me up or that paralysis with that loud noise in my ears or something, right? So I don't know. What do you think, Tony? I don't know what to think, man. I think that there's something to do with that Indian burial ground that hasn't been explored enough in thought. Yeah, it could be, man. Well, a lot of people in my town, most people are native, right? But most people have native blood and they all have their native status. I know for a fact that

like natives, they don't like stuff being built on their burial grounds and stuff. I know that. Yeah. Well, I mean, who would, right?

I mean, if your dad, you don't want somebody building a house on top of you. But, like, he didn't know, but like I said, where,

uh, the whole land is all native. I mean, who really knows what you're building on top of, right? Like, we have graveyards there that are a native graveyards and stuff that we don't touch.

But, I mean, if you have that, do you really know where everything is buried? You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, you're talking about centuries of death. You certainly don't know where everything's buried. No, for sure. 100%. Yeah. Do you guys have like those Indian burial grounds where it's like, it looks like mounds? No, nothing like that is say just literally just like graveyard. I'm Mark Graveyards. It's mostly what it is there. Gotcha.

Yeah. So all that stuff. Man. So with the experiences that you've had, to me, the most terrifying thing would be to see after being held down by an unseen force, seeing that said unseen force crawling off the bed only by seeing it, meaning the imprints it's leaving on the bed. That's terrifying. Yeah, it was, it was very terrifying. How do you even sleep in that room again? I don't know, man.

Honestly, I was young. Like, I, you know what? I was, I knew I was, honestly, it comes on to this. I knew I was about to join up in the military in a couple of years. I guess I was just trying to act off, to be honest. But I was feared inside, you know? Yeah. But, but, like, lots of nights too.

Like, I, I don't know, man. When you're that young, how do you look at, I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to explain. I won't say that I didn't sleep in no fear. Like, I was, it was scary, man. You know, but like I told you, before I started listening to your show, I kind of always chopped all this up to be just kind of a sleep paralysis and whatever.

But when I started listening to your show with different episodes, I was thinking to myself like, okay, maybe it's time for me not to actually think that there might have been something going on here. Yeah, it certainly is. I mean, that's the thing. I think a lot of times people feel like they're alone in their experiences, and that's just not the case. I mean, if you just do the odds of things, there's seven and a half billion people in this world. If you're having some kind of weird paranormal type experience or just, you know, something that just seems off, chances are somebody else has already experienced something like that.

I mean, just the odds game. And that's why I'm glad that we have the show because. it allows people to kind of get that through their head where it's like, yeah, it's okay to have these experiences. I'm not crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And like my dad had these his whole life, but I mean, we only started talking about this. Actually, honestly, when I first started listening to your show, a year and a half a war or something,

and that's when we started peace and everything together and all that stuff, right? Besides, like that time he told me, like he dreamt that somebody was standing behind, the big shadow figure was standing behind me in the doorway, but I didn't tell him what I experienced that night. So, you know, there was no communication afterwards that. So he really didn't know about that until recently because I didn't say anything about it because I didn't want to see him crazy. Yeah, I understand that.

Well, I'll tell you what, man. There's sometimes with these expectations, with these expectations, experiences, there's not a whole lot to understand as to why things are happening. But just for me, just my opinion, I think it probably has something to do with just location. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because when I, like, when I left, like, I never had anything crazy out with me on military bases or anything like that.

Like when I moved away at first, not like, I'm not in no more. but actually recently here now I've had one or two things happened to me in the last year ever since my son's been born so I'm wondering like is my son going to go through this too like I don't know if it's something kind of connected to that or what but there was a

one thing's actually pretty funny and the other thing is yeah pretty creepy We were in our house now My wife was out And everything like that I think my son was probably only Eight or nine months at the time He couldn't even walk at this point

Couldn't walk He was just, you know So I was home And I had to change his diaper And so I started changing his diaper And actually it's funny because my dad Was a witness to this Because I was actually talking to him on the phone

while I was doing this. And while I'm talking to him on the phone, I'm changing his diaper. You know, I take the diaper off, whatever, blah, blah, blah. When I put the diaper there, when I turn around, everything is clean. Like, it's like somebody did it for me. It's pretty funny. That one's funny. Like, my dad witnessed us too, because I'm talking to him, like, whoa, like, what's

going on here? Yeah. So that one's pretty funny. But then the other thing, we were in my basement. And, you know what in my ballpits that you get for kids, like all them plastic balls and everything. Yeah, the different colors. So we were downstairs playing with that. And my son, he loves throwing these around, making a huge mess.

I'm sure everybody's kid does. So he's throwing these balls around, throwing them around, throwing them around. And he fires one underneath the, it's like a, I don't know how to explain it. I got like a TV unit that got like a taller bottom to it. So there's like a half a foot space underneath. And he fires the ball underneath there. So it was about five or six seconds goes by. And all of a sudden the ball shoots back out.

Right? Sure. Like that could be a coincidence. Okay, the ball could have went under there, could it came back out, whatever, roll back out. But I mean, it shot out like somebody threw it. So like I wouldn't even talk. Like I wouldn't even think there was something weird. about that if I wouldn't experience everything I did in my life, you know? Right. And I can understand why

you feel like this might be, or you're questioning at least, is this something that my son's going to have to go through as well? And, you know, I don't know what you want to hear on that, but it's not uncommon. Well, I know. I've heard lots of your souls. I've heard it. I've heard other people say it. Yeah. I wish it wasn't like that. I wish there was a quick, not a quick, but I wish there was a definite answer as to how to stop generational curses, how to stop these things transferring to our children. But there isn't. You know, it happens. And so the best I can say is, you know, it's like do the best you can to identify the situation, either as it's happening or as it's getting.

getting ready to happen and be very open and willing to talk to your child and stuff. If they come to you saying they saw something, you don't want them feeling like they're crazy and they don't have anybody to talk to, you know? No, 100% like, especially because I experienced that rate, like I experienced all this stuff in this house that my parents did or my dad did when he was young. And like, you know, he never told me, never talked about it or nothing like that. And I guess it was kind of my fault, too, because I didn't talk to him about it. So I suppose I can't really blame him for not tell him, like, you know, kind of talking to me because I didn't tell him it was happening to me until later, you know, because yeah.

So. Yeah, it's interesting because, I mean, I'm obviously in a different situation where I don't think I'm ever going to have to bring up the topic to my child or anything like that. I mean, it's kind of just part of the culture and environment in the house. You know, I mean, I have a picture that an artist did of me with like a ghoul, alien, Bigfoot, and they're all surrounding me in this picture. Yeah, the one on your wallpaper there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I have that framed in my office and my son sees it.

And he says, Daddy, that's you. Yeah, it's me. me and he points at the big foot and he says gorilla i was like yeah it's a big foot and then you know he sees the other googly looking things the dog man and you know he just it doesn't scare him yeah yeah yeah for sure i'm just thinking you know as he gets older and stuff it's not really going to have to be like you know me trying a way to talk to the kid about the stuff i think he already you know sees enough yeah for sure for sure yeah it's um there was uh one thing happened to me with my dad not long ago actually I don't this guy I don't

think this has anything to do with anything that we talked about here but I'll say it I'll talk about it anyway I one day I was on the phone with him and this was only couldn't have been more than five months ago actually and we're talking and talking and all of a sudden I'm on my back porch and I see this big bright light right and all of a sudden the bright light it just disappeared it was in the sky and my phone turns off now i had 80% battery phone cuts out everything cuts out so i charged it the phone charges back up is showing 80% battery again same thing but an hour of my uh like log or hour of anything that happened on my phone is totally erased and it was raised on my dad's phone too So that's probably the most recent thing that happened to me. And I don't think that really got anything to do what we talked about today. But it's definitely a weird thing too.

It could have been a coincidence. Something might have happened with the phones and everything like that. But I just figured I'd mention it. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a coincidence. I mean, that's weird, man. Both you and your dad's phones were erased? Yeah. Yeah, I wish, you know what, I know back when I first sent email to you,

I seen that I could bring like a secondary guest on. I asked my dad to come on because he can probably explain a lot of his stories better than I could, right? But he didn't want to come on. He said, no. I'm like, okay.

But he's pretty excited to hear an episode. Yeah, well, I'll tell you, man. I think it's interesting. And, alright, let me ask you the traditional question I'll ask people when they tell me such things. Do you ever, can you account for the time

I mean, is there at all any missing time at all from that experience? You know what? I couldn't say because I didn't really, I didn't really go. I was kind of, it was kind of, I was sitting outside and I didn't go back in there might have been, but you know what? I can't say. I can't say I count. I can't. I'm not going to.

I'm not going to say I did because I'm not sure. Well, I mean, I just find it. I'm trying to find the reason why. both your phones would be wiped, you know? It was so weird, man. Like, we sent each other pictures, and he's like, me too. And all the logs, even other calls, too.

They ever wiped. Like, there was no record of anything I did on my phone for that whole hour. So, I mean, what's your gut tell you about that whole thing? I mean, obviously, you got to have some kind of opinion on it. Well, I guess personally, I think somebody didn't, how do I say this? somebody didn't want to be revealed or something. Like, is that the right way to say it? Like, I don't know.

Okay, so are you thinking E.T.? Are you thinking governmental? I mean, certainly I think the government... I don't know, to be honest with you. Maybe it could be extra-restreel, something like that, maybe. I mean, what else would it be? Oh, it could be your own government. I mean, honestly, I think our governments,

and I know two different countries here, but I mean, I think our governments have technology. that we can't even fathom. I talked to an older man back, it had to be two, three years ago, maybe longer. I probably longer. And he owned a casket shop and I was delivering some stuff. And he owned it. We were talking. And he was talking about the 60s, being in the military, this, that, and the other. He was an engineer back then. And he said, the stuff that you're seeing that our military has today, he said he was part of the people, he was part of the groups of people who invented that stuff for the military back then. He said, we've had this for so long.

And so I think when it comes to 2020, the technology that they have that they're just not telling us about, shoot, man, I think, I think they got some serious stuff that we, that if we knew about it, we would say that's magic. That's paranormal. Yeah, for sure. You know, and I didn't really want to get into it, but you talking about that. You know, like I said, I listened to the military, and I was in for a few years, and I got out, and I actually have a massive addiction for the Army, for the military. I've seen how people that, they talk about the whole 20 and back stuff,

how, like, they felt as they were drawn to join the military, you know, and they start getting the memories of everything. No, I'm not going to say that I think that's what happened, because I have no memories and stuff like that, But I mean, is it all a big coincidence, you know? Like, you know, I was drawn there. That happened. This happened.

Everything. I don't know if it all goes together or what. I'm not sure. Well, when you say addiction, what do you mean? No, it's like I just feel like, how do I say it? I feel like in my head, it's like that's what I got to do. That's what I got to do. And ever since I got out, I've thought about it every day that it was like a mistake.

Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. So what you're saying is it was a strong draw, but you really can't say that it was a paranormal type thing. No, exactly, exactly. I'm just saying, and I'm not going to say that. I think it's all connected. I'm just saying there was a very strong draw to it.

I got you. Yeah, man. It's really interesting stuff. Really interesting stuff. And I'm not sure what to make of the house. I wish your dad would have come on. that would have been fun. Have a... I tried, man. I tried. I tried. I really did.

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experiences in the area as well. Let's start off with the cattle mutilation stuff. What kind of things have you heard about and, you know, maybe experienced. What's going on out there? Okay. So we have this new guest ranch that was just developed, I want to say, about four or five years ago. So, and it's, it's up in the Sylvie's Valley, which is probably, I want to say it's about 35, 40 miles from where I live. But anyways, they had five of their Angus bulls that were, that were mutilated. So what, then they're out in remote areas.

So most of the mutilations that happened on within the last year, there's been, you know, one over by DeShites County, and then one just recently in Gillum County, which is by fossil, which was just last month. So the same things are being took in like whether it's genitals, utters from the cows, their hearts, but there's no blood, no footprints.

And to get to some of these remote areas where these cows are being found, they're like four hours in by, say, ATV. And there's no tracks from like vehicles or anything. And they're so far out that to have like, veterinary Clinton, a veteran come out, a veterinarian, excuse me, come out there. They can't get pulling any blood or anything from these cattle. So I just thought it was, I just thought it was weird,

you know, because they still don't, it's still an ongoing investigation. Yeah, with these cattle mutilations and stuff, I mean, there's a lot of theories about it and stuff. I think probably the most common popular theory is that there's some kind of, uh, alien, yeah, alien extraterrestrial. Uh, what do you think? I mean, you're kind of in the, area. Do people even talk about this commonly or no? You know, it's been in our local newspaper. It was just in our local newspaper. I want to say the week ago, you know, they haven't really said, pointed the finger at aliens.

They're not, you know. But one of the, you know, it has happened in the fossil area. One of the ranchers that just recently had had 20, had it happened. and it happened in that area 20 years ago. So it's not something new, per se. And there was still, you know, they didn't know what was going on 20 years ago either. There was a down period though, right?

I mean, there was a period where this wasn't happening, so it seems to be upticking again. Well, it's really weird because I've lived here. I've lived here 22 years and just last year is the first time I've ever heard about it. You know, I've heard about it like on weird on, you know, when I was a kid watching and solve mysteries and stuff, stuff like that, but not locally. Yeah, I wonder, you know, I would like to see if there is any things that have typically happened after these mutilation started up, you know, back in the day and see if the similar

things happen now, you know, because there's got to be a correlation, I would think. And, you know, I don't know, you know, some people suggest that this is, you know, the government, you know, practicing their weapons on the animals, things like that. You know, I don't know. I don't know, but it's very strange. And you've had strange experiences in this area, right? Oh, I have seen like weird stuff in the sky, you know. I was like, be looking up the sky and have, you know, you see the usual satellite

and they're just on a straight course of where they're going. But, you know, from it's like a star, but it jumps around, you know. Yeah, so, and also we've had been out camping and had something fly over our camp and it was soundless and there was big lights in the shape of, I'd say a triangle and it went really slow and just lit up our whole camp. And we all sat there and looked at it like, what the hell? And but it didn't have any sound. And then it was gone. So there was no sound. I mean, it just, I'm assuming it moves slow.

That's what I'm picturing. my head. Yeah, it just hovered. It just hovered right above our camp. And this was like, I want to say it was about, oh, 15, 16 years ago. You know, we're all, you know, we just all kind of like, well, that was weird, you know, but it was night and it just lit up our camp. And it was above the trees because we, you know, where we live, it's, you know, it's forest. So, yeah, I just went really slow. And then pretty soon it was gone. So there's, there's weird stuff. I've had weird stuff happen to me here. You know, and I don't, you know, I don't, I don't know. I wouldn't, you know, I just, weird stuff happens. Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say so. I mean, the anomaly lights in the sky. I mean, I think they're strange, probably more common than people realize, but strange nonetheless, because we don't know what they are. And, you know, if you want to feel good at night, you probably want to believe it's just some kind of government thing or just something you just. Well, I don't even, even if it's government thing, that doesn't make me feel good, you know. I mean, I mean, even if it's government thing, that doesn't make me feel good.

You know, I must rather have aliens than weird government stuff. Yeah, you know, that's probably, that's a good point. That's a good point. I don't have a whole lot of trust in the government. Yeah. Well, I know one of the write-ups in the newspaper, they thought that, you know, they're trying to grasp at what could be doing this. And they thought that maybe it was, you know, somebody had a blow dart.

And they thought they had found some feathers, you know, You know, and they, this tracker, because so one of the ranchers hired a tracker to come in and track to see if they can find any tracks. He can find anything, but he didn't find these feathers that he thought was maybe somebody or, you know, could make some blow dart. Because there's no bullet wounds. There's no, there's nothing. They don't have any idea how these cows are killed. So there's, you know, there's a, you know, 800 pound animal, 9,000 pound animal that's being killed. But how?

You know, all of a sudden, they're just laying there, you know. And the recent one was like it was up on its, it wasn't laying on its side or anything. It was like it was just kind of bent at the knee, like laying on its legs, you know, like it's sitting up. So, yeah, it was really weird. Yeah, that is weird. And I was going to say, Bina, you know, when you hunt something, usually, you know, you lay it on its side after, you know, whether you're going to get it, that during that time or do anything to it, you know, being, you know, I mean, that's, you don't have them sitting up. So, yeah, weird. Yeah, it's weird. And isn't it like Oregon is really kind of

well known for these kind of things? It doesn't really happen everywhere, right? Um, it, you know, it has happened everywhere. I was looking at it. It has happened all over, all over the United States and other places. So it's something that's, you know, and it's like, seems like for the last 50 years, you know, I was reading that it's been common, you know, like even in, you know, like Texas, I think. And in that region down there. So, oh, wow. I didn't realize it was happening that far out. And so I just thought it was more of a specific, a Pacific Northwest. But if it's going to Texas, then my goodness. Yeah, Google. I don't, I don't exactly remember, um, how many other states and how, but it's, it's, it's, it's, because I remember, remember, remember.

I don't ever seen it on a show when I was a kid about cattle mutilations. And the same thing, they just take, like, their, you know, their tongue, their, I don't know why they take their reproductive organs, but they do. And then, you know, like their udders and, you know, venuses and stuff. And sometimes a heart. So it's been different here, you know, in my area, at Sylvie's, they only took a certain amount of things, but then up and fossil, they took a little bit more, you know, where they took even lips and stuff like that.

But, you know, there's no footprints or no. And the animal doesn't even thrash around. There's no sign of the animal, you know, thrashing around if some, you know, they're going to if somebody's going to. Yeah. So I don't know. You know, if it was a man doing this, like, say, you know, some kind of top secret government,

what would be the reason for it? And the only thing I can think of is cloning. or something, like needing animal parts or something, I don't know. It's really weird. I did find that picture that you were referencing about the cow just kind of, it's like it's laying down on its, like it just laid down there and its head's still like up in the air. It's not even resting in it is. It's really weird. And that's the one that was in fossil. So the other ones, they're all laying on their side. If you view the other photos, they're all mostly laying on their side. And the weird thing is that there's no blood

And some of the cows don't are drained I mean I work for a funeral home And I know, you know, with us, a person Once we die, that blood settles You know, gravity takes hold So, you know, it's really important Like if somebody gets in a car wreck Or if there's a person that we need to pull talk screens on

And we have to pull those talk screens We want to as soon as possible Because that blood coagulates and then just, you know, gravity takes hold so yeah they can't even pull and you know they don't have some of them don't have blood or anything in them so weird is you know things bleed you know animals humans we bleed so whether it's poison do they poison them i don't know yeah it's it is really interesting and i don't know either it's this is something that's been going on for a long time and and we don't really have any answers to

it and i think the longer it goes on the the more the alien connection seems to be legit. Even more, even more so now with the government coming out saying, yeah, we have crafts that are made from other outside this earth. When they say, when the government saying that, it's like, okay, well, maybe the aliens are mutilating the cattle too. That's actually ironically the simplest answer. Right. And that's, I remember, you know, as a kid, when I first heard about this, that's what the thing was, you know, was it the, it was the conspiracy? Was it the aliens or aliens doing it, you know, kind of like the chupacabra down in Texas and, you know, in New Mexico and Mexico and stuff, you know, so I don't know. It's weird. I don't see how a

person can get out there because we all leave footprints, you know, I don't see how they're being, you know, are they poisoning them? But whereas, yeah, why do you need those parts? You know, if I'm going to, I mean, I don't kill cattle, but if I was going to kill cattle, you know, if I need anything, it definitely be the meat, not the undesirable parts. Yeah. Well, and the thing is, it's a lot of cattle. I mean, why don't we just see a bunch of different random animals having this done to them? Why does it seem to be?

I mean, I think that there have been other animals, but, I mean, you don't see nearly as much. Yeah. It's mostly cattle. And it's just, I don't know. It's very interesting. It is. It makes me want. to do a little bit more research.

It's like, yeah, because it's, I don't, you know, and it's around my area. You know, it's not, you know, it's all these places are very familiar. But what I, you know, like I said, what I find really weird is that if a person, because back to a person, you know, these cattle are so far in, so remote, you know, out there on ranches. I mean, some of these ranchers don't see, they don't see their cows every day, you know, because they're so spread out during the, you know, when they're. out there in the summer and stuff.

So, you know, a person to get in there that far back, you know, it's, I mean, four hours on a dirt road, it takes for, that's forever. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. To get back in, yeah. They'd have to leave some type of footprints. Or they'd have to at least, because they at least have to be in there to see what the

cattle do back. I mean, are they watching them? You know, are they just sneaking? I mean, you can't really sneak up on them. I don't know. I live around cows. So, you know, I couldn't imagine going out there seeing being a person, really. Yeah. Man, it would be, it'd be really interesting to catch one of these things on like a trail cam or something doing it.

I don't think we ever will, but it just, man, because I don't know. I just, I would love to know what's doing these. Right. It's the, it's unexplained. Yeah, because I, you know, like I said, it's weird. I know that the ranchers are, you know, they're higher and extra men to be out there, you know, kind of like sheep herders. I mean, because we still have ads in the newspaper here or at our unemployment office for sheep herders. So, you know, but they're having cabboys go out and be out there with these cattle.

And also, you know, they're, you know, they always have their, their rifles with them, you know. So that would be weird. You know, I just, I couldn't imagine. I don't know if anybody's putting up trail cams or not, but, you know, there's a lot of trail cams in this area to be in use. I know that. So, yeah, so you, I'm not sure if this is the same area or what, but you said that there was, you had gotten coaxed up in the mountainside once, and you thought it was somebody, but that person wasn't there, it turns out? So, that incident happened. We were out for a drive.

We had something go wrong with the vehicle. and it was in this area up. You go up Fields Creek and then it turns into Murder's Creek. Well, we had pulled off alongside the trick and he was just going to fix it, you know, no problem would just be an easy fix. You know, so as I was waiting around, you know, I thought I'd, you know, I'd just walk around and I crossed the road and headed up the hill. And, you know, I was just kind of just, you know, it was early spring, I want to say.

It was still cold out. I had a sweater and stuff. So, you know, like a hoodie sweater on, a bigger sweater. And I was just kind of walking around up there. And of course, there's, you know, genome for trees, pine trees for trees. So it's in the mountains, bushes and stuff. And I had heard somebody. I thought I heard. It sounded like people talking. And I was like, what? You know, and it was my, so it was my ex-husband, actually, that was working on the vehicle. And he was wearing a black. He was wearing a black car heart jacket. And I looked over and I saw, he was a bigger man, you know, and I looked over and I was like, what do you know? I was like, oh, you know, I thought he was just joking around with me. So I started walking that way, you know. It wasn't, we always would, you know, go for walks and stuff. So I started walking over that way, you know, and I got to where I saw it.

there was trees and bushes and stuff and I got to where I saw him and he wasn't there. I was like, well, whatever, you know. And so I just continued walking and heading up. And then pretty soon I heard talking again. It was really weird. And I'm like, what are you doing? And I looked up and it threw the bushes again on the other side of these trees. I could see this black, you know, like I thought it was his black goat.

you know um it was like wasn't it wasn't i wasn't i wasn't i wasn't i don't want to say it was a silhouette it was just like if somebody was standing on the other side of bushes you know that's what it looked like and i was like what are you doing talking to i was like what are you doing i can see you i'm like come on i'm not going to follow you all because we i got pretty far up there you know i'm like i'm not going to follow you all the way up here and enough where this went on enough where i got i was getting pissed i was like you know it's screw it i'm going back down you know i'm not you know put me in a jerk Um, when I got back down there, he was still working on the vehicle.

So, you know, and I was totally talking, you know, thought it was him. Um, it was very, very bizarre. Uh, I couldn't make out what was being said, but I thought it was him just, you know, messing with me. You know? Yeah. I don't, yeah. And when I got back down there, uh, he was still working on the vehicle. I didn't, I was like, you know, it was really weird.

he couldn't have beat me back down. There's no way. And, you know, because, yeah, it was, it was, it was just, I didn't really say much about it, you know, because he would have thought I was nuts. But, yeah. So what do you think it was? I, um, I, um, I want to almost say that I think it could have been Sasquatch or something. Um, that I feel that, um, because just recently somebody had been Sasquatch or something. Um, that I feel that, um, because just recently somebody had been, mentioned in Murder's Creek, which is 15 miles from that place. I always felt weird there, too, because we've been there before. Just, you know, I always felt weird in that area. But just, sorry to change the subject real quick, but I'm just at Murders Creek about 15 miles away, somebody had seen, five people had seen a Sasquatch come up out of the creek. And they just had to talk to,

it was on West Gurmurmer's blog and I was like, hey, but I think it was, I think it was Sasquatch. I've been hunting about 40 miles from that area. I say about 30 miles as the crow flies and had some weird experiences of hunting also. And that's when I first thought, you know, what the heck? I mean, that's why I was first thinking, Bigfoot. but everything kind of all come together, you know? There's all these weird stuff that people just blow off.

Like, oh, that was weird. You know, could it be this one, this one, you know, thing? Yeah, well, I mean, it's, if you're mistaking something out in the woods as a person, and I think you said a black carhart coat, you know. Right. And that's what it, you know, it was so weird. And I didn't think of anything. I just thought it was, because I, you know, I believe in paranormal.

I believe in ghosts. I seen ghosts when I was a little kid. You know, I remember, you know, I've seen stuff like that. So, you know, I'm, I just, I didn't find it too bizarre, but I just, you know, was thought, oh, well, that was weird. You know, of course, I went home straight home and told my mom, she's like, oh, that's weird. And that's why I call it trippy crick is because weird stuff like that happens there. you know and that's what I felt like I was just being coaxed up further and further you know because I get to the place where I saw him which I thought see still you know thought it was him and then

he'd be up further or over and it was just you know I finally just got pissed and was like I'm not doing this but yeah so there's a bunch of it's just in this area there's just a bunch of weird stuff that happened in the John Bay Valley I don't you know yeah and one of the things that you mentioned in the email that was strange was I guess you are, do you work for, what do you call it, search and rescue? Well, no, I work for the funeral home. So I got you. Yeah, so I do any type of recovery that anybody passes away in Grant County.

I get called in and I go and pick up the body. So, I know what you're referring to. That gentleman was, he went to go on an all-night hike. it was January February it was cold still well he had froze to death they looked for him for two days and it was up there in that fields creek up there

where trippy creek in that area and he walked the strange thing is he walked in circle up there and all he had to do is just go ahead straight back down you can you know you can either go up because the valley the valley is so big

that you can you know you know your way back down but search rescue, yeah, he just walked in circles. And then, you know, they finally found him frozen. But I just don't understand why he didn't head back down instead of walking in a circle. Yeah, I mean, that kind of has a missing 401 vibe to it. Right? Really weird. Yeah. Yeah. And that was, and that happened in the Fields Creek area, the same area that, you know, happened where I was. And he even took public transportation to get up there.

He took public transportation up there to walk around in circles. Well, that's his thing. He was going to go on and over. We have a lot of people, men, women, they come here. You know, they like to get out there, go camping, go hiking, whether it's winter or whatever. So that was his plan. He took public transportation to Fieldskirk, and then he hiked in there and was going to stay the night and hiked back out.

He never did. Yeah, and, you know, to hike in there, you know, you just hike back down. You know, you hike up, you hike back down if you want back down to civilization or, you know, to people, to the highway, to farms, to ranches, you know. So I don't know how he got up there and just walked around in circles and ended up frozen when he could easily went right back down the way he came. So that's real, you know, I find that really, really weird. Because if you were to see the terrain of Fields Creek and stuff, you, it's up or down. Yeah, or yeah.

So I thought that was bizarre because, you know, you just, why would he just walk around in circles up there? Yeah. And it's like he got disoriented somehow, you know, and just walked around in circles. Right. Very. It's scary to think about because, I mean, you know, he didn't go out there to think to do that. So what caused him to be so disoriented that I walked around circles and I hope. And I can't see, I work in my profession.

Usually when we pull talk screens, I pull the talk screens, but I do not get to see the outcomes of those. So, you know, I don't get to see whether he was under the influence of any type of narcotics or anything like that, you know? So I don't know. And I, he, the town's small enough that you pretty much know who, you know, who is. You know, the ones that are in, they're hooked up in methamphetamine and, you know, you know, those people around here. because of the town. I think we only have like less than 1,800 people in the town of John Day. Yeah, so that's not that many. No. No. So when somebody does something weird, you know, you'd be like, oh, yeah, that person's all messed up or something. That's probably a lot of it.

But, you know, this individual, you know, no, I didn't think that he, yeah. So that was weird. I just thought it was weird because I had to just have having, you know, stuff happened to me, weird situations up there. And every time I went up to Fields Creek, when I first went up there, I remember I always felt weird. It felt weird there, like almost like a watch, somebody's watching you vibe type. You're not alone feeling up there. So, you know, it was a nice place to be, you know, real thick wooded, you know, on one side of, you know, what? Yeah, but you always get that weird feeling up there. So, and then, you know, I guess, well, um, years ago, the reason why they got the murders creek is because the Indian, there's a bunch

of slaughtered Indians up there years and years ago back in, you know, in settlement times and stuff. So it's kind of that area's had a weird, kind of weird vibe always, I suppose, if something like that's going to happen. I don't know. Curst grounds. I have no idea. I just think it's weird. I just think that weird stuff happens and it's, you know, there's no explanation, really. Yeah. And, you know, to think that, I mean, to think that actually if there was a big foot or anything like that, that just, you know, I don't know. That'll just, that'll just,

that's mine. Just everything else that you thought was never real was probably real, you know. Yeah. There's a lot of strange things out in the woods. And I know to wrap this email up, that you sent, you had mentioned about, I don't know if you were hunting or somebody was hunting and hearing that banshee sound screen. What happened there? Oh, that was me. That was me. And I was hunting. I was elk hunting. It was, you know, we tracked elk all week. And that was one of, like, one of the best draws that I could have, I could have drew that year for us for a filling a tag. Pretty excited about that hunt. Usually everybody came home. I mean, it's a successful area unit to hunt most you know eight times out of ten so i was really excited to get

that unit and um you know we hunted hard really hard that nine days that i was there i saw maybe two three camps with you with any you know with uh anything hanging in in their camp as per else and um so my my buddy had dropped me off i was going to walk into uh i was walking and walk in um I had to walk about two and a half football fields in, three football fields in. And I dropped him off at the top and what he was going to do. He was going to run him down, hunt down to me. And so I was, as I was following this crick bed in, you know, and there wasn't very many people out there either. You know, so I wasn't, it was my tracks were the only thing going in in the snow because it was, it was November hunt.

So as I was following this, this crick bed, I all of a sudden heard these puppies. It was like a puppy. You know, I don't know if you have familiar. If you put a puppy in like a kennel or in the bathroom because you got to go somewhere or out, you know, just where it just starts doing that yiping. And you know, you know, puppies. Yeah. So it was like, and I stopped. And I was thinking, what the hell is this puppy?

You know, I was thinking, how did this puppy get all the way up here? And it was the sound I was hearing was coming from down in the crick bed. And once you got down to the crick bed, there was like, it was pretty, you know, really thick with timber, down timber, you know, there was, you know, so it was kind of dark. And it was, you know, and I was thinking to myself, you know, and I started down there, you know, I started, I was turned, actually turned around and got closer and started to walk down there, this, you know, and then I got this weird, my, just, everything just kind of smelled my hair, just stood up on my arms, the back from the eye, I was like, a weird feeling was like, no, you know, don't go down there. You know, just don't go down there. So I turned around and I continued and I was like headed to my stand. You know, I'm going to go to hike in there anyways. You know, and then I got about 30, 40 feet away from that sound and I heard this just, it was like it went, started really low like a, and then it just got louder and louder and louder.

And like I, it was really weird. It was a weird sound. I never heard that sound before and it was loud. It was so loud. I even asked my hunting buddy when he got back down to me. I was like, do you hear that sound? Because, you know, we were in this like Canyon, you know, he was hunting down to me. And he didn't hear it.

I don't know how he could not have heard it because it was that loud to me. And I was, you know, I never, I never, I never hunt with a bullet in my chamber. You know, I always make sure that it's not, my gun's not loaded. You know, I prepare for the hunt. I, as soon as I heard that, yeah, I chambered a bullet right then and there. And I was like, what the hell was that? Because, you know, it was like that puppy, it was really weird. Like, you know, I was like, oh, puppy, you know, why is it up here?

I was concerned. And then I just got that freaky feeling that that's, you know, don't go down there. And yeah, and then I was like, it was so loud. It was, it was weird. It was the weirdest sound I've ever heard. And, you know, and my friend, he hikes that area, horn and hunts and stuff. And I asked him, you know, afterwards. after we're sitting in camp, I was like, have you ever seen anything weird up here?

And he's like, what are you talking about? He just thought I was, yeah, he was like, have another beer, Amber. And, you know, we weren't even drinking. He just looked at me weird. He's like, what are you talking about, like, Bigfoot? I'm like, well, I don't know. And he, you know, he just basically thought I was an idiot. He was like, no, no freaking thing, you know, no Bigfoot.

I was like, I don't know. And that's what got me thinking about all these other times was then. And this happened, like, in 2017. that's when I started, you know, because I was like, wasn't, it was like, yeah, big, but, you know, whatever. But that was when I started thinking about, well, what about this? You know, everything just kind of came together, you know, these other things. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I'd be chambering a bullet too. Right. Well, and, you know, it was just me. So, you know, and I still had a hike in about, I still had to go hiking in about another football field and length. you know, along this creek, I'm thinking, oh my goodness. Yeah. So, but, you know, I just, even walking back, you know, I just kind of, because I had to walk, we had to walk right back, back past there. And there was no nothing. There was no puppy sound. There was nothing. And there's no footprints, no other footprints. I didn't go down in the trees either.

Well, yeah, that's a little freaky. That's a little freaky. A little distracting from the hunt. right and then even they were sitting back at our trailer that you know through that through that whole time we were there i always had like you know at night it just was creepy like there was you know like something watching here from now you know when you look out your window and it's dark out there just got that airy feeling what if somebody's looking back type of thing but even up there that's how i felt there's a lot of weird things that happened out there out there in your area i mean uh i don't know if it's no i mean logging's pretty popular out there i mean i know here in Pennsylvania, they chopped the trees down 200 years ago.

So everything that we have is like new growth and considered new growth in the grand scheme of time. And I think that plays a role into people's experiences. But there's a lot of old forest out where you're at a lot. There is. And that's, you know, there's a lot of old timber. There's a lot of old places, you know, like, um, not to say like historical spots, you know, where weird stuff that's happened, you know. We even have, I mean, at our cemetery, they have where the whores and,

and that's what they called them on the, on the little sign that you read, this is where the whores and the, the horse thieves are buried, you know. So we're way back to, we're like, what is the way they call it over here? Like, oh, our legislature calls us, we have a certain name because we're so far out, like, rule, you know. they call it the frontier they call it frontier Oregon geez right right sounds like a place you don't have 911

oh we do we do we have some dad we have you know we have state city and county in our little town for police and you know they all do a pretty damn good job they're not you know they're all nice guys well it's easy to do a good job with a small population right with that many yeah with that many police officers also because like I said, we have state, city, and sheriff department also.

Yeah. Oh, man. Well, Amber, thanks for sharing these stories with me. Yeah, I'm really, yeah, thanks for having me. It was just some bizarre stuff. And I'm interested to see what this other, you know, since there's others that are talking about murders, Crick and, you know, what comes to play in that and also the cow mutilations. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. If you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share the show. Just share the show if you freaking enjoyed it because that's the best thing you could do to help me grow this show. Just share it with your friends, family. I don't care. Text it to everybody in your context. I'm good with that kind of action.

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