The Confessionals - 351: Secret Military Enochian Technology | Reloaded

Episode Date: June 29, 2021

In Episode 351: Secret Military Enochian Technology | Reloaded, we revisit Episode 122: Secret Military Enochian Technology with Charlie! When we originally released this show in April 2019, it quickly became our number one show of all time. The episode became so popular that we even had some people listening who we may not necessarily have wanted to listen... After the broadcast aired, Charlie received a visit in the country he lives in currently under suspicious circumstances and approached me about sharing what occurred. However, he did not want to put himself on the radar again, so he asked that his second interview be shared only with members to give him some level of security as he discloses his updated story. Charlie’s second interview will be airing this Thursday on Episode 352, as a members-only exclusive. That being said, we are re-airing Episode 122 today, because since 2019 The Confessionals has grown considerably and produced many more episodes, so there may be a number of listeners who have not yet experienced the story of Charlie’s epic adventure uncovering secret military technology and the strange things that happened to him as he returned to his ship!SPONSORSGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: https://simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: https://hellofresh.com/confessionals14 Promo Code: "confessionals14" for 14 FREE MEALS!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: https://bit.ly/2FbOhN5CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] Community: Text "YUP" to 844-215-0819Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: merkificationFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkelSHOW INTRO Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3

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Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Hey, just before we hit record, can we not use my name? Sure. And I'm not going to refer to anything officially like I'm not going to say Navy Army Air Force Marines.

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Welcome to the show, everybody listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or story, I'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. That's The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com.

Or go to the website, The Confessionalspodcast.com. hit the contact section and you can reach me that way as well. Either way works for me, just get a hold of me. And if you want more shows on a weekly basis, go to the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the join button and become a member today because we release a bonus show every Thursday for members only on the website. So if that interests you, become a member to the website today. Now, speaking of memberships, we are doing a special reload show today of episode 122 secret military Enochian technology with Charlie. We put this.

show out over two years ago and it went viral many many many people listened to the show and loved the show in fact some people that we may not have wanted to listen to the show did listen to the show and they visited charlie in the country that he lives in now to talk to him about what he talked about on this show he wanted to come on and share with me what he experienced after the show released but he requested that that show be a member's only show because of what was talked about and he doesn't want any more issues because he feels that possibly some people have been put into his life because of that show being released. Over the years, Charlie has proven to me over and over again that he is who he says he is. I can't go into great details, but he has helped me on many occasions.

He is the Charlie that we all know from episode 122. And he's going to be on the show this Thursday sharing what happened to him after episode 122 was released. Now, today we're rebroadcasting the original episode 122 secret military Enochian technology because the show, since we released it, has grown considerably. And there are many people who have never even heard that story. And so I figured since it was the number one show we've ever put out, it would be good to rebroadcast it this Tuesday to warm everybody up to what's coming this Thursday. So before we get to Charlie and his original story of what happened to him while he was serving

our military. Let's listen to a trailer of what's coming this Thursday. Let's go. One day, just randomly, this is, I don't know, it might have been a month or so after we had our discussion. I'm at my house one night and it's dark, so it's, you know, I can't remember what time it was, but it was definitely dark. So it's way after hours, it's probably 9.30 or so. I get a knock on my door. I go answer it. I open the door and there, there's two guys standing outside and they're in street clothes and they identify themselves and they show me ID

and they are actually federal police officers of where I live. They were really friendly. You know, they said, oh, I apologize that I had to come out to your house but we couldn't find you any other way. We had to go to the

you know, like the land titles office to find out where you lived because, you know, Like by design, I keep my phone numbers and, you know, I just stay as invisible as possible. And they said, well, would you be willing to come in and have a non-custodial hearing with agent so-and-so, so-and-so? And then another agent so-and-so, so-and-so from the NCIS. I said, yes, I don't have a problem with that. I said, can you tell me what this is about?

and they were like, well, we don't actually know. We're just tasked to come out here and exchange information with you. So I went and I got myself an attorney on retainer. You know, I go to his office. We take a ride out to this particular federal building where the meeting was. Blah, blah, blah. We go to the elevator. We go up a certain amount of floors and we get out.

And we get escorted to a particular room. room, which I quickly recognize as an interrogation room. So I sit down and my attorney sits down and I'm looking at him and he's kind of like gotten pretty quiet at this point. And I can, I can kind of start to see that this is more than he's bargained for. He doesn't really, you know, I could just tell he was feeling nervous. Just put it that way. A few minutes later, three guys come in the room.

Two of them are from this fellow. agency, and then the third one is the NCIS guy. They come in, close the door, introduce themselves, have a seat. He said, oh, he said, well, since you brought an attorney, then I'm going to read you your rights. And you have to, you know, read through this piece of paper and sign. So then we start this interview process. and so the Department of Defense guy, he's leading at this time.

And he pretty much just starts asking me a lot of questions that I already know that he knows the answers to, right? These are questions about my past, my military past, just different things that I know that if he has my file, which he obviously does, he already knows. So then it starts getting a little bit strange because then he starts asking me questions like, well, do you still have access to classified servers? Do you have classified material in your home? Do you plan to do harm to, you know, XYZ government? What are your intentions? So now I'm starting to do harm to, you know, XYZ government.

So now I'm starting to get, I'm starting to get question like a suspect. And it goes on for a while. There's a lot of questions that are kind of the same exact questions, but they phrase them a little bit differently to, I guess they gauge what your answers are. And they're all three taking turns asking me different things in different ways. But ultimately, the exact same questions. and I think it goes on about 40, 45 minutes. I'm sitting there like, luckily, like I have some training,

like in advanced interrogation and stuff like that. So I have an idea how to keep a demeanor and, you know, stuff like that. So I'm going through this process and I'm answering their questions. And then I finally kind of get fed up with it, right? Because now I'm feeling defensive. I'm offended now because these questions that you're asking me are indicating that you think that I'm some type of criminal or I'm planning some type of criminal activity. And so I just said, you know, so what's the bottom line here?

I said, have I committed an offense? This is when the NCRS guy jumps back in and he's like, well, he was like, you know what you did. and I know what you did. And I said, no. I said, I really don't. You know, I said, can you please tell me? And he said, well, the other guys in this room aren't clear for that. All right, today we got Charlie on the line.

Charlie, how you doing, man? Hey, Tony, I'm doing pretty well. Thanks for asking. How are you doing? I'm doing well, man. So we're doing this interview. I think you said it's about midnight your time. And right now my time is 10 o'clock in a morning.

morning. So it's a little bit of a time difference. So I really do appreciate you coming on and taking the time out of your schedule when it's such a time difference. But today you have a story or stories to share with us that are, I think, very fascinating. Now, some of the things that we're going to cover today are going to be generalizations because there's some things you don't want to go into specific details about. And so if there's any point in time that I ask you a question that you're not comfortable answering, just let me know when we can move. on. But if you would, please just kind of walk us into these experiences and how it all started. Like, let us know where you're from, generally at least, and how old you are. How did this all

unfold for you? Okay. Yeah, no, that sounds good, good place to start. First, I would actually just like to thank you for allowing, you know, me to be on the show and giving me a platform and and listening. And also, I would just like to give a special shout out to Kevin. I heard the special episode and what he's dealing with. So yeah, prayers for that man, strength and peace, because that situation is, yeah, pretty serious. But, yeah, so I'll just get started on this. I do want to just say, I know I mentioned it to you earlier, but this is the first time I've actually told the story. So there might be some parts.

I'm a little bit nervous just because of the content I'm going to cover. But I just want to start with the beginning, how it all started, getting into the military and all that. So now I'm in my mid-30s. So I've been out of the military for about five and a half years. So all this stuff happened, you know, when I was in my 20s, pretty much. So just, you know, like any other, I guess, American that feels the call, you know, I, I went to a recruiting office. I took the initial tests, the recruiter that was there at the time, he said that he liked the score. Because you go in and you just kind of talk to him.

I'm not going to disclose what branch I was part of, but I went in. I took the ASVAB test. It's just the test everyone takes, and you get a prelim score. And based on that score, then you actually go take the official test. So I did that first. The recruiter was pleased with my score. He thought it was pretty good because it's not like it's a, you know, like you get like, you know, 90% A, B, C, but it's nothing like that. It tests all different aspects of how your mind works.

So anyway, as I did that, I agreed to go up to the official testing station. So it must have been maybe two weeks later, we did that. They take you up there. They put you up overnight. Excuse me, the first day I took the test, second day, I had the results, and then I talked to some detailers. and that's where you pick your job, right? So they offered me based on my aptitude testing.

They offered me some jobs, and I chose to go into a particular intelligence job, which was fine. I didn't know going into it. When all the little bit started, like, where I would go, I thought maybe cryptology or something like that. But anyway, long story short, Intel. And so from there, you just sign some papers.

They get you all set up. They let you know roughly your leave date, where you're going to go off and, you know, you go through the boot camp and all that. Now, luckily for me, I'm a bit older. So I already had some life experience. So I was ready to go, man. It was something that I wanted to do for a long time. I just kept ignoring the call.

And I just got to the point. I said, okay, this is happening. So we're going to do it. So went to the boot camp. That's pretty tough 12 weeks. Some unbelievable stuff happens there. I actually had a pretty decent time there. But yeah, the primary objective there is really to get the civilian out of you.

So you go through everything from sleep deprivation to like physical beatdowns. Not that they're like beating you up, but they push you to your limits. And when I went in, you know, I'm a pretty, I've always been pretty athletic and all this stuff. You know, so I was ready to go. Like before I went, like I made sure I was ready. And you never really know what's going to happen because, you know. You fly to a particular airport. A bus comes and picks up like 500 of you.

So you're on like a caravan of buses. They take you to the location where the boot camp is. And when you get there, you have no idea what's going to happen. So you're just along for the ride. So I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but just long story short, when I got there, they divide you up and they put you into different, you know, like groups, different platoons and stuff like that. And those are the people, so there's about 80 guys in each group.

And one thing I noticed, so the first two to three days, they just keep you up. Like, there's no sleep, there's no nothing going on. You're just getting ready, getting just in-doc, end-doc, in-doc. So what ended up happening is I ended up in a like special ops platoon, even though I was, And there were a couple other guys that also were not special lives, but somehow we got lumped into this group. So I don't know if that actually has any significance on what happens later as far as where my career went. But when I look back on it now and I see how that happened, I'm like, wow, that's actually strange. How did I actually get mixing with this group when technically I didn't have to.

have any business there that I didn't sign up for anything like that. Right. So, you know, it was just just something, something weird that I look back at now. And, yeah, so I did all that. Once you get through the whole boot camp situation, you then go off to your, like, your training command. So you don't have orders yet. You go to get, because boot camp is only about getting you ready for the real thing.

right so then you go off and then you start training for what your job is what you're going to be doing so i went um i'll just say somewhere in california and uh it you know california is great if you haven't been there it is outstanding but um while i was there i did what i did what i had to do i did all my schooling um i think i was there for a couple months and um Then I was pushed through my schooling. And the way it works is each class is about 20 people, males and females. And they take the top performers from the class and they allow you to pick orders first. So I was top three in my class.

And I got to pick orders. I was actually second out of everybody. There was a female she picked first and I picked second. And I originally had picked an entirely different set of orders to what I was. what I got. So what happens is you kind of get like a soft verbal commitment as far as, okay, these are the orders available. So, okay, I picked that one and they're like, okay, you got that one. Now you just are kind of in a holding pattern until they cut your hard orders. And once they cut your orders and you get the physical copy, then it's set in stone. You're gone. You're

going. So cool. So I was ready. And then, you know, a week went by, Two weeks went by, three weeks went by. Everybody that I was in class with, they left. I'm still there. And I'm just, they gave me a job. I was just driving the captain around. He has meetings and different things like that, the captain of the facility we were on.

So anyways, so I go and talk to one of the detailers at the training command, and I'm saying, you know, what's going on with my orders, blah, blah, blah. He can't give me any answers. he keeps telling me he'll get back to me, get back to me, get back to me. So this goes on for, man, I think it was about three months, to be honest. And don't get me wrong, it's not that I wasn't enjoying my life because, you know, where I was, it was awesome. But I was ready to get on with it. You know, I just went through all this training.

And I wanted to use that. I wanted to, you know, help my country, which we did, which we did. I don't want to discount that at all. So finally one day I get I get called in and the detail is there. He's like, all right, here's your orders. So I look at the orders and it's not the orders I picked. And I also had a 24-hour evact date. So I had to be out of there within 24 hours.

So I thought that was pretty strange because most people know where they're going. They have some time. Me, it was just pretty much here's your orders and pack up because you're leaving. Here's your playing ticket. Were you able to question that at all? Were you able to ask them, you know, hey, I didn't pick these. Why am I being sent here? Is that something that, you know, you don't even ask.

You just have to go? No, I mean, I did ask. I did ask. And the detailer that actually gave me the orders, he had nothing to do with it because it came down to him from somebody else. which may have come from, you know, we don't know where they originate or why. But we do know ahead of time that you can be sent anywhere at any time for any reason. Okay. So, you know what I mean?

It's just one of those things like the detailer who actually ended up giving me my hard orders. He didn't, you know, he wouldn't have a clue. He wasn't even, because he's not in the same, like, job community that I was in. He was just there doing a job. You know what I mean? He wasn't one of us. I mean, he was military, yes, but you know what I mean? He wasn't within our community.

So his job, he was on orders just to be a detailer. But he had a different job altogether. But the way that cycles and rotations work, if you're not like in an active deployment part of your contract, then you might do any job admin or what have you. so that's who he was so um yeah so basically my orders were to an area and i'm not and i'm definitely i'm not going to say where exactly because there's still people there working and you know i'm i'm just not gonna i'm just not gonna um but it wasn't it was in it was in the northwest of the U.S.

So if you can just picture the Great Northwest. And it was an unconventional location, just put it that way. So I show up, I fly into a particular airport, and someone picks me up from that command. And for the purposes of this story, I'm just going to call him Bravo One. Now, this guy and myself became really, really close. We're still pretty close to this day. And he actually went through the story I'm about to get into with me. And yeah, we'll talk about him later because there's some stuff going on with him too.

So anyways, he picks me up. we chat, we talk, we drive like nearly three hours before we even get to where we're going. So it's a pretty remote location in the middle of nowhere, basically. And

he takes me to my barracks, or actually, we get on the base, he kind of shows me around where our facility is, where I have to report in the morning, and then he takes me to my barracks. And cool. Okay, no problem. It's evening time. So I had enough time to get in there, get everything unpacked, get ready to go for the next day. So the next day was actually pretty cool because I didn't know what I was getting myself into.

Because all the schooling that I did led me to believe that I was going to be doing a particular type of intelligence collection. So I thought we were going to have basically like an objective. We would collect against that objective. We would take information and create intel out of that. And then we would push that up the chain of command or laterally or wherever it needed to go. And that was it. So I arrive at this facility. And it's really cool looking at.

I mean, technically it looks like a prison. It has like a double fence with the dog line and it's barbed wired all over the top and there's cameras everywhere. And I'm the FNG, right? I'm the new guy. So I can't even get into the building. So I have to like, before you even get into the lobby, you have to go through four doors. So I have to like buzz myself in to each door to get through each section. And there's guards there and they don't know me.

And, you know, I'm in uniform and it's understood that. I'm reporting for duty, but it's just a weird experience. So you get in there, so you're kind of like in the waiting area, and it just looks like a pretty normal military building. You know, they got the flags on the wall. They got pictures of everybody in charge, and you're just kind of waiting. And then someone came to get me at that point to take me down to where I was going to go. And this is when I kind of thought I was in over my.

head because what happens is we start going down levels and we're down I don't know three four levels below the surface level because it's only a one-story building and to get here we of course we had to go through more security doors and all this stuff and in the first room that you walk into Tony it's like um if you've ever seen like those old NASA videos where you know you got all the people sitting at the control tables and there's monitors all over the wall. That's what this place looked like. Wow. And it was the real deal.

Like there was, there's people from other countries, militaries, in there. In the bigger scheme of things, I didn't really work with those guys. Not directly. We worked indirectly together. So I didn't work in this particular room, but I had to walk through it to get to where we actually work. So there were like some adjacent stations behind all that. And to get into there, you had to go through another door with like a safe combo and all this stuff, right? So I'm only telling you this just to try to like paint a picture of like how serious this place was.

Yeah, I appreciate it, man. Yeah, it's crazy. And this was pre-Edward Snowden because I was in when Stodin dropped the info and everything got even tighter after that. But that's neither here nor there. So this is pre-Edward Snowden, and this place is locked up tight.

So when I get there, I meet the people who's in charge of me and I kind of meet some guys. go through the chain of command because, of course, you have to meet everybody there from top to bottom as far as your chain of command goes. And you have a chat with them with everybody. And anyways, you just kind of get the rundown and what's going on. And then they notified me like, okay, you're going to be going to school again in this facility. So I'm like, okay, great, more school.

Right. I've already gone to college. I didn't know I was going to be doing so much schooling to begin with. But this wasn't, I think this was only like additional eight or 12 weeks. It was very intense, though. I mean, it was probably some of the harder stuff I've done because it was just very job-specific to what we were going to do. And that was just a schooling aspect of it,

because then I still had to keep up with all the physical stuff. And I wasn't even special forces. but my job intertwined with we worked hand in hand with special forces because, you know, they operate off of, you know, real-time info, so we go

where they go, basically. But I didn't know this yet, by the way. I didn't know any of this because that's not really what I was trying to do. But anyways, so I go through the schooling that I get through that and then this is when I start going on deployments. And I'll say before it was all said and done,

I did six overseas. And we had kind of like a non-conventional unit. So my deployments would last anywhere between, you know, let's say sometimes three to four months and that we would come back stateside. we would go through a training cycle to get ready for the next mission because the way that the Department of Defense works

that they kind of have an idea what's going on so they can project what needs done. And so we would go through training cycles and sometimes we would train for a couple months and go overseas and then not even, you know, get completely different. Like, we got these things called op-boards, which are operational orders.

And sometimes we would go overseas, we would, like, chop in with another unit, like, another mother. And our op-order would totally change. But primarily, we were set up for ISR. So that's Intel Surveillance and Recond missions. That was what we did. there was always either somewhere, you know, 12 to 16 of us for the most part, depending, you know, stuff can fluctuate. And, yeah, so I'll just jump right into it as far as where this is going. This was about my fourth deployment now.

So I had some decent experience under my belt. knew my job really well and had some real life experience. So this particular deployment was strange because we just came back from a previous deployment. And also I'll just say that they usually keep the teams together as long as we're performing well. So we get back,

fourth deployment, well, we're only back for about two weeks, and then another op-board comes in. And instead of deploying the whole crew or the whole, you know, the whole team, they're deploying eight of us, and then they're deploying eight scientists. And now this isn't uncommon because a lot of times we would, like, meet up with the scientists once we got to certain locations. And when I say scientists, these guys are, you know, They work for like, you know, UCLA and John Hopkins. They do all like the, just the over-the-top technical stuff, experimental stuff. So, you know, these are some of the smartest men and women you'll ever meet or that I've ever met.

So it was already strange. And another thing that was strange is that they didn't really tell us what the mission was. We just got an upward to deploy to a specific location. We had to go board a, it was a scientific research vessel. So it was basically a ship that was flagged to a different country. So we flew into a different country. We boarded this ship, the eight of us. So it was the eight military personnel and eight scientists.

And then on board, there was like, they had their own ship's crew. So there were about 35 or so guys that were working on that ship. They were, yeah, that was just their job. Okay, so I just kind of made some notes. I'm just going through, I don't want to miss anything. Yeah, that's understandable. I'm not dragging, am I? No, no, no, you're doing fine.

You're doing fine. In fact, I was just going to say, I appreciate you drawing the details out for us and stuff, because I know that what you experience, I think that there's a lot of background information that needs to go with it as much as possible. So what you're doing, I think is actually really good. Okay, okay, good. Yeah, I'm just trying to paint the picture. So glad to hear that. All right, then, so we board this ship. We have all our gear with us that we're going to take. The scientists have their gear. And like I said, this whole thing was a little bit strange because still up to this point,

we don't know what exactly we're doing. We assume that it's like within our realm of, you know, of operational capabilities, but we don't know. So it's kind of weird.

Like even LT, he didn't know. Or if he did know, he really did a good job of not letting us know that he knew. But anyways, neither here nor there. So what happens is we get out into internet,

National Waters. And then LT calls a briefing. So this is basically like mission prep stuff. Let us know what's going on. So we all go to the skiff. It's just us and the scientists in there at this time. And LT lets us know that we're going on a search and recovery mission. So we're going to actually disembark and be on the ground somewhere.

And we're looking for a particular downed aircraft. And see if we can. So there's a few objectives here. So obviously we were going to search for survivors. And then another thing we had to do is we had to find the aircraft and we had to basically extract as much data we could from the computers and stuff on board and then destroy it just in case. because where it ended up being was what was in an area known to be hostile.

And obviously, you don't want other people to get what you have. Right. Especially on a, and still, and I don't want to jump ahead of myself, but this was particularly important because of the type of aircraft that was actually down. And we'll get into this later because it's, Tony, it's weird. man it's weird yeah and yeah so so yeah so and then there was another deviation from protocol which was was really strange um usually when when we're on a search and recovery we get isolation preparations meaning um everyone that's going to ever deploy behind enemy lines has to go through an isop prep

contingent. And all that really means is it has some very detailed, very personal information on it so that if I'm overseas and I get captured by the enemy and I'm beat to hell and I'm barely conscious, you know,

some you guys can swoop in, ask me one or two questions that would only be on this ISO prep and that only I would know. And if I answer those correctly, then you know, you have the right guy and we can get the hell out of there. Right.

So we didn't have any ISO preps. We didn't know who we were looking for. We didn't know what type of aircraft we were looking for. What they gave us like a general Latin long of the, I guess the crash site. And then I guess we were so scientist heavy because they had a lot of sensitive equipment with them that could pick up particular frequencies and stuff like that. So they had a whole array of frequencies that they could scan for to try to help locate this aircraft. So we're getting ready to go.

And I'm already noticing, like I've already told you about a few of the things that were weird that didn't quite add up compared to previous missions. and then these scientists like a handful of them, I knew. And one or two of the guys I knew pretty well just from previous times. And these guys are just regular cool guys, man. They got families at home. They're not out here trying to get into too much trouble. You know what I mean? And I could tell, man, they were scared.

We were chatting Because another thing is too We're on a 36-hour boat ride Before we even get to our disembarkation point So we had to go Yeah we had to go quite a ways And we're also on a ship That is

It's a scientific research vessel So it's not that fast It's not a warship It's nothing like that It's just a ship So I guess I don't know what they have to go through to get permission to go into certain areas for whatever. So all that happens, you know, outside of my pay grade. So, yeah, so as we're getting ready, you know, I'm talking to some of the scientists.

They look nervous, you know, like I couldn't tell if they knew more than we did. or what, but something was off. Yeah, so, so, like my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my sense, basically was tingling. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, so, so, so, so, so we finally arrived. So we are roughly like two nautical miles, um, off of our, uh, two nautical miles outside of where we're going.

So at this point, um, we're, we're expecting to, to make landfall, go two days in. Once we find the site, we were going to spend about 12 hours there, do what we had to do, and then two days out,

and then back on the ship, and then done. Right? That was the plan, so no problem. So, yeah, so we got to that point. We used

two separate ribs. So there were four mil. Oh, it's a rubber hall, inflatable boat. It's just like a little speed boat. Okay. A little motor boat.

So you can kind of, because the ship can't get that close to the shore without grounding out, you know. So, and plus, we're in a, oh yeah, I want to back up too because we're also in a covert

posture. So all comms on the ship or down. and yeah so there were just weird things going on, right? So that means you're isolated alone

there's no communication nothing like that no communication we have like some HF frequency which I'm definitely about to talk about here in a minute because we took some

obviously come so we could talk to Alpha Kilo which is the sorry the ship which we called Alpha Kilo for this particular So obviously so we can keep a contact with them because we have windows where we have to do coms checks so they know that everything is going according to plan. Because once you get out there, man, you're on your own.

So if they have to send the cavalry men, you have like a 48-hour tether. So you can't even get help for a couple of days if something goes wrong, especially where we were. which again I'm not going to even say where we were I'll just describe it so yeah so we get on these ribs we speed off to the shore and basically we roll up on a beach and we kind of we have like the ribs come equipped

with a lot of different stuff and they have like netting you can put over them so we kind of like hit them a little bit Because the beach had, like, it was kind of, it was a little sandy. It was rocky, and it had, like, a lot of, like, driftwood. And so it's this type of area. So we were able to, like, put the ribs up against some of that stuff and then net them. So just put a net over them to kind of hide them, right? Unless you're right up on it, you might not see it.

So that's fine. So the area, I'll just kind of describe the area. It's like a rocky woodland. area. It was a cold time a year. It wasn't snowing, but it was pretty chilly. And like I said before, it was an area that we could consider hostile. Like if we ran into people, it might go. It might go off. So we had to be pretty careful. And plus we had eight civilians with us, which, you know, we're very important for what we were doing. Because They had all the technical know-how and all that stuff.

So, it's all right. So we're on the beach, and we have, you know, we have our general Latin long where we're heading to, and we start going. So we're kind of just going through as a group, if you can just, like, imagine, like, a hike, basically. There's four leaders in the front. We keep all the civis in the middle, and then there's four of us in that. the back and I was part of the back four. So we're hiking up and

we had like we had a plan like planned down to the minute we were going to go to a certain spot we were going to get a little bit of sleep we were going to wake up early at basically at dawn and then we're going to make the

rest of the way in there. So two days in and then we figured we could get to the site. So this is when some things started going a little weird as far as operational concerns go.

Another thing I forgot to mention is we had a window, we thought we had about five days before a storm was coming in that was going to basically put us in like a sea state of six, which is pretty hefty

especially for the ship we were on. So it was very important that we got in and out as quickly as possible. So I don't know if that really plays significance. We'll talk about that a little later. But we get to a point in the day where it's starting to get dark now. Because we didn't, another thing is we didn't leave the ship like real early. We left like in the late afternoon just so we can make our approach almost under our darkness.

So, yeah, so we get there. We're walking through. And we get to, like, we went through our first comms window, no problem. But we're also going up in elevation as we're walking. And we're getting into some thicker, more dense, like wooded areas, which normally isn't a problem for HF, which is high frequency. that stuff is designed to basically talk over the horizon. So we get to a point, we get to our second comms window,

and suddenly we can't communicate. So I'm going out over the radio, basically saying like alpha-key-low, alpha-key-low radio check over, and it's just silence. No one's coming back. So we go through this a couple of times. two radios with us. We tried both of them and we weren't getting anything. So what we did,

we had two guys that were like, basically like recon scouts that were with us. And they took off, they were trying to get to higher ground to make contact. So they left us and they just went ahead.

I mean, we were all going along the same drift line. So it's not like they just went off in some direction, you know what I mean? and so that night we uh so we kept walking those guys kind of double timed it and we didn't we didn't hear from them for a few hours and now it was time to camp so we kind of um there's a particular way we set up in these situations so anyways we set up camp and um we the two scouts that went out.

We never heard from them. We couldn't reach them on comms. So something strange started happening where, because we all had like individual comps so we could communicate with each other within like a thousand meters, right? And now these these comms are playing up too. So if I'm not like an earshot of you,

we can't communicate like verbally, which was also. weird. You know, things were, were malfunctioning now. So anyways, the two scouts I went up, they ended up, so we set up

camp and they actually never came back that night. It wasn't really that alarming, though, because there's protocols for everything. We just figured they hunkered down somewhere. Whatever. So

nightfall, we get up On day two, very early. Like I said, those guys never came back. And we're hiking now along the same drift line. And something weird started, like over the radios, they just started squawking, like just periodically. So we would just be walking.

You know what I mean? It just like squawks in your ear. and you're like, well, you know, why is this happening? It was just abnormal, very abnormal. So it happened a few times. And it's not like we couldn't hear anybody. Like it didn't sound like anybody was trying to call out to us, but the radios would just squawk.

I don't really know what else to say about that. So that happens. So as we get up the, you know, get up a ways and we're walking, and probably maybe a few hours into it now on day two, the recon guys, they met back up with us. So they just said that they got to a certain point. They still couldn't contact Alpha Kilo. They were exhausted.

They camped out. All good. Like another thing I should say is these guys, they were very highly trained guys. So you don't have to worry about them. if you don't see them for a while, they're okay. You know what I mean? So this isn't even that abnormal that they had gone off and all that happened. So you know what I mean? Am I dragon? Just let me know if I'm in- No, you're fine. I'm assuming I don't know, I don't want to put words

in your mouth, but I mean, I have a friend that was a Navy SEAL and he's highly trained and he pretty much can survive in any environment. I'm assuming that's kind of same type of guy you're talking about. Yes, we are, yeah. Those are the type of guys we're with. And I'll just say this too. This is like an interregimented group too. So it's not just like one branch. It's a few guys from a few places.

Gotcha. And these are like very highly trained individuals. So yeah, you're right on the money. You're right on the money. So, so yeah. So we met back up with them and we kept it moving. Just we really needed to reach this objective because now, we don't have columns with mother and like I said we got a storm looming and it's just we're just

I don't know it was just it was just feeling strange man it wasn't going as according to plan like it like it normally does because pretty much when you put when we plan these things so meticulously stuff tends to happen as it should so Yeah, take that for what it's worth. So I'll just fast forward a bit because nothing else really happened until we got to the site. So we finally do get to the site of where the aircraft is. And actually, the Latin long was pretty spot on. The scientists had some gear out where they were picking up some very low, low frequencies,

is like below 10 hertz. And that's pretty low. And I don't know if it was emitting from the aircraft, but it seemed like it was because it was peaking as we were arriving, right? So anyway, so this is kind of when the story starts getting interesting because we see this aircraft, and it's kind of, it's, you can see a trail.

Like it doesn't look like if you've ever seen, a commercial airline crash and it's got this big trail of debris where it's smashing through trees and all this stuff like this. This wasn't like this. You could see where it kind of crashed through the canopy of the foliage. And it did bang up like a couple of the bigger trees, but then it was just like sitting down in a valley. Was it kind of like it crashed landed from like a vertical angle instead of like a horizontal angle. Is that what you're trying to describe? Exactly.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it almost came straight down instead of on like a vector. And I guess I don't know. At the time I didn't really think it was that weird. I just thought, okay, we found it.

And we were still pretty far away because it was actually in a valley. And we had to climb down like about 50 feet to actually get like to like on surface that it was on. But right away, you can see that this was like a, it was a very weird aircraft. So this thing was, it was like, it was from, from our perspective before we got up to it, it was, it was just, it was jet black. It was kind of, like I guess the size of maybe like a, like a 737. But it, the, the, the wings were, were different.

So the wings weren't quite as wide And they were they were pushed Um to the back Kind of like, um Kind of like you would see like a NASA space shuttle. It wasn't the same shape as that, but it was kind of, you know, how the wings are kind of on the, on the, the aft end of those ones. Right. Um, and so, so it just had a weird, a weird look.

I hadn't seen an aircraft like that before and, you know, I had seen a lot of aircraft up to that point. So anyways, we climbed down and we all kind of have our jobs to do when we get there. So because of my specific job, so I had to go into the fuselage. My instructions were to extract all the data. So basically plug into all the computers that were on board, extract everything I could, then we would perform

emergency destruction on those hard drives and stuff like that. And then just for good measure, we would put thermite over everything and basically melt it all. And then before we left, I guess we were going to detonate a local

EMP just to make sure to wipe out everything. But I didn't know anything about that because the scientists were dealing with the EMP part of it. I didn't learn that until later until we were about to leave, which isn't really a big deal, but that's just weird that we didn't even know about anything like that. Because we had to set it on a timer to make sure that we could get far enough away that it wouldn't, you know, mess up our gear.

Because we had gear, too. And I don't know, maybe that's the reason why our radios were playing up to begin. with, maybe, I don't know. It doesn't really matter, to be honest. So we climbed down, we started approaching this plane, or I guess this aircraft. And as you get closer, you can start to see more detail. And like the outside of it was, it was like a checkerboard, right? But it was black on black.

So it was like a matte black. This entire thing was black. It didn't have any flags on it. As we got closer, like it didn't appear to have any like traditional weapon systems that I have seen. Anything like that. There were some parts that looked like maybe they something got like tore off or something. But there wasn't a lot of damage to it that we could see at this time. So we kind of get up to it.

And while we're there, we set up, we set up security. So some guys are just on security. Some guys have different jobs to do. The scientists, they all have their stuff to do, right? So they start breaking out their gear. And it's getting dark now. So we set up lights and stuff too. So now we're on site.

We got 12 hours to do what we have to do, 12 hours or less to do what we have to do and then get out of there. So I'll just, explain more about the aircraft. So when we got up to it, man, like I said, it was like a checkerboard. So, like, but every other check on the craft

was like a ceramic tile almost. But it was super cold. Like all the ceramic tiles were like way colder than it should have been. So I don't know if they were being like cooled from the inside because as we found out when we did get inside, It still had power inside.

So it wasn't like a completely dead, dead ship. So anyways, we worked our way around, like, to the, to the aft end, I guess, on the side that we couldn't see as we moved around. And that's where we saw. There was like a big tear in the side of it, which obviously we concluded, okay, this is what brought it down. Now, we didn't know why. We couldn't tell. It didn't look like an explosion from the inside. It didn't look like they got hit.

So anyways, there was a tear on the side. So something had happened. So we work our way up, and we actually breaching through the doors, like just behind the cockpit. And as you walk in, I don't know, have you ever been on like an aircraft that's set up for anything other than transport? Not that I can remember, no. Okay, so this, this looked like, it just looked like a traditional, like, workspace. So you had, like, once we got inside, like I said, the lights were still on. That was fine.

And there were just different workstations that did, they set up for different things. If you've ever been on a ship or a submarine and you've ever been through any of those workstations, it was set up kind of like that. So obviously, each station has a different function. and it seemed to be pretty intact. There wasn't really much noticeable damage on the inside. So at this time, me and one of the scientists, and this is a guy that I had worked with before, so I was very comfortable working with him.

We kind of moved on to our little area where we had to work, and we got to work. He was doing his thing I was doing mine. So it is dark out now. And like I said, we're in the elements. So we're hearing what I guess we thought were like wolves and stuff. Like I'm not too close, but it just gave you a chill, man. Because just when you think that you're just doing your job,

then you're reminded that you're like in the middle of somewhere. And not only could there be hostile humans, but now we're hearing things that would probably eat us. And yeah, so it was just, it was just, I was starting to feel uneasy. And nothing strange even has happened yet. And I'm already feeling it because I think the tension was like bleeding over from the scientists because they were, like I said, they were feeling a certain kind of way before we even left. So we get there.

So basically I extracted, I would go through each machine. And actually, for the way that the aircraft looked, I thought, you know, what kind of tech is inside this thing? I don't know if I have the gear for it. But I did, actually. I mean, it wasn't like super advanced stuff like I thought it might be. It was pretty traditional hardware. So I was able to connect. And what I do, I would just extract all the data I could.

I would upload a virus into that system and then I would move on. Okay. So now this, this is when this story starts getting a little bit strange. And then there's a few points that get strange, and this is one of them. So I arrive at this particular workstation. and the screen was still on, which, you know, that's fine. It wasn't really doing anything. It was just there.

But it had a language, like it had characters on the screen, and it was a language that I've never seen. And at the time, you know, I was trained. I could identify about seven languages just on site. So for me to see some characters that I didn't even recognize, it was pretty strange. So I'm kind of like standing up over this console and I pull my field manual out and I'm flipping through and I'm trying to find what language this is. I guess this might have been more from my curiosity than anything else. And as I was doing that, I did have the terminal plugged in, so I was extracting data as well.

So while I was waiting for that, I was looking through my field manual. And at the time, or at that time, the guy with me, I came up and he's kind of hovering over, like, to the side of me, like, looking at what I'm doing. And he's like, what are you doing? And I explained to him the situation. I said, I'm just trying to identify what this is. And then I just go on about my business. I'm flipping through some of the pages. I'm doing my thing.

And he's still standing there. And then, like, telling me, man, he just, like, put his hand, like, calm, like, calmly, but very sternly on the book I was looking through. All right. So I looked up at him and he says, you're not going to find it in there. And I says, or I must have had a look on my face. Like, how do you know? You know, something, because I'm just looking at him and it's kind of like a moment of silence and our eyes are locked. And I said, well, how do you know?

You know, I said something like that. And he says, this is strange, man. He says, and at the time, I didn't even know what this was. But somebody like you, Tony, you probably will know what this is right away. because I had to, you know, later on I went and found out about this. But anyways, he says, you won't find it there. And I'm like, why don't he said, he said, it's anokian. And I had never heard of that before.

Oh, man. So, you know, do you know what that is? Well, it's, no, I'd never heard anokian. Did he, did it, is it like a derivative of the word anachian? I don't know. It starts with the E. It's E-N-O-C-H-I-A-N. Oh, hold on a second. Are you talking about, oh, you said E-N-O-C-K-R-C-H, like E-N-O-E-N-O-C-H, like E-N-O-E-N-O-E-N-H, like E-N-O-E-N-O. Yes. Yes. Oh. Yes, that one. Oh, E-Nachian. Got you. Oh, is that what it is. En-O-O-O-E-N-E-H-E. Yes. Yes.

And I was oblivious at that time. Yeah, I, I, that's like, I'm not trying to shift gears or, or even like, get you off track or anything like that. I want you to continue. I don't know. But the Inakian language is, it's like, um, it's like a cultic or, uh, angelic kind of like, like, I don't know much about it, but it's for like, um, I'm going to book. but I know I definitely have heard of this and it's it's like really secretive kind of like language, right? Yeah. I mean, since I have researched it as much as I could, so I kind of have a grasp, I think, of what it is. But at the time, when I didn't, and I just looked at him and our eyes

were locked and he knew that he had to answer me because I didn't know what he was talking about. And I was looking like our our pupils were locked and I could see like his chin quivering. Like you know when somebody's about to say something they don't want to say and like their muscles are like involuntarily like shaking. Yeah. So he's looking at me and I can see his chin doing that. I'm like what is what is going on here? Like I'm suddenly confused kind of about this whole situation. and he says it's an ancient demon language.

And I didn't believe him. I said, I said, no, no. I said that doesn't, there's no such thing. And anyways, so I kind of try to pull my manual back from him. And he's standing there. And this guy, I'll just say, like, he's very professional all the time, very polite all the time. And when he saw that, I didn't believe him,

he kind of like doubled down on my manual when I tried to take it away. And he looked at me again. And he said, get your job done and let's get the fuck out of here. And he would never cuss. You know what I mean? I've never heard him say anything like that before.

But he was serious, Tony. And I could just, like, from that point on, Man, it was like pressure. Like, you could, I could just feel it because now I don't, I don't know what's going on. I really don't know what's going on. I don't even know if the other guys that are, I don't know, they know, I don't know what's happening. So I just, sorry, I just continue to do what I'm doing. I finished that station.

I move on. There's a few more stations. and we kind of finished what we were doing inside there so we set the thermite do you know what thermite is yeah it's okay so we had these little like they're just little strips we put on top of basically each console boom we're done and we just light it up and that thing just gets so hot that it just melts through the entire thing

so so that's that's like typical if we're trying to destroy stuff that we don't want anyone to ever recover. And like I said, like, just if I go back to describing the inside of the aircraft, it wasn't crazy

looking like I, from the outside I thought, oh man, this looks like Star Trek. But on the inside, it was, it wasn't really like, the cockpit, I didn't go in the cockpit, but the door was open. I could see in it. It looked pretty traditional. It was very high tech, but it looked

you know, pretty regular. And also, Tony, there's no sign of life. I forgot to even mention that. Where's the crew? There's nobody there, which was weird. Yeah, so I finished what I had to do. So I went up, and then I just kind of took a security watch to wait for everyone else to finish what they were doing. And man, so as you can imagine at this time, like, I'm not telling anybody what's happening because Bravo One, which is the guy I told you about that had originally picked me up.

He was there too, but he was doing something else, you know, job specific for him. So I didn't even, I didn't even mention this to anybody yet. So this is all like marinating in my head. And I'm still not sure if I believe what this guy is. I said at this time. You know, I just don't know. It's the most bizarre thing I've ever heard. And why would, you know, it's not time to joke.

So I don't think it was trying to tell a, you know, play a trick or anything like that. And, yeah, so I just left it at that. And I waited for everyone to finish. So basically, that was nice. So we were there about 12 hours. Actually, we were only there for about 10 hours. But by that time, it was daybreaking the next day. So we had to start hiking out now.

And as we're hiking out, you know, we all gear up. I kind of had a chat with Bravo One. So remember I told you, they were like, they were four in front, the eight suits in the middle and the four in the back. So once we like reestablished like a formation and we started. believing like we were kind of talking and and I had mentioned it I would I just call him bravo one two and three so I mentioned to them kind of like I was just feeling them out saying like what's going on here what do you guys think that was because another thing like

I can't remember if I mentioned or not but that aircraft didn't fly a flag either there were no tail numbers there was no no flag there's no identification and I've never seen that before It was just weird. Yeah, so anyways, I'm asking them, and they didn't really get the feeling that anything like too crazy. They thought the other stuff was weird, like with the radios and stuff like that.

And, of course, they thought the aircraft was weird. But you know, man, we have no idea what they can create with the technology. They only tell us what we need to know, you know. Especially as consumers, they only tell us about things that they can profit from. So I think the general consensus was, okay, this is just, you know,

I personally thought it was like an Air Force spy plane or something like that. But I also had in the back of my head what the guy told me about that language on one of those consoles. And I just, it was really bizarre to me at the time. So we started walking out. And we're not really much for talking during this because, like I said, we were in a spot where it might be hostile. So as we're moving, we're on watch as well, security watch. And like I said, the pressure is building. And I got the feeling, man, we were walking out of there.

And this might have just been my paranoia. But I just got the feeling that something was now watching us. Now whether it was like the pack of dogs from the night before, because I told you we heard like this howling and stuff, I don't know, I just got this, you know, you know what I mean? Like you ever just have that feeling? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so I had that and I shouldn't have had it at that point. I should have been like, you know, ready to rock on top of my game, but I had this nagging feeling. I kind of mentioned to the other guys like, man, I feel funny, man. Like, you got seen any movement, da-da-da-da-da. And they're like, no.

But then, like, as we moved, they started also getting this feeling. And so we kind of took breaks periodically because remember, we're with some civilians too. And we're going through some pretty rough terrain. So we can't just, like, you know, jog it out. and we are carrying some or especially them they had some pretty heavy gear we had our typical gear

I don't think it was much of a problem for us but anyways so our next little resting point we kind of grouped up spoke to the guys in the front you know got to read on them see how they were feeling and I think at that point

like everybody was kind of feeling something off for sure so just to be safe we got into like a defensive posture like a just like a defensive movement posture so we were kind of surrounding the civilians and we were moving with purpose

from this point on until we got to our first point of like rest because we were going we were going out it was the same way out as we went in so we were going to dark we were going to camp sleep some, get up and get out of there,

hopefully be down to the beach sometime in the early afternoon. That was what we were all shooting for. So, yeah, so the radio still weren't working. We hadn't had contact now. It's been over 24 hours. Actually, it's been closer to a day and a half now. And we haven't had contact with Alpha Kilo. And it just,

Yeah, so the pressure was building. We were ready to get out of there. But we know we had one more night. So we got to a point, and since we had decided to go into condition one and defensive posture and all that stuff, we kind of, we found a point to rest to set up camp, basically, where there were two high points about 500 meters apart. and between those two high points like in a straight line

we would we put one scientist like roughly every 20 meters and stuff so every 20, 30 meters there was one scientist that would lay there and there's a few reasons we do stuff like that and it's basically so if there is some type of ambush

or something like that that not everyone's getting hit at the same time right and then the The eight of us, the four on the peak in the front, and then the four on the peak in the back, we had overwatch. And so we kind of got settled in. And it was starting to get pretty cold, too. So that was another concern because we were like, you know, we didn't know if it was going to get cold enough. And to get hypothermia or what?

It didn't end up being that cold. But, man, this night is the, the, The strangest thing that has ever happened, man. Like the stuff I'm about to get into now. So the scientists are down. It is, well, it's almost dark now. The sun's not down, but since we're like under the trees and stuff, it's pretty dark. And it's typical, like, sounds of, you know, that you would typically think you'd hear in the forest.

So it was nothing strange there. all conditions seem normal. And the way that we do these type of things, when we have to be on alert, you know, 24-7, since we had four men, we all would like sit down with our backs to each other and lean our left shoulder against the next guy. So there's a few reasons we do that.

One is to make sure we keep our rifle in our right hands. and another reason is so two guys can sleep out of time while the other two guys have like a 180 degree vector that they can see. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, that makes sense. Can I ask you questions before we go any further? With that, what you just described and stuff,

and this is really off topic, but I'm going to kill myself if I don't ask this question. What happens to somebody's left hand and they use their gun in the left hand? It doesn't matter. because you're trained to shoot them both. Okay, gotcha. All right. Because there are lefties.

I'm a lefty, but I shoot a rifle right-handed. Gotcha. I do too. I wasn't sure if it was the same for everybody or what, but I'm left-handed, but I shoot right-handed. And so I wasn't sure, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think when my dad had taught me how to shoot when I was young, I just, I learned

how to do it right-handed anyways. But it doesn't matter. You do enough shooting on both sides that you can be pretty proficient. But since, you know, the society's right-handed dominant, that's kind of just how it goes, because, as you know, since your left-handed, we get all the spirals on the, you know, paper on the left side and the desks at school when we were young. Yeah, so, you know. Yeah. Okay, so let me get back in here. Yeah, okay, so we had the guys, so like I said, they were about 500 meters up.

We have the scientists on a string kind of in the middle of us, in all of our views. And then we were set up in a vector formation. So two guys could get some rest. And then when they were done resting, the other two guys could rest. And we still have the same coverage visually, you know. And we also had optics and stuff. So we had night vision and Fleer and stuff like that. So, yeah, that's helpful in a very dark forest.

So I guess we'll just go into it, man. The night's going on. I'm on a resting cycle. I mean, just what I'm about to tell you, man, it was weird. And it's going to kind of need for you and the audience. Man, you've got to decide for yourself. Because to this day, like some of this stuff I'm just not really sure about. And it still has me messed up a little bit, you know?

It's just weird. So, like I said, I was kind of sleeping, but you have to understand too, like, we're not really sleeping. Like, our brains are always turned on, even though my body was resting. So I'm just, I mean, I'm just sleeping. and you remember back in the day we had the iPods Oh yeah So I had an iPod in one ear And I'm only bringing this up

It's because I remember The song that was playing whenever I kind of got woken up Even though I wasn't really asleep But um So it's just all quiet And then I hear This is Bravo 1 now, right? So the guy I know pretty well

He's on watch so he's awake and like in the military lifestyle like we're all really really familiar with each other so we have either nicknames for each other or we call each other by our names or whatever right so when somebody calls you out by your by your job title then you immediately just subconsciously know that it's serious and it's about business okay so So I'm kind of in a sleep. I'm resting. And Bravo One, he's to my right.

And he says, you know, I can hear him saying. And I kind of kind of come back to consciousness. And the song, you know, Mobb Deep, you ever heard of Mobb Deep? You're a hip-hop guy. Yeah. So remember that song, Twisted? I think it's called Twisted or something. I'd probably have to hear it, but I'm sure I've heard it.

Yeah, anyways, it's not important at all, but it was playing in my ear, and I just thought, okay, that was weird because it was just ironic because the situation was about to get twisted. And so anyways, I kind of pulled my earpiece out, and I respond, and he said, and he's talking pretty quiet, he's like, multiple tangos, you know, multiple tangos, and he calls out, he's calling his shot. So he's calling out the location, the direction they're moving. And he's just saying multiple. So I don't

know how many there are. So I say, okay. So, and by this time everyone's awake. Like us four, we're now awake. And we're kind of like change our positioning and get into prone positions. So just, you know,

because that's the right thing to do in that situation. So he's he's like, you know, calling out the, basically the lines of bearing where he's seeing contacts. And so I can't see anything with my naked eyes. So I flipped my night vision. And I still don't see anything. So I'm trying to adjust a few things.

And I don't know if the other guys had seen anything yet. But Bravo One definitely did. Two and three, they were, I think they were in the same situation. I'm not like because the first thing you do is you go to night vision, see what you can see. And it's just in this situation, we couldn't see anything. So we flipped to Fleer, which is, do you know what Fleer is? It's a forward-looking infrared. And if you've ever seen any videos of it, stuff, man, you can see, like, really good in the dark.

So we flipped to the Fleer, man. and what I observed was, I don't even know how to say it, man, I could see, like, when you look through Fleer and you're looking at a person or you're looking at a vehicle or something, like you can see the entire thing because it's emitting a certain type of heat

that is in a certain spectrum that the Fleer sensors can pick up. So it's almost not fair. But, man, and this is haunting, man. So I see these things, right? And I don't want to say things like, like, because I don't even know what they are. But what I'm observing is basically, and there were like 20 of my, I could see like 20 sets, man. And there were these, there were like figures.

Like, you know how in some of your shows, like, people talk about like shadow man or shadow figures or something? And they say it's like blacker than black. Yeah. So we're seeing these things that are like blacker than black. But they have these like piercing. And I'll never forget it, man. It's these piercing like orange eyes. And that's all I can.

And I could kind of make out like there were some taller ones, some shorter ones. And I didn't know. Like, I thought it was other people with optics on. And it still might have been, I don't know, it was nothing I've ever seen before. But they were, like, moving kind of laterally to us, and they were coming up from our rear position. But it didn't seem like they saw us. But I confirmed that we were all seeing the same thing. Now, this group of, I guess we'll just call it orange eyes, they were starting to converge, like, toward the forward group.

Not the scientists at all. They moved like lateral or they moved horizontally, like along that line. It's hard to describe how the force was set up, but they were moving like forward. If we're in the back, they're moving forward. And I don't even think that they saw us or knew us or if they did CSA they weren't concerned. But they were moving toward the guys in the front. And since they were like, you know, 500 meters is quite a, quite a distance. And remember, we don't have comm, so we couldn't, you know, alert anybody except for we have like these fleer pens,

pens basically. So they shoot a laser that you can only pick up like in the infrared. Okay. And so basically what we do, like, and there's protocols for this today. So they knew that if there was danger close, that we would be sending a signal via, you know, via some type of infrared, since we can't, like, yell out, right? So basically, we flash a pattern. It's not really morse code, but we flash a particular pattern in their, direction and then we use the laser to put a lasso around the targets.

So we're doing that. We're trying to alert them of what's going on. And, you know, just so they know. And like I said, we feel pretty comfortable because even if they were going to engage with those guys, it's no problem. We had them covered from the back. and I think it seemed like we had the element of surprise because like I said, it didn't seem like they knew we were even there.

And they might not have known the guys in the front were there either. I don't know. But it was freaky, man. It was really freaky. And so basically nothing really happened yet after that. Like nothing immediately happened. It kind of got, it stayed quiet. and we were kind of went back through our cycles of resting and stuff.

Hold on. I just want to flip in my notes here. Make sure I'm not leaving anything out because I'm getting, I'm feeling funny talking about it, man. I can just want to make sure I'm not. I mean, this is something that you haven't talked about, you know, before at all out loud. and I can understand your, you know, hesitations, discomfort, and trying to also collect all your thoughts into one cohesive statement to share with us. So take your time, man.

Thanks, man. I appreciate that. Like, my hand is like I have the shakes right now. This is so weird. Okay. So, yeah, so that happened. And like I said, after that little grouping of whatever it was. was passed by us, it was all quiet. It was normal. So we kind of just went back to our

normal cycle. And the next thing I remember, so I must have fell asleep. And I was actually sleeping pretty good at this point because I was suddenly woken up. So I'm hearing a very pretty familiar sound right I'm hearing immediately wake up on that's that's gunfire that's our that's our gunfire you can't you can't really

mistake the sound of an M4 you know and it was coming from the forward location and obviously this kind of forced everybody into a panic

like into a scramble like not us but like the scientists they all kind of they all kind of hopped up and I could see them down in like the little like the shallow valley below us and they were kind of scrambling around but I'm hearing these shots

and the way that that the shooting is happening like I know in my mind that that these are targeted shots by the pattern that was the pattern of the of the shots

let me know that somebody's shooting on target it wasn't like a panic like you know what I mean? These are very precise shots. Somebody was shooting something. And to this day, I don't know what it was, and we'll kind of get to why I don't know what it was shortly. So what happened was the guys on the forward hill,

like two of them came down, they collected. Because like I said, we also have like, like contingency plans for everything that happens. Like we're kind of prepared, like overly prepared. So if we did get into like an engagement, this is what we would do. So the forward team, two of the guys came down the hill and they ended up collecting, or they ended up collecting six of the scientists. So that left two that were on our end.

and the reason the reason why they didn't get off six is because I don't know if it was like in the scrambler or what that one of the scientists had like hurt his hip so he couldn't go

so we came down and covered down because by this time we are like immediately up we're ready to roll because your body just automatically or actually kind of like on autopilot so those guys

grab those scientists up in the front, and they go, they're moving toward the gunfire, which let me also know that, okay, there's not like immediate danger. They're not like an imminent danger. But I'm still hearing, like, shots ring out periodically. So guys are moving. And I don't know if I'm explaining this, right, but this is happening over a pretty great distance.

So we can't see what's happening up there. and then take into account that there's also trees all over the place. So are you following me on this one so far? Absolutely. Okay, right. So those guys kind of disappear. The four of us from the rear watch, we go get the other, you know, the other two guys that are still there, and they're, you know, they're pissing.

They're pretty nervous, as you can imagine, because they don't know what's going. on. They just hear gunfire. And then like I said, the one guy had, like, hurt his hip conveniently, right? And this is the time that we need to move the quickest. Because now there might be danger. And this guy can't move. He can't carry his gear. He's in pain.

So what we do in a situation like this is we just move on to, like, one of our contingencies. So what happened to? myself and two other guys stayed with the two scientists. And one of the guys that we were, remember I told you earlier, like there were two recon scouts that had ran ahead of us. So there was one in the front and there was one with us. So we sent him ahead to basically catch the other group and we were going to run.

And the idea was that myself, Bravo 1 and Bravo 2 basically, we're going to take the injured and the other scientist to a different ex-fell point, which was it was just away from where we had pulled the ribs up. It was about a mile down the coast, right? So we were going to now go on a different path because in a situation like this, you can't, if you can avoid it, you can't put a civilian in any type of danger, especially these guys because of who they actually were. These were, are very important people.

Just put it that way. High assets. So, yeah, exactly. They're assets. And like these guys are, you know, 20-pound brains. They are similar, like I said, the smartest guys. And, yeah, valuable. So Bravo 3, the scout, he runs ahead until he's out of sight.

and I can kind of hear periodically some shots, not from him, but from the forward group as they're moving away from us. And then eventually those shots are, you know, I can't hear him anymore. And now we're also moving in a different direction. There's a lot of elevation challenges and stuff like that. So long story short, we kind of made a makeshift gurny,

to put this guy on and we just like we had to basically we not basically we had to literally carry him out so we would take turns like somebody would carry his gear and then either myself

or Bravo one would carry the gurney carry this guy out and the other scientists just you know he just walked along with us and they were panicking a little bit but they're also they kind of know

like what they could be getting into and like I said they might they might know more than us like when I look back at it they probably did know more than us but long story short we eventually and this takes like instead of

getting out of there like I said on time this just like doubled our time out that day so by the time we arrived to the basically to the secondary X-field point, the scout that we sent ahead, he was already there with the rib waiting on us,

and it was starting to get dark already. And so basically we just, we asked him what was going on, like what happened? Did he talk to the other guys and all that? And he never caught him. This was the weird thing because they weren't that far ahead of us, but he never caught him.

And they couldn't have been moving faster than, him because that's what he does. But their rib was gone. He said on the beach front, there were some empty mags, some evidence of some shooting, and it looked like

where the rib that they took was, there was like very hustled movement. So you can kind of see in the sand that feet are moving fast, you know what I mean? So that was strange, right? It was just strange. And at the time, I didn't even really think. Like, I've had years to think about this thing to piece it all together and ask myself

pretty much every question that I can think of to try to rationalize some of this stuff. Because what happens next is also very strange. And I can't reconcile it, Tony. Like, it freaks me out. And this is part of the reason why I just kind of just got a fresh start. just had to get away. Yeah, so we got on the rib.

And now, and keep in mind, like, we still don't have contact with the ship because we have one of the radios. And we still don't have contact with the ship. And the ship now is directly just two miles away from us. I mean, as far as we know, that's where it's supposed to be. And now we're on sea level. there should be absolutely no obstruction,

but for whatever reason we couldn't get in touch. So we get on the rib, we go back out to the ship. And the ship is still there, but remember I said that we were like in a covert posture, so everything is darkened on the ship. Like there's no lights on it. There's no, this thing is just not even, it's not supposed to be there, so it's not there, you know what I mean? So when we get close to it, we're ready to come alongside to board.

And finally, we were able to make contact, like a radio contact with some of the crew on the ship. So we came alongside what we got on the ship. They pulled the rib up. And, man, this was a long two days at this point, you know. And I had a lot of questions. I really needed to talk to the guys and find out what happened. Like, why were they shooting? What were they shooting out?

Because I don't know if I mentioned it or not, but it was daylight when those first shots rang out. So it was already like the sun was coming up. And I couldn't see, we didn't see anything. We didn't see anything, you know, target-wise. we didn't hear anything shooting back. It was just completely abnormal. So we grabbed our gear. We took the sciences to the dock

because there's a dock on the ship. And basically, you know, here, we just basically dumped them off. Let the dock do what the dock does. You know, then we had our gear. We took our gear to the skiff. We started putting things away. And there were two civilians that work on the ship that were in the skiff, which is fine because they had clearance to be in there. But there was no military personnel.

So the guys that came back to the ship before us, we didn't see them, we didn't see any of the other scientists. Oh, sorry, let me let me let me just, I left one thing out. So our OIC, which is our officer in charge, he was on the ship the whole time. So L-T was on the ship the whole time. He never came off with us. I forgot to mention that. And it just crossed my mind because he left a message on the board in the skiff and just basically said, you know, 0-700 muster.

Because, like I said, it's already dark now. So I guess everyone else was sleeping What does that mean? What's that? The zero- Oh, muster? Yeah. Oh, sorry, so just like 7 a.m. meeting.

Oh, okay, got you. So like a muster is just like everybody would be here at this time. Okay. Yeah, so. So, okay, cool. That wasn't even considering the situation. And also, we didn't know.

I mean, we kind of talked to the doc briefly asked him if there were any other casualties that came on board. And he said no. So we just assumed it was all good. And yeah. So we kind of, the way it was divided up, like, out of the four of us, like, there were two of us to a room on the ship. So me and Bravo won, which is the guy that I've mentioned several times, like my personal friend. like we shared a room.

So we dumped our gear off and, you know, there's a few things we had to do. We had to write up some mission logs and stuff like that. So we did all that. Then we went back. We showered, you know, and let me tell you, man, we were exhausted. Obviously, we were just out for a couple of days. And even if you're out for casual hike for a couple of days, you're going to be pretty tired. And we weren't necessarily like climbing and stuff, but it was a pretty rough one.

And just, just exhausting. So we all shower up. And the other two guys, they go off and do their own thing. Yeah. So now me and, me and Bravo One can now have a conversation about everything that just happened. Because I didn't even tell him, yeah, I didn't tell anybody about, like, that inaki and stuff. And I didn't really, once we got moving, I didn't really think about it too much more.

I didn't have time. There was just other stuff happening. So we kind of had a chat. Like when we were on site on the location, he was doing a lot of like, what would just say, environmental scanning. so he didn't run into anything weird like I did but I told him about what happened and stuff and he was like, you know, obviously he didn't really

believe it but then but then he kind of had to believe it because we all foresaw that weird stuff with the bright orange eyes like moving through the forest and none of us knew what that was that was freaky man you talk about you've heard people like tell stories how like the hair on their neck stands up, man, that's real.

Like if you've, like I've been afraid before. I've been afraid plenty of times, but not like that. It was a different type of fear. It was like a cold bone chilling sphere. You know what I mean? So it's not something that you're going to forget. So long story short, we have our little chat and then we just rack out until the next day. and even though it was dark, it was still relatively early,

because when there's, yeah, it doesn't matter. We got some good sleep. So we get up the next day, and kind of some of us are like moving through. We're going to the galley and stuff. And finally I'm seeing some of the other guys that came back before us. And we're like, oh, man, we're like, well, what's going? What happened? What's going on?

and they were giving us like weird answers, like the type of answers that you would give somebody if you just didn't want them to be in your business at all, like kind of just like putting us off. They wouldn't tell us what happened. And it was almost like they were pretending that they didn't even know what happened. Right? They were like, what are you guys talking about?

like almost like we had imagined this thing. And man, this is what really messes me up. Because what happens next, man. LT comes in for the muster. So we're out of the galley now. We're back in the skiff. And everybody's there, everyone, the scientists and us. And this is strange, man.

LT gets up and we think that we're about to get a debrief and LT gets up and gives us a mission prep brief and he tells us that we are currently on call for a lost search and recovery team that was out looking for a down to aircraft

what? Yeah, I know that's what I said And so I kind of look, look around the room a little bit. And it seemed for the most part that the guys that were there, they were like, they were like into it. Like, yeah, you know, like how you would normally be when you get a mission, you know, like a brief, a mission brief. But I'm looking at the four, you know, the four of us that were in the back that all saw those orange eyes. and I'll explain why I think

that we're the only ones that kind of knew later, because like I said, I've been racking my brain for a couple years, and I just, I don't know what happened, man. And I kind of say something. I can't even remember what I said, man. I was kind of shocked, you know, like I thought he was joking, but

LT doesn't joke, you know, L-T does not joke. It's all business. And I said something to him and he looks at me like dead ass, you know, like dead ass serious. Like what are you talking about? Because I had said something. I must have alluded to how we were just out, you know, like, oh, I said, you know, are we going to look for ourselves or, you know, something stupid like that?

And no one said it, man, no one said it. anything. And so I just, I just shut up. Because now I don't know, Tony, I don't know what's going on at this point. I'm freaking out. I don't freak out. I'm, I'm very calm. And I have the ability to process information very quickly and make sense out of very complex things. That's, that's something I'm very good at. And I was getting to a point where I felt like, I was like going to panic, like on the inside, you know what I mean? And I didn't know if anybody else was feeling it. So we just, we let the brief end.

And like I said, when I was looking around the room, I saw the, you know, Bravo 1, 2, and 3. They kind of probably had the same look on their face as I did because we kind of exchanged glances. We weren't sitting beside each other. We were just like kind of standing around in a room. It wasn't like a big formal thing. It was just a muster. And so we got the hell out of there.

And so let me just back up. So else he gave some instructions like what we were going to do. And he said right now he said just stand by because now that storm is coming in. And we're starting to get into a pretty heavy C state. It's not too. We're probably like a C state three or something, which just means that. like the waves are starting to get pretty big and we're on a relatively small craft you know what i mean so so so so we had to leave the area to kind of go around the storm that that was what we that was our

orders but while we were doing that apparently we were on a you know apparently we were on on a mission to go recover some some guys who were on on a search and recovery for a downed aircraft. And, yeah, so we got the hell out of there. And so at this time, like, when we get into a situation like this, like we set up a watch bill, basically. So we just rotate security watches and, you know, someone has to man like the radios and like the encrypted,

just different jobs to do while we're on this particular ship and some of it with security so you do like patrols and you know stuff like that you know what I mean yeah um yeah and man I I feel like I've am I still making sense here I know you're doing fine man you're absolutely doing fine I understand like the more your story unfolds the more I understand how difficult it probably is to collect your thoughts all in one cohesive statement for the first time so you're doing absolutely fine man and uh you know I'm just sitting here baffled. You and me both.

I mean, I, yeah, I don't know. So, so as we take our watches, so basically now we're 12 on, 12 off. So a group of us will work for 12 hours while the other group rests

or hits the gym or does whatever. It gets no wreck time, you know? And and I'm willing to accept this at this point. I'm also not so naive to think that you may...

I'm not naive to totally dismiss the fact that I may or may not be part of like a sci-op or, you know, like I said, I've had a lot of time to think about what's going on, but there's some more weird stuff that I'm going to tell you about before we wrap this up. That happens It's because while we're on these watches, man,

and this happened on more than one occasion, and this kind of like, man, this scares a hell out of me because this is like, I don't know, like maybe like time slip type of stuff. I don't know. You've probably heard more stories about it. But there was a few occasions

where I would be doing like a security patrol, for instance, And keep in mind, there's, there's like about 35 other people on the ship that actually work on the ship. So there's people on the bridge. There's people that have different jobs and do their thing. So it's not a huge ship or anything. So it's quite common to run into people when you're moving in and out of spaces and stuff. So the one night, it might have been the first night or the second night. I really don't remember now because these next, like, I would,

would say 30 to 60 days are really weird. They all kind of run together, I guess. And I don't have like a clear recollection of each day by day, by day, by day, you know? And that's not

totally uncommon for deployment because things become very repetitive and you do kind of get into like a groove and you don't pay attention to the days or the times, right? So first or second night, I'm just on a normal security patrol.

So I'm just walking into particular spaces on the ship. And so Tony, I walk up onto the bridge. And like I said, we are doing our best to avoid the storm.

But it's still pretty right. Like, we're in a pretty good sea state. So there's a lot of movement going on, like on the ship. And, you know, we're crashing into waves. and it's just a weird situation. It's raining on and off.

But I walk into the bridge, and it's at nighttime. So if you've ever been on a ship at nighttime, the bridge is completely dark. Like, it's to the point where, like, until your eyes are just, you can't even see people. The only thing you can see is, like, the instruments that are on, like the panels, and they're not very bright, but they're electronic so you can kind of see them,

you know, like the radars and stuff like that. So I walk onto the bridge and I attempted to greet the officer of the deck. And the captain wasn't on the bridge at this time. I guess he was sleeping, you know, it's nighttime. So they had like the, I don't even, I'm not familiar with like ship terminology. So I don't know. Whoever drives the ship and they had those guys up there. And when I, like, no one's responding to me.

Like usually they're, you know, these guys are cool, you know. They're very welcoming to us and we're always chatting when we see them. So I get on the bridge, man. And I just, you know, say who I am so they know who I am when I come in because it's dark. And no one's responding to me. And I'm sitting there and, you know, And I'm thinking like, okay, they're just busy or whatever. And as my eyes start to adjust,

like I can see a few guys in there. And they're just like standing there completely frozen. And the ship is moving. Like there's good movement with the waves. And these guys are like solid. You can't do it. It's like you can't do that. you just it's like it's beyond physics and I don't know and I didn't it was just weird you know

they weren't talking it was it was completely pitch black so I just kept it moving at that point and it was weird man like I got that weird feeling again so I just exited the bridge on the other side and I went around and I went back down to get uh you know bravo one we were on the same watch cycle So I found him and we went back up to the bridge. And I told him what had just happened. And so we walked on to the bridge, Tony, and it was business as usual. The guys were very receptive. They were talking to us, like, you know, talking about the weather.

And, you know, Tony, what does that mean? it seems like you were involved in some kind of freezing of time i mean it's it sounds like it's something straight out of a movie you know like where you walk in and everything's just frozen so like you're what you're saying is everybody was frozen like almost frozen in time but everything was moving at the same time like the waves were going the ship was going but the people themselves were just frozen like stopped in time yeah And I remember having to like balance myself because we took a few while I was, you know, up there. It took a few, you know, a few like waves or whatever.

You can't stand still on a ship like that. And it was just weird. And then it wasn't five minutes later and everything was back to normal. And I brought, you know, Bravo one and two and three. Like we all agreed because you remember. what happened when we had the muster with LT. And that's something I haven't hit on yet. Tony, us four

were the only people who remembered the stories, the way that I've just told it up to this point. So just to test it, before we even got into it, I forgot to mention this. Like, when Bravo One and I were back in the room on that first night back, before we even talked about it,

we said, okay, let's just bullet point the last two and a half days, what happened. So we separately just wrote down, you know, bullet points of what happened. Man, and it was almost identical.

So I know that my version didn't influence his and his didn't influence mine. You know what I mean? Because because there's no way that we could have known what each other was writing unless we had gone through it. Yeah, so us four were the only, so as this is going on, because like I said, the bridge thing

happened like the first or second night, and then when you're on a 1212, a watch rotation, you don't necessarily like see the other guys very much, or if you do, all you're doing is like a turnover, and then they're off. So it's not like a, you're not, it's not a soul. social call. But from what I could gather, well, I guess from what we could gather is these guys, they genuinely, or they pretended that they didn't remember anything that had happened of this whole story that I've just gone through. It like didn't exist to them. And that, that's something that has really messed with me. And even like, remember the scientist that was injured. So I ended up catching him one day because they had totally different quarters than us. So we didn't really see them too much like on the ship.

They had different like galley. They had a different recreational room and stuff like that. But anyways, the guy that has injured his hip, I finally ran into him. And we had a conversation about, you know, how's his hip doing? And he was like, oh, yeah, it's getting better. So I thought, oh, I said, okay. I said, this guy, he knows what happened. And so I asked him what happened.

I said, you know, I must have said something about, oh, did you get startled? And, you know, whatever, whatever, your hip. And he was like, he was like, no, during that storm, I fell down a ladder well on the ship. And that's how he hurt his hip. So he was telling me that because of, you know, he got off balance going because on a ship, if you're changing levels, you just go up up or down like a little ladder well. And he tells me that he heard it because of that. Wow. And none of this is making sense to me at all, obviously, because from my perspective, I've told you what has happened.

and now I'm dealing with a whole different thing. So that freezing thing, it happened again. I had walked into a rec room. This time it was in broad daylight. And this was some of the ship's crew, and it was some of our guys. And the same thing happened, man. It was like I walked in the door, and everyone was just like, do you remember that Maniccan Challenge?

Oh yeah, where everybody just kind of stands still. Yeah, and then like the beat would drop and people start dense. So that's what it was like, man. I walked in and there's a room full of frozen people again. And I'm freaking out. I'm trying to talk to these guys. There's some things that I wish I would have done now that I look back at it, but I was too, I think I was just scared, man.

I didn't know what was happening. because I should have grabbed them and touched them, slapped them, did something. But I didn't do that. And it was the same type of situation I went. Actually, this time I didn't even go get anybody because I just figured I'm going a little bit crazy. Like legitimately, I was starting to question my own sanity at this point because nothing is making sense. And at this point, we're starting to come around. around that storm and go back to the original location where we had disembarked.

And this is when our mission was going to start to go look for these, I guess, this search and rescue crew. So we circle back around, the seas, they calm down. And word from like, you know, home, home base was just to hold. because now the storm made landfall, and there's no way they were going to send anybody up there because there would be all kinds of flash floods and mudslides, and you never know.

So they weren't going to send anybody. And I've kind of, I guess we're near the end of this because nothing really happened after that. Oh, sorry, I will say this, man. I was spending some time on the bridge, and there were some weird anomalies where we would pick up, and this was when we were just sitting off that coast after the storm, and we were just sitting there, waiting for actual orders to see what we were going to do.

There were these weird anomalies on the radar where these air contacts, so you know how radar works? It just, I guess it doesn't matter how it works, but we were getting these contacts that were flying from the landmass directly at us at 240 some odd knots, which things don't move that fast. And if they do, we're going to see it, we're going to hear it. And it got to the point where we reset the equipment because sometimes like clouds in different atmospheric situations. can cause radar to mess up.

But we did some troubleshooting on it, and this stuff kept happening. It was to the point where we sent somebody topside with cameras so they could catch something. Because these things would come, they would fly straight at the ship, and then when they would get to our position, they would completely disappear. Like from radar. No one ever saw anything. Just looking back on it, when I think about it, that was something very weird. I don't know what it was. Maybe it was equipment malfunction.

I don't know. So nothing really happened with that. Like I said, we were out there between like 30 and 60 more days from the point that we returned to the ship. And we got orders to just, you know, RTB and basically go home. So we did that. And man, I'll tell you, there was so much tension, like, so much tension that, man, no one was even speaking to each other. It was just a few of us. Like, it was weird, man.

It wasn't like that. Because, like I said, this is our fourth trip. Like, we were pretty tight. Like, the whole group was tight. And now, like, by the end of this thing, man, we, I don't know what's going on with them. I'm assuming that they think that we're crazy. I don't know, but there was tension, man. Just to the point where we were just ready to get the hell out of there

and just keep it moving. We R-TB, we went back stateside. And once we got back stateside, man, no one remembered. So when we actually pulled into the first port, this is another thing that never happened before. Because like I said, we were in another country, right? So we first pulled it into the port.

Man, there were two black helicopters that picked up the scientists and took them immediately. And that's weird because we don't have black helicopters. But they were waiting piercide. So that happened. Then we all went home. And then once we returned home, man, like the crew split up, like LT. he he got posted like somewhere on the east coast um and then we all kind of individually got put on different teams and some guys went to different locations altogether um and then

i ended up doing two more deployments before my contract was up and then dude i got the hell out of there because it was just time to go and um yeah and and that that's about That's really about it for that story, except for a couple years ago. I went back up to visit Bravo One because he still lives in the same area where we were all stationed. And actually, man, he got, he had got out. He got out. And then recently, man, he went like active duty again. And I don't know why, man.

There's something up with him because I was talking to him. This was just a few weeks ago. I remember I had to reach out to you and I felt a little uneasy to even tell the story and stuff. Yeah, you weren't sure if you were actually going to come on or not. You kind of like were... Yeah, I had to talk to some guys. I wanted to make sure that I'm not like breaching anything. So anyways, man, I go back or I didn't even go back.

I was just talking to him just recently. Man, he's experiencing like off the chart. paranormal activity at his house. Like he's being woken up in the middle of the night by slamming doors. Like the way he describes it is he's got this basement door that's always open. Like it's a really heavy door, so it just stays open. And he'll say just in the middle of the night, man, it'll just slam. And then it'll wake him up and then he'll go look.

And I thought, oh, yeah, man, I don't know. It could be, you know, a draft or whatever. But I also listened to your show, so I'm like, oh, man, it could be something else. But I didn't really want to alarm him too much. But then he volunteered and he said, oh, yeah. And I've been getting out of the shower. And there's like messages written, you know how it steams up? He's telling me that there's like messages written on the shower like, you know, like different things about it's your time to die.

and just like weird like kind of scary messages. And I said, oh, maybe you're your wife or your kid, but no, like he's kind of like me. So he's thoroughly investigated it. And he's pretty terrified, obviously, because he's having some weird, I don't know, like I think you call that kind of stuff like Poltergeist or something like that. I don't know. But he did say that he had talked to some of the neighbors in the area because he recently bought the house. like within the last couple years or something. And apparently there was a young kid, I don't know,

a teenager that had died in the house before. So I don't know if that is playing into it. I don't want to speculate. I don't know. But yeah, I went back a couple years ago just for a visit, like I said. This was before, like the polter guy stuff. And there's just a few of the guys that I still know in the community that are up there and we got together with them and me and bravo one we like really hung out

did a lot of soul searching trying to figure this thing out because both of us are you know pretty messed up about it because I'm I'm kind of of the opinion man that like maybe like my body is like still out there somewhere like and we did like slip into a different reality or a different I don't know, man, because it's just too weird that, like, I know these things happen, man. I was there. I'm not, I'm not crazy. I never have been. You know, I don't take meds.

I don't take drugs. You know what I mean? So it's just one of those things I can't explain. That's why I wanted to tell you about it. Maybe you know something. I don't know. No, man. You don't want to experience it.

You know more than I would know. This is highly, highly unusual. And I think one thing that you can do to take note of is the fact that you do have somebody in your life that remembers the events like they unfolded for you. So you're not crazy, unless you both went crazy with the same crazy story at the same crazy time. I just don't see that happening. The things that you experienced with the people being frozen to having to go out and look for yourself and all that stuff, the orders that came through, it does seem like there was some

kind of weird time slip. And now as you just mentioned it about your body still being out there, I never considered that this whole whole time. But it is weird. With this kind of thing, you have to consider all possibilities because this is highly paranormal. This is highly unusual. And this is something that you really can't say, oh, well, that couldn't happen because that's impossible. This whole thing is impossible. You know what I mean? This whole thing is impossible. I know. Man, it's so good. to talk to you because you, it's almost like you just, you know, you're not judging. You kind of, you kind of understand. Yeah, man. I haven't talked to anybody about this, man, and I've been

kind of keeping it bottled up. And like I said, this is part of the reason why I left, man. After all this stuff happened, and there's some other stuff that happened to. Like, so the other two guys that were involved, like the one guy, I'll just call him Bravo too. Like, man, he was the best the operator I was ever around. And he is total recluse, man. He surfaces maybe like once a year. And I'll either hear from him directly

or I'll hear from him indirectly because we have a few different ways to communicate. And the other guy, you know, Bravo 3, I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard that, man, he just pulled the pen. Are you serious? Well, that's what I heard.

I don't know. I haven't been in contact with them at all. So I don't know. I don't know. I hope it's just speculation, but, you really don't know, man. You just, I mean, you don't know how people are going to process things like me. Like my thing was I'm just going to pretty much keep it all inside, and I'm going to find my best exit. And that's what I did, man.

And that's why I'm here. And I'm living a pretty good life. I hope that me coming on here doesn't start to change things because I'm in a good place right now. You know, they tried, you know, like when you get out stuff, you go for psyche vows and all this stuff. And I never told the counselors anything about this kind of stuff. but they still try to put me on meds, man. And I refused them. They just figured, I guess, from all the other, like normal stuff that we went through that I have PTSD.

Because they, you know, they did diagnose me and all that, but I don't think so, man. I don't care because I don't take the meds anyways. I'm okay without them because I've known guys that get on these meds, man, and they kind of, you know, they go. They lose the plot. Yeah. You know, a couple times now you've mentioned that that's why you got out. And I just, I don't know if we mentioned in the beginning of the show and stuff, but I just want to let the audience know that you were part of the United States military.

You were American. And after this event and you got out of the military, you actually left the country. And I don't know if we mentioned where you're at and stuff. But if, let's not. If we didn't, let's leave it. Yeah. We'll just leave it as that. But, I mean, you're out of country now.

And for a few years, you've been out. And so this affected you to the point where you left everything that you've known to start over somewhere in a different country. And I wanted to ask you, what about your family? Do they know where you're at? Do they know why you left? Are they okay? What's that whole angle about? They know where I am.

They don't know the details. You know, I haven't figured out a way to tell anybody. yet except for I've told the podcast, but you know what I mean. Like, I don't know how I could like look at my dad or, you know, somebody very close to me

and rattle this story off. I just, you know, I just can't do it. So they just assume that I got a good opportunity because I did. I have a, like I said, I do have a good opportunity and, you know, it's working

for me here. So as far as they're concerned, I just voluntarily came here. Do you ever go back home? Yeah, every once in a while, maybe once every two years. Okay. And I only go to where I'm from from, except the one time I did take an excursion to go see Bravo One. Other than that, I just go see my people. I don't announce it.

I don't do anything. I just go and then I leave. Yeah. Not because I'm worried about anything. That's just how I do it. I don't know. It's just what I do. Yeah, I mean, you don't have to explain yourself on that, man.

So there's four people. You, Bravo, one, two other guys. And if I'm recalling this correctly, all four of you to this day, except for maybe that one guy, remember the events as they unfolded, right? Yeah. Yeah, because. I know for sure Bravo One does. I know for sure Bravo 2 does, the recluse.

And I know for sure that the Bravo 3, he did not. I mean, we all discussed it face to face. So, yeah, there were four people after the fact that could corroborate what happened. It makes me wonder what was different about you for that you guys, you guys have your memories about this, but nobody else does. I mean, because... I'm glad you asked, because like I said, I've had, you know, some years to piece it together. And the only, like, logical conclusion that I kind of came up with, because I wondered the same thing. I said, well, why would we? But maybe it's because these orange eyes that we saw didn't see us.

and maybe those guys saw the orange eyes and the orange eyes saw them and it did something. That's the only thing because I hear some of your other shows and I forget which show I was listening to it. Or somebody said something that kind of triggered that

in my mind. I think like, oh, well maybe they actually made eye contact with whatever this stuff was. And yeah, I don't know. And maybe that, that that's it. I don't know what do you think.

Well, I definitely think that could be a possibility. The orange eyes, when you were describing them originally, I can't remember what you said, but I feel like you said something like the orange eyes looked like something. Was it like a technology or something? Do you remember what you were saying? I can't remember. Oh, yeah.

I just said that because the way that these things were moving, that they didn't really look like how like normal, like it was very asymmetrical. So if you were like, if it was another unit that was like trying to track us down, they would be moving very symmetrically like as a unit as a, you know, because that's what you're trained to do. So these things were moving very asymmetrically. And like I said, or maybe I didn't say, but there were different sizes. So some were like really tall.

Some appeared to be short. But what I said was maybe it was other people that had optics on. Like you had? Like maybe, yeah, like some type of night vision or something that they had that just appeared to be orange. But I couldn't see it on night vision. I couldn't see it with my naked eye. I could only see it on the fleer.

Or I should say we. You could only see it on the flea. Now this is just playing off of what you already put out there as a theory. but what if that was you guys looking for yourselves in this time slip and because you didn't come in contact with your own self, you have the memories of what happened there. And maybe your own self and the other time slip has forgotten why he's even there. Oh, man. Wow. I never considered that. Because you said that they, like you, at one point you said something about shadow figures being on the show and you remember hearing about that. I mean, it almost makes me feel like maybe these were like, they were paralleling time slips.

And what you were seeing was almost like a shadow image of yourselves with the optics on. And I don't know. Like, it's just something I thought of. That is, wow. That never crossed my mind. And that sounds like it could be plausible. It's trippy. Oh, man.

Yeah. Wow. I'm really, wow. I'm going to have to think on that one because, man, that could be it. I mean, what else could it be? I don't know. I mean, because when you're describing the story, it sounded almost like when you got on ship, somebody had a memory eraser device like men in black and you just didn't get it for some reason, which doesn't make sense. And it's like, it's almost like when you got back to the ship, whoever got back there first, already didn't have memories of what you had. It's just, it's very strange. And the fact that while you were out there, the craft that you found and the things that you found on it is, it might be the whole reason why there was a time slip to begin with.

Maybe there was some kind of paranormal slash alien technology type stuff. that we as a military have been messing with and there's repercussions for that because you said that it's a craft that you've never seen before is very strange or parts of it that were cold that shouldn't been cold yet when you got inside your devices were able to work on it so it's almost like yeah it's almost like if this was a military piece of military equipment it was like they're using alien technology but maybe the alien technology that that that How do I say this? Like maybe the things that you have that you were using as tools and stuff are alien technology.

It's just you were trained on it. And that's why it actually worked on this craft. Does that make sense? Wow. Wow. Yeah. You are saying things that I never considered because, yeah, we did use like stuff that you can't buy at Best Buy, you know? Yeah.

Like it's, we, the whole different set of equipment. Now that you mention that, maybe, wow, yeah, you're actually giving me a few, few things to think about that actually make a lot of sense. I appreciate that. Yeah, for sure, man. I just, when I'm sitting here listening to your story, I'm just thinking and I'm like, there's something off about this. Even before you got to the time slip part, the way you were describing the craft and how

your devices worked on the craft. I was like, okay, so what he just described sounded like an alien craft of some sort, even the way it crashed landed supposedly. And then, but then your things worked on the craft. And that was like a head scratcher to me because you would think that as you're approaching something that you are not familiar with, it looks totally alien in the definition word of alien, not from this known world, you know, whether it's from us and not. but it's just alien to you.

But your stuff worked on the inside. And then the guy who was there with you where you saw the Enochian language knew what it was. That is something that is a red flag. That tripped me out. Yeah. And I don't understand. The guy that said that to you, is he one of the guys that didn't have memories of what happened? Yep.

He's one of them. Wow. See, that's... None of the scientists remembered. None of them. Oh, he was a scientist. Yeah, yeah. He was, yeah, he was a scientist.

See, that's why I thought it was strange. When he, when he said, oh, you won't, you won't find it in your manual because he's a civilian. And I'm like, how do you know what's in my manual? And then that's when he said, oh, it's Inokian, or I guess Inocyan. But he said inokian. Okay. So later on, I have researched and trying to find everything I could on this stuff. And it's kind of like you said earlier, it's like a very ancient.

It's really an ancient angelic language. And from what I found, there is a side, like a part of it used by demons and a side of it used by angels. Now, why it was on this computer screen and part of this equipment, man, I have no idea. Well, there's these ideas out there that our U.S. military governmental entities are in communication, because you've heard of people saying that our government's in communication with aliens. Some people believe that fallen angels are aliens. Some people believe that our government military is in communication with fallen angels. And if that were true, which I don't know if it's true or not, but if that is true, that would possibly lend some understanding as to how there was Inakian language on this. Enoch, the book of Enoch, talking about fallen angels and what happened in that event. And there's this whole other side of Enochian magic, which is like ceremonial magic that, you know, evokes spirits and things like that. There's a whole other level to this that when you just, and that was just a small part of

your story talking about the Enochian language. But that, it's a thing. itself might be a very, very large key to unlocking what was going on there. Yeah. I agree with you. Because that's one point that I keep coming back to. Like when I go over this stuff in my mind, like, I keep going back to that. And I go back to how did this guy know? And then I go back to before we even left, how they seem to be like really on edge

or just straight up in fear. So kind of maybe they kind of maybe had a different mission brief than us and they knew maybe what we were getting into. I don't know, man. I don't know. Wow. But none of it makes sense.

And like I've reconciled what I can reconcile. You've given me a few really good things to think about. But otherwise, man, I, you know, I don't really want any other parts of this. I'll probably never really talk about it again, especially publicly, but I just wanted to reach out to you and see what you thought. Yeah, you know, before we end this, I want to ask you one more question. When you saw those entities walking and with the, you know, the orange eyes, were they walking in the direction of the craft? No, we were going to.

So they were coming from that direction. Okay. So they, like I said, like we, we were like on the aft post. the way we were set up, and they were moving past us, like, horizontally towards the front of the group. But they were still, it appeared that they were probably about 50 meters away from us. But they didn't make any sounds. It was just, you know, Bravo One had spotted them. That's what alerted us.

Wow. It really makes you wonder if that was some kind of time slip where, your unit in a different time lap was coming from that craft and that's what you were seeing. And somehow those... That's free. Those things consumed the timeline except for yours. You said there's about 20 of them. How many were there of you guys?

There were 16 of us. Maybe there was only 16. That's just an estimate. I didn't count because as things move in and out of like, you know, behind trees and different stuff. I don't really have an actual account. Yeah. I'm not trying to send you out, man.

I'm just, I'm just, no, no, no, I honestly like where you're going. I like where you go on. I like where your head is with it

because it seems to make sense. Definitely seems to make sense. Like, well, if any of this makes sense, that helped make it make sense. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I can understand. bizarre. Is that like really, really bizarre, man? So you had this experience and I don't know. I mean, I can't tell you what you experienced other than it's obviously highly unusual. And there's a lot of different angles to go about looking at this. Man, I'm always available for you to talk to. If you want to, you know, bang ideas, you know how to get a hold of me.

I'm absolutely fine with talking with you about this and talking through it. Um, it's, and I'm, I'm not military. I'm just a goofball with a podcast that thinks outside the box. And so, I don't, don't sell yourself. Well, I just, you know, because I want you to know, man, like, this, this stuff is crazy that you experienced. And, uh, I believe you. I believe you. And it's a, it's a, it's a crappy thing that you have to go through. And, uh, it obviously affected your life. and it's probably going to affect you for the rest of your life. And so even the idea of PTSD, that might be something that sets in for real later on in life. As you start remembering things and you start putting things together, it might cause PTSD.

So, you know, just don't ever cut anything out as an option when it comes to dealing with this. Because at some point, you might feel like, hey, I might need that medication now. And that's okay. That's okay. Yeah. No, that's fair. That's fair. I appreciate that.

There's too much. There's too much. I don't like the way people treat mental illness on a grand scale. It, like, it's okay. The way I look at it, like, have you ever broken a bone? It's the same thing. It's just a physical issue that needs correction. And so it's nothing, it's nothing, there's nothing wrong with that. There's, you're not unusual. Nobody's unusual. Nobody's unusual. that has that kind of issue. It's natural. It's fine. It just needs to be dealt with just like a broken bone. And so you can heal properly. So I'm just saying that I believe you that you don't feel PTSD right now. I'm just saying as time goes on, that might set in. Yeah. Yeah. That does happen sometimes. Yeah. Well, man, I appreciate you talking to us. And I know, I think you said that There were several deployments that you went on that were unusual, but I'm assuming this is the most unusual one you went on. Yeah, no, if I said that, I didn't mean that.

Most of them were pretty standard. Oh, okay. Nothing like this. This was just, this was an anomaly for sure. because the two more that I went on after were, you know, pretty much like the first three, like as far as what was expected and what happened. Gotcha. Well, Charlie, if I said that I did miss speak, I didn't mean that.

No, it's fine. I don't think you said during the interview. I feel like I remember reading that somewhere in the emails or something like that, but I probably misremembering. But Charlie, man, I really appreciate you coming on and sharing this account. and I think people are really going to be baffled by it as much as you are. So I really do appreciate you coming on and just feeling open enough to share it with the community. Yeah, definitely, man.

I appreciate you giving me your ear and letting me get it off my chest. I really do appreciate that. It means a lot. Thank you. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share the show.

Just share the show if you enjoyed it. I know it's an older one, but go ahead and share it because, Many people may not have heard that show, and I know they're going to enjoy it if you enjoyed it. And just remember this Thursday, we're dropping the sequel to this interview on the website for members only. So if that interests you, go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the join button and become a member today. And before we get out of here, I just want to let you guys know a little bit here about some background info. I have many stories I could share about my interactions with Charlie and some of them I probably can't share. I actually had to re-record the intro several times because I started sharing things. I was thinking,

man, Charlie probably doesn't want me sharing that. So one thing I will share with you because I don't think it's that big of a deal is after I released the episode Egress Industries with the Hollow Sky podcast guys, we had a phone call with Charlie where he was kind of helping us out with some intel. And he proved to be very useful during that conversation. But one thing that he said that I don't, know if he realized he said it at the time, but I called him on it. And he kind of was just like, yeah, we were talking about one of the characters in that episode, Bill. And we did not say Bill's first or last name on that show. We wanted to keep his name private. And when we were doing the phone call with Charlie, Charlie's talking about Bill, but he used his full first and last

name. And I called Charlie on. I said, Charlie, I know you've been looking into Bill because you just use his last name and we didn't say that on the show. And he just kind of paused and he said, yeah, I've done my research on him. So Charlie is who he says he is. And that's just one story, one little story I can share with you guys. There's been a lot of things over the years that I've referred to Charlie on and he's pulled through for me with some very good information. And I just want you guys to know that I'm 100% confident in his story and what he shared with us. And what he's going to share on Thursday is just the other side of what happens. And I just the other side of what happened to him after the interview aired. So until next week, friends, stay safe, take care,

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