The Confessionals - 365: The Haunted Hallway
Episode Date: August 17, 2021In Episode 365: The Haunted Hallway, we are joined by multiple guests! Joining us first is Tony’s dad Brian, who discusses with Tony what happened this past weekend when Tony and his brother Jack vi...sited an old World War II POW camp, where Nazis and Japanese soldiers were once interrogated. Things went a little awry for the brothers, and the video of the trip will be released as part of Tony’s ‘Legion of Legends’ series on YouTube in the coming weeks! Following this discussion, guest Chris shares stories of a house where he grew up that was actively haunted by someone who was previously part of his father’s family. Finally, Cora also joins us to discuss her childhood home and a spirit named “Mr. Burns” who used to torment her until her father screamed at him, and her parents eventually sought some outside help to get rid of him. Hammer Lane Legends: https://www.hammerlanelegends.com/SPONSORSGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: https://simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: https://hellofresh.com/confessionals14 Promo Code: "confessionals14" for 14 FREE MEALS!!!GET ACORN.TV: https://acorn.tv/ Promo Code: "tony" (Code must be applied in all lowercase letters!)Get Emergency Food Supplies: http://www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: https://bit.ly/2FbOhN5CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comText Community: Text "YUP" to 844-215-0819Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: merkificationFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkelSHOW INTRO Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3
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And I look over, and there are two small, gray entities.
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I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air.
Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move.
because I know I'm seeing a monster.
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coming. Now, this week we have my dad in the studio right now for the intro and the outro.
If you want to stick around for that, dad. How you doing? I'm doing well. Yourself?
I'm doing fine. I'm glad you're here. Listen, we just got done recording for Hammer Lane
Legends, which is a podcast that me and my dad have. Now, I'm the son of a trucker. Dad's trucker. I
spent many years in driving truck and CDL living. And we have this podcast called the Hammer Lane
Legends. And what do we talk about on that show, Dad, if it's not a parent already?
We talk about trucks and truck driving and the experiences truck drivers have. Yeah, I mean,
we have people come on the show just like this show and they share their experiences or wild crazy
experiences. And we just got done doing two interviews today. We're recording this at 1130. I just look at
the clock now. I thought it was 10.30, 1130 at night on Sunday. We're recording this for you guys.
And I thought it would be cool since he's in the studio to have him on to just hang out a little
bit because I want to tell you guys about what I just did this past weekend with Jack.
And that's my dad's son. And you guys are very familiar with Jack. If you listen to the show for a
long time, he's my younger brother. And we're doing Legion of Legends on YouTube. I've been talking
about it for several weeks, maybe a couple months now. So if you want, go ahead to the YouTube
channel for the Confessionals. Just look it up. The Confessionals on YouTube, hit subscribe because
we're putting Legion of Legends on the Confessionals YouTube channel because it is sponsored and
brought to you by the Confessionals. And me and Jack went to an old World War II prisoner
of war camp this past weekend. And things got weird. How crazy is that? Things got weird,
man. I'm not going to go into great details right now. All I can say is the video that I'm going
to come out with, I think could have come out a lot better.
but things that we hear about on this show happened to us that night that prevented certain things
that I wanted to happen happening. Does that confuse anybody? Yes. Well, it's going to, I'm telling you,
like, it just, it was a wild night. We had K2 meter hits on my, for the EMFs. It's a haunted forest,
lots of Bigfoot activity, lots of dog man sightings. I mean, this place was rich with activity,
and it did not disappoint. And I talked to,
people after that night. I got home. We were there all night long. We left in the morning.
And when I got home, I did some calls to people that I know to talk about this area.
And they told me about things that kind of confirmed my suspicions about why you went there.
And it was just a wild night. We're going back. Me and Jack decided we're going to go back.
And other people that are very familiar with that area said they'll show us some areas to check out and stuff.
Cool. Yeah. I mean, this area is just like I had to.
suspicions. We went to the old World War II camp because not many people know this, but in this
country during World War II, every state had prisoner of war camps. And so many people just don't know
that. I mean, I saw some people commenting when I was talking about going on this that they're like,
oh, yeah, there was one on the West Coast. I'm like, no, it's not just one on the West Coast. There was
every state had these prisoner of war camps, but not every state had prisoner of war camps that
were interrogation camps. That means you capture Nazis and Japanese soldiers. When they come off the boat,
the first stop they go to is an interrogation camp where they're interrogated before they get shipped
out to these other camps. The camp we went to was an interrogation camp. And now everything that I've
tried reading about this stuff online, and granted, I have access to the American side of the
history. Right. But we know that the Nazis, and especially Japanese, were terrible to their POWs.
Yes. They tortured them, killed them. We, from what I read,
weren't exactly like that. I mean, I'm sure you probably smacked the guy around a little bit or something
like that. But, I mean, they had shelter. They had food. They weren't tortured. And at these
interrogation camps, Nazis were being interrogated. And if other Nazi soldiers thought that this
person who just got interrogated was too friendly, too kind, gave too much information to the Americans,
the Nazis killed them. Wow. So it was like Nazis killing Nazis in these interrogation camps,
if it's got a little too friendly between the, you know, the Nazis and the Americans. And so
there's a very high likelihood that the camp that we went to had death in that situation,
not to mention that it was 45 minutes away from Gettysburg, which is the deadliest battle of the
Civil War. So it was a very tense environment. And then we had all the Bigfoot activity in that
area that we've heard about for years, dog man sightings all throughout Pennsylvania. I mean,
Pennsylvania is really becoming well known for these dog man sightings. Wow, that's crazy. I didn't know that.
Yeah, I was talking to a guy when I came home and I was talking about,
this area. I was telling him where I live. And he's like, actually, there's, you don't need to go
that far. Yeah. He's like, I've gotten several reports from your area that there's been dog man
settings. I'm like, well, that doesn't make me feel good. Yeah, about it. Hey, dad, why don't you
take a walk in the backyard night? Yeah, I think not. But, yeah, so I mean, I was really excited about
going to this area. And then when we were walking around doing our thing, I mean, it just didn't
disappoint. And I just want to let people know that I'm working on producing that video and it should be
available hopefully within the next week or so. But I'm telling you, like if you want a little taste
of what it is, go to the Instagram account for the Confessionals podcast and check out. Just look for the
post where it's me with night vision on me. Jack was filming me and just watch my reaction. Now listen,
there's no audio on that video. Okay. I overlaid a soundtrack just like a
creepy soundtrack. So I'm just saying that up from because some people were commenting saying,
I've never heard that sound in the woods before. It's like, well, it's because it's a soundtrack.
Yeah. Of course you have it. It's like a cinematic soundtrack, you know. But it's like a 15 second
video, but just watch it. Watch my body language. And yeah, it was interesting. It was real
interesting. But you and I and Jack are going to be maybe going out in the woods together here in a
few weeks. We've been talking about it. And I'm not going to disclose where we're going. And
what we're going to be doing and stuff. But if we, if we do do it, it's going to be pretty interesting.
I think it's going to be really interesting. Yeah, yeah, real interesting. But,
Dad, thanks for hanging out with me on the intro here. This week we have Cora and Chris coming on the show.
This is a two interview show. And it's a good one. So let's get to it. All right, today we got Chris on the show.
Chris, how you doing, man? Excellent. Tony. So, doing good, man. So, Chris, you sent us this email.
The title of it was the haunted hallway. I was like, ooh.
Sounds juicy. So it's a very interesting story you have here. I wanted to make sure we brought
you on to talk about it. You're up there in Canada and you grew up in a house that was haunted and I'll
let you kind of give the details as to what happened, man. All right. I'll start off a little bit,
kind of talk about myself as a kid and then I'll describe the house a little bit to you. But as a kid,
I used to have a lot of issues of sleep paralysis. I didn't know at the time what it was. I mean,
That was like pre-internet, pre-Dr. Phil kind of thing.
But I used to wake up a lot.
And like I felt like I was being pulled from my bed.
I used to have a lot of, I guess, like, hallucinations.
Because I know like there's a medical description for sleep paralysis,
but I'd often see a lot of strange things in my room.
So there was a lot of times.
I spent a lot of nights sharing a room with my brother because I was just terrified to go to sleep at night.
I don't think that had really anything to do with what was going on in the house,
but it kind of made me, I don't know, maybe open to just being scared and looking for those kinds of things that would terrify a child.
Because I couldn't understand what was happening to me at night.
And I never really talked to my parents about it until it was an adult.
So they never really knew how much I strongly.
struggled. But, um, yeah, basically the house was a, a 1950s rancher. My dad always told me it was
like a post-second world war house. He bought it off a gentleman who was actually terminally ill with
cancer. And, um, basically the previous owner, as far as I know passed away, but part of the
house was left unfinished, an area of the house that we called the back room. It was kind of a,
a no-go zone, especially when we were kids. It later did become my bedroom, but, um,
The house was a, this basic rancher on one side it had a garage on the opposite side of the house.
It had a living room in a kitchen.
And it was just connected.
The two sides were connected with the long hallway, had three bedrooms and a bathroom.
The two bedrooms that me and my brother had were across from each other closest to the garage.
And then the bathroom was across from my parents closer to the living room in the kitchen.
I'm a little nervous.
It's hard for me to kind of figure all this stuff out.
Yeah, it's all good, man.
Yeah, basically, the hallway was just this kind of unspoken no-go zone for me and my brother.
And I actually spoke to him yesterday.
He's not as open to the subject as I am, but it was just an area of the house you didn't go,
especially as a kid.
We never walked in the hallway.
So if you had to leave your bedroom and go to the kitchen,
it was leave your bedroom, go and run in a full sprint.
It was never just nonchalantly walking minding your business.
We didn't play in the hallway as kids until we got older.
It would just be a full sprint from the living room to the bathroom,
from the bathroom to the garage.
It didn't matter where you were going.
You never walked in the hallway.
And you definitely never stopped in the hallway.
It was, I know I explained it in my email,
the only way that I can describe the thing.
feeling and I figured it out as an adult was that have you ever watched the original
movie um trying to it's with Bruce Campbell evil dead I haven't no in the movie itself
it's um there's a lot of scenes where basically these people are in a cabin and they're being
chased by this unseen entity and it as it they're running away and they keep looking back like typical
horror movie thing but as it gets closer to them the music gets louder and it's like this big
build up, right? If you walked in the hallway, you felt like something was coming for you. It didn't,
it's not like it was in the house, but it was coming. Like it was activated somehow. This is,
this is my take on it anyways. You just, if you stood or you walk slow, it just continued to get
worse and like the anxiety started to build up and build up and build up. And so you just basically
took off in a full sprint. You never waited or walked. We only had one bathroom. You stand in the door
over your bedroom and wait for the door to open because at one time there was four kids
and two adults living in the house.
That gets busy.
Yeah.
My dad later built another bathroom, but, you know, it was still, it was something that
kind of, I don't want to use harsh words like scarred or traumatic, but it was something
that stuck with me my whole life.
Like, it was never a comfortable place to be, the hallway or the house, and nobody was ever
hurt or anything like that.
But it was never a good place.
You always felt on edge.
Never felt good when you were in the bathroom, taking a shower.
Like I said, trying to go to bed at night.
It was terrifying.
I'd mentioned earlier that I had so many issues with sleep paralysis.
I had a lot of sleep issues.
I still do to this day.
But I used to play this game as a kid where I would go to bed early because I didn't
want to be the last person awake.
My mom worked really early in the morning.
So by 8 o'clock, she's in bed, 7.
30 sometimes, my brother passes out just standing up.
Like, he just, there was no issues with him.
My dad, you could set a timer to him.
It was like 9.30.
As soon as the TV shut off, he was in bed and he's snoring within five minutes.
If you're not asleep, you're all alone.
And then, you know, that's when the house kind of came alive.
And it could have been hypersensitivity as a child, but it was terrifying.
When you're a kid and stuff, I mean, I imagine a lot of kids get like that when it comes
to like being in the house at night by yourself.
Nobody else is awake.
You can kind of get scared and stuff.
But then when you add the added factor of a reason to be scared, it kind of elevates
everything.
We didn't know as kids.
There's certain topics that were never discussed.
You know, I didn't know as a kid that my dad was previously married.
Those things, I mean, I would have never thought different of them, but it was just
something that was never discussed.
So it was like we had the I had this issue with the hallway.
I know my brother did and I've since spoken to my sister.
And they've all had issues in the house.
But the one person that really comes to mind is my mom.
So so many years later, I mean fast forward years later we grew up and you just kind of,
I don't want to like say grow out, but things just kind of calm down.
My sister still won't go into the house alone.
and she's 40.
But we would always get together for family dinners, like Christmas Easter kind of thing.
And it just got brought up somehow that the subject of the house got brought up.
My dad always kind of played, he just wasn't open to the subject.
I mean, this man religiously watched the X-Files every Friday night.
You know, like, that's probably where maybe some of my sleep troubles came from,
because it was always exciting to me to be able to watch the X-Files.
I mean, he had a big library in a room of the house,
not a gigantic library,
but he always had a lot of books on the paranormal,
on Sasquatch, on alien abduction.
I can see maybe that there was a seed planted a long time ago.
But the subject of the hallway just got brought up,
and it was just this mic drop moment where, you know,
I'm going to say it was probably 25, 26.
I mean, my son was just little.
and I couldn't believe at the time
I had never talked to my brother
or my sister about this or my mom
but we all,
all three siblings just had this moment.
We're like, yeah, the whole way.
Are you kidding me?
We didn't know about this.
My mom turns to my dad and says,
well, isn't that where your late wife passed away?
And I literally wanted to,
I was so shocked
that my entire young life
I was having issues in the house and especially to do with the hallway outside the bathroom door.
And it turns out that that's an area of the house that my dad's late wife had passed away in.
So everything just kind of piled up on me.
I couldn't believe that this has happened.
And I guess I kind of tied all the pieces together.
But yeah, it was we ended up finding out that my dad's late.
wife had suffered a very traumatic event, I guess. From what I understand, and I don't want to
butcher this for my dad's sake, she had suffered a brain aneurism, literally leaving the
washroom, walks directly across to her bedroom, which is my parents' bedroom, and needed help
to get into the bed. And my dad couldn't wake her up after that. Like, it just happened so fast. My
dad lost his wife. It was in the matter of a minute. I mean, and it was over. So these experiences
that you had in the house and that other people have had, I'm assuming your time that all together
circling around her death. Yeah. And I've never met her. Obviously, I was told at a certain
point in my life that she was a very jealous woman. And I don't want to down-talk her at all,
because like I said,
but I mean,
the events that come after,
like there was a lot of things
that got told after this
that I was never aware of.
My mom and I later talked about this,
all the things that kind of happened.
She was a little upset
because I had never come to her as a kid
telling her that I had these issues.
I mean, they're not, I was never hurt.
I never actually physically seen
what I would consider a ghost in the house
or, you know,
a manifestation or anything like that.
But it was always just this lingering feeling everywhere you go.
So you're always on edge.
You can never turn it down.
You can never relax.
But she told me, this is kind of how it came around full circle.
She told me that right after she moved in with my father,
I was just a baby.
They had gotten married.
And from what I understand,
there wasn't a huge gap in.
time between my dad's late wife's passing and to my parents' marriage, maybe a year and a half
or so.
But my mom moved in with my dad in the house and I was a baby.
And my mom told me, like this, I never asked her about this.
He just came forward with this information that she was seeing an entity in the bedroom
every single night.
And basically, she said a lot of times we would start.
off on my dad's side of the bed and walk around the bottom of the bed and then it would come up
the side of the bed towards her and she'd wake up almost the same time every night usually from what
I understand it was always around the three o'clockish mark um she would wake up and I asked her
about this like is it was it kind of a misty figure was it a did it look like a person what did it look
like and she just got the way she described it was that she had this feeling that it was a woman
but it wasn't like a full outline of a human.
It was just something more dense than everything around it.
Like you could just see something was there.
It was moving around the room all the time.
And this happened for months.
She said she'd wake my dad up, turn the light on.
You know, my pops would say there's nobody in the house.
There's nobody in the bedroom.
We must be dreaming.
But this happened consecutively over and over and over again.
And I guess she finally kind of figured out that it might have been something to do.
with my dad's late wife because it was the same bedroom that she had basically passed away in
and um she spoke to this manifestation and told it that uh she loved my dad and that she was going to
take care of them and um she said she never had another issue again with whatever was bothering her
in the house but i mean we still had problems as kids my my sister told
me on many occasions she seen a woman in the house.
As a teenager, I used to have, my friends would sleep over all the time.
And I had one friend that would always wake me up and say, dude, there was a woman
standing beside your bed.
Like, he was sensitive that way.
Like, there was always this woman around in the house, even though I never seen her.
But it's what really kind of got me going.
At this point, after this was all figured out, I'm listening to your podcast.
and I'm like, you know what the hell?
I'll send them an email and see what happens.
And then you contacted me back.
But ironically, something else happened after that moment.
Like there had been no activity in the house for 30 years.
Everything was just fine.
But I had since moved to an area of my province called the Okinawagian.
My brother had him and his wife had packed up and left.
as well and come out to the same area that we live in.
And my parents started thinking, well, maybe they might decide to come out this way.
Like to sell the family home, my dad's owned it for 40 years.
And this is when it started getting kind of weird.
My parents would start emptying out the attic.
I mean, there's 40 years worth of stuff in this attic.
And at first it was no big deal.
It's like I said, it's an old rancher style house and my dad would crawl up there and, you know, handboxes down to my mom.
And they would leave the attic open.
It's just like a little hatch in the roof.
And there was no issues at first.
But my mom kind of nonchalantly had talked to my wife on the phone and said,
something's really bothering me in the house.
I think it's haunted.
And I remember calling my mom after my wife had told me this and having this conversation.
She was kind of reluctant to talk about it.
And I was like, come on, mom.
This is me you're talking about all these.
I listen to all these kind of podcasts.
This is right up my alley.
But basically, she started saying that she was being followed in the house.
And she hadn't had any issues.
for over 30 years since she had previously told that whatever she was seeing in the bedroom that
you know she loved my dad and everything was going to be fine and all of a sudden now what was
happening was a little bit more aggressive from what I understand is she was being poked
her clothes and her hair were being pulled on she said she was being followed in the house like
she was never felt like she was alone she was terrified to take a shower and at one
point she even told my dad she was going to get a hotel room because she couldn't stay in the
house it was just like this cloud was falling around everywhere like she just she was never alone
and um i just remember like i'm not a ghost expert or a haunting expert i'm just a guy with
interests but um i kind of just asked her a couple questions but you know is is is a dog
acting weird and she said no i'm like are you putting
things down and they're not there when you go to get them again.
And just no.
I'm like, you know, they're flickering lights.
Is there any kind of thing in the house that that's really standing out to you besides
the fact that you're just being harassed?
She said, no, everything in the house is fine except for the fact that once again,
she's being woken up, three o'clock-ish in the morning.
And there's something in the bedroom.
She's being poked.
She's being pulled.
And she's just being generally harassed.
the point where it's like something is trying to drive her out of the house. And I asked my dad,
what side of the bed does mom sleep on? And, you know, ironically, it turns out it's the same
side of the bed that his late wife had used to sleep on. And so basically it came down to my mom
was threatening to move out. Like, not leave my dad, but she couldn't stay in the house anymore.
We've got to get out of here. This is getting too much. And I had asked my mom,
I said, you know, but I'm personally not a religious guy.
So I felt like it was hypocritical of me to suggest this.
But just from what I've listened to on your podcast and other things,
I asked her if she would consider praying in the house.
My mom is a religious person, but I have a brother-in-law who at the time,
I don't know about now, was very devout Christian.
And I suggested that my mom invite him over to pray in the attic.
But before that happened, I had kind of asked him, like, what did you guys do to that started all this?
And she said, well, we've just been emptying out the attic.
Well, what did you find in the attic?
What are you emptying out?
And it turns out that they were, they found a bunch of my dad's late wife's stuff.
that had been up there for 30 years, more than 30 years.
And a lot of it, my mom felt like it had to do with these figurines that my dad's late wife
used to collect.
People, I don't know, but now a lot of people collect knickknacks and I personally don't,
but she had all these porcelain cats and they were all wrapped up in newspaper and put into
boxes and just put away. But near the very back of the attic, the very kind of last area of the
attic that my parents had emptied out, they brought these cats down. And it was kind of, from what I
understand, my dad's late wife's kind of very prized possession, something she cared a lot about.
And this box was sitting open in the dining room, and the attic was still open. And my mother had my
brother-in-law come over. He went into the attic, and he prayed in the attic. I don't know what
said it wasn't there because I'm about four and a half hours away from my parents.
And then they packed these items up and put them into the garage as far as I know.
And I suggested that my parents speak to whatever is in the house that is bothering them.
And my dad is quite old now.
He's 82 years old.
So it's kind of hard to convince him, you know, hey, pops, would you mind talking to
the spirit of your past wife.
It was an awkward subject to have with your dad, especially since it was, you know,
30, 35 years ago, maybe a little bit more.
But they both, from what I understand, took their time to walk through the house
individually and just explain the situation.
Like, I didn't know what else to do for them.
I'm so far away, but, and my mom said that they haven't had an issue
cents. It was just like the heaviness had been lifted. And after they were able to explain
kind of what was going on, it was really interesting for me because there had been nothing for so
long until they interrupted these old boxes that were full of my dad's late wife stuff.
Yeah, it sounds like it. I mean, it sounds like, I mean, I don't even know how to refer to it,
but it almost sounds like her spirit was dormant because it was like there was a,
an agreement almost where your mom said, I love him, going to take care of them. And it was at that
point, okay. And then there's a whole other story when you're saying, you're going to take my
stuff and you're moving him away and you're leaving. It's the word dormant is actually perfect.
I never even thought about it that way. It was, it's exactly how it was. Like like I said earlier,
even till this day, my sister's 40, she will not go in the house alone. My parents go. They have a
vacation trailer, they'll go for a week or two weeks out of time. They just ask her to come over
and check the mail. She won't go in the house. Not alone. Sometimes she'll send her kids in just to
check, but she won't go in there by herself. Yeah. Well, has your sister ever seen anything in the
house and make sure that's scared or was just the feeling that you had to? I actually spoke to her
yesterday because I wanted to just get permission to kind of tell the story on behalf of other people.
and she said she had seen a woman in the house many times
and we at one point had a foster sister
who my sister said seen similar things
I mean I haven't spoken to her in over 20 years
so but she said she was
I assume that she was quite happy to have left
you know my sister and I seem to have been more afflicted
my brother was able to kind of deal with it differently.
I don't want to speak on his behalf, but,
um,
yeah,
it was,
it's just interesting that to use the word dormant because it just,
nothing happened,
nothing significant happened for so many years.
We're talking decades.
And then they interrupt or they,
they disturb this stuff and they're talking about moving.
They're actually just bought a house,
so they will be moving,
but,
um,
My mom said that when she talked to the house,
whoever she spoke to,
she explained that they were not going to throw those items away,
that they would be given to members of my dad's late wife's family.
So I hope that's what happens.
I don't know, to this day, I don't know where those boxes are,
but I'm sure they're not anywhere near the house.
Do you think that it's going to be uncomfortable for your,
dad to do that to go see her family after all these years?
He is, he's in contact with, he has a granddaughter and a daughter.
They don't speak very often.
I mean, it's a sensitive topic, but he wanted to give those items to his granddaughter.
He actually has two great granddaughters as well.
So as far as I know, that's where he.
wants those items to go.
So at least they're with somebody that I don't, you know, maybe can look after them.
But yeah, I think it will be a tough subject to bring up.
It's not going to be comfortable for him, especially at his age.
Man.
Yeah, well, man, paranormal making you do uncomfortable things.
You know?
Yeah.
I never really, I was, I guess, fortunate because some of the episodes,
that's why I was kind of apprehensive about writing,
because some of the episodes I listened to are quite terrifying.
And this isn't as terrifying of an experience.
You know, everybody's, I want to assume that most people see things as kids,
but this for me was always just an ever-present feeling that was always in the house.
Just, you know, always had a, there was always a part of my life that had,
that, you know, at those years of my life before I moved out, it was always there.
As kids, I mean, I was talking to my brother yesterday, I was asking, do you ever see anything
in the house? He talked about the hallway. He couldn't explain the hallway to me. He kind of
chopped it up as being, we were just kids. You don't want to look in a dark, empty room as you
pass by, you know, an open door. But he says, it was interesting.
He told me that we had two separate bedrooms across the hall from each other, but he said he would wake up all the time and I'd be sitting in the chair next to him and he'd get pissed off.
I'm like, what are you doing?
Get out of here.
Throw his pillow at me and it would go right through me.
And I just found this out yesterday.
That's weird.
It was really weird.
He'd never told me this before.
And then he said he'd get up because he was scared and he'd come into my.
room and I'd be sleeping. That's, that's freaky. And, and now it's like, okay, well, why are you
appearing to your brother like that, you know? I mean, up to this point, it's just been a female
entity and now we have this. Yeah, I just found this out yesterday. I had no idea. But apparently
he's like, that's why I used to crawl into bed with you all the time too. I was too scared.
But, I mean, we used to have bunk beds in our room when we shared a room when my sister was still
living in the house and I'm the older siblings. So naturally I got the top bunk, but there were
a lot of nights that I would hear things on the floor, like something in the room, but I was too
scared to look down over the edge. That could be just chopped up as to being a kid and it's a dark
room. But my brother was down there on the bottom bunk. I was too damn afraid to just pick my head
over to see what the hell was in the room, you know, right beside him, I guess it would be. I always
kind of referred to it as the boogeyman in our room. But yeah, even till this day, all that
kind of stuff, like I mentioned, I was never hurt, nothing traumatic really ever happened.
It's an interesting story. But till this day, I mean, it's left me really open to these topics.
Like, I really pay attention to how my, I have three kids. I pay attention to how they act in the
house. Like if they're scared, you know, I asked them why they came and crawled into my bed or
things like that if something bothering you. It makes me I'm super hyper sensitive and hyper aware
what is going on in whatever else we live in because of that, until this day.
Well, man, I appreciate you sharing on the show. It sounds like a haunted house that I wouldn't
want to live in, that's for sure. You know what? My parents did the best they could. It was,
we had a good life. We had a good upbringing. I honestly can't complain. It's just I thought
it was a story that was worth sharing because
there were so many unanswered
questions until
it was an adult and then
so many pieces of puzzles started
to kind of fall into place.
I don't want to blame anybody
but I just thought
it was too much of a coincidence
at the end to find out
that my siblings
were having the same issue, that my mom
was having issues.
Basically everybody but my dad as far as I know
that ever lived in the house was being tormented at one point or another.
Yeah, that kind of throws a clue right there, doesn't it?
I mean, the fact that your dad is the only one that never really had an experience
and it was his wife.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's always reluctant to talk about it.
I mean, he's a hell of a good guy.
He was a, he, he's a, yeah, he's just a hell of a good guy.
He had a hard life, you know, especially as a kid.
He grew up in Berlin during the second.
World War. And he's seen some shit. Excuse my language. He's seen some stuff. So when it comes to something
maybe as simple as somebody seeing a ghost in the house, he just brushes it aside.
Yeah, well, I guess I would too. I mean, if I grew up where your dad grew up, man, yeah,
a ghost is the least of my worries. Yeah, exactly. But he's made the best of it. You know, he's raised a
family and like I said he's a hell of a good guy.
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Getting yourself? I'm doing fine. So you're out there on the West Coast and you have freaking
snow. How does that work? I thought California was supposed to be nice and sunny all the time.
I know it's frustrating. We just had really awesome, amazing weather. It was like spring weather,
and then now it's just snowing again. It's crazy. I mean, not too long ago, Texas got the snowstorm.
You guys, I'm thinking to myself, something's happening. Something's happening. The world's about to end.
Must be. I mean, soon as soon as it's going to be snowing in Hawaii. So.
That wouldn't surprise me.
I know, right? So you have these paranormal experiences that happened throughout your life.
And it starts when you're a young kid and it goes into, you know, more of adulthood and stuff.
But it's kind of like a progression of different things that happened.
So we're just going to start off from when you were the youngest here.
I mean, you were young, young.
I think you said it first started when you were a baby.
And this character that somebody named, I'd like to know who named him this, but the name Mr.
Burns.
And he comes into the scene.
So take it away and share with us what happened there.
So Mr. Burns is actually no one, that was his name.
He actually had died in the house that I kind of grew up in when I was a kid when this all started happening.
He wasn't like, it was just an old guy died in the house.
He was kind of just a jerk, like a really big jerk and would always just terrorize me when I was a baby to the point where my father would actually just get so angry.
and stand in my room and just scream, scream at him to stop.
Most of everything that I know about Mr. Burns actually comes from my father and my mom.
My dad would be making coffee and then he would be like,
over his shoulder and he wore this terrible cologne.
I guess that was extremely smelling that would always just go around the house.
and this is I don't know
it went on for about
four years
and I actually saw him
jumping up a few years
I was the creepiest thing
I saw him he was
he walked by me kind of floated
I guess and he was wearing
like a cowboy hat or a top hat
and like had a nice shirt on and stuff
it was just like super creepy smiling
like really big creepy smile
and just floated by just staring at me.
And it was, oh man, it was so creepy.
It was terrible.
And coming back from that, though, eventually my mom's brother, my uncle, had a friend that had a spirit friend or whatever you want to call it.
And this person brought his spirit friend into our house and supposedly had a spirit friend.
taken Mr. Burns out of the house.
Like his spirit friend, sat for a little bit, grabbed Mr. Burns, and somehow Mr. Burns
was just gone.
It was, it was weird.
And so you were four years old when he was pretty much done?
Four or five, yeah.
Okay.
And we actually had moved out of the house after that.
Did you move out because you guys were done with the whole situation, or was it just,
you know, happenstance that happened around the same time?
I haven't seen, you know, my little sister, my little brother came in the picture, and my parents decided to buy a house and a little farm in town, and that's where we left.
Okay. So I find it interesting that Mr. Burns isn't somebody that pops on the scene and only the kids sees it, but your dad saw it, too. Was it something that, like, everybody would see Mr. Burns around?
Actually, yeah, yeah. There was, like, my dad would be sitting on the porch of his friends, and he'd be like, who's the man in your house?
It's like, oh, no, Mr. Burns, just ignore it.
Wow.
Yeah.
And so was your dad, did he feel like Mr. Burns was threatening to you?
And that's why he was getting angry.
It was more of just like, I'm sick and tired of this guy hanging around here and is, you know, bothering my kid.
Yeah, I think that's what it was.
I'm just sick of it.
I'm sick of him scaring her.
Like, I'm over it.
Got mad, yelled at him.
And, yeah, that was a thing.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Interesting. And you probably said this, but I don't remember. Was he a former owner of the house? Like, he had died there?
Yeah. Yep. Okay. Yeah, I wasn't sure how that whole situation worked out and stuff. But I was very curious as to how the name Mr. Burns came to play. But I'd never really consider that it was actually the person's name. I was thinking, I was thinking, oh, there must be some kind of story where this entity tried lighting the house on fire or something.
Nope, nope. His last name was just burned. I got no, his first name. So we just,
was called Mr. Burns.
Okay.
So you guys move away, you move into a new area, and your parents started what I guess you
guys called card night where, you know, friends would come over and they would play cards.
And some activities started happening there too, huh?
Yes.
No, it was absolutely weird.
One of the creepiest moments of my life.
And I was about nine years old when this happened.
All of us, I mean, my friends, my dad's friends would come over.
They play cards, 31 with quarters and kind of like,
little fun gambling night between friends.
And all of us kids would kind of just be hanging out in the living room, whatever.
Well, I was really tired, so I decided to go in bed.
And I kind of just, I looked over and I thought my little sister was putting her shoes on
because there was just like this little girl hanging out, putting her shoes on.
And so I said my sister's name, was he, Danielle.
What are you doing?
Well, it wasn't any else.
She looked at me and was like, looking at me and was like, looking at me and she had me.
like I'm crazy because I just called her the wrong name or something.
And I realized it wasn't Danielle and I realized that it wasn't an actual person.
So, you know, typical scared throw the blankets over your head.
That's going to protect me situation.
And then when I came back out, she was gone.
Did anybody else see her ever?
No, known that it was just me.
And there's actually a story behind it.
This little girl actually had her parents had lived in the house before us.
apparently. My grandma actually ended up doing all this research on it. And she was walking across
the road but ended up getting hit by a log truck, this little girl. And her name was Delaney.
And her shoes ended up kind of where my room was. So, and I guess that would make a lot of sense
of why I saw her putting her shoes on. So I went actually to one of the older, there's two
cemeteries in that town.
I went to one of them and sure is rain.
There's her little gravestone.
That's creepy.
That's creepy.
How old were you when this happened?
Like nine, nine years old, 10 years old.
I mean, shoot, man.
I would imagine chills would just shoot up my spine when I see the actual gray plot.
I'm like, she's really actually dead.
Holy crap.
Yeah, it was definitely.
It was definitely something.
Yeah, it kind of puts everything into a different perspective for reality.
I mean, I imagine going over to the graveyard, you're thinking, okay, we're going to find this,
that, and the other.
But once you actually lay eyes on it, I'm thinking, man, it just kind of puts it all in reality for you.
That's really interesting.
It definitely showed me that there's more than our reality.
Like, most definitely, that's, I mean, you know, Mr. Burns and such, you know, growing up in that house,
I mean, I was kind of already, you know, I already knew, but seeing that was definitely a game changer for me.
Oh, yeah.
Like, why I don't understand why she decided to just show herself to me, but I thought she finally found her shoes.
Yeah, it makes you wonder how that all works and stuff.
I mean, people talk about, you know, the idea of like, um, uh, now I'm dropping, you know,
my brain here and I can't remember the term for it, but like, uh, time loops, you know, uh, residual energy, you know?
And when you think about that stuff, it makes you wonder if what you experience there only happens
at a certain time during the year or something like that where you're able to see it.
But yeah, it's definitely interesting.
And, man, yeah, I'd just rather not see a little ghost girl in my room at night.
I don't want to either.
It just happens.
Yeah.
So as you're getting older and stuff, your mom kind of,
shifts course. I mean, it sounded like she's shifted courses. You said that she started playing with
witchcraft. Is that something that she kind of always dabbled in and just got more serious about it?
Or was there something that happened that spawned her to get involved in it?
I think that at that point when she did start, you know, playing with it, getting all these
books on it and all kinds of stuff, I think it was just kind of a phase that she had went through.
But, you know, that stuff is, you know, you can't, you can't,
play with that stuff, like, at all.
You just, you can't unless you know what you're doing.
Even then, it's still, uh-uh, I wouldn't.
Yeah, I can understand that.
I mean, how old was she when she started that?
Oh, shoot.
She was in her 20s, I suppose, maybe almost 30.
Okay, so she was relatively young still.
I mean, she wasn't, you know, 45, 50 and trying to find a new path in life.
No, no, it wasn't a big life crisis.
I got you.
I got you.
So when that started happening, though, when she started messing around that stuff,
you had some things happening in the house again, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
A lot of weird stuff.
Like I mentioned the X, the X.
I just kind of nickname it, the X.
It was like this weird little, it was like a dog, but without, like, ears.
It was the weirdest, like, a little thing, but there was a giant red X.
on its back. And this thing would terrorize me all the time. It would jump up on my bed. It would
like stare at me like with human eyeballs had and just weird things. This thing was always
bothering me like all the time. Hold on a second. You said it was like a blob with a face?
Kind of, yeah. But it had like a, it was like a little terrier dog. I guess that's just for size
comparison. And it had a red X on its back. It looked like a red X. So that's why I kind of just
called it the X.
Interesting.
Interesting.
So it has like a red X on its back.
But there's,
was there no real kind of definitive form to its body?
I just,
I keep,
I always just compare it in my head,
especially just to a dog.
Like,
it was a small dog,
but it had no hair and no tail
and just had creepy human eyes.
Interesting.
I wonder what that could be.
I mean,
it sounds like the way you're describing it,
it sounds like it probably,
it wasn't exactly a dog,
but kind of similar.
So you really just to have no idea what that was about.
Yes, I really, I really don't.
And it happened for like three, four years.
Like, I still, sometimes I still even just dream about it
because it was such a prominent thing in my life.
It was insane.
How old were you when that was happening?
10, 11, yep.
Were you still, were you still rooming with your sister?
Yeah, yep.
Did she ever have an experience or see it or anything?
thing?
Uh, you know, we've talked about it and she definitely remembers it. I don't know if she
ever actually saw it. I can't, you know, I mean, it's been a while since we've talked
about the ex-huh, because we know, we're all growing up now, but I'm actually, you know,
I'm not about asking her about that and see, see, because I'd actually be pretty interested
to hear her opinion. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, uh, you know, you guys bunking together and
stuff. She missed out on the on the ghost girl. I mean, it'd be a shame for four years. She missed out
on the blob with an excellent. She knew it was there and I always freaked out about it. So,
I mean, she's she's had some interesting situations with me with dreams and stuff that she woke up
too. And yeah. So, I mean, she didn't miss out a whole lot to crazy sleeper sisters. That was
tormented by the ex.
So, I mean, one, do you think that there's something maybe, I don't know, about you that you were having these experiences and she really wasn't?
And she was more of a byproduct of, you know, seeing you go through the experiences.
Well, go ahead and answer that first.
Yeah, you know, that's a really good question.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, I've seen growing up, I always like had weird things happen to me.
And she has too.
but she was more on the side of ignoring it rather than like, you know, acknowledging it,
whereas, you know, I would, I would just, it would freak me out or it would like trip me out.
So I would always pay attention to it instead of, you know, ignoring it.
What do you think the chances are of the blob experiences being more along lines of like dreams?
Do you think that you were fully awake during these experiences?
Yeah.
Yeah.
definitely was. And it didn't just happen at night either. It was this thing was just constantly
there. It was tormenting. It just freaked me out and would jump on my bed and stuff at night.
I got you. So it was very real. It wasn't like you were all of a sudden jolted by this thing.
And, you know, it was like the quick transition of from sleeping realm to awake. It was more of
very consistently while you're awake. Yeah.
Yeah. I got you. I don't know what to make of that. Never heard of a blob dog with an X in the back, but
it was the weirdest thing. I don't, I don't know why. I don't. That's his name and that's what it
looks like. So later in life, you wind up dating a guy that, I guess, I guess, I don't know if
he told you he was a Satanist or by just his actions and what you experienced, you kind of figured
it out. But before you get into those experiences that you had with him, do you think that your mom
being into witchcraft had anything to do with you being attracted to this guy being a Satanist?
I don't think so, no. I actually, I wasn't really, I didn't know, like at the time that we
started seeing each other that he was. Like, he kind of withheld that information for a while.
Shame on him. Shame, shame, shame, shame.
So tell me about these experiences then.
Okay, well, just to, you know, just to start off, he worships or, you know, he's Satanist, of course, but like, one of his main people that he, like, I don't know, praise to Santa Morti.
I guess she's like the saint's death.
I guess that's what translates into.
So he does just a lot of weird, creepy things.
and like he would do blood sacrifices
and like burn his blood and do weird things
and he would always like
pentagram like he would put salt like on our doors
and like around the windows and stuff
and he was always very angry and
he's always like freaked out about everything
like everything because
every time that he would do some creepy little ritual
like burning his blood or doing blood sacrifices
or you know whatever he had going on
like he would bring sticks
and all kinds of weird stuff and do weird like chants and pray down and just horrible kind of stuff.
Actually, it was quite disturbing.
I tried not to be around for a lot of it.
But I had, you know, every time he would do it, there would always be something like he would invite something into the house.
And then like instead of like people put salt around doors and windows and stuff to keep things out.
He would do it to like after it came in to keep it.
in. Like, he liked that its presence being there. And it was always so terrible. I've literally
just witnessed like mirrors breaking out of nowhere. Can't even tell you how many times
I replaced mirrors. I thought he was punching him until I saw it for myself. Um, and he would
always just like every time after he would always just kind of stare off in his face, especially if he
was in front of a mirror. It was like he was looking at something and they were like communicating in
some weird way. I've had things thrown at me. I've seen some really terrible, like, dark, really
tall figures, like seven feet tall things. A lot of the time they were walking around the outside of the
house, weird, weird things like that. It was never, it was never quiet while he was around. And he
had ended up actually being pretty abusive. So after he left, there was still,
weird things in the house that I ended up leaving that house too, so don't have to deal with that
stuff anymore. Do you think that the tall, you know, figures that you saw walking around
outside the house weren't coming in because he had the salt on the doors?
I mean, I guess if, you know, in that kind of stuff, I suppose that's how it kind of works.
But like I said, he would always do it to keep things in, but the outside things was just weird.
Like he, I don't know, it was like he could just, like, tell them what he wanted them to do and they would just do it.
Like, and they weren't, they weren't human.
Like, I did not feel that at all.
It was always the weirdest, coldest, like, foggy feeling when they were around, and it never eased up.
Was he, if you know, I don't know if you know this, but was he practicing, you know, solo, or was he part of a coven?
Oh, he was, it was solo.
I mean, his family, he's actually from Guatemala.
So, he's, you know, a lot of his family is still in Guatemala, and they do a lot of that stuff.
Still, like, that's pretty, that's a pretty big religion or practice that they tend to lean on to.
Yeah, and that makes sense because I was reading about it, as you mentioned it here.
And how do you pronounce a Santa Marta?
Is that how you pronounce it?
Santamorte.
Morte.
Morty.
I'm Spanish and I don't even know how to speak Spanish, so thank you.
But it says here, just on the Wikipedia and stuff,
often short, let's see here.
It's a cult image, female deity, and folk saint in Mexican neo-paganism
and folk Catholicism.
So yeah, I guess it, where did I see here?
I saw it somewhere in here.
She's associated with healing, protection, and safe delivery to the afterlife by,
her devotees.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I guess when he's doing his things, maybe what you're seeing on the outside of the
house are things in that trip, things or spirits or souls or something transitioning.
But you said that they interacted with them too where they actually listened to him.
So that's, that's very interesting.
Yeah, it was the creepiest thing.
Like he, I mean, this, it was, it was just not like, you know, everything that you just said about her
I mean, that's the thing, but he was also, which is kind of contradicting what you think about it, because he was, you know, Satanist, right? And like, you know, their rules or whatever to live by, like, destroying anybody who has to your home without permission or kind of crazy stuff like that. That's why he said he liked it. But I think that he was more into the evil part about it. Like, he wasn't, he wasn't bringing, like, souls. Like, these were not human souls.
were something else. Yeah, it's interesting. And I mean, if he was practicing solo, to me,
it would make sense that somebody who's kind of doing it on their own might pull from different
aspects of different religions to kind of make it a, you know, like a casserole of religions or
whatever. Now, you said that you saw the mirrors breaking. What was that experience like? I mean,
What was going on that you actually saw the mirror, mirror crack or shatter or whatever?
I mean, did you actually see an entity in the mirror as that he was talking to?
Or what was going on?
I didn't see.
When he was just kind of staring into the mirror and staring off after he did his weird spell stuff, it was kind of just like, he was kind of just like, he was kind of like, he was kind of like, he was almost like, he was definitely looking at something I couldn't see it.
But it was like he would just like stare at it and the just mirror would just break.
Like he kind of, like, it was almost like, like, like a movie, like he was telepathically breaking the mirror, but he was, it was something that he was communicating with.
And it was just, it is broke.
It was the weirdest.
I scared me.
I left.
I was, like, shaking.
I was all freaked out.
My heart was racing.
I got old, like, cold.
My whole face went cold.
It was, it was terrifying.
Yeah.
And he was just like, it was like a normal thing.
Like, I don't understand why, but he.
it was normal to him.
Well, I mean, imagine if you do something enough, it becomes very secondary to you.
Whenever I hear stuff like that, I always try to think of a time of my life where, you know, a scary situation became normalized.
And when I used to, in my early 20s, I used to be one of those guys that wrote parking tickets and booted cars and towed cars away in the city and all that stuff.
And the city I was doing it in is really known for a lot of violence. And very early on, it became very
apparent to me that doing this job was definitely a dangerous job and I needed to be alert. And so
every day driving to work into the city, I would pray for protection because I was very nervous to do
my job. And then as time went on, I became numb to the environment I work in and it no longer
scared me. And it actually at some point, it almost became like a, like a mental game, like
understanding how the psychological aspect of these, the people who are coming at me every day,
it became different, very different. And it was no longer scared, but more intrigued as I was
going to work. And so when I think about people like him, I imagine if you do it enough,
it doesn't necessarily become a scary thing like it maybe once was, but more of an intrigue factor
because it's like when you push yourself to the limit of something and you realize you were able
to come back from that unscathed, the next time you do it, you want to go a little bit further
and you just keep going and going and going until you realize that the starting point you were at,
you know, two, three years ago, the terrifying point you were at, you're so far beyond that that
that doesn't even phase you. So, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And I think that's definitely
where he was at because these evil things being around, seeing these crazy things, like terrified
me and he was just like, like a normal day. Just, you know, don't worry about it. Don't pay,
any attention to it. It'll be fine. Like, okay. Sure, I'll try. Yeah. So you mentioned about
seeing things fly off shelves and stuff. During these experiences with the mirrors breaking,
things flying off shelves. Did you ever feel like these experiences that you were personally having
were directed towards you and maybe to scare you or to harm you? Or do you think that you were just a
byproduct witnessing things because of what he was doing? There was definitely a few times where
I felt as though it was like a blatant attack on me. Like something didn't want me there. Something
didn't want me around. Like it would be pretty, pretty easily like, it,
things were coming at me.
Like I got hit with remotes and candles,
like the little tea light candles, little white ones.
I have like a cute little wall hanger
and they had like the tea light candles in it
and those were just come out of nowhere,
just heading out.
I got to be in the kitchen and they're coming from the living room.
There was a few times where I definitely thought or felt,
like especially when me and him argued.
Or, you know, we were mad at each other.
there was definitely times where it seemed as though it was a blatant attack on me.
Most definitely.
So kind of like, how dare you yell at my boy?
Kind of, yeah, I guess, you know, that makes sense, putting it that way.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, if you think about it, like, if there are entities hanging around because of him,
whether he summoned them or whatever, there's an attachment, maybe there's a possessive,
not maybe not necessarily possession, which certainly probably could have been in the equation,
but more of a possessive attitude when it comes to these things where they want him for for themselves
and you kind of get in the way of his emotions for them, you know?
Yeah, that's probably extremely accurate, actually.
So I didn't ask you this earlier about your mom.
You just kind of briefly touched on her activity.
Did she pursue that for a long time?
Is she still pursuing it?
Or is it something that was just a phase that was in and out pretty quickly?
She maybe did it for about, I want to say maybe a year.
But I also tried not to pay attention to do much.
And she didn't really want us to know that she did.
I just kind of hard to hide that stuff.
And I was old enough to kind of catch on to weird things happening, you know, different hobbies and such.
But she doesn't anymore.
It doesn't seem as though, like, she's not even like a little bit.
this person at all. So she's, yeah, she's just kind of, you know, she hasn't, as far as I know,
she hasn't still pursue it. Okay. And, uh, the experience you had with the blobby, doggy,
Mr. X thing, whatever it is, do you think that was spawned on from your mom's activity? Or do you
think that was two, okay, so you do? Yes. Do you think that that was a, how do you define that?
I mean, do you define that as that there was a spiritual entity, a dog spiritual entity, a demonic entity?
What do you think that was?
Well, it definitely wasn't, it wasn't a dog.
I think that it was, it was a dark little evil thing is what it was.
I don't know why it shows that shape or form or creepy self, but it was definitely not.
It was definitely evil.
Like, it wasn't, there's nothing about it that wasn't dark.
Yeah, it makes me wonder about the whole X thing.
because I'm pretty sure there's some kind of symbolism there that I'm not thinking of when it comes
to an X and what you experience.
I mean,
I imagine some people probably are listening and they're thinking, I know exactly what that X means,
you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Honestly, thing just scared me all the time.
And it was always there.
It got to the point where I guess, yeah, at that point, too, I was used to seeing it.
There's a terrifying part whatsoever like we just talked about.
but it just, I never actually really looked into it too much.
There was one time where I did, and I think that what, if I remember, right, what came up was mostly, it was like, took the form of one of my biggest fears, and it definitely wasn't like a, it was a dark, evil situation.
And I don't know why it would have the red eggs on it, but I think that did have some of them.
I just, I don't remember.
It was a while back where I even, I even thought about this thing, honestly.
Yeah, I can understand.
Well, I'll tell you what, Cora, I appreciate you coming on and sharing these experiences.
It's been interesting.
And the, uh, the boyfriend you had and stuff, how long were you in a relationship with him?
Oh, a little over a year.
Did it end because of this stuff?
Or was it just like, you know, you realize that he was a douche?
He actually, he got, um, I, I had a son with him.
and while I was pregnant, he got violent with me and abusive.
So I kicked him out.
He was a douche.
I got you.
I know you mentioned he was getting violent with you and stuff,
but do you think that was because of what he was dabbling in,
or do you think he was just a violent person in general?
I think it was because of what he was dabbling in.
He didn't, I don't think he was, he would only be like that
or get like really angry or any kind of weird mood that he'd be in
would be after he'd done some weird things.
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My dad is still here.
Dad, how you doing?
Still doing okay.
Still doing okay after like, what, 10 minutes ago when I asked you that question and we record the intro?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
So listen, I just want to remind people to go ahead and check out Hammer Lane Legends.
It's a podcast you and I've been doing for, what, a year and a half now?
Yep, just about.
Like, tomorrow is going to be episode 75.
We've done it 75 weeks straight, 75 episodes. It's you and I hanging out talking to other drivers. We've talked to people
from the military, you know, truck drivers, people driving Uber, city buses, even landscapers. We talk to a lot of people,
but we try to focus on the transportation industry and having people coming on that drive for a living to share
their crazy experiences and just talk about life. It's just a fun conversational show. It is. It is a fun
conversational show. Yeah. So it's Hammer Lane Legends. You can check us out on the website.
site, hammerlay and ledges.com or any podcast playing app. And we even have a YouTube channel.
And what Jack's going to be doing is I gave him my old GoPro. And he's going to mount that to his
truck during the day. Jack owns a pest control company. Greenway pest control, right? Or is it greenway
natural pest control? That's just greenway pest control. All your pest control needs.
And trying to give him a plug, you know. At least in the greater Allentown area.
Yeah. Help the young blood out, you know. But what he's going to do is,
he's going to mount the GoPro to his pickup truck and he's going to film the road while he's
driving and then he's going to take that footage and put it on YouTube and overlay our show
audio to that video so that it's kind of cool content where it's just like he's posting
video of him driving around and you'll be able to listen to the Hammer Lane Legends that way
on YouTube. So we're trying some things with the YouTube channel. But listen, if all else fails,
check out the website, hammerlayledges.com, or on any podcast playing app. We are there, Spotify,
Iheart Radio, Apple, Pod Bean, you name it, we're there, Stitcher. So we would greatly appreciate
if you checked it out, right? Yes, we would. Most definitely. So until next week, friends,
stay safe, take care, and remember, the truth will set you free, but first it'll piss you off.
Bye.
Awaken from the forest in the depths of the abyss. This creature is a paradigm of time.
lost and time itself. It fears no one. It adheres to no rule that man can create. It forges
its own path and yet its path remains hidden from the world. The sphere of his existence
is beyond most comprehension as it exudes its power quietly but transcendent. It needs no
one's approval to exist but yet its very existence is sought after by many.
It watches. It learns. Adapt to the ever-changing environment around it, even as the environment is wrought with corruption.
It battles the corruption only when pressed or for the protection of others like it.
It is a mirage that few will ever understand. It's a cornucopia of knowledge from an era, long past.
It's free. It's Bigfoot.
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genocide. Everything is medicalized. Politicians selling the ride. A betterma die where the relevance lies.
They're dressing alike. Reptillions. My resilience is brilliant. I'm here to lead the rebellion on
alien alien with no melanin i'm a yeti ain't hiding from armageddian come and find me i ain't even hiding
we ain't the same i play no game due to i know
