The Confessionals - 405: Paranormal Military Encounters

Episode Date: January 4, 2022

In Episode 405: Paranormal Military Encounters, we are joined by Nick from the Instagram account Tales From The Gridsquare! Using his Instagram account, Nick is archiving thousands of stories from mil...itary personnel who tell him about their bizarre encounters while out on deployment or stateside on military bases. Nick reached out to us after appearing on Sasquatch Chronicles and let us know he had many stories to share beyond the topic of bigfoot. He shares those stories with us on Episode 405, and even more on an Overtime episode.Join The Confessionals on "The Spirits Are Inn" tour when we visit the Shanley Hotel in New York on April 8-9, 2022 as we have a two-day and one-night haunted adventure! Contact Creed and Jen at Educated Wanderer to reserve your spot today!Email: travelgrouptours@aol.comPhone: 973-513-9001Website: educatedwanderer.com Follow Tales From The Gridsquare: https://www.instagram.com/tales_from_the_gridsquare w Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/join MAILING ADDRESS:STE 36188 Glocker Way,Pottstown, PA 19465WHO SAW THE MEN IN BLACKAmazon Prime: https://amzn.to/3oknNM6 Other Playing Platforms: https://geni.us/WhoSawTheMenInBlack SPONSORSGET Surfshark: surfshark.deals/confessionals GET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tony GET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionals GET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals14 Promo Code: "confessionals14" for 14 FREE MEALS!!! Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.com Get Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5 CONNECT WITH US Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: theconfessionals@theconfessionalspodcast.com Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI TikTok: @theconfessionals Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcast Tony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficial Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcas Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Merkel Media Russian folkle talks about these spirits that basically try to convince you to go walk into the bog and lead you to your death or swamps and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:00:13 and so when you stopped at the peak bog it seemed like when they caught up to him whatever was possessing him stopped I don't know it was really weird he said it was definitely an experience that left him shaken
Starting point is 00:00:23 and he just if I hear voices in the woods now I just when I started hearing stuff in the woods again he would turn around and leave This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
Starting point is 00:00:57 And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. Purses, got closer, got closer, got sparsum when he got about 15 yards away. Something pulling at my leg.
Starting point is 00:01:34 And I look over, and there are two small gray entities pulling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand. into this bush and I touch air, couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster. Yeah. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you have a crazy, wild experience, you want to share with me on the show. Go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. That's The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section.
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Starting point is 00:03:13 and we're going to be releasing that documentary very soon on youtube and if you don't want to miss it check it out the confessionals on youtube hit subscribe hit that alarm bell button so that you are always notified when we go live and here we go this is the special intro right here that we're going with we got creed and jen back here in the studio and we're going to be talking about another trip that we're going to be doing creed how you doing man i'm doing great tony thanks for being here and you know we did a trip what was it june this year it was june yeah yeah so by time people hear this it's going to be june last year so uh this is going to air the first tuesday of uh 22 but we did a we did a trip in june last year and we went to the burnbrae
Starting point is 00:03:54 mansion people loved it a lot of had a lot of fun And going into it, I was like, I just don't know if people are going to really be into this. And it sold out in what, like 24 hours or something like that? It was fast. It was fast. It was fast. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, well, I guess I was wrong. And so we went and did the trip. And because I remember when we sat down, I was like, so if people don't, you know, respond to this, is that okay? And you're like, yeah, it is what is. And I was just, I was overjoyed when so many people were interested. and I know we have people who reached out and said that they want to be on a waiting list for the next one.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Right. And so it's really exciting. And we're going to be doing another trip here. How many are we shooting for this year? Probably about 20. I think that's what we were shooting for last time. Yeah. 20 is a good number.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah. No, actually, oh, okay, I thought you were being sarcastic. I meant trips-wise. Oh, trip-wise. I was like, okay, we're doing 20. 20 trips would be great. We're going to do probably three this year, I think, for 20-22. Yeah, we'll do three.
Starting point is 00:04:51 This is the first one in April. We'll shoot for one in July and then in the fall at some point. We'll pick up another one, I think. Sounds good. Yeah. So you guys are the masterminds behind the trips. I'm not that creative, and I don't have got that kind of time. So I'm glad you guys are doing it.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And since we did Burnbrae last time, we're not doing that again this time. What's the first trip we're doing? So we're going to go up to a place called the Shanley Hotel, which has a long and storied history. It was first built in the early 19th century. It's hosted a wide variety of people. It was very elegant at one time. And then at one time it was, you know, speak easy. Bordello. It's had gangsters that have stayed there, all kinds of infamous and famous people,
Starting point is 00:05:32 and some of whom have never left. Perfect. There's like 30, I think, spirits that occasionally make their presence known. Yeah, yeah, it's a high number. And so when we were up at Burnbrae, people had some experiences, some supernatural experiences. I expect certainly this time, definitely have some as well. Yeah, and speaking of the supernatural experiences at Burnbray, Cleet, if you're listening right now, you still got to email me so we can talk about what you went through.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah. Yeah. So, I think it was a little, it was, it was, I think his was really sort of truly frightening rather than just, you know, sort of fun. I mean, I know he told you about it. And I visually saw it was rough for him, you know. And so, yeah, I understand. And he told me, you know, it's hard to talk about and stuff. But, you know, if he wants to talk, I'll talk.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's what I do. Yeah. So, we're going to be checking out that place. And it's like last time, all expenses included? Yeah, so it'll be a two-day trip. We'll meet everyone at the airport in Newark, whether they want to fly in or we'll get there on their own wheels. That's where the bus will pick us up. And we'll head up to just outside of Sleepy Hollow, New York, which we all know, right?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah, perfect. And there's a great place there. There's a legend there, a woman named Holda called Holda the Witch. and she was around in the 1700s. She was from Germany. She lived on her own. She was good at herbal remedies, which of course was the only thing available then. And so the townspeople, you know, old woman by herself with a weird accident, they thought of hers as a witch.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Sure. But she's got a headstone in the cemetery in Sleepy Hall at the old Dutch Reformed Church. So we'll take a look at the actual place where she lived. There's actually a little sort of witch's cabin there, which is interesting. keeps getting, you know, if it deteriorates, somebody's rebuilding it, whether it's Holda or, you know, local hikers. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. Nobody knows who's. Really? It's always sort of rebuilt. So, wow. That'll be an interesting thing, I think, to check out. And it's right near a place called Spook Rock. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Which, according to legend, there was a Native American warrior a few centuries ago, came across these spiritual, ghostly sort of maidens dancing on the rock. That was his encounter there. And then, so they're at. after for many centuries. It was used as a sort of council place for Native American tribes. So it should be some pretty interesting energy, I think, around there as well. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's just our, you know, sort of early part of the day. We'll have lunch in Sleepy Hollow. So we'll get a chance to check out that town. It's actually a really cool town. And then we'll head relatively close by to New Paltz. There's a street there called Historic Huguenot Street. So the Huguenots were French Protestants who left France in the age of religious warfare. And they settled here quite early. The houses all day to the 1600s. And likewise, lots of interesting spiritual activities.
Starting point is 00:08:27 So we'll get a nice little tour of all the, you know, ghostly occurrences that occur on this street. Yeah, it's, it's pretty cool. And then, then we'll head up, um, uh, to the Shanley. It's in, uh, it's in the Catskills. Uh, so we'll get a, a chance to see the Catskills. The Catsills are really, really pretty cool. Uh, but we'll get into the Shanley.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Uh, we'll be able to stay there overnight. Uh, and, uh, you know, we'll get in and do our, you know, ghost hunting and have our experiences. Should be, should be really cool. Nice. To stay in a haunted house overnight. Yeah. Just, you know, like the last time we had the, the ghost, the paranormal team come in.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Are we doing something similar to that? Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have a, they'll take us around. They'll, you know, we'll get the, you know, we'll do the EVPs. And well, look, there's one ghost cat, too, called Sweet Thing.
Starting point is 00:09:17 So. Nice. If nothing else, maybe we'll see. ghost cat but well speaking of the youtube channel we have a video of a ghost cat on our youtube channel people can check out that's fun little video so there you go but you can preview ghost cats yeah you just sleep with one overnight there we go but there's cool stuff i mean you know people have encountered you know mysterious clock chimes cold and hot spots whistling you know disembodied footsteps um piano music laughing children the smell of cookie like all kinds of you know sort of
Starting point is 00:09:46 spiritual ghostly activities that that occur there in this storied hotel yeah so there should be no doubt that uh you know there there should be some some pretty interesting encounters there for sure awesome um yeah and there's you know we get the whole whole whole hotel so it'll just be our group that's staying there um that's the best yeah like that's the best i mean like we don't have to worry about going in there like if anybody listening right now you're not going to be going in there and there's going to be guest staying there you feel a little awkward like you don't got to worry about that you just it's everybody who's there is there for the same freaking thing.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Exactly. They're all part of our group and we're all wanting to do the same thing. So we can, you know, we have the run of the place all night. Wow. So we can stay, you know, everybody can stay up as late as they want ghost hunting or, you know, whatever it is they want to do.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You know, there's, you know, some of the bedrooms, the most haunted rooms in the hotel, you know, so we can kind of accommodate. You know, if you really want that supernatural experience, we can put you in one of those rooms. Oh, okay. If you're not quite sure that's where you are, we'll put you in a room that's purported not to have much.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Well, as far as I go, I'll see how I feel that day. I might be a little too tired. Also known as scared. If you really get freaked out, there's hotels down the street. Oh, there you go. I'm sure I'll be fine. No, it'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I'm sure I'll be fine. We'll all be fun. Yeah, tough guys. So, yeah, so 200-year-old mansion that will be, you know, sort of getting to spend our time. And, you know, then the next morning, of course, if people want to talk to you about, you know, what their experiences are, you know, maybe that might find its way onto a future show at some point. Yeah. I know last time, uh, we, we wish we had more time in the morning. Yep. Do you know what the schedule will look like that morning yet?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah, we'll have a little more time there. Okay. We're not going to, you know, I think that was one of the things that we learned last time when we did this is that we do want, you know, people do want a little more time in the morning, um, not to be rushed out or, you know, to be able to share their stories and yeah, and so forth. So we're definitely going to do that as well. Yeah, we don't leave until like 11 or 1130 in the morning. Okay. And then we head over to, into the Catskills Past, which is whole state forest. Nice.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And into the historic Warwick Valley where we find ourselves at Silvio's Villa, which is an 18th century inn, home to travelers. And, you know, it's got a long storied history and, of course, haunted as well. So we'll get a little talk there about the history of the Silvio Inn and a good lunch, too. that's always good. It's Italian. Always good. So Italian, you know, lunch and, you know, mystery. It's always a good thing. That's cool. Yeah. And so just to remind people, these trips are the prices all encompassing. So, I mean, it's whatever you pay, that's for your housing. It's for your food on the trip. It's all that, you know, the bus trip, everything. Yeah. Admissions is where we're going. You know, of course, the ghost hunting team that's coming in, you know, everything is included.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So once you step on the bus with us the first morning to the time you step off the next day and the afternoon, everything's included. You don't have to reach into your pocket for anything. So it's the same price as we did before. It's $9.95 a person. That's all inclusive. So, you know, how you get to the Newark Airport, of course, is, you know, up to each person. We don't know where everyone's coming from.
Starting point is 00:13:04 If you're going to fly in, as several people did last time, we can, you know, you can make arrangements. We can help you with that. You know, I mean, Jen and I do run our tour company. This is one of, you know, these tours that we do with Tony. or some of the many that we do over the years each year. So we're perfectly capable of helping you get to, you know, the pickup point at the Newark Airport. Yeah. So that's, you know, it's easy enough for us to do.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You just reach out to us and tell us what you need. We'll help you do it. Perfect. Yeah. And that's the thing that I'm so confident with because you guys do this. I mean, if I was, if I was just saying, hey, let's do this. I got this idea. Let's just go figure it out.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It would be a mess. It would be a mess. So I'm just glad that I got people that are, you know, this is what you guys do. and I'm really excited about round two here. And, you know, if there's a good turnout, we'll do a third one, fourth one. We'll just keep going. Keep going. There's no shortage of places we can go check out and stuff in this country.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's just an endless amount of places. In fact, what we're thinking about for July is a place up in Vermont called Wilson Castle. Freaking love it. Which is also very, very haunted. It's a real castle, right? It's a real castle. Yeah, it's a real castle. It's got real castle history, you know, as much as you can in a country that's a few hundred years old rather than many centuries.
Starting point is 00:14:11 but it's awesome and it's really cool we have to do it in summer because it's not heated in the winter that's right we were talking about doing it late this year right we're going to think we thought about like oh we'll do it like November or early December we called them up they're like well we don't have any heat so we thought that might be able to Chile yeah Vermont and you know January everybody's bringing their like space heaters on the planes I was really surprised last time I mean we had people from all over the country Idaho California people signing up yeah coming in it was just like Tennessee, Colorado. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:42 You know, it was Rhode Island. Way to guy from Philly come, which was right in the back. He's like, that's easy. Yeah, we left from Philly last time. So that was really easy. But yeah, we've had people from all over. So it was great. And we think everyone really, that went really had a great time.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. You know, we got really positive feedback and so forth. So, you know, we always recommend, you know, with a trip like this, travel insurance, because, you know, you always think it's not going to happen to you. But the fact is, you know, with all the trips that Jen and I run, it happens to someone on every single trip. So, you know, that's an important aspect. But, you know, give us a call.
Starting point is 00:15:13 We'll talk about all this. And you cover all that stuff as far as, like, helping them get all that. So, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And that's the thing that people have to understand is that from beginning to end, you guys are there to guide it. I mean, I'm in the middle of making some life changes and I'm working with people. And they're just helping me walk through it and stuff to every process of what we're doing here. So, you know, it's the same thing with this.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I mean, you call. And from that moment on, you guys are just helping the whole process. along so yeah from you know organizing just you know getting on to be to come on the trip to anything you need to get there or you know we have people come in a day early we have people you know stay a day after you know it depends on flight schedules and so forth but uh you know however much you know you want to stay or if you want to just get in and out we can do that um so yeah whatever you know logistical help you need and uh insurance you know whatever um you know we're good with all that yeah so uh if people want to come how do they come how do they come
Starting point is 00:16:10 contact you guys. Excellent question. Yeah. So you can just give us a ring. Our telephone number is 973-513-9-0-001. You can email us at Travel Group Tours at AOL.com. Yes, we still use an A-O-L-F email address. It's kind of horrifying, but it's stuck.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So you can either give us a call, shoot us an email, and we'll get in touch with you and get you all squared away. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good. So if you're interested, go ahead and get a hold of them. and the information, the phone number, the email will be in the description of this episode.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And I'm sure Lindsay will do a write-up on the website for the blog, too, over time here. You said this was in April, right? April, yeah. Okay. So it's, and you can also check out our website, too, for all the details there. Awesome. Which is educatedwanderer.com. That's, um, gets you there.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And you'll see everything we do there, but you can specifically zero in on this trip. That's just, you know, the trip title that you look for is the confessional's, on tour. The spirits are in. That's what's the name of the tour. That's cool. In, I and N. In.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Did you come with that, Jen? Oh, really? The spirits are in. Perfect. Perfect. And the dates of the tour specifically are April 8th to the 9th. Okay. So that's helpful to know.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Awesome. Sounds good. Go ahead, guys, and contact them. And if you have any questions, I would direct them towards them. So just get them directly because more than likely, if it didn't cover it on this, little conversation I probably don't know. So let's reach out to Creight and Jen and they'll take care of you.
Starting point is 00:17:45 So go ahead. I was just saying, we'll email you the full write-up of all the details, so you'll know exactly what you're in for. Perfect. You know, at least physically. I can't talk about spiritually, but yeah. We'll do our best to get that for you to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. You know, enter at your own risk kind of thing. Exactly. All right. So today we got Nick coming on the show today. And he started an Instagram account about a year ago. And during that time,
Starting point is 00:18:08 he started recording military encounters with the paranormal cryptozoology and everything in between. And he comes on today for an overtime show. So this is a public show. And then we have a whole other hour segment for members only on the website. But he's going to be sharing all these different military stories that he's gathered over the year or so, where these military men are coming forward and sharing what they experienced in the field. And more importantly, in this country on military bases, a lot of weird things happening. and he talks about it all today. So let's get to Nick right now.
Starting point is 00:18:54 All right. Today we got Nick on the show. Nick, what's going on, brother? How's going, Tony? Thanks for having me on today. Thanks. I've been listening to the confessionals for a while now, and now I'm finally on the show. Man, I'm glad you're here. You contacted me a few months ago, and we've been trying to work this out and stuff. You were on my buddy's podcast, Asquatch Chronicles, sharing some of these stories, and you have a ton of stories, and you wanted to share more on this show. and I was like, sounds good to me, bro. So you run an Instagram account called Tales from the Grid Square.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Let people know about the Instagram account, how it came about, and what do you do with it? Yeah, so I'll just start off by saying. So, yeah, I am still in the military. I'm not going to give too many details, but I got to put this disclaimer out. So anything I say on this show is not reflective of the U.S. military. Sorry, guys. I'm also just a boring logistics guy. I'm not a cool special forces dude.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So if you want to know where all the hidden secrets are in the United States, I'm the wrong guy to talk. Well, I won't give the answers, but we can talk all day about it. That's what they all say, though. So now you just put a target on your back, and I'm going to be grilling you now because you just put a target on your back. I know you're lying. They know you're lying.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Enjoy the ride, Nick. Enjoy the ride. Thank you, Tony. But, yeah, I know. So I've always had an interest in paranormal kind of stuff, cryptids, ghosts, everything like that. I had some experiences that we'll probably talk about later. But like all good things, it kind of started as a drunken idea.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I was drinking one night, and I had kind of like some experiences in the military. And I went to JRTC previously, which for those I don't know, JRTC is the Joint Readiness Training Center in Fort Polk, Louisiana. And I kind of had like some weird experiences there. And just talking to other people who had been there and hearing their weird experiences. kind of in one night after a couple of beers, I had this great idea, like, why don't when I start this Instagram page? And I kind of came out about from there was in the, there's military meme pages, I guess the best way to describe them, like of every niche.
Starting point is 00:21:02 You know, if you, there's medics, there's, there's a medics meme page. If there's, you know, tankers, tankers mean page. But two of these pages got a deal like way back when COVID started when people basically in lockdown, they were going to do like ghost stories. and I thought I was surprised about how many, they would post them on their story. And so, like, they weren't, it wasn't like how I have it on the page now, but, like, they're the ones that started it.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And I was surprised about how many people were coming forward with these stories. And everything from, like, ghosts to creatures to stuff in combat, stuff in the barracks. Like, I was like, huh, that's really fascinating stuff. So fast forward by a year and a half later, you know, I finally get the idea. Like, there's really, they did it like as an event during COVID.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I was like, there's really no page. that collects all these. So why don't I make something like that? And I was just thinking because for the most part, like in the regular world, yeah, you don't want people to think you're weird or crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:21:58 But like in the military, like, you know, if I hear voices behind me, I turn around, there's no one there. Do I really want to say something? Because people may think like,
Starting point is 00:22:06 mentally I'm not there. And that's not to say that there's anything wrong with that. But, you know, there's an extra added layer, I think, in the military, in all militaries,
Starting point is 00:22:16 about like kind of talking about the weird and I guess the woo if you want to say it. You know, because you don't want people think you're crazy. Because people think you're crazy, they're just not going to trust you. So I was like, well, let me, what have I created a page where people could dammy their stories? I'd repost him anonymously, kind of like cut out all like any identifiable information except for what they want. So I try to leave it like maybe very vague like unit. So like a brigade, which is huge to like just a. the time frame being like a year, right?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Unless they want it that way. They want like more detail. Some people just want themselves like credited. That's fine. But that way it's like, hey, I believe your stories. Like I want to hear your stories and we'll keep it like anonymous. And so maybe people will come and comment and say like, hey, I saw the same thing. You're not going to be alone.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So I started it and then I started getting like people coming in. Yeah. Like people are coming forward with like some very. crazy stories and not just like oh i saw something in the barracks like you know oh i saw bigfoot in the training ceremony center i saw a ghost woman standing on the bridge out at you know camp schwab and okanawa like very a lot of people coming forward and so the page really took off and it really took off thanks to saskatch chronicles too going on there i was able to get a ton of more veterans on there and i'm always trying to get more followers to the page doesn't really benefit me but what it does benefit
Starting point is 00:23:44 it is the more people I can find, the more people I can, like, troll through for stories. And, you know, hey, have you ever seen a UFO? And sometimes I'll get, like, 10 stories that same day about people I've seen, like, UFOs. And it's just trying to connect that bridge between, like, hey, I'm in the service, you're in the service. Like, we have that shared, we have that shared experience. Like, tell me what you want to tell others, but you feel like you can't.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah, that's, I mean, I know from five years. years of podcasting doing this stuff, it's hard to get military guys to talk. And so to have a guy that's in the military asking for the stories, I'm sure helps a lot. You know, because like when when Charlie was on my show for episode 122, he he still says things to me that go way over my head. I'm like, bro, I don't know what you're talking about. And he has to break down like the terminology and things because whenever we're talking to stuff, he's like he says things I just don't get. And so But there's an automatic gap in the way you can communicate with one another where it's not the case when you're in the military. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Now, I'll put the one caveat to that to those stories. I tell people, like, if you're going to violate OPSEC or some type of NDA that you have signed, do not tell me the story. Like, the best thing we need is for you to talk about stuff you're not supposed to. And I'm not trying to post government secrets on an open source intelligence. website. So that is that is the one thing. Most of these stories are, you know, from people regular Joe's. I don't get many
Starting point is 00:25:21 like I said, I don't got a lot of cool guys in here, but I got just the regular conventional guys like me telling these stories. You got to start living on the edge, brother. You got to start living on the edge. You're planning it too safe. Not quite yet, Tony. Not quite yet. I got you. Listen, if you keep this page going and stuff and if you ever get out of the military, whenever that day comes and stuff,
Starting point is 00:25:42 man, you could have a fun, fun time in the next chapter of that page's existence. Yeah, there's definitely, there's definitely days I, like, come across things and I'm like, hmm, or people tell me things and I'm just like, I really want to dig into this more or like, you know, sometimes I will share stuff, but I will significantly cut down details on purpose to like make it very vague. Yeah, you got to protect yourself on that stuff. I get it. I totally get it.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So, all right. Let's start talking about some of these stories and stuff. So just to let the audience know what we're getting into, you know, I did a giant of Candahar Horror story with Elie Marzuli back when I first started. I think it was like episode 18. I was like shell shocked when I reached out to him and like within an hour or two, he reached back to me. And he's like, sure, I'll come on.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I'm like, but I'm a new podcast. I'm not going to tell him a new podcast. I'm just going to go, you know? I was stunned. So I was like shell shocked when I had to talk to the guy. But he did hit on the Candahar Giant. and he actually is in the intro. So a lot of times people over the years have asked me about the Kandahar Giant stories and stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And I'm like, well, you got to go all the way back to episode 18. Sorry in advance for the audio quality. And so, but we're going to do that. And we got some paranormal stuff, some Russian military, some Iraqi stuff. The Afghan Skinwalker. I'm very interested in hearing about that. And even down to like Colts, like an occultic kind of story coming out of Iraq. So we're going to be kind of jumping all.
Starting point is 00:27:10 over the place of stories that you've collected. And you have a, we talked about this before. You have a great order of things as of right now as far as what we're going to get into here. And so we're going to keep it in the order you have it. I want to let everybody know right now, this is going to be an overtime show and a member show week with Nick here. So this is the first hour. The second hour is going to be an overtime right after this. You can listen to the overtime segment with more of Nick's personal stories that he has had. And then later in the week, we're going to have him back for a members episode where we're going to go into more stories from his page. He's got that many friends. So it's definitely an Instagram page to check out if you haven't
Starting point is 00:27:49 done so already. Tales from the Grid Square. Nick, I handed over to you, my friend. Let's start off with the Kanda Hard Giant. Sweet. All right, Tony. So this is probably my favorite story from the page just because it is the only story I've ever gotten that's even close to the story of the giant of Kandahar. And I fully believe this individual, this individual fully believes what he saw. So I'll start off just to phrase it. So before I start the story, it is actually in the Koonar province of Afghanistan. So it's not exactly in Kandahar, but it's in a similar kind of area. So start this story. All right. I was deployed as an infantry team leader with the army in the Koonar province of Afghanistan from 2008 to 2009. One night we set up on an observation patrol to overlook a village that
Starting point is 00:28:33 was suspected IADs were coming out of due to a successful IED recovery, we had done a few weeks prior. My LT gave me a new thermal imaging system called the recon three that none of us were familiar with and told me how, told me to figure it out so I can pass along the information to the other team leaders. That's a classic, classic Army statement. Yeah, we don't know how to use this figure out. I started messing with the recon three to see its capabilities and was surprised at the clarity of the zoom on it. I spent most of my time messing with different functionalities and watching the village. I started to look across the valley to see what I could see, and they let me look along the spur we set in on it and saw a very large heat signature
Starting point is 00:29:09 at the top of one of these false peaks. I did everything I could to get as clear as clear as an image as I could, suspecting was a group of Taliban huddled together around the light, as they tended to do in the mountains. All of a sudden, this heat signature stood up as one being. The trees in that area grew up to 10 to 12 feet tall, and this thing was at least as tall, if not taller, than the trees that surrounded it. It started taking steps, parallel to my position and it was covering ground quickly with ease. Its stride was slow and relaxed, yet it moves with incredible speed. That led me to believe that whatever I was seeing, this creature or not, was gigantic. It very quickly traversed the landscape and I lost sight of it along a neighbor and spur.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I did not believe what I saw initially, assuming that I had imagined it. I had never seen anything like it in my life, and I didn't really tell people about it while I was in, even when I got out. I kept that story to myself, thinking that there was no way I saw what I saw. But then in 2010, I listened to a story on coast to coast, specifically, the story about the giant of Kandahar. And that made me made all the memories of my time and service come flooding back and made me consider other things I saw during that deployment. For instance, the creature was described as having fire orange hair and reminded me of a tradition the locals in the area would do.
Starting point is 00:30:16 They would dye their hair bright orange color and even dye some of the goats the same color. They never gave an explanation why they would do this, and it seemed like they would do this every once in a while, and then all of a sudden those dyed goats would be gone and the locals hair would no longer be dyed orange. I assume that it was maybe a cultural thing I didn't understand, but now it makes me wonder if that was some kind of gesture to the creature, Nephilim, or the goats were sacrificed to it. I am a Christian in the Bible briefly discussed the men of renown, aka the Nephlam. I think that's what I saw. A member of an ancient race
Starting point is 00:30:45 of giants descended from fallen angels, or it could be something like a Sasquatch. I'm not sure. That's really interesting. The way you were describing that story to begin with, I thought I had heard this one already from the actual person, but it's a totally different story. So it really, this is something that military guys over there have seen. Like I said, I've talked to somebody, it's never been on the show, but I've talked to somebody who was looking through night vision down into a valley. I guess they were observing a town or something. And they, and they saw some kind of giant running out of the town. And he covered thousands of feet within like a matter of a minute, just shot right up into the mountains.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And so I thought you were kind of going with that story. I was like, oh, crap, I know exactly who this is. And it wasn't him, though. So that's really interesting. So what do you make of the whole giant, the giant stories coming out of the Middle East? I mean, before you started doing this stuff, is that something that you kind of were interested in?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah. So actually, believe it or not, and I wish I could find the book. When I was a kid, I had this, like, this old, bound book, I think it might have been for when my dad was a kid, but it was like great mysteries of the world or something like that. Unsolved mysteries of the world. And there was a whole chapter in it about giants. And talking about how my brother and I were fascinated
Starting point is 00:32:10 with this. And this was like kind of like to a little hobby of ours looking into it. But basically the whole story, people, the native tribes tell stories of fighting giants that eight people and they wiped them out. And when the settlers came in and they started moving into the native lands they started finding giant skeletons and like hey like there's these massive seven nine feet tall skeletons in north america and then the smithsonian comes and kind of collects them all and then they kind of disappear from public eye and so the story you know and i'm finding out looking into that that's kind of like that was more information on that i don't know i think maybe shoot i could believe it maybe different a subset of humans i don't know like maybe in afghanistan people
Starting point is 00:32:54 have told me, I've never been deployed to Afghanistan, but I've talked to people who have, and I've talked to people that have lived there. And they've told me that there's, there's places that even Afghans have not even gone to yet. Mountains, like, so deep and valleys so hidden away that, like, you could put a whole village in there and you would never know. In fact, a good example of that is another Sasquash Chronicles episode previous to mine. A gentleman goes on the show and he talks about going to a village in Afghanistan that is so detached from the rest of the world that, you know, they, they thought the ocean was a myth. They thought it was made up.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Like, a joke. That's amazing. Or that when a plane flies overhead, they call it an X because they don't know what it is. So I don't know. I think it could be possible, especially like someplace like Afghanistan, to have something just hidden out there. Yeah. You know, I have some people that I've obviously been in connection with over the years that
Starting point is 00:33:50 have been in Afghanistan or were deployed in Afghanistan. and I've been told that there's a section of Afghanistan that does connect to China. It's like a 30-mile section of border. National Park, right? Yeah. And I've been told that he was told by locals that there are giants up there, and that's why nobody goes up in there. And it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:14 It's interesting. And, you know, it just makes you wonder what's going on and why, like you mentioned about the Western world kind of thing. it makes you wonder what what the differences are between cultures that makes a government want to cover up such information if they were. I know you can't go too deep on things here, but I will. So, no, I was talking to dark waters, and I can't remember this was the public segment or the overtime, but he talked about a giant in the swamps of Louisiana. And the swamps of Louisiana, when the storm came through,
Starting point is 00:34:55 cleared out a section where people for the first time could go back on boats. And it was a whole new fishing game area. And there was this report that came out that there was like some giant being as tall as trees watching from the shoreline. And so there's definite rumors, and that's just one story. there's definite stories coming out of United States of America of people seeing giants
Starting point is 00:35:21 not Bigfoot giants and it just it makes you wonder like how do they hot like like you want to if you're curious about how bigfoot hides like how do you how does a 20 foot tall giant humanoid hide like how is that how is that even possible
Starting point is 00:35:38 you know and so but then then again when you start getting like so so many, I'm fairly convinced that most of the people that listen to my show, West's show, Dark Water Show, that they, most of the people, I'm not saying everybody, but most people I believe don't really live in areas that are super vastly rural. And you don't, you just can't comprehend how vast some of these spaces are. I couldn't comprehend how large the Daniel Boone National Forest was until I went there.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And I was stunned that when I saw a sign on the highway saying, welcome to the Daniel Boone National Forest, I looked at how long I had to drive. And it was like an hour still to get to the point of where I was going into Daniel Boon. And I was just like, you've got to be kidding me. And so in those kind of moments, it makes you really realize that, you know, it's, there's a lot of space out here still. So who knows what could be hiding. Yeah, I definitely think somebody, I read somewhere, how many times have you, like Black Bear is one of those common animals in North America.
Starting point is 00:36:51 How many times have you seen a dead black bear on the side of the road or a dead black bear in the middle of the woods? You know, things that know what humans are and know how to hide, like will never be found by us, especially if you go in the woods trying to find them and not hunt them, I think. I think that's, you'll never find you. these things. Yeah, I agree. Well, I'm going to be hunting them. So it is what it is. I'm not kidding. You can count me in on that whenever I get back to the actual mainland. I hear you. I hear you. So
Starting point is 00:37:26 let's move on to the next one, man. Okay. So this next story here is in Iraq and it covers an individual who was an Abrams crew member in two deployments, one in 2003 and one to 2006. Okay. So the first one is Samara Iraq 2003. I had participated with the invasion of Iraq back in 2003 as an Abrams crew member in the U.S. Army. We marched all the way north to Missoull and then turn around ahead of back to Samara, where we finally set up a permanent fob. Near Samara, there are these incredibly ancient ruins, the spiral minaret and the golden mosque, later destroyed by ISIS. These ruins were the best, though. They were always, even though I was never able to actually walk through them and check it out, we patrolled nearby to make sure everything was quiet.
Starting point is 00:38:10 and it was just really cool to look at. One time, filling in to the gunner's position, we were scanning the ruins at night to look for any obvious hot spots of insurgents. Some of the stones in these ruins still retain residual heat from the hot sun, and they would produce like a glow on our RIR, so we had to be careful.
Starting point is 00:38:25 This only happened a few times, but it was reported by several tank crews, as well as our scouts with their LSR trucks. Oh, I'm sorry, LRS trucks. But sometimes, when scanning the ruins, there are these cold spots that would move through the ruins, and in between the burial sites and the nearby mausoleum.
Starting point is 00:38:41 These would show up clear day on our powerful main gun sites, but there were no bodies, objects, or anything like that. Just these incredibly cold spots in the air moving around slowly through the ruins, moving in front behind stones, and it was the weirdest thing I ever saw on that deployment. And we still never really got an answer of what was going on. Now, you got to think about that, too.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Like, on an Abrams tank, like, those thermal sites are super powerful. So, like, I mean, this is so powerful. looks like, I think it's top secret, like, some of the capabilities to, you know, but like, if they're picking off something on those thermals, there's definitely something there. Okay. All right. So the second story is the same individual.
Starting point is 00:39:21 He's in Taji, Iraq, 2006. So I was a tank commander in an M1A2 at SEP main battle tank. So that's kind of a newer model tank. And my platoon and I, four Abrams, were spread out along 1,000 meters on MSR, Tampa to keep an eye on convoys. It's probably about three in the morning and I have the entire crew
Starting point is 00:39:39 getting some sleep while I stay up monitoring the thermals and the cameras. Well, doing a routine scan, I see a light in the sky that's brighter than anything else I can see that night. It pops up on the CITV, and I see it with my own eyes. I have the tank running on battery power, so there's no noise from the turbine, and the CITV doesn't require hydraulic, so it's also silent. Whatever this thing was, it made no noise, hovered in place probably 300 to 400 meters out, and moved around just a bit, and it took off super fast. I never really felt threatened by it, just super curious. This was 2006, so personal drones weren't really a thing in small Iraqi villages.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And the only drones we had at the time were incredibly loud and couldn't really hover in place. I talked to Michael Tune about it. No one else saw anything. I talked to up to being a lack of sleep, stress, and dehydration. They could be right, but it certainly seemed real to me, whatever the hell it was. So, I mean, did he come short of saying it was a UFO? He did, but he's like, I don't know what I saw. But another story that I was able to get from people in the same time, people saw the black triangles in Iraq, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And I know that's black triangles are a common thing. And I know, I think there's a, I haven't seen it yet, the JJ Abrams documentary, a UFO, but they talk about like the, you know, the airship to orbit program. I don't know if you're familiar with that. Not really, no. So it's basically like the gist of it is the government may have allegedly created these like supersonic airships. Basically like they're like they look like a giant wedge shape like the triangle. And they kick on engines and they can go supersonic speeds and they kick them off and they can float silently because they're an airship. And apparently these things were according to the documentary, they've been operating for a while.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And so I've always wondered like maybe we had those things out there in Iraq. I don't know. I don't know what an airship that can go supersonic speeds and into space would be of use to the military, but I can only guess. Okay, let's talk about a sponsor for today's show, a new sponsor. Friends, we talk about security on this show. We talk about home security, food security, survival security. And now we're talking about online security with Surf Shark VPN. They keep your online identity safe by encrypting all the information set between your device and the internet. This keeps your personal data protection. from big companies or cybercriminals. Surfshark has 3,200 servers in 65 countries. You can access and unblocked content libraries and streaming services from other countries like all of the Netflix libraries. And here's the most important part, friends. This is the thing that I love and I know you guys love too because most of the people that listen to this show are kind of in the similar thought process as me.
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Starting point is 00:43:49 It's probably buried, but you got to look for it. But there's like these pyramid-shaped UFOs popping up in D.C. over the Pentagon. Yeah. I've seen that. And what was interesting about that was it was caught on video by several different people. Like there's a group of guys in a car driving by the. the Pentagon and they recorded it. There was another guy in Arlington Cemetery who I had on the show who recorded it.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Like this was something that actually happened, caught on video. And it makes, like at the time I was thinking, you know, either this is 100% real and something's going on and nobody's even talking about this or it would be a hologram, which is another thing that I started thinking about because there's also video. And I don't know why they did this, but there was a video that came out not too long ago of a O.C. It was a hologram of her crying. There's a famous picture of her crying at the border wall from years ago. And they took the picture of her crying and made it a hologram above the Capitol building. And that was caught on video too. And I don't know why they did that.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I mean, but it's certain to show that there's the capability that they have to do such things. And so I don't know if the pyramid that I had featured was real or if it was a hologram. I don't know. But when it comes to it popping up all over the world, then it makes you really wonder, it seems like these things are probably pretty real. Yeah. No, I've definitely been paying attention to the UFO items recently. And I think maybe people are more open to it or maybe they're just seeing more. But it's definitely interesting, especially with the U.S. Navy coming out and saying like,
Starting point is 00:45:29 Yeah, there's, well, now it's unknown aerial phenomena in the sky, and we don't know what they are. Oh, also known as UFO. Yeah. You guys need to stop making up new names for stuff we've been calling for years. I mean, what is wrong? It's the military. We love new acronyms. What the heck?
Starting point is 00:45:47 I find it super fascinating, yeah, because, like, even here in Hawaii about a year ago, there was, like, a big UFO sighting on the Western side. And it was after New Year's. And so if you know, it's never been to Hawaii in New Year's, uh, fireworks are illegal and like the whole sky is lit up with fireworks. Like literally, like, I don't think if you're an aircraft, you want to fly anywhere in Europe because there's that many. But after the fireworks had stopped, people reported seeing this like big blue orb of light in the sky moving around.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Um, and, you know, it's just finding funny because after like, now there's this uptick in sightings I would see and like, you know, back people, all over the world, people seeing stuff. I always wonder, like, maybe are we just paying more. tension or is it like increasing? I find this stuff super fascinating. Yeah, it's hard, to gauge which one of that it is. But the ones that are popping up out of seeing stuff, I think, really start pushing to the idea of them coming from underneath the water. I mean, I've talked about it before on the show. I have pictures of one coming out of the water. It was going super fast. The guy got it on video. And so I have three still pictures of it shooting from the water into the
Starting point is 00:46:55 sky and it's something shot out of the water and so it just you know and then when you have what 95% of the earth's water is unexplored I mean it's a lot of space to to to hide whatever you want in there if you have the ability to so and then there's also you have to just also I know it's like the not popular theory but technology in itself is something really incredible and how fast it moves I mean I think China just tested like some hypersonic missile uh I think last yesterday or something like that. But like the amount of tech, the level of technology that we see now, besides what's going on behind the scenes, I'm sure is like a 90 day difference. Sorry, people, I don't know what you're talking about. I still have vehicles from like built in the 70s. So, you know, I haven't seen anything,
Starting point is 00:47:39 but I could imagine that technology behind the scenes is much more advanced that we have now. And I think, I think I even saw like patents from all sorts of militaries to do like drones that can go in and out of the water at random. So I was wondering, like, what's scarier? There's UFOs out there. We have technology that is so advanced. It makes, you know, the F-22 look like a toy plane. Yeah. I mean, if that's the case, then I just want to make sure we have that technology. Yeah. You know, but yeah, I, you know, I talk to a guy, and when I'm done talking here, we'll get back to the stories. But I just, I want to say this that years ago I was doing delivery. And I talked to a guy who used to be an engineer in the military back in the 60s. And he told me this was probably
Starting point is 00:48:30 four, three, four years ago. He told me the technology we have today, they had back in the 60s that they were, they were working on developing it back then. And so he just told me, he's like, man, the government has far beyond the technology that we can even imagine right now. And, and so it was kind of interesting to hear from somebody who was an engineer in the military designing, like the night vision that we have today accessible to civilians. He's like, we had that way back then. Like, that's just the way it works. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. It's, it's interesting when you started thinking about it. Yeah. All right. Before I get you in trouble, though, let's move on to another story. Okay. So this next story is the next two are going to be from Vietnam. So I got this story a while back,
Starting point is 00:49:16 And I liked it because it reads like something out of apocalypse now. So this individual, his father was in Vietnam, and this is the story that his dad has recounted to him. So it goes like this. So my father was in Vietnam and saw some crazy shit. One base he was on, which he won't tell me the names. It's no longer there. He doesn't want me to try and look it up and accidentally end up on a watch list was a sweet assignment. My dad had to work in an office, fixed copiers, printers, or whatever random nonsense equipment and admin paper that they
Starting point is 00:49:46 hi there. He said he got picked to be sent there and it was like an easy assignment for him, so he didn't complain. It's a small base with about 100 other guys. All sorts of people that, again, were picked out to be stationed there. They used to come up with stories and jokes about why they were sent there, but it was cool at first and they would party and have fun, typical old school army shenanigans. My dad worked on a crew with about 12 to 15 other guys. And what they had to do was they had to sort through paperwork. Now, none of the papers made any sense. The only way they could sort through them was by a number at the top. Some of the things on there were like the types of a certain flower. And some didn't make any sense at all. Like they were just word vomit. They would get boxes and boxes of these paper to sort through every day through a big truck. They didn't have a quota or really anyone telling them what to do. So they usually work just the standard six to eight hours. They would call it quits for the night. And around two months in, they would start to experience things that would become a regular phenomena. My dad said that he would wake up in the morning and everything in his room would be shaking. Like he was in a middle of an earthquake. When he went outside, everyone was looking around. My dad asked a few guys
Starting point is 00:50:48 what they were looking for, and one of the guys said that they saw something big flyer of the base. My dad thought maybe it was a bomber or something, so he brushed them off. After that, they had regular earthquakes to the point that they couldn't react anymore, and then they wouldn't react anymore. At night, they started to see lights and colors flash outside their windows, and they would hear noises as if they were outside alone night or day. A few guys got spooked and would eventually request to be reassigned. One by one, the guys would be. usually chill and lead back would start to snap and become panic shells of themselves, just overall paranoid and just high strung.
Starting point is 00:51:21 One night my dad was outside when he hears what sounds like running, like someone fool sprinting, but like all around him, like things, like people just running all around him. Like it was everywhere he looked, but it was just missing just by that split second what he was seeing like going around a corner. He tossed a cigarette away and began to walk. He started to hear what sounded like a squeaking noise behind him and began to fill him with a pure dread. more than anything he has felt in his life, like he knew he was about to die.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Luckily, he tossed a cigarette. When he tossed the cigarette, it was caught into a patch of dried grass, and it caught it on fire. He snapped out of it once you saw the fire spreading and ran to grab a fire extinguisher. But when he came back, it was daylight, and people were out looking for him.
Starting point is 00:52:01 He had been missing for four hours, but it felt like minutes to my dad. Not long after another guy went crazy instead of building on fire. Big trucks showed up, and my dad and the others left that base. when my dad was a bit of a shithead in the army and decided that he would go AWOL
Starting point is 00:52:16 and a few others with a few others and they would try to find that base again. But when he said he reached the area, the entire place was an overgrown field like nothing had ever been there. My dad couldn't explain it, but he remembered everything clearly. In the following years,
Starting point is 00:52:31 everyone who he spoke to couldn't tell him anything about that base. Just my dad and a handful of others that were with him could remember. That's trippy. That is trippy. like just like what it goes like it's yeah i don't know the individual who was here thinks that either his dad is he doesn't believe his dad was making it up he thinks his dad is being 100% true
Starting point is 00:52:56 he thinks that his dad was involved in some type of like i don't know of wandering soul if you ever heard of that no i don't think so what is that so it was a kind of a vague operation of vietnam done by the psychological warfare basically basically. And it was to, they did some stuff to basically make to you, wage psychological warfare against, um, you know, the, the, the Viet Cong and the NBA. And yeah, there's kind of vague details on how they did that. And so the idea is that maybe, you know, there's no results to it too. This is all from I read on a Wikipedia article. But there's people that think that they were doing other stuff like experimenting on other people and, you know, I mean, like trying to maybe like introducing LSD or something. something into like water just to see like how people will react to see how they could use that. I don't know. Not or he thinks his dad was like on a base and we're getting messed with by like aliens and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Well, it's weird that he, when he got back to where the base was at one point, it was just a field. I mean, he didn't mention that his dad saw, you know, tire marks or, you know, spots where you can see where a building was at one time. It was a field. Yeah, maybe it makes me think that maybe it was just all in. his head. Or, if you want to get trippy with it, that his dad didn't know what he was involved in with the military, but whatever they were doing was accessing, maybe they had access to a parallel
Starting point is 00:54:28 dimension that they were putting the soldiers into, not that his dad accessed it, but they was put into it. I'm just saying, like, listen, Nick, I'm just saying, I can't get you in trouble, but I'm just saying like there's a lot of weird things that come out over the years, you know, like the idea of the Philadelphia experiment, you know, and so my uncle was in studio and he said that the Philadelphia, and he was in the Navy for 20-some years, the Philadelphia experiment, absolutely 100% real, but what Hollywood has made it is not real. And so, you know, I don't know. I'm just saying it seems like if his dad's telling the truth that his dad, how do you explain it? How do you explain it? I could just see it now. Hey, private, I need you to do. You're going to go into this parallel
Starting point is 00:55:21 dimension. Don't touch the fabric of reality because it can unravel everything. Listen, if I could have time talking to his dad, I would ask engaging questions as to how he got to where he went, tell me where you were and then where you got to and a step by step process of there. And you start pulling at the threads to see if there's anything that, you know, as people say things that you're like, you question on it and then gets them thinking like, yeah, you know what? That was a little weird, you know? And you start trying to figure it out. But if that thing was never there when he went back, it looked like it just was never there. Then either he and the rest of the guys just were tripping on LSD and they all had the same memories or something
Starting point is 00:56:09 really bananas bizarre went on and we're not supposed to believe in those kind of things. Yeah, I don't know. I can also believe the U.S. Army just, you know, oh, we found a tear in the fabric of society. We're going to put a base here. Right. Oh, where's the base go? If there is a pace of inhospitable land or, you know, oh, yeah, this land is haunted, but cheap.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Oh, yeah, we're putting a base there. And then all the weird stuff starts happening. Yep. You know, hey, that's very likely,
Starting point is 00:56:42 right? That's a very real possibility. I mean, just look where all the army bases are in the middle of nowhere, you know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Got it for a premium. I'm still, well, I'll say it. I'm still looking for a, uh, a certain type of base that I think exists that is not on any maps. And within my,
Starting point is 00:57:03 state. And so I'm still coming for it, Nick. You're not going to stop me. So. All right, Tony. I just, I don't know. Maybe, maybe the entrance is your garage. Listen, with that, if it gets you in trouble, maybe, maybe, maybe. I don't know. Maybe. But that stuff is any, anything, if that stuff did exist, Tony, that would be entirely way over my pay grade and way over. Right. Like I said, I'm just a, I'm just a ditch digger. I'm not trying to get you in trouble, though. But if you can answer this, what are your thoughts on the deep underground military bases? So, like, I'm sure just strategically there are probably something like that.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And this is just my opinion. This is just me, you know, as just like normal guys saying this, I'm sure that there are some bases that they have like that, just because it makes sense, like with the Cold War and the threat of nuclear war and stuff like that. Now, do I think that, like now with modern. media coverage that the ones that are established, like Shia Mountain and like some of the other ones that get on put on paper, maybe there's probably more, but they are probably like very, very hush-hush. And I think those are more like along, I think they're more really for the
Starting point is 00:58:21 continuity of government, you know. And I'm sure now with modern technology, you can dig stuff and, you know, there's the entrance is the McDonald's bathroom and no one I never know the wiser. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure for security reasons, there are stuff like that. Now, massive places that are so big that they're the size of small cities, just, you know, I'm a logistics guy, so I just look at it like, you know, people eat a lot. People waste a lot. People make a lot of trash.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Like, all this stuff has to come from somewhere to some place. So, I mean, there would be mountains of trash or, like, lines of pickup trucks and semi-trucks. That would be a thing. You wouldn't need, I mean, as a truck, as a trucker, like, the U.S. military and the U.S. government uses civilian contractors to move around. That's just part of our logistics system. So, like, if there was a super secret hidden base in the mountain, you would just need to follow the trucks.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I don't think you could keep that hidden. Now, I'm sure there's some, if we want to get to more woo, like, maybe there's other shit they use. But if I use it, just look at that from purely, like, hidden in plain sight, they need a few, they need fuel, they need, they need beans bullets, and like water. Like those are like, they need food, all the stuff to run and they need water, especially water. All that stuff has to come from somewhere. So, all right, here's my thoughts back to you. You're wrong.
Starting point is 00:59:48 No, I was kidding. But, so in Pennsylvania, we do have a deep underground military. It's called Raven Rock. It's on the maps. You can find it, all that stuff. And there's a lot of people that suggest that it is connected underground to Camp David. And that's not too hard to imagine because Raven Rock and Camp David are extremely close. I think within like five miles.
Starting point is 01:00:13 So if that's true, which I don't see any reason why it couldn't be true, then we have an example of an underground military base that is known to the public. connecting to another military base. So if they wanted to, not like they don't have, they're not short on funds, they have no problem printing money, they could do maybe a deep underground military base where it's secret and the only way to access it is through Raven Rock or one of the known places. I've talked to truck drivers who have gone into Raven Rock and they have one delivery. Like it's just like, because when you go in these places, you can only have what is there for that place. You can't just have a bunch of general freight on there.
Starting point is 01:01:00 So like just to say it's one pallet. And I've talked to one guy who was picking up one pallet. But let's just say it's one truckload. He's there all day long. And so say a trash truck goes into Raven Rock and is gone for eight hours. It wouldn't be unusual. There's truckers that go in there and they sit and they wait and they wait. And so I'm just saying on my end, I could see how that could be possible.
Starting point is 01:01:31 We hear people talk about strange booms and no understanding of where it's coming from. Well, maybe there's some kind of construction going on underground, and that's why you have no idea where it's coming from. Just my own thoughts. This is why we're only giving your first name and we're not doing this on video. So I don't want to get you in trouble. No, I mean, yeah, that's, I mean, that's pretty valid point. So, you know, I just look at it from like more than like the conventional dude.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And also I always, I laugh. Like the one thing I could, I always bugs me, right, right, by secret military bases, right? Who do they have staffing this? Because they may just pick up some Joe Snuffy, some regular guy off the street. Come on. Like, everybody's on TikTok nowadays. I mean, I've always wondered, like, I mean, I guess if you make them sign a non-disclosure agreement, it's a legally binding document.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I think there's a lot of that, though. I really do. I think there's a lot of vetting as to who gets access to certain things. And once you are somebody that they think is able to do what they need you to do, then you have to sign a legal document. And you're already fitting the profile of somebody that they think would be fine with whatever. And so the odds are you'll be fine. We have people that were civilians like Bob Lazar.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I don't know how you feel about Bob Lazare, but he was a civilian working in S4, and he technically went AWOL. He started talking and showing people things, and he created a lot of problems in his life. And so, you know, that maybe even Bob Lazar himself over the years has been an example for other people not to talk about the things that they're doing. And then I think Bob said that, you know, he would get on, I think it was like a blacked out bus. They had no idea how to get to where they were going. going or something like that. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm confusing stories now that I'm thinking about it. But no, I'm pretty sure he had an escort. Like, he couldn't just drive to where he worked. He had to be at a certain spot to get on a bus to be driven. And so I'm sure there's layers and layers
Starting point is 01:03:36 of security at these places, but I'm always just curious. Oh, yeah. I mean, no, curiosity is what, you know, is ultimately going to get me killed. So I'm a big fan. So, uh, anyways, let's move on to another story, brother. Okay. All right. So this next story is also Vietnam-related stories. So the background on this is I'll post little articles on the page that I find mainly a lot from the Big Footfield Resource Organization because it's easy and I can filter through like, you know, Fort Polk and I can get like some hits on Fort Polk. But I did. It was like Googling paranormal Vietnam, like just going by like each one of our major wars. And so I found this one article from the is like kind of like a military website called We Are the Mighty. And it was like, it was like a military website called We Are the Mighty. And it was. was like, basically it was talking about a legend in Vietnam troops talked about called the tree people. And it's not like related to like the like the other sightings of like Sasquash like creatures and other weird things that soldiers saw there. So the gist of it was that there are the soldiers who saw like these shadows that look like people or sometimes they saw like actual people in the trees or at the base of these trees inside like the under the shade. and at night they would see him walking around everywhere.
Starting point is 01:04:49 And then it takes a little bit of a woo kind of like turn. And then it talks about like how that these were actually like zombies. The Montiards told them like there are these like ghost ghoul things. And then like how the soldiers actually found like these zombie like creatures of like, you know, dead NBA and Via Kong and American soldiers. And they had to be killed. The light burned them so they hid in the trees. It got kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And so that's why, quote unquote, we used Agent Orange in Vietnam. That was the claim. I don't know how much I buy into that one. But when I posted that, I was like, oh, let me just post this. It's kind of an interesting story. I don't know if I buy into it too much. I actually had two individuals reach out to me. One individual whose husband served in Vietnam, another individual whose late family friend also serving Vietnam,
Starting point is 01:05:36 who kind of led some credence to that story, maybe more of like the supernatural, maybe not like the zombies running around Vietnam, but like, you know, kind of like maybe there was actually something to this story. So the first part here, my husband serving Vietnam from 1970 to 1971. He and others saw what they called the tree spirits in Vietnam. Tree spirits are soldiers who died fighting in Vietnam. My husband said that you could see shadows that look like soldiers with weapons. He said you could distinguish the shadows if they were Vyakong, MVA, or even American soldiers. It looked like they were, it was just the shadow outline of those people. Perhaps they were guarding the area. He didn't think those spirits knew that they were
Starting point is 01:06:15 dead. And when the night sky would light up with artillery illumination rounds, he would see their shadows all in the trees. Like they would physically be in the trees, like on the branches looking down. So the second part is from another story. And this individual's, it recounts a story that his friend, his dad's late friend Miles. So my dad's late friend Miles used to be in a recon battalion in Vietnam. He saw some messed up stuff because they were usually alone and way ahead of everyone else, typical of like a reconnaissance battalion. He told me that once in a while you'd see people at night, like silhouettes in the trees, bushes, and grass. He described a few of them as all black and like shadows. And a few others were like the predator, you know, that see-through,
Starting point is 01:06:55 not typical see-through, like not invisible. But because they're thick of it, they think they thought it was just the enemy. It could be anything. But nothing would phase them. You'd shoot through these shadows and these like glimmers and they would just stand there and stare at you like I guess like what he described as they they would just turn like be pointed at your direction Miles used to tell me that he believed the government was doing experiments out there or the land was cursed he also believed that the ghost couldn't leave the field so they would just wait and watch the battles miles is also a crazy bastard even up until his death but when it came to Vietnam he was always dead serious and he never swore he always swore that he wasn't lying
Starting point is 01:07:33 So I got those two stories and it made me really think that maybe there is something to those spirits, the tree people, the tree spirits. Just another interesting Vietnam story. Yeah, and that actually maybe it rings a bell for me because it's more local than me, but the idea of Gettysburg. People swear they see apparitions all over Gettysburg from the Deadless Battle of the Civil War. And so the idea of, you know, that, do you know of any reason why they would be? be in trees, though? I mean, was this something that maybe they did tactically? So what I, I mean, so obviously like the Viacong and the NBA would use the trees as cover. But so what I, the only thing I could find was it, there was like a, a legend in Vietnam of some of like the more rural tribes.
Starting point is 01:08:24 And don't quote me on this. I did. Like, when I say research, I'm like, let me look at Wikipedia after work. Like five minutes later. Yeah. Now I'm up late. But it was basically like. a legend that the ghost of people who died in the jungle would basically congregate around these trees. And that's really all I could find on it. Nothing like, you know, they were hostile or anything like that or like the zombie kind of like the story was going for. The original one I found.
Starting point is 01:08:52 But it was more like they're just apparitions that had died in battle and they just stayed there, you know? Yeah. Or they were still watching. They were like, I don't know, it was it was not a lot of information I could find. And that's where it gets hard, like, with foreign stories. You know, and I have to dig into that because it's different search engines and, like, language barrier. Every now and again, I'm lucky and I find someone from those parts of the world that'll, like, elaborate or help me feed me stories. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I think maybe they were just ghosts, you know. Hawaii has a legend of the night marchers, which I don't know if you're familiar. No. So night marchers are the ghosts and spirits of ancient Hawaiian world. warriors and they will occasionally appear in places that are of great spiritual and significance to the local Hawaiians. So places where there were big battles and stuff like that. And they appear basically like they'll appear at a distance or they'll walk up to you.
Starting point is 01:09:48 And when you see them, you're supposed to leave. Like the legend is you don't stay because it's bad luck. It's bad business for you. They're telling you to leave. And you'll see them marching with torches. Some people report the lights. some people report the actual apparition, like a full-bodied, um,
Starting point is 01:10:05 ancient Hawaiian warrior standing there. And they don't do anything overly hostile. They just watch you. But it's like, that's, that's your Q, K, time to go.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Um, and that's a, that's a pretty big predominant legend. There's even people that see it like it's in some of the training areas here. Yeah, there's a lot of legends coming out of Hawaii. Uh, I,
Starting point is 01:10:22 one of my show artists lives in Hawaii. He's, you know, his name's Alika. He's pure Hawaiian. Uh, and he, he tells me stories.
Starting point is 01:10:31 a lot whenever we get to talk. And one of these days, I got to have him back on the show. I had him on before and stuff, but there's so much that he could share from the local legends. I mean, it's, and he's, he's, he's a historian, essentially. Yeah. I mean, not, like, it's not his job. He's a full-time artist, but, um, his bloodline comes from royalty in Hawaii. And he just, like, 100% is firmly rooted in his lineage where he knows the history of the, of the land. He knows the legends. He knows everything. He's like a walking encyclopedia for Hawaii, and he loves it. Like, he loves his land. So much respect for him. But that is interesting. And I got some thoughts about the zombie angle, but I'm actually going to not talk about it
Starting point is 01:11:20 on the recording because I might actually do something else with that angle later. And I don't want to give it away, but I'll tell you later. But yeah, it's interesting. So go ahead and Carry on, my friend. All right. So this next story is really unique. And is it that it comes from Russia out of a member of someone who's served in the Russian armed forces. So disclaimer, even though media pumps it up and, you know, we talk about Russia, we're not technically at war with Russia.
Starting point is 01:11:48 So, like, you know, I will take stories from anyone. So this guy, and this guy actually served, he came over here, became a U.S. citizen and served in the U.S. Army, totally legal to do as long as he passed a background check. and he passed every background truck known to man. But he has two really interesting stories, and I think it's interesting because, you know, those countries that we may or may not have necessarily a friendly relationship with
Starting point is 01:12:12 or like kind of like that standoffers relationship like we do. I always wonder, like, you know, countries like Iran, Iraq, Russia, China, like paranormal stuff and crazy stuff is not just limited to the Western world. Like, what are they experiencing there that makes their history? more importantly, you know, outside of the Western world, people have a different way of viewing the paranormal, you know.
Starting point is 01:12:37 In Russia, like, you know, ghosts and spirits are just kind of like, oh, yeah, there's one that lives down the road in the swamp. Don't walk past right midnight. It will drag you into the swamp and drown you. Common knowledge. Yeah, it's common knowledge. Or like, you know, oh, yeah, no, that's just, that's our, that's our, that's our, that's our friendly neighborhood guardian. Just don't cuss around it. and keep mind your manners and you'll be okay.
Starting point is 01:13:02 You know, so I always find it super fascinating. And I actually have, you know, this is one of the individuals who sent me a story from over there. But I think it's just good, it's just really good perspective on stuff and just also super fascinating. So I'll get into it. So this first story is when he was in Chesnia. So before I became a U.S. citizen and joined the U.S. Army, I was in the VDV, which is the Russian paratroopers from 2008 to 2013. team. And for those of you don't know, like, they have mandatory conscription. So that's why he was also in the service. He didn't really have a choice. During my time, I did two combat rotations. One being in Chechnya, the other one being in Dagestan. During my first rotation in Chechnya, it was early spring 2009. The rain was nonstop. The fog was stick-like forage, and it shifted between cold and hellishly hot. I was doing the patrol in the dead of night with my sentry team, a group of four men, me, Vassia, Kiril, and Alosha. It had been raining the whole day, and it didn't seem like it was going to stop. for the night either. The woods were thick and impenetrable and the mood was non-existent.
Starting point is 01:14:00 My team was walking through the woods when all of a sudden we could see what looked like torches in front of us, little orbs of light just floating in the distance. We turned and looked at each other, obviously worried we were about to meet insurgents in this pitch blackness. That's when the whisper started happening. It really didn't make sense to me. It sounded like the trees were talking because it was coming from everywhere. I couldn't make out anything they said, but it was different for Vassia. However, he called out, Papa, what do you mean you want me close to you. He started taking off into the forest. And what I mean taking off? Dead sprinting toward those lights. He dropped his rifle and stripped off all his gear
Starting point is 01:14:33 and proceeded to run through the brambles and bushes like they didn't matter. The three of us were barely keeping up with him as he continues to yell for his father asking if he is cold and hungry. We finally caught up to him. He just stops in this small clearing of the forest at the edge of a peat bog. He falls through his knees, looks at us, and says, I like to go home now. We drag him back to our camp and explained to our NCO in charge that we were why we were 30 minutes late. He just sends us to our beds and we lay in our bedrooms looking at each other in shock,
Starting point is 01:15:01 trying not to cry. The villagers in many different places in Russia talk about fairy lights or cappers, which are lights that lead people to their deaths. It's kind of creepy. It's like some stalker level stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:12 So it seems like something took over this guy's mind. Yeah. So it's basically like, basically I would describe it to me. there's like Russian folkle talks about these spirits that basically try to convince you to go walk into the bog and lead you to your death or swamps and stuff like that. And so when you stopped at the peak bog, it seemed like when they caught up to him, whatever was possessing him stopped. I don't know. It was really weird. He said it was definitely an experience that left him shaken. And he just, if I hear voices in the woods now, I just, when I started hearing stuff in the woods again, he would turn around and leave.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Wow. Wow. And that happened to Russia. That happened in Russia, so I was in Chechnya. Chechnya. Gotcha. Wow. So the next story he has is from Mongolia, and I find this one super interesting too. Maybe you can kind of see what this one's going. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Another training exercise I was on was with the Mongolia and the Kazakhstan Army. It was me walking around the desert for a month wondering when I was going to die of heat stroke. There was a point when our groups were walking around these pumice sandstone hills. If you don't know, pumice is a very porous stone with natural holes showing through. And after enough time in rain, these holes get big enough to fit a small man or dog through. On a night watch, I was on a giant cord machine gun. We had these IR thermals attached to them, and I was scanning, more or less really sleeping the terrain. When I see what appears to be the thermal image of one of those inflatable tube men without arms,
Starting point is 01:16:37 you know, the kinds that you see at car dealerships in the U.S. that wave around, it's about 100 meters out on the slope of a hill. I believe can close my eyes. When I open and look through again, I see this thing moving side to side, just like one of those giant inflatable two men, but with no arms. I decided to turn on the floodlight attached to our cord, and for its split second, I see this massive fucking caterpillar about the size of a horse. It's poking out one of those large holes in the pumice,
Starting point is 01:17:01 and it slinks back down when I was trying to light on it. I remember vivid detail this thing. It was the same amber color as a cockroach. I counted eight limbs from what I saw, but I can only guess that maybe what I was only seeing was a quarter of the length of this thing. It's face, if you want to call it, that looked like one of those woodgrows. I shot in a legitimate surprise. I turned around and there was a Kazakh soldier watching me.
Starting point is 01:17:23 You probably exclaimed that I had seen a quote unquote Mongolian deathworm. And to be honest, I have no explanation for what it could have been otherwise. Yeah. What the heck? What the heck. Yeah. Yeah. I know what I saw.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I definitely I was not hallucinating. Wow. That's weird. That is so weird. So the best he could describe was a giant catapy. Yeah, he said that's what it looked like. And when he said he talked to the other, the Kazakh soldiers and the Mongolian soldiers that had,
Starting point is 01:17:58 it was an undisclosed location in the Mongolian desert or somewhere out there. And they basically were like, oh, yeah, you see these things all the time. And it's kind of makes me laugh because it's just like wildlife at any other military base, right? Like here and, so like for example, the pigs in Hawaii, right? they will run away if they see you, Tony, walking up to them because they're scared of people. But if they say, see the uniform, if they specifically see the Army OCP uniform, they are so used to soldiers, they do not care. They're like, oh, whatever. Really?
Starting point is 01:18:31 Yeah. They will walk right up to you thinking you're going to toss some food because people feed them. Like, they have no fear of you. You have to like kind of make some noise to get them to go away, which I always find it funny. I'm like, what are these things out there living in the training areas? They're like, oh, look, it's a soldier. I don't even really care. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:48 You know. But yeah, those are two unique stories, I think, coming out of, like, the Russian armed forces. Very unique individual, an individual who surprisingly there's people like him that serve in foreign militaries and then come to the United States, pass their background checks, and then join up in the armed forces. That's incredible. Wow. I don't even know to say to that. I mean, that's so bizarre. Such a good story, both of them.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Great story. Great story. It really shows, like with some of these stories you're sharing, it just shows that the bizarre stuff is not constrained to any one country. I mean, it's just, it's all over the place. Yeah. And I'll have one more foreign one here. And we'll be back to like United, you know, United States. But I'm always looking for foreign ones.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Ironically, when I first started the page, I had a lot of, not ironically, but, you know, really cool. I had a lot of New Zealand soldiers following me. And they would tell me about Galatas Barrett. It's a Wiro training area, which is, like, infamous because it's, like, the, like, starting base for most soldiers in New Zealand. But it's also supposedly supremely haunted. It has, like, all sorts of stories surrounding it. I always love listening to foreign stories. Just one, I always find that even though militaries are different, some things always stay the same.
Starting point is 01:20:07 And then, too, just did, like, their perspective on things, you know. Absolutely. There's quite a bit. But we'll get into another foreign one real quick. So this from the British Army, this one's a little more simple. maybe. Okay, so this individual was in the British 40th Royal Marine Commandos. So I don't know if that, I'm not too familiar with British Army, but that's the unit he was in. So this was when he was in Afghanistan during the war. So we were on Herrick 7 in Afghanistan as a young Marines in the 40th
Starting point is 01:20:37 commando of Royal Marines. We were in Sengen and tasked with taking ground at the four edges of the fight lines. Marines would fight through these areas, taking ground, and the army would follow up behind them and build fobs and patrol bases to hold this hard one territory. This is at the height of violence with the Taliban and IED activity. Labs were getting shot and blown up regularly. They were losing legs, arms, feet, and being killed. There are instances of the Taliban hanging body parts from the trees to scare troops in these certain areas. But through all this chaos, madness, and violence, we had loyal interpreters that risked their
Starting point is 01:21:09 lives and families to be with us. They were out there in the area, but if they were found what they were doing with us, their families would be beheaded. To say that these guys were brave was an understatement. However, on a routine patrol, we came up onto a new village. As we approached the town, these same hardcore brave interpreters that have gone through hell and high water with us refused to go into the town with no explanation. After much arguing and threatening not to pay them for completing their job, they finally said that they would not enter the village because it was inhabited by evil gnomes that cursed and killed people. There are these short, dark-skinned,
Starting point is 01:21:46 little people that move quickly and look like angry little mad people. Although we didn't see anything, these interpreters would not enter the village, let alone look at it and quit their jaw and would quit their jaws if they had to go into that town. It was so strange. They had never backed down from a fight in the Taliban and really went through the shit, routinely went through the shit with us. After all they had seen and been through, it makes me wonder how evil those gnomes could
Starting point is 01:22:10 have been. It really makes you wonder. I mean, I've heard stories of gnomes and things like that. that. And when you put it in that light where, you know, these are guys who are going counterculture, they are putting their lives in the line, their family's lives on the line, going against Taliban, things like that. And they're scared of gnomes, you know? Because I asked them, I asked that guy, like, was it because they knew the Taliban was there maybe, like, Al-Qaeda or something? And they were like, no. Like, he was like, these guys would,
Starting point is 01:22:37 like, run through fire with us. Like, no, no hesitation. But when it came to this particular village, they refuse to go anywhere near it. This is a weirdness. I mean, it really, when you put the context around that story, it really puts some validity to it because these guys really, and not just one guy, many people really believe there was just pure evil there, more evil than the evil they were fighting. Yeah. Like, Afghanistan is a weird place, man.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Like, I, you know, I've never been there, but just hearing. stories and talking to people that have lived and thought there, like, I think it's definitely a place that is, uh, hard to understand. Yeah, I might need to visit someday. Nah, just kidding. Yeah, it might need to take, I would, I would wait a little bit, Tony. Yeah, I think it might be a, maybe a slight miscalculation on my part. Okay, let's talk about a last sponsor for today's show, which is Hello Fresh, and Hello Fresh is a great thing for you right now. this time of year. You're after the holidays, and guess what you're trying to do? Like everybody else, you're trying to save money because you just spent a boatload of money on the holidays,
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Starting point is 01:25:27 three free gifts. Okay, so this next story is from a marine at Camp Lejeune. And I think it's pretty cool because it involves ghost tanks. All right. Ghost tanks on Camp Lejeune. So I want to start off by saying that it was my second or third month through the Jacksonville, North Carolina area. And I just got stationed at Marine Corps Air Station New River.
Starting point is 01:25:49 So I wanted to explore Camp Lejeune because I knew I would have to go there from time to time to perform my duties. And so one night, around midnight, probably Friday or Saturday, I was getting in my, I got my car and headed over to Lajun to kind of drive around and explore my way around the base. It's probably, probably ended up around 3 a.m. when I decided to head back to my barracks. So I plug in my GPS. Long story short, I end up on one of those roads towards the base's old decommission gates. If you spend any time in the Onslow area, you know that the wee hours in the morning, you can get pretty foggy and, creates an overall and easy feeling. I realized my mistake that I was heading towards a dead end, and I turned around and started heading back the way I came.
Starting point is 01:26:27 At this point, my car starts to jump and shake. I guess it was one of those artillery battalions running a night ops shooting into the air close by. Well, anyway, I keep going down the road, and it's lined by streetlights maybe 100 feet or more apart, and they're illuminating the street through the fog just enough. All of a sudden, it feels like I was on a drawbridge, like, you know, everything's shaking.
Starting point is 01:26:48 And I, shit you not, three tanks, about 300 feet away from me, vintage-looking, maybe be Vietnam era, come rolling from the tree line on the right, across the road and into the tree line at the other side of the road. They had men manning the turrets and everything. I could only make out the men from the shoulders up, but they were not wearing our modern kevlares, and instead they would look like they had the old GI helmets with no covers on the way that the streetlights reflected off the tops. They're like they're in the bare metal, like that old bare metal. After they passed, I immediately thought that I might have
Starting point is 01:27:17 accidentally ventured into a restricted part of the base, like on a range or something. Still, when I got to where they crossed, there were no signs of them, no muddy track marks, no, the tree lines were super dense, nothing was knocked over. You can even fit a squat through there without making at least hacking a couple of the trees down. I don't know what I saw, but those tanks of soldiers looked like they were straight out of Vietnam. That, I guess, falls in line with the idea of the residual energy. I mean, you have to, like, and I found the story interesting.
Starting point is 01:27:47 because when he describes, like, the rattling noise, like, I don't know if you ever been near tanks. No. Right? So, like, tanks are super noisy. Like, anything with tracks makes, like, a ton of noise. Makes, like, this, like, clunking noise. And just tanks and cells are just super loud.
Starting point is 01:28:03 And they, and when they move, because they're so heavy, they'll shake the ground if there's enough of them. So, like, it sounds like she saw, like, these legit tanks that just came rolling through. I know, I found that was super interesting. I've never heard of ghost tanks before. but he swears up and down what he saw was those those were tanks you know maybe it maybe it was like a residual memory or something of the land or something like that yeah i mean i don't know but
Starting point is 01:28:27 that that's the best way i could describe it i mean tanks were never alive so we know it's not a soul of a tank you know it's yeah i showed him a random picture from vietnam of like dudes riding on top of a tank like kind of like what he was describing with like the gear and i was like is this what you saw and i sent him like a couple other ones of like other different tanks from different periods and he was like, nope, this is exactly what I saw. This exact same tank, this exact same style rolling down the road. And it's like, you know, those things haven't been in Army. I think it was before even the M60, which was like around in like the Gulf War still.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Like that has not been in the Army system for years, let alone the Marine Corps one. So I always wondered what it could have been. Yeah. And so, I mean, if that's the case, then even the idea of, you know, if just being an antique movie, it probably wouldn't even be moved. If it was real, it probably would. wouldn't be something that would be movable. It would have to be stationary, not like it could just drive around. Exactly. So, I don't know, really weird story. It's interesting. All right. So the
Starting point is 01:29:27 next one, we're going back to Iraq. And this one's super interesting, not necessarily like creepy or spooky or anything, but I think puts a lot of like perspective onto some of the stuff that, like, some of these stories. So the background to this, this individual worked in intelligence and military intelligence, right? And they do a lot of analysis, like on cultures and stuff like that is probably one of their big jobs. So the story goes, back in 2009, the exo out of fob asked me to report on the cultures and history of our surrounding area. And that fob encompassed and protected an ancient ziggurat. Not sure why. Much of the secretarian stuff, much of the secretarian stuff is disturbing fringe things. So secretarian being like like the fringe groups, the vibe, like some of that violence of like
Starting point is 01:30:12 They're not affiliated with Saddam. They're not affiliated with Al-Qaeda. They're like kind of out there on their own. So they were trying to figure things out like who is who out there. My higher-ups were also interested in the local small Jewish population as well in Iraq. The weird stuff that way found usually sent around a single dude, a mystic that was focused on the darker stuff. Mystic isn't Islam isn't about the Quran as much as about a spiritual connection. Honestly, it looks closer to Hinduism than Islam anyway from.
Starting point is 01:30:42 what I found. Meditation, narcotics, chances, rituals to summon, or become one with whatever. The crazy ones were focused on energy, focused their energy on summoning gin, Iblis, etc., other weird creatures. The funny enough, I tried to find more info. I couldn't keep the report I did, but Google sucks for research now. But all that will pop up is Yazidis, I can't pronounce that, which have their baddies too. They focus on Marduk, a couple other things. You want to to dig into it. The sources, physical evidence that shows racism does not predate Judaism, and it just predates the Jewish exile to Babylon. Also, since Islam is a relatively new religion, these are important details. The super important details is because the diffusion of ancient
Starting point is 01:31:29 cultures ties into the boogeyman origin stories of today. One of these days, I'll have to get back into it, but the stories that pops out when you have all this info are engrossing. So going back, For instance, when I was in Iraq at this fall, an Islamic fighter created a brigade of extremists, as in too messed up for their other extremists to associate it with, i.e., they would kill their enemies, eat their hearts and livers. This way, they destroyed their opposition and gained the power of knowledge of the person they murdered slash killed. They validate this from a story where hind, I guess from the Quran, ate the liver of Hamzaa, the companion of the prophet of Muhammad. those guys still consider themselves to be Muslims.
Starting point is 01:32:10 You also have counterculture guys who see Islam as a corruption of an older, better, more powerful, i.e. better or more powerful religion. This goes back into where you're saying like serrationism and pre-Judaism, culture is mixing with Islam. Cryptage, gin, ghouls, etc. are whisperings of an ancient religion of the past. Usually these ancient holdover pieces start blending with local and foreign beliefs. inevitably some nut with a dark past laches on to this stuff and tries to revive it he has given or finds some secret knowledge that ties together with whatever ancient mystery he wants to use to validate whatever reason he's selling the modus operanda of these guys is always the same the same thing man they seek validation pleasure influence and power when they focus on the darker spirits things that get sick things that get weird i call these guys the anti-muslims they get off on doing all sorts of things Islam says is evil they do to some of these gen beings, and these guys are pretty much like the otherworldly, worldwide variations of the Shrigoi, Fairy, and other, not so much like the genie, Islamic view. These anti-Muslim guys want to channel these spirits to help them fight their enemies. They like the ones that target travelers and strangers, i.e. us.
Starting point is 01:33:22 But these gin are usually extra spooky and extra creepy. So these guys focus all their energy on connecting with that shit. Now throw in a combat zone, various people stacking bodies on the regular for generations in a consolidated area. And it's no wonder, I think our guys see freaky stuff out there. So basically, I know it's a lot to digest. Basically, this guy looking into weird fringe stuff at this fob that was around an ancient religious site found out that there's like these groups of people that take Islam to an extreme.
Starting point is 01:33:53 And then there's groups of people that like go the exact opposite way to the extreme. But they're blending ancient culture and religion together. and so his belief basically from this whole thing was that people that see the weird stuff in combat zones people see like you know ghosts and apparitions and like I saw this demon looking thing peek around a corner on this village he thinks that it's
Starting point is 01:34:18 you know these people were summoning these creatures to come mess with us you know and whether or not I was they're getting the effect they wanted or not or whether or not it's real he just thinks that maybe that's why people saw like the weird things they did in Iraq and Afghanistan man. Wow. So that's like a whole other new element to what is perceived to be going on over there. Yeah. And I talked to some guys of Islamic faith and they said that this is exactly spot on. It's like in Afghanistan, Iraq, this is exactly like correct. There's like these guys that take like this black magic kind of anti-Muslim thing.
Starting point is 01:35:00 And then there's these guys that take like, you know, the Quran to a whole other level, you know, just like they're like, this is exactly true. And both of them do like some type of occultish black magic kind of things to summon powers that they think will do their bidding. Really weird stuff. So how, as somebody who's in the military, if that story's true, how do you think we combat that kind of stuff in the field? Who knows, Tony? He clears his throat. Hey, you know what? I have some guesses.
Starting point is 01:35:36 I don't know, Tony. I mean, I think a lot of soldiers themselves are very spiritual and religious too. Like, I knew people that have some very, very superstitious things and all sorts of religions and cultures in the U.S. military. I'm sure we combine our faith to prevent some of these things from happening. Um, but yeah, no, that would be an interesting thing. I, it reminds me of like a book I read a while back about it. Oh, no, it's, yeah, okay, I'm thinking of hellboy. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Close. Yeah, but no, I always find it interesting because there's definitely, as much as people want to pretend like religion is not a thing and is fake and made up, like, you know, I'm a, I'm a guy of a certain faith that I believe all the stuff is real. Yeah. Well, me too. Me too. you wonder, if
Starting point is 01:36:31 you're getting stories through your Instagram page like that, surely we know all about it, you know, and it's like, how do you, how do you approach that then? Because I mean, I'm firmly convinced
Starting point is 01:36:47 that, you know, our military government, things like that, they're not ignorant to the idea of black magic being real. And so... I'm sure, I mean, like, I'm sure, Tony, like, there's, I can think that if there was anything that could be used against us or used for us, we're going to look into it.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Sure. Yeah. Like, as anyone would. Like, that's the, that's the one. If there's some world-altering power, you can best believe we're probably, we're probably going to figure out how to harness it before someone else can. Like, you know what I mean? Or at least try to figure out is it any threat to us?
Starting point is 01:37:27 I don't know. It sounds very Hollywoodish, but I feel like that's just human nature and bandwidth. No, I agree. I agree. We'll leave it there. We'll leave it there. I won't, I won't pry too much because, you know, I'm trying to be a good soldier for you. Oh, God, Tony.
Starting point is 01:37:47 I'm not trying to get you in trouble, man. Like, I don't want to egg you into conversation. They could get you into trouble. Well, unfortunately, Tony, I would say everything I'm talking about is just stuff from my own. research and belief. I don't, unfortunately, have any, I don't know where the skeletons are buried out there. No, but I don't want, I don't want you to come across as agreeing with some of the accusations I could pitch. Yeah, I really hope people paid attention to my disclaimer in the front. Yes. And that goes from me too. Like, my opinions, my opinions are not Nick's opinions.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Oh, man. Where are we at here? Okay. So here's this next one from Fort Huachut. Right? So people I don't know, Fort Huachuca is out in New Mexico. It's where the Army trains a lot of their intel people, a lot of signal guys. It's mainly like a training base. All right. So this guy, the recounts a time, he saw a UFO out there two times. Okay, so there were two times that it had happened in the day and two times at night. If anyone has ever been to Fort Huachuka, they know that the long PT road that takes them to the airport gate and the mountain base. This road is pretty long, and many battalions do their fair share of running, rucking, and PT tests.
Starting point is 01:38:59 on it. One morning, we had been doing a team run, and we were running down the road towards the airport. My team leader and I usually had a similar pace, and so we'd always run together. We had seen this black disc come down from the clouds, way out from the far mountain range, towards Tucson. This thing has to be making time because of how quickly it got from one side of the range to the other in a matter of seconds. As soon as they started moving over the mountains, we heard the F-22s from the airport picking up, start up and take off. It was pretty quick that these guys, it was pretty apparent that these guys were taken off and chasing this thing. The The other range is about 90 to 120 miles away, and that's from where we are in the Sierra Vista.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Anyways, by the time these pilots had responded to it, it was already moving back up into the atmosphere. This all had to happen within like two to three minutes. The second time is when we were in formation closeout, waiting for our sergeant major to start talking. I have been looking up, memorizing the clowns, just like as any board specials would do, and I had noticed this black silver, this, I'm sorry, this silver disk was moving at such weird angles to match the form of the clouds. I pointed us out to another guy next to me. We were both watching it as the cloud, as other clouds had moved in below blocking our view,
Starting point is 01:40:03 and we never saw it after that. The first time we had seen the lights at night was when we would sit in the back of my truck, drink and talk about watching the lightning storms over Tucson in the distance. The stars were bright, but we were, we had been out there all night, almost drinking every night, and then we knew something was different.
Starting point is 01:40:19 This night, we were talking as usual, not drinking, and we had seen these green and orange lights flashing in the distance, moving fast and coming to a stop. We looked up at what airplane lines they could be on their wings, but it wasn't matching up to anything we could find. That was the first weird thing, that these lights would hover, that these lights would hover in an area outside of the storm for another 15 minutes before shooting up and out of sight within the blink of an eye.
Starting point is 01:40:42 We also always saw was a stream of light that something makes when it moves really fast, stupid fast. We both had agreed that it was weird and continued our conversation. The lack of experience I had would be when I was out in the field with shooting comms. we ran 24-hour comm switching parameters on our net ops to make sure everything was fully functional. We had seen another light come down, this time in a circular motion over the border with the U.S. airspace. It wasn't too far away from us, but we were watching with big eyes. It was just hovering near the blimps for a few minutes.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Intel uses like kind of blimps to gather intelligence signals, stuff like that. So that's what he was working on. It was flashing colors like the last one. This time it was just a blue light, but super brighter than anything I've ever seen. At the same time, it had come down. we had lost signal in radio coms, so we couldn't even call to the other teams who had been closer to it
Starting point is 01:41:27 on the other side of the valley. This time, instead of beaming back up to the sky, it just disappeared in the blink of an eye. So a couple weird UFO sightings from Fort Huachuca. And where is that again, Fort Huachuca? New Mexico. Oh, sorry, here's the rest of it.
Starting point is 01:41:44 I'm sorry, I have this flipped in my pages. So he goes on to say, we knew it had the left because the signal had come back because his signal of the net ops had gone out when the thing appeared. We received a call from the officer in own duty at the time, and we didn't know if we had a believable story. So we blinked on a power issue.
Starting point is 01:42:00 The four of us saw it and tried to get a video proof, but nothing could be made out except for the audio. We all passed off. There's another weird thing about Arizona without ever speaking of it again. The Air Force has done a lot of exciting stuff out there about the one, but you know about the one airline that goes into Area 51? We had this thing land there one time on our tiny runway. We were never seen anything more significant than A10s and F-22s land there before. So when I saw this giant commercial flight, I thought it was bizarre. That's the end of it.
Starting point is 01:42:28 That is interesting. Why would a giant commercial flight land there? Yeah, I think it's called Comet or something like that. It's like a government contracted flight. And it's known, it's like one of those people, cargo movers. And it's known, I guess, for taking people to Area 51 or just moving people to some of these sites outside in the desert. From what I've been able to gather online, not too familiar with that too much. but yeah, weird stuff in the desert.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Do you think that that's more than likely our own stuff that we're working on? It's just top secrets, so you're not going to know what you're looking at? Who knows? I mean, I definitely could say that if we ever wanted to test our own stuff out, the best people to do it against would be us, I guess, because, you know, if we're imagining we're the toughest guys on the planet, then, of course, we want to fight the toughest guys on the planet. I just don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:21 I know we've, I mean, the U.S. in history, if you look up like, I forgot what they're called, but when the first Navy SEALs came around, they created a team that they would go around. They would basically like attack and infiltrate military bases to test themselves, right? Because if we're the best, then the best should be fighting the best, quote unquote, you know. So I could imagine maybe some of the stuff is just tech that we have out there, especially in all the test ranges and airfields and just. massive amount of empty space in the desert in Arizona and Mojave and stuff like that. Maybe. I don't know. So what are your thoughts on the idea that we have craft that what didn't originate from earth? I mean, from what I understand, our government did say that recently. What do you think about?
Starting point is 01:44:08 Yeah, that was weird. I have no idea what to put on that. I was like, huh, this is not exactly what was expecting. I don't know. But it goes back to what I said earlier. If we have something, what does everyone else have? Because like you said, you know, this stuff and these stories and activity are not just synonymous in the United States. I always makes me wonder. I do believe I think it would be we are not just like some fluke of nature that we're the only planet to develop life. I'm sure that there's stuff out there. You know, and maybe they're just, maybe they're just like what we would do when we discover, like, if we would ever go, like, say to Pluto and discover those life on Pluto, what we do. We would probably, like, whoa, take a step back. Like, let's check this out because
Starting point is 01:44:55 we were not expecting this. We thought we were alone. I would imagine they're maybe similar to us in that regards. Like, you know what I mean? If they were truly an advanced civilization that can steam or less, why haven't they done it yet? Yeah. I mean, that's definitely a valid argument. Yeah, it's interesting. There's so many things that I think about when it comes to that stuff. Like the Eisenhower deal, I mean, is that real? Did it actually happen? Knowing what we know now, as far as UFOs go and things that the government's saying now,
Starting point is 01:45:28 is it possible that this whole conspiracy theory of Eisenhower making a deal with extraterrestrials? I mean, nowadays, with what our government says now, if you said Biden made a deal with extra treasurer. You're like, well, we are talking to them. We do have access to their craft and things like that. So it makes you wonder if the Eisenhower deal is something that actually did happen. Yeah. I mean, maybe we'll find out.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Maybe we're not. Maybe they're not like this advanced civilization. Maybe they're refugees that have finally come across the habitable planet. I don't know. Like, I love science fiction. I love reading about that stuff. Maybe science fiction becomes science reality one day. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:46:11 Yeah, well, I think that's starting to happen, my friend. I think that's starting to happen. Well, see. So, other disclaimer is I get a lot of people that do message my page with some very outlandish things that aren't in the military. And they give me a lot of dates like this, the world should have ended as of yesterday or something like that. And I'm like, well, still here, guys. So I think a lot of this stuff, too, there's a lot of people that put out their, you know, uninhibited opinions as fact. and kind of disrupt the whole thing, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:44 makes it really hard to weed through that mass of like what's real and what's not. Yeah, yeah, I totally get it. Let's get to some of the Skinwalker stuff. All right, let me skip ahead of your. All right. So this is that Fort Benning, right? So these last two are kind of like Skinwalker's stories. And we get, I guess, into the overtime.
Starting point is 01:47:05 I picked some other ones out that people claim to be Skinwalkers. And I have some ones that I haven't posted yet. So this first one is from Fort Bennings. We didn't know anything about Fort Benning. Fort Benning is New Georgia. It's a huge army training base. They have basic training, airborne,
Starting point is 01:47:18 Ranger School, big base, right? A lot of training area. A lot of land of people who are running out of. So this story is from a guy at OCS. Also, I found that in a lot of these stories, like people start sharing the same,
Starting point is 01:47:30 same kind of encounters and stories from the same place. It makes you really wonder, like, huh, maybe it's not just a drill sergeant messing with people. Maybe, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:38 that's an interesting thing. Maybe it's something else there. So this guy tells a pretty interesting story. Okay. So I was in OCS doing the dreaded sticks lanes. It was early on in the week, so we were pretty well what I said before we settled into our patrol base for the long night of 50% security. Around 0,200, we started hearing coyotes,
Starting point is 01:47:56 which sounded like a whole band of them making that unnerving, eapy noise, which isn't calming in Fort Benning. The wildlife regularly stumbles across off patrol bases. But this time, it started giving me chills of my spy. And it sounded like they were circling us. A couple, it goes quiet and a couple peaceful and silent minutes pass. The student platoon leader started checking security making sure everybody who was supposed to be awake was awake. When he came back, a man was leading against a tree.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Thinking it was an officer candidate, he started asking, hey, officer candidate, what are you doing standing? Because everybody's supposed to be like prone position, hidden, right, and the patrol base. The LT gets no response. And then it dawned on him. He just checked the whole gun line and everybody was present in a counter for in their positions. Who are you and what are you doing? he exclaimed, and he asked this question again and got no response. If you know anything of a patrol base, you know that it's one way in and one way out
Starting point is 01:48:46 and a password and a guard guards. There's no way some rando could just walk in without knowing the password, and there's no way 50% security would have missed him walking through. So that means like there's 100 people, everybody's paired up into twos, right? And then so those 100 people now spread out in a circle, and out of those 100 people, 50 of them are awake. So there's 50, there's 50 eyes looking in the forest. it's pretty hard to infiltrate it, like just walk straight through it.
Starting point is 01:49:12 So going back to the story. So all of a sudden, the man started walking straight out of the, out of the observation post. All I remember is that he had these very heavy footsteps, heavy footsteps. After that, something in the fort, I, yeah, sorry, I may back up. I kind of tongue twistered there. That's cool. After he walked out of the patrol base, all I remember hearing that he had these very heavy
Starting point is 01:49:34 footfalls. After that, I started hearing something in the forest, like something that would moved between the bushes and I would start to see like a shadow of something staring at us. The following day we got back to the talk, which is basically like kind of like a command post. I noticed that Kaj was present all night and they had a cot set up. Like they had like just woken up. Like they just, they had been asleep all night. I was pretty close to the guy that was there for the night and asked him, hey man,
Starting point is 01:50:00 will you messing with us last night? He responded, hell no. It was way too cold. I was sleeping in the ammo shed. Then we asked around to what other platoons, asked if any of the platoons that had been messing with with us. No one could even point out what we were that night because we were that well hidden. I don't know if it was what it was or how it got there. That's it. That's the story. I'm not embellishing anything or making shit up. It's just what happened. Like most real life
Starting point is 01:50:21 events, I never got any answers or any big reveal. So it's just going to remain an answer for the rest of my life. But just to go back into some detail, I was manning the 249th apex, so I heard him stomping around. The PL described him as tall, about 6'3, which is weird because none of our cadre were under about because none of our conjure are over six feet tall and the only other guys above six three were the gate guard and me the p.L said that he stuck but i don't really chunk that up to anything because after all if you're in the field you stink and he was wearing a gator i guess like a a net gator which is i guess i don't know why that's significant but i guess that's what he was wearing and he was wearing a patrol cap which was also weird because all of us on the patrol base
Starting point is 01:51:04 were wearing helmets. And his flag was on the wrong shoulder and there was no unit patch. He wore the infantry school. We wore the infantry school patch. So on an Army uniform, you would wear your flag patch on your right shoulder.
Starting point is 01:51:17 And then if you had a deployment, the unit you deployed would go beneath that, but then on your left shoulder, you would have your unit patch to distinguish yourself. So this guy had his patch on his left shoulder and he was wearing the wrong unit patch there as well. So it just was looking messed up.
Starting point is 01:51:34 And when I started seeing stuff in the bushes, I was only catching like glimpses of it. And when we watched him move out, it was like he was walking uncomfortably like he was moving on two feet. Like it was uncomfortable for him. So I don't know what could have been. I grew up in Flagstaff, Arizona, in Skinwalker territory. The Navajo are admin that the Skinwalkers only exist inside their tribe. But shapesifter stories are pervasive down in Georgia too. I'm not sure who or what it was, but it seemed like it was impersonating a soldier and getting a lot of things wrong.
Starting point is 01:52:03 I think they got the goat man or some other type of thing. I think also important to know here, I've accidentally skimmed over it. The guy was in ACUs. So you know what ACUs are is like that funky looking green digital camo the army used to have. Yeah. So when this guy was in OCS, we had switched over to OCPs. So it's more of that multi-cam looking color. So also like kind of wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:52:29 And I'll get into that in a second. All I know is skin walkers are people. medicine men who practice like dark things to intimidate people they don't like. Whether you believe they ship shift at all, they do exist, from my experience living in Arizona. The Skinwalker is more of a practice than a cryptic. The Lord goes deeper and it's more supernatural, but the most rational Navajo stop at that point. Skinner walkers are simply humans trying to be animals, but this was different. It felt like it was something trying to be human and failing pretty bad. Maybe it's my background or something, I don't know, but it just seemed off, like that uncanny valley crap. I don't
Starting point is 01:53:01 think there's a cryptid on the books to describe it, but I do think there's a reason why the uncanny Valley evolved in humans. A lot of people hear these stories of features chasing them seem to seem off, right? They go, oh, it's a Skinwalker, but I don't think that's accurate. What I saw, what I'm describing is more like a predator that evolve from us. It uses like its intellect to lure us and kill us. Maybe it's learning to speak with us. It learns to understand our mentalities, but I don't think they're shapeshifers. I think they're like mimics. They try to get, they try to pretend like this, but they sometimes like fail. It's hard to get evidence for them because they're exactly like us.
Starting point is 01:53:32 But if you look at serial killers, the pathology and brain chemistry are just way different. Maybe it's just part of that mutation that makes them these things. So what's funny about that story is, like, I get a lot of stories about people seeing soldiers that are outside of their little area
Starting point is 01:53:47 that wear the wrong uniform, have the wrong stuff on, have out of character, the uniform like they're wearing no winter gear in like summer heat. And or they like are standing weird, walking weird. And I just found,
Starting point is 01:54:01 that kind of interesting. I don't know if you want to, like he said, he doesn't think it's a skin walker. He's under the, the idea that there's something else that we're mistaking for a skin walker. And it's like this thing that's trying to like trick us and mimic us. Because I get a lot of stories from Forbending about tall weird things that look like humans, but when you get a closer look are not humans. That's interesting. I wonder what that is. I wonder what that is. Orbending is weird, man. The way you, I don't know. The way he described it were like it was walking, but it felt uncomfortable walking, trying to walk like a human and stuff. The imagery in my head pops up of the movie Men in Black with Will Smith, the first one,
Starting point is 01:54:38 where the aliens wearing the egress suit and he's walking real weird and stuff because he can't figure it out. And what's the funny thing is, too, is like they're wearing OCPs, right? And like, OCPs are like one of the most hated camel patterns ever because it stands out, it doesn't blend in. And like, when the army got rid of it, the only way you're going to find it now is it's on like old gear that they issue out to you. And for the most part, if people want to pretend like they're the bad guys, right, they're going to wear like the old woodland cameras.
Starting point is 01:55:07 It would make it very obvious, right? So I found that really weird that these, maybe these things went to the clothing and the old was a vintage store and bought a bunch of ACUs being like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is how I'll look like them. And they get out there and realize that everybody else is wearing something different. I don't know. Oh, 6-3, though. This is a big guy. Yeah, that's pretty big. It's pretty big.
Starting point is 01:55:29 I don't know. That's really interesting, though. I would love to know more details of those experiences guys are having there. I mean, that's really interesting. Yeah, especially at Fort Benning, that's a pretty common one. I've gotten like at least four or five other ones like that. Like really tall figure that looks like it's human, but it doesn't quite seem right. Or like its arms are too long or its legs bend too strangely.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Fort Benning's one of those weird places. It's like Fort Polk, some weird stuff. Wow. So we'll get into this next story. And so this was more recent when I got. So this is about a dude's, a guy's dad when he was in Afghanistan. He saw something I thought was really weird
Starting point is 01:56:12 that I've also connected to some other stores I've gotten. So it starts off with my dad. He is on watching this deserted village on the top of a mountain facing north. He is group situated at a wall overlooking this village. Along the village, there's this other wall. Now, this wall has doors leading up to a small square spaces, which are most likely homes. This is about roughly 30 to 40 feet, so keep that in mind.
Starting point is 01:56:35 So my dad is mounted on this wall, and he's looking into the valley they're situated on. He has a 50-cow on a tour of some kind. I can't recall what he said, but I do know it was a 50-cow. He's also got MVGs and other night vision equipment with thermals. I don't really know the correct terms of this, so bear with me, but he is sitting there on the wall and he sees this man through his thermals walking down a mountain about 500 meters from his group. This is unusual because it's two to three in the morning, and this man is just casually walking around this abandoned village at two in the morning. He sees him and starts closely watching him. He says as this man turns and very obviously begins to look at him, but as he looks at him, he just keeps walking.
Starting point is 01:57:09 But he's walking weirdly, and as he keeps walking, it gets more weird to the point he drops on all fours. And my dad swears he turns into a whole panther, complete with tail. He thought he would sleep deprived of surprise if they had spent all night driving to get there. He rubbed his eyes and he's trying to wake his buddy he called his buddy named Cooter as well as his first sergeant on his first deployment. So he's throwing these discarded caliber rounds at his group to get him to wake up, but they're not waking up. He looked through his MVGs again or something and he saw this thing jump onto the wall. When it jumped on the wall, it was about 60 to 100 meters away from him. He starts yelling and the guys woke up and he told them what he saw.
Starting point is 01:57:46 They're all laughing at him and telling him he just saw things, but he knew what he saw and he stood by it. The next night, though, was his friend's turn, and he sees the same thing, but it got closer. So my head's friend, Cooter, woke up my dad, and that's when he said he saw it. And they were both freaking out, and they both knew that they had seen some type of panther down there. So what's interesting about that story that I like is, in the very beginning of the page, I got a bunch of stories about people who had seen Black Panthers in Afghanistan. So Afghanistan does have endemic snow panthers. They're super, super rare.
Starting point is 01:58:19 but like they're super super hard to find they live up in the mountains but people were reporting like black man panthers in like Chuck Valley and like some other places supposedly some people I got pictures of it haven't really got a chance to look at those yet but I always wonder when I saw that story I was like huh
Starting point is 01:58:33 maybe it was it a cat maybe was a cat of some type that is interesting so did Cooter see the Panther turn from like you know did do the transformation or did he just see the black panther Did he say in this? He just saw the Black Panther, like on the wall, but it was closer.
Starting point is 01:58:52 So that wall that was like 20 to 30 feet from them, he saw it like down on the edge, like, oh shit, it's coming at me right now. Jeez. That's crazy. Good stuff. So collecting these stories, man, has all the stories that you've been collecting changed your mindset as to what you once perceived to be either fictional or real? I mean, has your perspectives changed it all by, like,
Starting point is 01:59:19 getting so many stories. Oh, yeah, I can definitely say, definitely, I've always had the interest in this stuff, like, but I have kind of always kind of approached it with a skeptic view. Like, disclaimer, I kind of, I take all these stories as, as they're told to me. So, like, most of the time I could tell when somebody's trying to pull a fast one on me, because the story doesn't make sense with anything military would do. Like, there was a story about a guy. He's like, oh, I saw like these CIA type of people driving blacks and bourbons in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:59:48 I'm like, really, like, you're in one of the most dangerous places in Afghanistan and people are driving black suburbs. Like, this isn't the movies guy. Like, nice one. And I also have read plenty of creepyposses in green text to know, like, yeah, I've read this before. This is on,
Starting point is 02:00:04 this was on no sleep where it was very obvious. It was fiction. So nice one. But for the most part, people that come forward to stories, I do wholeheartedly believe them. And it's definitely changed my perspective on things because it makes me go back and think like, huh, like, you know, some of these places I was at, too,
Starting point is 02:00:22 and we could talk about that later, but like, some of these places I was at, too, and I don't remember, like, there's some weird stuff there for sure. So there's definitely something to it. I haven't had anything too outlandishly crazy that's, like, blown my mind to make me, like, question everything. But I do appreciate members, and I want people to know in the, like, the military communities, like, that have seemed weird things. They can't explain that you're not alone. And, like, there are people that believe you and want to hear your story, you know. So I just hope that that message gets to people and they understand that.
Starting point is 02:00:56 I just hope it's also interesting for everyone else so they can hear these stories. You know, just because, like you said, it's kind of hard for military people to open up to non-military. And I'm hoping that this will be that way so people can have that shared experience and learn from those shared experiences. That's awesome, man. Let the people know what the Instagram is once again. It's tales from the grid square. So at Tails underscore from underscore the underscore grid square. Awesome, man.
Starting point is 02:01:26 People need to go to that Instagram and hit follow and read these stories. I mean, you have tons on there right now. And you said to me, you have, what, like months worth of posts that you haven't even posted yet? Yeah, I think me, if I look at my phone right now, I have enough for. So they come and go. I've been going through them pretty quick. So I think right now, because I try to keep it down to two posts a day, to keep the people, give the people what they want.
Starting point is 02:01:52 I got, let's see, 48, 50, I have 64 stories to still post. That's awesome. The more people that follow, the more people that can submit, that's what I want. I'm not making any money off of this. So this is just kind of like a crazy hobby now that I started. Perfect, man. All right, well, listen, I appreciate you being here for the first segment. And if you're a member, you know what to do.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Head on over to the overtime because there's a whole other conversation waiting there for you. Thanks, Nick. Awesome. Thank you, Tony. Thanks for having me on. Well, that's the show. Everybody, I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy, please share the show with your friends.
Starting point is 02:02:35 I don't care where or how you share the show. Just share the show if you enjoyed it. Thank you very much for being here. Thanks for listening on a weekly basis, friends. And if you remember, head on over to the overtime section right now because there is a whole other conversation waiting for you. and to just let you know we are bringing Nick back on for a third segment this coming Thursday for the members episode because he just had a ton of things to share. And I'm really glad that he was willing to share with me. So go ahead and check out the overtime section and also check out the member show that's coming this Thursday with more of these tales from the Gridswear.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Awakened from the forest in the depths of the abyss. This creature is a paradigm of time lost and time itself. It fears no one. It adheres to no rule that man can create. It forges its own path, and yet its path remains hidden from the world. The sphere of his existence is beyond most comprehension, as it exudes its power quietly but transcendent. It needs no one's approval to exist,
Starting point is 02:03:40 but yet its very existence is sought after by many. It watches. It learns. adapts to the ever-changing environment around it, even as the environment is wrought with corruption. It battles the corruption only when pressed or for the protection of others like it. It is a mirage that few will ever understand. It's a cornucopia of knowledge from an era, long past. It's free.
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