The Confessionals - 416: Alien Ovarian Abduction

Episode Date: February 15, 2022

In Episode 416: Alien Ovarian Abduction, we are joined by Sheera. Some time ago, a listener of The Confessionals sent in a TikTok video featuring Sheera that had gone viral, in which she made the clai...m she had some of her eggs removed from her body during an abduction scenario. She went on to say that, as a result, she has hybrid children. This is not the first time we have encountered this type of claim on the show: in Episode 226: Reptilians and Alien Offspring, we were joined by Dave Emmons, who has similar stories of abduction and sexual interactions resulting in hybrid offspring. Is Sheera another person on a growing list of people who were not only abducted, but also have human-alien children as a result of their abduction?Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/join MAILING ADDRESS:STE 36188 Glocker Way,Pottstown, PA 19465 SPONSORSGET Surfshark: surfshark.deals/confessionals GET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tony GET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionals GET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!! Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.com Get Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5 CONNECT WITH US Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: theconfessionals@theconfessionalspodcast.com Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI TikTok: @theconfessionals Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcast Tony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficial Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcas Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Starting point is 00:00:59 And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. When he got about... I feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two small, gray entities. And they're literally... I'm getting pulled off the bed.
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Starting point is 00:04:01 Legion of Legends. My friends, we have Shira Rejoice coming on today. That's a different name, right? Well, she changed her name legally after the experience she had where she was abducted. They took her eggs and they created hybrid babies. And she talks about it all on today's show. So let's get to Shira right now. All right. Today we got Shira on the show. Shira, how are you? I'm doing great. How are you doing? Doing fine. So to let the audience know kind of how this came together and stuff, you have no idea who I am and it's one of the rare things so many times
Starting point is 00:04:49 I mean most of the time when people contact me for the show or people do contact me for the show I really don't reach out to a ton of people because we have so many people coming to us in the inbox and one of my friends that goes back to you know it's probably in college or just married I mean we're talking like 20 years ago
Starting point is 00:05:09 he started following the show. He was on episode 14 or something like that. Cody. And he texts me your TikTok video and he's like dude, you got to get this lady on. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:25 haven't heard from me while, Cody. How are you doing? You know? And so I checked your TikTok out. It was the one that went viral has like 8 million views and stuff. And I was like, well, she could dance good, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And then I saw that you had your alien abduction videos, a series above that. And so I checked it out. I was like, cool, let's do it. And so I reached out to you and you said you'd come on. And just for all the podcasters out there that listen to my show, all you guys, I know you're out there listening, she chose me to come on. She chose my show to come on over yours. I'm just saying, okay?
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah. We were talking beforehand. And you said that you've actually been reached out to by a lot of podcasters, which is, you know, I guess it's expected when you have a viral video and stuff. Yeah. Let me ask you before we get into some of the other stuff. What was it like to have a viral video go like that on TikTok? Because I'm assuming that was probably your first viral video.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like for that viral, yes. I had a couple other ones, but they weren't in the millions. Okay. If that makes sense. Oh, yeah. So, like, my experience with that was, definitely I feel like a lot different than what I'd expect from it. You know, I just believe that my personal TikTok was put on the wrong side of TikTok.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It was just like, I mean, it was kind of like a spiraling moment for me, for sure, a lot of like questioning myself and questioning reality and all of that, you know, was coming into play for me. And yeah, like now I'm just like living my life. And I mean, I'm still going through the process of it because it was very, you know, disheartening for me to see all the horrible things people were saying to me. but I'm slowly but surely pulling myself out of that kind of dark hole right now and just, you know, going with the flow at this point because it was pretty intense.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It was a pretty intense thing to happen. And I was very intrigued by it, but also kind of like in my shell about it too. Yeah. You know, I think when you post something like that, you know, as a content creator, you post things and I've never had anything go viral in the millions like that. I had one show, I think 2019. It was episode 122. That went viral in the sense of downloads where I had like a hundred, like almost 100,000 downloads in a week. And by far the biggest show I've ever done. But like you don't post things thinking this is going viral. You know? So, like, you don't have that mental preparation going into something like that. And then it goes viral. And you have the people coming on that, you know, yeah, there's people that love it that, you know, love you or whatever. But then there's the people who hate it and, you know, don't believe you and they're nasty about it. And that that's something that I think anybody who creates content has to come across at some point on some level. And years ago, I heard, I know you said you love Joe Rogan. I heard Joe Rogan talking about this years ago. go in the sense that he just posts stuff on his social media and he walks away from it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Now, granted, he can do that, you know, like he's, he doesn't need to read the comments. He doesn't need to engage his audience because he's Joe Rogan, you know? Yeah. But it did kind of awaken this thing in me where I was like, I don't need to hawk my comments all the time and expose myself to the negativity that's in there all the time. and and over time I started doing things strategically. And one of the things for me was to separate myself from Facebook because it got to be really, of all my social medias, Facebook got to be really toxic.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And in the sense that the negative one, two, three liners that I was getting hit with a day were sticking in my head to the point where I was like ready to quit the show. I was like, if people don't like me, then why am I doing this? And then it kind of, you wake up out of that and you're like, wait a second, there's a lot of people that like me. It's just these people are the loudest. Like the, the normal people who, you know, are saying they, they don't go running to you just to say, I love you. But the ones that have maybe a few screws loose upstairs, they're the ones that like, for some reason, think it's great use of their time to just come at somebody who they've never met before in their life, complete stranger and say how much they hate you. It's like, that's not normal, you know? So. Yeah. But so I can imagine what it's like having, you know, eight million views on a video and reading those comments sections. Did you have to turn that off eventually? It's just like I'm done with this.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I ended up turning it off like a week ago. I was, you know, yeah, like a week ago. I mean, I posted it, I think about a month ago now, maybe. Okay. But I was just tired of like getting notifications, like, consistent notifications and it's just tons of comments comments comments comments and most of them are very negative. Really? Okay. Yeah, most of them are like I mean, there are a lot of people who are agreeing with me who are who see me and who have had very similar experiences. But you're so right.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Like I had to like just turn them off and just go about my day because I was just sitting there like reading all them, you know, because that's never happened to me before. So here I am, I'm reading everything, allowing that negative energy to kind of like disrupt my org field and allow me to like, I literally stopped exercising, like for that whole three weeks. I stopped meditating. I stopped doing personal things for me. And I was just glued to my phone. And then, you know, like, that's when I just really realized that I was really letting this affect me on not only an emotional level, but like a spiritual level, an energetic level, even a physical level, like even talking about it, like I could feel that kind of, I mean, it's kind of traumatic in a way. I could kind of
Starting point is 00:12:18 feel that in my body by just like shaking a little bit, just talking about it because I was so ingrained into it. And I think like you're so right about like, you know, Joe Rogan, he can do that all he wants because he's experienced it, you know, like for me, this is my first time experiencing it.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Here I am doing exactly what he's saying not to do, but now I'm learning to just not pay attention at all because of my experience with it. So like all comes together in that way.
Starting point is 00:12:54 that makes sense. For sure. And so, I mean, so one of the things that I learned to do, and we're going to get to your story here. I just want the people to kind of hear the kind of background of how this all kind of affects people on a person level as, you know, two content creators here. One thing that I learned is that, because I'm a personable person in the sense that I like engaging with people who like me, but I don't like engaging with people who don't like me. And I have a very short fuse for that, too. Maybe I should try meditation. But I'm an East Coast guy, so it's just kind of like, but like it's one of those things where in order to engage with the people who in the comment sections who are just nothing but love and stuff,
Starting point is 00:13:35 you're going to come across the idiots. And in those moments, it was very hard for me to just ignore it, especially when they're saying something that just is wrong. Like, I'm fine if you don't like the show, but if you don't like the show and you're saying something, that's just not true. Like, I'm just like, I take offense to it because it's like if you if you spend five years and that's how long I've been building the show if you spend five years building a house from the ground up you laid the foundation everything and it's finally done and then you invite everybody in the neighborhood all your new neighbors into the house for a barbecue and then one guy comes in and he's like
Starting point is 00:14:13 this place sucks and you didn't you didn't do this over here at all right and it's like oh whoa whoa well first of all you're in my house get out you know and second of all you're wrong because I know what I did here and you're going to argue about it and stuff. And it's just like, it's not worth the time. And so what I started doing is I'm getting really good at just blocking people. And like, if you irritate me, I block you. And a couple of times people are like, why'd you block me? I'm like, because you irritated me. And they're like, I didn't mean it like that. I was like, oh, I'll unblock you. But like, it's hard sometimes when you're reading in just the text. You don't hear the tone of the voice. You don't hear the sarcasm or whatever like that.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And I just, I was just like, I just got at a point where if you don't, like me, then I'm going to escort you out of my house. And that's just the way I do it. And so, anyways, let me talk to you about another thing here before we get into your experience. And that is your name. Now, you, in the one video that I was watching, you had said that you are, you're in the process of changing your name. And this is actually a recent new development for you in your life, what this year you said, right? Yes. So, so why the name changed? what's the whole point behind it? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Ever since that experience that I had, it was about like, I want to say, because it's almost 2022, like four years ago now, but ever since that happened to me, I, like, became a completely different person. Like, on every level you can even imagine. And going by my original name, which was Bailey Heath, it just wasn't cutting it for me anymore. Like, that wasn't who I was. I didn't feel connected to that name anymore. I felt like I felt like I wanted to change my name to Shira for like probably about three years until I actually did it.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But I was always afraid of the backlash I would get for that too because, you know, all your home. hometown folks know you as Bailey, but now you're Shira. Like, now she's the crazy girl or whatever. And I've already was the crazy girl growing up. So, I didn't, I didn't realize that you're changing your entire name. Oh, yeah. So everything's changed. Everything, everything. So my middle name, so my full name was Bailey, Aaron Heath before I changed it to Shira, Lumira, Rejure. rejoice. And it all just kind of came together for me, like in bits and pieces. Like Lumira, I have no idea where that came from. The rejoice part, I'm like super into being joyful and happy and always like enthusiastic and all of that kind of stuff. So it was like, yes, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:17:12 have that as my last name. Kira is like connected to Shira, if you know what I'm talking about. The goddess of power or whatever. Not the goddess of power. The princess of power. I was literally watching an anime show in like this show called Shira, which has been since back in like the 80s. Oh yeah, the cartoon. Yeah, the cartoon. Well, they came out with a new anime series.
Starting point is 00:17:42 In her like in the life she had like just it really resonated with me and who I was. And so I took my original name, Bailey, it had two E's at the end. And I put it as Shira, but with two E's instead of like Shira, you know. So just to kind of make it my own, if that makes sense. I mean, that sounds crazy, but like that's just what I like felt in my heart, in my intuition that that was right for me. And then when I decided to officially change my name, I was seeing like a very, like psychic spiritual counselor and she was doing a little check on me. I forgot exactly what it was
Starting point is 00:18:29 called, but she was, my fingers were like, my pointer finger and my thumb were together and she had her fingers in between them. And she was asking me like questions because she's trying to get rid of old belief systems that are ingrained in my body. And, you know, she was asking me like water is blue. And like my fingers came out and it was yes. So in my belief systems, I believe it's blue, but it's actually clear, you know. And so she started asking more and more questions until she got to the point where she asked me, my name is Bailey. And then she did it and it wouldn't open. It was no.
Starting point is 00:19:06 She's like, oh, wow, that's interesting. I'm like, I knew it. Like I knew my name wasn't Bailey like this whole time. I knew it and it just all came like trickling down and like from there on, which was like in March earlier this year, like I was telling you. I decided to change the Shira and we asked is my name Shira and it was yes. So I just felt like it was a calling for me to change my name and go about my life in a completely different way than I used to and just change everything. Yeah, that's about what I can say. What are your family members say about it?
Starting point is 00:19:49 Like, do your parents care or anything like that? I mean, they're actually pretty supportive of it. Like, they're, they're, it's hard for them, you know, because they, they knew me as Bailey. Like my dad, he'll always be like, Bailey, Shira, Bailey, Shira, like, always like correcting himself, correcting himself. So they're, they're trying, you know. I call my daughter, my son. son half the time. So it would be awful for me. I mean, like, literally, yeah. Yeah, I mean, my daughter's name is Gemma. My son's name's Ben. And when I'm looking at her, I'm like, Ben,
Starting point is 00:20:23 Gemma, you know, it's just a kid. Daddy doesn't think too good. Now, I've had friends actually who changed their names in childhood. I actually had this one girl that lived in my neighborhood who went from Amber to Brittany. It was like it was a deal that she made. It's so weird. She, her, her mom married a guy who wanted to adopt her. And she's like, only if I can change my first name too. So they're like, fine. Oh my gosh. But then there's other people who do the name changing for personal reasons.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like just recently, the one NBA player, Ennis Canter, changed his name to Ennis Canter freedom. So his last name is now Freedom. He plays for a boss in Celtics. and he's really upsetting people like LeBron James with things that he's saying, which I like. Yeah. Yeah. So LeBron, go away.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah, literally. I can't. Drives your nuts. But then there's like, you know, back in the day, Ron Artex changed his name to Meta World Peace. And I always thought that was funny because he was known for fighting in Detroit, the fans and punching fans in the face and stuff. is, you know, quite a tune change there, Ron, or meta. But, but yeah, so, I mean, it's something that I think more often than not people are doing on a very deep personal, motivated reason.
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Starting point is 00:25:10 time limit here like TikTok. So feel free to expound on things. But in the TikTok, you mentioned about, I think you said something like your theoretical abduction or something like that in the sense that, Like, it seemed like to me you were hesitant to call it an abduction because maybe you were trying to kind of piece it together. So just walk us into this experience. In 2018, something happens to you. Where were you? What was going on?
Starting point is 00:25:33 And tell us what happened. Okay. So, 2018, the Bailey, the person I was before, I was in college. I was an addict as well. addicted to smoking, not cigarettes, but like jewels at the time because that was the thing to do. And drinking and just being in the party scene and being kind of like a regular, typical, socially constructed human being in society. And always questioning who I was and like, what am I doing here on this planet? Like that's always been a thing for me throughout my entire life.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But when I was like coming home one day and it was just like a regular day. But like the energy was a little bit weird from just what I was feeling in general that day because I can remember that day like so vividly. So I just got to the point where I decided that I'm going to take a nap, you know, and just like let myself loose and free. Because at that point, I was like feeling like I'm going to drop out of college, you know, not do what I want to do with my life, what I want to do, quotation marks, because it's not really what I wanted to do. but I decided that I was just going to take a nap and I was laying face up. And a lot of folks think that I was on drugs or something when this happened. And I wasn't. I was actually completely sober that day.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And I was taking the nap. Then I guess what had happened was an instant like, which folks are saying the whole sleep paralysis thing, they believe that it could be that, which whatever, whatever they want to believe. But I came into the space of like being frozen, completely frozen.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Like I couldn't move at all. And I was just feeling like I couldn't like really grasp reality either. And then out of nowhere, my door like just flings open and this figure it was like a holographic shadow figure person and it was like gray it didn't have a face like it it didn't have like it had the arms and legs but it didn't have fingers or like toes or anything it was literally like a silhouette or something I guess you could say and um It was very, you know, it all happened so fast. So I'm like trying to really grasp what happened.
Starting point is 00:28:41 But it came to me. But then my mind for some reason was telling me, just let them take you. Just let them take you. Just let them take you over and over and over and over again. I don't even know if that was my thoughts telling me to do that. I have no idea. but it was over and over and over again. And then the being, it took me.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And I instantly like jolted. So I'm in the same condo that this happened in still to this day. I came from the couch, which is over there to right where I'm at actually right now. And I was laying like in a supine position, but I was levitating. and I was feeling what it felt like to legitimately levitate. And it was a very blissful experience. Like it wasn't scary. It wasn't like insane or like I got taken into a ship.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I think that's why I'm saying abduction because I'm not, I wasn't necessarily abducted, but I was taken in a sense that I don't know if I astral traveled. I don't know if I like if it was actually like here in this space like but it was here from what I remember. And I was when they took me, I was laying in the supine position. My legs were like downward. So it was kind of like something was like carrying me like this and like upward. And I just see like the being is like my legs are open and it's doing something. something to me, but I don't know what it's doing. And like my body is moving in this like very like, I don't even know how to describe it. Like like I just felt tingly. Everything was tingly. Like everything.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And it wasn't hurting me. It was actually very joyful and very pleasant. But I remember in my mind, I was telling myself that I'm always going to remember this. I'm always going to remember this. I'm always going to remember this over and over and over and over again. Because I didn't want to forget what was going on because it was very insane in a sense that it wasn't insane because it was very interesting. But yeah. And then I was, they just took like this all happened within like, I'm not even kidding, probably within like a minute or two. Like it wasn't like I was taken for five days or abducted for a year and came back to the planet.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Like it was more so like they came. They took what they needed for me and then they left. And when I was laying there, I was floating around after they left still, like still floating. And just kind of like looking around the house like, whoa, this is really cool. And then all of a sudden I woke up and like I'm on the couch still. So I don't know like if it was an out of body experience. I don't know. But for me personally, like it was very real.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And it was very much like ingrained in my like body and remembering of everything that happened. And just being able to clearly see it. visualize it exactly how it was and it just it was very interesting so like that was my experience and I mean if I could go into more detail I really could but or I but it's like I can't because it was only like within one minute or two and like that's primarily the things that I really remember from it if that makes sense like so Yeah. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:55 So yeah, the point of like calling it an alien abduction is just the easy way for folks to understand if that makes sense. Because obviously I wanted to get my story out there because I was tired of holding it in. I did not expect that it would go this viral on any platform at all. but yeah ever since then my whole life changed and I looked at the world completely different with a completely different eyes um everything around me was like almost fake in a way if that makes sense um and slowly but surely I've gotten out of that concept of reality like I obviously still believe it in that sense but it doesn't engulf who I am anymore I was in isolation for probably two years after that happened to me.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I was, my whole body started to heal itself, but it started to come out through like cystic acne. And I really, really started to like go deep within who I was. And I started learning about like astrology and like stuff that's unknown and like just a bunch of Oracle stuff. And it it all made sense to me. And so I dropped out of college, obviously. So there's that. But yeah, that's like, I mean, I, the way I put it on TikTok was very much exactly what happened to me. And the way I went about it, it's very much the same way.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And there's nothing really more or less that I could say, if that makes sense. Sure. Yeah. First of all, I would say, good for you, dropping out of college. Yeah. I think so many people, I wasted more than four years of college and I didn't even get a degree. And I went. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And look at me now. So. Look at you. No, but. And I totally understand how you feel about the idea that, you know, it's like too many experience and this is what you remember. Now, let's backtrack here to the sleep paralysis idea. Now, you said, sleep paralysis, if you want to call it that.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I'm assuming you've heard people calling it that in the comment section or whatever. Do you feel like it was sleep paralysis? And do you understand? All right. So do you understand, and this is not insulting at all. I'm just asking because I don't know. Do you understand that there's a sleep paralysis that the science world acknowledges is real? and then there's the sleep paralysis of the paranormal
Starting point is 00:35:42 that people have experiences with legit entities during sleep paralysis. I did not know that there was a difference there. Yeah. I think, I just want to say, I think that there's a difference in the sense of experience. So science says, yes, sleep paralysis is real.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I have a family member who has sleep paralysis. Nothing, never seen anything crazy. But we've had a lot of people on the show saying their experiences start, with being paralyzed in their bed. And so I'm just saying like, at least for me and on my show, when I talk about this stuff, like I typically, I'm very comfortable calling things sleep paralysis and then having paranormal experiences follow that sleep paralysis.
Starting point is 00:36:27 But go ahead. Yeah. I like, it's so hard for me to just call it sleep paralysis because my entire life changed. So that's why it's like hard for me to to take these concepts of science, which science is great, you know. But I think a lot of folks take sleep paralysis and they just label it that way because they can't challenge their minds to think outward of themselves in their own concepts of reality or their perceptions of how life should be. And they just label people, label, label, label, label, label, like, oh, was this. Oh, it was that. Oh, it was this. And so that was like my hard time with, with it being like called sleep paralysis or people saying I'm schizophrenic or, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:23 claiming I'm mentally ill, stuff like that. And really it's, for me, was very real. So yeah, essentially it could be what you're talking about. The sleep paralysis and entities come and this and that and all of that. But I just, I don't know why, like, why my eggs would have been taken or, that's something, that's something you, you forgot to mention when you were telling your story too I was going to bring up. Yeah, yeah. Well, at that time, I did not know what they were doing to me. Sure. So everything that they were doing to me, I found out later on eventually down the room. So literally, literally this year in July, I, so I work as a massage therapist and I work in a neuromodulatory center. And this shaman man came and he instantly, it was like instantly
Starting point is 00:38:30 like I knew him. Like we started talking to each other. And he, he actually, as a daughter that was born on the same day as me, but she was a year before me. And it just all connected there. But as soon as I like put my hands on him, he was like, you have three hybrid babies. And I was like, what? You know, like, I don't know what he's talking about. And he's like, yeah, you have three hybrid babies. And three of your eggs were taken. And I was like, from there, I was like, oh my God, like this all makes sense now. Everything makes sense. Like putting the pieces together and like with me getting, I got an ultrasound earlier that year because I wanted to see if I had PCOS or if I had like endometriosis or something like that because of my cystic acne.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And just in general, I wanted to see if I was fertile like every woman does. I have a fiance now. like, you know, we want to have children and I wanted to go about like seeing what I can do. And, you know, the ultrasound came back negative. Um, so I didn't have any of that, but I had thick adhesions on my left ovary. And, um, so scarring is what they would say it is. And she said it was scarring. And I'm like, and she didn't tell me why I had the scarring or anything either. But when I was getting the ultrasound, sound, the woman had asked me if I had ever had my eggs removed. And I was like, no. And that was the end of that conversation. But it all came into play when the shaman told me later in this year that I had three eggs taken and I have three hybrid children. And I'm like, oh my God. Like that's why that tech or whatever asked me if I ever had my eggs removed. And then, the scarring and then all of it just came into play for me.
Starting point is 00:40:35 So, um, but since, since then, I actually recently had talked to my, um, OBGYN over the phone. She completely believes me. Um, she's actually said that she's heard like similar stories to mine. So she's come across other women that have your OBG. Really? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So she's come across. other woman that have had experiences kind of similar to mine. And she doesn't believe I'm delusional, nothing like that. But she says, I can't claim that my scarring is proof or anything like that because, you know, it could be from a ruptured cyst or what she was saying was you can have an STD that you never knew of and it could scar you or something like that. But she was just saying that I can't claim that it was proof, but that she believes me because she, other women have told her similar things in, and not like tons of women,
Starting point is 00:41:44 but she was saying like a few other women have said similar things to her. So that makes me, first of all, if we have an OBGYN that listens to the show, please contact me if you've heard this stuff too because it makes me wonder, is this something that happens fairly regular regular to women that and they go to their doctors and they're like, I know you're going to think I'm crazy. And over time, the doctor's like, you know what? I don't think you're crazy. Just like with my show, I mean, I've heard so many people share stories and it's just like, listen, I'm the last person to call somebody crazy. I've heard a lot of crazy stuff in this world. The world is bananas. Now, but it also makes me wonder if this is a regional thing, you being in Arizona, is there something going on? in Arizona that, you know, so I'd be interested if there's other doctors around your doctor
Starting point is 00:42:33 that have heard similar claims. That's very interesting. That's something that I'm not going to explore more because I'm not going to call lady doctors and say, hey. Yeah. Are you getting weird reports from your patients about, you know, their eggs being removed by interdimensional beings? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 You know, like I don't mind being called crazy. but I don't want to walk into that situation either. So. Yeah. But, you know, that's, that's very interesting. And along the lines of what happened to you. So do you, so let's just put the abduction in, you know, quotations. It's just like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Yeah, sure, the abduction. You weren't taken anywhere as far as you can remember. You were taken, you know, across the room maybe or something like that. But you weren't taken out of, out of there. and the being that you saw to begin this whole thing is the one that was removing the eggs, right? Yes. So when you said that you were almost like you're being carried across the room, if that's true, then there will be at least two entities.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You just didn't see the other one. Yeah. I believe there is more than one. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure, like, I'm trying to go back into it. I just remember that one, just primary, like, one that was like coming straight for me and it was like instant taken and boom and then done but that could be a very like it could be that so another one was holding me up or something and I just didn't see but there's also there's also this concept that we we often naturally gravitate away
Starting point is 00:44:20 which is we don't understand nearly as much as we'd like to understand about how all this stuff works So is it that it was just one entity being able to do things that we just can't comprehend as far as being able to move you towards it and things like that. Very possible. This whole thing is so far out there in the sense that this shouldn't be normal. This shouldn't be something that is possible. But yet it happened. So we got to stop trying to define things within our own understanding to begin with. And so maybe it was just one entity. Maybe there was three, four, who knows. It's just we got to remain open-minded. with this stuff. And that takes me back to the sleep paralysis. So we, we look at sleep paralysis one way scientifically. Yeah. But when we described, when we described sleep paralysis with a paranormal experience, we tend to call it sleep paralysis because that's how we don't know how is to describe it. Yeah. Maybe these entities are bringing on the paralyization. that it's not sleep paralysis. Like from our scientific definition, it's not.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And maybe if you're talking to the entity, it's like, yeah, I understand it looks like sleep paralysis, but what I'm doing is not sleep paralysis. You know what I mean? It's something like that. But it's very interesting to think about how what we perceive as reality isn't the case. And then when you go down that road of, okay, so what is reality? that hole just keeps going down. I mean, it's a never-ending hole. And so these eggs are removed from you. And you firmly believe that, right? Yes, yes. My intuition tells me that for,
Starting point is 00:46:11 like, it all clicked. It all made sense. It all, like, I never knew what they were doing to me before. And here I am now with this new understanding of it. But in my intuition, and yes, I do believe that it is true. Okay. And that's fine. I mean, like I said to you before we were recording it, maybe I said it on the recording. Like, it's all perspective, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:37 And so the audience, it's the audience's job to walk away from these conversations and ask themselves, what do I believe? What am I willing to swallow today? You know? Yeah. But back to this idea of the three eggs being taken, right?
Starting point is 00:46:53 And you having three hybrid. children. Knowing what you experienced with that entity and what you saw, do you get the sense that this is an extraterrestrial or more interdimensional? I don't know. You got to know. You have to know. You have to bring the answers. I mean, this is a thing. Like, at this point in my mind, like, there's so many different ideas or concepts that it plague my mind. But like, what really sticks out for me is like in what I feel like I would go with more is a lot of folks are saying that it's the grays. I don't know if you've ever heard of those people. They're extraterrestrial, you know, but maybe they're living interdimensionally. Who knows? Like there's so many things I could
Starting point is 00:47:48 say. Some people are like, it's the government. Like they're taking your eggs. Like, who knows what they're harvesting your organs or whatever. I mean, who knows? That could be true too, but I really don't believe it. Like, and it may be in an alternate reality, that's true. But in my reality, I believe it was me being taken by extraterrestrial beings. Specifically, they could have been gray. Like, well, they are gray, but they could have been the grays.
Starting point is 00:48:20 But I wouldn't know, like, you can't just go up to people and be like, hey, do you know what the grays look like? So I can know if they took me or if that was something. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. So that's resonated most with me in what had happened. Okay. And for our last sponsor today, we got Hello Fresh.
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Starting point is 00:51:16 It's a great deal. And you guys should take advantage of it if you have not already right now. Go to hellofresh.com slash confessional 16. I would say that it has been theorized very minimally in the sense of I think you could go you could go down a very dark hole with this conversation but on the surface at the very very bare minimum people have theorized that our government works with extraterrestrial and and there's a whole thing with that I mean like if you ever if you ever want to look into it people there are are a lot of people out there that claim that they're abducted. They're put into a secret space work program. And when they're brought back, they're brought back in time of when they were taken. And they're gone for years at a time. It's very, it's very fascinating. But I would say that the idea of grays in the sense of extraterrestrial, I'm not saying it's not possible,
Starting point is 00:52:26 but I am saying for me personally hearing your story and what you described, that seemed like something that was more, I want to say interdimensional, but that's not the right word, maybe even spiritual in the sense that it didn't seem like this thing. Like, do you get the sense that it needed to eat? The thing that you saw needed to have food and air and things like that? No, no. Right. It didn't need to have any of that. And so I'm throwing this out there to you. This might be a new concept.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It's certainly a concept that is really striking me as recently. Not long ago, I've come across a story that has blown my brains out. It's insane. And I'm working on this whole thing. But I don't think it's that hard of a concept to fathom with the things that I've been coming to understand. that one, I know that there are parallel universes that operate around us. We know that from the goofy guy with the podcast that theorizes about the stuff to the scientists that are leading scientists in the world today saying that they do dabble in parallel universes.
Starting point is 00:53:44 We know that there's, I don't know if you ever heard of CERN, but CERN is a, all right. So the things that they're doing there is dabbling with parallel universes. Yeah. And so what is in the parallel universe? And clearly it seems to me that whatever's there has the ability to access us more than we can access it. And with some of the things that I've been hearing, I don't think that it's just a spiritual realm. And I don't know if I've ever said this on my show before yet. I know it's hard for people to understand and to swallow, but because we want to believe that
Starting point is 00:54:27 these paranormal experiences are literally more on a paranormal spiritual realm than than a physical. Like, but I think it's both. And I think that these entities that we want to call entities that are coming through these portals or whatever, however they're accessing our time and space, we want to believe is more on a spiritual level that they can just disappear and they're gone. And that's true. But I think that there's a physical aspect here. So when you're telling me that the shaman says that you have three hybrid babies, that makes a lot of sense to me. And in the future, I really hope that people understand where I'm coming from when I say that. When I say that makes a lot of
Starting point is 00:55:11 sense to me. I can't talk a whole lot about it right now. But I think it's very possible. and so I I for me personally hearing your story I'm less inclined to feel like these were beings from a far off galaxy that zoomed here because they heard they heard they knew you were going to change your name to shira and they're like yeah let's get shira you know I think this was something actually probably more sinister to be honest with you and I so that's how I feel and I know you said that it was more of a good positive experience that you felt like but do you feel like in a sense violated? I mean, I always, when I just, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, I do. I didn't like, I didn't feel in control of that situation at all. Like, there's so, like, everything you're talking about right now, it all makes mathematical sense, like in that scientific reality with CERN and all that. Like, I forgot the kid, one of the smartest kids in the world. and I think his name is like Logan something.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And he explains the Mandala effect. And he like explains CERN and he explains how like something like happened that triggered us into a alternate reality or this and that and blah, blah, blah. So I do believe that too. I believe like we are if I would say my belief is is we are the universe like experiencing itself through every different possible perception you could ever imagine. And every different life you could ever imagine. Like all of us are experiencing different ways of being because it's like the universe or whatever is gathering data on our experiences or something. So when you say it could be sinister, like before you have to understand, I didn't believe it was very spiritual until probably about like two years ago. Before when I was in that two years of solitude, like that shit was crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Like it was it wasn't me thinking like it was very spiritual in that way of like, you know, obviously I'm in light more enlightened now as people would say or like I've completely changed in a very spiritual way because something very unknown happened to me. But yeah, you can dabble it back into the parallel universe theories and all of that stuff and kind of really make it make sense in that way because I do believe that the government does work with extraterrestrials. I believe they are among us. I can't tell you how many people that, like, I've worked on personally, where I feel their
Starting point is 00:57:55 body and I know they're not human. Like, I know they're not entirely human. The way I could see it is, I don't know if you heard of like reptilians or stuff like that. Absolutely. I've met people where you can clearly tell that they are because they have like a, they have like slit in their eye, but it's not noticeable. Really? It's only noticeable in a certain kind of light.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And when I work on these people, it's like they're empty. Like, it's like not, I don't know how to explain it. It's not human. Like, their stomachs aren't grumbling. Like, they're, you know, because a lot of the work I do is based in trauma and trauma relief. And a lot of release I could tell is through like size of release or Twitter. or like gurgling and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:58:49 But every time I feel them, they're just empty. So I do believe they live among us. And I do believe that they, they live parallel. Like we can't see them at all. Like they can see us. They can do whatever they want with us. They can make freaking half human, human children and be starting another planet or who knows what.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And for all I know, that's what they are doing. I think when I think of it, like in a spiritual sense and why I say I live in a spiritual reality is because ever since that experience, I have become a very spiritual person. Before that, I was not spiritual at all. I was very like ingrained in mainstream media, listening to freaking pop music all the damn time, you know, stuff that's consistently like making my consciousness not evolve, like I'm just staying stuck and stuff like that. So, So yeah, I agree that that could be the case. Like it could be sinister.
Starting point is 00:59:49 It could have been harvesting organs, whatever they were doing. I think I believe I still have my organs. I haven't checked. Let's hope that I still have it. But I believe I do. But from what I know is it could be the grays are working with the government and they're taking the children. And who the frick knows what they're doing with the kids. these days, you know?
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah, it's disgusting. Over 400,000 children go missing in our country a year. Over 400,000, just our country. That doesn't seem very natural. No. So we won't go down that road because I don't want to get the show to taking off YouTube
Starting point is 01:00:32 or anything else like that. No, I know, I know. But, no, I totally hear what you're saying. And I want to float this out there. I'm not even saying I believe this, okay? I want to stress this to you in the audience. I am not saying what I'm about to say that I believe this about Shira,
Starting point is 01:00:53 but I am going to say this. Okay. There are people in this world who have certain blood types. And if you're talking to me about the reptilians and you probably heard about the blood type stuff and reptilians looking for certain blood types, there are people who, there's this idea that goes around that, let me ask you this. Have you ever heard of the Nephilim?
Starting point is 01:01:21 No. Okay. So you're talking to somebody who firmly believes that these things at least were real, if not real a day, and I do believe they're real today. The Nephilim stem back to biblical times. And the first understanding of the nephalum comes from, well, general understanding is in the sense, of people coming to understand that there's a word, Nephilim. It was in the book of Genesis, chapter six, verse four. And it's talking about how the fallen angels fell from heaven. They had sex with women on earth. And their offspring were Nephlam, hybrid beings. And these beings grew to be giants. If you heard of David and Goliath, Goliath was a Nephilim. He is probably the own, in your mainstream Christianity, he is like the only giant that Christians want to acknowledge is in the Bible. But there are a lot of giants in the Bible if you read through it. And then when you talk
Starting point is 01:02:24 about an older book called the book of Enoch, it talks about the Nephilim in much more detail. And the first book of Enoch's, every time I say the book of Enoch, people are like, well, which one? I'm like, listen, you're not going to outsmart me on this. It's the first book. Okay. Let's stop asking elementary questions, guys. Okay? You know what book I'm talking about. So the first book of Enoch talks more in detail about the Nephilim and what happened. And one of the this, this whole thing is there was this effort to disrupt the human DNA lineage. And people in Christianity will say that they believe, at least the ones I believe that this is even real because most Christians don't believe the Bible, which is crazy. Um, so the, what they believe, though, is that, uh, the, the, this, this effort was to disrupt the DNA human line for the coming Messiah of Jesus. And, and so what we do know, though, is that in, in the Bible, it says that this happened before the flood of Noah, but then we have the flood of Noah where everything was supposed to be killed, right? Uh, but then, uh, but then,
Starting point is 01:03:41 after the flood of Noah, it talks about how there's nephalom in certain areas of the land. And it's like, so how did they survive? And so a lot of people have different theories and thoughts on it. But then there's this idea that maybe they went interdimensional because of their fathers are fallen angels, spiritual beings. Can they do spiritual things like that? And so I bring it all the back to you because I've been talking to some people who have been told that they have nephalum DNA in them. And it just makes me wonder, could you have nephalum DNA? And that's why they were trying to get your eggs. Look, see how I brought that all full circle there? I'm not saying, I believe it. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Hey, that could be very true, though. Like,
Starting point is 01:04:31 anything can be true. Um, I, to be honest, I do not know my. blood type. So I haven't looked into that, but it's funny that you say the book of Enoch because the shaman also mentioned that to me when he was talking with me. And I haven't read the book of Enoch or anything in that way. And I've heard about it, though. And it all makes sense. And there's this one guy really, really look up to his name is Graham Hancock. I don't know if you know who that is. Yeah. But he's like a renowned archaeologist, you know, considered to be crazy until all of this stuff he, you know, was saying was actually true. And he talks about the flood of Noah or whatever.
Starting point is 01:05:19 And he says that there's actual, like, evidence in the earth that that happened. I'm not exactly sure, like, like, it's like with the waves or something, but they have the evidence of that happening. So, I mean, all of that, like, ancient history all comes into play. I mean, we all know Christopher Columbus and freaking found America. Like, what's the deal? Like, like, he believes that we in America are sitting on very, very rich, like, information. And, you know, they don't allow people to really dig in America and, you know, find what's underneath. And I think there's a really big reason for that. And he does too. And
Starting point is 01:06:11 and where was I going with this? Just yeah, in general, I listened to a lot of what he has to say because he's very intelligent. And I met him in person actually in Sedona. Oh, cool. And I got to see his whole concept in the way he thinks. And he believes all of our souls like ascend to the belt of Orion, like the constellation of Orion and like goes through these tests and then comes back to Earth. And just from all the information he's gathered, like, of course I'm going to listen to him. You know, he's a smart man. Like, you know, so. So yeah, just essentially like what you're saying, I can understand because it makes sense from what I've heard in my life. And I mean, obviously, I don't know that much about it. But I really want to look at.
Starting point is 01:07:04 into this and and see maybe I am one of those little Mephylin, whatever the hell is there. I mean, like, so here's the thing. Like, it all depends, like, on, on where you come from in your, like, theological perspectives. Like, one would say, you better hope you're not. Yeah, right. It's like, whoa, yeah, that's crazy. But it's just something that I figure I float out there. Now, what does shaman say about Enoch? Do you remember? Just like the giants, He was talking to me about the giants. He didn't really get very much into detail. He believes that that is the, like, you know how everybody believes about Bible is truth?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah. He believes, like the Enoch, the book of Enoch is the absolute truth to all of life and that I should read it. And, you know, but yada, yada, yada. We didn't get into it because I'm working on him. And during work, we have to be silent. but just from what he was saying, it all, like, it makes sense, if that makes sense. Absolutely. I mean, I have a book of Enoch on the shelf behind me, and I believe the book of Enoch.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And some of the writers in the New Testament, they quoted the book of Enoch in their writing. So you know that the writers of the New Testament read the book Enoch, and they thought enough of it to put it in the Bible. So I'm a big proponent of Enoch. And I was talking to a scholar. I would say about three weeks ago, I was texting with him. And I asked him about the idea of the bloodline, the Nephilim DNA still being in humans. And I said, I asked him, I said, listen, do you think that this is a legit possibility? And he just came back right away.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Absolutely. And I was like, dang, okay? And he kind of expounded. on that and stuff, but one of the things he said to me, and this is where people might get lost. They're like, oh, my gosh, what kind of scholar is he? He's probably a conspiracy theorist. But he said, he said, stay away from 23 and me and the ancestry DNA collecting, because he's like, what they're doing, you know, what they're saying they're doing stuff. But one of the things that they are doing, he said, is they're looking for the Nephilim DNA. And so, uh, that's why I've
Starting point is 01:09:26 hesitated to do it. Right? So, my mom got. be one of those and I was like hell the fuck no so I like my my wife did it years ago and I was like what are you doing you know I think what are you doing and now when I told her what he said to me stuff she's like oh crap I'm like well nothing's really happened so you're probably you're probably cleared I imagine if you have nephalum DNA you might start having some more paranormal experiences in your life once you send that sample kit in you know yeah no that makes sense all of a sudden you're having multiple experiences and the abductions and all of a sudden you're finding yourselves and, you know, other parallel universes and stuff, that would suck. But it depends on the
Starting point is 01:10:10 experience, I guess. I mean, maybe some people want to, maybe if you have Nephilim DNA, there's like, this is part of you that's just like, yes, and you just accept it and you just go see, and you said it was pleasurable, which means bang, I just solved the case. You got Nephlim DNA in you. And that's why you liked it. Hey, I don't know, I don't know if I'm that special. How tall are you? I'm 5-2. Oh, never mind. You know, you know me?
Starting point is 01:10:34 I ain't Nathlim, like. No, no. I'm trying to take my DNA to make a Nephylum or something like. Yeah, you're definitely not, you're not meeting the qualifications there. Okay, so let me ask you this. Did you have any idea or any thoughts on trying to do regressive therapy at all? Regressive therapy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:56 You don't know what that is. No. Okay. it's basically and the listeners they're going to say he's got it wrong generally speaking i'm not i've never done it myself uh but people who are abductive abducted they look to find somebody who will do regressive therapy with them where they go underneath hypnosis and they oh that's what it's called yes yeah okay so like i mean a lot of people say it helps a lot it works a lot if you're the type of person that can be hypnotized uh but
Starting point is 01:11:28 then there's people out there that are like they don't want to do it because they don't want to remember it. Now, maybe that's an option for you if you wanted to remember more. Maybe it was more than two minutes and you're just remembering the two minutes. Like it's in your, in your mind's eye, you're remembering a time span. You're like, this is how long it was. Maybe it was much longer, you know, and more complex and you're just not remembering it all. And that's where the regressive therapy would come in at. Yeah. No, that makes sense. I've definitely thought about doing that because for me like I wouldn't be afraid of doing it now because of just the way that I think in general is so like I'm like I'm so open to anything so um I would definitely consider doing it and just
Starting point is 01:12:10 seeing like if there is anything I'm missing and I'm a thousand percent sure there is but just from what I remember is is what I'm telling me but if I can remember more that'd be great the more the Marrier. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Because, I mean, if you could remember more stuff, maybe you could, like, stop being a bum mom and actually support your kids.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Thank God. I don't got me kids, man. Well, you have three, apparently. And you're not, you know, they're going to. Yeah, right. So somebody's going to be coming, looking for child support. I'm telling you right now. So.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Literally. Literally. They're going to be, like, knocking on my door. Like, you ready for another round? Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, so. So another question here I have is your middle name and was it Lumera? Lumira. Lumira.
Starting point is 01:13:03 What does that mean? I don't know. Really? Because that's what that's why I wrote down like that because the way you said it when you were talking like it was like you almost like it came to you or something. You don't know what it means. You never looked it up or anything? No.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Like it, it just came to me. Lumira. Wow. I once had a woman that is a yoga therapist. She's a witch. She told me that it could have something to do with Lumerians. I don't know if you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know. I've looked broadly into that as well. Like I should probably look more into this stuff. Like I just feel like for some reason it's almost like I'm. don't really need to know about it. Like, if that makes sense, I don't know. But at the same time, I should be not more knowledgeable of what the hell freaking happen to me.
Starting point is 01:14:01 It's just, it's, it's completely up to you. I mean, there are people who go through experiences that are very horrifying. And they don't want to look into it. They just want to be left alone about it. And then there's other people who have experiences that just leave them so intrigued and curious that they dive in and it becomes their just what they, who they are, what they, what they're about it is just trying to discover what happened to them and it takes them down all these different rabbit holes and they just like kind of like you in the sense that they come
Starting point is 01:14:30 out a few years later and they're a totally different person you know and and so um you know I guess Bailey died that day right and and yeah it was born yeah that's very true um and that's that that was a spiritual aspect of it for me like that is a spiritual way of me looking at it and Just like in general, you know, I'm not like religious or anything, but I believe in the universe. I believe I get messages from the universe through numbers and synchronization and stuff like that. And like, you know, like I listen to my intuition. You know, I don't listen to what the fucking news says or what anybody else has to say. I listen to myself and go about my journey like we were talking about earlier.
Starting point is 01:15:17 And, yeah, that's why it's spirit. I mean, in the sense, like, it's like it's spiritual because it's, it's so profound, if that makes sense. Like it, it was, it changed my life in that way where, you know, people are like, oh, I saw God and now I'm this. Like, you know what I'm saying? But for me, it was different. Like, it wasn't I saw God or claiming that I saw Jesus or something. But I believe that probably does happen for people too. in that way it's spiritual for me because my whole life became so different and I'm so different
Starting point is 01:15:54 and I'm not an addict anymore like I've been sober for three years. I'll be sober for three. I keep like adding everything up like I'll be sober for three years, January 23rd of next year. So I'm still on. I'm two years and something months. But ever since then, I don't, my body started turning on me. everything started turning anything I would eat, it would cause me like major anxiety. It would be like, I would get panic attacks and be taken into the ambulance.
Starting point is 01:16:26 But when I'm in the ambulance, I start freaking out because I'm like, what the fuck are they going to do to me in there? Like, I start questioning the hospitals. Like what are they going to give me drugs like this and that and blah, blah, blah. Like, you know, and I just feel like that happened because obviously like I'm protecting myself spiritually in a way from outer medicines trying to. dumb me down. Like my whole life, I was almost since the fifth grade, I was on Adderall for ADHD. And that took me completely away from who I was. And I was on Adderall in college. The weekends, I wouldn't take Adderall because I wouldn't even be able to eat. Like, I wouldn't even be able to sleep. I tell, I'm telling you, I would take overdose on
Starting point is 01:17:10 Adderall and take Advils, like so horrible for you. I would take like seven Advils and and try to make myself go to sleep. And it would make me go to sleep. But it got to the point where, like, it was literally an addiction just to get my work done for a school that stuff I'm not even interested in, stuff that's probably not even necessarily entirely true that I'm learning because while I was there,
Starting point is 01:17:37 I'm learning like sociology and recreation and stuff like that and just learning all this shit that I should have learned in school. and it's just... Are you saying that the public school system is broken? Oh my God. Did I say that? Whoops. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:17:54 This is very new to me. Right? Like, like, it's horrible. It's really horrible. And basically, when people talk about like mental illness, it triggers me because I, as a person, have been demonized my entire life for having ADHD, you know? and been taken out of context. I'm telling you,
Starting point is 01:18:17 I was an in-school suspension like every day of my life in high school. They're always like, Bailey Heath, come to the LSS Center over the fucking microphone. Like we're in the 1970s still. And where I'm from is a very corporal punishment town.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Okay? When I was younger, I'm only 25, okay? When I was younger, I was going to a charter school where we were having to dress like fucking trees wearing dicky shorts, collared shirts, and fucking saddle shoes. And if you did or said one thing, your ass was getting your nose on the wall the whole recess
Starting point is 01:18:53 time. Who was getting their nose on the wall? Me, you know, like every single day in my life, just consistently seeing other people like have fun. And I'm like, damn, I can't be myself. I can't be myself. So I've rebelled against the system my whole life because of my experiences. and man, it gets triggering for me when people are like,
Starting point is 01:19:15 you're schizophrenic. Like, bitch, no, I'm not schizophrenic. I'm a regular functioning human being, not to say that they're not functioning human beings, but I believe that people who are schizophrenic are seeing exactly what they're supposed, like, that's not, you know what I'm saying? Yes. Like, it's not, like, it's not real.
Starting point is 01:19:33 It's real for them. Now that I've had this experience that I've had, it was real for me. Like, regardless, of if anybody believes me or not. Well, I would say, listen, I believe your experience was very real. And your experience is one of many
Starting point is 01:19:50 that we've personally had on the show. And I'm literally next week dropping episode 400. There are 400 people that have been on the show that like sharing their unique experience is like, this stuff is very real. And even with the schizophrenia and stuff, I had a lady and her show, her interview hasn't aired, but she's actually in the medical field and she went into the medical field because of her experiences
Starting point is 01:20:14 and she said that she strongly believes people that are diagnosed as schizophrenia, not all of them, but there's a good handful of people who are not schizophrenic. They literally had an experience that science doesn't want to accept that is real. And so they just call them schizophrenic. They are not. And she talked about that stuff. And it's just like, you know, that's why I try to keep. keep such a humble mindset with me and what I think about and stuff and how I view stuff because I
Starting point is 01:20:45 could be wrong. But in that same mindset, I look at other people too, like the science of the world. I'm like, you could be wrong, you know, like, because I, the science of 100 years ago is wrong compared to today. And so certainly you could be wrong, you know? So that's just how I view stuff. Now, your fiancee, what's he think about it? He believes me, a thousand percent. I was telling, we have been engaged. Well, we got engaged in June earlier this year, and we were only together for 11 months. So we've only really known each other for about like a year, almost going on, yeah, about a year and a half.
Starting point is 01:21:31 But, you know, if I'm going to be with a partner, I'm going to be honest. and be real about who I am and talk to them and, you know, tell them about myself and, you know, what's happened to me in my life. That's just the kind of person I am. And I'm very much intellectually inclined when it comes to relationships. And, you know, he was like, wow. Like he was never not believing me. He completely believes me. He's actually indigenous. He's hopy. And, you know, they have a lot of stuff in their tribal knowledge when it comes to this stuff and like the giants and skin walkers and all that stuff and he's very a big believer in that stuff that he had like a personal experience himself with a very paranormal thing happening to him when he was playing hide and seek
Starting point is 01:22:25 and like he had a voice tell him get out or something in between him and his friend and it wasn't him or his friend. And ever since then, you know, that's opened his mind to any possibility too. So yeah, he's been very supportive of me and my experiences. And during this whole thing, like, I don't know if I would have really like gotten out of it and pulled myself out of that, like, whole that I was in because of all the negative stuff I was experiencing without him and his support. So that's awesome. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. And listen, he sounds like the perfect, perfect person to be with because, I mean, if he comes from a culture that believes this stuff is real. And so it's just, that's perfect. That's actually really perfect. Now, let me ask you this question.
Starting point is 01:23:12 You said January 23rd, 2018 is when the last, when you became sober. Is that right? No, 2019. So I, so this is a thing. I was becoming so I thought I could still like screw with myself even after that, that happened. But I almost killed myself on my 22nd birthday. And that is when I was like, okay, I need to stop. I stopped doing it. My best friend's birthday is January 22nd, went out to Vegas, drank again. And even though I hadn't drank ever since my 22nd birthday, which was July 9th before that. But at that point, my body was like, you don't need to do this.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Like, why are you doing this? So the 23rd of January, I was like, I'm. I'm done. I'm over it. My body was going through the panic attack experiences with getting high. I believe it's because now that weed has been legalized, the government is taking it in its hands and chemically freaking inducing it with shit that makes you anxious and shit. So I think that was happening to me. And my body was turning on me. So I was still continuing with stuff a little bit, not as much as I was before, but for about a year. And then that three for three years, January 23rd next year, I will be sober for three years. Do you remember the date that this experience happened to you? No.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Man. I don't. I know. I know. I do not know. Like, I don't know why I never wrote it down. I don't know. Like, I feel like when I woke up, like I was a sleep.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I don't know. I have no idea why I didn't. I think the reason why is probably. because at the time, I didn't really believe that it happened to me. Yeah. To be honest. Like, and I just went about my days in everything. And like, I had another crazy thing happen to me too or later on in that year where I would,
Starting point is 01:25:20 I don't know if you heard about this, but I don't think so. Um, I, I was working at my cousin's house like babysitting my, my second cousin's child. And one day, I'm just sitting there learning astrology because, you know, I was taken and my mind's different and everything. And out of nowhere, I start hearing this crazy sound, okay, coming from outside. And it sounds like a giant freaking spaceship or something. Like, it was insane. It was so loud. And I'm like, what the, you know, so I go outside with my phone, like, ready to record, thinking that there's other people.
Starting point is 01:26:00 people out there or, you know, looking at the same thing I am. And, um, nobody else is out there. So I call my ex who I was with at the time asking him, do you hear this? And he's like, no. You know, look, I have, he could hear it through my phone, but couldn't hear it through where he was, if that makes sense. And I was like, what is this? And then later on in that year, my brother came to me and said, have you heard about the trumpets, like going around? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that shit, I was like, you heard the trumpets? I've heard that shit before. Wow. Like, it was so freaking weird. Yeah. It's weird. It's weird that you heard it and nobody else was outside either. I mean, because I've, I've seen videos of the trumpets where they're
Starting point is 01:26:55 recorded and people are outside like, what is that? They're all like going outside. Like, what in the world. So he couldn't hear it where he was, but he could hear it through your phone. Yes. Gotcha. Yeah. So at least somebody else was hearing it. And so you're not walking away saying, was that in my head?
Starting point is 01:27:15 You know? Yeah. Like what the fuck is going on with me? Yeah. Like at this point, now I'm questioning everything. Like, am I even human? Should I just, you know, die or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Oh, you might be Nathflem, but, you know, we'll cross that road one day. Right. Right. No, but that's interesting. And yeah, that's a phenomenon that's been around for a while. It really heated up in like, I would say, 2017, 2018, actually. Yeah. Like, there was a lot of reports of that.
Starting point is 01:27:42 I haven't heard a whole lot of it now recently. But I know people were trying to say that it was, that all the videos were faked and that they all came from one audio source of like a truck dragging a plow on cement or something like that. It's not true. That's not true. Like, I'll tell you that for a fact that's not true. And it did happen to me later in 2018. That's interesting. So it was 2018. And it was shortly, it was kind of like shortly after, I guess, my experience with the extraterrestrials or the interdimensional being. So whatever we want to call them these days. The things, you know? The things, yeah. That's interesting, though. That really is interesting.
Starting point is 01:28:29 And, you know, being in Arizona, I assume there's not a whole lot of plow trucks. No. Well, where I'm at in Arizona, it does snow. Really? Okay. I see that. I'm in Flagstaff. So it does snow here.
Starting point is 01:28:42 But it wasn't snowing that. Like, it was not in the wintertime. Like, yeah. So. Okay. That's interesting. That really is interesting. I don't know if I've ever talked to anybody who's said they heard the trumpets in the sky.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I mean, I've seen it on videos online. and I've probably reached out to people who posted the videos and they're just like, I'm not going to talk to this weirdo, you know. Yeah, right. But here you are, Shira, talking to the weirdo. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Listen, I appreciate you coming on and chat with me a little bit here about your experiences. And I'll tell you what, I really think that your experience is an experience that has a lot more depth than I can even describe and contemplate right now.
Starting point is 01:29:25 I'm going, I'm personally, you're talking to right now where I'm going, I'm personally going through a transition mentally in my life where, um, my, my brain's growing, I feel like, all of a sudden, everything that I used to say that I believe could be real or I think like the idea that I say to everybody, you know, reality is far stranger than we can imagine. I'm realizing that far, when I say reality is far stranger than what we can imagine, it's like take that times 10. So it's like, like far, far, far stranger because it's just some of the things I'm coming across is just blowing my mind and some of the things that you said in here kind of cross over into some of this new territory I'm kind of looking into. So I do appreciate you sharing. I appreciate you making
Starting point is 01:30:13 the time to come on with me. Yeah, of course. I'm just happy to share and, you know, connect with others that this has happened to because I know I'm not the only one. know. So there's so many other women that were in my comments saying similar things. And yeah, just taking myself away from the labels of being mentally ill and the schizophrenia and all of that kind of stuff. Like I know who I am in my personal truth and my journey in this life is different from everyone else's because I'm experiencing life in a different way. And whether folks want to believe it or they don't and they want to. And they want to. to bring science into it whatever the hell they want to do like i'm still going to know regardless that
Starting point is 01:31:00 it did happen to me in that i do feel you know changed from this experience and you know i'm going to look more into this stuff that you're talking about like the book of enoch and you know all of that kind of stuff that might come into play like who knows so so yeah if you're familiar with alice and wonderland we're falling down the hole that's what you're about to do if you start start looking into this stuff. Just saying, here I come. I'm telling you, it's never ending. But before we get out here, why don't you shout out your social here? I mean, your TikTok and things like that. Anything people want to follow you and stuff? Yeah. So it's just Shira Rejoice, S-H-E-E-R-A, rejoice, look up how to spell it.
Starting point is 01:31:46 And that's on my TikTok and my Instagram. You could find me at that name on both of those things. If you want to follow me, get in touch. Lots of folks have been DMing me and I've been responding to them. So, yeah, if you want to connect to somebody that you've had a similar experience or if you feel inspired or anything, yeah, follow me on any of those things. Well, that's sure, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy, please do your part and share the show. Without you guys sharing the show, the show's nothing.
Starting point is 01:32:23 We've built the show together, friends. I'm not oblivious to that. and please continue holding your end of the bargain and sharing the show with your friends if you enjoyed it, which I'm pretty sure you enjoyed this show. And also go ahead and check us out on YouTube. I have not been uploading there recently because I've been so busy. We're looking to sell the house. We're actually selling that house and moving to Tennessee. So a lot of things are up in the air. I haven't had a chance to upload to YouTube, but please go ahead and follow us on YouTube because that's where the documentary of the dogman in Kentucky is going to be released. All right, friends, until next week, stay safe. Take care and remember the truth will set you free.
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