The Confessionals - 424: Mountain Beast Mysteries | Justin Chernipeski

Episode Date: March 15, 2022

In Episode 424: Mountain Beast Mysteries, we are joined by Justin Chernipeski! Justin and I started our content creator journeys around the same time but where I went the podcasting route, Justin went the YouTube route. Over the years he has been able to build a sizable channel called Mountain Beast Mysteries on YouTube, with over 115,000 subscribers. On his channel, he creates a lot of documentary filmmaking along the subject line of bigfoot, as well as shorter educational videos on certain cases, theories, and observances. Justin joins The Confessionals to discuss bigfoot, and some of his hair-raising experiences while out looking for the creature itself.Become a VIP for early access to the "Expedition Dogman" premiere at merkel.media!VIP Premiere: Available exclusively on merkel.mediaPublic Premiere: 3/25/22 on The Confessionals YouTubeBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/join MAILING ADDRESS:STE 36188 Glocker Way,Pottstown, PA 19465 SPONSORSGET Surfshark: surfshark.deals/confessionals GET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tony GET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionals GET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!! Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.com Get Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5 CONNECT WITH US Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI TikTok: @theconfessionals Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcast Tony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficial Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcas Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Freaky Deaky Podcast Scott Walker and friends. They do a great job over there, and I want you guys to go and check them out. So check out the Freaky Deaky Podcast. Give them a subscribe, a five-star rating or review, and then hit play. All right, this week we have Justin coming on the show, and Justin runs the YouTube channel Mountain Beast Mysteries. He has a lot of things that he is doing.

He goes out on his own expeditions. He goes with people. He goes by himself, and he puts it all on his YouTube channel of over 115,000 subscribers. him and I have a real honest conversation, some of his experiences, and how we feel about the topic of Bigfoot, the Bigfoot community, and everything in between. So let's get to Justin right now. All right. Today we got a great guest coming on. Justin, Justin, now listen, before we go any further, I'm going to try my best here, okay? Justin Chernipski. You failed. Dang it. Dang it. I was, listen, I knew this interview was coming up and stuff. And every time I thought

about it, I was like, okay, I can do this. I can do this. How do you pronounce your last name, man? It's Chernipeski. If you slow it down and you sound out all the letters, it makes sense. You have no idea what it was like as a child going through school and getting called on the intercom every time. It was just an absolute disaster. Yeah, well, I mean, before I was adopted, my last name was Frickert. So every time I got called over the intercom for, you know, punching a kid in the face, it was Anthony Frickert, please report to the principal's office, you know? And so it was kind of a weird last name. And one of my video guys for my documentary crew, his last name is Hiney. So imagine the, the, yeah, imagine the teasing he got growing up and stuff. Shout out to Ward. So yeah, that's crazy. That's it. That one sucks. Yeah, for sure. At least nobody mispronounces it. Yeah. So, Justin, man, you, listen, I think you and I connected years ago, man. And we never really talked a whole lot. But I just remember, and I don't remember where or how we connected.

I just remember having interaction with you a long time ago. Like when I first started a podcasting, I think you had just started your YouTube channel. Well, I think it was like, I remember when I started doing the Bigfoot YouTube channel, it was right around the same time you were doing the Pennsylvania Bigfoot stuff on YouTube as well. And so it was probably somewhere in that area where we connected online. That makes sense, actually. I totally forgot about that channel. Thanks for reminding me about bad memories. Sorry for bringing it up. If anybody's wondering, that is no longer in existence. It was good. No, it wasn't. So I was. I was. I was. was, um, I had, as far as quality goes, it sucked. I, I had no concept of that. It wasn't,

I really wasn't even doing it for that. I just, I was into this bigfoot stuff. And I had the Facebook group, which was the Pennsylvania Sasquatch Research. And I figured, let's start a YouTube channel where I share my thoughts. And I'm like, turning my phone sideways, recording in a running tractor trailer with a diesel motor running the background. I'm like, this is great, right? I'm like, why isn't the channel not growing? So, yeah, well, it was interesting. It was interesting. back then because on YouTube, this was like around 2016. There wasn't a lot of channels on Bigfoot on YouTube, but nowadays there's so many. So I kind of feel like back then was like the time to start. If you would have stuck with it, man. Hey, man, I'm not doing too bad right now. So,

no, you look like you're doing pretty good. No, I'm doing just fine. And I'm fully invested in podcasting. And I am, I have the YouTube channel. I'm just doing it differently now. and it's on a higher level. And then there's the documentaries and stuff. I'm doing a bunch of stuff. So I'm having fun. But your YouTube channel is Mountain Beast Mysteries. Was it always that called that?

Yes. Okay. So when did you start this channel and why? Like, I mean, was it always focused on Bigfoot and how you wanted to kind of, because I vaguely remember when we were talking years ago, you didn't have a Bigfoot encounter and you were just kind of on the search for it? Is that how it was working? Were you a skeptic? What? I was very, very interested in the topic. Back then, like, I would say nowadays, I'm more skeptical than ever before. Okay. Back then, I was just like, oh, yeah, it's got to be out

there. Like, this stuff is so cool. I definitely believe it. And I didn't really, like, I don't know, I was just younger and stupid. So it kind of started, I remember one day I was at work in 2013, I was working at the Royal Tyrol Museum of Paleontology, which is like one of the world's biggest dinosaur museums ever. And one of the guys I was working with was like, man, wouldn't it be cool to just like do something crazy and make a documentary about something stupid like Bigfoot or something like that? And I was, I thought about it. And I was like, you know what? It really would be cool to do that because that guy didn't know that a little while before. My dad had actually told me that he had this weird experience on Vancouver Island where he swore that a Bigfoot

creature was throwing rocks at him and his friend while they were fishing at this lake. And so that was in the back of my mind. And when my friend at work said, like, oh, it'd be cool to make a Bigfoot documentary. I was like, yeah, it really would. And then like immediately, like, after that, I went home and I started like looking at camera equipment online. I'm like, I should try to do this. And that's kind of how it started with the idea of making one documentary film, which

became Wild Man, my search for Sasquatch. That was the first thing I made on the subject. And I had no intentions of doing YouTube or putting it on YouTube at all. My idea was I was going to make it and then just self-distribute it on like Vimeo and whatever else was available at the time, like Amazon, and just make a bunch of money and that was going to be it. I was going to move on to like a different topic for my next film. I was interested in doing filmmaking. I just didn't know I was going to do. And then when the idea of Bigfoot came along, that's kind of what I rolled with. So when I eventually released that film after like three years or so, it just didn't perform at all. So I'm like, oh, crap, like, I spent all this money making this documentary and it hasn't,

like, made any money. I might as well just throw it on YouTube and maybe it'll, like, turn into something. Maybe I'll be able to grow a YouTube channel and it turned out that was, you know, exactly what was supposed to happen. Yeah. So I think you grossly underestimated the marketing aspect of how YouTube can help you help you out. Definitely. So this was what? So you said three years later. So like in 2016 is when you, when you were ready to put the video out. That's interesting. Yeah, 2016, it was, that that's right around the time that the door was really swinging in YouTube's favor when it comes to just organic growth of any kind of content if you wanted to put it out there.

I mean, it was happened before stuff, but it kind of really hit that, that groove. And then, you know, things started happening over YouTube and, you know, things kind of went downhill, depending on how you look at it. So the idea of going on Vimeo, though, that was, that's an interesting one for me, because I never would have thought that Vimeo would be a landing spot for somebody putting out their first, you know, piece of content. Did you think it was going to organically grow from that? Or were you planning on word of mouth and using the Vimeo as the source?

I honestly had no idea what I was doing. Gotcha. I just, I knew a guy could put a video on Vimeo and sell it. Right? And then I knew I could get some stuff on Amazon Prime. Just through like myself, I didn't have to go through anybody, really. I just had to submit it.

Yeah, I really didn't know what I was doing. So it was all just a guessing game. at that point. Did you, when it comes to the film and everything, I mean, was this something that you just was like, I'm going to do it, so I'm going to buy some equipment and figure it out? Or did you actually, you know, kind of grow up with cameras and wanting to do this kind of stuff? Okay, I knew I wanted to make films since I was like seven years old and saw some behind the scenes footage of Star Wars.

And I just thought it was the coolest thing. That's when I knew I wanted to do video and work with cameras. But I didn't actually get any formal training until I was in college. I was in college for like outdoor adventure and like guiding. So I was learning how to be an outdoor guide. And part of that schooling was photography. And I think I did a semester, maybe two semesters of photography. And that's where I really got to like understand how a camera works.

But even then it was just like a photo camera. didn't really know much about video. And back then when I was in college, it was just as like these DSLR cameras were getting the, the capabilities of shooting video. So all of a sudden, like at that time, like the technology was becoming accessible to me. I could make like high quality videos.

And once I went through college and took the photography course and got a good camera, I started really like thinking about doing something serious. I remember when I was in college, Lindsay and I had a photography class. My wife, Lindsay, we had a photography class together and I was there because I had to be there. Like, it was some kind of like elective I needed to take. And it was, it was cool. Like, I was like, okay, we're taking pictures. And like you were saying, I mean, the photography was great. You could take some video. I don't know. What year roughly are you talking about? I'm talking like, more like 2005, 2006 is when I'm, the timeframe that I'm looking. Like 2010, 2011.

Okay. And I, thanks for making me feel old, by the way. So, but I remember taking those classes and stuff and I was there because I had to be, be there. And I learned some stuff, but I just kind of like, after I was done, I was like, never going to need to do that again. And then here I am doing all the stuff that I do. And I really wish I would have taken those classes, maybe more of those classes and took it more serious. I just, I never could have imagined me doing this, what I do, now and stuff. I was like, you know, I had, in my deepest of hearts, I knew I wasn't even going to graduate from college. And I was like, I'm going to want to be a truck driver. And so, what do I need this for? And, uh, you know, you live with some regret. It's crazy how things

have turned out in the world and how much a video has kind of taken over everybody's lives. Every day people go on YouTube and watch videos. It's crazy. It really is. And that's something that I've been fighting for years podcasting, I did not want to do YouTube, like, video as far as, like, doing the interviews on video and then putting it on YouTube because as somebody who does that stuff, you know it takes forever to edit video and then export it from your files and upload it to YouTube, then have them do their processing and then go through the whole thing of monetization, placing, all that stuff is just, it's so annoying to me. I didn't want to touch it. And, and then it really, it came down to my brother, Jack, he was just hounding me about it. He's like, Tony, you got to

start doing your interviews on video. He's hounding me and my dad about it for our other podcast. And it's like, I don't want to, you know? And eventually I started doing it. And the channel's been growing. I'm like, oh, this actually works. Okay. You know, because people, like, I'm like, it's a podcast. I've been doing podcasting for five years. Why don't I need to do it on video? And he's like, because you'll expose yourself to a lot more people. I'm just like, how? It turns out he's right. You don't want to be left behind as far as technology goes. It's really easy to get left behind nowadays. If you can't keep up, then you're kind of screwed.

Exactly. That's exactly how I feel. And I feel like I finally am getting on it and stuff. And I don't think I'm too late to it. I think I did come in just in the right time because I do feel like it could have gone the opposite direction if I waited too long doing video and stuff. But, you know, I can see it. I mean, the final product is a lot better when you can actually watch somebody doing the podcast versus just listening.

So, you know, anyways, let's talk about something you said earlier, okay? We talked about the cameras. We talked about all the nerding out on technology and stuff, you know, and we could probably do a whole just conversation on that stuff. But you said that you're more of a skeptic today than you were back then. why how what was that progression for you because i mean you have a channel where you put out video content on this topic uh is it more of like do you do you not believe in bigfoot or did you ever believe in bigfoot or is it something that you're just more questioning now than ever no i should clarify that i am definitely leaning towards bigfoot being real like i'm pretty sure it's real

like what else could be, I guess, spawning all these stories and like encounters that you come across. Like there's thousands, thousands of them. What I'm skeptical of, I guess, is the majority of stuff you see online nowadays that people call evidence, right? There's so many pictures, video clips and all kinds of crap floating around online. I really think like probably 95% of the stuff you see is either like a hoax or misidentifications or, you know, something along those lines. I think genuine real Bigfoot evidence is extremely rare and hard to come across. I think it's in very, it's out there, but in a very small quantity. And that's, I guess, what I'm skeptical of is most of the stuff that people bring forward online because a guy can just a guy can make up a story.

in an afternoon and posted online and then it gets shared around by thousands of people. And it's like, how do you vet that kind of stuff, you know? Yeah, I mean, I think that vetting, uh, you can, as the person receiving a story, whether it's you, me, or the audience, it can only go so far. Uh, somebody says that this happened at this time, this location and there, until we have a time machine, it's hard to 100% vet people. I'm not an investigator. I'm a collector of stories. Um, but, But I do understand what you're saying because I think that sometimes people have a radical encounter. And you see this a lot online. I think I've seen it mostly on Facebook. I don't hang on Facebook a whole lot anymore. But I remember seeing a lot of it on Facebook where there's people

that I believe had an experience and it turns them into a radical for the topic, which is fine as far as, trying to like understand more, learn more and stuff. But I do think that sometimes it plays mind games with people and they start seeing it places that if they didn't have the experience and they didn't know what they saw the first time, almost they look at

what they're putting out there now. I mean, like, eh, I don't know. You know what I mean? But I think in their mind it's just like, I don't know. It's it just seems like something clicks in their head and it's just like, you know, they're so hungry for that next encounter or that they might tend to see it more than what it really is going on around them.

Yeah, it is really hard to kind of like put your beliefs and desires kind of on hold when looking at stuff like evidence, right? Like you see all this stuff online, but then you have all your personal beliefs and what you want it to be like kind of, it's like a filter you're seeing all the stuff through. It just makes it really hard to get a clear image of what is actually going. on. So, I don't know. And then the whole community online is just completely divided. So you don't even know what to believe. You don't even know what Bigfoot is. I don't know. What community?

Yeah, well, I guess. We got to figure out a better word for it because last time my and stuff, it wasn't much unity in the community, you know? Yeah, it's more like a war zone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it's one of those things where I just kind of, I stepped back from it years ago. basically when I started the podcasting and stuff, I kind of stepped away from whatever you want to call that as a community. Because, you know, I had to take a different approach from everybody else out there, you know. I'm not, I don't conduct my show to tell people what things are, what they've seen, what they didn't see. I collect people's stories and I share them with other people and let the people receiving the stories make up their own minds. and because of that, I don't really, back then I made a conscious decision to not engage in one side

or the other. And as times going on, the more I've got comfortable with that, because the more I realize, I don't really know what these things are and how they operate. I have my own thoughts and opinions and theories, but to stand on one side of the line and say, this is what I think it is, therefore it is, no, I'm not comfortable doing that. I'm not comfortable doing that. I'm not comfortable doing that. What do you think? I mean, as far as that kind of stuff goes and stuff, and being a content creator in this field, do you feel like you have, I think everybody should have a firm understanding as to what they feel or what they lean towards, but are you easily swayed on that? Or are you open to conversation and debate? Or are you pretty much set in stone on what

you feel? I'm not set in stone. Like, I'm open to every theory. and every idea because I genuinely don't know what Bigfoot is. There's so many different things that it could be. And it would be like I would be a real A-hole, you know, if I acted like I knew exactly what this mystery was. It's silly for anybody to act that way to me. Like you will come across people that will say this is for sure that. And, you know, they'll be so firm on what they're saying.

It's like, but you don't really know. You don't really know what you're talking about. So like Mountain Beast Mysteries was always a place where I would just present the encounters and stories and showcase my journeys out into the wilderness. And then people can take that, you know, and do what they want with it. You know, they can make up their own theories and ideas. But it's, it's, I generally don't say for certain what this is or what that is, you know. Yeah. We're just going out to the woods.

We're exploring. And hopefully, you know, one day. will come across something and then, you know, if I get something on video one day, it'll get tossed around online and people will rip it to shreds. And then I'll quietly pull out of the Bigfoot community and disappear forever. Yeah, there you go. There you go. I mean, see, you already know what's going to happen. That's the sad part about it is that you know that if you come up across with some legit solid evidence, great cameras, whatever, steady, you're on a tripod, you know, it doesn't know you're there.

you're 20 feet away from it, whatever, or whatever that is, and your meters crap. So, like, I know, as well as you know, that you're going to pass that around the internet and there's going to be people debunking it. There's going to be YouTube channels that are dedicated to debunking things,

taking it and picking it apart and telling their audience exactly why it's a false, it's a hoax. There's no way around it. In that sense, why do you continue doing what you do if you know it's going to end that way? I don't really, I've kind of come to, come to terms with how it's going to end.

Like, obviously, just doing YouTube in general, you get ripped apart on a daily basis. So you get really used to that. Yeah. And so I just imagine it's going to be like that, but worse. And whatever, I can live with that. But people always ask, like, what do you do if you get it on video? What are you going to do? How should you go about releasing it?

And I'm just like, I just put it out there and just take it. You just got to take it. And I like, like, I like going out into the woods. filming stuff. So that's why I keep doing it. I'm genuinely interested in the topic. And I'm really, like, I live close to these areas where, you know, everyone says Bigfoot is supposed to be. So it's like, I'm going to be camping there anyways for it, for my own enjoyment. I might as well be doing this because I can combine all these different things that I love, like being an outdoorsman, searching for Bigfoot and filmmaking. I can combine them all into

one thing. And it's just been perfect. in that sense. So that's why I keep doing it. Yeah. And that's a great answer because, I mean, if you don't love doing what you're doing, then there's no point of doing it. And when it comes to going around outside with the topic of Bigfoot on the mind, if you don't, I said this years ago, I've always told people this. If you don't like being out in the woods, you're going to get bored fast and it's not going to last long, you know? Like, you have to enjoy being out there. and a lot of times people are already doing it and that's how they have such a longevity with that kind of stuff. And so I totally understand where you're coming from. It's just a shame that

you have to view things that way in the sense that you know where it's going to go. And I agree with you. If I come up with evidence and stuff, I'm not going to sit around with a think tank for six months. All right, how are we going to release this? It's just like, all right, let's produce it, make it look pretty, and ship it out to the people and get ready to put your hard hats on, guys, because it's going to be raining rocks, like Bigfoot's throwing them, you know? It's just like, it's going to happen. And that's the thing with just the modern technology. There's so, like, I have a, I have a friend in L.A. who does art, movie posters and stuff like that for like Disney, Netflix. he's independent. They come to him when they need him to do something. He's an extremely good artist. And he always

told me that I would be the perfect person to recreate what I saw because I can literally do that. And he kind of refrains from doing a whole lot of the Bigfoot stuff as far as artwork goes because he doesn't like he's had, I don't know if you've ever seen it did go viral. It's a picture of a spider coming down in like the right in the jungle with a skull as a body uh it people are like holy crap like what is this and stuff like the people are believing he he he designed that like it's it's just like it's it's fake it just made an awesome art piece that looks really real you know and so um if he can do that just with his hand and a computer not using cg i and and all that stuff and video effects I mean, the ability, the opportunity is endless with trying to create something that's authentic and real looking, even though it's not.

And so on the flip side of things, if you're creating something and you actually catch it, it's just people are going to say it's fake. And that sucks. It really sucks. Yeah. You really have to, I guess, have all your bases covered. Like, I'm, what I like about what I've done is that throughout the years of having the YouTube channel, I've kind of built up or. reputation of just being like an honest guy, you know? Like I just, I film what happens and put it out there. I don't say it's this or that. I don't make any claims and I don't really amp anything up. And so having like a history of just being an honest good person is great. It kind of helps you out to a degree. But then again, when it comes down to actually filming Bigfoot, you have to cover all your basis in the sense that you have to film this thing for a long time. You have to at least make an attempt to go after it.

That's what you're there for. And you have to look for other evidences that are around in the area like footprints and whatnot. And your video clip, if it's 30 seconds long, it's not going to do you any good. And that is 95% of what we see on the internet is 30 second clips, blurry photographs, and tall tales. You know, you really have to go after it. If you do see something, you actually, like, physically have to go after it and start

filming the whole thing. Like, if somebody had a video of Bigfoot and it turned into, like, a two hour long clip or whatever, it doesn't have to be that long, but, like, actually showing, like, approaching this thing and going after it and filming its tracks and all the trace evidence is left behind. Like, that would be perfect. Right. But we haven't seen anything like that.

You're absolutely right. And is that kind of like a goal of yours? Yes. It's a very unreasonable goal. No, it's not. It's not, though. It's not. And I have the same goals, man. When I go out there, when I've been going out there now and stuff with my guys, like with same goal. And people are like, well, what if you see something? Like, that's the point. Like, like, I've spent five years collecting people's stories of these legendary experiences. And now we're going out and looking for it ourselves. And if we find it, we're not trying to just film a quick snap of it. Like, we're going to pursue. And that's what that's what we did in Kentucky. And we're going to continue to do that until we either find something, we get too old or we die, I guess. I don't know. I mean, it's just one of those things where I think a lot of people don't really have that gear in them. And it's fortunate that you have that gear and you have the actual gear to do what you got to do, you know. And so it's interesting, that kind of mindset. And I just find it funny that people don't all have that mindset.

It's like, what if, what if something comes up? What if you're out there and you find something? It's like, it's, it kind of goes against like what your program to do. Like you actually, it sounds kind of silly to say, but you kind of have to train yourself mentally to be able to like move forward when you run into one of these things. Because like naturally what you want to do is just shut everything down and maybe just be quiet and sit there for a while or just take off. and get out of there.

Yeah. Like that's what your body and your mind wants to do. So it actually takes a little bit of practice to be able to like go into your head and say like, okay, no, like I have to keep going. We have to follow this thing. I really don't want to do it. But that's why I came out here all this way. And, you know, after years of like going out into the wilderness, it kind of gets easier to

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All right. So on that note, what are some things that have happened out there for you that kind of really perked your ears up and stuff. I mean, have you had any experiences that you're just like scratching and have you're like, that was really weird and I don't know how to explain it. Last, I want to say last spring, but it was the spring before that. I was out hiking in the Nordig area here in Alberta, like super famous for having Bigfoot activity. You know, if you go on like the internet and search Nord egg, Bigfoot, you'll find so much content on Bigfoot because it's the spot. It's like one of the hot spots of the world. But anyways, I was out hiking in the area.

I'm walking on like a well-used trail. And this is very early season. So not a lot of people have been in and out of there. But I found something that looked like a track. It looked like a large humanoid track. And it was pressed into the soil probably about half an inch or so. And it was weird. It was big.

And there was only one of them. So I'm like, I can't really say that this is big foot. Like this is just, I'm just going to record it, document it, take pictures, you know, and just put it on the shelf. And then I continue on down the trail. And maybe about an hour or so walking down the trail, I hear a really loud rock clack, like a rock clacking sound. And so instantly my heart is racing because I just saw this thing that looked like a track.

And so I'm thinking, okay, there's got to be a bigfoot and he's in this direction. Like I know where the sound came from. And that was like one of the moments where I'm like, I have to have the camera rolling and I got to be sneaking through the bushes to film this thing because it's got to be there. I'm like, what else makes a rock clacking sound like this? Because sometimes they'll be out in the woods and the terrain, there's a lot of steep terrain and sometimes rocks will fall and pebbles will like roll down slopes and I'll make a very distinct noise.

But to just hear one rock clack and that was it, it was just kind of peculiar to me. So I'm like, something intelligent did that. And I'm like making up scenarios in my head. Like that's the other thing you have to contend with is like your your subconscious is like spinning things in all directions. Right. So I sneak through these bushes and these trees and I'm filming and I get to where I think the sound was and there's just like nothing there.

So I was like, what is going on? And so that was like a time where I was just like kind of confused and I didn't really see anything but I'm like I swear to God like. something weird is going on, but it could have just been nothing. There was another time a few years ago, a guy not too far away from where I live, he called me saying that he has these Sasquatch creatures on his property. And I made a film about it. It's called The Supernatural Sasquatch.

So you can watch that. But this guy was saying for like multiple nights, these creatures were like harassing him and they were throwing stuff at his house. He lived on an acreage, you know, kind of in the middle of nowhere. So I was like, okay, like, he calls me at like 11 p.m. at night. And it's like dark out. It's in the dead of winter. It's like January.

And he's like, yeah, these things are here right now. You got to come check this out. Like, oh my God. Like, this is it. Like, I'm going to see it right now. Let's go. Yeah. So I like packed up all my crap, like, grabbed a shotgun, like, threw it in my car.

And like, off I go. It was only like half an hour out of the. city that I live in, which was crazy to me. Didn't make any sense. I get there at like just after midnight and this guy's standing in his driveway with his dog and I get out of my car. He's like telling me to be quiet. He's like, shh. He's like, they're over in the bushes, like watching us. And I like, at that point, I didn't see or hear anything. I'm just listening to this guy wondering if he's crazy or not because I never met this guy in my life before. I drove out at midnight to some stranger's farm.

Like, this guy could kill me. Right. Yeah, so that was another weird thing I was contending with. But I ended up sticking around there. We went into the guy's house and he started telling me everything that was going on. And like all around his house, there was like pine cones that were all pinched off in the same spot that were, I guess, thrown at his house. There were like so many of them. there were footprints through the snow

across his yard that looked like Bigfoot footprints and like they came from somewhere you could actually follow them for quite a ways it wasn't just a track or two it was like a whole trackway which was very very interesting I'd never seen anything like that before and there were times where we would just be like standing in the yard and we weren't saying anything

we were just listening and you could swear that you would hear something creeping along in the trees and the darkness. You couldn't see it, but you swore that you could, like, hear something. And then I was about to pack up and leave. And the guy was like, hey, maybe we should just go and, like, measure one of those tracks with the tape measure and just to see how long it was and documented. I was like, like, okay, yeah, that's a good idea. Like, I didn't even think of that.

Like, I'm supposed to be researching, and I'm so, like, in my head that I don't even think to do that. So right before I left, we went and did that. that I put my camcorder. I had this big, a Canon, like, mini DV camcorder. I put it in my car. So all I had on me was my phone in case anything happened. Like, I was screwed, right? Like, I didn't have my equipment.

We go in and we're filming this track and all of a sudden, we hear something run through the bushes towards us. Like, it sounded absolutely massive. And this is just behind this guy's house. Like right behind his house, there was like a really steep slow. and like a ravine and down there there was like a creek. And it sounded like this thing was like running up this slope like in the bushes and trees. And then it just stopped.

It probably ran for like six or seven steps and just stopped. And we are like crapping our pants. And I looked at this guy, this other guy. And I could see him like physically shaking. He was so scared. And I'm like, oh my God, dude, we're going to see it for sure. Like this could be it. Like we might actually die.

So that's what I was thinking. And at that point, I had turned my phone on to record. And then all you hear, like after we like paused and listened, I'm like, I yelled out to it. I'm like, hello? And then you hear the sound of a horse. What? Yeah. So I'm like, this doesn't make absolutely any sense.

And I had like peered over the ravine and like looked around and there was nothing. There was nothing there. There was no animals of any kind. So I'm like, if this whole time. this thing was a horse like what do I do with that like this is all just a big waste but then the next day I can't remember if it was the next day or two days after

I had a bunch of guys come to this to that area from the Alberta Sasquatch organization which is like my little group of Bigfoot researchers and we explored the whole area all around the house in the daylight and didn't find any sign of horse at all like it was all just like it's snow so you can you can see where things have walked around. There was no horse prints or anything like that of any kind.

So that was very weird to me. And when you listen to the audio that I recorded there, it sounds exactly like a horse. So that was another weird thing. Apparently the neighbors like further down the road were always complaining about like some sort of prowler or something coming into the yard and like rummaging through stuff. That was also very weird. that property that this guy lives on, apparently like a little girl had died there, like years back, which is also very strange. So like just all in all, it was a weird spot. And I can't explain like the horse thing. A lot of people say Bigfoot can mimic other animals. Right. I don't know if there's any weight to that because it really genuinely does sound like a horse. But the other thing is that there was no horse prints or evidence of a horse being there. Yeah. What left these Bigfoot like? tracks. Like there's tracks that look like Sasquatch tracks. And that's the thing. I mean,

like if you have the Sasquatch tracks or tracks that look like Sasquatch, however you want to phrase it, and then you hear the horse but no horse tracks. And then you remember hearing all the stories of people saying that it mocks their dogs, mimics their horses, does some nasty, freaky stuff with horses sometimes. I'm sure you've heard about that. I've heard of like them braiding the hair of horses. While they get the freak on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so if anybody, listening right now has a story that you've experienced that with your horses. I would genuinely like to talk to you. I will not think you're crazy. I've heard this before and I think it's freaking bizarre,

but I would definitely want to hear it. So in that situation, you're left to make conclusions based off of what you've experienced and what you've seen that does point towards Sasquatch. now if you did you can you can put your opinion out there in a second here as far as what I just said but if you did film a Sasquatch that night

with your phone you'll be so shaky you put that online and you're like he's faking it it's a man in the suit why is it so shaky it wouldn't be shaky if he wasn't trying to hide something why is it so blurry

I can't see anything I know it's night but why can't you turn on the light or something it. Yeah. I mean, there's so many, like, factors like that. Like, oh, it's just, it's, that's the thing with a lot of the stuff online, that could be the case, right? Like, the people are actually having something crazy happen, but they only managed to get just a little bit of evidence to show you. Yeah. But that's why I have to set it up with saying, like, I have to say, like, I really don't know what's going on here. Like, it's probably nothing. You have to give the whole story and some context as to what's going. on because to me the sound that this thing made whatever it was at that time like it sounds exactly like a horse i'm like i can't think of anything like that could really sound that much like a horse so i'm like what could it be but then i did some digging around and and thinking and out in the nordic area which is where i do a lot of exploring um where you know bigfoot is supposed to reside there's also a massive population of wild horses in the exact area where like all these tree structures are and all these Bigfoot stories have taken place. There's wild horses everywhere. So if Bigfoot is going to like mimic any animal, it's probably going to be that one. And I, they exist in such close proximity out there, you know, if Bigfoot is real. So I don't know. It's just it's all theories. Yeah. Well, all right. I.

look at what you just presented as far as evidence goes, what you experienced as evidence. And I'm like, I, and maybe, and maybe, and certainly this could be the case that I just leaned to more towards the idea of Bigfoot to begin with, right? And so I, like, I don't have a, uh, what would you say, a very clear perspective, uh, you know, on, on any of this. But, uh, you went out there looking for horse tracks. You didn't find him. And it was snow. So was there, like snowing that night that could have covered the horse tracks. And if that's the case that they could have been covered, wouldn't the big foot tracks be covered then too?

No, like nothing was covered in snow. Like you can watch the video. You can see what the conditions were like. What was it called again? Supernatural Sasquatch. Okay. So, sorry, what were you going to say? Why did you call it that?

Oh, because the whole thing seemed supernatural to me. And I say supernatural as kind of like a loose term. Like this could just be stuff for not really, we don't fully understand as far as science goes. Supernatural when you say that, it sounds mystical, right? But when I think about it a lot, I just think of stuff that exists

that we don't have the technology or the ability to perceive what it actually is. It's funny you say that because just a few weeks ago, I was talking about this with the guy that he's the CEO of Randonauticap. I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but it's, it's very interesting. They use a quantum computer in Australia to generate these random locations, and people believe that it is supernatural in the sense that it's mystical or it's a giant Ouija board. And him and I talked about it back and forth and stuff.

And one thing that we talked about was the idea that, you know, in any groundbreaking science of any generation, it's usually looked at as like witchcraft or something like that before it's accepted as just a science. didn't understand at that time. And so I understand where you're coming from. I do lean towards the idea that there could be a supernatural aspect to Bigfoot, not saying that there definitely is, but I've heard enough experiences and stories to believe that there could be something going on there. Or maybe we're talking about two separate things. And people are just trying to camp it all underneath the idea of a physical Bigfoot that can do magical things, you know, riding unicorns or something. I don't know. It's just one of the those things. I mean, they got the horse fetish, so maybe they like unicorns. I don't know.

But I'm just kidding around. It's interesting because a lot of people you'll hear who are into Bigfoot, they'll always say you need to listen to the indigenous people. They know about Bigfoot. Like, they know it exists. But the people that are saying that are like flesh and blood people, right? Like they think Bigfoot is just like a physical, like undiscovered thing. Well, when you go and talk to the indigenous people, they do believe Bigfoot exists. They have all these, like, amazing stories and tales. But to them, it is a supernatural creature. You know, they believe it to be something that has the ability to maybe disappear and appear, like, at a thin air.

Maybe it has the ability to show itself as a different kind of animal or whatever. But they do believe it to be, like, a supernatural being for the most part. yet these other people who are saying talk to the indigenous people, they believe it's just a flesh and blood thing. It's so funny. It's so funny because they say that and they're like, you know, they know, they know. And I come back and I report to you what they say and they're like, well, you know, some of that stuff you got to take with a grain of salt because it's such oral tradition. And, you know, we know now. And it's just like, hold on a second. You said though. So. Yeah. It's just. But you go, you go out and you have these experiences like the ones I just

talked about and it's like this really doesn't make sense for this thing to just be an animal or like a person like thing like a human like thing just like us there i it's interesting you brought up the like the quantum physics kind of stuff because it does kind of seem like there's a strange element like that that we don't understand and and people have looked into that like people like ron moorhead the gentleman who recorded the sierra sounds yeah he's all about the quantum bigfoot theory and it, you know, being something that we just don't understand yet. And it's totally possible. I kind of would develop the theory in my head that Bigfoot could be something that maybe

at times it's physical here. It's fully like materialized into this reality. But sometimes it's not. And maybe that's a choice that it has, the ability to appear or despair. Or maybe it by its nature, it naturally exists kind of in like an in-between state where sometimes it's here and sometimes it's not. maybe that's why sometimes you'll have the actual physical creature there caught on film or tracks in the mud and that just disappear like it kind of would explain stuff like that but

am I just building a theory based on stuff I can't understand that like I don't know I don't know well I mean you're taking things you're taking things that we do know I mean we've seen tracks to just disappear and it doesn't make any sense and stuff and so when you have that as a fact you have to build an idea a thought process around it and unless like for me, I look at it. I'm like, okay, so does it have super strong legs like the Hulk and just kind of jumped and landed 100 yards away and then walked away? Like, I mean, what are we talking about here? I mean, there's people that talk about how these things can run and jump 20 feet at a time. Well, even 20, 30 feet at a time, you should be able to find tracks 20, 30 feet away then.

It doesn't make sense on some of the level of stuff. And so I do agree with you. And then there's, what's Josh Turner over at the paranormal roundtable, he talks about the metaphysical aspect of dogman. And like he believes that the longer a dog man, he went from believing that dogman is a physical creature to believing that it's kind of metaphysical. And he has this idea, theory, and I don't know if it's his original or what, but he, he's the first one I heard talk about it to me. He said that he believes the longer that these things are in this dimension, in this realm, the more physical they become. And so when people are coming across, let's just say, say dog man, I don't know how you feel about dog man and stuff, but like say dog man exists and

Bigfoot exists and they both originate in similar origins or similar places. And that theory is true, then maybe it's a similar thing where we're seeing a physical Bigfoot that can do supernatural things, but the longer they're here, the more physical they become and less supernatural they are. I don't know. But it takes people like us sitting here talking about this stuff openly to have any semblance of an idea of what's going on here. I think for a long time, especially when you and I started doing this around the same time, it was very shunned upon to talk like this stuff. And everybody was worried that you're going to be looked at as crazy. And then over time, I think people started like me and other people coming out and just saying, listen, I don't freaking care. This is what I think. And we're going to have some fun conversation, see where it goes. And at the end of day, like I said earlier in this interview, we're not telling you what to believe. Justin, Tony, we're not here telling people what to believe. We're just having conversation back and forth. And you take this conversation, walk away and think for yourself and figure out what you believe.

That's all it is. There's a lot of things. And like when you start looking into the sciences of like quantum physics and stuff, there's a lot of things like nowadays that are generally. generally like more and more accepted. Like the idea of like parallel universes and things like that, I think it's more accepted nowadays. 100%. Yeah. So if you think about a parallel reality or universe,

there has to be things like objects and beings that exist there. So there could be literally anything that exists in an alternate reality. We don't really know. And maybe something exists like just. off of this reality like just a few frequencies off like I don't know like this is all theory right everything exists

at a frequency and the stuff we can see and feel it's all frequencies and vibrations maybe something exists kind of just off but sometimes it's just like it can be here I agree man no I agree I have a hard time I have a hard time

like trying to get my thoughts across with words no it's fine I I'm the same I just ramble on until I get it. So like parallel universes 100% okay. Edward Monet, he said it on the Chelsea Handler show. I talk about this all the time. Like when you have a physicist like him saying actually we do dabble in parallel universes. He said, you know, it's not like, you know, stranger things where they're going into the upside down and stuff,

which I don't believe. Okay. And I have reserved the right not to believe that. But the fact is we have a mainstream scientist saying we do dabble in parallel universes. So just that alone says, yes, parallel universes do exist and there are things in there to dabble in. And then when you take it to more of my level of things and where I come from on things and the way I look at I'll look at everything. And I'll take pieces of this and be like, this is similar to this over here. I know you say they're two different topics, but I don't think they might necessarily be two different topics. So schools of mystery do exist. There are schools. of mystery that are not publicized. They don't have a website where you can enroll,

but they do exist. And I've talked to people who have talked to people that were in these schools of mysteries talking about what they're taught and what they've seen. And one of the things, the first thing I heard him talk about was how this, I guess, what do you call? A wizard, a witch, whatever this person was that in training at the school of mystery, they were being taught how to open portals. Well, what do you have to have? What is a portal? It's a doorway to another side of something, you know, and they were learning how to open portals. And she said that she had seen things come through these portals. And one of the things that she says she saw come through the portal was an upright walking dog.

And I heard this on my way to Kentucky to go hunt the dog man. I'm like, freak, man. I'm like, yo. But I mean, so that's... where I mean, but I take 10 different things and I kind of combine stuff because I think that there's truth in the middle of everything. And so when I have Edward Monet saying, we do dabble in parallel universes, and then I have schools of mystery teaching their students how to open portals for those parallel universes and they say, this is what comes through. And how many times we hear people talk about portals, whether they're opening them or coming across them out in the wilderness somewhere. Have you seen a portal, by the way? No, I don't think so. Bummer. Maybe you

walk through one and that's how we're talking. We're on the other side. of it. Dude, it's possible. Every day, like, I wake up and I see what's going on and, like, on the news. I feel like every day I, like, slip into a different reality. Dude. It just keeps getting so weird. Bro, that, that process started 2001, bro. It's like, the world will never be the same after 9-11. It affected everything. And from there, it all just went, you know, it went downhill. I have the theory that the world actually did end, as we know it, in 2012, because that's exactly when Instagram blew up. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. You're right. I'm, man, I've been, this is having

me a lot recently. I've been doing interviews where I, listen, I came across something recently that relays into so much that I cover on the show. And until I'm ready to talk about it publicly and stuff, I have to do it in codes. But I, yes, yes, I agree. Yeah. Well, as far as like the alternate reality thing parallel universe thing goes i like to dumb it down to understand it for myself as if like there you can have certain cameras that can take pictures and videos of different light frequencies that we can't visibly see you can see stuff on there you don't see it like that but that's actually there you know what i mean like there could be stuff around you that you can't see with your like organic eyes like human eyes but other things can see it which is very strange to

think about. Like, you can have a camera set to record just ultraviolet or whatever, and it looks really weird, but you don't see it like that. It's very strange to think of it in that sense. You know, I had a similar experience happen just recently at the house. I've talked about it on the show a couple times where my dad and I just got done recording for our other podcasts, Himmerlay Legends. Shout out to Himmerly Legends. And we go out my basement door to walk around the house because I had a bunch of trash in the backyard from cleaning out my basement. And we come down around the hill to the back of the house to get some more trash bags. And I see this bright light in the sky. And he sees the bright light too. So it's our naked eye. We see this. But we don't see the same thing.

So I saw this light in the sky with streaks of light coming down off the side, like almost in an arcing manner, almost like it almost as if it had wings of some kind. know, even though I don't think that's what it was. My dad couldn't see those streaks of a light whatsoever. I went in the house, got the camera I'm talking to you on right now, the Sony A-7-3, took pictures of it. Now, I'm sure you understand that this camera takes great night footage. I mean, it, like, dimly lit, very good. Took a picture of this thing. The light's there. There's no streaks coming off of it. I look up. I can see the streaks on the camera. No, my dad, no. And it's really interesting. And people have suggested that I have a problem with my

eyes and stuff. And I would just say, I don't think, I don't think I do. I mean, I go to the eye doctor every year. And the last couple of years, he's been telling my eyes actually haven't been improving. Like, they're actually getting better. And so I didn't know that was possible, but apparently it is. And so I don't know what that was, but it's very interesting the way we perceive things versus what is really going on there. I don't know if those streaks of light were just my perception or what. but I could see something my dad couldn't see or the camera. So I'm assuming it, I'm just going crazy,

I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird when you think about that kind of stuff and then think about the world of Bigfoot, like maybe one person will see the creature and maybe other people will see something totally different.

Maybe they'll see a bear standing up. I don't know. But it's like people do perceive things differently and people are more susceptible to be fooled than other people. So it's like, And it's just, it's hard to navigate that world and to come up with any solid, I guess, uh, any solid conclusions on what is going on. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Uh, it, it's hard, but it's also fun if you're willing to just kind of take it on the chin whenever you say

something that people don't agree with. And so, uh, just kind of just do it. Um, I've gotten used to that over the years. What I haven't gotten used to, like you said, you kind of gotten better at is the YouTube negativity. I'm like, yo, I want to, I want to clap back every time. I'm just like, I don't have time for this. I don't have time for this. Usually, it usually self-regulates in the comment section. People will rush in to defend you, which is great. Yeah, I guess I don't look at the comments enough to, to see the defense and stuff. And usually when I see a negative comment, because I just posted the video, and I'm just like, bang, let's kill them. Yeah.

It's a brave thing to do is to venture into the comments of your own videos. Yeah. If you want to take an emotional beating, then go for it. Right, right? Because, I mean, you put all this time and effort in something. You're like, this sucks. It's like, then you can do better. You do better.

Show me how it's done. You know? Yeah, it's just you get a flogging every time you go down in there. Yeah, absolutely. Let me ask you, I brought it up a little bit here. thoughts on other cryptids and stuff. I mean, you're into Bigfoot. Do you ever venture into other ideas and stuff? Or do you think Bigfoot's the only cryptid in the world that's possible? Well, no, like, I mean, you could look immediately, an immediate cousin of Bigfoot. You can look at all the Yeti encounters

and the Yowie and Australia and all those other like upright cryptids. I'm very interested in those, obviously. Don't cheat this question, okay? I won't ask about Yowie and Yachtie. I'm curious about a lot of the sea creatures like the Ogopogo and Cadborosaurus in British Columbia. I think most of the Nessy stuff that comes out is probably not real. I have a hard time believing that that one creature could be kicking around for all this time, you know? But I'm actually very, very interested in like UFOs and aliens and that kind of stuff. Like very interested to the point where I don't know. if I want to taint my love for that subject by making content about it.

I'm kind of keeping that for myself to enjoy. Keeping it. Yeah, exactly. But man, like with the UFO stuff, I've seen stuff in the sky that I can't explain it to be anything else. So that's the difference, I guess, between me or between the Bigfoot stuff and like the UFO stuff is with the UFO stuff. I've seen stuff where I'm like, this is 100% real. Like I'm pretty firm on that. But with the Bigfoot stuff, it's more of a mystery and it allows me to go out and explore and try and find answers.

Yeah, that makes sense. You mentioned about the sea creatures and things like that. If you came across like a big lake out there while you're hunting for Bigfoot and, you know, you come across a giant lake and you see a serpent that's 30 feet long just going through the water. and it has like, you know, a forked tongue and two heads or whatever. Like, I mean, it's clearly not an eel. It's definitely something bizarre. Would you film it and would you release it or because it's not on the, the agenda of hunting Bigfoot, you would let that fall to the side and not release that kind of stuff?

I'd probably just give up right there. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what's going on. I'm packing it up and leaving. I can't get what I want on video. Right. Try to film Bigfoot. I end up getting a sea monster.

Right. No, I would definitely, if I saw it, obviously, I'd film it. But it's like, what do you do with that? You release it and let the people tell you you faked it. I mean, I was talking recently to somebody who's done TV shows on this kind of stuff. And he told me, I was talking to him about an area that I was planning on going to. And he told me in that area, they came across a big lake pond or whatever. And they saw just that, like a 20,

five foot, like some kind of creature, you know, it was like huge. And it was fresh water. And, and I'm like, why didn't that make the show? And he's like, because it wasn't on the agenda. And I'm just like, dang, dude, I'm staying independent. Like, I'm not letting no TV producers say, well, we're not out here looking for dragons and we, you know, we can't put it on. What are you talking about, bro? I mean, film it and save it for a different production. It was probably filmed and lost in these archives. And I think every like seven years, 10 years, these production companies delete their archives.

And it's just going to get deleted with time. That's what's going to happen. It's interesting to talk about the sea creature stuff because this one time, a guy I know, he's like an older First Nations guy. He was telling us this story of this almost alligator-like water creature that was spotted however many times up in like the Northwest territories in Canada. And it had like scales on.

He's telling us this story. They believe there's some sort of like creature in the water that has, it's almost like a mythical thing like Bigfoot. And I'm, I'm thinking about it while he's telling the story. And I'm like, this guy is definitely talking about a sturgeon. Just the way he described it,

it was exactly like a sturgeon. It was massive, long, had like, almost like scales on it. looked like a crocodile. If you look at a sturgeon, I mean, it's kind of like that. And it's absolutely massive. Prehistoric fish. Wow. And so do you think that's what he was looking at? Probably, but I didn't say anything. I just let him tell the story. I didn't want to interfere

with his beliefs. Well, you should have asked him. You should have been like, well, I mean, if he's in that area, I mean, he's sure he knows what they look like. Have you ever thought it could be a sturgeon? No, no. Here's why. Or people don't want to believe that it's a sturgeon, though. It doesn't matter, though. It doesn't matter. Like, you just, that's what I like about doing this is that you just present inquisitive questions. And, like, I don't care what your answer is, but let's just talk and see where it goes. Yeah. That's the thing that a lot of people don't want it to be anything else.

Yeah, I guess so. They just really deeply want it to be something exciting. And I don't know why. If it's just because day-to-day life is so boring and I'm sure that's part of it. It's funer when it's something fantastic, right? Like, you want to live in a fantasy world. that's true that's true i mean it you see stuff on tv you hear other people's stories and you're like man i wish i could have seen that and so you know like i was talking about earlier and stuff i mean

i think that there are times that people have a radical experience that they actually had and from that experience they go on this like life journey of hunting that experience again and they tend to over time water it down because they're not replicating what they first had and they're like it's like you're looking for that next hit and eventually you're like oh okay, this freaking, this tree's close enough. Yep, that's it. That's what it is. You know, that hit again. And I don't think they do it consciously, but I think subconsciously, it's just one of those

things that happen and stuff. And so, you know, it is what it is. All right, I know you got to get rolling here and stuff, but I got to ask you two more questions. The farmer, did he, that brought you out? Did he actually see these creatures? Apparently. Okay, he wasn't a farmer, though.

I'll say that. He was just like he lived out in the country. Gotcha. He worked elsewhere. He claimed that he actually had seen one probably like 15 yards or so from where we were measuring the tracks. And like I stood in the exact spot and I filmed. It's in the video. Like you can see the exact spot where he said he had seen it.

So he said he saw it kind of crouching down in these bushes watching him. And just to like be. at that location right at like ground zero looking at that spot and just imagining it it was creepy man i'm sure like that whole experience was just creepy and had weird vibes um but i didn't see anything physical all i got was like tracks and i heard stuff heard something big crashing through the bushes and i saw the tracks and i heard maybe something creeping around in the trees when we were being really quiet. So it was stuff like that.

And like all the pine cones that were thrown at this house was also a weird little detail. Absolutely. All right. Well, that's interesting. I wasn't sure if he actually saw him or not and stuff.

But the fact that he says he saw him and stuff kind of, I mean, I don't know, take it or leave it as it is. Yeah, he said he saw them. And like when I first shut up there, he said there was two of them.

I don't know how he determined there was two of them. If he actually saw two of them at one point or if he just heard them in two different spots. spots have no idea. Or could be one teleporting back and forth. You'd never freaking know. See, something I should have done. When you're going out and investigating these things,

you forget to do so many different things because your mind is racing. But one of the things I should have done was got him to maybe do a sketch of what he saw. And just to see, like, if he would struggle with that, you know, and kind of like, maybe I could pick up on him, like, me can stop up, you know? I don't know. I didn't get the sense that he made up the tracks and fabricated those. I'm like, I didn't see anything that would lead me to believe that the tracks going through his yard were made by him.

They were so far apart and they were so big that it's like, I don't know. And they came from like somewhere else far away. Like those tracks, that trackway came from somebody else's property across the road, like a gravel road into his yard and through like the ravine. How far did you follow those tracks until you couldn't follow them anymore? or how'd you go about that? Well, we pretty much followed them down into the ravine. There's like a creek down there.

And we did a bunch of exploring down there. But we didn't cross. There's other proper people's land back there. We didn't cross into their land. Oh, you guys following rules. How about that? All right. One more question here.

And this is a question because I really don't know. Do you go alone on these trips at all? Or do you have a team of guys that go with you? I mostly go alone. Amazing. and like, well, nowadays, like, I do like to go with a person just because, like, it does get boring being out in the woods for so long by yourself that it's like, man, it would really be nice to have some company or someone to just, like, talk to. Right. But, like, I've tracked out like 25 kilometers into the middle of nowhere by myself and camped out in a little tent.

Like, what I do to get by usually is I'll, like, download a bunch of podcasts beforehand about Bigfoot and creepy stuff to kind of get. get in the zone and I'll be I will have those things on throughout the night just to have something to get my mind off of like other stuff like just to kind of distract myself but for some reason I tend to always choose the creepy stuff to listen to and yeah I don't know it's sometimes it's hard to coordinate with other people to get out into the bush for so long yeah you kind of are forced to go by yourself and you know it's kind of nice when you're filming to be by yourself because you don't have to worry about people judging you. It's kind of like embarrassing to film yourself out in public, you know, and around people.

Right. I know. I think about that too because I would like to start a vlog and stuff and like a vlog channel and I'm just like it's weird though. Like I don't like it's weird just walking around filming myself of the house. Like I don't want to do that out like the people that walking through the grocery store talking to the camera. It's like get a life, you know? It's like, dude, I don't know how those people go out into the city streets and film like that. I am a person, like in my day-to-day life, I hate attention. Like when I'm outside doing stuff, I'm just like keep to myself and I can't stand it. Those people are crazy.

Yes, that's exactly the way. I just want to get in, get out. I don't want to talk to people and all that stuff. And so doing that would draw attention obviously and I'm just like, leave me alone, you know, because I don't want somebody asking me what I'm doing and all that. Just, you know, so I don't know. maybe I wouldn't be a good vlogger, but, you know, maybe I'll just keep it at my house. You know, I don't know.

But it's really interesting, man, having a good conversation with you. Before we get out of here, let people know again who you are, where they can find your stuff, and any kind of social media you want to shout out as well. Yeah. Well, I'm Justin Trenepesky, if you're wondering how to pronounce it. Well, that's why I said to who you are because I'm like, I'm not going to try again. Yeah. And I have a YouTube channel called Mountain Beast Mysteries.

107,000 subscribers. 107,000. Yes, it took a while to get there, but we primarily focus on Bigfoot. Every now and then, we'll talk about something else, maybe. Like when we first started out, we talked about ghosts and UFOs and Bigfoot. But Bigfoot took over. That's mostly what it's about. So if you're into Bigfoot, definitely check it out, subscribe.

And that's the best place to follow. There's also a Mountain Beast Mysteries Facebook page that you can follow as well. Awesome, man. Awesome. Well, I appreciate you coming on and chat. with me having a conversation. I think this was probably long overdue, man. Like, I don't know, I have no idea why we didn't connect sooner. I literally, we haven't even like talked at all. Like, no. I mean, like, we've known each other and we've talked very sparingly over the years.

And I don't, I really don't remember what it was, but I was just like, like something made me think. I remember I was doing something with my stuff and it made me think about you. And I'm like, his name was Justin something. And I'm just. just like, I looked around online and stuff. I think I looked at my friends and just look through all the Justin's until I found you. And I was like, dude, let's talk. You know? Perfect.

Yeah, it's awesome, man. And congratulations on the success you've been having and stuff. And I really appreciate you chat with me and having a fun conversation. Yeah, man, that was awesome. I'm glad we could finally get into all this weird stuff. Well, that's the show. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy, please share the show with your friends.

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