The Confessionals - 434: Life Abduction Puzzle

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

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Merkel. Media. Hey, everyone, before we get into this week's show, I just want to remind you, I've been talking about it a lot, but I am moving to Tennessee this month in April, which means that if there's an issue with the show, if a show doesn't show up on time, or if the audio, if there's something wrong with the audio, and it's not being fixed, that's why, because I'm out of office. I may not even have internet when I get to the new house right away.

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All right, friends, listen, we have a great show coming up for you this week. We have Cole coming on the show. And Cole talks about punching through the Reaper, seeing Shadow Men, UFOs, had a good conversation with Cole. And I also feel like he might have had a 20-a-back situation going on there. Actually, Cole's situation actually might tie into the whole new storyline that I've been dealing with on the side. That is going to be a whole brand-new podcast.

You heard me talk about it before. it's interesting with what he had to say. And I just, my ears perked up a lot. But he calls it a long dream. I think it might be more to it than just a simple long dream. All right. Let's get to Cole right now. All right.

Today we got Cole on the show. Cole, what's going on, man? Oh, not much, Tony. How are you doing? Doing good, doing good, man. So, Cole, you're in Indiana, and you have three UFO encounters, all that somebody had seen it with you. and then you also have a shadow man encounter that I found interesting.

So let's get into it. Start sharing with us these UFO encounters and what you experienced, man. All right, cool, yeah. All right. So I obviously live in Indiana, and I always said I live in the middle of nowhere because there's just cornfields and beanfield all around. We were the only house in the middle of this cornfield. And so I was about 11 or 12 at this time.

And I invited two of my friends over, and we got off the bus, and we were at my house, and my parents and my brother, they weren't there, is just us. So we're out there playing basketball in the driveway and shooting hoops, you know. And we started hearing these fighter jets flying over, and there's actually an airbase, Grissom Air Base that's like 40 minutes away from where I live. I think it's in Kokomo, Indiana. And yeah, we were hearing these jets flying over and they sounded really, really low. And they just kept flying over.

It kept hearing these two jets. They'd fly over. And then they'd turn around, fly right back over. And they were, they sounded really close. And we kept, they probably did this like three or four. four times. And then we didn't hear him for a couple

minutes and we're sitting there looking up in the sky looking for him. And the weird thing was we never saw these jets. They were they kept, they just disappeared for a while.

And we were sitting there and we were hearing something out in the field and what, I don't know, it sounded like a hovering jet in the field kind of you know that jet engine sound that large rush of air just in the middle of the field and so we're looking out in the field and we see the corn moving and at this time it was probably i don't know uh august so the corn was getting pretty high so it was probably about four or five feet high at this time and we saw you know this is the middle or this

you know after school so it's like four o'clock in the afternoon and so we kept hearing the sound and we saw the corn moving and then we could see this kind of slightly translucent thing look like a blob translucent blob in the field and we don't we're just our jaws are dropped and we're seeing this thing and we have no clue what is going on and we're watching this for about a minute and then all of a sudden it launches this fireball out the side of it at a 45 degree angle right into the corn. And, you know, this thing is obviously only hovering about, I don't know, 10 feet above the corn. It's almost touching the corner, it looks like.

And it launches that fireball out. And that thing is smoking and on fire, it's extremely bright. and it has so much smoke on it and it goes into the corn and all that smoke comes up around the the craft or whatever it was and it lights up the smoke

which the smoke then was it's hard to describe because the smoke was wrapping around the craft and it had a sharp nose on it and I thought my first thought was like

oh it's like an invisible jet or something because that's all we could see because the flame and the flame lit up the smoke because the smoke was creating that shape around the craft and it lit it up and that's

and like I said earlier it was almost invisible it was translucent and we could see it and it so that thing the fireball goes out you know the smoke is around the craft and it lights up that edge of the

craft and we're all looking at each other and uh and we have no idea what's going on and you know we're kids we're obviously freaking out and screaming by this point you know because there's nobody home we don't know what to do and then all of a sudden there's this giant flash it just it just basically blinded us all and then boom nothing that was it it was over the experience was over and we had no clue what was going on. And for years, I always talked about this with some friends or family, and I would always call it the invisible jet because I didn't, I had no concept for it.

I wasn't into UFOs or anything like that when I was a kid. And I went to school and we told our friends at school, we were like, yeah, saw this invisible jet thing in the field that launched a fire. fireball out of it. And, you know, obviously we got the looks, you know, from people that, you know, whenever you tell them this type of stuff, they think you're lying or they just think you're, it's some kind of peridolia or whatever, you know, and it was just, and for years after that, I just didn't think about it much. And, uh, yeah, it was just so strange. Yeah, I mean, I understand what it's like, I mean, the idea of telling people,

they're just like, yeah, okay, you know, what were you guys eating last night, you know? Some little extra shrooms on the pizza, so I get it. But do you think that this thing was military then? I mean, if there's a military base nearby and you heard the fighter jets flying over, and then you have this experience, do you think it was military,

or do you think the military news in the area was trying to go after it? Oh, that's a good question because I, for my, for my point of view, I thought it was military because just from those jets flying over, they kept flying over. And we have, we just had no insight on what was going on. But yeah, I, unless I also had that thought, too, like you said, maybe they were chasing a UFO or something. and I really don't know. That's the biggest question of all. But like I said, yeah, I think it's military,

and maybe they had some special cloaking technology that they were testing or something, because, I mean, Occam's razor suggests, you know, the most likely answer is probably the right answer. And yeah. Yeah. And it makes sense. I mean, when you have these experiences near the military bases, I mean, you can go down

the thought process of these things that are attracted to military bases and things like that. But, you know, there's a good chance that this was military and you actually saw it catch into action. Now, it's a translucent blob is how you described it. And so I'm assuming then the only reason why you were even able to say that it was a translucent and lucent blob is because the smoke made it visible when the fire happened. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah.

The smoke wrapped around it, around the front of it or the side of it, whatever it was. And then the fire, which came out, you know, coming out of the fireball, lit up that smoke and then the shape. And you can tell the shape of the craft because the smoke was wrapped around it. So before the fire, you see this fireball. Did you see a craft before the fireball got shot out? Or was your first recollection of something going on is outside the fighter jets, is that you saw a fireball basically shoot out of midair? We saw, yeah, we saw the translucent blob. Okay, so you could see that still.

Yeah, we could see it. It was just, you know, obviously I always hear the, the explanation of, oh, it looked kind of like predator, you know, that cloaking tech, that predator movie. It's kind of like that, except it was even more clear than that. It was way more translucent than what I, you know, saw in that movie. Okay. Sounds good, man. That's really interesting. Now, the fire with the cornfield, did that, you know, get big or did it kind of just, you know, just? go out? It instantly was gone. It looked like, what do you call those, what do you call those things that jets release in the sky, those flares? Yeah. That's what it looked like, but it was literally, you know, 10 feet above the ground or above the corn, you know, it was right there. And it just came out the side of it.

And the flame and the smoke and everything. It was only about 200 feet away from us. and the flame when it went to the cornfield, it just went out and the smoke dissipated. And yeah, we didn't see any other fire than that. Did you hear any sounds with this thing or was it completely silent? Oh, yeah, the sound, that's why we were looking in the field because it sounded like a quieter jet engine in the field. That's what alerted us to look over there in the field. And it sounded like a hovering jet, but it was maybe a quarter of a quarter.

of that sound, you know, just had that jet engine sound of air rushing. Yeah. Okay. So there was definitely a sound with it. That's interesting. You know, just as past Sunday, this has nothing to do with what you just said. I just remembered it. And if I don't tell it now, I'll probably forget in the future. But my dad and I had just got done finishing recording for our other podcast. And we're going out the basement door. And I see this really bright light in the sky that I hadn't seen before it caught my eye. And what was that? You said last night?

No, this was a Sunday night, Sunday night. Okay. So I, um, I, I stop and I look at it and I'm like, dad, you see that light? And he said, yeah. And it, and what was interesting was he and I did not see the same thing, though. So with him, I said, do you see the light? He said, yes. And it was like, if I moved my head side to side, the light would get closer to the tree line that was in the foreground.

So I knew it was closer to me than the stars in the sky, which weren't having that effect when I would move my point of view. This light was shooting off beam, what seemed like rays of light in each direction, and they had a slight arc on it that if you looked at it, you could almost see, maybe it wasn't rays of light, but actually light going around a craft of some kind that was cloaking, but it was just sitting there still. And I took, I took my, my Sony camera out and I took a picture of it. And the camera that I have is really good for night photography. It really, it's really good. And so I took a picture of it. And what I have on the picture is just a very bright light. There's nothing, you know, shooting off the sides of it. And that's what I saw, but my dad, he didn't, he couldn't see the lights coming off the side of

this bright light. And when I took a picture of it, you couldn't see it either. So it was an interesting experience. I don't know. I haven't even gone outside at night to see if the lights there. And if I, you know, it was just mistaken that, you know, the light's always been there. But I don't think it was. And it seemed a lot closer to me than the stars in the sky.

So just figured I'd share that because I knew if I didn't share it with you, I'd probably forget forever. So it's now documented. Yeah. Interesting thing about that, that you just said that, because my buddy I talked to a few months ago that was with me, that was with us. And when we saw that fireball thing, he also was saying the most prominent thing that he remembers about that incident was the flash of light at the end that blinded us all. and he he said that was probably the craziest part about it it was so intense and it just like the blinding effect that had on us it was just a really quick blinding effect and it was gone

and i don't know what what that was about but he yeah he was definitely uh most intrigued by that part of the experience yeah that blinding effect is interesting too so it just shoots out light and kind of like blinds you. Yeah, it didn't even look like it shot light out. It was just an instantaneous. Everything was extremely bright and we were blinded for a couple seconds. And then everything was gone. The sound was gone.

The blob and the field was gone. Was it was an instantaneously gone as far as the sound goes? I mean, you instantly just didn't hear anything. You didn't hear it like fly away off into the distance. It was just gone. Right. Yep. just that flash of blinding light.

And yeah, it was gone. It disappeared. No more sound. No more jets flying over us. Yeah. Wow. Interesting. I wonder what that was.

The world may never know. Right. So, all right. Take us into the next experience, man. Yeah. This one's actually a little earlier. I forgot to tell you about. This one is, I think I was about seven or eight around this time.

and and this was like I had just lost a tooth I remember this and my mom's like oh you better put your tooth under the pillow because a tooth fairy is going to come and you know bring you some money I was like all right so and I was obviously went to bed put my tooth under a pillow and I'm sitting there I'm laying there and I'm facing the window my bed is facing the window so I could look outside and and I saw this light in the distance and it was real tiny and it starts coming towards me outside and I see it slowly it took a couple minutes to come close to my house and it got pretty big it got I don't know a couple feet in size and it comes and right when it gets into my window and touches the blinds of my window and enters my room, I instantly pass out. And I fell asleep. I, that was, it was a really short experience, but I remembered it so well. It was just the weirdest thing. It was just this light entered my room. And I passed out instantly. Real comfortable sleep. That's interesting. And how old are you when that happened?

About seven or eight. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, um, My first thought that I go to is, you know, what happened after you passed out? Do you ever think about that? Yeah, it's so weird. Yeah. I always have wondered that because I, it's, it's such, you know, a short little experience. And that's why I've always been so skeptical about stuff like that, you know, I mean, what was it? Was somebody messing with me?

You know, I really don't know. And it maybe it could have been a dream. but, you know, I just, I remembered that real vividly because I was excited about the tooth fairy, you know, and, you know, not many times where you, I thought, I legitimately thought that was a tooth fairy. And that's why I fell asleep because I was like, oh, tooth fairy and then passed out. Man, I don't know, man. At seven years old, that happening and then you had three UFO counters after that. It makes, it makes you wonder, you'd ever, you know, I don't know, found microchips underneath your skin or anything like that? No, no way. At least I don't think. I mean, I've never had any, like, major MRIs or whatever, but, yeah, I don't think I'd be nuts if I had any chips in me. All right.

Well, maybe, you know, self-inspect every once in a while and make sure you don't feel any unusual lumps. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Check underneath your breasts. No, it's... I know that Dr. John Lear, was that his name? Yeah. Yeah, he did a lot of...

I seen, what was it, one of the documentary or something on a TV show with him. And he did a, looks like he did a lot of those, a lot of those surgeries to get little things or objects out of people. Yeah. And it's documented, you know, pulling these objects out of people. I've talked to people who have the objects in them. I've seen x-rays, the people who I've talked to that clearly shows the foreign object in their body.

Yeah, it's a real. real thing. And, you know, to date, nobody's really offered. I mean, people talk about this stuff, but the people, you know, in the government or something like that, science community, nobody offers a great explanation. They just ignore it and pretend doesn't exist. And it does. Yeah. Yeah, there's too many weird things that people have found in their bodies and wonder how they got there. Yeah, it's ridiculous. But, uh, all right, what's the next UFO experience? All right. So this one wasn't too long after that one fireball incident. This was when I was 13 years old, and my mom used to take me to school every morning,

because she worked. She had a job there in the same town where I went to school, and she had to be at work at the same time I had to be at school, which was pretty convenient for her. So we were driving down the road one morning, and we saw this thing that looked like a bright star, on the horizon, you know, and we're driving along. And next thing you know, we're passing the star.

And it was, it looked like as big as a, like a basketball. And it was right, maybe 40 feet from the road, right? And it was just hovering a few feet above a small tree. And we were both looking at it. Me and my mom were like, wow, you know, what is that? and we just drove right by it and we just, you know, I went to school and she went to work and that was it. It was another short experience. But there was also other people that had seen it that morning, though.

I had heard stories from other people in that area that had seen that UFO or UFOs around there. And this thing was as bright as, I always call it as bright as a star, like as bright as an arc welder because it was so, it was so bright, you couldn't even really see the shape of it. You know, it had that bright, whitish, blue light. And, yeah, it was just hovering right above a little, a small tree. And the tree was only about 20 or 30 feet tall. And it was just right above that tree. And we passed it on the road, you know, and we had to be places and we didn't stop.

Which I, you know, always regret these things, you know. But, you know, back in the day, you know, I'm 31. now and obviously being you know it was probably about 2003 we didn't have our cameras or camera phones and stuff to take pictures or you know record anything like that and i you know we didn't we were obviously not rich people we you know we lived in the middle of nowhere in a little country house in the middle of the cornfield so obviously uh we we didn't have a lot of money back then i don't know man, you country folk tend to be richer than you believe, than you expect, or you tend to be richer than you lead on because the life experience of those living in rural America, uh, outweigh a lot of things

money can buy. I'll tell you that much. I grew up, I know what you're talking about, though. I mean, I grew up out in rural Pennsylvania, very poor. Uh, and, and, you know, you know your poor kind of situation, but, uh, the lifestyle and what it offers to live out in the middle of nowhere is also something that I'm still trying to get back to. I'm strongly considering moving out of the Philadelphia area, strongly considering moving out of Pennsylvania and moving to another state, let's put that way. Oh, yeah, I don't blame you. Yeah. Let's take a second and talk about our sponsor for today, which is HelloFresh. Hello, Good Food. With HelloFresh, you get fresh farm ingredients, pre-portioned ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstep.

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If you haven't done it by now, I don't know what you're waiting for, but you really should consider it. go to hellofresh.com slash confessional 16 right now. But yeah, that's an interesting experience in the fact that other people saw it as well. Was it that other people at school saw it as well? Or is it more like other people on their commute to work saw it and they reported to like, I don't know, the local news or something? I didn't hear anything about the local news, but my mom said she had heard from her her coworkers or something that they had seen it.

And I honestly, I've talked to her about it and she just goes, yeah, I remember. And we really haven't gone through like every detail about it. But, you know, that being such a short experience too, there's, you know, a lot of people around here, they don't even believe in a lot of this stuff. I don't, like most people, I guess, they make fun of it and it's hard to even talk about it, you know, like regular people because they're just so reluctant to, you know, tell each other. Do you think it's still like that in that area? Because I've noticed in my area where I'm at, people are more open to the idea of UFOs and stuff because of what's been coming out in the mainstream media over the last few years.

But, you know, what's it like in your area? Is it still kind of more? like, yeah, we don't believe that stuff exists? It's like hit or miss. You either got people that are just like, oh, yeah, I've seen this, or I watched some UFO show and blah, blah, blah, or then it's other people who just, they don't have anything to say about it. They just, you know, you tell them a story, and they're just like, oh, cool. And they don't have any questions. They don't go, do you think it was, you know, aliens or do you think it was this or that, you know, yeah, it. It's really hit or miss with people around here.

And I do see the stigma of it, you know, slowly becoming, you know, less stigmatized, as I could say. Yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe I don't know, maybe I'm in a different boat because I am, I am. So like I was telling you before we started recording, I was talking to a guy at the phone repair store about, you know, my trip to Kentucky. And he's like, what are you going down there for? Hunting the dog man. And he's like, what? You know, so I just talk about the stuff. And maybe that's why I feel like people are more open because I'm living my own little world. And I assume people actually want to talk about the stuff when I bring it up. But yeah, it's interesting. And that's an interesting experience. So that was the second one. The third one, I believe you said,

your friend called you to tell you that something was going on at your house, right? Yeah, yeah, this was really weird. Yeah, he was, I think it was about a sophomore or junior in high school. And it was probably like 9 o'clock at night. The sun had just gone down. And I was at home about, I think I just got done eating dinner or something. And yeah, he calls me up. And he's like, hey, man, you know, there's UFOs over your house.

I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, dude, go outside, go outside. I was even questioning that. I'm like, yeah, right, dude. You're probably seeing stars, you know. He said, just go outside. So I go outside, and I'm still on the phone with them. And I look up in the sky, and there's these five large orange balls in the sky.

And they weren't super bright, but they weren't super dim either. And they made a perfect shape, too. So if you think of five orange dots that making a W shape, like a perfect W shape, if you connect the dots, and it was there for at least five or ten minutes. And they maybe was a mile away, maybe a couple miles. It's really hard to judge distance because there was no, they were, I don't know how to supply it, like 30 degrees, 40 degrees above the horizon. and they were just this perfect shade of orange, and the weird thing was, one light would go out,

and then it would appear on the other side of the set of five, and they were always equally distant apart. It didn't move in the sky, it didn't go left or right. They would just stay lit up, and one would... pure on the other side, and then one would, like, go out in the middle, and then one would replace that spot where it was just, yeah, it was just really strange.

I had never heard of anybody really talking about lights like this, where one would go out and come back on in a different spot, equally distant apart, and the lights themselves, they were pretty big. They weren't like a plane light. These things were like probably, I'd say 20% the size of the moon in the sky. They were pretty big. And yeah, it was another strange event. And me, you know, I was talking to my friend the whole time on the phone. And he thought they were over my house because they looked just as big to him. So for all I know, they could have been miles further than what I thought or they could have been closer because I have, I have no clue how to judge that distance. Yeah, that's interesting. So it shapes in a W then, so like one light would move or go out and then it would appear on the other side. Still, still forming a W, though. Yeah. Yeah. I think it would, yeah, it'd be like a W shape. And then when one light would go out and appear on the other side, I think it would make an M shape, I think. If that's how, yeah, if you take one point of of that of that dot of a w i don't know it's it's hard to explain because it's

you know connecting the dots and they're it's making a w shape right yeah i think it would make an m shape but yeah it was just so weird how one would go out and then just instantly appear on the other side and it wasn't like they were uh they would it was like going out real slowly too one would go out real slow and then appear on the other side kind of slow and it was just like slowly brighten when it would reappear on the other side and it

it didn't move that far on the sky actually it didn't like I said it did shift at all it didn't go up or down or left or right one would just disappear slowly and then all of a sudden be on the other side yeah and the colors

it was just like it would be like the color of Venus you know except that that kind of, but it was much dimmer than Venus when you see that in the sky, you know, that orange, nice orange color. Yeah. So, I'm actually, when you were talking about it, I was sketching it on my, my iPad here, just kind of visualize it, and I can see what you're talking about. Did, did it go straight, though? I mean, like, say, say, say one light would disappear, and then it would appear again on the other side, so if forming the M, so that, that tells me then that if it's, if

it's forming an M on the other side. It would be like, say the top left point of a W would disappear and then would appear on the bottom right side forming that M. Is that how it went? Yeah, that's exactly how to explain it. Yep. Yep. It's weird, right?

I mean, I don't understand why it would do that. You'd think it would make some random shape because it's moving the sky. But yeah, one light at the top left of that W, yeah, would disappear and then reappear on the bottom right. and yeah, make that M shape. Okay. Do you think, did you get a sense that this was multiple crafts doing this? Or do you think it was one craft doing this?

What was your sense when you saw it? I thought it was multiple because I could see the stars behind it. It was, you know, nice and dark out. So I could see everything behind it through, you know, through the W shape or whatever. I could see everything around it. And, yeah, just one light would go out and appear on the other side. And, yeah, I don't understand. It would be cool if it would make more sense if it was just one ship because it's symmetrical the way the lights would go out.

But from what I saw, it looked like there was multiple objects. Yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting. One last question about this, though. When it would appear, like, so say it would disappear on one side, appear on the other side, did it ever seem like it was arcing or anything, or was it just going like straight across the sky in that kind of formation? Oh, it wasn't even moving at all. It stayed in that one spot of the sky the whole time.

It just was stationary in the sky and didn't move at all. Even my buddy could, you know, he's telling me, he's like, why are the lights going out? You know, and we're on the phone the whole time. And I'm just like, I don't know. I see the same thing you're seeing. It's just in one spot. And yeah, eventually, after maybe five minutes, it just slowly dissipated and disappeared. There was nothing left in the sky.

There was no streaks across the sky or anything. It just everything, all the lights went out one by one, and it was gone. And I know I've heard some people say they were like, oh, maybe you're seeing Chinese lanterns or something. It's like, no, those things, I like Chinese lanterns every year myself during Fourth of July. And those things can float, you know, pretty good. You can see them cruising real slow across the sky. And it did have a similar glow to it, like a Chinese lantern. If you, you know, that orange color.

But, yeah, there was no movement to it at all. I didn't float in the wind and didn't do anything. These objects were just stationary in the sky. And like I said, one would disappear and then reappear on the other side, perfectly symmetrical from each other. So when, say, the top left light of the W disappears and reappears on the bottom right forming the M, when that bottom right light disappeared, it would go back to the top left. Is that what you're saying?

Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it did that during that experience. And it seemed like it did that several times where one light at the top or bottom would go out and then reappear on the other side. And then it did seem like it just moved maybe a couple sets of lights. It's so weird to explain. Yeah, a couple lights distant from each other to the right. and it seemed like it maybe moved back left just by one light or a couple lights to the left. But yeah, it was just a, it was like a weird light show in the sky.

And, you know, I lived in the middle of nowhere. There's, you know, you can see everything at night. There's no, the city, you can see city lights, you know, 10, 15 miles away. And, yeah, it was a pretty clear night that night. Man, for living out in the middle of nowhere, there's a lot of action-pack stuff going on. out there, man. Fireballs coming out of translucent UFOs in the cornfields and WMs popping up in the sky and, you know. Yeah, so weird, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's part of this process. And it seems like being so close to a military, are you still close to that military base? Oh, and yeah, I live in the, just

probably five minutes away from where I grew up. And it, yeah, it's about 45 minutes away from my house. And we always see the A-10 warthogs. They fly over like every month or two, and you can hear them. They're not very high in the sky when they do their runs. And I've seen plenty of flares. They've dropped some flares at night. It looks really cool. And you can see the flares for miles.

You can see the smoke trails off the flares. Even in the middle of the night when they're dropping flares, you can see those the smoke trails and the flares itself from like 10, 15 miles away, if not more. Wow. Yeah, I have military fly over my house a lot. And I don't have military around me, so I'm convinced that they're coming from me. Now I'm just kidding.

But yeah, it's interesting stuff, man. So let's move into the Shadow Man experience that you had then. You're 20 years old when this happened. Take it away, man. So, yeah, I was about 20 years old, and I was living, I was still living with my parents at the time. And I was sleeping like usual, and I woke up. It was probably five in the morning, and my door was open, and there's a spare bedroom that was across the hallway, and the light was on and there. And I'm, you know, I sit up and I'm looking.

I'm like, why, what's going on? You know, why has a light on in the other room? And why am I, why, you know, why is my door open and everything? And all of a sudden I see this just massive, I called it a Reaper lady. It was just this massive, super skinny reaper lady, completely black clothes, skin tight, black Reaper cloak And it stopped Right in front of my

Door and is looking in the spare bedroom And I just I just started freaking out immediately I curled up And I'm just looking And I closed my I didn't close my eyes yet

But I saw that thing It was so tall You know seven and a half feet tall It had to bend under the doorway Under the top of the doorway to walk into the other room and it walked into that other room and that's when I closed my eyes

and I'm like, dude, this isn't real, it's fake, you know, this is my, I'm dreaming or something and I waited probably five seconds and I opened my eyes and this black Reaper is just a foot away from my face and then that's when I instantly went paralyzed and it was like all the fear

it was just so much fear I've never felt fear like that in my life it was it was I call it a fear agam because it was so much fear that it physically hurt

and it felt like this Reaper was like sucking something out of me or putting something in me and it was so much fear and I just

terror that I tried pushing as hard as I could to get out of this paralyzed state that I rolled, I got my arm, I could start feeling my arm, and I put my, lifted my arm and put my arm, punched right through this Reaper and it instantly disappeared. And I got up and I ran out of my room and my mom and dad were getting ready for work. and I was telling them you know this thing was in my room you know and I instantly

I drew it on a piece of paper scrap piece of paper and I'm not a good artist and it just looked just like a blob I drew on the paper and I told my mom and dad and they're just like you know they had no clue and they've always had like little weird things

happen in their house you know especially with the nieces Well, my nieces, their grandkids, they come over and they would just be standing there. You know, they would look into the kitchen and be like, hey, who's that old lady, you know, or something like that, or waving or, you know, doing something. And it was, yeah, I had never, I've had sleep paralysis before, twice when I was younger probably once when I was 10 and once when I was

12 or something and both those first two times I had sleep paralysis nothing happened I just woke up one in the midnight you know in the middle of the night and was just paralyzed couldn't move didn't see anything

wasn't necessarily afraid I just was like oh man this sucks I'm paralyzed and then I just got up the strength to start moving again. And that was it. But yeah, when I was about 20 and had that experience with the Reaper lady, I've never even had anything like that happen again.

I haven't had sleep paralysis since then. That's what I call it, because I'm still skeptical about it, because this is just too incredible for me to believe. I'd rather just say it was sleep paralysis because, but I mean, I was moving around before I did go paralyzed though,

which is the weird part because I sat up and I saw, you know, the Reaper in front of my door looking in the other room and then that's when I curled up and I, you know, but yeah, that's why I, I don't know, I'm still very skeptical about this. whole experience, but I never had that much fear and a terror in my life.

Do you think that, I mean, all right, so this happened at a time of day then that was early morning, though. I mean, your parents were getting ready for work. So, I mean, it had to be, what, at least 6 o'clock in the morning? Yeah, it was about 5. 5 a.m. 5 or 6, yeah. Do you think that if your parents were in the room with you when this happened, they would have saw it too, or do you think this was something that was only meant for you?

you. I don't know. I don't know if they would have seen it because, I mean, it was extremely real for me. I saw everything. I saw the skin, skin tight cloak that the Reaper was wearing. This thing was so skinny and its arms were almost to its knees. And it was just completely black. And I could see the wrinkles in its cloak. I could see the really long hood it's wearing. But if my parents, I really don't know if my parents would have seen it. You know, they were on the other side of the house, you know, getting ready for work. And yeah, I really don't know if they would have seen it. Yeah, it's interesting because you kind of caught me off guard when you said that they were getting ready for work because I was like, oh, for some reason, you know, I'm thinking this is

one, two, three o'clock in morning, everybody's asleep in their beds and stuff, but this thing was supposedly walking around the house when your parents were getting ready for work. So, I mean, it seems like they would have saw something too, right? If it was something that was, you know, there for everybody. Yeah, I really wish it was, you know, that's, that's the worst part about this story, you know, it's, you know, there's no witnesses to this one, and that's why my skepticism is pretty high about it. It's just the most, it's so weird. It's just the most fearful I've ever felt.

It was like almost, I don't know how to explain, I've never had a seizure, but it's, if I ever had one, that's what it would have felt like to me. if I had a seizure and it was just pure fear, that's, that's what I would, uh, be explained it as that's, yeah. Interesting. Uh, and as far as the punching through the Reaper, uh, is that something that you were thinking through before you did it or was, were you planning on actually punching the thing? Or were you just like freaking out? I mean, uh, I mean, you, you go right, your hand goes right through it. You punch right

through it. I mean, what was your reaction to that? I was ready to fight this thing, you know. This thing was in my face. It was a foot away from my face, if not closer. I was, I was really ready to just beat the crap out of whatever this thing was, because at that point, having that much terror go through me, I was, that's why I wanted to punch it, you know. I was, I had lost all reason and I was ready to just go after this thing, get it out of the house. You know, I, this was, you know, it was real for me. And whatever this was, be it a shadow person, a Reaper thing, or some people have probably called them aliens or something, interdimensional somethings. But yeah, I don't, yeah, I was, I was ready to take it out. Yeah. I get it, man. I get it. I actually,

just recently broadcast a show for the members, and this guy shared similar attitudes when it came to the aggressive nature to back towards it. He and his brother went through some experiences together in his brother's house, and it got to the point where his brother actually chased after and jumped at one of these grays. And when he did, I think if I remember correctly, he kind of just woke up. know, like, woke up on the stairs or something. It's like, what happened, you know? Like, he, he doesn't remember after jumping at it. But even Ryan, he got physical with these things as well. And so I guess there's a certain, it's the classic, you know, fight or flight kind of thing. I mean, are you going to hide under your covers and put your head underneath the pillow?

Or are you going to swing at it and try to get it to stop that way? And I think there's, there's those two reactions. And most of the time, people wind up flighting over fighting. But clearly you wanted to be a swinger. Yeah. Yeah, I was afraid of it, but whatever it was doing to him was making me feel like I was afraid. Yeah, yeah. I get it, man. I get it.

So, all right, well, listen, there's those experiences. And let's just touch on the dream just a little bit. I didn't prime people for it. We don't need it, you know, because I know the memories are very foggy. But at least tell people about the odd concepts of the dream. that you had, I think you said you were 14, I think, or something like that. Yeah. But, yeah, go ahead and tell them why it's such an odd dream.

Okay. So, yeah, I was, this was when I was probably a freshman in high school, and I went over to my buddies to stay the night. You know, he lived on a old farm, and there was no annals or stuff on it. It was just an old, the farm was falling apart and all that. And so I went to sleep that night at his house and I just had this most incredible long dream. For me, it felt like it was, I was in the dream for 10 years or more. It had a beginning. It had a middle, had an end.

But yeah, right now, like the memories of it are foggy. I could tell you the, by the end of the dream, I was in my 20s running some little store, you know, and then when I woke up, I was back to being 14 years old again. And it, I was so, it was just, it felt this incredible feeling of being back, being young again, you know, crept over me and I just I went I told him I told his family about it I'm like oh my God I had the longest dream and I was

on this adventure you know of just crazy stuff going on and it wasn't you know it wasn't aliens like I told you before it wasn't aliens I didn't see it was more it was like kind of like zombies in this dream there was

you know at the beginning of the dream all of a sudden there's this crowd of zombie-like people that they would grab you and just absorb your life force or something. And then throughout the dream, me and my friends, we were on bicycles because we didn't have any cars or whatever. We were 14, and we were just traveling around, trying to get away, trying to find a spot to hide. you know, and we would go through these strange places. You know, I even went, I remember part of the dream where we went to,

we found this old building, and in the basement, we found this, these old, uh, uh, looks like somebody was experimenting on the zombies, because they had body parts on tables with spikes in them so that the body parts wouldn't,

uh, move around. you know, because these body parts were still moving around and, you know, nuts and screws in them to tighten down to the table so they wouldn't move around. And we were, you know, like, holy crap, this isn't his ain't a good place. And, you know, but yeah, it was just the weirdest thing to have a dream that lasted so long. And when I first had it, I could remember a lot of it, you know. It's been about 17 years now since I had that dream. And obviously, everyone knows you don't remember all your dreams.

Even the best people that can recall their dreams still don't remember most of their dreams. Unless they, one of those people that write them down every day. But I don't even know anybody that actually writes their dreams down. But yeah, it's pretty strange having it, having a long dream like that. Yeah, it's strange. I'm not saying I believe this. In fact, I err on the side of, no, I don't. But I'm going to say it because I know there's a lot of people thinking it right now.

Have you ever thought about the idea of an ongoing lifelong alien abduction situation with your life? And they just lay it out for you, okay? And like I said, I personally, I'm not feeling like this, but I'm bringing it up because it's my job. You have that bright light. You get passed out seven years old. Three UFO encounters. And very, very much different in each account. But nevertheless, UFO encounters.

And we could talk about the military base and things like that. And then you have this Reaper experience, which you even yourself, I think you said, somehow described it or relating it to the idea of alien or something. And then you have this long dream. The idea of 20 imbacks comes to... Oh, God. Yep, that's exactly what I... Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it comes to mind. And, you know, people with the whole idea of 20 imbacks, there is government involvement. There is, you know, cooperation between military. and extraterrestrial forces. And if that is the case, and you're so close to a military base where you're having these experiences

throughout your life, there are some people that are going to hear this and say, he might be part of 20 and back, and he's just remembering pieces of what he's telling us. Yeah. That's when I first heard about 20 in backs, you know, I was, I don't know what I was watching. I just, you know,

after you go down the YouTube rabbit hole of watching UFO Experiencers talk about stuff Then you start hearing about the 20 and Becks and Corey Good And there's other guys obviously But yeah

When I heard that and I thought about that dream I thought about it I really thought that there could have been something there But you know There's still that skeptical side of me That just doesn't can't fathom that part of there being like a my lab military abduction scenario. I do think there could be military abductions.

I really do, but as far as 20 imbacks, that's a really extravagant narrative, in my opinion. It's, it would be really cool though. But if I did, if I did get, say if it was true and I got these 20 and back memories back, what would it, you know, what would that entail? Would I be, would I have such crazy experiences and remember everything? Or would it still feel like, like, like it was all a dream or something? And I really don't, I don't know what I would do with myself if that really happened, you know. Yeah, from what I understand with the 20 embacks and stuff, it's, it's, you're not supposed to remember it, you know.

It's, I talked to Tony, Tony Rodriguez on the show years ago. Yeah. And he, he said that, you know, he wasn't supposed to remember the stuff that he's remembering, but he remembered telling himself on that side that he wasn't going to forget this. And then he started having these memories come back. And so it's an interesting concept. And I just figured I'd bring it up because I, if I figured if I was thinking about it, I'm sure other people would be thinking about it too. And I just want to bring it up.

And it's cool that you had already thought about that stuff. So yeah, who knows, man, who knows? But I'll tell you what, if something else bananas happens and stuff, especially if it confirms these grand conspiracies, you got to let me know. Yeah, like the, I appreciate your skepticism about your own experiences. too, man. It sounds like you're not even sold that on some of your experiences. It's just like, this is what I experienced, but I am very skeptical as to, you know, what it was. You have no idea, you know, so I can appreciate that. Yeah. There's a, like, even a quick story I could tell you,

my ex's son, like we were, we were out one night and we were driving. And, you know, we see this plane in the sky. We're at the gas station in the middle. of nowhere. It's this little gas station in the middle of nowhere. And we're looking up with this guy and we see a plane flying over. And he immediately, he's just like, that's a UFO. I'm like, no, it's not, man. It's got the green and red lights on it. It's got the flashing white light on it. You know, this is legitimate plane. You know, we can even see it. We can see the outline of it and everything. And he's like, nope, UFO. I'm like, oh, man. I mean, I wonder how many people are out there that do that kind of stuff, you know, they just see something and immediately just, you know,

go to, oh, UFO. I'm like, hey, man, you got to be a little bit more skeptical than that. You got to, you know, weigh your options and think about things before you fully dive into, you know, that being your decision. Yeah. Yeah, I totally understand it. And I think that that has a lot to do with people and their own individual thresholds and levels of belief. I mean, some people, it's, you know, they hear, they hear about a topic and they're just like, oh, they exist. And that's, that's their level and threshold that they have where they cross into belief on topics. And then there's other people who they hear about things, they could read about things, they could even see something. And until they actually can touch the something to

know they weren't imagining it, they're not willing to cross that. line into belief. And so everybody has their own threshold for that belief line. And I've learned that over the years is different for everybody. And so I think my threshold has been, has changed over the years since I've been doing the show. I think I had a higher threshold. I shouldn't say higher because that gives it a bad stigma. My threshold was different in a sense that because of all the people I've talked to and all the things that I've heard now, I have become more aware that this world or whatever we're living in, because referring to simulation when I said it that way, it's far more complex than what I used to give it credit for. And so when somebody comes to me

and shares something bonkers with me, I'm much more willing to accept it and say, yep, because I believe this whole thing is crazy, and I can't comprehend it. So what you're telling me, yep, I could believe it, you know? And so in that sense, my belief threshold has changed. And so, yeah, anyways, sorry. Didn't mean to go into a rant there, but you're fine. Yeah. All right. Well, Cole, listen, I do appreciate coming on and sharing and stuff. And it's been interesting hearing these stories, brother. Yeah, thank you so much, Tony. I really do appreciate it. Well, that's the show, everybody.

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