The Confessionals - 456: The Portal Necklace
Episode Date: July 5, 2022In Episode 456: The Portal Necklace, Kelsey joins The Confessionals to share some exciting experiences in her life. Some of her experiences sounded a little familiar to me, and left me wondering if a ...dream I had when I was little was actually more than I originally believed. But, as Kelsey and I talk, we dive into a story about a necklace, which one night appeared to open a paranormal portal of sorts. The encounter had her running, ducking, and hiding from something that seemed to be coming after her.Get your tickets to the 1st Annual Dogman/Cryptid Conference: https://bit.ly/3MXCnnuBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/join SPONSORS GET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tony GET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionals GET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!! Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.com Get Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5 CONNECT WITH US Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: theconfessionals@theconfessionalspodcast.com Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI TikTok: @theconfessionals Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcast Tony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficial Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcas Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - ShutUp N DriveYouTube: https://bit.ly/3yH4kvGApple Music: https://apple.co/3nDfsU1 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3nErEUI
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Dude he slithered over to me
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And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
They basically decapitated.
Feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over, and there are two small gray entities.
And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed.
I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air. Couldn't breathe, and it couldn't move.
because I know I'm seeing a monster.
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So today, though, we are going to bring on Kelsey, and Kelsey is going to be sharing her experiences with the
paranormal.
Some of her experiences kicked off after she started listening to this show.
She's going to be talking to us about what seems to be a haunted necklace or a necklace with
some type of powers, abilities that marries dimensions together. I don't know how else to describe it.
It was a very unique story she shared and it wasn't just her. She experienced it with other people.
Very interesting story and we're going to hear about it right now. All right, today we got Kelsey on the
show. Kelsey, what's going on? Are you doing Tony? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. So Kelsey,
in the audience, I'll let you all know that I have, it's December, December 1st. And it sounds like I have a guy,
on a lawnmower. So it's cold outside and there's still mowing lawns around here. So if you hear that,
I apologize. But today we got Kelsey here. And Kelsey, you have these different experiences.
And you kind of left me hanging, like I said, in the email because you're like, and all because
of this necklace. I'm just like, what the heck? All right. We got to have Kelsey on the show.
But listen, we're going to do this. We talked about it. We're going to do it in chronological as best we
can. So if you could, just starts from the beginning of these.
experiences you had and let us know about it. Because, I mean, you're talking about in the email you're
talking about, you know, running away from things that are like, you know, sounds and being stocked
these things. I'm just like, what the heck is going on here? So let's talk. Tell me about it.
Okay. Well, if we're going to go chronological, the first instance is something that I didn't
experience, but my mom told me about. I was too young to have memories. But she used to hire
entertainment for our house parties like belly dancers and magicians and whatnot. And she would have a
psychic ones that recommended no children.
And the psychic recognized that my mom had a child and that the child had a guardian angel
named Jelik who would hold a symbol over my head to protect me in weird instances, I guess,
which was this essentially like holding your thumbs together and your pointer fingers and
letting the other ones go.
Like a triangle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Triangle or like a diamond, I think, is the way that I have.
I've taken it.
So a couple weeks after the psychic was at our house,
my mom was driving with my aunt,
and they looked back at me in a car seat being like one and a half years old.
And I was holding up the hand signal,
which they were like a little bit triggered about obviously, like, I don't know.
But when I was planning to tell you this,
I registered that my first memory is of being in a car seat
in the back of my mom's minivan with my aunt in the,
the passenger seat and my aunt actually went to see an ex and came back in the car with blood
on her arm because she was assaulted and I have a weird connection in my mind that that was
the moment that they saw me holding up a sign of protection for them because it is the same timeline
and the same seating in the same vehicle and they don't really assume my mom would tell me
that that happened to my aunt kind of thing so flash forward when I'm older I don't
did a Ouija board at like 16 and the name we got back was Jellic and never touched one again.
But I mean, I don't know.
I've looked up the definition of the name and it doesn't have any weird ties that I found
on Google.
But yeah, it's kind of stuck with me through melee.
So it's called Jellic.
Jellic, yeah.
How do you spell that?
I don't know, but I've always done it J-E-L-C and that's how it was on the Ou-Jee.
Okay.
That's how I wrote it down.
here too. So okay. Interesting. Yeah. I'll, I'm going to be looking into it myself. Right. Yeah. Let me know
if you find something because I did try to look up the meaning, but I couldn't find anything.
But, um, okay. So I don't have many memories of anything much after that until I was around seven.
And my mom and my dad separated. And so my mom was living in Indiana and I would stay with her on the
weekends. And one of the first nights that I stayed there, I came in.
in the living room of the house.
And my stepdad had this huge book, like wide and tall, not like fat.
It was massive to me.
And he was cutting it with a dagger, like diagonally and flipping the pages and cutting it and saying his ex-wife was into really dark things and he had to get rid of it.
And that's how he did, I guess.
So no explanation, really.
It's just a memory in my head.
but not long after that, I was back at my dad's house around the same time sleeping and we had a Cape Cod where it's like my room was the entire top floor with a walk-in closet.
And I'm a bit of a borrower when I sleep.
So I was just under blankets on my stomach and I woke up and it peeked out.
When I did, there was people all over my room.
there was a girl in the doorway to my walk-in closet wearing a flower girl dress that I had worn to a wedding recently.
She was just kind of like spinning in it, like looking at it.
And then at the top of my bed, I had a big doll house and there was a small man in like hatman kind of hat.
A new small rocking and like humming the song.
and then the third being that I could see
was standing over me in my bed.
I could see her legs.
And it was blocking the whole right side of my peripheral.
So I felt like there was something behind her,
but I couldn't see anything.
I just saw her legs right at my face.
And so that was, I mean, I was really young,
and that was the first time I processed,
am I awake, or is this a dream?
And I took a moment and I was awake.
And so I just kind of covered my head.
and went back to sleep.
And that was about it.
I mean, all of those people in the room were like staticy and not in color scale at all, but they were there.
So staticky as in like visually static, he almost as like a TV static?
Yeah, very similar to TV static.
Yeah, like almost a gray scale, maybe blueish.
And I've seen something like that elsewhere in my life.
but yeah,
they definitely weren't clear people
just standing in the room
that matched the environment.
So I don't know.
I still don't understand.
I've had people on the show
mentioned about seeing things
in that kind of way.
And what always kind of catches my ear
when somebody says it is I have too,
only it was either in my,
let's just put it in my dream.
So in my head at bare minimum, but I had an awful, awful dream where some kind of humanoid figure came barging out of my basement and it was completely static like a TV.
And it felt so real that when I woke up, I jumped, because I was sleeping on the couch at the time because my son was just born and truck driver early hours, all that crap.
And I jumped off the couch and I'm standing in the middle of my living room with my fists up because I thought I was about to fight some.
like it really felt so real and the more time that goes on with this show and talking to people
and understanding that there's a lot more to the dream world than what I originally thought
going into starting this podcast and then hearing people like you talk about seeing similar things.
It just kind of makes me wonder personally as to what I was dealing with at that moment.
Was it just my head and, you know, a simple dream or was there something more going on?
I don't know. I need a dream whisper.
Right, right. I'm sure you could find one.
I'm sure.
Okay, let me see.
I have a list here.
Okay, so I didn't have too many memories of anything until I was in my teen years,
nothing too traumatic or scary or abnormal besides just a hectic home life, I guess.
And so once I got my license, I really found a sense of freedom and independence and, like,
having control of my life a bit.
And so things were hectic.
Okay, I was smoking weed a little bit and my, you know, everything was a mess in my environment.
I was thrifting a lot of mirrors.
That was like a big habit of mine.
So my room was just covered in mirrors in this Cape Cod.
And this just created a really hectic period in my life.
Like always late for work, you know, never organized, never on time.
And then it would make me just almost infuriated in my mind, like, why can't I be better?
And it would be really hectic moments.
And in one of these specific times, I was looking for my car keys and trying to get to work.
And I'm late.
And I know that I'm going to be on a fine line of arriving to work.
And that just makes me mad at myself because of disorganization and why not.
And so I took rounds of my home looking for my keys.
in any place you could think.
And then some, of course, like, after the fourth round,
it's like, okay, desperate times.
It's got to be somewhere weird.
And I'm searching and I'm searching and nothing until maybe the fifth time
that I went into my kitchen and the keys were dead center on my kitchen floor,
just sitting.
And I'm like, I don't even know what to think.
Like, that can't just be a me problem.
I did not step over those four times in the past.
Yeah.
And those, I mean, in that moment, did you, was your first reaction like, holy crap, I know I looked here or was it, uh, I can't believe I missed these keys this that many times.
It's a little bit of both because I don't know. Like I said, I had so many frustrations with my own disorganization that I was like, okay. Was that you? But logic is just no. Obviously not. Dead center of the kitchen floor, this open space. They're sitting there. And I was looking on all these counters.
You know, and then some, it's like, you would have seen it. They weren't there. They were with it.
Yeah. And recently, and I don't remember what it was, being honestly, but it was this week,
something like that happened to me. I can't remember what I was looking for, but it was,
and the funny thing is, like, what you just described wasn't my, like, my reaction was,
I can't believe I missed that that many times. Like, now I'm sitting here thinking, oh, maybe, maybe.
Probably didn't. I don't think like it. I'm just like, geez, I'm stupid, which I might
be, but that's interesting. So is that something that you think is connected to like this
gelic? Or do you think it's something completely different? Do you think this is like a haunting menace?
What? Yeah, I don't really feel like I have attachments. It's a scary thing to say because you
never know, I guess. But I have always viewed this Jellic character as a protector because I think
I've been safe through most of the situations I've been in my life. And I've never had anything
besides what I'll say in a bit be too like scary or aggressive or anything like that. Everything's just
been subtle winks. And yeah, in this specific period of me being that age of 16 or 17, I,
like I said, gaining independence. I started opening my mind to the world and things like that.
And a lot started happening from that point on.
So I guess I'll just kind of tag it in.
This is around the same timeline where I had this instance at a friend's house
where I started sensing something in a hallway after I hung out there so many times.
And I finally told him that your hallway's weird as hell.
Like, I don't know what she got going.
And he said that his mom says that there's definitely something wrong in their office space.
Like, it just doesn't feel normal.
And not soon after I mentioned it, it was another time coming over where I was locked in the bathroom of their place, like twisting the lock, doornaw won't turn back and forth.
And in my head, I just tied it to the feeling that I was getting of whatever's in the house because I recognized it.
And I feel like that pushed it to be able to, you know, have that little trick with me with the door lock, which went on for a while.
And then the next time that I came over, I was sitting at his kitchen table and I started to feel a sensation on my elbow like a cold tingly gel kind of thing.
And I don't react to anything.
I just kind of absorb and observe whatever's happening.
And it started at the pinpoint of my elbow, but then like spread like up my arm and up my forearm.
So just like maybe halfway.
But I felt the whole thing through and it felt.
nice. It didn't feel like aggressive or negative. It was just like I felt like it was just a
recognition from whatever was in the house. Like you see me, I see you kind of thing. And that was
one of the weirder experiences to pivot me into understanding that maybe there is something
actually going on was that sensation. Okay. So this is my necklace story. Okay. Okay.
Okay. So in this stage of my life, I was pretty like hippie-ish. And I found this yard sale in this neighborhood that was of the same vibe, I guess. And I went there. And I happened to buy a necklace. It was a six-pointed star in laid with stone. It was handmade. And I bought it with an Egyptian black magic book.
And I never saw you bought it inside it was inside of an
an Egyptian black magic book.
It was at the same yard sale on the same table.
Okay.
Okay.
And so I bought them together and I don't know if I ever read the book.
I didn't read it starts to finish for sure, but I did wear the necklace.
And right around this time, I was dating a guy and we were pretty, you know, first love like just
infatuated. I spent a lot of time at his mom's house staying the night and his mom was almost
never there. So it was me and him and his sister. And we were all into like meditation,
eating healthy, like drinking pure water and opening up our minds to whatever. And so I started
wearing this necklace there. And we had an experience where I like gained a vision all
of a sudden through my third eye, like definitely, you know, like there's, there's a difference
when an image comes from here rather than your normal eyesight. And I'm just sitting with friends
and I start to see something. And then as I focus on it, it gets bigger and bigger and more
prominent in my vision. So I'm seeing where I'm sitting, but I'm also seeing what's coming to me.
And it was some being holding a sign. But when I called my boyfriend into a room to explain it,
I don't really know if it may be like shut down because I brought somebody else into the
instance, but the sign said there's nothing.
That's all I said.
And I don't know what that means, but it looked like this being standing on a different
planet or in the desert or something.
And then while that was happening and I was translating this image to my partner,
we left a room that we were locked in to talk about it,
and a friend had passed out on the floor and busted up in their chin.
And so this is kind of a weird instance,
but it does link again to the future, this story.
But so, okay, the friend passes out,
and then we just kind of go to bed
because of the overwhelming circumstances that were going on.
And about a week later, him and I decided to,
have a night and go to his dad's house, which was right up the block. And it had like nicer amenities,
like a food table and like movie room and all this stuff that his mom's house didn't have. So we did
have to sneak in because his dad thought we were a little too open-minded maybe. And we weren't
living life the way that was ideal to him. So we snuck in and we're sitting in this guy's
hot tub with our feet in it. And I,
I start to hear a humming to my right, like 10 feet over.
And I'm trying to process it and reason, like, maybe it's a pool filter.
Maybe it's something mechanical over there that, you know, anything logical that might make sense besides a humming.
But the more I paid attention to it, the more I recognize that this is a woman's voice,
specifically humming a tune.
So I didn't say anything to him.
I'm once again just kind of processing what's going on to see what happens.
And not long after, on the deck above where we were sitting, you hear a door close.
And this is a house that we snuck into.
So we're immediately like, okay, we got to run.
So we ran out to a trampoline in the backyard that's like 100 yards out lined by trees.
And we hop on it and we're looking back.
the house and for some reason you can see all the people that are in the house that night sleeping
through the windows that were open like blinds are open you see the people so who just closed the door
so him and I are kind of processing that for a moment and we'll start to hear a clapping over by the
pool where I heard the humming and so I'm already triggered I'm like okay something's going on
I haven't told him about the humming.
So I'm like, do you hear that noise?
And he's like, yeah, it's just the pool filter tapping against the wall or something.
And I'm like, okay, I give it a second.
And I'm like, no, no.
I heard a humming earlier.
And I'm hearing hands clap right now.
That is the noise that we're hearing.
There's no pool filter that sounds like that.
We tried to reason in so many ways.
like we were mentioning cars on the street and like nothing.
Nothing made sense.
So the more we started paying attention to this clapping and accepting it as clapping,
it started getting closer to us from across this long distance.
It was just suddenly getting louder.
And then once we started to freak out about how it's getting closer,
it got real close, real quick, like up on us.
and that happened so fast.
We were just kind of like bracing each other, like what's going on.
And like I said, we're sitting on a trampoline.
So the noise that we hear is like if somebody yanked the trampoline springs and they bounced,
but the trampoline didn't move.
And when we heard that noise, we just kind of like, you know, jumped back a bit and then ran into a neighbor's backyard off of the trampoline.
and we ran all the way around the block and back into his dad's house.
We shut the door and were like, okay, we're safe maybe.
Like, what was that?
Who knows?
We tried to get over it.
So we went down to a movie room in the basement and he wanted to watch a movie
and just relax.
And I think I laid back for maybe two seconds.
And I was like, no.
Like, I don't know what just happened, but that's not normal.
I've never experienced something like this.
And just as soon as I got the statement out on the doorknob to the movie room, there's a tapping,
and there is no other way to describe it besides a fingernail on a metal doorknob.
And it is like so contestant, like that, like just perfectly consistent.
And so we're like, okay, we called a sister.
She was pretty open-minded about all of this stuff.
and we just kind of needed a witness at this point.
So we called her.
And once she got on the phone, he opened the door because that's our only way out.
And when he opened the door, the tapping went from the doorknob to a knock on the wall right next to the door at the same consistency.
And like it started at this the doorknob level, but it slowly started to go up the wall and onto the ceiling.
And like once it's on the ceiling, we're backing into a corner because it's like I don't know what's going on.
You know, it seems like that was the intent.
So all we knew to do was just say to go away.
Like we don't want you here.
You don't belong here.
Get out.
All of those things in a house that we snuck into, we're screaming these things from a basement.
So I find it weird that nobody woke up to all of that.
But as we're screaming these things, we hear voice.
has come back from the common area of like a man's voice and a little girl's voice.
I always describe it like if they were screaming and you recorded it, but you turned the volume down.
So it didn't hurt your ears like it was loud, but it was like they had intention screaming back at us.
But no words that we can comprehend.
It was just loud or just, you know, busy.
We're screaming.
It's screaming back kind of thing.
So we finally decided to run because we had no choice.
We ran out the door, ran out the back door, drove to his mom's house.
We were sitting at his mom's kitchen table and sitting with the dog and his sister,
just processing and trying to calm down from whatever was happening.
And in the dining room next to us, we hear this beastly heave, like, a giant dog.
that was heaving to vomit three times.
And every being that lived in that house was in the room with us.
So it was like, I don't know.
There's no explanation, I guess.
And we just went and shut the door to the bedroom.
I don't really remember that night we're processing.
So that's how it ends.
Yeah.
That is how that story ends.
Oh, so many questions.
Not enough answers here.
Holy crap.
Yeah.
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you're telling the sister and you hear what sounds like a big dog dry heaving like it's going to
throw up yeah yeah uh three times three times do you all right so from your perspective do you think that
how do it says so it sounded like it was a dog dry heaving do you think that's what it was or
do you think that it just is the way you mentally were able to identify it as something as far as what
it sounds like. Sure, yeah. I mean, that is the most common thing that I could assign it to audibly,
but I think it could be anything considering all of the noises that I heard from a woman's voice
singing to the man and girl yelling kind of thing to the dog. I can't really say it's like a dog.
It was a lot of things within one hour. And so this was an hour long situation. Yeah.
And it started off with that vision?
That was about a week or so before this.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so you have this vision and it didn't sound like it was very long or anything.
You saw this.
Was it like a person or what?
Yeah.
Well, it was kind of like it had, I don't know, it structured like a person, but it wasn't built the same.
Like it had like a long nose that was droopy kind of, but it had skin.
like a person kind of thing. So you could see the detail. Yes, very much. What was the skin color?
Oh, man. It was like, like, almost more like orangish brown than like any skin color that we see
from day to day. So it didn't look human. Not at all. No way. Okay. And it's,
it's carrying a sign that's, that said, uh, there is nothing, right? Yes, yes. And I couldn't see this sign from the
beginning. It was once I started diving into trying to process what it was, is that things
became more queer. But the sign was one of the last things that I could see and it says there's
nothing. I don't really know. Were you wearing the necklace during this big event?
Did you stop wearing the necklace after that? So yeah, here's the thing. Just a little bit after
this whole instance happened, we kind of linked that nothing was going on until the next.
was. And so I took it off and my partner threw it in a sewer drain outside of a friend's house.
And literally listen, like not even four days later, his cousin walked over that sewer and passed out on the spot.
Really? Yes. Wow. That's weird. Yeah. That's really weird. Well, like I said in the first story about it, too,
somebody passed out of that party while I was in a room processing what was happening.
We came out and he passed out.
And then same place that we threw it, someone else passed out over the sewer.
So it seems like if it's related, it seems like the necklace is holding some kind of energy or I want to come short, willingly come short of saying it has power.
But at least it seems like it could have some kind of energy attached to it.
Man, have you, did you ever have.
a vision like that before the necklace? Never, never, never before and hardly since. Nothing in the
same caliber. Okay. So when you, when you had this vision, did it, did you in the moment
understand that you're having a vision or did it feel like you were actually somewhere else?
I definitely understood that it was a vision. Back to the, the friend's house where I felt that
thing on my elbow. I always had a sense that this guy was like a big guy wearing overalls. And in the
moments where I was like starting to see this vision, I was sensing the guy with the overalls
first. And then the vision. And then I started noticing something is going on in my mind.
You know. Okay. I don't know. So in this moment, you're understanding that something's
happening, not normal.
Was it, so in the moment, are you recognizing this as a vision then?
Like when it's happening, you're like, there's something going on.
I can't think of the word, but like an interception.
Like, it's something that's being signaled to my head.
Like, I'm not seeing anything.
I knew I was not anywhere else.
And the way that it encompassed my vision that I was already seeing, it just made it
really obvious that it was like, it felt like a message.
But then the fact that it said there is nothing, I was,
very confused by the end of it after all of the processing.
Yeah.
It's very confusing.
And I might have asked this question about asking again.
And you feel like this vision is connected to what happened a week later?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know specifically that it would be the same being that I saw.
I don't think that actually if I process it.
But I do think that it was, you know, once I got the necklace kind of thing, all of these
extreme instances were happening after that. Wow. And he takes it and throws it in a gutter.
Yeah. Man. Yeah, I don't know. I want that necklace so bad.
No. I do. It might end up in PA with the sewage system. Yeah, maybe. And how long,
how long was it before that his cousin, I think you said, walked over that drain? Less than a week.
Less than a week. Less than a week. So it's, yeah, yeah. Hmm. Man. I don't know. Mm-hmm.
And the necklace came with that book.
Or no, it was on the same table as the book, right?
Yeah, yeah.
She made a bunch of necklace.
Well, I don't know if she made them, I guess.
But it was a bunch of necklaces.
All inlaid was stone.
And mine was the six-pointed star.
And I got the Egyptian black magic book at the same time.
So I don't know.
It's just weird happenings.
And where was this at?
In Cincinnati, in some hippie neighborhood.
So it was like, it was a yard sale or something.
Yeah, it was a yard sale.
Okay.
Okay. Wow. And you don't know who that person was.
No. I thought to go back, honestly, but I really hesitated to even open a door of thinking about this stuff after it happened because it was so earth shattering to deal with something invisible that I, like I said, we were like taking care of what we eat and like meditating and stuff. Like I cut all of that off for years because it was so uncomfortable.
And I didn't even want to know what else could come.
Wow. So. So it changed the way you live.
your life for sure then.
It definitely did, yeah.
Do you think that this lady is still around?
Yeah.
I mean, every time I drive by the road, I have a weird feeling that I could go down it and
find the person.
But I don't know.
I'm in a library doing this recording right now because I don't want to be in my house
because I do not mess with whatever that was that day.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, that story's very.
very interesting.
The clapping, the humming, the tapping on the door knob, and then on the wall and the ceiling,
when you said that you guys could see everybody sleeping in the house, I forget how you phrased it,
but it sounded like kind of caught you off guard that you could see that.
It wasn't because you were surprised the windows were up, or was it something, like in the sense of
something unnatural was going on with that, that allowed?
you to see everybody in the house.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so it was really just a very random circumstance.
Like, so the way this house is built, the front doors on the ground level,
but the back basement doors on the ground level, so they're like built into a hill a bit.
And so the main floor was the second floor from where we're sitting at the trampoline.
And then the far left window is the master bedroom.
And you can see his stepmom sleeping.
When the curtains are up, TV's on.
Like you can see her, which is weird. Privacy, I don't know.
Like, there's a creepy perspective.
But then in the basement, far left room, you can see his dad sleeping in his step-sister,
who was the way at college's room, like, as if the parents got in a fight or something.
And he had to find another space.
It was directly beneath her.
And the windows were, the blinds were open in that room, too.
And we could see both of them.
I don't know.
It was just so strange.
Like, there was no way to make sense of.
those are the only two people in the house and you see them both in separate rooms sleeping.
Do you, so with that then, you're, you're hearing these things. And he's, and he heard it too, right?
I mean, outside the humming. Yeah, he didn't. Yeah. Do you, do you think then what was happening was
some kind of interdimensional being coming through to our dimension and messing with you? Or do you think that,
you guys, for whatever reason, starting with you maybe, were allowed to peer into a parallel
dimension and sense things that were going on there.
Yeah.
It's a fine line, I think.
I don't know.
It's hard to process because I don't think that there was just like some, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know how these other dimensions work.
So it's really hard to try to process how they would be.
But I mean, yeah, it feels like I was, when I heard the humming, it felt like I was experiencing something that was not here.
But it was when it got up to the springs and when we got up to hearing the man and the girl's voice, it's like, you're here, you're responding.
Like a part of me thinks that the woman in the girl's voice was a mock of what they were hearing from us rather than it actually being something, saying something.
Because like I said, we couldn't hear anything comprehensible.
but it sounded like a mock of what they were hearing.
Because I don't have the largest or like the deepest voice.
You know,
and I was screaming,
it was probably very tiny sounding.
And then this man's voice.
And when you mimic it,
it sounded like a man and a young girl maybe.
I don't know.
I mean,
it's fascinating.
I don't think I've ever heard a story like this before.
I mean,
yeah.
Like you were,
you were being essentially stalked for a period of time
by these sounds.
voices. There was no escaping. I mean, you changed locations and it was there. Yeah, it was really,
yeah, it was once, once it happened at his mom's house, it's like we have, you have to be hands up.
Like, I have no option now. Yeah. We just went to bed. I don't even know. And when you went to bed,
you guys just fell right asleep. I don't have memory of being in that room. Okay. You know,
and I don't know if it's from the, I mean, I was shaking. I was so scared.
scared. I'd been shaking from the minute we got into the movie room to try to relax. I was already
like so shook from the concept of what's going on. So I don't know if I just passed out from
stress or what, but I'm surprised, you know, that I could fall asleep in the same house as the
noise we heard right before that. Yeah. How long ago was this? Um, we think like seven years.
Okay. Wow. I don't know. I'm going to have to take some time.
I was just talking to somebody yesterday about how sometimes you hear a story and there's so much going on in your head that you almost need to sleep on it in order to consume it all.
And that's how I feel like with this.
I'm just like, well, I think I've asked everything that I can try to ask and I still don't understand it.
You know?
Good luck.
Let me know if you make sense.
There are some things about it that are, I'm finding very intriguing that I honestly,
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Interesting story.
Is that like the end of paranormal in your life then?
Well, technically no.
I, um, I did cut it all off and like put a block up, I think, in my life after that for a while.
Um, and then I started opening up last year a little bit to the concept of just accepting reality how it is again and feeling secure in that open mindset.
Um, and I did.
find the confessionals around that time, which is kind of ironic. I don't know. But, um,
so let's see. It's almost been a year since I found your podcast. I've listened to just about
everything besides the members. Um, so I was really engulfed in the concepts and I was coming home to
my partner saying all these things and he's just like, I don't even know what to think about what
you're saying right now. You know, I felt pretty isolated for a little bit about it. Um,
But so, let me think.
I was coming home at night, and I remember being really stressed and feeling kind of isolated in my perspective in general.
And there's one night where I was falling asleep, and I heard this voice, like, it was in my ear.
And it just said, I'm just checking it.
And then the next thing I heard was the noise that my baby makes when he's, like, waking up, but he's not crying.
He just wants me to know he's up.
So I heard, I'm just checking.
in the mat and I snap awake and there's nothing. Obviously, there's no one checking in
next to me, obviously, but my kid was sleeping too. And so that kind of had me on edge a little bit.
And in the following weeks, there was like a couple instances where I was sitting on the couch
kind of feeling in this negative mindset still. And I felt this really heavy weight role, like from my
feet laying on a couch over my body and just sit. And like I've done in all of these instances,
I talk about, I'm just processing. I'm not like getting up and like shaking or anything. I'm just
like, what is this? It just felt so heavy and so sad. Pretty similar to my mindset, I think,
at the time, which was weird. And I don't know if I'm, I was attracting something or what.
But not long after this, I had a vision while I was burrowed in a blanket of this woman.
his face that just like flashed in my third eye and she was in that staticy blue kind of visual um
she looked like me in a sense really my reaction was that's what i wish i looked like which is funny
it was just this lady with like bangs and glasses i have a feeling it was my grandma my mom's mom
that i never met because i was going through so much emotionally and opening myself up to this whole concept
of paranormal, I guess.
And I feel like she flashed me her face, like with a smile, just to say, okay, it's okay.
So, yeah.
Oh, okay, there's more.
I'm like reading my bullet points.
That's fine.
Okay, so recently I've had a couple weird things.
The first one would be I had this plastic storage container.
where it's like all of the drawers are individual, nothing is attached, okay?
This top one was open, and I was putting something in the third drawer down,
and I'm trying to close it, and you just won't close.
And I'm like, what the heck could be behind this to keep it open?
And I'm pushing, nothing works, and I'm like, there's nothing there.
And finally, it shuts.
But when the third one down shuts, the top one shuts at the same pace.
And I was just like, okay?
Like, it's just one of those winks, it feels like where it's like,
Yeah, things are fucking weird.
I don't know.
So,
okay.
But, okay.
I went on to a bar and I think I saw which.
Okay.
This is in the midst of me trying to accept being open-minded.
I don't know.
I've just been having a hard time with like trying to maintain peace in my life with,
with opening this door.
Because I, my partner.
What door are you?
What door are you?
considering yourself opening right now?
Just the, I think the acceptance and the awareness.
Like,
of what's going on around us?
What's,
yeah,
for sure.
Okay.
Because like even in the instances that I had in the past,
if I paid more attention to something,
it became more prominent kind of thing.
And I always have that in my mind.
Um,
so I come with hesitancy,
as does my partner.
So in the midst of me going through this battle mentally about what to do,
I think I ran into a witch.
And I'm at a bar after work.
And I'm just laughing at these people acting a fool and, you know, just crying like tears on my face laughing.
And this woman steps in front of me with my coworker who's beside me.
And she's like trying to defend these guides.
And she's just stumbling and her eyes are like, I don't remember seeing her eyes in this moment.
She's just stumbling and like telling me.
oh like it's not funny like blah blah blah and I'm like it's really funny like they're acting a fool right now
there's no logic they're just wasted like well and she flips it to oh you're laughing oh you and your
privilege you are laughing at me and I was like that just kind of set me off a little because I'm like
girl I'm not laughing at you and you just like made it about this whole other thing that I'm just I'm just
existing and laughing with a co-worker so I try to get her to see eye to eye with what I'm saying
She's like, okay, I hear you.
Like, come hug me.
She's like, it's my first day here.
And I'm like, okay, I hug this girl.
And she's like, come sit at a table with me.
So I go to a table and my ride wanted me leave right then.
So I pat her around the shoulder and I'm like, girl, I'll be here tomorrow.
Come here tomorrow.
I'll see you.
We'll squash this.
We'll have a great night.
And she's like, yeah, okay.
She keeps acting like she doesn't believe the word I say.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
And I said, I will see you here tomorrow.
I'll be here, come here.
She said, okay, fine, look me in the eyes.
And I look at her like, believe what I'm saying.
I'm not joking.
And she waits a second and then she looks up at me and her eyes were black.
Like the green part of my eyes and the pupil black, the white part was the deepest gray.
like I still can't even believe it and nobody would believe me either like I told my coworker did you see her eyes
oh this is what she said too this is what she said after she looked at me because I think my face went
from I'm not playing with you to oh I see what game you're playing kind of thing and she said see I don't
even have to say anything and you already know oh geez oh geez I can't so
when you first started telling that story,
I,
and you said that you hadn't seen her eyes,
so I knew there was something going on at the eyes at that point.
But I have just,
and I talked to different people,
and recently I had,
let's just put it this way,
I had interaction with somebody who is a witch,
and the first thing I noticed
is that their eyes are black.
completely black.
And I don't know if it was like they're playing a role kind of thing.
Like I'm a witch, so I'm going to have black contacts kind of thing.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.
But this person has been a witch for a very long time.
They're an older person.
And I just don't know if those were contacts.
You know?
I don't think so.
Yeah.
And I'm not the only one that saw her.
And they saw her eyes.
Yeah.
Okay.
And we all agree that this person had black eyes.
Like, in the moment, I'm thinking myself, am I seeing this right?
Like, you know, you're second guessing yourself and all that.
But no, and I don't know.
I don't think it's like a pre-wreck that if you're going to be a witch, you got to have black eyes or anything, you know.
I was just talking to witch like two weeks ago too and and she had normalized.
And so, but it was very weird because it was the first time that I talked to somebody, you know, that was, you know, a witch and all that stuff that had black guys.
And I was like, well, isn't that creepy?
You know, like, you don't have to do that, you know?
Or maybe you do.
I don't know.
This person, though, has been dealing with dark entities willingly for a very long time.
And I do believe the person is to this day demonically possessed by many.
Like in the Bible it says, we are legion for we are many.
I think that's the kind of situation going on with this person.
Vocally, it doesn't make sense as far as how they sound visually.
I mean, there, some heavy stuff. So I totally feel you. Were you scared in that moment? Did you roll and come back the next day? Or did you say, ah, we'll give it a breather here a little bit?
Okay. Well, right after it happened, I got a ride home from someone who happened to be playing Gregorian Chance in his car over the ox floor. I don't know. So I'm just like, I'm like, can we change the music? I'm freaking the fuck out right now. But he didn't believe me. And everybody that I talked to about it, too, they're like, oh, you.
must have been too drunk or they had contacts and they were just like playing chicks on you like no
they weren't she was not like i'm okay to to blame it on me and the fact that i had drank that night
i drank many nights and i've never seen black eyes in my life and for her to follow it with the
statement that she did was disturbing right and then as i walked away you know but i didn't say another
word. I just turned and I'm like, okay, we're gone. And as long as she was behind me, I could feel
this like energy on my back. But as soon as I turned a corner away, it was gone. And I was freaking out.
I went home and it was a night where we had the windows open and I wanted to go close every window in the
house. I was not okay with that. That feeling of walking away, leaving the area and having that on your
back, I have felt myself when, if you listen way back to, I think it's like episode 41 when I
talk about going to this guy's house that was a Satanist.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
When I left that house and I didn't understand what was going on in the moment, anybody who
ever listens to that story, you have to understand that this was before the podcast days.
It was before I looked into these kind of things.
It was my first time encountering anybody that worshiped Satan as far as.
I knew, you know? And when I left there, though, I had this heavy sense like I was leaving something
behind. But at the same time, I felt like I was taking something with me as well, which I was,
those books. But there was like a heaviness that like, so the environment that I was in at
his house was overbearingly spiritually oppressive. I mean, it was weightful. So leaving that,
I felt that weight kind of going, getting lower. But I also felt like there was like a piece of that
that darkness that was still rocking with me in my car. And to be honest with you, it took me a long
time to shake it, a long time. I mean, I was trying to shake it while I was doing podcasting.
I mean, I started the podcast and I was still dealing with a lot of oppression in my life.
And it was crazy times, crazy times. But it's because, because,
me a story to tell. Oh, yeah. So you counted the witch, very, you didn't answer my question,
though. Did you go back the next day or no? To the bar? Yeah. Oh, absolutely not. I'm sorry,
no way. No way. My partner, I told him the whole story when I came home and he was like,
you better not go back there tomorrow. I'm like, no. I refuse to go back for a long time.
It took me a couple months. And that happened recently. Yeah, that was probably like three.
months ago. Oh, really recently. Yeah. Wow. Well, then listen, so I'm processing what happened
with this girl and I'm already trying to live at life with this new perspective, this black-eyed human
that I saw who just got here yesterday. Like, I don't know, whatever that means, where you came from.
While I'm in Kroger with my baby and I'm looking at this aisle of like lotion or whatever and I'm just
like very close to it and I turn around and there's this.
old woman with this frizzy hair. I mean, like straight out of a children's book, what a witch
would look like standing behind me with her cart. Looking at me so nasty, like just disgusting
look. Like, I don't know what she could have been thinking. I didn't even interact with her.
I just turned around. She's, I mean, I don't know the word with the look I was getting. And I turn around
quick enough to catch the look. And then she flips on this smile as if I told her the nicest
compliment. And I didn't say a word. And she just walks away with this smile. I'm just like,
what is happening? Like, what is following me in a sense right now? I don't know. That is interesting.
So, I mean, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but does that give you a sense that like,
yeah, she was physically there. But maybe like, does it give you a sense of something is kind of
almost following you and and doesn't want to be seen almost?
Maybe.
Yeah.
The way you described it in my mind where it sounds like she was like scowling at you.
It was disgusting.
Yeah.
Looking at me with all of the hatred within herself.
It's like trying to sneak up on somebody else and they get caught and like,
hey, has it going?
You know?
Yes, literally.
But it was just the fact that she actually looked like a witch where it wasn't even friendly
the smile she put on, I was like, this is terrifying. We checked out. I didn't even go to that Kroger
for a while after that. And how long was that after the bar situation? The next weekend.
That's interesting. I mean, I, listen, the world is very strange, okay? Yeah. And I do think that
people have the ability to transform their appearances. And it makes me a wonder if maybe it was the same
person. Yeah. Well, the thing is, like this girl who was in front of me at the bar seemed to
my age. She had this accent. It was really unique and this short curly hair. And she's like,
I got here yesterday. Like, okay. But the lady at the Kroger was just old. She was but like an
older lady. She was bigger. Like, you know, just grown. Same curly hair though. And I was like,
that's probably the same person. Yeah. It's like if anybody doubts it's just, I would say,
have you not seen Disney movies?
Like the witch is always transformed.
Yeah.
But no,
seriously,
I mean,
this is something that I think can happen.
I do believe it can happen.
And I have.
I have talked to people who've seen people transform.
And so I think that it's very,
very possible.
Is it factual that it was the same person?
I don't know.
But it's,
it's weird.
and I hope that...
Yeah, I mean, that timing.
I hope that this isn't like...
I hope the show's not opening some kind of a thing for you, you know?
Because it seems like you found the show a year ago and then things started happening.
Almost exactly. Yeah, almost exactly.
But it did help me open my mind and I'm not mad that I did.
And I also feel after all of these interactions, like, yes, I was scared in those first
few weeks after running into those two women.
But now I just feel very strong.
I feel eager to grow strength in myself to be able to feel confident.
Just keep going because this is happening.
So, you know.
Well, I mean, don't, you know, stop listening to the show if you have to.
My God.
I mean, I can't.
You got to.
You got it.
If it's a, if it's presenting a problem in your life.
Because, I mean, I say this and I don't know how much I actually mean it, but I say it.
and it's if I experience what you guys experience that come on the show I probably wouldn't do the show
you know and I hope that's true in the sense that if some if crazy things started happening
in my life because I feel like because of the show I'm out you know um but I haven't had anything
like I've had weird things but like nothing like oh this is a problem you know and so uh I
and I also believe that some people have certain spiritual protections for situations and
life and I do believe that me podcasting doing what I do, I think I do have a spiritual
protection over me to begin with, which might explain a lot as far as why I can talk to so
many people and really have nothing happen, you know?
Right. Yeah, for sure.
Speaking of dreams, I had a dream not too long ago where I was talking to a couple and the
woman started transforming on the Zoom call and her face started transforming and her she was possessed
and the demon started coming through and Lindsay literally woke how to wake me up because I'm
yelling in my sleep in the name of Jesus in the name of Jesus in my dream I'm reaching for my
power button on my computer trying to turn the computer off and it was it was terrifying
It was terrifying, but it didn't actually happen.
But there was a couple that I was supposed to interview shortly before that, or no, after that dream.
And it didn't happen.
And I wonder, I wonder, you know, it makes me wonder.
A little bit of a sign.
And that interview still might happen.
It's just going to have to happen at noon and not at like 9 o'clock in night when it's dark out because it's going to freak me out.
so but um yeah so all right so those are your experiences in huh yeah for sure man all right well uh i would
be interested to hear if you have more things happen if if things continue uh if you make sense
of certain things like the that story you shared that night that hour span of time it's very bizarre
uh and like i said i have thoughts on it i just don't know how much at this point i can really
speak out loud at this point. So, but I'll tell you, obviously, but, you know, speaking of,
speaking of, let's wind this down so I can tell you. I do appreciate you coming on, though. I really do.
Yeah, me too. Thank you for having me. It's been a long time coming.
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