The Confessionals - 458: Georgia Guidestones, CERN, and M.I.B.

Episode Date: July 12, 2022

In Episode 458: Georgia Guidestones, CERN, and M.I.B. we open up Merkel Media's new studio, The Green Room, with an in-person conversation with William from Perma Pastures Farm! Recently, with my family's move to Tennessee, it became very apparent that I could not continue working from home in our new house as there were no quiet places with my four-year-old and two-year-old running around. Once I found an office space to lease, William helped me find a contractor to renovate it and he did some electrical work himself as well. So, I decided to have him in the studio with me for its first recording! We talk about his personal unexplained experiences such as shadow people and a strange UFO encounter that involved the military, missing time, and possibly a Men in Black scenario. Then we jump into talking about CERN, looking back on the past week’s events and what that could mean for the world. That conversation naturally gravitates towards one of the other big things that happened this week, as the Georgia Guidestones were "blown up", and there is no shortage of theories as to what really happened there. Lastly, I go down the road of connecting dots with the show Stranger Things and how I believe what they depict in the show is way more real than anyone can imagine. Get your tickets to the 1st Annual Dogman/Cryptid Conference: https://bit.ly/3MXCnnuBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/join SPONSORS GET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tony GET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionals GET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!! Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.com Get Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5 CONNECT WITH US Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI TikTok: @theconfessionals Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcast Tony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficial Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcas Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - ShutUp N DriveYouTube: https://bit.ly/3yH4kvGApple Music: https://apple.co/3nDfsU1 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3nErEUI

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we have a different type of show today. We have William from Perma Pastures Farm in studio with me. William is the person who hooked me up with the carpenter who renovated my studio. And we just finished it this week. The studio is completely renovated and finished. I'll post pictures as time goes on. I'm still waiting on some furniture and things like that to be delivered to actually complete the studio. but the actual renovation is complete. And I thought who better to have in studio than a guy who helped bring the whole renovation together. So we're going to have William on the show. He's going to share some of his paranormal encounters, including a pretty trippy UFO encounter that left us feeling like there was some lost time and maybe a men in black situation.

So we're going to be talking about men in black, Georgia Guidstone, CERN, black holes, all the above. Let's get to William and this fun two-hour conversation right now. All right. Today we got William on the show. William, what's going on, brother? How's it going, dude? It's going good, man. So you are the first person I'm recording with in person in the new studio. It's a pretty cool studio, Jim. I mean, Jim did an awesome job in here. It's completely, it's not bright green anymore. Yeah, I know. I know. So I was posting some pictures on social media. And for the audience, I'll post more pictures soon, I would say. And what you'll see is just pretty much the empty finished rooms. I'm not going to post pictures or videos of the studio really finished for a while because it's being pieced together right now. I have a table, like we're sitting at a table right now that you and I just picked up

today from a local and it was made, handmade by a guy, a farmer and he had just recently passed away and his daughter wanted to kind of, I guess, get rid of it for memory purposes. And so I figured, well, I'll take it. It's a sturdy table. Hopefully there's no attachments. Yeah, well, I mean, that's what I was thinking. I was like, well, this is actually probably the perfect situation for the show anyways. I didn't even think about it until right to the second. And I'm actually sitting in one of the chairs that gave me. And so, but yeah, I mean, so this, the studio is going to be a slow progress here. And, you know, just before I get too far off track here, I just want to let the audience know. Today's going to

be a general conversation show with William. And we're going to talk some of his paranormal, a little bit of his paranormal experiences, some interesting things about his life and maybe some current events stuff. We'll just see where the conversation goes. William, if, if I unleash William, he will drop some knowledge bombs. But as much as I've learned in 27 years, I don't have much knowledge. Hey, man. Hey, that takes humility of you to say that. But no, it's just, the studio is going to be a work in progress because though we're sitting at this table, one, it's about two feet shorter in length and about one foot less in width that I'm looking for. And the table that I'm going to have in here in the

long run is actually going to start being built by House Wolf projects. The people can follow him on Instagram. His name's Nate House Wolf projects. And he's going to be building the table. And we're going to put the custom Merkel Media logo engraved in on the table. Yeah, it's going to be an awesome table. But he can't start building it until about August 1st. Yeah, he's working on some other projects. And, you know, so it just takes some time. And you want that big table that just in case Mike Tyson sitting across from your table. So, yeah, well, I'll tell you what. I didn't watch that interview with him and Joe Rogan, the second one, but I heard that he

got a bigger table because of that. So did Mike Tyson seem like he was going to fight him or what? He just seemed like the old Mike Tyson. Really? Just aggressive over. Yeah. Like, call, or what's his name, Cust Diomato? Like, he was back and just gave him a pep talk before.

Wow. Okay. So, yeah, I can see why that feels like it would be a little nerve-wracking. Yeah. So, so yeah, I mean, we got, we got this stuff going and the table coming. And then I have a custom desk being made in Arkansas by a guy named Blake. And I'm drawing a blank as to what their, their Instagram is, the company he works for. But he's building me a custom desk in his own time. And I think that's going to be actually probably done before the table is going to be done.

So he'll deliver it up here. And then while he's here, he'll be sitting at a table like you are. and we're going to be going over his paranormal experiences because he's got stuff. And he's like, you know, we could just record it when I'm there. I said, absolutely, man. He's like, do you want to, you know, give you the whole rundown now? I said, absolutely not, man. Don't want to do it twice. No, no. Like, it's always best the first time. And so that's what I try to, I try to get people to understand is that like, like, if, if you email me and I find your email interesting, we're going to record an interview. And then after that point, you know, we, like, it's all, you know, judgment calls are made, right? But going into that, that's how I like it,

because I like hearing people, people the first time on the recording, because they always tell it the best the first time around, you know? People tend to leave out details the second time they're telling you something. It's just the same thing, like when people are listening on podcasts, and you always know when the host of the show is talking to somebody on video, because the person on video will say, it was this big. Yeah. And the audience listening is like, I don't know what this big is. You know, like, can we get a gauge here, you know? And so, like, it's the same thing where, you know, people will tell you a story and then

they sit down with you a day or two later to do the recording and they'll leave out details because they're like, I already told them that. It's like, yeah, but you have to tell the world that. That's actually a really important thing for the background of this whole thing. Yeah, yeah. Or they'll say, they'll say, like, I told you, like I told you before, I don't want to bore you with the details. Like, no, you're not boring me.

Like, we're here for the details, you know? And you got to tell the whole world. You become tired of your own story and then you also become more efficient and telling it, which an efficient story is not an entertaining story. Right, exactly. An efficient story is a manual. Yeah, exactly. We want the ins and outs, the gritty details.

And it's important because when it comes to the paranormal and stuff, I really believe that people, the audience can help put things together at times by hearing all the details, you know? like if you're telling your whole story and then at the end of it people are like you know he said when he was a kid about five years old he saw that thing out the window and it's not the window but when he was 27 years old this happening might be related but if you didn't tell that little detail seeing that one thing out the window because you already told me and it's just kind of like glossed over right that's a connection that the audience may not be able to make and actually help the person telling the

story down the road so those are those are things that I kind of look out of for his stuff. But anyways, so long story short, Blake's going to come and he's going to bring the desk up when he's when he's finished and we're going to sit down at this table and record with him as well. Do you know what kind of wood it's going to be? They've got some really, depending on where

he is in Arkansas, they've got some really pretty wood up there. I'll tell you what, it's nothing but the best. The biggest, the best. It's going to be heavy then. It's going to be beautiful. The most expensive. Okay, Trump. but uh no like he did tell me but i forget like like most of stuff like people i think kind of

people who deal with me on a regular basis like joel from vantas we were just talking to him and stuff actually he is going to be on your show yeah uh which is pretty cool on the 17th yeah and so i mean we'll drop your show remind me and stuff but um so so we were just talking to joel and people that know me like joel and my team that i film with and stuff they know that like you could tell me something and I really might forget because I just got so many irons in the fire. Like my brain just can't hold all that information. And so, you know, he told me about the, the wood type. And we discussed that.

He's like, do you want this wood or that wood? And I'm like, I don't even remember what I, you know what I told him. I said to him, I said, you pick, man. I think that's what I said. I told him, I said, you're the artist here. I'm not going to tell you how to do your job. if you like it, I guarantee you all like it. Just do your job.

That's the best thing you could have done. That's the best thing you could have done. Because there's some people that, like I carve spoons on the side. Like I'm a spoon carver or a slod carver. And the hardest spoons are the ones where the customers want a specific wood. Like not all wood carves equally. Like oak is not fun to carve with. Heartwood of Mountain Cherry is not fun to carve with because I'm not using power tools.

I'm using hand tools. But yeah, leaving it up to the art. just was a good decision. Good. I mean, like I wouldn't want somebody, and they do, but I don't, I wouldn't want somebody telling me how to produce my podcast, you know, or tell me how to do interviews. Like right now, there's, there's probably like a thousand people that are saying, what is he talking about? He's just talking about a desk. Get to the point. There is no point. Literally, I just told you, like, we're just, we're having an open conversation today. You brought on a farmer. Yeah. I brought on a freaking farmer, okay? Like, this dude grows stuff,

you know, so. Well. Yeah. So he says, right? No, but he really does. I was actually really impressed by the one video you guys put out. So tell people real quick about the podcast or the YouTube channel and the podcast real quick and then we'll get into Texas. So the YouTube channel is Permapestor's Farm, Perma Pasture's Farm, three separate words. And we focus on homesteading, permaculture, preparedness, and they all tie within each other. Permaculture is a design science developed by Bill Mullison and he developed it by studying indigenous cultures. And what did they do to make sure they had food security and also like a cultural security? So we examined all these different civilizations, took what was useful, compiled it into what's called permaculture.

And permaculture is nothing more than an umbrella or a toolbox full of tools that you use for the appropriate job. So one example is like Jeff Lawton, who studied directly under Bill Molison. He went to Jordan, which is below sea level. Jordan, the country, it's below sea level, gets like maybe, maybe four inches of rain per year. And it's all in one event. And he's now greening it. That's using the principles of permaculture. There's a guy named Alan Savory who is, it's either Alan Savory or Allen Nation.

I can't remember. But he's using cows to grain the Sahara Desert. And he's increasing the rainfall per year there. Really? Just by grazing cows correctly. What? And anybody... He's the rain man.

He's the rain man. Wow. Anybody that is concerned with overpopulation of the earth, you don't need to worry. And anybody who's telling that is lying to you. Okay. Conspirating theories. Yeah, we're starting to really.

Anybody who's pushing that is just wanting eugenics. We can fit every person in the entire world in North America, if designed properly, and everybody is comfortable. Really? Yeah. How? Proper design. Yeah.

Yeah, and that's what you do. It just requires proper design. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a permaculture design consultant. Everybody in the house is certified to design permaculture. I studied under Jeff Lawton. Both of my parents have taken their PDCs under Jeff Lawton. Yeah, so Permapestrus Farm, that's what we talk about on the YouTube channel.

And you went to, you lived in Australia for this. I camp in Australia. Yeah, this isn't something that you woke up one day as a senior high school. You're like, I think I want to be a farmer. and you just started doing it and you learn from YouTube videos like you literally traveled across the world

and lived in Australia Canton Australia you killed snakes every day with a shovel I went to war dude they don't have any guns over there man these snakes will kill you they're aggressive

just to learn the the art of what you do of permaculture yeah it's amazing yeah that's amazing and we just started a thanks to you we just started a podcast this earlier this week

we have two episodes out now I love the name it's called Permaculture And for anybody just who's unaware of who we are and stuff like that, pimp stands for permaculture is my passion. So we've taken a nasty word, a dirty word, and turned it into something positive, something that can reach a group of people that wouldn't have otherwise been reached if we said, like, oh, this is the permaculture podcast. Well, that is actually a podcast. I didn't mean to shout him out. Well, we can shout out of anybody, right?

As long as they're quality people. We don't care. Right. But yeah, so permaculture pimp podcast, everybody should check it out. Permaculture pimpcast. That's what I meant. Permaculture pimpcast. That's even a better sound. But, you know, check it out. I actually did listen to a couple episodes today. And it's really good. And they're only going to get better.

Guys, listen, a new podcast always have things to work out and stuff. They're learning their identity as podcasters. They're YouTubers, but it's a totally different game when it comes to podcasting. And I think for the first two episodes that I listened to, they did a really good job. And they're only going to get better. So do them a favor. Do me a favor as their friend. Hit them up on your favorite podcast playing app before you hit play.

give them a five-star rating review, give them a review of, I love this podcast, then hit play and just trust me you're going to like it. I appreciate it. And if you have any gardening or homesteading or farming questions, we're actually going to start taking, we're going to do a voicemail line on the podcast so you can ask your questions if they're long form. And also you can send us your questions through Billy at permapestrishfarm.com. Billy is actually my dad. It's a father and son team. Actually, the whole family's really in on it. When you listen to the podcast, you would probably have a hard time discerning between the two of you guys because you sound very similar. Really? Yeah. Like, just right there, really. Like, that sounds like you had.

I think I said this probably the last time you were on the show because you were on like an intro or something like that. But I remember the first time you came to my house, Lindsay called me from downstairs and said that you were here. And I was coming up the stairs and I heard you talking to Lindsay. And I was like, oh, Billy showed up. and it was just you and I was just you and I was like oh you know I was like dang okay uh but you know that's hey that's that your dad's an awesome guy so that's not even like uh an issue i'm sure i looked out with dads that's for sure parents i looked out with parents yeah so uh yeah that's your podcast that's a youtube channel that's what you guys do and uh i just i brought him up earlier and stuff

i just i do want to give him a shout out uh joel from van tesla uh you guys have been hearing his music as the outro music for quite some time now uh I've been playing a lot of his one song, Heading the Klaus, fantastic song. I like this. And then they just dropped last week, shut up and drive. And that song is like on another level.

And so I play a lot of their music because they're friends of mine and they're really good artists. But Joel just started his own, well, he joined forces with Sean Chris over at Kill the Mockingbirds podcast. And it's, if you like alternative thinking, listen, friends,

a lot of, it's not a secret anymore. People know that I produce. other people's podcasts. I didn't advertise it for years. And some of the people that I podcast or that I produced for, they opted for not having a public connection with me, which is fine. I understand. I'm kind of, you know, crazy. So like, you know, they're like, we want you to produce for us, but we don't want to be connected. That's fine. But then there's people like Charlie Robinson. And Charlie Robinson has a show called macroaggressions. And I do produce that show. It's very much

of an alternative thinking. Let's think about the way the world operates and moves. And let's take the different approach and think about this in an alternative way, you know, not the mainstream way, which is probably the mainstream way for a lot of my listening audience, to be honest with you. But if you like the macroaggressions podcast with Charlie Robinson, you are going to like Sean Chris and Joel Thomas over at Kill the Mockingbirds. You can check them out as well. They are deep. I mean, like they go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep. If you want your brain to be fried, check them out. That's going to be a good idea. Oh, I'm telling you. It's going to be fun. So, yeah, they're going to be on your podcast this coming Sunday.

The YouTube channel. They're going to be on the 17th. Yeah. Okay. It's going to be a live stream, actually. I probably should have told them that. But yeah. I think you did.

I think you did. I think you did. I just messed it up. But yeah, no, they're going to be on and they're going to be dropping knowledge. And you and your dad, I just, I think it's going to be fireworks. So in a good way, in a good way. So, yeah, all that said, guys, check out these podcasts and stuff. Kill the Mockingbirds.

Permaculture Pimpcast. and check them out as well. So anyways, listen, you have some things I want to talk to you about. So we have, you have some paranormal type experiences. You said it's nothing crazy and stuff, which is fine. You know, the show is based off of people who just have their ordinary people and they contact me about their experiences. But you do have an interesting set of, or you have an interesting grandfather and grandmother.

Right. And I definitely want to talk to you about them because it's not every day. I get to talk to somebody with that kind of story of, you know, your lineage and sense. But then maybe we can touch on some weird things have been happening this week. I know you were talking about it earlier today. Stuff, the Georgia Guys Stones, maybe even CERN, how things kind of tie together and maybe do they tie together, stranger things? I know you said you don't really watch stranger things, but you should because it's... I get the premise. The Department of Energy. I know what's going on. No, no, you don't understand until you watch the freaking show. But anyways, you know, not everybody's perfect like me. I've been busy watching peeky blinders.

Which you just educated me on. I have no idea what that is really, but maybe I'll check it out. But let's start off with your experiences and stuff. Do you want to start off with the shadow people or UFO? Let's do the UFO. I figure you just say that because every time I bring it up, you say something about UFO first before the shadow people. Because the shadow people, well, we'll start with the shadow people just so I can talk about that real quick.

The shadow people, when I was younger, I would, like occasionally when I was, I'm sitting there, like, doing nothing as a little kid does sometimes, like sitting there watching TV or something like that. Out of the corner of my eye, I would see a shadow flash, like, from one room to the other room, like going across the hallway and stuff like that. And I never really paid it attention. I just thought it was my eyes messing up. And it happened throughout my childhood, really. I mean, even all the way up until when I was working at, like, the sleep lab. I was a sleep technician at one point.

And I was. What have you not done with your life? You're a farmer, sleep lab technician, used to be an electrician. What else have you? You're 27 years old, man. You have a whole life of experience. Work at a steel mill. I used to be, I used to sell pre-fert equipment. I used to, I've been working for a while, man. I'm very impressed by your 27 years of life. I started driving at 14, man. That's what happens when you live in Kansas. Gotcha. Gotcha. But yeah, the shadow people, I would see these like all the way up till I was working at the sleep lab, which the sleep lab obviously, like it inherently invites certain. entities to a sleep lab. I mean, people are coming there because they're having trouble sleeping, and all of it isn't medical issues. Some of it we cannot fix with like medical treatment or CPAP machine or anything like that, obviously. And I didn't even realize it was anything.

I thought it was just my eyes messing up until I started listening to your podcast. And then I was like, oh, there's a thing called shadow people. Maybe that's what it was. Maybe it's still my eyes messing with me, but I don't see it anymore. So, I mean, there have been like huge changes in my life since since then so like becoming a more solid Christian so maybe that's you think that's a reason why that might be part of it interesting yeah because i'm not there was a incident for for reasons i can't really get into um there was an incident that occurred not too long ago that really woke the whole family up as to what spiritual attacks really are really yeah why can't you get into it it's there's an just us.

It's other people. Yeah, there's other people that are involved that. I mean, we just can't get into that. I got you. Okay, actually, I think I remember you tell me now. I remember, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we can't blast that out. Teaser!

Maybe in a year from now, hopefully. But yeah, and then the, so that's the shadow people. Nothing really, it's just like a bizarre thing. And then I finally made the connection years later as to what that could have possibly been. But as far as the UFO thing. So before you get into the UFO thing, I would say that I too felt the same way as an adult when I was in my apartment and I would see shadows going from my bedroom to my bathroom out of the corner of my eye. I would sit there thinking there was something wrong with me.

You know, I was like, okay, so my eyes are playing tricks on me or like, you know, something like that. And it really wasn't until I was doing this podcast and hearing other people's stories that I was like, I really think that actually. was some kind of residual energy or something, you know? It wasn't just my eyes playing tricks on me. I know, you know, I'm not the most clever person in the world, but I'm also not the slowest either, you know? And I know what I was seeing. And so I understand where you're coming from, where you're kind of second guessing yourself. But yeah, I think that's probably a lot of people who go through that. They just like, ah, and they justify it in their heads. They're like, it's me. It's not you. It's me. It's me. So, yeah.

I just wanted to say I felt the same way. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah. But as far as the UFO, you want to get into that one? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, so the UFO story I have. Now, me and two other friends, we were out in this field just like messing around is, you know,

we're at a friend's house and we're just out in the field like messing around. We were high school age or something like that. And then all of a sudden, this is in Bonner's, no, this is in Baser, Kansas. And maybe 20 miles away is Fort Leyen. Leavenworth, Kansas. And while we're out in the field, we see this green orb, like, these, like, three orbs hovering over the direction of Leavenworth, Kansas. And then, like, they're just, like, hovering around, going in circles, like, just not really doing anything of any consequence. And we're just sitting there watching them. I took a couple photos. Dad still has the photo.

This was back in 2013, and dad still has the photo that I texted him. I called him up and said, hey, I see UFOs, and he's like, get a picture, get a video. So it's on a crappy old 2013 phone, but we still have the picture. I'll send that to you. And then I guess you can post it wherever you want to if you want to. It's just like a green ball. It's nothing, you know, nothing spectacular. And the UFO itself isn't really the spectacular part, and I'll get into that. But I took the picture and then all of a sudden these helicopters come up from Fort Leavenworth and they chase the UFOs away. Really? Yeah, they come up and chase the UFOs away. And that's not even the, spectacular part. Every time I tell this story, I cannot remember who I was with. And I've,

I've told the story multiple times. And each per, it's like, I can't, like, the more I think about it, I cannot picture the face of the people I was with. They were friends. They were friends. And like, every time I told dad the story, he would know before I even told the story, he would have me tell it to him. Because every time I told it to him, I would say that there were different people with me. Not intentionally. I'm not lying about the situation. I'm not intentionally making up these people. It's just, I'm assuming it's certain people. And then when I really think about it, I can't tell you who was there with me. There were two other people there with me, but I can't tell you who. And I have absolutely no idea. Every time I try to think back, I can picture everything about the whole thing clearly,

except for who was with me. I can't even picture their face. That's got to suck because, like, there's two people that you could talk to and say, hey, do you remember and you don't know who to talk to to ask, hey, do you remember to? I have absolutely no idea. Even the kid's house I was at. I can't tell you whose house that was. Are you sure they were friends that you were with? I mean, how can you even know? There's a group of five possibilities. I'm there down to five possibilities. There are two other houses I could have been at and five different people I could have been with at that time in my life. Okay. Yeah. But I can't tell you any more than that. Wow.

Yeah. I have proof I was there. I have proof there were UFOs there. Can't tell you who I was with though. Jeez. And the more I think about it, the more I frustrated. I can't talk. The more I talk about it, the more frustrated I get trying to remember who was with me.

And like even right now I'm getting pissed off about it because I can't figure out who was with me. Yeah, I can understand how that's frustrating. knowing you went through an experience but you can't remember who you went through and the fact that you know you went through it's not even like your imagination because your dad was involved in it and you can confirm I told him to take a picture

he took a picture he sent to me so like we have proof that that night happened it's just you you're not connecting the dots right so and so I mean like and it's not like I can go back through and see like who I was going to high school with and was like hey did you see that UFO with me right did you see that UFO

with me because then I'm just going to be the crazy person at the reunion with I'm not going to go to. Yeah. I wouldn't. Hey, listen, I've been graduated from high school for almost 20 years. And at the 15 year mark, they were trying to do this Facebook thing, getting the whole class together. Let's go out to blah, blah, blah, blah.

And nobody wanted to go. And they're like, we don't understand why it's because nobody likes you. Like the people who are organizing. We're like, we don't like you. And we have Facebook. If we want to connect with each other, we can. And clearly we don't want to connect with each other. Yeah.

And there's that. even if I liked you guys, I wouldn't show up because I'm busy. I got things to do. Yeah, I don't know who has time to go over. I don't play high school games. I don't really care. You guys didn't care that much about me when I was there. Now I'm a podcast and you want to all be my friend, you know? But even if you did, high school is over. Yeah. High school is over, man. It's over. But but there was another UFO experience. Well, pause. Before you go into that, because I'm going to forget what I was going to say if we don't bring it back around. So where does that leave you feeling about that night? Knowing that you're not connecting dots, knowing that you had friends there, knowing it happened because dad can confirm it, where does that leave you as to how you view what happened that night?

You're going to think I got abducted, huh? I actually got something different for you. Really? I know abduction is like my standard line on the show. I'm like, you were abducted. You want to go do some regression? No, no. I got something else for you.

I don't. I honestly don't know what to. think of that night. I know what to think of it. What is your opinion? Go ahead. Tell me what you think. Oh, you don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I really don't know. You were zapped by the men in black, bro. That's possible. I mean, we were 20 miles from Fort Leavenworth. You saw the helicopters chasing it away. What if there was a ground crew that came up and zapped all of you and you guys remember maybe the technology isn't up to snuff? And they're like, we know it's going to raise something and you just you got the memory, but you can't remember who you were with. What if you were zapped, man? Maybe if maybe there wasn't even a guy. I don't. I remember getting there. I don't. I

I don't remember leaving. I'm saying, bro. I drove. Oh, dude. See, we're uncovering regression therapy right here. Listen, this is no extra charge to him, but for you, it will be. Continue. Yeah, dude, I remember getting there.

I don't remember leaving. Dude, I really can't tell you. Wow. Do you remember what, like, what's your, the first memory you have after the event? Is it, like, days after? Like, you can't remember connected dots between the event. to that later that night where you remember walking to your room or is it like the next memory you have is like three, four, five weeks later you're talking your dad about, you know,

how you guys got a picture of a UFO. You just can't connect the dots as to how it all kind of came together. That, no, I don't remember any of that. Dude, I don't remember anything after leaving. Like, the next memory I have is maybe like at school. Wow. Which could have been how long day was like that maybe like two days but like my if you had ever met my dad like my dad is um maybe one day yeah for sure but he he's not the type of person to have not brought that up like it would have been brought up as soon as i got home and we would have discussed it for maybe like does he remember a discussion about it yeah i mean he remembers everything about the situation he remembers like who i said i was with at the time he remembers who i was with at the time he knows like he remembers

every detail about it. When I get home, I'll have to ask him, like, hey, did we talk about the UFO when I got home? Because I really don't, that's something we would have definitely talked about. Like, dad isn't, he's not one to just let that go. I mean, he will ask you questions about the most mundane details. Yeah. Just because he's that type of person.

He wants to know every aspect of what happened. And if something isn't lining up, he's going to keep questioning until something makes sense. Yeah. As a good dad should. as a good day. Yeah, exactly, especially in high school. Yeah, so we need to know exactly what happened tonight. Exactly. Let me see your eyes. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, man, that is crazy. I haven't even thought about that part. Yeah, man. It's like the after part. Yeah. So, I mean,

my first thought with that whole thing was, was their tampering. So maybe I wouldn't have thought about this five years ago. But the fact that where we are in the world, the government coming out holding hearings about UFOs in the sky like we just had a few months ago like there's clearly a shift in the collective consciousness in this country globally

when it comes to this topic which allows people like me to advance our thinking into from theorizing about certain things to having more emotional confirmation about things maybe not factual but we're like

I'm pretty sure this happens because I know for a fact this happens which five years ago I couldn't say that because they weren't saying this happens. You know what I'm saying? So like the fact that they're coming out and they're saying certain things that they're in possession of crafts that were not made here on earth and all that stuff, like, which I think could be a huge sigh-up. Because of that. According to Carol Rosen, is it Carol Rosen?

Carol Rosen? It is a sci-op. According to her. I'm sure. Like, no, I mean, I really think that we're participating in a mess. massive sci-up without our ability to pump the brakes on it. Because if you're one of the ones aware that you're involved right now, you're living through a sci-up, you're one of the few that are awake to that idea. And everybody else is just pushing you through the space of time with them

participating in this. And so here's what I think. I've come to this conclusion recently. And I'm not saying it's factual. I'm happy to be wrong. If somebody proves me otherwise, I'm fine with that. I don't care. I don't care about being wrong. There's no ego here. I do believe personally at this moment, now my thoughts could change a week from now, but I think that what they are showing us videos of UFOs in the sky and Fravor, I think that's your pronounce his last name, Commander Fraver, and what his experience, he's 100% truthful. These guys are 100% truthful, I believe. But I think it's ours, and I think we were testing our new technology on our professional fighter pilots to see how professional,

fighter pilots would react to such things in the sky so they can properly project how their enemies would react to said thing in the sky. And that's how these things knew where they were going because it was us. Yeah, that's what I think. I think that's entirely possible, probably given, probably from the technology given to them. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, whether it's alien technology given to us, reverse engineered technology. The thrill maidens. A virile, demonic, whatever you want to say it is, you know, like I follow an angel technology. Like we can, you can go all down those paths, right? But I do think they're in the no. And I think

that hearing and the administration that there, whatever it is, that those two guys and what they're doing, we're investigating and the guys like up there, he's like, you know, when I was a kid growing up, I really like Star Wars and I'm one of you. I used to go to Comic Con. It's like, no, you're not one of us. Dude, you're like

stop trying so hard because that's a red flag, bro. Like don't sit up there in Congress telling us, oh, I used to dress up in costumes. Like, we don't care about that, dude. If you think we care about that, it tells me that you're trying to play a sci-op. Yeah. You're trying to get me to like it.

We don't care about cosplay. Look at you. You're wearing a suit with stars on it. I don't trust you. You know? First of all, you're wearing a suit. I don't trust you. Exactly.

But all that said and stuff, I mean, backtracking to the men and black situation, I think that, you know, given the fact that we have all this information to us right now and they're admitting certain things right now, it leads me to have the ability of the wiggle room to say, okay, if this is true, then this, what I used to ponder and think, ah, it's probably just Will Smith. Like, it's more true to me today than it was five years ago. So we know the men in black are real, right? And there's people today living that probably you could consider a modern day man of black.

I'm not going to mention his name right now because, you know, I'm being respectful and I'd like to actually talk to him and let him say that to the audience. But the fact is, I do think that there was some kind of organization that had men involved in these things, and you could say they were the men in black. And I think that the technology is probably there to most certainly there. If Elon Musk is developing Neurlink and putting chips in our brains and getting, and his goal is for man to be able to control things with his mind, right?

If Elon Musk, a private citizen can do that, what the heck? what the heck goes behind the deep underground military basis doors with unlimited taxpayer funding bro unlimited unlimited right and if they do run out they can just print more i'm saying man like it's free money yeah for them so i mean uh we're not selling gold or silver on this show yet um but uh but yeah so i mean i think it's a possibility that hey you saw you have a memory and maybe the technology is imperfected maybe they didn't have a dialed in properly or whatever i don't know, but what if you saw, you have a memory of having the, I'm assuming, helicopters, fighter jets chasing these things off? It didn't even seem aggressive. It seemed like they just

popped up and then went towards them and then just followed them for a while. It, it didn't seem aggressive at all. So it could have been ours and they were just, it was, what you witnessed was the second half of the drill, you know? And also, how is it not aggressive? I mean, how would they not react aggressively. It's Fort Leavenworth. This isn't a joke. Sure. This is Fort Leavenworth. Unless they knew what it was, it say it wasn't theirs. Yeah. Okay. But they knew what it was. And they're like, we're not going to act aggressively because we know what this is. And if we act aggressively, we all screwed. Kansas is gone. Yeah. Bye, by Kansas, which, no, who thinks of Kansas anyways when they're taking? I mean, honestly, like, I just drove through Kansas going out to Utah a few

weeks ago, right? And I was like, well, one is true. It's really flat. And there's not a whole lot here. That's Western Kansas. I lived in Eastern Kansas where there's actually a little bit of terrain. Oh, it'd be popping out there. There's a little, there's some hills. There's some good stuff there. No, I mean, there's certain states, and obviously if you're from Kansas, you don't feel this way because you live there. But there are certain states that the collective conscience in this country don't think about. Like, everybody, whether you're in Kansas or Maine, you think about California. You think about New York, you know? But I guarantee. you, most New Yorkers, most Californians, they're not thinking about Kansas.

No. You know, like, especially. Unless they're watching KU basketball. Right. Yeah. They're a Syracuse fan. Exactly. And they still don't connect the dots.

Like, yeah, I watched Kansas basketball, but I thought that was a city. Yeah. You know? So it's just, you know, it is where it is. But, yeah, I, dude, I really think that there's a possibility that whether you witness a UFO and them coming in to intervene or maybe you witnessed a UFO. a UFO and they're coming up and saying, all right, let's take our drone UFO thing over here now and land it where it's supposed to, this is just the part of the process, you witnessed it,

and then, you know, maybe some dudes came out and humvees, they gave you the little flashy rue and you just don't remember. How else do you explain this, this forgotten memory? I mean, they could have also gotten me, I went to public school. They could have gotten me anytime in, like, school. So I'm aware of the crap they try to pull. Yeah, I went to public school. So they could have me at school. I mean, they could have got me really at any point. And obviously, I don't remember it. But yeah, I mean, dude, that's crazy. Can you imagine the men in black coming into your school to get you? And you were running through the halls, jumping trash cans, scrambling for the window. You were halfway out. They caught you by the back of your pants. They pulled you in. They flashed

and you don't remember any of that action. That would suck, man. I went to all that, did all that cool stuff, jumped over trash cans, bused through the razor wire windows. Oh, man. Oh, man. man, and I don't remember any of it, dude. I just laid out an action movie. Yeah, that's, you know? You're going to have to collect royalties on that one. If anybody takes that. That's my life, y'all. I'm telling you, dude.

Like, we're working on some things behind the same. Well, I've been talking about on Instagram, but I don't know if I should talk about it. I won't talk about it. If certain things, if you tune into the Instagram, hey, this is a good reason for me to promote the Instagram. I spill the beans on Instagram lives a lot that I shouldn't. And my team is like, yo, bro, like, you might want to back off with saying certain things and I'm like, what? I don't get it, you know? Tony drops some info on his

Instagram. Like, he has a very active Instagram. It's been dormant the past few months because of the moving stuff, but I finally, the renovated office is here. Now we're just waiting for the furniture, but I'm here. I'm working again. It feels great. And part of that process is getting back on the Instagram lives, saying hi to people. I go in there. I go live with no agenda. I start talking. People start commenting. I read the comments. And then their comments feed more conversation. And I go for an hour sometimes, or more. But anyways, I drop a lot of stuff on there that I'm not going to drop here because I'm trying to be more guarded because I guess in this rare moment of sanity, I'm trying to be more clear-minded.

But there's some really big things coming down the pike possibly. And if they develop and they happen, obviously the listening audience will be tuned into that and made aware. But if you want to get the behind-the-scenes information when Tony just starts talking and has no filter. You want to tune into the Instagram. So go ahead. His Instagram was awesome. Anyways, so those are your UFO stories. You had another UFO story, right?

Right. Yeah, and it's just a brief small one. I was actually on the phone with that. I was in Towson, New Mexico. I was studying at the Earthship Biotechure Academy. I was learning how to build Earthships and stuff. Tell people what Earthships are before you go any further. And Earthship is like the ultimate permaculture house. It provides your, it's like passive solar and heating. There's a greenhouse.

up front. It collects all your water. You're on solar panels, so it collects all your energy. It uses the water four times. It's built with tires. If you want more, like, it's a very in-depth, like, complex system. Not too complex. Like, you easily understand it, but you just need to see a picture. So if you Google, like, Earth ships, that's what you would find out. It was actually based off Noah's Ark. Like, you needed everything on Noah's Art to survive. Oh, that fiction story got it. Yeah. Yeah. But you needed everything on Noah's Ark to survive. the flood, right? So your house needs to have everything you need to survive the coming flood. Yeah. So that's kind of where it came from. Interesting. But I was out there, like I was driving back

to Earthship biotechristure as night. I'm talking to dad on the phone. And all of a sudden there's like this red orb that like shoots down. I think it's a shooting star at first. And it shoots down from the top of my like windshield. It's up in the sky. And it shoots down from the top left of my windshield. Shoots down to like about the middle of my windshield. And I'm still thinking it's a shooting star until it shoots off at an angle back towards the right side of my windshield, and then it just like zooms off in hurry and like disappears. And I'm on the phone with dad while this is happening. I'm like, hey, this is a UFO.

There's a UFO right in front of me. And there was no time for me to get the camera out or anything like that. Sure. Yeah, that was it. That was, which I think there's a ton of activity that happens or that you're able to see in those high altitude deserts. Because the atmosphere is so thin. I was at like 7,000 feet. The atmosphere is so thin.

I mean, you really realize how much stuff is moving up in the night sky when you're in a high altitude desert like that. Yeah. Yeah. Or if you do like a long exposure photo. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

I like how the new iPhones, they have the long exposure and you can take really good night photos and stuff. And I have a Sony A7 that takes really good night pictures. It's similarly. And it, you really conceal. lot with with that and it's just it's kind of cool and I actually think it's kind of cool for the the idea of ghost hunting if that's what you want to call it like you can go out to like an old building and you know I would suggest putting your phone on some kind of tripod to hold it still but do that and it takes great night pictures and if you take a picture of like say an old building you know maybe you'll

see something in the window that you normally wouldn't see and stuff I know if you got to fix that microphone oh yeah it keeps dropping I know it keeps dropping I don't know why you got to tighten it a little tight of there, Jr. That's as hard as I can get, man. There we go. Like I said, this is the first time I've ever used these stands. It's these tabletop stands where it's like a heavy bottom and stuff. And I bought them a couple of years ago for when I do live stuff and I just never got a chance

to use them yet. You're good, man. Yeah, we use the same ones at home. And it does the same exact thing. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. Cheap things.

All right. Well, Gator framework. You got to improve the design here, guys. Yeah, you need to stick your gasket. Yeah, she's a whiz, I'll tell you, throw them under the bus. But yeah, so that's interesting about the UFO. And when you see that kind of stuff, it's easy, like you said, is it shooting stars and meteor?

Am I seeing things? But when the thing changes directions, when you see them changing speed, changing colors, like, okay, all right, logical brain out the window, bring in, at least this way I'm going, all the other alternate theories, guys. We're going down the hole tonight. What are we looking at?

It's open for interpretation. And my interpretation is a little crazy. Especially when you see it change directions with no acceleration. Like there's no change in speed at all. It just is going one direction and then all of a sudden it's going another direction. And any human that would have been in there would have died unless it was like anti-gravity, which I guess it would have been like, yeah. That's, yeah.

It's interesting when you talk about that stuff, like the idea of any human would die moving that kind of G-force and all that stuff. I understand the idea behind it as far as we understand science and physics and all that craft to be, somebody would die. But what if there is this like other type of technology that they created within the craft or just on the outside of the craft that changes the environment of the craft so that any biological beings there don't feel the effects of the G-Force that the craft is going through? It's like a force field. Like I know I'm going down science fiction, but hey, we're living. in a weird world. No, I think that's what Bob Lazzar was talking about. Oh, see, I'm as smart as him, guys. Well, no,

when he was, he was talking about, like, how are people, like, or how are the entities doing it without dying? Yeah. And he explained it was, like, the, um, the mode of transportation that they were using. It was, like, creating a vacuum in front of the the ship. So it was constantly falling into, like a vacuum, like a gravity

vacuum or something. Gotcha. Um, and he explained it way better than I just did. But that's basically how they're not dying, turning 90 degrees at like however many thousands of miles they're going. Interesting. But yeah, it's based on like their means of propulsion, I think. Bob Lazar is ironically, even after appearing on Rogan and being around for so long with such a consistent story, he's massively underrated in my mind. He's not talked about enough in the UFO circles. And maybe it's his fault. I know he's guarded. He doesn't do,

he doesn't like guys, trust me. People to this day, you should have Bob. the Zarns show. It ain't, if it was that easy, he'd be on everybody's show. Like, listen, I'm no Joe Rogan. I don't have that kind of poll, you know. I wish. I've tried. Trust me. I've bought his artwork. I've had him sign it just so I could put in the notes. Please come on my show. I've done it, guys. I've done it. Like, I went on his website. I ordered, I ordered his sketches and had it and selected the option of having him sign it. And you have to say, well, sign to what? The message. And I'm like, you can sign to Tony Merkel and please come on my show. and I get the signed thing, but, you know, the email stays silent. I wonder how many purchases he gets just like, like, please come on my show. All of his, all of his customers are people with podcasts. Like, like, I'm saying, like, if his art goes up in price, you know why, because he's trying to sift out all the people trying to get him. It's like, it's like, $500 piece, and all the podcasts are like, okay, never mind. I'll pay $500 if I can get $5 on the show straight up.

Like, I've never paid for somebody to come on the show before. I would pay for that. Yeah. Straight up. Like, I might sell my truck. The one you just got. Yeah, you know. But probably not.

But still, my wife would kill me. Well, you got a backup. What you mean? Right. Huh? You have two vehicles, right? Yeah, yeah. Worst case scenario.

Yeah. It's worth it, right? For Bob Lazar? Yeah. Yeah. She won't understand. She won't understand, but it's easier to ask for forgiveness, right? Right.

Then. We use that quite a bit than permission. Yeah. Yeah, permission. There's a word out there I'm supposed to get with this phrase and can't think of it. Thank you. Permission. Yes. That works. Listen, so yeah, you were Zat by the Men in Black. You saw a UFO. We talked about Bob Azar. Listen, like, those are your personal experiences, right? Let's kind of zoom out a little bit because your farmer will, you know, and you do all. all that stuff, but you do look into alternate thinking. I don't know how to describe it, because I very much hesitate to, because I do think it's almost like a slap in the face in a sense when I describe people like you or Charlie Robinson or Joel from Van Tesla as conspiracy theorists, conspiracy realists, conspiracy analysts. There's not a whole lot of theory behind a lot of the stuff because of the cards being laid on the table. So you do go down that road and you were talking

circles around me earlier today was something I forget. Again, I forget a lot of stuff. We talked about a lot of stuff today. We did. We did. We, we were on another podcast and it's just like we were just all over to place. So, like, so what was I saying? We're talking about what we talked about earlier? About like a conspiracy thinking. So yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got a couple of things that happened this week. And I just kind of want to dive into conversation. I don't know where it's going to go because I think I even told you to pump the brakes. I remember telling you, don't tell me.

Yeah. But stop talking about this because save it for the recording. Yeah. I hate doing repeat conversations. If you want me to quit the show, all you have to do is make me do a conversation twice for every interview. I will quit the show. I don't want to do it repeat a conversation where I know what I'm going to ask and I know what the answer is going to be. I will smash my face off the table repeatedly.

I get it. It would drive me nuts. I get it. Yeah, I just need you to keep it fresh. So we're, we're, let's, uh, let's start off with what people are saying is the cause. CERN. What are your, like, so CERN fires up this week. And in my world, people know what CERN is.

Right. And I assume that if I know what CERN is, everybody knows what CERN is. Not true. Right. You know, and I'm finding that out. So, like, I have my neighbors. And listen, I moved to Tennessee. I am surrounded by freaking awesome people.

My neighbors, they moved from California. They're freaking awesome living right next door. They're doing their, they got a better garden than me. You've seen a garden. Yeah, they have a good garden. It's growing. It's big. They're doing the composting.

doing their thing. And I'm like, yeah, these are my people, you know. And we've been over their house for dinner and the kids play together. I'm just like, man, I've really found my spot, right? Yeah. And so because I've gotten so comfortable with them, uh, that she, she and, and, and Marco, her husband, uh, we have this group text thread. And she, she, she asked about the Georgia guidestones. And, uh, I, I, I, I kind of told her what the Georgia guidestones were, but then I was mowing my lawn the other day. And again, I forget things. Right. And so I'm listening to Clyde Lewis from Ground Zero. I love him. I've been listening to him since middle school.

I would like, okay, so we were talking earlier with Big Josh from Black Diamond Guns and Gear. And we're talking about fanboying. Now that I think about it, I wouldn't fanboy with Clyde Lewis, but I would be extremely appreciative to be able to spend an hour talking to the guy. I would annoy him to no end. It's like like he is a huge, a very huge reason why I think the way I think today. I spent years driving truck listening to Clyde Lewis every day. And the way he thinks is like nobody I've ever seen before. He's able to entertain any possibility without giving a yes or no towards it. Right.

It's an educate you. He's not just saying like, well, being wishy-washy, he is going to give you real information without telling you what to think. And that is one of the biggest things I picked up from him over the years. Listen, when I do this show, we interview people, and some people have crazy stories

that you never thought you'd ever hear outside of a Hollywood movie set, right? And at the end of the interview, when I'm done recording with them, and I release that conversation in the world, it's up to the audience to decide what they think. How do you view this? What do you think?

I'm not sitting here to tell you what to think, how to view things. If you should believe, not believe, that's your decision. And I picked up that whole philosophy and mindset from Clyde, because that's how he is. And I love it. Anyways, I was listening to him and he was doing a CERN show. And I was like, yeah, man, he's dropping bomb. He's talking about Oak Ridge, which is right next to me, you know, and he was talking about Oak Ridge, yeah, I'll say it. He was talking about Oak Ridge. Oh, should I say it? You got it. I won't say what I told you. Should I say?

Let me just start off with the Oak Ridge and we'll see how where this goes. So, yeah, I might say it. They're just like, shut out of me to say! Listen, I'm really excited that I'm in the studio these days. I've been chomping at the bit to do this.

So he was talking about CERN and Oak Ridge. Now, Oak Ridge is where they developed the nuclear bomb. The one that was dropped in Japan for World War II. And it's a top secret facility to this day. You ain't getting in there. I know somebody who is hired to be a sniper over there. And yeah, I just met him this past week and he's an interesting dude for sure. Maybe I'd like

to have him on the show or a show because I'm thinking about starting, I'm not going to call it this, but I'm thinking along the lines of the Tony Merkel show or something. I'm not going to call that. Sounds so corny. But just that I talking about whatever you want to talk about. Whatever I freaking want to talk about, you know what I mean? Like, listen, there's sometimes I don't want to talk about paranormal. There's other, there's other interesting people I find in the world that I'm just like, dude, you survived a bear attack? Let's talk about it.

You know? It's not paranormal, but let's talk about it, you know? So he's one of those guys. He's very interesting life. But he's, he's over there. And CERN has, not only are they doing nuclear physics and nuclear science. They also have a, that's it CERN, I meant Oak Ridge. Yeah.

They have a particle accelerator over there like CERN. Oh, they do. It's just a smaller one. I don't care how big it is. I know. I know. And here's the thing. Here's the thing, dude.

Here's the thing. Okay. Oak Ridge. So we have particle accelerators in this country. Like, they're not just in Oak Ridge. There's several. I think there's one in Utah, Nevada, something there out there. But there's several.

But Oak Ridge, not too long ago. I think 2019, 2020, they, talked about how they are, I forget the name of the experiment. It's probably not an experiment, but whatever they're calling it. It's called mirror something. I forget what it's called mirror something at Oak Ridge

and they were talking about trying to open portals. And people freaked out. And when they freaked out, people were like, oh, that was like tongue in cheek. We were just kind of kidding. It's like, dude, you're scientists. You don't just kid. You don't have a sense of humor.

Yeah. You know? And speaking of scientists at Oak Ridge, Dude, just this past week, I met a guy who's a sniper over there. I met one of their scientists. Oh, wow. I know one of their scientists. No sense of humor, huh?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't get to know that well. That wasn't a lead into that. I don't know. He seemed like a very pleasant individual, very nice guy. And I was like, that's really cool, you know? So I'd like to talk to him, but I'm sure he's going to be like, no, there's nothing paranormal going over here. You're crazy.

I'm like, yeah, you're probably right. I probably am crazy. But, you know, let's talk about it. Yeah. But, yeah. So there's that. We had that right in our backyard. But then there's CERN overseas. And I assume that people just know what CERN is. But backtracking to my neighbor, I'm mowing my lawn. And I'm listening to Clyde Lewis talking about CERN. And my neighbor, she's carrying some garden stuff. And I stopped my lawmower because in my head, I'm thinking, oh, she just text me about CERN the other day. She texted me of Georgia Guidestones. And I stop my, and I'm like, I'm listening to a talk. right now about CERN. She's like, oh, yeah, what is that? I'm like, you don't know what CERN is? Yeah. I'm like, how do you know? And then it hit me. I was like, oh, we were talking about Georgia

Guystone's played off, played off, played off, played off. She's not ready. No, but I did. I dropped the knowledge on her and she's like, I want you to tell me more about CERN. I was like, oh, I told her, I said, I said, listen, it gets deep. It gets real deep. And she's a, she's a school teacher. And so, but it's really cool to have neighbors that are open to this kind of stuff. Like when I remember, uh, they asked me, what, so what do you do for living? I was like, uh, how long do you have? It's a hard question for people who don't have nine to five jobs. Yeah. Like, it's hard for me to explain to people what I do. Yeah. Without, you know, going, like making them go crazy because I won't stop talking. Yeah. Exactly. Uh, and so, like, it's funny.

Um, uh, and it depends on who you're talking to as to how you describe what you do for living. Right. Right. So like, uh, say I'm at church and I'm meeting some new church people, you know, we're a new church kind of thing. And they're like, what do you do for a living? Oh, I'm a podcaster. Yeah. Well, that obviously goes to the next question. What do you talk about?

Right. And with the church people, what am I going to say? Oh, I talk to people about demons and witches and I talk to Satan. And we're like, get behind me, Satan, you know? So I'll lead in with the, oh, I run a media company. Oh, really? What do you do? We have podcasts over there.

We do podcast production or we're doing films and working on books. working on books and comic books and coloring books for children and cartoons possibly in the future and kind of bury it like that and stuff just to let them get familiar with me before I hit them with the heaters, you know, because eventually it's going to have it, you know? Because I can't not be myself, but I can kind of give you who I am without giving you all of me. Do you know about dog man? They're like, isn't that a kid's cartoon? Not really.

Not really. It's terrifying. But anyways, so she didn't know. And so I assume that people know and they don't know. So there's that, CERN. CERN fired up this week, and it is a particle accelerator in Switzerland and France. It goes underneath ground 17 miles in diameter. It goes underneath the border of both countries.

And they smash particles together. And their goal, their mission is to basically re-engineer, deconstruct reality to find what the essence of reality is made of. This Higgs boson particle is what they're looking for. and we call it the god particle and they did find it i think they found it in 2018 2017 something like that i think 2018 uh they did they found it right and and and and and and what is that like what like is it like is it stable you know certain the certain scientists would say yeah it's stable it's fine you know uh really you know like like like maybe we want to think about this well we we we know for a fact it's fine you know like like we'll talk about

You know, they'll say, yes, yes, black holes technically are possible. Yeah. But if they're possible, they're just these tiny things that are just blips and they just, boof, and then they're gone. They're not, they've got to grow and suck the whole universe. It's like, how do you know, though, without actually doing it? If you have a statue of Shiva out in the front lawn. I'm saying.

Dude, you're not doing anything good. It's the goddess of destruction. I'm saying. She doesn't have a side job. So, like, what is that? I mean, we're talking about, like, literally, probably the most, at least public, world-leading scientists organization. They have tens of thousands of world-leading scientists working there. It's underneath two countries.

It's underneath two countries. They're breaking grounds with science. They're smashing particles together at almost a speed of light. They're setting new records every day. That's a huge investment for something you don't know is going to, like, if you're claiming that you don't know what's going to happen, have theories about what's going to happen. So you build a, was it, like 22 mile long underground tunnel that works at speed of light, like almost the speed of light and you're shooting particles together. And you don't know what's going to happen. You invested a lot of...

Theoretically, you know what's going to happen. But you haven't applied it yet. Right. And you have Shiva on your front lawn. Yeah. And when you open a new tunnel, you have some weird ritual ceremony that you say, oh, it's just a dance party. Yeah. It ain't no dance party, dude. I've seen it. Okay. And that gives me the Satan vibes all over, you know? Like, I'm like, That's evil in there. You know what's going on. You know what's going on. It ain't nothing good.

I'm just like, yo, seriously, bro. Like, I know I'm not the brightest dude, but stop dreaming like I'm the slowest dude, you know? And before we start going opening portals and stuff like that, let's find out what's in the ocean. I'm saying it. Let's get to the bottom of that first. So the guy I met, that's the sniper over at Oak Ridge and stuff. He's one of the country's best snipers we ever had in the military. And it was Fourth of July.

We were at a party. And so I don't know if he was serious or he was in a few deep. And he just said something to be joking and not knowing who I, because he didn't know what I do for a living yet. Like I dropped the bomb after I let him share the details. You know, it's like, oh, by the way, you just told the wrong person, bro. I've been talking for six months. I'm going to get this information.

But he's like, he's like, yeah, he's like, because I forget how we brought it up and stuff. but he was in the military and he's like, I just got hired over at Y12. And I was like, oh, really, what do you do over there? And he's like, I'm a sniper. I was like, really? And he's like, he's like, yeah, you know, he's like, I got to shoot what comes through to portals or something like that.

He said something of that nature to me. And I was just like, sounds like they're harvesting aliens over there. I was like, here's some water. sober up meet me over there in five minutes we need to talk you know like I was like oh you just hit my funny bone yeah and he had no idea who he was even talking to he had no idea man like he was like I was like should I tell him you know I told his wife or his girlfriend I don't know much but like he and she knows I was just texting him the day and stuff he's pretty chill guy but uh yeah I would

like to have him in for a conversation one day just to be all Like he has so many stories just from his service. Like it, I mean, seriously, I don't even want to say even the direction it's going to go in because if it happens, I want to let him do it because what I don't want to, I don't want to put him in an awkward position. Right. But he's got some amazing stories. Just does he want to talk about it? Because like, like anybody listening that's been in the service, reality is sometimes people had to do things that they were not proud of, you know. And sometimes it took them a long time to get over what they had to do.

Right. And I don't know his details, but if it is in that direction and he doesn't want to share, I don't want to go into details that could lead to people to think that he has done things that he regrets. You know what I mean? So I just trying to play it safe all around. But a really cool dude. I met the scientist dude. Like, I was just like, jackpot, you know? I mean, so anyways, we got served firing up this week. First time, it's fired up in, I think, three, four years. And they're saying they're going to run it for an entire year. And so, if this week is result of CERN, then we got a long year to go. Yeah.

So they're going to run it all year long. And wow. Yeah. That doesn't seem like it. Like it's never been. It's there have been disasters every single time they ran it. Like this isn't a beneficial thing for anybody. And they have to know what is going on.

There's no way they don't know what is happening every time they fire that thing up. And coincidentally, I don't know if it is coincidence or if it's correlation or what, but. You know, the Georgia Guystone just mysteriously blew up really at the same time. Yeah. So is that coincidence? Are they related? What is happening? You know, all right, before we go into that, okay?

I just want to put this question out to the audience. And I asked this on IG, on my IG live again, go to the IG. And people actually, it surprised me. People were really on board for this idea. I just would like to hear from the listening audience. Just go to our IG on this show's picture for the show art. Just comment, yes, I would love to have that or no, don't waste your time or whatever. If I could, there's a possibility, probably not strong, but there's a possibility I might be able to get a scientist from CERN on the show.

Oh, wow. If I can get that scientist on the show, he is not going to give us what you want to hear. He's not going to talk. He's, he's going to shoot down every conspiracy theory thrown at him about CERN. Would, knowing that, would that be an interview you'd still like to hear? Because the way I would approach it is, let me ask you what CERN is. Pick your brain about it, just an open conversation. And I would ask him, what do you, why do you think the organization of CERN, whoever

the decision makers are, put Sheva on the front lawn? Do you as the scientist know what Shiva is? What do you say as to purpose of that is? I'm assuming you're not part of the statute committee. Why do you think that you guys held this ceremony? Do you personally, as a human being, facts aside of what you know it to be, do you, from the outside looking in, can you see why people would think it's some kind of satanic ritual? Does it not give you creepy vibes as the scientist?

Those are kind of questions I would ask him, but knowing that he's going to say, no, the black holes are impossible or they will not hurt us. And no, CERN is perfectly fine. It's not reversing time or anything like he's going to give us the stereotype answers. Would that be of interest to the audience? Yeah, I think so, especially if you use like the Socratic method of debate with them. A lot is going to be revealed just by asking correct questions. Yeah. I think if you use the Socratic method of debate, it would be highly effective against a person like that.

Well, that would require me to know what that is. You got time. You got time. I'll hook you up, man. Okay, Socratic method. Okay. I just talk to people. It's a highly effective way to get information.

It's not like, it's not underhanded or anything like that, but you're asking questions that require a response. And based off that response, you ask another question and you can get exactly the information that you need. That might be hard for me. Like, I just kind of say whatever comes to my mind. So you're good. What comes to your mind is most likely the correct. You were partially doing it just now whenever you were asking, like shooting out the questions you were going to ask them and stuff like that. You were on the right track of the Socratic method of debate.

Yeah. I just felt short a little bit. I'll figure it out. You're good, man. Okay, cool. So, yeah, we possibly going to do that. I mean, listen, if people really want it, I'll really try hard to pursue it. I just can't guarantee it's going to happen because,

I mean, he might look at me and be like paranormal podcasts. Know what you want to talk about. And I just don't feel like that headache today. You just don't know. What was that one book? It talked about CERN. It was like a fiction book. Angels and Demons.

The Dan Brown book. Yeah. He talked about, yeah, Angels and Demons. And it was like a whole, it was a fiction book. Yeah. I think they made a movie out of it. Tom Hanks was in it, right? I don't know.

Tom Hanks is not a good dude. I don't like him. Well, it's a perfect movie for him, though. Because he's talking about Angels and Demons. But it talks about, it talks about, oh, that. No, no, no, no, we can't. Oh, okay. Angels.

Okay, now that I'm thinking about, though, Tom Hanks' movie, Angels and Demons, it sounds very Da Vinci-esque type. It's the same writing. Okay, got you. Yeah, the DaVern. Dan Brown, I think, was his name. But they talked about CERN in the movie, and, like, they had created antimatter, and somebody stolen the antimatter from Cern, and now they're just causing havoc or across the

world and stuff like that. You know, is that predictive programming? I'm saying it probably already happened. You know, we may not even remember it. The people who did it may not remember it because they shift it to this into a completely different time frame, time zone, universe, parallel universe. I don't freaking know. I may not be the original Tony.

I don't get it. All I know is it probably happened, you know? Yeah. If you put a gun to my head and say, make a decision, I'd be like, okay, yeah, it probably happened. It probably happened. So do you think it ties in with the Georgia guy zones? Uh, maybe, maybe, uh, if not, if, if nothing direct or whatever, like, maybe just the, the, um, it would, I think it would require CERN to legitimately be connected to, uh, the motivations of the Georgia guidestones. So the Georgia guidestones and the motivations behind their erection. So, but the, the, the, the, the fact that, the, the, the, the fact that,

You know, there's debate as to what, what, why they were erected. So, um, the, the, the, the official line is that there was the Cold War and we were really worried. People were really worried that would be nuclear fallout. So there's, this fictional person, R. C. Christian, nice real name, approached a banker, said, I want this design built. I need a loan for it. Boom. Uh, under conditions of you got a promise, you never really reveal my identity. The, uh, granite company that, that built the structures. Once they have built them, they had it go and burn all documentation of it.

It had to be all hush, hush, right? Why though? Right? So they built these things because they wanted to leave rules for humanity. The surviving humans after the fallout, they needed some kind of understanding and rules of life.

The new 10 commandments is what they go about. Is the new 10 commandments. They're written in I think eight different languages. The first one is limit the global population to 500 million people. I think that's that's at the bottom. No. Are you sure?

I mean, probably not. Mandela Effect, I'll claim. So it's on the list, okay? But then as some of these other rules pop in, I mean, some of them on the surface, you're like, yeah, it makes, you're like, let's take care of the planet. Most of them except for two, I think, are like general good statements. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, there is that, right? So that's the official. And I talk to the guy. There's only one person in this entire world who knows who the true identity of R.C. Christian is. The guy's like 93 years old, talked to him on the phone for like 30 minutes, won't give it up. And I was actually thinking about going down and visiting him in Georgia. But since what happened this past week, I don't know if that would be like a red flag to any kind of agency. And they're like, what?

I bet you can't even get in contact with that dude right now. I have his number. I mean, I could call him again. But, I mean, in fact, you know what's crazy is that about a week after, I talked to him on the phone, he called me and I missed the phone call. And talk about like memory forgetting for months. I would, like I saw I miss something. Oh, crap, I got to call him back.

And I would forget and I forget. And every time I remember, I couldn't call him because in the moment, like, I'd be like in church praying to Jesus. And I'm like, oh, I got to call him. You know? And then I forget when I get out of church, you know? And so like, like, it's been so long now. It's like, ah, man, it's like almost starting over, you know? But I don't know why he called me back.

because I called him out of the blue. He had no idea who I was. Yeah. I did my snooping. I got his personal phone number. I called the house and his wife answered the phone. And she's like, there's a guy on the phone that wants to talk me about the Georgia Guidestones.

And he's like, ha, you know? And he gets on the phone, but he talked to me for 30 minutes about it all. I'd call him back, man. And, but he called me back.

And I'm like, was he trying to, like, you know what? Because I told him, I said, I said to him, what if, R.C. Christian lied to you. And he and he had actual more nefarious means, but he told you something to

get you on board with them with getting this whole project done. But there's a, I did tell him this. I said, there's a lot of people in this world that believe the people behind erecting the Georgia Guidestones hold a big portion of responsibility as to why the world is the way it is today. And if you would release the name of the man who you sat down with, we would be able to trace his lineage where he came from who he was involved in involved with and we would might be able to to understand why the world is the way it is today who's behind the destruction and maybe possibly save the world and stop it i think the reason he won't talk about is because rc christian's still alive uh maybe he told me he's dead so like he like he

yeah of course he did well i mean i'm saying like he didn't have to he he said to me like like it was in a way where he brought it up i wasn't prime or anything. He just brought him in conversation. He's like, he's like, he's dead. I'm like, I understand he's dead, but it still would be very important to understand who he was. Or maybe that was a hint that anybody died recently at the same time? That could have been a possible candidate? I don't know. We're going to figure this out. Maybe, maybe, or maybe not, you know? I tend to open cans of worm and just like finish half the can kind of thing. They're just like, I don't know where to go. I'm kind of fully. I'm done fishing. I'm done, you know.

somebody else do it, you know? I'm on in the next one. Let's go hunt dog man. You know? But, uh, but, uh, but yeah. So, I mean, I talked to him and, uh, you know, a very nice guy. He said I could call him back. And I, and maybe I should. Maybe I should. Um, let me know, let me know the audience that's listening right now. Uh, if you made it this far an hour, 12 minutes into this conversation. I know, it goes by fast, right? Wow. Do you think, what, what do you think I should do? So go to the Instagram. Tell me if I should have the scientist on the show. Uh, uh, I know. I should have the scientist on the show. and also tell me, should I contact the man who knows who the true identity is again?

Should I reach out to him or should I be hesitant? Should I wait a little bit to make sure no, you know, agencies flag me thinking that I might be the bomber or whatever, you know? We'll get back to that, by the way. Okay. So, but, but yeah, so, I mean, he was adamant on one angle of it, you know? And I just, I wonder maybe he did call me back or maybe it was one of his kids calling me to tell me, never to call their dad again. Leave my 93 year old dad alone, you know?

I would be interested in, like, I would love to hear the conversation, if he was to be willing, I would love to hear the conversation between you two. And I'd love to hear his opinions on the new 10 commandments that are written on there. And also, okay, so if it is built for nuclear fallout and stuff like that,

you have eight languages on there. Four of them are ancient and dead. Yes. Four of them are current and modern. Why on earth? The dead languages. Why on earth would you put dead languages on there? Why would Sumerian be on there?

Like, we don't even know Samarian. But maybe the Samarians, miles deep under ice in Antarctica that are still alive, would know what it says. I'm just saying. I mean, that makes more sense than just putting it up randomly. Maybe we've been told that these languages are dead, but there are actually people, there's little civilizations, pockets of people. Maybe they're living in the earth that still speak them and they might wander out. Maybe the Nazis were going down to Antarctica to inherit was already there instead of building new bases. Bang.

Bang. Maybe that's what was going on. Breaking news. Where's my breaking news sound button? Actually, that's not really an original idea. I mean, I just kind of is, kind of isn't. But there's this guy named John Levin. He's talking about how a lot of these old, old architecture are not buildings that we've actually built, but buildings that we have inherited.

I think he's off on a lot of his, not a lot, but some of his hypothesis. but he brings up very good points. Like, for example, when we were first settling the United States, you're telling me in Montana, when there was really no civilization at the time, and a bunch of cowboys came together and built the state building for the state capital for Montana with no, like, I'm not doing a good job of explaining this,

but the time frame that they give and the people who built the capital building for Montana, this is just one example, it is an impossibility. Like a lot of these buildings within the time frame they claim with the materials and the manpower that they had are an impossibility

for us to have built. Like San Francisco. Every like massive church that has ever been built. Like the time frame they're giving with the manpower that they had and the technology that they had at the time.

Like it makes more sense that we have inherited a lot of these buildings than it does that we have, built these ourselves. Like there's one guy, there's one guy that they claim like he, I think he lived until his 80s. He's supposedly built 180 churches in his lifetime out of stone. That is an impossibility. That's like multiple a year in locations that would have been impossible for him to travel to within that year. So he's lying. It wasn't his claim. Well, I mean, he's accredited to the, like, he's accredited to building these churches. Like, he's not making.

the personal claim. So like these churches like somewhere written on a wall is like built by. Yeah. Interesting. His name is John Levy on YouTube. Of course it is. Yeah. It's a very, he doesn't give any opinions on, on any of this stuff himself. He just like raises questions like, hey, this building doesn't look like or this rock face in Arizona doesn't look like it was carved. It looks like it was melted down. Like what event happened for this to melt down? Like this isn't natural erosion patterns. interesting I

I found a giant wall in Pennsylvania that stretched at least a half a mile and at parts of it was 100 150 feet high out in the middle of the woods and it looked like

there's there was this like giant boulders placed on top of each other to make this wall and I was like that's interesting do you know how hard it is to build a foot dry stack wall? No.

It takes a long time. I've done it. It takes a long time. Maybe not for giants, though. Maybe not for giants. Right. And that's the part he's missing in his, like a lot of his hypothesis. Yeah.

Is that he's not taking into consideration. Like, he considers the flood. That is a big consideration. He calls it the mud flood. But he doesn't take it. Is that what? Okay. Okay. Yeah.

I had, I can't tell you how. Is this something new? Are you talking about like the tartary? Like the mud flood. I don't know if it's, nude, like the flood obviously isn't new to me, but the idea of it being a mud flood is kind of new to me, yeah. I had two or three people this week in different instances just in passing, whether it was on Instagram live, commenting about it or commenting on a, mud flood to tar tar tar,

I'm like, what's the mud flood? Yeah. I had no, I'm like, I don't know what the mud flood is. I mean, I think they're like, it's a bunch of, it's a bunch of theories and hypotheses coming from people who don't have like the same beliefs as we do. Okay. For like, whenever I'm hearing these things, I'm thinking, I'm automatically thinking, Nephilim, you know, the flood, stuff like that, where they don't have necessarily the same background. I don't even know if, you know, they're the same event.

They could have been like smaller localized events. Interesting. But, I mean, it makes sense. If nothing else, what makes sense is that we do not have, at the time, we didn't have the manpower, we did not have the technology, or the time to build these structures in what they're claiming that we built it in. Like, just, just check out one video of his. Just check out one video of his. And you're going to be like, wow, that is impossible. Like, how did every civilization in the world have the same architectural, like, like techniques? Yeah. but without communication. Send me a link so I will. So I can dive on it.

Yeah. Let's backtrack. Man, we got off track. Yeah, we did. But it's okay. So with the Georgia Guidestones, there's been theories and thoughts floated around all week. I'll let you maybe tell me in an audience what you've heard,

maybe not necessarily what you think about it. but some of the theories like what people are saying, you know, because I've heard a black figure running out to it. I heard the government destroyed them. I heard somebody some conspiracy theorists destroyed them. The elite

destroyed them. A lightning bolt destroyed them. Surn destroyed them. I mean, what's going on? So my dad saw the footage. He's a, he's a retired army sapper. So like this was his job was to you know, blow stuff up basically. And he said,

He saw the explosion and he immediately said that's a shape charge. If they say it's anything other than C4 with the shape charge, they're lying. That was with the information we had at the time. Now new information has come out saying that, like coming from Steve Quayle, he's saying that at the same time that went off, the street light that was near it started like raising like light. Like it was increasing in light. Like it was getting brighter and brighter. I don't know if you can see it in the video.

He said it was in a wider video, like a wider frame. video that he had. And then also in that wider frame video, the, was it, like the blast, the debris from the blast does not match up with the shape charge and stuff like that. So with that information, I mean, and then there's also another theory from Steve Quayle saying, like, God could have possibly nudged one of the satellite directed energy weapons that they have up there to blow up the, you know, the Georgia guy sounds. That is a possibility. I don't know. But the part that stands out the most to me is that if this was a terrorist act, somebody used an explosion to blow something up on a public property and they cleaned up the crime scene the next day.

That's, you said that to me earlier today, and that's when I was like, stop talking. That doesn't make sense. Like, if any other terroristic activity with an explosion would take more than a 12-hour period, it. Yeah. Before they started cleaning up, they just destroyed a crime scene. Yeah. Or they already knew what happened.

Yeah. So. That's interesting. That's interesting. See, you know, I, like, I started seeing a lot of people commenting online, good, good, and cheering it on. And that's, like, on Thursday's member show, I kind of said in the intro, I was like, just be careful.

Because if, if you say you believe the world operates a certain way and they're watching us, they're watching us. And you don't want to be celebrating somebody bombing a structure. That means you might be considered dangerous. Kind of reminds me of January 6th, doesn't it? Right. I'm just like, yo, dude, guys, like, pump the brakes a little bit with what you're saying online, you know? But I heard the God thing and maybe, but I'm just like, well, I mean, technically, God could have prevented it from happening.

And you kind of, you counted that with what God could have prevented. I forget what you said. Maybe it wasn't you. I don't remember. I talked to a lot of people. But, uh, oh, right. Yeah. God could have, could have, uh, prevented like the whole Genesis 6. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. And so, I mean, I don't know. But, um, but one thing, like going through kings and chronicles lately, one thing that came keeps standing out is that every time a king of Israel did not destroy the temples that were in his, like, in the land, like the satanic temples that were in the land, it was mentioned at the end of, like,

at the end of mentioning him, it was mentioned that he did not destroy this satanic temples in his land. They keep making a point of that. So what are you suggesting? I don't know, but I think it's somehow connected to the Georgia Guidestones.

I haven't fully connected the dots yet. I mean, everything just happened. Yeah. But I haven't fully connected the dots yet, but I'm working on it. Yeah? Yeah. Because that was standing out to me

before the Georgia Guistones happened. And then I found out the Georgia guysones happened. And I was like, this is connected somehow. I don't understand how yet, but. I can't tell you how disappointed I am that they got blown up, to be honest with you. No matter what you feel about, I mean, their satanic structure or globalist, Luminati structure, whatever, they were interesting. And I really wanted to go visit them.

I wanted to see them with my own eyes because it's something that is very compelling for me, what I do and for the audience, too. I mean, there's a reason why the audience already knew what the Georgia Guidestones were before they got blown up is because the people who listen to my show dig that kind of stuff. My parents went. They went and recorded a video. They did a video on it. And I would have loved to do something that I was planning on. I was like, dude, we're in East Tennessee.

Like, we're not that far from Georgia Guidestones. It's a day trip. They didn't get down there fast enough. Maybe they knew I was moving down here. Maybe it's all about me. We can't let this information get out. Merkel's too close, dude. Like, he's like a loose can and he just says everything.

understand it all. Yeah, he just goes, you know. Nobody knows what Merkel's going to do. It's unpredictable. Yeah. You know, so I don't know. But it just, it was a little frustrating in that sense, for sure. But I don't know.

I never really, I guess I always thought of him more as, and maybe you can say, you know, this gloomino, gloomini. That works. Kind of, kind of, this globalist, luminati, shadow government, whatever it is, like the people who actually run the world. That's kind of how I always looked at the Georgia Guysstones and that kind of light, or maybe nuclear fallout. We'll also keep in mind they have to tell you what they're going to do to you before they do it. Right, right.

And so like, but that's where I'm going because it's like, yeah, those people tend to be pretty evil. And you start talking about the whole idea of them having to tell you what they're going to do. And it's like, okay. And it seemed like that plan and mission, at least the depopulation, could have been underway. Possibly, I'm not pointing any fingers or saying anything. I'll do it. But it just seemed like since the, I don't know, the turn of the century, there's been things happening that leads me to believe that there are people who don't like the earth getting too crowded. I think, I think largely that was a test to see how susceptible people are yet.

Yeah. I think that's what that was. I think that there's more to come. Oh, of course. Of course. As long as we're breathing, there's more to come. I think humanity globally is starting to wake up. They have access to information, and they're realizing that their CNNs, Fox News,

is whatever other countries have as news organizations are just puppets. And they've been either lied to or manipulated. I think a lot of people are realizing that. And maybe if they did destroy it themselves, maybe it's like, yo, we got to. to cover the evidence now. It's been out here since the 80s. They had enough to that chance. We're moving on with the agenda, but we got to stop the information from being there so easily. But at the same time, it's digitalized. It's online. You can go read about it. They existed. We know that. So what's the point of them blowing it up? Maybe to get the capsule underneath? I don't know.

It could have been that. I mean, it could be like a future bait and switch. We kind of talked about that earlier, talking about how it could be like well yeah I don't necessarily want to get into that topic I need to think about that one more so let's just do this before you and I started recording here I was

I was talking to a couple other podcasters on Zoom and you know I was kind of coaching them on different things with podcasting and one of the things you heard me say is that be self-aware during recordings because

you might be talking too much and droning on a conversation that the audience is starting tune out. Right. And I just had this like this like out of body experience of listening to me say that. And I keep snap back into my body. I'm like, oh my gosh, am I doing it right now? We just did it. We just did it. I think we might be 20 minutes overdue. You know, like maybe when we said, oh, it's only been an hour, 12 minutes. I was the sign to start wrapping it up, you know. I don't know if the audience is digging it or not. And I'm trying to look at my notes here real quick. I had some thoughts on Stranger Things, friends. And let me just kind of throw this idea out to you real quick.

And maybe I'll do a little bit more of a, maybe I'll do, I don't know, something in the future here. But let me just tell you guys, this is going to take some time. So here we go. I just, I'm not going to follow my own advice. So the guys who I was just coaching and stuff, watch how I sink the ship. I think I like it. I like long episodes. Okay.

Well, I mean, hopefully other people like this one too because we're going to keep it going here just a little bit because I just had this thought and I've been wanting somebody to be in person with me just for me to talk it out, you know? It works. It's easier to do it like this than me sit here by myself. All right guys, today it's just going to be me talking for an hour by myself in

studio. It's a little hard. It's a little hard for me. So, listen, I'm a firm believer that what's going on in the TV show Stranger Things. I know you don't watch it is real. And you said the same thing. Yes, it's real. But if you're not

watching the TV show, the essence of real that I'm talking about, I believe it's real. Well, what? It's real. What are you talking about? Everything. I think it's real. Okay. And I have a lot of reasons for that. I'm not going to get into today. I have information that I can't get into today. Literally can't, but you will hear it. Okay, guys, just trust me. You will hear this information at some point. My wife just text me, about today when I was with you, William. And she's like, here's the schedule. She just, she put on the schedule for us to have a meeting tomorrow about it. And she's like, we can't rush this. If you do it right and you're patient, it will be amazing. And so like she's like, Tony, don't jump the gun, you know, so I'm not, Lindsay, I'm not. But I am going to talk about something else right now. So along that

line. Let me start off with Sandra Hughes. Who's Sandra Hughes? Let me tell you a story about Sandra Hughes, okay, briefly. In 2020, the pandemic happened. Everybody gets locked down in this country, right? Well, Sandra was out in California and she thought she would skirt around the rules of being locked down by going out in the nature. She was very nature-type person, liked hiking, camping. And so she spent, she figured, hey, I'm going to go out for a week or two. I'm going to do some camping.

Get out in the nature to 15 days to curve the, or whatever the two, whatever, whatever the freaking saying was. I don't remember. What was it? To curb the curve or something? I don't remember. I messed you up. You know what it is.

Drop the curve. Yeah. 15 days to settle the curve or spread the curve or something. I don't know. Two years later. Yeah. So anyways, she, she goes out and she's like

it's going to be a two week vacation doing what I like doing. I love nature. So she goes out there and she does her thing and she tells her family that she's going out. And everybody's okay, see you in two weeks, you know, and back in time for work. Well,

some time goes on during that period and some hikers are going through the woods and they come across a campsite. And the campsite looks like it's been used, but a band nothing was really destroyed. But if I remember correctly, it looked like it was abandoned.

And so they're like, that's weird, you know. They made a note of where it was at. And they go back to town. And if I remember correctly, maybe it looked like somebody had gone through it. I don't remember exactly. Which it might be a really relevant detail, to be honest with you, but I just don't remember. But they go back to town and they report this campsite, mysterious campsite. the police go out.

And they go through the stuff and they find Sandra Hughes information. So they call the family and they said, hey, do you happen to know where Sandra is? Did you talk to her? Why did she leave her campsite the way it was? Just checking to make sure she's okay. The family gets very upset because they're like, Sandra is super environmentally friendly and she would never leave her stuff out there like that. There's something wrong.

So they initiated a missing person report. Yeah. So the missing person report is out. And a little bit later, I'd say a few days or whatever, there was some more hikers going through the woods and they come across this woman. And she's standing there probably, it's like staring off. Like she was just kind of like staring off at something, you know? And you're out in the woods.

And I've been out in the woods. Like I was like a mile or two off trail and I came across a dude that was like living out there. And he just like stared at me. a little weird and it's scary, you know. And so they're kind of like, hey, you know, and she doesn't acknowledge that they're there. And, you know, they're trying to be polite, like, hey, how you doing? And it's close enough that she would hear. No response. And they're like, oh, that's weird. Hike a little faster, you know? So they go on their way. They get to a town. They see the missing

person report poster. And so when they see the poster, like, oh, my gosh, that's the woman we saw out there. Let's report. They reported the police go out. She's not there. Okay. More time goes on. Let's say a few days. Now we're probably the week, two weeks into this missing person thing. Some hunters are out in the woods and they're driving down like an old logging road and they see a woman in a tree. And I believe it was in a tree. And please, anybody who is hearing the story, go ahead and look it up. I might be messing up some of the details, but you're getting the gist of it. Like alive or hanging? No, alive, alive. And they slowed down and again, they kind of call out to her and she totally doesn't acknowledge they're there.

Now, one thing that's interesting is between the two sightings, the hikers that saw her, she acknowledged them, to the hunters. She was described wearing certain clothes going into this occasion. The hikers saw her wearing something different, and then the hunters later saw her wearing the clothes again. So she's changed clothes. Wouldn't it like a blue jacket or something like that? I don't know. You've heard this story, huh? Yeah. Jerk. I'm familiar with it.

Don't ruin. I'm not. I'm telling stories here. Story time with Tony. No, but if you got more details, you got any more details? No, you remembered more than I do. I remember the blue jacket. I was like some distinguishing piece of clothing. Sometimes stories like captivate me. This story captivated me because of the implications that it could possibly have with other stuff.

So they go into town. They see that she's missing. They're reported the police go out. She's not there. And that's all we know. Sandra Hughes is still missing. We know that she was seen. She was acting weird.

Clothes changed. She doesn't have supplies. We found that. We found her ID. She doesn't have her license. She doesn't have a credit card. She's not buying things. But she's changing clothes in trees, staring off, not acknowledging the presence of other

human beings. And now she's gone. We don't know where she is. So we just had a show not too long ago, I'd say a week or two ago, with Ashley from Australia. And I don't even remember what I called that show. Oh, scribble men. No, I called it The Inverted World.

The Inverted World. That's what it was. I called The Inverted World. Shout out to Shane Cashman. He has a podcast called The Inverted World. Awesome show. You guys check it out. It's on YouTube. He's growing like crazy, like 30,000 subscribers. He's part of Tim Poole's program. I love it over there. Those guys are great. So I called it the inverter world. Ashley had some phenomenal stories. If you guys haven't heard that episode, go check it out. The overtime is phenomenal as well. She talked about this black entity crawling like a spider in her house into the room that she was in and stuff. It was just crazy bone-chilling stuff. Great interview. But,

in the first segment, she talked about this experience where she's out in the woods, and I didn't get a chance to review this, so I'm just going to lightly go over it. But she's out in the woods, and I believe she was a kid, and she had like a marker,

like she knew her she was going because she had made a marker kind of thing, and then the marker's gone, and everything's kind of changed around her environment changes. And I suggest that she slipped into an alternate university. It's like she slipped into another reality, a mirrored world.

And then over time, she finally finds her way out of it, it. And through the details, it just doesn't make sense. The way she shared the story, it's like, yeah, I mean, if it played out the way you're saying, it played out, it seems like you slipped into an inverted world. Well, we have those TV show, Stranger Things. And like I said, I have a lot of information about this whole topic that my wife, my wife is telling me, if it's done right, it'll be amazing. If you rush it, people are going to. call you a kook and lock you up.

And so I'm trying to listen to her advice, you know. But it's real information. I promise you guys is going to be amazing. But this whole thing gives me a stranger thing vibe. Ashley slips into an alternate universe, whatever you want to call it, kind of like stranger things where they kind of accidentally go into this upside down. And you can find your way back. you can get lost there you can die there nobody in the right side up ever knows what happened to you

yeah so in season four of stranger things i'm not going to spoil anybody who uh hasn't watched it yet i just finished the last episode last night it literally stranger things is one of the very few shows i watch but it's like i call it my job i have to watch it like it's my job you have to watch and i dig it but in the last season of stranger things there are new characters that have things happen to them in this reality. When these characters physically in this reality, they're physically in this reality, but they're also in the upside down. Their minds, their other essence, their other being, whether it's their their minds are going there or their spirits are going there. They're physically here, but they're also in the upside

down. Like quantum entanglement? Mm-hmm. Okay. And what happens to them in the upside down affects them here, okay? And I'm watching this happen. And before the things that happen to them in the upside down affect them physically here, and anybody who watched it knows what I'm talking about, they all portrayed physical

attributes here. Their bodies reacted a certain way before the grand finale. Let's put it that way. I'm talking code for a reason. Everybody understands why because you don't want to spoil things. But it got me thinking, because of what I know to be true, it got me thinking, what is it like, what is it like when our bodies slip into this other universe? So like Ashley was in this upside down inverted world and she's wandering around just like they do in stranger things. Like their body's here, but they go to the upside down and they're doing things there. Yeah. While their body's here. And again, you see physically that let's just call it if you could take a word that's describing vocals and make it a visual thing.

their body's very monotone. It's docile here while they're running around there. So it's literally inverted. Right. Okay. So Ashley slips into an inverted world. And while she's running around the inverted world,

we didn't explore this idea of what was her body doing here if she was an inverted world. Did she all completely go into an inverted world? which was probably what we were thinking at the time of the recording. Like Ashley was walking through the forest and all of a sudden physically, everything about Ashley slipped into an inverted world. She's no longer here in this world, but she's walking around in a mirrored universe. But what if Ashley slipped into an inverted world, her physical body is here, docile while

she's in an inverted world running around trying to find her way out? And it got just me thinking, watching the stranger things and how that happened. happens, knowing what I do know that I'll share with the audience in the future, hopefully sometime soon. And then with Ashley's experience, it just got me thinking, when people slip into alternate realities, what does their body look like here? How do they react here? Are they here? Because in stranger things, and this isn't, if you, listen, if this is a spoiler, like, you're not, you're not living your best life. In the first. season of Stranger Things, it portrayed physically going to the upside down.

Will got lost in the upside down. The other kid that Elle's boyfriend, his sister, she and her friend went to the upside down. Her friend physically died in the upside down, no longer existing here because she went to the upside down, died there, and everybody here just didn't know whatever, whatever happened. to her. So physically, in the first season, they're going there. In the fourth season, it's like a little bit of both. They're slipping in and out. Some are, some are physically going there still, but some are doing both. What's the day, okay, so the first season takes the place in the

80s, right? Yeah, the whole thing takes the place in the even the fourth season. Yeah, it's like 80s-ish. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. I was wondering if CERN came out between third season. Well, uh, it's not well I see where you're going with it but it's going that's actually the opposite direction of what I'm going with not opposite direction but I'm just going in a very different direction with what I'm thinking

but yeah I just it just got me thinking because when I recorded that with Ashley back in December last year I don't remember what I was thinking but if I was thinking stranger things I would have been thinking like

season one physically slipping into alternate universes mirrored worlds um but what if ashley did slip into a mirrored world but her physical body in this world still remained if that's the case what did it look like if somebody came across her physical body what is she doing in this realm while she's in the mirroed world got me thinking about sandra hughes people came across Sandra Hughes and they're like, hey, and she's just like, mm, gone. She's just, she's somewhere else. Physically here, but somewhere else. Sandra Hughes is out in the forest. What do we know about these forests in 411?

People just disappearing. There's some kind of portal action going on here. There's some kind of slipping into other realities, or maybe Bigfoot, but there's something going on. So it just got me thinking, Ashley, what is she? she looked like Sandra Hughes. With what we know of Sandra Hughes's case, is it possible that Ashley physically looked the same way here while she was in the mirrored universe? Possibly, yeah.

I mean, she could have found different clothes in the mirrored universe. You know what I mean? It's possible. So, like, yeah. I don't know if any of that made sense, but that it may be, at least hopefully, people understand why I need somebody here to talk to.

Yeah. Because, like, what am I, to do talk to a wall about this something like i have a hard enough saying it to you you know just like how do i say this out loud you know but i'm trying to tie it all together to the idea that stranger things real take the imagery you know from season four apply to ashley apply to sandra hughes are we talking about a situation where we saw sandra hughes react a certain way is it possible that ashley had a similar experience where maybe she's running around the mirrored universe and somebody could have come up on her wherever

she was at here and be like hey little girl are you okay and she's like uh yeah you know just gone and you know if i saw that i'd be like oh i'm out yeah yeah in our hurry you scary girl i'm going home i'm gonna have some soup girl up next to the fire you know but uh yeah so that's that was some of my my what if what if sern like kick started the degradation of the veil between dimensions

it's possible yeah that's possible Man, I'm losing my voice. We got to wrap this up. You're good, man. Listen, before we get out of here, we're an hour, 45 minutes into it. Hopefully, we gave people something. You know, this was literally when we sat down. I had some words typed out on my phone just to bring up.

We didn't get to the Japanese prime minister, but we'll do it another time. Listen, before we get out of here, we mentioned a lot of people's stuff today. Let's mention yours. Where can people find you? We have a YouTube channel called Permapestr's Farm. There's three different words, P-E-R-M-E-E-R-M-E. a Pastures Farm. We also have a YouTube channel,

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If you have any questions, hit us up. You guys have products that you do sell. Now, I will tell you, I haven't bought any of their honey because he keeps giving me their honey. We don't, the honey is not for sale. I love it.

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and I'm still, I'm still lining out all the, I plan on doing an episode specific to Comfrey. Okay. Talking about why it was alienated. So Comfrey is like the, for centuries, it has been like the cure-all for everything.

It's not really a cure. all, it just promotes the rebuilding of everything. Like there's people, there's accounts of it healing cancer, there's accounts of it healing arthritis, broken bones. It used to be called knit bone. Well, at the same time that they made Comfrey illegal in some areas, they also figured out how to synthesize the active compound in Comfrey called Alentone. So they figured out how to synthesize that.

And then they started saying, oh, Comfrey's going to give you liver toxicity. Don't use that. come buy our product. Well, they're lying. The Germans just recently did more studies on it. There hasn't been a single case of liver toxicity due to Comfrey ever. That's been recorded. Not a single one.

So we sell Comfrey. We sell the plant. You can grow it yourself. We sell a Comfrey salve, which has been literally working miracles for some people. You've used it, right? On your own body? Oh, yeah. I used it.

I've healed. I had a laceration across my arm. you know, like the bad part of your arm. And I use comfort to heal that. And now it's like this tiny little scar. When we do festivals in a booth, I show people my hands. And I say, if you can tell me which finger I've almost cut off with a hatchet, you can have a free jar.

Nobody's made it yet. Nobody's figured out. Yeah. And you have a one in ten chance of guessing. Yeah. And I point to the other scars and I say, that's not it. That's not it. That's not it.

Wow. Yep. So, yeah. I mean, you've really talked up comfort to me a lot. And I send some to my mom. And so hopefully it helps her. You know, like, in all honesty, I don't have high hopes because my mom has been sick for so long since she's my age. And she's just been slowly getting worse and worse over time.

And she's not old. I mean, she's in her early 50s. She has to use it, though. She told me she got it yesterday. And she used it yesterday. She's using it again today. And I coached her on a little bit today because you were talking about. you said that, because it comes in a small jar, but it's concentrated and you don't need to, you know, use the whole jar in one sitting.

It should last a while. It's super potent. Yeah, very potent. So, you know, she's going to use it. And I mean, obviously, I hope it helps her and stuff. But I got pretty pessimistic with my mom when it comes to stuff because, like, I still don't know what's wrong with my mom. I don't think the doctors have a total understanding of what's wrong with my mom. Right.

But it's just been one of those things where it's been, you know, I'm the kind of person when it comes to my family. I really ignore a lot of issues when I don't want to confront it, you know, and with my mom, I've to a fault ignored in the sense that like my wife, she knows more about my mom's physical problems than I do. Because I check out, as soon as my mom starts talking about it, I check out. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to know about it. I don't, mom, I don't want to talk about it. You know, it just kills me.

So I really hope it helps her. Yeah, I do too. And, you know, we're not, I'm not telling, you know, I don't think you're telling anybody that this is going to, you know, help you, you know, I don't know, grow your arms back or something like that. But, you know, maybe. But what Comfrey does, what Alan Tolland does is it does three things. It inhibits like bad cellular growth. That's a big one right there. It flushes out disease cells.

and it promotes growth of new cells. What disease can you not cure with those three things? I don't know. Exactly. For a second, I was like, oh, crap, I should know this shouldn't I? No. I was like, cancer? What's a good answer?

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You should not eat it. You can and you'd be fine, but don't eat it. Like, the smell is going to stop you from eating it. It's nasty. Yeah. But it keeps deer. And we claim it keeps deer and rabbits away for 25 to 30 years. From what?

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That's incredible. Like, there's this one, okay, in Asheville, there's this one area called Biltmore Lake. It's like million dollar houses, all of them down it. And they're beautiful. And all of them have bars of soap hanging from their plants. Like, they got Irish Spring hanging out in front. Wow. Talk about tacky.

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I was like, what? You do that? and you're like, yeah, I'm like, it's a full-time job. Heck yeah, dude. I was like, holy crap, man. Like, I, I tend to, like, avoid comments sections sometimes, like the plague because I know it's waiting, lurking into shadows. I'm like, oh, I don't want to see it.

It's going to mess up my mind. It's not, when you're, when they know you're going to respond, there's a lot of people who don't say the bad things that you think they're going to say. Yeah. It makes sense because they know they know they're going to get the business. Yeah. Do you ever get the business to people? Oh, yeah.

We did. we actually put a couple trolls on a shirt and did a fundraiser not too long ago. She put their name on the shirt. Yeah, we did a fundraiser for Vets for Child and Rescue. I think we raised over like $3,100 from this. And all the proceeds went to Veterans for Child Rescue. But we made a shirt with the list of trolls on the shirt. It was called the Troll Roll Call.

And yeah. Roll Roll Call. It's so like crazy. People loved it. People loved it. That's awesome. Because what the trolls were doing, they were like going to a bunch of different Homestead channel saying, hey, they're talking about you.

Hey, they're talking about you. Really? Creating strife between us and other Homestead channels. And we're like, hey, instead of attacking that target, let's go for the trolls or we're causing all this. Yeah. Yeah. That's great.

Yep. We found out one of the trolls is the same person. It's a wife that's getting, like, using her account and then getting on her husband's account and getting on that and like making two comments from the same person. Wow. Well, that's such a creative way to combat the trolls. I wish I had that creativity. I'm just like, oh, yeah.

All right, man. Listen, I appreciate you sitting down with me. I hope everybody enjoyed the conversation. But yeah, until next time, man. I know you'll be in here again. For sure. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me, man.

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