The Confessionals - 46: Fire In The Sky

Episode Date: December 2, 2017

On Episode 46, Rob begins his story sharing his UFO experiences, including what appeared to him to be fire orbs in the sky! He also discusses in detail how he and his wife have a tendency to experience paranormal encounters whenever they are together. Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Now, let's get to Rob this week, who has a lot of crazy experiences throughout his life with his wife. Okay, tonight I have a great guest coming on. We have Rob and Rob contacted me a little bit ago with a UFO encounter that he saw. And Rob, I believe you actually have some other things you want to talk about tonight,

but how are you doing? Oh, doing good, doing good. Nice weather today. Happy Halloween. Great. Happy Halloween to you, too. So you contacted me. You're down in Texas, and I'm up here in Pennsylvania. We actually kind of miscommunicated a little bit on the time-wise, because I always forget to say Eastern Time. So you've had these UFO encounters, and I would like for you to just kind of like start us off there. Like what happened? What did you see down there in Texas? Okay. This was one evening, it was a little bit after 930, my wife and I decided that we were going to need to go make a run to the store. Well, we go out the back door and getting into the car and she says, what is that? And when I look up, we see these round orbs that look like balls of fire, you know, flying from one side to the other, from a,

I think it was flying from east or from west to east is the direction that they were going. And not, you know, not too high above the horizon, you know, we were able to look at, see them over the houses. And, you know, seeing a, you know, a few of them. And I was like, wow, you know, saw one time I did, and I had, remember to pull my phone out, you know, started filming it. And, you know, we saw quite a few at first when, when they were flying across. It was like maybe six or seven in a group. And then once I started filming, it took me a little while to get focused on it. And they started turning into formations of three, these round balls, spears of light.

And in fact, in the video, it doesn't even do it justice to what we saw. And a couple of times as the formation of three, the life, lights would turn and I know a couple of times I saw it look like a solid object but you know at other times you can actually see sky behind you know through the lights and my wife had seen that also and one of them weirdest weirdest things that that we had witnessed when watching this and I've looked on the video I can't find it but the headlight of the three you know the front light actually a white light dropped out from from the front one to the ground. I don't know. You just saw it fall, you know. And that happened on two different ones. So, I mean, that was like really, really strange.

Well, I had filmed like, I think, three minutes and something seconds of the first, the first few that had gone by. And, you know, they were flying off in the distance. And even when I'm looking at it through the camera and with, my eyes I'm seeing lights and but on the camera there's there's some lights that are showing up and some that are not so like it is I don't know if it could be you know looked at or filtered or anything to where we could try to see but you know in the background you know there's Venus so I mean it's like wow these

these are some strange lights you know flying through this guy and you know so they kind of had stopped and I told my wife I'll turn the camera off and I'll I was like, I wonder if there's going to be some more. And then soon, no sooner did I say that here comes some more. So I was able to go ahead and turn the camera back on and get those also. But like I said, it looked like they were coming from a east to west direction. And then by the time it was coming more parallel to us, the way we were looking, it was going away from us. So, you know, that was pretty much, you know, the view that we got to see.

You know, and then, you know, after that. So it was probably about close to seven minutes, you know. And I think there was even a spot where I was able to get an airplane in one of the lights that way. You know, the airplane was flying over as a matter of fact. And that's why I think, you know, not far from us is Ellington Air Force Base, you know. And, you know, of course, not far from that is NASA. So, but I was just thinking, I was like, I don't know if this is a manmade or not. not, you know? Yeah, I mean, has there ever been any kind of conspiracy theories floating around

locally about Ellington? See, that's, that's, I don't, I haven't heard anything about that. I would like to try to check that out and do some research on that. I mean, between Ellington and NASA, and then, you know, you got Clear Lake and Clear Lake has a big waterfront, you know, And, you know, you know, some of the, I don't want to say conspiracy, but what's out there, you know, some underwater bases and stuff like that. And there was another, another right here close to us also right off of 225, there's the, the battleship, Texas, and the monument. Well, our San Jacinto monument, you know, is, it's an obelisk, you know, and there has things to do with. with, you know, energy lines and laylines of the earth, you know, a lot of times that they would build these monuments on areas like that. And then especially, you know, that land there was, you know, the battle.

So, you know, a lot of blood was spilled on that land. So I don't know if there's has anything to do with that. NASA. I just know that, you know, this, we were able to actually get on film, you know, the day before Thanksgiving last year. But previous to this incident, our very first one, my wife and I, we were just dating. We're like 17 years old. And here in Deer Park, they had a fall festival.

So we were at the fall festival. And, you know, it was already evening time. It was kind of chilly. So we decided, you know, we were going to go ahead and leave. And, you know, my wife at the time, you know, my girlfriend, wife. she lived in Houston. So we went ahead and was leaving Dirk Park and driving along

the feeder road. And as we're driving headed towards Houston before I get onto Highway 225, because that's the freeway that runs along in front of Dere Park. I'm driving and from north to south

over the Shell Refinery Chemical Plant over 225 and over the road right in front of where we're at, this bright streak of light comes shooting across the sky. And it was like literally it was a streak of light. You know, I told people in there like, I sure wasn't shooting stars?

Like, no, this was a streak of light. And what made it even weirder than that is it was a streak of light. I said, what the heck is that? My wife looked up. And when she looked up and saw it, it was in front of us. And it separated, that streak of light separated into three perfect spheres of amber light and disappeared as soon as they showed up. Like one, like there was one, two, three.

Like the streak of light across and then one, two, three, and then boom, gone. Disappeared right in front of us. And we're like, what is that? So it's, to me it seems like there might be a connection between what we saw when we were younger and then what we saw here on last Thanksgiving because everything was too similar.

You know, I mean, it's, it's, it was weird. And it was almost like, and I've been thinking about this here lately. It was like, because the stuff that, you know, me and you watch, you know, it talks about stuff that's faster than light and faster than, you know, the speed of sound and stuff. I think we had actually witnessed

something that came in faster than the speed of light. and when it stopped, you know, that's the end part that we saw was the streak and then the three lights and then boom, they disappeared. Wow. So, I mean, I think there's going to be a lot of people that would ask this question. So I'm going to go ahead and ask it to you. When you saw that when you were younger with your wife, is there any chance that it could be like a flare gun or something? No, no. Because what I'm picturing, the way you described it is what I'm picturing, the way you described it is what I'm picturing, is a streak of light, splits into three, and then they disappear, not phase out. And I think that would be the distinction between a flare gun kind of thing and not. What are your thoughts on all that? Right. Yeah, this was definitely, it wasn't, it was light. It was light-based.

And when you're actually, okay, when you're looking through your windshield, when we saw it go across. I mean, it was a waste from us. It was probably, probably about 200 yards from us when it came streaking across. And it being that fine, it was probably about, say, maybe 100, 150 feet above the ground, you know, above, you know, because it, like I said, it, it flew, it had to been higher that because it flew over the refiner and flew over 225 and then it was just flat but when you're looking through like my windshield they look like the size of like beach volleyball you know but it wouldn't be that close it would be you know in the distance but through the windshield that's about how big they looked you know and it was just this glowing amber weird you couldn't see through it

It was just these perfect balls of light, you know, they were huge. I mean, it was, it was very straight. Yeah, anyway, it was no flare. It was, I've been trying to figure it out, you know, ever since it had. We were like, you know, what was that, you know, and it was just, it was just strange, you know. Like I said, it was, it was a light, you know. I mean, this is another one that happened not long after that one. Um, maybe, okay, that was when we were 17 and we got married in 95.

So my son was already here. So it had to have been about 96 or 97, okay? We're staying with my wife's mom in Pasadena. And it's, uh, me, her and her brother, my brother-in-law, we decided we're going to go to, uh, Blockbuster videos. So, you know, they still had, video stores back so we're going to go ahead and go to blockbuster video and we're on this street called vista and it's right next to a hospital which is called Bayshore Hospital you know

you can look it up in Pasadena well we're we're going down Vista we're going to go ahead because Blabuster Video is in the shopping center on the other side of the hospital which you know that was a target and all that there. Well, we're going to go ahead and cut through the hospital. But as we're going down Vista, I'm looking up and I see what I thought was an airplane because, like I said, we also, you know, we have Hobby Airport around here also. You know, we got to, you know, there's a lot of stuff flying around that are, you know, Ellington Fields and, you know, hobby and continental.

And so we grew up with seeing airplanes in the sky. You know what I mean? And we're going down and I'm looking in the sky and what I thought at first was a airplane. It was silver. But then I'm looking and I was like, that it doesn't have any wings. You know? And I tell my wife, my wife is driving. I'm like, hey, you know, there's something weird.

Let's go ahead and pull around and get out and look. So we pull in to where we would have turned to go to Buckbustre video. But there was some townhomes right there. So we pulled in right there, and this is what is weird. All three of us are standing outside of the car doors looking up at it, and it starts to float away. And we just get back in the car and go. Hold on, we're going to.

And we just go ahead and get back into the car and go to Blockbuster Video, you know, get some movies. And when I first saw it, let me tell you, it was daytime when I saw it, because I remember seeing the sun shine off of it because it was a silver looking object. When it left us and we went to Blockbuster Video and then went back to her mom's house, she was like very upset with us because it was already dark time. and she was like saying, where, you know, where were y'all? And we,

I guess we just kind of blew her off, you know, because we were, you know, still, you know, kind of young. But the funny thing is,

we never, we never talked about it. And I didn't remember that, that incident till years and years and years later. And, to where I told my wife, and we all remember a little, different things about what happened and my brother-in-law doesn't even want to talk about it

because I asked him I was like hey you remember he's and he does not even want to talk about it but eventually one day I would like to have that regression regression hypnotherapy you know and to see if I can recall some stuff that I that I don't remember because that's the strangest of all that we did not remember remember the time was missing, you know, because we got in trouble for being out so late. And it, you know, that, that was, that was pretty strange, pretty weird. I see what else was, was there about that one. Oh, when, my life is just reminded me when, whenever we were standing by the car,

because originally she was the one that was driving and I was in the past. passenger side. That's how I was able to look out, you know, my right side and see, see that. But when we were standing there, I was on the driver's side. My wife was on the passenger side. Wow, that's what's one of the things that she really remembers. And, you know, she's had some, some pretty strange experiences, too. It's like we're almost a magnet for, you know, UFOs and paranormal stuff. We got some good ghost stories, too, man. All right. Well, before we get into that, let's take a break in. When we come back, you can hop right into those ghost stories, okay? Okay. Okay, we'll be right back, everybody. We're back. And, Rob, before we went on the break,

you said you had some good ghost stories to share. So why don't you just hop right into it and share with us what you experience, man? Okay. I will share one. We lived in an apartment in Pasadena, and it was an upstairs apartment. And there was strange thing, let me first start by saying, ever since I was little, I could always sense something, you know? And I would sense weird things,

and even at this place, what, the rumor was that a kid had died in a swimming pool and the ghost of this kid was running around the apartments. Well, my wife would always hear a child say, mama, mama,

you know, and there would be no, you know, our kids wouldn't be there. it would be at school or somewhere else. That was some of the strange things. And then you would be sitting on the couch and the hallway that goes to the rooms would be to your left side.

So when you're watching TV, you would see like a shadow head up your side vision. And when you would turn, it would be gone. You know, so we were constantly seeing that. Well, my cousin spends a night one weekend. And, you know, we already know that weird stuff is going on. So we, you know, ask her the next morning, you know, how'd you sleep? She's like, you know, she slept good, but the kids kept getting up and going to the kitchen. Well, my kids, they were still little enough to where we had them on the schedule where they would sleep all night.

So she wasn't seeing my kids getting up going back and forth to the kitchen. But, you know, she thought. So I don't know if we even actually even told her maybe we did. but my neighbor, okay, okay, hold on. Well, let me tell you what happened with the neighbor first, and then I'll tell you the best one of that place. My neighbor, he was a taxi driver, and he would work the night shift,

so he would be sleeping all day. Well, he would come in in the morning and, you know, sit there, and he said he was sitting on his bed, and the end of his bed mashed down like somebody had sat there. and another thing that was happening, like, his drawers, there were like old school drawers with the brass handles that you could, you know, they would clack up up and down, you know, like, I guess like, you know, old furniture type, you know, hardware on it.

Well, he said he would sit there and they would start doing that. They would start clacking up and down. I was like, wow, that's, you know, you're right across the hallway from me. That's some weird stuff. But, you know, and he was saying that, you know, he would hear that, you know, weird stuff too. but then see the shadow. But the ones that got my wife the most and really was like, wow, there's something going on here.

I'm at the store. She's doing dishes. And behind her in the kitchen, there was a ceiling fan with the light. So it was casting her shadow on the wall as she was, you know, standing there doing the dishes. Well, she said that all of a sudden this shadow rose up beside her on the wall. And it scared her and she was like saying, Rob, is that you? You know, because she was thinking I was inside of the house, but I wasn't even back from the store yet. When I come walking through, I could, through the door, I could hear her say, Rob, was that you?

And I was like, no, I just walked through the door. And that's when she had told me that that shadow had rose up, you know, it cast it up against the wall, you know. So it basically rose up from the ground up next to her shadow. And it freaked her out, you know. But, yeah, that was just some of the worst stuff at that place. That's crazy. I mean, so it wasn't even part of her shadows, a separate shadow rising up next to hers? Totally separate shadow rising up next to her.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's trippy, man. It was a very, for her, it freaked her out. I could definitely tell, you know. And like I said, we've always had weird stuff always happened to us. So it's like, it's kind of normal, but it's,

still when it does happen, it kind of freaks you out a little bit, you know. We've known each other since we were 12, you know, so we've grown up together and, you know, we got old enough, we got together, you can got married, so we have a long history together. We just did know that it was like both kind of weird and strange and, you know, somewhat kind of paranormal type stuff. So we're driving and I'm driving by this neighborhood and I'm just looking forward and I hear her with her voice say, isn't that the neighborhood your aunt lives in? And when I looked up, she turned and looked at me and goes, isn't that the neighborhood

your aunt lives in? I was like, what? I go, I just heard you say that, you know? So you're saying she only said it one time? She said it one time, but I heard it out loud with my ears in my head. You know what I mean? So it was very strange. That's what I'm saying.

It was like, wow. I know. It's still, I bring it up every now and I was like, wow, I remember when I heard you say something before you said it. And then you said it. You know what I mean? So basically I could have answered her question before she even said it again if I would have realized. Wow, that's, that's trippy. And I heard her say it before her mouth even opened.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we, we've, we've experienced a lot of. stuff. There was a, it was another time, uh, my son, he was just born. He was probably maybe, maybe six months old. We had moved to Colorado where my father-in-law lived. And this is western Colorado. Actually, it's outside of Trinidad, Colorado, like southern Colorado. If you go

through Rathone, New Mexico, bam, you're in Trinidad. So he lives up in the mountains and he's setting up this land. He's got a little RV. There's an outhouse that you have to use. It's up on the top of a mountain. So he's getting it all set up. One night, when we first got there, we had wound up having to sleep in the car because there just wasn't a whole lot of room in that little RV for me and my wife and

my son. So we decided we're going to go ahead and sleep in the car. Well, we fall asleep. and I wake up and I feel this force on me that I'm trying to push off with me and I'm like, what, you know, what is going on here? And I can barely move my head and I look and I can see Cindy, you know, laying there sleepings and I can't speak. I can't say anything.

Another thing that was so strange. And then I turned and taking everything, I can to try to turn and I look and I see my son Jacob. sleeping in his car seat, you know, and I'm thinking, what is going on here? And I turn back and I look. And I'm in the passenger seat. My wife is in the driver's seat. You know, she's sleeping. And I feel this force. So I literally, I take my hands and I'm like pushing up, trying to push, push it off. And I'm like, what is going on here? Well, at this time, I'm hearing this whistling sound like somebody whistling a tune, you know, like a little, like a little tune. And I'm like, what is that?

And I look out the driver's side window when my wife is, and I look out the window past her. And in these mountains, there's old logging trails all over, all over these mountains. So I look and I could see down this old logging trail, and I see it had been maybe 75 feet to 100 feet away. But I see this shadow figure, man. And it's standing there. And I'm like, oh, my God, what the heck is that?

you know and mind you i'm still having chill i can't move you know i can't speak it's just like i'm talking to myself in my head like what is going on here and i you know i've seen shadow figures before and all that was you know growing up and stuff like i said because i always felt felt that kind of stuff the strange thing about this one was he was holding a lantern that was the old school old style glass globe with the wire going around it, Lander, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah.

And I was like, when I saw that and I could still hear that tune whistling and I was like, what the heck, you know? And it almost was like so much that I remember, I closed my eyes and I opened my eyes and it was daytime and the birds were chirping. You know, sun was in my face. I was like, wow. I told my wife immediately. I was like, you're not going to believe what happened.

Well, the next night, she goes ahead and she's sleeping in the RV. And her and Jacob, they're sleeping in the little, you know, pop-up, not a pop-up RV, but it's just a small little RV. Well, she tells me that she wakes up in the middle of the night and she sees this greenish glowing orb outside of the window. And she was like, what is that? you know and she wanted to just you know it freaked her out i guess it just made her go to sleep well she woke up the next morning and looked the direction where she said that she saw it outside of the window and there was no window there it was totally closed off meaning she saw this green glowing orb inside of the RV wow yeah you know and i mean and this is in colorado so strange things we

They happen, you know, it doesn't matter where you're at. Wow. So let me ask you, I mean, with you and your wife, both experiencing things throughout your lives, is there a history with your families of this, or does it just seem to be you two? I don't know if there's a history with the family. Well, I actually do know that my wife's dad, she can tell you ever since she was little, had said that he was abducted one time. You know what I mean?

And he had seen stuff. Okay. You know, and there was an incident one time when she was real little, and they lived in Houston, that she woke up and she saw these little creatures running around in her room, and it scared her. What happened was it ripped the blankets off of her bed. And she woke up screaming her dad comes in, you know, she was like, you know, something's there. And I got permission to tell this story, too, so I already talked to it. you know and so she goes ahead and goes lazy with her parents so she's laying in between her mom and her dad and she's you know still scared and she looks up and she sees one of these things sitting on her dad's chest and it's like looking at him and she says she can't remember what if it was something that was coming out of his mouth into that mouth or vice versa very strange

you know that you know she witnessed this and she was just so petrified she she she was you know passed out and then woke up the next day but what is crazy and weird is when we had moved to Colorado my father-in-law had told her he goes you remember those little creatures you know when you were little and then she was like freaked out she was like yeah and he kind of just dropped it at that you know was kind of just chuckled and I was like, you know, like, see, I told you all that was real. Wow. So, I mean, I mean, there's so many, so many different things, I mean, and this is just like, it's, it's weird because you, I don't know.

Like, sometimes you feel like you're not normal because things just happen to you. Well, the definition of normal is very loosely defined to my mind. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly right. When she saw these little creatures, I mean, does she describe them as grays? No, they were smaller than that. They were smaller than that. And, you know, we have also been looking into, you know, the little people and the little, you know, there's all kinds of little crazy things out there.

And she's been trying to figure out what it closely more resembles. I don't, it's not like a gremlin. It's like a grimmol, but not like the movie gremlin. You know what I mean? She said it was definitely ugly, scary, and it really freaked her out. You know, and like I said, it started off by pulling the blankets off of, you know, off of her. And that's what really initially started it. You know, and then I was like, wow, I thought I had some weird stuff happen to me, you know,

when she told me this. And I mean, there's, and it's like as I get older, I start remembering more stuff. up and, you know, when I was, like, say, little, I don't know why. I mean, like I said, I've always, you know, felt different energies and stuff like that. And I heard, you know, sometimes with traumatic experiences, you know, people wind up getting these guests, you know. Yeah. Able to see and, you know, hear different things. And, like, I started to remember and I was like, Man, when I was three or four years old, I remember I was riding, my mom and dad, it was just me and my mom and my dad. And I remember we were riding in the back seat of this Cadillac and I was sitting by the door and we were going down the freeway.

And I remember the door opening up. And I'm falling out looking, fixing PC concrete. And then my mom just grabs me and snatches me back up into the car. you know that's like one of the first memories that i that i have of being like three or four years old and i don't know if it was something you know that should have happened that didn't happen and then you know you wind up being a little more in tune to other things you know because i mean i i tried to like when i was when i was younger and this is like probably probably three or four same time.

I mean, I, one time I was asleep and I woke up and my face was like close to the ceiling and I freaked out, dude. And when I did, I started screaming and I fell down to the bed. And then I remember my feet were on the wall and I was just, you know, kicking his screaming and my dad had run in. You know, what's the matter? But I was, you know, I just remember that. I have that memory. There was another memory that I had where I actually seen something looked through my window at that same age. And when I think about it now, and what's even crazier too, to me it was like a gray.

But like I said, I was a little kid. And for some reason, like little midget, like clowns and stuff, anything little like that really freaked the shit out of me. I was growing up, you know what I mean? And I don't know if it had to do with something like that, you know, that, that I did see because it was like that, and I just remember seeing it peeked through the window. And I had told my wife that, you know, this is a memory that I'm, that I'm remembering, that I hadn't remembered them in such a long time. And I remember it was, you know, I was around three or four years old.

It had to been like, I think it was about 1979, 78 or 79 when that happened. So I tell my wife this, and she was, like, very surprised because she said practically the same thing happened to her when she was little in Houston, you know, entity at the window. I was like, what? Are you kidding me? Yeah, so a lot of our experiences, they're, they're paralleling. You know what I mean? So you guys grew up together since you were 12. Is that, I'm assuming that's in the same neighborhood? Yeah, we live in the same townhouse. just growing up. So the, I was actually friends with her.

I was just going to say these experiences, I mean, when you see something look through the window, it very well could be the very same thing looking through her window too,

right? That's what I was, you know, and I tried to ask her, the description of hers is a little bit different than mine. But yeah,

it's the same. It's an entity at the window, you know? And that was like, that freaked me out. I was like, wow, what?

And then, you know, and we have kids too, and our kids are like, in tune to stuff also. Like, my daughter is extremely. She'll see things, fill things, you know, just like how I grew up. And in fact, she told me a couple of times, well, we would go visit people and they lived in an old house that she would see, you know, entities and stuff like that. like one in a flannel shirt, you know, and, you know, different, different things like that. And when she was really, really small, this is, this was something that that freaked us out. Not freaked us out. Because, I mean, it's weird things happen to us.

So it's not really much to freak out. But this was like a day before my wife's grandfather had died. And he was already, you know, he was old. He was, you know, we knew it was coming. And, uh, she said that she heard Priscilla in her room say, because her we're half well my wife's Mexican and so her grandparents are

they're Mexican they called her well well oh and grandpa let's say grandpa and she goes grandpa you know you're here and we already knew that you know her grandpa was sick and he didn't have much longer and my wife could hear her

in her room she's like grandpa where's you know where's wellah you know where's grandma and so my wife is like goes into the room and she sees sees Priscilla, there's a ray of light shining through the blinds and that she can see. And she sees Priscilla hugging that ray of light, you know, saying, I love you, grandpa, you know. And, you know, that night he died, you know. I was working night shift and shell refinery over there when I got the call and that, you know, he had passed.

And it was just so weird that that happened before. If I'm hearing you right, you said that, I think you said your wife saw your daughter hugging light. Yeah. And calling a grandpa. The raise of light. Wow. That's crazy. Right.

It's crazy. Like coming through. I know. I know. It's crazy, man. We have a granddaughter, too. And that's my daughter's daughter. and there's she's she's got it too man um she she had told you know reincarnation and stuff like that

you know our souls you know travel and you know and stuff like that well my granddaughter she's like three years old three or four years old when she tells my wife this she was like she goes i died before and we had already known about reincarnation Because we're spirit. We investigate everything. So if it's spiritual, we're going to check it out. You know, because there's a whole lot going on. And she, so my granddaughter tells my wife, yeah, I died.

And my wife is like, you died. She goes, how did you die? She goes, I died in jail. And she goes, you died in jail? She goes, what happened? She goes, I just died. And then just changed subjects. You know what I mean?

What? And yeah. I mean, and my, my granddaughter, she's, like, sharp and smart and she's, like, almost tell you what you're thinking, you know, she's just, like I said, we have a strange family. But, yeah, man, I mean, it's just, it's so, it's so wild, it's been a crazy experience. And I, you know, getting on YouTube and then hearing other people's stuff, it's like, it's like, well, I might as well. I mean, I'm already, like, I'll be 42. of December. I'm like, shoot, I don't even care. I'll tell anybody that wants to listen. Because a lot of times when I do that, like some people do, they just want to talk about it.

But other people are like, oh, yeah, I got a story too, you know. And I like hearing their stories because. Exactly. You know, it's not a one-up type situation. It's like just, yeah, let me hear your story because I got a crazy one too, you know? Yeah, no, I totally get it. Because, I mean, with me doing the show, when I first started the show the beginning of this year, I started telling people that I have this podcast and what's about. And I tell you, man, like, there's people at work, do it tell me stories and stuff that they never would have told anybody anyways? But because I brought the topic up, they started sharing

their stories. And it's great to get people opening up and talking about this stuff. I really like it. I love it when that happens. Because, I mean, like just today, like I was telling you earlier. Then my foreman that I worked with, he told me a story that happened in his 20s. That was just, I was like, I couldn't believe it. I go, this is something that I had never heard before. Anybody have seen, you know, have seen anything like this. Yeah, well, why don't you hold up right there?

We'll take a break. And when we come back, you can actually go into the details of what your foreman saw. Sound good? Okay, cool. Awesome, man. We'll be right back. Okay, we're back. And, Rob, why don't you just pick up where we left off here and share with us what exactly

your foreman saw? Sound good? Okay, well, like I said, he told me this today, and he's 57 years old now, and what he saw happened when he was in his 20s, and it was in San Luis, Pass, Texas. And they were out there doing night fishing, and with some friends, and when he saw what he thought was a satellite shooting across the sky, you know, he was just observing it, he saw two more lights. come up behind it, catch up to the first one. And with them tailing that first light that was going across, one shoots out in front of it and makes it stop. So he says at that moment, he's got all three lights that he's watching just sitting there.

And he said it seemed like it had to have been like a minute or two. Well, at that point, all three of those lights go back all through together, the direction that they had originally come from till he said he couldn't see it see them anymore but it was just so odd that I was like I've never heard a story of that to where somebody saw a light and two more lights went and intercepted it and he said this was out this was this was not in our atmosphere this was out you know above you know what he was watching and yeah never never saw that before and I had never heard of that. The two lights went over there, grabbed that

third, that one, and then they flew back, you know. And he said he hadn't told anybody that, in that since he was in his 20s, but I was talking to him, telling him about what I was going to be doing tonight talking to you. He went ahead and shared it, and I was like, hey, well,

is it okay if I share it? And he said, yeah. But, yeah, he said that was the strangest thing. Yeah, it's funny how you talk about UFOs and these lights in the sky, meaning plural. And a lot of times, it's three lights, you know, and I wonder why that is. I don't know. But what you just described with your foreman, it really sounds like those lights were intelligent, at least, whether they were intelligently controlled or intelligent on their own merit. It definitely seems like there was

intelligence behind it. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And see, and that's funny. You said it about the three lights because that's like with the lights that we saw on Thanksgiving.

Yeah, we saw a bunch of lights, but they were in formations of three looking like a triangle when, you know, when you finally could get your eye on them, you know. And I don't know what's up. And then with what we saw, we were teenagers, the three, the three spheres of light, you You know, there's mechanical UFOs and, you know, there's other kinds or just these spears of light, you know. That's what was, that's what I've been seeing the most. And but what just trips me up the most is the one that we saw that was in Pasadena that we lost time. That one I can't even begin to try to figure that one out, you know.

But, you know, those other ones are easy. I saw lights in the sky, you know, hey, I got a video of the lights in the sky. But that one right there, I don't know about that. That's why I'm really interested in maybe trying to do some regress hypnotherapist and therapy, you know. If you ever do go and get that regressive therapy done, I would definitely be interested to hear what you remember. Okay.

Because I find that so trippy myself because I've experienced lost time when I was a teenager. And it was the weirdest thing because there was no UFO. There wasn't any ghosts or anything like that. It was so weird because it was probably, it was the middle of the day. And I believe it was noon because me and my friends, we went up to the park to play basketball. And we always played our games to 11, maximum 15. And we had an hour and a half where we were able to be up there and play before we had to get going.

We played one game to, let's just say 15. We checked the clock and it was time to go. So in one game, an hour and a half went by and none of us remember how that's even possible. It just happened. It's weird. And then how did y'all feel physically? Did you all feel like y'all had played for that long or no? I don't remember.

I remember we were all like baffled by it. And it seems like, you know, the thing is with me, I always look at this stuff more than anybody else. Because I'm walking back to my house with my friends, I'm thinking myself and I'm trying to talk to them about. and just like, oh, yeah, okay. Like, they just didn't care. And I'm like, wow, how do you guys not care about this? Like, we just lost an hour and a half of time. Yeah, and it's like nothing.

That's crazy. I mean, that's, that is very strange. The whole losing time thing is that's, where did it go? Yeah, and did you say that when that happened to you guys, did you guys talk about it? I can't remember what you said. Okay, after initially happened. that we didn't even really talk about it.

We didn't talk about it at all because I didn't remember it until years later. And let me tell you this, I had a very vivid, vivid dream. Like, you know, you have a dream that you just remember everything about it. And this happened years later after the one that we saw the three of us. And see, every time I've seen something, it's always with somebody else. So it's like it's not just that one. own, you know, witness. I had this crazy dream, and I'm already older.

I'm an adult. I'm my kids are, you know, are growing and stuff. And I had this crazy dream that I was driving with my parents, my mom and dad, my brother and sister, and we were driving in an old Plymouth Voyager that we had when I was like in junior high. And I'm looking at them, and it's like they're just, they're just, they're almost looked like robots. They're just looking forward, you know.

And I'm like, look in it. And we're driving along the side of this mountain. And I'm seeing craft UFOs flying through the sky. And I'm like, what the heck is going on here? And I look at my parents and they're still, they're just, it's almost like the robots. While I'm watching this one UFO flying up to us and it flies up and as soon as it gets close to us, it flips upside down. and all I see is this bright blue neon light, right? And as soon as I see that, I'm on this craft with this individual.

It looks human, but he's talking to me in this weird strange language. And I'm like, I don't understand what you're saying. And he goes, well, is this better? And he starts speaking in English. And I'm like, yeah, that's a lot better. And in my dream, he asked me, he goes, well, we need to see if you can. and give us a hand here. And I'm in a white room

and then there's all these other rooms off of this big white room. And in my dream, and this is literally how it happened, I looked into those rooms and there was tables there and there was women there and there was blood everywhere.

And it was like he was asking me to help them deliver these babies or something. And I was like, I can't do that. And when I said that, I can't do that. I freaking woke up that morning, you know and I was like wow that was the strangest dream of how how it went down and I told my wife about it and I was like I should I I don't know if that dream there is linked somehow to the the one that the three of us saw next to the hospital in Pasadena I don't know I don't know but it was just it's such a weird dream that it just seemed so real that it was it was strange my

It might be connected, might not be, but I know when all this stuff was happening, I really wasn't into all of this like I am now, you know, as I've gotten older. I've never had time to when I was younger. You know, I was always working, taking care of the family and doing stuff like that, you know. And never really got a chance to try to investigate all this, but, you know, now. But I would definitely let you know on that regression therapy, you know. Yeah, definitely. But, yeah, I didn't see. That's just something I would like to ask because it was just such.

a weird dream. I just don't. And it wasn't, it wasn't normal to me. It wasn't. And I had heard of other people that had experiences, um, like in their dreams that they would be with, with people that they knew, but they would be like autonomous. It would be like robots. It was like they were there, but they weren't there. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's just, it's just another part of the crazy weird puzzle. I'm trying to get through. out. Well, when it comes to this stuff and, you know, the lost time and all that stuff, it's, it makes you very aware that you're really not in control. I mean, when it boils down to it, you're not in control. I mean, for instance, when you said that you had woken up in your face

was right near the ceiling and then you fell, I mean, to me, that sounds like you were in the middle of being abducted. Is that what you think? See, I was trying to figure that out too. And then when I start thinking about it, because this was the same time when I saw that entity look through the window, I was trying to figure out if it was that or if I was having the outer body experience. Because I used to like, when I was when I was little, I used to be able to like, I would feel myself falling asleep. I would see this weird shape with my eyes closed. And I knew I was fixing to fall asleep. But when I would start dreaming, I would be able to control my dreams as a kid. In my dream, if I did, if something happened that I didn't want to happen, I could literally, I would go back and redo it, you know.

That's just, when I was little, I used to have fun. When I was like, all right, it's time to go to bed, you know. But at the same time, bedtime was one of the scariest times. You know what I mean? So, I mean, like I said, it's just some, there's just weird stuff. Absolutely, man. Well, when you were saying earlier about the UFO saying that you had, I think you were the first one you were sharing.

You mentioned about white light dropping from these crafts. Were they balls of light, like orbs? They looked smaller than that. It looked, they were way smaller than the big orange fire-looking ball of the three. And it was almost like, it looked like a LED light that was falling from the bottom. And when I saw it, it fell from the bottom. And I told my wife, and then she had said that she saw another one do the same thing. And that's kind of what was like, on top of us seeing what we saw, we were like, what the heck was that that fell out of it?

I interviewed a guy, and I probably had his show on maybe two months ago, three months ago. And he was talking about, he's from Oklahoma, and he and his friend were walking down a road and they saw this craft. and they're about 50 feet away from it. It was right across the street from them. I mean, it was really close. And I remember him saying that he saw this ball of light come out of the craft, almost like it was exhaust. And I think he described it almost like it looked like it was made of like a plasma type thing.

But if I remember correctly, it's the way he described it and the glow to it, I believe was similar to what you just described as an LED light. I could be wrong. but I think he said it was like the size of a basketball. How close were you to this? Well, those, yeah, they were away from us. I really couldn't judge how far. They had to have been at least maybe a mile or two away from us

or maybe less than, maybe a mile between there. I even aren't, because I have it on the two videos on my YouTube channel, Rob Stockman, and I even had taken a daytime shot. The next day, I went ahead and stood back there where I was standing and where I was, you know, and filmed it in the daytime to kind of get an idea, you know. But they weren't that far. They were close enough to where we've seen them. And even in the video, you see the neighbors pull out and leaving their car. And my wife had said before they had left, they had said, hey, what's that in the sky?

You know, well, as we were looking at it, you know. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, would you mind if I shared those videos on the website when I post this show? Yeah, you can totally do that. Yeah, definitely so. Okay, because I'm actually looking at the videos right now. I just remember that you, I think, did you contact me through the YouTube channel, or did you contact me through email? I went ahead and I found you through YouTube because you had commented,

and then I went ahead and went to your podcast, and that's how I left your message. Got you. Okay, because I, I found you. I remember seeing this video. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I remember looking at your video stuff, and it's probably why because you contacted me. I definitely want to share these videos so that people can see what you saw.

And like you said, I mean, these videos don't give it justice, but you can definitely see there's stuff going on in the video for sure. Not at all, yeah. I mean, it was just, it was, like towards the video, I was already starting to get speechless because I was trying to wrap my mind around,

like, what is it that we're seeing? And especially after that, light dropped out of them. I was like, what is that? You know, that just kind of took it a whole other direction. You know, something weird is flying in the sky and something just fell out of it towards the ground. What is it?

Yeah. You know, so. But, yeah, yeah, you can definitely do that. That's not a problem at all. And shoot, I've been keeping my mind. And what's funny is, for the longest time after what Neil and wife had saw, I was like, starting to get frustrated. I was like, man, I want to see something again. When am I good? When are we going to see something again? You know, and then it happened. I was able

to pull my phone out and get it on video. So I was like, good. I got some footage to go with two stories. Yes, absolutely. I mean, you've definitely had a lot of experiences throughout your life. And I think the fact that you and your wife have had experiences together and separately, I mean, I think you're absolutely right. There's definitely something going on with you guys I don't want to say you guys are weird or anything like that, but I definitely think that there's, there's, uh,

something going on because it also seems generational. I don't think there are other people out there like us. Oh, I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I really am glad that I was able to tell you some of this stuff because some of this stuff, nobody knows, you know, other than outside of our family, you know. And, you know, our kids are all, you know, we're telling our kids stuff. I don't know, you know, like, be careful. There's stuff out there that, you know, that can get you. Yeah.

I'm waiting for you guys to contact me again with a Bigfoot story. Yeah, man, I'm really, really looking forward to this camping trip to see, you know, and my wife just told me to just start playing it cool, you know. So we're going to look for structures and just look for those signs, you know. and I can do some pretty good bigfoot calls, but I don't know if she's going to let me do it. Maybe when we get ready to leave. She has to.

She has to let you. I know. I know. Yeah, my brother and all, like I say, he's all into it too. And I've turned them on to some of the channels that I watch, you know. And, you know, so we're excited. You know, you never know. And don't forget, there's dog man out there, too.

Yeah. I mean, that's what we were saying in the pre-interview. I mean, this world is just so, so mysterious. I mean, I love it. Yeah. It's not boring. It's not boring like what you think. When you really start looking into some of this stuff,

and then, you know, if you really have stuff that you've experienced, you know, there's more to this world than just, you know, what we're told. Like what you were saying is, you know, we're lied to our whole life. Yes. You know, there's answers out there. We just got to try to go find them because they're not giving them to us. Well, I would say that we were manipulated our. entire lives with the school systems because it's generations of manipulation. So the teachers are

now teaching underneath manipulation themselves. And I don't think, and we're living in a society where people aren't striving for the truth to these kind of things because they don't even believe it exists. And so we're stuck in this situation where you and I and people like us are just these crazy, quote-unquote conspiracy theorists. And I just, I just wear that badge proudly anymore. I'm like, yeah, I am a conspiracy theorist, and I'm fine with that, you know? Yeah, me and my wife, we're talking about that yesterday. And I'm trying to remember how we said it. We're not conspiracy theorists. We're critical thinkers. Yes. Critical thinkers. I use this example a lot. When I tell people that I am a conspiracy theorist, I also use the example of,

and every good detective is a conspiracy theorist because they theorize on how things conspired. That's what a conspiracy theorist is. Hey, you've heard of, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Go ahead, go ahead. Nope, go ahead. John de la Sosa, you've heard of him? I have heard of him.

The ex-FBI agent. That's where I know from, yeah. I've probably seen him on YouTube. Man, that dude's good. and he breaks it down, just like what you're saying when you're investigating, he's got a whole formula

on how to investigate, you know, different things and different people and stuff like that. I was like, well, yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, you definitely got to check him. I liked him.

It was pretty well informative with some of the stuff. I think I've seen them on a leak project. He's been on a couple of other ones. Okay. Well, listen, man, I really appreciate you coming on tonight and sharing these stories.

I mean, you've been a great guest, to have on and just sharing you the different things you and your wife have experienced together. It's been awesome talking to you, man. I really appreciate it. Oh, man, I appreciate that, Tony. Man, I'm really glad to be on and, you know, at least give a little bit of what we got.

I didn't give it all up. So, you know, maybe I call you later. Let's give you some more. Yes, sir. That's fine with me. We can always do a sequel. That'll work. That'll totally work, man.

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