The Confessionals - 466: What Is CERN?

Episode Date: August 9, 2022

In Episode 466: What Is CERN? we are joined by Dave Zed from Generation Zed Podcast. A few months ago, I was a guest on the popular show, The Union of the Unwanted, a panel discussion show. They broug...ht me on to talk about UFOs, and that is where I met Dave. He blew me away with the knowledge he has obtained and he left me wanting to learn more. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, when we had a listener ask in our Instagram comments, "What is CERN?" I knew  then that I had to do a show on CERN, because the last CERN-related episode was Episode 57! It's clearly been too long and new listeners need to be introduced to the subject. I reached out to Dave, as he seemed to be someone who might know a little about CERN, and my assumptions we correct. On Episode 466, Dave breaks down what he believes CERN to be and what its true intentions are in the world. Is it simply a harmless underground 17-mile-in-diameter particle accelerator that crosses the border of Switzerland and France? Or, is there something more to it that they are not telling us about? Is it opening portals to another dimension? Are things actually coming through these supposed portals? If the latter is true, could we possibly be living in the real-life version of Stranger Things or worse? We explore these topics in today's episode, "What Is CERN?"Get your tickets to the 1st Annual Dogman/Cryptid Conference: https://bit.ly/3MXCnnuBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSPONSORSGET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tonyGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionals@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaITikTok: @theconfessionalsDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - ShutUp N DriveYouTube: https://bit.ly/3yH4kvGApple Music: https://apple.co/3nDfsU1Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3nErEUIGeneration Zed PodcastLinks: https://altmediaunited.com/generation-zed-podcast/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/generationzed

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Merkel Media Are we living in Stranger Things? How real is Stranger Things? My humble opinion, I think Stranger Things is a scaled-back version. This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw speech up underneath the door curl up to grab it and then disappeared. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
Starting point is 00:00:41 This giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. Well, the giant moves. He's got a spear in one hand. And he's running really fast. And spears Dan holds him up like this. Somebody else. Shoot him in the face.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. Closer, got closer, got closer, got closer. When he got about 15 yards away from me, I raised that 12 days and I blow his head off. I feel something pulling him. at my leg. And I look over and there are two small gray entities pulling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Yeah. Welcome to the show. Everybody,
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Starting point is 00:03:36 All right, friends, listen, we have Dave Zed coming on the show today from Generation Zed podcast. I first met him a few months back on the Union of the Unwanted podcast where they had a panel. We were talking UFOs. And he was just dropping knowledge more than I had seen in very long time. And so when I wanted to do a show about CERN, I was thinking, you know what, that guy dropped so much knowledge that he might know something about CERN. Boy, did he ever. This guy is like a savant on anything that we talk about on this show. I promise you guys, you're going to really enjoy this conversation with Dave. So let's get to Dave right now.
Starting point is 00:04:32 All right, today we got Dave, Dave Zed on the show. Dave, how are you, sir? I'm doing great, man. Thank you so very much for having me. And let me just say that I am a huge fan of your show and what you discuss, mainly because I want to say with the utmost respect, I think that your show is one of the few that really finds a way to merge the anomalous, what's called anomalous high strangeness with the paranormal. And if I could just say right off the bat, I'm of the humble perspective currently that what we call paranormal activity, polter guys, activity, ESP, extrace sensory perception, and not just the UAP, UFO topic, but the entire apparatus of what we're living in, called reality, are literally one in the same. So thank you
Starting point is 00:05:20 so much for even reaching out a few weeks ago as you did. And I'm truly very honored to be here. Well, I'm glad you're here. And like I said, before we started recording, I'll send you to the check in the mail to say the nice things about me. I really do appreciate you following through on our agreement. So, yeah, I mean, you mentioned that I contacted you a few weeks ago. So the audience knows, I stumbled across your Instagram and then a few days later, you and I are both on the Union of the Unwanted show that's hosted by four different podcasters and a fantastic show.
Starting point is 00:05:56 People should check it out. Great guys. But we, I forget what we were talking about. I guess the topic was, oh, it was the hearings about the UAPs and the UFOs and stuff. and I came on and I was like, you know, I always, when I come to a group show like that, I just kind of hover in the background to begin with. It's just my style. It's like, I'm like that at parties. Like I walk into a room and you're going to find like, if you want to find me, you're going to look in the corner of the room because I'm just like observing, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:24 like it takes me like an hour or two to kind of ease up and calm down and just like, okay, all right, it's time to relax a little bit. And so that's what I do on these group shows. And so I'm just kind of listening and stuff. And you and a couple of other, guys were just going off. And, and I was like, these guys are saying things that I don't even understand. So I'm just here to listen. Like, and, uh, I was, I was really impressed by a lot of the guys. A Sean Stone, I think, was there. And he, he told me he'd come on the show. And I got to talk to him about that. I got to reach out to him. And I recently in the last two weeks just started recording again in the new studio. Um, but I, uh, I reached out to you because we were talking about the
Starting point is 00:07:03 UAPs, UFOs. You say UAPs. I always say UFOs. I'm like, I'm like, um, I'm like, uh, I'm like, very anti-UAP terminology, just because I'm like, it's a hijacked term. But I, um, I reached out to you on just like a whim and you said, yeah, I'll come on. And what I reached out to you about was CERN. And I wasn't sure, I really wasn't sure if you really had things to say about that, but you just struck me as a guy that just knew a lot about a lot. And so I was like, let me just, let me just reach out to him. And it kind of, this whole thing is spawned. Now, the, the audience needs understand that I've talked about CERN over the years, but it's been a long, long time. I've maybe mentioned it here and there throughout episodes as just a, you know, oh yeah, CERN has Shiva, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:48 or something like that. But I'm going to have the list here. Episode 57, I did CERN. I just called it CERN with Gary Wayne. And we did a CERN episode that's years ago. And then recently for episode 458. I did Georgia Guysstone, CERN, and MIB, which was really a general just sit down conversation I did with my friend and just kind of went everywhere. So this is actually the very first episode I'm doing on CERN that's for CERN and of that kind of topic. And it's, I want to get this guy a shout out. His name is Junior Alvarez. And I posted on Instagram or on my Twitter and I took a screenshot and posted on the Instagram at polling people asking them what they wanted a certain show on and stuff. And I, and CERN was in there. And he's like, I think he said
Starting point is 00:08:37 something like, what is a CERN or something like that? And I was like, oh, oh, you, you're getting CERN now, because my friend, you need to know what CERN is. Right, right. To Mr. Alvarez, I don't mean to be laughing at you, sir. It's just, again, it's actually, I would dare to argue it's probably better these days that we don't know what CERN is. It speaks to that whole, you know, blissful ignorance concept. but yeah absolutely absolutely and it was such a it was such an innocent question it like because you've seen it on social media you get trolls and stuff and and you know they say things that are tongue and cheek but this was just like hey cern sounds interesting but what is it and i'm just like for you you just spawn an entire episode because if you don't know what cern is there's other people like you and
Starting point is 00:09:24 people need to know and uh because i think that cern actually is something that has a big reason as to why the world is the way it is today. And so I just, I wanted to have somebody on and I've reached out to you and you said you come on. So thank you very much for that. And with that said, Dave, what is a CERN? Well, first off, let me just say to yourself, Tony, as you know, because we spoke before we recorded, but more so to your audience specifically that what we do here, I'm, my name is Dave Zed. I'm the creator and host of the Generation Zed podcast, ZED. on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And what we do is basically we don't claim to pursue any particular path in specific pertaining to who's right versus who's wrong. But rather what we do is we try and find a way to take all of the metaphorical slices of that metaphorical pie or pizza and bring it all together in a way that not necessarily reinforces people's confirmation bias, but more so provides an integral. system of sorts. And the reason I bring that up is because this speaks to the whole concept of the paranormal and CERN. And so before I delve into CERN specifically, one thing I would like to say, if I may, and I think this will resonate quite avidly with your audience, Tony, is that when we
Starting point is 00:10:47 look, for example, at what's called the paranormal, forgive me for splicing hairs here, but let's take a look at that word for a second. Pera means unknown or something, you know, phenomenological, normal. So it's not normal. That's essentially the word paranormal. Now, when we look at the concept of things like, let's say, you know, the quote unquote nuts and both science, as people say, people are always saying, where is that merging point between the paranormal or the, the woo, as they call it, whether it's UFO or high strangeness, skin walker, you name it, and the academic community, the scientific community. Where's the merging point? Now, if we dismiss the stigmatizing, and the dogma and all of that, you will find within academic peer-reviewed papers and you will find
Starting point is 00:11:33 certain individuals within the academic community of STEM, science, technology, engineering, mathematics, that if you go to the right people, you will have a very interesting conversation about UFOs, paranormal, you name it, because what I have personally found is that let's take a look at something like this for a moment. When people say, oh, I saw something with the corner of my eye, or I saw my, you know, a deceased, unfortunately deceased lover. And they appeared in a sort of a, we call it a spiritual form because we have no other way to, you know, liken it to. But I would say, and I could be very wrong, but I would say currently at least on our show, particularly on our Patreon, we're pursuing the concept of plasma being this type of medium or gaseous state that allows for the quote unquote paranormal realms or worlds. into to merge into what we call the quote unquote nuts and bolts physical and the reason i bring that up
Starting point is 00:12:30 is let's use a very simple example carbon monoxide carbon dioxide that for some you know this speaks to the the propagandization of the the labeling of stigmatization and verbiage if you say there's um carbon monoxide carbon dioxide in the garage so you say that's your wife your husband oh you know okay oh honey open the garage you know let it let it cool out the whole let it air out all that kind of stuff because maybe the car was on for too long. That's accepted like it's nothing. But the second someone says, well, I had a smell of a deceased family member,
Starting point is 00:13:04 and I saw them. And they kind of looked like the similar form of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide. We then immediately, everyone goes, no, that's a figment of your imagination. So it's like, hold on a second. We look at the academic literature in the scientific community,
Starting point is 00:13:18 and we find, up until very recently, there was little to nothing on things like ball lightning, plasma, all of that. We then have, for example, Salvatore Paiz, who's known more commonly as if you type in on Google, the UFO Navy patent guy. And he recently went on a show and he talked about how he said he cannot, obviously for national security reasons and all of this,
Starting point is 00:13:43 he cannot say how the craft operates. But what he said was, these were based on allegedly leaked patents that the Navy then retracted. He said, you cannot achieve these types of, types of, you could say, densities or succession of what we call anti-gravity with solids, but you can with plasmas. Now, one thing I find quite peculiar is that when you look at a black hole or a wormhole, in a particular, you could say, radar filter, what you'll find is that you see what
Starting point is 00:14:12 look like, you could say white spiraling cones coming from all over outside of the wormhole, the black hole, you name it. And I'm getting, I'm leading up to Sir, and you'll see. a moment. This then speaks to the concept of a spiral. If you look at ancient Sumer, ancient Mesopotamia, ancient Egypt, the Egyptians would say, Father time fears the pyramids. Because it seems as though, you look, for example, at ancient Mesopotamia, you look at the Vatican today. There's the pine cones, constantly with the pine cones. People say that that's an interpretation or a, you know, representation of some type of ideological, you know, symbolism or meaning. Who am I to say,
Starting point is 00:14:53 That's wrong. I could very well be. However, one thing I've noticed is that if you look at the schematics of the way in which CERN was built in Switzerland, which is also directly over top of an alleged what we call layline, there seems to be an identical, you could say, construction-based apparatus or paradigm, or you could say blueprint, rather, that was sort of copied from what we, the reality or archetype of the world we live in. Now, what is CERN in layman's terms? They claim their smashing particles together very quickly, having to do with light and sound, photons and phonons and all of this and the oscillations and vibrations of sound and light to be able to discover new particles. I'm going to be very blunt with you in my humble perspective. I think it's like many other people, I think it's a Stargate largely because of the scientific and academic literature that I've been reading into that is there in the public domain.
Starting point is 00:15:49 but it's not addressed within certain aspects of, say, for example, the military industrial complex, the military media complex, you name it. So this speaks to the concept of, well, if you can't disprove something because it's true, but we don't want to tell the masses about what we're really doing, just attack it or dismiss it. And so CERN is essentially on the surface, they claim the large Hadron Collider, they're smashing particles together very quickly. Now, I then think of something like this to speak to your audience, Tony. Einstein said nothing can go faster than the speed of light. I don't think he's exactly wrong, but I think nothing physical can go fast. Nothing dense can go faster than the speed of light, but I think we can. Our soul can.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Now, what do you mean by our soul? The chi, the prana, the whatever you want to call it, I don't claim to have a solidified, dead-on answer of that. But it's sort of like I gave this example in a Twitter spaces room that I was doing yesterday evening. And it's, think of you are born in a car, for example, and someone's painted over the door handles of that car to give the illusion that you can never get out of the car. Shitty example, but let's roll with it. The second you're born, you're born in the car and your whole life, you're driving around in that car and you don't know that you can leave it. You want to approach, you drive up to a McDonald's drive-thru one day and you realize that your car is too wide to fit through the drive-thru. Right?
Starting point is 00:17:15 But then you realize, hold on a second. let me reach for where the handle would normally be because someone's given the illusion to pretend that you can never leave that car. And you realize, hold on, it looks like there's no handle here, but when I touch it, there is. And then you realize that you can get out of the car. And then once you get out of the car, you realize that you are small enough to fit through that McDonald's drive-thru by walking through it. I think in this example, the car is our physical body.
Starting point is 00:17:41 The soul, the chi, the prana is us leaving the car, if that makes sense. And so forgive me for jumping all over the place, but I think what we're seeing here with CERN, when you look at the blueprints is of the way in which the structure is occurring underground, we're seeing a pine cone type spiral blueprint schematic, which is in the public domain within Ossint, as it's called open source intelligence, if you will, that shows the way in which it's built. Now, there's something called in the scientific community called the Aronoff-Bome effect, where when you run a neutrino beam through a close, state of temperature or, you know, a confined state of whatever you're looking to induce electromagnetically or otherwise, you'll find that there's a way to sort of stabilize this type of, you know, phenomenon by running a neutrino beam through the center. What's interesting is this. It's been claimed publicly that neutrinos exist, but they're not strong enough to carry information. This is where I think your audience and yourself, Tony,
Starting point is 00:18:42 will resonate. I think we, we can. Our intent can. There are, there are now papers coming out in the academic literature, for example, one by Etzio Gagliardi and Gina Mondini called DNA modification through remote intent. Now, the question then becomes, what's the difference between that telekinesis, you know, what Ingo-Swan and Dr. Hal Pudov did in the 70s being able to fluctuate the temperature on the other end of the room when you were inside a Faraday cage? It's just, in my humble opinion, it's the alteration of verbiage to attempt to give a different, you know, visual depiction to the people when it's really the same thing overall. I think what CERN is doing is that, but on a much larger scale relative to that of the planet,
Starting point is 00:19:28 the same way that it's been hypothesized that psychotronics are conducted on into the average, you know, everyday American, for example, I think what CERN is doing is, dare I say, I say this very carefully, but a larger aspect of extra sensory psychotronic influence over the planet, essentially, if that makes sense. And I think what we're seeing is a movement of, and I want to be clear to your audience, I am just as, I'm just like yourself when I hear people say quantum consciousness, the hell does that mean, right? Because everyone throws these words straight, let's be straight up here.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Everyone throws these fucking words around. We don't know what's going. We don't know. Everyone says, oh, you know, the quantization of the quantum particles and the conscious, okay, well, let's, you know, let's zoom in a little bit. So, for example, when we look at numbers and shapes and all of this, we have single, double, triple, and then quadruple, quad. There's the QUA. From an etymological perspective, I take quantum as that, completing the four, you could say, corners of that square. And I think that speaks to the ancients talking about, you know, squaring the circle. I think this speaks to the alleged worship of Saturn. the planet of Saturn, which, by the way, there is academic literature from a frequential point in time that would be able to substantiate that, again, remote intent towards a particular focus or target that each human is individually in a sovereign sense
Starting point is 00:20:55 focusing on does in fact emit bioresonine frequencies that just so happen to travel in a more narrow fashion towards what you're focusing on. I think CERN is that, except on a much larger scale. And I think what we see those dances, those rituals before the, the large Hadron colliders turned on. The Shiva, the destroyer, that symbol being there. I think that is a form of what's called in the physics or mathematics community, postulating an axiom via that of partial derivatives within, you could say, within certain bidirectional infolding. And now let me sum that up in layman's terms, because I'm not trying to get all with the big words and stuff. essentially when someone says postulating an axiom, it's basically saying we start here.
Starting point is 00:21:43 That's all that basically means. And the reason I want to bring this up, brothers, because I think we've gone on far too long as a society and me being guilty of this as well, feeling that these people on Wall Street, these people in the scientific community, these people here or there, only they can do what they do. Let them do. You know, let's go stick. Let's go to our jobs. Let them do what they do. You see what I'm saying? As a matter of fact, I would say that it's the complete.
Starting point is 00:22:06 opposite. We need as many people working together collaborating as possible. That has been a form of, you could say, propagandization to butcher like a pizza, the academic field. You have, you know, say you're an engineer and I'm a physicist, for example. You're an engineer, Tony, stay in your lane. You don't know what you're talking about. I'm a physicist. You see what I'm saying? And then it, that devolves into human ego. And I think that devolvment of arguing deepens the matrix and the matrix, I use that loosely. You could say, you know, the reality we're in, the simulation, whatever you want to call it. I think ultimately, that is what CERN harnesses, arguments, intent, thoughts, thought forms, what's called, you know, egregores, neurological form constants.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I think CERN is a multi-pronged tool, if you will. And just like any other tool, I don't think it is good nor bad. I think it's who's behind the control room and which way they lean it. So that's my, that's my two cents on CERN. Forgive me for the rambling. And I want to, again, thank your, thank your audience for sticking through that. But hopefully that's a little bit of a different perspective on what's going on there. People say CERN is opening up portal, Stargates. I would agree with that relative to everything I just described.
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Starting point is 00:25:49 Okay. Yes, absolutely. Now, I thank you for asking that, brother, because now I'm going to do something. I'm going to say something that I say in good faith, but I also respectfully would like anyone to attempt to debunk or disprove what I'm about to say here and I want to be clear. I didn't think of this, come up with it first. Everywhere you look is a right angle. Everywhere somebody looks is a right angle. Now, why do I say that? What does that
Starting point is 00:26:16 have to do with CERN and the Mandela effect? Well, if we go back to the 1800s, what we'll find in mathematics, particularly Hendrick Lorenz, this is named after the Lorentz 90 degree right angle vector states that are used in mathematics, right? And in physics and engineering and all of this. We don't always, the vector state, the 90 degree right angle is what makes up everything all around us. This speaks to then the concept of simulation theory, whatever you look. It only loads up wherever you look based on your, again, that concept of the 90 degree right angle and sort of like loading up a part of the, you know, the video game and the environment. The reason I bring this up is because
Starting point is 00:26:57 I think relative to what we call the lay lines, not the NASCAR lines, but the lay lines. And it's been also debated, which I don't disagree with, that there's been attempts to bullshit and lie by certain government bodies to disseminate info on the internet about where the laylines are versus where they
Starting point is 00:27:16 aren't and, you know, to try and fool people so they don't really go to the actual ones. Point being is that relative to the laylines of the planet, the alleged natural ones, I think that speaks to what's called Riemannian manifolds, Riemian geometry, which is non-Euclidean, which means not straight. That's all that simply means, which is elliptic, hyperbolic, all of that. And I think what we're seeing there is the Mandela effect relative to the way in which we observe
Starting point is 00:27:43 and understand standard modeling in algebra and physics as 90-degree right angles. I think what we're seeing there is the remnants of some type of enablement in an esoteric sense coming from CERN and then disseminating onto the planet and the tips of those right angles are the laylines. And so it's kind of like the, forgive me for not given as good of a depiction as I have in my head visually. But every time we could say a Stargate, a portal, whatever you want to call it, is opened, enabled, or as they say publicly, particles are smashed together. I think what we're seeing is a dissemination or a ripple effect within the 90 degree right angle vector two different parts of the planet.
Starting point is 00:28:27 So when someone leaves their house in the morning, they, you know, they see someone walk in their dog, they blink, they look down, they check their phone, you know, sip their coffee, they look up again. They just saw that same person walk their dog in that same motion. Meanwhile, that person should really be, you know, half a kilometer down. And it's like, what the hell? I just saw that happen again. So like, I think what we're seeing there is that of which is an optical and a
Starting point is 00:28:51 frequential influence. And I, if I could say one last thing, with respects to cutting through the crap in terms of CERN, the, the, the esoteric, the paranormal, all of that, people say, well, how come now we're waking up, you know, or people are noticing more now, even the average person, whether it's seeing certain interesting things in the sky and all that kind of stuff. Well, people say, oh, well, don't you know, Dave, Tony, it's the age of Aquarius. You know, it's everyone's the age of acquires, everybody wakes up. Well, to your point, Tony, what does that mean? What is that, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:28 What does that really mean? Right. So my whole thing essentially is, okay, let's look, for example, at what seems to be the, quote, unquote, you know, not so much unknown history, but, you know, sort of push to the side, quote unquote, high strangeness history, if you will. Which I think actually should be more of the normal than anything, than the other way around. But what you see there is the zodiac wheel has always been. in time and time again from an astrothelological perspective. And we have someone on our on our Patreon as well that comes on and does a beautiful job of that. From an astro theological perspective, the zodiac wheel, regardless of where on the planet, and regardless of when and who and all this,
Starting point is 00:30:05 seem to be followed pertaining to, you need to follow the, you know, the processions of the equinox and all of this in order to know when to harvest, when to plant, when to hunker out or bunker down for, you know, some cold that's coming. Well, I think what we're seeing with, respects to CERN is sort of a double-edged sword. If there are malevolent beings or forces, human or otherwise, behind CERN, not just guarding, but guiding the direction in which the large Hadron Collider is going in terms of affecting consciousness, opening portals, all of that. I think, as like the hermetic principles say, as above so below, by definition, if there is bad, there has to be good. And if there is good, there has to be bad by definition. There's no other
Starting point is 00:30:48 way to you need a focal point to compare something to it's like if i you know say for example tony uh you just say you made me in a laboratory and you just threw me into a party uh someone's house party how do i know i'm having a good time if i've never had a bad one there's nothing to compare it to you see what i'm saying there's no pillar to go hold on a second this is i know this is good or this is more uh you know we could say um more pleasurable because i've been in a shitty situation before. Like, it's like trying to explain water to a baby who's never, who doesn't know, who's never seen water, let alone know what the color blue looks like. How do you explain it? Well, it's blue. Okay. You see what I'm saying? Well, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:31:29 Oh, come on, bro. You haven't seen blue before? See, that's the most, that's the farthest it goes. And so what I'm saying here is that when people talk about the age of Aquarius and the zodiac and all of this, I think what we're seeing there is very similar. And I brought this up on the, the Twitter spaces last night, very similar to say you live in New York. let's say. And you live in an apartment and New York hot summers, cold winters, the whole thing. You got your door, your window open in your apartment in New York. And it's freezing cold. It's Christmas time, all that. You hop into bed at night. You leave the window cracked open so you feel the cold. Why one would do that? I don't know, but let's run with that example. You have one blanket over your bed
Starting point is 00:32:09 when you go to sleep. Are you going to feel the cold coming in from that window, the breeze, when more prominently, if you have one blanket on or if you have five layers of blankets on, you're going to feel it if you just have one on. I liken those blankets to frequencies that are being disseminated onto the planet. In the in what's called the Age of Aquarius, the frequencies have lightened in their densification, if that makes sense. And I think, again, for those that are more nuts and bolts and are like, well, this may be nonsense, I would say take a look at the academic literature pertaining to ser.
Starting point is 00:32:45 and how they correlate this with lasers. It's at this point, again, I don't mean to get all woo or overly over the top here, but we then have to ask ourselves, what is physical? What does that even mean? Forget real. There's a difference. So, for example, my bracelet here, right? I can hold this.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I can feel that it. It's interactable. Well, let's go back to our example of carbon monoxide, dioxide, dioxide, even plasma. How come when I see someone who's been deceased? and they're interacting with me. I don't, for example, how come they, I would have a dream of them touching me or, you know, let's say sitting on my lap, for example, and then I wake up the next morning and my right thigh is sore, almost as if someone was actually sitting there.
Starting point is 00:33:32 But they seem, from my experience, they were too light to in wait to be able to effectuate an actual feeling as if they were on my leg. And so I think what we're seeing there, Tony, is we're seeing the emergence of, of what we call physical objects with that of what we call plasma pertaining specifically to, because if you look up publicly on the internet what plasma is, they won't say. It's a gas, I don't know, you know, this and that. We don't genuinely, we don't know. As a matter of fact, you look up the meaning of energy.
Starting point is 00:34:00 If you really look at the problem, we don't really know what energy is either. But point being is that ultimately, I think what we're seeing is things that we call nuts and bolts and physical are just densified vibratory elements, moving, much, faster in a confined space to then send a bioreceptive feedback to our nervous system relative to our five senses and observables that then let our brain know, oh, you're touching something, you're holding something. But in reality, that should not be the case. And I think CERN is amplifying that feeling. For better or worse is not for me to say. But I think that's what's happening there. And then again, going back to the paranormal angle of things, well, I think that's
Starting point is 00:34:43 why plasma has been and ball lightning and things like this have been so, I don't want to say ridiculed, but dismissed, ignored, not funded within the scientific community. You look at the funding comes from the same, you know, three, four bodies of, you know, academia. So make of that as you will too. But again, sorry for the rambling, but just to try and cover all of the different aspects of the Mandela effect, the, you know, Zodiac, Age of Aquarius, trying to put more meaning behind that is what we're trying to do here. And I could be dead wrong. I'm very open to someone coming in going, Dave,
Starting point is 00:35:20 I think you're wrong about this, this and that. Genuinely, in a good faith manner, I say, okay, what do you think, genuinely? Can we work together in a way to integrate this?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Am I dead wrong? Do I have certain parts? You see what I'm saying? Yeah. And I think that's the best way forward because at least my personal research has found that there's no difference between what we call paranormal and UAP, big foot, you name it. No, I agree. I think that they, so I think traditionally people have wanted to, they've wanted to compartmentalize a lot of this stuff. When I started this podcast, one of my
Starting point is 00:35:55 inward goals that I had that I really didn't want, at the time I didn't talk a whole lot about, but it's just how I felt about things. I was thinking, I think a lot of this stuff is much more related to each other than we give it credit for. And so when it comes to like these creatures, people seeing, where are they coming from, how do they exist? Because I mean, for a long time, Bigfoot was just a very physical creature. People didn't talk about the wooey type stuff with it. But now, like at least recently, as far as I can remember, it's becoming much more accepted. And I think it's because we're learning and understanding how weird the world really is around us. And people are coming to new understandings where they're like, well, if this is true over here,
Starting point is 00:36:38 then I probably need to reassess how I view this over here because it can't be polar opposites anymore. To your point, I also want to say as well, for me, it's not so much the absence of evidence, nearly as much as it is, the evidence of deliberate absence. Why do I say that? Well, Bigfoot is seen very close to many military bases, particularly United States ones situated all over the planet.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Aren't there craft coming and going on those same bases, UFO craft? Why is there no attempted correlation to be made, if any? And look, we also have to be willing to say we can put years into research and turn up with nothing, because sometimes there truly is nothing there. But we have to, I think everything, to quote Dr. Hal Pudoff, everything should be on the table until there's enough. data to take them off the table because it's this concept of again we're being put within a system forgive me i don't mean to fearmonger and jump over this whole we're stuck and all this kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:37:50 no but people are used to me doing it now pertaining to the currency system for example let's look at a second uh for a second money this concept of intent of whatever you put your focus to you know when people say i'm setting my intent well okay you're you're personally as a sovereign human being you know person spirits whatever you want to soul you know mind whatever you're choosing it's very simple you're choosing something to focus on it's as simple as that that's setting an intent i think what we're seeing there relative to the way in which people look around and go okay i saw this or i i experienced it whatever that means to whatever extent why is it that it's not being followed up on okay so when it comes to money we're being told by who the military industrial
Starting point is 00:38:37 complex, the military media complex. Notice, it's not one individual jamming it into your head. It's an apparatus or a system that cannot be pointed to one particular individual. So none of us can go, oh, look, it's that guy or that girl, you know, that's behind all of this. We're being told to use intent to give value to a currency that is purely made up of our imagination. The value is imaginative. It's where, you know, this, if enough people believe in it, this bracelet could be worth a billion dollars within two minutes. because enough people believe in it. So we're being told to use our intent to give value to something that we're then being told if we think outside of giving value to money and we think can we give value to something else
Starting point is 00:39:19 is just a figment of our imagination. You see what I'm saying? Whoever set this system up, I got to applaud a piece of shit, a genius. Because my God, like, holy crap, you're telling us to, you're telling us to basically give intent and focus on the same thing that anything you think. think outside of other than money is nonsense when people say oh it's just a figment of your imagination well imagination is another word for intent and do we not give intent to currency so again this speaks to this speaks to this speaks to uh in my opinion rituals this speaks to uh to what extent the ritual
Starting point is 00:39:54 is good or bad i think it depends on again a ritual is a tool it depends on how you lean it so when people talk about um for example we've been exploring on our patreon lately when mr sean stone and interviewed Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino back in 2016 or 17. He said, Mr. Aquino, when you do these rituals at your temple of set and you manifest these beings or manifest whatever you manifest, are they like, do they, is it like in the movies? You know, they come up from the sigils and their beings. They was like, you know, the recent Spider-Man movie, Toby McGuire walks through the
Starting point is 00:40:26 portal, like what's going on here? And Mr. Aquino says, well, not exactly like that. I think, I don't think Mr. Aquino was lying per se. I think this speaks to the concept of egregors, neurological form constants, and the Gnostic, you know, Demiurge, Arcon, Engel, where you are manifesting via your intent an idea that is then disseminated into society. Now, what would those ideas be? Notice that when someone's in line, whether it's, you know, on a female side, Victoria's Secret for that new bra or that new lingerie or on the, you know, on a technological side, people are lining up for that new Apple phone, that new iPhone, right? the pursuit of the product is more important or more significant and valuable to you than the actual product itself. Do you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:14 It's the experience leading up to it. And this also speaks to the joys in the journey in a philosophical sense. We now have computer scientists in academia going out on a limb. I got to give credit to them saying that, because some of them are being attacked for saying this, that if you have an energy node and then you have a frequency string or a transition state from, one node to another or modality to another. Some have argued in their opinion, the transition state or the frequency string from one node to another is more significant than the node or modality it's going to be landing at or going to. That again speaks to the joy is in the journey.
Starting point is 00:41:53 The caduceus, if you will, in all of the ancient cultures, the staff is, or the caduceus is life. Life never stops moving, if you see what I'm saying. And I'm I think when you when you consider that and then you merge the paranormal, the big foot angles, at least in my view, which I could be very wrong, but by definition, it's one big pizza, brother, metaphor, or pie, metaphorically. You can't have one without the other. Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't, you know, so that's, that's just me.
Starting point is 00:42:25 That's what I look at it. It's like someone came and took what we call life representative of a metaphorical pizza, sliced it up through the slices all over the room and set up a system so that we can never put the slices back together in a way where everything fits. And I think that's what CERN is enforcing. But I could be wrong. Ah, you're driving me up the wall.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Listen, all right, so first of all, joy in the journey. 100% agree with that. I, and just for a practical example of that, building media, building content for me is the joy of the journey. I don't ever want to arrive as the podcaster because I have too much fun building. It's the journey that I enjoy. If I ever get to the point where I arrived, you're going to see me starting a brand new project, which I am.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I'm starting a brand new project. So take it as much you want. But I like keeping my hands busy. What are you going to say? I'm sorry. Well, no, no, I apologize. To your point, I'll use myself as an example. Back in 2012, when the iPhone 5 came out, I was one of the.
Starting point is 00:43:28 people in line at the Apple store and, you know, Toronto, Canada, really excited. And then when I got it, and I'm sure this doesn't apply to everybody, but when I, when I got the product, it was, you know, it was great and everything. But here's what's interesting. Reflecting on that, doing a lot of inward reflecting like yourself, I found looking back, and I only realized this about myself recently, I was because of how strong and avid the marketing was for the phone, I was propping up in my own mind justification for why I bought it saying, no, Dave, this is good. No, this is good. Meanwhile, I was more excited in the line when I didn't have the phone compared to when I picked it up. Yep. I feel the same way. Like, like, and I, I, that's, I'm same,
Starting point is 00:44:10 the same way with technology. Like, for instance, uh, recently we ordered a new computer for the company, uh, with the films we're doing. Uh, we needed something very powerful to do the 4K and be able to really expedite the process of exporting and all that stuff. So, uh, but because it's such a powerful computer, we're waiting two and a half, three months for it to arrive. The anticipation of this super computer is what I've dubbed it is so exciting. But I know for a fact, once I get it here, I'm going to pull it out of the box, plop it on table, and just start using it like I use anything else. Like, there's nothing, there's nothing exciting about it once you get it. And so, but you'll wake up, you'll probably wake up the next morning and then, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:52 have your coffee, what, your breakfast, look at the computer and go, and not in a bad way, or maybe not even in a good way either. I waited three months for this. Yeah. Well, I, in all honestly, I, it's not even for me. I waited three months for it to, for my guys, because, like, like, I, the computer I'm using right now is perfectly fine for what I do podcasting, but when we're doing films, it's a whole other game. And so this thing is going to be, it, it's, it's going to be great for the guys using it. Like, I'll be using it, but like, they're, they're going to be using it the way it's supposed to be used. So it's more of like a gift to my guys. But so like to this, this idea here, though, with the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I'm the, I, like, I, like, I, it's all the, I, like, I, I, like, I've mentioned this several times. I, I, like, I've mentioned this several times. I, like, I'm starting a brand new podcast, um, working on the logistics of how we're going to actually form it and everything. I think it's going to be a seasonal type show. But, um, I came across a story that is literally, literally, um,
Starting point is 00:45:57 take it like i feel like i found the centerpiece of this puzzle that all this other stuff plugs into and it's absolutely crazy but it's all connected and um i would say i want to say this too uh so i where i live in uh Tennessee uh right outside knoxville i'm not far from a place in Tennessee called oakridge which is a particle accelerator just like serrne on a smaller level um and i've run into people who work there. In fact, somebody that works there in a very high position there lives in my neighborhood. I've met people who work there. I'd be careful because I don't know how much he wants me to say, because he's probably
Starting point is 00:46:43 going to come on the show at some point. He's a friend of mine now. But let's just put it this way. He was hired to be a sniper at Oak Ridge. And I said, what are you sniping? And he's like, things that come out of portals. And I thought he was kidding. I thought he was kidding until I talked to him this past weekend at a birthday party that we met up at again.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And he's like, no, I was serious. I was like, what do you know who you're talking to, man? Like, you're killing me, but, um, this speaks. Can I just say very quickly, Tony, this speaks to the concept of split realities with respects to, again, when people say, oh, realities are splitting. Well, everyone's like, well, I don't get it. It's supposed to be something, you know, coming from the sky, splitting us up or whatever. We're seeing it in motion right now.
Starting point is 00:47:23 People talk about Project Blue Beam. I think we're experiencing Project Blue Beam, if you want by honest opinion. This speaks to that. Yeah. Can you tell people real quick what Project Blue Beam is just in case they haven't heard of it? Because I know this whole show spawned by somebody who didn't know what CERN was. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And again, Mr. Alvarez, I think. Not trying to laugh at you, sir. No, not at all. Sorry, forgive me. What was? Oh, Blue Beam. Well, first off, the Project Blue Book was something started by the Air Force shortly after World War too, which was to investigate, you know, the UFO and all this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And they said they found nothing. Don't worry about it. They shut it down. Yada yada. I'm, we're going to, that's a whole other freaking conversation. Yeah, they shut down MK. Ultra too. They shut down M.K.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Ultra too, right? Yeah. Yeah. You know what M.K. Ultra is now called life. Exactly. Yeah. You don't need a project name.
Starting point is 00:48:14 It is the, it is the project. Right. Project of Life. Right. So Bluebeam, for example, the reason it was called that is I understand that. could be wrong, but it was that people always saw blue beams emitting from the craft when they abducted cattle or, you know, people or this or that, whatever. And the project blue book, excuse me, was an Air Force investigation. And then over the years there was this, you could say, rumor, scuttlebutt, as they call it, you know, talk about something called Project Blue Beam, which was emitting a holographic, a simulation or emulation of a bunch of craft or even Jesus, the Second Coming of Christ, or something like this, entering the planet. And in order to, in order to, in order for, for the military industrial complex to justify a fear-based narrative to limit the rights of the people.
Starting point is 00:49:00 That's generally the gist of it, as I understand it. Please tell me, Tony, if I missed anything. But that's, as I understand it, that's, that's blue beam. That's the speculation of it. People say, you know, again, do we, Dave, do you rule that out? Here's the thing. There's an academic paper by Gere-Rivier, a PhD, called Holographic, Morph. morphogenetics structuring of our 12-strand DNA.
Starting point is 00:49:28 In pure theory, and I don't mean to be a smart ass here, in pure theory, just like the CIA documents, which we can debate on if it's accurate or not, we're living in a hologram that then provides, again, bioreceptive feedback to our nervous system that then tells our brain in a neural sense from an electrical electromagnetic pulsation perspective that what I'm holding is physical, what I'm touching, you know, where I am right now is all that there is. So in theory, that's why I say we're living in Bluebeam. I would dare to argue that we're living in a holographic substrate type reality. Now, I could be very wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Let me be clear. But when I look at some of the, like, okay, I'll bring up one last thing. I brought this up on the Twitter spaces last night as well. When we look for people talk about, oh, you know, human DNA manipulation and alteration, oh, people that dismiss it and say it's nonsense. Well, let me ask you this. Not to you, Tony, because I'm sure you'd agree with me here. but GMOs, genetically modified foods, for example, that's being, that's not a conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:50:26 That's a known thing. You know, you go to farmers, they know all this. Why would that, let's just scale that up in a fractals, right? Let's macro, micro, let's scale that up. Why would or could that not have been applied in a classified program underground, literally or metaphorically or both, to attempt to be done on humans? I mean, you have, for example, someone by the name of Michael Levin, recently, he's the guy with the, xenobots and all of that, or the xenophrogs or that kind of stuff, he talks about how it's of his understanding, there seems to be from at least an electrical perspective, some type of underlying blueprint to our reality that seems to understand archetypally. This speaks even to the
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yungian archetypes that there's a face, there has to be a bipedal formation, which is why Sasquatch is bipedal, humanoid, two arms, two legs, gray aliens are bipedal. It's sort of like when you enter a video game, isn't it? You have to conform to the code of that video game. You can't take a call of duty player and throw them into Grand Theft Auto. It's not going to work. You need to conform to the code of Grand Theft Auto. So that's where I go there. Wow. All right, friends, for our last sponsor today, we have Hello Fresh. With Hello Fresh, you get Fresh Farm, pre-portioned ingredients, and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstep. You can skip the grocery store and count on Hello Fresh to make home cooking easy, fun, and
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Starting point is 00:53:42 but Project Blue Beam is becoming life. I think it's, we are, we are seeing signs of them playing with it. And I think that they are trying to maybe condition, the people, I don't know, but like we saw, I think it was a year or two ago, AOC, they projected AOC above the Capitol building, and it was an image of her crying at the border wall. And so like that, that kind of screams that to me, but on a more conspiratorial level, I, I had this idea and thought. So as somebody who is a Christian and comes from that theological foundation, and being growing up as not only just an evangelical Christian, but a Pentecostal Christian,
Starting point is 00:54:36 like there's different denominations. And so like I personally view myself theologically as a hybrid. I'm more reformed in certain areas, more Pentecostal and others. Anyway, you're not here for that. Anyways, to get to my point, I started thinking about this idea of, in the Bible, it says, how when Christ comes back, every knee will bow, every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. And thinking about the logistical nightmare of that, you know, on a global scale. And I started thinking things about like how, you know, okay, well, we have the internet today. So it could be pretty instantaneous.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Like, I mean, we just had, if people don't know, we just, like yesterday, the Congo and UN had interaction. And there's these Congonian people probably about a dozen standing out of town gate and the UN vehicles were on the other side and they were protesting. And all of a sudden, the UN just lit them up and fired at them and killed, killed. They officially say two people. I'm seeing reports of around 10 or more people dead, but I saw pictures of like a 7 to 8 year old with a bullet hole on his side. And so like the UN peacekeepers lit up these civilians. And That was instantaneous. It happened immediately.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Like we, like, at least I saw it with the sources I'm tuned in on. You're not going to hear about it on Fox News or CNN, I'm sure. But so I was like, okay, so the logistics of it may be that. But then how do you get around the idea of, of this, this, what would be called a rapture where Christ comes and he takes his people with him, right? This resurrection and all that. And I started thinking about Project Bluebeam and how. we already have a functioning arm of the government called the media, and that's filled with
Starting point is 00:56:23 propaganda. And people, it's to the point that people are, they know they're being brainwashed, and they still accept it. They still, they still understand. This speaks to, forgive me for cutting you off, this speaks to even what we were saying just, just under an hour ago at the beginning regarding even in academia. You're a physicist, stay in your lane F you. It gets that emotional rile up. Yeah. Right. So I mean, that's what CNN, Chris, Cuomo said years ago when the WikiLeaks were happening and stuff, he said to the audience, he said, this isn't safe for you to read, it's safe for us to read, we'll read it and we'll tell you what's in it. That's what he said on air. And so it goes to that idea that it's like stay in
Starting point is 00:57:00 your lane, and I don't do good with that. So anyways, so I started thinking about that. And I started thinking, you know what? I could see this actually happening where it's a merger of propaganda and technology to pull this off where Christ doesn't come back. So, like, actually, you know what, let's actually reverse this. There's different ways to think about it. So let's just say Christ does come back. And there's this, this rapture, this, this taking of the people of the Christian faith. And the day after, let's call it the day after, then you have an entire world left to explain what just happened.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And we see this whole push with the, with the acknowledgement of UFOs and the possible of extraterrestrial. life form or interdimensionalism. Like, I literally could see them saying that that wasn't Jesus Christ. That was actually an extraterrestrial that came and took all the bigot Christian racist people from this earth. And now we can ascend humanity to another level through transhumanism. Like, I got something. I got a question.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I got a question you can ask your DOE guy if he agrees to ever come on the show. I was looking at, and this speaks to what you just said here, I was looking at a 2016, this is public information, anyone can look this up, Congressional Appropriations Budget for the Department of Energy for fiscal year 2016. And one of the, and this is one of those things where you look at, it's like many pages, 70 something pages, and it's obviously one of those packages that Congress just signs off on, which again, speaks to the, the, they say not deliberate, but I think low-key, deliberate disconnect between policymakers and the intelligence world. But anyway, that's a different conversation.
Starting point is 00:58:51 But because, yeah, if you get leverage on these politicians and anyways, you control them the whole thing. But the point is, is that one of those, on that list of the appropriations budget, fiscal year 2016 was event cloning at exa scale. What does that mean? Here's the thing. when classified projects or programs are disseminated into an appropriations budget to be able to be signed off on by policymakers, it's almost as if they're keeping it vague because of how much it encompasses, isn't it? You see what I'm saying? Event cloning at eggs of scale.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Now, there's one other thing as well that I found quite interesting, which is that pertaining to the concept of consciousness, I'll be the first one to tell you I don't claim to know what it is or what it's made up of or I'm not going to sit here and be like, I know what consciousness is. No. But I've been pondering an idea from a paranormal perspective that I think you and your audience will resonate and appreciate, which is imagine. Okay, so we know, for example, that when you have a hacker that penetrates, say, for example, say a hacker is trying to hack into the CIA server, what the CIA will
Starting point is 01:00:02 allegedly do, I got to say allegedly, but what the CIA will allegedly do is for counterintelligence purposes, they won't kick the hacker out of the server. That's probably the dumbest thing you could do. Why? Because you want to see what they're looking for because then that will tell you their interests and who they're reporting back to and all of this. They'll transfer the hacker in real time without the hacker knowing or realizing from the server to a bullshit server with BS info and let them dig around for as long as they want.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Hold on a second. Could that be done with consciousness? Wow. Wow. I don't see why not. I don't see why not. Well, and then correlate that with the appropriations budget, data-driven information, not just pulling this out of my ass with event DOE, event cloning at exoscale.
Starting point is 01:00:52 What the heck does that mean? Could that have anything to do with potentially CERN and the correlation between the overlapping of Mandela effect experiences? I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just asking the question. I mean, and I'm not trying to be that type of person that, deliberately, you know, stirs the pot and goes.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I'm just asking questions. I'm not trying to be that guy. I look at that. I'm going to call a spade of spade here, brother, for you and your audience. But I look at that and I say, well, it hasn't been disproven, but it hasn't been proven either. So that's something that I personally, we explore this on our, on our Patreon as well. This is something as well. We leave it on the table until there's enough data to take it off.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yeah. And I think that's, maybe there never will be. Who knows? I mean, in all honestly, I hope not because if everything's taken on the table, I'm not out of a job. You know what scares me, actually, believe it or not, the concept that there are certain people in the world that think and believe that, and I'm not trying to, I'm just talking even about the average person, that all they know is they feel anyone ever needs to know.
Starting point is 01:02:00 That's what scares me. What scares me is not the unknown. What scares me is the known, knowing that you're going to wake up the next day and do the same thing over and over again. That's what scares me. For me, the exploration side of it is the fun part. Yes. You see what I'm saying? Dude, I'm the same way.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Like, in such a real sense. And I'm going to steer this back to Oak Ridge here in a second. But I want to comment on that. I can't tell you, and maybe not everybody feels this way, because I really do think that there are some people who are just, you know, like this is where my life landed. I'm happy here and I'm fine doing. But for me, especially as an extroverted person who always had a deep sense of, hey, I want to kind of be an impactful person in this world. Driving a tractor trailer for 12 to 14 hours a day alone in my truck was not fulfilling. And knowing every day I was going to wake up before my family
Starting point is 01:02:57 woke up, go to work, drive alone all day long, come home when my family's in bed sleeping already and not having a communication or contact with my family or the people in this world was not an option for me. Something is taking the joy, to your point, something's taking the joy away from the journey. Yes. Something's moving it. Like, exactly. Like, the joy was way gone.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And I honestly, I can't, I can't express to the audience how grateful I am to be given a platform with a podcast where I feel like my life's goal, my, my, my, my, my inward motivations of my life have been fulfilled and are being fulfilled through these platforms and the podcasting and filmmaking like like i can't express how dead i was before i started podcasting i was a and i also say too i want to thank you tony and i'm not trying to kiss your ass because i'm on your show but in in the sense of the same way somebody drops a rock into a pond and it ripples this ripple effect could be done in a positive manner so i want to thank you and i want to thank your audience man because unfortunately in the next minute or two, I got to get going.
Starting point is 01:04:04 But I want to thank you and your audience for not just you, Tony, for your audience being able to take the time to not just, of course, support Tony here, but to be able to listen to what Tony is providing genuinely. That's that, in my opinion, that's the value. That's worth more than any financial currency of any kind. So thank you. So, all right, let me just say this quick story and then we'll get you out of here. Oak Ridge being,
Starting point is 01:04:31 Oak Ridge is where they designed the nuclear bomb that was used in World War II. And the guy I bought my cow off of, yes, I have a cow, but not a live cow, a dead cow. I was hungry. And it's in their freezer now. But the guy I bought the cow off of, I was talking about what I do. And he said growing up around here,
Starting point is 01:04:49 talking to old timers, that they, when they were building Oak Ridge, they were seeing a lot of these white, bigfoot creatures in this area. And it kind of goes to what you were talking about with the big foot and these creatures being seen in these military areas. In Pennsylvania, where I came from, all across Pennsylvania, north, Pennsylvania, east to west, into Ohio, a white bigfoot was being seen. And I strongly believe that there is a deep underground military base in the Allegheny National Forest of Pennsylvania. And so it kind of goes to this whole idea of this, at least Bigfoot, if not white Bigfoot, being possibly not just a natural creature, but something that was brought. in by these organizations, maybe as some kind of physical slash spiritual guardian to these
Starting point is 01:05:35 stargates or whatever. Do you want me to add to, if I can further that very quickly? If you got time, I'm fine. Sure. Yeah, I got like a minute, mid and a half, then I got a jet. But I will say in a very respectful manner, this is something that on Patreon.com slash generations that we pursue often. And for those that say, well, what do you, you know, how do you get around the censorship on
Starting point is 01:05:57 Patreon, we use currently Dropbox shareable links until I'm able to save up enough for a website and all of this kind of stuff. But the point is, we've been exploring this concept or idea of when you look, for example, at the NASCAR lines, not the lay lines, the NASCAR lines, the NASCAR lines are identical to the Orion constellation. Not only that, but they're also identical to the alleged deep underground military base map of North America. They lock in over top each other. And not only that, but they're also
Starting point is 01:06:31 allegedly identical. And I say, I could, I say this very carefully because this is when it starts to get a little iffy, but identical to the, the Nazi death camps. And that would speak to Operation Paperclip, how, you know, the Soviets got the telekinesis and the parapsychology and the extrasensory perception guys. The Americans got the materials and propulsion knowledge, science-based guys.
Starting point is 01:06:56 or von Braun, Herman Oberth, that, all of that. But what I find quite peculiar is they all lock in, almost as if there's some type of esoteric, non-physical entity that is entities maybe that are using physical tools like CERN to continue some type of operation. For better or worse, it's not for me to say, I don't know. But to your point. And Bigfoot, Sasquatch, all over the place. I have my own theories on that too, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. All right. So, all right. Last question. Are we living in Stranger Things? How real is Stranger Things? My humble opinion. And again, we go into this very extensively on Patreon.com slash Generation Zed.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I think Stranger Things is a scaled back version. Yes. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. I was just live on Instagram today before you and I recorded it. I was in the drive-thru at Chick-fil-A. God bless Chick-fil-A. And I was telling people that very thing.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I was telling them, listen, you watch Stranger Things, that's normal compared to what we actually are in right now. Like, the world we live in right now is far more strange than what they're portraying. The quote-unquote normal world is the conspiracy. Yes. You're speaking my love language right now. I love it. Listen, I know you got to go tell the people where they can find you again so they can fall in
Starting point is 01:08:25 love with you and the show. Thank you so much, man. Because of some of the stuff that we touch on content wise, I can be found at Generation Zed podcast, ZED podcast at Apple Podcasts, a pod bean, Spotify, and of course, YouTube. And more specifically, we go much, much more deeper into all of this on Patreon.com slash GenerationZad. We do not only from a content perspective, we have a unique series. We bring in people esoteric based, nuts and bolts based, philosophical based, archetypaly based, paranormal, you know, Bigfoot, all of this stuff. We do our best to bring in every piece of that metaphorical pie astrology, all of this. But we also do two to four times per week group Zoom calls where we basically just do what we're doing now and just sort of like a, you know, open
Starting point is 01:09:17 forum think tank. There's a lot of stuff on there that I will never put on the YouTube. So we have three different packages for eight 12 bucks a month get you see stuff you know days sometimes weeks before they go public as well when when they do go public and again patreon dot com slash generation zed and i truly tony from the bottom of my heart man i can't thank you enough thank you so much absolutely man i appreciate you coming on the show and sharing some knowledge with the people uh hopefully this uh educated some of the people as to what seren is they probably have a lot more questions now but uh we can save for another time Listen, man, I appreciate you being here.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Thank you so much, man. Well, that's sure, but I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share the show. Just share the show if you enjoyed it because that's the best thing you can do to help the show grow. Share the show. And also, if you want, go ahead and leave that five-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts, if you so choose or your podcast playing app of choice.
Starting point is 01:10:21 That helps as well, but not as much as you just sharing the show. and we greatly appreciate that. Friends, all right, before we get out of here, I want to share with you a story that I was going to share on this recording, but then I could remember what I wanted to say. It happens a lot, actually. There's a lot of times where we're doing an interview, we're talking to somebody. They're rolling and I'm just keeping my mouth shut and letting them do their thing. And when it's my turn to talk, I'm like, what was I going to say? It was really good. Well, that happened on this. And so I didn't say it, but I'm going to say it now because I remember. And so what I was going to talk about was this idea of SERN and altering the reality that we live in and how that could possibly play out and look like. And I had just heard a story this past week and I wanted to share it with you guys. And I was going to ask him if he thought that could relate to CERN, but he's not here right now. So I'll just share the story with you. And you guys can let me know in the comments section on Instagram of this show art, what you think this could be.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Is it SIRM related or something totally different? What are your thoughts? I heard a story this past week about a guy who checked into work. He went into work. He works at a juvenile detention facility. And when he got to work on a normal night, he gets in there and his boss looks at him kind of funny and says, why are you here? And he said, well, I've got to work today.
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's my shift. I'm here. And the boss says, well, you just called out sick. earlier today saying you weren't feeling good because of, I guess, you had to clean up something from the storm. And I guess they had a storm the night before. And he called out sick saying that he was not feeling well from whatever happened during the storm. And so he looked at his boss kind of strange and he said, well, I didn't call out sick. You must be confusing me with somebody else that, you know, called out sick today. So he goes on his way and he does a shift and I guess some weird
Starting point is 01:12:23 things happened during the shift. And on his, I guess he was in his break, he was either on his break in the break room or I think maybe he was in the control room, he said, where I guess they control all the doors in the prison and things like that. And his boss comes in, the shift manager, sits down with him and starts talking about how this situation where he called out sick and now he's here working. And they were kind of hashing it out. And they both agreed it. It was very strange. like his boss is like, no, you called and said you weren't coming and now you're here and you say, you don't remember doing that. I'm a little concerned for you. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, you're in charge of these doors with these inmates. So I'm a little concerned that you're saying,
Starting point is 01:13:05 you don't remember calling in sick. And so they were talking to back and forth. And he's like, let's just put this to bed. And I'm going to call my wife. And she's going to tell you, I'm not sick. And I never called in sick. And so he calls his wife and it rings once. It rings twice. And then the phone picks up. And there's a man on the other side. It says, hello, in like a raspy voice. And he's kind of taken back and he looks at the phone. He looks at his boss and his boss is like, yo, bro, you just stumbled into something that you shouldn't have. You found your wife's a little dirty secret. And he's just like, you know, a million thoughts are running through his head and he's trying to come up with words of, you know, this is my, he looks at his phone. Yep, this is my wife's
Starting point is 01:13:49 number, who is this, you know? And he asked for his wife and the guy said, she's in bed sleeping. Who is this? And he's like, freaking out. He doesn't know what to say. He doesn't know what to do. He's pissed off because there's a man on his wife's phone. Why is there a man at his house to begin with? And what is this? She's sleeping crap. Like, this is my wife. Who are you? And this guy goes, this is Tyler, her husband. Who are you? And the guy I'm telling this story from, his name's Tyler. And so he's like, there's something crazy going on here. I don't know what's going on, but I'm going home and I'm getting to the bottom of this and how my wife has another man pertaining to me at my house right now. And he closes up shop, he leaves his shift, he goes home and he drops his phone. And when he dropped his phone, and when he dropped his phone, phone, his boss picked it up and he heard his boss pick up the phone and, I guess, said something to the guy or the guy said something to him. And his boss is like, oh, my God. And he just, Tyler just keeps running.
Starting point is 01:15:02 He goes home. And he flies home, gets there. And he kind of goes barging through the door. And his wife sitting there on the couch watching TV. And it's like, oh, you're home. What's up? And he's like, what do you mean? What's up? Where's the dude? dude, like, I thought you were supposed to be sleeping. And, you know, totally confused. And she is totally confused. He talks to her about what happened. She's baffled.
Starting point is 01:15:30 He's baffled. And so after a little bit, things settled down. He's like, uh, okay. He goes back to work. And so when he gets back to work, his boss is there, gets his phone. And his boss says that he talked to the guy on the other end of the line when he dropped the phone and he said the guy sounded just like Tyler. And so Tyler has no idea what's going on here.
Starting point is 01:16:03 All he knows is that this guy supposedly earlier in the day called him out sick from work because of the storm they had the previous night and how he was cleaning something up and got sick and couldn't be in anymore. Tyler shows up. Boss is confused. And so when Tyler calls his wife, this guy answers the phone, the guy that called him out sick and sounds like a raspy type of person, a voice. Like maybe he was sick. And then when the boss talks to him, it sounds just like Tyler, but he just saw Tyler leave. So the boss. The boss, he just saw Tyler leave. So the boss is like, yo, how are you doing this?
Starting point is 01:16:50 Like what kind of game and prank is this? Tyler's like, this is no prank. I have no idea what's going on. So it's kind of a weird, glitchy kind of story. That's all I know of the story. I don't know whatever came of it, if anything else ever happened. But what I do notice is that
Starting point is 01:17:07 there is this idea of a storm and then the glitch happened after the storm. And what I wanted to ask Dave, was had he ever heard of storms popping up around these particle accelerators, and do they possibly have an extension of a portal, or are they the force of a portal that could alter reality as we know it in its present time? Because to be honest with you, living not far from Oak Ridge, we've been having some weird storms around here recently. If you look at the Instagram account for the confessionals.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I think I posted it on there. If I didn't post it on there, I posted on my personal Instagram account, Tony Merkel official. It's one of those two. I posted a video of me and Alex from the other week, the Bigfoot Hunter,
Starting point is 01:17:58 outside at midnight. And there's this lightning storm going on. It was kind of weird. It got weirder as the night went on. People who lived closer to Oak Ridge reported crazy storms, crazy storms. Like the one.
Starting point is 01:18:15 guy that lived in the area reported, and this is on his Facebook page, we're friends. I met him when I moved down here. But he has a separate building from his house that he works out of. He has his own business. And he was scared to go back in his house because of how strong this storm was. And I just had that birthday party I went to that I mentioned on this episode. I believe I mentioned it on this episode. I don't remember now. But I was just at a birthday party this past weekend. and I was talking to people who've been living around here for a long time, and they all were saying that recently they've been having storms that are just totally, like, uncharacteristic for this area.
Starting point is 01:18:56 And as somebody who's not from this area, I have no gauge. I have no idea. But they say that this is an, this is, these storms are absolutely totally out of character. And they've been popping up since CERN fired up. And I'm wondering, is there some kind of. of connection that CERN has with Oak Ridge, and if that's, if it's true, if it's true, I don't know if it's true, but I'm just theorizing, thinking out loud, if there's some kind of quantum, we talked about quantum stuff on this show, if there's some kind of quantum connection between
Starting point is 01:19:28 CERN and Oak Ridge, those aren't the two only particle accelerators in this country, in this world. And China's right now planning on building a particle accelerator that is bigger than CERN, which CERN is 17 miles in diameter. So what does that mean? You know, so I started thinking about, are these things connected and are the storms a result of maybe CERN powering up and being connected to Oak Ridge? And I could tell you guys some stories about Oak Ridge. But that said, it just makes me wonder, are these weird matrixy glitches that people have
Starting point is 01:20:05 experiences with a result of what we're doing with these particle accelerators, whether it's Oak Ridge or CERN or the one that's going to be. in China or wherever else they are. It makes you wonder, do they have the ability to alter reality in that sense? I would guess yes. If we're going down this bizarro rabbit hole, I would guess yes. But I will just say this, these places are far more strange and reality altering for you personally then you can fathom.
Starting point is 01:20:44 If you came to the true understanding of what these places are doing and how they operate and what they got going on, you will literally think that the TV show Stranger Things is a cakewalk. And recently people have been criticizing me for talking so much about portals and how, oh, Merkel thinks that the upside down is real. You heard Dave say it on the show, and I agreed with him. Stranger Things is actually reality light.
Starting point is 01:21:21 It's far stranger than what you're seeing on Stranger Things. And I can prove it. And I'm going to do that moving forward into the future. I've talked about it several times. I'm going to be starting a new podcast where I'm going to focus on a story that fell into my lap that really has blown my mind and has so much information tied into it that I cannot possibly make it part of the confessionals. It's that big. It has to be its own entity. And when I come out with this podcast, you're going to start seeing, start seeing what I know and why I say certain
Starting point is 01:21:59 things so matter-of-factly. You guys have to really remember and understand the history we've built together. We've been together for five years, and in five years, I've told you over and over again, I've never seen Bigfoot. I've never had a dogman encounter. I don't tell you if I've had experiences if I didn't have those experiences. I've never been in the business of BSing my audience at all. So when I say that I know something, as far as I know it to be true, I'm telling you factual information. And so when I go online, whether it's my show or social media, and I say that portals are real and things are coming through, when I say that when you watch stranger things, that's far more real than you are comfortable with.
Starting point is 01:22:49 It's not because I'm a child living in La La Land wanting to believe what I see on TV is true. If that was the case, that would have come out years ago because I would have been saying that about everything that tickles my fancy. The reality is, I've come across information, real information, that 99.9% of the listening audience has never come across. And I plan on presenting it to you through a new podcast that I'm working on right now in development. So, with that said, I hope you guys enjoyed this little extra 15-minute segment here at the
Starting point is 01:23:24 end of the show, kind of took some twists and turns, but I just kind of wanted to talk with you guys one-on-one. I hope you guys have a great week moving forward. Until next week, stay safe, take care, and remember the truth will set you free. But first, they'll piss you off. And it's been pissing a lot of people off recently. Bye. I'm talking to joy, thy rival, the nickel of no order particular.
Starting point is 01:24:34 We know the crack gone south. So if it's a very but don't work well, was the handworm rigging, was a cartel, push a bar, do I rap? Do I sing? Do I preach? I don't know. Do I lack anything be a love? No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:24:43 But we got to be a warrior too. Because that's just what warriors do. Can't throw me without you get a Intentiousness on your son's due They know you spit in that man Akata Yeah I'm talking saucy All they want to build is a prison world Full up at Tomoguchi's
Starting point is 01:25:56 Like me kamikaze Got me out of body Like him Goku SS3 They want to push me to the center Like I suddenly want to spin up But the center of the center of the next is me

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