The Confessionals - 474: Rise Of The Nephilim

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

In Episode 474: Rise of the Nephilim, we are joined by Joel and Sean from Operation Kill The Mockingbirds to discuss Joel's working theory on why people are being abducted, and how the Fallen Angels are creating a Nephilim hybrid army for a final epic battle of the gods! Joel has been featured on two other podcasts to discuss these topics, and every time, the host's podcast equipment has glitched and stopped working. I told Joel we would test these glitch occurrences in my studio to determine if they were happening due to recording remotely through the internet. I believed nothing would happen during our in-studio recording - but I was wrong. Things did happen, and our interview left me needing to purchase a new mixer board following Joel’s visit! The rise of the Nephilim seems to be a hot topic for the fallen ones, and perhaps they don't want us talking about it. So, of course, we are going to talk about it much more!Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSPONSORSGET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tonyGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaITikTok: @theconfessionalsDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - 30 Hours To Utah:YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RsKz1qSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3CS69IAApple Music: https://apple.co/3RAWgTXKill The Mockingbirds:Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3elEYeUSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3AKNGeh

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Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. I feel something pulling at my leg and I look over and there are two small gray entities pulling it and they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air. And I touch air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Yeah.

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So I said Kill the Mocking Birds, but that's actually a podcast. So let me just clarify that to everybody, right? Now, guys, you're here because we just got done recording last night for your podcast and the quick hitter. By the time people hear this, they'll already know what the quick hitter is and all that stuff because this isn't going to air before that. But I wanted to do a sit-down interview with you guys and just kind of chat and talk it up and stuff.

Joel's been slapping some heaters up on the Instagram reels recently and pushing people's buttons. And so we figured, you know, let's do a recording for, listen, I mean, they came down to Tennessee. You guys came down here. Yeah. And you're in studio with me. You're not going to come in my studio, record for your show and not record for my show. Like, what do you think this is?

It's just free giveaways, you know? Like, you got to give me something, too. So we figured we would sit down and hammer out another recording for the confessionals audience. Before we get too far into it and off track and stuff, I just want you guys to give yourself. with proper introductions. I suck at that stuff. Like, if you ever tune into a podcast and you're like, today's guest is so-and-so, five minutes later, they just gave the whole thing and it's just like beautiful.

Like, you know who does that really well? Greg Carlewood over at Higher Side Chats. He does a great job of introducing his guests very professionally. I'm just like, today we got, we have Bill Gates on the show today. Bill, tell people who you are. I'm like, I don't know what to say. Like, it's Joel. I mean, what you want me to say?

So we'll start with you, Joel. tell people who you are if they don't know already and where they can find you. Yeah, I'm Joel Thomas. I'm one half of the group, Van Tesla. If you don't know that already, I'm shocked. I've had the outro music forever on there. And I'm also part of Merkel Media with Tony, the documentary end of it. We go down and hunt cryptids and weird stuff,

and we've got a crazy documentary coming out this fall, which is going to be mind-blowing. Yeah. So you can find me, though. at Linktree Van Tesla Music. And that Van Tesla music is pretty much everywhere. YouTube, you can just type in Van Tesla Music, Instagram, Van Tesla Music. I've got a lot of cool stuff on Instagram.

So I put out a lot of really cool videos about cryptids, about the paranormal, about government stuff. In addition to the music. So you get access to everything there. That's probably the best place to find me. So, yeah. Awesome, man. What about you? I'm Sean Chris.

one half of the host of Kill the Mockingbirds. Also, you can find my music on Apple, Spotify, et cetera, et cetera. Me and Joel both run Kill the Mockingbirds together. And we're going forward to kind of breaking people's minds and trying to not get nuked as much. Yeah, yeah, I have a feeling you're going to be getting nuked. That's what we got back. Yeah, you got backup accounts to the backup account to the backup account, you know.

It's just like, let's just make sure, you know, they think they can ban me. They will not. Like, you know how Twitter, like the whole bot thing they're talking about and stuff? And they're just like, you know, apparently there's a lot of bots. And some people are suggesting that maybe of the reported usership of Twitter, of real people, there's a possibility that could be as low as 20%, which is crazy to think about it.

I don't think that's accurate, right? But with Instagram, if they ever did a checkup on that, they would see that at least half of the accounts are Sean Chris in his backup accounts. So I think he's in cahoots with Twitter. But so, you know, we had a good time talking on your podcast. What was in Merkel Unleashed, right? Merkel uncut. Uncut. That's right. We did set you off the leash, though.

Yeah. Yeah. I went home to my wife and I said to where I said, expect grumpy emails and people saying that they're never listening to my show again because I expressed my opinion that is different from theirs. Right. And it's just like, how dare you? So I'm just like, let's dare you. I mean, at the end of the day and stuff, like I said it on your show and stuff, like, there are certain things that as I've gotten older, I have my family, I have my kids.

I don't waver on certain things. And I just, I am what I am. Yeah. And if, yeah. Listen, people want it here and stuff. Go ahead and check it out. I'm not going to even, we're not going to go down that road here because we already did it on your show. So go check it out.

He chewed the leash off and then like tore the yard up. For three hours. For three hours. Our hundredth episode, he let it all out. So it's fantastic. Yeah, episode 100 is pretty easy to remember. Episode 100 of Kill the Mocking Birds. Bird Killers is what I call them.

So we have a text thread. And it's called bird killers. So I do that with a lot of guys when I shorten the names and stuff. I did that with, well, I think the blurry creature guys, with their art text group with them is called blurry confessions. Oh, that's great. The belief hole is, what is it? I forget. I forget.

But like, I just kind of shorten it up, you know. The Holsky podcast is the Haliskeye Boys, things like that. So I should change that one to Holoski. I jacked up their name in the beginning and stuff. And every chance I get, I call them Holoski. I feel like, I can't find the Holoski podcast. Like, it's out there. Just keep looking.

But so, listen, Joel, you were on the show for episode 331, and you kind of shared a lot of personal experiences on that show where you come from in life. I've gotten a lot of emails over the years from that show saying, I need to be careful because you're another cover Satanist and you're trying to infiltrate the confessions. And so if you are, you've done a really good job. Oh, Sean gets it too, though. He gets them too.

It's crazy. They think I'm controlled opposition. That's what they come and ask. It's pretty funny. I think I just, I try to put everything out on the table, though, because I don't want to be one of those people that, you know, as things progress, that they find out and say, like, just got's a free mason. Like, well, like, sort of.

Like, technically on paper. yes. Yeah, I mean, but there's a time period where, you know, I broke away from all that too. And if people want to hear that, they can obviously go back to that. Yeah. My favorite was somebody emailed. I forget, it was a long time ago, and they said about you, they're going off about something. I forget how they said it, but they suggested that they think it's safer for me to have

10 satanic witches on the show over having a Freemason like you on the show. I'm just saying if he has all those perks Where are they at for us? Yeah, I know. Like, I made, like, I made friends to get those perks. Where are they at, bro? I want to know where those perks are at. I didn't get any of them either.

And people are like, well, well, obviously, you know, you're making all that money through them and stuff, but you can't, like, show it because then it's obvious and stuff. So it's like, so you have money, but you can't use it. That's a great deal. Yeah. That's a great deal. Right.

Makes no sense. Yeah. So we're going to kind of go into some different topics and stuff today. You've been, like I said, hitting the Instagram up a lot. Yeah. And you've been kind of going on all over these topics. So like anybody who kind of knows anything about you, you're very much. I feel like I hate saying it like this because I think it's almost like a, it's almost degrading anymore.

But you do a lot of conspiratorial. stuff, you know, like maybe things that aren't talked about a lot to things that maybe are outside the box, new perspectives of thinking about things. You make these little Reels, Instagram Reels about it. And you've been hitting hard. Like, I remember, maybe it's like two months ago, maybe three months ago. I don't know. Sometimes this year, I remember I was on your Instagram and I was like, oh, man, that's good. I remember where you were before and you're like at 700, 800 followers and stuff. I was like, that's good. But like this dude, like he's, his music. And I'm thinking musically, I'm like, he needs.

have a lot more followers than that. Like, it's way too good, right? And then your reel started hitting. And now you're, what, pushing 3,000? You're over 3,000 now. And I'm just like, man, like, some of your reels are hitting, like, what's it, half a million? More than half a million news.

Ain't going. Yeah. And just skyrocketing. So we're going to kind of talk about some of the things you've been hitting on those reels and stuff. And, Sean, you have some shadow man type. Would you say shadow people, shadow woman, shadow man? What was it that you saw?

Shadow man. Shadow man. Are you sure? I've seen it very descriptive. Okay, okay, all right. We just want to make it, we'll say that for the other show. But so let's just get the one that I'm not going to agree with you on out of the way. Let's go with the book of Enoch.

You want to go down this road of heresy of saying the book of Enoch wasn't written by Enoch, how dare you? I guess like Stephen Crowder would say, change my mind. good luck. I'm not here to debate with you. Just go ahead and just know he's right. I mean, no, like, I, it doesn't matter. In all honesty, to me, it doesn't matter in the sense of the authorship. For me, the reason why I look at the book of Enoch as something relevant to pay attention to is because New Testament authors did quote Enoch. So that tells me that if the New Testament authors quoted Enoch. They read it. They thought enough of it to actually use it in their descriptive writings in the scripture. Therefore, I think that, you know, I think Enoch is worth paying

attention to, whether it's Enoch or Satan or whoever you say it is, you know, Job or whatever. I forget what is it, Adam and Eve. Enoch, son of Cain. Oh, there we go. There we go. I was trying to give you a Liam. So go ahead. Talk to me about this stuff, man. Like, it's interesting. No, you know, it's crazy because for a long time I thought it was, you know, Enoch who walked so closely with God that, you know, he literally had walked into heaven or walked into another dimension as we would probably describe it now. Um, you know, one of the guys that really kind of set me off on that path was Gary Wayne and freaking Gary Wayne, man. He is an absolute genius though. The Genesis 6 conspiracy

is phenomenal. Um, but it set me on a path. half because, you know, it's not just him because I started listening to some other people and I started going down a lot of rabbit holes and then I started, you know, getting a hold of like some older text and looking into how this correlates because one of the things, and Gary Wayne was the first one to say it, he's like, there are discrepancies in the book of Enoch that don't match up with the Bible. That's why it's not canonical. So one of the big discrepancies is in the book of Enoch, it says that the angels built the ark, but in the Bible, God told Noah to build the ark. That seems like a very fallen angel thing to slide in, right? It seems like that they would really want to take credit

for something that God told Noah to do. Because if you know anything about the fallen angels, a lot of their hatred towards God, it wasn't just the fact, and everybody gets on the whole Lucifer thing that Lucifer wanted to be God. And that that, That was like his whole like motivation. Well, a lot of scholars talk about that part of their motivation was us humans being created because someone got kind of pissed off about that. They were like, well, we thought we were the, yeah, we thought we were the ish. Right, right.

You know, and God does what God wants to do, and he's got his own reasons for that. So, you know, that's kind of what spawned from that. Now, the book of Enoch, I would say is probably the 95 percentile of being factual and truthful. because I do feel like there's so much that lines up to the Bible that that was kind of the point. It's a very secret society thing to do when it comes to what the Freemasons do, what, and I'm going to get into the Brotherhood of the Snake briefly. So the Brotherhood of the Snake was the oldest secret society. It was started by Enoch, son of Kane.

So again, Brotherhood of the Snake, you know where that stems from. The serpent in the garden, that's kind of where it went. So Enoch, who was son of Kane, he created hieroglyphs. Like he was the one that learned, like taught people how to write and symbols and all that. A lot of people think it was Enoch, son of Seth, who was Adam's son. But that's not necessarily true. if you look at the lineage of Enoch and the other Enoch, it's a huge gap there because Enoch that's from Seth's lines way down the line, whereas like Enoch from Kane was like Kane to Enoch. You know what I mean? Kane's first city that he built, he named it after Enoch.

Enoch was big in like the, you know, pre-de-Luvian, anti-de-leuvian world, which is the deluge. If anybody doesn't know what that means, that means the flood. Yeah. So during that time, Enoch, and they started cohorting with Fallen Angels, that's kind of what they did. Because Kane was really angry at God after, you know, he killed Abel and he was shunned. And he just really wanted to take what they call the seven sciences and distort them. Because God taught the seven sciences to Adam in the garden. And Adam wanted those to still be pure as he taught his sons.

well, I mean, obviously he already taught Kane and then Kane flipped. Kane took those seven sciences, and one of those is geometry. And if you know anything about Freemasons, then any secret societies, everything's built on geometry. Everything's about masonry. That's what it's about. So these guys were great builders. Kane, great builder. Way down his line, Tubalcane, if you know anything about Tubalcane,

Tubalcane is big in Freemason mythology. So all these guys were all about building and symbols. So what they wanted to create was, and this is just to make it shorter about what the brother of the snake was, they wanted to take the seven sciences and corrupt them. But they wanted to show that they could do them better than God. And that's what the fallen angels kind of come into play, because they taught technology to Kane's side. So that's kind of where the Nephlem come in about the seventh generation of Kane when they come in, you know, with the daughters of men. And they create the Nephilim. and then it kind of starts bleeding over into Seth's line by the 10th generation,

because the 10th generation is where God was like, man, this world's getting too crazy. We got to go ahead and get Noah and them on the ark and, like, clear this thing out. Because a lot of people think that when God talked to Noah, and he basically said, you're perfect in my eyes, you and your family, that he was talking about his holiness. That's what most Christians will say. But that's not the case.

When he looked at Noah and said that, he was talking about his DNA, his bloodline because that's the bloodline that Jesus was going to come from. You see Lucifer, and then they wanted to corrupt that line, so there was no line for Jesus to come from. So that's where that idea goes to. Now, Enoch, not being the Enoch that we thought that wrote the book of Enoch, this stems from Freemason lore. So the Freemasons have done a really good job here over the past hundred or so years to cover that up. but there were two guys that were huge Freemasons, James Anderson and George Oliver, and they were big time, you know, upper tier Freemasons, definitely, you know, ran lodges. And they were two different time periods, but they both happened within the 16 to 1700s. And in their writings, they wrote about Enoch being Kane's son and that he wrote the book of Enoch and that the pillars actually come from the sons of LeMec. which is from Cain's line, which is Tubal Cain and all them, and it's not Boaz, and it's not Yakin.

That's not what, that's what they say now, but it all came from Cain's bloodline. And if you know anything about Enoch, he hid the tab, he hid the symbols in the Mount of Moriah, if you know anything about that. Okay. So that's how it survived the flood, because he put it in this, like, underground cave and locked it away. They did that because the fallen angels knew that there was a flood coming and they needed to protect these symbols. So the symbols would get back to these people. And then obviously the Nephlam came back again. And we'll get into what I think about that.

But after the flood, you had this kind of breakaway because, you know, you had Noah and you had his son Ham and then Nimrod came from that line. And if you know anything about Nimrod and like what he tried to build, which was, you know. Awesome guy. A Tower of Babel. Well, he wasn't a Nephlin. Some people think he was, though, but he did intermarry into, like, nephalum bloodlines, though. He was very attracted to this nephalum idea.

That's what he wanted to be a part of. So. Poser. Exactly. So they did retrieve these symbols and retrieve this documentation, which the book of Enoch was transcribed from. Because if you know anything about Luke Safran, you know, anything about Freemasons or anything in these secret societies, the deeper roots of them.

Their job is to corrupt something that's holy. Side note, and he and I just did a podcast unless we had a guy on there, esoteric Eddie, and that guy's phenomenal. He's just like, this guy knows everything about everything. If you know anything about Lucifer, the name Lucifer, it actually didn't come from anything bad. St. Lucifer was a literal, this is great now. He was in the church, and he fought the church because they wanted to corrupt. and basically say that Jesus was not God himself.

He actually fought against them. They shipped him off to an island. So somehow his name became synonymous with evil because the evil was split. The church was church. And so that name Lucifer became known as something evil. And obviously the devil ran with it because he's like, I'm going to corrupt something good again. So St. Lucifer is actually probably one of the dopest dudes ever with it cave to like protecting Christianity. Because he was fighting for the truth of Jesus Christ.

Yes. Because back then Constantine wanted to say that Jesus was born a man, but then he was given Godhood because that way that every Constantine could say that, well, God gave me Godhood. I'm a God now. There you go. Yeah, basically they were saying that like God and Jesus is one in one instead of saying like the separate of the son of God. And that way, like he said, the next king or the emperor could be like, but God gave him

Godhood after he was born. He wasn't born God. God gave him his godhood. So that's how God operates. So any of the rulers from that point on could say, well, yeah, I was born with this godhood. You have to obey me because I'm your God now because God gave this to me. The church, the corrupted side of the church, wanted to promote that.

St. Lucifer did not. And he was very much against that. He said that God was born, God. Jesus was God when he was born. And that was a big part of his pushback on that. Now, he did end up getting off the island and coming back, but they never really accepted him back and he was always very like anti the system. Somebody I really love. I was going to say. I was going to say, like St. Lucifer was actually really a good dude though. So it's a poster of them in your

house. For sure. But like back to the guys Oliver and Anderson, the Oliver Legends, the Anderson you can get a hold of their works. It's very easy to find. There's PDF files like online. You can actually type their names up Anderson or Oliver Freemason in Wikipedia and pull up all their stuff. You can get to it. But they. both were very much, they were academics and they were super intelligent and they were, you know, they were basically just transcribing things that had been passed down through Freemasons for generations. They were just transcribing this stuff. So they both talked about that the guy that wrote the book of Enoch was not the Enoch that we knew. They said that their job was to protect the cane bloodline,

the brotherhood of the snake, the dragon bloodline, which is the Nephilim bloodline. A lot of people get it confused. They think that this like elite bloodline that they think you have comes from like reptilians. Maybe if you think reptilians are also fallen angels, maybe that's the case. But it's actually a Nephlin bloodline. You have to understand. Elites think that they're better than us because they have the God's bloodline. They have this like special thing. That's why they look at everybody different. It's not because that they, you know, look at us and say, well, we got more money than you. That's why we think we're better than you. It's not materialistic. No, it's not. It never has been. And that's what the brotherhood of the snake, if you look at any graphics on, you know, what is the closest to the eye, I guess, would be like as far as secret societies, it's the brother of the snake.

And then everything else stems from them because that's what they started. But this came from Kane and Enoch, who, in my opinion, and a lot of guys smarter than me that have written about it is the guy that wrote the book of Enoch. He wrote enough truth to make us think it was like holy Enoch, but there's some big discrepancies. And again, so you're saying that the book, from what you're saying, then it was written to deceive. Absolutely. Okay, for our first sponsor today, we have Simply Safe and Friends, let me tell you something best. So I've been putting up these security cameras everywhere on my house, my studio, and I'm learning that I need more. because I have some pests around my house and I don't know who is the culprit.

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about to say but there's a lot of rebuttals to everything that's probably being said right now Like, the, the idea of the Messiah being prophesied in Enoch, maybe the, maybe everybody, maybe there's a lot of people that were aware of this Messiah to come. And it wasn't, it wasn't necessarily a prophecy as much as it was just writing, writing down what, maybe writing down a prophecy that everybody knew about in a book called Enoch. And then, like you said, about some truths, like, what the fallen angels did do with humans and what they did do teaching them and stuff. One thing I wonder is, I don't know. Now, the first book, second book, third book, Enoch. Now, I've learned most my stuff about Enoch from Heiser. And I believe he's the one that said that, that the second book and third book, or maybe it wasn't Heiser, I don't remember,

but basically the second and third book wasn't written by the same Enoch, let's put it that way. And I wonder, was the first, or was the second book and third book found with the Dead Sea Scrolls like the first book was?

Because if it was, we know that the Dead Sea Scrolls and how that whole thing came about where the archaeologists hired people, local people. I think they were actually young kids, to go up into the mountains where this cave was to bring out these slabs or whatever it was written on.

And they said that we'll pay you this much money for every piece you bring to us. And so they were breaking them up there and bringing them down into pieces so they would make more money. And so if that happened and those books were together, could they have gotten mixed up? I don't know. I mean, it's a possibility. I'm open to the idea that the book is, is. corrupted in the sense of maybe there's some that was written by Enoch just say this real quick you would get a tremendous amount of backlash from me right now if you came in here and said to me

the book of Matthew is completely corrupt and wrong I would be like okay I don't agree with that at all like I think you're right like Matthew's like well it's sharp and it's canonical though that's what I'm that's where I'm going with like like I would probably a rare occasion enter into a very serious debate on my show because I'm not going to let somebody come on my show and say something that I personally believe could sway people away from a salvation moment. Absolutely. So, like, but I don't, I've never believed that that Enoch is canonical in the sense that it's not. It's not in the canon.

Yeah. And at times, I felt like, man, I feel like it should be in the canon, but it's not. And because it wasn't in the canon, I was, there's a certain amount of humility on a personal level that you have to take on and say it doesn't matter how you feel, it matters of what the canon consists of. Right. And you go with that. And that's where the faith comes in, where it's like, all right. Like, these are moments that it's an opportunity, not a burden, to grow your faith and

trust in God and just trust that God is in control. And even though you see things a certain way and you're like, I think this might, we might have screwed the pooch on this one. Like we just, at the end of day, we got to fall back to saying, you know what, God's in control. So I don't understand this moment. I feel like I would do things different or I would have made sure that it got in there. God's in control at the end of the day. And so that's kind of how I, anyways, back to you, Joel. So, you know, I just think it's when you look at like fallen angel activity and just Lucifer, for lack of better word for the guy, because he's got a ton of names. But,

you know, they got the long game, man. He's had the game since the beginning. Yeah. So they, they would know Jesus's coming, right? You know, obviously. And they're going to try to do everything they can to stop it, one. They couldn't stop it, which they ultimately knew,

but they're still going to try. And anything they can to corrupt, anything that's good. So when you follow, like, the Freemasons like Anderson and Oliver, they even talk up, they even show you the bloodlines of Seth and then the bloodlines of Kane.

And when you start breaking that down, a lot of those names look very similar. There's two Enochs. there is like a Methusail and the Methuselah on the other side. There has been some theories that are floated around, again, by some guys that are way, way deeper down the rabbit hole than I am on these subjects, but at least I read their stuff and I can get a good idea. I would say, and let me put it this way for you, before you going further on that,

they're way more maybe informed, but you go deep. Yeah. So like, like, I just want to clarify that. Like, like, I'm sitting here thinking. like you go deep and and I admire that you know and so I don't want you to kind of like say something that makes you feel like makes you maybe perceived as like oh maybe they're more educator on the subject like they've done more research than I have sure I'm fortunate enough to have read their stuff that that's what I'm trying to say is that like they did the research

you read it but it's not like you're just like oh they did research I heard a little snippin let me just yeah like you you did a lot of right right and I did some file I do follow out research too so if like they there's cross-reference stuff I'll go and look up the people, you know, especially if you're looking at documents from, you know, hundreds of years ago or whatever. Who does that anymore? Actually follow up on information. Like, that's, you're a rarity.

Right. We have to because they demand it, you know, like, if we post anything, they're like, yeah, where's your references? Right. So you had Anderson and Oliver, you know, their stuff's phenomenal, but they, you know, talk about how that these lines, it was almost a game on the cane side. They would even change their names a lot of times to mimic the other side because the long game was to confuse people in the future. So that's part of it.

And that gets to like my next part of this connection between fallen angels, this Nephilim thing, which I think is going to return. And I also think the gray aliens, which a lot of people are having this big connection with, even over the centuries, there's been stuff up even in. ancient pyramids, hieroglyphs on the walls, you can see even gray aliens and stuff. I think it's been a setup from the get-go to deceive humankind into thinking that they were the gods of old. They were the ones that helped create us. They spliced DNA. They did all this stuff. And I think that there's been a huge push since 1947 to teach us that.

before you go into all that, you said 1947. Has anybody ever noticed that the years like 1947, 48, mid to late 40s? Like, it seems like there's a lot of pivotal things that came out of that. For instance, like the book of 1984 was written in 1948 and we're right now. It seems like there was things happening there. And we know what was happening to the Nazis, the esoteric stuff, the alchemy that they were practicing. who knows what kind of sorcery they unleashed in the world, the nuclear bomb happening and the energy that that took,

and I live in the area where that was developed. And it's just like there's this like, I feel like at times I look at things and I'm like, everything kind of points back to certain points of time. It's like, that day keeps popping up. And for me, the mid-40s to the late 40s is one of those things. It's just like everything comes from that period. It's just like we're still feeling the effect. of things, whether it's, you know, Orwell and what he wrote and how we're seeing the world unfold

now. And it's just like, yo, bro, like, you know. I don't disagree with you, Tony, at all, because I think that there was a huge technology boom right after 1947 to now. I mean, it's insane. I'm sorry. I forgot everybody's like, Roswell. Yes, Roswell is one of those. And you mentioned technology, and could the technology boom have come from Roswell? So my theory is on the Roswell incident. And again, it's that I made up the theory, but I have spawned my own ideas off from the theories that were going around, is that Roswell, it was fallen angels. This was technology that they created. This is something that people have a really hard time buying into because Christians in general just blow off the supernatural, which blows my mind because you believe in a supernatural God that you don't really understand. We even talked about it before, too.

We think it's crazy that, like, some people believe in angels. but think it's crazy to believe about aliens. Some people believe about aliens and think it's crazy to believe about angels. And when they kind of, you know, they're kind of almost the same thing when we don't know what they are. And then people are like, oh, no way, man.

You believe in angels? Aliens, yeah, for sure. But I can believe in both. But like a lot, it kind of seems like there's that divide on that area. Yeah. No, there definitely is. And it's like, I think we were talking about this on your, on your episode for episode 100,

we were kind of hitting on this stuff. It's just funny how, like, this old way of thinking about certain things, these researchers, they don't progress past certain points and stuff. And it's just like, all you have to do is read just the news of the day. Like, they're telling you, we have craft that were created here on Earth. I got my own thoughts on all that, but they're telling you this stuff, you know? And so it's just like, you got to say, at some point, be like, yeah, maybe reality is just

way more strange and complicated than I ever could have imagined because I've been taught otherwise. And guess what? the people who taught you that, they knew. Oh, yeah, for sure. Like, like, maybe not your school teacher, but like down the road where all this information came from, somebody knew that they were, they were up to no good. They were there chicanery going on.

They were going to manipulate the masses moving forward into believing in a certain thing. That just was not true. And I think Roswell was the beginning of this, that piece of it. Now, I think they've been setting it up for centuries, though, because of how they had manipulated everything through other, you know, civilizations. because they knew they'd get to a certain point and then they could drop this, you know, alien bomb on everybody. So I think, again, there was plenty of, there was plenty of stuff before Roswell, but that was the moment, right? Like, that was the moment where technologies started booming.

And I feel like, you know, especially if you were Bill Cooper's book, Pell Horse and all that, because he breaks in that incident a little bit deeper where, you know, the alien bodies were there. There were two that were alive. One of them survived. The other didn't. And then one of them, they interrogated for like a year, I think it was. And he would talk to it or whatever. And then one day they walked in and he was just speaking English. He was like, I listen.

Like, let me get a hold of my people, whatever. So a lot of people in circles that understand fallen angels and understand manipulation against long game. Of course, they sit around for a year and do that. So the game is to, in his book, he talks about there was a deal brokered between like some UN and like, you know, Eisenhower is a part of it. And they did kind of like a whole deal where, hey, we're going to show you, give you a bunch of technology. And we're going to abduct people. We're going to tell you who we're going to abduct, too. We're getting a list.

I think it was mostly women. And I think there's a reason for that. So they broker this deal, which, of course, the fallen angels slash great aliens slash reptilians, what are you going to call? Because it's kind of like all in the same, like, boat, kind of go haywire anyway. Because it's not just no deal. Like you made a deal with the devil, literally. So they're right around, do whatever they want. And, you know, you've got some people, like in the deep circles that understand what they are.

Like, I think in the shadows, the deeper, you know, societies that you don't hear the names of that don't have names. I think government part of it, I think maybe some of those people may know some of them. I think a lot of them do think that they're aliens. And I think that they do think that, hey, man, they're giving us all this technology and all this and that. Well, hey, guess what? we're talking about the book of Enoch, there was a group called the Watchers that gave technology to humankind in a tradeoff for the human women. So again, we're kind of like back at that part again. That's a good point. So we're repeating. Oh, nothing new under the sun. Right. So we're kind of back at

that point again, right? Hey, listen, like, I'm digging and keep going. So you got these, you got this tradeoff going on. Also, you've got these countries. like U.S. and everything are leery about these quote-unquote aliens as well. I think that does exist. I think they are worried about it. Like I don't think that all of them know what they really are. I think if you get back into like, you know, the deeper, you know, secret societies like I was talking about. Yeah, like those guys know what's going on. Of course they're like, yeah, this is going great. You know what I mean? This is going, this is going phenomenal. But I do think there's this weird part where not everybody.

knows everything that's going on. And to that point, I think, you know, Falling Angels is kind of running amok right now. And I think what they want to do, because now think about the elite system, Tony, when they do decide to make their move with, and you're a Christian, and I'm sure you believe that the Antichrist is going to come to someone. Don't tell people that. I'm so ashamed. Yeah. That's what people want me to say, you know. You're a Christian, and you believe that And our Christ is coming. I believe that the Antichrist will be a nephalum. I think he will be of the bloodline. And I think that's why wouldn't he be? Also, I think that's going to play into the signs and the stuff they're going to be able to do. Because if you know, if you anything about the original nephalum, like the first guys that were like, you know, over like the 30 cubits. And they had, it said that they had serpentine like features. Eyes glowed. They were the men of renown. It says that in the Bible, these are your Titans. These are the stuff you heard. throughout like Greek mythology and all that.

These, they were, they were, what we would call superheroes now. I think that the issue with the elites, and you've said it, and you said it too, Sean, we talk about how, like, we outnumber these elites, right? So if we were to ever get it together, they couldn't stop us. Well, they know that. So what would they do? What kind of army would they think about building just in case? Well, let me just tell you, if it is anephalem, then I'm David.

because I'm going to I like the life goes down, man. Yeah. Oh, man. That's fascinating. Oh, and I think that it is believable also, too. We don't know that if these fallen angels can shape shift.

Can they? Oh, they can. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So, like, they can be anything. So maybe they are having that illusion of like, hey, we're reptilians. That keeps you off the track, right? Like, you're going to be like, oh, man.

Well, everybody says reptilian shapes. shift, right? So that will play into that. Sure. No, I'll tell you, the one thing that you said that really got me like, I got into my seat was when you're talking about in Enoch and what they taught in the exchange, and I was like, The watcher. I never thought

of that. That is, that's very, very, very interesting. That's very interesting. And I think great aliens are a combination of different things, right? So I think that I do believe that fallen angels do shape shift into them from time of time. That's more of your metaphysical where people think, you know, feel like they're getting

lifted up off the bed and they're like, yeah, I could almost see through them. They were trans, you know, parent or whatever. And you get some of that for sure. I think you also have what would be biological organisms. I think, and this is a theory that I'm floating around, I've heard it in circles, but I really like it. Again, it's a theory. So it's, you know, I'm not saying it's truth, but I like it, is that in conjunction with fallen angels or aliens or whatever, whatever, you know, the government thinks they are. We're creating these meat sack bodies for the demons, the spirits of the Nephilim from before that traverse this earth. Because somebody knows, fallen angels and demons are separate things. They're, you know, that's pretty

known at this point. Um, they kind of work for the fallen angels, but they were the spirits of the Nephilim. It's known for people like us. Right. I would say anybody tuning in that is new to the program. Maybe it's not so known. And they're like, what? Right. So they, they want to, they want to, host bodies. That's why they like humans a lot because they want to be able to manipulate us. But they're not fully manipulative. We're still not, you know.

You create these meat sack bodies. That's going to give you your biological looking grays. That's going to give you, and I would even traverse into the cryptid world as well, where I think that, yeah, I think there's real cryptids, and I think there's government-made cryptid meat-sack bodies that are also taken over by the Nephli, or the spirits of the Nephilim.

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me and Joel talking the next day. Why the next day? Because some crazy things happened during the interview, the recording process of this episode, and we had to address it, but we couldn't address it right away. So we had to address it the next day. And yes, there will be more to come following this. I promise you guys. You haven't heard the last of us on this topic.

We're going to go hard on this topic. So let's get back to the episode and you can hear what happened and how ticked off I was that this happened. So anyway, Nephlin have these like babies and they like, have like eight at a time. And then they come across over trial world. Burr.

I heard something about Nephlin babies and crossing where this earth and that was the equipment breaking down again oh okay oh man well man good morning morning how are you i'm good brother good so uh we're recording this i think what a day later day later yeah Sean already left and uh people listening right now and watching because i think I'm put this on YouTube. They're probably like, what the heck happened? Oh, is this another commercial? No, this isn't a commercial.

Well, maybe it is. It's a commercial for weird things that are happening around here. And the reason why we're interrupting this program is because something happened during the recording right at this point. And we've thought, well, I think we should probably explain to the audience the weird transition in this episode at this point. So I'm going to hand it over to you and let the people know. Real briefly, doesn't have to be long.

In general, what happened yesterday, but what, and that it's been happening apparently. So go ahead and tell them what happened, I guess. Yeah, man. So we're talking about some sensitive subjects, which they've probably heard a good bit as of now. And we got up after the entire recording was done, and we realized that the roadcaster had stopped recording.

At this point. At this point. Yeah. And you were really ticked off. Furious. I'm still mad. I was hopping around like a kid in a... Yes.

At Christmas. Because... You were excited. Yeah, because we had had this conversation a week ago. Mm-hmm. Or two, actually. So I've had two other podcasts that I've done leading up to this one. I did one with Eric from Uncomfortable, who's been on your show.

And it's called Portal Babies. and I break down in detail what I think's going on in the poor world with Nephlam and how they're building this hybrid army. Yeah. His, the server shut down 10 times on us. And while that was going on, there was all this weird clicking. Like,

even Eric was like, I think we're being monitored. And he's very logical. He doesn't really go down. He doesn't go like we do to that. Like, yeah, I know it's the government.

Eric's like, let's think about this. We're like, no, we are thinking about this. Eric. And this is the only logical conclusion. Well, he looked at me after about the fourth time. He's like, man, what are you doing? He's like, what are you getting involved with? He's like, well, you got me involved with. And we got through it. He ended up having to put a disclaimer at the beginning

the show. He did the best job he could to edit it. But he left some of it in. He just wanted people to know, like, look, like, that's what we went through. Yeah. Took him like three, four hours to even edit the show. So. Been there. Yeah. And so a couple weeks later, I ended up doing a show with Cryptids of the Corn, who you're going to have on. Yeah. Great dudes. Great show. I really wasn't even talking about this stuff to start with.

It was really about the Dogman journey. And, you know, they talk about Cryptos a lot. So we want to talk about Dog Man and, you know, what happened when I was in Kentucky. And somehow it spawned off onto gray aliens and meat sack bodies. And we started talking about some about Poral World and Nephilim, their entire, system shut down. We're talking to hardware. That's never happened to them before. Matter of fact, they called the company a couple of days later to ask them, you know, what they thought about it. They said they've never heard of that. That doesn't happen to a system. It's never happened.

And they have a backup power source to the system so it shut down both. The main power and then the secondary power. So the system shut down and theoretically when things are operating, they have the backup for a reason. And that is so that it can keep running with the back. of power and that shut down too. And that shut down as well. And it happens whenever you're talking about this stuff. Yeah. And so you said to me a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about coming down, you told me about this stuff. And you're like, I'm really interested to see if it happens in your studio. I was like, yeah, probably not. Like, right. Right. Like, I mean, I'm like, I mean, I got, I got real good equipment. And I was like, you know, you're going to be here in person.

It's not going to be. I think I even mentioned that to you. I said, it's not remote. You're not, on the phone with somebody or anything like that. You said this will be the real test. Yeah, it would be the real. I did say that. I said it would be a real test. You put it out there, man. You put it out there.

You tested them. Well, we're going to test them some more here moving forward. For sure. So we didn't know that the recording stopped recording until we were done recording. And I got up and saw the message on the roadcaster saying that it stopped recording. And I was like, you got to be kidding me. I was ticked. And so I looked and I saw that we recorded 45 minutes, like 45 minutes and some odd seconds of a, of a conversation.

Right. And just before we hit record here, for the first time I look back, I'm still mad about it. I didn't want to look at it. And it ended, right? Like, you got a big chunk of all that information out and then it ended. And it's just like, what the heck? Yeah. Because I think, I'm not totally sure this next segment that people are about to hear, but like, I feel like we transitioned or

around this time into something else. And it was like, you spilled these beans and they're just like, okay, that's enough of this. Yeah. And I was tailing off for sure. And who's they? I don't know. You were rapping about the fallen angels and Nephilim. And there's a lot of weird things happening.

Well, tied it into Roswell and everything else. Yeah. Oh, yes, yes. And I broke down the Brother of the Snake with Kane and Enoch. We talked about the book of Enoch. and how they trade technology. Yeah. So anytime I touch these subjects and I start putting the strings together on the board

is when stuff starts going haywire. Goes haywire, I guess. So here's the thing. So the audience watching and listening, we were filming this at the same time. And so we have the audio from the cameras. I didn't have any external microphones on the cameras because I wasn't planning on using the audio from the cameras.

And you briefly mentioned about, Should we re-record? I'm like, no, we're not re-recording because we're not going to hit that conversation like we did. It was very organic. And so for the rest of this episode, which I believe is going to be about 35, 40 minutes, it is going to be audio off the cameras. And I apologize for the poor audio quality you're about to hear and all that stuff. But that's why it switches up here.

So for the rest of the episode, you're going to hear crappy audio and the rest of the conversation, which I think is good and important to get out. And just let the audience know moving forward here. We have already planned this out. When I said we're going to test them again, we're going to do this again. And am I talking like I'm from the South? I just heard that in my ears again. You're already changing.

Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, hot dog. 30 hours of you. So what we're going to do is we're going to have Justin from Cryptids of the Corn down here. Yeah. We're going to have Eric from Uncomfortable Podcast down here that happened on their shows. We're going to have you down here.

And of course, I'm going to be here. And we're going to have all four of us in the room. And we're going to redo this. And we're going to have you talk about all this stuff again, all of it. Everything you talked about on their shows, my show, we're going to do, I don't care how long it takes. I want you to share everything you're thinking about, everything that you've been looking into. And we're going to test it again. We're going to record this joint.

and we're going to get it done. And listen, if I got to listen to you say the same freaking thing five times for 15 hours and one day to get this recording done, I'm freaking getting it done. Because I'm going to be honest with you, man, like when this kind of stuff happens, I try to just think, okay, logical stuff. And I think there can be a logical explanation in the sense that technology does what technology does. It kind of can glitch, right?

But here's the thing. The first two time, happened. It was way more of a glitch than I feel like mine was. I think mine might have been a hardware thing. But the problem is it happened. Right. And no matter how it happened, it happened. And it's like, I'm poking the bear. Yeah. I feel it's like, it's like, just get the job done. It doesn't matter how you get the job done. Just get the job done. And I feel like that was like the mentality here. If we're poking at bears and stuff and there's people or things that are just like, you know, you can't talk about this. They're like, we don't care if it's through a glitch, turning the power off, or just messing up the hardware, because I've got to call Road today and talk to them.

And who knows how long that's going to take because my assistant is out working. And so I'm going to, that said, I want to get this. I think it's, listen, I don't know what's going on. I do. Wait for, hold, pump your brakes. Okay. Pause. All right.

Calm down. and I don't care to be honest with you what's happening. Yeah. When it comes to the interruptions and stuff, I believe that sometimes, like, I've gotten better at this over the years. At times things happen and you need to look at it from an outside perspective and understand that you're in a moment of importance. Yeah.

And then sometimes in that moment, especially for me, I don't recognize that. I'm just like, it's just this, you know? Right. You know what I mean? I don't want to, like, just like with the spiritual side of things, like I don't want to over-spiritualize things. I also don't want to over-analyze things and read into things and try to make things paranormal that aren't paranormal. But the thing is, I, I, what I had happened, you could easily, like, not easily, but I feel like I could say it wasn't paranormal. It was just a hardware problem. But the fact that it happened during that

conversation and you had two other things happen or happened it happened twice other times and those were much more glitchy than than I feel like mine was it pulls me into the equation. I'm just like, okay. Yeah. I think there's, I think, I think you might be talking about something that somebody or something or things do not want to be talked about. And we're going to, we're just going to keep poking bears. So yeah, with that said, let's get to the rest of the episode where people are going to have crappy audio, but that's why. And just know that probably within the next couple months, we're getting the whole team down here around the table and we're going to do this again. And we're going to go as long as it takes to get that information on a recording and then

we're going to put it out to everybody. And we're going to, and I haven't talked to the guys, but I'm pretty sure if I'm saying we're going to do this, they'll be fine with it. We're going to do like a, what's it called when everybody goes, puts it out at the same time, like a swap cast kind of thing, you know, like everybody. all shows your show their shows my show all the same time exact same moment same day all of it's going to go out at one time so it doesn't matter who you're subscribed to you're going to hear it and see what happens yeah what do you say i'm down all right let's get back to this episode yeah i think there's real cryptids and i think there's government made cryptids meat sack bodies that are

also taken over by these nephal or the spirits of the nephalum and i think there's metaphysical too I think that's why it's always different. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Absolutely. And what you just said is what I've been saying for a long time about a lot of this stuff is, like, I've divorced myself from over the years trying to identify one particular phenomenon to a one particular definition. I think that like with Bigfoot and Dog Man, like these are things that have multiple orgies, multiple. And I just on a very physical, real basis, I don't think anybody, well, definitely, definitely people can debate it, I'm sure.

But the government told us back in the 90s, they can do cloning. Right. So back in the 90s, they could do cloning. I think most people, that even make it tune into the show, have maybe understanding at least that if the government tells you they can do something in the 90s, chances are they could do at least 20, 30 years before. that, you know. And so let's just take that concept and with these creatures. I really believe that there are some of these creatures, not all of them, again, because I don't block myself, I lock myself into one specific definition for everything.

But I do believe that there are some of these creatures that are being designed in a lab created for a purpose to serve these more elite type organizations. And I talked about, I think I talked about in your podcast. Yeah, so we talked about the whole, the white big foot around here popping up in Pennsylvania. It's going to be popping up around these, a deep underground military bases, and we kind of went into that and stuff. But it's really something that I think is a very valid point, and I think it's very important for people like us to have thoughts, but not lock ourselves into certain specific things. Listen, as I said before in the show, I'll say it again, the only. very specific thing. I am going

to lock in on and you can put a bowl in my head before I say otherwise is Jesus Christ, son of God. I'm not recanting on that and I am not pretending like there's a other option. If somebody else wants to roll like that around me and stuff, we can have our little conversation and stuff, but you

are not changing. I will be a stubborn, arrogant, old man. You could be like, here's right here, just look afraid. I am not looking. Like, I have no I think I'm a sire. Brayson Joel thinks the same way. Yeah.

Yeah. I think there's another, like, kind of, we kind of floated a theory that we were talking about when we did our Lambda episode. Like, what he's saying that the Antichrist would be anephalo, we kind of, like, came up to this conclusion that maybe it's AI. That, like, that maybe even some of these spirits and stuff, that AI is, that's the way they're going to channel it into people like falling angels. Because I think they have to progress, right? Times progress. In the early 15th century, it's. easy to be like, hey, I'm really, you know, here's a meat suit. I think it's progressed over time.

And now the AI aspect is really becoming a strong suit in what we're, everything that we're doing. There's actually podcasts that are literally run by AI. Yes. And that's something that I told people with the AI art that the AI art's getting popular. I didn't know about the podcast. But it's funny you say that because I said when I knew about the art that in the future, these AI, the AI is going to be you're going to have AI podcasts. and if you are a real human being talking in a microphone, I think you're going to be more valuable because it's such a rarity. Yeah. I think the same thing with the art.

I think it's AI art is going to, it is, it's blowing up. I use it. And it's so, it's going to be on a level where if you come across somebody who actually does what the AI does with their hand, that is in, like, you can't put a price tag on that. Oh, yeah. And so I think it's going to actually, because people are like, he's going to ruin. I'm like, actually, I think it's going to increase the value of true artists.

At first, it will dip because everybody would jump on it, but you're right. Because I don't think AI can actually be, because how can he compete with what God created? Like, right? Like, yeah, we kind of, you know, in God's light. But I just think that AI is going to have that little like, you know, run around wherever I'm saying, oh, I got AI. Because now they got an AI rapper that sign. Well, he's not AI totally. The name's AI.

No, his name's FN, Mecca or something. He's a virtual TikTok star that's like 10. million. And he's on AI. Yeah. But he's voiced by actual human. So like, but they're like,

we're working on that. You know? Wow. It's so wild. And he signed. Yeah. This is a rapper that you'll never see in person like the actual human that does like the voice and stuff.

But it's totally virtual. Wow. And remember Japan came out with that pop star like 20 years ago. That was huge. They would have the hologram of the pop star up there dancing and singing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was a while ago, too, like maybe 10, 20 years ago.

And so they're going to keep progressing with that, the hologram technology. That's something that I really do think that, like, that would be what the antichrist really would be. Because it's so easy to integrate and people are so involved in social media, so involved in TikTok, Instagram, Reels. And now they're falling from, there's even AI influencers. They're on Instagram that they're like, hey, look, I'm doing my makeup. Like the same, and they have millions of a bit. And again, we don't know how many of those are bots, you know, like, obviously, like, with you in your accounts.

Most of them are me falling in there. You look at Apollo accounts as Bokke and Bokkeberg, Bunkie Berckeber, Bercke Berckeber. Oh, it's funny, man. This is fascinating. This is really interesting. The AI route here, in AI being possible antichrist connection. Well, they say Google.

Is that the one that's Sinty. We did a whole episode about it. Yeah, I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. And that's actually the last thing that when we first started talking about it. Like the advancement of AI just... What if Sintian, and this has been my theory, is demons or fallen angels that have integrated with the technology?

What if that's a way to manipulate? I think that demons and angels can integrate with technology. I believe that... They can. We know that. Yeah. But this is why I think that. So what people would consider magic or, you know, God creating the universe would be magic, right?

We don't understand it. I think it's still all science. I think there's a science to all of it. I just think it's science we don't understand. So like angels watch God do this. Yeah. They understand the science. It's way more than we do.

Yeah. So think about it. When they're trading technology back in Enoch's days, you know, and I've got, and I've always said this, I think technology could have been greater before the flood than it is now. Absolutely 100%. I agree with you. So I think that we're getting back to that point where fallen angels are integrating again. They're just being smarter by this time.

They're just not in the open, like being flashing now. They're doing it in a different way. And when you say it was greater too, I think that people misunderstand like because we can't perceive. Like we're like, oh, we have TVs. And you're like, yeah, well, it was different technology. It was completely different. We couldn't even fathom how it was. everybody expected to be like, it has to be a flying car, it has to be, and be like, no, they found

different ways. Just like with the pyramids, all that stuff, it was probably there, oh, well, there's no way that they could have done it. Well, they figure out a tool. We just don't know what it is. We can even see the artifact and not know what that is. So I interviewed Derek Olson and that interview is going to be coming out this coming Tuesday.

So by the time people hear this, they'll already know what I'm referencing. But Derek Olson talks about this, this megalithic, he's going to run megalithic marbles on Instagram. It's a huge account. And he was talking about like, this ancient technology. And he said that we approach technology different than they did back then. Yeah.

He said that technology for them, I'm going to push this, but the idea was that for them, technology was not for, I'm not even going to just go back and listen to the episode, guys. Let's just listen to it. Give me another download, you know. I want to see the numbers double on that episode. No, I can't remember how he said it. It was something like, you know, the Tony enter clip of him saying that right now.

But it was something with him saying something about, like, how they approach technology differently in the sense that, like, we look at it for technology for ease of use, like making our lives easier and stuff. And they didn't have that mentality with their technology. And just the total concept of technology, the way they viewed it was different than us. Like, it makes sense. I mean, like, like technology in this room, like everything that in this room, like everything that in the technology, this room that we have that we're working with is technology that we are using to make our life easier for us to be able to do things that we couldn't do before. And it was like their technology almost had more deeper meaning behind it.

And if, but I, I agree. Spiritual. Yeah. And when, but when you get on that level of, you know, almost spiritual, uh, we're talking about some pretty powerful technology probably. Oh, yeah. I mean, because like, like, I don't worship these microphones. Yeah.

You know, I mean, uh, if, if they're on the level. level of almost spiritual. It's like it's such a deep rooted, at least for the most surface level where I got her deep rooted meaning for them. You know, but maybe it's just, I can't even fathom it all, but I thought it was really fascinating with what you were saying, Sean. I think it's the technology aspect of things. Back then, it was way more advanced than what we've been taught. And then there's the people and I don't know much about this. I've literally just been learning more about, not even learning more about this. It's just been seeing it pop up.

Apparently it's an old concept and I just, it's like the world's pushing in my direction. So I probably should do an episode on at some point. Tartaria and the mud. Yeah, yeah. We've done a lot of us. Did you? Okay. So maybe sure.

Maybe we'll do an episode on that sometime. Because like, I didn't, I didn't know, like, people were like, Mutflip, Muff, I'm like, what are we freaking talking about Mufflet? But it's the idea that like we had way more technology, you know, we could have comprehend just in a relatively recent. in history. I'm not saying I believe that. We don't know anything of history past 80 to 100 years. You know it reboots

like 80 to 100 years. And I guess that's a theory. Well, that's what I want. As I want somebody who actually knows what they're talking about with this whole theory to come on and talk about it because I don't know much about it. I'm inclined to think that's crazy. But I also

can understand the concept behind of like, hey, you know, like people die at, you know, 90, 100 years old. And eventually you got two generations away from that person. Like, say, like, Lindsay, my wife's grandmother died at, like, 96, right? So, like, when my son Ben is 60, he's not going to know who she was, what she was like or anything like that.

That's just family lineage. Right. Forget about the time of day. Like, so, like, so when my, my wife's grandmother was 20 years old, what the world was like and, you know, the news of the day, Ben's not having any concept of what it was like, you know? And so I can understand how that kind of, like, the generation. thing. The further you get away from the event, the easier it is for people who would want to to

manipulate that information into getting you to think and believe something completely different than what actually happened. Right. And that's what it is. I'm open to the whole idea of the mud flood and stuff. I don't know, you know, I've done some deep dives on it, but you know, of course you have. There's guys that, there's guys that, you know way more than I do about it, but I did one of those experts on. But it's interesting theory because it's something that's plausible in my mind. Because I think there's so much that's been manipulated throughout history that we really don't know. Like I said, we only really know back to the oldest known human right now. That's what we know, right? So we don't really know anything past that.

We only know what we've been taught in history. And if we know anything about history and who's bought and paid for it, and we don't say that on there. But bought and paid for it and changed it over the past, you know, just in the 1900s, I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty, to me, it's easy to say,

like, oh, we're pretty manipulated on the wrong fronts throughout education. The education system in general has been manipulated. Yeah. So I'm open to the idea of it. I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, it sounds cool.

One thing I do find that gets a little weird with it, that I have a tough time with, though, is it does kind of negate biblical stuff sometimes. Oh, that's not true. I'm out. So I don't know, like, how much of that. I'd have to go on some deeper dives and see what some guys think about it from that perspective.

But again, I'm very open to it. Some of them that sounds great, especially with the way that they could move stuff around using, like, technology would never understand. Bro, like, that, that, just going to be. Go, go, go. That alone should be undeniable. Yeah. The pyramid still exists.

Like, we have bridges that collapse after six. 60 years. When that bridge class was in Minneapolis, like in the mid-2000 or something like that, and there's like this nationwide, like these companies that inspecting bridges stuff are like expecting every bridge in the country. And what came out was that when they built these bridges, they built them to last 50 to 60 years. It was supposed to be basically rebuild or reinforced and we weren't doing any of that and they were falling apart. And to this day, we still have bridges that are decommissioned because the counties and municipalities don't have the money to rebuild these bridges and they're not safe.

And they realize that after that huge collapse. Yeah. So, like, if we have that today, just look at Egypt. No, no. And, like, that stuff that, I mean, that is anxious. You know what I mean? Like, there's multiple parties all over that are still existing. Antarctica.

And I think that there is. I push back a lot on the mud flood stuff. Like, just because the arguments that people bring up, like, they're like, hey, well, there's no paved streets. I'm like, well, do they need them? There wasn't cars. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there was no, there was no real reason for that, you know? So I think that some of the buildings and they'll be like, oh, look at the picture.

It was empty. I'm like, dude, if you go on to my block right now in the middle of 12, 1 o'clock in the afternoon, whenever it's at work, it's going to look empty. So a lot of their arguments, the one argument I did find interesting about the orphans. Like when they talked a lot about the orphanage, like how a lot of orphans, like how a lot of orphans, came to America and then they started talking about like the um what was those like the um the world fairs and stuff like that they were talking about around that time that there was such a migrant of orphans uh in america so that kind of like was a little bit weird like when you start looking down that route where you're like wow that's a lot of they're suggesting that the orphans came from these destroyed places yeah it's how did the orphans survive and the adults didn't that's that's that's part of the part that where i'm like get pushback because the one guy he sent me a documentary it was like 10 hours, man. I only got three hours into it.

Don't even think about sending it to me. I don't have to. No, not having it. He's going to be complaining to us like, I'll never get anything dog. Oh, man. So that's interesting. And, you know, I think it's fun to talk about

this stuff. And the mud flood, I feel like, has a vibe hearing you guys talk about it and stuff. To me, I could see this turning into a topic that has tension like the whole flat earth thing. Oh, yeah.

Or maybe already has that and I don't know it. But it just seems to me like... It's a good call, actually. I don't think it's there yet, but I could see it get into that. There's actually a lot of flat earthers subscribe to that. Oh, really? It's part of their whole everything. Yeah, yeah. Here we go. See.

But I mean, it seems like it's one of those things where if you believe this and you're like, I listen, I researched it. I looked into it. I listened to, you know, Eric DeBay or Dubai or whatever his name was. and he was talking about the mufflet and I know it all. Like, people are like, they're so convinced about it that, you know,

never have convinced yourself for anything. Very contentious, except for Jesus. But anyways. I agree with that. For sure. I love you. But,

I just, I feel like that could be a very contentious, contentious topic very soon. And just, because it's been hopping up in my feed, like on Instagram and stuff. And I remember, I was texting some people like,

what the heck is the mudflut? I'm looking at, like, Sammy Tripoli's show. Like, did he do anything about mud flood? And he did, and I forget to listen to it and all that stuff. But it's an interesting topic. I like that you said that, though, now you got me thinking because remember, like, flat earth. I know that there's people that thought there was flat, but the movement really got hot around, like,

I would say to the early 2000s, like when people were talking about it when I was in school, like as a kid and in high school. And then, like, I would say the early 2000s, like 2004 or five, you started hearing it. Or that way that far back? Yeah. It seemed like that. Yeah. Like not as big as it is now.

I'm just saying like stuff on ABC and they were like, oh, like, oh, look at these weirdos. Like, you know what I mean? They would make fun of them or whatever. Now it's like a whole movement. And now that you're saying that because it came out of nowhere, just like this mud flood stuff came out of like out of left field. Like I never heard.

I research everything. He researches a lot of stuff. And we didn't see real quick before. I know you got thought. Real quick, because I'm going to slide this into the mix. I find this fascinating about the flatter stuff and tartary stuff, right? It's rampantly going on social media unchecked, right? There are massive amounts about this.

So check this out, though. I have seen people post about hollow earth and it get flagged by Instagram as false information left and right. Why is that getting flagged but flat earth that just run an absolutely rampant. They want you to look into. They want you to believe. They want there's a, they want the psychological division amongst the people. What you said about that, if that's true. I don't know, but if that's true,

and the early 2000s, and the news was talking about, look at these goofballs and stuff, they were drawing attention to a topic that the mass public probably wouldn't have been drawn to if they didn't bring it up, and they got people looking into it, and they started,

it's always the back door. It's never overt, and it's always patience. They are, whoa. That's like an album name or something. I can't even say that one time. They let alone ten times.

But they're the most patient people in the room. They will wait. They'll do a little bit here and then wait and a little bit here. And then, you know, 20, 30 years goes by. And all of a sudden they got this monster in their hand. They envision, you know. And it's like we were talking yesterday about the bamboo. It's like bamboo spends three years growing roots under the ground.

And then all of a sudden, when the conditions are right, it grows two inches out of the ground an hour. So in one day you got four feet of bamboo. And it's like, where does this come from? And it's like, it's being patient. You know, letting the, letting it stew under the surface and let it, let it come busting through the surface on its own pace at its own time. Because if you can't rush these things, because if you rush it, it's flimsy, it's paper thin. Let it build itself. And then it comes busting through the surface and you're just like, yes, my baby creature.

Nobody can challenge you. Look at you grow two inches an hour. Beautiful. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. That's what it is, man. They're very patient. These people are very patient.

They have the goal in mind. And that's all you got to do is going back to, what, 1992, I think it was. Rockefeller, the quote was that he was, he opened up with saying thank you to the media organizations, like the New York Times and stuff, because without them keeping storylines and what they were doing quiet and discreet, they've never been able to accomplish their goals. Right. Like, so, and he said for the past, I want to say 40, I think it was, he said for the past 40 years. So like, you're talking like, say, 1992-ish going back to.

1952-ish. So if he's saying past 40 years and just say itch, let's just go with the itch, right? Because I'm sure that it wasn't exactly 40 years. What are we talking about now, time-frame-wise? We were just talking about 1945 and the 1950s. That time frame seems like everything's pointing back to that time. Now we're talking about like 1991-92-ish. He's saying for the last 40 years, well, that takes us back to their early 50s.

It's that time frame where they were doing chicanery and keeping things under wrap. the media was complicit back then. You thought everything was good. Oh, the land of the free, home of the brave. Oh, let's take it back to the 1950s where everybody was happy. Uh-uh. That's when the war started and it started brewing and they were patient. They waited 40 years, 50 years, 60 years, 70 years, and here we are 70 years later,

and it's finally starting to grow rapidly. Oh, yeah. It's now their bamboo. They finally have their bamboo. They were patient. Yeah. Well, technocracy was like invented in the early 1900s. Like, but they couldn't implement it because technocracy is basically, like, wanting to own data and, like, knowing everything about people through data, right?

And that's control, but they couldn't at that time. Now it's caught up. Like you said, they're patient. They'll wait, man. You know what I mean? They're not going to just like, they go, okay, we'll get there. As soon as everything catches up to it. And then, like you said, we're kind of coming up on that 40-year-ish, like from 92, you know?

Like, I think we're probably like eight years away or something like that. So it does seem like in 2030, I mean, it's around the corner. I think. I'll tell you, like, it's, it's, uh, it, it, what we were talking about earlier, too, it seems like there's a spiritual component component here in the sense that like, these people don't even care to see their goals, their personal goals come to fruition in their lifetime. They wanted to.

They're okay if it doesn't happen, though. And why would that be? Why would it be like, for me, I want to see Merkel media become a monster while I still breathe. Like, like, I kind of don't really care once I'm dead how Merkel media. It does. Just being honest, you know what I mean? Unless we've already built it into something that has a world mission goal that is like we're really doing good in the world. Yeah, I want that to carry on even if I'm dead, right? But like, if I die right now, oh, well, Merkel media, nice idea. It's done, though. You know what I mean?

So it's like they're so patient about it that there's a deep, rooted desire and meaning for them. Like I said about meeting before, there's this deep meaning for them that it's like, listen, we don't need to see the bloodlines. It's the bloodline. It's the kids' generation and stuff. It's like it's the reptilian, man. They're the reptilians. They're reincarnating themselves or something. I don't know. The bloodline of the gods.

I dig it. I dig it. Eugenics. I mean, that reminds me of eugenics. Like when you were talking about it earlier, I was like, well, that whole bloodline thing, that's what eugenics was all about. It's like, oh, what kind of per? Oh, you're not good enough. You know, race, how you look, your eyes too close.

Even like like, no offense, but ginger's. I'm not that you know, I'll say, do you know who started eugenics? Like the country? Or the Pacific person? No, the, eugenics, like the, like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the bloodlines and the way people look and stuff. Like, a lot of people think that Germany was, like, with Nazis and stuff was, you know, they, they, they did the whole eugenics stuff. Like, we, America went to Germany and taught them how to do that. stuff. Like we're the ones who came up with all this chicanery with that stuff. And we went to

Germany and like, hey, you guys got, you got, you guys got to get in on this, you know, and like, we're going to give you this information. We're going to teach you how to do this, but you got promise one thing. What's that? There's this guy named Hitler. Bring him on over here and let him get into the power and stuff. The thing that's funny is that they actually pushed away from the eugenics programs, like, like, as mainstream wise, because of Hitler, because they got bad press. you know, I remember, oh, man, let's say that we don't know that, like, you know, like, how they try to change stuff in history. And now there's, like, this new genic. So we're going to be doing an episode soon about it, like new genics, like the new way of how they're trying to, like, it's no more like, hey, let's just put a bullet in them or let's just abortions or whatever they want to say.

Now there's new ways of getting people to kind of get rid of themselves. So please tell me Bill Gates will be in that episode. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because Bill Gates is here like, you know, back in the 1914. granddad, he was part of the American Eugenics Society. And he really laid the foundation of my family lineage. And then daddy followed with, you know, like, like, he's on your shirt right now, you know? What's this saying?

Bill Gates, USA's biggest, I can't think so they're one. Farmland owner. Oh, man, I haven't heard about that. What, tell me more about that. But he's got out of food, technocracy, and population control. Oh, man. That's great. What company is that?

Forbidden. Clothing clothes. Forbidding clothes. Yeah. You're pretty much like an ambassador for them. They're great, man. They make some of the best. He's wearing one too.

Yeah. I got to get some of those shirts. Like, you know what I got? And this is going to sound weird. I'm going to say it publicly. I'm going to say it in front of the whole world. When we're done recording, can I feel your clothes? Yeah.

I want to see how soft they are. Yeah. I don't feel like. Because I hate ordering clothes. And the shirt comes like, oh, that's going to shrink. You know, it's just like, I hate it. You know? It's great.

Once. So, yeah. Anyways, listen, I don't want to go without saying about your experience, Sean. So you had a Shadow Man experience. Is it one or many? I've had a couple. Like, yeah. Before you get into it, tell me, do you view it as one haunting you or you've had bad luck and you run into multiple?

I don't know because like even to this day, like I have these like, and it got me actually thinking more about this when I was listening to a couple of your shows. Like I have a lot of these like corner eyes. I, like, in the you turn, and when I see it, like, it's not just like a, like, oh, it's a lamp. It looks like a full figure, like, on the side. And it just kind of appears every now and then. But the first time that happened, like, I was just, you know, with my friends, I was probably like about 12, 13, maybe 14-ish, somewhere around that age. We were all just kind of, back then, we used to break dance.

So, you know, we were like, breakdancing out of our friends, I had a little knowing about, you know what I mean? Like, part of board. Yeah. And we're all outside. there was this abandoned house across the way. And, you know, like, we used to mess with a lot of abandoned houses. Like, you know, going there, like, I do great stuff. You know what I mean?

Like, hey, let's break a window. Like, whatever. And we kind of like, we're messing with this one house, but we would go back and forth. But at this time, we were just breakdancing in front of it. And I heard something. And I was like, hey, what was that? And I look. And probably from right here, like, I don't know, I would say, like, maybe 10, 15 feet.

From the bushes, I just see something pop up. Like, it looked like a good. exactly that this one looked exactly like a silhouette. Whoa. Like it looked like almost like like one of those like black holes. Like there was no description of it. Like out of the bush? Like pop that?

Like up like right behind from the bush. Or did it just pop up and see? Like it looked at the ground. Like yeah. And it looked like just like staring at me. And I was like, what the heck? And then I was like, whoa. And I was trying to go grab somebody because I was like,

someone else has to see this. And then when we go and we go, then we go. Was it wearing a black suit? I don't know. We're not going there. You're not going there. But we walked all the way around there. Obviously, nobody's seen anything except me.

And then, like I said, I would see a lot of, you know, like things in the side of my eyes. And then fast forward, probably like maybe 15 years later. Like, I was down, like, almost 30, maybe like mid to late 20s. And I'm going to Insanao of Mexico. And on our route, we just go there. Nothing, no drinking, no anything. We just barely got snowed. Not that I remember.

But I was drunk the whole time. No. We had just got there. We were just at our friend's house because they have a house out there. And we just got there. We're like after work. Like, oh, we're tired. Let's get everything.

All right, man. Like, see you in the morning. But then we're going to get you. I go to lay down in this room. I turn off the light and I just feel whack right in the middle of my back. And I was like, man, man, man. Like, you know, I'm tired. I'm mad.

I flip on the light. and to the side of the bed I look and I see like what looks to me as a shadow old man like Are you serious? Yeah like Yeah like wow Beard I haven't heard any of this by the way Like literally like like

So detailed like it almost looked like Like I could see like the the wrinkles in this like But not skin but like it's like just so weird It's like a silhouette but like literally like I could tell that Had a beard and wrinkles and I'm just like And where was he at? Like on the corner of the bed Like just like on the side of the bed

Not on the side because it was like almost exactly from where this bench is to the wall like that much space and I was just like whoa and I was like all right man because I always have this like mentality of like well I'm just gonna go to sleep then like because there's no one's gonna like

I didn't wake any because I went out there and everybody was sleep and I just turned it off and I've seen stuff like that another time that I seen it's a different type of shadowy I was kind of in laying down and my friends he had like a little back house and like he went to the front room so I was like I don't go sleep

and I turn off the lights and I see what looks to be like eight feet tall but like this one wasn't a shadow figure because this was a little bit different and it was just see-through but it had these like beady red eyes like I was like whoa man

and when I turn the light it went away and then like I just what I do is I hide myself up and then like I'll be like I'm scared that thing I'll beat it up you know what I mean like you got your but like it really trip yourself out yeah but now I honestly

now, like, and I'm not maybe necessarily on the level of you guys. Like, I think a lot differently. Like, not differently, but I have my own beliefs on what I believe God is. And I really feel protected. Like, I don't really sweat it. Like, I go, like, someone told me that one of my exes had put a spell on me. She told them, like, oh, I put a curse on it. They put a hex or whatever.

And I was like, dude, that's cheap parlor tricks compared to the guy I got. Like, you know what I mean? It's not going to work. And now, but at the time, if you told me that, like, 20 years ago, I'll be like, oh man like, what are we gonna do? What do I got to eat to reverse?

Yeah. So like now I just kind of see things from time to time in the side of my vision and I just kind of like, well, just keep going. Like they can't hurt me.

That's how I look at it as. You can't do anything to me. And I remember like listening back in, when I was a kid too, about like AM radio. I want to say, not KFI, but something like that.

And they were talking about how shadow people live. in these dimensions, like, when the lights, like, the dimension of, like, how light flicker. So that they're in these, like, parallel dimensions with us that, like, and when it sets right, that that's how they appear. That's supposedly what I heard, like, how it's... But, you know, they're cool.

They're cool. You got a passenger. He's cool. He's cool. That's what it is, you know? He's slapsed here once in a while. You can't hurt me, but the slap hurt a little bit. Yeah, I believe he can't hurt me.

That was the only time. that I ever got that I had physical. And I don't know if that was like, a lot of people tell me in Mexico, there's a lot of different things that do happen. And we were deep into Mexico.

We weren't staying at like the most, the hotels. We were in the city of where, it was pretty weird though. I would say like, uh, it heard like, like,

it was pretty hard. Like, it wasn't like a little, like, it was like, that's hard. Was he rubbing the bedding? Oh,

he was just like, he was just like, he was just crouched down, like, looking at me. And I was just, like, a little bit of a time where we're just like

and I'm like, well, I don't know what to do, man. Like, I really didn't know what to do because I was like, and I was like, just go back to sleep. Because at the time, I was like, maybe I'm just tripping. Like, maybe I'm tired too, but I was the only thing that got me was I'm like, there's no way. How did I feel that hit? Because I didn't fall, but everybody goes,

ah, you were probably dreaming. You know what I mean? Like, nobody believed me. So I was just like, I don't know. I'll go to the confession. I don't believe me. Yeah, that's interesting. Now, when you were describing the first account with the guy that happened,

I don't have the shadow figure that popped out of the bush, for whatever reason, just popped in my head. Maybe because the way you said it, you said it popped out in my head, but the first thing I thought of was, like, it's shooting out of the bush and up. And that maybe give me the mental image of what's his face. And drawn in blank, he just had their concert where everybody died. And he, Trapp Scott. Trapp Scott.

Yeah. All those black entities that were you see in the crowd and stuff like that. Like, to me, I was like, Like, that's what I started thinking about and stuff. Did it, you saw those videos that? Yeah. Did it look similar to that at all or no? Similar, but like, you know what it kind of looked like?

You know how the little, uh, the little logo for big pens? Yeah. That's kind of how it looked. Okay. Like, that was the best way I could. Way more defined. Yeah, not the first one. The first one was just almost exactly like that.

Like, almost looked like just a trace out of like a human, like, just like that big pin character. The next one was crazy. That's the craziest thing I've ever seen. I was just like, man, dude, like, man, let's go sleep. That one was pretty interesting because I never, it was so detailed, like, where I could tell his, and it almost looked like he was sad. Because I could tell it was a man, too.

Like, I could tell this was a man, a old man, and it looked sad. So I was like, is this a demon? I mean, not a demon, but there's some kind of spirit, some kind of, like, purgatory situation where they're stuck here. And, like, he's just trying to get my attention. and because he didn't he could have continuously scared me i would think you know like if he wanted to but it's like he wanted my attention and then he just sat there and it was almost like he was crying like i said like real sorrow like maybe he didn't he said sorry yeah

sorry you were someone else every time i see a green go you know that's what got me here to begin with you know yeah the wrong green going you know oh man i love hanging out with you guys. Let's wrap this up. I know you got to start driving. How long as you drive? Eight hours to Michigan. That's the next song. Eight hours to Michigan. Oh man, what a good song that is. Anyways, just let's remind people while we're here, though, let them know what we got going on for this next film and stuff. You are coming out with an album that has been written for this film. 30 hours to Utah is one of the titles. Something Mesa. What was that one?

Lights on the Mesa. Lights on the Mesa. And that one, that one, that one you finished. It's done, yeah. You said you were writing one more at the time of this recording. I got one more. Did you write it already? It's in the process.

Okay, got so the instrumental is done and it was actually made by Bo Standing Rock, who we all know from being out there in Utah. And I believe he's been on a show too as well. Not yet. So going to be. Yeah, so the audience is listening right now, Bo Standing Rock is a native that, contacting me.

He lives very close to the ranch and we met him. We hung out with him for several days and they are in for a very mind-blowing encounter stories with him.

He has been tied up in something that I think is actually way more. Let me put this way. When I sat down to record with him I believe we did that before went to Utah with you guys. You did. Yeah.

So I think that's why I thought that it was out. I've been holding on. Gotcha. So he told me this stuff and I was like, whoa, crazy, you know? And I'm just like, I think I even told him afterwards. I'm like, dude, like, don't, don't venture into the comments section when I post this. Right. There's going to be people that are going to be mean about and all that stuff.

But I can tell people that after this trip, meeting that DOD officer, meeting these different people who have been very connected to the location. in a very deep, intimate way, governmental type situation, the things that Christian has been uncovering with this research and the hidden agendas of this area, not just the ranch, but the area, what's going on and stuff,

I think if people are going to be like, whoa, maybe Bo actually was actually tied up in more of a cover-up in the sense of a manipulative cover-up. Yeah. I really think that if you look at it in that life, it's scary. I think that what he encountered the one night will be,

it's crazy, it's scary. If you, if you, you can go along and say, if that's true, that's crazy scary, right? Yeah. But what he described was these rake creatures, chasing after a group of people.

And he kind of got caught up in the mix. And then the other group of people that contacted him after this event happened, everybody escaped telling him to arrive at this location a certain time and what happened with those creatures like to me that aspect those that those new characters that popped up those guys might have some serious connections to the manipulative cover-up of that area i think so too especially after he told the story while we were there too because he told it yeah and i think the same thing and you know we don't want to give too much away because i want him to tell the story yeah but i believe it like i don't I'm telling you right now.

Like, I don't think he's, especially meeting him face to face. It's kind of like meeting Kyle face to face when we were in Kentucky. And you just get a sense from somebody like, hey, this guy's probably telling the truth. There's a certain genuineness that people bring to the table unless they're just, you know, great scam artists. But yeah, I think he, I think Bo is definitely telling the truth, in my opinion. Yeah, I do too. Anyways, got off on that. So reeling it back, that's both standing rock.

People are going to be familiar with him from the film and also the interview that I've done with him down the road here. Sometimes it's here in the fall when we're getting closer to the release of the film. Yeah. But he produced the instrumental for the song that you're working on. Yeah, the last track for this soundtrack slash album. So he did it. It's really good.

It's got a lot of Native American vibes, which I asked for, because he's got a good feel for that stuff. Since he's Native American. Which for sure. for sure for sure good dude though man a really good dude and you know he was really cool to hang out when we were there um he's got a lot of great stuff to bring to the table and he's great artist so there's that too yeah awesome uh so the the album is coming out then uh so people can really look forward to that whole idea where we are now going to along with our films be coming out

with uh the film's album uh we call it soundtrack i so i call it album just for for familiarity purpose. It's a collection of songs that were done for the film and every film we come out with. It's going to be, have something connected to that until Joel loses his voice and forgets how to write or something. I don't know. But anyways, I'm really excited about it. And before we get out of here, tell everybody again where they can find all your stuff. Yeah. You can find me at Link Tree slash Van Tessler Music. That'll just get you to everything. Literally, all the music, podcasts, any podcast I've guest featured on. You can get to that point too.

If you're just looking for me on my Instagram or YouTube, it's just dance of the music. It's the same thing. It's pretty much across the board. I'm also on and you can take it away shot. Kill the Mockingbirds. You could catch us on every platform, you know, wherever it's at. Or go to Operation Kill the Mockingbirds on Instagram

or check out our Kill the Mockingbirds telegram page. Awesome, guys. Well, I appreciate you coming in and sharing your experiences, sharing your thoughts and heretical theories. I'm sure they'll get worked out. I'm sure. But hey, guys, don't email me about it. He said it.

Email him. He just told you how to get a hold of him, get a hold of him, and tell him how much you hate him. You know, like, geez. I'm not the messenger. I'm not the middleman here. But anyways, I really do appreciate everybody hanging out, listening to this episode.

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