The Confessionals - 478: New World Order's Most Hunted Journalist | Shepard Ambellas

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

In Episode 478: New World Order's Most Hunted Journalist, we are joined by legendary journalist Shepard Ambellas. Shepard runs intellihub.news, which was at one time one of the most trafficked websites on the internet. That all changed when he started digging into stories that put a target on his back (literally), and flipped his life upside down and on the run.Shepard was turned on to The Confessionals by a friend who wanted him to listen to a fan favorite episode, #122: Secret Military Enochian Technology. He was so impressed by the story he wrote an article about it and posted it on intellihub. That article got over 6,000 shares and made its way back to us. We were able to connect with Shep about coming on The Confessionals.It turns out Shepard has had lots of paranormal experiences along with his life of extreme journalism. In this jam-packed episode that runs in to Overtime, Shep shares his run-ins with the paranormal and his life on the run from the New World Order. In the first two hours, he shares how he had three extremely up close and personal encounters with UFOs, two of those encounters occurring with friends from high school. He also had what he knows now to be a dogman encounter that was within six feet of him during a camping excursion. In another two-hours Overtime segment, Shep discusses the time he stumbled into an underground vampire coven, and tells us all about how he has fled the United States after multiple experiences of people chasing him down for the information he was releasing to the world. Shep believes Planet X is coming, and the information he shared about it has almost gotten him killed multiple times.  Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSHEPARD AMBELLASIntellihub: www.intellihub.newsAmbellas Talk Network: www.atn.liveShep Shop: shepardambellas.comSPONSORSGET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tonyGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!!GET Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGET Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5GET ExpressVPN: www.expressvpn.com/confessCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaITikTok: @theconfessionalsDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - 30 Hours To Utah:YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RsKz1qSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3CS69IAApple Music: https://apple.co/3RAWgTXAre you a military veteran struggling with thoughts of suicide?Contact Watchman Readiness Corps for REAL help. A veteran-run organization that is designed to help through hands-on survival training.Website: wrc.vetEmail: [e-mail]: [phone]Instagram: wrc_survivalFacebook: colbywrcvet

Merkel Media This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill but no one was supposed to talk about it I saw three long, boning fingers reach up underneath the door curl up to grab it and then disappear

When he came over to me Dude he slithered over to me And this giant comes out of the cave And they're all frozen And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. I feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two

small gray entities. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. It's pushed and I touch air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing A monster. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you've a crazy, wild experience, you want to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email.

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about to hear. We have Shepard Imbalis on the show. Listen, Shepard Mbales at one time owned one of the biggest websites in the world. And then his life got flipped upside down, and he's on the run. He literally is being hunted by the New World Order, and he had to leave the country because of it. Now, that said, I want to encourage everybody to listen to this episode, fall in love with Shep, and go follow him on his website, intelhub. News, and on his social medias, which will be linked in the description below. He says on this episode that he's being shadow banned. I want to prove him wrong.

I want everybody to go follow Shep and Bollas on his social media, Twitter and Instagram, right as you listen to this show. Like I said, the links are in description below. Also, check out his shop, shepherdembalus.com. That's shepherdembalus.com. There you can get all his gear. And he's also a musician. I don't think we talked about that on this episode. Check out some of his music. His latest album is called Gangstocker 2.0. G, I wonder why. Maybe because he's experiencing it firsthand. I'm telling you, friends, this is a fantastic episode. In the first half, we're going to talk about his paranormal encounters, which are a jaw-dropping. And then in the second half, the overtime, we're going to get into the more sensitive information as to why he's being tracked down and hunted by the New World Order.

Okay, today we got a truly special guest on the show, Shepard and Ballas. How you doing, man? And how are you better? I'm doing good. So listen, we were just talking and I was about to say something to you that I didn't want to say in private. I wanted to say in front of everybody because it's really, it's, I cannot believe that you listen to my show. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah.

Now, I guess it was, now what's weird about this story is, for some reason, for a long while, you were off my radar. Like, they weren't displayed, you know how this works. Like, they got a shadow band,

anything that has good information, right? So you weren't on. like my channels and I guess it was around the the Brianna Taylor protest era because I was in Louisville at the time I was stuck in Marshall Law reporting over there from my first film and I was with Aaron Cole who was helping me he's my one of my co-hosts on the Shepard Ambellish show along with Bethany Adani and he was helping me do the film and he goes dude we got to listen to this podcast. I listen to it all the time. And he decides to put on, we're like driving in between New York and Louisville. And he puts the episode on with the Enokian technology.

And it just blew my mind because the way the guy described it and his, His whole story was just like, you couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. And so that really grabbed me. And I was fascinated. And I started listening to a lot more of the podcast since. And I love the show, man. Yeah, great job. And also the Hammer Lane Legends is a great show as well.

Jeez, man. That's crazy. Like, all right. So shout out to your friend who got this whole thing going. because I let me tell the audience so Shep if anybody

doesn't know who you are you're you found it intelahub.com right or intelhub.new news no intelhub dot it was

it originally was the Intelhub dot com and I had some issues with that so

it changed to Intelahub com and now it's Intellahub. News because over this there's a whole long story we could go into a diatribe but it's been pretty crazy. At one time Intelhub

com and Intelhub and the intelhub.com were some of the biggest websites in the world ranked in the upper 1% traffic tier on the World Wide Web. I think they went

between like 5,5,7,500 on Alexa World, which puts it in the upper 1,000th percent of the first 1% of the traffic tier. Wow. And that was all done organically. But since then, you know,

I'm going to say I was one of the world's first shadow band people because I was shadow man in 20, 2012 after Builderberg. And my first film Shade the Motion Picture. We made that. And it had the Bilderberg stuff in it and everything. And those Bilderbergers didn't like that at the time.

So it prompted them to, I literally haven't gained any followers on Facebook or Twitter in the last decade. and Tony, I go on coast-to-coast AM with George Noree. I'm on a travel channel with 83 million viewers in America Declassified. You know, I used to go on the Alex Jones show in studio. My reports are on Dredge report regularly.

You know, back in the day, I don't really, I haven't been doing a lot of journalism, stuff like this. But yet what? You don't gain one follower. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. As somebody who isn't, I don't believe I'm Shadow Band. Maybe I will be after talking to you.

Who knows? We will see. Oh, I did all start. Let's hope not. But I can tell you, I mean, I gain followers every day. And the confessionals is not even close to the size that your website was at one point. And so. well Tony think about this

you know a website of that stature that Intel Hub used to be it you know I could have for instance I could put a banner up at the top I could say hey everyone click on this and follow

follow me on Twitter or whatever I mean it's like you know obviously I could drive like major traffic right to the the social media if I wanted to and I have done that And still, you know, nope, nothing really changes on that. You know, it's almost like I dwindle. And it's just, yeah, it's almost crazy. But I still do it, I guess, out of fun. But it's really not even productive for me to do it.

And I kind of just do it to do it. But it's really pointless and it's a waste of time because essentially they've got me fully censored now. it's incredible man I so I to just like because what you're saying is that the website's more for fun these days for you is that what you're saying

well I decided to crank it up recently I'm going to go try and ramp this shit up because I got a second win but dude they wore me out I mean I don't know if people know what it really takes to do it at the level like I'm not saying like I'm not trying

to brag or say anything it's just like when you have operations and they're of a certain magnitude, there's a lot that goes along with that. And they've ramped up their targeting operations over the years. And I've always tucked and rolled and maneuvered and dodged. And I've been real flexible. And because of my flexibility and my adaptability. ability and my adaptability. I've been able to continue on at all times.

And they don't like that. But let me tell you something. It's been fairly brutal. But I got my second win. So now I'm getting to go all out. Well, that's encouraging to hear because I'll tell you, I just want to tell the audience and you, like, I found out, I've, the first time,

I ever heard of you was when I was driving truck still and I was podcasting, but I was driving truck and I was listening to Clyde Lewis and he had you on. And I remember him talking about your website and I forget what you guys were talking about, but I remember, like, I don't do this with everybody. The different movements or something like that. We used to talk about a lot. Jade Helm, stuff like that. Yeah. So it was something that really got me going and I started like looking at the website and everything like that. And so. When you, when your website in Telehub. News shared the Inocan technology episode 122,

like we found out because it was sent to us by a lot of people. And it was just like we picked up so much traction on different platforms because you posted that episode. And it was, that episode was years old at that point. And so it was very apparent that it was coming from, you. And I remember posting it. Like I retweeted it or something. And then you comment and saying, hey, let's do something. Like, holy crap. Let's go. And that was a while ago, man. It took us a while to get this thing going. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're busy. You're doing your thing. I'm doing my thing. But it's cool to, you know, get together join forces. I saw you go on Tripoli. You know,

Sam's a friend of mine as well. Yeah. Yeah, it's just, it's good to keep this all going. And I went on a, I've been so targeted that I basically went nearly dark with all my contacts and going on podcasts and shows. I popped on like coast to coast a couple times. And, you know, just like a couple shows. but like I'm trying to stay, I've been trying to stay like low-key for a while. But like I said, I'm coming out now.

I got that network going and my show is five days a week now, live. And so I'm just like kind of back in that groove. And I'm just going to make a push to basically dominate the new world order. Awesome. Listen, that you get me, listen, when I hear you talk, man, you get me all excited. I'm getting really riled up right now. And the audience is like, yes, keep doing it because we like Tony getting riled up. So let's take you when you're energetic like that.

Yeah. So let's not just brush over this, though, because you just recently launched Embalice Talk Network, ATN, and it's atn. And it's what? It's an online radio station, right? Right. So, you know, with the way, well, season two of my, show, I came out and we got to episode 10 and then they banned it on. And I'm like, okay, well,

obviously we can't do another show because they're just going to keep pulling them. I think they like pulled a couple other ones or something, but they hit me with a strike. And I said, well, also, I don't care about YouTube. I have evidence I could show you that would blow your mind of what they've done to my YouTube channel. But like behind the scenes, we could look at it sometime. It's crazy. I've found some statistics.

But, you know, why burn the YouTube channel down and just let it go by the wayside because, you know, maybe there's a way I can use it to some extent. So I, and, and then there's this, like, who cares about all these third-party platforms? Like, all of these platforms

eventually will be owned by BlackRock and Van Darden theoretically. So, you know, there's just going to be no, they're just wendling, like, you know, these truthers, they'll get on new platforms, and then that platform will go by the wayside. So third party is a little bit dangerous. So I set up the network, and then that way we can run everything and it's uncensored and we're good to go. and then as everything else collapses, you know,

that will take hold hopefully. So like I'm just hoping that it's kind of like the, Noah's arc of the radio or, you know, I mean, I think everyone should do this and get like backup things going. You know, anyone that's like a predominant YouTuber

that's putting on a lot of broadcasts or podcaster, you know, start thinking about getting your own streams going. so that there's ways for people off these third-party platforms to pick up your broadcast. Yeah, I absolutely agree. I actually, let's see here. This 2022, so last year, in the beginning of last year, I had started briefly a show called Rage Against Astopi.

It was just basically me venting and being pissed off for once a week. And it took too much energy and time to plan, so I dropped it. but the original intent of that was to have my, I actually purchased my own online radio station and I was going to broadcast only through there. I wasn't even going to promote it anywhere. I was not interested in promoting. I was just going to let it exist.

That way it just was kind of flying under the radar. But then that kind of fell through and stuff because I just didn't have the time to keep up with it. But I totally understand the idea of having something else to back things up. And the thing is, it's just like, it doesn't matter what we do as far as trying to prevent things at some point if they want to they're going to attack it's like even today i mean like

you and i were scheduled to do this and we're doing it but it almost didn't happen because another attack came through on you and you know it was just like hey man i don't know if i can do the show today because things are crazy around here and then i called you and sweet talked you into talking to me so yeah i figured you know what i deal with this shit every day anyways, but yeah, I mean, when we get into the targeting, I can break down some of the real deal targeting operations and how and why

they do it or whatever. But yeah, there's real deal targeting and they're using private companies in a lot of cases to do it and carried out. And then the elite in turn own these private companies, which makes them privy to insider dossier type information that gangstockers and targeting agents and officers conduct,

and also U.S. tax dollars through the CIA and other programs, they hire private targeting companies, which are linked to fusion centers and all sorts of stuff like that, and basically go out to criminals. They've blackmailed and certain people that do gang-stalking activities and conduct operations, and they use tax dollars to do it. And then that funnels those tax dollars into the coffers of their organization. Man. All right. Well, what we're going to do, I want to let the audience know we're 15 minutes in this random,

just talking back and forth thing. We do have a goal in a direction for today's show. So I want to let the people know this is going to be an overtime show. I have no idea how long the overtime is going to be. we're going to go in on things that, you know, are more sensitive information that we're putting up for the overtime for the members. But you have some, well, quite a few paranormal type topics to talk about. I was actually stunned by some of them.

So I wanted to the audience know kind of the direction we're going. And then we'll get crack in here on some of these things. So you said you weren't sure in the beginning, like if we wanted to kind of, if we wanted to hit on this first or what, but we'll probably will. We'll talk about the three entities when you, were younger around four. But then you also have three extremely close encounters, two were with high school friends, a dogman experience. And what I find very interesting is the vampire coven where you were lured into a coven in a nightclub deep underground.

And I was just like, what the heck? And so I was like, the life of Shep and Bellis is amazing. Let's go. And I didn't even tell you the half of it, because these are the only things I'm talking about right now but um dude um i've had a strange life um when i was um when i was younger you know i was born in a little rock arkansas and

if anyone knows anything about little rock you know i lived in west little rock and if you've seen the documentary banging in little rock this was you know in the early 80s probably around like 82. So it was basically like, if you imagine Compton, California, that's my neighborhood.

And, you know, they used to have gun fights out front. My grandma's car had bullet holes in it. I've witnessed a full-on breakdancer crews, like have breakoffs on like six-foot by six-foot pieces of linoleum playing Houdini's Jam on it, you know, when that was hot. So, like, that's the era.

We lived at my grandma's house, and it was set up like a duplex. It was actually my aunt's house, but my grandma stayed there as well. And then we had half of it in, you know, my mom and dad and I, and I was real young. I think I was about four at the time. maybe like three and a half is or just about four and um i went to sleep one night um woke up in the middle of the night and i slept by this window that was facing the front street which there was a lot of gang activity and shit going on if you can imagine south central los angeles that

one in the morning that is the sounds that are emitting from outside right there, there's barred windows. You know, there's people walking by with ghetto blasters on their shoulders.

Obviously, like probably drug activity going on, stuff like that. And so I wake up in the middle of the night and I look over toward my closet and I had a fairly big room. And there's what at the time I thought were three ghosts or I guess they could have been ghosts. You know, I'm pretty sure they were something.

So I'm going to call them three entities. And, you know, the way they appeared to me was almost like your classic like Scooby-Doo, like a cartoon type ghost the kind with like the white sheet type thing but but not really

but they kind of appeared to be fink white like that not totally ghostly but not totally materialized is how I remember it and

there was more detail. It was like they were hooded or something, but basically my mind at the time at that age, I took it you know, like I tried to explain it to my mom. Like it was like those ghosts, you know, like that type

that you see on my cartoons. And so it's what happened was I got so scared that I was basically just like merely frozen in fear, you know? And I was debating whether I should like, do I run into my parents which was down the hall.

So I would have to run out the door of my bedroom. And to do that, I have to run by the ghosts. And it took a lot of courage. And I built up the courage. And the ghosts were still there after minutes. And I ran by them. And I ran down the hall. And I got my mom.

And I said, you know, hey, there's ghosts in my room or something. And, you know, I remember this. I was like, you know, telling her, like, she's like, oh, there's no ghosts in there. She's like walking me back down the hall, and I didn't even want to go back in that room. And I thought it was crazy, right? And I'm like, no.

And I think I, like, even close my eyes, like when I was entering the room, and she, like, pulled me over toward the bed and, like, put me back down. She's like, you know, there's no ghosts. And you probably, like, had a dream. Or, you know, she's telling me all this general stuff, like a mother would tell their kid, I'm sure, to comfort them.

And after like, probably like, I don't know, five, eight minutes or something, I built up enough courage. And she had talked me into it. And she's like, you know, see, you know, you can look over there now. You know, she's probably trying to get back to bed or something. So she's like trying to talk me out of it. And she's like, you know, there's no ghost. See, you know.

And I'm like, oh, really, you know. And so like open my eyes and like look into the room and these entities, they're still there. And she's not seeing them. And that's when I just like, I was so scared. I remember turning my back to those ghosts or those entities and facing toward the window. And literally basically just laying there and fear the rest of the night awake. and so that was my first, like, you know, strange thing that happened. That's got to be terrifying as a kid to run to mom for safety.

Mom says, no, there's nothing there. She walks you back and she doesn't see what's still there in the room. Yeah, you know, that was, that was, I clearly remember this and I know I wasn't hallucinating it. But like I said, it was like some minutes that it took her to talk me through this and I built up the courage to look. And of course, these things are supposed to be gone and they're not there. But no, they were still there. Yeah. And that was, that's tripped me out throughout the years, you know, when I think back on this, because this has come up. I mean, like, I've talked about this with my mom and dad. And it's come up in my mind over the years quite a bit. but yeah i mean like they were still there that's crazy yeah it's definitely crazy uh do you think that was a a situation i got sometimes i talk about it on the show where i wonder if there was like marker points in people's lives that uh kind of marked them or was a sign of things to come do you think like early on you're like four years old around that age i mean do you think that was like

whatever that was was almost like an omen for the rest of your life because i mean your life has turned into something that should be made into movies? Well, I didn't know it at the time, you know. But now that I look back on it, I'm starting to question some of that and trying to really dig in and remember that even more. It would definitely was a marker, but I don't think it was a marker, but I don't think it was like a it could potentially be part of the same series of events that have happened in my life or um you know maybe i'm just acceptable to certain things or something but yeah it definitely

obviously was like some type of um marker i just don't know if it's um i'm starting to think that that could be connected to some of this other stuff but um i've just now kind of come to that realization that that's possible. Well, I definitely think it's possible and in some cases probable. And so maybe we'll have a better clear image and understanding as we get to know you on the paranormal end of things. I've never heard you talk about paranormal things before. So this is all new to me.

I don't know if you've been on other people like coast to coast talking about this stuff, but this is all very new to me. So I haven't really told anyone this. this type of stuff. I mean, everybody knows you for the other stuff. They're like, hey, tell me about how you're being hunted right now. Because right now, you're like one of the most hunted, if not the most hunted journalist in the world. And so

it's one of those things where people want to talk to you about that stuff. I'm like, yo, how about we talk about your dog man encounter, you know? Yeah, that's cool. I think this would be great. And, you know, maybe it helps some people piece some things together or maybe

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slash confess. And you can get an extra three months free on a one-year package. That's e-X-P-R-E-S-S-V-S-V-P-N.com slash confess expressvPN.com slash confess to learn more. Let's move into the close encounters and two of them with high school friends. And when you said close encounters, just so people understand, like, you mean, you told me like basically a list of things that you could talk about. And that's all I know going into this. I like it that way. And so when you say close encounters, are you talking about more like extraterrestrial type close encounters?

Well, we can get into it, I guess. So, yeah, really extremely close encounters to the point of when you see, well, you know, I guess let's just get into the stories so we can just go through it in sequence. I was about 15 years old, and we moved that summer. I guess, let's see, I guess I just would have turned about 15. So over the summer, we moved to a different county in Washington State and a town, and it was more out of the city.

And, you know, I didn't know what to expect or anything. and I didn't have any friends there or know anyone. And since it was in the summer, I didn't know anyone. And I would walk around my neighborhood with my parents, and we would check it out. And there would be, like, kids my age and stuff. And, you know, so I knew, well, there's some kids that live around here. Maybe I can make some friends or something.

And I started hanging out with a couple of the local kids before school, started the next year. And then I got enrolled in school and I somehow met up with these a couple of friends of mine ended up being into motorcycle racing and motocross and I got into that and started training and learning how to ride

and all that. And I was real active in that. And I guess it was about halfway through that school year. I was slothed. sleeping one night. And outside my, well, let me back up. Before that, one of my dad's friends, someone he had met, that he had, I think the guy was like a painter, and he had done some work at our house. And he got to talking with my dad. And somehow it came out that his daughter had seen a

UFO with their friends, like right in the neighborhood. And my dad and I are fascinated with UFOs, and we always have been. We've lived in, like, I lived in Gulf Breeze, Florida, where the Gulf Breeze UFO cases happen. And I guess because of that, and we heard about that, like, we got into UFOs a little bit. And, you know, it was a thing you'd see, like, on Unsolved Mysteries. It's not like I was, like, way into it. But like I was aware there's UFOs.

There's this thing called UFOs. You know, are they government? You know, how are they hiding it from us? I would watch these crazy shows back in the 80s when I was a kid. And they talked about feeding that alien strawberry ice cream and all this propaganda stuff, probably, you know, anything like that. But I wasn't like a UFO buff or anything. I just thought it was like fascinating. And so we heard that, you know, other people in neighborhoods saw UFOs.

So one night I was sleeping and I was about 15. And I woke up, something woke me up, and I looked out my window because the blinds were open. and I had those many blinds and they were open and there was a tree out in our front yard and I would say the tree was 25 feet away from my window and I was another 8 feet back from the window where my bed was or whatever

so I saw these lights swirling in the yard and I woke up it wasn't a dream this was really going on and I was kind of like well this is like weird like what the heck um and all of a sudden this this like around what i'm going to say was like an alien probe or i mean it's not like it was i'm going to say it was a alien probe it was a alien probe it was my best guess um it was about two and a half to three feet in diameter i could tell that because i could easily scale it because when it it came from left to right to

into my window and it was in between the tree and my window. So it's real easy for me to say, you know, it's one thing if someone says they seem like an alien probe, it's like a round sphere, it's metallic and it's floating in the sky. I mean, it might be like a mile back. I mean, like we don't know. This thing was in my front yard, okay? There was light swirling in my front yard. it moves into in front of the tree

and I remember exactly thinking holy shit that's a UFO right so like my mind at that point I saw metal I saw that it's in front of that tree

I saw swirling lights and there was I don't I don't know if there was sound but something woke me up so I'm assuming sound woke me up or

maybe just the bright light. I don't know. I don't remember sound during this, but I remember, holy shit, that's a UFO. And the second that I thought that that thing,

you know, veered about three foot over in my window and it was about halfway in between the tree in my window, and it shot a blue beam into me. But see,

at the same time, about, I forgot to tell this part, when I was approaching the part where I go, holy crap, that's a UFO, I was already in the process of sitting up because I was so stunned. So I was basically at a 45-degree angle in my bed. And I got hit with this blue light came right through my window,

and it paralyzed me. And it paralyzed me. It was like the worst thing you could imagine. If people have experienced sleep paralysis, I imagine this is far different. It was like I was frozen into a block of ice. And as if my body, I was so scared and terrified and I was so alert of what's going on in my mind. And I was like, that's a UFO. Boom, got hit with that light.

every part of my body and I was at a 45 degree angle was completely paralyzed and stopped and frozen. Yet my mind was so full on that I remember thinking like, I got a move like, ah! Like I'm using every bit of brain processing power and muscle and fiber and couldn't even twitch a hair on my brain. body couldn't even move one muscle but it but but it was like you just wanted to jump out of your body or skin from the horror of this and then that's all i remember and then i remember being back in my bed and that wasn't happening now keep in mind i'm 15 years old and I was a fully functional

15 year old like full on almost like adult like I was riding motorcross I was you know I was able to go tens of miles from the house at age 15 you know like anything I wanted to do

I mean well I mean at even like age 9 or something you know so like I was I was not really scared of anything. I was a very ballsy kid that was always in competition with my friends that were adrenaline junkies and we'd always be trying to do, you know, I felt like I was one of the first like free runners or parkour type people or like Travis Pastrana's. You know, like we were experimenting with stuff like this.

not quite to suit ultra extreme levels at the age 15, but at 16 and 17, like it got pretty crazy. But, you know, I wasn't scared of anything. Well, I was so terrified that I went into my parents' room.

And I, and I'm like telling my parents, like, in the middle of the night, I'm like, I'm sleeping right here. Like, I grabbed my blanket.

I slept, like, right on the floor. I told them I was like scared shitless. I don't think they're, were listening to me. I woke up the next morning. I was on the floor. I remembered all this. And so for me to be that terrifying and do that, like, is pretty odd. You know, so like, something definitely occurred. That is terrifying. And that was your first close encounter.

And that was happening right at the time that you guys were hearing about these sightings and stuff. Do you, did you ever, I mean, all right, well, I guess maybe this will fill in with the next two experiences. But my thought was, you know, were there other people talking about this stuff happening? I mean, were there kids at school talking about seeing things like this and this happening to them? I'm curious as to if this was a target of you or a target of the local people or what. Okay, so what I didn't tell you yet is prior to that, my dad was like a handyman type dude right so he had his own like handyman thing going on and some lady on the back road president point road off of Jefferson Point this is in Kingston Washington

had called for him to do work on the property like repair and painting and cleaning and yard you know I don't know, I think they were like remodeling or something. And I, because I showed up and I got access to this property because of this. And so it ended up being this place that this lady had took over from the military or bought in an auction or something like that. And it was a naval degossing station where they demagnetized military ships. so that mines don't stick to them, supposedly. And there was, I got to go on to that property when my dad did that job. And I remember like tripping on it.

And I remember my dad asking some questions. And I think that we were talking about it. And it seemed odd that the military had that. And there were railroad tracks that like went out into the water from there. And I thought that was real weird. And so jumping forward later, years later, one of my friends, his dad was a ferry captain on those big Washington State fairies. And he knew all the depth charts and everything. And we ended up telling him all these UFO stories later, which I'm going to be telling about.

And that's how we got into this. And he said, well, you know there's a no-depth hole right off of Jefferson Point. right where that naval the gauzing station is. We're like no depth. He's like, yeah, dude, like, look it up on the tide charts. He goes, I'd known about this for a long time.

It means they have never found the bottom to that hole. Wow. Now, the military was there, and then this became a private installation. So, okay, then you asked, did kids talk about this stuff? So I became friends with a lot of the kids in the neighborhood and certainly we would hang around

and certain clicks. And some of those friends would hang around with some of the other friends, but then some of, you know, people wouldn't. And so you heard stories

through the great buying from your close friend that was hanging out with another friend. So my close friend, Roy, they had snuck out one night. And because,

like, we were all like hoodlooms and shit. Back then, you know, we would do like stupid shit. You know, go sneak out and drink or like,

you know, there was just like crazy shit going on. So, Um, we, uh, Roy told me, he said, uh, yeah, I was with Russell and them. And we were back on this, this, this one road. Back by the sand pits and all these, uh, lights started swirling around in the sky. And there was like this noise and, you know, they were like real scared by it.

They, um, because later on I talked to that Russell dude. And like, they, they were like, They were definitely like shooken up by it. And later we rehashed this story because of Roy was with me during one of the encounters. And Roy's family had encounters. So like as I started having more encounters, we started actually investigating this stuff. And it started getting like crazy.

But so we heard about, I heard about like Roy's story. And later on after, after some of these encounters, that I had, Roy started telling me about the encounters that his family had, but I'm going to tell him now because they preceded all of this stuff, you know, but I found out about him after my encounters, and his mom told me, his dad told me, his sister, so these things like happened. And one thing was Roy's dad was a metal worker in Seattle, and he had to ride the ferry across from Kingston to Seattle every morning at like 5 a.m. And he worked on those high roads.

He wouldn't come back. Oh, yeah, that's right. He wouldn't come back for the whole week. So he would stay over there in a hotel and then come back because that was like the way to do it. And so he left. It was a Monday morning because this would have been a Monday. because that's why he was leaving the house. And it was 4.30 in the morning.

He's leaving on that President Point Road, right where that Deghazi station is. Where he lived right where that Deghazi station is, but on the other side of the road from that, basically, and just like a 500 feet down or something like that, you know? And so his dad's pulling out of there. And he gets, he thinks, he's getting pulled over.

And, you know, it's 4.30 in the morning. This guy, he was a big drinker at night because he's a construction guy, but he's totally coherent in the morning and a full-on construction worker working on high-rise metal work in the day. So he's like not hallucinating or anything. But he's like, thinks he's getting pulled over. He sees these swirling lights and he actually pulls over. And then he's like, wait a minute.

like are these in the back of my truck like i don't see the cop car it's like what the hell and um and then he realizes like these lights are swirling like in the back of his truck whoa and it's just like yeah he just like floors it and gets out of there and you know i don't know if anything happened like with missing time or anything that's just basically how that story went now um roy and his sister and his mom, they all smoked cigarettes. We all smoked back in the day, like Camelites and all that.

Roy smoked Marble Reds. And his mom would even, like, buy him a cigarette. It was like, well known. Like, we smoked. So they would just go to the store for cigarettes and shit. Like the mom would just, like, buy them. And they go, I found out about this later,

but I talked to them all separately and they all tell the same story. They went to the store for cigarettes and it was Roy, his sister, and his mom and they're coming back to the house. And see, town was like seven miles away. So they go to the local little mark thing or whatever, come back

and they get to where the Gosling station is because they got to pass it to get to their house. And then their house is like just down the way and like on the other side of the road. When they get to that corner, they say that the whole car filled up with blue light. They all say this. The whole car filled up with blue light. And then they say they started like arguing like what is it, you know, like or something.

You know, like they remember like commotion. They were all like scared. And then the next thing they know, they were driving up their driveway. and they were like going in the house and they got home and, you know, I don't know the exact hours that they said, but basically, like if they went to the store at like 10.30 at night,

it was like 2.30 in the morning, all of a sudden. And they, and this just boggled them and bothered them. And this never came out until, even as Roy being my friend, until later when me and Roy had a major encounter. and then like we started investigating this shit but that's so those are are some of the

stories that went around in the area now another story that went around was set like about 17 miles to the west from there is this naval submarine base banger and banger Washington and a lot of the people that I talked to in the area thought that was like some secret underwater UFO base. So like people were like honing in on this. There was obviously some kind of talk and chatter. And I'm going to, I'm going to tell you a couple more encounters.

And then also there's the Sedona vortex encounter. We can talk about you might want to write that down. Yeah, I will. And then, okay, so the, it's speculated that this is like some kind of, of a joint alien human base and there's underwater activity there and it's a naval it's a nuclear submarine base i've heard that people have seen UFOs coming out of the water there you know so these are the kind of stories that that like i heard now um i was with my friend uh jeremiah one night

we were in my car i had a like a low rider with uh we had like a low rider with uh we had like a like a roadster wirewheels or something because like back then it was like we were in the era where it was like cool to have low riders and where I lived and I guess like rap music was at an all-time high you know it was like crazy time life was good yeah it was like it was interesting you know so so you know we're basically out late or something or something some reason, probably had school the next day. And we were driving back from town. Except I didn't, I decided not to veer off on this one road to the left, I guess to kill some more time or something before we went home or something like that.

Because I don't know why we would be going the way we were at the time we were. And I don't remember going to like a friend's house. So I'm thinking like we were going to just drive around. We were listening to music or something, and testing out the stereo a little bit longer. And then we were going to loop back and go home. And I started to make this curve on this road. And my friend Jeremiah was with me.

And Jeremiah and my friend Roy, who I was just telling you about and his family, we were all friends. So I was with Jeremiah. and we started to make this corner. We're probably doing about 50 miles an hour. I'll probably slow down to about 40. And as we start taking this rounding kind of corner to the right,

which would be to the west, and this road ends up heading due west, and it goes miles. And then there's like a tree line where evergreen trees start because it's the beginning of the sandbits where we used to ride and practice to race motocross for the racism. all that. So we were turning and we see flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash, flash,

to the left through the car window. And I know that I say we because I know that Jeremiah saw it too because I could see all my peripheral that he reacted with me and like turned at the same time. And I was basically like, what's that, you know? and it's like flash flash flash it's like super intense um what it ended up being is it ended up being a spherical UFO um that was just fully lit up so in this particular case i didn't i couldn't see any detail on the um on the craft or anything this was just fully super ultra bright 50 you know I'm going to say 50 to 100 foot in diameter sphere of light and what the flash was it was just it's because this thing was above the tree tops and as we were turning right around that corner to go down a straight road that obviously has no trees in front of it then and it's just a straight road.

for the next two miles before there's a wood line. The flash was because it was such intense light. It was coming down through the trees and the treetops that it was flashing. Every time like a tree would be in the way, it would block the light. But every time there was a gap opening, the light was so intense, it just looked like a strobe light. So it was ultra bright, right. And so we slow down for the corner a little, and then I start accelerating again for that long straightaway.

Probably, that's probably going to go like 60 or something. So I'm like driving about 50-ish. And this thing then is directly over the car. And I don't know that, but I kind of know that that's the angle it's going. And it's now flying parallel west down this road,

but it's directly over the car. And the whole car's lit up, but we can't see this thing. And then it's probably going about 100 miles an hour, and I'm going about 60. And there's no noise. It's 30 feet above the car. And now we can see it.

It's right above us. We start seeing it through the sunroof and through the front windshield. It's 30 feet above us. It's flying in this exact line of the road we're in. And it's flying double our speed. And it goes all the way down to the end of the road. And we get further down probably a half more mile or a mile. and then that thing crests over the tree line.

So 17 miles from there, I didn't think about this at the time. But this is going to be like key later. But I knew this and I kind of did think about it at the time, but I put a lot more together later. That exact road, if you follow that road, which you can't because there's trees, there. And if you're like on a Google map and you follow that road over exactly and you don't deviate off that road and you go like 15, 17 miles over, you literally end up exactly on this perfect like surveying platform at Naval submarine base banger where people say there's

UFOs entering and exiting the water. Wow. Now, I didn't find this out until I knew about that and it was in the back of my mind. But about, I'm going to say about five to six years ago, it dawned on me because of the next encounter that I'm going to tell you about, that that's an actual flight path. And so I got on Google Earth because of I've been privy to have two encounters that followed that same path because I'm going to tell you about another encounter and I can follow that road perfectly and it hits that base. I am now assuming that that's some type of planned flight path. So yeah, that's that.

And then so because of this experience, obviously me and my friend Jeremiah, we probably start talking to Roy. And we, in fact, we did. We had a meeting. And we had a meeting with all these people that we knew that saw UFOs, basically. We, you know, and this didn't come about. I mean, this happened because me and Roy and Jeremiah were talking about this. And we, I don't know if we necessarily like assembled a meeting per se, but we ended up like at a party or something.

like all like you know that it was like Russell was there it was like a group of people that knew like maybe like Roy's sister um and we started um saying look if this shit's real and we're like all seeing this then uh we need to be like vigilant and um we made this agreement that during the next thing that we see we're going to actually go toward it we're going to try to pursue it um you know like Like we're going to actively not be scared of it. We're going to like act on it. So I guess that was, I was probably about 16 when that last one happened because I was driving. So I'm going to say this next one was in 1995 of August.

I used to know the exact date, Tony. And since then, I've met people around the United States, started telling them about UFOs, and they were in this town that day, and they saw this thing too. Wow. Okay, now also during this encounter, my friend was with his girlfriend in another vehicle,

and they saw this at the same time. Me and my friend saw this. and we're going to talk about that. And I've also talked to them after. And I also talked to that one friend that was with his girlfriend in that car about a year ago. And we rehashed all the details. And so I also at one point looked up because I remembered the exact date that this happened on. I don't remember the exact date now,

but I want to say like August 23rd or 23rd. 4th. Okay. Somehow I started looking up and like move on files or something like a decade ago. Like I was like getting like kind of like maybe I was like trying and I found reports from that day of like the same thing. So like it was very weird. Okay. So what happened was we were coming back from town. I was with Roy and I was in my car. And we're speeding along. We turn, it's dusk out. You know, we're driving, we're listening to music. There's a faint orange sunset.

You know, it's a light out. It's light out. It's not dark, but it's dimming. We turn left down this. hill, which is this really long hill on Jefferson Beach Road, I believe, or something like that. This hill, it goes down like real steep

for a ways, and then it kind of levels out, and it goes for like, the road goes for like another mile, and then it curves to the right. And then the road goes for about two miles before it comes to a tea and there's evergreen trees on each side of this road. And there's your general easement and setback and all that and those bar ditches. And this in Washington State. And we turned down that hill.

And right when we turn down that hill, we see my friend Jeremiah. And he's driving and he's coming up the hill. And he has his girlfriend with him. Well, apparently, right then, that's when they seen this thing. now I didn't see anything yet Roy didn't see anything yet now we're coming down this hill we go another mile

we make the corner drive about another three quarters of a mile and I go I see something in the sky and I don't look at it and my mind goes it's a helicopter

I'm driving I'm probably going like 60 and my mind goes, I'm going to say like two seconds later, my mind goes, that's really big. And I go, damn, it's probably one of those Chinook helicopters, those double-bladed ones. So I literally had that thought. I had that.

I'm still driving. I'm not looking at Rollway. But I notice that's a really big helicopter, and it's probably a Shinnuk. and then I go, nope, that's not a Shana. It's a fucking UFO.

And at the same time, my mind thought that, Roy, again, just like Jeremiah, out of the peripheral, I see him look, except he is terrified.

He moves his whole body, and he bends down, and he's like, really honing in on the shit, and so am I. And we're like, what we literally at the same time basically say something to the effect of that's it that's it because we were waiting for this moment we knew it was going to happen we knew that we would see

the next thing and it would come and that's when i hit the gas pedal and what did you do did you follow it? This thing was so big that I'm going to say it it was in between a half mile and three quarters of a mile across and we were just seeing the tip of it and I decided

to hit the gas pedal. That's when Roy just about shit is fucking fans. Well we speed up. We're looking up at this thing and it's not dark yet but it got a whole lot darker and I could see

all the detail on this. I could see all the architecture. It was alien. And it was so big that if you can imagine

driving down a two-lane road and there's evergreen trees on each side, it started, the tip of it started covering the whole road and then it covered across. And then it covered across. the whole road.

And then the ship just kept coming. And it took up the whole skyline from left to right. And it just kept feeding itself to the left. It was probably about, I thought it was lower than it was because it was so big. I thought it was about 300 feet above ground level. It turns out from Jeremiah's analysis later from a different vantage point and my vantage point, that this thing was probably about 800 feet from ground level, but it was so massive that it was basically like almost independence day size.

And it had compartments. It had architecture. It had ridges, protrusions, window-looking things, portals, alien architecture, It looked like something off of the movie Alien versus Predator

or something like the outside of the craft itself was bronzish in color. It looked extremely high tech

and foreign but it looked crude at the same time and hostile and it looked the metal was scorched and beat up

and it looked like it had entered and exited a thousand atmospheres and just been through hell and it got to the middle part of the craft and there was this milky white elliptical shaped bubble that I'm assuming

was its propulsion device it wasn't making any noise or anything and it was probably the size of school buses or bigger you know like a grouping of like school buses and it was a milky orange white and then you couldn't see either end of the craft that was just the middle

that it just kept feeding itself then you saw the other end and and then we couldn't see anymore because it's the tree line and so I was still speeding and while I slowed down a little bit I basically said fuck it, we're going to the beach

I penned it and we got down there like super quick and we got down to the dock and I'm like, where is it? Where is it? And we're like looking and it's over the city of Seattle and it's like

if you hold your hand out in front of you as far as you can hold it and you hold your finger up and your finger's a skyscraper in Seattle because we were across the water from Seattle, this thing would be like the size of your whole hand. It was taking up a mile section of the city cross-section.

And then it's like it shifted and it went out over Mount Rainier. And we could see it. And we freaked out, you know, and Jeremiah was gone because we saw, I was with Roy, and he was with, Jeremiah was with his girlfriend, and they had seen it when they were going up that hill. And they described, they saw the full side view. And he said it was enormous, bigger than a Washington state ferry in the sky. You know, he's saying the same shit I am. You know, we've talked about it.

I know the Ingalls. I know it's direction of travel, where and what it was doing. So later that day we knew Jeremiah was back home So we go over there and we pull up in his driveway I literally jump out of the car and Roy jumps over the car And we like ran up to him we're like Jeremiah Jeremiah guess what we saw And just like this is how it happened

He goes, I know a UFO I saw it too remember when I passed you and that's how that all went down. Later that night on the local King Five News or whatever it is, they said stay tuned for the alien photograph of the night because surely the whole city saw it. So I think people mostly saw this thing, right? You know, even though that happened pretty briefly,

it's like it just shifted and it was like over the city. they kept coming back from break. Stay tuned for alien photograph of the night, alien encounter the night or something, you know, something to that effect and we're like, no way. And then it got to the end of the broadcast.

And they're wrapping up the new segment. And they're like, well, that's all for today, people. And they never showed this thing. No way. What they're going to show?

I don't know if they were actually, someone got a photo, which you would think they, maybe did. And I don't know if men in Black showed up at the studio and just said, nope. But that's, that's, that's basically my closer encounters. Jeez, dude. Wow.

That's crazy. And so, I mean, you found that that encounter was the one that you found reports of online. Other people have confirmed that same day seeing that, that what you saw, right? Not only that, I've talked to people in person before, like I bumped in the random people in the U.S. somehow told them we got talking about where I lived. And then I said, oh, dude, I saw you a photo one time. And they're like, fuck, I saw that too type thing. And they told me where they were.

This happened several times. So several people I met in person saw that. Jeremiah and his girlfriend saw it separate from us. And then Roy and myself, and I found it in some type of. online file. Wow. And for our last sponsor today, we have HelloFresh coming back to the show to share what they have

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You described it as alien. Do you, I mean, are you feeling, like, you said aliens. So I'm assuming you mean extraterrestrial. Do you have any thoughts as to the possibility back then? Do you think it could have been our own technology with the information you have of today when they're saying that we have access to technology? That's possible.

Like, you know, maybe vigilant guardian or not vigilant guardian. I want to realize there's a secret space program that I looked into one time. but you know the um i would say at minimum it was joint um look look it it it didn't look like humans built it looked um it literally looked like something you would see on a sigourney weaver aliens movie the architecture wow So the architecture is what kind of for you makes you feel like this just this was not from here. Yeah. I mean, if it was and they had some kind of joint program, the tech was mostly foreign.

It wasn't, it had been entering and exiting atmospheres and under and oceans and shit. I mean, this thing was scorched and beat up. And like I said, it looked ultra-advance yet crude yet hostile. You know, recently I did an interview with a guy out here in Tennessee, and he talked about seeing what he believed was a UFO projecting lights, basically cloaking itself, making it look transparent. But it was like the stars. he was looking at. They were almost shifting in the sky because it was like the UFO was projecting

the lights onto the UFO itself to make a cloak itself. Oh, wow. Yeah, you know, they probably have one thing I didn't mention about this second UFO. So this only came about like seven years ago or something like that. I went and checked on this. And that was why I was telling about that one road going that one direction. Because I know all these roads as a kid and I know where they are at dark. on me and I go and check and sure enough this is the case that direction that that UFO was flying in in that area was that exact same flight path on that exact same road but we were just two miles over past where that one road was but because that road ended so this this thing still if you went directly west from

where this thing was coming, 17, 18 miles, you would end up right back at that naval submarine base banger. That was questionable. So it makes you, it makes you wonder, like, if that thing was that big and over Seattle, it makes you wonder if it's, if it's there a lot more than people realize, if it does have some kind of ability to just kind of be visible or not. I thought about this, Tony, that happened so quick. And even when we, We drove down to the beach and saw it go over Seattle and then over Mount Rainier. And even going through that experience that I just went through where, that I went through with you where we were direct, we were near. This thing was so big that like, you know, obviously it stayed at a certain level because in Washington State there's a lot of tree lines.

so they got that going on for them. So like how we saw it in that one area, I mean, think about this. Like, I saw that and then I re-saw it and my friends saw it because like we saw it down at the beach again. And that still all happened so quick to where it's like, you know,

it's almost like too much to comprehend. So like if these people are seen in Seattle, it's almost like it's just so overwhelming. and that that was such a quick encounter that it's like, you know, guarantee a lot of people saw that. That's crazy. That's crazy, man. Yeah.

So, you know, when I hear stories like this, I kind of wish that I would see what you guys to see. I mean, it doesn't seem like your life was in danger. But, man, like, so many people saw it. It's like almost as if you could have, like, walked around town the next day and just started talking to people and like, yeah, I saw that. And you all could just. You could, because like I said, I met people around the country that.

lived in that area that saw that. So, you know, you definitely could have done that. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, those things happened to you when you were in high school. Did any other encounters

happened since then? I mean, or is it like... Yeah, several. Like, so, so, you know, one, you know, I would, okay, this is in between,

like, kind of encounter that like people are like, oh, I saw UFO and it's like a light in the sky. And you're like, okay, well, you know, I mean, it's like it might have been, but like we got, you know, you can't even really prove to yourself what that was. This is kind of an in-between thing. So like when I was 18 years old, I, um, my friend had moved to Alaska and I had always I was like a motocross racer and everything and pretty ballsy dude

so I wanted to try commercial fishing and my friends like you know you could probably get a job up here and I live up here so he lived out in the Aleutians right there on this island called Sandpoint and so I went up there and I got a job as a commercial fisherman

which is a whole book within itself but this one night so like my dad goes you better take a camera just because of like these UFO things my dad goes you better take a camera you might see something

and I go okay and that's basically like why I had a camera it was because of that now I rarely took pictures and it was one of those disposable cameras that wound with like the film and I don't even know

if it would have took a picture now that I think about it of this thing really. But the weird part of the story is, we were going back to port the next day after being out at sea for like a while. And so it was a nice evening. And it was probably like 1 a.m.

and it's still light out. And I decided to burn up all my pictures and I was taking pictures of me and the other crew. And I'm like, I ain't going to see now you. You know, and that was, it was actually like on my mind because my dad said that. And I burn up all the film, you know. And then, yeah, sure enough, UFO starts popping out of the sky.

What we saw was, and, you know, I don't know what this was, but it's a little weird. It was, you know, it was this huge, like, cigar-shaped object from the angle I was looking at it at. I guess that means it could have been a disc or something, but it was. kind of like a cigar shape. And it was falling out of the sky. And it was like not burning up. It wasn't burning up in the atmosphere. But it was like pitched up.

It's like it was like yawed up on the front. Like it pitched up to like an eagle would like fan its wings right before it lands. Like it was coming in hot and it said, oh shit. And it like yawed up. and we're like watching this thing and it's about a mile out and it's coming down to the water like fast and we're like thinking like

shit is this going to cause like a tidal wave or something like what is this you know and it's like yod up and then it just like interfaces into the water with no splash so you saw it go into the water with no splash

with no splash yeah wow so I've heard people talk about these UFOs going in and out of water and I actually have photographs of one coming

out of water and I've posted them throughout the years maybe I'll post them again if I remember but one thing that I have heard is that the no splash and they try to understand how that's even possible

and there's this theory that there's some kind of like literal technology on these crafts that doesn't how do I explain it? It doesn't repel water when it's touched. It actually almost accepts water and so that when these crafts have this substance or whatever it is all over the craft, the water reacts to in more of an engulfing way than a repelling way. When you saw go in, did it seem like the water is almost like accepting it into it? Yeah, it was like

almost as if the water was ghostly or something like it didn't even affect it. But what's weird is I felt like it was trying to prevent itself from a crash because of how it like pitched up like a bird. Wow. That's pretty cool, man. That's pretty cool. See, this is the thing, man. I get people on this show that see such cool stuff in life, and I'm over here just recording the stuff, and I'm feeling like a loser because I don't get to see the stuff you guys see.

You'll see it. You know, part of all of this and why I saw more and more is because once you see, see also I didn't tell you, and people probably know that have seen UFOs or anything. I'm sure it's like the same. I am at one point, so it was like after I saw that last one, probably a couple years after that I started really

checking in the UFOs because obviously I realized like there's something going on here you know like I've seen quite a few so you know it made me like check into them even more and stuff but yeah then like the next thing that happened

was let's see I was about this was in a summer at 2001, like August 2001, so before the 9-11. And I owned an electric company. I was probably like, I was 23 at the time. And some of the employees, you know, I actually had, like,

my other partner had brought some employees down from Seattle to help us. because we were down in Arizona. And he had another company up there and we hired them at our company down there. And they stayed in my house for like a while to help us with some projects. And it was like I got on the internet one time. I wasn't even like an internet guy. Like I didn't even ever go on it just to like do like stuff with the company. And I somehow got on this website about soon.

Sedona and it said there was vortexes there. And I mean, back then I didn't know anything about the internet. This could have been like Joe Blow's website and there's supposedly vortexes at the at Sedona. And I go, hey, guys, like check it out. Like this is what Sedona looks like. Look, there's all these rocks and like, hey, there's a vortex. And they're like vortex. Like, whoa, let's go check it out.

And this happened. be at work night. And it was already like 9 o'clock. And one of the guys was my partner's brother, who was an older man. And then we were all like 23-ish, you know, the employees that they brought to my house. And they were like staying with me. So we, I tell them this story. And even the older guy who was like 50.

darn he said damn that's like interesting he was a jehovah witness real straight-laced dude you know and everyone's like damn let's drive up there now and it was like we got all fired up to do this like it sounded like a good idea it sounded like crazy but we knew we had to work the next day it's like 9 o'clock it's like a two and a half hour drive this is the owner or something um so we all drive up there And we take this one truck. I only took this one work truck and like a couple of the people had to like lay down in the truck bed on the way to Sedona. This is how crazy this was because it was like last minute shit and we only had like one truck there or something. Or I don't know why we decided to do that.

I guess so we got all right together maybe. Like it seems weird now that I think about it. So like we get up there. We pack everyone into this like truck and then there was like one or two people in the bed of the truck. I remember that. So there was like Don, the older guy. There was Travis. There was Nick.

There was my friend, Chris, who was my good friend. And then there was this dude Jonathan, who's no longer with us now. And we take off and we go to Sedona. And Don, the older guy, he had had heart surgery before. And he was real weak. you know, he was just like not an active dude. He was like overweight, a real nice guy,

real level-headed straight-lace. We get to Sedona and we show up at this bell rock and we start like hiking everywhere. And like this is in like all of a sudden it's like 11 or something at night or maybe even later. And we like get energized to do this and we're doing some hiking, climbing. And we're like lowering Don down over these ledges.

and he's doing all this shit and we're like, that's like crazy, like darn. It's like scaling down these rock ledges and shit that were like straight up. And he's just like a kid again. It was weird. It was like he was just like a kid again.

And I'm like, hey, let's go to this other rock now called Cathedral Rock. And we basically wanted to get to the top of it. Or this like saddle area that we've seen. saw. We get over there. It's like one in the morning.

And then it takes like another hour that we climb up this thing in the middle of the night. And there was good moonlight. We might have had a couple of flashlights, but it was good moonlight. And it was rugged terrain. We don't know where any real good trail is. We go to some point. And then we're like off the trail and we're like climbing up the side of this like mountain. and then it gets really steep at one point where like an hour into it

and we got about we got about 500 feet to get to the crest of this like saddle part and we're like walking up and all of a sudden out of the mountain the sound emits right out of the mountain and these lights start swirling in the sky, not, not ultra high. We're talking like right up on this saddle, but like 50 feet up in the air. And so we're talking fairly close. And the sound comes, when I say it comes out of the mountain, it came out of the mountain. And it sounded like something like this.

Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, ultra intense, like, like low range. cycling hum noise at exactly the same time that all these swirling lights start up up on this hill that it's just insane it looks like a ferris wheel of a UFO and it's just crazy and there's immense power with that wow wow wow coming out of the mountain and then it just goes and it's like it's like dead silent and then it's like one of these one of these Hollywood movies or something it's just total chaos now

I was perfectly calm because obviously because of my other experiences that I've been through I was just like taking this all in and I look around and everyone's in chaos they're just like fuck what was it

I don't know give me the light you know one guys ran halfway down the mountain just total chaos. I'm like, what are you guys doing? They're like, let's get out of here. They're like, what was it? My one good friend's like, oh, it was just an Indian beating on a drum. So like one guy's mind said, oh, it's just an Indian beating on a drum.

That's what that noise was. And he somehow ignored all the UFO activity and all this shit. Other people are just ready to freak out. One guy's halfway down the mountain. Don's like, holy shit. I'm like, you know, you guys are pussies, man. Like, what like what the fuck? Like, let's go up here

and see, and see what's going on. And I'm already like, start, I'm like, I'm going. I'm going. And I go, and I get, I start walking. I walk like 200 feet up this mountain. It's like steep. And they finally start following me, but

they're like lagging behind. And I'm like, okay. And we get it, we close about half the distance. Now we're only like, we're like we're like 300 feet from the top of the saddle but it's like steep and it's like rocky and um it all starts up again instantly and powerful wow wow wow wow this noise is coming out of the ground it's just coming out of the ground like boom it's like coming out but there's all these swirling lights like a giant ferris wheel and it's all this shit on the mountain and then i start

running towards it. As fast as I can, I'm climbing this mountain. I'm just like, oh, and I get up to the summer. I'm about ready to crest this cliff, and I'm almost dead from like exertion, but I'm like in real good shape back then. And I crest this thing and all these lights, and I'm like up in it, and I'm all lit up, and it just nothing. It just goes dead and it's dead silent.

And there was just nothing there. And I get up and I crest the ledge, and there's a cliff face on the other. side and there's not one person there. There's nothing there. It's just dead silent. And I look down and same thing again, it's just like chaos. Like there's like people. They're just like one guy's like curled up. The other guy's man, man, it was, I'm telling you it was just an Indian on it. It's like a primal drum, bro. Like it's a primal drum, you know, like. So we all leave basically. We're like freaked out. You know, we talk about it the whole way. We get back home. It's like five in the morning.

We don't go to work the next day. I think we ended up going to work, but it was like 10. And we got like three hours sleep or something and it was like went. And we talk about this like over and over. And Dawn's like super rational, like 50 year old dude, we're like 23. But I've had all those other encounters. So I maintain composure. I actually went toward the thing.

Everyone had their story. It was basically everyone told the same story. and it was the same thing, and Don acknowledged all that, and it really happened, and it was real. And then you have my one friend that said it was an Indian beating on a drum. That's almost comical. It was an Indian beating on a drum. Yeah, and I guess that's just how he took it.

You know, it was just too much. Yeah, I mean, I guess so. I can understand. I mean, people rationalize things in their own way. I don't know how, I mean, I don't know. I don't think I'd be able to rationalize it that way in person, you know? How do you even think of that in the moment? Like, you're seeing what you're seeing.

You're like, it's an Indian beating on a drone. I know what he's getting at. Have you heard those Australian things that are like, wham, wow, wow, wow, wow. Yeah. You know, it had a feel like that to it. But, dude, this thing was like full on resonance coming out of the rock, like rumbling the whole, like,

deal, dude. Like, I don't know what it was. Like, it was like in the mountain, bro. Wow. That's incredible. That was Sedona, Arizona. Yeah. That's north of Phoenix, right? Right, right. Now, are you familiar with the superstition mountains? Yeah, yeah. Are they anywhere near Sedona, do you know of? Not really, no. But there's things that happen there, too. Yeah, I hear there's a lot. lot of things that happened there. One of these days, I'd like to actually visit there. I think it'd be kind of fun. I'm actually going to be heading out to that area, maybe this month later, later this month for my film that I'm working on. So, all right, well, listen, let's, now that we, wow,

that was incredible. I don't even know how to, I don't even know how to transition to any kind of other topic here. But I will, I think what we'll do is we will transition into the dog man encounter if that's all right with you? Yeah, for sure. So in that same, this is what's weird about this dog man thing. This

happened in that same area where all those UFO sightings happen in Kingston, Washington, in that same neighborhood. And I want to say I was 17 years old and it was summertime. So it was before I saw that

big UFO. And it was after I saw that ball UFO the sphere with Jeremiah. And we decided to go camping down by this beach cliff. It's like a probably 100 foot tall beach cliff.

And to go camping in this spot, you got to walk we walked from my house or something, you know, me and a core group of the guys. And then it was like it was like this other group with this dude Terry that we didn't really hang around with at school,

but like sometimes we would kick it with them in the neighborhood. And they were more like, I would say they were more like, you know, the outcast of the school. They, you know, they listen to like Pantera

and stuff like that. like a Doc Martin's you know just like and I was in a little different route but like we definitely hung out outside of school to some extent so he had um that this guy Terry had got some his friends and we all went camping and um to get there you got to uh go down this trail and and it and it kind of follows along the beach cliff but it's through these real dense woods and you get you go back about a mile or more. And in some parts of the path, when you go back there, it gets real close to the beach cliff that's like 100 feet down,

but there's trees there. You know, it's real strong cliff. It looks like it appears like it is, at least. And like I've repelled off that cliff before with one of my friends. But it, at some points, it gets within like six to, 10 feet of that beach cliff, basically. But they're still like brush to one side, you know, and some trees. And then all throughout that's like big trees and stuff.

And then it opens up into this area where we decided to build a fire in camp. And we did this often. We were doing this a lot. In fact, on this particular night or one of these nights, we all thought it would be most excellent to go walk another two miles down to this summer camp where all the kids were staying. You know, probably our age kids mixed with like other age kids. I'm sure it was like a summer camp. It was on the Indian Reservation.

This was all on Indian Reservation property. And we decided to, you know, do the proper thing at the time was because like we were basically out in the middle of the we decided to ring the dinner bell at the summer camp. So that Terry dude kicks it off, you know, and then we're going to like run through the camp and like scream and wake everyone up and then like retreat to our camp, right? And what happened was that Terry dude rings the dinner bell. and he's like wake up and he's like ding ding ding ding ring this big old like dinner bell

all these camp counselors come out and like we're running through there and we're like yelling and then we basically go like a couple miles back or a mile and a half back across this like swampy like slew beach area up the beach cliff from the back side there's a trail that goes up it because this was like the other way that we didn't come in it like kept going down the beach And then we get back to our camp. And what happened was we had the munchies or something and realized we didn't bring enough food. And it's like in the middle of the night. And we're just like, it's probably like three in the morning or something.

And I decided to make a food run with one of the other kids that's like wasn't part of my close group, but he was one of the friends with Terry. And I can't remember his name. but we went to my house and we were going to bring back a bunch of like canned food and stuff so like we did this and that took a while I mean it was almost

I'm thinking it was like almost morning but it wasn't getting light yet so it was still dark by the time we get back so we probably left at like 1 30 or 2 so all this transpired in one night and we get back to the camp

and we brought like some food with us or we were getting back to the camp we're on the beach trail. We're about 200 feet from the fire. And everyone's still around and they're like partying and drinking and stuff. And like, you can hear it. And we're like, oh, you know, it'd be funny. Let's just, let's run in.

Let's run in from where we are and start screaming and just fuck with everyone, basically. So we go and we're at a section of this trail that basically gets real close to the cliff. And then from there on you can see the fire in the distance. You can see them, but we're through some brush and we're still backaways and we're on this trail. And to the left is that beach cliff, but there's a wooded section there. There's a patch of woods and big trees still on the left side of the trail. and then there's forest on the whole right side of the trail, and the trail leads to the opening.

So we go, okay, one, two, three, we're going to run like idiots and scream and just be like, ah, like surprise them. Like, that was our idea. So we take off into a full run, and then right about the time we were going to start screaming, it was like the scene on Terminator 2, where Linda Hamilton sees the Terminator

and like falls down to her feet like backwards. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like, we're like in a full on run and all of a sudden there's what I thought at the time, I guess I could only describe it at the time as a big white wolf. Except this wolf is so big that it's massive.

And we're in a full out run and we see it like come up or pop up from behind a bush to our left only like feet away. But it's like in front of us. And instantly me and the guy behind me, you know, full sprint somehow like fell backwards. Like it was so horrifying. We literally decided to make ourselves crash at a full run and just fall down to our asses and drop the backpacks. everything. And at the same time that we're like falling down at like a full run on purpose, now we're like under this, this wolf's like just feet in front of us, but it's jumping over us.

And it's like eight feet high and it takes a leap and it leaps like it leaps like 20 feet. And then it leaps like 30 feet. And then it leaps like 30 feet. And it's just like it great. peacefully disappears into the woods. And that was it. Jeez. Holy crap. I thought, okay, so this gets weirder. Now, Indian Reservation, right?

Okay, Skin Walker. Okay, great. See, this thing was a physical creature. But what happened was, like a week later, two natives from the reservation come up that back trail, like from that camp area. and they're like drinking and they see we're like partying and so they stop and they like hang out and like um talk and like party with us real quick and then they like went on their way but what's

weird is they were native and one of them out of the blue goes hey have you guys ever heard the story of the white wolf and i said no way i'm like what this guy starts telling a story about this white wolf protects the reservation. Now check this out. After all these dogmen, so like I was struggling with this for years for something like Skinwalker, like white wolf, like what?

You know, but after listening to over 400 dog man encounters, I really think this thing was a dogman. It was physical. It definitely wasn't just some white wolf. and there are, from these dogmen encounters, there are white dogmen, but they're like almost like rare. Like, I don't know if it's like an albino, but like I would say like one and 150 of the encounters, they talk about a white one. Yes. I just talked to a guy recently who brought up the different colors of dogmen and he said that, and he was a native.

He's actually from South California and he was Navajo. And he told me that, from what he was told that the ones that are more of a white color are more of the protector type. And that would fall right in line with what you just said. See, isn't this just crazy? Yeah. Like how bizarre. So, like, what I've come to terms with recently, only after studying like 400 some plus dogman encounters is likely it was a dog man. That's crazy.

That's absolutely crazy. Yeah, I had a couple episodes, but one always sticks out in my mind and it was like episode 50-something years ago when I first started. I had a lady on and she had a very, at the time seemed very odd encounter with a dog man because she talked about when she was a little girl, she almost had like a relationship with this thing. Like it was not like aggressive at all towards her. and one thing that she described in that story was that it was a white dog man or maybe like a light gray. And so with this piece of information I have now, I'm like, okay, it's starting to kind of make sense. One thing I've also picked up is that it seems like to me at least that every time I've heard of a peaceful encounter, I'm sure there's stories out there that contradict what I'm about to say.

but every time I've personally talked to somebody that had a peaceful encounter, every time that I can recall, it's been when they were a child. And so I don't know if there's something to do with these things and the children and them not acting as aggressive. But I find it very interesting. Yeah, it is. And I myself, I'm fascinated with the dog man now. You know, even though that was like a brief encounter, it's enough to let me know that something exists out there like that. You know, there's one more story. I'll tell it happened in the same neighborhood at the same house.

So we had all these chickens. And my dad wakes up one morning. No, no, no. My dad has a dream. And he tells me about it. Because the dream stands out and he's like, man, I had this weird dream. This predator came and killed all over chickens. But it was weird.

I don't know what kind of predator this was. All I know is it had ultra-long claws. Like three days later, my dad wakes up and he's like, man, I heard like panting outside all night. And a bunch of commotion, he goes outside. All the chickens are dead. They're like wiped out and like spread across the whole yard. And believe it or not, there was. these crazy tracks with these long-ass claw marks that

I asked my mom and dad about this recently and they're like, oh, the neighbor said it was a bear. Dude, I remember when the neighbor was telling my dad about this because the neighbor was like a hunter. The neighbor and my dad kind of were like debating if it was a bear, but it was a weird track and it had long claws. So like, I don't know, you know, I don't know what that was.

but you know it's it is interesting that that happened in that same neighborhood. Do you think that there's anything to it when it comes to the fact that your dad had a dream and then something happened? Yeah, I could tell you that's happened several times in his life and that I know of. And I could tell you a crazy story. It's it's crazy. I don't know if you want to get into it, but my dad has he had, he has these dreams and like about three days later this happened on a couple of instances like stuff that never could have came true like came true um you know one thing is um when i was younger we rented this trailer up on this mountain and i was like five years old and it was in oregon it was before we moved to washington and this uh trailer was uh they just put it up on this mountain and um it was one of the single wives like it wasn't like a little one it was like a big one and um it was on a steep mountain you had to have like a four by four suburban to to get up there and my dad has his dream in the morning he tells it same same type thing it stood out and i remember this um he said hey um

there's going to be this great wind you know you didn't see that he said I had a dream. There was this great wind that blew the trailer off the mountain. And he told us about it. And there was like more too than that. And it was like weird. And I'm like, that's weird. My dad's never really told his dreams before.

And I remember thinking this, I was like five. And I'm thinking like, that's weird, right? Well, over the next two days, all my dad did. Like, it was like weird. It was like something you see on a movie when I think about it. now almost like Noah's Ark or something like he was given this message like he's he bought one of those tie down kits for the trailer and he started like putting in all those long ground rods and anchors into the ground with jackammerers and like pickaxing and doing like crazy work like 12

hours a day for like the next two days to tie this trailer down now keep in mind we didn't even live in an area where there was storms or anything like nothing like that was like it wasn't like known like something was going to happen. Three days later, I get woken up in the middle of the night. My parents are scared shitless, and the whole trailer is going to blow off the mountain, basically is how I remember it.

And my dad even had it tied down. It's ripping all the siding off. My mom, like, bundles me up, and we get out from the trailer, we make it into the suburban. And it was, like, brutal. It was, like, being in, like, a hurricane or something. I mean, like, get out and get into the suburban.

And the way I remembered, I mean, I was a little kid, but it felt like the suburban was dragging around on the ground. The storm was so bad, like, as if it was actually, like, sliding one foot left, sliding forward a foot. You know, so I don't know. Wow. But that's, so that kind of stuff has happened with my dad. Wow. So it's like your dad has, like, almost prophetic dreams, you know? Right.

Wow. Wow. Are storms like that common where you were at? No, no, that's what I was saying. Like, we had no reason to believe this. In fact, they didn't even know the area. So, because I've talked about this with them, like, since, you know? And, yeah, it was just like some freak thing.

It was like out of my dad's character to do that. And I've never seen them, like, be so determined to get these ground rods in and all those, you know, it was just really weird. Wow. It is weird. It also makes me feel like when dad says he dreams something, you should probably pay attention. Yeah, no, I do now. I probably would definitely listen. Does your dad, is this something that he kind of still does today, or do you not really talk about it? He did a couple times. I can't think of the, he's done this like maybe like three to four times and it's just like clear cut, you know. Wow. Oh, man. Crazy, crazy stuff.

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