The Confessionals - 520: Secret Megalithic New England

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

In Episode 520: Secret Megalithic New England we are talking with Mark Steeves from My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast! Mark listens to the show and when he heard me putting out episodes with Derek Ol...son from Megalithic Marvels and the Appalachian Intelligence boys he had to let me know what he was involved in. Mark recently started to discover an ancient past up in New England that not many people are talking about. He has been finding megalithic structures throughout the region and seems to have discovered a methodology for how to find them. He believes there is a real order to the location of these structures and if you learn to recognize the patterns you increase your odds significantly of finding them hidden all throughout New England. Mark Steeves:Twitter: @MFTICPodcastInstagram: @myfamilythinksimcrazyWebsite: myfamilythinksimcrazy.comS.E.E.E.N. Edition #1: A Synchro-Mystic Travel Guideko-fi.com/s/6f1e1173a0S.E.E.E.N. #2 N.E.M.M.E.S.S.I.S.S.ko-fi.com/s/9baa70f625Patreon: patreon.com/MFTIC?fan_landing=trueRokfin: rokfin.com/myfamilythinksimcrazyKo-fi: ko-fi.com/myfamilythinksimcrazyBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSee Tony LIVE in Gatlinburg, TN!Tickets: https://bit.ly/3IC4IkxWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0Tony's Studio Equipment: linktr.ee/mystudiogearSPONSORSGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/confessGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals21" for 21 FREE MEALS!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionals@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelAre you a military veteran struggling with thoughts of suicide?Contact Watchman Readiness Corps for REAL help. A veteran-run organization that is designed to help through hands-on survival training.Website: wrc.vetEmail: watchmanreadiness@gmail.comPhone: (214) 912-8714Instagram: wrc_survivalFacebook: colbywrcvetOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - ShutUp N DriveYouTube: https://bit.ly/3yH4kvGApple Music: https://apple.co/3nDfsU1Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3nErEUI

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Starting point is 00:04:44 Expedition Dogman. All right, friends, thanks for being here. Let's get into this week's show. we have Mark Steves coming on the show today, and he is going to be talking about all his findings of megalithic structures in New England. That's right. Not a whole lot of people are talking about megalithic structures in New England, but he is finding them all over the place, and he has found a system to help him find these things, and you are going to hear about today. So let's get to Mark Stevens from My Family Thinks I'm Crazy Podcast right now.
Starting point is 00:05:20 All right, today we got Mark Stevens in the house. How you doing, Mark? Excellent. Hey, I just said your last name. Is that okay? Yeah, absolutely. I go by a bunch of different names. The more options people have, the more confusing the trail is.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Mark Steve, Mystic Mark, Mark Palmer, whatever you hear, that's me. Gotcha, man, gotcha. So I just want to let the audience know that we have a real-life Nephilim in the house today. Listen, dude, like, you're so. I was stinking tall, man. Like, holy crap. I nailed it, too, when we were chatting one time. I forget, I saw you in a picture of something.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I said, dude, like, you're like six, eight or something. You're like, yep, you're not far off. Yeah. Yeah, that's the exact height. I think you saw a picture of me and my mentor, Amos. And, yeah, it's by all appearances, I'm a giant. There's no coincidence that I'm tracking this information down. I think people won't be surprised to learn that we're going to be talking about giants today.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah, I mean, it's just like research for your family tree. You're doing it all. Exactly. I'll find out where great grandpa's buried. Absolutely. It's Smithsonian. Check there first. Listen, man, before we get into the information today, let the people know who you are and where you're from and stuff. This is the first time you've been on my show. I've been on your show several times. and it's nice to be able to return the favor. So let the people know where you're from and what you're all about. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah, it's been a pleasure having you on my show, I think almost four times. If I'm counting correctly, four times or three times you've been on my show, the My Family thinks I'm crazy podcast, and I'm sure folks listening to the confessionals can relate to that. I was one of you many years ago and still am to this day a listener of the confessionals and a supporter now. I recently signed up for the website. So join me over there, folks. But my show is called My Family Thinks I'm Crazy. It was inspired by, well, a long life of being on the fringe, being interested in things that necessarily go against.
Starting point is 00:07:50 the grain and possibly are a little bit weird. I've just always had a propensity for that. And around 2019, I met Sam Tripoli, and just as a fan, and one thing led to another, I got invited onto his Patreon podcast, and that got me invited back on four or five times, and then I eventually did his podcast Zero and he asked me to help him out with the booking. So I started working with Sam on his podcast Zero and eventually Tinfoil Hat and now I have the pleasure of working with Sam on his show Tinfoil hat, which I was again like the Confessionals, a huge fan of, still am. So my journey from just listener to podcaster, I always like to point that out because, you know, folks listening, you may be working a job like I once had
Starting point is 00:08:54 a delivery guy. Tony's been a delivery guy. You're listening to podcasts all day. If you're like us and you have something to say, don't be shy, get on the mic, give it a shot, and who knows, maybe you'll quit your job and start something new. Maybe you'll start Merkel Media like Tony did, you know, I mean, look at how much work Tony's put in and how it's paying off. So you've been an inspiration to me, Tony. For folks who don't know, I book Tinfoil Hat, and of course, my family thinks I'm crazy is the name of my podcast. And I have a couple other podcasts that have grown out of that podcast. And I hope to be sort of focusing on one of those today. That's the podcast titled Esoteric America. And the idea of this show is to invite folks on to share their research, right?
Starting point is 00:09:45 not necessarily the same as your show where you have folks coming on to share their incredible encounters or compelling stories. We invite folks to go and do some digging, look into the history of their hometown, their backyard, wherever they find themselves, and they can start collecting these stories. And we've done some really, really incredible episodes from Audet, Minnesota to Anderson, Indiana, to Spring Green. or Spring Clan, Wisconsin. I mean, there are so many little pockets of America that, you know, go unnoticed. Of course, there's the famous Mothman sightings. There's the Loch Ness sightings. There's the big foot hot spots.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But really, no matter where you look, and it's not just America, no matter where you look, you'll find something weird. It's just about having the curiosity and sometimes the bravery. to go after it, you know, and that's kind of been the funnest part of esoteric America is to meet all these great people who are interested in the same thing. As a matter of fact, you introduced me to three young men who are right in line, literally with everything I'm doing. They kind of inspired this exchange in a small way. When I saw the Appalachian boys on the show, I said, geez, I'm kind of like the northern Appalachian guy up here in New England. Let me
Starting point is 00:11:15 tell these dudes what's going on up here. So shout out to Justin, Lance, and Ryan. Those dudes rock. Thank you for introducing me to them. And I think they are another example of people who are out there digging up
Starting point is 00:11:31 places, not literally digging up, but seeking things that, for the most part, the average person doesn't really even consider real. They think myths and legends are just things that you find in storybooks. Now, they're in your backyard, folks. Myths and legends are
Starting point is 00:11:51 for the making. You may not find something, you know, like a treasure chest full of gold, but you're going to have a story. Even if you come home with your hands empty, you're going to have a story. And as human beings, story is, you know, I want to say it's the most important. I don't even think that does it justice. I think storytelling is one of the most human things ever. And your show is a testament to that. All the amazing stories that you've collected on this podcast. I'm very honored to be able to add to that amazing collection, while also hopefully giving folks out there who haven't seen a Bigfoot or a moth man or any of these fantastic creatures. a reason to still be excited about going out.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I mean, I'm not saying you won't see a Bigfoot hunting down some of these stone structures. Who knows? I've heard stories that Bigfoot actually like hanging out near some of these stone structures we're going to talk about. But I think there is an energy. There's an energy out there in the landscape that we can connect with. It's human. it's ordained by God, it's not some devil crap that we need to be afraid of.
Starting point is 00:13:21 There's an energy in nature that when we commune with, it shares its gifts with us. And that gift may be different for each individual, right? So I'm kind of on my soapbox here, but hopefully all of what I just said will make sense as we start getting into the material here. Yeah, absolutely, man. So, yeah, I think the, I think this show, and I try to get the show to embody my spirit as a person. And I honestly don't feel like the show accurately represents me. And it's mainly because I still have a hard time defining what makes me tick on the inside. But if I could define it, I would say mystery. There's a reason why we have these people telling these stories, because they're very mysterious. and it's one of those things where, like you said, storytelling is such a human thing.
Starting point is 00:14:20 It's something that we can pass on through the generations, and it lets you connect to an individual on a much more personal level than somebody saying that I researched this topic of ghosts and let me tell you what it is kind of thing, just letting people say, hey, I had this experience with a dogman. And this is what I went through. And you can draw understanding from the human nature of the experience. But it's very mysterious these topics. We don't know how they work.
Starting point is 00:14:54 We don't know where these things come from and what they're here for. Are they natural? Are they not? Interdimensional? All these things. And along those lines of that idea of mystery and hunting down mystery is the same energy and vein that gets me up and running when it comes to looking for lost treasure, looking for ancient land sites where ancient people were, architecture, forgotten things that
Starting point is 00:15:20 exist today deep in the woods. Those are kind of things that just get me going because it's the mystery of life. I think if I could embody the show the best, it would be just to encompass mystery. Things that make you just sit there and be like, that's amazing. How is that even impossible. How did we go through the woods all these years and never see these structures or where we saw them, but we just never thought about them the way we think about them now? And that's kind of like how you're going to be taking us today with these more megalithic-type structures in the New England area, right? Very well said. Absolutely. I hope to share people, share with people not only the mystery,
Starting point is 00:16:02 but the methodology. Let me explain. This story that I'm about to tell, it starts with an idea, as every story does. And the idea was not mine. It was my girlfriend's idea. She's traveled all over the world,
Starting point is 00:16:23 and synchronicity brought us together in our hometown, the place where we were both born. Me, I'm a slug on a lot. I never go anywhere. Like I drive my car around like a little bug. I never fly. I never get on boats, anything. I'm in my New England region.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I'm very comfortable here. She's the opposite. She's been to Tahiti. She's been to Australia. She's been to Africa, Europe, you know. And she said to me, you know, I've been to all these places. I don't know anything about where I'm from. And it doesn't, you know, I don't feel good about traveling because when I meet people
Starting point is 00:17:01 and they asked me where I'm from, I barely have anything to say. And, you know, that's her perspective. My perspective was a little similar. Like, you know, I've been learning about all these mysterious places like the great pyramids and the pyramid at Teotihuacan and the mounds and all these amazing things that I haven't ever visited. What's going on in my own backyard? And we set out to do this.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I mean, it was sort of haphazard the way it unfolded, but it was synchronistic nonetheless. And maybe if I share this sort of story that got me here, that'll help sort of ingratiate the mystery and not, you know, I don't want it to be so research-based. I like what you said there. So it all started with an interview on my podcast,
Starting point is 00:17:53 episode 52. And we spoke to a woman who describes herself, as a galactic walk-in. She's someone who had a very traumatic, life-threatening incident that occurred to her. Her original self decided she didn't want to be in this body anymore, and a new soul, so to speak, entered that physical space and became Aurora.
Starting point is 00:18:23 That's her story. That's how she identifies as a galactic walk-in. and it was a really, really compelling conversation that we had with her. But one of the things that she told us was that she spent a lot of time in Woodstock, New York, and there was a vortex there. And I heard that, and I was immediately a little bit stunned, super curious, but I had thought of a random drive that I did during the pandemic. We were all locked down in one of my hands.
Starting point is 00:18:58 past times was to just get in my car and drive because there was hardly any traffic at that point in time. So I drove up to Woodstock. This was before I met my girlfriend. And I took some pictures. I saw this mountain that kind of drew my eye and I went home. Didn't really do much. Now, upon hearing that there's a vortex there, those memories started coming back to me. Oh, remember that mountain you saw. And Oh, remember that weird eagle statue. So Tara and I, we drove up to Woodstock, and Woodstock's kind of taken over by commercialism. It's not the hippie, you know, epicenter that it used to be. It's a lot of shops and, like, fancy cafes.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And, you know, it's the same story, different town. It's happened to a lot of places that used to be cool. But Woodstock still maintains its spiritual. energy somehow, and it had some really amazing bookstores. So we walk into the bookstore, we're digging around, and I find a book titled Spirit in Stone. And this is the book that set us off on this whole journey, man. And it's introduced us to things that I could not have imagined were possible, or even present. So we find this book by Glenn Kreisberg, Spirit in the Stone, and immediately, what drew me was the map in the center of the book,
Starting point is 00:20:30 a long line that stretched from Long Island in New York up through Connecticut into the Great Lakes. For folks who haven't heard from Connecticut, I live in Connecticut, I'm born here, and the Hammond asset line carved straight through Connecticut. It's this layline of some kind. It's this man-made, drawn line. It's not a physical line that you'll see if you are standing there, you know, in the physical space, but the line is there.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And why they drew this line is because all along the line there are hundreds of Native American stone structures that have not been explained, nor have they been cataloged, up until the point that this book was written. and their primary explanation for these stone structures is that they're aligned to the equinox. They're aligned to the spring and summer, or I'm sorry, the spring and fall equinox. Now, this is kind of a tremendous feat to pull off, considering, you know, this line stretches through several states and goes almost incredibly straight. the whole time. Not to mention there's several strange sites along this line, one of which is not too far from Woodstock.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So sure enough, we were on the Hammondasset line when we found this book. Also, Woodstock, I should point out, the center of town, the circle that makes the center of town is also aligned with the Hammond asset line, almost a if the town of Woodstock was built to mirror this relationship between the stone structures and the line of equinox. So here we have ancient stone structures in a relatively recently built city, town, conforming to this non-obvious, you know, sort of hidden function of astronomy on the land. landscape. Now, the Native Americans who lived here were obviously agricultural. They needed to
Starting point is 00:22:55 have a calendar of some kind and have the ability to make accurate predictions. So they use stone structures like this to pull that off. But I don't think it was limited to just utilitarian purposes. We have authors like Paul Devereaux who talk about the intaglios that are all across, well, the United States, Central America, South America. And while the intaglios are a little bit different than what we find on the Hammannacet-Lay line, it's the same concept of stones on the landscape in a shape and within a ceremonial context. And what Paul Devereaux discovered is that some of these intaglios, they're also known as the NASCA lines. If you've heard of the NASCA lines, the scientific name for those are entaglios. well the legend about these is that a shaman would walk the path of the intaglio so if it was shaped like a monkey he would walk the outline of a monkey if it was shaped like a bird he would walk the outline of a bird and this would create a transformational state within that shaman potentially now fast forward or let's zoom over to
Starting point is 00:24:30 this part of the world again, along the Hammondasset layline, we have essentially what's known as the gate of the gods or the stairways of the gods, the mountains of the gods. And that's the Catskill mountains. There's 12 peaks. Different tribes have different names for what I just described, but essentially it's a series of mountains that each are higher than the rest. And it would be a sort of right of passage for a man to follow the line, the spirit line, up this mountain to reach, well, whichever peak he could reach. Obviously, if you reach the highest one, you know, that was a lot more impressive than reaching the sixth highest one, right?
Starting point is 00:25:19 So there was a whole dichotomy, a hierarchy through the landscape itself. this is all taking place potentially as far back as 12,000 years ago. I mean, some of these tribes have archaeological evidence that dates them that far back. Now, let's sort of shift focus a little bit. When we look at these Native American stone structures, we have to take into account
Starting point is 00:25:50 that some of them don't fit the common archetype for what we consider Native American. Some of them conform more to what we would see in England, in Ireland, in Scotland, these dolmens and standing stones. And Barry Fell, who the mainstream considers a pseudo-archologist. I have read his work. I don't think he's a pseudo-archologist based on his books. He sounds like any other archaeologist.
Starting point is 00:26:25 and the way he goes about looking these things up and positing his hypothesis. And he's found evidence to show that not only were they're Scandinavian, not only were they're Irish, not only were they're Welsh and English, there was Egyptian, there was Iberian.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So you have all these different cultures not only coming to America, but leaving evidence, behind, you know, in the form of hieroglyphics, petroglyphs, these kind of things. This is occurring all over the United States over a series of the last thousand, two thousand years. So this is all before Columbus. You know, we have Irish monks coming here. We have the Welsh Prince Mada coming here.
Starting point is 00:27:24 We have the Templars. Scott Walters written a bunch about them. So clearly there's a much larger story that's been left out of our history books. There's a lot going on here in America that for maybe political reasons or racial reasons, they've been just wiped from our record, the history of these Irish monks and the Scandinavians. and even as far back in time as Phoenicians, you know, Phoenicians coming here and potentially taking copper out of the Great Lakes.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Now, the Hammannacet-Layline connects Long Island Sound with the Great Lakes, and it has all these stone structures along this line. Some might think that that's a path of some kind. It may be even a marker saying like, okay, if you make it to the east coast of the Atlantic, you can follow this line into the Great Lakes, or vice versa. If you were in the Great Lakes,
Starting point is 00:28:33 you didn't have a ship, you couldn't get back to the ocean, you can follow that. There is a way to follow the St. John River down through the Great Lakes and make it into the mid-interior of the country from the Atlantic Ocean. and we even think that people have then gone from the Great Lakes down the Mississippi and out the Gulf of Mexico.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So clearly there's the trade routes there, there's the Gulf Stream and the currents sort of allow for this sort of thing to take place. To me, I think when you're researching, it's important to know, to know, not get bogged down in the information. What's important is to follow your intuition. So all of that background information I just gave. Let's put that aside for now. I find Spirit in the Stone, you know, a lot of the stuff I just talked about, Glenn, he doesn't go that far. He doesn't say, you know, Irish people built this Hammond asset line or Europeans built it. He doesn't go that far. but it's important to take all the information that you can get and kind of let it all sit in front of you before you go and make a decision like,
Starting point is 00:29:59 oh, well, it must have been this person or any sort of conclusion. I don't have any conclusions really yet, but we take the information we got from the Spirit and the Stonebook, pass it around, share it with friends, and a friend Mike Juan, who I highly recommend you have him on this show, he said, you got to pick up a book called the Gaia Matrix. I said, okay, I ordered it. We got it in the mail.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And of course, he recommended this because of all the, you know, obsession, a talk that I had over the Hammond asset line. So he said, oh, you should get the Gaia Matrix. It has a bunch of those laylines in New England. And I had never seen a New England, like, layline map before, a map of this area with laylines on it. Well, Tony, we get this book, and sure enough, Peter Shampo's chakra layline, that's his name for it.
Starting point is 00:30:59 He named it the chakra layline. It goes right through my hometown. Not only does it go right through my hometown, it goes right through the only part of the state where you can't get cell service. It's my favorite part of the state of Connecticut. I used to drive there all the time after work because it's just so beautiful and you go up there and drive onto this mountain. You can see this big reservoir underneath the mountain. I'd go there all the time just instinctively, you know, sensing something special about that place.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Sure enough, it's on this layline that another researcher who's far more experienced than myself, I've interviewed him a couple times on my show. he put this together in his book several years ago, and here we are on this journey, trusting our intuition and this information just keeps appearing. First it was, hey, this layline cuts through your state. Now it's, hey, this layline cuts through your home down. And I'm just sort of like soaking it all in and trying not to let the synchronicity spin me out
Starting point is 00:32:10 because it can feel, well, it can feel like you're on this sort of like ego trip sometimes with the synchronicities because they're a little bit too good to be true sometimes. And also they also can kind of get you into this state of mind of like, oh my gosh, I'm the chosen one, which is like the ego trip, but a little more like with a spiritual experience. use built into it so you can kind of like not feel so ashamed of. But I think that's, you know, my humble New Englander kind of like beat myself up approach, like has always kept me close to the refresh button. What I mean by that is anytime I'm getting that ego trip or that feeling of like, whoa, this is important, I must be important, I hit the refresh button
Starting point is 00:33:09 because that's not where the insights come. They don't come from when you're on your high horse. They don't come from when you put yourself on the pedestal. They come from when you get all of that out of your mind and you just focus on what's in front of you. So we find this book, The Gaia Matrix, and along that chakra layline is a third point and a fourth point and a fifth point, a sixth point,
Starting point is 00:33:35 going all the way up to Canada. This layline goes all the way up to Canada, and then he kind of points out this is where the energy sort of flows, right? It flows up this line, but it gathers at these points, right? Because these laylines, they're not static, they're not linear. They're almost like a vine. The way a vine will bloom in one area with a flower and a sort of circle will come from that pattern that's, for the most part, linear.
Starting point is 00:34:05 You'll have these bloom points, right? So that's how you should think of this layline is there's the linear aspect that's like the vine that's kind of connecting the various parts of the plant body. And then there are like the flowers, which are not only giving off energy, but also attracting energy as well. So we drove up to Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts. Now, Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts is on Peter's layline. It's also this, you know, nice little town. we go in the bookstore, of course, because that's how these synchronicities keep moving forward
Starting point is 00:34:41 is by going to the bookstore, especially a used bookstore. Don't waste your time at Barnes & Noble. No offense to Barnes & Noble or any other chain stores, but used bookstores are key for this kind of thing. And we find an amazing book called the Manitow. And I have it right next to me, Manitow, a fantastic book that really expands on so many of the questions we were asking at that point in time.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And really, the information in this book is so dense that I'm still making my way through it. But here we go. We have this link of the three books, Spirit in the Stone, Gaia Matrix, and Manitow. And for me, a book nerd, it's like, well, of course I'm buying books. but you can't dismiss the causality there, where one book led to the other and led to the other. And they all happen to fit into this information category that is really ignored.
Starting point is 00:35:54 A lot of people, A, don't know that these stone structures exist, and B, the ones that do choose maybe not to research, shit, I'm talking about archaeologists, right? I mean, there's, I'm sure, dozens of people who hike and appreciate these things and know about them, blog about them, and whatnot, but very few respected professors
Starting point is 00:36:18 or academics go about trying to make sense of these stone structures. And, I mean, some of them are baffling, Tony. Some of them are just baffling. Like, for instance, the pedestal boulders that you can see in New York. I'm going to show you an image real quick, and you can kind of help me describe this for the audience,
Starting point is 00:36:42 but there are several of these around the country, specifically in the northeast region, and they're just massive stones, massive, massive stones that have been lifted, seemingly, onto these smaller stones. Now, the one with the gentleman in the red shirt underneath it, that's in North Salem, New York. And the other one that's kind of like a postcard, the reason why I didn't use a photograph of the stone as opposed to the postcard here is because this boulder has actually been moved from its original location. And the only evidence of its original location exists in the form of these postcards.
Starting point is 00:37:30 But as you can see, this giant boulder is somehow propped up by these much smaller stones. And you have to wonder if maybe the Native Americans were levitating them using some kind of shamanistic power. Or maybe these beings that built them weren't the Native Americans. They were these giants that the Native Americans talked so much about who, you know, maybe they had a reason. to build these kind of things. Maybe they had a purpose for these structures. And as I've learned more and more about these stone structures, I've started to not put as much emphasis on the physical aspects of these things and the actual dimensions, but the energetic quality of these stones and the immense electromagnetic energy that's being conducted when a massive heavy stone like that
Starting point is 00:38:30 is propped up and pressuring, pushing, constantly pushing down on these smaller stones. It creates this energetic field, this piezoelectric force that some authors have theorized is really good for your plants. If you have some of these standing stones or pedestal boulders in your garden, you're going to be giving off a life regenerating force, a life of affirming energy that's inherent to living stone. Living stone not meaning that the stone's alive and thinking the same way a plant is. Living stone meaning that certain types of stone actually have a magnetic or energetic force that is measurable. You can measure it with the right devices. And it's not just pedestal boulders. I mean, there's so many of these amazing,
Starting point is 00:39:30 stone structures from stone chambers to standing stones. Obviously we have examples of petroglyphs, and it just makes you wonder what was going on here before the Puritans arrived. And I kind of hinted at giants, well, here in this particular part of the country, we have the lore of a giant name Hobomoke. Now, Hobomoke has a variety of stories associated with him. You hear everything about
Starting point is 00:40:07 him from, you know, he's the worst, most evil spirit to he's just a sort of misunderstood nature, spirit, kind of mischievous. And then other tribes talk about him like he's kind of like a
Starting point is 00:40:23 hero to a people that are lost now. And there's a story about Hobomoko, who was upset at the treatment of his people, and he stomped his foot down in the river, rerouting the Connecticut River. Now, this actually checks out on the geological record, and even to the human eye, you can see that the Connecticut River once flowed southward into what is the Quinepiac River right here. And some point in time, it took this very distinct turn east and then south towards what is now the Connecticut River's mouth at Old Saybrook. But it once came down into this deep harbor here in New Haven.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Now, that's the story that the natives give us. Obviously, there's an archaeological, or I'm sorry, a geological explanation for that. that. But if that was the only story, I'd be like, okay, whatever, but there's more. Not only did Hobamoko stomp his foot and reroute the Connecticut River, but he also created Sugarloaf Mountain. So what happened with Sugarloaf Mountain is that back in the day, the natives were upset. This giant beaver was greedy. He was taking. more than he needed. He was making life hard for the natives in the area.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So they called Hobomoko. They said, please, take care of this giant beaver. So Hobomoko killed the giant beaver and threw his body and the beaver's body became Sugarloaf Mountain. Again, you're like, okay, that's just a funny story. Well,
Starting point is 00:42:16 this took place in the Connecticut River Basin, which used to be known as Lake Hitchcock. that millions of years ago, the Connecticut River was actually a glacial lake that had giant beavers in it. Go figure. There were species of prehistoric giant beavers swimming in what is now the Connecticut River. And who knows how long these Native Americans have been on this continent.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Maybe they have some sort of experience of a giant beaver species. Maybe a giant beaver that was left over after the Ice Age. There are other stories about giant beavers. As far west as Montana, you hear about giant beavers at the Flathead Lake. So it's not uncommon to hear these stories of beavers becoming mountains or having something to do with the damage of a lake. Obviously, beavers are builders themselves, building these sort of dams and little huts under the water. But yeah, Hobomoko created this sugarloaf mountain. and Hobomoko had a brother.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Sometimes he's called his twin named Moshep. And there's other stories of Moshep in other parts of New England. These tribes tend to have similar names for the same being, but different stories of that being. So it can get a little confusing. Now, Hobomoko and Moshep according to one story, They fought thunderbirds, okay? They fought these thunderbirds, and Moschup was drowned,
Starting point is 00:44:03 and Hobomoko was killed by lightning attacks, and Hobomoko became what is now sleeping giant mountain. And as you can see from this picture, Tony, Sleeping Giant Mountain looks like a freaking man lying on his back. It just, from the north side, the south side, you're driving along I-91 northward. You can see the sleeping giant, hence why it's named as such. And they even quarried his shoulder in the 1800s.
Starting point is 00:44:36 But Hobomoko had his twin brother, Moshup, who became what is now West Rock Mountain. And there's a whole bunch of stories about West Rock Mountain from the guys who signed King Charles's death warrant hiding there to an actual Native American sacred stone structure that you see in the left corner of the screen there. There's also a story of people doing some weird magic rituals up there on the top of the mountain, all kinds of weird stories from the West Rock Mountain. and you have to wonder like, okay, are these mountains the bodies of ancient giants, right?
Starting point is 00:45:28 It kind of sounds silly at first, but when you consider that the Native Americans actually thought the pink granite that was around here was giants' flesh, and then you also take it to consideration that the founding fathers specifically chose that pink granite to be a part of the Lincoln Memorial, to be a part of the base of the Statue of Liberty, and also to be a part of the White House. So ancient giant stone,
Starting point is 00:46:05 according to natives, it's the flesh of giants, and these, you know, federal government is like, yeah, we need that specific type of granite. It just makes you wonder like, okay, why, what do they know about these giants, right? And I mean, like I said, there's
Starting point is 00:46:23 dozens of stories about these Native American giants. You know, I've only shared a few, and depending on where you are in New England, the stories do differ, but it's not just giants.
Starting point is 00:46:39 There are actual stories of stone, that eat people, that gobble people up. You'll be hiking in a certain part of New Hampshire, and if you're not careful, one of these stones might open up and pull you in. And, you know, that sounds weird. I don't think that there's like a rock monster eating people. I actually think that these stones in the right combination, in the right environment, are giving off an energy that's powerful enough to open an actual portal. And when you look at these stone chambers that we find all over New England, you have to wonder if maybe there was some thought about portals when they were creating these stone chambers.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Maybe these were for meditation. Maybe they were for astral projection. Maybe they were for giving birth. these stone chambers are aligned to certain specific days, I started thinking maybe, you know, maybe there's a, there's the thought, okay, we want to have our children born in a certain time of year. So we build a stone chamber, this stone womb, that the sun will come through this one little window on the day that, you know, it's time to conceive, and that's when we try to have a kid. And, you know, in maybe a more prehistoric culture, this would have made
Starting point is 00:48:10 sense. But either way, we have these stone chambers all over the place, and it's not just the stone chambers. There's a whole series of stone structures that have been described as spirit portals. Now, I'm not suggesting that these spirit portals are just lying in wait, open. You just walk through them at any time, I think they have to be activated to a certain degree. But when you see stone structures around the New England forests, and you see these triangle sort of depressions or cavities in between rocks, places where you can look and see the other side, like, light coming through,
Starting point is 00:49:10 those are spirit portals. What the Native Americans use them for outside of that symbolic context, I don't know, but there's a whole language of stone structures that once you start to identify this language as symbols, you can start to recognize maybe the energy of the place you're in. And one thing that I'm curious about is
Starting point is 00:49:38 how many of these stone structures or types of stone ceremonial sites are present or in proximity to things like Sasquatch sightings, dogman sightings, ghost sightings, I'm sure you're familiar with the stone tape theory where they have this idea that memories can get trapped in stone
Starting point is 00:50:01 or in physical objects and then somehow under the right vibration. I think you and I talked about this one time when you're on my show. And, you know, almost like a stored memory of light can get trapped in an object and then under the right vibrational circumstances,
Starting point is 00:50:19 it can almost be like released out and people present will visually see that energy. You know, I think there's something like that going on. And maybe the Native Americans even had a somewhat of a scientific understanding of this and could use these, stone structures reliably for that purpose, meaning, you know, as a right of passage, as a point of self-transformation, or even as a way to heal, right? So I've said a lot. What do you think, Tony?
Starting point is 00:50:56 Well, I think it's fascinating. And this concept, it reminds me a lot of, well, I had Derek Olson from Megalithic Marvels on the show because the one, well, the second time, because of Randall Carlson and what he said on Rogan. And how, like, when he said it, I was just like, and everybody knows what I'm talking about by now. I mean, it was like, amazing. Like, he's like, in a few months from now, they're going to be releasing information, you know, and, and, but what he said was that
Starting point is 00:51:28 they found that if you take certain shapes, put them in a certain pattern, it will, like, I think that he said that they had actually they made a generator that didn't run off the electricity or anything. It was just fueled by these shapes in a specific pattern. And so it's kind of very similar in a sense of what you're talking about where if it's placed the right way, it could, you know, turn into whatever, whether it's energy or a portal or some of that. And even along those lines of the portal aspect, it's a good thing you brought that up because there's, there is, there is, a lot of suspicion to me when it comes to the sightings and the experiences people have and what's
Starting point is 00:52:14 significant geographically speaking in those areas. Now, it's not a consistent thing. There's a lot of times that you have people having these experiences and it doesn't seem like, at least on the surface, doesn't seem like there's a whole lot to go with on a geographical level. But there are things like here in Tennessee, there's a certain cave that is rumored to be guarded by dogmen and that if you go into the cave, it is a portal of type. And it's not like it's open all a time kind of thing, but it is an active portal location that is guarded by dogmen. And that is why people have these experiences in those areas. And so it's not a far-fetched idea for me. and now, granted, you're on the show of weird.
Starting point is 00:53:02 So, I mean, we will talk about the weird stuff. But it definitely seems like there could be something there to it. And for me, it's like, you know, it's two sides of the same coin in the sense that I definitely think that, you know, these creatures could be coming from multiple different sources, but one of them being interdimensionality. could it be that there's some kind of traveling in between dimensions through portals? I think the ancients knew a lot more than we'd give them credit for. Like you mentioned about how the Native Americans, but I really think that there has been a time in human history where human beings had the ability to do things, technologically speaking,
Starting point is 00:53:55 that to us would seem as magic, but they were so far advanced with technology, and we lost that. And there's biblical references in the sense of the Tower of Babel. Do I think that the ancient people thought that they really could build a tower to heaven where God was? And do I think that if they really thought that God was threatened by that? No, I don't think that they were planning on building a tower to heaven
Starting point is 00:54:24 as much as I think that they were using technology of the day that they gained from fallen angels to do things that they weren't meant to do. And so, you know, there's a lot of different ways to look at it. And when people talk about these ancient civilizations and stuff and they don't want to bring up the biblical aspect or they want to bring the biblical aspect and nothing else, like, to me, it's like, let's all have the same conversation because I think essentially we are having the same conversation just from different vantage points. Like this is, there is an.
Starting point is 00:54:54 ancient past here that we haven't even remotely come close to understanding. And it's people like you going through these things and connecting dots and stuff that allows the conversation to be open. You mentioned about pseudoscience earlier, like, or no, pseudo-archology or something like that, forget what you said. But I mean, like, I don't think that's a bad thing. I just don't. I think anybody who is going off the beaten path of mainstream science, mainstream archaeology, mainstream anything is breaking ground because that's exactly how we got to where we're at today by going off the beaten path, by forging our own path in our existence, whether it's going from the East Coast United States and going through the wilderness of America to get to the West Coast, we've always done that. And so I don't
Starting point is 00:55:47 think it's a bad thing at all. And I encourage people to do those kind of things. So I think it's really cool what you're doing. And you're growing and learning from really, knowledgeable people. I looked up when you mentioned spirits in the, or spirits in stone, I looked at that book on, on Amazon, and it's forwarded by Graham Hancock. So I mean, like, you're, you're walking in these footsteps that people who I really respect a lot. I mean, obviously, I don't agree with Graham on everything. And I don't think Graham, to be honest with you, I don't think Graham would like me very much. We had a conversation. Just from what I hear from him talking to stuff, I just don't know if he would like me a whole lot. But I think he,
Starting point is 00:56:24 I have a lot of respect for them, and I think that you're doing something really cool with that. I don't think a lot of people are doing. Do you know if people are focusing on New England the way you are? Well, it's very nice of you to say that. Thank you, Tony. Yeah, the guy who wrote that book and got Graham Hancock to write the forward, he, I believe, either founded or is a part of a group called Nira, and that would be like New England Archaeological Research Association.
Starting point is 00:56:54 or something like that. So yeah, there are people who are professionals and trained in this realm that are approaching this subject. And they've written a few books, including the ones I've mentioned. There's a few others, one by James Gage and Mary Gage that's really good, that kind of is like a handbook for spotting these stone structures. They've pretty much cataloged like every type of stone structure. but they haven't found them all. And that's what's really fun for me is, like, the method, as I was saying before,
Starting point is 00:57:31 actually, I have a booklet available for anyone who's curious, anyone who wants to do this kind of thing themselves. It's called The Scene. That stands for the synchromistic exploration of the ever-expanding now, and it's a very short guidebook. You can download it as a PDF, and it will give you some tips and tricks on how to get out of your normal waking consciousness and into a dream-like state of consciousness
Starting point is 00:58:01 while you're awake. And why that's important is because our reality is not fixed in the waking consciousness. It's a blend of the dream subconscious mind and the conscious mind. So when you're approaching this kind of research, you want to find something that maybe's never been found before or something that's hidden, you know, why would you go about like searching for it using waking logic?
Starting point is 00:58:33 It hasn't worked for anyone else. Otherwise, they would have been found already. And, you know, a few months ago or saying this, it wouldn't have sounded as interesting, I guess. But now I have proof that the scene works. So if I could show you... What we found using those techniques, maybe that'll help people understand why they might want to check out my booklet. Not that this is some kind of plug, but this kind of stuff is just, like I said at the beginning, waiting for you to find it. And my booklet will give you some unconventional ways about searching for things.
Starting point is 00:59:15 But this is what I saw, and Tony's seeing this right now, from the side of the road, an approximately six foot tall men here, otherwise known as a standing stone, and you usually see these kind of things in Ireland. You see these things in England. You don't typically see these in New England. So we see this giant standing stone. We pull over,
Starting point is 00:59:40 and this is well into our journey of, you know, from the Manitow and other books that we've collected since. this was actually in October when we found this, just this past year. So I find this standing stone, I pull over, as you can see, there's Tara standing next to the standing stone. It's very tall. And I look beyond it, and there's this anchor-shaped stone, not anchor, an anvil, almost anvil-shaped stone from my first view. And I walk over to it, and I realize this is a person. boulder. Now a perched boulder is, well, it's when you see a boulder on top of another boulder. Usually the one on the
Starting point is 01:00:29 bottom is much larger than the boulder on top of it. And as I walked around this perched boulder, I saw that from the southward facing angle, it looks kind of like a bird. Not only is it bird shape, but the beak of the bird is facing exactly where the sun sets in the west. So this stone that's probably several tons, there's me standing
Starting point is 01:00:59 next to it, this stone that's probably several tons just somehow landed on this much larger boulder, and it happens to be shaped like a bird. And, you know, not only that, but it happens to be
Starting point is 01:01:15 situated right there on the Hammondasset line. So, you know, here we are driving along a road that I've been down many times and look over my left shoulder and there, there it is, just waiting for us to pull over and check it out. And this was all a few months, or about a year after we saved a bird in this same part of the state. we found a great blue heron on the side of the road.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And as you can see here, I kind of think that this bird stone looks like a great blue heron. And who knows, maybe, you know, our synchromistic exploration back then of saving the bird opened up this potential in the future of me finding the bird stone. As I said earlier,
Starting point is 01:02:08 you know, you turn your eye to nature and there are things, waiting to turn their eye to you and they have gifts and it's not scary you know we're we're so wrapped up in survivalism that we we think the woods is this evil place and it can be i mean i'm not going to sugarcoat it you can die in the woods there are dangerous things going on but nature itself is not this evil cannibalistic force it's just not at least in my experience people may have experiences that differ. But here's the Hammannacet line on the right there, Tony, for you.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And there's the stone structure. It's right there somewhere. I don't want to be too specific about where it is, but just for your eyes, you could see the map. And yeah, there's a history of these birdstones. Native Americans have been carving. these types of things, hand-sized birdstones for thousands of years. And here's this giant birdstone just waiting there for us to find. I think it also kind of is shape like the big
Starting point is 01:03:27 dipper. That's a little bit of a stretch, but considering it's astronomically aligned, who knows. Maybe it has a larger truth that it's portraying something about the seasons or or who knows. I'd like to go there at night to see what the sky looks like from above or from the base of this birdstone. But yeah, it's a journey that we've been on for a while now and I still have a lot more questions than I do answers. Places like the Newport Tower or the Kensington Rune Stone
Starting point is 01:04:09 certainly make you think like Templars or some group where over here building stuff and when you see a big standing stone like that and it kind of reminds me of what they have going on in England. We have all these
Starting point is 01:04:25 magical places and all of the lore surrounding those places is berries and leprechauns and over here we have the little people too they just go by different names like the Pukwaji or the Nakomo is what they are called. There's a few different
Starting point is 01:04:44 names for these creatures but you know it's all mirrored over here in New England just like it is over there in old England you don't hear as much about the Thunderbird over there but Have you ever heard of the being Americas, Tony? Do you know about this story?
Starting point is 01:05:07 America's? So the name America comes from allegedly Ameru or Amerikas. This is a dragon. This is a feathered serpent like Kuetsuquato, right? So Kuwetukwato was not the only feathered serpent. There was actually a feathered serpent named a. America. That's where America gets its name, believe it or not. We have all these cultures that have visited the Americas from the Chinese to some nations in Africa to some European
Starting point is 01:05:47 nations, from the Norse to the Welsh. And I started to think about this over the past few days, why is it that all these cultures that have the symbol of the dragon, not every culture has this dragon symbol, every culture has a snake, sure, some of them have flying stakes, but only a few specific cultures have this dragon symbol. And from what I understand, those very same cultures that have the dragon symbol are cultures that have been to America before Columbus. at some point in their history. I'm starting to think maybe the reason why all these cultures
Starting point is 01:06:32 are using that symbol of the dragon, they came to America at some point in ancient history and they don't want to share all the information about this whole land of resources and whatnot. So they encode it into myth with this story of the dragon. The Native Americans may have called this dragon
Starting point is 01:06:54 The Thunderbird, it may be a different being than the Thunderbird. You heard that story I told earlier about the Thunderbird hitting the giants with lightning bolts and turning them into mountains. I mean, in a different context, we could be talking about like a UFO battle there or some kind of mystical war, you know? And I think we have to be able to look at these ancient stories with that modern lens and also maybe with an ancient lens and kind of be flexible about our interpretation. but it's just, it doesn't seem like a coincidence that all of these peoples who have been to the Americas named after this dragon have this dragon symbol. I mean, not many people know that the Chinese possibly were the Olmec because their explorations of the Americas line up with when the Olmecs arrived in Mexico. There's also evidence that shows that the Chinese may have introduced the virus that wiped out the mound builders. People are starting to theorize that the reason why the mound builders were all gone was because there was some kind of plague that hit hit them several hundred years before the Spanish arrived.
Starting point is 01:08:14 That's why they entered Cahokia and it was just this empty. city. Well, it could possibly be because of this earlier wave of explorers from the far east or far west, depending on your perspective, right? There's also this incredible similarity between the cultures in the Incan culture in Peru with Japanese culture from the pottery to the symbology to even the language. The same thing goes with Chinese and Olmec. There are similarities between the written language and even some of the context in which conjugation of verbs and that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I'm not a linguist, but if you trace those certain mechanics of the language back, they're overlapping the Chinese and the Olmecs. So who knows? Again, this is all mystery, but it's all kind of started for me at Mystery Hill. Reverse back before Tara and I went to Woodstock, two years before that, my friend Jay and I were listening to, well, we were listening to the guy from missing 411 on a little road trip back from Maine to Connecticut. And I said, oh, we're not too far from Mystery Hill. Let's stop over there. And we stopped over Mystery Hill for people who don't know is also called American Stonehenge. And back then I had no
Starting point is 01:09:54 clue, no context. All I knew is that this thing was called Stonehenge. And we didn't end up going and hiking it. We just went into the little museum area where they have some of the artifacts displayed. And it's funny how hindsight you can see all this stuff, but like when you're actually there, or for me, when I was there, you know, I was just looking at rocks. I wasn't thinking about what these things actually were. And now I'm with everything I know, I'm like, holy crap, like that planted the seed for what I'm doing right now. Seeing that, you know, Viking ruin on a stone that they found in New Hampshire, you know, that imprinted itself in my mind. And now I've been unraveling all of this stuff. Not only did they have strange inscriptions on rocks, they had these stones called Manitow stones. And the Manitow stones were stones that were shaped
Starting point is 01:10:58 in the silhouette of a human man. So there would be like a sort of head and shoulders. And if you have a keen eye, keep your eyes open next time you're on a hike, if you live in the northeast or even anywhere else in the United States, I'm sure they have these stones all over the place. They just haven't been noticed. But keep your eyes open. If you ever see a very distinct shape of a head and shoulders kind of shaped stone,
Starting point is 01:11:26 almost like a oven kind of, what are the wooden things you put in your oven, you know, a paddle, pizza maker thing. It kind of looks like that shape. That's a Manitow stone, and under the right circumstances, you may be able to open up a portal with that Manitow stone. I found a Manitow stone that was shaped like a human head. I could show you a picture of it. It's kind of a funny look at, but all of these are just wading in the forest, under leaf cover,
Starting point is 01:12:06 slowly being taken by the roots. They're just out there waiting for people to come and discover them. I think the most important thing for me that I've learned over the past year is that we need to begin to cherish and revere our earth.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Our earth is created by our creator, our redeemer, and it says in the Bible that we need to be stewards of the land. And I think by being stewards of the land, we need to recognize all of the different aspects from the rocks to the trees, to the birds and the animals and everything else in between and really have, take responsibility for a role in those beings' lives and their roles in ours.
Starting point is 01:13:03 because for a long time humans have had this kind of perspective of like it's ours for the taking or it's ours to make the most of but I think that inflex that mindset that materialist mindset is only going to lead to more problems you know the kind of problems we're seeing in society are just an outgrowth of our wrong relationship with each other, and that's an outgrowth of our wrong relationship with the earth, really. And I don't mean to sound all hippie on you, but as somebody was raised Catholic and kind of moved away from the Bible and then came back to Christianity through my own research
Starting point is 01:13:56 and my own finding, there are parts of the Bible that have really spoke to me, and you're seeing the Manitow stone now, Tony, this is the one that's shaped like a face. There are certain parts of the Bible that have spoke to me about this particular concept that we're talking about when it comes to being a steward of the land and taking care of this earth, right? I think the stones, they're not, even though the Puritans went around naming them, oh, devil's tombstone and devil's furnace and all this devil's stuff, I really, I think that that was just like a superstitious thing. Like we really, as Christians today, shouldn't, you know, shouldn't think of these natural ceremonial sites as evil. We should think of them
Starting point is 01:14:53 as cathedrals of the forest, places where we can commune with God through nature. And I think that's what the Native Americans were doing and you know there are so many mysterious aspects to Christianity like the miracles and these great healing events and prophecies well all of those things happened amongst the Native Americans too it's just they didn't have the Bible you know they they had all of the same kind of relationship qualities with their God that many Christians wrote about having so I think when when we can get over that sort of of materialist reflex that we have as human beings, we'll start to see beings like the dog man and the Sasquatch and the moth man, I think we'll see them fade out. And I think we'll see
Starting point is 01:15:46 beings like the leprechaun and the elf and the gentler strange beings being more present. Not that the elves are all good because I know there's all those stories about the elves kidnapping kids and I'm not all I'm not about that. Okay, don't touch my kids. Don't touch Tony's kids or anyone's kids. Stay away from our kids elves. But I do think that these animals, these strange fringe beings, I think they're more a part of the environment than we give credit. And I think the environment is this living being that has the ability to manifest a creature like a Bigfoot if it needs to, to sort of correct the relationship that humans have with the environment. I mean, think about it. Native Americans, they had a lot of respect for Bigfoot. They would leave him be.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Now people go in the woods and Bigfoot throws a damn rock at your head. What happens? You run to your car and you go call Tony and tell them what happened. I think there's a certain truth to that of like these beings are reminding us what we're supposed to be as human beings. And maybe that means staying out of the big wild wilderness for a little while, give it enough time and space to recuperate before we go back into it and take whatever we want. Because we've been taking, take, and taken for a long time. And I think that, again, not trying to sound like a hippie on a soapbox here,
Starting point is 01:17:33 but I think that a lot of these paranormal strange phenomena are like mother nature responding to our sort of ignorance about this energy-related. relationship we have with the environment, you know. And it's not any one person's fault. It's a combination of everybody's sort of combined efforts, all these cities and electro-smog signals. I mean, it all has a detrimental effect that's gradual. And as that effect becomes more, you know, it graduates more and more, up the scale, we're going to see an equal and opposite response from Mother Nature.
Starting point is 01:18:23 And maybe that takes the form of weird phenomena, you know, unexplained phenomena. Maybe that's how Mother Nature sets the balance back. What do you think, Tony? That's an interesting concept. I never really even heard that before. But it's definitely an interesting concept. I think that I think the,
Starting point is 01:18:47 what you just kind of laid out today is a reason for people to have a newfound respect for nature, but also when they're out there to look around and keep your eyes open, a new reason to discover mysteries that are buried in our history out there. You know, like a lot of times people,
Starting point is 01:19:08 you know, that listen to my show when they go out hiking, the first thing they're thinking is, well, man, I wonder if the bigfoot's out here. or I hope there's no dog man out here. But maybe they start looking around and the very rocks that they're hopping over looking for Bigfoot might be the treasure
Starting point is 01:19:21 they've been looking for the entire time. And I think that what you just did today was kind of hopefully spark that new found interest in our past and the symbols and the leftovers that are there. What I'm going to do is the PDF you are referencing I have here with all the pictures and stuff. I'm going to post that with the episode
Starting point is 01:19:42 description in that way people can check. If that's all right with you, I'm assuming, you did say people can look it up, right? Yeah, let me, I'll send you the links because there's two, there's two PDFs people can purchase from me, and then there's photos that I don't mind sharing with you if you want to give like the listeners some context, some visual context. But the PDF itself, those are available on my Kofi store. I can give you a link to that. I have the scene edition one, which describes my method of searching this stuff out and how to
Starting point is 01:20:17 kind of go about exploring. And it's a fun travel guide because it's a travel guide that doesn't, it's not limited to anyone place like most travel guides. You could use this travel guide anywhere you are. And then the scene two is basically like, again, like proof of concept, right? I basically show all of the things that we found using those methods. In short time, too. I mean, it's only been a year since the first one was published. And yeah, I'm just so happy to be a part of this community. Tony, you've been so kind to me on my podcast, joining me several times.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And your audience has been awesome. I've definitely received some folks from your audience. who listen to my show now and even a guy who's been, you know, two or three people have been a guest on your show, Appalachian Intelligence and Seb Land have been guests on my show. So I love being a part of this community with you, brother. I love trailing or blazing this trail, you know, that we're all blazing in the podcast community.
Starting point is 01:21:28 And yeah, I think, you know, as far as the stone symbols go, there are so many things you can look for folks. I mean, from chambers to cairns to pedestal boulders, I mean, there are so many. What really, I haven't even mentioned the stone walls, but the stone walls were really what kind of kept reminding me because there are so many. I mean, you're from Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:21:52 You've seen these stone walls. They have them down there in Pennsylvania, but they're everywhere up here, like in front of people's yards. and, you know, to me, when I see them, I don't think farms, I don't think colonies. I think, you know, this is the spine of the Native American landscape because, well, there's plenty of evidence that shows that they, in fact, built all of those stone walls. And the colonists just kind of came along and added to it.
Starting point is 01:22:22 But anyways, there's so much to find, man, there's so much to find out there. and, you know, just be careful if you're out there exploring. Sometimes these sites can have spooky aspects to them for sure. There's a reason why they call this spooky archaeology. Yeah, well, I mean, throughout history and stuff, especially like these ancient rock structures and stuff, people who have settled into areas, I mean, they use them. They viewed them as spiritual places anywhere from,
Starting point is 01:22:57 Native Americans to, you know, witches having, you know, seances and stuff. And so these places are talked about holding energy, but then the very energy that people brought to them spiritually could be still retained there as well. So definitely spooky is a understatement for some of these places, for sure. But I'm looking forward to getting out more and more myself once Jack gets down here. I've been chomping at the bit because him and I were supposed to be doing all these YouTube videos where we go out, you know, just to these areas and do like an action vlog, self-filming kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:23:39 And I had to go mess it up and move to Tennessee. And so I, but he's he's now moving down here with me and to work with me and for me. So when he gets down here, though, one of the things we're going to jump stuff, start is the effort on the video front of things. And, you know, I think throughout my entire career podcasting, I've neglected the video side of things a lot. And it's because I just, I'm not good at everything, and I especially am not good at everything operating expeditiously. I can kind of be very slow when it comes to the video stuff. So the idea of taking that on was too daunting. But now that I have an extra set of hands. We're going to start trying to do more video stuff when it comes to
Starting point is 01:24:27 this show, creating maybe some live news segments on the YouTube channel where we go over news articles from the blog that my wife post to. I'd love to be a field reporter where you guys are just like, and now we're going to patch in Mark and you just play like a three minute video of me in like a field like, I found another stone structure. I've got another rock guys. Back to you in the studio. But yeah, I mean, part of that is going to going out, you know, we have the Smoky Mountains right here. I mean, I literally can see the smoking mountains from my house. Every day I drive by them, as long as it's not cloudy, I see the layers upon layers. I'm like, what kind of mysteries are out there? What's lost? I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 01:25:09 All those smoky mountains are made of quartz, as far as I've learned, and quartz is definitely one of these energetic capacitors, you know, is just beaming with energy, pulling it in, sending it out. The whole Appalachian mountains are a form of crystalline quartz. But I did want to point out before we let each other go here, there are so many petroglyphs. And I loved that interview you did with the Appalachian intelligence guys. But I wanted to point one out to you in case you didn't know. Have you ever heard of the Bat Creek Stone from Bat Creek, Tennessee? No. Please talk to me. right on. So in Tennessee, they found this really strange stone with what looks like runic carvings on it. And you can find it most likely, hopefully in Bat Creek, Tennessee. I don't know how far that is from you, but maybe that'll be a subject of exploration on one of your video journeys.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Maybe you guys could go see what else is over there in Bat Creek. Wow, I guess I'm supposed to talk here. I'm looking at it online. Oh, man. No, I have never heard of it. And I'm trying to figure out where exactly it is. Okay, so Loudoun County. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:26:32 I'm not far from Loudoun County. Okay. That's interesting. I think I'm still learning the counties. In Tennessee, they put a lot more emphasis on counties than they did in Pennsylvania. You know, like, when I get, when I get into my county, like, it just, it feels different. The vibes different because the way they just do think, the way they govern down here is a lot different than in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Well, that's a lot to do with the sheriff, I imagine, right? A lot, yeah. I've never seen so many sheriffs in my entire life, man. Like, they're everywhere. You got the town police. You got the sheriff everywhere. Every time I drive somewhere, I'm seeing a police officer of some sort. It's, they're all over.
Starting point is 01:27:13 But it's, I dig it. I love living here. I'm going to check this out for sure. Mark, before we get out of here, tell people again where they can find all your stuff, podcast, PDF, all that stuff. And I will leave the links in the description of this episode as well. Thank you. Yeah, it's in the description, folks.
Starting point is 01:27:32 But if you have trouble finding it, you can find it at my family thinksomecrazy.com. You'll also find my podcast there. You can listen to the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and YouTube, Rock Finn. We're on all of the sort of support platforms like Patreon. If you guys are so kind to do so, we really appreciate it. So yeah, Tony, thank you so much, brother. I have like four podcasts I do. So I'm not going to plug them all.
Starting point is 01:28:02 I'll just say go to my family thinks some crazy.com and you'll see all of the shows I do. Yeah, go there. And then from there, you can navigate your path as you, choose. So yeah, check it out, everybody. My family thinks I'm crazy. Mark, it's been a blast. Well, that's the show, but I really hope you enjoyed it. If you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share the show. Just share the show. If you enjoyed it, that's the best thing you can do to help the show grow, share the show. If you didn't enjoy the show, share it anyways. Tell all your friends how much of a loser I am and say, hey, you guys should
Starting point is 01:28:36 definitely listen to this so we can all get together on Saturday night and talk about how much of a loser this guy in his show is. Either way works for me, I'm fine with it. But recently, a lot of people have been sharing the show and we greatly appreciate it. We put out heaters. You guys have been sharing the heaters and we greatly, greatly appreciate it. All right, friends, until next Tuesday, stay safe. Take care and remember, the truth will set you free, but first, it'll piss you off. Bye.

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