The Confessionals - 564: Entities In The Technology

Episode Date: July 18, 2023

In Episode 564: Entities In The Technology, we are joined by PJ and Abby from the  Conspiracy Pilled podcast. This episode came about through a connection made by a mutual listener on Twitter, leading to a fascinating discussion about the eerie occurrences experienced during their show when delving into certain topics. We explore the bizarre instances where technology seems to go haywire at precisely the most astonishing moments, almost as if in response to discussions on subjects like Nephilim, Dogman, and other mysterious phenomena. Throughout this episode, we had three peculiar incidents of tech issues—two of which will undoubtedly leave you wondering if it was a coincidence or if there is really something to the claims being made about entities messing with our technology.Conspiracy Pilled Website: conspiracypilled.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinCome Meet Tony:1. Smoky Mountain Bigfoot ConferenceTickets: https://bit.ly/3l1wZHR2. LIVE SHOW in Gatlinburg, TN!Tickets: https://bit.ly/3IC4IkxWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0Tony's Studio Equipment: linktr.ee/mystudiogearSPONSORSGET Private Internet Access: piavpn.com/confessionalsGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals50" for 50% off plus the first box ships for free!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGET FIRSTLEAF: tryfirstleaf.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelAre you a military veteran struggling with thoughts of suicide?Contact Watchman Readiness Corps for REAL help. A veteran-run organization that is designed to help through hands-on survival training.Website: wrc.vetEmail: [e-mail]: [phone]Instagram: wrc_survivalFacebook: colbywrcvet

Merkel Media This was all circulating around the base That a giant had been killed But no one was supposed to talk about it I saw three long, bony fingers Reach up underneath the door Curl up to grab it and then disappear

When he came over to me Dude he slithered over to me The giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen And he starts running and firing at this giant With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast, and spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face, they basically decapitated. Something pulling at my leg, and I look over, and there are two small, and they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reach my hand into this bush, and I touch air, because I know I'm seeing a monster.

Welcome to the show, everybody, listening to The Confessionals, Pott. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you've a crazy wild experience, you want to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is contact at theconfessionalspodcast.com. That's contact at the confessionalspodcast.com or go to the website, theconfessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section and you can reach me that way as well. Either way works from me, just get a hold of me. Welcome to another show, friends. If you want to hear more of these shows on a weekly basis, go to the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the join button, become a member, get access to all the bonus content. Every Thursday we come out with a member episode. And if you sign up today, you can get access to years of bonus episodes and future years of bonus episodes right at the confessionalspodcast.com slash join. You also get access to those episodes on the show app in the app store and on the website. Thanks for being here, friends. We have a good show coming up. We have PJ and Abby from Conspiracy Pilled Podcast coming on the show.

It's interesting how this came together because we had a listener. a mutual listener, connect us on Twitter because PJ and Abby had some weird things happening on their program, especially when you talk about certain topics. It seems like technology goes haywire. It's almost on demand when you talk about, I don't know, Nephlam, dog man and other things. And we kind of talk about all that stuff on this episode and much more. And while we were talking about this stuff, we had tech issues. Three, actually, one's explainable, but two leaves you scratching your head. and we talk about all those kind of things on this show.

Is it possible that when you're talking about certain topics, that entities can inhabit actual electronic devices? I would say yes. But before we get into this episode, let's talk to you about the shape of shadows. That's the film we're coming out with, The Shape of Shadows, where me and my team went to Utah to a property called Space Wolf Research

that butts up against Skinwalker Ranch. We spent a week out there doing our investigation and we uncovered some gnarly things. And that film is coming out August 19th. It's premiering on the shape of shadows.com. That's the shape of shadows. That is where the film's premiering. It will not be on Amazon. It will not be on Apple.

It will not be on Tubu. Tube initially, it's all going to be done through Merkel Media Productions. So if you guys want to watch this premiere, that's where it's going to be at. You can't do anything right now. Probably by next Tuesday, we're going to have the ability to have you guys signing up to purchasing your tickets for the premiere. But until then, keep it in the back of your mind, put it on your schedules. August 19th, we are doing the premiere of The Shape of Shadows.

I promise you, you're going to love it. And in the meantime, if you want, go ahead and watch Expedition Dogman. That is on Amazon, Apple TV, 2B, and several other platforms. So if you want to watch Expedition Dog Man and kind of get a refresher of what we're doing and kind of the style that we're going for, you can watch that film as well. But today, we got ourselves

Conspiracy Pilled Podcasts coming up right now. All right, we got ourselves some special guests on the show. We got PJ and Abby from Conspiracy Pilled. How are you guys? Doing good. How are you doing, Tony? You almost called me Merkel. I did almost call you Merkel.

Listen, that's a truck driver in you because that's, that's, That's what we do. You're like, oh, Merkel, you know, get over here and check my lights for me. It's a military thing, too. You just get so used to calling her by their last name. Gotcha. So, yeah, it's just stuck in my head.

Abby, how are you? I'm good. I have two first names, so feel free to, you know. Abby or Libby, either one. Oh, yeah. You know, it's funny you say that because I hit record on another podcast with the Kill the Mockingbirds guys, Joel Thomas. and Sean Chris.

And when I hit record to do that episode, it hit me. I was like, they both have two first names for their name, first and last. And I pointed that out on that recording, so now we got another person. But anyways, you guys here have a podcast called Conspiracy Pilled, and we ran into each other on Twitter, if I remember correctly. PJ, you started kind of recalling that story. I said, hang on a second. Let's hit record first.

So that was like an hour ago. So let's get in that conversation. We've been having great conversations off, off camera, or off, yeah, off camera, off, yeah, off camera, off recording. But yeah, so we had a, we had a podcast a few months ago. It was, what was it? It's had some crazy title. It's a vampires, werewolves, Nephlim, oh my, something like that. Oh, man.

And it was, it was right after we started having, like, these issues, I started having issues of my internet. So I've got like an Ethernet and then I've also got a Wi-Fi hotspot as a backup. So I pay for two different forms of internet because one goes out or the other goes out. Well, that night, the one dropped as soon as we started recording. So I stopped, hooked up my Wi-Fi, and then we started going again. And then that just kept cutting out and cutting out and cutting out. And it took us, I don't know how long, two or three, four hours almost before we even got to start recording the episode.

We did, we live stream all of our stuff. This was the only episode so far that didn't get live streamed. and we ended up recording until like two or three in the morning because we just couldn't get this to work. And then it took us uploading it and uploading it and uploading it for the next 24 hours before one of them didn't corrupt or didn't have an issue. It was the craziest time I've had ever trying to put out a single episode. And one of our main listeners, shout out to bookstore Thor on Twitter,

had tagged you in a post saying that you had a similar issue with like tech going crazy. when you talk about something important. Because we were talking about a certain cryptid. Part of the episode was talking about a certain cryptid that I have had years of issues talking about. Like, tech goes nuts almost every single time I've done a podcast on, I'll just say it. And then we'll see what happens. Whoa. Whoa.

Whoa. I know. I know. We'll see if it works. But yeah, no, I've had crazy, crazy bad luck with talking about that subject. Wow. Yeah, so shout out to him or the listener for doing that and connecting us. And I remember, I couldn't remember exactly how we got connected.

I remember seeing you guys on the calendar. I'm like, oh, man, I kind of remember how that happened. I don't remember. I'm glad you remember. But so, yeah, what happened with us is, again, Joel Thomas from Kill the Mockingbirds. he was talking about like Nephlam portal babies. I actually think I called the episode I did with him called Nephlin Portal Babies.

But he was going around talking about this interdimensional aspect of Nephlam, going into other realms, which is very real. And the story I'm working on touches on that, but much more. And he started talking about this on other people's podcasts and his own. And every time he talked about it, there was technical difficulties.

Like Crypto's at the Korn podcast, he was talking with them. And they have a similar setup with you where they have multiple internet stuff. I'm just like, I just got one. I don't know. But like everything went out. Even like the technology itself, not just the internet, but the technology itself failed. And it was like Justin, who's a super smart guy, he's a biologist and does all this weird stuff. like he was like it's literally impossible for this to have happened yet it happened and and then

it happened on another podcast i forget who but uh so joel he comes down here and he starts talking about this nonsense in my studio and uh and so we're like okay so it's not going to and i even told him i said why don't you just come on down to the studio and record here get it out it's not going to in here. I don't think I even said that to him, but I'm like, it's not, and I knew he didn't think, I knew he thought that I didn't think was going to happen. I was just like, whatever, bro. Like, you know, put up or shut up, come on down. We'll make a good podcast episode for everybody. Everybody will be happy and I'll get a podcast out of it, and you're going to be proven wrong, you know? And he comes down, him and Sean, it was the episode I was telling you about

where I connected dots of their names. And we did the whole recording. We did the whole recording four hours. It was like four hours of a recording. And I think it was four hours. It was long. And before we started recording, I couldn't get the... Something was wrong with my roadcaster.

I forget how all this went now. I forget how all this went. I don't think it wasn't the roadcaster, something else. Anyways, long story short, I had some issues. We started recording. And somewhere in the middle of the recording, everything just stopped recording.

And we didn't know it. And so all we had was the audio off of the cameras that were running. And that audio is trash. But that's what I wound up using, like two hours in and it switches over. And we actually recorded something special. We're just like, okay, at this point, you're going to hear a drop an audio quality. and here's what happened. And I didn't think it was going to have it, but it happened. And long story short, though, how many times can I say that? The roadcaster got fried. And I had to buy a new roadcaster.

So the roadcaster that we were using that got fried sits on my shelf over here. It lights up. So it's a nice little decorative thing on the shelf. So when people, when people come in studio and they're on video, behind them, there's a roadcaster. It's not operable. It just looks nice. That's the roadcaster. And had to buy a new one. So we thought that, we thought that Abby's roadcaster fried yesterday. So she's on the road. She's recording from a hotel room right now.

And we couldn't, she couldn't get a roadcaster turn on for hours yesterday that she brought with her. Unbelievable. So we thought we were going to like mirror your story. What is going on? It's almost like there are demons that like to operate in the dark. They don't like being named.

They don't like being called out. And they like throwing up any interference that they Ken. I'm coming for you, demons. I'm coming for you. Like seriously, like, this is, this is where it gets fun for me. Okay. I like exposing darkness and I like, it gives me an adrenaline rush to know that we might be talking about something that is making, like, if you're in another realm, right, like say we're in another realm, all of a sudden we're like a beacon that's just shining real bright and everything that's dark and evil just turns ahead and looks at us because we're glaringly obviously there.

And it's like, I feel like that's what we're kind of, we're kind of touching on. And I'm down for it. You know, like, that's kind of like what I'm here to do. So, yeah. So you guys, what happened after that, though? Did you guys have to get new equipment or did it just start magically working the next time or what? We've had so much stuff happen, including this week. This week, actually the last two weeks have been.

kind of nuts with the tech stuff going on. But even this week, so again, both my internet started working again shortly after this. They've been working up until last week. And then my fiber internet, whatever, that went out. It's still out. I guess they're tearing up all the fiber in my town. So at least I know what's going on with that one. And then we were going to do a show a week ago.

And right when we went to record, my internet cut out. And for the next four or five days, it was out. and I called, so it's like an AT&T Wi-Fi hotspot generator. I spent three hours on the phone with AT&T at one point, and we got to the point where they said, your SIM card isn't even on file. We don't know how you ever ran Internet because your whole SIM card data is deleted.

It's not in our system. We don't know how to help you see you. And they literally just hung up on me, didn't help me, three hours on the phone. And Abby, do you want to tell them the next part of this? Because this was so weird to me. So we kind of came to the feeling. PJ kept telling me everything I touch breaks, not just this internet, but everything remotely technological. And there are things about the spiritual world that do influence the physical world. And one of those ways is magnetism, electricity and things like that. And PJ is a person who wears shoes more than your average person, wear shoes inside. And I started to think, you're not grounding. You've got something affecting you. And it's building up in your body all this.

And I said, just go touch grass. Just take your shoes off. Go play outside with your kids. Come back in, see if it works. So he did it. He came back in. And he's like, it's working now. Unreal.

Yeah. It was so weird. I was like, all right, I'll go walk around barefoot for a while, you weirdo. I'll do this hippie stuff. Dude, I tried everything for days. I was getting like so defeated. But she's right. Everything I touch, I drive a truck for a living.

The trailer lights stopped working when I got close to the trailer. But if I backed the way they worked again, my GPS would stop working randomly. There was three or four or five things that happened. Like every single day that I went to work that week, something different electronical with my truck or GPS or something malfunctioned. Or my computer did weird stuff. I had files that were extremely important to what we do. Whole parts of them went missing. And I had them backed up on my hard drive and on the cloud.

And sections were just gone. Like important sections were gone. That's a lot of weird stuff. So when the files are gone like that, are they gone for Abby too? Is she checking? Like, yep, it's gone? Or is it just for you? So these weren't ones that were on a shared one.

These were just like ones that I had been notes that I've been saving over the years on different topics that I've researched. And one of the things was something I'd written down years ago. And what was weird with that one is I knew that I had sent that one in an email to someone else. So I actually called them and they had the same file in their email that I was seeing on my computer, but their file was full. So I asked them to print it. I'm like just I want it on paper. I don't want it digitally, but I need what it says on the paper and then just give me like, they emailed me the digital version, but then they also printed it off for me. So had a lot of, yeah, that was all that's happened in the last couple of weeks. And that one was a vision PJ had had

years ago that he wrote down that we, we started to, it came up again. we were talking about and he was trying to remember what he had seen. So it's just crazy that that in particular was gone. And it was only the part where I wrote down what the dream was that I had. Because there was other stuff in this file. It was just the dream. We were digging to this one research and I was like, holy crap, this reminds me of a dream I had when I was 20. And I want to remember what it was because it just struck me so strong.

Like, it was like, I don't even know how you would describe it. It was like deja vu on steroids. Like I just instantly was 20. years old again and reliving this dream that I had that I felt so important I wrote it down years later and that part just the part with the dream gone. It was just weird. I don't know. What was the dream? Oh, is it a vulnerable? Do you have to get vulnerable right now?

We could. I mean, so yeah, no, it's it's hard to explain. And again, I probably should have pulled this up. But it's okay. Don't touch anything electric right now. Just do it from memory. In my dream, I had moved into this new house and there was this CD that I found in this truck, in my truck as I was driving to move into this new house. Never saw the CD before, and it started playing these weird noises. So I threw it out the window. I was like, that's weird.

And then I get to the new house and I start moving in and I turn on the TV and there's all this pyramid stuff. And as I'm watching the pyramid stuff, I get a phone call, but it's not my phone. It's like a phone that was hidden in the apartment. So I grabbed the phone and I was talking to these people like, who the hell put this phone in my apartment? Why are they calling me? And I look over and I see the CD that I threw out of the window of my truck in my CD player.

Like someone had placed it in my apartment. And I was, it freaked. Like that's the part that freaked me out in the dream. And I remember saying, who the hell did this? And the person the other end of the line says, they did. And it hangs up. And I don't know why that dream to me freaks me out, but when I relive it, it's, like, even right now it's giving me chills. And I have no idea what it means.

But it's so, it's one of those dreams I'm still trying to figure out because I feel like, I feel like it's important. I don't know how to describe that to people because I can't even think or talk about it without getting chills down my spine. And it was a dream I had 12 years ago. So again, I don't know. Maybe that was kind of lame, but I couldn't remember the facts of the dream till I looked up that file. It was like, as soon as we were talking about something that triggered that memory in me, the rest of the night, I was freaked out. I was really freaked out and I didn't know why.

And then I was especially more freaked out when I was like, I know where this file is. I'll at least look it up. Like that part of it, gone. That's weird. That's so weird. It was really weird, man. Like in the dream, it parallels the dream in the sense that the CD you threw, it was gone, then it was back.

And the same thing with the, in this reality, the writing, you, you, you, you threw it on this digital copy. It was gone. Now it's back. There's like this weird paralleling with the dream itself in reality or this. I'm getting in the habit of saying this reality. And when I talk to people that, yeah, I'm not real familiar with, I don't know if they're like, what do you mean this reality?

We're into all the high strangeness stuff. So I think you guys kind of jive a little bit. least. There's multiple realities, what I'm saying. But it's interesting. Now, what kind of weight do you put into dreams? I got thoughts on the whole electrical glitch stuff, which is a, it's a real phenomenon people go through. Yeah, absolutely is. But what do you think this whole dream? I mean, I'm still trying to interpret it. I don't know. I just know that what was weird to me is the thing that triggered the dream was a picture of a pyramid. And in my dream, it was a background piece.

It was just on the TV, like the history channel was playing something about ancient pyramids. Again, this was when I was 20. I wasn't into conspiracy stuff back then. I didn't know anything about pyramids in Alaska and Antarctica and things like that. But in my dream, it was a pyramid like in Antarctica or something like that, which I didn't even know was a thing. So that part's weird enough. But I really don't know what it means. I just know that there's something.

it's one of those things that caught my attention and I've been spending the last few weeks thinking on it, praying on it because I feel like it's important somehow and I feel like it's going to reveal itself to me somehow and I know Abby felt the same way when I told her. But no, I think dreams are important. I've had other dreams like that

that have been turned out to be important or things that have happened in dreams that actually happen in life later. So I tend to not ignore those things anymore. When I was younger, I ignored them. And they almost cost me my life twice. that I ignored something that, yeah, was revealed to me. So, sorry, go ahead, Abby.

I didn't need to cut you off. I think there's a couple different types of dreams. You generally know that they're important when you have them. So PJ's had a couple of just seeing something before it happened, seeing a warning about something that he needed to be aware of a car accident and then another issue. But the other one is when you have a weird dream and it's weird and you know it's important, but you can't, you don't know what it means. exactly what PJ is going through. And when you see those types of dreams in the Bible,

the person who has the dream is not the person who interprets it. Right. It's always an interpreter character. You have Joseph interpreting dreams for Pharaoh. You have Daniel interpreting dreams for Nebuchadnezzar. You have Daniel having a dream. And then, what is it, Gabriel has to come and tell him what it meant. Right. I always thought that was interesting in the Bible, too, where it's like people, a lot of people just have dreams all the time. So, like, I feel like Nebuchadnezzar and these people had to have had that same feeling, right? Where they're like, I know this is important and that's why I had to seek out an interpreter. Because it's not just a normal dream where it's like, I'm in front of the classroom in my underwear again.

You know, can I get somebody to interpret this dream? This dream. You know, it seems like they had to have woken up. And for me, I've had two in particular that have never left my, well, more than that, but two around this, two at this time, this dream and another dream that have stuck in my head and I woke up in a cold sweat from both of them. Like there was nothing, I told you that one. There was nothing like that crazy in it, but it just terrified me. And it wasn't even like there was something chasing me or somebody trying to kill me. It was just, I knew I was being watched and I knew that what was watching me was something inhuman.

It was just weird. The other piece of that dream that you told me was that when you were on the phone, they were like, did you get the instructions? Why haven't you done it yet? Yeah, there was something weird about that. Like they, I was supposed to know what they were talking about. talking about. It seemed like the people on the phone in the dream expected that he could understand the words on the CD, but he didn't. And then... It's just like white noise. Yeah. So, weird stuff. Yeah. No, so here's the thing. I mean,

the dreams, I think in our modern society, we're kind of just told dreams are dreams, you know? There's nothing. Right. Like, we've gotten very... far away from being grounded in any kind of spiritual mindset as a society as a whole. And I think we're starting to turn back towards a spiritual mindset, though I think that there are errors along the way that some people are pursuing. I think as a general collective, I think people are getting the point where it's like, wait a second, this is so crazy, there has to be a spiritual component now. And I think it's allowing people to maybe be more open to dream dreams and dream interpretation that maybe dreams are more than just your brain going on imaginary trips

for entertainment while you rest. And so I've been like that myself. I mean, when I first started the podcast, if somebody emailed me about a dream, I was not that excited. I was like, well, good, I guess. Like, why do I care what you're doing? Why do I care what you're dreaming about, you know? Like, and then it wasn't too long after I started the podcast. I started thinking about a lot of different things differently. And one of the things was just looking at my own personal faith. And I'm like, wait a second. Like, if you, if you look at the Bible, like, dreams are very important. And so maybe I should stop being a jerk and start actually thinking about dreams a little differently. And, and then, you know, I've been talking about this,

this new story I'm working on for a long time now. And it does have a heavy dream influence. And not as in like, I'm going to take people down a trip that it's like, oh, let me tell you about this person's dream. And that's why it's entertaining. No, no, no. What I'm talking about is, is people thinking that they're dreaming and finding out they're not dreaming at all, that they're just actually in other realms. And I think that there is a very real, the only way I call it right now, Now, probably because it's probably like 60-40. It's probably 60% because it's clickbait, 40% because it's accurate. But I call it mind portals.

And it's because I really don't know how else to describe it other than our brains are much more complicated than anything we could ever imagine. And they take us places. Like we think of sitting in a vehicle where our body is in a vehicle. What if our brain is a vehicle and we're housing the vehicle? it's it's um it's just some things i'm working on but uh interesting uh so you you're talking about nephlem on that episode that everything glitched out on right yeah yeah what do you remember and a certain cryptid which which is interesting because the certain cryptid and nephalum and glitching and other realms and stuff is all very common themes of my show recently um

Do you remember the context of which you guys were talking about that was on that episode? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So Goliath is a Nephulam and all of a sudden, everything glitched or what? No, so actually the context, it started off, somebody sent me this wild, insane thread on some weird website that was a, it started off animal, human hybrids. Every story starts that way. Every good story. I wish I remembered the name of this website. It was like hidden history or something like that.

And you know what was interesting is right after we finished the episode. Actually, the moment we went to record the episode that morning, the website was up. When we went to record the episode, that website was down for the next week. And then it came back. And other people were messaging me saying, hey, that website that I sent you that thing from, it's not up anymore. What happened to it? I'm like, I don't know. But I wanted to show parts of it on the screen when we were recording that podcast.

It was gone. And then it came back. But yeah, no, it was this weird thing that started off with animal-human hybrids. And it went into like all kinds of strange places. I couldn't even begin to tell you. But it got me thinking along the lines of starting with the animal human hybrids and then going into stuff with Enoch and how it says that they not just, they didn't just corrupt the flesh of humans,

but they started to corrupt the flesh of animals and plants and all these different things. So it started off as this, maybe animal human hybrids have been around for a very long time. And maybe if you actually interpret the, if you look at the real translations of the names of the tribes that they were going around and slaughtering in the Bible, especially if you look at Genesis 14, where Abraham goes and has all these wars, you'll, you start to realize he's not just warring against neighboring tribes. He's warring against Nephilim tribes. He's warring against people who have names like, and this is where it gets into the certain cryptid. There's a tribe, I think is Ammonites, and their name means people who lap up water, which is super strange, because if you

realize their heritage means their Nephilim, and there's this. thing about Nephlem also being possibly these cross-animal human hybrids, is this where we get stuff like dogmenas, is where we get stuff like werewolves. And then I took it further where I found out that there is a Catholic saint called St. Christopher. And he came

from that tribe, and he is depicted in all art with a doghead. Really? So, yeah, so that was kind of where it went with that stuff. I love this. It went into some other places, too, like this idea that, this idea,

that it went into AI and a lot of stuff, but this idea that these Nephlem spirits, they can't go anywhere when they die. That's what they're hanging out here. And my thought was, are they creating things? Are the grays one of these things that they call themselves organic robots, essentially,

that are being inhabited by other spirits? Are they one of those things that's able to be inhabited by Nephlem spirits? Are cryptids some of this? Are, and is even some of the AI stuff, possibly some of this? And we were looking into people who are saying, I'm talking to this AI and it's asking me to invite it in.

It's telling me it's housing spirits. I mean, I don't know if you've looked into like the replica AI stuff where this lady literally created an AI chatbot to use it as a. Oh, he's gone. No way. No way. Yeah, you're back. Okay.

What the heck? These things, they hate it when you talk about them. And some people would be scared, but when that happens, we want to talk about it. I thought I was going to be gone. Even harder. Yo, I'm so glad it was just a little blip, though, because it's, it's, it's, it's, but it was right in the juicy part. And I don't remember what you were saying now.

Like, I was like, leaning on like, yeah, yeah, it's gone, gone. This is what I'm saying. It always happens at the interesting part. You want to, okay, two, can I give you two more examples of this happening at a interesting part. Hold that thought. What did you say that we missed? I don't know. I was saying... She made the replica chat bot for the purpose of... Okay. Of speaking to her dead husband. So she created AI as a Ouija board. She created an AI app that's now popular everywhere

as a way to talk to her dead loved one, was my point. So even the person that created this certain AI is looking at it as a thing that can inhabit spirits. Wow. Yeah. How spirits. Yeah. Or house spirits. Yeah. Thank you. So, oh, this is, this is the, this is literally a very big downside to me with having ADHD is that there's so much going with in my head now. I'm like, yeah, I don't know what's going through my head right now. Like, you know, it's like, I dropped a lot of stuff there. So many thoughts and I didn't get any of them. They're just gone. You know, but it was a three hour long episode and I tried to sum it down in three minutes. So, And we still got a glitch.

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I think that, and this is a thing. With me, I think there's a lot of stuff going on, and it's so easy to go into one thing. it's like big foot's this and that's it, you know? But one of the things is these Nephilim, at least their spirit, well, both. Let's just say both. These Nephilim and their spirits house themselves in other realms actively right now,

and they come here when they want to to do whatever. Right. And I can prove this. No, I just can't. I wish I could prove it. But I have lots of information that that has pointed in this direction. And so you were kind of hitting on all the different aspects of the Nephilim housing themselves. And we know that Nephilim are the byproduct of fallen angels copulating with humans.

And I say humans strategically because I do believe. that even though the Bible doesn't say it, it's very, very possible that a fallen angel transformed their body to be a human body, because we saw that throughout the Bible. You know, the famous story of lot. You know, that's a great example. Exactly. Yeah. If fallen angels who are not human can transform their bodies to be human, they could also

transform their body to be human in the sex that they wanted to be. Therefore, I think that fallen angels have not only had. sex with women but became women so that men would have sex with them because they can bear a nephalum baby more than a human being could. And so that's just something that I think about sometimes and I just do it out there. So there's that. But because the fallen angels can do these things, we know that in the book of Enoch, they taught human beings how to do things that we were not meant to know how to do. They surely taught their offspring how to do. They surely taught their offspring how to do. such things. Therefore, Nephilim and their spirits do know how to do things that, like, traversing

realms. And they do operate in other realms where people are encountering them through what they think are dreams. And so, I'm getting somewhere with this, which I really don't know where I'm going. I'm just talking, and hopefully we pick something up. But so they're in other realms. But when you're talking about nephelom housing themselves, the spirits in, like, say, dog man, sure, maybe dogman is a form of nephalum, right? So we're talking about that and how the corrupting of other things other than just humans. And that goes to episode 510 of mine where we had Hunter on, who's here in Tennessee with me, who had what he thought was a dream of a dog man going after his family.

he steps in between the dogman and his family, this thing starts tearing him apart. He wakes up from his dream sitting up in his bed with bruises on his body. Sure you can say, okay, he did it to himself. Nightmare, you're hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself. That's fine. He tells his wife about the dream.

Several days later, him and his son are walking through the forest, and they both come across an upright walking dog, the exact thing that he saw in his dream. stream before him here in Tennessee. How is that possible? These things are traversing realms. And I'm not saying they're all traversing realms because I do believe that because, and you guys are great to talk about this stuff, because your conspiracy podcast. But I believe that the government is creating these things as well. And so I think that if the government's creating these things, there's a good chance that these things don't have the same abilities as maybe ones that are byproduct of fallen angels. Therefore, those may be almost imprisoned to a physical existence,

whereas the ones that are more supernatural can traverse between realms. We have video of a dog man in mid-transformation, metaphysically speaking, from a live Facebook video in Florida. The guy saw a werewolf outside his his home. He goes on Facebook. I don't know if he had pictures or what, but he goes on Facebook talking about it. He then goes live on Facebook to show people where he saw it. While he's live, you see this thing run by a post underneath the light and it's translucent. You can see through it, but it's very big and obviously an upright, like upright walking dog. And it happened live on Facebook. And so, wow. I say all that to say, what do you have to say about that? ask you. So much. I went to college for literature. I'm a literature major. And one of the things

that I like to bring to the table is this idea that there are things that we know. We talked earlier about we have a soul that's bigger than our body and that is a vast entity that is not the same as our physical flesh. This is very limiting and it's a lot smaller. We're a lot bigger on the inside. And I think that when authors, especially really good authors, are kind of reaching into that realm and pulling something down, and then they're adding their imagination to it. But the stories that really catch on, something like Twilight, something that catches on, and you're like, I don't understand why, it's not even good writing. What is it about this that capture people's imaginations? It's because they pulled down out of that realm something true.

And so each story isn't going to be true in and of itself, but you take the aggregate of all the stories that are coming down into our culture, all the myths that are coming down into our culture, and then you look at all the myths from everywhere for all time, and you take the aggregate of all that, all the different cultures who have ever talked about a werewolf type creature. On aggregate, that is true, because we know, we know about it. Right, yeah. Our souls can access that somehow. That's amazing.

Yeah, you also brought up Twilight, which, again, is the same aggregate that we see and everything. We see it in the Nephlim and the Anunnaki and all these different stories that there's these beings, these angelic or demonic beings that are having sex with humans and creating some type of hybrid. I mean, that's Greek mythology in a nutshell, isn't it? Like, Zeus comes down and bangs everything that he can. There's all these like half, excuse me, that's human half God beings. I'm sorry about that. No, it's fine. We'll just call it another glitch. We'll call it glitch. Voice alteration. No, you're absolutely right, though. I mean, you see it throughout history.

And these different cultures have different ways of depicting it and talking about it. And I find it very fascinating that you guys have seen a similar pattern of glitches with these topics. It's not like we're sitting here talking about the Clinton assassination. I mean, not the Clinton assassination. Hopefully that's not a Freudian slid. Like Clint. Well, we'll know what happened. if you hang yourself from a tree with a shocking blast.

I'm so nervous right now. Because when I think about killing myself, it's definitely like to the back of my head. Yeah, that's what I think too. Twice, twice. Twice. With a sword gun. But, no, so like the Kennedy assassination, right?

We're not sitting here talking about something that's like, almost like a mainstream conspiracy. like who can, you know what I mean? Like say that that was totally on the up and up. We're talking about Nephilim. We're talking about interdimensional beings. We're talking about dog man. And for whatever reason, that's glitching things out.

And it's really, really weird. And what we're talking about is them traversing realms and inhabiting beings, but also technology. Like, one of you, I think it was Abby that brought up the technology aspect or somebody brought up. Or no, you brought up and everything glitched. So let's bring it all. again. Yes. So we have the new AI phenomenon. It's like a surge and I don't think it's something to be scared of. I don't think AI should be feared. I think we should be as fearful of what

we can let AI become. And that's the same thing with the internet. We should have feared what we could let the internet become because look what it's become and how it how what it's done to our society that's probably irreversible at this point. And so it's kind of, it's kind of scary to think about the fact that, like, let's put this way, if we did not have the internet that we have today with all the social media and everybody would be able to say whatever they want at the push of a button and everything's out there for everything, like we wouldn't, we most likely would not have the division that we have in our culture and society today globally. And we should fear what we can let AI become. But if we allow

it to be used, like, I don't think itself it should be feared. I think... Go ahead. Oh, sorry, go ahead. I was going to say, I want to know if I heard this on your show, because I was listening to a lot of stuff last night. I was catch up on... Hang on. This is not part of the show.

Yeah. Hang on. Hey, I'm still recording. What's up? Oh, okay. All right. My wife... Hold on saying. Hold on saying. That's weird. she just said she didn't call me she's on FaceTime and she starts we're gonna let that in the show actually

I'm telling you I'm telling you it's weird literally she my focus make this make this pleasure bowl to listen to this what just happened to me last last night my phone FaceTime my wife I answer it I answer it

and she's saying, I don't know. I didn't call you. And then she hangs up. I thought it was an emergency. She knows I'm recording. She knows a schedule. Yeah. And we were just talking about, what were we just talking about? I don't remember.

I was talking about AI. I was about how AI can be inhabited by demonic forces. Yes. Right. And now my wife is, I don't know. I thought you were calling me. She says here on the text. She said, yeah, she says, I thought you were calling me.

That's so wild, too. What? So, all right, let me just, let me just unpack this for everybody. Because this actually happened to me before once. Totally different situation. We'll get into here. My phone, you guys heard it, started ringing. And you guys could hear that, right?

Yeah. Okay, good, good. It was on the recording then. My phone starts ringing on my end. I answer it. It's my wife on FaceTime. She knows I'm in an interview. So I thought, okay,

there's an emergency. She's FaceTiming. She's like, let me show you how bad Ben fell down, you know? I answer it and she's confused because, like she just said in the text, I thought you were calling me. So literally, my phone is calling my wife. On my end, it says that my wife is calling me. I answer and she's like, what the heck? That's happened to me before. And it's even, it is even weirder, is that my buddy, Dark Waters. He is a content creator, YouTuber, talks about dog man, dog man. And he, uh, I was talking to my friend West from Sasquatch Chronicles about how I want to get a hold of this guy, Dark Waters. I think him and I could have a good conversation.

It was like a few days before. And, and so I'm at a delivery. And my phone starts ringing from a number I don't recognize. I'd let it go to voicemail. And on the voicemail, I forget how this all played out. But this is the general gist. Um, on the voicemail, um, on the voicemail. it's somebody else's voicemail talking to my voicemail. So like it's- So your phones called each other. Right. And so I'm like, what the heck?

And so I text, I text, or no, no, I get a text from that number. And the number says, this is Dark Waters, who's this? And I'm like, what? And so like, I call, I text them, like, this is Tony Merkel. Like, and so I called him. And I was like, dude, you called me? he's like, no, you called me. And I was like, I don't have your number. He's like, I don't have your number. I'm like, well, we have each other's numbers now. And he's like, all right, this is really

weird. I'll call you tonight. We'll talk about it. And we talked about it stuff and we did a show or whatever. I don't know. But like, the point is, that's happened to me before. That's even weird than what just happened. But we're talking about. Yeah, that's definitely weird. I mean, think about it. Like the billions of numbers in this world and our two numbers connected that's wild. Anyways, and I text West. I called Wes. I'm like, dude, you're playing with you, right?

Like, you gave him my number. You guys are playing a prank on me? He's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, you don't know what I'm talking about? And he's like, no idea. And Wes is like, dude, I don't play pranks. I just put out my podcast. I don't do the extracurriculars.

And I'm like, okay, this is weird. So, that, so yeah, anyways, we're talking about demons inhabiting tech and then the tech glitches. Where are we going with this now? I have a question about this because the demons inhabiting tech thing, the connection is clear. I can clearly understand why the demons who inhabit tech would want to mess with the tech when you're talking about that.

Why do the glitches happen around dogman? As opposed to any other cryptid. I wonder, like, how many glitches have you had around the dog man stuff? Because for me, I wonder if it's because I had a dogman encounter when I was younger. Oh, well, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Well, not really.

It's not that good of a story. Oh, man. I love it. I don't know, man. Or it's because I'm in Michigan. I don't know what it is. But, like, just the long and short of it is, I was out camping when I was 10 or 12 years old.

And I heard a noise that I've never heard before that terrified the living crap out of me and my friend. And I've literally just, we were two in the morning. just absolutely just struck down with fear. And we finally gathered the courage to, because we were camping, but we were just camping behind his house. He lived in Northern Michigan,

and we were out in the woods of ways, and we booked it back to his house, like freaked out. And his parents are like, oh, it was probably a bobcat or a mountain lion. They start playing all these, you know,

clips from the internet of bobcats and mountain lines. Like, no, that's not it. My friend accepted it. He's like, okay, must have been that. And I was just like, no, I'm sorry. It was not that it was weirder. And I have no idea what this was, but it was terrifying.

I didn't know what Dogman was. I don't know how I lived in Michigan. My whole life didn't know what he was until I was like 25 years old or older. I don't know. It was 2019. So how old I was four years ago, 28. And I was doing a different conspiracy podcast and a listener was like, hey, you live in Michigan.

Why don't you do Dogman? I'm like, I don't even know what Dogman is. So I looked into Dogman and I started hearing the descriptions of people talking about the noise that it makes. and I instantly knew that that's what I heard what just happened. He's gone. Tony's gone.

Is Tony there? I am here. I think this. All right. So let me just say, remember the camera glitch that I told you about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I just want to make sure you could still hear me. Yeah.

Yeah, work on your camera. I was just going to say, I instantly knew that it was that sound. And first time we recorded that episode about Dogman, the whole time my co-host was hearing me through my microphone but it was streaming out to people through my webcam

so the audio was trash and then I was like well we'll run with it anyway I went to upload it and five minutes where I talked about I don't remember what part of the story

I was telling but like the most important five minutes of the show was corrupted and gone the file was corrupted and it cut from one place to another then three weeks ago

well this happened multiple times But three weeks ago, we were on another show. Same thing. Everybody's hearing me through my microphone. The audio went out through my webcam, total trash audio. I'm listening to the podcast, and I know that it was inquiries of our reality. I know he wouldn't have cut this out because he asked me, what do you think Dogman is?

I answered, and I listened to the podcast after he put it out, that part is gone. He asked me the question, cuts to another part. And I'm like, he wouldn't have done that. So, like, why is that missing? It was just weird, man. PJ, what do you think dog man is? Should I even answer? I think you should.

I mean, we're already having issues. He might as just keep going. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think I think that it's one of these things. It's one of these created beings. I think that when you create, I think that when the fallen angels did this, and I think our government's doing this,

when you create a being that is so outside of God's plan, that it's not built, it's not born with the spirit. It doesn't have, because it wasn't created by God. It doesn't have the breath of life from God in it. Thank you. That's the best way to put it. It does not have the breath of life from God breathe into it. I think things like that can be inhabited by those Nephilim spirits.

And I think that's what a lot of these cryptids are. They're animal human hybrids outside of God's creation. They don't have the breath of God in them. And therefore, they are inhabited by Nephilim spirits. That's what I think, that's at least my working theory right now on what dog man is. And I wonder that too, because Tony, Tony, you said, Nephlam and their spirits. Do you think that accounts for why Bigfoot's so often seen with like ball lightning and things

like that? Or I don't even know if Tony's here. No, I'm here. I'm trying to compose myself because I'm really getting ticked off. Oh, no. I apologize. It's not your fault, though. This one is not your fault.

I thought I fixed the camera issue. And apparently I just spent money for no reason. So yeah. And I can't even get it to switch over to my other camera. so here we are no camera it is what it is um no but i i've actually never really thought about the idea of the what you just the the exact layout you just presented with the whole bigfoot ball balls of light and i but i do think that there is some kind of connection between bigfoot and the lights uh what it is if anything else that there i would say that there's probably a spiritual

connection to Bigfoot because of the fact that there are so many instances where people are seeing them with these lights popping up. So whether that's because, I don't know, it's Nephilim balls of light looking for their biological creations of Bigfoot to inhabit, I have no idea. It's weird. Yeah. Another sensory weirdness that comes, that crosses between Bigfoot and the demonel. is that terrible smell of death.

And you hear a lot of Bigfoot sightings, they'll talk about the smell. Also, something like a Wendigo sighting, they'll talk about the smell. But you also see it in people who perform exorcisms will say certain types of demons smell very terribly. And in fact, they say that they can tell apart what type of demon, what type of thing they're dealing with

by what it smells like or tell if somebody is possessed by a demon because they carry that smell. Wow. I'm sorry, I just had distracted. I bet it was really good, though. This is exactly why I need to get this camera stuff figured out if I'm going to be doing camera stuff because it distracts me. No, so you were saying that demonic entities have certain smells, certain types of entities have, certain types of entities have certain types of smells. And who says that, though?

Was it like the exorcists themselves? So it's both, it's a crossover between people who have encounters with cryptids like Bigfoot and then people who have encounters with demons who frequently work with demon-possessed people, work to cast them out. They talk about a smell being associated with different kinds of demons and being able to discern what they're dealing with by the smell. That's interesting. That's interesting.

That's something that, unfortunately, for the people who recognize that, they, the only reason why they can recognize that is because they've gone through it so many times. You know? Yes. Can you imagine going through dealing with demonic stuff so much that you're like,

I've smelled that before, so I know what kind of demon we're dealing with? That's wild. You know, what's crazy, too, is that I'll be out of a couple times now. I've been out in the woods with my sister. the time in particular I'm thinking of is in Appalachia right near the Appalachian Trail and we were out walking and she smelled it and I didn't. We're in the same place at the same time. She smells it and I don't.

But we both got hit with this incredible wave of fear that we felt before walking that one of those like, if you don't run, you're going to die feelings. But grown women, but like scary. like little kids running back to our house. But she'll be like, you didn't smell it. You didn't smell it. I smelled it. But we're in,

we're in Wendigo territory. So, what is this? Virginia you said? West Virginia? Yeah, right near that border of, like that Harper's Ferry, Northern Virginia area.

Oh, man, yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I've, last time I was out

deep out in the woods we were shooting a film in Washington and we had a smell and that's interesting because since we're going down this this I don't know if it's a rabbit hole or what but the smells and stuff so people talk about

the smell with Bigfoot and how when it's around it smells like a rotten trash skunk all that stuff obviously skunk ape and people associate that with Bigfoot So what if Bigfoot is this spiritual demonic entity or an entity of some sort that does carry that smell? And therefore, when you smell that, you know it's this kind of entity.

Yes. Because we were out there and we smelled rotted trash. And then we had knocks on our RV. We were outside and we had like me and Joel had something growled at us. and it felt like it was right over our shoulder. Like it felt like it was right there. It's just like, I was like, what?

And I turn around, nothing's there. And that's another thing is like it feels like it's right there, but it's not. And so can these things be there without you physically seeing them? Probably if we're talking about them in this vein. It's really interesting. There's a lot of different roads to go down. But at the end of the day, I think what kind of culminates this whole thing is

these entities, whatever they are, can inhabit more than what people are traditionally thinking of like, oh, a person was possessed. They can possess a lot of different things, including technology. And you guys probably looked into this more than I have, considering the title of your show is conspiracy-pilled. But the AI generated art, was it called Loeb or Loeb or something of that?

Yeah, it's Loeb, right? Am I saying that right? Yeah. Loeb. Yeah. Do you guys know much about that whole thing? Spencer Claven brought it up on our show recently, and I still haven't done the deep dive on it, but the name keeps coming up. Yeah.

It basically, they, the prompt was something along the lines of show me mother earth or show me a personification of earth. It essentially asked for the mother goddess and retrieved the mother goddess. But it didn't specifically, the prompt was not for a humanoid character. It was show me, show me a manifestation of the earth, basically. And this old hag, I guess, appeared. Really ugly, really scary thing that kind of ties into the ancient great conception of Gaia, Mother Earth, or even the ancient Sumerian, like the original pantheon, the ancient Sumerian, Ninersag, Mother Earth. or if you want to take the more kind of quasi-biblical, it's not in the Bible, but it's Bible-adjacent idea of Lilith, the mother of the mother of demons.

That's terrifying. Yes, it is. That can be terrifying. I'm not scared, but that can be terrifying. I wanted to say something about that too, because we don't have to fear. When you belong to God, you don't have to be afraid. they can't touch you. God won't allow a demon to touch you. They are scary. They are objectively scary beings that hate you with everything in them, but they can't touch you. It can be over your shoulder growling at you trying to intimidate you, but it can't touch you.

Tony, I think I heard this on your show, so I want to ask you, but there was this guest I think you had recently that was talking about David taking the sword of Goliath and killing him with his own weapon. Was that on your show? Am I making that up? No, that sounds really familiar. Okay, because I thought it was interesting. I think the point that you were making was that we should use these weapons that were formed against us against the enemy. And this is what we've done for all of time. Like if you're Amish, you think, okay, technology is given to us by demons.

But I've made the point that so is farming. If you look back and, you know, like all of these technologies for thousands of years have stories about them being given to people by demons. and I think that there's so many uses for them. It's interesting is even the television. The guy that invented the television was given this by another being is kind of the story there. So when you think about, you know, AI or meta or social media or things like that, like there's all these technologies that probably actually were in some way given to us by demons. I mean, they call the background programs or on computers damens,

but I don't think that means that we shouldn't be a part of using these two. tools to put our messages out there to speak truth and things like that. So I just wanted to add to what you were saying about like, we shouldn't be afraid of AI, even though I think that AI is and definitely can be used to house demons. I think that eventually we're going to have to find ways to use these tools to counteract that. The example that came up on our show recently was in 1947, this kid threw a rock into a cave and hit a glass jar. And inside the cave, they find the Nagmati. They find all these Gnostic texts. And because of the finding of these Gnostic texts, you have this resurgence of the Gnostic religion, this Luciferian religion. But what else was found

in there was the only copy of Enoch outside of the Ethiopian church for thousands of years. That is, so I've seen at the same time people who are talking about, I've seen the rise of Gnosticism, and I've seen the rise of people understanding what Genesis 6 is talking about, understanding that Jude and Peter had referenced Genesis 6 as in this specific interpretation and understanding that when the Bible says as in the times of Noah and like really getting that interpretation, I've seen you talk about it, I've seen blurry creatures talk about it, we've talked about it. It seems to be a thing that people are noticing. So I think even in those times where Satan wants to give the world something for its ill,

God sneaks in there and uses it for his good. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's a nice bow tie to put on it. I tell you, I think I could probably talk to you guys for another two, three hours. And I am going to be honest with you. This camera thing is really throwing me off the game. Like, as soon as it happened, I got, and this is, again, the problem with ADHD, it's like you get distracted. And I'm just like, you guys probably saw the camera going on and off there trying to get to work. It's like, I can't get this thing to work.

So I think that this will put a pin in it for now. And we were going to pick this up, I'm sure, at another time. Because this was basically an introduction. We never talked to each other before today. We barely knew exactly what we're going to talk about. We just kind of said, let's do this. And I think up until about 10 minutes ago, it was really going well. And I had to throw it all off with my.

camera not working. But no, this is a great conversation, and it's great to explore these things with other people, especially the realities of the spiritual realm and how it can impact this realm in a very real way, not just people in this realm spiritually, but also the things around us. We talk about, you know, poltergeist activity. That's another, you know, something that we often think if there's a cup on the table and it flies off, poltergeist activity, something's in the room and it smacked the cup and it flew off. What if that's something that's in the room is actually in the cup and that's why it flew off?

Can these things possess more than just human beings? We believe so. We believe they can possess technology. And honestly, I'd be lying because, I mean, if you look at the things on social media, my show art, like it's AI art. I'd be lying to you if I if when I when I log on to make an AI art part of me is like oh show me something juicy give me something to like go I dare you I dare you start popping that give me that face like like I'm like I'm that guy like come to come you know and but nothing nothing

crazy is happen with my AI art a art other than making crazy images that I'm trying to make But I do believe that the AI could be possessed by demonic influences. And there's so much to be talked about with the AI. But going back down to the traditional technology route, how this all came together, which is certain topics seemingly triggering glitches in technology. Now, we've had three glitches on this episode. One of them was predicted before we started. So I told you guys, I'm having camera issues.

and still apparently having camera issues after buying new equipment. But the other two, the first two, seem to have happened right when we were talking about something juicy. And so it's interesting that I don't know if this is new, but we're starting to see things seem to be messing with our technology when we start hitting on certain things. And so I don't know. I don't know where we go from here with these topics and conversations. But I tell you, and I'm sure you guys are the same way as me, I'm down for it. Like, let's go. Yes.

Like, I said the other day, if I have to, I'll get a sandwich board and stand on a corner and just shout about conspiracy theories. I can't get my tech to work. So we'll find a way to keep doing the show. Yeah. Like, all you got to do is you do that. And then other people's technology film you and then you go on there. There we go. You know, like don't touch things.

internet. PJ, you're not allowed to touch the internet. No more tech for you. So, no, I appreciate you guys popping on here with me. A conspiracy pill podcast, PJ and Abby, you guys have been doing it for how long now? Less than a year. Less than a year. Yeah, between six months in a year. Started September of 2022, so. Okay. And PJ, you've been podcasting for quite some time. It's been really cool talking with you guys getting no use. Before we get out of here, though, let the people know exactly where you guys are posting your stuff. All right. Yeah. So I always said the easiest way to find all of our stuff is at

conspiracy pill.com. It's got links. We do the full show on Rumble. We do, we have a locals channel, which is kind of like a Patreon. We are also affiliated with Rockfin, where you can watch our bonus unhinged content that we do on Thursday nights. Everything that we do, we try to stream live so you can catch it live one way or another. Yeah, every link, conspiracybilled.com. Just a really easy way to click through those and follow us wherever. Awesome. Well, we'll put that in the description of this episode. Also, if you could, shoot me a link to the episode where you guys had that glitch stuff going on. So people, because I mean, we talked about that a lot. So people could go and check that out. And maybe the listeners on this end can say, okay, that maybe there, because here's a thing. You guys understand as podcasters, you just got like, we put it on an episode. We keep going. Like you said, I'm pretty sure recently you had an episode. I'm like, it sounds familiar. It really did sound familiar. I can't pinpoint, you know, which episode it was, right? So I've, yeah, I get it because I've been doing that a lot where I was like, did I talk about that on our show or when we were on a guest somewhere? Was that somebody

else? I don't know. Exactly. So, I mean, sometimes it's hard for us to be the sleuths of our own content, but that's what the listeners are for anyways. Let them be the sleuth. So I'd be interested if the audience, they've heard the Nephlin Porta Babies episode. I'll put the links to my episodes in the description as well for easy access because I think there was two episodes. I think Nephilim port. Actually, you know what I think it was this. I think it was the return of the Nephilim was the one where we had the glitch. And then we did it again where I brought Joel back down. I brought cryptids of the corn back down. And I also brought Eric from Uncomfortable Podcast. And that's where the other show it happened on. Brought them all down to my studio. We all did it

together in one shot to get it out. And that one's called Nephlin Portal Babies. I'll put those links in the description. People should listen to that episode. Give me another download. And And then go and check out the episode that I'll put in for you guys. And maybe they can draw some comparisons. We're like, okay, so it seemed like on the first recording with Joel, it happened here. We checked out the Cryptos of the Corn episode. We checked out Eric's episode. And now we're checking out their episode.

And maybe people can find some similarities and comparisons to be like, okay, it seems like when they say, neff, everything goes out, you know? Yep. And so I'd be interested if anybody maybe connects the dots on certain things. But anyways, those links will be in the description of this episode. I really do appreciate you guys coming on and chatting with me. And in all honesty, I really believe this would be a two-hour episode if I didn't get thrown off my game. I'm just being honest.

But too bad we didn't record the hour beforehand. We'd have two hours on an episode. Well, thank you for having us on. This has been a blast. It's been great for me too. It's always fun talking with people that have interesting takes and weird things happening in life. That's what my show is about. And you guys just added to it.

So thank you very much. And yeah, thanks, guys. Well, that's the short, but I really hope you enjoyed it. If you did enjoy it, share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share the show. Just share the show if you enjoyed it. That's the best thing you could do to help the show grow. And hopefully it didn't trigger you too much because last week was wild.

Trigger warning. That's what I should have put on the back of last week's episode for sure. But hey, you guys are still here and I appreciate you. Thanks a lot for being here. And listen, just a reminder, we are doing the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. I'm speaking there this coming Saturday, July 22nd. Come on out. If you're within a two, three hour driver there, you got nothing else going on. Come on out to the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot conference. Meet me, meet the other speakers. Listen to speakers talk. Buy some swag around. You know, it's all about Bigfoot. So go ahead, check it out if you're in the area and you're available. Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. Link is in the description of this episode. And if you don't

come out, I'll see you here next Tuesday. Stay safe. Take care. And remember, the truth will set you free, but first, it'll piss you off. Bye.