The Confessionals - 578: Ascendant Alchemical Creations

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

In Episode 578: Ascendant Alchemical Creations, Juan takes us into the fascinating world of homunculi, exploring their origins in alchemy, history, and their potential relevance in modern times. He unpacks the concept of homunculi, little magical beings created through alchemical processes, as first introduced by Paracelsus in the 16th century. Juan discusses the historical figures and secret societies associated with these creations, hinting at the possibility of politicians and elites being akin to homunculi in a symbolic sense. This conversation takes us into the intersection of alchemy, religion, and the occult, shedding light on a mysterious aspect of human history and the potential hidden forces at play.The Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinCome Meet Tony:LIVE SHOW in Gatlinburg, TN!Tickets: https://bit.ly/3IC4IkxWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSThis episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give onlinetherapy a try at betterhelp.com/yup and get on your way to being your best self.GET Private Internet Access: piavpn.com/confessionalsGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals50" for 50% off plus the first box ships for free!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGET FIRSTLEAF: tryfirstleaf.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelAre you a military veteran struggling with thoughts of suicide?Contact Watchman Readiness Corps for REAL help. A veteran-run organization that is designed to help through hands-on survival training.Website: wrc.vetEmail: [e-mail]: [phone]Instagram: wrc_survivalFacebook: colbywrcvetOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - AdiosYouTube | Apple | SpotifyInstagram: @vanteslamusic

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And then when you go out to dinner and see the town, you can walk wherever you want because it's right downtown. It is a great opportunity for you and your loved ones to have a great weekend. Come and see your favorite podcasters. Have a good time in Gatlinburg and make memories that'll last forever. So if that interests you, September 30th at the Black Bear Inn and Suites, we are going live. I'll see you there. And the link to the tickets is in the episode description. All right. This week, we have Wan from the one-on-one podcast coming on to talk homunculus. What is homunculus? It is an alchemical formed being. It goes back hundreds, if not thousands of years. And we speculate that not only are they ancient and have been used throughout history,

including biblical times, but they are also being used in modern times throughout politics, entertainment industries. We go in on this idea of the homunculus and the idea that it could be connected to the nephilum and all these different aspects to think on. And I know you guys are going to enjoy this conversation. So let's get to the alchemically formed beings known as homunculus with Juan from the one on one podcast right now. All right, today we got Juan from the chosen one on one. How you doing, man? Tony, thank you for the invite. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm all right. Glad to be here, man.

I'm excited. Yeah. So, Joel from Van Tesla and Kill the Mockingbirds kind of hooked this whole thing up. It's been a work in progress because of schedules. But he's like, I remember him sitting in the studio and he's like, hey, man, listen, I got to tell you something. You got to talk to Juan, man. You got to talk to Juan. He's going to blow your mind, man.

He's got so much stuff. He'll blow your mind, man. Every time we talk about Juan, it's always he's going to blow your mind, man. He's going to blow your mind. And so I'm like, okay, what's he going to talk to me about? And he's like, yo, he's got this whole talk about this homunculus, the homunculus. I'm like, the homunculus is like the homunculus. Yeah, he's going to blow your mind, man, the homunculus.

I'm just like, what the heck is a homunculus? And he's like, it's going to blow your mind, man. I'm telling you, it's going to blow your mind. I'm just like, yo, what the heck? And so shout out to Joel. Yeah, shout out to Joel because, and he's like hyping me up. He's been hyping me up for months. I'm like, dude, if I go on there and I bomb, Tony's never going to

give you for that one, dude. No, it's cool, man. Listen, he said it so many times that, like, and I trust, I trust him, you know, I trust Joel. And he said it so many times, I'm like, this has to be good. And I've been, you know, kind of observing you from a distance and stuff over the time. And, you know, you've been growing and stuff, man. So, like, you obviously are doing well and people are digging what you're talking about. But when we were texting back and forth and we were talking about this homunculus stuff. I told you, I was like, I have no idea what it is and I don't want you to tell me now. I want you to tell me on the show. And you're like, man, I've been doing this for a long time. I can do it. And I'm just like, let's go. So I told you I was going to open up

with this question. I'm going to do it. I'm still going to do it. Juan, what the heck is a homunculus? Man, I'm sorry to get weird on this episode. And I know this is the podcast to do it. So it depends on who you ask, but we can start off with the word, what homunculus means. Homunculus means miniature man or little man in Latin, okay? But what a homunculus itself is, the one that I mostly focus on, is the alchemical homunculus from the 16th century that was introduced into history by Pericelsus. And Paracelsus is an interesting character because he's the father of toxicology and a lot of things that we use today in modern surgery are attributed to him, except he was a little bit crazy.

It was cuckoo, right? So he had a lot of different ideas, and one of those was the idea of elementals or nymphs or dwarves or giants. And he had this idea of a homunculus. Now, the homunculus is an alchemically created little person, a magical little man. Okay. And what really, what really interests me about history is that these are actual concepts. These are things that people were talking about. And not just any regular people, like I said, the father of modern day toxicology was talking about creating in a lab. So pretty much think of a, like almost like a test two baby essentially is what it is. But in an alchemical vessel and you grow a man into it and then you are able to use this little man for magical purposes. Depends on which recipe you're following. But

essentially you are able to do things with this little person. Some people vivaceted, dissect it, whatever, or you can let it grow into old age. It'll divinate for you. It'll do it'll, it's magical because it comes from magic, from alchemy. And essentially that's what a homunculus is in the alchemical sense. Now the homunculus has taken in an evolution throughout history. The father of heresies, which is named Simon Magus, boasted about having a homunculus too.

Right. So we have the idea of the homunculus back 2,600 BCE. And it just, it really evolves throughout history. And it's just a very interesting topic because I found that it relates to a lot of things in today, even relates to cryptids. It relates to all these different things. Because alchemy to me is a, what I call an interdimensional topic. It exists on various levels. It's an actual practical art. It's a psychological thing. It's a spiritual thing. It's a, it's a, it's, it exists on different realms. And the more I look into it, the less I truly really know what it's all about. But essentially, a homunculus is a little man created through magic who also is magical. And yeah, I don't know where else you want to go. That's essentially in a nutshell, what a

homunculus is. Now that, mind you, there's various ones. And the one that I think, think people are going to be most familiar with without knowing that it was a homunculus is a voodoo. Okay, we've all been shown in Scooby-Doo and all these different movies throughout Hollywood that a voodoo doll is a simulacra. It's a representation of that other person and whatever you do to this simulacra, right, the homunculus, either made out of wax, wood, whatever it is, affects the person on the other side. And I think they're doing something similar today nowadays with our information that we give to them. There's all these sentient world simulation.

So I think, Tony, that they're making virtual voodoo dolls and linking them because where's our data going? They're doing all these simulations. They don't know who they're selling our data to. So they're building a replica of you and some AI computer. Have you seen the newest black mirror at all? I've seen some of the episodes.

I don't think I've seen the newest episode. The first one is about, how they're able to build out the life of a person. But the thing is that they have realities laid on top of one another. And they reveal this in these shows. So I call them cinema magicians where they're sorcerers of the subconscious because they're planting things on our subconscious. And they're kind of giving you a hint as they go along.

But essentially, that's what I believe they're doing today. They take our data and they build this virtual voodoo doll. And whatever happens to that, right, like Neal and the Matrix, whatever happens to Neo in the Matrix, which by the way, Neo is a homunculus, he was artificially grown in that pod. And then when he breaks out of the Matrix, he's an actual being.

But inside, whatever happens to him inside, happens to him outside. So think of it that way, and that's sympathetic magic, the law of contagion, like attracts like. So whatever. And mind you,

this is, I talk about this a lot because on my show, I focus on the occult or esoteric alchemy and occult symbolism. It doesn't matter if you don't necessarily believe it because the people who are in power are the ones that believe it, right? And they're able to exert through, I get emails all the time. I mean, not as weird as your

emails, but I get emails people asking me like, hey, should I try this? Like, dude, I've, I've had people email me that they believe that they are homuncular. And like, what are they supposed to do? I'm like, listen, I'm not that guy. I'm just here to talk about interesting stuff. I'm not going to, I've had people hit me up to break curses and all these times. I'm like, I'm not your guy, dude, don't hit me up for that. And if you're a homunculus, I don't know, I don't know what you should do. I mean, you're, your magic essentially, I don't know, but it gets really weird. But essentially, I think that's what they're doing. And even Alistair Crowley wrote about the homunculus. Jack Parsons, the father of modern day rocketry, tried to manifest a homunctus with Al Ron Hubbard from

Scientology. So we have people who are high ups in society, right? Higher ups, right? that are either notorious and that they use these what I believe is a technology. Tony, I think that they're tapping into something that they understand. And they've changed it, right? They've changed it. And it's funny because Paracelsus, he had this race of this other monster that he would create, called an Anokdiana, an Anakdiani, I'm sorry.

And it's a mixture of Enoch and Elijah, which I know you like the Anokian magic aspect of it. But it was like these other little beings. So we have this guy, the father of modern day toxicology, talking about spirits, elementals, dwarves, mystical creatures. And he said that if you let a homunculus grow into old age and release it into the wild, it would grow into a magical being. So I'm like, I'm thinking right, like Bigfoot, dog man? Like what's going on? So again, I'm not saying that they're all homunculi, but I think that some of them,

and I have other stuff that we can talk about, that attributes these cryptids that we know of, to some sort of alchemical processes or alchemical creations. Mind you, because they're tapping into it. Now, do I believe that there's another existence or reality in which they exist? Absolutely. But one thing about alchemy, dude, is that you can also, once you achieve the magnum opus,

which is the great work. The creation of the philosopher's stone, the elixir life, because alchemy gets into immortality, and it also gets into interdimensionalism, because once you achieve the magnum opus, the light from that chemical reaction changes your DNA, and you're able to step outside of reality,

and you're able to manipulate your reality from the outside. Well, this sounds like a whole bunch of woo-woo, but because of alchemy, we have chemistry. So because of the practices that these alchemists of old we're doing the ones that were involved with the homunculus and all these crazy ideas because of what they were doing in the lab we have chemistry okay so it's like one thing lays the foundation for another so from the woo-woo we get the science or seances i like to call it i love that the science or the seances well when you understand the root of it all i

I mean, it's not that hard to draw a connection there like that. So homunculus, the definition of homunculus has kind of varied over years is what I'm gathering. And like, because you even mentioned like how Neo is homunculus. I mean, he's not little, but he's a magical person. And so in that vein, and we can get into any topic you want. man. Like, I just wanted to jump off the homoculus, however you want to weave this. But in that vein, you know, and this is going to get, this is going to marry the woo-woo,

which is, you know, like my middle name these days, to the conspiracy. But do we have politicians that are walking homunculus? You know, like, like, I listen, is cloning possible? Anybody who says cloning isn't possible is living in 1985, okay? It's very, possible. It's been done. It's been admitted to. I have been on websites that have been sent to me by people that advertise human cloning. And so, yeah, cloning's possible. Now, is it a possibility to clone a person to be a homunculus, or how does that work? So, as recently, they had an article come out, I think about a month ago, where they admitted to. And cloning is absolutely real.

I don't know if you've seen the latest they clone Tyrone, but in that movie on Netflix, right? These wizards there, they put a lot of truth in there. Now, about a month ago, they put out an article stating, number one, they've passed for us to be able to eat clone meat, clone chickens. Okay, so we can eat those now. The FDA passed it. And they also passed, they also put out that they are artificially creating embryos.

So without a man, male or female, they're artificially creating them. Now, you have also this conspiracy. A lot of elites, a lot of celebrities use surrogate births. Now, mind you, I don't want to disrespect anybody. I'm just, I'm speaking on the literature. This is history. This is from the 15th century from way above. So the idea of not having a woman within the, the life-giving process was a thing because they were products of their time.

Women were looked as inferior in their time. So they were like, hey, you know, the seed of man is magical. So I don't need a woman. I can, you know, if I put it in a woman and I can make a baby, well, what happens if I take the matrix, which is womb and I switch that out for something else? Now they would switch it up for an alchemical vessel, for a cow, for a monkey, for all these different things. Mind you, this is in the literature of this thing. And the idea that you're talking about that there are people who are homunculus, right, politicians, that some of them like Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or Zuckerberg, who don't really look human, they kind of look like, like androids, right? They kind of look weird.

well, that's not too far-fetched because Crowley, so I told you that the homunculus has transformed or transmutated from the first, the time that it appeared all up until history. Well, in the 19th century, in the 20th century, I'm sorry, Crowley wrote about moon children and how to create moon children. And he took the alchemical homunculus and completely switched up and was like, listen, up until the second month of gestation, there's no. soul in the fetus. So what did we invoke a soul into that fetus in a ceremonial setting? Right? We have a man and a woman

astrologically aligned. This is all in the literature. You can look all. Anyone who listen to us can look this up. He wrote a book called the Moon Child in 1916. And in that story, because I believe that stories serve as a vessel for truth, right? And these magicians occult real, right, based on real events, they occult real things that happen in real life under stories because the mixing of fiction and reality does something. Okay. And we can talk I'd call that interdimensional literature. We can talk about that. But this idea, he took this story of these two lodges fighting over an unborn child. And he wrote also about creating. And he admits to that secret organizations have the knowledge and how to create a monkey. And I just did an episode on this, actually.

So he admit now is secret organizations the OTO that he was part of, MI6 or whatever he was because he was supposedly a spy too. We don't know. Or is it the government, right? Who is it? But secret organizations have this knowledge. And essentially, in a ceremonial setting, they copulate, they do the do, and they're able to invoke whichever entity they want into this fetus.

And a regular baby is born except it has the end. essence or the spirit of this entity. Now, think about that. The world is a stage, right? Every man and woman has their interest in exits. So what I believe they use this technology for is to play out their myths, their mythologies, right? It's always about the two brothers that are at war, one another, one unalives the other. Right? So what if they're able to play that, almost like a King Kill 33, where they snuff that light out and they use that inner. for something else. Any exchange of energy, Tony, is alchemy.

The monetary system is alchem. We're exchanging energies. And if you trace back the origins of the monetary system, back to the Knights Templar, well, who were the Knights Templar talking to? Baphomet, right? You have the idea about, well, Baphomet is also sort of homunculus

because they invoked an entity into the supposed head of John the Baptist. So you have that mythology. And that thing prophesies to them on how to create the monetary system that we know today. They essentially used outside influences, astro influences, whatever it was, to divinate to them on how to create more wealth. So that's alchemy right there. And the idea of a baffimate, you know, this entity inside this vessel, it's also referred to as fetishism, not the sexual kind. The original definition of fetish was the dwelling place. or vessel for a spirit or entity.

And it's kind of weird, right? Because fetishes are weird things that people have. Well, they took that. And in the late 19th century, they switched the definition. And I think that's on purpose because the word grammar, Tony, comes from grim war. And a grim war is a book of spells. And that's in the etymology of the word. That's not a conspiracy.

I'm using, again, I'm telling you about the literature. You can anyone can look this up. But yeah, absolutely. Do I believe that, you know, people always talk about the MPC theory, that there are people walking around that have no souls or inner monologue. No. Well, I think that the higher ups, that 1% could quite literally be homunculus vessels for the elites to use for their own magical purposes.

So I think that's an absolute, that could be more real than having MPCs, even if it is in this magical woo-woo way, they believe it. So therefore, it's true. Yeah, absolutely. I've said that over the years. I mean, it doesn't matter what you believe. It matters what they believe. And in these realms, these communities that, you know, listen to these types of shows and stuff, a lot of people understand that, you know, I don't want to say understand, but there's a lot of people that believe in the power of manifestation through thought. And so it falls in line with that. We're talking to Juan from one-on-one podcast.

I'm not sure if I said that in beginning, but I want to make sure I say it out now. People can check it out on Spotify, Apple, all over the place. But one-on-one. So it's J-U-A-N on J-U-A-N. I like to play of words there. Also the chosen Juan as your screen name here. I think it's freaking fantastic.

Now, Nephilim. Okay, so you're talking about this stuff, and my, you know, I'm a Christian and like I'm sold out on it, okay? Like I'm die hard. Like you're not, like, you're not going to shake me off my foundation. Now, when you're talking and you're saying about this ritual that's basically overriding God's creation, like it's literally, like what you're describing. And I know there's lots of people that are Christians that listen to my show, their reaction is the same I initially had, as you were saying, I'm like, how can that be possible? How can Crowley override, literally supernaturally override the supernatural God in the middle of his creation?

How is that possible? And I'm not the guy to say how it's possible, but I can say safely that it's been done before, you know, because that's essentially what Nephilim are. Now, the overriding process was at the genesis of conception, because we're talking about fallen angels initiating the conception, and they are supernatural in themselves. But somebody like Crowley walking in a supernatural realm constantly, it kind of fits that bill as well, especially if he has those entities working on his behalf. So I'm just kind of setting the scene for you to kind of probably go in that direction. you nodding your head when I brought it up. So go ahead and carry on, sir. Shout out to Joel, right? Because he's all about the Nephilim. And the, if you trace the origins of alchemy, okay, and you go back to the biblical time. And not all of people know this, Tony,

but I was born and raised by the Holocaust Christian, okay? So I'm with you on that. I consider myself a Christian. We're both Puerto Rican. So it's like, we got a little bit in common, right? So Puerto Rican Pentecostals, right? And if you trace back the idea of where alchemy came from, it came from the fallen ones that passed the knowledge on right to the daughters of men. And from there, I believe, and the reason I believe this, that Noah was one of the greatest alchemists of all time and his lineage, because I am one that I study a lot of alchemy and I look at different alchemical plates.

And there's always references to, you'll see Noah's Ark in, one corner or you'll see the two animals lined up next to one another and if you follow again if you follow the etymology of why these biblical patriarchs were able to live for so long well what have they had the secret right to the philosopher's stone which would extend your life for x amount of years right there's a lot of references to the cornerstone in the bible there's references right jacob's ladder he put his head on a stone and had what a dream right and then when he woke up he anointing that stone. So what if that was a sort of, what if the philosopher's stone was something that was available around everywhere, right, before the flood or after the floor, whatever, it was just

thrown around somewhere because there are legends of like the golem, which is more of like the proto Frankenstein. I'm sure everyone knows about that story. And that has its roots in alchemy because Mary Shelley and Percy Shelley allegedly were studying alchemical manuscripts and right if we think about the stories that occult true true you know real life events well what if frankenstein was a nod at that like oh we it's a story maybe we tried it behind closed doors who knows right let's just try the story about it but that comes from the idea of a golem and a golem is a magical man created through words through magic so not in a in a lab setting. It's more of a like a supernatural thing where they animate a man through word and he

comes alive, but it's more of a cybernetic AI type of thing where it's program to do one thing. And the reason I bring that up is because in the 16th century, Rabbi Judeo I loo or love, how some people say, he allegedly had created in Prague this golem that was meant to protect this Jewish ghetto. Now, the reason they say he was able to create, create this golem was because in the ground there in Prague, it's a very magical place. Supposedly, the prima materia, the material which you need to create the philosopher's stone is in the ground in there. There's something called Moldivite. So apparently it's like it's a crazy thing where this, this comet or asteroid or something crashed there. And essentially it's a

crater. And when it broke up, it deposited all that Moldavite into the ground. So whenever he would scoop up and he molded this man, he was able to animate it because it was already in the ground. It was already there. So I think of in biblical times, whatever was like that, whatever was available everywhere, these fallen angels came down. We're like, yo, we want to do stuff with you. We'll give you something in return for using you. You know what I mean? Everyone knows the story. And we're going to teach you these things. Okay, we're going to teach you where you have two ball cane, which is associated with the furnace. Well, the furnace is also associated. in alchemy. So a metallurgy, metalworking, that's all alchemy. Okay, so we have this biblical

connection to alchemy essentially. And again, I mean, if you want to follow that storyline, alchemy did come from these fallen ones. And the watchers who were watching, right? So you have the book of Enoch. And in the book of Enoch, he goes up into this other realm, this other dimension and is interacting with these watchers, these angels. But the watchers, though, the way I've come to understand is that they were watching the divine alchemists, right? The one, the source, God transmuting reality into existence. So the word watcher takes on a different meaning. Like they were watching alchemy.

They were watching reality be created into existence, okay? Because they looked at the philosopher's stone. And I just recently translated an old book from an old alchemical manuscript from the 14 something, 1500s. And it's about apparently alchemists in the 16th and 17th century, they had this thing with the first books of Genesis, where they believed they were their greatest alchemical text to ever exist. And they would do commentaries on these books. Okay. So they were taking the Bible and they were doing commentaries on how it was related to.

alchemy because in the book of Genesis where God is creating the world, well, to the alchemist, the philosopher's stone was sort of this, this little world, this mundus, they call it a mundus, anyway, a miniature universe essentially is what it is, right? And I translated one of these commentaries, I'm going to be putting out a video of it soon of the alchemical, the biblical alchemical perspective that was going to, and again, I'm studying this from, I want to get their own words for it. I want to get these people's original words. And what was really going through their minds as they're writing these things down? Because I like to look at history from all points of views, right? You know, I consider myself a Christian, maybe not the best one. But again, I'm

diving into these rabbit holes or wormholes, whatever you want to call it. And I want to study it from all views in order to get a full grasp on what this weird thing we call reality is. But yeah, they looked at the book of Genesis 1 and 2 as the greatest alchemical text ever. So it's like, are these guys reading between the line? Because I do think that the Bible is a powerful book. There's a lot of very interesting things in there. And the idea that in the story within the biblical perspective has alchemy in it, right? Because you have again, Simon Magus talking about having a homunculus, he boasts about it.

You have Jesus turning water into wine. You have Moses and parting of the Red Sea. you have all these different things that are magical. It's magic. I mean, that's essentially what it is. It's like a Harry Potter, where they're casting spells and doing all this stuff. So the idea that there's alchemy within the story, but then if we step it above that and think about maybe alchemical secrets or secrets of any kind,

occulted within the Bible itself, maybe not the watered down translations we have now, but maybe the original King, 1611 King James version, where if we trace back the, the conspiracies of who the potential editors of that Bible were, right? The original Bible, Francis Bacon, William Shakespeare, all these guys, and maybe they occulted some sort of secret alchemical knowledge within, maybe that version, that first edition, that to me blows my mind. So that's why I want to get the perspective of all these other guys to be like, you know, when that's how this is how it all started for me, Tony,

when I first started my podcast, it started with me asking questions at church or asking my grandma and going, hey, what's up with the book of Enoch? Why are they leaving all the cool stuff out of the main Bible? And like, oh, mehito, don't worry about that. We're like, what do you mean? You know, I want to worry about it.

So it's like when you tell a kid, don't do something and they want to do it because they're like, what does that big red button do? Don't touch it. Well, I want to touch the big red button. And that's how it started for me. I'm just diving down these rabbit holes. And it's like, the more I look, the less I know what it is, Tony.

You know, when you started diving down these rabbit holes, like you said a couple of times here that you consider yourself a Christian. And, you know, like, I don't know how you define things, but I go just off of Romans 10, 9, basically. you know, do you believe in your heart and confess your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord? That is the foundation, the cornerstone, if you want to say that, of the Christian foundation of faith. So based off that, you looking into all this other stuff, one, some of the stuff I don't think is, should be a problem. I mean, like you've mentioned Enoch several times and that's been quoted in the Bible. that's that's quoted um and and and but i i think that there are certain people like for instance myself i'm not like like i know that that's not my lane like enoch sure but like going in and reading

crowley's work and things like that people are like oh well you should educate yourself so you know what you're talking no no no listen there are certain things that i'm not supposed to do for me and that's one of them because i'm an individual with my own individual characteristics and i know for a I'm already fascinated by this stuff. I don't want to be, I don't want to put myself into the position. I'm like, oh, let me just see if I take this feather and slap it over on that thing and just say this little word. Just see what happens, you know?

Like, especially, you know, people go through their spiritual ups and downs, their valleys and lows and highs, like in a valley spiritually when you're in that and you're looking in this stuff, it could be very tempting for somebody like me to tap into it. And I've had people on the show who are active witches. who were studying to be pastors, decide to know their enemy and study the occult for that purpose, and they wound up becoming witches

throughout the process. I don't want to take the chance of that happening to me. Oh, well, you don't think you're strong enough? No, I don't. I don't. Like, I'm being honest with myself. Like, I don't. I think that there are certain things

I'm not supposed to touch personally. For you, though, you're studying all this stuff. Have you ever felt like, hey, man, like, what if I just, you know, take this coin, pop it in that? little bowl there and throw some tobacco on top of it and see what happens. You know, like, have you ever been tempted with that? Have you ever tried it?

You know, let me know. So this is one of the things that my wife didn't like at first because my wife doesn't care about any of this stuff. Like she does, she could care less about Bigfoot dog, man, all this. So she doesn't care about that. But one of the things that was really ingrained in me growing up, kind of costal Christian, and not all people know that, but the idea was to have respect for these supernatural Because being in the Pentagon, I played guitar a lot of years in the music worship group, and I traveled around to like juvies.

So I saw supernatural things and you know when the Holy Spirit is around, it's about to go. You feel it. Like it's in the air. It's something that you can't describe. You feel it. It's a real thing. Right. For those are, oh, you know, you feel when the Holy Spirit is in the area.

Okay. So where I draw the line is, it is very tempting, Tony. It is very time to be reading these things and going, okay, but I also know that a lot of these guys, Tony, lost their minds. And if it does work, Tony, why did they all die broke, penniless, drug addicted, with nothing else to show for it except they wrote a whole bunch of books? Sure, okay, that's cool.

But one of the things I learned was to have respect for these things. The only thing I'll go as far to do, Tony, and I do it more to troll people is I'll use the, the numerology of will in my in my work so i have a comic book my comic book is three dollars and 33 like i'll do stuff like that maybe the fun i'll do it 33 ooh but because again i've studied pythagoreanism and i know that numbers resonate on a certain frequency and they i think reality is all numbers okay i think it's it's a mathematical thing and the pythagorean's worshiped number okay they worshiped reality as numbers so i'll do that just to troll okay

but I've had experiences. I call them Gremlins. And I've had people tell me, you know, I have books all over the place, old books, rare books. And they've told me at my desk here in my office, right, back again, to this interdimensional literature, well, books, I believe, are portals. They are portals that open up and are able to transport you to other realms. Your consciousness, their mandolas essentially is what they are. and you can hop in that and go you ever pick up a book and you just can't put it down because it's so good well

unfortunately some of these are called books are just that and i've had tony interactions where in the corner of my eye you know i'll see those those right the shape of shadows something moving around and i'll you know sometimes you feel your mind wandering and i'll invoke the name of jesus right in the name of jesus christ i i whatever is around you know i ordered you to to leave in the of Jesus and I'll use the name and it works. So there's something about that. And I've talked about this on my show before. There's something about that.

There's power in the name of Jesus. But yeah, I've never, you know, people ask me all the time, oh, you know, have you ever thought about making a monkey? I go, why? I find it interesting to talk about it and discuss these ideas with a like-minded people, but am I going to go out and do something like this? Probably not. So that's where I draw the line.

And I've recently, I recently had somebody reach out to me, somebody you know about doing a documentary and they want to open up a portal. And I go, he's like, I want you to be a part of the experiments. I was like, yeah. Do I want to do I want to participate in this thing that they want to do? And I was like, you know, I'll be there as a consultant because I get made, I'll get not made fun of, but I've had people, right, like the people who, the haters, right? They'll be like, oh, how you're able to talk about this if you've never done it yourself.

And I go, I don't care. I have the literature. I can read it. And I can take somebody's word for it. And that's as far as I'll go. And yeah, my wife was worried about it. I was thinking, well, when you start going on these rabbi holes because you said, how you said, it's tempting, right?

People feel that they get some sort of power from doing these things. And essentially, the idea of creating a homunculus is to extract and get Godlike powers from this thing that you created. Okay. So it is absolutely where you're saying. it is blasphemous, it is heretical because they are trying to usurp God and become little God with a little, you know, a God with a little G themselves, right? And again, I believe, Tony, that there are two camps behind the scenes right now. The camp that likes to create homunculus and extract the power from those homunculine, artificially created beings, and the camp

that likes to extract them from the real thing, okay, if you catch my drift, okay? The people who are, you know, we hear all these conspiracies with that substance that they extract from certain, from children and all this stuff, right? So I think that there's two camps in the background, the camp that likes it from the artificial and the camp that likes it from the real stuff. Again, that's just something I believe. And I think that they're similar to the moon child story of Crowley. There was two camps fighting over that unborn child.

So again, just think outside the box and you start to put, you know, dot, dots together, you go, okay, now this is making more sense. But to answer your question, absolutely, some of the stuff is very, very, you know, it can draw you in. But you have to know, you have to be strong to be able to draw the line. And that's where I draw the line. I'm not going to be sacrificing any chickens anytime soon. Okay, everybody, let me talk to you about our sponsor today, which is Hello Fresh. And listen, we sit around and we eat dinner as a family. And the kids, they don't eat Hello Fresh because they're five and three. The kids, they, they don't want to eat the adult meals that we get through Hello Fresh. I understand that. So Lindsay made dinner the other

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It's evolving with every stroke of the brush. And it's not the most scientific at all, but that's just how my brain works. And I've been, you mentioned Jacob's Ladder. Jacob's Ladder is something that I have been contemplating a lot. And it started probably a few months ago when I heard the story Jacob's Ladder pop up like three times in like two days or something like that. And it's just like, it's one of those things where I was like, okay maybe god wants me to look into something here and so i sat down and i read it and i was reading through the whole story and it wasn't until the end that i realized what i was supposed to see you know

the story of jacob's ladder basically for people who don't know is that he he finds a rock to lay his head down on and to go to sleep and when he goes to sleep he has this um experience you know the bible calls it a dream uh people call it a dream and and i call it a dream and i call it a dream But I want to preface it with the idea that dreams, even according to the Bible, are way, way, way, way more important than what we give it credit for in the Western culture and society. And I've mentioned this several times in the show how my mind's changing a lot on dreams. But not all dreams. Like if you're being chased by Barney down the street, it's a dream.

Like I don't know what to tell you. I mean, maybe it has meanings to it, right? But I'm not the dream whisperer. But dreams are powerful. And even the Bible talks about it several times. We lose touch of all that stuff because the further we get into time on the Western society culture realm, the further away we get from the supernatural view of what our existence really is. And with this dream, he sees a staircase, a ladder, if you will, going into heaven. and it goes from him describing seeing this thing to what I envision him standing at the bottom of.

I don't think he went up the stairs. It doesn't say he did, but the way I envision is all of a sudden now he's standing at the bottom of the stairs and there's God at the top and there's this interaction. And before the interaction, he sees this stairs or this ladder. and he says that there's angels ascending and descending. And I always just want to preface it because this is an opportunity for me to kind of just maybe give people comfort. The angels were ascending than descending. And that should give you a very comforting sign that angels are here around us all the time, working on our behalf. And they go upstairs to check it with the big guy to make sure that whatever we're praying for is according to his will.

And then they come back and they act on our behalf. And so it's not that they're there with him just watching our lives unfold and just, you know, waiting for him to be like, okay, he's suffered enough. Like they're here working on her behalf. And that imagery is in my mind, in my heart, is proof of that, gives me comforts. I just want to share with other people. But back on topic, he has this interaction and then he wakes up. And I don't have the scripture in front of me, but I believe it's the ESV version that actually uses the word that I'm going to a reference here. He says that this place is the gateway to heaven. And that's at the end of the story.

And when I read that, I was like, that's why I'm supposed to be reading this, because swap gateway with portal. We did a whole episode for the members, I think it called it Biblical Gateways. And I had my friend Derek, who is a pastor, Pentecostal pastor. Well, his dad's a pastor. He helps he's a pastor two. But he came down from New York and he's in the studio and we're talking about this stuff. He's laying out the case for it, you know? And he wasn't saying this is 100% or something. It's just like, it gives you food for thought. And so that story is another story of the idea of a gateway. Now, take that and then zoom back and look at the Bible itself, not the gateway that's mentioned in the Bible, but the Bible itself a gateway.

And that's something that I started thinking about more and more with books and what's in these books. And the fact you open this book and you dive into the information and it's now a gateway into this realm. And then I was at a conference. It's so unexpected how welcoming the people were at this conference of my viewpoints. But they were talking to me about like, I started talking about all this. this weird stuff I talk about on my show and they're just like, yeah, you know, I'm like,

oh, shoot, I'm with my people. But this pastor, Robert Hodgkins, I met with him and Robert Hodgkin, and him and I just really hit it off. And that's one thing that he just like proclaimed in front of like all these people like in this conversation. He's like, the Bible is a portal. And I was just like, yes, you know. And so like I say all that to say, I agree with you, but books are portals, yeah, absolutely. And the scripture and ancient literature, in my opinion, if you think about the effects that it's had on humanity, on reality itself, I mean, that resonates.

It's something that, right, started one thing, and it just radiates outwards and has changed the world quite literally. So, yeah, the interdimensional literature is something. And the idea of dreams being something, it's very interesting. And the reason that they show that latter secret societies like the Freemasons use that symbolism for a reason. I think that they know about it. If you look at David and Goliath, right, David, allegedly, I did an episode with Joel on the, we called the alchemical story of David and Goliath.

And we speculated on what if David used a philosopher's stone. take out Goliath, right? This Nephilim, because Nephlem are, they're part, you know, like almost like demigods, they're magical still. So he used maybe this, right? We were just speculating. We went down the story of it and how King David passed down some stones, the puck stones to Solomon. And how Solomon, right, Solomon Shamir was also a substance or a worm kind of weird thing. So there, and it's funny because Solomon asked for wisdom. He doesn't ask for money. Well, maybe because he already He had access to the philosopher's stone where he could turn lead into gold and create wealth already. So he's like, I don't want more wealth.

I just want wisdom. I want to know about everything. So there's that idea. And in the occult, I've noticed that the dream state is very important to them. Because in dreams, you yourself are, you recognize yourself being there. You recognize that a part of you was in this other realm, whatever it is. But you weren't really there. And sometimes I have certain dreams where I often wonder, I go, you know, I'll have an interaction with somebody that I've known or know.

And it's so vivid that I often wonder if the person on the other side also interacted with me in their dreams in that realm. Okay. So, and I'll wake up and I go, I wonder if that person, you know, they say when your ear rings, somebody's talking about you or whatever, when your hand itches, you're about to get money or, you know, those, those dumb superstition. And I go, well, I wonder if somebody, if you seeing somebody else in your dreams is indicative of them also interacting with you, you know? Let me tell you, bouncing off of what you're talking about here, I did an episode years ago. It was actually, I believe, removed off my podcast feed for copyright infringement. music and stuff at the end of it. I think, but I have to have him back on some time.

But his channel is Mr. X Dreams. And he talks a lot about dreams. I don't know what he's talking about these days, but I know him and I talked years ago, he was doing the dream stuff. And he told on the show about how he had a dream where he was actually exiting the dream as his sister was entering the dream.

in the dream, like she was entering the room or whatever, and he was exiting. And he wakes up the next day he sees her. And she's like, I dreamt about you yesterday. And you were like walking out of a room when I was walking in. And it was like, there was a clear, no if ands, buts about it. Like they had interaction in the same dream. And they recalled that together. And so, yeah, absolutely.

And that's the bonkers weird side of. Not weird. I don't want to say it's weird. It's unfathomable. We don't fathom it very well because of our preconditioned mindsets. Dreams are fascinating. Going back to the David and the what's the stone again? Philosopher's song?

Yeah, I keep wanting to say sorcerer's zone. It's not the source of zone. It could be though. Yeah, same idea. Same idea, same concept. I will say this. So Joel was telling me about that. and him and I just talked the other day,

and I was telling him how next time he comes to studio, we got to do a whole episode on it. So if you want to join us on that, you can for sure. I know you're in Florida and stuff, so I don't know what your situation is, but it's just on the table for you if you want. But this is something that I kind of, and this is what I mean.

Like you, Joel is doing this too. Like you guys read and you're studying and all that stuff. And my brain works different. this is something that I've been on for at least 2017 because I remember making Facebook posts about this back in the early days of me doing all this stuff publicly. I was really new at it. And I remember getting people from my church commenting on it. Like, what the heck are you talking about?

You know? And I'm like, God bless you and your family. Leave me alone. You know? I'm in my bag right now. You got to let me be. And so, but I, and I pulled it up here. here, and I don't know how much I'm going to read of this, but I want to kind of just share this

with people. Second Samuel, chapter 21, verse 16 through 22 it has here. I'm not sure if I'm actually going to read this whole thing right now, but it says a giant, and people have to understand, we talk about this all the time. Giants are throughout the Bible. If you're new to the show, Goliath was not the only giant in the Bible. That is a very, very under-talk thing. in Western Church, right? But it says a giant named Ishibb nob, okay, very bad at reading those names, who was carrying a bronze spear that weighed about 3.5 kilograms, and who was wearing a new sword thought he could kill David.

Now, when you read that, you're like, okay, he was carrying a new sword, he had a bronze spear. but when we're talking about the alchemical nature of these things possibly, and you read and you dissect that verse, and we could probably keep reading, but that's the chunk that I really wanted to share with people. When the translators were translating the Bible, from what I've gathered, the word that is there that says sword was an implanted word

because what it actually was saying, the word that they used, we don't have a word for that in the English language. But the idea of the word was that he was wearing something new. And they planted sword in there because it makes sense. Just like there are parts of the Bible that, like, I think it was the King James when they were translating, I believe it was a King James. And I don't remember the verse.

I don't remember the book, but it talks about how we, we as humans are just, we are below the angels, but the actual translation is that we're above the angels. I forget, that 30 second segue right there, friends, just disregard, but it's there. Just if you want to dig, go ahead, but like, I forget. It just came to me, but anyways, back on topic, the translations, you know,

and if it was that he was wearing something new, So they, David, mighty warrior, right? And David himself, who has seen battle immensely, is familiar with every type of weaponry out there. If it was a sword, they would have put the word sword in there. Because when you're, when, in Second Samuel, when they're writing this, like, they're not dumb, you know? like, it's a, it's a no-brainer. So the fact that the word they chose to use was something new and not a sword. And when we translated the Bible, it's we're putting in sword because we don't know

what the something new is. So we're like, it's probably a sword. You got to back up, take off that, that, that those, those preconceived notions, maybe put on the supernaturalist hat and say, what if the something new was, some kind of new technology because it says here, after it gave the resume of bronze spear that weighed about 3.5 kilograms and who was wearing a new something, a new sword, thought he could kill David.

Holy, like, David was a mighty warrior. They knew he killed Goliath. Like, he kills giants, right? He's not going out on the field casually saying, yo, I got my 3.5 kilogram spear. I got my new sword freshly sharpened. And I think I can take on the giant slayer now because I got my new sword extra sharp.

I think what happened is he walked on the field saying I got this new alchemical weapon and use your imagination. Maybe it's glowing purple and shoots lasers out. I don't freaking know. All I know is whatever he had gave him more confidence to take down the giant slayer than a traditional sword would.

in his arsenal. And so that is just a little segue of mind that, but this is something I've been talking about briefly throughout the years. And I'm really glad there are people like you and Joel that are studying and going deep on this stuff. And, you know, we may not agree on everything. The audience certainly won't agree on everything you say. But it's definitely something to look into for perspective, especially people who are biblical, you know, faith believing Christians who are listening to this, trying to fit. this idea of a supernatural worldview in today's modern culture and society, it can be a very difficult thing because you feel like you're walking around crazy, like you're a lunatic,

like, what am I doing? Am I crazy? I'm probably crazy. You're not crazy. It's just you're desensitized to the supernatural aspect of your reality that you're living in right now. Rant over, carry on one. No, as you were saying, like the translation, I was literally writing down original translation. that's the thing we in the description of the episode that we did me and joel we put what the puck is going on because the word the puck stones we don't know what they were we don't know what the puck stones are it's p u k h i think it is and it's like they refer to like david passing that on to solomon this this and this and then the puck stone what it what is the puck stones what is that so how you're

saying if it was a sword they would put sword and and that's the problem with the the translations too because they're going to insert whatever makes sense, but they're referring to something else. And that's what I love about Joel, because he takes the original Hebrew and he breaks it down and he has the books to back it up. He's like, hey, listen, let's flip to this page and look up Stone, but Stone has 35 different meaning, whatever, you know, an example. And this other one has two different meanings. So therefore, and you know, you can make an educated guess from that. But even then, we still might not probably know what they were referring to. But I think if we are to follow this alchemical,

this alchemical biblical approach to it, they could be talking about some sort of advanced technology. That was alchemical in nature. And again, they were part Nephilim. And if we follow back the origins of alchemy, goes back to the fallen ones. And yeah, I mean, absolutely.

I think that it's interesting. And that's why I translated that commentary of the first books of Genesis, because I want to get these guys, even though it's a translation from Latin to English, I want to get their word for it. I don't want to take a scholar's work or word for the,

they translate just pieces of it and they put it in some essay or whatever. Like, no, I want to read the actual thing and I want to see what they were talking about. Even if I draw something from that or not, but therefore I can put that part of, you know, in my mind to rest. It's like, well, there's a whole translation. I don't even understand what it says. If I can't read Old Latin, then I'm screwed, right? So let me just translate and take and see what it says for it itself.

So absolutely, I'll take up your invitation for that. I'd love to sit down on that. We could, I mean, we go deep on that. We did an episode recently and we talked about it. But we only scratched the surface because there's so much of it. And I have your escalator. So the escalator, you know, Jacob's Ladder, maybe it was an escalator. You think about the angels going up.

That's what I actually envisioned. When I think of it, that's what I think of. Like there's no effort. You're just kind of gliding up to guys. like, thank you, Jesus. Yeah, so I want to focus some more on the dream aspect of it, because the homunculus concept really bleeds into all the stuff that we talked about. So the idea of having like this astral servitor or something, that's also homunculus.

Your imaginary friend that we all had as a kid, that's kind of sort of like a humongulous, because the humongous takes on, you know, it goes from metaphysical to like a meat and bones, to then like another, again, metaphysical in like the 21st century, if you want. And if you, and I've linked it, Tony, to even like people in recent mainstream news that had ranches in certain places, right? Zoro Ranch and all these different people where they were trying to impregnate 30 women at a time. Well, I wonder why they were trying to do that, right?

So, and it just, it links the Nephilim wanting to, right? Because it's funny, the Nephlem are, if they're able to interact with human, women, that would kind of sort of mean that they kind of sort of have human DNA in them because they're able to interact with the women. So these nephom are sort of chimeras, which I want to segue into the chimera talk because it relates to alchemy, because after they were done making rational animals, they would make irrational animals. And they were mixing birds with cows or monkeys with.

with dogs or whatever. And if we think about, right, the Nephlam, why did God flood the world? Well, because there was a lot of corruption. There was a lot of blasphemy. There was a lot of heretical things going on. You had the fallen ones interacting with the daughters of men. Well, what happens after they're done interacting with the daughters of men?

Well, they start interacting with the animals, right? And they started inserting themselves in the animals. And we get these, the harpies, the minotars and all these different things. well, one of my favorite topics, Tony, and I've been a fan of your show for a long time, so I'll tune in. And one of my guilty pleasures is, because he's talking about gateways, is the dogman and crypt is in Bigfoot. And I went to Gatlinburg recently. I know you and I were chatting back and forth. I was in Gatlinburg. And one of the things that stood out to me was the sign, a gateway to the Smokies. And I go, oh, man, that's crazy because it was, it was a sign a gateway to the smokies.

And I go, oh, man, that's crazy because if we take the concept of mountains, Tony, there is the Shugendo tribe from the 9th century, is a mountain worshipping religion. Now, find they worship the mountains. You know, we have the idea of the arc landing on top of the mountain, right? I forgot the name of the mountain. But we have all these ideas of mountains. Well, Crowley, right back to the Crowley, he was a mountaine here. But this specific 9th century religion, they believe that by climbing these days,

mountains, Tony, they would acquire magical powers. What mountains? And they would become, so this is in Japan, but anything, you take into account why these elites like climbing Mount Everest or K2 or all these different peaks, right? We have all these twin peaks and all these different logos on companies that use mountains in the sun and all these different things. Well, this religion from the 9th century, they believe that by climbing mountains, they would achieve magical power, like magicians in the mountains type of thing.

And they would become shapeshifters. They would become, I don't know if there's where it was, but they would become like this Japanese folklore. They would become like these weird, I think they're like the redheaded demon looking things with the longnows. They would become all these different things. And I go, well, what if, again, not saying that this is what's going on in the Smokies or LBL or wherever it is.

But in all these grimores I've read, one thing stands out. And there's a, there's a, One aspect to the homunculus recipes that I've come across in that it always uses magnets. And they refer to the magnet as the stone of choice for magicians. Well, it's funny because in Oak Ridge, we know that there's a collider, right? And that collider uses what? A large array of magnets is using the Hadron or Hydron Collider, however you want to say.

Oak Ridge. So there's stories of portals opening up, right? And these things bleeding into our existence. Well, in the occult aspect, Tony, there are stories of that too. These other realms, these other dimensions that magicians are able to open up and let these things through into our reality. Now, the idea that perhaps the dogman or the Bigfoot or something is a sort of technology that they're tapping into, almost like an altered carbon where they swap their consciousness into this entity. They run around. They do their shenanigans, whatever it is, and then they go back. Well, you have stories of that like St. Augustine, who wrote the confessions and we're on the confessional. That's funny. He wrote a story about the city of God, right? Where

due to their sin, they were all turned into werewolves and different being and birds and all these different beings, right? Well, we're starting to see this phenomenon more and more. We know that God destroyed the world when all these chimeras were. Again, I'm not saying that something's going to happen, but biblical times, right? And the first book I ever read in the Bible was the book Revelation. And that book fascinated me because it's like apocrypha, Tony. Apocrypha. I was a 12-year-old boy reading Revelation.

Like, what is going on? I know. Traumatizing. Now it all makes sense. Now it all makes sense. Exactly. So you see where I could get the, you know, the dragons and all this different lore from. It was from that, right?

I was introduced. And that's the first book I went to because I was just fascinated by it. But we know that God destroyed the world after, because there was cameras and all these things. Now we have all these, it feels like to me more and more stories of dogmen. And the idea of the dogman and Bigfoot, right? The Bigfoot is sort of like an ape type of thing. Well, the ape is also relevant in the event. Col because it's looked as a liminal species.

It's not fully man and it's not fully beast. So therefore, it's one of the preferred species of animal, right, choice of animal for magicians because it exists in this liminal area, this in between man and beast, right? So what if, again, talking about alchemy, combining different things together, maybe Bigfoot is a sort of alchemical type of, maybe some of them. I'm not saying that they're all these alchemical chimeras or cryptos, whatever, but some, similar to the dogman, because the dogman, according to some scholars, homunculus, there was this battle of homunculi back then. Some scholars believed that homunculus were artificial demons that were birthed into existence.

They had ethics on how to treat a homunculus back then, Tony. There are stories of alchemists that would create homunculi, and as soon as it came to life and would, animate in the vessel, he would destroy it. And the other people are held like, what are you doing? Listen, I'm an alchemist, right? I'm practicing this and I'm doing this. But I don't know if God died for that homonculus sin. Is God going to, did God die for that soul?

Is God going to put a soul into it or a demon? And if you think of the concept of a dog man and the concept of dogs in the occult, you have Mephistopheles in the story of Faust showing up as a dog, You have the idea of dogs, people reincarnating as dogs from a violent death. You have, I've also heard that for apes too. But when people encounter a dog man, it's almost like a demonic entity in nature. They don't ever want to see a dog man ever again in their life. And then Bigfoot, it's like, oh, I would love to see a bit.

I want to go out and look for Bigfoot. Like they want to go out and look. But the dog is like, no, I don't ever want to see that thing again. So again, this idea of these lichanthropes, maybe perhaps. perhaps being, and the reason I bring this up to him is because I was reading a book that I probably shouldn't be reading because people have told me, listen, that certain authors' books are portals. You've got to be careful. I've heard people, like, people reach out to me.

They go, hey, listen, dude, I know you don't like this occult stuff, but you're doing stuff that's kind of shady. Just watch out. And I was reading this Kenneth Grant book, which was Crowley's assistant. And he's talking about traversing this other dimension, this other reality. and the crossing of the abyss is something that these occultists would do. Parsons did it, Crowley did it, and the abyss is this intermediate world that exists between reality and the imagination, if you will. And he talks about the reason for that is to let go of the ego.

But in these other realms, there's a dimension where time goes backwards. And these occultists, they enter that dimension. And when they enter that dimension, they are trying to, to regress their brains and their ideas all the way back to a pre-human time. So I'm thinking Nephlem, demonic, whatever, like the, you know, pre-human, but that they sometimes fail, Tony, and that there's this dog-headed ape sitting there that looks at them as they struggle in this larval form, is what he calls it. And they are tossed into the abyss.

And then when I read that, I go, that's some interesting imagery. he's got a little footnote there. And the little footnote says, attributed to most magical lichenthrope cases. So I go, wait a minute. What if this werewolf, and not just werewolves, you know, take anything into account.

What if this is failed attempts by occultists to cross this abyss? And they've just lost their mind and gone through some sort of alchemical transmutation, biological change of them themselves, because part of the dream state too, Tony, that I've read about is that some certain entities

that reveal themselves in your waking state will appear horrific in nature versus when they reveal themselves in your deep sleep state. And now this is related to H.B. Lovecraft, speaking of dreams, who was inspired by the, he was inspired this entire mythos of weird elder gods,

the great old ones through his dreams, which I think were entities on the other. side of space and time, trying to be manifested through what, through literature, through books, because books are portals to other dimensions. And you have H.P. Lovecraft, one of the most influential prolific writers of all time, burthing, right, among Gilles, burthing things into existence through his writing from stuff that was revealed to him in his dreams.

Okay. So to step this up, let's go deeper, Tony. You have anything to say before we go deeper? Because I got some, I got some smoke, bro. No, keep going. I'm building it up. What you're saying about the books, dreams, yes. Absolutely.

And this is where the two worlds collide, where we have a researcher who does a lot of reading, and we have a guy who does a lot of listening. And all I can say is yes. And I'm going to share what I know very soon. people keep asking, when's the new podcast coming? Well, I've chopped that and we are not doing a new podcast. We are releasing... I've been waiting for that, bro.

We are releasing the original story on the confessionals. We are not going to try building a new podcast out of it. We're just going to do it around the confessions. More details to come. But let's just put it this way, there's going to be... There's going to be... People are going to be able to follow... Well, members will be able to follow the journey.

Oh, my gosh, you're going to do it for the members? Yeah, the actual initial interview that I talk about all the time, that's going to be on the platform for everybody to listen to. But as I go through the journey and unfold recordings, you know, sometimes it's going to be five, ten, 15 minute recordings. We're going to have an entire section for the members on the app. So anyways, all I can say is when people hear that,

I'm thinking we're going to release it in September. I just keep calling the Genesis story. I'm going to call it something else. but it's just the beginning, the first story that got me on this. When people hear it, they're going to know what you're talking about and why I keep saying yes. So carry on. Well, Tony, little Easter egg, there is a homunculus in that story, too, by the way.

So in the story that you're talking about, the book that shall not be named, there is a homunculus. And we can talk about it at the end. But this idea of we've always grown up being told to use our imagination, right? And I'm talking about the abyss, which is this intermediate world. They've always told us that our mind over matter, our mind creates reality, all these different things. Well, there's something called the mundus imaginatilus. And this is a topic that I've been really dealing with because it relates to John D.

and Edward Kelly, which, right, the guy who introduced Inokian magic into existence. And they were interacting with entities on the other side. Now, the way that they were doing that was through scrying. Okay. And this mundus imaginalus, according to some researchers, there's different technologies that you can access that. Now, I still don't know if the mundus imaginatist, this intermediate world between reality and imagination, it's in between, if we all have our own mundus imaginalists, or if we all share it collectively, and we're able to all tap into that. And the reason I say that is because one of the technologies in order to access that other realm, that dimension, right, similar to Crowley. Crowley used it as well.

He's scrying through the athers is scrying. And shout out to the boys again from Kill the Mockingbirds. We have a show called Shadow Band Syndicate because we're Shadow Band, and we covered the origins, the occult origins of technology. And we went down a whole rabbit hole of that. But the idea that, right, we're scrying at all times with our technology, our tech, that maybe perhaps has Nephlem or Inokian. origins, well, what if, again, we're talking about the Mundus Imaginitis and ways of accessing that

and opening up portals for things to come through? Well, what if we're all collectively scrying right now with the use of technology and the use of our phones and manifesting these things from our Mundus imaginales into our reality and they're bleeding through our reality. Okay. So the technology is like a sort of broad. bridge or gateway like the gateway computer or whatever sarns where where did the the internet originate at cern right the worldwide web w w w w w w w w w w w is 666 too i mean it's like a like a elementary conspiracy but w w w w is in the jam at chtria 666 so i'm sure that they're sure that they're good people at cern i'm sure that they didn't mean to do anything they only

have a statue of i think it's shiva or something doing the death dance. I'm sure that they're up to, right, they're, they're colliding matter together, trying to just do things, right? And then they show it to you and shows like stranger things. And that gun that opens up the portal is called the key. And if you think of solomonic magic and go Asia, right, to interact with demons and entities on the other side, the keys of Solomon. So they put this stuff in these movies and in these shows, okay, the portal and that shows on a tree. Well, if you look at Kabbalah and all these are the other side, the cliff off, which is the dark side of that tree is also a thing that leads into the upside down. So this is all in literature, Tony, but I believe that we are all collectively scrying together.

And again, back to this idea, it doesn't matter if you believe it or not. The intentions that went in to creating this technology were just those. The origin of the modern day computer, Tony, was in order to approve the existence of God. And the guy who Charles Babbage, who is the father of the modern day computer, also was trying to summon the devil as a little boy. Okay. So these are guys that have influenced our society and reality today who had other nefarious activities, even though it's all about intention. Maybe your intention, the listener listening to this, when you use your phone, you use it for school, work, whatever it is. But the guy who made that, the guy who was able to let that idea come into society, into reality,

had other intentions. He was trying to prove the existence of God through the use of technology. If you look at a circuit board and you look at anokian tablets, they look similar. So a dame on in programming is a little messenger that sends messages back and forth. You have all these different concepts

and although maybe, and that's the powerful side and scary side of the occult in this magic with a K or otherwise, because they're able to implant these things, even in our own language, all the days of the week are named after Nordic gods, and they put these things in our language and in our technology and all these things that we use and interact with it every day.

And who knows what that's doing to us on a spiritual level, right? And what we're carrying on for these magicians or sorcerers of the subconscious, as I like to call them. So again, just an idea, Tony, that maybe we're all bringing these things into existence. some, not all, some. And we're tapping into other realms as we go along. Just a thought, Tony. No, well, no, I think that the way we're painting the picture today, especially with the

information you're talking about, society is built strategically. It didn't just unfold randomly, and we just get to this point. it's strategically built and it's built in a way where our everyday lives could be part of the process of such things. For instance, people that live in D.C., the roads they drive. When you drive those roads, when you drive those roads, what do they trace and, you know, the obelisk? Like, there's so much symbolism in your everyday life that you have no choice but to live through. Like, what are you they do, not do Monday? You know, like, kind of have to.

You know, like, so, I mean, it's, and that's why people can get so, when, especially when they first start learning about stuff, they get all in their, their head and they're just like, oh my, wah, ah, you know, it's just like, breathe, breathe, you know. And that's why I always kind of come back to, your God is more powerful than anything that these people are doing right now. And that's why it's so important for you to recognize. the spiritual realm that you live in and the ultimate authority within that spiritual realm, it's very complex. It's way more complex than what we have ever been taught and we're learning

just that. But at the end of the day, the ultimate authority in that realm is on your side if you choose to tap into that ultimate authority. And so with that said, I'm going to backtrack to just something you said earlier that I just wanted to hit on because, I just had this conversation last night. People have already heard it by now, at least the members have, but I just had the conversation like less than 12 hours ago. I was here recording 12 hours ago, you know. I was talking with two guys, Nick from Tales from the Grid Square, and he brought a guy

with him named Isaiah. Isaiah was stationed on Fort Campbell in Kentucky, and he was part of an entire event that happened on the base where he saw a dog man and other people saw the dog man as well. From other perspectives and vantage points, they're calling over the radio about a dog man on the base. And it's not the only time it's ever happened. He continues to tell a story where one of the other guys who I'm actually in a group chat with, who just didn't come on to talk about it, I wish he would have. it would have been nice to have his perspective firsthand versus Isaiah retelling it.

But he comes on and says that this other guy, Mac, who we're talking to, he was, I guess, like some kind of group leader or something during training. And a dogman comes on the scene, Isaiah's not there. He's hearing this over the radio. At some point, radios all go down base wide. It's unexplainable. They're brand new radios, brand new batteries, all. go down at one time and then they come back on and they work fine. But over the radio, they're calling

out that this dog man is here. And what happened is this thing, they must have been near a tree line or something. I think he calls it the back 40. And it's where they do all their training. This thing grabs one of the soldiers and starts pulling him into the woods. And Mack pulls this guy back and this guy's leg gets all cut up. He's shortly after this incident left the military. But this happens at Fort Campbell a lot. Like, it's not unknown. This guy that I'm talking to is now at another base where he teaches classes. And whenever he gets a new group of students in that come from Fort Campbell, he's like, who's my Fort Campbellites? They raise their hand. He's like, who knows about the dog, man? He's like 20, 30 percent of them raised a hand that they've had experiences

with it. Back in the 1970s, there have been soldiers talking about. this one situation where a dog man just ripped up things like crazy. And so this all happens at Fort Campbell, which is not far away from the Bellwitch Cave, the Bellwitch Cave in Tennessee. And that's been described on this show by Martin Groves. I think he did it in the Overtimer member show, I believe. But we were talking about portals and things like that.

And he said that the Bellwitch Cave has so much paranormal activity. it's been known to be called the the portal to hell. And he said that it's also known that dogmen guard that portal to hell. And that's not far away from Fort Campbell. What's also not far away from Fort Campbell

and the Bellwitch Cave is the LBL, where dogman is just viciously going at people, which we're going to be visiting here in the future. But wish me luck, everybody. Tony, by any chance, does that make a triangle by any chance? It does a little bit of a wonky triangle, I would say.

But depending on where you go, because the LBL is so big, but you got Fort Campbell in Kentucky, right on the border of Kentucky and Tennessee. Then you got the Bellwitch Cave south of that. And then you got LBL west of those two things. So it would be a triangle of some sort. And so, yeah, I mean, go ahead and share. what you're thinking along that angle of triangle because I did do an episode called the Tennessee triangle that had that area in mind that people can see it on the show art I I made the show art

deliberately to have the triangle over certain specific areas and so people can go check that out and give it a listen give me another download uh what were you going to say about the triangle is the triangle is part of manifesting entities and two like the the the magician can use a magical triangle to manifest an entity and have control over it. And I know you listen to that, what's his name? I always forget his name. The guy you were listening to where he had a witch on talking about bringing dogmen into this reality. Oh, Shane.

Tim Poole. Yeah. Shane. Yeah. So that. If you think about the occultic aspect of bringing these entities in, well, I mean, they're using the occult. Magic, whatever, necromancy, whatever you want to call it. They're using that technology to bring it into reality.

So again, I'm not saying that all dogmen are occult byproducts, right, of these rituals. Maybe some of them are, right? And the idea that the government is interested in this sort of stuff, right? Maybe that's why we have national parks, right? You have that whole conspiracy, that they're protecting things that are in these open areas. Because I've been to the Everglades numerous times and it's a magical place. People don't know, it's not. It's a magical place, bro. What do they say that the desert is the mansion of the devil? You have these open areas where the Jin live, these places of high strangeness.

And it's got to do something. I've noticed, right, the 12 vile vortices around the world, the 12 devil's triangles. These are all places of high strangeness. You have the Bermuda triangle being one of the more well-known ones, the Devil's Triangle over by Japan. You have the Mohenjo Daro, the South Atlantic anomaly, all these different places around the world where the veil, is thinner and I think things are able to interact with us more freely, right? And people are able to tap into it and these things are bleeding into our reality. I don't know if we're all, again, collectively scrying together using our tablets, tablets and tablets and magic or another thing, our phones and all these different frequencies that we're being bombarded with where these things are able to maybe for a second, fizz in and fizz out of all reality.

Right. Or they are able to sort of interact with that. And they're able to blip in and blip out. So I don't know. Again, Tony, the more I look at this stuff, the less I know. Out of all the books I've read, I still don't know what's going on. And I probably want to figure out what's going on. But how you said, if you walk in the light and you believe in God and you're a good person, that's the key, in my opinion, to avoid.

Because that's one of the things, unpopular opinion. But the more you look into the occult and all these different darker conspiracies, it just leads you to God. I mean, it always tells you there's only one answer. It's God. And a lot of people don't like to talk about that because, again, it's unpopular opinion, but that's my personal endeavor

out of all the books I've ever read. And as long as you walk in the light, you're a good person, believe in God, you'll be okay. It's going to be okay. I got you, man. Yeah, I'm not going to go down that road. I was just going to go down a little bit of a theological ramp,

but we're going to let that one go for another day. Listen, we got Juan from one-on-one podcast. Juan, before we wrap it up here, just tell people where they can find you, where they could find your work, because you're not just a podcast or you do a lot of stuff, man. And I think it's a great opportunity for you to let people know because I think what just happened here over the last hour and a half, people fell in love with Juan. And so I think that they're going to want more of it. And so where can they get anything that you produce? So on any major podcast platform, you can find one-on-one podcast. My website's t-j-j-oj-j-p.com.

You can find me on YouTube. You can find me on Rumble, Twitter, TikTok, Instagram is my main account at the Juan-on-Huan podcast. And yeah, that's pretty much where you can find me, man. I appreciate it. I have on my website, I have a comic book. I have a publication, like a little zine. I have a homunculus owner's manual too, by the way,

where it goes through the entire history of the homunculus from the start to the end. So I have that. You can check that on my website. No homunculus guaranteed. That looks like a chick track, man. That looks like... Yeah, exactly.

That's awesome. I want one. I want one bad. Oh, send me your P.O. box, Tony, and I'll send you some. I had, bro, when we were going to meet up, I had a whole thing for you. and you flaked. So, I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding. No, like if you come back up, if you do come up, they'll bring them with you. Save some postage. But, yeah, listen, I had no control over it. Like, the salon next door changed ownership. The lady gave the salon to her niece, and her niece comes in and renovates it. And just so having they were renovating that weekend. And holy crap.

Because I was debating, I was like, can I get away with it? And when I told you, I couldn't, we couldn't record because it was going to be too loud. I was like, shoot, did I overreact? And then it's just like, wha. I'm like, oh, shoot. Of course they would have picked that weekend out of all the weekends that it could have been. It had to be that exact. But hey, dude, things happened for a reason.

It was a good thing that they pushed it back because, like I said, I was able to dig deeper. And it's funny. Because my dad has been in Gatlinburg this past week, too. Really? He's on vacation up there. But yeah, we'll set something up and we'll make it happen. It's not a big deal. Yeah, man.

I still love you, bro. Oh, man. Dude, after this conversation, I love you more. It's been great. But everybody, check them out, one on one podcast. Very original, but not so original name, one on one. I love it. But it's perfect.

And, dude, you killed it today. I appreciate you being here. Everybody, thanks for listening to this show. If you enjoyed it, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share this show. But take that stinking link, share it with everybody. And if you don't want to share it, if you don't like me, that's cool. There's a lot of other people in your life you don't like.

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