The Confessionals - 588: Live MH370 Discussion

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

In Episode 588: Live MH370 Discussion, Tony is joined by Jack The Producer, and Jason from AFK Discussions. They have a candid conversation about the footage of the Malaysian MH370 flight and the strange appearance of UFOs seen in the video. The conversation gets into various aspects, including the authenticity of the video, the possibility of it being reverse-engineered technology, and the debate between extraterrestrial and terrestrial origins for these objects. They try to maintain an open-minded approach and highlight the complexities of the subject, emphasizing that the truth is still being sorted out in this intriguing mystery.Jason's podcast AFK Discussions: https://linktr.ee/afkdiscussionsJack The Producer's Instagram: @jack_theproducerThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSThis episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give onlinetherapy a try at betterhelp.com/yup and get on your way to being your best self.GET Private Internet Access: piavpn.com/confessionalsGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals50" for 50% off plus the first box ships for free!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGET FIRSTLEAF: tryfirstleaf.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - ShutUp N DriveYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

Merkel Medias You and our cousin Sam What were you guys doing? You lit my uncle's house on fire Yeah, we did. Like he literally We said an actual fire

We're all downstairs And all we hear is the kids upstairs Uh Ah And we're like, what the heck is that? And they're like, fire. Fire! Fire!

This was all circulating Around the base That a giant had to kill But no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant.

With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. somebody else shoot him in the face shoot him in the face they basically decapitated something pulling at my leg and I look over and there are two small getting pulled off the bed ended in this bush and I touch air couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster welcome to the show everybody you're listening to the Confessionals podcast I'm your host Tony Merkel thanks for being here if you've a crazy wild experience you want to share with me on the show go ahead and shoot me in email my email is contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. That's contact at the confessionalspodcast.com.

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decided to do it live on YouTube. And we have some people here in studio. It is 20 of 11 at night. Here we are finally. We're sitting down to record. We plan on doing it at 8.30. Here we are almost I don't know how many hours later. I'm already toast. So we got two guys here in studio and we have the newly adopted pet, studio pet maybe. I don't know. We'll see how she does at my house. But if she doesn't do well at my house, I'll bring her back to the studio. A stray cat came into the office today and kind of adopted us. So she's laying here on a chair next to me, just sleeping away. And we got to pick out a name. So, hey, listen, friends, if you're listening to this live, give us some names in the chat. So this cat, she's like a calico kind of cat. I don't want to lift her up right now. She might walk on the table a little bit

later. But give us some names in the chat. If you have some ideas for this cat's name, it's a girl, go ahead and drop the names in the chat for us. But now that I'm done talking about the most important guests of the show, let's get to the leftovers here. We have Jack, the producer. Jack, how you doing, man? I'm good. Good, man. And we also have Jason from AFK discussions. Jason, what's up, man? What's up? How's it going, man? Tell people about your podcast. I have a podcast, AFK discussions, like Tony said. And we just take a subject each week and we discuss it. I'm one half of the team.

So it's myself and my co-host Thai. And I am a believer in all the things supernatural. And Thai is very skeptical. So we kind of have that good balance of back and forth and discussing things. So it's pretty cool. Yeah. So check it out. AFK discussions.

You do some really cool graphics, man. In fact, you've done a lot of stuff for me in the past and probably in the future, too. You're a very skilled photographer. help us out at our events and stuff. So you've become a pretty good friend because I'd like to utilize your talents. But no, so you actually, actually let me say this way. You have some new developments going on. Are you free to talk about that yet? I don't know what you're referring to. I'm trying to think. We have a common friend. Oh, yeah. Probably not. Probably not. Yeah. Okay. So we won't talk about that yet. But you have some things.

things going on. And, well, we'll talk about it on a future date. Yeah. Because you'll be back on the show. In fact, we actually recorded with you, what was it, two, three weeks ago? Um, I think it was two weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago here in studio was a Saturday morning, you and your friend from work came in and talked and that will be going up for members. I think next week, right, Jack? If I remember correctly, next week. So next week, the members will hear that conversation. So Jason, man, he's popping in here left and right in the studio. I'm popping. Yeah. Well, this is kind of what I wanted. I wanted to have. have an environment when I moved down here to Tennessee where I had local friends that just kind of

were able to pop into the studio. It's like a dream come true for me to have a facility outside of my house so that I can just not have to worry about people knowing where I live or working around my kids' sleep schedule. I can just do whatever I need to do when I need to do it. And this has been just absolutely awesome. And you pop in, slim, I call them slim now. We used to call them Big Josh. I used to call I'm big, but he's lost, man, probably near 50 pounds. And so, he sent a super chat. Did he? Yeah. What do you say? I just wanted to say, I just love watching y'all spin in those chairs. And I love the fact Tony's actually wearing a hat. Don't see that often. Oh, there it is. There it is. I have actually a whole closet full of hats. I like the idea of hats, but then I usually

forget to put them on or whatever. And I was getting ready to come in here tonight. And I saw this hat all the way in the back. And I saw the side logo. I was like, what the heck a hat is that? And I pulled it out. And I was like, oh, man, I'd never even wore that hat before. It's, it says famous enough. And it's the idea that, you know, I don't need to be famous because God knows me. You know, that's why I said, I forget what it says in the back here. What does I say, guys? Known by God. Yeah, known by God. So it's that. I was like, man, that's such a cool hat. I bought it and never wore it until now. So here we are wearing a hat. But anyways, I used to, I used to call him big. But now he's dropping all that weight. So I'm calling him Slim.

In fact, I changed his name of my phone to Slim. But thanks for chiming in there, Slim. But yeah, the idea was when we came down here, I wanted to have the ability to just kind of have people swing through. And it's turning into slowly, but it's turning into what I envisioned when I first started talking about coming down here, which was I really wanted to turn this area into a place where other content creators thrived and moved to.

and there are a lot of people talking about coming here and coming through here, even if it's not to move here. So I'm really excited about the future and what we have going on. But Jason, welcome, man. Welcome. Thanks. I'm glad to be here. Awesome, man. Well, so we came out with an episode today that I knew was going to, you know, kind of upset people, some people, and some people are going to love it.

It's going to be a mixed thing, you know. you know, it's kind of out of my bag in a sense, you know, where it's, it was heavy conspiratorial, right? And, but what I found very enticing, I guess, when I first came across the whole thing was the fact that, yeah, this is conspiratorial,

but it has a very real paranormal angle to it. And I was like, and how can I not talk about portals, you know? And so the way that whole thing came together was just so quick. I didn't even have time to really consider a whole lot. I mean, from the time that I was tagged in his comment to the time that he was in my studio was less than 48 hours. Really? Yeah. I mean, it went from, it was actually Saturday morning.

It was probably like 2 o'clock Saturday morning, I think it was. And I saw the tag and I commented on it. And I just commented saying, here's my. email hit me up and we'll talk freely. And by the time I woke up at 7 o'clock in the morning, he was already emailing me with his phone number. I was driving in here, I think, to talk to you and your friend. And I called him and talked to him. And by the time we were done, I was shopping around for plane tickets to get him to fly in here. And he flew out that night. And he was here and we recorded Sunday and sent him back to where he came from. So yeah, yeah, it was a very quick turnaround.

But what did you guys think of this whole episode in the conversation that he and I had? Just general conversation here and general thoughts. Jackie, I know you produced the whole show. If people don't know, you do all the audio production now. I've been able to hand that off to you. And I thought that that would actually give me more of a life. But it turns out when you run a business, it's just more work. It's just like, I mean, here I am.

It's almost midnight. I'm back at the studio. But, Jack, you produced that whole episode, so you kind of combed through the audio and things like that. What were some things that kind of stood out to you as far as the whole conversation? What were your thoughts generally? So first of all, the fact that the videos were actually true, were real. Because it's such a... That's debatable.

Well... It is. It's debatable. I mean, people online are debating it, you know? Yeah, anything is debatable. You can say that about literally anything. So, I mean, but with the evidence that he brought forth, it was one of those things where it's like, when you see that kind of thing on a video, you're like, that just doesn't look right now. It doesn't help that it's not like, I don't know, because it, I'm like stumped on it. You know, the skeptic in me wants to just be like, this can't be real. Seeing a portal on a video cannot be real. It's real. But I was going through it, it was like, you know, I was able to see those videos several times. I'm watching them over and over.

over and over and replaying them, just putting them in the video and all of that stuff, on top of the fact that he has so much other information that he's explaining, you know, when he's going through the evidence that he has towards not just the eyewitnesses, but also the people who were VFX artists, you know, people who worked on Top Gun Maverick, you know, in my head, it's like if people who are on that level editing and producing videos and creating VFX, they're saying that that's a lot of. something that they wouldn't be able to do or that they would have had to cheat to be able to create. It's like, you know. Yeah. And even that guy though from Top Gun, I mean, he said that in the

comment, he said that, you know, he's still not sure if that video is real or not, but he's saying that it would be very hard for him to create what he is seeing. And, you know, there was a lot of the conversation that he, I mean, he had so much information. You know, Ashton had so much much information. It was... More than what we even covered in the actual interview. He had more stuff that came after.

Yeah. You know, so it's... Yeah. Absolutely. What were your thoughts on it? So, back when all this first happened, I remember it very vividly. I went down the

conspiratorial route, like, hard. Just kind of researching everything. Like, where did this plane go? Was it, you know, abducted by aliens? Is this another sort of Bermuda triangle kind of thing in a different part of the world where, you know, planes just disappear. And I had also heard, you know, the hijacking theories

and everything. But I didn't see the video until, I guess it was a couple months ago, it popped up on TikTok. And I saw it there first. And I didn't, out of context, I didn't know what it was. I just was scrolling through and I saw this video of the, you know, the orb was flying around and the plane disappears. I was like,

oh, what is that? Then my wife sends it to me on Instagram and says, you know, this was maybe the Malaysian plane and I watched it again. And I was like, that's, that's so weird. And then, you know, I really didn't think anything of it. I was like, maybe it's a hoax. Maybe, you know, who knows what it is. And then whenever you showed the evidence again and with the different, like the thermal and the, you know, all the different angles and stuff, was it the, Is it?

The drone. The drone. I was trying to, it was like something eagle. I can't remember what the name of the drone was. Golden Eagle. I don't know. Something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. So that footage and the satellite footage together, I was like, man, this is getting real, you know? Yeah. I mean, you know, it's like, what do you make of it? You know, I'm not a professional video or anything guy, you know? Like, I have no idea. All I know is it looks fascinating. and I got a guy here that has done a lot of research and presents a very convincing argument.

And so, you know, I wanted to have that conversation with him and let him share. And that's what I told him. I don't know if I said it on the show or not, but generally speaking, when somebody has like this kind of story to share where, you know, it's lengthy. And it's not like them just sharing, you know, here's this experience, here's that experience, kind of thing and it's just like it's one concise story. I just tell them this start at the beginning, where this all started for you and take us to current time. And I always tell people, just talk, you know, and don't feel like you're talking too much. We're here to hear you and just let it out, you know, and that's what I told him. And that's what he did. He just let it out

and he shared it all. And I thought it was a fantastic interview. I had a great conversation with them. I have a friend here who is in the military and he has a lot of connections in the military. And he asked some of the people about this footage. And I don't know who these people are. I think this one guy, it looks like he has experienced flying drones. And so before I even get to that, I don't even know if I can actually say who this person is. And I'm talking. about, so I'm going to refrain just in case. But what kind of got me was the two, and maybe I'm just a simple mind, you know, but the two cameras, you know, like two completely different cameras, capturing the same event. And I mean, again, I'm sure you can fake these things, you know? And there's

been, there were people, as soon as I said I was doing this interview before I even dropped it, If you're like, that was debunked. I'm like, well, just listen to the guy. Let the guy talk and let him share what he's looked into. Like, that's one thing I don't understand is that, you know, this, this community that we're in and stuff sometimes are so quick to just say, no, it's not real. It's like, but aren't you here because you're fascinated by the seemingly impossible? The stuff that shouldn't be possible, that's why we're all here.

And then when somebody's coming forward and saying, yeah, I think this is real, let me show why. No, it's not possible. It's like, come on, man. Yeah. Relax. Especially when it's like, it's something that has multiple sources of video evidence. Yeah.

On top of the fact that there's a lot of other corroborating evidence, you know, when it's the satellite, uh, the ping locations, you have, uh, the satellites that are actually the,

the, the, the, double satellites that fly over that area. I forget what the numbers were and all that. But they have specific coordinates on the screen. You know, there's,

there's, even the little things, like he mentioned, like the frame rate of the mouse over the video, that's different from the video, and that actually is a legitimate thing. It's not something that was put in there in VFX. So when you have all of those things, there's so much more. There's other things that he mentioned, and people just brush it off because you have somebody who's out there, Metabunk, who decides that they're going to take an old 90s, doom video game, take the explosion.

and then put that over the VFX, the video, take those VFX and put it over the video and say, oh, these two points match up, this one point matches up, it's debunked. And it's like he shows, like that's the thing Ashton had all of the evidence there, and he has the

debunk, you know, the proof that they gave you where they had the explosion overlaid over top of the portal. And it's like it points out, one point matches up right here, nothing else. And the entire explosion matches up, not the color, not the rings, nothing. It's just that one point. And so it's

just like, things can look similar. It doesn't mean they're the same. That's what he was also saying about the people. They can look similar. It doesn't mean that they're the same person. Yeah. So that's something that just people are, people still are saying it's debunked, it's debunked, like everywhere. It's just. Well, I mean, and people are, I mean, that's fine. But both can be true to be honest with you. I mean, uh, I, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, it. I, Both could be true or both could be false, to be honest with you, actually. I mean, the debunker could be wrong, you know. And at the same time, Ashton could be wrong, you know?

Like, Ashton's been researching this and collecting information and to the best of his ability going where the information leads him, you know. But he could be wrong, and so could the debunker. You know, maybe this footage is fake and the debunker's explanation is wrong. And so is Ashton's explanation of why it's real. You know, I personally heavily lean towards Ashton's explanation. Maybe it's because I like portals. I don't know.

But, you know, I find that he presents a very convincing argument. Going back to this drone pilot, he brought up something here in the chat that I have access to that it was sent to me, that I find interesting because he said that when he was asked, do you think the MH370 footage is legit? He said, me personally, no. The beginning shows that the airline

are flying in front of that drone with little to no turbulence. It's all like shorthand here, guys. Just bear with me as I read it. With little to no turbulence, and you can see the jet trail. A jet like that would flip us, meaning the drone. If you remember back to when that Chinese fighter that flew in front,

okay, that's more personal stuff. But basically he's saying, I guess as close as that drone was to the jet as it went over, it would have flipped the drone, you know? And that's a drone operator. So, I mean, what do you say to that? I don't know. But that's an interesting point of view and perspective as somebody who flies military, drones for a living, you know.

So that's what I mean. Like, I mean, both could be true. Both could not be true. You know, people could be wrong on both fronts. And just what I like doing is I like having conversations with people and letting them share, you know. It's like that's a perspective to take into anything you look into. You know, these people could be right when they claim that, you know, Sasquatch is just a being. It's just an ape or a bipedal, you know, humanoid.

Yeah, we're already getting into Bigfoot. But the thing is, if you don't keep an open mind on these things, on these topics, on anything, really, I mean, when it comes to things that can be that you have evidence of in one way or another, that you have experiences that you have, you know, whether it's video or whether it's someone's personal encounter, you know, keep an open mind of these things, especially when it comes to something that I don't know, I'm looking at the videos and stuff. and like even when you when you mentioned the turbulence that you're talking that the drone pilot had talked about it's like that was something that Ashton had said too that the turbulence you can see that the turbulence made the drone shaky yeah I do remember that you know and and that's one of those things that's like it's it's evident in the video but also he also he mentioned that you can also see when it passes through the con trail that there's still a sign a signature a heat signature on that you know the whole point of that is, you know, to show that, yeah, it was affected by the Con Trail. So it was there.

They're both in, they're both physically in that location. And it was far enough away. It had passed through long enough ago that it's not being, you know, it's not being affected by the propulsion of the jet engine. So, I mean, I don't know, because I don't know, he watched the video. And he would have more experience than that than any of us, clearly. It's just maybe I'm now I'm not keeping it up in mind, you know? Look at you. I have to kind of like... Jack is no longer a skeptic.

Like, I want to believe it. I do. I do. For six months and he's all bought in. He's like, portals are real. Bigfoot comes through them. Yep. End a story.

Don't even tell me otherwise. That's kind of funny. Yeah. So, it's true. I was thinking about the drone also. Just, you know, coming from a photography standpoint, like, the cameras on those, they have to be, like, really good. I'm thinking, you know,

zooming in from quite a distance away wouldn't be a thing, you know, so it could be far enough away from the plane so the turbulence wouldn't affect it. That's what I'm thinking. I mean, I have a 200-millimeter lens, and, you know, I can zoom in from the back of a room to, you know, someone standing on the stage, his face.

I don't see that being out of the possibility of it being further back than what we're, what we can perceive on the video, you know? So if I'm following you correctly, are you saying that is that an objection to the authenticity? No, no, no, it's four. So, like, what the drone pilot was saying, you know, it would flip if it got close to the plane.

Well, who's to say that, you know, what zoom they're at on the plane? So they could be further back away from the plane. Yeah. Because when that video starts up, when you see that thermal video. It actually zooms in. Yeah, it's far enough away.

that it has to zoom in to begin with to see the plane. That's right, because the plane initially if I remember correctly in that video, the plane initially was pretty far away and they had to zoom in or... It's far enough away. It's definitely far enough

away that it has to zoom in because like you see the spec. It's not up close where it would be like fully framed in the video. So that's why it's like to me there's enough reasonable doubt that what he's saying, he may not have seen the distance, right? It's difficult to see how far away it is, you know, in that video. But it definitely is far enough away that it has

to zoom in a decent amount. And then it like, you know, it goes like 2000 X on it, you know, because it's like full frame on the plane and the, the, the, I think that was probably done in post, right? I mean, I don't know. They were, they were locked. They had to. Well, I think, I think he was describing, Ashton was talking about how the way the leaker, leaked the video. There was something... I forget, again. For the satellite footage.

No, I thought for the drone footage. I thought... Because sometimes on the drone footage, you actually don't see the plane at all. On both of them. On both of them, you don't see the plane at all at times. Because when you're talking about what he's saying about in post, the satellite footage in particular is one of the parts that he was talking about where it would drag across the screen, then you would see it come back into frame. and because he's talking about it being a larger,

a larger screen. Probably the same thing for the thermal. I don't know. But yeah, it's like there is some post-production no matter what because they stripped the thermal and made it that, I forget what it was called, just the blue,

if you remember that, where you could see the black trails. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And so like either way, whether it was post, you know, zoomed in or on the plane.

What do you make of those trails? Are those trails, like, are they supposed to be like cold spot or hot spots? The trails from the orbs? From thermal, it's cold. That's what he was saying, yeah. So those are cold spots. Yeah. That's interesting.

That's wild. Yeah. How does that, that's interesting. Well, so that's the whole like gravity, the whole, what is it, like reduction of gravity in front? Yeah, Bob's czar stuff. Right, yeah. Because, like, how else does that happen? How else do you go and have no, like,

There's no heat signature except for a little speck on the orbs. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I thought you would know. Jason. Jason, why are you here for? I don't know.

I'm still trying to figure that out. I get tired of talking to him, so I wanted to invite you. We see each other every day. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know. There's something you said about the cameras that I don't remember where I was going to go with that now. but one thing you did say the zooming in

that actually helps me frame it in my mind now because I was thinking when he mentioned about how it would flip you over I was like yeah that actually makes sense like I mean as somebody who flies drones you would think that they would know but if the if the camera was zoomed in

on the plane and that made me further away from it which means that when the plane does go by and you see that little turbulence of shaking which would maybe even, like Ashton said a lot, you know, like a lot of times people would say things that actually prove the video, right? Well, you mentioned about how they probably don't have a 200-millimeter lens, right? It's probably way better than two-end-a-mills. Oh, you think it's way better?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, military grade, right? Yeah. But it's just this idea that, you know, it's zoomed in, but just not far enough to not have the camera shake at all. Yeah. I mean, it's, so another thing about the shake of the camera, so the farther you zoom in, the more shake will be.

Like, so if you're trying to handhold a camera and you don't have like a, the shake reduction turned on, it's almost impossible if you zoomed all the way in to hold it steady. Even with like the shake reduction turned on, you, I mean, just a, just a millimeter of movement. it feels like you're like shaking through the lens because you're zoomed in. It's, I can't explain it. No, I think everybody's like, when you've zoomed in real deep. You know, like when you're looking through binoculars and you move just a little bit and everything just...

Every time I capture Bigfoot on film, I got to zoom in on them and everybody tells me my hand's shaking and why is it so shaky? Because I zoomed in when I saw the Bigfoot, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, that's the way it works. Yeah. I don't know how drones work from... This is coming from my extensive knowledge of drones, which would be from movies.

I think that in there are two pilots, like one is piloting the drone and the other person is working the camera. I think that's how it works. I'm not sure, at least in like I think the spy drones are more like that. That sounds like it would make sense, though, because you would think there's multiple, you know, levers or whatever you have to do to be able to make the plane fly in a direction you want. and then you're like also what you have two three hands now you're like and you're also looking behind you and make sure you're flying straight and then you're going to have to look behind you to you to you know like take pictures of spy stuff I don't know that would work now now you got AI running these drones I mean that's who new era we live in new era we live in so um what do you guys make of the UFO situation do you I mean like he kept on calls calling them orbs, right? And I know Ashton, he came in with the mindset of, I just want to present what I have here, you know, and I'm over here like, man, you got aliens on footage, bro, you know?

But like, what do you guys make of the orbs that he calls or what I'm calling UFOs, you know, like nobody knows, right? But I mean, based off of what we saw on the video and stuff, I mean, what's your gut say? Do you think this is something that was? human or do you think it was something that was more ET or interdimensional? You know, what are your thoughts? Either one of you? I don't...

I'm on such a fence about if it's extraterrestrial or terrestrial or interdimensional. Because I do believe, you know, we have the technology to make stuff like that because, I mean... Reverse engineering. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, so I, I, I've had an experience recently.

I sent you the photo. It looked like a similar to what, you know, those, I mean, from what you could tell on the video, they look like little orbs. I mean, what I saw was very similar shape. So I don't know. I mean, I lean towards more like interdimensional than extraterrestrial. But it's just the way they move, I mean, it has to be so fast to be going. going around a plane and keeping up with the forward velocity of the plane while spinning, I just, it's hard to fathom that that could be something we made that could do all that at

the same time, you know? So, you know, forward motion and rotating around, I don't know, it's beyond what I can fathom right now. It's hard to put into words, you know, when I'm thinking, because it's so different, you know. It's very different. about you? I would say, I would go along the lines of kind of what he was explaining. I think that it could have been reverse engineered, whether it was from something, you know, that was found, that crashed, whatever it is, or it was our intelligence that made it.

But still, the point is, I have no clue. I honestly, bottom line is, I don't know. My mind is just, I've watched these so many times. I agree. I agree that I have no clue how we could have created something that would have, that would move the way it does. The speed, the pattern it moves in, but also just the fact that it does end up what he explained with the whole

wormhole generator, how he found that there was a patent on an actual wormhole generator where they collide and then, you know. So I think like, yeah, that actually makes sense. maybe we did create something like that. And then I go back to the thought that this is a plane that is flying into this this teleportation, little portal

that it explodes and everything disappears and somehow it's magically gone. How did we create that? So I'm caught in between that mentality of it's non-human intelligence or we actually did create it. And it's AI, like he said. So yeah, that's my wishy-washy-fence sitting stance.

So it made me think whenever he was talking about that, the Philadelphia experiment. Yeah. That's the first thing that came from mind. I got a bone to pick with my uncle about that. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's just, I mean, if it wasn't a portal and teleported away, maybe it was just made, like, cloaked or invisible. And they, you know, took up some from there. I don't know.

Yeah. So I had my uncle on the show probably like three years ago now, four years ago, and he came to my house in Pennsylvania, sat in the studio with me, and I asked him, I said, what about the Philadelphia experiment, bro? And he laughed at me.

He's like, no, he's like, that's just nonsense. But this is the same guy who sat, and I hope he's listening right now. I hope he's listening right now. This is the same guy who spent 23 years in the Navy and looked me dead in the eyes and said he never saw, UFO and never heard of anybody else seeing UFOs for 23 years in the Navy. Come on, bro. Like, tell me you're lying to me without telling me you're lying to me. That's the way I see it.

Well, I, you know, I mean, some people just don't see anything. So he would never believe it. You know, I mean, think about yourself. You've never seen a Bigfoot. And I believe in it yet. Yeah, but if you didn't have your mindset, if you didn't have your life that you have, I mean, some people just wouldn't believe that kind of stuff. Yeah, I understand. I understand. But, I mean, I just, I don't know because we have, I was just watching last night. So when I got home, where was I, was I here last night late? Yes. Yeah, what, what were we doing here? I don't remember. I don't even remember what we were doing. We were both here very late. Like, like, oh, it was, I was on caravan to midnight with John B. Wells. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. So that ended at midnight and we finished up here. We left around 1 o'clock. I go home. And after doing an hour and a half live radio, I was kind of like amped up, you know? I was. I couldn't go to sleep. I was awake, you know, so I went downstairs and turned on the TV and was watching this, this show about UFO encounters and stuff. And they had some guy that's had a lot of years

in government agencies, and he actually left to be able to speak out about this stuff. He couldn't be complicit in it. And he said that this stuff happens all the time, all the time. And it's like, I forget how he said it, but the number 300 sticks out of my head and I don't know why. So, like, I don't know if he was, if he said that, but it just, it, it's an incredible amount of, uh, encounters and sightings that the military is having. And I don't think that's current or just, just recent, you know, I think that was something that has been going on for a long time. Um, so anyways, Philadelphia experiment.

Are you right, Jack? You're good over there? Yeah, I just keep hearing like, uh, echo of your voice or his voice. I'm hearing it too. You're hearing an echo? Like an electronic? Just turn your volume down. I don't think my phone's on.

Okay. Never mind. Man. Live production right here. I volumes are down. I thought someone like was outside talking this. It might be the browser over there if you want to check it. Let's to see if something is on.

Just mute the YouTube channel if it's on. But yeah, the Philadelphia experiment I find very fascinating. And that's one of the things that I started thinking of when I had first started hearing this. And I didn't think I brought up the Philadelphia experiment on the interview, or did I? I don't think you did. Jack's saying yes. You say, no. I'll take Jack's answer because Jack went through the audio. Yeah. You would just passively listen. I listened. I listened twice. You're like, I know I'm going to be going into Tony's studio to talk about this stuff. So I'm just going to passively listen and just tell him I listen to it. No, I did. I got notes.

Yeah, good. But I think that, you know, with what we're talking about here, we're really kind of talking about something where it's multiple, in my mind, it seems like it's multiple different technologies coming together in one event. I mean, we're seeing three UFOs. That itself is bonkers circling around the plane. Were the UFOs, did he suggest that the UFOs were response for opening the wormhole according to that patent? Yep. That was kind of of the insinuation. Okay. So it makes you wonder,

were these UFOs created for the idea of a portal, or were they created separately and then added technology to it to be able to do this whole portal thing? And how many times have they done it before? How often have they done it? If this is real, you know, if this has actually happened

and it's the way it seems in the video. I mean, I can't imagine that's the first time, you know? Maybe it is. But it would also, like, it does make sense in my mind that you would film it. You know, you have a drone in the area. You know what you're about to do. And you want to have it on video so that, you know, people maybe back at command station or whatever watching live can see what's going on in the moment.

So it's not just, you know, okay, it's done now. We want to make sure it's done kind of thing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. The question is, and I think it was presented on the interview, is, why would you record it? That was your question. Oh, really?

Well, I think it was a good question. But I just don't understand why you would record such a thing. I mean, it's one thing to be able to watch live. Like, for instance, I have a drone, and, you know, I often fly it without an SD card in it.

And I can fly it, and I can see everything out there. I can go see the mountains, everything. I'm just not recording it, you know? And with something like this... Well, I mean, that's going to make you think. You can see it from your phone, right? You can see what the drone is seeing from your phone. Was somebody who was at command or whatever,

where they had the screen, did they just screen record when it was happening? And it wasn't actually recorded. So you think that, yeah, that's a good possibility. You know, there's no archive of it. They don't have anything in their database, but they recorded it from the screen to then... That would go with Ashton's thoughts

as to how he feels this person is either in jail or dead now. Because, I mean, if you're there in person, a trusted person to be in this operation, and you're recording it on your phone. But, I mean, there's two videos. So is he recording both videos separately? I guess. Or maybe the satellite is already recording? I don't know. Well, I mean, that was kind of the question that was posed. Like, are the satellites constantly recording? And then you have a, like a worldwide loop that you can just replay to know what's going to be. going on at any moment at any time. I don't think that's the case that's so much storage.

Maybe it is. Maybe it is. Yeah, I wouldn't put it. Well, because of the fact, because of the fact that it was talking about it. They got storage places on Mars probably. Because of the fact that it was talked about that you can direct where they, you know, where the cameras zoom at, like where they look at. Like, that says to me that they wouldn't necessarily need to record anything,

everything at all the time. Because in the scrubbing through all the footage, you know, whatever, whoever they are, whatever they want to look for, you know, they could just find what they, who they're looking for or what they're looking for, zoom in there and there, you got your video, you know you got it. But the other thing is, and this is not even on the lines of the footage, but there's a question I had in my head when I was listening to this a few times,

is what in the world, what would you be like, how do you have the energy in three orbs to create a portal? when at least from what we're told at CERN and the other Hadron Colliders, the amount of energy it takes to create... Little. Yeah. Little bitty thing. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Somebody's lying. Right. Cern. Oak Ridge. Come on. Fess up. We know. We already know.

Is your battery dying? Yeah. It's not charging at all? No. Bummer. What's the power at? 3%. 3%.

Yeah. Yeah, this battery stinks. Man. It says it's charging, so it's just not... Okay. Well, there's that. Don't touch it. But no, I mean, listen, this is a complex thing.

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She's waking up. Hey, how you doing, huh? we got to figure out a name for you. There's a ton of names in the chat when you originally said it. Yeah? Yeah. What are some of the names? Oh my gosh, I got to go back.

You got to go back? Yeah, far too. Hold on. Well, now the computer is, uh... It's glitching. It's glitching. Anyway. Fill the time.

I'm filling the time. Fill in the time. So I wonder... You know, Elon's trying to send people to Mars, right? Yeah. Are they going to, like, send cats to Mars to Mars to? like animals? Maybe.

Probably. I'd imagine they are. Lucky's flu in space. So like when you send somebody to Mars, is this going to be something like they have to go into a deep sleep to make that trip? I don't think so. He said it was a, what did he say? It was like a three-month trip or something like that?

Three-month trip. Yeah. So, and this is a trip where people will be able to walk around and stuff while they're floating into space. I guess. I'm not sure how it's going to work. Yeah, I'm curious about this because it's not. It's just one thing where it's like you get on a roller coaster ride and you go for the ride and then it's over.

I mean, we're talking about a real commitment here. We're going to go to Mars and we're going to be at Mars for a while and pack enough drawers, you know? Like, it's like we're going to, we're going out, honey. And I imagine they'd be taking animals. You know, I'd imagine so. I mean, plants and. Seems like they would have to take animals. What's that movie that they were planet, was it Planet of the Apes where they were on a quest for another planet?

What was that movie that we used to watch as kids, Jack? Do you remember that movie? Lost in Space? Lost in space, man. That's the loss of space. With Joey. Yeah, that's a loss of space vibes that I get with this. Like, I'm feeling like we're going to, like, stumble into something that we're not going to be able to get out of, and it's going to be a problem.

You got those names at all? I got those names. I was just about to tell you. So we have a couple good ones here. Here we go. The Catalyst says mischievous. Mischievous. And Sergio says the catalyst.

Got it. Then we also have Fessie, Jolene, sneaky, Faith, Fizz. I don't know,

Chairman Miao. Chairman, that's good. I like that. That's a good one. Chairman Miao. I like that. Yeah,

and Freddie. Freddie. Well, it's a girl, so we're not going to do Freddie. But I didn't like any of those. You didn't like Chairman Miao? No,

I didn't. But here's the thing. In all honesty, naming the pets at my house is a responsibility that I don't have the privilege of. It is something that my son consistently takes over. And so I'm pretty sure he's going to come up with a name fairly quickly and we'll take that as gospel. But anyway, she's waking up. It's really cute. So, all right, we're talking about this UFO stuff going around the plane. And it's going in this fast motion. You know, I didn't get a chance to see the patent that he was referring to. But we see

this portal open up. The plane vanishes. I've gone through the video very, very, very slowly, trying to catch this plane in mid portal. And there is one frame where it looks like you could still see it's gone, but you can still see part of the back wing. of the plane on the one that's called, but the one that sticks up on the very end. And it's just like one frame. And it's, you know, I don't know what I'm looking at, but it does look like that. But let's just say that this is real, man. Like, you know, do I think it's real? I lean more towards is real than not. But I'm not going to, if somebody comes out and actually proves that it's not real. I'm not going to wake up crying tomorrow morning about it, you know?

Let's just say it's real, though. Where did that plane go? like where did that plane go? You know, like we know the theories and thoughts behind it, but, you know, is it as simple as it was teleported to another location

instantaneously on Earth? Or was it taken into another realm? Well, his point of space time being warped when you go through something like that. That makes sense. So it would have,

like, it almost couldn't be instantaneously. It couldn't be that you were, you know, zapped here, you know, in studio and we appeared at your house at a second later. It would be time dilation. Something would, we would have. It's sped up, but it's definitely you have to go through time still. For us, it's a second. For the earth, for the people here, it's however many years, like depending on what the, I forget what the equation is or whatever it is. But that's the point.

It's just that, like, there's such a warping of space time. when that kind of thing happens. Because it's a mini wormhole. Right? Like it's a small wormhole. Yeah. So, and that kind of leads to the idea of, I remember we talked about this on that recording too,

because I suggested that this plane pops back up years later down the road. And did you ever see the TV show manifest? I have not. There was another show that was very similar, though. It's like a plane disappeared and they came back. I don't know. Maybe that was manifest.

It was a few years ago when it came out. Yeah, this was a few years ago, too. I think it's on Netflix. If people have Netflix, you can check it out. But, you know, it's very similar, you know, in the sense that people, I mean, based off of this theory, that this plane goes into a portal disappears. Now, in the movie or in the TV show manifest, it shows that they're an electrical storm and they get hit by lightning or something. something and then they're gone. And then you see like years later, have you ever seen a Jack?

Yeah, well, I only watched a couple episodes. Yeah, it was when I think either Ben or Gemma was a baby. And I was like up, you know, early morning. And actually what it was is when I was still driving truck, there was a long period of time where I slept in the couch because I had to get up early and the alarm was waking up the baby and all that stuff. So I would fall asleep to watching TV shows. And I know I binged on or on manifest. And when he's telling us about this stuff, that's all I was thinking about. I was like, this sounds like manifest. And we see this portal open up. This thing's gone. And in the TV

show, these people that disappeared on the plane, like, I think it's years later. It reappear. They like they reappeared and they land at an airport where they were going with no recall of, you know, time lapsing. Yeah. And that's exactly what Jack's talking about. And what's interesting is that when these people came back, you start seeing how it unfolds where they're not the same people.

They have abilities. They're different. And I didn't watch the whole TV series, you know, uh, But I remember having the sense that these people, when they came back, it was almost like they were cloned. They weren't the same people. Like, they were replaced. And that's where I left off.

And maybe the audience, they're like, oh, you left off the best part, you know? But this whole story, this whole idea that we're dealing with here has a very eerily similar storyline. And it makes you really wonder, you know, how far. is the quote unquote fiction that we watch on TV from reality, you know? Yes. So one thing I was thinking about with that, you know, the whole, he brought up, was it was it the quantum tunneling or the Einstein Rosenbridge or, you know, where it folds time and they would travel, you know, through space and time into, you know, the future. So what's really big right now in a lot of media, especially in the Marvel films, is,

is this theory of branching timelines. And, you know, something happens here and it makes like, so the plane went through, but it didn't necessarily come back into our time. It, like, branched off into a different time. So, but that's huge everywhere. There's so much about that. So, you know, the media, they always tell you stuff without telling you stuff. So, I mean, that's just one possibility. maybe it is like a time dilation or it disappeared,

but it went to another, like another realm or another, you know, like the portal doesn't necessarily take you to another place on Earth, but it maybe takes you it to an alternate earth where, you know, things are just a little bit different,

you know, like the whole Mandela effect thing. Yeah. You know. Do you think that's possible? I don't know. I mean, I'm just,

I'm speculating just because media. I'm not judging you. I'm just asking. I feel like you're like, oh, man, he's judging me right now. There's just a lot of media about, you know, time travel and branching timelines and your time streams and how there's, you know, multiple different realities with different views than them. It's just really big now in media. I know, Jack, you're more of a movie guy than Tony. I mean, what do you think about that?

Can somebody re- iterate because I was commenting. No, okay. I was talking about, you know. Your time has come and gone, Jack. You're out. The Einstein-Rollison Bridge, what we're talking about, you know, with the time folding and, you know, the plane going through and going, like, forward in time, essentially. But I was saying that in media, like in the Marvel universe, there's all these branching timelines.

Okay, yeah. So you're talking about, like, multi-dimensional, type things. Yeah. Multiverse type thing. Yeah. There's different timelines. It's so big right now, I mean, across all media. And it just, that, I mean, kind of fits with that.

You know, it went somewhere, but not necessarily here. It could have gone to another dimension, another realm where everything is just a little bit different than it is here. You know what I'm saying? Could be. I have no clue. Yeah. It's just speculation. It's interesting thought.

I mean, like, I mean, we believe there's different dimensions. Yeah. You know, or at least like realms. What if, oh, interesting. So this is like a mix of manifest and what we're talking about here. So like in the show manifest,

like I don't know how it ended. You know, so I'm making it my own ending. What if the plane disappears, it reappears, and they are, it's a different version of those people. And those people that disappeared from this reality are in a different reality.

as the different people there. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. And so what if, a bunch of what ifs, this plane reappears 10 years from now. Man, golly, can you imagine, just sit here and fantasize with me for a second.

Oh, I know. Like, can you imagine, like, the Malaysian flight, MH370, requesting landing in China where it was going. Can you imagine that happening next year? It would be 10 years.

Imagine that. I mean, so many questions. And I think that there was, there's been instances where similar, at least let's just call it legends and lore of similar things happening with the Bermuda Triangle or something like that. Yeah.

Do you recall, any of you recall something like that? Because I feel like that that's something that actually has been talked about before. Anything specific about it? No, like planes... I feel like there was a story of a plane that went missing and then, you know, it reappeared. Yeah, I feel

like this... There is. Hang on. Hang on. It's coming back to me. This plane it disappeared like in the 50s or something, right? And then it actually came in for landing in the 90s, let's say. The people freaked out because they realized everything looked different and they were different timeline and the pilot took off. And the pilot took off.

plane just disappeared again. Something like that. It's probably not a real story or something, but man, can you imagine? I've heard the same story. There's also another story in Europe about the fighter pilot who was flying. I can't remember the destinations, but he went over where the airfield should be, but it was just a field. Or no, it was, I'm got this backwards.

This was in the past, and he was flying and he saw an airfield. where a field where there wasn't shouldn't be an airfield. A field or a field? Hey, I'm from the South guy. So, you know, give me a thing. Is that what you were thinking, Jack? Yeah. An airport.

So there should be in, this should not have been an airport, but there was one there. And I think the guy landed and refueled. And then on his way back, it wasn't there. And he realized that like years later, he was there. in the same spot where he landed and he was realizing oh this is now I mean these are the same type of planes

I was seeing back then this shouldn't have existed what's that what is that from is that a real story like it actually happened to a guy or it's like a made up story I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be a factual story okay yeah I mean like there's

going back to the Bermuda Triangle like there's a lot of lore around it you know there being you know different issues with instruments when you're flying, you know, planes not making it, you know, through or whatever, what have you. And I know there's a lot more I'm butchering it because I remember that being like one of the biggest things that everybody would talk about when you're a kid. It's like, oh, did you see the, you know, the plane? I don't know what I'm saying. There's just stuff that I remember as a kid

specifically in my mind of people talking about like random crazy things happening there. And yeah, maybe that's like one of those things that we talk about where it's something. like a thinning of the veil kind of thing. But yeah, you're making a face like... No, no, I actually, for like the first time here, I opened up the live chat on YouTube, and I saw that... Oh, now, where did it go here?

Here it is. Hollister said cat name, Philly for Philadelphia Experiment. Yeah. And I was like, hey, that's actually... I like that. Did you already say that one? No. Okay.

But yeah What were you to say? No Anyway, so Remita Triangle I said it was like a thinning of the veil Yeah for sure But absolutely is

I don't know if it has anything to do with it With You know What we're talking about though With the the The portals and the possibility of it being You know Like a wormhole

Because I mean If that's the If that story is from the Bermuda Triangle Maybe it was You know maybe that is something That happened there I'm not saying it wasn't.

I'm just saying from at least from what I remember, it's mostly like mechanical malfunctions and people lose direction and they fly the wrong way and then they get lost at the sea because they didn't know where they were but then they tend to find the wreckages. Like they find the planes at the bottom of the ocean

or something like that. You know, when we talk about this, this MH370, it didn't happen. They only found pieces. And all of that, all of the evidence surrounding those pieces, those pieces that they found, especially from what Ashton was saying about the barnacle growth on the, I think it's the propeller or the flap or whatever it was. Like it wasn't,

it wasn't conducive or it wasn't, you know, accurate for the amount of time it would have been in the ocean or the rotations it would have had and all that stuff. So. So let me ask you guys a question here. It's, uh, we got, uh, about 20, 23 minutes until, it is October 4th on the East Coast. Yeah, I know where you're going with this. Yeah, well, talk to me about it because I don't know much about it, but I saw somebody say, I hope Tony talks about the FEMA text. I'm like, I don't know much about the FEMA text.

I just see that everybody's upset about it. Haven't really, you know, had a chance to look into it other than, you know, they're testing emergency alert system. Yeah, so they're testing the emergency alert system. Apparently, I don't know. I've never heard of them testing it before. But so I've seen people. What universe?

I mean, that's something I feel like has happened always. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm not. That's why I don't know what's the big deal. Yeah, they supposedly they tested it every year, right? It's a thing that happens every year at a certain time. But I've never noticed it.

You know, I've never noticed my phone going off for a test. So apparently there's, the theory is that they're testing like 5G to, The theory is it's going to interrupt like your cells or something like that. They're using the 5G waves to... Oh, okay. So we're talking 5G stuff. Yeah, we're talking 5G stuff. And like, we got some literature over the weekend that was passed to us about a plandemic, possible plan.

Whoa! I was just going to say it. Don't say it again. Oh, I'm sorry. We're on YouTube. Sorry, I'm new to this. YouTube, don't strike. me.

It's not you, it's me. Anyway, so... Something's going to happen. Right. Possibly, not factually. Whatever. I just started the YouTube thing. So if I get kicked off, it is what it is.

I didn't know as a thing to do this. On YouTube, yeah. I'm still trying to learn the rules and stuff. I think I said to somebody recently today, I said, they said, did you put the interview on Rumble? I have it said so that every time I uploaded the YouTube, it automatically uploads the Rumble under the assumption that I'm going to be probably kicked off of YouTube someday.

It's probably going to happen. I don't know. But, yeah. So, mom, our mom sends us tons and tons and tons of text messages with current event topics, things that are going on around the world and yada, yada, yada. and she sent me a text today and here's what I'll show you, Tone. It's just, this is all about the FEMA thing.

Does she send that to you too? Yeah, she sent to me too. So did you read any of it? No, I didn't read it. Okay. I'll cut that for the morning. No. Mom doesn't listen to that.

She knows. I know. She knows. But yeah, yeah, so it's like, it's going to play over everything. That's what they were saying is like at 220, p.m. Eastern. It's going to play

the FEMA emergency signal over your supposed to supposedly. Going to go through your computer, your phone,

your tablets, you know, whatever it is that's, I don't know about TVs, but it's going to go all over.

And I don't know what the purpose is. You're saying it's for something else, you know, entirely than what they're claiming it would be for.

I don't know. I'm just saying that's what was handed to us. I haven't done much research on it, but apparently, I mean, this is something

that they do every year. So this says during the test cell towers will broadcast an emergency alerts message for approximately 30 minutes. Oh, that's a long time. Mobile phone users within the coverage area of a cell tower

will receive a message stating this is a test of the National Wireless Emergency Alert system. No action is needed. Just your soul. I still don't understand what the point. It's just a national test. All you have to do is open your arms wide, lay flat on the ground, and soak in the rays.

That's all you got to do. Oh, it is. There's going to be an alert on TVs and radios as well for a minute. Well, I remember back in the day in like the 80s and 90s. Yeah. It would always, you know, every once in a while, the TV would just go, you know, you get the lines and this is the test to the emergency broadcast system. You know, you can move that microphone closer to you. I don't tell you know where to side just to...

There you go. No, I remember that too. And it was always scary. It makes you jump every time it comes through, right? Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, so I guess we got that excitement coming for us today. What time? Round 2.

2.20 Eastern. 2.20 Eastern. So it's right around my nap time. It's going to wake me up. No, actually, my daughter should be waking up from nap by then. Well, and I don't think it's going to play any, like, noises. like an amber alert does on your phone. I'm not entirely sure because she didn't specify in the text,

and I'm not reading an article. But my assumption would be, because it said on TVs and broadcasts that it's going to obviously do the female alert, which would more than likely be the, but on your phone, if you're not looking at anything, maybe it comes up like an amber alert, maybe it doesn't, I don't know. What did that missile strike one do?

Remember when Hawaii had that, like, false alarm? Yeah. Do you guys remember? That woke up everybody. Well, does anybody remember if it made a noise? They had to it because everybody was on high alert. It was the middle of the night and everybody thought they were getting nuked in like five, four. And everybody was like, ah!

Yeah. And then nothing happened. That guy got fired. Yeah. Or they wanted it that way. Yeah. So what I heard was that even if your phone's off, it'll still go through. Hmm.

So hopefully everybody has fair day bags, you know, and they can just zip it up, right? Yeah. Probably not, though. So I guess your best bet is tomorrow afternoon. Take your vehicle. No cell phone, no, none of that stuff, no computer with you. Drive into the forest.

Get out of your vehicle. Walk a couple miles off trail into the woods. Call it looking for Bigfoot. And just wait it out. Off grid I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know

I really don't But it's We will all find out tomorrow How it all goes down Yeah And I have a feeling We're gonna wake up on Thursday And we'll talk

We'll live to talk about it I agree Wasn't there like Hopefully Supposed to be an end of the world event Like back in September 23rd Or something like that They were talking about

That has been The constant conspiracy for since like 2017. Yeah, 2012. Like, I remember in 2017, there were videos out on YouTube as like September 23rd, 2017, the end of the world. I think there's something to be said

about that though to desensitize the people on the mass level. You know, I really think that's the case because, I mean, that's what's happening with a lot of things right now. They're desensitizing us. Like, they can come out and be like, guys, meet Eddie.

He is the first alien entity we are letting you meet, shake hands with, broadcast that thing live, and most people are like, meh, who cares? And I think they desensitized everybody, and why are they desensitizing people?

You know, that's what, I mean, that's the question to be asked. Well, I mean, that's the question that people have with media. Like, when it comes to movies, video games, television, like, are they, do they show you things to desensitize you from, like, I mean, think about,

think about, like, all of the murders that you should, see on Twitter and all that stuff now, on X. You know, it's like, it's insane. Like, are people, like, people are videoing this stuff. People, you know, not just that. It's like the fights, you know, it could be even just aliens on, like, Independence Day of the movie and stuff like that.

What are we, like, are we being desensitized from that stuff? Maybe, you know, I don't know, because push hasn't come to shove yet. So, do you know what I'm thinking of? So, stay with me here. going to rock your world. So all of this, you know, you're saying desensitized and, you know, we're having this test where everyone is at this certain time, everyone's going to get the same alert at the same time. Well, if you look at, you know, biblical prophecies, when Jesus returns, every, everyone in the

whole world will see him. Right now we have the technology. Yeah. Boom. Everyone will see him. In your hand, you got it right. here, you'll get alert, hey, you know, something's going on, you know, and most people aren't going to believe it because they're desensitized, like what you're talking about.

Yeah, I totally could see that happening. And then the next step is post, wow, oh, rapture, there we go. I couldn't remember the word. Post rapture, the whole thing will be, oh, that was actually an alien invasion. And they just, abducted all these people. Let's go to Elon and get that chip now. I see people in the chat, they're saying, this is Y2K all over again. This one person said,

I'm old enough to remember Y2K. And that comment makes me old. That comment makes me feel old because I'm like, wait a second. Like, what do you mean? You're old enough? Of course you're old enough. I'm like, wait a second, there's a whole world of adults out there

that were born after Y2K. Yeah. I was like, oh, man. I was only five. Yeah, you were five? I remember I was in high school and I was like Countdown we're gonna die And I mean Jason

Shake his head at me He was already having grandkids at that point Yeah I was out of high school Five years out of high school Five years? Yeah Wasn't that bad Why 2K man

What a time to be alive I mean that that was the beginning of the weird You know like after that It was 9-11 And then it all just went downhill after that Yeah You know? Like, I mean, seriously, like, Y2K was like, you know, all right, guys, it's the turn of the century.

It's about to get really weird. You know, reality that you know it is no more welcome to the 2000s. And then it's like, it's like a roller coaster, you know, you're going. You're like, at the very time, you're like, we're here. Yeah. It's just like, it just dive. Oh, man. It's just deep dived.

It's funny because I think about Y2K in my head as like people just running around screaming, throwing computers and papers in the air. Things are on fire because it's like, it's nothing's going to work in a couple minutes. Yeah. I mean, like they don't know. That was actually the thing. They didn't. From what I remember, I mean, I think I was in 10th or 11th grade.

No, I was in ninth grade, I think. You know, from what I remember, the idea was like, I guess they said that the clocks, when they made the computers or something weren't designed to turn into the new century and it's going to reset everything and everything was just going to go back to the Stone Age. And we were like, oh man, the lights are going to

go out and, you know, it turns and nothing. That was probably a big sci-op. That was probably a big mass sci-up. Because there ain't no way that Bill Gates and all those smart guys, I don't know if he's that smart, but all these guys that are like the computer

tech people and that time, there's no way that they were like, I don't know, we're just going to have to see what happens. There's no way. There's no way that everything went smooth, right? As far as I remember, everything went smooth. Like, nothing changed, nothing bad happened. They didn't know that.

Come on. I don't know how it would have done that. Like, looking at technology now, it's like, how does that happen? I know. It was going forward one year, if you would have programmed whatever your software was to make sure that 2000 comes after 1999, nothing should have happened anyway. Yeah. Oh, man. I mean, I mean, computers are based on math essentially, right? Ones and zeros. I mean, it seems like the logical thing is they would know what number it comes next. Yeah, that's a good point. I never

thought of it being a giant sci-op. That's wild. Wow, that's what I'm here for, man. I just throw little zingers out there and go back to hibernation. I don't even think I was like coherent for most of that year, but now I'm like, you know, now I'm like, 2000 was a tie-up? You know what? Listen, right around that time, I can understand why you don't remember that night. Like, it, this is New Year's Eve, clocks are turning, we're at my uncle's house, and jacks upstairs light and fires on my uncle's wall. It was that night? No, it wasn't that night. It was, it was a new, it was New Year's Eve. It wasn't Y2K, but it was one, it was the, it was the, same night, just different year.

Yeah. You and you and our cousin, Sam, what were you guys doing? You lit my uncle's house on fire. Yeah, we did. Like, he literally, we said an actual fire. We're all downstairs, and all we hear is the kids upstairs. Ah, ah, ah, ah. And we're like, what the heck is that?

And they're like, fire, fire. Fire! That's what it was like. What were you guys doing? We were just, so granted, I was the young cousin in this scenario. innocent, naive, not knowing what was right and wrong at that point. And I had an older cousin telling me, let's light cue tips on fire in my aunt's candle that was lit in the bathroom

and put them inside of a toilet roll in the trash can. Lit. And it just caught the trash on fire very quickly. And we didn't even like, we couldn't get the fire out fast enough. It caught the curtains on fire. And it started to go up onto the same. ceiling. So we were very lucky. Yeah, you were.

It didn't get worse. They put it out fairly quick. Yeah. And who was up there and put it out? Do you remember? Uncle Pally and Karen, Aunt Ellen. Maybe dad. It might have been dead. Dad probably grabbed you and, hmm. No, I think I ran downstairs with the same. He blanked out. He blacked out. I actually remember that fairly well.

That was, that definitely had to be years later, a couple years later. still an innocent child. I was pretty prone to starting fires myself when we were younger, but I never started a fire in a house like that. I mean, come on, man. But you were young. The others were old enough. They should have known better.

But, uh, man, that kitty can jump. What's you doing? What's up, kitty? Kitty's on the table right now, just hanging out with us. She's on the hunt. Yeah, she's looking for the next meal. Well, it's over there. We get some cat food on the floor for her.

So, yeah, she's going to be introduced to her new home very soon. We're going to start bringing this in for landing because we're just kind of going all over the place. Wait, I have a question for you. Yeah, go ahead. We didn't ask you what your thoughts were on everything that we talked about in the interview and that you, you know, have witnessed now. Witnesses in what? Video evidence.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I thought it was fairly obvious that I'm down for that action, you know. I think it, I mean, from my uneducated perspective and understanding, I think it's legit. I think it's a legit video. And like I said before, I wouldn't, you know, cry over the fact that it's proven to be false. This is distracting. This is so distracting and adorable. Yeah, I think she might have a tick on her. But, I mean, I'm not going to cry about it if it's not real, you know. And here's the thing. Ashton's not trying to tell people that something is fake. He's not intentionally trying to lead people into believing this is real when it's fake kind of thing. Like Ashton is just taking the information he has, deep diving on it as best he can,

and has a team of people around him doing the same thing that have particular skills in certain fields. And they're doing the best they can. They present a very compelling argument, I think. And I thought it was worth bringing him on the show. that said, I lean heavily towards what Ashton is saying, you know, and I think he was able to share his opinion and his thoughts on the matter and what he's uncovered very eloquently, better than I could. I've been like, yeah, so there's these two videos and there's a plane in both videos.

And then you see these UFOs come around and then poof, there's a portal. and it just gets sucked into the portal. Essentially what I did for the trailer is how I would have described it and that's it. You know? Ashton comes in and he's like, well, here's the metadata and here's the pixels and I'm just like, bro.

Like that's like, yeah. He goes so deep on it. I have no arguments to it. I see what I see. And I'm inclined, listen, here's what I would say then. I'm inclined to believe it because of what I already come in with the preconceived notions of what I come in with, you know. I do believe portal

are real. I have talked to enough people who have had these experiences. I have a portal on camera, you know, like, Glenn, two now. One's a still, the first one I'm talking about is the still picture, but it's a, it's a picture of a portal in Kentucky, in the woods, brought, not broad daylight, it was dawn. Glenn was sitting in that chair right across from me. He took the picture of it. I mean, I don't know what else to make of it. You know, Glenn's not the most tech-savvy person in the world. In fact, I at all, you know, I mean, Jack, I mean, you and I went to Glenn's house. And for people who don't know, Glenn, the guy from Kentucky who came down, he was the musician, had all the wild stories, treasure hunting and all that stuff. Jack and I actually did go up to

his house. And we did go on a treasure hunt with him. We're going to be going back. But one thing's for sure. Glenn's not kidding. He finds tons of stuff. His house, it's just everywhere. I mean, tons of artifacts everywhere. So he's really telling the truth. If it wasn't for the cloudy overcast night, he was convinced we would have been seeing the UFOs that he sees every night when we were out there because we were up there late at night with him. And so my ears ringing, which means somebody's talking about me. There's 270 people. Somebody said my name just now.

But so anyways, he's checked out so much. We got to go to his house. We got to meet him in person. His lady friend. I think it's his girlfriend. I don't think it's his wife. But, you know, he's such an authentic human being. Everything that he's shared with us,

as far as I was able to tell, checks out. So why would I think that he's trying to hoax and he's actually some text savvy genius when it comes to this portal picture? If anybody doesn't know what the portal picture is, I believe we posted it on the website, I think. I don't know where I posted it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll have to post it maybe on the Instagram. I'll post it on the Instagram. If I haven't done it yet, I'll post it on the Instagram so people can check it out.

But basically it's a, it's, it's two pictures, same picture, two versions of it. It's one, the actual picture and one's zoomed in. And the zoomed in picture, you can actually see this green portal thing opening up. And there's trees in the foreground and trees in the background. Like it's in the trees. And when you see the zoomed out picture of it, he just snapped a picture of it. and then it was gone. We were lucky that he was able to get one picture of it.

And so I believe that, you know. I believe portals are real. We have Martin Groves in studio talking about his experiences in the LBL, which we're going to the LBL later this month to hunt Dogman. And while we're there and stuff, we're, hey, let's see if we find a portal. Who knows, right? So, I mean, I come into it with that preconceived idea that portals are real. things come in and out of this realm through portals.

I believe that human beings can do that. So when I see a plane going through a portal, the shock factor is, holy crap, that's a plane. You know, this isn't just a little bitty thing. This isn't, you know, human sizing. This is, you know, huge. Scared me.

A cat jumping all over the place. She's awake now. So, yeah, I mean, that's my thoughts on it. I think that portals are real. and therefore, you know, I'd be kind of silly to say, well, this isn't real, this can't be real. I've already stated how many times I think that portals are real and that it's very possible that these things could be happening. So, yeah, I mean, until somebody else proves it to be an absolute hoax, we already did that. Well, do it again.

Prove it to me. You got to talk to me like I'm in fifth grade, okay? You got to dumb it down for me. You can't be doing this debunk stuff that's all high-tech stuff. You got to simplify it for a fifth grader and then tell it to me. Do you can do that? We're good. Until then, it's real.

That's how I feel. I see people giving love and shout-outs to Martin Groves here in the chat. I can tell you guys, anybody who is aware Martin Groves has been pretty sick. The murky kitty. Ooh, I like that. You like that one? I do. But he has been pretty sick since, I think last month when he was in Texas at the conference.

I forget the name of the conference, top of my head. But he's been pretty sick. And he is on the mend. The doctors weren't sure what was going on. They still don't really have a diagnosis. The best they can think is that he has pneumonia. you. And so I just talked to Martin yesterday. He's still coughing, but he is on the mend. When he answered the phone, he's like, hey, buddy, how you doing? Coughing, but he was giving it. He has the spirit,

you know, and he still is just Martin. So we're still praying for him, and we believe he's going to pull through on this thing. There was a period of time where we weren't sure, he wasn't sure if he was going to make it. He was saying to his friends, he's like, I don't know if I'm, this, this might be, this might be it for old Bubba. But, yeah, we have, uh, there's a great comment here. What's that? A new name. Furkel. I'm over here talking about Martin Gross Health and he wants to talk about furkel. No. That's kind of cool, though. Yeah. That's good. That's good. I do kind of like that. Furkle. Anyways, uh, guys, listen, I appreciate you all tuning into, uh, this live. on YouTube.

Hopefully you guys just enjoyed hanging out with us. Before we get out of here, give us a thumbs up in the chat. If you think we should do this more often. If you think we should do it more often, I can't promise anything. Maybe we'll do it more often where, I don't know, Jack and Jason go live on YouTube. They're better at discussing these things than I am. I'm just here as a third wheel half the time, you know? but yeah, if you guys like this,

oh, it looks like the thumbs up are coming in. So cool, cool, cool. Yeah, I mean, maybe we'll start trying to do more live stuff on YouTube until YouTube says, get the freak off our platform.

And I'm like, okay, I'll just go to Rumble. Listen, Rumble is a pretty cool platform. You know, they've really got a lot better since they've come out. I encourage everybody that's listening to download the Rumble app, look up the Confessionals and subscribe to our channel.

We do have a channel on there. And I haven't checked it in a while, but every time I upload, it should be uploading to the YouTube, or the Rumble channel as well. So, you know, if we ever disappear off YouTube, just know,

go to Rumble. You know, we'll start rumbling. Is that when it's called Rumbling? If not, it should be called Rumbling. Let's get ready to Rumble. You know, so that's such a cool name, too. Like, you know, I see this one lady in here,

Ellen Jean, Abar, Ellen Jean. She's been on the Rumble thing in the chat like crazy tonight. Ellen's all about the Rumble, but she's doing it on YouTube. So she's a floater. Is she? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, you don't need to try to convert me, Ellen. I'm already a big fan of the Rumble. I'm here on YouTube because that's where everybody else is too. So until that changes, I'll be multitasking on that front. But everybody, thank you very much for tuning in to. this different show, you know, just conversation with the guys here in the studio and recapping some of the stuff that we talked about on the Tuesday show. And if you enjoyed it, please go ahead

and share it with your friends. That's the best thing you do to help the show grow. Share it with your friends, but until next time, friends, stay safe, take care, and remember the truth will set you free. But first, it'll piss you off. Bye. Bye. Oh yeah, AFK discussions. Check out AFK discussions. Right there. Podcast. Give them five-star rating and review. And then you hit play because that's what solid human beings do. You show the love and then you see if you actually like it or not.

That's right. That's right. So go ahead and do that. Jack, you guys think you want to promote before we get out of here? Hammer Lane Legends. Jack produces that show as well. My dad's show now. I am no longer on that show, but my dad has a co-host on that show.

Hammer Lane Legends and Jack and Jason and Slim are talking about doing a music podcast, right? You guys still talking about that? Yeah, so Merkle Media. Yeah.

Somebody speak. This is going to be a great podcast. Two of the three hosts aren't able to talk. Oh, it's okay, gotcha. Oh, wait a second. It's not recording on YouTube? Oh, his mind is not recording.

you guys. Yeah. Okay. This is really... It's great. This is really a great way to end a show. Riveting. Rivening conversation.

Yeah. Anyways, it's going to be a music podcast through Merkel Media. And so I'm excited about that. You guys are going to be here in studio talking music and things like that. So a little bit of a different pace than what we have done in the past. But that's what we're looking to do. We're looking to switch things up. Eventually, I would like to be able to...

We're doing the films. We're doing... We actually shot our first movie. and amongst the documentaries and the movies, I'd like to actually start creating the kids content and, you know, come out with a kid's cartoon that my kids like. That'd be really cool.

I think that's like a proud dad moment. I'd like to be able to come out with a kid's cartoon where my kids actually sit down and watch it because my kids, as soon as they know that it's daddy's show, they don't care. I could turn on something and they're like, oh, what's that? As soon as they find out it's me, they don't care. And so if I could come out of the kids' cartoon that they care about, that's a win in my book.

So we've got a lot of things that we're trying to do here over at Merkel Media. It's not just paranormal stuff. We want to branch into doing a bunch of different things, just helping to create cool content that you can share with the family. So with that said, we are officially out. AFK discussions out. The professionals out. Young Merck over there, he's out. We're all out.

Take care, guys. See you next week. Peace. That's what we're real doing.