The Confessionals - 597: Fort Polk Dogman

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

In Episode 597: Fort Polk Dogman, Gabriel shares his encounter with a mysterious creature while he was in the military in 2010. The encounter took place during a training mission in a remote area known as "The Box" inside Fort Polk, Louisiana. Gabriel and his sergeant were tasked with harassing a fake military base during the night, but Gabriel was left alone after his sergeant went back to retrieve a forgotten radio. As he waited alone in the woods, he described feeling a sudden eerie silence in the natural sounds, and he noticed strange occurrences, including a pulsating red light and a large, black shape behind a bush. As his fear intensified, he stood up with his machine gun, intending to fend off what he initially thought might be a bear. However, when he attempted to fire the weapon, a terrifying and powerful roar froze him in his tracks. The creature stood up on two legs and was much taller than him, with yellow, glowing eyes that felt malevolent and ancient. Gabriel felt an intense sense of evil emanating from the creature, leading him to believe it was not an ordinary animal but something far more sinister and supernatural. For years, he had believed it was a demon, and it was only later, in 2021, that he learned about the term "Dogman" as he attempted to make sense of his experience.The Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSGET UNCOMMON GOODS at 15% off: uncommongoods.com/tonyGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionalsfree Promo Code: "confessionalsfree" for FREE BREAKFAST FOR LIFE!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICVanTesla - ShutUp N DriveYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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When he came over to me Dude, he slithered over to me And this giant comes out of the cave And they're all frozen And he starts running and firing at this giant With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face, they basically decapitated.

Feel something pulling at my leg, and I look over, and there are two, and they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air. Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you've a crazy, wild experience, you want to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. That's contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section, and you can reach you that way as well. Other way works from me, just get a hold of me. And if you get a hold of me, maybe your story will be featured on a film through Merkle.

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through WhatsApp because he's in Peru. So this is the first time I ever did an interview on WhatsApp. I think it turned out pretty good, given the circumstances. He's in Peru, but he served in the United States military. And while he was stationed at Fort Polk in Louisiana, he had a dogman encounter one night while training. He comes on to talk about that today. But it's very interesting how this dogman creature is popping up on military bases. We actually did an episode 475. No, I believe it was 575, where we had a soldier come on the show and talk about his experience on Fort Campbell and how he wasn't the only one that went through this. Many soldiers on Fort Campbell have interacted with Dogman to the point that they call it out over the radio. Well, it turns out

Fort Polk might be a similar situation because Gabriel comes on today to talk about his situation while training one night and encountering the dog man. So let's get to Gabriel and his experience right now. All right, today we got Gabriel on the show. Gabriel, how you doing, man? Pretty good, brother. Kind of cold over here, but pretty chill. Hey, man. It's cold everywhere right now for us.

I'm in Tennessee, and it's supposed to, you know, the further south you go, the warmer it is. But the last few days, we've been getting sub-30-degree weather. So it's been a chilly for me, too. Oh, yeah, yeah. Kind of for a change of weather, so, okay. Right. So, listen, you are in Peru right now.

now, and you have had a pretty interesting encounter when it comes to Dogman. You had it while you were in the military here, stateside. You have dual citizenship. Where did this encounter happen and what year did it happen in? It happened in 2010. I was a brand new private out of four knox. My MOS was 19 Delta, was a cop scout. Then I went to four Bennings to become a voter trooper.

So it was a brand new private. It was my first year in the military. And it happened in July 2010. I remember that because it happened a couple of weeks after, you know, the whole four July celebrations that we had. So I do remember exactly the month. Plus, it was pretty freaking hot. Louisiana, I guess, pretty freaking had, I live in South Florida.

But the only difference is in Louisiana, you're surrounded by woods and mosquitoes and snakes and whole, which is shit. Yeah, it's a whole different thing. But I don't remember. It happened in July 2010. Wow. Okay. So let's do this. Let's move into the encounter.

What you were doing, if you guys were doing running drills or you were on leave, just walking. just walk us into this experience that you had with this creature? Well, first of all, I want to say that for 11 years, I thought it was a demon because I never ever heard the termed dogmae until 2021. This isn't happened while doing missions inside. For example, inside Fort Polk, there is a massive area that we call. call the box. Now, just to, you know, disclaimer, what I'm out to say is not belating any sort of department of defense, you know, panels is because you can literally Google it and you're

going to find it. But yeah, inside for a poll, there is this massive area that we call the box. It's for training purposes. There is like for rotations, we jump out of airplanes, there's firefights, it's a pretty active area. And that's where the whole encounter happened. And in this specific night, my platoon had the task and purpose to go and harass specific. Because, I'm sorry, inside the box, there is fake civilian towns.

There is fake military bases. But when there is some sort of rotation, you know, Americans, we call it the Americans or Blue Force, they go in and they, you know, take over these military bases and also there's civilians that we hire to play as, you know, Afghan civilians because at a time the Afghani rotation was an all-time high.

So for this specific mission, the main idea was to harass this fake military base that was located northeast in the box and the idea was to mess up with their sleep because the next day is supposed to be a massive operation in which we're supposed to go and overrun the Bay Area and pretty much try to kill everybody inside you know for training purposes

for example the task and purpose from my platoon was to go do that, harass this military base throughout the night, one in the morning, three in the morning, five in the morning, pretty much just messed up with their sleep. And I wasn't the first team. I was attached to a sergeant. At the time, I was a PFC, was a private first class, and I got a sergeant who was an E5. and the main idea was to approach the base from the south. We used to drive these beat-up trucks.

And the main idea was to go from the south, park the vehicle in the very concealed area, and then we dismount and then we walk. At the time, my sergeant was carrying an infrared carbon. And I was covering a 240 brawl machine gun. And if you are brand new in the military, it's a pretty heavy weapon. Eventually, you get used to it, but as a brand new private, I was literally just hating it. Plus, I was carrying like between 100 and 150 rounds or 762 rounds.

Now, one of the things that I want to make it clear is that inside the box, we never use lab ammunition. We use blanks for training purposes, plus, you know, for safety issues. But they're still heavy. They're still heavy. So I do remember we part of the vehicle, we dismount, we started walking. And there was not a pretty,

beautiful air to walk through. There was a lot of bushes and holes, and I remember I twisted my ankle like three or four times. A machine was getting stuck in every brush, any bush and branch that you can find. It was not a pleasant situation. And I think it was within maybe 15 minutes into the mission that's when my sergeant

stop and say, fuck, I forgot my radio. And if you forgot your radio, you lose contact with your chain of command. It's as worse or the same as, you know, forgetting your weapon system. So he was freaking out that we have to go back and get the radio.

But like I said, my ankles were hurting. I was just like, nope, I ended up doing that. So my main idea was to say, sergeant, I can wait for you here and you can, you know, go get the radio. And he kind of like agree with me in a sense like, yeah, you were tripping all over the plates, you were making a whole bunch of noise, yada yada, just wait for me here. Just lay in the prom position and I'll be back. Now, when he say lay in the prom position, I want you to understand an analyst.

an analog clock. So you have the 12 o'clock, you have the 6 o'clock. So 12 o'clock is in front of me. Six o'clock is behind me. My 9 o'clock is to my left. My 2 o'clock is to my right. That's important because all the events that happen during the encounter are related to the sort of vacation,

the sort of locations that I was able to pinpoint where things were coming from. So anyway, I remember I did like 360-degree area, you know, a spot to find a spot where I can lay down. And one of the main things for me was to

hopefully not to lay on top of, you know, a fire on the heel because they're pretty freaking nasty. They can literally mess you up the whole freaking day. So luckily, my final spot, I wasn't able to sweat. But like I say, it was around 1.30 in the morning. As insurgents, we were not able to have nightingles. I don't remember what kind of moon we had, but there was some basic illumination coming from the sky.

We have the canopy of the trees. So it was pretty goddamn dark. I got to be honest, I wasn't able to see anything. but when you walk in the middle of the woods by yourself, in the middle of the night, your eyes get adjusted to the darkness. But I do remember there was some sort of light coming from the sky, so I don't remember what kind of moon we had.

But anyway, I lay in the prone position, and eventually I could hear my shard and walking away. Until at one point I wasn't here, I wasn't able to hear no more. and I'm a city guy. And being in the middle of the woods by myself, in the middle of nowhere, it was one of the creepiest Elaine's cyber hat.

And I got to pull something clear. You know, at the time was a full-blown atheist. I didn't believe in anything. So if you want to talk about religion, I will be the type of person that will literally mock you. If you want to talk about paranormal things or ghosts or everything, I will be the type of person that will debunkett or keep making fun of it. So in a way, I kept saying in my head, you know, hey, relax.

There's nothing going on. Just chill. But I do remember being in the middle, it was by myself. It was one of the creepiest moments that I ever had. Now that this is when everything started happening. as a city guy, I was not able to understand what was going on, but

it's like you flip a switch and all the crickets and all the frogs and cicadas and everything that is all over the woods went absolutely quiet. And I was already freaking out by being in the middle of the woods by myself. So now my level of fear

went up and fall. what the hell is going on because it was literally you just flip a switch it was nothing gradual it was like like like i say i was still atheist i was still trying to you know rationalize it maybe as the americans there was the blue force maybe there's somewhere in the woodline look at them but i kept looking in the whole area i wasn't able to see anything i wasn't able to hear anything at all and we were I think almost like over two days

straightforward with barely any sleep and the creepy thing is like when you're asleep deprived and you're in the woods your eyes play tricks on you and do remember seeing shadows you know left and right you know foot steps

but it's just your brain you know messing with your head head. But still, I was not able to see, actually what I was expecting to see, a platoon of soldiers coming from that area that were supposed to go in attack. And I was really like, my inside level kept going up and up and up. And now this is when the other weird thing happened. I don't know if it's related to my experience, but I want to say it because it happened within, you know, the timeline to my 10 o'clock,

almost like 100 yards away, which is kind of like 300 feet away. I noticed a red light. I wasn't able to see the actual source, but it was very low to the ground, and it was pulsating. Now, in the military, we have flashlights, we have headlamps,

and most of the, you know, the sort of systems have, this type of settings. You had the low beam, you had the high beam, you had the stroke. But the thing was pulsating.

When I was unable to notice it in the corner of my eyes, it was very dim and they got very bright. They got pinned again, got really bright, and it just disappeared. But again, I was trying to explain it away. It's just, you know, maybe special forces guys, making a mistake, you know, turning a flashlight on something.

But I wasn't able to hear anything or see anything. And that's when I hear something to my seven o'clock. And when I kind of turn, I noticed this little bush than I noticed it before. But there was something very black that was behind it and it was protruding from the right side of it. it was pitch black and it looked like a boulder something that I don't know

I don't remember seeing that because before my sergeant left I did a 260 degrees of my environment to see you know where I can lay down and find a concealed area or with some cover

but I didn't remember seeing that boulder and I kind of freaked out again trying to relationalize. Maybe the Americans, maybe I don't know, Navy SEALs, snuck up on me or something.

I was a brand new private. I was not able to understand how tactics work. So I kind of freaked out. I was laying in a problem position, like I said, pointed to my 12 o'clock. Now, if you're looking at a picture of the 240 Bravo, at the bottom of the barrel, it's like a handle.

Okay, so what I did is, I grabbed the handle with my right hand. I got in my right knee. I got the bumpstock with my right hand, and I kind of twist my whole body towards that direction. Because I'm thinking, well, this is the Americans. I'm not going to go down without a fight. So when I switch to that direction,

that's when the thing got in four legs. Now, I don't know if Docton has the capacity to self-inominated eyes or his eyes close because while it was racing in four legs, maybe like one third of the way, that's when the eyes lit up. It's like a flashlight, which is one of the most insane things that you can see. and it was keep racing it was racing it was racing until we were almost too high to eye level

I got the two foot to bravo like I said on my riny but I was not crunching over it I was just putting in the ground you know to face what I thought was my enemy and at one point this thing got it over this little

little brush and we were almost eye to eye level. And the thing was literally over four and a half or five feet tall when you got in four legs. And then my brain got into just like this Windows B-sta mode, like

I was not able to process anything. But at one point I was like, what am I looking at? It is a bear? Now, before you go into any military base, You get a lot of briefings about, you know, we're supposed to get your uniforms, locations, things that matter to you. And one of the briefings in Fort Polk is related to the wildlife that happened in Louisiana,

because you're in the middle of the woods. And the main thing is with wildlife. They talk about, you know, brown reclusive, it's a pretty nasty spider. a couple of snakes, wildhawks, but they also talk about black bears. Black bears are not observed like too often inside the box because it's a pretty loud area

and animals usually just stay away from that sort of trauma. But I know for a fact that there is black bears Louisiana. So at one point I was looking at this thing And my brain was trying to think, is this a black bear? Because I never seen a black bear face-to-face,

especially at night. And also, I never seen those like yellow, amber eyes that were like, once you see those eyes, you never forget about it, brother. You never forget about those eyes. And the main thing is you can able to see the pupils. It's like, I don't know, like, they have some sort of power source behind the eyes.

I don't want to say power source, but that's what it felt because the pupils were really noticeable. And when I was looking at that, what I thought was a bear, I was like them freaking out at one point. And I do remember one guy has some sort of encounter with a bear or somewhere, I think it was in Mississippi.

and he said if you encounter mostly black bear try to get yourself bigger and louder and hopefully this animal would just run away unless it's hungry or is a mob with cops

in that kind of case your litter is crude but I do remember that that this guy was saying you know try to make yourself bigger and louder. And like I say, I have a machine gun,

a 240 brown machine gun. You can Google out. It's a massive weapon. But it's filled with blanks. And the only thing in my pocket was a four-inch blade. So now going back to

what a lot of people repeat in the military is the fight-of-flight type of situations. I knew for a fact that I would not have to flight. I was not able to

I will run a bird. So my only option was to hopefully, you know, get into feet, put it to 40 bravo, kind of to my right side, kind of rumble style, and just have blast

in the whole area. Because it's a pretty loud weapon. We're talking about a 7 and 6-2 caliber. It's a full, you know, full armada by Schingham. You know? So that's what I thought. I want to stand up, get in two feet,

pull the two foot of brow to my right side, and I kind of let our initial stay here. We'll start blasting the whole area in the hopes that this animal would just go away. But that's not why it happened. When I was able to stand up, I got the two foot of bravo to my right side. I do remember putting my finger in the right side of the weapon

to switch from safety fire and start blasting the whole area. And that's want to hear one of the most insane sounds ever. Imagine a lion's roar multiply by 10, the base of it, drop is so freaking low that it's going to vibrate every internal or organ

inside your body. That's what I felt. I just don't know if they do it on purpose to freeze their prey because I was completely frozen. I don't know who's based on fear which is the way they do it, but I was completely frozen.

To the point I said, my finger was literally just right next to the lever to switch from safe to fire. But I was frozen. The only thing I do remember is feeling my legs that were getting very, very weak, like I was about to pass that. I don't remember feeling my heart or anything else. It's just my legs that I was, you know, was about to pass that up. And that's when the thing stood up.

And when it did that, it was very, very smooth. I didn't hear me popping sounds, nothing like that. It was very smooth. It's like it didn't have any sort of trouble just getting into legs. It was very slow, very methodical, and it was staring at me, staring at my eyes, staring at my eyes. And when it was done, standing up in two legs, it was six feet tall. And this thing was way over eight feet tall. And at one point, through the illumination that happened in the moon that happened in the background,

I was able to see, you know, from shoulder to shoulder, the thing was just massive. And that's when I was able to see the horns. Well, at a time, I thought, horns, but in other words, the eyes, the ears, there were very pointed ears. I was not able to notice a little bit of the wet nose. but the main thing is like why don't you see those eyes brother you never forget them those yellow amber eyes

and there's three main things that I got after seeing those eyes first of all there was something that was very nefarious it was not friendly it was evil that's why for 11 years

as though it was a demon and the intelligence. Like, this thing can literally look through you. And I don't know, it started you from head to toe. And the last thing is like, what I was seeing is something that is ancient. That is being around for a very, a very long time. I really don't know what they are,

but I can tell you one thing. were now dealing with an animal. And I think the main thing that got me was just the evil that I felt in those eyes. And that's when I noticed I I peed my pants. I start feeling this war sensation coming down my legs. And I don't know if it's made out of fear

which is, I was just confused about the whole situation. But yeah, I'm paying my pants. And when I pin my pants, they think they disliked twice, like that was male. And then that's when I was able to see the full set of teeth. Now, when I saw the full set of teeth, I was expecting to hear some sort of like a growl or snarl or something. But I didn't hear anything. But throughout these years and all the interviews I was able to hear from other people. and how nasty these things can be.

I'm 100% sure that this sucker was laughing at me. He smelled that I pay my pants, and he was just loving it. He smiled that I pee my pants. That's when it looks to its right, and when it did that, that's when I was able to see this snout, this sort of came out. It was very known.

noticeable, but I was able to see it. It was not like a long face, you know, like all the animals have. It was very slow the way it looked to his right. And when it did that, I'll see this thing that what lions have, this big ass hair around their neck. But it was not that big, but you can tell that there was something that was very hairy around their neck. And again, my brain was still going in, you know, Windows Vista. I was not able to understand what the hells was done.

then he looked back at me it was very slow the problem is like if you see how slow it turned how slow it looked back on me it was doing one of the things that also was they were going to forget he looked back at me

a smile again and that's when he switched his body towards his left now when when it move his body towards his left it was not just like you know I'm going to look left

and then my whole body No, it looked like something we do in the military. It looked like he did on a left face. It's something that you turn and you're on the ball, your feet, and your entire body moves towards one direction, one single time. This thing was behind this bush, so I'm not able to see from the waist down. But from the upper body and the head, it was just one single motion that he turned towards.

you know, towards the left. And when it did that, I was like, please just go. Please just go away. And that's when it crouched down a little bit. And I was expecting to see this thing go up four legs. And that's when it did the other amazing thing. You jump in there maybe

10, 15 feet up in the air and he landed over 20, 25 feet towards the left. And you can tell this thing was heavy, but it was very tactical. So when it landed, it was not like a massive sound that you can hear like a boom, you know?

It landed, but you can hear that this thing had a mass, but it was able to continue running in one single movement. It's like, I explain somebody like, you know, when somebody said, you know, I hear the floor running. That's what it did. It jumped. And when it landed, it was just one single movement in continuing running.

And this thing was heavy. You can tell it was very, very heavy because she was moving through the woods. Like it was just didn't care about anything. Time for this episode's sponsor, which is Hello Fresh. Hello Fresh offers farm fresh pre-portioned ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered to your doorstep, eliminating the need for trips to the grocery store and making home cooking easy, enjoyable, and budget-friendly, which is why it's the leading meal kit in America. The holiday season, the most wonderful time of the year, becomes even more delightful with Hello Fresh.

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at a time I didn't know what that was but you know throughout this time hearing different stories and understanding how strong these things can be I'm 99% sure

that the thing was literally just going in that direction there was a tree in front of him he just pushed it out of the way because it was a tree that was falling it was not a small tree it was very heavy you can hear like the whole thing like boom

And that's what I think happened. The thing was just running in that direction was this little tree and just push it out of the way like it was nothing. That's when I hear something towards my left. I'm sorry, let me back up a little bit. After that happened, I remember I started looking at the ground in front of me

and they started shaking my head because I wanted to wake myself up. I really thought it was just a sort of dream or something. I was shaking my head, like left or right, but nothing was happening. But the thing is just everything around me felt kind of weird for like a dream. I wish I was able to give you a detail to explain to how you felt, but I literally felt like I was a sort of dream. And I remember looking at the ground and started shaking my head left and right.

I wanted to wake myself up. And that's when I hear something to my left. And when I heard something to my left, my entire body freaked out and I moved, switch my whole body, pointing my weapon towards that direction. Because I didn't know what I was, you know, expecting. But I was still in the kind of sense of just very, very scared, very terrified of what I saw. And eventually I was able to see a shadow. Then I was able to see a shape. and then I realized it was my sergeant.

But I was still kind of, I was still kind of like in a frozen situation. And when it comes to muscle discipline, you know, you don't point your weapon at nobody. And it was literally just frozen, pointing this, you know, machine gun on my sergeant. And he was, well, he was approaching me. He was like, kind of like whispering, cursing,

like, like, how I'm doing your private pieces, you know? And when he got close enough, he actually slapped the barrel away from him. He was still cursing me. And me, my broken English, as a sergeant, I think I saw a bear in the run. And he was like, you need to get your shit together. It was probably a horse. We're going to go. And when he said the word horse, I was like, wait a minute, yeah, there is a briefings that we had in Fort Paul.

There is a little wild horses in Louisiana. Horses are big. They can stand them two legs. They can jump. They can run. So it was kind of like a moment of clarity thinking, oh, my God, it was just a horse, the thing that I saw. I was just kind of terrified for the whole thing about being by myself in the middle. woods, the woods

went quiet and, you know, the whole situation that I probably thought that I saw a demon. But it literally in the back of my head went like, no, it was a horse. I'm 100%. And he said, you know, I hear it. So he

hears the thing moving. Because like I say, it was very loud, but it was tactical in a way. So I know he hear it. And I was like, holy crap, it was just a horse. It was just a horse and he was kind of freaking out. First of all, you know, he found this dumb private flagging him with this 240 brawl machine.

And I'm pretty sure he was getting his ass chewed up because he forgot his radio by my platoon sergeant. So he was like, we got to go. We're kind of late. So that's what we did. You know, we went to finish the mission. We went back to the truck. then we actually end up meeting to our rally point where Harpal 2 was

and I remember he made a complaint about this stupid private and he was flagging me and you know he made me do like 30 pushes or something but he was getting his ass chewed up because he forgot his ready to but

at that time like I said my brain was going back to I just saw a horse four days later I was able to go back to the barracks They gave me like a three days, I'm sorry, three hours just to go and eat something like a hot child because when you're in the field, the only fee you eat is memories. So, you know, went to a room, got a Coca-Cola and gas and stuff.

But back in 2010, Facebook was an all-time high. So one of the main things that I did was just lugging my computer and trying to see, you know, what my friends were doing. and everything like that. And I'm going to say in you, I got a wallpaper that is pretty cool. You can see this horses, wild horses running in the drops of Fort Polk,

and you can see the paratroopers, you know, landing from the top. And when I turned a computer on, I remember watching the wall screen. And that's when a thing that I remember, you know, the horses got this long, that don't have this snout that I know what I saw. And I got in kind of like this kind of like freaky moment,

like what the hell did I look? What the hell did, you know, was the thing that I watched that night. And I started looking at pictures of, you know, horses and I shine in the way they move. And there was nothing, absolutely nothing close to what I thought. I moved on it. So I went back to the home, maybe it was just sort of like a demon. And it was something that was scared me for a while because as an atheist, you know, I'm kind of familiar with, you know, the way people talk when it comes to, you know,

demon possessions and stuff because, you know, you want to debunk. You want to explain things away. And by the time, my brain was already 180 degrees changed. So the main thing for me was like expecting to see shadows in my room getting scratched but nothing happened the only thing that was

it was very constant was like a nightmare that I had from like a week and a half I was running through the woods it was something chasing me and when I looked back there was nothing and then I hear like a hand and it won't push me so hard that my face

will hit the ground and that's when it will wake up. But other than that, I never, you know, I never see any sort of shadow. I never had

his sort of scratch or anything. So for a while, I started to thinking that maybe there was something that was localized, that maybe I was very close to a Native America

bearing ground or something. To the point, I actually asked to one of the sergeants, you know, a sergeant, you know, and this sort of the boss, you know,

this is sort of like a Native American or a ground or something. He explained to me that no, that cannot be the case. Because if that was the case, the whole area will be off limits. We're not able to have been close near that area for, you know, because it's a secret area. And there's a lot of regulations

when it comes to approaching things that are Native Americans in that kind of room. And he kind of like jokingly, he said, which and it was like what the hell is a fox witch and I realized that it's a lure inside for about these apparently these women that before the army decided to take over this land decided to you know move this a whole bunch of people away from the area to you know to make the base and there's this lady that decided no she didn't want to move and she assigned you know she committed

suicide. And, you know, that's one of the lords that happening in Fort Paul, you know, that these women, you know, is dressed in white, you know, the classic thing and then just goes around scaring soldiers for a while. I met somebody that he saw up and down, that he saw her. But it is a lore. But the thing was, he was kind of like making fun of me, oh, you saw the box with, yada, yada, he just walked away.

And after now, I never told anything to anybody. Because one of the main things, when you're in the army, you don't want to say, hey, I'm seeing ghosts, I'm seeing demons. Because, you know, you came to, you know, send into a different area or you're going to be that guy, the nobody's going to trust you. So I just stay quiet. I've lived the army in 2014. And then I didn't know what it was until 20.

in turn of 1 when I saw this show called This Was Our Hunt It And it was in season two, episode one, and with these two brothers and a friend that were fishing in Texas and they saw the thing, you know? And that's the first time that I heard the termed Dogman. And after that, I being

just literally obsessed with it. I have three tattoos with, you know, one is the wolf, then I have anubis in a couple other areas, but I don't think it's a newbies, but I'm just completely fascinated by the thing. Like, to the point that I want to see it again, there is this guy that I know in Florida. He lives in Okala, and he explained to me that there is, you know, this family member that he sees, you know, document once in a while. There's no harassment. There's no, you know,

He doesn't attack the chickens or anything. He just showed up. And he just sit there and, you know, by the edge of the woods and just look at them. But you can tell this thing, the lady says, this thing is just massive. It's like a wolf three times bigger. And next year, hopefully we can go back and I can go back to Florida and probably just go and look them up. because there is not a single day that I don't think about this,

not a single day, brother. And that's my story, man. I was a full-blown atheist, born in Peru, and my life got switched to 180 degrees from that encounter in 2010, and wait for 11 years, so it was a demon,

until I came across a turned dogman. 2021. That's wild, man. That's really wild. So the fact that you had this encounter and you thought it was a demon for so long, it turns you away from being an atheist. How are you now? I mean, do you think that this is still like a demon dog type of entity or do you think

it's much more physical? No, brother. No, I mean, for example, for 11 years. years, the whole thing switched me towards being very open-minded towards the paranormal. Because here's the thing, when you're an atheist, you

live in this little bubble. For example, all the people that believe in religion, they're crazy. The people that have paranormal experiences that are also, you know, kind of crazy. And you have, you create this sort of ego in where you pretend that you're part of this special group

that you know the truth. So seeing what I saw that, I opened my mind to the possibility of things. You know, maybe there are things out there that we don't know. But at that time, I thought it was a demon. So I was really upset with the whole concept of ghosts and the paranormal and demons. But I never ever heard how the document until 2021. And now throughout these years of, you know, doing my basic investigation stuff,

I realized that there is not something demonic, but it is definitely. not an animal. It's definitely not an animal. I just don't know what it is, but it's definitely not an animal brother. So it's almost like in your mind it's its own creature. It's its own creature. It's not an animal. It's not a demon. It's its own thing. I wish I knew, you know, how can I actually gain to the details of it? But I think it kind of goes to the same concept with Bigfoot. like Bigfoot I mean

for me I never believed in Bigfoot before that and then I started thinking that maybe is just an unclassified

type of primate but here's the thing you know when it comes to Bigfoot at least we have archaeological you know

things that you know the giant pedicus and it comes with Docman there's nothing like that

there is not a canon that can walk on two legs and and do the things they do and

I mean I I hear some crazy stories about people talk about mindspeak or things like that. I didn't hear that. I never, you know, experienced any thought of that. But I'm pretty sure that there's something, something else. I just don't know what it is, brother. But we're not dealing with an animal.

I'm 100% sure. It's the same with Bigfoot. We're not dealing with a classified gorilla. We're there with something else. What do you think about the idea of it being some kind of, kind of interdimensional creature that manifests here in this realm? Well, at the point we're just right now, we're dealing with conclusions. We don't have any sort of physical evidence.

I think the only way we can probably not close the case, but kind of have an answer is you can get like a body and try to study it. But I just don't know what it is, brother. But I remember what I saw in those eyes, it was something very ancient. The thing is not just like a, you know, like a, I don't know, like some sort of canine escape out of, you know, out of some sort of nuclear facility. No, no.

This is something very, very ancient. It's being with us for a very, very long time. I just don't know what it is. So you think that we can kill it? No. Not at all. I definitely, no. I don't think we can kill it.

There's something, there's something else about him, brother. I just don't know. I wish I can explain it, but we're not dating with an animal. It's definitely not an animal. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's not an animal, not a demon. I just don't know. But it's something more complex about those two,

including, you know, big, probably to, but dogmen is more nefarious. There is something very nasty about him, very, very nasty. Have you talked to people within the military about this experience you've had? the only time that I talk about when asking about the whole Native American bearing ground

and that's it but I never actually brought that shit up again because you don't want to be that guy talking about you know demons and stuff so I just keep it quiet for 11 years when they were talking to nobody

yeah I understand and so on that note then I'm assuming you've never heard of anybody else encountering this creature or whatever it is at Fort Polo Yeah, no, the only thing I hear is about the box witch, you know, this sort of

lady that hands the woods, but I mean, I'm pretty sure there's somebody that saw it, but they don't talk about it. The only thing I remember hearing is about this guy. He has his brother. He lives

in Louisiana, okay? And they, you know, inside his house, he has this like massive, like, how do you call like when you lock doors like middle

middle type of locks that you lock the doors from the inside out but he had it's from the inside out so he doesn't have the things outside and then the main thing that I remember is about when you know

this person was talking about you know these two guys that were like these two brothers they two brothers had an encounter one of the brothers left this rural area and he went to live to Alexandria. And the other guy left because, you know, he was kind of like for, I guess, financial issues

who wasn't able to leave that place. But he actually was explaining about this experience that he had when he was, I'm sorry, he was hunting. And he saw this massive dog just tearing at him. And he didn't pay attention to the dog, but I guess the thing followed him to the point that one night he was sleeping.

and then he was hearing like tapping noises in the window. When he woke up, he saw his right eyes in the windows. And when the thing was able to notice that, the thing was, you know, being observed, it tapped it one more time, but it was so hard, he actually cracked the whole window and just disappear. And this person doesn't go out at a night alone. And they showed me some pictures of this guy, you know, when he was growing up. he was the sort of type of hunter you know we see a type of guy hunting

you know deer you know cocoon you know coon hunting whatever but now he hasn't gone at all so I as far as I know I know

probably there's people that saw it but they just don't talk about it yeah that makes sense I mean I know a lot of people have these experiences and they don't want to talk about it I've talked to enough people you know that are finally talking after years of you know

the experience even you I mean you had the experience in 2010 and you're just now starting to talk about it. So there's definitely the possibility, the likelihood that other people have had the encounter as well. Have you ever heard of Fort Campbell in Kentucky and Tennessee? No. No, no, I hear about those bases, but I'm never hearing just sort of like a encounter. The only thing I hear about, I think it was Fort Campbell was like a big foot. but it was kind of like a sort of like a you know somebody was talking some

some drunken you know night that yeah somebody saw like this big as a gorilla in Fort Campbell but literally going to details something like you know explained probably was big foot I don't know no because you don't talk about that kind of thing in the military it's kind of like you don't want to go you know you don't want to be that guy you know no I can understand that I think the culture is different on Fort Campbell to be honest with you because apparently, so I had a soldier on, I think it was a member's episode. It was, I called it the siege of Fort Campbell, dog man siege of Fort Campbell. I think it's a 575 is the episode.

I think it's a member show. And I had a soldier come on and he told me about his interactions with this creature on Fort Campbell. And then he relayed another story. And with his story, I mean, like the word dog, was called out over the radio. It was something that it was talked about amongst the soldiers. They train on the back 40. It's like 40 acre property that they train on.

I think it's 40 acres. They call it the back 40. And that's where these experiences are coming in from. And he even relayed a story of how there was, he wasn't present for this as far as the location, but it came in over the radio as it was happening. and essentially there's this interaction with this creature and one of the soldiers wound up getting pulled into the bushes and they had to pull the guy back

and he was injured from the he was injured from the experience and he heard it happen and unfold over the radio and what was interesting about this whole thing is that I'm talking to this one guy and I'm not even going to say his name because I know on video he wanted his Facebook blurt out. So I'm pretty sure we didn't use his real name. And I don't remember what the fake name was. But in the, I was in a chat thread with him and three other soldiers from Fort Campbell. And all four

soldiers were, had involvement that night during that experience. And they all had their own perspectives and vantage points. And one of the soldiers in the chat thread that I was in was the guy who was involved in pulling the soldier back to safety from this creature pulling them in, of the four soldiers in this chat thread, only one was willing to talk to me on air live. So it kind of goes into your claim that it's like, this is something we don't really want to talk about. On Fort Campbell, though, from what I understand and have been told through this guy, this is something that's such a common occurrence that,

it really seems like they don't have a choice but to talk about it. It happens often. And this area, I mean, Fort Campbell isn't far from a place called land between the lakes. It's shortened to be LBL, which has tons of dogman activity. There's a family that was massacred by one of these creatures supposedly, a long time ago. But, yeah, these creatures are definitely out there. And it's interesting that you say, that it's not an animal, it's not a demon, because there's, in most circles, it's hard,

people are either going to qualify it as a physical animal or a spiritual demon type creature. You say it's not either one of those. Do you, it sounds like you have, go ahead. What I say for saying, what I saw in a night was something very physical. It was heaviest. When it landed and the whole thing, you can tell the thing was just literally moving. It was not just like a shadow. And also, what I saw through those eyes was something very, very nasty. So the things have something against humanity. I don't know what it is, but I do know that's not just, you know, classified with, you know, a demon, you know, try to possess my soul or something. But it was, it was very physical. When he jumped, when it landed,

it was very physical, brother. So I don't know if, Like I said, you know, probably they have some sort of ability to switch from one dimension to another. I just don't know. I don't understand how that works. But it was very physical. The way it landed and the way it run, it was very, very heavy. Well, let me tell you how the switching from dimension to dimension works. I totally understand it.

Now, I'm just kidding. I don't understand it at all. But that's kind of the direction I was going with it, because I know you said it was very physical, but you don't believe it's an animal and you don't believe it's a demon, which is interesting because I have been exploring this very idea for quite a while now that these beings, these creatures, whatever they are, are interdimensional. I do believe that.

I don't believe all of them are. Like the ones that I think, because I do believe that humans are creating these things as well through alchemical means. But I think that these creatures, like say the one you saw, maybe I believe that these things can be interdimensional. And what does that even mean? Like, what are they? You know, we can go into the idea of going back to,

you mentioned ancient times and the, how old these things are. Could they be a remnant of like biblical times of the Nephilim? I don't know. Yeah, no, there's one thing that I can be, honest about it. Like, I knew what I saw in those eyes, it was something that was very, very ancient. It's not just like an animal that's escape for a nuclear facility. It's something very, very ancient because what I saw in those eyes was just, it was wisdom. It was not just the ebleness. It was just

wisdom. The things have been around for a very, very long time. Yeah. And that's, the fact that you say that and you got that vibe from this encounter really plays into a lot of different things. I'm working on some things and I think that when I release certain stories

it might play into what you're saying a lot. Basically interdimensionalism, nephalimism, Nephalum, accessing other realms, creating creatures. It's very

it's a very interesting and complex road to go down. And I don't say, I don't think I have the answers. I don't think many people do, if any, have answers. But I think one of the best things we do as human beings that are encountering weird things is we talk about it. The more we talk about it, the more we're going to be able to draw conclusions and further our thought processes. and people, I have people who have said in the past, like, you know, we're mouth to mouth, you know, people sharing their experiences are the most unreliable ways to understand topics. And I just don't agree with that at all, especially when it comes to the mysterious side of things, these creatures, hauntings, UFOs, aliens, all that stuff.

Like, it's the people's experience that gets the conversation going to begin with. And I can understand, like, you can try diving into, the theoretical realm of, you know, trying to understand things scientifically and all that stuff. But your science and your understanding through science begins at somebody's encounter story with these things. And I think we can really gain knowledge and understanding through having people share their experiences. And people's experiences aren't the same from one to another. And I think that's one of the biggest things that historically people get caught up on, especially as, you know, podcast hosts, you know, it's very easy as a podcast host to try to get

boxed into one line of thinking and say, it could be because you're trying to solve the mystery of whatever you're looking into. It's very important, I think, for, for us podcasters that dive into these things to just allow people's experiences to unfold on, on your show, uh, organically and not always try to connect it to what you've heard before that made sense to you before because these things are very mysterious for a reason. It's a mystery. And we need to let the details unfold because that's why I come to the conclusion that there's a lot of properties that these things hold that just don't make sense. But you can't, these things are not just one thing in my mind. It's not just a physical creature. It's not just a demonic entity. It's not just

an interdimensional being. It's not just something that's created in a lab. I think it's very complex. And the more we let people like you just share your story, even if it doesn't match towards what other people think it is or what I think it is, just to let you share the story, I think we can really gain a lot of information that way. Yeah, that's true brother. That's what. what I'm saying, you know, I'm still skeptical, but when you talk about interdimensional things, remember, there was this red light that showed up out of nowhere to my 10 o'clock. And right after that happened, that's when I saw this freaking thing. So I don't know if I had anything to do with it, but the fact that it just happened within seconds that I saw this

pulsating red light and seconds later to my 7 in the clock, I saw this whole thing. black thing just hiding behind this bush. I just don't know. I'm very open-minded to the old possibilities, but I'm 100% sure one thing is we're not dealing with an animal. No, I don't think we're dealing with an animal at all. And the red light is interesting, too,

because I told you how, I think you and I had just connected, and I told you how I had an interview before yours, and I was talking to the guy about his experiences and stuff. And the idea of dogman came up, he's not sure exactly what he experienced. It seems like it might have been even more of a shapeshifter than anything. But, you know, dogman could be, you know, a skinwalker, somebody who's transforming their body. But one thing that he said, one thing that he said was that during his encounter with this thing, he saw off in the

distance these two red lights that he perceived as red eyes. red glowing eyes looking at him during his encounter with this creature. And, you know, maybe it has some kind of connection to your story. You know, maybe there is this. I'm sorry, the real light that I saw, it was big. It was like a, it's like, you know, I don't know, so sort of like somebody was lighting a fire. It was very noticeable.

I was unable to see the source of it, but it was the way it was shining around the trees in the bushes. it was not just a couple of eyes. It was very noticeable. It was something that called my attention to the point that I saw, who is in the military so, you know, currently is to just, you know, lit up, you know, that's a massive flashlight in the middle of the woods,

especially when we're doing in the middle of the rotation in a tactical situation. But it was not just like a couple of eyes. It was just a very, very bright, real light. Interesting. I never heard anything. I never smelled anything. But it was just the whole thing.

It was just so bizarre that happened within the seconds. I just don't know, brother. It's kind of weird, you know, like I'm 43 years old and I think monsters exist. I just don't know. I'm like kind of a bizarre thing, you know, like, but you know, I know what I saw. And I'm 43 years old and I don't give a damn what people think.

I know what I saw. And the good thing is I know the other people saw the same thing. Yeah. No, I, listen, man, I'm 38. I just turned 38 last week. And, yeah, I believe monsters. I haven't even seen a monster. And I've heard, I think monsters exist.

And, you know, it's an uncomfortable conversation when my son, you know, seeking, seeking advice and comfort and security. And he's like, Daddy, do monsters exist? because he wants me to say no, and I'm just like, yes, sucker, monsters exist. No, I don't say that. Because I know if I told you about the other, I don't know if it was an experience about a ghost or something, but I don't know if I told you about this, I know there's a prince that I have when I wasn't in football two.

It was pretty short. Don't remember. It's not going to take too much. It was like when we have the barracks and then if you don't have a car, if you cross towards this area that is a wooden area when you come out of the other side

you're going to find what is called the PX with the commissar. The commissaries is when you buy your your products, your food, whatever. The PX is kind of like a Walmart type of thing.

You got your classics where, you know, a whole bunch of alcohol because in the military we're literally just like a high-functional alcoholics. And there's this area that I was walking one time.

It was It was kind of dark. It was almost like 5.30 in the afternoon. And I was walking through it. And it was like a wooden bridge. And when I was halfway through it, I hear something to my right. And I looked and there was nothing. And when I was about to finish crushing the bridge, I hear something.

It was way more louder. And now, the thing that caught my attention was because I was able to fix it in one specific point because if I didn't actually see that point, I was not able to notice ever. And it was this little branch that came out of this tree, but it looked like somebody cut it and then glue it, but it did it. That way, it was not the perfect. You know, it's kind of like, you know, it was like a couple inches up. It's like when you put a pencil in water, you notice that's sort of like a visual you know

the reflection that you can see that something is broken. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I saw was your little branch that was coming out of this tree and it looked like somebody cut it and it glued it the wrong way and then 10 inches towards the left. It happened

the same thing. It seems like somebody cut it and they glued it the wrong way. So it was kind of like confused about it because this thing was literally almost like five feet away from it, just right there because it was very noticeable because I was able to see right away. And when I was looking at it, out of the corner of my eye, I noticed something else moved. It was like a piece of glass.

It was like something that was a piece of glass. It just moved. And I freak out and just run. So I don't know if it was a ghost or something. cloaking, but I noticed there was something there that was literally just right next to me. But the way you move when out of the corner of my eye was something that was very big. It was very big. Until the day, I don't know what it was.

And that happened on Fort Polk, right? Yes, there was 2014. That was actually before I left the military. When I was crossing that area, before the go to the commissioner, because I was planning to go to buy some food and stuff, but, you know, I freaked out so. so bad that after I was done by and I end up calling a cab to go back to the barracks. But it was something so bizarre, like I say, it's like a little branch that somebody cut it and glue it fit up in the wrong way that is not aligned perfectly. And then 10-millimeter, 10 centimeters later, I'm sorry, to the left, you notice the same thing phenomenon.

And then out of the corner of your eye, you see something like a glass. Some people talk about the whole predator type of phenomenon. that's not what I saw. It looked like a glass. It was very transparent. You were unable to notice it what it was, but it was something that moved. And I freaked out and I just ran out of that.

Until the day, I don't know what it was. Maybe it was a ghost or something. I just don't know, brother. Yeah, man, that's interesting. And, you know, it kind of heads into the direction that, you know, I wouldn't say I believe this or even think about a whole lot. but it is a thought to be had that military base is being strategically located in areas that have paranormal supernatural activity in them, either to hide those areas from the public,

to study it, to take advantage of it. I'm not sure, but, I mean, Nick from Tales of the Grid Square on Instagram, he's documented thousands of cases of weird phenomenon happening on military bases, like 29 palms, Fort Campbell. He's the one who organized the whole episode 575 for me and those soldiers. Then there's Fort Polk like you. It seems like maybe these areas might have dimensional shift-type things happening that allows this activity to happen for people like you,

even though you weren't looking for it. Does that sound like something that's too far-fetched for you? No, no. The only thing I got to disagree in the fact that I think it's just military, literally, I think it's just they're all over the place. And unfortunately, the problem is military bases are not small, brother, are massive. We're talking about, you know, thousands and thousands of course miles of terrain and, you know, things happen in, you know, in the woods.

And I don't think is related because I hear, you know, for example, I live in Peru, okay? And there's also stories about things that people see in the Amazon rainforest. And there is no military basis in that area. I never actually tried to want to investigate it because at one time I was talking to a police officer from listening to Ayacuchu. And he told me just to be careful. Because if you may have good intentions to find. trying to find some answers for the paranormal, but the problem here over this era,

there's a lot of, you know, drug trafficking, illegal mining, human trafficking. So if you're going to go to a place, asking for a whole bunch of questions, you may get attention from, you know, people do, you know, you don't want to get attention from.

But I know for a fact that there is stories about things that people see in the Amazon rainforests that they don't explain it. They're not able to explain it. Yeah, I mean, it's just this is a very strange world we live in. And there's a lot of weird things that are unexplainable happening within the world. And we're just here trying to document it. And I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experience here.

It was definitely interesting. Thank you so much for me. Because like I said, for me, I was able to talk to somebody else before, but it was kind of like, you know, you keep the thing hidden for so many years. It kind of eats you up. But like I say, it's something that is not every day, every day I think about it, every single day. And I think for the fact that there's people like you and your platforms that give you the opportunity to people to, you know, explain the thing. Because the main thing is you have to understand, you know, you got to let people know that things out there. Just got to be careful.

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