The Confessionals - 609: Atmospheric Beasts

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

In episode 609: Atmospheric Beasts; the show is taken over by Cryptids Of The Corn hosts, Jay Clone and Mr. E. They take us on a mind-bending exploration of the mysterious creatures inhabiting the upper atmosphere in this deep dive episode. In this episode, they tackle the science behind these creatures, delving into the layers of the atmosphere, the biological life that has been found in the upper atmosphere and dispelling common misconceptions. They explain that roughly 5% of UFO sightings are believed to be related to these organic beings residing in the upper atmosphere, drawing parallels to life forms found in the open ocean. These types of atmospheric monsters, ranging from sky snakes to cyanophores, jellyfish, and even manta rays, all set against the backdrop of scientific exploration. They then transition from talking about the scientific nature of these beasts, to the real life stories told by eyewitnesses. These encounters span many years and are from all around the world. Join us for a captivating journey into the science and visual spectacle behind these atmospheric mysteries, where we are not just questioning but uncovering the undeniable evidence of life above.Cryptids Of The Corn: Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cryptids-of-the-cornSpotify: open.spotify.com/show/cryptidsofthecornYouTube: Cryptids-Of-The-CornWebsite: https://www.cryptidsofthecorn.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSGET FACTOR MEALS: factormeals.com/confessionals50GET UNCOMMON GOODS at 15% off: uncommongoods.com/tonyGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionalsfree Promo Code: "confessionalsfree" for FREE BREAKFAST FOR LIFE!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - Head In The CloudsYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

Merkel Media's here This was all circulating around the base That a giant had to kill But no one was supposed to talk about it Boney fingers Reach up underneath the door Curl up to grab it

And then disappear When he came over to me Dude he slithered over to me The giant comes out of the cave And they're all frozen And he starts running and firing at this giant But the giant moves He's got a spear in one hand

And he's running really fast And spears Dan holds him up like this Somebody else Shoot him in the face Shoot him in the face They basically decapitated And I look over and there are two

Push and because I know I'm seeing A monster That's up everybody Welcome back to the Confessionals We're your guest host I am the great and powerful mystery And I am J Clone 42

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if you guys come over and check us out, don't expect that level. We're professional on the confessinals. Professional on the confessional. Also, Merkel Media appreciates all the members, like the members people. Yeah. Absolutely. Tony loves you guys. Tony loves you guys.

And we love Tony. Yep. You guys are the ones keeping things going. You keep in the ball rolling. Keeping the ball rolling. Yes. All right. So for this episode, we're going to do, I guess,

a deep dive into the atmospheric creatures theory. We're going to call this atmospheric beast and where to find them. I get it. Do you? Yeah. Nerd. It's like that nerd movie that I actually enjoyed. I went to the theaters and saw it.

Oh. The first one. I was very confused. Last time we were on the confessionals, we kind of glanced over this topic because we we talked for already like two and a half hours. Yeah. So this is an opportunity to take some time and really dive into the science. about these creatures.

And once again, I want to say that this is probably less than 5% of UFO sightings. Right. Some people think we mean all UFOs or are organic creatures from the upper atmosphere. No, probably about 5 to 6%. A lot of the tentacles UFOs. Ooh, scary.

But that's, yeah, I mean, in case a lot of you are new or had never heard that episode back in, I forget when that even released on confessions with us. But yeah, we speculate, or not even speculate, NASA did a study and found life in our upper atmosphere, all every clade of life that isn't in non, what? Taking my punchlines.

Oh, your punchlines. I write these long scripts. I got to at least let people know what we're getting into talking about for sure before you just swing blindly. Atmospheric monsters. There we go. Atmospheric monsters. We're going to talk about some creatures that are the. Like, you're in a Walmart.

Up in the upper atmosphere, everything from sky snakes to cyanophores to jellyfish to manorays. But we're going to do the science first. All right. We always try to do that at the beginning and then have fun with the end. Because we are the science. Yeah. As you tell, we're big professionals.

Now, so your first lesson will be on the layers of the atmosphere. Please don't do it. No. Don't do your butt tour bus driver voice. So science, especially in schools, kind of teaches us a lot of stuff that's either wrong or only partially true. They don't finish the lesson. So most people understand that the higher you go up in the atmosphere, the colder it gets, right? Right, yeah. And that's not fully correct.

Right. And it's correct to a point, though. You'd think it would get hotter and hotter because you're getting closer to the sun, right? Well, less atmosphere to hold on to it. So we live in the troposphere. on average it's about 10 miles up you know our part of the atmospheres where all weather occurs that deals most you know that deals with us where planes fly you know most all the stuff that we deal with doesn't leave that

the troposphere once again goes to 10 miles right on top where the troposphere and the stratosphere meet sitting in the stratosphere is the ozone layer this big layer of gas that bumps off radiation and then the stratosphere starts from 11 miles to 31 miles and then above that is the mezzo which is 32 miles to 85 miles. We're not going to go into the layers above that, like in depth, the thermosphere and the exosphere. But keep mind that's where satellites are sitting actually in our atmosphere.

Yeah, they're not in space. Yeah, they're in our atmosphere. But I digress. We're going to talk about the first three mostly today. So as you raise up through the troposphere, it gets colder and colder and colder and colder, all the way up until you meet the stratosphere, and that's about negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit.

That's kind of cold. Yeah, it gets very cold. Once you get into the stratosphere and you start going up through the ozone layer, it gets warmer and warmer and warmer. All up to about 45 degrees Fahrenheit where the stratosphere and the mesosphere meet. That's almost short's weather. Yeah. I mean, it's, but there's tons and tons of liquid water up there. And that whole like 25 mile thickness section of that part of the atmosphere is very hospitable to life.

And then once you start going up to the mesosphere, it starts getting colder again. So you have these weird inversions to where it gets colder as you go up through the trope, the one we live in, hit the strat, starts going warmer, until you hit the mezzo, then starts going colder again. So in between the, you know, the last probably five to ten miles of the stratosphere

and probably the first 10 to 15 miles of the mesosphere is a very hospitable climate. The first little thing we're going to talk about is this area has tons of similarities to the open ocean. Yes, it does. As above, so below. Oh, the bomb don't belong. I have a mom, don't know.

Yes. Any questions about that so far? I had a question. I had a question about whatever trance you just went into there for a second. So a big part of it is the open ocean environment or the open environment. There's nothing there. Like there's no cover. There's no.

So species evolve in very odd ways. You got clouds. That's about your only. Not even up there. Oh, yeah. That's down. Yeah. That's down below.

Yeah. Like you get an airplane. All the clouds are below. you. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Mm-hmm. So this open ocean environment, a lot of animals in the ocean have had a hard time developing ways to do this.

One example is a blanket octopus, which lives in the open ocean. The females have these long curtains they drape behind them, and they are famous for taking shapes of various animals. Oh, yeah. From sea turtles to sharks to even people. Yeah, they look like divers at times. Several people have died diving for blanket octopus, thinking they are a person drowned. There's sneaky Devils

Sneaky blanket octopus Yeah Others get very toxic Like the blue sea dragons You know they flow on the surface of the open ocean And they're really brightly colored And they just don't care

If they get seen Or if something tries to eat them Because it's a bad deal for you You know So what do you think about those two so far? I mean, yeah, good examples to start with Another one are most fish In the open ocean

Are silver Okay So they reflect light I guess I never really thought about that, but like, duh. Yes, they are completely reflecting all light, and it's like a little blinding pocket. So when we start talking about these organic UFOs, a lot of these guys follow those same niches,

these same adaptive abilities, to where a lot of these UFOs are silver. They almost look like metal, but they have on sides that open and tentacles pour out, or eyes, or even what looks like blood. I held a barracuda once. It can almost see your reflection in that thing. It's so silver.

Oh, and knife fish and stuff. stuff like that in the ocean, like you can. Yeah. But then there's stuff like the sargassum fish that mimics plant, like just junk, so plant matter floating in the ocean. They float like plants and stuff like that, so they see food by, they grab it, and then they go back to floating. So some of these living UFOs are going to talk about look like clouds.

They look like clouds that are a little thicker, but move with intelligence. So they're mimicking what's, you know, what's readily available, and this will be the lower atmosphere guys that may be living in the, you know, are part of, you know, the troposphere. So all the, you know, So all these environments, all these mimic things that, you know, prevent from getting eaten. What do you think about that? Well, everything, no matter what environment you're in, you're going to find your, in nature,

you're going to find your way to blend in, you're going to find your way to survive, and standing out like sore thumb isn't always the best thing. So most things blend into their natural habitat. But we'll talk about some of the gigantic jellyfish-fish-like creatures seen. Yeah. And they don't care to be seen because they are absolutely massive. It would be like a blue whale trying to hide. Yeah.

Like, I don't care. What are you going to do? I don't really care at this point. Eat me? Yeah. Good luck. Yeah. The other similarity is the extreme pressures.

Okay. So it's the opposite of the open ocean or the deep ocean. It's the lack of pressure. Right. The further you go up, the less pressure. Yes. Where the ocean, the further you go down. But it's also an extreme pressure.

And as we see that... Like an extreme lack of pressure? Yeah, but it's an extremeophile. Right, right. So that's the term for an animal that lives in an extreme environment is an extreme a extreme afile. Okay. So it'd still be an adaptation to deal with extreme pressure, even though it's extreme negative

pressure. Right. The other way. You know, so these guys are living. This could be why they get so big. They're probably gas filled. Their cells are probably stretched out. There's actually some membranes in jellyfish that are almost like spider web.

And their little cell driplets are like way far apart from each other. Whoa. So what do you think about that guy? The giant massive jellyfish thing. Well, that and blobfish are a famous example. Like when you pull them up to the surface. What is it? Blobfish.

Oh, yeah, I've seen them before. They do not look like that at the bottom of the ocean. They don't? No, they look like normal fish. Oh, man, when they come up, they look like a sad little, like, home. They've adapted to live in such deep depths. You know, that would crush a nuclear submarine. Oh, gosh.

That they, when they pull them up, they kind of implode. How are they pulling the, if they're going that? What are they fishing with? Like, insane, like, two-mile deep fishing line? There are some giant trawl nets. Man. Jigging for blob fish. Chicken for blobfish. There you go.

So what do you think about that? Like the extremophiles? Extreme temperatures. Or extreme pressures. I mean, it's good. It's good to paint the picture, you know, what the atmosphere is like above us. So it's good to have that information. Also, the next one I got for you is temperatures. So they can be anywhere from as low as negative 40s as high as 35 to 45 degrees Fahrenheit.

That sounds very, very cold, right? negative 45? Yes, but it's not really not that bad. As far as like extreme cold, isn't it like that? I mean, we've had here in Ohio, we've had like negative, you know, 10, 20 degrees. What's another 20 more degrees? So many life forms on the surface and in the oceans of Earth thrive in these temperature ranges. From the largest schools of krill on the planet, the things like bowhead whales.

Oh. Bo-head whale An endangered species That's right But these ranges are quite acceptable To these guys for long term Bowheads live The oldest living mammal

As far as we know There's a bowhead whale That has a believe A 200-year-old spear on its back Oh my gosh But by the time that it was The spear was put in his back by the date They were not hunting juvenile

Like whale calves Yeah Hunting females So he was fully growing back then He was at least a juvenile male Oh okay So he's probably 200 I think that I think

I estimate him at $2.75 or something like that. They got to get that spear out of his back and carbon date the handle. They know how old the spirits. They don't know how old he is. Has a manufacturer's date on it. So these bowhead whales grow really slow and they live a really long time because they live in these harsh cold inclinements. That makes sense. You know, most of their lives.

Yeah. And then you have the other stuff like schools of krill. They live in these cold waters because the ocean upswells of nutrients. Much we'll talk about upswells of nutrients later. Our krill is just like, I mean. But a little shrimp. Yeah, but they just eat everything, I guess. Detritus is what it's called.

What is it? Detritus. Detritus. It just means little particles of organic matter. Yeah. They can be everything from poop to whatever. Like plankton or, yeah. Okay, cool.

Any questions about those guys? Nope. Keep continuing. Lack of hard structures. Right. This is another one I kind of mentioned earlier with the open space. You know, it's kind of falls in the same niche or the same little thing. That these guys, you know, it's a big problem with breeding also.

no hard structures. So a lot of these open ocean animals scatter spawn. They just released millions of eggs and sperm at one time and just pray some of them make it. Right. And it works. Some of our, like the open ocean sunfish,

I think it lays like three billion eggs or something like that. Oh my gosh. Because they, you know, they don't, they most time they don't run into each other. Is that that big? Yeah, the largest bony fish.

Yeah. But yeah, so fish like tuna travel to the same area every year. So they may swim, they may circumnavigate the globe or their ocean they're in, but always go to these same rocky outcrops to breed. So we start talking about some of these gigantic upper atmospheric creatures and they seem to return to very familiar areas year after year.

Is that a nod to something in the future of this episode? Yeah. Okay. That they may be going back to breed. And then stuff like whale sharks, every time they find another one, they'll try to reproduce. There's giant filter feeders that don't see members of their own species very often.

But they give live birth to pups. and then their pups pretty much can take off right then and there. Right when they're born. Yeah. How many UFOs have you heard that a little UFO pops at the back of them takes off? Oh, plenty. Oh, well, that may be a birth. You think so?

Some. I guess it could be. Yeah. So that's where we're at so far. These very much similarities to the open ocean. Any questions, young man? Yeah, I got a question about UFOs giving birth. What if it's budding?

Yeah. Well, there are some that may bud. Like a jellyfish. Don't they do that? Or they split? Jellyfish reproduction is one of the weirdest of the animal kingdom. Wow, there you go. They produce both an egg and a sperm, and it forms a zygote.

The zygote swims around like a little fish. It latches onto a rock on the bottom, and it melts. And then it forms like a little flower. And then it grows another flower inside that flower, and another flower inside that flower. And another flower inside that flower. And then the last flower becomes a jellyfish, and it kicks it off.

and then the next one underneath it becomes a jellyfish, he kicks it off, so on and so forth. Yeah, jellyfish are probably aliens. They're very odd. It's not the octopus. Everyone is missing the mark. It's the jellyfish. Yeah. That type of reproduction is both sexual and some asexual stuff. It's weird.

Now, as you mentioned earlier, life has been proven to live in these upper atmospheric parts. Yes. So NASA and many other organizations have recent, in the recent years, have begun surveying for microscopic and macroscopic life in the troposphere in the lower stratosphere. So like I said, the ozone layer isn't right at the layer, right at the meat. It's actually sitting a little bit above in the stratosphere. But so there's a little bit of stratosphere we can get to without going through the ozone layer. Until the last 10 years, many sciences believe the upper atmosphere was barren of most life forms through the extreme nature of the habitat, but these studies haven't shown the exact opposite.

The earth is full of groups of animals called extremophiles. These animals fill in niches from all around the world that most people think are impossible to fill, from animals living in sulfuric vents at the bottom of the ocean, the colors of yellow springs, the acid vents, are types of bacteria. Oh, that's where it gets them that color? Yes. Oh, okay. And they just pick how warm they can stand and they sort themselves out.

Oh. So that's why they're all these big lines. Yeah. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, okay. So the studies have been focusing on, that will be focused on is David J. Smith and Samantha M. Waters of the Space Bioscience research branch and NASA Ames Research Center. So you can look up all these. You can go to the NASA website,

pull up those guys' names, and find all these studies. They're immensely big. We're going to short roam for you. Yeah. So basically in 2000, they started in like 2014, 17, and 19. The 19-0-1 is the one we're going to focus on for this episode.

Okay. So in 2019, they sent these things up that are basically macro and micro-inverterbrate housing units. When I worked as fisheries, we called them Hester Dendys for the, you put in the water. So Hester Dendys have like food. They call them bug hotels,

but they grow a lot of microbes too. So they're tiny little layers with tiny little gaps going up to very big gaps. You put them in the environment, you pull them out, and you can tell what macro invertebrates are living there. Macro means you can see what the eye. Micro means you can't.

So when you say macro invertebrate, micro invertebrate. Okay. That's what you mean. That makes sense. You can see it with your eye or can you not see it with your eye. So they started doing these

surveys, and they left the boxes up with balloons, right up into the layer where the troposphere meets the stratosphere. They were maybe expecting to find 14-ish species of anything. Like a small handful? Anything. I mean, we're talking mostly bacteria and algies. Right. They found around 4,000 species of life.

Every, like you already ruined. Every biological clade that doesn't have a spine. has been found up there, a representative of each clade. Sorry to ruin it for everyone, so there's my apologies. There is a jellyfish-like thing up there. Yes. There's fungus up there, bacteria, plant, algae, all the mix, even some insects have been found up there.

So, yeah, if you just go outside, take a look up in the sky, all this stuff's right above you, all the time. So these guys, they think that they ruin the survey. because when they were doing the survey, they left them up a little too long because they weren't expecting to find nothing. And what ends up happening is some of the bigger stuff starts eating some of the smaller stuff.

Oh, so it could be more. They estimate around 11,000 species. Oh, my gosh. That's a lot. Because a couple of the big guys were just like numb, numb, nut, you know, eating everything else. Right. They end up in this hotel. Yeah.

They're going to eat all the other guests. So life has already been proven to have extraordinary forms in the upper atmosphere. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

when we first found that out, that was insane. And I remember when you were researching that, it was extremely difficult to find that study. Oh my gosh, yes. Like NASA buried it, buried it, buried it. I have the link.

I will try to remember to send it to Tony, and he can give it out. Yeah. But good luck. Yeah, good luck on that one. Type in what I said. I'll read their names one more time. David J. Smith and Samantha M. Waters

are the main researchers. And pullup, they have done so much fascinating work into this field. But yeah, it's easier once you know their names.

And that's actually how I end up finding it is I think I've seen David's name associated with something else. And then I reverse searched his name and found it.

If you type in NASA Study Life, upper atmosphere, you will get nothing. Yeah. They do not publicize it. They do not.

Which makes you wonder why. I mean, NASA, never a straight answer. Yeah, nobody likes to any government. government agency, but they're not government. It doesn't matter. They get government funding. I know. They are the government, but they're not

so the government can do, yeah, you get it. Here's my thing. I think that why they're not pushing it hard is because they don't want everybody to know about it yet. Because I think they're going to finish it. Finish the study. Because the study stopped abruptly because COVID, you know, busted out, right, when the last study, the 19th.

2019 was that study, yeah. So, right, and that was late summer. Oh, right? When they got their first big one. when stuff was... And they were probably getting ready to go. Yeah. Everything shut down.

Yeah. So I think that to me leads, you know, I believe in all kinds of conspiracies. I think to me personally, that this might point to a couple scientists wanting to save their research until they can pursue it. Did you? I understand what you're saying, absolutely. But did I just witness you saying you believe? In some conspiracies. I thought he said all sorts of conspiracies.

Maybe. That's recorded, so you'll know. Maybe you did. Oh. This is breaking news to me. Just not the one. you believe in. The earth is not flat. I don't think it's flat.

Nah, we won't get into it. We'll not get into this. All right. My next little segment. Platonic-like life, the perspective of biology of the food chain above us. So, we've discovered most of these organisms that are living in the upper atmosphere are very, very,

very similar to what we would consider platonic or zoophile life in the open ocean environment. Oh, so now I was thinking, when you said that, I was thinking tectonic plates for some reason. Okay, so like plankton and things like that. Yes. Okay. These animals are not plankton.

They're very, very similar to plant. Similar. Like cousins or something? No, like as in their behaviors and what they do in the environment. Okay, okay. They're as in, they're doing the same job. They're doing the same niche as the ocean ones, but this is up in the atmosphere. So, almost always throughout Earth's history and the fossil record, when these platonic life like animals are things are plaitonic,

plants are fungi develop. The whales follow. I don't mean whales is in traditional, like what we see in our oceans. The big open filter feeders. Yes, yes. They follow. From the Permian period to the Devonian, to the Jurassic, you know, the Cretaceous, you know, the place to happen. It's happens every time.

How nature operates. Yes. It's, it's, nature abhors a vacuum. The upper atmosphere is actually a very safe, stable environment. You know, most of these stuff that happens doesn't leave. Like a lot of the volcanic eruption. so that Nash still gets up there. Don't get me wrong.

It's not like being below, though. A big one is the radiation, which we'll talk about. So this is this thing we're expecting to see. So when we start talking about the forms of life we're seeing in the upper atmosphere, these suspect of UFOs that are actually alive, we think we have found the whales and the sharks and the fish. Because, yeah, I think if we haven't hit it home yet, like we said earlier, as above, so below,

like in kind of a joking way, but it's a serious in a serious way. We do speculate the upper atmosphere does reflect the same like, I don't know, qualities of the ocean. So here's your whales, quote unquote, whales in the sky following your plankton, yeah, it makes sense. So Keebler's law, we're going to talk about. The elf? No. Oh, okay. Maybe.

He's very powerful. But we're going to talk about why animals get big in these environments, not just the food source. Because there's a lot, there's a lot of reasons in his Keebler's law. All right. There are several reasons. Open space breeds bigger creatures. Firstly, Keebler's Law. Kedler's Law is a biological principle that is a short state that an animal, or larger an animal, the more energy efficient they become. This is for several reasons. Travel. It's easier for a large animal to move greater distances than a small animal. And you look at this like elephants and drafts and even the big sauropods of the Jurassic.

They move a lot faster. Blue whales today. They swim so fast and they don't look like it because they're so big. They're just so massive, yeah. Also, heat conservation. You have less surface area to your volume. Ah, okay. So it's easier to stay warm

in these cold environments like whales. Right. You know, the bowhead whales can live in these cold, harsh environments forever because they're so big. Okay. They can handle it. That's why most whales leave these environments to give birth, and then they come back into them once the baby puts on enough weight to handle it.

Yeah. The other one is taking advantage of food opportunities. So, like krill blooms, they happen to their, you know, hundreds of miles long. They're not everywhere, though, in the open ocean. It may take you hundreds or thousands of miles to get to the next one. So to be big, you take advantage of that food source when you find it. You can eat everything and put up so many calories and put on so much weight and then wait to the next one.

And you can store it for a while, yeah. So that's why like six gill sharks and sleeper sharks at the bottom of the ocean, they get bigger than great white sharks. Yeah. Because that's what they need. Whale fall carcasses are so rare, and then finding food are so rare in these deep ocean. A deep ocean gigantism is another thing. But that happens also.

And that is Brigham's Law is deep ocean gigantism. Oh, okay. Which is some of these same things, conservation of heat. But it's also for food, you know, taking on food. The bigger you get, the more food you can put on. and also getting to these food sources. So these are two different environments, two different laws of very similar practices.

All right. So what do you think about that? Well, it's, like you said, it's mirroring the ocean. That's how it's going so far. The laws, because those are laws, you know, is that for all environments? No, those two,

one specifically deals with the open ocean and one that deals with the deep ocean. Exactly, yeah. But they can, in my opinion, be applied to places that are similar. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah, if the habitat, is that why, should I call it habitat, biome or what? It is the largest habitat on the planet.

Oh, the atmosphere is. The upper atmosphere by. Oh, it has to be on time. Massive percentages. Even the small area we're talking about this kind of study is still, you know, hundreds of times larger than any other environment on the planet. Well, you've got to imagine, you know, there's land and sea, and this is encasing. all of that.

Yes. So, of course it would be. And it's, you know, it's 25 miles to 30 miles thick what we're talking about. Oh, that's thick with two seas. And, you know, deepest spot at the ocean is like

either seven or 11 miles. I can't remember. Oh, I don't know. So, Mary on a trench. Yeah. So it's not, you know, there's a lot.

A big thing that maybe we kind of skipped over was the ozone layer, the radiation layer. Mm-hmm. So they thought life was, you know, couldn't survive above the ozone because of the solar radiation

coming in. Mm-hmm. many of the animals that the levels, I'm not going to go in the units of radiation and stuff like that, but many of the animals that live that would need to survive the radiation up there, we have animals down here on the surface that can survive those levels of radiation easily.

Okay. Like the big mess conception of tardigrades is they're invulnerable. They're, you know, they're... The water bears? Yeah. Okay. The problem is there's thousands of species of tardigrade, and each species can survive a different extreme thing.

Gotcha. But, you know, this one that can survive the acid of, you know, the deep-sea sulfur fence. would probably die in space. But there are ones that have survived in space and made it to other planets and stuff like that in our solar system due to hitching a ride. So these extremophiles can't, you know, can develop.

But there are plenty of animals that live low that can survive these radiation. A lot of them have either fast regeneration or the ability to absorb some radiation. And then you even have stuff like fungus on our surface levels that eat radioactive materials and absorb radiation. They love it.

So we can't talk about it greatly, but we have a friend that worked with a lot of radioactive materials. And they had to paint antifungal paint on everything because the fungus loved the radioactive material so much. It was just destroying everything around it. Which could have been very dangerous. Yes. Yeah.

So to say that there's no life up there because the radiation level is very, as far as life's concerned, mild, is ridiculous. We have stuff that not only survives the radiation down here on the surface. It eats it. It eats it, and we're talking about, you know, tenfold of what would be up there. We wouldn't do well. No, absolutely not.

But we are also, we don't handle the radiation we have well. I'm sure say, unless your skin and hair and everything falling off, you think your bonds that hold your body and cells together, you know, separate. If you can survive that and handle it, we do fine up there, yeah. So they're living up there eating each other, you know, flying around, they have their plankton, they have their algae. Yeah.

Also, the early space shuttles that were going into space said that they are going through the atmosphere would hit a green film for just a second. They'd see it on the windows, and then they'd blow past it. And they were probably hitting this barrier because it's probably packed full of algae. Just plowing right through it. Yeah. Putting holes in it. Oh, that's not.

Okay, I gotcha. The ship is putting holes. Yeah. I do have a question, though, about things that, like, the funguses that eat radiation. So let's say it eats it. I don't know. It's fungus, I don't know. How does it dispose of its waste?

The metabolation of fungus is above my pay. Okay, I was going to say, I just... I dealt with fish and salamanders. But no, I know there are... It's about to ask you all mushroom poops, but... So it'd be like, it'd be a different form of metabolizing radiation. Think of plants. Yeah.

Metabolize sunlight. True. Which is a form of radiation. Mm-hmm. And then they poop. They don't poop. Oh, yeah, you're right. I don't think fungus poops.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess not. I guess it's just how does that radiation has to break down and turn it, and then is it not radiation anymore? I think it's just transferring the energy into something else. It's a little bit above my pay grade. Okay. Like photosynthesis, I can tell you the eighth grade level what photosynthesis is.

Right, right. I cannot tell you the chemical reactions. I can remember the picture in the book, yeah. But no, but it's breaking it out by chemical reactions and turning it into an edible form of energy. I was just, why don't they throw that fungus down in like a tunguska or in Ukraine where that power plant melted down? What's that called?

I know some of the lighter nuclear waste disposal, like, does, they do have these funguses. Yeah. They do use some. And there's other forms of life that eat radiation. I mean, we have animals that eat, like we talked about, iron sulfide, the ironclad snail, eats iron sulfide at the bottom of the ocean. They don't have a digestive system. It's all in their throat. And then you have stuff that, like, some of these crabs and sulfuric vents eat some

sulfuric materials to survive. Okay. So eating a material that's not traditionally edible is not anything new. Life finds a way. But for that radiation belt, you know, stuff above it. I also think that some of these larger animals may pop below these. the ozone layer to hang out for a bit

and that's when they can get swept up in storm currents where they get pulled down to us because a lot of we'll talk about a lot of these guys are seen around storm events but yeah any questions about that so far

no I think it's pretty thorough now the co-vurgent evolution is a phenomenon where animals living in similar niches develop and evolve to similar looks where these guys can be looking like so best example sharks and dolphins

they swim a little differently but they have almost the same fin pattern relatively, you know, and they have a lot of the same adaptations, these sleek, you know, slender bodies, that kind of stuff. Okay. Questions? Nope, makes sense. Now, here's a big one we get a lot with talking about organic UFOs,

is where are they on the radar? Like, oh, you mean when they're scanning? Why aren't we seeing these guys? Yeah, like at every airport and stuff, you know, they should be pinging them, right? So we often do see them as close up on radar, but not long-distance radar. Okay. So these creatures are often seen, from the ground from planes and jets.

Pilots often, they show up, but they don't show up on close, they show up on close instruments and vehicles, but they don't show up on ground radar. The same radar phenomena was happening with sonar in the ocean. Oh, bum, bum, bum. Large organic beings are low density like whales. Even though whales reach massive sizes, long-distance sonar has a lot of trouble picking them up.

This is a problem of density. The long-distance sonar and radar is designed to pick up high-density material and objects like planes, jets, missiles, and submarines from long distance. But low-density organisms would be almost invisible. They may ping for a second and then un-pang and stuff like that. Just like maybe the angle you hit it at just right. I don't know. Yeah.

When you talk about close-range sonar and radar is much easier to time-tracking organic animals. This is why they hunt whales, whale hunting vessels. They use these close-range sonar to track whales. Okay. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Yes, it do. Now, this is one Tony may have yelled at me about that UFO Christmas special we did with Joel a while ago.

Yeah. Where I said, this is like what happened with the Tick-Tac UFO. Oh, I remember this. Yeah. Yeah. And I think the Tick-Tac UFO may have been one of these organic animals playing with the fighter pilot. Because it was showing up. Yeah, big take.

It was showing up on close sonar or close radar, but not long distance or ground radar. Oh, that's because it was in some other dimension. It was bending gravity. But to me, when you watch that video, it looks very much like a dolphin playing with a tugboat where he seems swimming in front beside scrolling all around. And then once it got bored, it was like, all right, I'm going to leave. Yeah, but that's not what David Grush said. Did he? No. I was going to say. He definitely did not say that.

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That's Code Confessionals 50 at FactorMeals.com slash confessionals 50 to get 50% off. So let's go over some of the types that we've identified in the organic UFO field. These aren't all of them because we're going to, we're saving some of them back. But these are some of the types. Manorace, sky squids, syphonophores, atmospheric jellies, and star jelly events. Ooh. So we're going to go through.

I got some stories of some sightings, some fun stuff for you. I included, yeah, the big one for us. the first one that we ever got sent in to us that kicked off this first one. The Kansas Manoray has happened in central Kansas between the years of 2001 and 2002. The witness that we now know, but he chooses to remain anonymous. So the witness encounter comes directly from this man. I'm just going to read it word forward. We ready?

Right, yep. Back around 01 or 2002 timeframe, a friend and I were lying on a car hood talking and looking up at the night sky. We were talking about the stars and personal relationship type stuff It was a clear night in Kansas And the stars were very visible And the moon had a good amount of light In the sky

As we were talking We both paused for about 30 seconds As we see something very large Flying gracefully above the tree line It was flying slow And its wings Moved like they were a manoray The front of its

Whatever it may be head was slightly longer than the rest of the Manneray's head would be. But it did not disturb the trees that were only 30 feet below it. You could see through it as the same thing like looking through clear gelatin and make out the stars on the other side. I thought maybe I was tired and my mind was imagining it. I feel tears swelling up in my eyes due to the awe-inspiring event that happened but brushed them to the side.

I look at my friends sitting there next to me And she was bawling and I asked Did you see that? I asked her if she saw the same thing flying to I tried to be as vague as possible To make sure she saw the same thing it was Mind you this is in Kansas nowhere near our body of water Closest river's about 50 miles away

Its size was close to that of an airliner Maybe a little smaller due to the depth perception Completely silent I thought its moon was very much creature-like not something man-made. So these giant manoray-like creatures, I'll give you kind of the basic description, have two of these giant wing-like structures

and a centralized body. Depending on when you see them and who sees them, sometimes people see organs inside. Sometimes they don't. The front of it almost like, it doesn't have like the manoray head, the tendrils that come out, the feeding apparatus.

Right. It has almost like a cone head that comes out for direction. They flap really slow. It's clearly evident that they are not flapping. for propulsion because how slow they're flapping

they'd be falling out of the sky like rocks. Yeah. Most likely what's happening is they are gas filled and they are flapping to steer. Okay. Using wind currents and stuff like that. They're very slow and with gliders,

these giant gliders. This story gets sent to us after we did our Ohio River Manoray, which we'll cover here in a second. These guys are big. So, you know, airline of Boeing, 757, we talked about 140 feet long. So if it's a little smaller,

120 feet long, so about the size of a blue whale. It's a big, that's a big creature. Yeah. But this weird phenomenon that happens specifically with the Manoray type is all inspiring. Right. It's like seeing whales. A lot of people, the first time they see whales up close, they cry.

This same thing happens with the Manoray phenomena that all over the world, these people that see these things almost seem to cry every time they see them or get really emotional. Most people aren't scared of them. Yeah. It's like being around a whale. You see this massive creature. swimming or moving so slow and gracefully. But you have no sense of your body of threat. I wonder if it is just like a,

seeing a big animal, but knowing it's not a predator, knowing it's not a threat, and it's just that's the all-inspiring part. It's just an overwhelming feeling of seeing something so big. It's just you realize somewhere in your subconscious, you just know nature is beautiful.

Yeah, and I think there's a lot, especially with these manor rates, and the jellyfish like, that people see them, it's not scary, but they're huge. I mean, when we get to the jellyfish ones,

we'll tell you some huge encounters they've had. But I do want to go over the Ohio River Manoray, probably the one that got us kicked off on this whole phenomena. Yeah. The Ohio River Manoray, it was in Mason County, West Virginia,

and Ohio, they're right on the border. Mm-hmm. The Ohio River, December 3, 2003. So in Mason County, West Virginia, all right, you ready for me to read this encounter?

Yes. In Mason County, West Virginia, along the Ohio River, a man and a woman witnessed an incredible sight of a living UFO. The couple started that they were heading home from Huntington, West Virginia, on this night along the river. They had an unbelievable counter of a large manor-like creature that was, you know, as best as they could tell, was a UFO. This animal was doing giant figure-8s over the road in the river. Now, this behavior is very similar in seen in many open ocean filter feeding. animals, including manorays and whales. They watched the creature for some time before it gently

flapped its wings and started to head back towards the sky. A day later, a woman and her daughter in Randolph County, a short distance from the first encounter, had seen a similar animal flying over the car. Two interesting facts about these encounters is both parties seeing a very similar creature. They all both had no fear, and they both reported their encounter days later. So they had these encounters, they reported them almost at the same time. They did not know each other.

Right, exactly. So they seen this really oddly shaped animal, reported it and didn't know each other. So what I'm getting at is that they both seen the same thing. Right. They had no chance of cooperating this. They had no chance of hearing about one encounter and be like, yeah. And then, you know, so that's an interesting thing. Yeah, that's probably the most famous story, too, of the sky manor rays or the, well, the,

the Ohio River Manoray. That's, I mean, when we looked it up, it's basically like the only one out there that's documented. All right. The next one, the next type I got for you is the twister worm, which is the cyanophore or cyanophore type. Now, the twister firm is Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. May 3rd, 1999. You can actually find the witness's name. She did come forward. I'm not going to, I'm just going to use her first name Danny. Okay. but yeah like she's one of the few of these weird UFO cryptic encounters gave her full name and actually you could almost find the exact place that's happened to farm so Danny was a resident of a local Miss City and she was an avid storm chaser on this evening she aspired something that she would never have witnessed before

May 3rd 99-9 a tornado touchdown with the fastest speed recorded on earth ever Danny watched from her porch as a tornado approached it and it was this time when they started recording they witnessed during this lightning flash what appeared to be a long piece of corrugated tubing all inside the tornado like swimming around upon further inspection it appeared to be a living creature with a long transparent worm-like body

with a head wide like a hammerhead which we'll come back to she speculated that the length of creature was at least 150 feet long it appeared to be swimming alongside in the tornado like in and out but there were tons of small similar creatures swimming in the tornado with it. Swimming.

Yeah. The creature stayed in the storm until it completely was out of eyesight by this witness. This encounter bothered them so much. They never went tornado chasing again. So it's definitely the opposite feeling of the manoray. Yeah, these are, so this long corrugated tubing. So we talk about this, maybe gas-filled chambers, these long, slender bodies. The little ones flying around it.

I don't think this thing was enjoying the tornado. I think it probably got stuck down from the upper atmosphere. It was stuck in it. It was stuck in it. Okay. It probably died. Yeah. It was probably eating the little guys that was chasing him. Like it was, you know, and then they all got caught up in a tornado with the fastest winds ever recorded at that time.

Yeah. And it, yeah, it probably died the next county over. Where's the dead bodies? They rot very quickly. Yeah, because, well, I think any atmosphere creature would because they're not made up of, they're very low mass. Let's put it that way. Soft and squishy. So, like, jellyfish and even stuff like salamanders will dissolve so fast.

Like, jellyfish is the big gelatinous masses. Well, remember that time you had that salamander in your tank, and I had an oxal pass away. And by the time we got home, it was completely dissolved. It was gone. The tank was empty because the things, I mean, that only had been, like, a few hours. We found it in the morning, and then we went, what did we do? We left. We got lunch, and we're like, I'll clean it up, you know.

Came back, like, later in the afternoon. And the tank, I mean, obviously the water was still in there, but it dissolved in water. The body of the specimen was gone, completely dissolved. My mind was blown when that happened. I couldn't believe it. I would have sworn someone went in there and took it out and, like, I don't know, disposed of it through the way. I buried it. I don't know what you do with salamanders, but no, it disappeared.

Completely. Yeah. So these twister worms have these cyanophores or cyanophores. they have these giant wide heads. Now, I don't think they're heads. I think they're mouth bits. Like, if you look at stuff like bobbot worms, which have these giant hinge jaws.

They're like mousetraps. They're push under tension. And then they snap shut real fast. And bobbot worms are scary. They're very scary. Yeah. If you haven't seen a bobbot worm, imagine like that.

Remember that giant space worm like in Star Wars? That comes up and tries to eat the ship. Okay, now they're not that big, but they're, it's like them living on the beach. and they, like, on shallow waters and they snatch, you know, little fish out of the water. They're just, but just like that,

then you yank them under the sand. And they're like three or four feet long, aren't they? They're probably longer. But they get like nine, ten feet. That's insane. But yeah, they got those big jaws. Like you said, it looks like it, or like they, the,

Danny said in her account, it looks like a hammerhead shark, but it's like you're explaining or you're speculating. You think it's the jaw that's sticking out, Not the actual head with like eyes on that that are sticking out. It's just the jaw. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

And I think they're, I mean, I think they're big. I think these are our sharks. I think these are these animals that are probably active predators just from having a very long, streamlined body. Looks like it's probably built for speed. Mm-hmm. And like I said earlier, I think they're coming down to the upper atmosphere and maybe getting stuck in our storm systems. Yeah. Because, yeah, with storms, I mean, you got a lot of swirling, well, just wind.

The whole atmosphere gets torn up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. The whole atmosphere is under extreme stuff. So if you get caught in the wrong spot, wrong time, which, for example, just because an animal's big

doesn't mean it can't get stuck in the wrong spot the wrong time. Yeah. The humpback whale that ended up in the middle of the Amazon. Yeah, ain't that nuts? Yeah, and it was literally people like it got dropped by a UFO or not. No, it was literally in a storm, in a storm surge, and it was a humpback whale that was in the wrong spot, the wrong time, and got stuck in the rainforest.

That's insane. I mean, might as well be a UFO. I think a UFO is less, Lest crazy? Yeah, less crazy. Now, I got a jellyfish one for you. Quinn Zane, is that how you say it? I can't ever read Chinese.

Oh, gosh. Quinn Zane UFO. I got a jellyfish UFO siding for you. Okay. This is a pretty famous one. It's in China. Let's leave it at that. I'm going to try to read names, but good luck.

Oh, my gosh. No, so it was October 19th, 1980, air, 1998, Four military radar stations in Hyundai, province China, or the presence of an undefined blimp hovering above a military flight training school. Once authorities determined the intruder was not a military or civilian flight, Colonel Lee, the base commander, ordered six jets to take off and intercept the UFO. At least 140 people on the ground saw the object. They observed it from the base.

The UFO first appeared to be like a small star. Then it crewed larger and larger, perhaps descending to live. lower altitude. They described it as an object as being a mushroom or a jellyfish-shaped object in the bottom with bright dancing lights. And even some of the eyewitnesses, 140 people, military and civilian all reported this. A bunch of the witnesses even said it had tentacles hanging down, just like a jellyfish. It looked almost like a jellyfish in the sky. There's the Swedish jellyfish that are seen often in the mountains. They even have them, they're seen so often they're in a lot of Scandinavian folklore. That's crazy. Right, the recent caught of war

was it Ragnarok? The one that just came out? They were in that? Yeah. No way. Yeah. They were in there. The Healdon folk or something like that.

I haven't played that one. I played the first one, but they had the giant atmospheric jellies as a part of these giant peaceful creatures. They don't do anything. Yeah. But you can release their babies. I didn't. Oh, wow. Okay.

So if it's got a war, you know. It's real. It's real, people. So you got, there's, these are seen off, and these are often seen in mountain ranges. So that's something I promised we talked about earlier is mountain ranges. Okay. So what is special about these guys seeing mountain ranges? So we have a lot of the manorangs around Appalachia, the Ozarks out there in Kansas,

Iraqis, in South America. They're seen all the time around these giant mountain ranges. And then, like, Sweden and China, why are they in these mountain ranges, Jay? Well, I think I already know the answer. I don't want to spoil it. That's why I was asking you. Oh, okay. Well, I believe, if I'm correct, if I remember right.

Don't worry. I'll let you know. Yeah, I know. Oh, trust me. I know you will. It's the, all the nutrients from like our ground level, the wind currents will hit those mountains and it will push them up into the atmosphere. So it's just like an upswell of nutrients coming from down here being pushed up into our atmosphere. So it's a very high density food source for creatures up in our atmosphere. So like you were saying earlier with the upswells of the krill in the ocean and then the big whales would come in, you know, and take advantage of that situation. That's just kind of the same thing happening here is that there's this, these nutrient dense upswells of air. Are the krill in this situation, quote unquote.

And then so it's a nice food source for all these creatures to have something, you know, so they're going to be seen around where the food is. Yeah. And the other thing is it acts like a big elevator for them to get back up to the upper atmosphere. Oh, that's the other one, yeah. That this could be this big up push of air. They would be the less energy to use to get back home. To get back up, yeah. And I do think they're breeding on the ground and that they are some of them are breeding on the ground or using the ground as a source. But yeah, I think that they're around these mountain ranges for food and for this way to get home.

I don't think they're power flyers, at least some of them. And then the other ones are around it because that's where the other organic euphos are. It's where the food is. Right, exactly. So you said it earlier, and I ignored you on purpose. Oh, I just so used to it. Where are the bodies, what happened to the bodies? Yeah.

Where are these meat showers, blood rains? We have a long history of them. Yes. I'm just going to use one example for this episode. Okay. But it's going to be the Kentucky Meat Shower. Probably the most famous one. Definitely the most famous one.

So the Kentucky Meat Shower was 1876. Mrs. Couch was on her front porch and she reported giant pieces of meat falling from the sky. They could be as light as a snowflake up to the like golf ball or a little bigger size. They fell from the sky, 40 steps away from her house. So hundreds of people experienced this. People from all over the country came over and were trying to ID the meat. Everybody said, like a bunch of people said it was beef and then venison, mutton, bear because it was super oily.

and then a couple guys even said it may have been human. That's insane. Oh, gosh. But this had been analyzed, analyzed, analyzed by tons of scientists and doctors of the day. Who are those guys, though, that may have been human? Yeah, those are the guys you look out for. It tastes just like people. Yeah. This is interesting.

They just got off the domber party. Yeah. How do you know? Wait, it tastes like what now? People. This tastes similar to people. Well, I was a gold miner. and I read it in a book. I read it in a book.

I read it in a book. Yeah. That's just what people taste like. This was over three counties in Kentucky. The Smithsonian still has a piece of the meat and alcohol. There's no testing you can do on it anymore. I bet you'd pulled it out. It would, well, I mean, it was the time of the day. They didn't have formaldehyde, like, rightly available.

They ruined it. They ruined it. But three days later, or nine days later, more meat reigned over the UK. And even some parts of what people said were vegetable like. Hmm. Interesting. And there's Star Jelly events all over, and that's the other one is Star Jelly. It's a pretty famous aspect of this.

And that's seen all over the world. All over the world. A lot of cultures have like that even in like stories about cosmic jelly, you know, star jelly, whatever you want to call it. Cup falling from the sky. Then there was a, we talked about recently on our show, the alien quote-unquote spores, billions of eggs fell over this town in Alaska with fatty droplets. This was, I'm trying to find the year, 2010, they had them, they knew there were eggs. One scientist said they were eggs of crustaceans.

That's nuts. And there's just big fatty globs, these big giant orange globs all over the river, lake, the lagoon, and all over the town. And it came in a rainstorm. So is that, it was atmospheric crabs. Dats atmospheric crabs. They were just dropping all their eggs. It's like an ocean up there. Yeah, it makes sense.

You've seen those crab, what's that, Deadliest Catch? You've seen those wave when they get the cameras on there, how many crabs are running along the bottom? It's insane. So that's obviously what happened. They're up there doing the same thing. They're crawling around the top of clouds.

So if an animal like this dies up in the upper atmosphere, why is it coming down in chunks? Well, because terminal velocity would start shredding it. Terminal velocity affects animals differently. Like if you drop an animal from an off of the Empire State Building, it will survive the fall. It doesn't have enough mass to its volume to affect it, you know, dramatically. Its terminal velocity is much slower. Us, you know, we're not going to come apart, even if we jump out of, you know,

we're really high in the atmosphere. We're not going to come apart, but your skin starts flopping and all. Yeah. But we die when you hit the ground. Absolutely. So if you're a lot bigger. Yeah. Even if you're mostly gas filled, you still have a lot of mass.

Right. You're going to start shredding on the way down. Yeah, if you're that, you know, what's the word? I mean, just less dense than most other creatures. As we speculate, yeah, you're going to get shredded when you fall through that. It's not like the atmosphere. It's not like falling through a, I don't know. It's not like falling in a vacuum.

Right, no. So I think that's what's happening with these star jelly immensely, some of them. You think, like, let's use, for example, like one of the manor-ray creatures, you know, dies. Giant jealous, yeah, it dies and it's falling down through the atmosphere and it's hitting all that windor resistance stuff and then just starts Just spreading it apart, shredding it. Yeah, and then all these people ate these chunks of meat and they couldn't really tell what they were eating Oh yeah, we did talk about this about a month ago on our show, I think, right? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, and I think I speculated. Yeah, we already figured that one out. It was just a guy had captured a bunch of turtles. He stole a bunch of turtles and got away on a hot air balloon and then instead of turning them over, he decided to just cut them up and or, you know, part them out and throw him. them over the edge.

Part them out and throw them over the edge. You had every kind of meat in the Kentucky meat shower and turtles have every kind of meat in them. Ham chicken, roast beef, shark. There's also the kind of, shark, there's also the kind of as cloud aspect. Ooh, yeah, like the cloud, what was that in Ireland? So the pink fog of Ireland, no, the pink fog is in Florida. The Irish fog, it was in the head. hills, I think it was in the gray hills, but they were

told you just to lay down and let it pass over you. Right, yeah. And some of the eyewitnesses said it was like a giant dog's tongue. I thought cats tongue. Yeah, cats' tongue. Yeah, which cats do have like that weird. It is. It's like sandpaper, but it is, but it's not. I don't know, it's weird. It's weird.

Much different than a dog. Much different than a dog. But if that was carnivorous. The carnivorous pink fog of Florida was a really scary one to where a couple of the eyewinuses said, it was a very thick fog that had a pinkish tone, but would literally like almost like a gelatinous cube at a D&D, where squirrels and stuff would end up in it,

and it would just like eat all the meat. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, so, yeah, is this like one of those cloud-like creatures, you know, up, you may be, maybe not so far up in the atmosphere. They might be living in our section of the atmosphere. And this is those mimics. Yeah, camouflage. and with the clouds.

Because I've seen some videos online and some I'm pretty sure they seem legit. We've played those on our live show. Yeah. Where they look like clouds that almost have fish scales in them. Yeah. Like there's an animal hiding in there. And then they move, but they move like not like the other clouds around them. So it's obviously something's different going on than just clouds blown by.

So I have right here for you. I have, let's see, the raining bodes, Carl Paris, Louisiana. 1872. We've talked about this a long time ago. Yeah, I think, yeah, we got this from the Library of Congress. Yeah, it's actually in the Library of Congress. I'm going to give you this short name, or this short story, but basically during a heavy, they had a heavy, heavy storm event. Like, almost the dams were blew out and everything.

It was raining, and this giant cloud came into town. And the pastor seen, a whole bunch of people in this town seen it. And it kind of stopped raining when the cloud. is over the town. This giant black clown. Cloud, not clown. That'd be scarier. And it starts raining

billions of bones. That's weird. All over this town. Yeah. And they started looking into it and they were almost all gar scales and bones, gar fish bones.

They're fish. They have armor plates. They have like really tight scales. Almost like arrowhead scales. So it starts raining. And then the cloud leaves and it starts raining again after it threw up all these bones.

and what we think happened is during a flooding event Garg got stranded all over. Like when you drive the Argus, it's always, and you see them dead in fields all the time because I just leave, like, during a rain event. It was one of these predators took a, this food source that was available.

A whole bunch of it digest what it could, and then like an owl or even sometimes snakes threw up all this stuff it couldn't eat. Right, didn't need it no more. So literally this town looked up and it just started pouring bones down on them. It's like stuff out of a... And then it left.

A horror movie. When I wasn't, no, it wasn't in high school. I used to coach high school track and field. So you know those events. They're all outside, whatnot. And it was super cold, but it wasn't rainy, but it looked like it was super cloudy and gray all evening. And it looked like it was going to rain, you know, the whole time.

Freezing cold, winds blowing like crazy. Everyone's miserable. And at one point, and this was during, a meet, this gigantic black cloud. And it was not black, black, but super, super dark. And it looked like a giant ship like from Independence Day. Look, look just like that. Just come hovering right over the entire stadium, like everyone's seen it fast. I mean, it looked like it was miles wide, but it was rounded, like it was a straight line. Boom. Here it comes. And as it got right to the whole entire stadium. The whole entire event or arena got dead silent and everyone just kind of looked up

because we all thought we were either one just going to get massive downpored. We thought we're all just going to get drenched, you know, and we're watching this big cloud. It comes right over and it lasts for probably like, and it's moving fast and it probably lasts for about like three minutes. Gigantic. Everything is dark and like it went from afternoon or like, you know, like four o'clock, whatever, five o'clock, you know, and late in the fall. So, you know, it gets dark sooner, but it's not dark at this time yet. And it got, like, dark. And it just hovered over.

Everyone was silent and just stopped and watching this thing. Three minutes, and it passes over, and then it's gone. It never rained, never did nothing. And then everyone went back to, like, normal and stuff. But it was just eerie and very, very weird, like out of a movie. What was it? A cloud. It was just a big cloud.

It was one of these things. I don't know. Maybe, but I don't know it. Like, now that we're doing this, it's... Why haven't you never told me that before? I don't know. I thought maybe I did. I don't know. But what were you about to say? No, it's probably sizing up how many people in the stadium. Oh, sizing up. I think they're going to say size of a Walmart.

And this is bigger than a Walmart. Way bigger. No, so hopefully we did some kind of job of convincing some people that there may be this chance that a small portion of UFOs or organic are creatures. Oh, yeah. Let's, let's, we didn't even really dive into that too much, but that's basically the point we're trying to make with a lot of these UFO, not a lot. With some UFO sightings, there is a window of chance that what you're seeing is organic creatures, just doing their things, and you just happen to be lucky enough to get a glimpse of them. Because the human eye can only see so far, you know. That's unabated is about 10 miles. And anything above that, I don't.

And if it's translucent, you ain't going to see it unless you just get the right glimpse. Yeah, the right angles. Yeah. And then we had one person say, then how come we see stars? Because they're pushing light to you. They're pushing the light to you. Maybe they're on this something, though. Maybe they're stars ain't what we think they are.

Well, even if they're outside the firmament or whatever you think, that they're still pushing light. They have to be because. Yeah, you're right. Either way. Because that's like, well, how come we can see stars? You're saying, I can't. No, you cannot see everything in the atmosphere.

Like you cannot. Right. Planes, those tiny, tiny planes, the jets you see are still in your layer of the atmosphere. They're only like five to seven miles away, 99% of the time. And you can barely. If they didn't have the little lights at night, you wouldn't see them at all. Oh, at night you wouldn't see them. I'm talking about the jets like you see them.

Even during the day. Yeah, during the day you could sometimes you look up and you just barely see those little dots. Well, if they didn't have those weird trails following them and darting across the sky, leaving a indicator where they're all at, you wouldn't see them at all. So what's your overall thoughts on this organic UFO? thing. I mean, we know for a fact that there are, there is, not our, there is life in our atmosphere. That's confirmed. So, we're talking upper atmosphere. Upper atmosphere. Yes, yes, yes. And that's a confirmation. It's been recorded. Whatever scientific method you

abide by or believe in, it doesn't, that was, is a tangible result. You could put your finger on. That's true. So, I mean, if we, unless, until we, And there's so many stories throughout history, old newspapers, clippings, you know, and the Library of Congress. We did a lot of research on this full of so many stories. The movie, and we didn't even touch on the movie. I don't like to touch on the movie. Okay, okay. Then we won't even go there.

No, the movie Nope. Everybody knows that the movie Nope is basically this. We had our first two episodes out before the movie Nope, trailer even dropped. That's true. So we were on this before the movie even came out. And the crazy thing will be found out about that movie. is they had government assistance in writing the story and getting ideas for how the creature should react. And just act in general on film.

And we believe it might have been like an amalgamation of several of the types. Yes, several different types of creatures up in our atmosphere and they turned it into one. You know, make a scary movie. Soft disclosure is what I like to call that. Soft disclosure. Just feeding the baby birds out there, letting them know. And the baby birds. This is real.

So once again, I've been the great and powerful mystery. And I've been J-Clone 42. I'm going to take a second to say, you know, if you want to check out our show, this is pretty much what it is every week. Yeah. Crips of the Corn podcast. You find us everywhere. You can find podcasts and all that fun stuff.

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and just thank Tony for thinking of us for this special thing. Yeah. Thank you very much. We love Tony. Absolutely. And I hope he has a very happy holidays. And I hope everyone out there has happy holidays and a very Merry Christmas. Merry, Merry Christmas.

Hopefully, in this after Thanksgiving, but hopefully you enjoy Thanksgiving and everybody's safe and everything. But now, what do we got to say? The truth will set you free. But first, it'll piss you off. Bye.