The Confessionals - 62: The Room Under Stephen Paddock

Episode Date: March 24, 2018

There was a watered down and edited video released this week showing Paddock's final days in Vegas. But can we learn from these short videos? Yes, but only what they want us to learn. There is a war going on for our minds. We have been manipulated on how and what to think for years. Tonight, we have the opportunity to take our minds back and decide for ourselves what to believe. On this show, we will be bringing on Dave, Annette and their daughter Clar. Clar shares what it was like being at the festival while bullets rained down on her. Then, Dave and Annette discuss what it was like being in the Mandalay Bay hotel room underneath Paddock as he fired down upon their daughter. Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionals Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster. Welcome to the show, everybody. You are listening to The Confessionals, a proud featured show on Blog Talk Radio. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's the Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com.

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Mom and dad were in their room in the Mandalay Bay, in the room below Stephen Paddock. So as Stephen Paddock was firing down on the crowd, firing down on their daughter, they were in the room. below Stephen Paddock, and they come on tonight to share their story of what happened that night and what they experienced. Let's get to it right after this. Yeah, so there's a lady who pushed your way forward into the concert venue into the first row, and she started messing with another lady and told us that we are all going to die tonight. My father was on the top 10 list for a while. His name's Benjamin Hodgkin's Paddock. I believe this is his name. I didn't, I didn't know We didn't know him.

There's no, he was in jail and broken out of jail. 58 people now dead. More than 500 people wounded in a horrific shooting in Las Vegas trip. It's the deadliest mass shooting in modern United States history. Because look at this. I mean, you look at the weapon, obtaining a different amount of tannerite available. Do you think this was all accomplished on his own? Self-value, face value.

You've got to make the assumption that he had to have some help at some point. People around us started laying around as well, and somebody got hit there that was laying right in front of me. His body, you heard him cry out, he flinched and kicked me in the head. And on October 1st, we were involved in an incident with an active shooter at the Belagio. And there's no, there was no mistake in my mind about that. that this is something that happened. And we were there. Maybe he's, you know, a super behavior that was working out of all this on his own.

But it would be hard for me to believe that. Okay, tonight I have a really special show coming on. We were contacted by a lady named Clarissa. And Claire actually said that she was part of the Route 91 Vegas Festival that had the shooting happened last year on October 1st. She joins us with her parents, Annette and Dave. So how are you guys doing today? Good. Good. Thank you, bad. Awesome. So Claire, you contacted me and told me, you know, a short snippet of what you had to say. And he said, if I was interested to contact you back, I was very much interested. So I was really glad that you were patient with me because I think at some point I had forgotten to get back to you. And I'm just really glad we're able to actually do this interview tonight because it's very

important to get people's stories out as to what happened with this Vegas shooting because you're right. In the interview you said, or not the interview, in the email you said this, and you're absolutely right, it seems like they're covering it up. It seems like the information just kind of hit a dead end, a brick wall, and we don't get any more information about it. And I think the best way for us to learn what happened that day is for people to come forward and share their stories who were there, who were involved. And you saw the show on YouTube and you contact me. I'm very very grateful for that. So what we're going to do tonight is we're going to have a more of a discussion platform. And we're going to start with Annette because kind of your story all starts with Annette

seeing something on Sunday morning. So Annette, if you would, just kind of start detailing with us what you saw. Don't be shy with the details of what you have to say. Go ahead and just lay it all out there for us. Okay. On Sunday morning, me and Davey, we're heading to breakfast. And we're leaving the Mandolin Bay going into the Excalibur. And or the Luxor, Dave, the Luxor. And I was noticing someone with a phone camera, and they were like on a FaceTime type of thing where you can see the other person on the phone. and I was looking at him and the way he was talking

to this person and the way the person was talking to him, it kind of made me an easy and he was kind of going around the the hotel with his camera kind of like not like showing it with his hand, you know, like

panning it around type of thing and I told Dave I said Dave that's kind of weird should I say something like that makes me uncomfortable and And my husband was like, well, no, not really because, you know, we don't want people to think we're racist or something because the person I saw doing that was like in, what would you call it, attire, like. Like maybe traditional e-mom type clothing. Yeah.

Okay. And so I, but he was like, you know, when you're on the phone, usually your voice is in a stern, but he was like, it just, I don't know, it just gave me a weird feeling. But what was weird about it is that he was showing the guy like slowly like looking around the room, you know, and talking. And it wasn't like he was doing it quickly. By the time we got up the escalator and I was looking down and I stood up there for a while and he was still panning it around. Well, then the day went on and we thought nothing of it after that, you know, my husband's like, no, let's just go. And so we went, we went to go eat and then the kids met us there. And then we were, we stayed at the Mandolin Bay.

I'm not sure if Florida said, I told you that. And we stayed under the shooter. We were in room. 31st floor, room 127. Yeah. So directly under Stephen Bedlock. Yeah, like under him. And it's funny because I kept telling Dave, something's keeping me up all night.

Like, can we move rooms, you know, and the kids and Dave were like, we're settled. Let's just stay here. And I'm like, I don't know. I have a weird feeling about this, but okay. You know, I was outnumbered. Wow. So this mom's always right. Yeah.

So I was just like, okay, so we stayed. Anyhow, we were enjoying the day. We had enjoyed the concert the night before and Friday night. And everything was going good. And we were so excited because actually I won these tickets to go. And so we were, and Dave hardly ever takes off work to go on vacation or do anything. So we were all excited to go. And so everything was nice and fine.

And then when that night, we had left the kids, we had just left the kids there. We were going to go pack up to leave early Monday morning. So we just left the kids there and I was like, be safe. I love you guys to her and Blake, her boyfriend. And then me and Dave headed back to the hotel. We got to our room. And since they have, you know, a shower and a bath, I thought, oh, be so nice to take a bath.

I had to be tears. So I took a bath. When I got out, it was like somewhere between, what time was it like? It was before 10. I know for sure it was before 10. And it might have been 9.4. 35-ish. Yeah, I think it was 10.45.

And I got out. I was getting ready and I was like thinking, whatever, I could start packing. And then I heard gunshots. And I was like, I heard, and I was like, Dave, Dave. And he comes down the back. He's like, do you hear that? And he's like, it stopped for a minute, you know, a little bit.

And then it started again. And I said, Dave, that's gunshots. You know, and I grabbed my cell phone and I start calling 911. And it wouldn't go through my 911. call. So then I tried again and it said something like a recording picked up thing to to call something or call a different number. And I was like, I couldn't for the life of me think because I was like panicking. I'm like, I hear gunshots. I'm trying to call 911 and it's still, I'm still downly 911 instead of doing what, you know, the phone recorder was telling me to do. So then I

gave up on that because Clarissa at that point called, right, Dave? Yeah. And she called and she's like, Mom, they're shooting. I love you. I love dad. If we don't make it. And I'm like, wait, no, baby. They're shooting here. I hear it here.

I hear it here. I'm in my room. I hear it. And then I hand the phone to Dave while I'm still trying to call 911 on my other, because she called his phone. We had, we both have our own cell phone. And, and then did. Dave thought it was like a tool or something.

Yeah, I thought it was, I used to be a plumber, so it sounded like when a pipe's not strapped in the wall, right? And it hammers like that. It sounds like a water hammer. I'm like, no, it's a water hammer. It's poor plumbing in the building. And I'm like, it's not a water hammer. Yeah, as soon as we heard the next year, he's like, it's not, you know?

And I was like, yeah. And then he's still on the phone with Claire, and we, you know, and she's talking to Davey. I'm on the phone with my, I've actually. call my parents at that point and I said something's going on. It's not going to be on the news right now, but they're shooting up the concert, but I don't know if they're shooting here in the Mandolin Bay because I hear it here. And my dad's like, well, be smart, be careful, you know, and I said, okay, so I'm on the phone and I'm trying to think of what I thought. That's when

everything came back to me about Sunday morning and I'm thinking, is this a terrorist attack on the Mandolin Bay? You know what I mean? Are they shooting up the hotel? I mean, I didn't know if it was like a bunch of people like shooting, walking up and down shooting in the room because it was so loud and so close to us. So it was a bit scary. And, but then when Claire said they were shooting at the concert, I'm like, wait, is it just, are they shooting everywhere? I just didn't really know, really know why. But what did Claire say to you then? So when Claire and I were talking on the phone, she said they're shooting. out of a helicopter at us.

And I said, well, they're, they're shooting here. And she said, no, they're shooting out of a helicopter at us. And I remember hearing, as she's talking to me, hearing gunshots through the phone and also going off in the room above us as well. And so she was pretty panicked and obviously. And I remember her telling me about People, you know, just going to chaotic.

And her and Blake were trying to get out of the concert. So they were running, you know, through the, through the crowd. We told you run to. Ran Claire. Run. Get out of there. I'm not, I'm not sure what it was about it, but that's something that I thought was really interesting in one of your interviews as you were talking about the helicopters.

And there was one that, like, you know, went off path or something, something around that. And so that's what that was what was really interesting to me because I don't know if it was just the adrenaline or if it was the panic, but I was so unbelievably certain that it was coming from the helicopter because it was so close. And I remember thinking, why is it that close? Oh, my God. I think it's, I think the shooting is coming from the helicopter. And so, I mean, I still kind of believe that. Because I just, in that moment, was so certain, just not a doubt in my mind that there was shooting coming from the helicopter. Yeah, I think when you told me that, I said, no, it's from up here.

Yeah. Yeah. And she did. She's like, no, no, boo. It's coming from, it's coming from here. And I'm like, no, it's not. What are you talking about? And I was just so confused and, like, even more panicked after that.

I was like, where is it coming from then? because I swear it's coming from right here. Holy cow. That's, I mean, I don't want to cut you guys off. But I would like to ask you, Claire, when you said it's coming from a helicopter and you were convinced of that and you saw the helicopter, I don't know if you ever saw any of the videos online of that helicopter and it looks like there's flashing light coming out of the helicopter,

like almost like a gunshot at the concert. Did you see any of that in person? You know, I don't remember because I was kind of running and looking back, so it wasn't, like, just staring at it. But I do remember, like, seeing, they have those openings on the side. And I could see, like, a shadow, like, not facing, like, facing out towards us. So not, like, sitting back how you would in a helicopter strapped in. He was, like, or, you know, they were, like, looking down at us. And it was like I could see their head then underneath.

I could see like a big blob and I'm like I couldn't I couldn't tell what that was. And so I think that's another reason why I was really sure about it because they were like looking down on us. And I really wish like I could remember every single detail with that night. But I just for some reason I just knew it was coming out of that helicopter. But just as far as the flashing, there was a lot of lights down there. there. And so I can't say for sure what I saw, but I was pretty certain at that time that it came out of the helicopter. Yeah, she kept telling her dad that. Yeah, she was very, very, very, very clear to know, it's coming out of the helicopter. It's coming out of the helicopter.

Yeah, we're trying to convince her that it wasn't that it's just above us. No, we know, we can hear it. It's above us. We hear it, you know. And, yeah, yeah, that was. Yeah, and as far as the the gunshots. I mean, it was no, once I realized that it was, in fact, not a pipe rattling

on the wall, um, you could hear it coming through very clear. I heard every single shot. Yeah. It was coming from, you know, from above us.

And, Claire, there was back at the concert with Blake. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And, um, so,

actually, he is my hero because he did, he did take care of, of Florida. I am. He was, It was when we couldn't be there because all we wanted to do was get out of the hotel and run to Floresa. She's our, she's our youngest.

And she's our baby. And, you know, we wanted to get to her. And I was grateful to Blake that he, you know, when the gun started going off that he, you know, he, you know, had her run, pushed her down. He was over her, you know, he protected her with his own life. And I will forever be grateful for that part of it. But, yeah, they had a scary time running, you know, from. Yeah, we were, me and my boyfriend, Blake, yeah, he was, he was just amazing. He was my rock through that whole thing.

But we were at the concert towards the back, like towards the back in the middle, more towards, like, the bleak. the bleacher section. And yeah, we heard shots. And I remember hearing it and like pretty much right away, I knew it was gunfire. And I'm like, but nobody else was panicking. And I'm like, why isn't anybody else panicking? This is gunshots.

Like, why is everybody just standing here? And then you hear some guy and he's like, he just gets up and he starts dealing. He's like, this is real, this is real. This isn't a joke. You need to run. This is real. and then everybody started panicking and running after that.

And then we somehow made it from the concert to the MGM Grand. And I can't remember exactly what streets we went up or how exactly we got there, but I was looking at a map, and I'm pretty sure it was we got out on cyclistle streets somehow. ran up probably like behind the Tropicana, cross Tropicana Avenue and then got into the MGM Grand. And I think the casino is facing that street because I do remember being in the casino first.

And so I think somehow we maneuvered our way over there. So when you were running out of the concert and it was paranoia everywhere, from the point, I think you said you were near the bleachers and that person that yelled, this isn't a drill, this isn't a drill, I'm kind of curious, and there's probably no way you could ever confirm or deny. But I know Rick, the guy who I had on my show previously, he was one of the first people that realized that this was not for a fake thing. And he had his group getting together and get out of here. And he had said that people were like,

what are you doing? It's just fireworks. And I just, I'm curious. I am curious to see if, you know, you saw Rick leaving. It'd be a weird. Coincidence. I remember saying anybody like walk away. And I don't, I didn't see who yelled it. But I just remember like, and then I think that was like just like a second before Jason Elbein stopped singing. Or it might have been like a student to see stop singing. But I don't, I don't remember seeing him or if it was like a group because I know Rick was in a group.

of people. But yeah, I don't know. That would be a weird coincidence, but I didn't actually see who it was. Okay. And when you were running out of the concert, Rick had described seeing people falling down from gunshots, things like that.

Is that a similar situation that you saw or were you kind of pretty much out of there pretty quickly? We were out of there pretty quick, but my boyfriend, Blake Hover, like when we got, you know, to like a calm or safer place, So we noticed that he had blood on his shirt and it wasn't from either of us. But you also try to help that girl. Yeah, there was a girl who was getting trampled by everyone.

And I just, I remember her, I remember seeing her laying there, like, you know, trying to score him out, trying to, she was yelling because, you know, nobody stopped to help her. And so I tried grabbing her arm, lifting her up. I'm like, you need to get up. You need to go. Like, girl, come on, get up. And. And then I started.

getting trampled. And then my boyfriend kind of like pushed me to get me out of that little because it was kind of behind one of like the vendors. So it was like a small space and everybody was just trampling through it. And I did, I did see people and I don't know if they were shot or if they just fell or what, but I did see people, you know, stumbling and falling. and I would like to think that it wasn't anybody who got shot, but I, yeah. And this is really, Clarissa's, like, I guess I've ever really talking about this.

So I'm happy she's opening up to you. Yeah, I am too. You know, Clarissa, when you were running out of there, was there ever any point in time that you did realize that there was shooting coming from the Mandalay Bay, or is the whole time you're there thinking that it was coming from a helicopter, even though your parents said it was right above them? I didn't see anything from the Mandolin Bay. I did believe them because I'm just like, okay, well, my parents are telling me this.

So, you know, that's what it is. It's coming from there. And I'm like, but then is it also coming from here? I'm like, and then I started thinking, okay, so there has to be more than one person that has to be like, is there people on the ground also? Are they coming towards us? Where are they coming from? Are they going to be on the strip?

Where do we go? Yeah. And when I told her to run, when she said they were shooting at the concert, I said, well, then you're the target. Get your band, your wristbands, just your country at, get your boots. You know, if you're the target, take your target off your back, boo, and run, you know. Because, I mean, I didn't really know what, why, what? We still don't know why or what, you know.

But she did. They did. They both did. Yeah. And that's a problem that we have so little answers as to what actually happened that day. And all we have is people's firsthand accounts coming forward and totally messing up the narrative that they're trying to push to us. And they're not even trying to push anything to us anymore. It's been forgotten. I mean, two, three weeks after it happened, all of a sudden we have this terrorist attack in New York City. And then we had the shooting in the churches in Vegas and, or not Vegas in Texas. And then the Vegas shooting is just old news.

And that's one of the problems that we have with today's society is that we have the social media-driven society where everything moves so fast that today's news is already old news. And so when something bad happens like Vegas, people move on from it way too quickly. And it just aids to anybody who would want to cover something up and, you know, hopefully have people forget what the truth is. are trying to find the truth, the fact that our society moves so fast from one thing to another really helps people cover things up, whoever those people are. And I know, I know Claire, you mentioned in the email that you felt like there was some kind of cover up going on. What makes you feel that? I mean, what are some of the details? Is it that you felt like there was two shooters and they're telling you there's one? Did anybody ever reach out to you asking what happened as far as law

enforcement goes? Did the FBI ever reach out to you guys? No, and see, that's that is what has made me so suspicious of this is that we, whether or not people believe that we were key witnesses, we were staying in the room directly underneath them. Whether or not you think we really have anything important to say, we should have still been contacted and we were never contacted by anyone. Nobody really took my parents' statements. And I mean, we're not hard to find. We're not hard to be able to find. And they have, you know, our information in the hotel records. And the fact that nobody has reached out us to try to, like, get our story or anything just makes me feel so uneasy because they should have.

That's their job. Right. Or even the fact that when, uh, was it ISIS, that they took responsibility for this shooting. And I was just like, and then when I saw Sunday, I was like, well, me, maybe, maybe we don't need to say. anything. Maybe we don't need to talk. Maybe the FBI just needs time to figure this out. But it, they've had time. And nobody's asked us any question. Nobody's asked us any, anything at all. Like, no, no phone calls, no interview, nothing. I mean, when we did find Clarissa and Blake, after all this, when we finally got out of the Mandolin Bay, I'll get

to that. But somebody took our picture. And that's the phone. I Yeah, and they had it in People magazine in the Orange County Register and stuff. And even through that, I thought maybe the news or maybe even the FBI or the police would want to talk to us. But we haven't had not had any contact with any of them. Yeah, you would think that when that picture gets posted like that, the authorities would say, who are these people? Clearly they were there. we want to find out what they experienced because we're trying to put this puzzle together. And the fact that they didn't reach out. And you're right. It's not hard to find you.

You know, I might be a little bit more conspiratorial minded than many people. But I believe that if they want to find you, they're going to find you. And it's 2018. And any secrets that we think we have, we don't really have. They know everything. And so, I mean, when it comes to this kind of stuff, they know how to get a hold of you. They know who was in every room at that hotel that day, that week. They know everything. And they should have already, by now, reached out to the people who were directly underneath him when the shooting was happening. So Annette and Dave, you guys are in the room.

And your daughter's at the concert. She's getting fired at. She's saying a helicopter. You guys are saying, no, it's coming from the hotel. Yeah. What happened? You guys are in your room. What were your next steps?

What happened from that point? Well, I was on the phone with my dad, and I was scared. I said, Dad, I'm more scared and concerned for Clarissa and Blake, because for one, I won these tickets. This was supposed to be the best thing ever, and it was Blake's first concert, both of their first times to Vegas. And I'm like, just find them, Dad, just find them. If something happens to me and Dave, because, like I said, what I saw on Sunday, and just

We had no idea what was going on. The shots were so close to us. My mind's going crazy. I'm telling my dad, you know, he's saying, play it smart, me, huh? Play it smart. Put, you know, block the doors, you know, put a chair under there. Just, you know, just make it hard for them, if, you know, anything. And he's trying to find out what's going on.

My stepmom's calling the Mandolin Bay. She calls the Vandling Bay. They say nothing to her. They put her through. to the room. And the room's ringing. I answered because me and my dad got disconnected. I answered the phone and my stepmom's like, they didn't say anything.

They didn't tell us anything that's going on. And I said, well, that's kind of weird because by now it had been, what, maybe 10 minutes now into this? I mean, it seemed like forever. So when I was going back in my phone logs to see when I called 911 and stuff, it was It was before 10. So when this, they came on saying, it started at 10. I was like, no, nope, it started earlier.

Before you go any further, I would like to ask you about that. I'm drawing a blank. What was the official time that they said that he started and stopped shooting? Do you know that? I want to say that the starting was like 1008 or 10.05. Yeah, I don't remember. I think he brings the bill. Well, because they changed it a couple.

Yeah, there was a few different times that I heard. But I think the last official one was 10.08. Okay. So let's just say 10.08. And what time did you call 911 the first time? The first time, I want to say, I told my son, well, don't erase them. I want to say that the first time I called was at 940. I want to say it was like 945-ish somewhere around there.

It was way before 10. Yeah. Because then when we called my dad and I'm looking at the logs that I called my dad, it was before, it was before 10 too. All right. So, uh, all right. So let's just say 20, 25 minutes before the official narrative says that shooting had started, you guys are calling 911. Now, when you called 911, was it before or after you talked to Clarissa? Before.

It was before. I was calling 911 as she was calling. I have we have two cell phones. So I was calling on my phone and I believe they called Davy's phone. And so I was calling 911 and I don't know why 911 didn't work, but it could, I don't know why it was sending me to a recording. But I kept trying to call. And, you know, in hindsight, when you think about it, I should probably just got on the mandolin Bay phone and tried to call 911. But I don't know why I grabbed my cell phone and started calling.

I mean, these are the things you think about afterwards. Well, so, I mean, what's the time frame here as far as you calling 911 and also talking to your daughter? Are we talking 10 minutes, 15 minutes, time gap, or 5 minutes, 2 minutes? No, no. No, we're talking a couple. Like, I'm calling 911 still, and I think that's when she still called you. Yeah, she was trying to get through to 911. Okay.

When it was called my phone. So it was simultaneously. Okay. So let's just for, you know, generosity's sake, let's just say 20 minutes before the official narrative of them saying the shooting started, you're on the phone with not trying to get on the phone with 911, you're talking to your daughter and your daughter's saying there's a helicopter firing down on her. You're saying the gunshots are coming from where you're at. And this is roughly, generously speaking, 20 minutes before they said that it actually even

started. And on top of that, you're telling me 911 didn't. work 20 minutes before they officially say the shooting even started. And that concerns me. That really concerns me because I've never heard. And I mean, I very much could be wrong, but I personally have never heard of a situation where people called 911 and couldn't get through other than 9-11 when all the certain networks went down because everybody was calling everybody, which is understandable because we know that there was an emergency. The fact that they're saying there was no emergency at this time that you were trying to call 911, why were you not able to connect to 911? I mean, if you, there's so many safeguards on your phone that if you need to call 911,

they make it so easy for you because they wanted to be very easy and accessible. And the fact that they, you could not dial 911. That's very concerned to me. It's very concerned to me. And I know you find it suspicious as well. I'm sorry. At you, I kept thinking, well, am I telling 911 wrong? How can I know?

911 and I call it again. And it's that stupid recording. And I was getting frustrated because my mind was thinking about Claire, and I'm trying to call 911, and it's telling me to call something else. I don't know what it was saying, really. The recording was saying something. And I was just like, I need to get through to 911. And then I was too concerned about course.

And I was like, what do I do, Dave? You know, and he's like, I think at that point we heard helicopters or something. Yeah, there was a lot of activity in the air. And the other thing, too, that bothers me through all this is, you know, all these things in an investigative reporting or investigation is all you have to do is if you have somebody who's saying, hey, I heard this and that, okay, if they're a liar, go check their phone records. Oh, they never made a call. Oh, then they're a liar. Oh, they made a call? Oh, I guess they're not lying.

Right. It's simple, it's simple, simple things to prove or disprove. and, you know, as far as, you know, that goes, so. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So let's just take a break right now, and when we come back, we'll jump right back into it, guys. So just hang in there with me. All right, I'd like to talk to you about our friends over at Astonishing Legends. Scott and Forrest, they've been putting on this podcast called Astonishing Legends for much longer than the confessionals has even been around.

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that is the biggest question mark of at all. Why? Like, this is their job, right? this is their job to investigate it and find out what happened. How did he get all the guns up there? Who was it more than just one person? All this stuff. And the simple thing of checking phone records to verify your story that has not been heard yet,

that it's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. And Dave, you said that there was a lot of activity in the air. Is that mean? Yeah. What do you mean by that? I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Nope, go ahead. I was just saying, yeah, because even when we're sitting in the room, I mean, maybe this isn't the most nice thing to say, but I remember sitting in the room when all this was going on, and I'm thinking, my guy was saying, they're probably just, you know, hitting a bunch of hotels all at once, and the whole system is overwhelmed. Because we had obviously access to the window, and I'm looking, I had the blinds crack slightly, and I was just looking out, or the curtains cracked slightly, and I'm looking at, I'm looking at the reflection in the other hotels because I didn't know at different points in time when they,

when they reached the door and I heard the gun blast, I thought they just blew the floor. So I'm looking for a fire coming out the side of the building. I didn't see anything like that, but I'm seeing all kinds of helicopters all over during this whole incident. And my 100% gut feeling was when this started happening that they're just going to hit a bunch of hotels all at one time. this is going to be a huge terrorist attack. And when Annette told me about the individual, since we're able to speak open,

I felt like, yeah, he was setting up information for his counterpart on the other end of the phone to have a bird's-eye view of the hotel casino as we're going up the escalator, as she was talking about on Sunday morning, he's giving him a good, just a good look around of this is how the layout is. And so hearing that for my wife and seeing, you know, her reaction to all this, she doesn't really scare too easy. And when she told me that, I, you know, I'm a white guy. I'm sure we're still allowed to say that on the radio.

She's Mexican, so we're not like we're a couple of inbred rednecks. But, you know, so, you know, we're pretty open-minded. And, you know, my reaction was because of the way things are now that, yeah, you don't want to be labeled as the Islamophob or the homophobe or this phob or the racist or what have you. And I think as a result of that, it's taken out our ability to use our uneasy feelings about a certain situation, regardless of what the individual may be dressed as or look. like or gender, we've lost the ability to say, no, something just doesn't seem right, irregardless of what the individual may look like. And just with that kind of is a backdrop into that, it kind of just made me feel like there's something bigger going on than just this immediate area that we're locked down in

in this hotel. And I still feel as though there was multiple. things going on in multiple hotels. It took them a while to tell us they rang a bell and it wasn't really telling us that anything was wrong. They just said it was a warning system or something like that, the Mandolin Bay. This was after a while though. And when we were in the room, I was, I did fall on my knees and pray for my daughter. I was just like, please God protect her and watch over. And I, you know, told my dad, pray for us. And I love you all if we didn't make it or whatnot. because I have no idea what's happening.

And when we heard them breach the door, we didn't know what that was. I thought they set off a bomb in the hotel. And I just text my family, I love you. Bomb. Because I just wanted them to know how I went if that's how I was going to go. So, you know, don't want people wondering. That's hard.

Anyhow. And so we gave, like he said, he looked out the window to see if there was smoke or anything. And if there was, we were just going to run for it no matter what. and but then that alarm went off. Did that go off after or before? So the alarm went off, I believe, if I remember correctly, when they breached the door. And I think it was because of the explosives, but I'm not sure. It could have gone off before just because he was, you know, popping off so many rounds.

It didn't say seeing your room or anything. It was just, this is a warning fell or something. Yeah, it was like an automated, you know, know, like smoke alarm kind of thing. Yeah. And, um, all right. So you guys are talking about them breaching Stephen Paddock's room. Am I, am I correct in saying that?

Okay. Right. Right. Now, how long before you hear that, that loud boom that did you stop hearing gunfire? I mean, was the gunfire going up until that point or not? We heard it. Dave heard it. Non-stop.

I mean, he just was going and going and going. But after they reached the door, you heard it. Yeah, after what happened, what I heard was gunfire, a lot of gunfire. I heard the door pop, and then I heard somebody shoot right after the bomb. Really? Yeah, because, and here's the thing, too, if I could just back up one moment. Go for it. I'm hearing people running through the hall, SWAT guys running through the hall.

and obviously we're unarmed. I mean, we can't carry. He was the only one that was allowed to carry a gun, apparently. We're in the room, and I'm hearing people going back and forth, and I'm thinking, well, what's going on? Are there people going door-to-door-to-door shooting people? I had no idea. So all the thing that's going through my mind is because my wife was at that point

huddled in the bathroom, she was pretty scared. So I'm thinking, well, what do I do? Do I have to break a mirror, wrap in a towel? and to protect ourselves or something, you know, that we didn't really have anything, you know, other to protect ourselves. And because, like I said, I'm hearing people running through the hall. Yeah, we didn't know who it was going through the hallway. And then come to find out, you know, as I'm kind of looking at the side of the, standing on the side of the door kind of peeping through the window, you know, the door window,

whatever you call it, little people thing. I saw some SWAT guys running through. And so they were, it seemed to me, I guess, going floor to floor is what it actually was. But I definitely heard a gunshot after they breached the door. Yeah, it came out later, though, that an officer did discharge his gun after. But they weren't the saying that in the beginning either. And, I mean, keep in mind, I have no, I have no problems with them taking out an armed suspect. I mean, that's a good thing.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so when they were coming door to door, they, they knocked on the door and they told us police and they had us get out of the room and they swept the room. And actually, they were really kind to us. Yeah, they were phenomenal. Yeah, we told them about Claire and that we didn't know where she was and that she ended up somehow, we think, at the MGM and that they were shipping her. her, they think to the Thomas Center. Thomas and the Tennessee. And so he's like, I think they're triaging there.

And I was thinking, and then my heart dropped because then I was thinking she wouldn't tell us if she was hurt because she's just concerned about us getting out of there. And at this point, we have a little more information because my niece is texting us, you know, it's on the news now. And they said that he's in the Mandolin Bay. And we're like, yeah, he's right above us. We can hear them and kind of thing. And so that was really scary, actually, for all of us.

And so we were telling the police that, and he was saying that we should in a half an hour go down and go down to the stairs, downstairs to the bottom of the lobby. And he'll try to. and let us get out of there because, but they were still sweeping. They weren't done with the rooms. They weren't done in the, in, um, the parking lot either. Yeah, I mean, I have to say, you know, the rank and file officers that were on duty in that situation, uh, there was all nationalities, all age groups. They were phenomenal.

I literally, when they came to our door, I was reluctant to open it at first, too, because like I said, um, that, you know, I don't know if it's just people, you know, shooting up the place or what's actually going on. I did have a concern, but when they did, you know, address us and everything, they were very professional, compassionate even. You know, they understood the situation and they swept the room. I did tell them the situation that our daughter was down there. And they said, look, let me just finish sweeping this floor.

Give us about a half an hour and you can go down. 10 minutes, half an hour, I don't remember exact, but give us time to sweep this floor. and then you can go down the staircase, or not the stairs, the elevator. And, you know, we did that, went down, and even the people at the bottom were aware of what was going on. We were actually the first ones they let out of the building. They actually had an escort officer walk us through the casino out to the park construction, because it was dead quiet. There was no one there.

No one, nothing going on like the machine. I mean, it was just so quiet. And it was, it was just so weird because every time we went down, it was always busy. There was always people, you know, there was people playing games, people drinking. There was nothing. I mean, you could tell people left in a hurry because there was still drinks on the, like, by the machines. There were tickets still left in the machines. I mean, people left quickly.

So I don't, we don't know what went down there. You know, but I heard later that they sent them to the Michael Jackson Theater and had them there, the people that were in the actual casino part. So they had them on walk in there. At that point, they were walking us out to our vehicle. And they walked us directly to our vehicle. They checked under our vehicle. They checked. I mean, it wasn't like they just let us, you know, like that.

They were, they were so kind. I mean, at that point, I was prying for my daughter. And, you know, one guy, one officer just put his arm around me, like, everything's going to be okay. You know, good luck with your daughter. They were just so kind and compassionate to us. Yeah, because we actually were seeing these SWAT guys coming back down, the elevator into this, into the elevator lobby area right there.

And they were all, you know, they weren't, they were just doing their job. They were, you know, great people. I thought they did an exceptional job of being human beings to people. You know, they weren't, you know, you hear so much on the news how they're just terrible. No, they were great people. And it looked like a kind of a ranking officer that gave my wife a hug and said, look, she's at the Thomas Mac Center now. She's okay.

We're going to get you to your car. And they were just phenomenal. You know, I don't put the balls on them at all as far as the rank. and file they were down there doing their job, they were phenomenal. I think it's, I think it's, but I think it's just a cover up from something going on, you know, way above their heads, obviously. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. When you guys, when you first saw the SWAT in the hallway, I think you said you saw it through a P-Phole. Yeah, the door people. Okay. Now, at that point, was there still gunshot going on above you? Could you still hear the gunshots going on?

No. The first time, I believe, no, actually the first time I saw them going through, there was no gunshots either. Okay. Because I kind of put two and two together at later point that they were just clearing the floor, you know, trying to find out where it was all happening. But as far as at that point, I don't remember, because I saw them at two different times and trying to give me a moment. I'm just trying to remember if I heard any shots when I saw them run past the first time. There may have been actually on the first time because that was much earlier. It's the second time they started from the down the hallway and they were coming up and I said, wait, wait, make sure they're not just telling people to come out and then shooting them. Like I was really trying to be prepared. Like, are they making them get on their knees?

Are they making them put their hands on their head? If they're just bringing them out to shoot them. we're not opening that door, you know, and he's like, no, they're letting him go back in their room. And I was like, okay, because I was really worried. Yeah, no, absolutely. And, you know, when it comes to this, I'm trying to draw like a timeline in my head, and it's hard. So I got to talk it out. They say 10.08 is when the shooting stopped.

Now, during the times you heard the shooting was, I'm trying to think of, like, you're right below. this room and you're seeing SWAT going. You don't hear, or did you, I can't remember now, did you say you did hear or you didn't hear gunshots when you saw the SWAT the first time? The first time, I think it was probably already over, because I'm trying to, it's been a while, and I'm trying to kind of recall it in my memory as well. But I want to say,

I don't think there actually was the first time because it had already been an extended length of time during that. And I think that was just because they were going floor to clear the, you know, to clear each floor. Because we're on the 31st floor. I want to say they got to our room for five. Yeah, because this was going on all night long as far as, you know, we were basically in the dark all night long. Right.

But I want to say is, or what I was going to say is I think that actually there was no gunshots at that point. because I think that they had already ceased as far as at that point. I'm trying to remember if it was... Yeah, see, I don't think there were... Actually, no, I don't think there was gunshots at that point because that would after... It was pretty much the firing of the guy on the floor above us was shooting out. Then they popped the door.

Then they heard a gunshot. And then from after that, I remember there being a long period where we were waiting. Because, like I said, this was going on all night long. Um, yeah, no, actually, no, I don't think there was any shots at that point because, yeah, that would have been, yeah, no, there would have been done because they were still going, you know, for hours, this was going on. And that was the other thing, too, is we kept trying to call, uh, down to the, to the lobby. Oh, yeah. And, uh, get some kind of information of what was going on. And it was, there was nothing.

You couldn't get through. It was just like the recorded thing. And it would ring and ring and ring. But other than that, it was just, you know, kind of like radio silence. the only information he had is whatever player or Blake texted it to us or whatever my niece

and my and that point my sister started texting us like there was a guy at the Mandolin Bay he was shooting at the concert on Facebook too oh yeah

no I didn't go on Facebook I don't think I think that's most information I got with from Vanessa me and Blake also only had his phone because about an hour before the shooting started, these girls, you know, they were just having a good time to join themselves. But they bumped into me.

I dropped my phone on the asphalt and it completely shattered. Like the screen completely shattered. And so I didn't have a phone the rest of the night. So the only phone we had was my boyfriend, Blake. And so, and, you know, he was on like 30%. So we're trying to talk to my parents. We're trying to talk to my cousin. And, like, we're on a limited battery.

and that was crazy. That was insane. Because whatever they'd say, we'd say to you or they'd stay through whatever. We were trying to all keep in communication. At least somebody always being in communication with Florida. She was our first priority. We wanted to make sure she was safe. Her and Blake were safe and that they were going to be okay.

You know, they're our babies. Right. So, I mean, you guys have rehashed this amongst each other. You guys live through this event. And there's just so many questions around it still. You know, like, for instance, you said that you saw suspicious activity. I think you said it was in the lobby of the hotel. Is that right?

Yeah. Yeah. It's actually, as you go from the Mandalay Bay through that court area of shops and stuff, go up the escalator. There's a like a long strip of stores and everything, and then it connects into the Luxor. We're actually going up that escalator, and that's what she saw the...

Actually, yeah, I saw before that when we were walking the escalator. And then I was watching them all the way up the escalator, and then I got off the escalator and was still watching them. And then that's when you're like, come on already. Can I ask you, now with this guy that you found suspicious, and don't be afraid to say anything, want to say. Just share what you want to share. When it comes to this guy, what was the distinguishing thing to you that made you feel suspicious about it? Because, I mean, you're in Vegas and, you know,

somebody could say, well, maybe he was just taking video and showing somebody of the amazing place that he's in right now in Vegas. He's excited and he's just sharing a video. What about it was really letting you feel uneasy? Could you hear something that he was saying or the tone of voice that made it made you feel like he was up to no good? Well, his demeanor, the way he, he was talking actually, it didn't sound like, hey, look at this, guys. It was like very stern. And the person on the other end of the phone was also dressed in the same attire that he

was. And that kind of made me an easy too. And I was just like, maybe, I don't know, maybe he was just trying to show his friend something and that's what a lot of people kept from you know like my family when I was telling them this I said it wasn't that though it wasn't that it was just he was so just stern not it wasn't there was no excitement in his facial expressions or anything it was just he was stern he was talking he was moving slow he was just like directing it like at one exit because there was one to the right of us. There was one and then kind of panning, panning the camera around and then panning it to

the left and like stopping there where there was also another exit that way. Actually, I think that one was to the front. And it wasn't like he was just showing him, because there was also like that there was a bar on the side of us. There was another bar in the middle of it. Like it wasn't, it didn't seem like he was showing them any of that stuff. You know what I mean? It was just It was just the way he was, his demeanor, you know, and the person on the other side, I don't know. It just, he wasn't laughing or anything. And I could only see him for a short time because I was actually walking and just watching at the same time, you know, as I was getting to the escalator. And then all the way up, and I was just kind of looking at him.

And on the way up, I'm still looking at him. On the way, when I got off, I was still looking at him. And he was, and I, it just made me feel so uncomfortable. And I thought, well, you know, when you're uncomfortable with something, maybe you should share it, you know, and I asked my husband, should I share it. And we didn't want to seem like, it is Vegas. We didn't want to seem like, oh, you know, or any type of, you know, racial profiling anybody or any, anything like that, you know. Yeah. At least that's how I think that both of us kind of felt at that time.

And then I was just like, okay, I'll just dismiss it. I won't say anything. But then when the, you know, the gunshot started, that was the first thing I thought of is like maybe it was something and maybe I should have said something because most people don't say anything. And then that's when something bad happens. But I was also getting bad feelings the whole time we were there. We kept hearing clicking sounds that for, because we had checked in on Thursday. And Thursday, we were there Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Sunday. And the clicking sounds is what kept me up. And we didn't know what it was. And I kept thinking,

let's just move. But like I said, we already settled. And I was just like, okay. You know, sometimes you just need to listen to yourself, that inner whatever. Yeah, it seems like you had intertition going on in that situation. And, you know, you were fighting with yourself. You just said that you heard clicking noise. Where did you hear the clicking noise? Where did you hear the clicking noise. Was it all over to place or what? Mostly towards like the

in the room we heard the yeah. When we were in our room we could hear like this weird it almost sounded like a door closing but without the wood without the actual door it was just that little click sound and we kept hearing it and we would hear

like footsteps walking around all night and like just that like constant clicking and like thinking back where like was he like assembling his weapons and like disassembling them was he getting stuff ready because that's kind of like after you think about it you're like that that is kind of how it sounded in hindsight in hindsight right you know i i would like to say and i don't know if this is going to be encouraging to you or not like i told you before i'm a truck driver so take it or leave it But, you know, you felt like, you know, should I have said something? Should I have not said something? You know, we just had that big shooting in Florida. 17 kids are dead because of a guy named Nicholas Cruz came in and shot up the place, right? There was a, he commented on a YouTube video. I think it was six months before he did this saying that he wants to be a professional school shooter. It was reported to YouTube and the FBI and nothing happened. And there's a lot of.

of times that the FBI knows about these people and still it happens. And so I would like to say to you that even if you would have said something, it doesn't necessarily mean you would have stopped anything because I'm very disappointed in how the FBI has been handling themselves when it comes to these issues. It's been talked about how they will actually plant people who have a propensity to, you know, want to commit a terrorist act and they will put them in a situation to help them get to the point of making that decision to do a terrorist act just to arrest them. And sometimes that goes awry. And it's there's a lot of things that aren't talked about in your mainstream media.

But if you do some digging, you find it. And it's just not going to be talked about on your, you know, CNN, Fox News, whatever, just like your story today. I mean, I'm Tony the truck driver that has a podcast and you found me. How hard is it for CNN or Fox News to find you guys? They could have done it if they wanted to. You know, it's not that hard to say, hey, I want to get an interview with the people below, the people above, and the people on the side of that room. It's not that hard, you know? And so...

Go ahead. Go ahead, Dave. Oh, no, I'd say, yeah, you're right. Because, you know, when you caused me to think of something, too, I even told the SWAT guys, when they came to the door, you know, that I heard everything. And I told them on the bottom floor when we reached the lobby, I said, yeah, you know, just because I, you know, was just having a conversation with them. I said, yeah, I heard everything. I heard when you, when you guys breached the door and I heard when you shot him. And they said, no, we, we didn't shoot him.

He was already dead. So they said that right there. Yeah. Yeah. So the thing, the thing is, too, is. you know, they knew that I knew, you know, that I heard everything. And along the lines of what you're saying is they have the ability to access our information, to access, you know, whatever they want.

And they had, you know, there's a guy saying, you know, because he's not thinking, oh, yeah, I heard every single thing, you know. I basically, you know, let him know that, yeah, I know exactly what happened. and they never contacted me or my wife. I actually called back to the hotel like a few days later because I noticed there was a charge that I wasn't aware of on the bill. So I called to say, hey, what's this extra charge? And I told them that I was in the room and everything.

They didn't really make any comments as far as, oh, we'd really like to get in touch with you. Can we give your name to the FBI or any kind of anybody in authority to pursue the matter? So it really, really sticks in my head that, you know, there's things that should be taken care of by our government, specifically, you know, the FBI in this situation. And they're just either caused to fester or caused to be overlooked because it doesn't really work in the plan, you know, that they have for having this buttoned up and everything. So that does just cause me to have some alarm. Yeah, and at first I was like, I didn't really want to say anything or tell anybody anything because I was like, they're working hard to, maybe they're working so hard to figure this out for us. And then as months and months went on, I was just like, I don't think they're working to fix it.

I think they're working to cover it up because we have heard nothing. And I heard nothing. The only thing I've ever heard is when I go digging and it's, it's, it's information like from you, like when Claire found you. It's information from others that I've heard on, on the, on YouTube. Yeah. It's not like something that pops up on TV or pops up on our news feed on Facebook or anything like that. Right. I have looking.

That's bugging too. Like when I was, when we got back and like, I was like going on the computer and trying to like figure out things. And what made me so frustrated was that every news outlet, you know, every magazine, everything was like saying the same exact thing, almost like a like a script. Almost like they were given a script and said, they said, hey, tweak this up a little bit so it doesn't look. Like it's like copying homework from your friend. Like, hey, don't write it word for word. just switch a word up, you know? And it sounded, everything was just like exactly the same and like no real information

was being given. And that drove me crazy. Yeah. And, you know. And actually, actually, this is our first time really sitting down together and really opening up and talking together as a family either. So thank you. Well, I really appreciate you sharing this moment publicly with me and the audience.

I know I appreciate it. I'm sure. the audience appreciates it as well. So let's just take our last break right now. When we come back, we'll bring in this show for a landing. We're right back, everybody. You know, when it comes to these, the YouTube, for instance, YouTube right now is in a transition. So is Facebook.

They're in a transition period where they have to decide what they're going to be about. And they're actively censoring a lot of different videos that talk against a narrative that the mainstream media doesn't put out. And so say this interview airs on YouTube, I'm going to probably want to put it on YouTube. I'd be very surprised to find out that this video was not censored because it just goes against the narrative. For instance, there's a guy who had a voicemail sent to him this past week

and it was coded by the alphabet in the military language. like it's like alpha bravo tango and it's spelling something and the coded message that it's spelled was uh i can't remember the exact message but it was very creepy and then he gets a message saying stop sharing this voicemail on the internet and he started sharing this stuff on uh twitter and some people got a hold of it and they started making reddit threads on it and the reddit thread every time somebody submitted something reddit took it down they took it down they took it down they took it And I have people sending me messages today of screenshots of what they read on Reddit. And the first person who sent me a message, I clicked the link.

They literally just sent it to me. I clicked it within 30 seconds and it had already been taken down. And they said they started taking these screenshots because everything was being taken down as was being posted. And so like the internet is just in a funky stage right now where things are being censored. And when it comes to the Vegas shooting, they're actively. censoring stories like yours that goes against the main narrative because they want it to be one shooter they want it to be stephen paddock was dead once they opened the door you have a different story you say that you heard a gunshot after they opened that door what's the reason for that gunshot

you know what i mean like if the person's dead they're not going to shoot a dead body so was there another was there another person in the room that needed to be shot was it stephen paddock that need to be shot. You know, on a previous show of mine, I had Rick come back to share more details. And one of the things that he shared was that Stephen Paddock actually had two rooms. And there's a door connecting one room from the other. And Stephen Paddock was supposedly found dead in one room. The other room, the door that connected to that other room was locked from the other side. Yet there was shooting from that side of the room. So how did Stephen Paddock lock the door from the other side of the room, he would have had to leave that room, go into the hallway, and come back

into his room to where he shot himself. What would be the purpose of that? There'd be no purpose of actually leaving your room and there's a doorway in between the two. And so there's a lot of things that just aren't being talked about on the mainstream narrative. And people like you guys coming forward and sharing what you've experienced is really the only way people like us are going to actually hear an alternative view, you know? And I think it's very important that you guys are doing what you're doing. Thanks. Thank you.

That door that you're talking about, I heard that in your other interview and, you know, I was talking to my boyfriend about it and about to my parents when I first heard your interview and I'm like, you guys need to listen to this. Like he is bringing up some stuff that you need to hear because it's kind of hitting it on the nose with like what we're talking, what we experience, what we're talking about. Like, yeah, yeah, that, that door, like, it's, how can you argue with that? Right. How can you just anything against that?

And it just blows my mind. So. And me, me, I always want to say, well, they just don't want to tell us everything because they're, they're working on a bigger, bigger plan, but bigger issue, a bigger ending. Like, they're going to tell us, like, all this stuff. We're going to learn all this stuff. And that's what's happening. Yeah.

you know, there's a couple of just two things I'd like to add if I could. One of them is exactly what she was saying along that lines is I kept thinking, I'm fine if they're investigating it and they can't have information out because they need to keep that silence and that situation to, you know, bring down whoever needs to be brought down. That I'm fine with, but rewriting everything. And then back up to when we're in the hotel room is, you know, the first, there was never a point in time in my mind where I said, oh my gosh, I wish they would ban guns. Oh my gosh.

If they just banned guns, because the only thing, quite honestly, I was thinking is how am I going to defend my wife and myself? And, you know, the only thing I kept thinking is, gee, I wish I had a gun because I would rather go down fighting as a human being and being, you know, shot like a fish in a in a barrel. So, you know, that really bothered me when it was. immediately they keep taking it right to gun control because I felt as though, you know, don't tell me that I don't and, you know, these others don't deserve the right to have a gun

when we're standing there. A right to protect our life. We have the right to protect ourselves just like, you know, this individual thinks he has, he or she, whoever was involved, has a right to take other life. we also as human beings have the right to defend our own person and, you know, and those in our family. So I just want to throw that. Yeah. You're absolutely right. And, you know, it's disgusting how quick. And this is what the mainstream media is about. And this is why I don't plug in. I don't plug into Fox News, CNN, NSNBC. I don't plug into these sources. Unless there's something like

happening in Vegas. And I just want to see what they're saying about it. But other than that, I don't plug in because they politicize everything to their agenda. And when this Vegas thing happened, it was not long. I think it was probably within 24 hours. They're already on the gun control thing. We need to get rid of guns. We need to get rid of guns. And, you know, even I can't remember all the details, but I remember being disgusted because

I went to CNN. They're yelling about guns. And I go to Fox News and they're yelling about something else. And I'm like, it's just a bunch of propaganda. And you know, the, everybody thinks that propaganda is illegal in the United States. And it was, it was at one time. At one time in 1948, there's a thing called Smith Month Act. And in 1948, it was created that prevented propaganda from being utilized in the United States. It was illegal. Absolutely illegal. And then in 2000, I think it was in 2012, the NDAA made some alterations, which is normal, but it allowed them to hide something within the NDAA, which was basically nullifying the anti-propaganda in this country. Since 2011 or 2012, propaganda quite literally is legal to be used on American citizens by

their own government and media. And nobody talks about it because they don't want you to talk about it. So they don't talk about it on the mainstream media. You think CNN and Fox News is going to tell you, oh, by the way, we can lie to you legally? Of course not. Of course not. But the fact is, that's what's going on right now. And you have, you have things like the DOD just recently at the, what do you call it, the Oscars, I think it was, that was just recently the award ceremony. They put out a tweet. And I think this tweet should be something that sends chills down people's back. They said in this tweet, it's Oscar, it's, I'll read this to you. It's Oscars hashtag 90 Sunday. And did you know that the hashtag DOD works with hashtag Hollywood to ensure the hashtag

military is correctly portrayed in films, question mark. Find out how these partnerships work. And then they give a link. Be sure to follow our hashtag Oscars coverage over on at DOD outreach. like they are saying right to you that they go to Hollywood and work with Hollywood and the films so that they are accurately portrayed accurately to who though to them exactly if there's anything negative if there's anything that should be exposed to us as the American citizens as to what is going on it won't be because the DOD is not going to say oh yeah we did mess up on that we did off on that a lot of people died on that go ahead say what you want to to say because it's true. They're not going to do that. They have a close partnership with Hollywood now.

And they're saying it right out in the open on their Twitter page. And so propaganda is a very real problem in this country. And the mainstream media is feeding only narratives that they want, whether it's Fox News or CNN. And I think it's very important that people like you come forward and share on platforms that you're allowed to be, that you can share on. I'm grateful that you guys came forward tonight and shared with me your experiences. And I'm going to share it with the world and hopefully that people hear it. And quite honestly, I hope that somebody hears your interview tonight and that is in a position to do something and actually contacts you after they hear this interview. What's your major vibe that you get from that night? So do you guys consensus,

is your consensus that there was multiple shooting? at night, or do you kind of vary on that? I strongly believe that there was multiple shooters just because of the fact, the helicopter, again, like, I'm not completely sure what I saw, but I know that at that moment, there was not a doubt in my mind that that was happening. That was back to me at that moment.

It wasn't a question. It was fact. And just, like, when you, like, again, the whole door thing just blew my mind when I heard it and just, I mean, that's just like, how do you argue with that? How do you argue with that? And so I personally think that there was more than one shooter. I would not be surprised if we later found out that there was more than one shooter. Right. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that there was more than one shooter.

But I only heard what I heard. And it was a series of gun shot pause, a series of gunshot pause. A series of gunshot cause. I don't remember hearing two that I really wouldn't know what to look for for that. I saw some video on the YouTube that they were showing two guys firing at once, and it sounded the same. I mean, could that have been possibly, yes. But my ears aren't trying to do that. But that's what I heard, you know.

What about you? Yeah, I definitely believe there's more than one shooter. And even, I don't know if Claire had mentioned this before, but I remember her on the phone with the, because she was, when she was running from area to area, and she got into the MGM, it could have been actually a text, too, that she texted me later that they were thinking

there was another shooter in the MGM. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there was, there was, um, talks about that amongst, like, the people that we were with, like, you know, people are saying, oh, stay in the casino. And then people are like, yeah, only if you want to die, run this way. Like, there's another shooter. And, like, then all of a sudden somebody said that. And I don't know if, like, they were just saying that. And then it caused to panic. But I do remember, like, five minutes after that, it was, like, a big panic. And everybody was just running and screaming again because. everybody was certain that there was another shooter in the MGM. I never... Yeah, there was a security guard. He said it. First, it was just this guy with his wife who said it. And then they were kind of like walking away.

So I don't know if he was like serious about it or he's like, hey, there could be another shooter. I'm not going to go that way. But then there was a security guard. After that, I didn't see him again. see that security guard again, but he also said that there was another shooter. And so that's, I think that was when everybody kind of went crazy and, like, started running. I completely forgot about that. And yeah, but thinking about it, I don't remember seeing him again that night. It could just be because, you know, a lot of people was a big panic, but I don't remember seeing

him after that. The security guard. Yeah, and I, you know, I, I 100% believe my daughter. or two saying that they're shooting coming out of a helicopter as well. And then at that immediate moment, I was hearing the guy, you know, like I said before, as she's speaking to me on the phone, I'm hearing it coming out of, you know, out of my ear from both ends, one from the phone and one from above me. Why it would be a far stretch of the imagination to have two shooters. And the other thing, too, I guess it would be after the fact of just what I found just from researching on my own is there's too many things that happen outside of that specific incident

in the surrounding hotels. I mean, it's just, it seems to me as though what happened is there was more things going on, but they're just going to focus on just the one item being this is going to be one shooter. He's Stephen Paddock. He did all these bad things. We got him. And fine, I'm glad they got him. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was involved 100%.

Like I said, the police did fire, or the SWAT, I guess I should say, specifically fired when they went into the room. Like you said before, why would you need to fire if the guy's already dead? Yeah, I understand adrenaline's running, but these men are specifically trained for these situations. It's not Barney Fife running into the room with Andy Tohn and to hold off. Right. This is, you know, these specifically trained, you know, people who,

who are here to deal with craziness every single time. And I have a hard time believing that they accidentally discharge their weapon or whatever they want to spend it. These are professionals. These are professionals. When I saw them, when they came to our door, they weren't Barney Fife. We've got to get out of here kind of thing. These were very calm, collective young men doing their job. And I think it's totally believable that there was many more.

more shooters. And, you know, like I said before, I think this was just one part of an entire incident that was happening in that city. I think there was probably going to be a lot more things that would have happened. Yeah. Simentaneous. You know, I, I've heard so many different theories and people's ideas on what happened from terrorists to bad gun deal gone bad, uh, lots of different things, you know, and I just, you know, we, we know that in 2000, I think it was 2008 or 2009, you know, the whole fast and the furious thing where we were selling guns to our enemy. And they wound up, those guns wound up being used against our own soldiers then. And that whole thing blew up. And the illegal gun trade, that whole thing blew up. Just because we know that happened

and they know we know that happened doesn't mean they stopped doing those kind of things. And so it makes you wonder, was, you, Stephen Paddock, you know, being somebody who worked with, you know, the CIA or something like that, doing these black operation things. I mean, we know he worked for Lockheed Martin, which is the number one gun dealer in the world manufacturer-wise. And so, I mean, and they say he was just an accountant. Well, how does an accountant become a millionaire? I'm sorry. I mean, I don't do much gambling and stuff. But, man, you must be really good at gambling if you become a millionaire like that. You know, So there's a lot of questions left unanswered.

You'd have the sheriff who says during his news broadcast to the world, he said that he believed that there was multiple shooters. So something like, you know, come on, people, do you think that this was really just one person? He said that, you know, and we see the sheriff breaking down over time. You know, we see him, his demeanor really diminishing over time. And I really think that he was getting beat down by the FBI throughout this whole. process and he was a bystander of this.

Did you notice that as well in his news conferences, how he just kind of changed? Yeah, that's why I was going back to even, like I said, you know, the professionalism of the rank and file guys who were there, they were good. They were doing exactly what they've been trained to do. They were the finest, you know, on that day. And I sincerely feel like, you know, they're being told, you need to shut up and sit down. We're going to handle this. If you're asked to speak, this is what you're going to speak.

I have no problem believing that at all. I mean, there's just too many things that go on in our government. I love our country, but I don't trust the government in every aspect. I don't think every politician is bad, and I don't think every politician is necessarily out for destruction. but I know there's enough that goes on that's been proven through time, that it's just in history that there are things going on. And people left unchecked with power are able to do some evil things. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

That's very well said, very well said, because, I mean, they brought this on themselves. You know, the fact that you don't trust your government, there's a reason for that. They brought it on themselves. We're in 2018, communication is. at the highest level it's ever been in human history. Never before in human history have we been able to communicate with each other with such ease as we do now from any distance. And I think that that is presenting a problem. As a society of humanity, we're learning at this stage in our existence, we're actually learning this new communication on a mass scale. And there's,

there's glitches to be worked out with that. And that's also with our government. They're learning at a mass scale that it's a lot harder than it was 50 years ago to keep things quiet because communication is on such a mass scale. And I think that they're learning a little too slow because they are the ones that brought this on themselves when it comes to distrust because we now can communicate. Like this interview that's happening right now wasn't even possible 10, 15 years ago. It just wasn't. Exactly. No, you're absolutely right. And so, I mean, they have to adjust a accordingly. And the only way in my mind for them to adjust accordingly to earn the trust back of the people

is to be more truthful and honest and actually do things honorably. And there's been so much underhanded work going on where they are only, that they were only out for themselves and we're seeing it now. The only way to reverse that is to be very public with what they do and to actually do what's right for the people. And I don't think they're ready to do that. No, and I think they fear the ability of the people to, you know, ultimately we have the second amendment not for hunting or enjoyment. It's for the protection of the citizenry against the government, not to roll out to destroy the government. But the point being is it was created as a safeguard for the people of the country to take back their government. should the government, you know, choose to enslave them and, you know, become, you know,

some type of government where they're forced to do just exactly what they're told and have no opinion, they have no say in anything. And that's, I think the, I think people fear that that are in government, that, no, we need to, anytime there's some kind of incident or anything that we can, you know, market, we need to market, we can't have guns, we can't have guns. we've seen that throughout history. Every unarmed citizenry is the ones that get run over. Look what Hitler did.

He immediately said, okay, we're collecting the guns. And then he, you know, was free and clear to do whatever he wanted. And that's a scary thing. You know, the government, our constitution and our branches of the government were set up with powers to keep each other in check and a constitution to guide the nation and to guide their, their, their, duties as officers of that nation to, uh, to serve the citizenry. And if we breached and we, we fall away from the constitution and we don't do our jobs properly as, uh, leaders, then we don't really have a, uh, United States. We have nothing but disorder. Right. Absolutely. Uh, it's, it's to protect against tyranny. And it's funny, though, I, I just told somebody this today.

They mentioned about the right to form a militia. And I told them, even though it's in there and it's your right, I think it's pretty much impossible to do in 2018 because as soon as you form a militia, the government will label you a terrorist organization. And with their propaganda that they're legally allowed to do now, everybody will believe you were a terrorist organization and they'll either kill you or put you in jail. And that's where we're at now. We've let it get this far.

We've let it get this far. And I own guns. And I'm, I'm, I'm pro, you know, second amendment, obviously, because I own guns. And one of the things that I, and I'm not, I'm not the smartest guy in the world. I'm just not. But one of the things that I see is a city like Chicago where there are supposed to be no guns. And it's a gun-free zone. And it's one of the most dangerous cities in this country.

And exactly. And I sit there. I kind of look at it sideways. I'm like, I know I'm a truck driver. I know I never graduated college. And I know I'm very honest with myself. I know I'm not the smartest person in the world. But it doesn't make sense to me that they disarm Chicago.

And now Chicago is the most, one of the most dangerous cities we have. And there's other examples of that. And so I just, I don't know. There's a lot of things here. And I do think it comes back to the, fact that they are legally allowed to propagandize what we think. They are in control of what you think. And that's the thing that when it comes to like Facebook and YouTube that they're dealing with is that YouTube and Facebook right now are in the middle of a transition where they are

deciding what's appropriate for you to see. What's appropriate and true for you to read. And so if it's not whoever's making those decisions at Facebook and YouTube, if it's not up to their standards of what true is, they will not put it in front of you. And so they are literally controlling what you think. Like people would say, oh, well, they can't control my thoughts. No, they literally can by controlling what they allow you to see. They're in control of that, not you. And I don't know if you guys ever heard of a guy named George Orwell. People that listen to my show, I know I'm a very big fan of this guy's book. He wrote it back in 1948, which is the same year that they made propaganda illegal. And he was actually a socialist and saw what socialism can do to a society. And he

actually went the exact opposite direction. And he wrote this book of him projecting what he believed a socialistic society and would become over time. And he called it 1984. He kind of just swapped the numbers of 1948 when he wrote it, 1984. And though his quote unquote prediction was off years-wise, is when you read that book, you look around in today's society, and it's a lot of the same things that he talked about in that book. He talks about in the book of a society where they control what you think. They redefine words so that they control how you think about the words that you even say. And it's just when you look around, it's what we're doing now. And I know what I just said is going to probably tick a lot of people off. We probably get a lot of hate mail for it, but it is what it is.

You know, I'm used to people getting mad at me. You're absolutely right. It's like we're living in the video, pink's wide comfortably numb. It's sad. It's hello. Is anybody out there? Yes. You know, I, no, they're true.

I used this example. I just saw this example one day. That's one great thing about driving truck is that you spend a lot of time being bored. And when you're bored, great ideas are born. And I was just thinking about, like, how. I feel like I'm living in bizarro world where everything's like backwards, you know? And I feel like sometimes I'm living in like a simulated video game where, you know, in a video game that has a storyline, you can choose what you want to do in the video game. But only one path that you choose for that game will actually take you to the next level.

The other paths you die. And I feel like sometimes we're living in this simulated video game where we like, all right, we're going to go down this road. And that's not what they want us to do. So they cut you off. and they redirect you to the path they want you to be on. And I use that example with the idea of you had the shootings down in Florida. And right after the shootings, you have a big thing where everybody's saying, take the guns, or they're saying arm the teachers.

And when you say arm the teachers, that obviously makes a lot of people uneasy, whether you're pro gun or not, because, you know, you have teachers with guns in school now. You're dealing with unruly students. How do we know that teacher has the proper. refuse to handle a student that might get in their face. You know what I mean? Without going overreacting. There's a lot of,

there's a lot of worries about that, right? But, and this was not talked about a whole lot. And you may not even heard of this, but just like two weeks ago, like literally, just like two weeks ago, there was a teacher in, and I think it was in Texas, who barricaded himself in his classroom and discharged his gun. There was no report of anybody dying, no report of anybody being injured. But I looked at it. I was like, it's like they're.

redirecting society's mindset and saying, this isn't a good option because this is what can happen. So get off that and get back on to taking the guns away. That's what it made me feel like. Because I was like, where did this come from? Who is this guy? Where's this information? Like, nobody's talking about the fact that just a couple weeks after one of the biggest mass shootings for schools we've ever had, a teacher is barricading himself inside of a classroom and disarming a gun. Like, nobody's even talking about it. Why? It doesn't make sense. Yeah, I keep wondering, are we in the Matrix sometimes? I know. Literally, I mean, I really feel like sometimes I'm going crazy.

Like, I'm just looking around like, what is going on here? Like, I don't understand how this is even possible. But we've let things slide, little things here and there, and over time, it's accumulated. And I use this example a lot. The thief isn't going to come into your living room at noon on a Sunday while you're watching football and take TV off the wall. What the thief is going to do is going to come through your window at midnight and take a lampshade. And then the next night, they're going to come and take the table. And so all of a sudden, you don't have anything and you've been robbed clean because they do little things so you don't notice it. And that's what I feel like they've been doing with us for, you know, 30, 40, 50 years. Exactly. No, I think you're absolutely right. I mean,

it's gotten out of hand in it. It makes me sad to think that they're manipulating the minds of kids. You know, these kids are already hurting because of what they've gone through. And they're going to say, hey, you know, we have an idea. Let's give gun control. Well, you kind of missed the whole point that it's already illegal to murder. That's kind of the big one right there. The device used to distribute the evil is really irrelevant in the sense that it's still accomplishing the evil act. Murder is still the goal. Whether the guy went through with, you know, a knife, a gun, a bomb. It's really our journey.

It really doesn't matter. The point is that he wanted to take life. And it doesn't matter if it was one life or a million lives. It's still a wife that he intended to take. And his avenue of distributing that wickedness was going to come through whatever means he could use. And it really makes me sick to think that, you know, you have that father that went in front of the people and said, hey, look, this needs to stop. and, you know, figure it out because it didn't happen again after it happened on the airplane. And now all of a sudden, the, no, no, we're going to just take more, we'll take bump stocks because

that'll take the whole problem. I never even heard of a bump stock before you missed happen. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Glad you guys figured it out because now I feel so much safer. Yeah, no, I totally agree. And that doesn't make sense to me either. I mean, taking bump stocks away. I mean, if your whole idea is that guns are the source of all this, what's bumpstock going to do? I mean, bullet is a bullet. It still gets fired. And so I think, I don't know. Like, it just feels like there's very, there's a whole lot of information being thrown at us from all different directions.

And I think sometimes that's done on purpose so that it's hard to make sense of what's true and what's not. And I think we're living in that firestorm right now. Yeah, I think they just try and keep everybody so inundated with information that it's not. nonsense and here look this way, here look that way, look this way, and people are eating tidepods and confused with which way to look. Yeah, absolutely. Tide pods. Oh, man. It's the tide pods. Maybe that's what it is. Tide pods.

Oh, tide pods. What are we doing? Oh, man. Anyways, well, listen, I'm going to wrap this up here. I appreciate you guys coming on and sharing what you guys experience and just kind of talking back and forth with me. Before we get out of here, if each one of you could just maybe just say something that you guys would like, just your final words, whether it's what you believe happened that night to anything you'd like to say before we end. I just want to let you guys have an open floor before we get out of here. Well, yeah, I definitely would be more surprised to find out that it was one shooter, you know. And my boyfriend Blink couldn't be here today, but, you know, we talked about him a few times, but he was really the reason I made it out of there alive.

And, you know, when he hears this interview later, I just want to say, hey, love you, Blake, and, you know, thanks for being there. Yeah. Yeah, because that day, that night Blake was actually going to be. go back to the hotel with with days and pack and me and claire were going to go see jason el-dine but then i wasn't feeling too well my stomach was kind of hurting so i was like ah you you kids go and enjoy it have fun but be safe i love you so i have some guilt there that i wasn't there with my daughter but i also have some piece that god's like uh blake got her over an eight-foot

wall you weren't going to get her over that eight-foot wall and a you know. So I'm, I wish it wouldn't have happened, but I am grateful that Blake was there and was able to direct Laura and be our hero of our family. I love him for that. And, um, and I'm grateful that they both, we all get to come home and so many people didn't. And my heart breaks for their family that have lost them. And I hope that they can have some type of closure through people just coming forward and telling their stories. I hope that not only will this help heal and mend

my daughter's heart and mind, but also maybe whoever else listens, it can start, you know, maybe it can be a band-aid for someone else. And I wanted to be supportive. me and my husband wanted to be supportive of course that and be here with her and just you know tell tell our story and we got to share it together and I think that helps us too you know and I'm thankful that you've given us a platform to to share our our story and to share

what we had went through and hopefully giving somebody else a chance to say hey if they did it, I could do it too and maybe give closure to others. And, you know, I'm grateful for my husband. And, you know, he talked to Claire and was able to make her feel safe on the phone and stuff. And I couldn't do that. I was at a point where, like, just panic and didn't really know, really not a person in a panic. But for some reason, just the thought of my daughter running for life just made me flip out for a minute. But I just, you know, think that and hope that there will be some closure and some more detail to come out for others, too.

I'd just like to say thank you for having the courage to stand up and say something's not right. I think that that speaks volumes of you. And I think it's important that our people and our citizenry know that when something's wrong, and something doesn't smell right, something doesn't look right, we have the ability to say, yeah, I'm with that person. We're all agreeing. This doesn't look right. And to bond together and say, hey, the others that were there are the people that are thinking about this.

What do you think? Let's analyze this. Let's look at this more closely and find a solution to this, or find an answer to this, because something's not right. And I appreciate that. And I also do want to say as a parent and as a dad and having a daughter, it's always scary as they grow up. And they're going to, you know, you trust them to go hang out with a guy. And you know he's a good guy.

But you're like, well, what if something happens? And I appreciate the integrity and the strength of this young man who put his life on, he covered my daughter's life with his life to protect her from bullets. they were real from however many shooters there was. And I appreciate him laying down his life for my daughter and getting them both out of there safely and having the clear head to perform as he did. He did an amazing job, and I'm forever grateful for him being there at that point in time. And I'm very sad for the people that didn't make it out, and I'm thankful for the people that were in there.

Also like Blake, who stood up and said, we're going to, and I think it speaks volumes of our nation, the people that are in our nation, that we are good people. And we do have a concern for one another. And that's what separates America from a lot of other places. So that's what I'd like to say. Well, I really appreciate you guys coming on and sharing with the audience. And really, the pleasure is all mine, having the opportunity to talk to all three of you. who were there and experienced things from a different vantage point, being from the concert, from the hotel.

And Blake, if you're listening, you're awesome, man. Keep being who you are because that being who you are is what allowed you to do what you did that night. And that just speaks volumes of your character. So I wanted to say that as well. And guys, thank you very much for being here. And if you have any other things you'd like to share with me over time, feel free to text me, email me, however you'd like to do it.

I would love to talk with you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope that you gain something from tonight's interview. I think that some of the best things that we can do as a group of people is to sit here and listen to somebody else, share their story on what they experienced that night in Vegas. There's going to be details that are revealed in these stories that you're not getting other places. And that's why we're doing this. So I hope that you gain something from it. and I hope that you enjoyed hearing these people, this family, and what they experienced and how they've moved on from that dreadful night. If you've had an encounter or a story that you'd

like to share with me in the show, go ahead and shoot me that email. My email address is the Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's the confessionals podcast at gmail.com. And I also want to let you guys know that if you are interested in seeing the video of the helicopter shooting that I was referencing during this interview, go to the website, The Confessionals Podcast. I'll be posting it underneath this show. I hope you guys have a great week. Stay safe. Take care.

And I'll see you right here. Next Saturday night on the Confessionals. Some days it's tough just getting up. Throwing on these boots and making that climb. Some days I'd rather be a no show lay low before I go out of my mind. But when she says, baby, running muffins.

Is it even worth? I'm fighting for an ex-shot of faith.