The Confessionals - 631: Goliath's Blade

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

In Episode 631: Goliath's Blade, Tony, Joel, and Juan dive into the iconic biblical narrative of David and Goliath, casting a unique lens on the story's connection to ancient technologies and supernatural phenomena. They kick off their exploration by discussing how Goliath was a Nephilim, thereby introducing a blend of mystical theories into the biblical story. The trio examines the weaponry described in the story, highlighting the peculiar characteristics of David's sling and stones, alongside the formidable sword wielded by Goliath. Their discussion suggests that these ancient weapons may not have been ordinary tools of war but were instead imbued with advanced technological features or magical properties. Throughout the episode, the conversation expands to encompass broader themes, suggesting that the David and Goliath story could be a symbolic narrative encoding profound knowledge about ancient civilizations' expertise in technology. Tony, Joel, and Juan encourage the audience to look at the Bible not only as a religious text but as a treasure trove of insights into the universe, faith, and the technological prowess of bygone eras.Joel Thomas: https://linktr.ee/joelthomasmediaJuan Ayala: https://www.tjojp.com/The Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0AFFILIATESPrepare with Valley Food Storage: https://alnk.to/2uG55AOGet your Nephilim Blaster 2000: https://alnk.to/9mnHak1Bluecosmo Satellite phones: https://alnk.to/e769EipSee Bigfoot with Sionyx night vision: https://alnk.to/bEhxr3FEmergency medical with My Medic: https://alnk.to/dpr6QM4Black Beard Fire Starters: https://alnk.to/4BFcIbeEcoFlow Power Generators: https://alnk.to/flvpAQwGoDark Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/5jke3rkEMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSFACTOR MEALS: factormeals.com/confessionals50SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsHello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionalsfree Promo Code: "confessionalsfree" for FREE BREAKFAST FOR LIFE!!!CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - Lights On The MesaYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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We have in studio a returning guest for, I don't know, how many times you've been here, John? Like 14 now. It's got to be something like that. We have Joel Thomas here in studio. And we also have Juan from the Wan on One podcast. Boys, how are you? The utmost authority on all subjects, Joel Thomas here. what I heard from some people.

I mean, listen, that's what I hear too. I mean, it is what it is. Yeah. Is that something that you've heard in the streets? That's what, yeah, that's what the esoteric streets are saying. That's always the main guy for all these topics. But happy to be here, excited. And it's crazy.

I was saying that when I first started listening to you, I'd always wonder, like, you know, as a podcaster that started podcasting because of other shows, man, I wish, when I go on the confessionals one day, I wonder what I'm going to talk about. And here we are in studio. Yeah. So kids, follow your dreams because they do come through. Yeah, yeah, follow your dream.

And you know, that's the thing, man. Like, we're talking a lot about podcasting and stuff. And one thing that I've been saying a lot recently to people is that a lot of times people don't see their desires come true because they give up too fast. And just because the timeline was different for somebody else doesn't mean that time. timeline is going to be this, like your timeline is your timeline, you know? And I mean, so, so I think some people might be like, oh, well, it happened so fast for Merkel, right? But compared to who? Because like literally on the other side of this country is one of my best friends. And when he started his memberships on his website, like, it didn't take as long for him to

become a podcaster full time like it did for me, you know? And so it's like all of it is timing. And when you look around the room all the time and you're trying to look around and see what everybody else is doing, you often get discouraged and then you stop. And so just have the blinders on, keep going forward, and eventually it will happen because most people give up. And if you don't give up, you're going to win. Well, I was telling you, Tony, yesterday that my pastor said something very interesting

that really resonated with me a week ago where he said, you either deal with the pain from regret or the pain from discipline. So it's like, are you going to go through that pain of disciplining yourself to get to where you want to get to? And like you said, man, it could be a long time, could be a short time. But generally speaking, it all happens in seasons. And it's how you grow to get to that point. Because you're going to have failures. But a lot of people give up because they see failure.

And it might be the first time, might be the fifth time. But then you didn't know that the sixth time you were actually going to get where you wanted to get to. And you see that meme that's online where that guy's digging for gold. And then he gives up and the other guy keeps going. And you see the line there. It's right there. But that's how I felt. You know, I mean, people know, I think people, most people know my story where it's a truck driver and stuff like that.

And, you know, like there were days that you feel like it's just not going to happen. It's a grind, bro. And I mean, I'm talking like straight up in my truck crying because I wanted it so big. bad and it just felt like it was so far away. But then there was days that I'm like, I'm right there. I can feel it. I can taste it. And I remember hitting a certain point. I don't remember exactly when or what was going on. But I remember hitting a certain point. And I'm driving around my truck. And it was like in my mind's eye was this image of me being in a dark room, a dark cave. You know, but and there was a light though. It was like a tunnel. And there was a light at the end of

time. It was like, there's actually a light at the end of tunnel. I'm like, it was like this thing that just motivated me. And it was like almost every day I had this vision in my head of this light at the end of the time. Like for the first time I actually see light. And I just started envisioning it getting bigger and bigger and stuff. And that kept me going for another year or two. Because it was a process.

But, you know, hang on. We got a phone call going here. What is that? No, it's, it's, I forgot to put my phone on. Do not disturb, which means that it started ringing on my computer. You're lucky you're the boss, Tony. I make the rules around here. Don't anybody else have phone calls during this conversation

or else you're all fired, okay? Also, I want to say your pastor spits some fire, bro, because you told me something else. I thought you were going to bring up what you had texted me that day where he's pretty much telling you your path isn't supposed to be dictated by another man. You know, every man has his own path and his own thing. Right.

So that also resonated with me because, again, we're in this space community, whatever you want to call it, quote unquote. Yeah. Where you're worried about what your peers is saying or what the, what other people are commenting and this and that. It's like, no,

don't even worry about that. And that's extra noise because your path isn't going to be dictated by another man. He has his own path. You have your own path. And if you stick to it and you do it, if you do things correctly, yeah, you'll eventually get someone.

The thing is we get so consumed with people that are successful. And we're like, I want that. instead of looking at what our success is going to be. It's going to be different than that person. You got your own story. You got your own story to build. And I think that's with anything in life.

And that was another thing that resonated with me too. And just let me know that, man, I can block out the outside noise. Who cares? Who cares what anybody's saying if I'm in the path that I'm supposed to be on? And I feel like I am, who cares if I say whatever about whatever topics and somebody doesn't like it? They have nothing to do with me and in my path. And I think we have to know that with anything that we're chasing in life.

And if we feel like we're going down that calling that we're supposed to be on, there's no reason for us to get caught up in that extra tertiary, you know, ridiculousness. And I've seen the people that are very successful. They want other people to be successful. They're willing to help those people be successful. There's no jealousy there. And they know that their path is completely different than everybody else. They're building, they're carving their own way through life.

And I think once you realize that, man, you can just, you can let all the other stuff go. If anything, it's just funny at that point. It's like, what doesn't affect me the same way it used to? Yeah. Yeah. And you said something interesting about the light at the end of the tunnel, right? And envisioning yourself going into this other reality. And I just read John, right, the Gospel of John.

and the first verses where he's talking about the Word of God and the Logos and how it is God and it becomes flesh and blood and all that. It's interesting because there are certain secret societies and certain groups who meditate upon those first few lines of the Gospel of John. And they do it in order to, and again, this is what the literature says, that they're able to enter the text. They're able to enter the text and interact with the biblical people inside that story. So there are stories of these people interacting with Jesus, like going in and seeing it and confirming his existence. So, because I don't we're going to be talking about some interdimensional stuff today too. And I think that's a perfect, you know, envisioning yourself going into really anything, but in specific, the Bible, which is what we're going to be talking about today too and some stories. But going into these other dimensions and I believe I just did this, this Christ.

crazy interview the other day where we were talking about geometries to access intermediary beings. And he was talking about a certain chaos magician who used his stories and books to take the reader's consciousness and drop them off in other realities. Right. So when you're reading a certain book where you kind of, you get into this flow state where you're just reading it and going on, well, there's a certain technique that these, that certain occultists use, called the cut-up method, where they're able to put you in a different state of mind

as you're reading these texts and you don't realize that your conscience is being transported to these other realms and kind of sort of fighting fights of demonic entities on the other side for them. So to your point there, and you know I've talked about a lot of the books that we read, because I buy a lot of books that are occult in nature or from occultists or whatever else, And there are times, like sometimes you've got to put that book down and pray or pray over the book. You know, I just bought a book recently yesterday. Before I brought it in the house, I was like, all right, like, I'm not going to succumb to this,

but I want it for historical purposes and understand, you know, what's going on in these texts and how these people operate because if I'm coming from a different angle, I like to know what someone else is thinking and the weapons that they're using against me. So I can do that from my aspect. I don't know how strong everybody is to do that. I don't necessarily suggest that for everybody. But I think you're right that there are books that are written in a way that they're trying to transport your consciousness off of the pages like into somewhere else where demonic entities can interact with you and attack you. Man, that's wild.

That's sorcery. There's this, well, literally. Well, again, grammar, grimo, like, that's connected. That's where the word grammar comes from from a book of spells. I mean, that's etymology. and there's something there's a this stood out to me

there's a string of words that you can either read or say to somebody that will unravel somebody that will quite literally destroy them mentally physically whatever that is

but there's a string of words that will destroy you destroy you it's just what words are they or are they even words right? They could be noises for all we know

you know so it is an interesting concept because we're all reading constantly even if it's not like a cult literature or anything like that, we're reading stuff on the internet, people's comments or whatever it is.

And you're constantly interacting with things that people are putting out that are written. So reality itself, I mean, almost all major religions are based off text. So writing is powerful. Writing does have a powerful effect. And then when you add pictures onto that, it blows it up even more.

Because as a kid, right, you flip through the pages. you look at the pictures, you're not looking at the text. So there's been also, speaking of meditative, and I was trying to find the name for it because it's got a certain name where you enter the biblical text through a sort of meditation. But the Rothschilds, there's this book that I stumbled across, the Rothschild's canticles where it is a book of plates. And it's a book on how to you meditate on it.

So they're essentially mandolas that you're able to look at and meditate. And you're able to enter these mandolas. And it's all about becoming one with God. What was the book called? Rothschilds, like the Rothschild family, canticles. Canticles. And it's a book on prayers. And it also has pictures, illuminated.

It's like an illuminated manuscript. I've seen it before. It's a red book. And it's interesting because it's a red book because Carl Young, Carl Young's read book was all about that. about writing to be able to interact with this other reality, this other dimension. And he went insane. Well, it also plays into...

Is this book, like, I don't know. It's at Yale. I found it already. Like, it's online. Is it like something like people are going to, like, get hypnotized by it when they read it? Or anything like that? Anything crazy? Because if not, I'm just going to put the link in the description for people.

Tony? I mean, I already gave the name. now, they could find it. If I found it, they could find it. If Google it, it's at Yale, Yale, Skoll and Bones. Right, right? I don't believe any of that stuff, by the way. You don't believe any of that stuff? I'm kidding.

Listen, dude, we're talking about that show 30 coins. It's about talismans, which we're going to get into today too. Right. The 30 coins that Judas gave up Jesus for. And in this show, they're finding those coins. It's almost like, right? We grew up with Dragon Balls. What's Dragon Balls? You collect all the Dragon Balls.

And you're able to summon this entity. this gin that's able to give you a wish and give you everything that you desire. Right. You know what I'm saying? So that particular book, I believe I have a personal opinion that Yale has all the dragon balls. They have all the coolest stuff and it's got to do with some sort of relic type, you know? Yeah, for sure. For power.

And I also think the Smithsonian's got off-site places that they keep a lot of things too. And they got all the giant bones, dude. Absolutely. Is this like only one copy of this book? Yeah. Wow. So you can find scanned copies again. Yeah.

That's what it looks like. Oh, dude, I forgot. I completely forgot. Sorry. There's also how to create monstrous races in that book somewhere, too. We're talking about dogmen. So that's got something to do on how to be. There's like dogmen in the.

I'm seeing it right here. On the sides there, you'll see like the little pictures. So it's something about because. Again, the Rothschilds take it for whatever that's worth. But it's about, in my opinion, I think that these people use these sort of things to acquire power. What language is this in? I'm not 100%.

It's like in some certain script. It might be Latin, but I'm not 100% on that. Don't, don't quote on that. They got an image of a crucifixion in here. I don't know if that's supposed to be Jesus or somebody else. Now, the interesting thing about the Rothschilds, and I think I was talking to you about this yesterday, about how the Rothschilds are not Jewish.

Oh, yeah. From the lineage of anything Jewish. They're actually from the Khazarian mafia, the Khazarians and the Khazarians. I think you can say that on YouTube, dude. You can. So the Khazarians were a nomadic bunch of tribes over in the Middle East. And during this time, they were taking over all these lanes or taking over the other tribes. So they were building their empire.

But they needed a religion to umbrella the country under. So they brought it across three different religions. They brought across Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Well, they realize if they pick Islam or Christianity, they'd be fighting each other, fighting the other. So they picked Judaism and integrated within Judaism to the point that the Rothschilds and all these big figureheads that you see that are Jewish or not actually Jewish. They come from a Qazarian line, which is actually from a Nephilim line that is considered part of the 13 bloodlines. So this is what their goal is is to push this nephalum bloodline to the forefront. But they hide behind this Jewish moniker.

And that's why people are throwing darts at the wrong people whenever they say, this person's doing this, this person's doing this or this race is doing this. They don't really know behind the scenes what's been activated from the beginning. So you've got that going on. So when you're talking about the text here, where did it really come from? Where, you know what I mean? Like, how long has it been passed down through the bloodlines? How long ago?

Did this start with like the bloodline of ISIS or Ishtar that far back from this fallen angel, these fallen angel bloodlines and it's been passed down through these different generations? One thing I always tell people is the big bad guys that you see are just the frontmen. They're always the front men. It's kind of like the guys that are. the richest in the world, they're not really the richest in the world. They're just the people that they put out there to say, this guy is the richest in the world. They're probably not even close to the richest in the world. The families that are the richest in the world are trillionaires and you'll

never hear their names. So it works in the same operative form with these nepholum bloodlines. And that's what you have to look at. This is where it comes from all the way from before the deluge to after, and which we're going to get into today, one big Nephulam, Goliath, and we're going to talk about this. Wait, Goliath was a Nephulam? No way. And we're going to talk about this alchemical story of David and Goliath. And Juan and I have talked about this before, but we're talking about destiny. And it really made me think about David and his destiny and like what he was supposed to bring.

It wasn't just that David was supposed to be the king over Israel. He was through his bloodline, Yeshua or Jesus was coming from that bloodline. That's part of what David's destiny was. And we're talking about Goliath being a Nephilim. And we're going to start in 1st Samuel with Goliath. We're going to talk about what Goliath was. We're going to break down David coming at Goliath. We're going to talk about the stones, which Juan and I have a lot about the stones.

We're going to talk about very fantastical gear that Goliath had, fantastical gear that King Saul had as well during this whole story. This is a wild, wild story when you're breaking it down from an aspect of what the Hebrew words actually meant and when you're looking at it from an alchemical lens because it's really interesting how that operates. But I'm just going to just paint a picture for anybody out there that has no clue who Goliath is. So you got 1st Samuel 17 and then went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines named Goliath of Gath, whose height was six cubits in a span. Now, in the Masoretic text, which is like the original Hebrew, the six cubits in a span is roughly nine feet six inches.

Now, when the Septuagint came along later, the Septuagint tried to repurpose that and say that he was only six feet six inches tall, which just isn't true. When you're taking it from the original Hebrew, he was close to 10 feet tall. So we do know that. he had a helmet of brass upon his head and he was arm with a coat of mail and the weight of the coat was 5,000 shekels of brass. So he had a crazy smorgasbord of military equipment. His head, the helmet was 30 pounds. So he literally had 30 pounds on his head. So you're not telling me that six feet, six inches tall, not unless there's a thick boy that he's rocking.

Like, you're just not putting out in your head and it's like a hat. And if you are putting on your head, you're definitely not going to be the mighty warrior that they're claiming you to be. Ain't nobody. Right. Unless his neck is like, bha, you know? Right. But it gets crazier because we were just talking about his chain mail, 150 pounds. It's like putting a small person, a homunculus on your body and walking out to war.

He's going out to war with that. and he had his grieves, which for lack of better word, it was like soccer shin guards. So we're also made of bronze. They were super strong. So his spear was like a weaver's beam. It weighed 600 shekels of iron. And we're talking about just the tip of it was like 30 pounds.

So that's not even considering the entire thing. So he's got 30 pounds in his hand as well. So he's walking out there, calling these guys out. All of the Israelites right there. He stood and cried out into the armies of Israel and said to them, why are ye come out to see your battle in a ray? I am not a Philistine and ye servants to Saul. Choose you a man for you and let him come down to me.

He's able to fight with me and to kill me, then we will be your servants. but if I prevail against him and kill him, then ye shall be our servants and serve us. So he's outside yapping. He's like, bring somebody to me. They're not even going to attack army to army. He's like, you know what, I'll come by myself. And in those days, it's very normal. You take the head of one army, a head of another army.

If they're going to go at it, whoever wins, you know, it saves a lot of bloodshed and death. I say, okay, if we lose, yeah, we'll be your slaves and, you know, we'll just work for you or whatever. A lot of those soldiers will be like, I would just be soldiers for the other arm. You don't care. It's like working for a job that you don't really like anyway. You're like, well, maybe that job is better. Maybe if our awful boss loses.

I always want to work for Nephilim. I think there's a company called Nephlem Incorporated. Is that? I think I might be. Are you serious? I think so. Really, I got to look this out. Like Nephlem.

Let's look this up. Am I keyboard going to sleep mode? There we go. Nephlem Incorporated. Yeah, Nephlam Incorporated. From like Africa. or something like that. So shout out to those guys. Wow. Wow. Neflem Incorporated. That's it. Belize.

Which is interesting. In Belize? Yeah. We just we just did a show on Belize. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Nephlin coming out of the sky there. Yeah. So I looked that up. I think it was either Nephlem technology or something like that where it's interesting. And I want to also say that. Pause. There's way more. Nephlem Inc. in Idaho. Neflem Inc. in Delaware. Neflem Inc. New York. Bay Area Nephlam in California. Neflum, game studios in Florida. Nephlam Holding Group in New York. Nephlam Enterprises in Nevada. Nephlam Group in California. Nephlam game

studios in Oregon. That's why. They're not even hiding anymore, bro. They're not even they're just like the game studios, man. They're putting Neflam in our games, man. And that's true. So Juan and I did a show almost a year ago. where we were talking about tying in ancient technology in Nephlem, and we actually talked about now, Nephlem now, and there are so many video games where there's Nephilim lore, and it's spoken of as Nephilim or Nephilim in these video games, and this has been going on for like 20 years,

and nobody really knows. They just thought it was a cool thing, like, oh, I mean, these are these cool hybridized, you know, fallen entities or Ananaki, you know, hybridized beings, and they don't realize, like, this is a real thing. These are the products of a fallen entities having sex with the daughters of men and creating these things. But now you're playing as them in video games because they'll be the star characters. Yeah. And I want to add that, right, the way I look at the Bible,

I am aware of all of its layers because it is an interdimensional text. I do 100% believe that. And I believe that because it's got its alchemical perspective. There's seven different ways, right, the seven different seals that you can interpret something. I think alchemically is one. And you have literalists, because I've been diving into Hoven, and he's like a Genesis creationist where it's 100% literal 6,000 years, and this is how he did it, which I understand that. But alchemists took it during the medieval times, and they were like, this is an encoded text.

This is a magical text. The book of Genesis, for example, is showing you how to create another reality, right? The first chapters. And there was entire, like the Paracelsus, the famous alchemist, he was writing commentary. And they were going back and forth with the church as to like, hey, God created something out of nothing. I don't know. Well, he transmuted it. So they're like, they're arguing about the, right, getting lost in the sauce, arguing about the nitty, gritty details.

But I just want to say that we're interpreting it from that these were real historically. These were real people. This is real stuff that they were using because you can have people. Those were allegories. That's another interpretation of it. You can look at it alchemically. Like, you know, the puk stones and all that stuff we're going to talk about. So I just want to say that we're aware that there are other interpretations of these texts.

You know, we get those people comments. It's your point. And this is just me plugging the new podcast that's going to be coming out called Free the Rabbits under Merkel Media. But one of the things I like to say is deeper like Bereans. So I love the Berean standard version of the Bible. I think it's one of the best versions the Bible has been put out. I think they translate from the Kowin Greek and the Hebrew the best, even better than the King James. I know it's blaspheming to some people, but I honestly believe it.

I've compared it to the King James version where there's some verses will be almost completely different. And then I go look up the Hebrew or the Greek meaning of it. That's right. Like that's pulled from the actual Hebrew or Greek words. It's an amazing version of scripture, but it's pulled from actually the Bereans or the inhabitants of Berea. and they're actually talked about in book of Acts chapter 17 verse 11. So Paul and Silas preached at Berea and they went to the inhabitants and they talked about them. They said that the Bereans received the word with all readiness of mind and searched the scriptures daily where those things were so. So like the Bereans are known for going deep. Like they love to really go deep on what the actual meanings of the words mean. And you were just talking about that in being able to look at the, a scripture in a way that not only you're looking at it from a literal point of view, but also a metaphorical point of view to knowing how to know when that's happening. Because it's not

always literal and it's not always metaphorical. Sometimes it can be both at the same time. Man, Jesus was the master like triple entendres. If you ever read some of the stuff he's saying, there's like five layers to it. He meant like five different things at once. And it's like the most simple verse where it's seven words. I'll read it and like, oh man, he's saying like, you know, five different things at once. So, and I think that's how we have to look at the Bible is in layers when you're looking at it. Even when we're talking about, and we're going to go into tons of layers today with the story of David and Goliath because there's a lot of it.

But you've got to start looking at the Bible that way that, yes, it's literal, but it's also metaphorical and sometimes it's at the same time and sometimes it's separate. And it's making me think of Philip K. Dick, where in the divine invasion, there is a Bible that they have. It's a holographic Bible. And they're able to lay the Bible out holographically and they're able to stack it on top of each other. And they're able to see all these different connections. And they're able to essentially look within the text itself. And I believe in the divine invasion, it's banned because they didn't want people to figure out these connections. So if you're able to, imagine if you were able to lay the project outwards, the Bible,

and some holographic weird, like in a room or something holographically, and able to just lay it on top of each other and just really dig deeper into the text. I mean, that would be a game changer. So in this story, they're like, yeah, we need to ban that because we can't have people figuring out the truth. We're going to serve the truth to them. You know, we're going to push our narrative. And I'm wondering, are the Bereans, does that have anything to do with hyperborea?

Not that I know of. I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, it could. It's a giant theater, bro. Yeah, exactly. So it's very possible. I plan on doing some deep dives on the actual Bereans because there's two different versions of the Bereans. You got the original Bereans from Axe, which were from Berea. But then you've got a group that came along in the 1770s who called themselves the Bereans.

They were trying to model themselves after the original Bereans. But the only issue I have with them, some of, some of the. their theology, I personally don't buy. Like, it's, it's, it's not, it doesn't match up with exactly what the text says. Now, the Berean Standard Bible actually was pretty recently put together in the past, like, you know, I think eight to 10 years. So this was like guys that went out and were like, you know what, these versions of the Bible that are out there, they're not really pulling from the Hebrew and the Greek, you know,

specifically. So they took all the versions of the Bible. They sat down with the actual text and put this together. which is fascinating to me, which I love seeing it in that way. And then when I personally go and match it up with the Hebrew and Greek, it literally lines up. Like way more in tune with what those versions are saying

than any of the other versions out there, even the King James. Fascinating. Keep it going. So we've got David showing up here. All these men are scared. They're looking at Goliath, what's going on. and we're at verse 24. And all the men of Israel, when they saw the man fled from him and were sore afraid, the men of Israel said, have you seen this man that has come up? Surely to defy Israel is he come up,

and it shall be that the man who killeth him, the king will enrich him with great riches and will give him his daughter and make his father's house free in Israel. And David spake to the men that stood by him saying, what shall be done to the man that killed this Philistine and take away the reproach from Israel? Who is this uncircised Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God? And the people answered him after the man are saying, so shall it be done to the man that killeth him. So David's walking up. He's actually supposed to be taking care of the sheep or goats or whatever. And he walks up there. He ends up really pissing his brother off because his brother's part of these men.

He's like, man, you need to get back to work. What are you doing? Because David's a young shepherd boy. He's not like a big brawny guy, like a grown man like that. he's, you know, young. But he and his, you know, and probably good that he was naive. He's like, I don't understand why everybody's scared. Like, take this guy out.

Like, if God's with you, why are we not taking this guy out? So David offers to do it. He sees all these grown men scared, probably thousands at that because you're looking at two, you know, warring factions lining up, probably opposite each other. And he decides that, you know, he's going to go do that. So he goes to Saul because Saul is got, he has to bless you to go do it. So Saul's the king at this point. So he goes to Saul and Saul is going to give him his armor to go out in.

David doesn't he have armor. He's not a soldier. So he goes to get his armor. And in the king James it says, and Saul armed David with his armor and he put a helmet of brass on his head. And he also armed him with a coat of mail. Verse 39 and David girded his sword upon his armor and he has saved to go for he had not proved it. David said to Saul, I cannot go with these, for I have not proved them, and David put them off him. So when I grew up, I always heard the story of this, and the story

was David was a small young shepherd boy. Saul gave him the armor. It couldn't fit. So David's, I can't move around in these. We've even seen the little like depictions, drawings as a kid, where he's not fitting in it. And he's like, I can't do this or whatever. I don't think that's what happened. I actually don't think that's what happened at all. And the more that I dug into it, I realized that there's more going on here and really proves the power of God more

when you understand the text. So I'm reading the Berean. Then saw-clothed David in his own tunic. So we're talking about a tunic, a shirt, like chain mail, tunic, whatever. So even if our shirt's a little big, it's not, it'd pale you like a giant set of armor, right? He did put a bronze hem on his head and then dressed him in armor.

So we've got armor that comes on over the tunic. So we've got that disparity there a little bit. David strapped a sword over the tunic and tried to walk. He was not accustomed to them. I cannot walk in these. I'm not accustomed to them. So David took them off. The accustomed, though, is not because it didn't fit.

Now, we dig into what armor means in the Hebrew. It's Maddow, M-A-W, which is also a derivative of Madda. which is knowledge, thought, or science. So now we're starting to look at this armor a little differently. Was this a piece of technology? It gets even crazier. So we've got Shlomo Yichakki, who was by Rashi, and he was born February 22nd of 1040.

He was a rabbi who studied the text deeply. He went deep with, you know, the Talmud, all that, all the exegesis texts, like the deep studies of the Hebrew. And he said, and he was also said to be a descendant of King David. So this is after Jesus, we're like 1040. He supposedly came from the line of David. So he had an investment to look into this probably a little bit deeper than most people. So he comes out and he digging into the text. and he said that when David tried on Saul's armor, it miraculously changed size and fitted him

rather than being too large. That's why in the text when you read it in the Hebrew, it's saying that it fit on David. David's not saying that he doesn't want to wear the armor because it doesn't fit. He's saying, I haven't proved this armor. I don't know this armor and God's more powerful than me putting on this piece of technology to go fight. the giant, which is even crazier when you dig it into the fact that the armor fit. It was a magical for lack of better word piece of armor that Saul gave him. Like, why wouldn't the king of Israel have a magical piece of armor?

Of course he would back in those days. If it's available, he's got it. He's got it. So he gives him that piece of armor. And David's like, no, I don't want to wear it. That's bold, man. That's some balls. He's like, no, I don't need it.

I'm going to do what God wants. me do because God's telling me I don't need this armor to go face this giant. It's interesting because you and I, we shared some notes, but not like a lot. And you're making me the knowledge, right? So the other, you said the other word for it was knowledge? Yes, knowledge, science were two words that that derivative of Madda, because they both track as the same word, means knowledge or science. Which is crazy. When you're looking at in the Hebrew, here's this word for armor that. actually means knowledge or science. That's wild because Solomon asked for what?

Knowledge. So overall. For over everything. And King Solomon is known as, again, tied to the Freemasons, tied to the Templars, tied to all these secret societies that see him as one of the greatest alchemists. He was also, in my belief, I think he was messing around in other dimensions. He was also controlling demonic entities and doing all this other stuff. We'll get to that. We used to trap them.

Exactly, he used to trap them. And when he asked for God, from God knowledge, maybe he was asking God for some piece of technology and not, you know, it says knowledge, but it actually means something else. So I'm wondering, I don't know if you looked into what, when Solomon asked for the knowledge of all animals and plants, you have the mineral and the animal kingdom in there as well,

which is part of alchemy. So, and mind you that King David, which will eventually get into it, I see it there stones. He passed down the Pook stone to Solomon. Not the poop stone. No, no. It's P-U-K, but it's pronounced poop.

Pook. I nipped that right in the butt. Yeah. The Pook stone. So we always say what the puk is going on, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's interesting. I'm just making all these connections and we'll get into it, bro. Yeah.

So now we're to the point where David's like, I don't need this piece of technology. We're looking at it in the Hebrew in the text, And we're looking at Rabbi Rashi, who is supposedly from the bloodline of David, who's done the deep dives in the Talmud to say, no, it's basically saying it fit. That's a misrepresentation for what that means. You know, in the King James, it says it wasn't proved. Number said didn't fit. He just didn't prove it.

He didn't approve it. It's basically what that means. So David's like, okay, I'm going to go and get these stones. God's telling him to go do it. So he takes his staff in his hand. This is the verse 40 and shows him five smooth stones out of the brook and put them in a shepherd's bag, which he had even in a script. And his sling was in his hand and he drew near to the Philistine. So here in this verse, the word stone is abidim in the Hebrew.

It happens 41 occurrences in the Bible. And it just means stone. Just means stone. It doesn't sound exciting for everybody listening yet. But in this verse, it just means stone. That's it. It's just a stone, and that's where we're going to go with that. So, verse 41, and the Philistine came on and drew near unto David, and the man that bared the shield went before him.

Verse 42. And when the Philistine looked about and saw David, he disdained him for he was but a youth, ruddy, and fair of countenance. So I've heard some theologians try to make the, because they've done the deep dives and they realized that the armor fit from earlier. They've tried to, I've actually read some crazy studies where they thought that Davey was actually grown and he could fit the armor. It's why that Saul wouldn't have given him armor if he didn't, if he didn't think that it fit. I don't agree with that. We're looking dead on the verse where he said he was but a youth ruddy and fair of countenance. So he's definitely not a grown man.

And Saul was also involved with some occultic people too. Absolutely. Which are going to get into Saul. It's not just some regular guy that's like, hey, yes, I'm. I'm royalty. Here's this regular armor. You know, he's messing around with some people who had some otherworldly knowledge that he was involved in, so that he was involved with, which is an important thing to also point out. So he could have given him some weird. And that's what I love about the Bible. It's such a crate, there's so many crazy stories within it. And it's a lot

more interesting than people give it credit to be. And here you are. You can literally extract hours and hours of information from just these simple lines of text. You know what I'm saying? Like you're painting a whole different story. It's almost like a like a sci-fi epic. What's next? Light sabers. Like, well, we're getting there.

Yeah, we're getting. That's next. Yeah, so verse 43 and the Philistine said it in David, am I a dog that comes to me with staves or sticks? And the Philistine cursed David by his gods. So he's basically like, looking, man, what are you coming? Like, because he's walking up with a staff. We heard it earlier in the text.

So all he sees is the staff right now. He's probably not paying attention to the rock and the slings. and all that. Then David said, The Philistine now comes to me with the sword and with the spear and with the shield,

but I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, who now has to fight. So David's pretty confident at this point. Went picked up some

real confident. He just turned down some mythical, magical armor that he could have worn that technology, however you want to say it, alchemically,

fit him perfectly that wasn't supposed to, just shrunk down to fit his size. And he said, no, I don't need this. It's wild to think about.

To me, that makes it even crazier to me. The fact that he had some piece of technology that... Because if this is real, like, how many people would be like, thanks? Right. And he's like, no, I'm good. I'm good. So this is where it's going to get really, really interesting. And I know that Juan's going to go on some crazy tangents here, which I'm going to love.

And this is where the stone... I'm ready, but I'm cut up. The stone comes into place. So verse 48. nine and David put his hand in his bag and took Vince a stone and slaying it and smoked the Philistine in his forehead that the stone sunk into his forehead and he fell upon his face to the earth. The word for stone in the Hebrew there is different. Abinem was earlier. When he picked it up, it just meant stone. Now it's Eben, E. B, E.E.N. And this is a host of different meanings that

Eben can have. Eben breaks down into sapphire, which people derive from the word sapphire. One of the main structured meanings that it means is consecrated. This was a consecrated stone at this point. This stone was in, in booed with power from God. It was transmuted. Or now chemical words, transmuted, it changed. In that moment, whether he pulled it from the brook and it changed when he had it or however but it morphed it changed into something different this is in the Hebrew the stone is different now it's not the same stone it's a completely different object at this point which goes back to this idea of rejection of what the king gave him you know and whether he knew that or not it's let's just say he didn't know it shows in that moment so much faith on his part that God's got him. And then to see that as how you're talking about it, it's like the stone, it's like God, it makes me wonder, this is what I'm trying to say. It makes me wonder what could have happened if he said, thanks. Because, because him walking on that faith, then allowed God to flex and say, you didn't need that because watch what I do. Whether when he picked it up,

or if it's in midair and, you know, in my cartoon mind, I'm thinking Zeus, you know, zap and it's just like all of a sudden it changes and it's like a boulder smacks in the face. The rejected stone becomes the cornerstone. Cornerstone, which we're going to get into those verses today too. And that cornerstone is also ebbin. It also stands for ebbin. That stone in the cornerstone is ebbin.

And I'm about to throw you the baton hardcore here. The oop to the layout. The ebbin also stands for the firestone. It is also worded as the firestone which in Ezekiel 28, 14, and 16 speaks of, you were anointed as the guardian chair before I had ordained you. You were on the holy mountain of God. You walked him on the firestone. He's talking about Lucifer.

This is before he got kicked out. By the vastness of your trade, that's when he was trading with people in old earth. And I've done an episode on that already. You were filled with violence and you sin. So I just drove you in disgrace from the mountain of God. And I banished you, old guardian cherub from among the firestones. It's the same stone that David now has in his sling. It's the same word.

It's the, he's got a firestone with him. And what is that firestone? What is that regular stone? Abinem changed to Eben to this firestone, this consecrated firestone that he took Dave Glyeth out with. And by the way, there is thought that Nephilim, and people will understand this terminology in different occultic realms, the third eye or the penial gland, which I think we all, all have, and I think they try to dumb us away from that. But the penial gland, it said that Nephilim used that as a psionic weapon to where they could disrupt your brain when you're in battle, to where you don't know where you're at and you feel like you're losing your mind. They're

able to do that because they could psychically knock you out, almost like with a psychic bomb. Where did he hit him? In the middle of his forehead where the pineal glands out till it sunk into his head. How was a regular stone sinking into his head? It wasn't a regular stone anymore. It was a firestone. It was something completely different. It transmuted into this whole other thing. That's why he didn't wear the arbor. Wow. Wow. You answered my question. I was going to ask you if it says exactly where it hit him because it hit him where the third eye is essentially. Yes. Yeah. And it's interesting because, right, we talk about, and you guys are in for a treat, not a lot of people know this about me. but I was actually raised Pentecostal Christian. You said that in my show already. Everybody knows that. Anyways, I don't talk about it a lot. But an interesting part of all, because I've always talked about this,

where when the Holy Spirit is in the house, you can feel it, right? It's like, it's in the air. It's something about it. And it's interesting because Paracelsus talked about the Holy Spirit, perhaps being that prima materia that helped God. Because, right, in the gospel of Johnny talks about he was with God at the beginning. So he's talking about the Holy Spirit being present when everything is being created. And let's say that Genesis is for a second alchemical.

And it's about the creation of a universe, the creation of a minotis, moondis is what they call it, a small world, essentially. And that God, the Holy Spirit was there. Well, the Holy Spirit, Paracelsus, argued that that was the prima materia, which the prima materia is something that you need in order to achieve the Magnum Opus. and one of the Magnumopi is the Philosopher's Stone, the Firestone. You have the red stone and you have the white stone. One is used to make gold, the other one's used to make silver. There's various things you can do, but think about that, right? If the Holy Spirit helped David out, let's say as soon as he slung it,

he was able to conduct this transmutation through the use of the Holy Spirit because God was there to help him, it would make sense that as soon as it was going to hit him, maybe it did blow up, right? And it like doubled in size or whatever. That would be dope. But that would you think, if that actually happened to, it would have made the text, right? Like it became a boulder and smashed his head off. Yeah, yeah, it took his head off. But think about it because we're talking about the Nephilim and all that stuff.

And if we follow the lineage back, the knowledge of alchemy came from the Nephlin. And I'm just thinking outside the box here where, let's say the Nephilim did teach this too, right? And we know that the Noah and his lineage was involved with alchemy and all this stuff. And that's why they were able to live for so long because they had the elixir of life. Let's say that they also use that. Even if it came from Nephilim, which are darker entities, demonic in nature, who's to say that the good guys weren't also using that technology for their own purposes? I've always argued that Adam and his lineage always,

already had this version of technology that what the fallen entities taught and what the Nephilim taught was the corruption of the original connection that we had with God. Like a repackaging of something. Absolutely. And I think a lot of people, when they hear the word alchemy, they automatically think bad things. They automatically think a cult and they think that it's something. I don't necessarily use it that way because to me it's just an overarching term. It's the manipulation of matter and reality. That's the way I see.

Which I think that the guys of old Methuselah, Noah, Adam, all these guys could use that. They knew how to. I mean, we even know from the book of Jubilees, and this is one of the apocryphal books, that when Adam sinned, that God cut off the mouths of the animal kind and anything that Adam could talk to anymore. I don't think it was necessarily them using their mouths to talk. I think it was a telepathy that was cut off at that point where we were no longer able to have those conversations with animal kind anymore. Think about whales. You know whales have one of the most extensive vernaculars in the world.

They have a bigger lexicon than we do. Bro, that's why. And somebody told me this on my show. I don't know if it was Justin from Crypters of the Corn, but there was somebody on my show that told me. What show? Cryptos of the corn. Okay.

It could have been after the fact, or maybe it was a private conversation, where the first animals created in Genesis were the whales, depending on which translation you read. Okay, and that's interesting because it connects to a whole bunch of other stuff, but you're talking about whales. They just recently came out with some AI that you can talk to whales telepathically thousand miles away. And it's interesting that in the movie Avatar,

they were doing what to the whales? They were extracting this sort of elixir of life thing where it would extend people's lives and it was worth a crazy amount of money. They were extracting it from the whales? From the whale's brain. Have you ever watched the new avatar? No. Anyway, so,

spoiler for those people. What's a movie? The whales in that movie have their own religion, their own philosophy, and they talk and they're like super spiritual creatures. And I'm like, these people are reading these texts. They're reading the same thing that we're reading because like, and the first animals that God made. were the whales. And when you look at the Bible, like for me, and look at all these names for the philosopher's something, there's like at least 15 names for the philosopher. There's got a whole bunch of names. To me, when I got into this sort of realm of topics, I'm like, where can I

connect alchemy in the Bible, like religiously, right? Because it doesn't take away from the Bible. It doesn't mean anything. It's just another layer for you. you to be able to look at the Bible. So when I first, I googled, like, out of knowing, I'm like, alchemy in the Bible. And then I came across Raphael Patai, who I'm saying, right, one of his article, biblical figures, biblical figures as alchemist. And I'm reading this, this journal, his paper, and it's blowing me away, because then I'm able to take that as a base and then go deeper. I was telling you like, how about this guy, Job, alchemist, you know, Gideon, Alchemist, like, all these guys. And then come to find out.

I'm translating other texts where it's like, oh, yeah, there's a bunch of commentaries on the book of Genesis. And I was like, well, why is that? Well, because they thought it was about creating a different reality. And I'm like, the Bible, I think, has been stripped away from a lot of the esoteric and occult knowledge and not the bad occult stuff. And I think it's done on purpose because the powers that be don't want us to have access to a lot of these. this technology. The supernatural has been ripped away from the Bible. And you and I talk about that all the time, Tony.

And I think that was designed by the church when they first got in there because once they taught people that they had to go through people to get to God, even if it's a brokerage of what the text means. Think about this. You know, there will be people that listen to this episode and instantly get angry. And you know why they'll get angry? Because somebody on a pulpit or somebody told them what the text meant. They didn't look into it for themselves.

You know, we're not even saying that this is it. We're just saying this is a idea of what these texts could mean because- Because of the actual translations of these texts and the deeper meaning of it. Also, when you said a cult for the people out there, a cult just means hidden, by the way. It doesn't mean a negative thing necessarily. We do use it as a negative thing. Can I call me a saneist, probably from saying? Probably.

Probably. There'll be a comment or two in there. It happens. Yeah. But I know Joel's in the zone When you start seeing that vein right here Start to pop out So it's like when this vein starts popping

He's hitting the zone When he's at the tip of the zone The vein right here starts popping And that that one stays until he's done And so he's not done yet So you just let him rock All right cool I'm using that as like

I'm like oh it's starting down here And it's like boom And then it comes back all right I'm good I call it the Jolometer Okay, cool I like it I like it

We were talking about the cornerstone. You brought that up. And we know that in the Bible from a metaphorical angle that the cornerstone represents Jesus. He's the cornerstone of the church. It's the cornerstone of our beliefs. It's what Yesha was put here on this earth to do. By the way, we talked about this early. It came through the bloodline of David. So you've got this, you know, shepherd boy who's going out here fighting this giant with the power of God. At the time, you probably didn't even know his bloodline was going to have Jesus come out of it. But these are these strong characters that were the precursors. to Jesus Christ coming to us.

But Psalm 11822, the stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone. Again, the stone is ebbin, the firestone. It represents this powerful consecrated stone. So when you're talking about Yeshua and Jesus, he's represented as that. He is the power stone or like you like to say the philosopher's stone. He is the essence of what this entire universe or multiverses for people that like to go down that road is built on. It is. He is the essence of a.

the Holy Spirit, the Trinity, it's all that, and it says it in the text. But you can go deeper because there's tons of verses that talk about the cornerstone. We know that first Peter 2, 7 through 8, which we talked about earlier, Peter means stone, which that's another one for you, because, and he was Jesus's, you know, favorite, basically. Like, that was, that was, you know, Jesus's guy was Peter. And Peter was probably one of the most rugged, ridiculous disciples of Jesus. He denied him three times. He's chopping dudes' ears off. He's a wild dude.

You don't die for you. And then Jesus was like, would you really? Right. You sure about that? You sure about that? So this, though, is in the New Testament. So the stone is going to come from a different word, lithos, in the Coine Greek, which means substance. So now we're still going to this changing, this firestone, this powerful stone.

this powerful substance, its representation of Jesus, what Jesus is. That's what, if you want to say that the bloodline of Yeshua always had metaphorical instances that represented Jesus, what better than David with a transmuted firestone that represented the very essence of Jesus? Well, it's interesting because, again, I wore this shirt for a reason, okay? I'm not saying it's homunculus, but there's a good chance it might be humongous. Just check this out. One of the things about the substance, I'm just thinking about Simon Magus, who's like, listen, guys, I want some of whatever you got. Let me buy it off of you.

And maybe Simon Magus thought that the Holy Spirit or whatever it was was a sort of substance. And that maybe these guys were running around in some circles that had access to technology or something. And maybe that's where that comes from. because Simon Magus, right, the follower of all heresies, where we get magician, MAGA, all that stuff from that, right? Whoops. Maga means witch and Latin. So, again, just be weary of where you get your information from because we're taking these letters and these words from people who we think have the best intentions. And sometimes they don't.

But, yeah, the substance was an interesting one because the substance is another word that I've seen use for homunculus. And also Solomon Shamir, which is a, a, a little. allegedly a little worm that he used to construct the temple of Solomon. Shamir? The Shamir. Yeah. And I did a whole... When you're looking at so many different pieces of art and just reading, you start to look at these different plates and they start to look like other things.

And I remember, just to troll the internet, I put out a meme when that whole Titan thing popped off with the submarine that sunk in it right to the Titanic. and that Titan submarine looked just like a Shamir. And it's a little worm that it's either referred to as a little worm or substance that Solomon used to create his temple. And when I put that meme out, it kind of took off. And I even did an episode with Tripoli on it on Tim Fall Hat, where when you start to link all the people within that vessel, right, another word for a boat or submarine or something,

it unraveled. One of the guy's name was Solomon. The other guy's name was, it was Suleiman, Solomon. I broke it down, but it looked exactly like the Shamir, the submarine looked like the Shamir. So what do you think, like when it comes to that, do you think that that was intentional or was that like Cosmos Destiny? I think that certain groups of occultists, they practice things out. So they have all these mythos. And when you're able to, it goes backing into that writing.

So when you have William Shakespeare, who the world is stage, when it goes from different mediums, from writing to pictures, which is more powerful than writing, because people remember pictures more. From that, it goes into, you got music. Lucifer is allegedly the creator of music. You have all that connection there. You go to movies. And then you can, if you look at a movie, it's a lot more powerful. So what I believe they're doing is, again, through the humunculus also plays into that. Because imagine if you're able to play this occult ritual in the real world, whatever that is, in reality, and act out your entire mythos or whatever saga you want to follow, whatever mythology, cosmology you want to follow in the real world.

Like we have stories of, right, David and Goliath and all the Lucifer and God, whatever it is. If you're able to somehow play out your mythology, you're able to extract some power or transmute. some energy from that and use it in the world, in the world's of states type of thing. It's hard to explain, but essentially it's about the manipulation of energies and being able to take that and use it for something else. So I do believe it was some sort of play acting out that they were aware of. I mean, the victims of it, the guys who died? No, whoever illustrated it because the guy that was the CEO of that company was a member

of the Bohemian Grove. his dad was like the president-elect at one time of Bohemian Grove. So what are the chances of that happening that they're hanging around with Donald's Rumfeld and all these guys that that are elite, right? So who's to say maybe it was some sort of sacrifice? And who's to say that it was actually a sacrifice at all? What if what they're showing us is the wreckage was never the wreckage? What if? And this is to play into, you talked about Avatar earlier and a lot of these elites are actually submarine pilots. James Cameron, who created Avatar, is a submarine pilot. Gisleine Maxwell is a submarine pilot. They're all submarine pilots. What are they going under the earth or

under the water to find and where are they going? That's what you've got to start thinking about. What are these elites are obsessed with under the water for? What's going on under the water? We know what's going on in the water. We got to get ourselves a submarine. No, we're not getting a submarine. You know, I'm down. He's down. I'm going down with him. I'm not.

Hey, listen, when we don't come back, the show must carry on. Move up here. I need you to fill in for us. I'll let the wife know. Oh, my gosh. Dude, so. So I'm going to, all right. So I'm working on things.

And I'm going to add to the list of things I need to work on. I need to learn how to do these submarines. I need to learn how to pilot them. I think that like the Meg, that sort of thing, we're at the bottom of the Miriana trench, just like another dimension. And there's a reason why just Lane

and all these other characters associated with her or she was training other elites. A lot of elites have licenses to pilot submarines. And I think that it's not about space. I think it's about whatever is down at the bottom of our oceans. And look at the Pacific Rim. There's these ends. entities coming through this portal at the bottom.

The kajju. The kizu and all that stuff. And if you look, again, the avatar, what the avatar represents, by the way, the avatar are homunculi. It literally says it in the plot of the movie. They're artificially created to host the consciousness of these people. Look at what Elon Musk and all these guys are doing. They literally just posted a news article about the first human trials coming out with the neuralink. All the movies that we've ever seen about the Terminator and technology.

always end back. Frankenstein was the first story about the technology betraying you. And here these people are. But again, it's about it's about quenching the thirst of that Faustian complex that we all have, right? About wanting to learn everything and anything, no matter the cost. So these people, what's next? It's like, well, you might lose your spirit if you take on, if you plug the next. Neuro Lincoln. Would you do it?

Heck no. But you're going to be able to use your phone. I don't care. Without touching it, dude. No, man. You're talking to somebody who'd rather be a farmer than a podcaster at the time. Joel, would you do it, bro? No. But some people would say yes. I get why you're asking the question because you're saying it from an angle of the average person if you sell them on how it will help advance them. A great show is Black Mirror. Yeah, I was just going to say, you guys talk a lot. Let me talk about this one, right?

I was just the same thing. Let me feel like a perfect example of that is if you offer somebody the ability to transfer their consciousness and maybe even their soul or their spirit into a digital world where they'll never die, will they say yes? Because they don't have to face the consequences then of facing their maker because they never will get to that point. They'll live on forever within this artificial realm. Is that what you're going to say? Probably not.

Sort of. I was going into the whole Black Mirror thing when they put the chips in and basically everything. They could even rewind their past. But then certain parts of their past, they could erase if they didn't want to see, like, somebody that hurt them or whatever else. That's what they're going to offer their shows, but they're based on future reality. Yeah. And when Black Mirror first came out, when this was, I don't know, going on eight years ago, seven, eight years ago. I remember the very first episode I saw, it might be the first episode they ever came out, which was, which was, I don't know, going on eight years ago, seven, seven, eight years ago.

I remember the very first episode I saw, I saw it might be the first episode they ever came out with, which was the lady with this social credit system and how that all broke down and stuff. I remember sitting on the couch looking at Lindsay, I'm like, that's real. Like that can happen. And I know the shows created to make the viewer feel like to walk you through the steps of how this actually happened in the real world. But like, dude, like we were knocking on that door. And that TV show, that's on another level. That TV show, do they still make it? Yeah. They just came out with the new season, not too long ago. Really?

I got where they go even deeper on like the layers of reality and like the source reality, which is crazy because one of the big things that we always talk about is like interdimensionalism and being able to access other realities. Well, simulation. What if this reality isn't even the one? I mean, you have the Gnostics talking about that. Like, yo, this is a fake reality. Everyone was like, what are you guys even talking about?

I was like, don't we've been trapped. And then those people got wiped out. I don't know. Usually when the people who are spitting some sort of. the truth, those are usually the guys that go first. Yeah. I'm just saying, I'm just saying usually the people who have, we're talking about knowledge that you're not supposed to have. What if, I'm just saying, what if they were in touch with something beyond them and that links into all the alchemists and everything

and why even they were wiped out? Because the, Philip K. Dick talks about that the that the Gnostics were at this border of human evolution, that they were, the reason that they were experimenting with the elixir's of life and there's stories about these alchemists taking these elixir's or giving them to other people. So entire royalty would have court of alchemists working 24 hours a day trying to create the philosopher's stone,

trying to create the elixir of life. There's a reason why at the terracotta warriors, the whole army, there's a pool of mercury there. Mercury was very important because there were stories about alchemists taking these elixirs, their nails, teeth, hair, everything falling off and they were being rejuvenated. But you can also take that and what would be taking you turn into a dogman or a bigflare, or whatever, anything else, like something otherworldly, which I also think was also happening. And that Rothschild canticles, I read somewhere where it was also how to create monstrous races.

And it could be there. I have to double check. quote me on that. But I think that also plays a part to it. So if the elites are interested in this, and by the elites we're talking about the major powers, you have very wealthy people, Jeff Bezos looking for the elixir of life. That was an article like a year ago or something like that. They're in the know. Even if they're not directly reading these texts, they have people who are reading it for them and they're like, just tell me what I got to do, bro. Yeah, it's kind of like you're talking about the court of alchemists.

They have their own court of alchemists. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, they got guys working for them 24-7 to get to that point. To quote a Freemason, and I'm not a Freemasons, or just to quote, one of these things that Manly P. Hall says is that the alchemist, he's, instead of having these rows, right, with the hood and being in a cave, he says that the alchemist is his clothing is replaced by a white lap coat and four walls. so I don't think that

anything has really changed it's just the setting that's changed the times have changed and things have gone more advanced what you're describing and stuff exactly what I was thinking

with the whole Hitler or Nazi thing like it's become so well known of what he was doing and people are like can you imagine a leader of you know was planning this

and doing this is crazy it's so out there it's so wild it's so rare in reality this has been happening far longer than Hitler and it's just they're like you were talking about earlier about how certain structures of organizations will piece out the information that they want you to have.

I forget what example is meaning. I mean, maybe the church we were talking about. Like that's the classic example of that is that these are historical things that have been happening for such a long time, but they're only giving us the Nazi stuff. That's the trigger. And that makes you so. And as a human being, maybe it makes you so consciously uncomfortable that it becomes the wall that you can't see past in the time. timeline to see all the other times that it's happened. Did you just say that they sciopped everybody?

Is that what you just said that they're... I didn't say the word that's going to get this channel banned now until you... I'm just kidding. No, so, but you're right. It's like the truth is stranger than fiction. Yeah. Right? So focus on all this other negative stuff.

Focus on all the other stuff that they did to those certain people, right? I'm not going to say it. But, and ignore all the other stuff that they were doing where they were trying to go into hollow earth and all this other crazy technology. They had entire, I think they had witches and everything. The Vrill and all that stuff. I mean, that's part of, some people say that's a conspiracy. But I believe otherwise.

Well, and to your point too, Tony, and why don't I talk about this a lot? Because there are, there's a section of people who really don't like it when you start talking about the fantastical aspects. It's like, oh, the aliens and Nephlemon, that's a distraction, distraction from what's really going on in the world. what you need to start understanding is it's all connected. So the wild crazy stuff is connected to that geopolitical side that you keep talking about too because those guys believe in it more than you do. They're acting on it and they're doing it. You just talked about Jeff Bezos looking for the elixir of life.

You got these guys who have a lot of money, a lot of power, and they believe in this stuff. They believe in the occult. They are acting it out and they're not acting out because they don't think it works. They've seen it work. So that is a fact. So if you want to talk about what these aliens, might be or what these nephaline might be and there might be a ton of different answers but to negate it

and say it doesn't exist it's it's absolutely not there is to negate the fact that people in power believe it the people that you want to follow believe it right you know like the people that you want to believe believe it but you don't want to believe it because they're telling you not to believe it right exactly right that that's wild and it goes to what you said about the bible early on and i think this happened you know after jesus left the earth and when the roman catholic church came in and you saw a lot of those structures started being added. You saw a lot of guys fighting over what the scriptures meant. Free masons edited the King James Version of the Bible.

That is a rabblehold to go down too. That's if you want to. Well, for some people, mainstream history is fake as well. But that's history right there. That's history 101. You know what I'm saying? That one of the first, one of the guys to establish Freemasonry, you got Francis Bacon in there, edited the King James Version of the Bible.

So what was taken out or what was in general? Right? What is it? The Geneva Bible? Is that... Those are the two. We were talking about us last night. We were talking about the fight over the Geneva Bible and the fight over the King James Bible. I mean, if you know anything about King James, he wasn't a good person at all. Like, he was pretty wicked. Some of the things that they took out of there was clearly just because he wanted to establish control. I forget the verses and stuff, but they talked about, like, it was referencing the government in how we, like, in the Geneva, it was referencing how, man, I'm going to butcher this, so I'm just going to let it go.

But it was referencing the government, and he was like, no, I don't want that in there because then it's going to give them license to not follow what I say, but what God's saying. Let's talk about the demonology that King James was also writing about. So speaking on the fact that you're saying that, oh, we can't believe the supernatural. Well, you had entire guys writing books on demonology. King James is one of the first guys to write about demon, but writing about demons, witches, vampires, all kind of crazy stuff. you can read for it. You can Google this right now. You can pull it up. And this is the guy that was

responsible for the 1611 King James Version of the Bible. Okay. And again, I'm not saying that God doesn't inspire things and gives messages to people. And control it anyway. I think that's one thing that, why don't I go back and forth on this? So I consult with you a lot because you know a lot more about the King James Version. I am not against the King James Version at all. And I use it for a lot of things. And I do think that God, even through evil, can always push his narrative through regardless. Now, when I'm digging into the deeper meanings of these texts, I do like the brand standard a lot, and I'll speak on that a lot just to people because I like going to the actual meanings of these words. Because listen, a lot of this supernatural stuff was taken out. And take the evil message of King James and some of those guys out of it.

Some guys, like, switch things or didn't translate things in the Bible. One, they didn't have a translation for it. Two, they didn't want to scare people because they were like, man, we start talking about giants and putting on this crazy stuff in here. It might scare them off to where they don't want to read the Bible. And that's man, right? But I do think that God influences what he wants to get out. So I want to put that out there too. So again, it's a crazy road to dig into that. And he and I love talking about the King James Bible and what that really means.

But even to get to that Hebrew part to technology. We're talking about the deeper meaning of the text. We're talking about Saul's armor. Let's talk about Goliath's. Let's talk about what Goliath had on the battlefield. We didn't get to the sword. We didn't get to the piece of technology that Goliath had on him. So in verse 50, so David prevailed over the Philistine with a slinging with a stone and smote the Philistine and slew him.

but there was no sword in the hand of David. Now remember, when David walked out on that battlefield and looked at Goliath, what did he tell him? Your head is mine, literally. I'm going to cut your head off. That's crazy. He didn't have any, he'd have a sword on him. He told Goliath, your head is mine. He walks over to Goliath, a young shepherd boy walks over to Goliath.

Therefore, David ran and stood upon the Philistine and took his sword and drew it out of the sheath thereof and slew him, cut off his head therewith and with the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled. Okay, let's really think about this. This young, small shepherd boy tells a giant before he hits him with a consecrated firestone to go inside of his head, this is scripturally inside of his head, goes through his head. He tells him, your head's mind, I'm cutting it off tier today. Tells him that with what sword? How did he know?

then he goes over and picks up a giant sword a nephalum sword a small shepherd boy wait a minute what kind of sword was this we got to start looking at the text so the Hebrew word for sword here is herob and it also attributes that same work to the flaming swords of the Garden of Eden

and the cherubs held and also the sword of yah worked at as an instrument of his judgment So we're already attributing this word to angelic technology. Some sort of angelic technology, nephalum technology that Goliath had. But it still doesn't explain how David was able to wield it, right? We don't really understand that. But we start digging into the midrish. And the midrish is an expansive Jewish biblical study using a rabbinic mode of interpretation prominent in the Talmud.

So these rabbis would go into the Talmud. They would look at these meanings of these Hebrew words and figure out, okay, what does this really mean? Like, they're digging. They're looking for the knowledge within the text. They want to see what's there that no one else is seeing. And according to the Midrish, Goliath sword had magical powers. It is believed that it was able to change size and weight to match the owner. So this angelic technology, anyone,

whoever wielded it, it would change to fit. That was their finding. Yes, they're finding. This isn't you finding it in like meaning of the words. These are rabbis that dug forever. This is published. This is published up. In the Talmud, yes, in the midrash, which is in a study and exegesis of the Talmud

of this text, they're saying that, yes, Goliath sword had magical powers. It could change the size and weight to match the owner. When David picked it up, he knew it was a piece of technology. It morphed to him in his size and he cut his head off. You think the Smithsonian or the Vatican has that skull somewhere? Like hitting away? It's possible. It's possible.

But we're looking at the midrish. But I've got biblical, biblical verses that will back this up later on in the text. So go ahead. No, just keep going. Keep going. We need to finish what you're saying, because I don't want you forgetting, and then we've got to take a bathroom break

because I got to go to a bathroom so bad I can taste it. So I'm going to drink these things, bro. So David, after he kills Goliath, at some point in between, you know, in First Samuel, Saul gets jealous. We all know this. Saul knows that the kingdom wants David to be king. this shepherd boy went out here and slaughtered this nephalum with a firestone and then chopped his head off with an angelic piece of technology that morphed to him after he told Saul I don't need your technology because God's going to find a way pure insanity when you think of I mean I just think about having that kind of like bravery like that kind of faith so like the the interpretation

that I've always gone with with that story is the fact that this dude so years ago somebody challenged me on the story of David Goliath and they said that clearly David didn't have faith

that God would come through for him because he picked up five stones when he could have just picked up one to do the job and I was like this is so stupid and I kind of broke this whole thing down but the fact that he had, so on my thought process of the faith aspect, like the fact that he had that he's like, no, I don't need that technology because that's not going to compare to what you're about to see. Right. And he does, he, like, nowhere in the scripture does it say that

David knew what was going to happen. Right. He had the faith that he, through faith, he knew whatever was being offered to him was not it. Right. And that's crazy. That's wild. And it gets crazier because you're now seeing Saul, who's angry at David, David goes on the run. He has to hide from Saul. So this is a point where, you know, David goes through some questioning.

Like, why are you putting me through this? You know, he wouldn't have had a hide from Saul. He would have taken that magical cloak to begin with, you know? Right. You were like, I got you. No, I didn't worry about you. So he's running from Saul. David goes to the town of Knob

where he visits with a priest name a Himalek. David tells him that he has an urgent mission from the king and needed bread and weapons. So he kind of lies to Himalek and is like, listen, I got to come here. I got to get some stuff. And people revere David. I mean, come on. Look what he did. So the priest tells him that the sword of Goliath, the Philistine, whom you killed in the valley of

Ila is here, wrapped in the cloth behind the Eiffid. And the Fid is those like yellow aprons that you'll see the high priest wear in Judaism. And he said, if you want it, take it for yourself, then take it. So he tells David to come get the sword of Glythe. So they're keeping it in a sacred holy place, this sword of Goliath. So that's already telling like, and people could argue that it was just a, you know, an homage to what happened. That doesn't seem as you're reading through the text later on what that really. means. This is good. 1 Samuel 21-9. The priest replied, the sword of Glythe Philistine, whom you killed in the

valley of Elyss here is wrapped in the cloth behind the effid. If you want, you may take it, for there is no other but this one. So he said, there's no other weapons there. So that's telling, they don't keep anything else there but this sword. And David said, there is none like it. Give it to me. So there's nothing like it. There's no other sword like it. It's not a sword. It's a piece of technology that they left, that they kept, that these, all of these priests that worked in, that worked in this temple and nod kept. They allowed David to come get it, but David wanted that sword. I need that sword because if I'm on the run and people are coming at me, I want this

piece of technology. Because this piece of technology will allow me to be able to fight off your little puny swords. That's a while. Yeah. Yeah. Are you going to get to the part where they go and ransack the tech? of the other Nephilim?

Are they going to find his brothers and also take their technology? So that is funny and I've actually talked about that before on this show but that breaks down later to when David becomes king and then he and the mighty men

go to hunting Goliath's siblings in the mountains and you're actually talking about 2nd Samuel 2116 and Ish by BNob which was one of his brothers which was the sons of the giant the weight of whose spear weight, 300 shekels of brass and weight, he being girded with a new sword.

A new is today say, that means a new, but there's no word for sword there. They supplemented that word, that Hebrew word, which we don't even know what that Hebrew word means. It was a piece of technology. You know, I've talked about this before, but that is a throw, that's a, that's a throwback to this. What we just talked about, this piece of technology that Goliath had. So we know that these Nephilim were working with crazy, alchemical, technology that their fathers gave them, that taught them, this technology that David was able to wield. That's wild. All right. So listen, Jack, how long have we been going?

Hour in 24. This is a good spot where we're going to take a break. We're going to take a bathroom break. And when we come back in, it's going to be an overtime. And we're going to move into overtime and take this conversation to other directions and have some fun with it. Yeah. Sounds good? Great. All right. Everybody listening, thank you very much for tuning into the show. You guys are awesome. And until next week, you guys, anything you want to say before we get out of here? I am, so speaking of interdimensional, I know you plugged your podcast that's coming up here soon and you show. I also have a, well, speaking of homuncular, because he talked about a Goliath carrying a homunculus on his back. Well, in my comic book, The Chosen Juan, issue two, which, if I get this out, I'm a bit of pump out other issues, get Merkel and

there, get Joel in there, get a whole bunch of people in there. In issue two, Tripley actually has Johnny and XG on his back as homunculi. So it's Triply carrying them on his back and they're a little homuncular on his back. And you can go to Chosenhuan.com, sign up for the Kickstarter on there, which by the time this airs, it should be out.

So, yeah, check that out. Chosenhuan.com for the issue two of the Chosenhuan. It's inspired by like Rick and Morty. It's really weird and funny. And just we make fun of conspiracies and have fun at the same time. And yeah, you can check me out, TjOJP.com. Patreon.com slash the one on. You can go to Linktree slash Joel Thomas Media.

You can find anything from my music to the new podcast coming out at Joel Thomas Media Anywhere right now. That's where you're going to be able to find me. I got a ton of crazy projects coming out with Merkel Media. Tony and I had a long talk about one of the insane ones that we got coming out. So that's going to be mind-blowing. Bonkers. Yeah.

I'm proud of you, Joel. Yeah, so proud of that. Come such a long way. I'm proud of all you guys. You guys are doing great. Listen, this is a fantastic conversation. We're going to continue it in the overtime. People listening right now are watching on YouTube.

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And I look at the heavens, leave a different impression behind the holy water. All I'm seeing is doubles. You should stop at the six is now I push to the silver. This is my confession. Whoa, whoa. The lights around me beckin. Yeah, yeah. I'm lost in my reflection.

No, no, no. I ain't trying to go away at all. I don't know if I'm caught up in the lights on the mesa. They're so bright. But look at me, they look for something they can define. I just never knew a box I couldn't decline. I never thought of being one of a kind. I just spent my time elevating my mind.

This is my confession. Whoa, whoa, the lights around me back in, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm lost in my reflection. No, no, no, I ain't trying to go away at all. I don't know if I'm caught up in the lights on them. They're so bright.