The Confessionals - 659: The Beast Of Bray Road

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

In episode 659: The Beast Of Bray Road, Lee Hample's encounters with the Beast of Bray Road and the mysterious phenomena on his property read like a supernatural thriller. He has amassed thousands of pieces of evidence, including pictures of the creature, eerie black and white mists, and even a UFO with an otherworldly being inside. Lee has also experienced multiple instances of missing time, deepening the mysterious lore. He firmly believes in the existence of portals and multiverses, supported by scientific theories and his own photographs of portals and translucent figures. The strange happenings are not isolated to his land; neighbors around Bray Road have also reported similar sightings and experiences, suggesting a peculiar connection to this area. Lee ponders the possibility that these phenomena may be interdimensional or tied to advanced technology beyond our current comprehension. Eyewitness testimonies lend further credibility to his claims, as does the presence of orbs and the peculiar hitchhiker effect. Lee's experiences open a window into a world of advanced technology and interdimensional entities, challenging our understanding of reality and hinting at forces far beyond human knowledge.Merkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: merkelfilms.comWatch Expedition Dogman: merkelfilms.comAFFILIATESPrepare with Valley Food Storage: https://alnk.to/2uG55AOGet your Nephilim Blaster 2000: https://alnk.to/9mnHak1Bluecosmo Satellite phones: https://alnk.to/e769EipSee Bigfoot with Sionyx night vision: https://alnk.to/bEhxr3FEmergency medical with My Medic: https://alnk.to/dpr6QM4Black Beard Fire Starters: https://alnk.to/4BFcIbeEcoFlow Power Generators: https://alnk.to/flvpAQwGoDark Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/5jke3rkEMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - MissingYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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if I ever heard of Lee and I hadn't. So I reached out to Lee. He came on the show to talk about his property because he purchased property right off Bray Road, 30 plus acres of farmland. He had no idea about the Beast of Bray Road, which is like a dog man creature in Wisconsin that's been legendary roaming the area.

He had no idea about it until somebody told him, you know you have the beast on your property, and that's where it all started for him. And he started documenting it. He has thousands of documented proofs of this creature and mysterious phenomena on his property, black miss, white miss. He even has a picture he wouldn't show me on camera. I have to go to him for him to show it to me. But supposedly, he has a picture of a UFO and there's a being inside of it. I found this conversation fascinating.

And I know you're going to love it. So let's get to Lee right now. All right, today we have Lee Hample on the show. Lee, how are you, sir? Hello, glad to meet you. Thank you. Thank you. for having me on your show. Hey, I'm glad you're here. Looking forward to the conversation. Yeah. So we, we, this is our second time doing this. We had tech issues.

And to be honest with you, Lee, I don't know if it was your end or mine because we're using a new service here to record. And I'm not sure, I'm not sure if it was a service or if it was your end. So don't feel bad about it because I, I do, I do look at this service. I'm like, I don't know about you yet. But listen, I want to let the audience know. know how this kind of came together. You're somebody that was not on my radar. And I was doing a live recording for a lady who was on my show before. She goes by the name Fringe and she runs a

Twitter account that documents her experiences and other people. She hosts conversation about abductions and things like that. And which by the way, I don't have in my notes here, but I want to talk to you about that alien. Just, whatever you could tell me because you have an alien on camera and I'm like, what? But during that space that I was doing the live show with her, people were, you know, coming on and asking questions, and the topic was dog man. And the one guy came on and he was asking me some questions and he brought you up. And he said, I'm sure you know who Lee Hample is. And I was like, I actually don't know who Lee is. Please tell me more. And we started talking about you. And while he was telling me more about

you, I was, I was thrilled. And so, or enthralled. And so I, I looked you up and I shot you a message on Facebook, friend request you. And I was fortunate that you got back to me and started the conversation with you about coming on my show because I'll tell you, man, we had done a lot of interviews over the years, you know, this week we're coming out with, I think, like 630 something. And we've done it every week for seven years. And now we do two a week. And so I talked to a lot of people. And over the years, there was one person that I always wanted to talk to, but I just, for whatever reason, drug my feet on and never really got around to talking to her, which was Linda Godfrey. And when she passed away, very sad. I don't know if it was an expected thing. If other people knew,

I didn't know she was sick. I didn't know she was going to be passing away. So I was, was really taken back by it. And so when she passed away, you know, you're thinking, man, like, I really wish I would have had a chance to get to know her and talk to her. And, you know, I assumed with her passing that having somebody on my show that was so closely connected to the idea of Beast of Bray Road, I felt like that was just gone out the window. I'm not very good at doing my own research and finding people. I tend to let people find me because I'm not the guy that hunts people down. I don't know how to do that.

And so, you know, doing any kind of detective work to get somebody on my show that's had experiences in this area, it was pretty much out the window for me because I don't know how to do that stuff very well. And when you were brought up in connection to the Beast of Bray Road, I was like, well, now, now we're talking. Now we have another person we could possibly talk to. So I was very excited that you got back to me on the Facebook Messenger. And what I'd like to do is kind of lay the groundwork today.

I don't know who is familiar with you and who isn't. There are times that I bring people on my show that I assume everybody knows about. And then you get replies and comments saying, wow, I've never heard of this guy. I'm going to look them up. I'm going to get his book or whatever. and so I want to kind of introduce you to the audience today and let them know who you are, how you kind of came across all this stuff and some of the experiences that you guys have had out there. You own a 30, I think you said a 30 acre farm, I believe is what you said, 35, okay.

And you, you know, you buy this property and you don't know what is actually going on and you're kind of introduced this whole thing. So if you could just kind of, talk to us and walk us into how you came to understand and learn about the Beast of Bray Road. Because I imagine before that, you were probably like, werewolves, dog man? No, impossible. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely.

I was a math computer science teacher for 35 years at Wakanda High School, Wakanda, Illinois. Now, I still live in Wakanda, Illinois. My farm I have is an Elkhorn. That'd be 35 miles away. And in 2000, on the story of that farm, in 2007, my family was interested in purchasing some property with my mother for purposes of me bailing. Hey, my wife and I, in Wakanda here, we had a horse boarding, horse training operation. We had 40 horses.

And I was renting property from her near Sycamore, Illinois, which was 35 miles away also. So in 2007, we purchased a property by Elkhorn, Wisconsin. I did not farm there until 2011. I farmed at my mother's property until rest and peace, she passed away in 2010 and 96 years old. So that, then in 2011, I started farming the property in Wisconsin. Previously, I had a neighbor farm, farmed it on shares. I farmed it, 2011, bailed hay, 5,000 bales hay, 2012, I farmed it. 2013, I farmed it.

Nobody said anything about some cryptic creature being out in my field, except my youngest son said something to me one time, and he said there's some crazy creature running around on your farm up there. Like, I just dismissed it, like in 2010, I think he told me. And I just dismissed it. And I said, well, when I see him, I'll let you know. Well, in 2013, September, I made a mistake of when to cut my hay for purposes of bailing it. I cut it and it was ready on a Sunday.

Well, that particular Sunday, the bears were playing the Packers. and so I didn't don't follow football very much I follow basketball but so I called up the the guys that were helping me from Wakanda, Illinois, and I said, you know, can you guys help bail hay on Sunday? And they go, no, no, no, the bears are playing the Packers. No, we can't help. Well, it's supposed to rain on, yeah, it was supposed to rain on Monday. So I had a couple of guys from Elkhart also were helping me and I called them. And I said, well, the Bears are playing the Packers. Are you guys? able to bail hay. Oh, no, no, nope, nope, we're, we're getting all ready and no, we're having parties. We're not, we can't help bail hay. Well, in that process, and I had to go up and bail the hay. I had to get it bailed and I was going to drop it on the ground because if it rains on it, it ruins the hay.

Well, I was driving by my neighbor a half mile from my farm and there were two of the farmers were standing out in the yard there and I had talked with them. And I stopped in. I said, what are you guys doing? And they go, well, nothing, not much. Are you watching the Bears play the Packers? And they go, oh, no, no, no. Well, we don't.

I said, you guys help me load the hay and we can pull it in my shed, you know, and get the hay loaded. Oh, yeah, we'll come up. We'll help you load it. And I said, you know, what compensation do you want? And they said, oh, just buy us a, you know, a case of course. Okay, all right. So we bailed hay.

We bailed 600 bales of hay, and we finished bailing and standing at the in the shed. and they were drinking the cores and looking out at the field. I mean, we're in Wisconsin, so. And the one gentleman says, you know, Lee, the werewolf lives back on your properties. And I go, the werewolf lives back on my property. I said, you're so full of it. Your eyes are brown.

He goes, no, and what are you talking about the werewolf? Well, he starts telling me, you know, his wife saw it in 2010 with his mother-in-law and running in front of their car, this farmer stuff. This farmer was in his barn and it built a, it moved the hay bales and built a little house, and he saw it coming out of his barn. And this farmer saw it eating a raccoon on Bray Road. And I knew those farmers.

Nobody had said anything, you know. And I go, okay, sure. So then a couple days later, I found a raccoon, a roadkill raccoon, and I threw it out my property. So this was been September 2013. and I threw it in the tall grass. It was like this grass like three feet tall. And I went back a couple of days later.

It had been cut open all the way down and all this innards were gone. Well, it's down in this three feet of grass. There's no track in there. I said, so I'm thinking, well, I think you do this is a hawk, you know. And I go, okay. So I go back a couple days later.

Well, now this raccoon is out of this hole. It's three feet of grass and nothing knocked down and it's put in a pile about 15 feet away. And he has a propensity for putting things in piles. He's done that quite a bit on my farm. He put in a little pile. I go, well, this is not a hawk. And that started my research. I got a camera from my brother and started putting out roadkill raccoons, roadkill deer.

I put out 20 roadkill deer. And every one of them have a story. 18 of them were carried away in front of working cameras. And I have some pictures of the beast, but I should have perfect pictures of him walking up, picking up 150 pound deer and carrying it off. And that started by research, and I've been doing that research for the last 11 years now.

And I have over 100,000 pictures on my computer. I have a log I've been keeping. I have the SD cards, hundreds of those. I have albums I've been keeping, and that's been my research for the last 11 years. Wow. So that sounds like it goes from not interested, not believing to, okay, now I'm going to dedicate a lot of time to this and research this diligently. Yes. Yes. If in 2013, if you told me in 2000, if you told me in 2000, 20, 24, that I'm going to tell you there's a six and a half to seven foot dog man walking around my property on two legs.

And he's huge. And if you'd have bet me, you'd have my pickup truck. You'd have my dog. You'd have my chainsaw. I would have been anything. I would never be saying that. But I am saying that. There's a six and a half to seven foot.

Well, several of them, at least five. Dogmen walking around on my property on five people. don't. They're six and a half to seven feet tall. Jeez. So that's loaded. That's loaded. So how did you come to understanding that there's, there's at least five of them? I mean, I have tracks coming in my field, two at a time. And there's actually, I have the five-toed seven-pad track, which is a canad track. And you have, you have some pictures of that. Yes. It's a five-toed, seven pad track. I started finding that track in 2013.

And there's no can that I looked it up, no canada in the world or ever in the world or ever, they have five-toed seven-pad track. It's three inches by three and a half inches. It's large. And I've seen it hundreds of times. I've counted, 14 people have come to my property and have seen this track and seen track line of this five-toed seven-pad track. So, and I know that it takes two foot to four foot steps, steps, not stride, steps. Well, no in Canada that we know of can take a four foot step.

No, there's not. And the steps, like you and I were talking earlier, the fact that you have, what I find interesting and unique and good about. your situation is that you have the foresight to document these things in the most responsible manner that you can. And it allows for so much credibility to your experiences that you've been having. Like you mentioned about having over 100,000 pictures. I know there are certain pictures that you are holding on to

for not releasing right now. Met minute. I'm sure many. Because if you have 100,000 pictures and you sent me a handful, I'm sure it's funny that you're like, that doesn't go on the internet. And so totally understood for sure. Now, when it comes to the, let's just go with the seven pad track. You mentioned that and you were talking about how you had sent it off to people and their explanation of it, trying to dismiss it.

What was that explanation again? I know I'll butcher it. Oh, where'd we go? You still good? Yeah, I'm okay, yeah. Okay. Could you tell me that explanation that they gave you for the seven-toe track? Well, I mean, I've tried to, I showed it to the DNR of Wisconsin,

and they looked at it, and they looked at the track line, and they said, well, you have an abnormal coyote. And I go, abnormal coyote, those tracks are two feet apart, steps and look how big they are he goes and the DNR agent looked at me and he goes Lee he said you know as a DNR we work with nuisance animals and we work with game laws we don't work with unknown animals we don't work with creatures or whatever you have here and he got in his truck and drove away so so he didn't know what it was um and I've had had other track experts.

But the one track expert was at the Field Museum, the Museum of Science and Natural History Museum in Chicago. We contacted them, my brother Fred did. And they gave us their track expert out in Utah. And so I sent him the, we sent him those tracks. And he sent back an explanation of, of, of a blue track and a red track. And he said, he said, well, first of all,

he said, this is not a double hit from the same animal. This is one animal going forward, and the other animal came across it at an angle. And I go, and you have the sketch that he gave, which doesn't make any sense at all. And so I sent him some more tracks. We say him some more track with, the five-toed seven-pad tracks,

and he just said, well, I'm glad I'm able to help you. Well, I've tracked this thing many times, half mile, hundreds of times, hundreds, hundreds of times. So his explanation is just nonsense. So they don't know what to do with it, the track experts, because they've never seen a five-toed seven-pad track that was, you know, a feasible track. and it is.

Very good documentation. I have castings of it. Yeah, I mean, like you said, castings and it's been replicatable. Is this not just a one-off thing? It has been a constant thing. Is there,

from your sightings says, we'll get into your three sightings that you've had. But from your sightings, has there ever been anything that you've seen that would, that, obviously, an upright walking dog is not,

normal, or at least that we, as what we're taught. But outside of the traditional upright walking dog that we would picture in our head, has there ever been anything that you've seen that is like, oh, that's something I wouldn't have expected, just like the pad. I mean, the seven, the seven pads is, is odd, you know? Is there anything else that you have seen that's like, man, you know, if I was picturing an upright walking dog, I wouldn't have pictured that. Well, the straddle. The straddle is a distance like when we walk, we take our right foot and our left foot forward. The straddle is from the outside of our right foot to the outside of our left foot from a straight line that, you know, is between our two footprints.

The straddle in snow and in dirt with the beast is straight. They walk like a model. You see them in snow, and there's very, very little straddle. They're right, one foot right in front of the other foot, two to four feet apart. And there's no toe drag. In snow, your coyotes and your deer have a toe drag coming out. And these guys, this does not have a toe drag. He brings his feet very high out, and he walks very straight, which for a walking dog,

if you see them on a carnival or a circus, they walk very, you know, widespread to keep their balance. And this beast, and I have pictures, you have some that I sent you, that are just straight line.

It's just amazing that he can walk like that. Yeah, very surprising. Very, very. And, you know, you hear different,

you know, things when people have these encounters, and one thing that I hear people mention is, specifically with Bigfoot, is how it almost like it's, it's, it glides. It's, it's, it's just a smooth motion. It's not clunky.

And so it's kind of like what you're talking about, where walking like a model in the straight line, it's not a clunky walk. No, we can, I'd like to give you one of my, one of my sightings for, to describe that, that concept a little bit more,

to explore that concept a little bit more. In May 5th, 2017, 10.30 at night, I turned down on my driveway to head into Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. And I live on Bowers Road. My farm is a half mile long, and it goes over a quarter mile from Bray Road. So my farm is in between Bowers Road and Bray Road. And there's been many sightings on Bray Road,

Or in Bowers Road also. Linda, bless her soul. She was at my farm many times. She has a book out. She wrote a book called Monsters Among Us by Linda Godfrey. And in that book, I'm Roy Smith. And I'm about three chapters in that book that she wrote about. The producers or whoever in charge of the book would not use my real name.

So they used Roy. Smith. But, you know, she has talked to many people that have seen, you know, in between Bowers and Bray Road and in that general area. So May 5th, 2017, I pulled out on my driveway and I turned to go south. Right along the road, two electrical poles away, which is probably 200 feet or so, at the edge of the road, three feet off the ground, here's two orangish red eyes looking at me, very round, very orangish red, bright orange-use red eyes. And I know right away, this is not a deer coyote because they're yellow to yellow-green.

And so I throw my brights on, I accelerate, and immediately it goes down the embankment. Now that embankment is four and a half feet tall, and May 5th, the grass on top was a foot tall. So that's five and a half feet. And it's looking over the top at me. with these glowing, very luminosity, high luminosity, orange's red eyes.

And it's looking over the top at me. And I go, so I got my brights on. I'm going to see this guy, you know. And I couldn't see any head or anybody. All I could see with these eyes. Well, instantaneously, so fast, it's 15 to 20 feet out in the field. I mean, this like blink of an eye, and it turns and I see one red eye, just as bright as it was up by the road. Now my headlights are not reflecting that much out there.

Now it jumps another 15, 20 feet. It turns again, I see one eye again, one very luminous, orangish red eye, and then it disappeared. But that movement was so fast. I thought it flew was so fast. I go, that thing flew. I mean, or did it just jump? I mean, still to this day, I don't know what it did. Well, I went there and I found tracks,

so I know it was standing next to the field, or standing at the edge of the field, but there was a lot of debris in the field. I could not find where it landed, but my son and I looked for tracks the next morning, and we found the five-toed seven-pad tracks right there, right where I saw it. So I know the creature I saw that night

had the five-toed seven pad tracks. And I became very ill that night too, very ill. And there's more to the story if you want to hear more. Yeah, I do, absolutely. So after I saw, I know I left, I came on my driveway at 10.30. And so then I, you know, the creature, you know, moved out into the field.

So I drove down approximately, I think, a half mile, turned around, came back, shined my lights out into the field, and it's just south of my barn. And, of course, I didn't see anything. Well, you know, it's like, you know, quarter of 11 or so. And I said, I got to call somebody.

I got to call somebody, you know. I want to, this is a witness report. I don't have any documentation in an eyewitness report. you need to get that immediately documented. So I pulled into my barn, pulled to the west into my barn and parked, and the one person I could call is my brother friend. He's been helping with him tremendous help over the years.

And so I called him. And of course, I explained in a very calm way, I just saw the red eyes. No. So I explained to him what I just seen, and it was very important. you know, to get that concept of. And that was in May, and that particular,

and my, his daughter, always had a New Year's brunch. So we were at the New Year's brunch in 2018, it would have been. And we were talking with my sister-in-law, and I told Fred, I said, oh, I'm sorry, you know, I called you guys late. Like, it's probably, like, close to 11 o'clock. It goes, close to 11. And my sister-in-law said, oh, it was like 12-20, 12-21.

I looked at the clock, you know, it was after midnight. I go, how to, no, it wasn't after midnight? And he goes, yeah, it was. I go, there's no way. And he says, it was. So I called T-Mobile, and I say, all right, I need my records from May of 2017. They go, well, we don't have, we don't have those records. I go, wait a minute, I saw a law and order, and they went back two years.

And they had the record that the guy starts laughing up. He said, we keep them for 30 days. So I was not able to get those records. But I have very good documentation from who I called that I called after midnight. I lost an hour, hour and a half of time. I don't know where I was at. And that's so unsettling. I'm living, I'm real that I think.

you know but boy it brings into a lot of new concepts when you uh know you have documentation that you were someplace else for an hour an hour and a half and what you think you did you didn't do oh man i go whoa okay this is this is this the whole new blog game now yeah i mean do you think that what you remember then because what you remember what you described is you know point a to point b it was real quick boom boom uh but there's this time period where you would you repeat that. Well, the experience that you had and stuff, I mean, it was very quick as

far as getting to telling your brother and calling him. But in reality, if you're calling your brother an hour and a half later, do you think that, I mean, there's so many different ways to think about this, but I mean, there could be the

angle of you were so shocked that you don't remember just sitting there just staring at the road or whatever. There's the idea, you know, people could be thinking, oh, maybe he was abducted and, and, you know, all that. I mean, there's people who talk about along the lines of abduction that they will, they, as in whoever that is, I don't know who the they is, but they doing the abduction is implanting screen memories so that you remember something that just didn't happen.

You've had time to think about this situation. What are some conclusions that you've come to? Oh, none. I mean, I wouldn't have any conclusion. I mean, science doesn't work that fast. This is only five years ago. Oh, jeez, seven years ago. Science is not working that fast. I've lost time, three times out there that's been documented, three times. And it's, it's just, I know exactly what I think I know exactly what I did. I went down, pulled in, turned around, because I wanted to shine my lights out. the field, came back in and called my brother. Now, I didn't do that. Where I was or what I did do, I have no way of documenting. I mean, I tried to check the GPS on my phone at that time of 2017. And I didn't, I don't think I had it at that point, or it wasn't recording,

or it wasn't still applicable six months later. But it's just, I have no idea. I mean, I don't know. It's just unsettling that something that I think was real wasn't real. I can tell you, I can tell you what it wasn't. What I think I did and what happened are not the same. Man, that definitely is unsettling. I've never experienced missing time myself.

I lie. I did once, but it wasn't like in this kind of situation. When I was in high school, we went out to the basketball course to play basketball. We had an hour, and according to the clock, it took us an hour to play a game to 21, which is literally impossible because Tony back in the day could score buckets. You guys are poor shots. Yeah, very poor. that. So when you said you followed basketball, I knew you'd understand that reference. But I, I, I said to the guys that said, does anybody else think it's weird that we have to leave already?

And we only played one game. And they're just like, oh, yeah. And nobody really cared to even talk about it. Other than that, I've never had any kind of dramatic missing time experience. I don't know what happened there. But I can imagine it's unsettling to have that and just not know it. During an experience where you are seeing something like that and then having missing time. You mentioned having missing time three times and having a seeing this creature three times. Was missing time connected to each time you saw the creature? The second time, the first time I had missing time, or the second time I had missing time was I was one of my helpers, we were tracking it.

It had carried away a deer. We were tracking it through the neighbor's cornfield. and all of a sudden he was gone, and so we were tracking it. And there was some myths in some of the pictures that I took. I couldn't find him. And we're in a cornfield. It's okay, so it's possible.

All of a sudden, he's, you know, a quarter mile ahead of me, yelling my name, you know, Lee, where are you? I go, where are you? I'm up here. I said, well, how'd you get there? He said, well, I walked. I said, well, I walked. You know, this isn't possible that we were 20 feet apart,

and the next time we saw each other, we were a half mile apart. Yeah, close that. They're probably half a mile apart, yeah. That's wild. And the other time that I lost missing time was in 2020, and I was filming an infrared. I can't show you this, but I was filming an infrared what I call ghost fire.

They look like fires, but they're only through my infrared scope. They're crazy. And in that process, there was a production crew there who was out in my field, and they didn't see the ghost fire, infrared fire. There's no fire out there. but we

we just there was time about an hour and a half that I actually was on camera and I did not know I was on camera and one of the crew members that were there

they came back and and they were out there for about two and a half hours and the next day I talked to him and he said yeah we didn't stay long we stayed about 45 minutes I said you guys were out there

after 1130. Well, no, no, we were only out there like 45 minutes. Oh, no, you were out there two and a half hours. And he's on camera for this documentation, and he said, I wasn't there. I didn't, I wasn't there. And my game camera took pictures of them in my field where they said they never were.

I said, you guys are, here's a picture, you guys on the game camera. you know at 10 o'clock you know we weren't there well there's your game camera so that mystery is why it's you know continues yeah i'd say so uh all right so uh it sounds like every time you're dealing with it's not like i was just you know picking strawberries and i had missing time you were dealing with this phenomenon and that's when the missing time happened um yeah but i've been i've dealt with other times and i have that have not had missing time.

Sure. It leads me to my next question. Now, I'm going to get weird on you, Lee. I know you're a man of science, but I got to ask you a question. What are your thoughts on the idea of portals? Well, mathematics says there's multi-universe. They're proven there's multi-universes.

We're not the only universe. Our three-dimensional universe is not the only universe. Of course, Einstein proved there black holes, you know, 50 years before we ever found a black hole. The University of Wisconsin has a grant now to work on some way of proving that there are other universes, either parallel universes to ours or coexisting universes to ours. It may take 50 to 100 years before that conclusion is terminated or found or or not found.

But, I mean, like I say, it took 50 years to find the first black holes after Einstein said there was black holes out there. That's common in science. So multi-universes is very, very acceptable. It's proven mathematics. And I have pictures of portals. I have pictures of light coming through portals.

I have pictures of, of, I guess that only I call them as like a manifestation of a figure coming out of orbs. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, there's absolutely portals out there. And I mean, I have pictures of them.

I like coming through this portal that's, it's elliptical oval shaped. And, and it's, I have two cameras that took pictures. Geez, are these like game trail cam pictures? Yes.

Okay. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, so this is fantastic because I thought if I was going to bring up portals, I was like, well, I'm going to, I'm 35 minutes in this conversation. I'm about to sink it, but I got to ask them about portals. I'm glad I didn't sink. No, that's well within the realm of talking about a multi-universe,

that there would be some way to transcend from one universe to another. you know, are three-dimensional, is there a four-dimensional, two-dimensional, one that don't have any dimension? I think so. I mean, the math is proven that. And I'll be tracking, like, in snow, and I'll be following the tracks,

which I know are the beast, and they'll just stop. They will just stop. There'll be a track, and no, I'll look in the snow all around, and there's no more tracks. Or they'll just stop. start. They like, they'll land, the two feet of land side by side and they'll just walk off

in my field. And so it has the ability to transport itself from, you know, I think from this universe to another one. And I have pictures of it materializing in front of my game camera. Three pictures, the first picture, there are one second for three pictures, a third apart. One picture, there's nothing in it. It's a night picture. The next picture, there's a translucent figure in it. And the third picture, which will be one second later. It's a solid black figure on my chair. So it's materialized right from it. Let's take a second to talk about our sponsor day, which is Simply Safe. And listen, if you are an owner of a property in Wisconsin near the Bray Road, you might want to have Simply Safe on your home. That way, you know if Dogman's coming,

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let's just call it a phenomenon that we don't understand scientifically yet. Is that, is that fair to say? I mean, because we don't understand how to do it. Scientifically, we don't have that ability. Yeah, a hundred years or now, we may have. If there's an alien, I mean, I, you know, I have picture, I told you I've pictured alien in spacecraft. You know, if they're 100 years or 1,000 years ahead of us technologically, they would have that ability.

But why would they use my field as that? Transport. That's a question. But, you know, yeah, very fair to say 100 years, we may be able to transcend one universe to another universe, sure. Yeah.

Do you think, and I don't know what's your extent of knowledge is when it comes to the other areas that aren't your property. But do you think that it's your there's something about your property or something on your property that allows that transfer from one parallel world to another or whatever it is? Or is it several locations in that area? Or do you think it's the whole area in general that people are experiencing this thing that for whatever reason, that whole area in general, these things could pop in and out there for whatever reason, whether it's a thinning of a veil or some kind of energy or whatever.

Well, I don't know if there's any, I mean, any reason why it would be my property. It's a farm field. It's a hay field, 35 acres. Certainly, the beast has been seen in an area five miles around there. My one neighbor saw an orb come across, an orange orb come across the field on his property, It's about a half mile away. And people have said, oh, it's on the layline. So some people said they do the laylines. And I don't know.

They don't seem to do anything, you know, unnatural to me. He said, well, yeah, they go like this here. I said, well, they do that over there. They do that over there. They do that over there. You know. And the summer about, I think it's the 38th peril or something. See, you're on that.

I said, well, so is all this rest of the United States is on that. Well, so those concepts, I have not seen any validity to those concepts. As far as other locations, I have a general knowledge of them, but I have not studied other locations or other people's sightings. Linda Gottre, that was her job. She was a journalist, and she did excellent excellent. She wrote 20 books of interviewing people and, you know, recording. that history, which is very important. Of course, the court of law, if you have enough eyewitnesses, they accept that as truth.

It can be used for validity of a situation or making a decision in a court of law. So there is validity to eyewitness. But on the other hand, eyewitnesses what your mind sees. We don't see with our eyes. Only our eyes do is let the light through. and our mind interprets what we're looking at. And your experience, my experiences have all been different. And many times we'll look at the same event or concept

and totally see different idea there. So, you know, the eyewitness has to be really, really cohesive to have it to be a valid argument. And from what I see there, people who have seen this, you know, in many other places. And,

and they're very similar, yes. So when it comes to the idea, like you said about how, you have on picture where it's, it's almost like it's popping in, like it's translucent at some point. Do you, is there, is there,

and this is completely theory, I guess, but do you think that they, they are in a different, state of existence somewhere else or are they physical somewhere else and they just when they make that transfer that's when they're more translucent well yeah i mean they're obviously in this three-dimensional world they pick up 150 pound deer and carry them away they make tracks um they have visual sightings of them walking it's moving a 3 30 in the afternoon i took i took pictures with my iPhone 11 cameras a quarter mile away for three and a half minutes

and I have those pictures. Everything I saw it do with my eyes, I have on the camera. Now, people say, well, it's too far away. Well, it's a quarter mile away from where I was standing. Why didn't you take video? Well, video is eight megapixels on an iPhone, and a photo is 18 megapixel.

So I wanted the clearest picture as I could. So I did not take a video. It would just be a brown blog. But with this, with the photo, you have more detail that you can see. So what was the question? I don't know. It was something about translucent, right?

Oh, physical state. Oh, okay. So it was, and it absolutely is in this three-dimensional world that we live in. I've seen it there. And it also can move into another dimension, a parallel, or another location, that's not in our visualization, our visual sighting. Man. Yeah.

So I'm going to refrain from going down this rabbit hole with you because I, this is my bag. Like I love talking about the interdimensional stuff and what is on the other side kind of thing. But I'm going to reel a back again before I get lost in this. And because I want to make sure, I want to talk to you. about the third time you saw this, which if I remember correctly, you said it was 2021. Was that right?

Okay. The second time I saw it was May 11th, 2021. First time of May 5th, 2017. Second time was May 11th, 2021. Third time was, yeah, May, May 20th, 2020. So the second time I saw it, we want to talk about that one?

Yeah. So I was getting confused. So the second time is the one you haven't mentioned yet, right? Is what what? The second time you saw it is when you haven't mentioned that story yet, right? That's when I took pictures with my iPhone. It was a 40 mile away. That was the second time I saw.

So it was May 11th, 2021. And I pulled out in my field to check my SD cards. And I looked over in the neighbor's field, which is next to a thick wood that's in between my farm. and it's on his field. It's a heavy, heavy, thick woods that has Blackberry bushes in it. You can't walk through it. And that then Bray Road is in the other side of that woods.

And I looked over in the field, and here in the field is a black, brown, you know, large objects, you know, animals there. I knew right away, again, it's not a deer or coyote. And we have no bear. in southern Wisconsin, southeastern Wisconsin. And I knew where I wasn't bear either because it was huge

and we don't have grizzlies for sure. We have black bear, they're small. But in northern Wisconsin. But so I got on my truck, I started taking pictures with my eye phone. Now what I saw with my eyes was it was crouched down and so I started taking pictures

that stood up, walked away from me, west from me at the full height. Then when it got over next to the woods, it dropped down on all four and went into the woods. That's what I saw in my eyes, and that's what I got on my camera, my pictures.

You can look into them. The sighting, the gentleman who helps me in Chicago, who was a cameraman, he said, oh, you send me that picture. He said, I'll tell you how big it is. He said, I have an app that will, and maybe you have the app, I have an app that will take into account the focal links and all this,

and it'll tell me how large that object is or that animal is, the creature is in your picture. So I sent him the picture, telling him, don't send this anybody else, but no, he's good. And he sent back, he said the app says it's six and a half to seven feet tall and the shoulders are three to three and a half feet wide. That's what the computer app says. And that's how big it looked to me.

I was getting shack out of it. This ain't the biggest shack. It's a quarter of my way. It's huge. So, so, so I, I, um, call my brother Fred. Okay, I got to tell. Here's an high witness again. This three certain the afternoon.

So this isn't at night. So I called my brother Fred. I sent him some of the pictures. I said, okay, here I just saw, I just saw the beast, you know. And, uh, I want to go over there. I want to go walk over and see if I find tracks as I did the first. time. I found him five till it's seven bad tracks. So I want to go over there. So stay on the phone. If he comes out of the woods and just call the coroner and I'll become Wisconsin folklore,

that dumb farmer chased it in the woods that came out. So I walked over there talking to him on the phone, talking to the bees. Okay, if you're in there, come on out. If you are some huge guy who's hiding on me, come on out. We can talk, you know. And I walked over there. over there and right where I had seen him and where he had walked to the woods on two feet, two legs was the five, the huge five-toed seven pad tracks were right there. And where he was crouched down, it was very dry May 11th, 2021. And where he's crouched down, he drew circles in the ground. He had drawn circles.

And I have pictures. He drew circles in the ground. Look like with his finger, you know, or a stick. So that was weird. And here were the five-toed seven-pad tracks. So I know twice this creature I've seen is bad the five-toed seven-pad track. That's the only tracks there. Wow.

So drawing the circles in the ground, I mean, I'm not going to venture to guess what that is. I don't know why. But it does show that there, I mean, I think traditionally when people hear about, you know, dogman, big foot, this idea. it's this this monster, this beast out there that, you know, whatever, however you want to go from there. But what you just said, there's a level of intent and intelligence behind this thing that I just, I don't know, I have a hard time saying that this would be just some creature like a wolf or a coyote out there. we just, you know, it's very rare and we just don't know what they are because like normal animals don't draw in this in the dirt. No, no. They don't, they don't cut open raccoons to take out the insides.

This is not normal. And I think sometimes we often, we were talking, I think it was off air, but you and I were talking about paradigms and like how a lot of times people want to fit things into their own paradigm so they can understand it. And so they create and invent new things just so that they can fit this new piece of the equation in a comfortable way. I don't know how you go about fitting anything that you just shared into a comfortable way of a normal type of thing. It seems very abnormal. And then when you when you introduce all the other abnormal things with this topic on your property, not just the topic in general, but specifically your property, it's very, it's very much, for lack of better terms, generically, paranormal, outside the realms of our understanding of normal. It's, you've caught,

and let's talk about this actually a little bit. You've caught in the miss on, on camera, on your game trail cams. And you can talk about the situations involved with these white and black mists. But do you, before you do that, I guess, do you, do you. equate the mist to the beast or do you think they're two separate things or do they work hand in hand? Well, of course, geographically, they're in the same location. The mist is when I put out the 20 deer, the mist would come and the deer would be removed or removed or gone in that process and you could not see what,

what was, you know, behind that myth. So I think very much they're correlated. And the one picture I sent you, and I think it's 2013, November 2013, Linda wanted to come out to my farm. And I said, okay, let's go. I have a deer out there. Let's go out there and you'll check the deer.

Okay. So we drove out there. We got out on my truck. Now, there's also a smell we haven't talked about. four or five times the smell has come. One time the smell come, my tractor put running. Another time, the smell come, my snowmobiles wouldn't go. So there's also a smell associated with this.

So we got out of the truck and I said, Oh, Linda, the smell is, that's that smell. She'll, that's a terrible smell. Well, anyway, excuse me, the way I inquiet is it's a dog, skunk urine that's been in the sun for four, four or five days because it's just, to get to your nose, you can't get rid of it.

And it's just, it's a very memorable smell. And I said, I'll walk over to the deer and see if, see if the deer smells. And it was cold. It was November, was, you know,

I knew it wasn't the deer, but I walked over to the check. So I walked over and looked at the deer, and the deer didn't smell at all. Of course, I couldn't smell anything then because of my nose, probably. So I went over and I went over the camera

and took out the, SD card and Linda and I got in the truck and put it in the computer and we started looking at it. Well, at 10 o'clock, the mist started appearing on my camera. Of course, there are false triggers because there's no animal in there. Moultry says it's got to be heat and motion by a thousand, a thousand of the pictures that don't have heat in motion. But I said, oh, then miss is here at 10 o'clock. Well, then we're moving up to 2 o'clock, and that's when we got there. I said, 2 o'clock, I said, the mist is still here. Linda, that's what we came. She said, oh, yeah. And so I got out, when I got out of the truck to walk up to the deer, it was a bright, clear day, half of my body

is cloaked, walking up to the deer. You can only say the top half of my body. And when I went over to take out the SD card, which was eight seconds later, it was bright and clear. So I think they're very much related because that day was a smell and the cloaking of the mist that I was in and absolute proof that it can, you know, just cover up an object because half of my body is gone. Do you, knowing that you have on camera black mist and white mist, do you think that there's a difference between the two or do you think it's just, you know, different creatures or time of day or what? that's a good question. I have brown mist too.

Okay. And I have multicolored mist. So, um, I mean, the black mist came. The deer is picked up and carried 10 feet and thrown between two trees. And,

uh, that deer was mutilated. The front quarter was cut off and taken away. Oh, I think you have that picture. Um, and, you know, coyotes eat the back end or they eat the innards because that's where the,

the better protein is and the more muscular. or muscular meat is, they don't take cut off the front quarter and carry it away. In that picture that I think I sent you shows that. And that happened many times that a tongue would be gone or the eyes would be gone or a portion of the deer would be gone, cut off and carried away, you know. Man, that's wild. The fact that you catching, you know, it's just everything that you're catching on

camera is proof that the world, the world is really bizarre and that there can be a lot of high strangeness going on in one area. I wouldn't mind maybe transitioning here into some of this UFO talk a little bit because they're a very real factor on this property. And at some point, I would love to get your opinion as if you think, again, those two things are connected, the beast and the UFOs. But in one set of pictures you and I were talking about earlier, they are connected because it's pictures in itself. There's that you have, I think it was the pectoral muscle in the picture of this thing, broad daylight, and then in the sky behind three different pictures, you have UFOs in the sky and they're moving incredibly fast.

Tell us about this whole situation. Yeah, the one, the pectoral muscle did not have it. It was the one it had the head and the shoulder. Okay. It had the, had the UFO pods in the background. Yeah. Seven, the camera took a picture seven minutes.

Before a black figure came very close to the camera. There's a, in fact, there's a blackberry bush that it actually moved out of the way and came up very close to the camera. And the camera is five feet off the ground and it's right about at his shoulder. So it makes him, you know,

feet tall. And in the picture it took seven minutes before, there's nothing in the sky. It's just a clear, clear, clear blue sky. And when the creature appears above his shoulder

and in the sky, there's anywhere from two to five pod that are white with a black, either figure in them or a black line in them. And they move in the, in the one second that those three pictures are taken,

or a third and second apart. So there's absolute proof there that seven minutes before, there's nothing in the sky, and then the cryptid comes, the beast comes, and here are these pods flying in the sky. So there's proofs there right there at the same time. So, okay, there's proof that they're there at the same time,

but what does Lee say? What does Lee say that they are connected? Are UFOs dropping the beast off on your property? Is that what you're saying? I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. That's what you think? I'm 100% okay with it.

You know, it's hard as some science element to bring in what you're talking about. You know, I can have, you know, in math, we have assumptions, poshous, theorems, and proofs, you know. I have so much evidence that there's, you know, the beast is walking and stops. There's so much evidence that the beast starts. There's so much evidence that things are there and then they actually are levitated away. I mean, 150-pound deer on totally, I put out black dirt and put the deer on the black dirt so I can see tracks. And that deer was levitated and taken away. There was no tracks there whatsoever.

And that happened several times, many times with the 20 deer that were I put out, road killed deer. So there's a lot of evidence that there's a, you know, a forest or a concept that is removing both the beast and even, you know, even deer from the area by levitation. You know, it just hit me now. You, this area is just very reminiscent of Skinwalker Ranch. Are you familiar with Skinwalker Ranch? Sure, sure, sure. Have you been told that before? I'm sorry, why?

Have you been kind of connecting those dots before that this area has a lot of the same activity as Skinwalker has? Linda said that. Linda told me that originally before the series came on. She knew all about Skinwalker Ranch. I've had a gentleman who has written books about Skinwalker Ranch. He's been to my farm. He said, wow, he said, we don't have,

Skinwalker Ranch doesn't have anything compared to what you have here. Yeah. But that was the end of it. He looked at all my, he looked at, not all my pictures, it looked like a hundred of them, but. and he's actually been there and had some experience. He wanted to stay out one night and he got chased out. There are too many weird things that happened.

And he and his girlfriend, they left. This is your farm that they left. Yeah. Who was this person that wrote the book about Skin Walker, Raj? I won't, I won't give it with me. Okay, no worries, no worries. Now he's on blind frog, the mystery of a blind frog rams. He's doing that one now.

He's on him. Gotcha. Okay. Well, if I ever have the opportunity to visit your farm and I get scared and run away, the whole world will know because it'll be documented on camera. Did you watch? You know Eric Mantell. Yeah.

Yeah. I was just talking to him early today. He only, they only lasted 45 minutes. 45 minutes? If you watch the, if you watch the show, Beast of Bray Road Alive and Well, not to follow up, but the first one, the Beast of Bray Road alive and well, they lasted 45 minutes, no. 45 minutes. And Eric, and they came into my shed and he and Dominic were both like, oh, we, they were, they don't say that much on the video, but. They were shaking.

Man. Yeah, look at, if you, you haven't seen that video yet, right? No, I haven't. The Beast of Bray Road, Beast of Bray Road live and well. Well, I'm going to look into that. It's 25 minutes. I mean, other people, caps. That's a group in Wisconsin, and they were out for like an hour,

and they came in, and I said, I said, you guys are going to stay out tonight. They had this big band and all this equipment and stuff, and he goes, well, we were asked to leave. I go, asked to leave. It's my property. Nobody can ask you leave.

I own the property. You can't be asked to leave. Well, it wasn't a person and asked us to leave. And they had a ghost box, which I don't know the technology of a ghost box very much, but in that ghost box,

they were, they said, it said, please leave several times. Please drive. Several times. And they, and then all their batteries, went dead. So they said, okay, all right, we got to get out of here before our truck doesn't run.

So that batteries going dead is very common. Yeah, we tend to bring a lot of batteries when we go places for that reason. And it's a common thing. And it's something goes on when you're doing this stuff where the batteries get drained. And, you know, I think the common thought is that whatever is there is using the energy from the batteries to manifest itself. I tend to not know either way, obviously, but I sometimes I don't know if it's that simple of an explanation. But listen, I mean, you're talking about 45 minutes, an hour. Has anybody ever camped out there in a tent for several nights successfully? In a tent?

Yeah. Connie Willis and she's coast to coast. Do you know Connie Willis coast to coast? I've been on her show twice. coast to coast the radio station yes okay

she had a camper they stayed out for one they stayed out one or two nights something hit on the side of their camper

but they were in the car in a RV so they made it I've been out there in RV um Pat Spain

was out there in a tent he didn't make it through the night no really I'm going to call Pat and talk to about this

I'm going to ask about this Oh, yeah, ask Pat about it. I mean, he was there. He did a show. He was there. Yeah, ask him. I will.

I'm going to ask him. Because I'm going to do some, I'm going to do some my recon because I want to know what kind of challenge I have if I make it to your farm. Because I, man, like, we went to, we went to Skinwalker Ranch. We weren't allowed to, but we went to Space Wolf Research, which, you know, butts up against Skinwalker Ranch. Ryan Burns owns a property there for the same purpose. to research the area. And we spent a week out there. We had some pretty gnarly experiences. And we spent an entire week out there in a 12-man tent. And so it was interesting, for sure. But I wanted to talk to you about this. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

David Wetherly? You know David Wetherly? I know the name. I don't know him personally. He's like a world traveler to find paranormal. He and another gentleman made it about an hour, hour and a half. They made a video of what was happening to him, and they were like,

that's on YouTube. I don't know what it's called David Weatherly. He just said, he just said, there's places like this where the Native Americans say you don't go, and I don't think you should. And they left. Man.

that that's wild you know we don't know so anyway I mean they say don't don't go and yet here we are and Lee has an entire farm and home there he lives there no no I live in Wakanda

I was 35 miles away I just have a barn there like bail hay but I need to bail hay for the horses and cows and sheep and goats I have here in in Wakanda so Illinois so got you so you have a safe So you have a safe haven, though. You have a place of refuge.

I'm in my pole barn. I have a sleeping area in my pole barn, yes. Have you ever had any experiences where you had an experience out there? And if you didn't know any better, it seems like something followed you back home? An orb was in my truck one time. And I came in my window, and I had video of it. come in in my window. It came in my truck and then it disappeared. They flash out. They'll flash in and flash out. I have hundreds of videos of these orbs. And so I drove back to Wakanda and I got here

and I thought, well, I'll just, you know, I have a small farm at here, it's eight acres. And so I pulled in and I said, I'm going to just check my truck for, you know, that orb. Maybe, you know, I don't know. He flashed out inside my truck. So I started my video, I started recording and they popped up. He was in my truck. He stayed there. He was there the whole time. I guess. He was there again going around. Jeez. Hitchhiker effect. I mean, dreams or nightmares. Sometimes, yeah, I don't know. None of my family has had any experience. And I would be very concerned. as they did. Yeah, for sure.

Would you stop if they did, stop looking into it? Oh, that would be, that would be a strong consideration, yes. My oldest, my youngest son has been there with me and he's, he's had experiences there. My wife, she goes there. She always takes the dogs, you know, with her when she goes to get hay or if she's going to the farm, especially if she's going to be the, there early morning or nighttime. Yeah.

I told my neighbor who has lived there her whole life in that area when in 2016, when I got a picture of a very tall figure on my camera a quarter mile away and nobody knew I had a camera cell for three years. I told her, I said, you know, there's, there's a creature, that creature is out there, that beast of gray road. them. And she would go for walks. She asked, you know, if they could, she had the dog, if we could walk your hayfell. Sure, at any time, walk around, I don't care. And she said, oh, yeah, I don't go if the dog won't go. So people live with them. Wow. Listen, I'm new to East Tennessee. I told you I just moved here two years ago.

with my job with what I do, it keeps me really busy. I have not got a chance to really mingle with the locals as much as I want to. And I have always been curious if I could build up a network in this area of people who have had these types of experiences and to further understand how they go through just life in general, knowing that this stuff is happening. I've talked to people from the area, but I don't have a whole lot of friends in the area. If that makes sense, I know it sounds weird because a lot of people will know who I am, but I don't have a whole lot of friends. And so, to communicating with people and stuff, I don't really talk to a whole lot of people. And I'm hoping that over the next five years,

we can get the structure built for the company where I can maybe take a little bit of backseat on some things that I have to do on a daily basis and have more time for what I call fun. of stuff and learn about the locals and what they've experienced because the idea of somebody living with it and it's just like second nature for them as somebody from the outside looking in is so foreign and bizarre coming from the Philadelphia area where doing what I do nobody I felt like nobody even knew who I was in Philadelphia like nobody I felt like nobody listens I mean numbers why statistically I can see people listen in the Philadelphia area but it wasn't the culture up there isn't conducive for this kind of conversation. Here it is, and people do talk about

this stuff. It's very interesting to hear in the different locations throughout the country where this kind of stuff happens the way people are handling it personally. You know, before we start winding down here, I do want to hit on one more picture that you sent me. and you called it the Weber Grill. And I don't know if, because I mean you have like over 100,000 pictures, right? So I imagine you have more pictures of UFOs. But this one is, if you have clearer pictures of UFOs, I'd be impressed because this is this is broad daylight moving through the pictures.

So you have several pictures of it. and it's game trail camera and this looks like a metallic object to me. Is that how you perceive it too? Well, yeah, it looks very metallic, yes. Yes. And that's a very clear one. I have other ones, but that's a very clear

one. And that particular picture, that the camera was set again, I said it gives a trigger, it takes a picture in three seconds. And it was triggered twice. I don't know about that object. It was triggered or twice, that object's like eighth of a mile away. And it flew, it flew towards that tree.

And the next picture, a third of a second later, it's in front of that tree. And then the next set of pictures, the street figure is flying away ago. So it's not a balloon, it's not a, it's not a, it's not a, drone. It's an object that is defying gravity with no apparent way to do that.

I mean, it's flying on a horizontal line and turning without any gravitational effect on it. So it's flying, yes. That's a very good picture. That's a very classic, I think, UFO type picture. It's not real big. That's about eight feet across when it flies in front of the tree. you can get a concept of the diameter of it,

and it's about, I think about eight feet. So it's not a big UFO. But we have no technology that can do what that did in front of my game cameras. All right. So what you just said, do you feel like we don't have that technology or we just don't have access to that technology publicly? because I feel like our government probably has been reverse engineering the stuff for a while.

Well, of course, I don't have any knowledge of that. I mean, certainly you hear I think that Lassar, the guy, talk about Area 51 and things of this type. But, you know, I'm sure a lot of that's classified information. Unless one of the presidents bring it out in their garage, we won't know what it is. but I don't know that's another story. But could there be a technology that could fly and defy Bernoulli's principle? We don't have, I don't know if we have that. I mean, that does not have wings on it.

It's not using air pressure to stay afloat. There's no way that that could stay up by any of the Bernoulli laws. You know, you're such a unique person to be having this property and these experiences because, you know, like if it was, say I own the property, I have no science degree. You were a math, computer science teacher. I, like, you view things in a way that I personally wouldn't have view it just because I have no background to do that. I find it interesting that you landed on this property and this stuff is happening. This, this picture, It is super clear.

And the way it's positioned in the tree line, you can actually see it's not like it's something that's caught in a tree and hanging there. There's nothing connecting it. It is absolutely there. And you say it's eight feet. It was eight feet wide. I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. in front of the tree and the, yes. So on the topic of UFOs and this one particularly or whatever,

we talked about the interdimensional aspect of things, portals, where do you feel like this thing's coming from? Well, I mean, I mean, we have, the universe is 62.5 billion light years across. 62.5 billion light years. Now, we only, we used to think it was 100 million light years across until the latest telescope has been able to go out and do more, I guess would be measuring.

And now the universe is 62.5 million years across. the number of solar system, the number of stars is more than the number of grains of sand on Earth. Jeez. Take all the Sahara Deserts, all the beaches, take all those grains of sand, and the universe has more stars than that.

And every star, every star, the average number of planets, as far as they can tell now with the newer telescope, which is now not in our, no, not distorted by our atmosphere. There's approximately two and a half planets per stock. So there's two and a half more planets in our universe than there are number of grains of sand on Earth.

Now, we're approximately three, billion years old, I think. It takes 36 billion years, light years, to get across the whole universe. So in this process of having a universe that is that huge, it's certainly feasible to me that there is technology, which is far advanced to what we have. And would they want to come here with that technology? Would they want to study our technology? Would they want to study us?

Well, sure. Their individuals are beings like we are. I mean, you know, they were, they were, they're part of the same, you know, molecules and atoms that we are. The whole universe is, is, is, has a, uh, relationship through its,

it's, through the atoms and through the electrons, the trots and protons. That's what the universe is made of. And that's what we're made of. That's what we're made of. We have star material in us as atoms and electron and neutron protons. So would they be interested in the field that they would have an interest in coming and visiting and seeing?

So that's why I try to talk with the beast. And I think that it's a product of this whole universe. It is. I mean, there's tracks and you carry stuff away. I've seen. So I would say there is a, you know, a concept to that. Absolutely. Okay. So one last thing I want to go into before we end here. And that is something I have not seen. I would love to see it one day. But the alien picture that you referenced to me a couple of times. We make out of disclosure of financial concept, but I got you. It's a doorway, standing in a doorway of a UFO that is like 10 feet off the ground. Really? Wow. How big was the UFO in the picture?

I'm sorry, what? How huge, yeah. I mean, the camera only got the lights of it. I mean, but then there's a doorway, which could be a, portal because if you look through the doorway and zoom in, you can see a different background than in my field is. So it's either in a doorway of rectangular doorway of this on the UFO or it's in a doorway to another universe. Jeez. I love it. On that note, Mr. Lee Hample. I appreciate you joining me on the show today and sharing and introducing yourself to my audience. I have a feeling

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