The Confessionals - 661: Clash of the Celestial Powers

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

In episode 661: Clash of Celestial Powers, Julie Lopez, a former witch, unveils her generational ties to witchcraft and her escape from its clutches. Julie gets into her family's dark past, her early initiation into rituals like the ring of fire ceremony and demons speaking in tongues, and her chilling encounters with demons and angels. She explores the fear of demonic forces, the thin veil between worlds, and the secrets of astral projection and the demonic hierarchy. Discover the gripping importance of spiritual protection in this captivating conversation.Julie LopezWebsite: https://www.julie-lopez.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/yuyi_23YouTube: https://bit.ly/3whoNJ5Sasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESPrepare with Valley Food Storage: https://alnk.to/2uG55AOGet your Nephilim Blaster 2000: https://alnk.to/9mnHak1Bluecosmo Satellite phones: https://alnk.to/e769EipSee Bigfoot with Sionyx night vision: https://alnk.to/bEhxr3FEmergency medical with My Medic: https://alnk.to/dpr6QM4Black Beard Fire Starters: https://alnk.to/4BFcIbeEcoFlow Power Generators: https://alnk.to/flvpAQwGoDark Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/5jke3rkEMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - MissingYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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All right, today we have Julie Lopez coming on the show, and Julie is a former witch that came on the show to talk about warfare in the spiritual realm. She went through a lot of things. She lays it all out on this show. I had a great conversation with Julie, and I hope you enjoy this conversation. Let's get to Julie right now. All right. Today, we have Julie Lopez on the show. Julie, how are you? Hi, how are you? Thank you so much for your invitation. Absolutely. I'm glad you're here. I'm not exactly sure where I first stumbled across your work since stumbling across your work, you've been constantly randomly popping up on my Instagram page and things like that. And I remember reaching out to you and I'm really glad

to have you on today. Since I reached out to you and scheduled with you, I saw you popping up on different people's shows. And so I'm really excited about having you on this show today. And you and I spent some time kind of laying the groundwork as to where we're going today. you are a former witch and you have a story to share about how not only is this not it's not something that you woke up one day and decided hey I'm going to become a witch like some people do that you know they stumble into it and they decide to start pursuing it but this was a generational thing for you that it wasn't even a matter of a decision but just a lifestyle seems like correct yes yes so what I said to people is that I believe my story is

real because I didn't learn it in a book and I know there's a lot of people that learn it and they experience things but for me like my whole family was involved in these generations four or five generations of my grandmother great-grandmother my mom all of us were actually doing witchcraft and so it was part of our life that's yeah and I find that when people have that kind of involvement in it It's not really a starting point, but for you, it definitely is an ending point. Do you know where it all started, though?

I mean, as far as the family history goes, who brought that into your family's generations of witchcraft? So we don't actually know, and we believe it can potentially go even like years, through my ancestors. The last thing that I know is that my great-grandmother, she had this. gift. And so she was the one that was actively doing it in our family. And then she trained my grandmother, then my mom, and then my mom was training me. But we believe that's coming from even farther. So it didn't start with her. So we are talking about, who knows, maybe five, six, seven generations. We don't know. Wow. That's a lot of generations to push back against.

what does that look like for you, your involvement. Did you start out in a young age and doing this? At what point did you go from seeing your grandmother, your mother involvement to your involvement? What did that look like for you? So for me, since a really young age, so since I remember maybe like two or three, the first experience that I remember was my great-grandmother

actually taking me to a man. and they put me inside of a ring of fire. And I was really young. I just remember myself being inside of this circle and both of them doing things to me. But for me, that was normal. I didn't growing up, I never thought, oh, this is witchcraft, or this is weird,

because when you grow up doing certain things, they become part of your culture and they become part of your DNA. So for me, growing up, seeing my, my mom because by the point I was born, my great-grandmother was already 70 years. So she wouldn't do, she wouldn't be that involving witchcraft as much, but she will still do certain things. But for me, growing up, that involved me seeing my mother doing rituals, doing the cleansings of the house, doing all of the things to us, and having friends that were

witches and doing rituals. And then when I became a team, a year. That's when I started to be like more involved in that. So you said that this ring of fire, what kind of witchcraft is that? And what did that whole ritual? What was the purpose behind that ritual? Do you know? So at this point, I never asked my great-grandmother, to be honest, but I know that rings of fire come in different things. If it's made with leaves, with different things, it could be for protection, but also for initiation. So my great-grandmother, I mean, maybe they were initiating me by that point. And I started to experience so many spiritual experiences from that point that,

you know, I could see darkness, but I could also see angels. And my family wasn't even Christians. So it's not like they were putting in my head certain thoughts or comments. They were I wouldn't even hear them say anything about demons. So that's why I know this is real because from an age, my spiritual senses were activated. And it was like suddenly I was introduced into this spiritual realm. And I could hear these demons speaking in tongues. And I could hear them like entering the road and touching me.

So it was really a strong experience for me. So demons. And so, all right, I've never heard anybody say that before. You heard demons speaking in tongues. Yeah, yeah. So that was one of the first strong experiences that I had. I was around maybe like four or five, yes, four or five years old. And I remember I went to sleep with my mom.

I wasn't sleeping and I wasn't dreaming. I was awake. And I remember this being entering the room. And he was speaking in tongues. but his voice was evil. Like as soon as he entered in the room, the atmosphere changed, and I could feel this evil presence,

like fear and panic. And he was speaking in tones. All I could hear, he was saying, like singing, because he was singing in this weird language that I couldn't understand, but I know now they were like demonic tongues. And when he came next to me, he started to touch my legs.

And I could feel his hands were, really hot. And I believe what he was doing to me, he was releasing something over my legs, like some sort of course, because for many years, I had knee problems. Since I was young, I was always involving sports, dancing, doing basketball, ballet. And then as soon as I hit 13, I had like an issue on my knees, and I had to stop every type of sports, dancing, everything. And so I believe that for many years, that experience that I had with that demon impacted my life in many levels until a few years back. I realized that there was a course and I had to break that course over me. So I hate to go down this road because I don't want to jump the gun, but I don't want to forget either to ask you this.

So based on the idea that this demon was speaking in tongues over you, how do you view speaking in tongues then? I mean, is this a demonic language, an angelic language? Is it a godly language that demons learned from God? Let me tell you something. So that was the first time that I hear demons speaking in tongues. But growing up, as I was. was being trained to be a wit and learning all of these different things. When we used to do rituals, we used to speak in tongues to. And so to initiate the ritual, we were come together

in a circle, a circle means unity. And all of us will start to just speak in tongues and then invoke these demons. But when I became Christian, I realized that I thought, like, tongues for me were demonic. I always rejected tongues because of my experience. until one day, I believe the Holy Spirit told me, the enemy doesn't create the enemy copies. Don't think that demonic tongues are just for the kingdom of darkness, but the enemy has copied something that I have given to my people. And that's when I have to repent. And a few months later, I received this impartation of speaking in angelic tongues, like different.

And I knew, okay, this is from God, because now I'm realizing me coming out of it. of darkness that there are so many similarities between darkness and light and how the enemy tries to copy everything that was giving to us. And tongues is one of them. So I wouldn't say tongues is bad, but demonic tongues are bad. So it's just identifying the spirit. And if someone is speaking in tongues, identifying like, okay, what is this? What is the source of this and asking the Holy Spirit for guidance? Interesting. So when, so is there an actual, in your mind, a distinguishing, was it like a style of how, like, would the more angelic versus demonic speaking of tongue in tongues? Like when you're like you're speaking in tongues as a Christian, is there like an audible difference or is it more of a spiritual from the heart difference? I think for me hearing how demonic tongue sounds, I could say by hearing. By here, I think.

hearing, but also in the spirit. Why? Because you, when you are hearing those type of tongues, you feel fear. You feel like this darkness just enter the room. Like if you are sensitive in the spiritual realm, you notice it straight away. So for me, I could hear and identify this sounds demonic. But at the same time, in my spirit, I could tell, okay, this is, why there's fear in the room? because the presence of God and light doesn't introduce fear or darkness. It's the opposite. It's freedom and joy and, you know, all of that. So that's why for me I can identify from by hearing but also in my spirit.

So you said when they did the ritual when you were a child, you started seeing the spiritual realm, essentially darkness and angels. at what point did you start seeing angels? I mean, I'm assuming when you said that, you meant you were seeing angels while you were in witchcraft. And so what was that experience for you? Like, was it something where you knew what you were seeing and you viewed it as almost the enemy?

Or did you see what you saw and not totally comprehend exactly what it was? Exactly. I was so young that I didn't know, okay, what is good and what is bad. All I knew was that these experiences that I was having with these demons, for me, I was really scared. I had so much fear because that was what the atmosphere was bringing. But then when I, at the same time, because I believe at that point,

now that I grow up and that I understand more, I realized that at that age, there was like a fight for me. I felt that the angels were fighting for me. but also darnes were fighting for me, and I felt it, because almost at the same time, I had different accidents, I got hit by a car, and I felt literally how someone lifted the wheel of the car, and it didn't crush me. All I felt was my leg, the wheel of the car passing by, but I felt like someone lifted up, and I didn't have any issues, and at the same time, I also had another encounter where I was riding a horse and we were going really up like really high hill and all I

could see at the back were stones and mud if I mean I could have died and all I remember was I was literally falling and I was grabbing to my good father and as I was falling I felt someone grabbed me from my waist and pulled me on the ground and when I look around there was you you it was just me and then everyone was just looking like what happened how did she how did she stand and I literally stand I literally was standing between two gaps so there was a hole in here that I could have literally fall into that gap and die and my legs was like stepping into those two things and the hole was in the middle so all of those experiences at that age I realized now like it feels for me like there was a fight in the spirit.

At the same time, one of my aunts, she was Christian. And I remember that she was taking me to church, and I had flashes of when I became a Christian, why the Lord was preserving my life. And one of the reasons was because my aunt consecrated me for God. So even though my great-grandmother and all of us, they were just doing witchcraft, and I was having all of this warfare,

at the same time my aunt by taking me to church she was consecrated me in the altar so that's why there was like this fight of like no she belongs to light and no she belongs to darkness and that fight but i realized that after i become christian many years later i was asking god one day why i'd never die like i had so many cases so many opportunities where i think about those situations and I should have been dead. Why I never die God? Why I never? And I was just asking God, why?

And then he started to give me these flashes, these flashbacks of my aunt taking me in secret to this church and consecrating me in the altar. And now me having all of this warfare with darkness and then light. And so it was really impactful for me after I met God, how, you know, all of those experiences were, real for me. Yeah, it sounds like the actual warfare over your life was very apparent, even while you were within the witchcraft. You had mentioned about fear of demons,

and I'm assuming that fear of demons was there while you were pursuing witchcraft. Was that, is the demonic realm something that you were taught about to accept and embrace? Was there a sense of acceptance from your mother and your grandmother and you feared it? Or was it something that you were seeing, you were experiencing, but nobody around you would acknowledge? So when, especially for us that we were involved in witchcraft, we knew that even within witchcraft, there would be demons and spirits, bad spirits, that could enter. at the time of you doing a ritual or something. So you will have to do certain things to protect yourself from those demons. We also believe that, okay, if you leave those bad spirits and you don't do bad things,

those things won't come to you. So we were aware that the spiritual realm was real, but we were aware also of bad spirits that we could maybe work with and they can come and trick you. And so we were aware of that. For me, at that age, I was so young that I didn't know. And all I could feel was the fear coming in the room. But eventually, as I was growing up,

and as I was having more understanding of the spiritual realm, I realized that I was just partnering with darkness, even like without me thinking about how dangerous that was. Because now it became so normal that we believe, like, okay, we have the power. And if you have this power inside of you, you can control. And you can do certain things to bring protection to you. But at the same time, you can work with these entities to do certain, like, bad things and courses and rituals and things like that.

So at that age, I didn't know. They never told me. So it was just me knowing the atmosphere is weird and feeling fear. And growing up now, understanding that, okay, we are. witches, we believe in the spiritual realm. We believe in spirits of light, but there's also spirits of darkness that can infiltrate your house or the rituals on all of that. So we were aware of that. And then we ended up partnering more with those demons later on. So spirits of light, spirits of darkness, I mean, did you guys view the spirits of light

as angels, or were these like spirits that, you know, you just viewed as positive, but in reality were negative? Because it sounds almost like, to a certain extent, there's a lot of faith being placed in your own worldview and trusting that, oh, I believe that this is a positive entity, so I can dabble with this one. But this one's negative. So we're going to stay away from that. There's a lot of like reliance of my own faith and wisdom to differentiate between the two. So when you say spirits of darkness and spirits of light in those moments, when you say spirits of light, were those spirits of light angels or were they just perceived spirits of light? So we used to believe that those were angels and also like familiar spirits.

but this is dangerous because the Bible says that the enemy dresses as angel of light and a lot of experiences especially towards the end that we had we believe that they were good but in reality they were like there were demons there were principalities that were coming for us and at that point we never understood even though you know when you are a witch you know and you understand that okay there's good spirits let's say angels are canes angels, like we used to work with archangels, apparently. And then at the same time, knowing when an entity, a demon of a spirit is entering in the room, and you will have to do certain rituals to cleanse your house, to protect your house and your children,

and blah, blah, blah. So it was all, we knew, but darkness is really, is really interesting because they always, they are going to come to you as angel of light. they are going to present themselves to you as I am this archangel and I'm here to protect you. This is a spirit that came from your grandmother or for your great-grandmother and they sent me here to protect you. So they make you look like he's all good, but in reality it's not good because the source is evil. The spiritual realm is something that is really important for us to understand that accessing the spiritual realm, you can access it by many ways, but there is only one way that you can access the spiritual realm in the legal way.

All the other ways are illegal. So when you are accessing the spiritual realm through those entities, through those doors, you are basically becoming a thief in the spirit because you are accessing that through the way that's not the way and the only way is Jesus Christ. So the moment that you enter into that, you are dabbling and you are entering into you partnering and making a way. covenant with darkness without you realizing even if you think that you are just doing good things and white witchcraft and new age and all of these things that look like is just positive and good and good energies all of that's wrong because you are already accessing the spiritual realm through the wrong way so all of those things even if you think is good is bringing consequences

to your life and i'm telling you because in my life we we we were, we practiced different types of witchcraft, white witchcraft, black, witchcraft, green, all of those things, new age, meditation, astral projection, tired cars, tobacco, breathing, crystals, different type of rituals. So, and we move in all of those things and I know the consequences and the implications that that can have in your life because I am a living testimony only that the fact that I'm here today speaking and sharing this is because I was literally safe from that life. Me and my family, because even my mom right now, all of us, we came out of darkness,

and we're repentant for that. And now we believe that we are in God's kingdom now doing his work. So that's why for me this is important that people understand that the spiritual realm is real. The spiritual realm is real because this is a testimony. I didn't make this up. I didn't read this in any book or learning from anyone. This is my experience doubling with different type of witchcraft and how that impacted my family. That's wild. The fact that the generations of attachment in this realm are broken, that's a miracle in itself. when you were talking here about the spirits of light, it got me thinking, because I've talked to,

you know, over the years, I mean, we're coming up on 650 episodes. I've been doing this for seven years. We talked to a lot of different people. And one of the things that I've heard a lot over the years when it comes to the new age side of things, when people are involved in new age, they're actively working with their spirit guides. And those spirit guides treat them fantastic until they decide to start following Christ and becoming, going out of that life and into Christianity, it's almost a consistent thing that I've heard where,

and granted, I mean, I haven't talked to thousands of new age people, but the ones that I have talked to have said that their spirit guides became violent, became very dark, they saw a brand new side of that spirit guide. And I'm wondering, did you have any of those kind of instances when you started changing your lifestyle, that these spirits of light started showing a different side of them? Yeah. So by the time I was 12 and my mom had a witch that was moving in white witchcraft.

So she saw me and she told my mom, your daughter has a gift. Let me train her. So she started to train me about learning about the declaration of your words, how to control your dreams and reading white handles. So using all of the power basically for good things, right, to attract all of those good things and helping people and blah, blah, blah, all of that stuff, which is wrong. And then years later, we moved to a different city. We were in Spain by this point. and we moved to a different city and now my mom

started to become friends with another witch that she was moving in black witchcraft she will do white like she will jump between good and bad and all of those things when she saw me she told my mom the same

she said to her your daughter has a gift but she was so desperate like suddenly she saw something and she was just like desperate telling my mom your daughter has a gift we need to do something and my mom said, oh, yes, everyone has said that about her growing up, that she has something.

So my mom said to her, what can we do all? And this which said, okay, let's do a ritual and consecrate her to a spirit guide. Now, this spirit guide is a principality, but also this spirit guide doesn't accept anyone, only those that he choose, right? So you basically entered into the ritual almost exposed at another demon coming in. So it's basically this type of ritual is dangerous because you are asking this spirit, this spirit guy to come to guide you and to be your kind of like your mentor and blah, blah, blah. But then we were aware that something worse could come, right?

So we did the ritual and they dressed me in white, everyone was dressing white. they put me like in the middle of this circle and this witch she just started to invoke this demon and this spirit guide came and he accepted me so then that's when they realized like wow she carries something so powerful that this spirit guide won her so i was like okay this is great awesome great so what do i have to do now so they told me how i have to interact now with this spirit guide, I started to smell him because he had a weird smell and I started to speak to him now in the middle of the night and I started to see him in the spirit passing by. So when he accepted, you know, I started to feel like, okay, I might be really special because

they're telling me that I have something and this spirit guide only accepts certain type of people and he accepted me. So I was feeling like this is great. Then they just started to teach me how to interact with this spirit guide and how I could come to him to do rituals, basically like a mentor. And I started to hear him in the spirit also smell him and see him in the spiritual realm. Every night I will sit on my bed and I will just close my eyes and speak to him. And he will just enter the run and I will feel him passing by. and he would go all around my house like breaking things. I remember there was this night where I was speaking to him.

And he left the room. I saw him living. And suddenly I hear something in the kitchen breaking. And I had a cat, a blood cat. And I thought, okay, this is my cat. But when I went to see, my cat was in the other corner of the room. And he was sleeping in the other side. So when I went to the kitchen, I literally felt his presence.

And I knew he's been here. But for me, I wasn't scared. I wasn't, it was like my friend. So he will give me dreams and we have this coin that mean covenant between me and him. So all of that until eventually it started to become heavy because I started to have all of these suicidal thoughts. I started to now have nightmares and being depressed. And I tried to cut myself a lot of times and have. pills and they will take me, rush me to the hospital, and I couldn't get it. And I know that,

you know, when you cut yourself, that's a blood sacrifice. And these demons grow in power when you give them blood. That's why, like, satanism and all of these things, they do rituals with blood, whether it's animal blood or human blood, because they understand that, you know, this power, this entity gain power by blood and bisexual immorality and sin. So, by, by animal blood, me cutting, I didn't realize that I was giving him more authority and more power and more power to operate over my life. But I didn't know. And that was when at that point something crazy happened in my family that, you know, this, this, this demon literally now show his true colors. And, and something happened in my house that just changed completely the trajectory of our lives and how. we encounter God later on to. So was that something involving your dad and that part of your story? Yes.

So as I was going through the process, I remember by this point, I went to live with this witch, with the one that was training me and all of that. I was living with her. But before I went to live with her, we did a ritual in the house. So I live with her for like a week. And before that, we did a ritual in the entrance of the house with all love the witches. And we were there speaking in tongues, trying to speak to this spirit guide. Suddenly this witch started to be possessed.

So her face changed, her voice changed, everything. It was like you could tell that it wasn't her anymore. and suddenly this entity came and he started to speak through her. And this demon looked at me and my mom and he started to say, someone in your family is going to die in one week. Now, by that point, I was being tormented. So I thought it's going to be me. They are going to go and kill me.

I don't want to know. So I look at my mom, I started to cry. And this demon started to ask, do you want to know who it is? Do you want to know who it is? And I look at my mom. I was like, like, no, just let's close this. My mom was crying, crying, crying. So it was so shocking for everyone that we closed the session.

We closed it. And everyone was looking like, what just happened? Did someone, a demon just came in, a bad spirit, or what is going on right now? So we closed the session. I went with this week to her house. And one week later specifically, we received a call in the middle of the night. around five in the morning, five, six. And it was my mom calling this witch,

telling her to take me to the house quick. So she took me to the house. And when I went to my parents' house, my mom was outside with my youngest brother crying. She couldn't speak. And I was just asking her, like, what happened? Tell me, like, what's going on? She couldn't even say a war.

So I ran inside of the house looking for my dad. And I was just like, maybe my dad is going to divorce my mom. Maybe he just packed his things and left. So I went to his room, to my parents' room, looking for his clothes. But when I entered, the atmosphere in that house was insane, because you could literally feel the darkness. It was like you entering and suddenly someone put like a cloth, like a heavy cloth on you. And I was just trying to walk in that house, like feeling dizzy. Like, what is here? And then I saw the light in my parents' room on and I went in and I didn't see my dad. But the atmosphere in the room just felt so dark and I've run outside of the house and I was looking outside like, what is my dad?

And then I went to the storage that we have next to the house. And I just pushed the door and I saw my dad there and he committed suicide. He hung himself. So when I saw him there, like my whole world just crashed. and I was just panicking and crying like what's going on and the police came, the psychiatrists came, and they were giving me pills because I was losing it. That for me was like the worst experience of my life. And they took my dad and we stay in that house for like five, six more days. And we literally have to escape from that house because I could literally see my dad passing by walking,

like spirits were literally using the image of my father to make me crazy and they were passing by and I will see my father and I will be, dad is here and my mom looking like, what are you talking about? And I could see him passing by and walking and I was losing it. My mom told me that I tried to commit suicide in the first place, in the same place that he died. I don't remember that. I believe I was being possessed. I was, the house had this atmosphere. that all of us, my two brothers, my mom, me, we were having nightmares, dreaming with blood, and it was just crazy. And after one week, my mom decided we have to leave this house. We literally pack a few clothes and run away from that house. We even forgot our cat that was there because we were so desperate to escape from that house.

We just packed everything and run away. And that house, yes, that's how, Now we realize that demons now were coming to chase us because my mom by that point had another friend that was a witch too and she was one of her best friends and she was moving in white magic and all of that. The next day after that happened, she called my mother and she told my mom, I saw in the spirit your husband being chased by demons and your husband was asking for help. And my mom was shocked, like, what? She didn't know what just happened. So this witch in her, you know, in her, she was interested to know what was going on. Why is her husband being chased by demons in the spirit?

So she tried to astra project to our house. And she said that when she tried to go to our house in the spirit, she saw a black cloth all around our house. And she couldn't enter because there was someone of high rank. She even said that there's someone of high rank in your house and I cannot enter that house. So my mom started to cry so the witch knew that my dad died because she saw it in the spirit. So she went to our house to see what was going on, what happened. And my mom started to cry and told her like, yes, he committed suicide last night.

We, yes, that was before we escaped the house. So this witch told my mom, you have to leave that house ASAP because they are coming for you and for your daughter. And they are going to kill you if you don't leave that house. And if you continue to have partnership with the other witch, she's a witch of high rank. And she's coming for you guys. So eventually my mom at that point, something clicking her mind and she realized, okay, witchcraft just destroyed our family. So after five, six days, my mom just couldn't take it anymore and pack everything and we left the house. And she repented for witchcraft.

Even though she wasn't Christian, she just told God, God, if you exist, I repent for witchcraft. Because I know that us doing this open a portal in our house and that killed my husband and now my daughter. So me is trying to kill herself and she's been tormented. And even my mom tells me, I have never shared this. with anyone, but my mom said that during that month, because I lasted with my mom for one month. After that, I left her. I escaped. And I was 18 by that point.

My mom tells me that throughout that month, she was being so tormented that she could hear voices telling her, just drive with all of your children and just jump out of a cliff and just die. So she could even one time, as she was driving, she really felt like. she just have to do it, but something stopped her, and she was just herself. I was battling my own warfare, but she was also having all of these voices telling her, just commit suicide, just kill all of your children in that car, jump out of the cliff, and finish. But she was like so convinced of witchcraft that those were demons that she was just holding into the Bible, reading Psalm 91 and Psalm 23 and just telling God, like, if you exist, just do something.

So after one month, I left my mom and I went to live with my ex-boyfriend. At that point, I was destroyed in every area. I was an alcoholic. I was drinking almost every day. I was having now pills for anxiety, depression, panic attacks. I was doing witchcraft. I was depressed. My life was a mess at 18 years old.

I literally couldn't find a way. I was still trying to commit suicide, jumping out of the windows. People would call my mom, your daughter is trying to jump out of a window. Can you do something about it? Or your daughter just, you know, try to commit suicide. She's in the hospital. So all of these things throughout that year that I was experiencing, and my mom just having also hidden warfare, like, you know, her husband just committed suicide.

And now her daughter is trying to commit suicide. So it was like, my family, it was destroyed. My brother also was 13 years old At that point, he started to be now involving drugs and consuming drugs at only 12, 13 years old. So it was like our whole family was destroyed. We didn't have a way.

We couldn't see an exit. And it was just, we are next. We are literally going to be next. Until we have an encounter. And that encounter changed completely the trajectory of my family. of our generations and that's why I'm here today. Oh, you can't just leave me with cliffhangers there.

We need to know what the encounter is. I mean, what was that? Coming soon, part two, follow for more. Yeah, I, I, um, so, all right, I want to ask you about your dad. Was your dad involved in witchcraft like you and your mother was? No. He was never involved in witchcraft. He wasn't even interested in that.

Like he will see my mom and me doing things, but my mom will even do witchcraft on him. My mom will tell him, hey, you want to come. I'm just going to do this for you for your finances. Or I'm just going to do this for you for your protection. And my dad was like, nah, but he will do it to please her. But he was never involved in any of that or nothing. So as far as the suicide goes then,

was there outside of the spiritual realm, was there any reason to believe that your dad was suicidal? No, and this is a, when people, this was shocking for all of the family, all of the friends, his parents, so my grandparents from my father's side, because he was the most rational, calm, loving person that you could ever know.

He never had any drama or drug addictic, or things that will make you think like, wow, he did that because, you know, he's carrying with this. No, he was super calm. He never liked any type of drama. He wasn't dealing with any type of mental health issues. I mean, I know that by that point, he and my mom were going through a rough path and my father was trying to know if maybe divorce my mom and take me with him. so I was going to go to live with him. But on that day that he committed suicide, my mom tells me that days before,

they talk about, you know, being a family again. And on that Sunday, on the 28th of September 2008, 2008, we were supposed to go out as a family after months of being separated. And we had a plan to go and spend the whole day with all of the family and being together again. So they were sold. being this thing. So that's why for my mom was shocking on that morning. Like, why did you do that?

Like, we literally just talk and we've been trying to fix our situation and they were in good terms. And now suddenly he's gone. So that's why for all of us were like, how did that happen with a man that he was so mentally stable and never had any, we couldn't see any type of symptoms of like he's trying to commit suicide before. No, it was. One time he tried to commit suicide and he did it. And he left a letter. So he wrote something to us before he committed suicide. And they found a small bottle of alcohol next to the letter that clearly he was drinking that night.

And in the letter, he was just basically giving thanks to my mom. So it was like a good bye letter. Like, thank you for being an amazing wife. Please take care of the kids. it was just crazy. So if now we go to the spiritual realm, what this witch saw in the spirit when she called my mom asking what's going on before she even knew that my dad died,

what she saw in the spirit was during that night she could see my dad being like followed by these demons telling him to kill himself. And my mom tells me that my dad would wake up at 2 in the morning. And she thought, oh, maybe she's just going to. I go to the toilet and she went to sleep, but she knew that he was outside, that he went somewhere. So clearly my father was walking around the house at that point, thinking about stuff and being tormented because that's how this witch saw him in the spirit. And then he started to drink maybe out of desperation.

And the thing is, when you drink or you have drugs or alcohol, activate something in the spiritual realm. It makes you more sensitive to see things and to perceive things in the spirit. That's why in so many rituals, you do drugs or you have to be in this state because that connects you more to the spiritual realm and now you're more sensitive. So I believe it was a trajectory of things. And yeah, I have never shared that this is the first time. But yeah. Well, I think thank you for sharing that.

I hear you telling this story of your dad and it to me seems very clear that it is a very, very much of a spiritual battle. And when the other witch said that she saw the, I think you described it as demons following your dad around, for people who maybe have never seen such things in the spiritual round, they hear about it through shows like mine, but they never seen it. What would that look like? Would it have looked like like a dark shadow or a human, a human figure? I mean, or is it just the essence and the, I don't know how to describe it.

Maybe the vibe, like the understanding that there's something there. Or you actually, was she actually seeing something? In the spiritual realm, you see the demons. You see their shapes. You see their forms. eventually some people will see maybe shades, but you see them in the spirit. You see how they look like.

So the way that she was describing it, it looks like she could see the demons following my dad and trying to speak to him, and she saw my dad asking for help. My dad was going around like asking for help and asking for help. So that's why she tried to astral projecting the house because she was trying to go and see what's going on. But when she went to the house,

couldn't enter because she didn't have any legal right, any authority, and there was this cloth. So she couldn't enter. She couldn't help. She couldn't warn my mom. She couldn't anything. That's why a few hours later she called my mom, but it was too late because my dad already committed suicide. So when she was telling my mom that, my mom tells me that she saw my dad asking for help

and those demons like tormenting him and he's just being desperate and she trying to go to see what was going on and she couldn't, so that that's where, like, I was later, she called my mom. So, yeah. Wow. And do you think that it was probably the same demonic entities that were trying to drive your mother to suicide as well? Oh, yeah, definitely. The same ones that were coming for me, my spirit guide, even after I had an encounter with God, that spirit guide came still to torment me because there was a legal right.

there was a covenant between me and him. But there was definitely the same ones that were chasing my mom, chasing my dad, were coming. It was like our whole family was being tormented by these spirits for us to just die and just kill ourselves and our family to be just literally wipe out of the earth with my brothers, with my mom, myself, everyone. It was like, there was something in our lives that the enemy was like, no, that's it. you have to die, so we are coming for you. Do you think that that very thing has a do with where your life is now? Do you think that there was an awareness that they understood where your life was going to go

and they need to chop that off beforehand? A hundred percent. That's why when these witches, my mom was introducing me to this witches growing up, they could see, oh, there's something in your daughter, And especially this last one, she was like, well, there's something in here. We have to do something. So in the spiritual, you could see when people carry something so great in the inside of them.

It's like when, for example, now I pray for people and I prophesy over people. There's sometimes when I see the destiny of people in front of me. And I could literally see what they are going to do here on earth and the impact that they are going to bring here on. earth with their lives. And that's why the enemy, before they realize so what they carry, the enemy tries to stop that so they don't fulfill what God is telling them to do. That's why so many of you right now, like if you are watching this, you're going through so much warfare. And the reason why you're going through so much warfare is because of what you carry inside of you. So before you realize who you are, the enemy is coming to stop you from seeing who

you are so you don't fulfill the mission that God has for you here on earth. And I believe that was exactly what was happening to me, to my mom, to my family, like the enemy was just trying to wipe us out before we could actually know who we were in Christ and what was our mission here on earth. With your dad in this whole situation, do you have any inkling of an idea as to what specific entity was involved in this. I mean, you said something about the black witch being involved with your family. Is she introduced something? Because, I mean, your own spirit guide showed violent behaviors.

Do you think that it was your spirit guide that was involved? Or was it like a, maybe a group of these entities that were involved in this? In the spiritual realm, there's something important to understand, and is that demons working ranks, they don't work solo. they literally work in teams. That's why now that I'm a Christian, I don't like to see the vision within the church because demons understand unity too and they work in ranks

and they understand authority and they understand, okay, who is the strong man? We are the minions, so they submit. So what I believe is that this principality that I was consecrated to, it was like literally my whole family was consecrated to that principality. We give him access to our house through also the last ritual that we did in our house. So how does demons of high-rank work? They also have demons of low-rank that they would work with. So if he already has an assignment, this strongman, the main one in our house,

he will call the other ones to come in. Hey, come in, come in. So that's why there was it feels like there was more demons. But there was someone of high-rank, a demon of heaven. rank and the other ones were the minions trying to go around and torment us and putting these things in our minds and oppressing us and we will see things passing by in the house. There was like a whole, they were really organized. Now that I'm outside and that when I look back, I'm like, they literally were coming for us.

It wasn't just one. There was like a whole group of them that were working together to just come against us. yeah it's something that i i think as the years have going on with me doing this i've come to an understanding not that i i'm definitely no theologian or anything like that i would not be the person that would feel comfortable breaking down things technically for people but i have come to the understanding that there is a hierarchy in the spiritual realm and there's an there's an order to things uh and i i think and i this is actually maybe a little bit of a different topical but I just want to ask you since it came to my head, have you ever had reason to believe or even

experienced within that hierarchy of the demonic realm conflict with these beings with one another? You talked, you talked mentioned about the organization side of things, but in my mind, I can't get past the idea that if there are beings and spiritual entities, fallen angels. I'd like to call, I call them more rebelled angels. If they're, if they're rebelling against God, if they really have that will to see the glory and rebel against it, I imagine over time there, there would be some kind of rebellion amongst each other within the ranks. Like, there's got to be some kind of ego there. It's like, you know, there's got to be some kind of demon out there that's like, no, this guy's not better than

I'm better than him. Have you ever experienced anything with that within their own demonic ranks? What I have realized is that there are certain demons that don't work well along with other ones, so they reject themselves. Now, if we go to people, this is why when you see someone and they carry a spirit and then you see another person and there's conflict between both of them. is because in the spiritual realm, these two demons don't work well together. So I have seen that. And I think it's possible too because, you know, there is still evil things. So even though they are organized and they work in rank and they work in groups and, you know, they understand authority and all of the stuff,

there's also times where they cannot work with certain spirits. Yeah. Okay. So you had mentioned about that the witch doing the astral projection to the scene. And we've had astral projection pop up on the show here and there. And, you know, I guess my question into this topic for you would be, you know, it's one thing to hear about astral projection like myself. It's another thing to be involved with it and do it. Have you ever yourself done astral projection?

Yes. I did. So I'm not going to ask you how to do it because I don't want to know. And there's people out there that may want to do it and they probably shouldn't. But once you've done it and you're in the astral realm, could you maybe describe what that's like as far as maybe the feeling, what you're experiencing, what you're seeing? is it that much different than this physical realm that we have here that we can feel?

Because for somebody who's never done astral projection, I hear about it, but I have no tangible thing to hold on to say, oh, I understand that. It's just something that I hear about, but I've never had that experience. So for me, when I was in that world, sometimes I did it out of not even realizing that I was doing it but there was other times when I was aware that I was doing it even when I became Christian there was a time where I felt literally I was living my body and I was like no no no I am a Christian

I was fighting it so how would it be how is the feeling when you are doing it when I was doing it and I knew that I was coming out of my body It's like I started to feel dizzy and I knew that I was entering into some sort of like trance or some sort of like tunnel, something. And then I will see myself now coming out and I will see my body there. And then it's literally like you could literally pass through walls

or fly or go to a different dimension. It's just crazy. And I remember there was one time where I literally went to see one of my friends. and I saw what she was wearing. I saw her having an argument with a boyfriend and I knew because I was hearing the conversation. They break up. And so when I came back, I grabbed the phone and I messaged her and I said to her, are you okay?

And she said to me, why are you asking? I just broke her with my boyfriend. And I said to her, I just saw you. You were wearing this and this. And I saw you. And she was like crazy. How do you know that I'm wearing this and my head is like this? So that's how can it is.

You can literally travel to different places. For me, it's like you live, I feel literally sometimes like I'm just flying or I'm literally just walking by and passing through. Well, I don't do this anymore, by the way. Like passing through walls and passing through things. So in the spirit, like there's no material. It's just all like it. It feels like gas. Like you're just passing through all of these things.

And the things that you see, how I perceive things in the spirit. So when I used to do it, if it looks the same, but it looks like there is like a bale. For me, like perceiving it was like a cloth, like a really thin cloth that I was walking through, moving like that in the spiritual. So I could see the natural realm. But it was divided. by this thin cloth passing by that I will know I'm walking now into two dimensions now. So this is interesting. And just to clarify, you don't do it anymore. I know you mentioned it. I just want to say it too. But you mentioned about this thin cloth-like veil. Would that be what you would describe as maybe the spiritual

veil because even on this interview you've mentioned about portals and would a portal be just that piercing that spiritual veil and things from the astral realm, the spiritual realm, being able to have that entryway into this realm of existence that people are having? Yeah. We used to believe also that on Halloween, right? the bail between the two words was really thin and you could literally pass by the other realm super easy and get the information

that's why on the 31st there's so many rituals and witches because they understand that I so thin that you could just pass by and get all the information and all of the rituals everything is going to be more powerful on that night so I believe that thing that bail that thin bail is the division between the natural realm and the spiritual realm. Why on Halloween is the veil thinner?

I mean, maybe you could give your perception as a Christian versus when you were a witch. I mean, you had this understanding when you were a witch that the veil was thinner that day. We also know that's Halloween when people, you know, walk around doing trick-or-treating and the whole ritual behind that. but from your perceptions, why was the veil thinner? Because on that night, it was believed that the spiritual, specifically on that night, it was thinner. So that's why there is like a whole story of the sham hain or something like that. Sorry for my pronunciation and with the trick-or-treat and this entity used to come and the people used to leave food outside for this entity.

So that's when it comes the trick-or-tree. So you're literally feeding, giving a food offering to these demons because that's what it is. You give food offering to the demons so they don't come to you, so they don't attack you, or food offering, or money-offering, or drink offering. That's why Halloween is so dangerous. And people don't realize that you're literally just doing a ritual

of food offering to these demons. And the pumpkins, what it represents, there is a ritual that is done with pankins to a demon that is called Oshun and is represented with the pumpkins. And what you are doing is basically welcoming that spirit to your house, welcoming the division in your marriage, welcoming the sexual immorality in your marriage. And so that's why in that night, everyone is aware, like people that are involving spirits and new age witchcraft. Because on that night is like a bunch of people doing rituals. all of that energy concentrated, but at the same time in the spiritual realm, it's like the portal

is open. That's why it's kind of like easier because it is, it's been like that for generations and centuries on that night specifically. So that's interesting. I'd never heard that part where, you know, you're feeding, you trick or treat and you're feeding the demon to leave you alone. So the imagery there, though, I mean, so you have a bunch of kids running around dressed in costumes going and getting fed in almost like they're taking on this role of that demon that wants to be fed. So you have to feed the kids are almost taking on that role. I've never heard that before. It's very interesting, very interesting. So the, the, the, the astral projection side of things, I've heard about the silver cord. Is that something that's a

tangible thing that you have experienced to where you see this silver cord attached to you? I guess is it a spirit or a soul that's astro projecting out of the body? I'm not exactly sure. Well, there is something that is connected. And I know I had someone that shared her testimony. She used to meditate a lot. And she said that she used, she wasn't even Christian. Her mother was, but she wasn't. And she used to just come out of her body constantly and travel to places and see things in the spirit and see demons. But there was one occasion where she came out of her body, she says. She saw her, when she came out, there was a core link to her body. And when she was coming out, when she tried to come back, she couldn't enter because there was a demon. She saw the demon choking her in bed.

It was choking her. And she was like. Literally, she panicked. But then she realized that her mother was a Christian, so she started to call up on the name of Jesus. Jesus, help me, Jesus, Jesus. And suddenly she felt a hand, pulled her inside of her body, and she heard a voice telling her, don't do this again. And she felt like someone. So suddenly the core pulled her back to her body, and she wake up, and she repented,

and she got back her life to Christ. But she describes the experience. I never experienced that. You know, I'm seeing demons trying to stop me from entering in my body. But she tells the story that, you know, that she saw the core and she saw this demon literally stopping him from entering. And then when she cried out to God, the hand just pulled her back. And the Lord rebuk her.

Like, don't do this again because I won't help you anymore. And when she came back, she started to cry and she gave her life to Christ. and she is a crystal now and she doesn't do that anymore. So I know it is real. That's like a holy slap on the hand. Stop it. Don't do it again. All right. So I have

two more things here that I want to hit before we end here. One is more of a I guess personal side of things. So when we're talking about astral projection, is it possible

so if somebody out there has ill will towards me like I was telling you about before we started recording that you know I have a very diverse audience if somebody out there had ill will towards me and they were dabbling with witchcraft or you know

some really dark magic or something and they wanted to astral project to my location to harm me is that a possible thing just by the will or do they need to have any of my possessions to be able to do that, to know where I live? Is it or is it just a mere thing of I don't like Tony? And so I'm going to ask to project to him tonight and try to kill him. So I want to share a testimony and I hope I answer this. When I became a Christian, one of the things that I was concerned about was now,

this witch is astro-projecting and coming to look for us. Because I know that when you're doing rituals or something, you look for where the person is. You can see, okay, this person is in this place, this person is in this city, and they are doing this and this. So you know. So I was concerned. And one night I had a dream.

And in this dream, I have kind of like a cloth of invisibility upon me. And I was walking through this house. And I saw a room. The lights were on. So I opened the room. and I saw those two witches in bed, the one that was doing the black magic and the friend in bed, and they were doing witchcraft.

I could see and hear everything that they were doing. And all they were saying was, I don't know where they are, so they were referring to me and my mom. I don't know where they are. I'm trying to see what they are doing, in what country, what city, I cannot see. And I could hear them saying,

all I see is this white light around then we cannot see more. So when I realized that they were looking for us, I came out of the room really quiet, and then I wake up and the Holy Spirit told me and you're protector now and your light, you're covered by me, which means in the spiritual realm,

yes, they can look for you. If you don't know, that's why like some times where you're going through transition, it's better for people not to know anything of what you are doing, where you are going, nothing because if people have bad intentions they can come to you and trying to kind of like stop what you are supposed to be doing in that season so when I wake up I realized that now there was this the Lord was protecting me and there was a white light around me that was

blinding them from seeing where we were so they are going to see in the spirit first where you are and they can in the spirit yes astra project they don't need your objects or your things to go to your house. Now, I think the most important thing to know in here is how is the state of your house? Are you protecting your house? Are you living in holiness? Do you have certain objects in your house that open the door to demons? Or is your house protected? Because also, when people last year project, they can see the state of the house. If it's covering darkness, if it's someone of her rank in that house, or if your house is covered in the white cloth of light and brightness and they cannot enter because Jesus is in that house.

So I hope that answered your question. Absolutely, absolutely. And I asked that because, well, I mean, so last month I came out with an episode where I had somebody here in studio and him and I are talking, and I had two other people at the tables there was four of us there. And two of the guys had stayed at my house the night before, and we were doing some work for a documentary the next day. And we sat down with this guy, Hunter, to do an interview before we set out on our work for the day. And Hunter was sharing his experiences and stuff. And the last thing, he was very hesitant to share with me. And basically,

he asked me if a certain number meant anything to me. And it took me back because it's a four-digit number. It's my house number. And he then told me, and Hunter is, he's a worship leader at his church. He owns his own business, highly involved in his kids, sports. Very busy guy. And he said that he had a dream last July. And he actually texted me last July saying he had a dream about me. I never even asked him what it was. I was just like, whatever, you know, I didn't even think about it. And he didn't tell me. until he was here in studio just a couple months ago. And he said that he had a dream that he was at my house. And my house number was the number that he gave me.

And he said that he was standing at the end of my driveway. And he accurately describes my house, the way my driveway is shaped. Even the road that my driveway comes off of. It was very, very accurate. And he said that it was nighttime. And he saw me getting out of my pickup truck. and he said when I got out of my pickup truck, there was two black cloaked entities or figures, humanoid figures, standing behind me.

And he said, I walked back behind my house and those two cloaked figures walked behind me and followed me into my house. And it shook me. It shook me big time because I had just got done doing an interview of a couple weeks before that with a pastor in California. who, long story short, he had, his father had passed away, who was a pastor, and then one of his father's friends came to him, this is years ago, and said, God told me, I'm going to be your spiritual father now.

Here's a book, and you need to read this book, because spiritual warfare is coming towards you, your way. And the book that he was given, he just kind of set to the side, and he didn't read it for eight years. And then that man called him again, who was a missionary in Chile, I believe, and he said, I'm coming to the States to see you. You've been disobedient. The spiritual warfare is starting a week from now, and you haven't read that book. And sure enough, a week later, Anton LeVay's daughter walked into his church, and she was fleeing the church of Satan. And he didn't know who she was, and he took her into his home. And it started this whole spiritual warfare. That book,

that he was told to read and he didn't, I had heard about and bought two years ago and just let it sit on my nightstand. I never read it. And I told him, I said on the recording, I mentioned how I felt like, I feel like God had been preparing me for the last couple of years for strong spiritual warfare my life. But I just never had any direction with it. It was just a sense. And so it was like two weeks after that recording, I had started reading that book. And then Hunter's here and studio telling me what he saw in his dream. And I took it as a confirmation. Hunter told me in July he dreamt about me. I didn't ask then. And I feel like it's because it wasn't meant for them. And I took that dream as a confirmation that, yes, there's spiritual warfare coming. Because in that two-week

gap, as I was reading that book, I started thinking, am I overreacting with everything that I do for a living, all these conversations I have with people, am I reading into it too much? And am I just starting to think that, you know, maybe spiritual warfare has not come my way. It's just, I hear too many spooky stories. I just took it as a conformational piece. And so that's why I kind of went in this direction with you, because to me, it seems like Hunter had an astral projection experience through the dream state, whether it's a lucid dream or whatever. And I just, what those entities were and are, I personally, and Hunter actually does too, get the sense that it was more human than demonic.

And when I talked to Pastor Dave Bryan about this, the guy who I was telling you had LeVay's daughter coming to church, I called him and talked to him about this. I never said anything outside of what I shared with you. He is the one who said that when I was done telling him, he said, those were druids that were following you into your house. And I was thinking myself, well, that's interesting. I didn't really know what to do with it. And so since this whole thing has happened, whenever the opportunity strikes with you, clearly, I bring it up just for, for your opinion on the situation, I mean, not that I need that, that you have the answers for me

or anything like that, but I'm in this period of my life where I'm in this process of discovery and understanding the spiritual realm. And it seems like it might be turning more personal towards me. And I'm not scared. I'm not scared. And that's one thing that I, I guess I get accused of sometimes online with through my conversations with people like yourself. I might come across to people who maybe don't understand my heart behind it as cocky. I'm not cocky. I'm very, very, very confident in who I am, why I'm here. And the whole reason why I'm here being God placed me here, I don't have reason to fear

because I sit in the palm of God's hand. And so I'm not fearful, but I would like some understanding as to what's going on. Well, I believe you are literally touching on something that you are entering into the enemy's camp. You cannot enter into the enemy's camp and not receives some sort of retaliation. So you literally bring in all of these people that have experience kind of like to expose darkness and to make people aware that there is a spiritual and this is real, this is what is happening. And eventually there's going to be people that are going to be happy. They're not going to be happy.

Even myself, since I started to share my testimony, it was like I'm putting myself here in the open and I had a lot of people. I know which is trying to come to the house and all of that stuff. But as I said, when you know who you are in Christ and when you are standing, eventually you also need to make sure that you are living the right way. Because if no, it's like you're entering into a spiritual warfare, but you are not prepared or you are no. You have to be prepared your house, pray over your house.

If the Lord is showing those type of things coming. And this goes for everyone that is experiencing this. You know, if in the spirit someone is coming to your house, well, you know that something is there because the Lord shows to redeem. He doesn't just show for no reason for you to see. He's showing for you to act, for you to also do something about it because it's warfare. Whether it's true, okay, now I'm sensing something. Something is happening.

okay, it's increasing. I'm going to anoint my house. I'm going to anoint by children. I'm going to pray Psalm 91 over my house, Psalm 23 over my whole house. So it's also you like doing, doing things. But it's true when you entered into this world, into this spiritual realm and exposing and giving people the platform and the opportunity to speak their experiences, the enemy is going to be afraid. I have so many situations where every time that I'm trying to share my testimony, the Wi-Fi goes off, of the electricity, or if I'm in a church, suddenly everything goes off. Why? Because the enemy doesn't like us to be sharing, exposing his kingdom so we can know that there is actually a fight because we have so many people that are passive. They said, I'm a Christian. I don't have anything to do. Everything is that. It's like, no, Jesus did it all on the cross. but you have to reinforce that victory on the cross. So don't just sit in there and go to church

and pretend that everything is done. There is a war in the spiritual realm, and the church needs to awake, and we have to be prepared and be ready and actually be trained and come all together as the body of Christ to push back darkness and push back what the enemy has been trying to bring to our cities and our nations and governments.

and all of the side. Yes. But also, let me add something. Okay. Christians also can experience those things. So remember that the enemy copies everything, right? So when we are talking about astral projection, they do it out of that because they want to do it.

Sometimes they don't want to do it and it just happens, but most of the time they are doing it because they want to do it. But now, when you become a Christian, Christian, you can experience those things, but you don't do it because you want to do it. You do it by the Holy Spirit. That's why in the Bible we see Philip. It says that the spirit took him to a different city. He was teleported.

He was gone. So you literally, and I had experiences as a Christian where I had angels coming telling me to go with them. And I'm like, I don't want to do this. And they take me and they show me things in hell or heaven. and different places. So I know that can happen because the enemy copies. But we don't do it because we want to do it. We are submitted to the Holy Spirit.

And he is the one that allows us to see certain things, to take us to certain places, maybe to warn people. So I just want to also make that clear that it is possible for Christensen. That's interesting. Yeah. And, I mean, I gathered because the guy Hunter, that was on my show, I've spent time getting to know is that was his second time being on my show. And we had been in communication. I like the guy. And, you know, I have no reason to doubt that he is a Christian and he's not

masquerading as, you know, maybe he's actually, actually a black witch and just really out to get me. Maybe, but I don't think so. So, so his experience was involuntarily. It happened because I think It was for a purpose that God had ordained. And so that's how I view it right now. And it definitely woke me up to a lot of different things. You mentioned Psalm 91 several times on the show. I have prayed it over my house, my property, my pigs out back, and chickens. Like, I just, I am very much, and I'm trying to get more and more.

I want to become more of a second nature for my self. to wake up every morning, put my feet on the floor and say, it's wartime. Like, every day is ready to fight. And I think a lot of times we wake up and we just go through life on default. And I'm trying to be more intentional with how I live my life from the moment my feet hit the floor to the time I go to bed. So, and I could, I could talk to you, I'm sure, for much longer on the idea of the angels coming and saying, come with us. and like that's, I'm really refraining from going down that road right now

because you mentioned a couple of times and I would like to maybe end it with your encounter with God that probably changed, I'm assuming, listen, if you encounter God, it changes your life. I mean,

ask Moses. I mean, he couldn't even look at God without God's glory killing him. So if you could share with people what that encounter was and obviously the impact that it left on you. So after I mentioned that after one month of my father died and I left my mom. And I was just throughout that year, I was just a mess. But then I went to visit my mom to the city where she was staying.

And we hear about this church that they were giving prophecies. So eventually, okay, we want to know about the future. Let's go. So we went there. and all of these people were basically prophesying and saying over us, you're going to move to London, you're going to study, but they were saying the same prophecy for me, for my brothers, for my cousin, for my mother got angry.

And she started to say, like, you are witches. Why are you just literally saying the same thing? She was so offended in front of the church. She was like, this is witch crap. And we left the church. She was so angry. We left. But now I started, I went back to my.

city and I started to think like, how? Okay, what if there's something prophecy and I can just go and find my future and a church or something? So I started to ask friends about a church and someone gave me the address of my closest city to go there to a church. And I remember I wanted to go there because I feel in my spirit there was something waiting for me there, but I didn't know what. Remember, like all of my life, I experienced darkness, fear, abuse, everything that you can imagine. It wasn't even positive, like happiness or joy. So when I went there, it was a small church. And I remember I step into the church and this presence fell on me.

And I was shaking. And I was trying to identify what am I feeling? I feel weird. I feel like joy. I feel like suddenly all of this thing in my chest and now the apostle of the house came and he hugged me and I started to cry, to cry. I literally felt like I was coming home,

like I was coming back. And he told me, welcome home. And I started to cry. And I could feel the presence of God fell on me so strong that I fell on the floor and I was just shaking. I couldn't stop shaking. And you kind of made that up because no one ever told me, oh, you know, when you have the presence of God,

you can experience His love and his presence and you shake or you cry or you laugh. I didn't know that. And I found myself there on the floor of that small chart on the floor literally crying under the presence of God. And every time that I went to the church, I went to the church for one year. Every time that I went to the church,

I will leave that place touched and wrecked by the presence of God. Every time I will leave that place shaking and touched by the presence of God. You cannot make that up. That experience, those experiences were it will make me gravitate towards God because I knew this is addictive. This is nice because I have experienced so much darkness and I gravitated towards darkness and now God wanted to make sure that all I experienced in that season was just his spirit. presence, his love, light, and that was what pulled me out of darkness. And then after I gave my life to Christ, and we moved eventually to London, and I was studying there, and I was

attending a church there now. But that's when warfare for me started, because even though I was a Christian, I accepted God, this spirit guy now was coming to torment me, and he was coming to moving, like moving the things in my wrong and touching my legs and opening the drawers and I didn't know what was going on. That's when I started to feel fear. Like, okay, I think these are demons. I think this is bad. And that's when I entered a process of breaking those covenants and breaking those legal

rights with darkness. And now my husband didn't know my story. He nailed that my dad died, but he didn't know the whole witchcraft stuff. And through a dream that he had, he wasn't even Christian, but at this point I was. And he comes one day, I was pregnant with our firstborn. And he comes and he tells me that he had a dream and in the dream he saw someone coming asking for permission to come to me. So when I ask him, like, can you describe how this person looks like?

And he described my spirit guide. So now I knew there is a legal right here. So I have to tell my husband the whole story of my past of the witchcraft. of the consecration, and I remember both of us be sitting under a tree in a parking London, me pregnant seven months, and me telling him the whole story. So now my mom was Christian by then.

I have to call my mom and just tell her, hey, this spirit guy is still around. What do we do? By that point, my mom converted, and she was learning about deliverance, me too. So we realized, I think there is a legal right, we have to break it. So we came together, we pray, we repent,

we broke the legal right. And then my husband a few weeks later tells me that this demon tried to come back again. But this time he knew that he told him, you don't have any legal right leave. So he left and he never again came back. Wow. So your spirit guide had to go to your husband for permission because of your marriage. Because he was my covert. Wow.

mom anymore. It was my husband. So my mom gave him the legal right, but my husband had to remove it because he was my cover now. Wow. So when I'm speaking you that they understand rank and authority, I'm not making it out. They do. Yeah. They do. That's incredible. And it reminds me of a previous conversation I had not too long ago with a woman named Vicky Joy, Vicki Anderson. And she was talking about something similar where, and this is something I had never thought about before, she said that, she said that her father, I don't believe she's married. So it's for her, it's her father. But she said, she was talking to women specifically that were listening. And she said, your father, or if you're married, your husband can enter in on your behalf in defense of you

in the dream state. So she's talking about people being attacked spiritually. And she, she would pray that God would send a somebody to protect. I'm definitely butchering the story, but basically her father would start appearing in these dreams of hers and protect her and escort her out. And not that her father, her in this realm was having a dream and dreamt that, but the, I guess the image bearer of her father entered her dream and protected her. and she talked about that very thing that the the the legal rights and i just i find it very interesting uh and and as a father of two kids and a husband i've been married for 17 years it's 17 years and i

feel like i'm just now starting to understand the gravity of not only hey i got to protect my family from this realm of intruders of my house but in the spiritual realm, that attack happens more than the physical. And so it's taking a figure. The man represents something so powerful. And that's why the enemy is trying to remove men from society and from the houses. And why? Because men actually represent something powerful in a house. They bring identity that the father brings identity to their children, but also is the cover of the family. So that's why there's so much attack against the head of the house, against men, against boys and the abuse and fathers leaving their children. And now these boys growing up with, you see in society what was going on is actually with the young people.

They are fatherless. We have a fatherless generation. And this is a strategy of the enemy because, you know, how important it is for a man to be established in a house and understand his authority. and what he carries and that he is the covered of the house and Jesus is his cover, but he's also covering the house. So it's another topic. Yeah, I'll tell you, this was a fascinating conversation. I really enjoyed it. And if people want to get a hold of you, if they want to look into your ministry and things like that, where would you like to point them to?

So I have my YouTube channel, Julie Lopez. I do teachings there videos also on my website. I'm opening a mentorship program starting in August, so people can go there too and subscribe, and I'm just going to be talking everything and training people in the liberal arts, in the spiritual warfare, and how to protect their house and doing all of those things. And I'm also on Instagram, I'm everywhere.

So people just have to look for Julie Lopez, Instagram and that's where I'm more active right now and doing lives there and praying for people and all of the stuff there. And I also have a private community on Telegram and the link is also on my Instagram where people can find all the information there. That's great. Yeah, we'll leave the links in the description of this episode. But I appreciate you joining me. This was, we scheduled this I think about two months ago, and I'm very glad that we were able to connect today. So thank you very much. Oh, thank you for the invitation.

And yeah, this was probably one of the best interviews I had. I gave more information that I did in previous interviews. So thank you for the space. Thought my old motto was a VA. I was working for a cylinder step. Dreams running on fumes don't rest. You could bugger for my soul for a mention in a couple billboards. less, yeah, thank God for a couple roadblocks, I don't know if I'd stop for the road

And years on the sidelines trying to be the highlight riding in the bright lights Breaking all the guidelines, yeah, missed a bull with no lifelines, yeah, screaming, I don't need you, uh, fighting but I'm free to, uh, neon lights make a path for my breath like smoke in the cold every weekend.