The Confessionals - 674: Heaven Stormed

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

In episode 674: Heaven Stormed, Randy Kay, an author and former biotech CEO, joins to share his profound near-death experience and the life-altering journey that followed. Randy recounts how a medical crisis led him to an encounter with the God, where he experienced the wonders of heaven and received a revelation about the end times. For 14 years, Randy kept his story to himself until a series of divine prompts convinced him to share his experiences through his books "Dying to Meet Jesus" and "Heaven's Storm." Randy describes the ethereal landscapes of heaven, his interactions with Jesus, and the incredible sights he witnessed, including a prophetic vision of the end times. Despite the joy and peace he found in heaven, Randy was sent back with a mission to share his story and the urgent message he received about the coming storm.Randy KayWebsite: randykay.org YouTube: @RandyKayMinistriesMEET TONY AT8/1/24 - Armed Media Conference: Click HereSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - Imago DeiYouTube | Apple | Spotify

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I'm doing great, Tony. It's great to be with you. I watch your show and I really, it's dominated my schedule now too much. I've got to say. Well, I free, thanks for the download. I'm always surprised that sometimes the people that reach out that maybe listen to the show or her have seen the show here and there. Actually, you know what? I probably, I'll tell you after, people hate when I do this. I want to say sorry in advance to everybody listening right now, but I don't think I can say this publicly, but I'll say it in the back end to you, Randy, after we're done recording, who reached out to me a couple months ago. It was pretty surreal. but you just never know who's actually listening and stumbling across your stuff. But you, sir,

have some interesting work. Now, you're an author, and we were just talking before we started recording. I was actually prepping on the wrong book today. So we're going to hit two books today that you have come out with. But I do want to start with the older book first here, which is dying to meet Jesus. Why would you do that? Every once in a while, I come across somebody who, you know, has a story where they, they died and had some kind of interaction on the other side and came back to talk about it. And it's interesting because you, on this side of reality, on this side of life, you're left wondering and pondering what is on the other side, you know? And I think anybody who is realistic and honest with themselves, even if they're very strong in their faith, when you think about things sometimes, you say, well, what if I'm wrong? You know? And so it's always nice to be able to talk to people who have, you know, died, had an experience and come back because there are people who have died and don't remember anything from the other side. They don't have any recollection. I believe there's a man in my church with that story where he just, he died. He was dead for,

I think, 15, 20 minutes, and he came back. And to him, it was a blink of an eye. He doesn't remember being dead, but he was. And so for you, though, that's not necessarily the case. I'd like to hear your story about that. Yeah, mine was fairly extensive, but I did not want to share it, Tony. In fact, I didn't share it for 14 years. Now, I had written business books. I had written for Forbes magazine, Wall Street Journal a little bit. I'd been in the corporate world. It was a CEO of a biotech company. And I didn't believe in NDE experiences until I had my own. So I was invited actually on God TV in Florida to discuss a new book based on some research we had been doing. It was more in the personal development side of things. And only a handful of people really knew about my

story, one being a pastor, former pastor that was one of the host of this program. It was called God at Work. And so he invited me to interview. And then he said, during a dinner the night before, he said, can I ask you about your afterlife experience, your experience in heaven? And I said, well, you know, I haven't shared publicly with anyone, you know, 14 years. And he, and but if you feel led, go ahead. And so long story short, he did. It was a snippet. And then he came back and he said, well, don't worry, you know, about 100 million people have seen you now share this story. So I felt like the cat, proverbial cat was out of the bag. And I was flying back from Florida back to San Diego. And then I just, I virtually dropped my cranberry juice, you know. And I felt God's saying

this. I felt him saying, I want you to share our special time together. And it was the first time I'd heard that voice so pronouncedly tell me that I was to share it. And that's when I wrote the Dying to Me Jesus book, which was essentially a story about turning joy, suffering to joy, but it first mentioned my story and then people ask for more details. And then there was one situation that I could not share about heaven that Jesus had told me I could not share explicitly about what he termed the storm and until or if I received some signs or confirmations that I could share about the storm and so I did receive those I talk about that in the book and that's how I wrote that other book Heaven Stormed. Wow, that's wild.

So that's what Heaven Stormed is about. What did you die from? Yeah, well, that's a good question. So I had been in the clinical space and trained in the clinical space as well, had led clinical teams. So I should have known what was going on. But I'd been out in Washington, D.C. to introduce a new drug for what would have been a cure for Alzheimer's. and then long story short on that, the FDA pulled the drug because of some inincidences during the clinical phase three trial.

So I was looking for a new position and I was coming back on a long flight after interviewing. I woke up at 3 o'clock in the morning. I had a sortness in my calf. I thought it was maybe a strain that I had had from the previous day. This was like 3 o'clock in the morning. so I went on a bike ride along the coast, and I could not breathe. My calf had swelled to about one and a half times its size. I struggled to get back, went to get an anti-inflammatory from the doctor, collapsed, rushed to the ER.

The physician said you were walking dead man because of all after the scans, they found seven blood clots in my pulmonary artery, which had occluded the main blood flow to the lungs. And then I contracted a resistant bacterial strain, resistant to drugs, which caused clotting throughout my body, which was like a traffic jam of clotted blood cells at this point. And I was like a fludging floppy fish out of water on the bed, hospital bed. And I eventually died from that. Yeah.

Wow. That's wild. Okay, so Heaven Stormed is a book based on what you were given permission to talk about later, right? Yes. Okay, so talk to us about that then. What is this information that you were kind of held back from talking about? So it's interesting because you initially, for 14 years, didn't want to talk about your experience. you start talking about your experience yet God says to you, I don't want this piece revealed yet. And now you're talking about it. So where are we going with this other piece of the story?

Well, the storm is the unfolding of the end times. So I had witnessed the end times in heaven. I guess much like John in the book of Revelation, I suppose, only I wasn't in a cave on the island of Pabmos. I was in heaven traveling with Jesus, the Holy Spirit. And Jesus said, I'm going to take you to the throne of God. He didn't say of God. He said, I'm taking you to the throne room. So I had seen this paradise. I'd been in this place and had numerous experiences in heaven. But when we got to the throne room, it was very different. It was there were, the angels appeared differently around the throne room.

They were more, let's say, golden appearance, more majestic in appearance. And the voice of one angel would be equivalent to maybe the voice of 10 people. It was that strong of a voice multiplied by thousands around the throne. And then I beheld this figure. that was at this kind of cathedral-looking crystalline type of place with sapphire, cobalt blue stones around this fire, pillar of fire, was just bursting forth around the throne. I saw this glassy surface. There were some, what I, for lack of a better term, called portals at the base of the throne.

and these prayers were coming through from earth to heaven. I knew that implicitly because as I was going through this experience, the Holy Spirit was explaining it to me. And this figure that was at the throne room was very different from Jesus, who was very Middle Eastern in appearance beaming with light. But this figure on the throne had what I would like. likened to the light of a thousand sons. It was absolutely brilliant, and he had long flowing white hair,

very different and very distinct from Jesus and even the Holy Spirit, which was a form, but more like the wind, and really unlike anything that I can ascribe to on earth. And then God spoke from that throne. He said, it is finished. And then he said, let it begin. And that's when I saw kind of this orb, for lack of a better word again. These are very nondescript words, but the best I can ascribe,

that started to came out from heaven through these portals and started spreading out, almost like a gelatinous form spreading throughout the world. And then I was looking through down to earth and I was seeing these people who were in all different manner that I was being revealed to me, walking out of hospitals, walking out of morgues, just shouting out with praises, just absolutely phenomenal things were going on. and people just dropping their, get walking out of wheelchairs and just praising. And that was the glory of God, which was spreading out throughout the earth. So that was the first phase of the storm. So then what happened was Jesus came over and he reached his hand over my eyes. And I didn't know why until what happened next.

And then I saw things which were very different on earth. I saw things that were of a horrendous nature, ones that I wouldn't even want to describe. And I had seen these shields that were being released one by one. There were seven of them that were being released. And they were being released. And then out would pour these horrific manifestations. subsequent to that release.

I came to understand later that these were kind of the accumulation of the, what human made, we call it sin, but human-made horrors that had been accumulative over centuries that were being released because God was no longer protecting the earth. And I said to Jesus, I said, please, to remove your, just remove this from me. I can't bear to watch this anymore. So he did. And then the Holy Spirit who was with me this whole time, he took his, Jesus actually took, went up, he was at the throne, the book of life was on the throne, the table. He took that and he reached out to me. and he was going to place that book in my hands.

And I said, no, no, Jesus, I'm not worthy to hold this. And then the Holy Spirit, my hands were somewhat translucent in my spirit body. I was dead in my physical body. Just reach in through my arms into my hands so that they became more opaque in appearance. and the Holy Spirit had somehow enabled me to hold this book of life. And Jesus rested that book of life. And then I realized something which is beyond words, but it was the word of God that had come to life.

And I knew him for the first time as a presence and not just pages in a book, but as a presence as I was holding this book. and it was a revelation to me, having gone into this experience through a crisis of faith, I was a Christian, but a crisis of faith, that showed me that the presence of God was manifest through the word of God, the spoken word of God, and through the creation from that word of God. So then Jesus took the book back from me, and the next thing, the next thing, the next thing, appearance during the storm. And by the way, the praises had ceased at the advent, the beginning of the storm. So there was complete silence. And I could hear this dirge, almost like a funeral dirge

throughout heaven. And I realized that this was the morning cry of God throughout heaven for the lost for those that did not know him. The heart of God was literally grieving for those who did not have a relationship with him. And then the next Advent was, and this is going to be a mindblower, but I guess some who watch your show might be more accepting than others, is I looked over and Jesus had mounted this white horse. It was a strong white horse. And the angels who were like seven feet tall or so, were mounting these horses behind him. And the saddle of this horse that had tassels that were dipped in red, that were red. And I knew implicitly, as I did for much of what I was perceiving, they were dipped in the blood, I believe, from the cross that Jesus

had hung on. And then Jesus with God on the throne, again, something I can't quite explain, but they spoke in unison that it is finished again and let it begin. And they spoke forth in a voice and in language that I understood, but it was not English or any other lingo that we would have in this world. And then they descended. And I saw this little tip beneath me that looked triangular and shaped with almost like a torch with this burning flame that I came to understand later I believe that was Israel and they came and just devastated the corruption of the wars that were going on at that time and just cleared that out and then I was ushered the final phase of the storm was when I was ushered forth to this

other place as this cascading kind of almost not a ladder but a pathway from heaven came down to this earth that was and this feast was set and there were tables that were set. Myriads of tables were set with lavish foods. And I was standing there and Jesus was standing there with me. but also I saw the God, the father, who looked more earthly in appearance, more human in appearance, I should say, still the long flowing white hair, but not this majestic figure that I saw that was the size of maybe a four or five story building at the throne. He looked more relatable. And I saw this glorious cathedral. to my right that Jesus took me through. And that was a cathedral that we went through.

The angels were there. And there was a festive nature to it, just multitudes of people and sitting at this lavish feast. And that was the culmination or the fullness I know. I'm going through my abbreviated version of it, of the storm. Wow. So you're going through this experience and you're seeing this stuff in the moment. Did you understand what you were seeing?

Or was this something that kind of came to you later as to full understanding? Well, much of it I understood because the Holy Spirit was speaking to me as we were going through these experiences. So I was going through these experience, you might say, looking through, seeing through the eyes of Jesus. You know, I was seeing the, the, what was going on. I didn't understand the fullness of it. And when I came back, I went into an extensive study after I was disabled for a long time. I had brain bleeds. I couldn't walk.

You know, I was severely damaged. My valves were damaged through my body. So there was a long recovery period. But once I was able to kind of get my thinking together again, I started. to study these events, pray about them obviously, and understanding as I read through the Book of Revelation, Ezekiel and others, some of what I was speaking, but I knew fairly implicitly what was going on.

It was all about Tony God's love. It was all about, I know that somebody would read the book of Revelation, and they'd say, oh, you know, I can't cipher through this, or I can't understand it. or it seems like, Judge, God is ready to bring down the hammer. It wasn't that perception at all. It was a perception, really, that, you know, God, that mourning, that mourning being that sorrowful dirge, was God-warning relationship with everyone.

In fact, there was a time when I looked through one of the portals as I was journeying with Jesus prior to going into the throne room, that I was seeing. people in a cityscape. And as Jesus was revealing these different things in heaven, and I was seeing people going about carrying their coffee, you know, I assume maybe a major city, New York, Chicago, what have you. And they were going, you know, probably to work. And I could see them going about their business in a hurry to do something, but really going nowhere. And I had this implicit understanding. It was really going nowhere. But this one lady, In particular, I was shown.

And she was elderly lady, maybe, you know, relatively poor, but she was in a polka dot dress. I remember very distinctly, as I remember much of what I experienced more distinctly than anything I could remember maybe two weeks ago. And there was a, there was a glow about her. there was something different about her and there was even a halo uh appearance around her head and i knew this was somebody who knew god but yet um was poor in comparison to the others in these beautifully adorned dresses and and tailored suits yeah well what all right so what was the uh so you're saying she you that she knew God compared to the others who didn't, right?

Was there a, and she was wearing the polka dot dress? She was wearing the polka dress. The others were walking aimlessly. And I could see these, more or less people are familiar with the term, oras, but these kind of spirit beings around them. It was like a shimmer? Shimmer, you know, they were, and they were around the others who were kind of oppressing them, just pouring out oppression.

Again, I implicitly knew these things around the others, you know, we're going to their office, carrot coffee, thinking of, you know, what they're going to do when they got there or whatever. But this woman was different. She had this, the angel that I saw in heaven, which was a form that I saw in heaven, was more ethereal in nature in what I saw over her, but I knew it was an angel. I know these other figures were maybe the fallen angels, but I knew that because when I became very familiar with the angels

during my experience, because when I first died and I was hovering over my body, I could see my still body, I was in a place before I went to heaven that where I could see these warring figures on the right side were very brilliant looking figures wearing what I would call more like wetsuits, but they were silver in appearance. And they had this, they were, again, seven foot tall or whatever. And this light was shining on them as the light was pulling me up toward heaven eventually

when I would be with Jesus. And at the other end were figures that were very decrepit looking. and they were also equally gargantuan, but not adorned in these silver armor wetsuits, but each side had swords, strangely enough, and they were fighting with that in a faded background. And this was before going to heaven as I was being pulled up. And when the right side, as I came to understand where the angels were falling or putting down the left side, the fallen angels, they went down and they kind of turned to dust. Likewise for the angels on the right side. They didn't really, they, once they turned to dust,

they were going, the angels were going where I would, where the blight was pulling me and the demons or the fallen angels were going somewhere else. So I was seeing this battling and I realized somehow, certainly after the fact, that they were warring over my soul, because As I mentioned briefly, before going into this experience, I had a crisis of faith. I was sitting in a coffee shop with my wife saying, you know, here we were. You know, we had been a CEO of a biotent company, corporate executive, almost overnight. The FDA pulled. We lost millions overnight through the pulling of our drug.

And I was a point of desperation. My daughter had gone through a series of strokes. and we're sitting in a coffee shop and I said to my wife at that time, well, you know, I thought I'd been a good Christian and apparently God has forgotten me. And we were drowning our sorrows and lattes. And I said, well, at least we have our health. And then two weeks later, I had died. So there was a consternation within my soul. And I believe now that what they were doing is they're warring after my soul. Because every time that the angels would gain. that victory. I felt joy, peace, all of these things that are reflective in what would be a positive

emotion. But every time the demon felled or down to an angel, there would be these just oppressive thoughts. You know, why am I here? Am I, where am I going? Am I going to heaven or the other place? You know, and that was the dynamic going on. Finally, I cried out the name of Jesus. And one, Once I did that, I was cheek to cheek with Jesus and I could feel his bristles on his face. Wow. Do you, let me ask you this. You've had time to reflect on this. I don't know if it was revealed to you, but, I mean, if not, then I'm sure you've asked yourself, why me?

You know, there's plenty of people who die and don't come back. In fact, that's most people. and so why do you feel, I mean, obviously you feel compelled and driven to share this message with people. Why do you think God shows you for this service? Well, that's a million dollar question, Tony, and I've asked, prayed about it. I don't know that I have the full answer as yet, but to the best of my ability, I have to preface by saying that I'm not special in any way. I did not want to share this story because I knew once I did that I was saying to John Burke,

my friends who were, or people I became friends that were saying, you know, your whole life is going to change. And indeed it did. You know, I lost much of what I had because I did recover after this financially. But then I lost it once I expired much. of what I had, I was consumed with this, of sharing this, these stories. The best to the best of my ability, Tony, I believe that somehow God had extrapolated my life to the point where he somehow knew that I would, if forced to, that I would share this experience. And for a time,

Again, I don't know if I mentioned that I was told specifically by Jesus that I could not share about the storm until he revealed certain things that I described in the book. And I didn't feel at all released to share my story at all until this point in time. And I think there's a kind of a clarion call of sorts. somehow he maybe knew that I would you know be the like the rich young ruler in the Bible who would say okay I'll just lay it down and just follow you not that I'm again I'm not special at all I actually consider myself you know far less holy than some of the you know pastors that have the

poplet or anything of that sort but I just feel that somehow he knew that I would just be the stupid person who would be stupid enough to put everything, you know, ditch everything for to tell the story. Yeah, no, I actually, that last line I can relate with a lot. Because I'm like, I often sit back and wonder, you know, why God put me in the position I'm in and doing what I do. And I'm just like, maybe he just knew I'd be stupid enough to do it. Yeah.

It's just, he needed to suck. I guess. I don't know. But so let's kind of maybe unpack some of the stuff you said where, first of all, you're talking about being taken to heaven. And in that process, you described a lot. Was that process, though, of what you described? Was that almost like a flash, like a lot happening in a short period of time? Did you have any concept of time when you were going through this? that's a good question Tony because no there was no concept of time you know even the bible talks about you know a days is a thousand days is a thousand years vice versa in heaven so no concept of time during that period and neither could i describe it as as being relative to what

we would see in this world it was it when i had the 30 minutes of 49 seconds in heaven to me it seemed like I was there from my perspective now a hundred years. So that was kind of the context of what I was seeing there. And so it was not only was time irrelevant, but it was almost enhanced in terms of what would happen because everything was intentional within heaven. So there was nothing happenstance. You know, in life we, you know, check out a little for time, whatever.

But there's nothing like that. Everything had meaning. had purpose. And that made it more pronounced, I think, in terms of the experience itself and what was going on. So this experience that you had, do you feel like it would have, obviously it would have been different if you didn't come back. But it's almost like, I almost feel like leading into this whole experience, you know, almost like this was, this was meant to happen. in this way. To me, from my perspective, it sounds like it wasn't like, oh, you died. Well, you're, you're, okay, I'll use you to do this kind of thing. It was almost like, it sounds like to me,

this was a almost like a pre, I hate to say it this way, but almost like a preordained death with a purpose to be brought back. Do you, because I, I don't envision. I don't, I imagine most people who die who don't come back probably don't have the same experience that you had. It's almost like, this whole process from beginning to end was intentional. Do you get that sense? Very much so, Tony. That's very observant of you because, you know, what happened initially when I was, I was just like a sobbing, crying baby when I first met Jesus and my first thought was,

so this is love. And then he picked me up and turned me face to face with him and he tunneled into every dark place within me. But what he did, and this is, I think, worth note. initially as he was tunneling into every dark place within me, I was going through a series of life reviews. And I was seeing how God had redeemed parts of my, throughout my life, actually. I became an agnostic, a militant agnostic, you know, and from a child and how I lost that. So I think what I learned from that, and this would be applicable to anyone, because these

life reviews are somewhat of a common occurrence in afterlife experiences, is that there's a redemptive quality that everyone has in terms of God's working through our lives. Maybe we have a crisis of faith. Maybe, you know, maybe we don't believe in God at all. All of these things I could see him weaving through and somehow knowing the end point in a way. But my will was not, was not eradicated. You know, I always had my will to either deny or accept him. But I think somehow he knew in my heart of hearts that I wanted to know the truth. And I did. I earnestly saw it as an agnostic. I did a research project at Northwestern University, major university, right, as an agnostic with a team of people to disprove all religion. And we used a building-sized computer to do it.

And so somehow he must have known that this Dufus, yours truly, would go to the extent of trying to learn the truth of discrediting him, Christianity that is, and all the other religions, by the way. And I did that. And somehow, you know, he knew that I would come to the end point where I could essentially discredit all the religions. one that I could not, not that I accepted Christ at that time, the one I could not was the one that led to my relationship with Jesus. And, you know, that's, you know, John 832 says, you know, you should know the truth and the truth shall set you free. And I think that striving after the truth, which I was, a truth seeker, you know, just wanting, okay, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want some, you know, preacher to tell me that God exists. I have to find it on my own.

I have to know you as more than pages in a book. You know, you have to be real to me. And I think he somehow knew that that was kind of my modus operandi going into it. Yeah. So very similar in my sense that I didn't want to hear from a preacher. And I was very, very adamant on that to the point that when I had my mind, interaction with God. It was literally during somebody who was preaching and I was mad that they were preaching and my blood pressure is rising. I was like angry. And so very similar in that sense. Now, I'm kind of in a point personally right now where I'm really trying to, with my finite brain, fathom, try to fathom eternity, infinity in God's presence. This infinite God, I don't think I can ever possibly get to a point where I could even get

remotely a hint of what that is. But do you feel like when you were there, was there ever a moment that you, was there ever a moment that you, I almost feel like it would be almost hard to take your focus away from whatever is being put in front of you because it's so majestic. But was there ever a moment of a sense of you're in infinity, infinite? Like the presence of God is so infinite. Because recently, I'm doing a really bad job of explaining this, but it's a lot of internal thoughts that I've been having in the past few weeks.

And I just, I've been trying to imagine what it would be like to be in the presence of an infinite God and imagine what that is like. And to me, I can't even fathom it. Like, it's just, it's so beyond comprehension for me. Your situation, again, we go back to, there was a definite particular focus and point as to what you were experiencing. what you were seeing. But within that, was there ever a moment where you're like overwhelmed by the, by this, the presence of God or, or, or what? I guess I'm just asking, what was it like? It's wild. Yeah. Well, those are all things that prior to my experience, I, I would be on the same page with you in terms of infinity, in terms of all the concepts of, you know, on an omniprope.

present God and, you know, how is that, you know, and, you know, you and you know, you and you and I are probably similar and that we want to understand things is probably the majority of people are, but, you know, you do it in a very, in a very solid way and seeking out the answers to some of the strangeness that you present, you know. But I think the best I can answer that, I think Tony, is everything seemed normal to me in heaven. Everything seemed normal. The grandiose nature of God being all-knowing and the sense of eternity being focused on the here and now, if you will, focused on what was going about because there was no end point. and I knew that, and here is probably the overriding sense,

was that God was under control because here's the, this is the first two words Jesus spoke to me when he leaned over to my right ear and he said, trust me. He said, trust me. And that has been the dividing call for me for ever since. trust me. Okay. And there's that Romans 828 verse, you know, all things work to good for those that belong to him and called according to his purpose. But that, those two words, every situation has been defined by that. So that's kind of the implicit understanding in heaven, released of the, you know, this mind who tries to figure things out. That was the implicit understanding in heaven with my spirit mind. But when I came back, you know, you. You know, I wasn't necessarily trying to figure it out. I was trying to survive, but I went into a period of depression.

Severe depression when I came back. Not just because of my physical ailments and all of that, but I felt like I was an alien in this place. I felt like this was not where I belonged. I was, heaven was my home, is my home. I still, to this day, heaven is my home. I'm just a sojourner here in this world. I didn't feel that way before.

And everything I would see and how people would be cruel to each other and how, you know, people take sides and, you know, try to, you know, discredit others to elevate themselves and things of that sort. It would just validate further that I don't want to, I really don't belong here. And I had to pray about that, Tony. I had to really pray about that. I said, God, why? It wasn't so much as why you, why are you using this way?

Why are you using this way? It's why didn't you allow me to stay there? And there's a reason for it, actually, what Jesus had told me, when he said he was going to send me back. He answered that question. But that's something that was always ever present in my mind, is that I got the bad end of this stick. You know, it just, this is, this is,

This is not what I wanted. Yeah, I mean, I can understand. I think I've talked to, I've talked to several people who've had, you know, death. I hate to say near death experiences because it was death. It was like a definite death experience. Yeah. But they came back. And that's a common thing that I hear that as people are like, I didn't want to come back.

And I forget which one person I was talking to, they had said, that I think their family had a hard time hearing that because their family was excited to have them back and stuff. And they're like, I love you, but the love that I experienced there is you can't compare it. And that's kind of what you're describing here. And I can imagine that would send you into a depressive state for sure. How long did that last for you? Oh, it was a series of months, I would say. You know, I got over it when I just got back into the busyness of things. I was physically able enough to go back into surgery.

And, you know, I had purpose to, you know, in every facet. And that was the reason really that drove me. Because in heaven, when Jesus said, I'm going to send you back, I almost lost my piece there. I just thought, you know, why? You know, I did wonder why. And I said, well, at least, Jesus, can you give me a kind of a blueprint? You know, I was a type A personality before this experience, not now.

And can you at least tell me why? And then this butterfly rested on my left shoulder, beautiful aeroscent butterfly. And everything I knew was in heaven was intentional. So I knew that there was purpose to why this butterfly rested on my shoulder. And I thought of after the fact of Psalms 4610, be still and know that I am Lord or I'm God. And so Jesus said these words to me. He said, I will reveal your purpose.

to you moment by moment, because if I were to reveal your purpose in full, you would not remain dependent upon me. And that has been the driving force for my life subsequent to that. So I realized once I overcame the, now I'm in this kind of a trash heap of a place in comparison, that my purpose was moment by moment. So, you know, when I go to the grocery store, For example, you know, I'll look for maybe some opportunities. Not all the time. I have my failures. I'm not going to.

I'm still a fallen person creature, you know, saved by grace. But, you know, I look more intensely at the moment. And I was never that way. You know, I would pray for somebody. I'd look, okay, and I'd say, Holy Spirit, you know, Lord, show me who needs prayer. Or should I give some, maybe somebody needs money and, you know, I'll go over. And if I feel like they're not going to take a. offense, you know, or whatever, you know, in the moments of life versus looking for a status

or grandiose purpose necessarily, just taking it, you know, the common term taking it day by day, for me, it's taking it moment by moment. And that was a tremendous lesson, you know, to learn through this. So now, you know, to me, heaven is more real. It is more real than this world. there were more than the five senses. But Tony, I'll end it with this. You know, I don't like sharing about my story even to this day. I know that seems difficult. The reason I'm doing it is because I wrote a book about it.

I felt released and compelled to write a book. But I would rather share other people's stories. But I think there's a message to be learned through all of these experiences. experiences. And that is that this is not home. And as soon as we try to camp out, you know, and start, I know, you know, not discounting, trying to feel at home in a place, but as soon as we feel like this is it, then then we've kind of closed ourselves off to the opportunities that God presents to us. And that, that would be a terrible shame, you know, be caught and turned on the news and feel like the world's falling apart.

That doesn't matter in the scheme of things. I hear you. Let me ask you one more question about this, and then we can bring it in for a landing. You have these things revealed to you, and you're showing these things. You're sent back. Do you...

I'm almost certain, or else you would have said it, I'm assuming you don't have a date on this day is when this happens. But do you have, was there a sense that this was going to be something that was going to be happening soon? Or rather a sense of this is something that's going to happen and you need to speak about it for the following generations to understand about it. And you're talking about the storm, the end times part of it. Yes, sorry. So, well, here's one of the ways I feel that I can answer this question is that since Jesus had told me explicitly that I could not share about the storm until or if he were to tell me to share it. And I was never really inclined to share about the storm because I thought this was my own personal experience that I, for me and me alone.

But I was going through this study and all of this. And then I went back to the place where I was bicycling up the coast to the very spot that I was in hours of dying. And I sat on the rocks, one of my favorite places to go overlooking the ocean, Pacific Ocean. and then this storm was coming on the front or back of the ocean as I saw it. And the storm was coming my way. And I could see the lightning streaks just coming down from the clouds. And it was coming towards me. I said, Lord, I just see all of these signs going on.

I said, what are you telling me that I'm to share about the storm? And I heard his voice for the first time coming through, and I knew the Holy Spirit in the wind. And I hear his voice. And he said, now it's the time to share about the storm. I knew the gravity of that. what he was saying. And I said to him, I can't possibly share about this storm because there's no way I can do justice to it. And I don't have the means to pert in words what that is.

And he said, just, just do it. I'll be with you. And so I did. And at some point I struggled. I left it. I the publisher was going to publish it obviously I told him no I'm not doing this because I can't write about it

and then and then all of a sudden I'm just typing away I'm typing away and then it came to me why this was now of all times and I believe it's because the storm is at hand the storm is at hand

the storm is at hand and that's a specific reason why it was released. And then, you know, I felt that the generation, I don't know, I'm older, but I think there's some generation I felt in prayer and steeping further that the generation I kept hearing was the Joshua generation, the Joshua generation. And I felt like the Joshua generation was the one that, you know, after Moses and he didn't go to the promised land. It was Joshua the second generation. All the first generation passed. The Joshua generation went in to the promised land. And so I'm praying and praying about this and

thinking, you know, Lord, what does that mean? And what I came to understand is the Joshua generation, the those who were going into the promised land, were carrying with them the presence of God. That is the ark. And it wasn't, it wasn't the land. It wasn't the land. land around Israel. Wasn't anything like that. It was the presence of God which would settle in that place. Of course, they built the temple. And there was the presence of God then that would be the habitation with them.

And then I thought, Lord, what is this? What does this all mean? And I kept hearing the Joshua generation is living today. The Joshua generation is living today. and I came to understand, and I went through, and I tell in the book, I mean, extensive study, I believe the Joshua Generation present today, I don't know if it's your generation, Tony, or children's generation, or what have you, but the Joshua Generation today will see the advent of the storm. remember the advent of the storm, as I saw it, was the release of God's glory.

The other part, which is the part we probably most certainly don't want to live through, but the first advent of the storm was that outpouring of this glory, which is absolutely incredible, you know, and the result of that. And I believe the Joshua generation that's living today will see that. that part, the first release of that storm. And I feel into my heart, my heart of hearts, I have no doubt about it. Wow. Well, Randy Kay, I appreciate you coming on the show. And people can check out your book, Heaven Stormed. You have several books, but there's also the dying to meet Jesus, which goes into this story as well. I thank you very much for coming on the show. And

and sharing your story, very impactful. Thank you, Tony. I appreciate your being with me. And if I can just say these parting words, God loves you more than you can possibly imagine. And whatever conception you have of God's love, you have grossly underestimated his love. And that goes for anyone.

He loves you so much that a first impression I had was I was the most important person in the world, the most special person in the world, and that's how he sees you. I'm broken, but I'm hoping God will bless me. Even though I'm down, I'm still kicking like messy. Stitches on me look a little messy. More like a quilt you could find on Etsy. I'm hoping that the road is a little less steep, maybe a little more meat, a little less wheat.

Man, these dudes run around claiming that they pharaohs, but what I see is more like they do in cagos. Women claiming that they nefertiti, but they like a year old no Tziki, no sauce, and I'm hoping that my flaws don't come with the withdrawals. Visions of these claws expose me as a fraud, no way. Looking at my past, co-case, hat trick with my goals, ole, bread for my family, whole grain. And I'm trying to help these mutton, but it's tough when the past year is full of things that I find entertaining. Pop a cup of blues I don't eat persuading. Everything on the new so engaging I can never do that I'm too awake

My drives harder than the third number two to eight Anchor to my ship I don't care about the newest wave Cause the current takes you deep into a sewer main Might be at the top but you really at the bottom No pride in the fall have you looking like autumn The leaves change before you see the blossom I just pray every day I won't be forgotten They say that the bottom of my day

I don't do this for trophies Fees, but I pray that I be heard. False idols and phonies. We worship like junkies. Shoot their words till our veins, quit. He that fix what they tell us to do. We don't know how to think for ourselves. Bet to the lines, gazelles.

Don't know who's needing this first, but I pray that I be...