The Confessionals - 690: Cryptid Warfare Operations

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

In episode 690: Cryptid Warfare Operations, the Cryptid Warfare Operations team joins Tony to talk about some of their most wild experiences in the field. They begin by explaining that during a mission in Mountain City, the team encountered strange creatures pacing them in the woods, triggering alarms and causing tense moments with rifles drawn. On another investigation in Kentucky’s Mammoth Cave the team made eerie discoveries, including growls and unsettling encounters near an abandoned SUV, possibly tied to missing people. Finally, the team shares of their experience, in a separate hunt in Tennessee, while the they explored a cave where strange footprints, feathers, and paranormal activity were linked to local legends of Skinwalkers, they encountered extremely eerie paranormal activity. Their experiences culminated in mysterious events like infrasound attacks and sightings of shadowy figures, hinting at a deeper, unexplained reality in these remote regions.Cryptid Warfare Podcast: Listen HereWebsite: cryptidwarfare.comInstagram: @cryptid_warfare_pod_castJessica JonesWebsite: thecryptidhuntress.comYouTube: @TheCryptidHuntressInstagram: @thecryptidhuntressExclusive 'The Sasqualogist' Screening Tickets: Get Tickets Here! Sasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - ShutUp N DriveYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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Today we have some incredible guests here in studio. We have a full table, the cryptid warfare crew, or actually it's the cryptid warfare operations, right? Or should we go with the podcast first? You can talk now. Oh, we get to go. We're done with it. I'm done with the intro. I told everybody that they had to be quiet while I did that whole spiel.

What was funny is when you doing the intro? I was like, is he reading, dude? He's like doing it. It was on point. He was focused. I mean, it's like, what, almost 700 episodes? Yeah, you want to say, if you don't get it now, come on. Well, I don't.

It seems like when I'm doing it in front of people, I hit it better. But when I'm doing it by myself, I'm like, 10th, 15th, 20th time. It got to the point where I was like, Jack, just go find something else. I'll just record this on my own until it gets done. And then I'll send it to you. But no, it's been a wild ride for me over here. But for you guys, cryptids warfare started out as a podcast first and then went to the operations.

No, first off, it was actually operations first. And that's like our bread and butter is being out in the field and stuff. And then we decided to do a podcast. That's awesome, man. So let's go around the table and introduce ourselves. everybody say their name. I tease, no, T, T, T, T, T. I teased everybody because I said, I forget people's names,

so I'm going to need you to introduce yourself so I remember. But, no, but seriously, let's do it so I hear your voices along with the name. My name is T. I'm part of Crypto Warfare podcast and Operations. Good friends of Andrew, our host and are the creator of Crypto Warfare. So I'm happy to be here and happy to meet you for the first time. Awesome, yeah. Yeah, I'm Jessica Jones.

I started off as a tag-along with Crypted Warfare. I'm actually known as the Cryptid Huntress. You guys might have heard one of my shows or something occasionally. But I'm a Bigfoot and Crypted Field Researcher. I've been doing this since 2011. And like I said, I'm a tag-along and having a good time. We go out and do some pretty awesome boots on the ground field research out there all over the – pretty much where we've been, Tennessee and Alabama so far.

So before we move to him, tell people where they can find your stuff. your show, your social, all that. Plug your stuff away. You should do the two if you want to do tea. I don't even have one.

All right. Don't worry about tea. Jessica, you're on. I'm about you, bro. Yeah, y'all can find me

at the cryptidhuntress. com, and I have a YouTube channel that's the cryptid huntress. Awesome. Thank you. Drew. Right on.

You are a part of the team. I'm a part of the team. She's part of the team. I know. I was kidding. Oh, hey, guys, I'm Drewski.

Yeah, Drew. Yeah, I run the Crypted Warfare and Conspiracies podcast. Also do CW operations and survival. So, yeah, I'm glad to be here, brother. Yeah, thanks for coming out. This has been a long time coming.

We met each other, what, two years ago now? Yes, I'm about that. Out in Paris. Tennessee, not France. I mean, we were on an operation. We were on an op in Paris hunting the werewolf of Paris, the Paris wearful. Be so Givudon. Yeah, what she said.

Yeah, a dogman had a wee-wee-wee-wee-wee. We geared up. No, but we met each other at a conference. And I think I asked you to come and do your art there because I didn't have any merch at the time. So I was like, I was like, can you come out and just, you can have my table and sell your art. So that's where we met each other. You're pretty good at tagging man and all that good stuff. You're a good artist. But so Cryptid Warfare Operations is the first thing you started. How did that whole thing come together? I mean, was it like an encounter or was it an interest, a topical interest?

I mean, you have a background in police, I believe, right? Yeah, law enforcement, stuff like that. Former military? Yeah. And your crew of guys that have that background as well. So it's like legit, like on the ground, like mercenaries for big fire. Mercantiries for hire. Wait, do we get paid?

I wish. That's what I'm trying to do with this operations team. I'm trying to build that up. But no, as far as that, like I said, I have like a law enforcement background and fieldcraft and all that stuff too. So what it started out for me was back in Colorado. I used to go basically backpacking with my dad and stuff and out in the mountains a lot. And he teaches me a lot of survival and stuff. And then I really didn't give a, I guess a hoot about cryptids, but I love monsters for sure.

Predator, aliens, all that stuff really got me in that jive. And then reading about Lochness Monster and Bigfoot, but it really didn't hit me until, until I was in law enforcement. So just basically in a quick nutshell, in Colorado, I was a part of a SWAT team for the state of Colorado. And we used to do a lot of warrants, a lot of tracking, a lot of escape convicts, high custody, VIP, transport, stuff like that. So yeah, we used to also train like a lot of people, like kind of like room clearing, stuff like that, range days, all that stuff. So it was just go, go, go, go, go. What kind of got me into this Bigfoot stuff like that was, when we went on an operations when we had to go get an escape convict.

So as we're tracking this guy in the middle of the Rocky Mountains, we're running a diamond formation team. You got your tracker in the front, you got your medic in the middle, and you got all your operators on the right side, holding up weapons and stuff like that. So they dropped us off on one area, another team, another team altogether is probably about a good like five different teams, different alphabet agencies, state of Colorado, Fed, stuff like that. So as we're tracking this guy, he's in the middle of the mountains. We have an idea on where he's at.

And as we're walking our way towards him, this is about, I say it's almost hitting like dusk. So as we're going, got our nods on top. We're just walking and we're hearing two things pace us in the middle of the mountains. What the freak is that, dude? I'm not saying anything because I don't want to be the cuckoo guy. But I'm hearing it off my left because I'm on my left in the diamond formation like that, just scanning everything on my left.

got my guy on the right. He's like, hey, do me a favor. He's on comms. He's like, hey, let's just stop on three. Everyone just stop walking. Three, two, one, stop. And we stop. And we hear these two things on the both sides of us.

Take two extra steps and they stop. And we're like, hmm. So we're trying to get a read on it. Nothing. We're not seeing anything, but we're hearing it. So we're like, all right. The guy on the tracking team, good old mountain boy. He's like, don't worry about that.

I just keep moving. We're like, what the freak? Don't worry about that. We need to know what's over there. You know, like, whatever. So we just keep going. But as we're scanning, we have our weapons up towards the left, towards the right, towards the rear.

We're just going. They finally catch the guy. We walk him on the way down. We get up there, hand him over, go back to the precinct. Stay, turn our weapons in, do our report. And a thriller alphabet agency comes up. It's like, hey, here's what you guys write. Da, da, da, da.

I thought you guys wanted us. to write who, what, when, where, why, and how. And they're like, don't worry about that. Here's what you guys should write. Da, da, da, da. All right, whatever. So, captain's like, do it. All right.

Roger that. Right out the report. Didn't think anything of it. So I dove head first into what the freak is out there, right? So I started digging up on a mountain area called Wetmore, San Isabel, Pike Speak, stuff like that. It just opened up the floodgates for me on cryptids. Bigfoot, dog man, skinwalkers. stuff like that. So that's how I got in the head heels over it. And then how I got into the

conspiracy part of it was when, this is back in 2012. They go 2012 guys when we all thought the world was going to end, right? December 25th. Was it? No, it was December 25th, right? Yeah, yeah, 2012. Yeah. I remember my dad said, eh, he thought that ain't nothing, you know, that Aztex just ran out of tablet is all it was. All right, cool. So anyway, so we had to, this is when I was doing VP protection on the SWAT team. We had to escort a guy who was ahead of a certain thing to the Denver International Airport to meet the governor of Colorado. So we go there.

I'm not driving. I'm just chilling on the left side. We're just chilling. We're basically just babysitters for hire, right? With weapons. So we are. So we get there. That's what they thought about their Pennsylvania too. Yeah, so we get there and we go on the back way.

They let us in. I'm like, what the freak are we going, you know? And then all of a sudden we hit this tunnel and we just keep going. What is this? Just tunnels everywhere. Vehicles moving everywhere. Under the airport. Under the airport.

Do you see Bluifer? Oh, yeah. We saw Bluifer. The big old horse with the red eyes. What? That's not weird at all. I'll show you. Yeah, you'll have to show you after.

Yeah. So that's basically in the front of the Denver National Airport. It was Blusifer, right? So we passed that, go underneath there. I'm just meandering, passing vehicles, stuff. like that and they got like these little totes and stuff driving by so we end up at this dead end these double doors open military police walk out got the governor stuff like that we get out escort them they told us you guys got to stay right here okay we'll just chill out rogers that

we'll just hang out they let him in uh they just take off to do whatever they need to do as a meeting so we're standing there for like a good hour and a half just chilling so we're just shooting the crap with the MPs right it's talking to him talking about football, avalanche, Broncos, stuff like that, you know, weapons, all that, whatnot. Doors open again, I kind of peeked my head in. I see a railway. Aliens? No, no.

Oh, man. Yeah, I'm just talking. Guys, I can say that. My last name is, don't worry about it. Anyways, yeah. So all I see is a railway, right? And then on the other side of that are boxes and stuff. And I'm just nonchalant.

I'm like, hey, man, what the heck they had? that on. He's like, oh, man, they had this round here forever, you know. This is how we transport stuff without the public knowing. I was like, what is this? So, the dude comes out from the meeting, he's pissed off. He's like, let's go. So we go, get in the vehicles,

drive out, go back to CEO Springs, drop him off, turn my gear in, I go home. So I start digging on some stuff. One of my buddies works for the DOD. He sent me a blueprint of 2009 of the railways underneath the United States. So the one that we saw underneath the Denver and National Airport goes from there to NORAD and from NORAD to Plobac, Colorado, then from that to the Area 51, Nevada, all that stuff.

It looks like a spider web. But that was just the blueprints of it. The tunnels they had. And it only shows half of the United States and they keep going out towards Washington. Washington. So Doleys Bays, stuff like that. I'll send you that picture. You still have it? I still got it. Yeah, definitely sent it to it. It's not, you don't have to do it right now. I want you to focus in here. But anyways, but what was real quick to wrap this up, what was a trip was after that in March 19th, 2013. Okay. That person we escorted got murdered. The governor? Wait, no. Who was, who was, I thought you were escorting the governor. No, no, no, no. We weren't escorting a certain person to meet the governor. Gotcha. it under the ground.

Under the ground. Crazy. And he came out and pissed off all that. Well, a year or two late, about like a year and a half later, he got murdered after that. And it was a big pursuit and stuff like that.

And they finally found the guy and they shot him down in Texas. So that's all I'm saying about that. I still got buddies who worked there and stuff. So that's all I'm saying. But yes, I will send you the blueprints and everything like that. All right.

So I have heard about the tunnel systems and the railways and stuff. And I've seen things online. And, you know, I'm just like, How do they know? So you're saying the person that gave you the blueprints that you saw was from DOD. Yes, he don't work there no more, but he does. He did at the time.

Wow. Yeah, but it's just like a rough draft. He found like here, this don't mean nothing. Because it was old. Old, old. Yeah. Wow. So do you think it's more like sophisticated at this point?

Oh, 100%, dude. What was a trip though? Because at the same time I was there, I was actually coaching a high school soccer team, right? One of the kids that graduated, I caught up with, he was a part of the drilling team. He's like, I don't know why the freak we're drilling tunnels. Why the hell we need tunnels going through underneath Colorado? This is stupid. But I'm getting paid good.

Ask no questions. Is what it is. Yeah. And it kind of like brought everything together. I'm like, oh my gosh. Okay, there's way more to this than I thought. Wow. So officially, you have been under the Denver, Denver Airport.

10-4. You've seen the tunnels. And it was because you were escorting a certain person. a high level security risk type person. Wow. Wow. You're not lying to me. Negative.

Right. That's exciting. What do you guys think about this stuff? I mean, this is an whole story for you? Yeah. 2000, what was that?

2012? Yeah. I was in high school, so I wasn't really doing cool stuff. Young guys. Yeah, I wasn't doing anything cool like that. Yeah, that's wild. Wow.

Yeah. No, I've been looking into Bluifer lately. Somebody gave me that. Oh, that picture I sent you? Yeah. No, somebody gave me that is a, blind coordinate remote viewing target. Yeah.

Actually, Arkeem Raw did. And so I did a show on that at Space Out Radio back then when I was on Space Out Radio. And it was pretty interesting. I mean, I was just at the Denver airport. I was told I was at the wrong Denver airport. Apparently, there's two because I was looking all over for like an Illuminati.

Oh, now we're talking about. You see all those collages and stuff? Yeah, I was looking for them. I have heard of two. There's a big one and like a small one. Most people come into the smaller side or something. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because at the Denver, at the Denver Nostonport, you have your big one,

and then you got your satellite one right next to it. Yeah. I don't, I was at a big one, but I couldn't find it. I was looking for a doorway to the underground tunnels of the Illuminati. It's probably, it's probably just an office door to just, you know, maintenance or something like that. It's probably a Starbucks or something. Yeah. You get to pull the machine.

Yeah. Yeah. The Starbuck. We're Starbucks down there. It's like, the logo is like, oh, you don't have to, the squint one eye to see it. It's like, oh, no, it's really a Baffinette. It's right there, Bethlehem. Yeah, the logo.

Yeah, give me the Bluopher for Appuccino. Ah, I got you. I thought of those. So, with that introduction to this world, right? So being paced in the woods, the Ever International Airport, being underground and stuff, you kind of got into looking into the conspiracy side of things? Yeah, that.

And then in 2014 is when I moved from Colorado here to Tennessee. This one I put my, I guess, like my two months in to quit, right, to move here. I had a meeting with one of my LTs and he was pissed because I was a part of a SWAT unit. And then they had a separate unit called like the Go to Hell team. So it's if crap hits the fan, you're paged up. And you and a couple guys like probably about 15 to 10 guys all over the state of Colorado get up and you have to escort these certain people to underneath this. If crap hits the fan. Oh, that's a like this.

And your families, yes, and your families are going to go too. But you got to sign like an agreement and stuff like that. And you were part of that? Well, I was, I was like a PTM member. It's like potential team member, a PTM guy. So I was kind of like going through like a trial period. And then I put my, put my resignation in to leave. And my lieutenant was pissed.

He's like all that effing training down the tube. So I kind of left on a bad enough. Why did you leave? Uh, I guess we'll go there. It's going on a testimony. time guys. So basically, in a nutshell, my marriage was falling apart and my relationship with God was down the tube. So my job was my God. And then basically my wife left for a little while.

She actually went here to Tennessee to stay with family. Well, she gave me the ultimate and I'm like, hey, I need you just to think about what you want to do. And then when we come back, then he can make a decision. So God definitely got a hold of me on that. And then, you know, when you came back, I was like, let's make this work. Let's do this. I don't care, but I have to leave here in order for us to make this work. That way I can get my relationship with you right, my relationship, my relationship with God, right. And yeah, she's like, all right, well, we got options. We can go to Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee. I'm like, let's check out Tennessee. So we went to Tennessee. My wife was already plugged into church, and this is how we'll get on the Bigfoot stuff. My wife was already

plugged into a church at the time there. And she talked to a couple people there about our situation, And so they're praying for us and stuff like that. So when we got there, a guy of the head of the security team named Cameron, shout out to you, buddy, love you, man. He was a Bigfoot researcher, hardcore. But he was kind of underground about it because, you know, people look at you funny back then in 2014. Like what? Totally get it.

So it's basically, as soon as we got there, I was like, okay, God, what do you want me to do, man? Like, I'm all for it. I'll jump in head heels. You want me to start playing guitar again and worship? team, I don't care. Just plug me in somewhere. So as soon as we walked in, my wife waved, a couple people waved, we got connected with the people, and he comes up on an or he's like, hey, you're Andrew, right? I was like, yeah. He's like, cool. Wife told me a little about your background. I want you on the security team. I'm like,

okay, let's do it. So I was on the security team till then, till now. So, okay, God, and I guess you want me to use the stuff I've learned to help these people out. So that's what we, that's what I've been doing now. The most secure church in the country. Well, it's great, man, because we got a lot of guys. We got a couple guys there who are Rangers, Navy SEALs, ex-Navy SEALs, stuff like that. We had a dude who was ahead of it who is in the Secret Service. So he's been protecting all those guys. He's actually downtown in Nashville.

Really? Yeah. So, yeah, they have a headquarters down there. I didn't know that. But they do. But yeah, we got guys from all over, Rutherford County, fire department. It's just, we have about 150 guys mixed on the team. This is a huge church, isn't it?

Yeah. Yeah. That's insane. Like, I got like, 100 people in my church total. What was amazing? It was like, it's like when her and I got there, there wasn't that many people. There's only five guys on the security team, right? So then after that, he quit.

My pastor asked me to take over. I took over from 2016 all the way to 2020 as soon as Corona hit. Then I stepped down. And then the guys who I trained up, I had them took over. And then it's been running like that ever since. Then I came back and my pastor was like, what do you want to do, man? I'm like, you know what, dude? I just want to wash feet, dude.

So I'll still do security, but I'm not going to be the head of it anymore. It was just too much. So, yeah, that's what I do now. Yeah, it's almost like another job. Yeah, it was, man. I was there freaking Mondays, Wednesdays, Friday, Saturday, Sundays, plus my job, my regular job I got, plus do encrypted hunting. It was just go.

How'd your wife feel about that? Was it because you were serving the church? It was all right? No. That took a damage too. Because I'm the type of guy. If I do it, I go in 110%. That's how I am.

So when we moved here, I was like, cool. There's jobs open in Metro, National Police Department, Rutherford County. She's like, do you really want to go back to the job? I almost split up our marriage. I was like, okay, you're right. So she's like, hey, why don't you just try out some other things, you know? Maybe go back to your old trade, which is welding. I'm like, okay.

So I applied for Nissan, and that's where I met T. And, yeah, here we are. Cool. Yeah. It's worked out. It's working out great. Praise God, yeah. It's not going to be crazy.

I'm sorry. There we go. Right there. There we go. All right. Because sometimes her voice is fading, and I know why. So that now we're good. So this is a direction that I wasn't expecting.

all this kind of came together. Going back to Denver, is there, in your research with the airport, because I remember you, this is crazy too, because I remember you telling me about, you had a story about Denver International Airport,

and I totally forgot until you brought up. But that spawned you into that. Have you ever, outside of what you shared, uncovered things or found things that through your training might have been like a flagged? You were like,

hmm, I think I know what that is kind of thing. Well, as far as the, as far as, of the conspiracy part of it. Like, okay, biblically wise, right? Let's say Matthew 24, Luke 21, all that stuff, revelations and all that. We know it's going to get worse before it gets worse before it gets better, right?

We know there's going to be anarchy, stuff like that, and all that stuff. So when we were training on this team, we had to learn how to breach certain areas. And, you know, a certain person said, we just have to be prepared for the enemy. I'm like, okay, well, what's the definition of enemy? You know, could be religion factors. Factions could be, you know, people who basically who stand up against what the order is. And I was like, oh, I'm not about that life. I'm good.

Count me out. That's wild. Yeah. And then after that, moved here, met Cameron, got in the security team. And then he's like, hey, man, this was in 2015, about a year after we moved here. he's like, hey, I'm going on a sponsored Bigfoot in Kentucky at over at the Mammoth Cave National Park you want to go.

Going on a what? On a sponsored Bigfoot hunt. Okay. It's the Mammoth Cave National Park you want to go. I was like, let me think about it. And he's like, dude, for real, like, I want you to come because I need guys who know what they're doing. Like, all we're doing is research.

I need people who know weapons who don't want to die. I'm like, all right, we'll go. So I got a team of guys and we went. And that's actually where I met Zook and a couple of the guys. And yeah, so when we went there, a quick story on that. We were there for like two days. So in this area where we had to go, we literally had to take a ferry. We, we, you actually drive your vehicle up on this ferry. Takes you across to this mountain island. And then they close from 7 p.m. and they open it up at 7 a.m. So if anything happens, you're on your own. So you better have a satellite phone, something like that. So we went with the team of 15 guys. One of them was a pilot and he was a good dude, but he was a skeptic. Now he's not a skeptic anymore because we had some incidents happen. So. Here's what happened to me. We're on there night two. The next morning we're going to leave. But night two, we were in those mountains looking around. And it was about 2 o'clock in the morning. We rode up on this SUV was parked. All the doors were open. The thing that I told Cam was like, hey, stop was because I saw a baby carriage on the floor and everything was dumped out. So, hey, we got to stop. So naturally, as a protector, you want to get out and investigate and see what's going on. So we all got out, looked around. The way the vehicle was

parked, it was pointed at this trail that led to a river, led to the river. And then around it was just bushline and then just went up a mountain, right? So I go to the driver's side, make sure there's no people in there. God forbid there's a baby in there. Nothing. Thank God, looked around. My back is towards the woodline as I'm on the driver's side. My buddy Ben is on the opposite side looking my buddy cameron's on a sat phone calling the rangers whoever needs to talk to telling what's going on in this area right pinpointing on what's going on that way you can come investigate the next day so everyone's looking around so next thing i know i hear a big growl but it's not your certain type of growl it's like a deep guttural growl and i didn't know anything about

infrasound at the time tony i knew i knew nothing about it so it physically felt like my back was up against a subwifor subwifor at a concert at metallica and they just just hit that guitar string and my whole inside just shook. And I almost passed out and I had my hand on the top of the vehicle and then everything just kicked in, turned around, pulled my pistol out, backed up. Ben pulled his pistol out and said, what the freak was that? Did you hear that? And in my mind, I'm like, okay, cool, I'm not crazy. I heard that. Yeah. Yeah. So, so whatever happened with other people in the car, do you know? We don't know. Wow. Wow. We don't know. Wow.

So, middle of the night, SUV, all doors open. Nobody inside. Nobody. Were the lights on in the SUV? So do you think the battery was dead? There were no keys in it, nothing. We tried to turn on, nothing.

The battery had to be dead. Was it newer? Yeah, it was newer. Do you think it was stolen? Could be. Who knows? Wow. As far as that, we didn't get no more intel on it, no nothing.

And this was in Kentucky? Kentucky, yeah. Mammoth Cave National Park. Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow. That's interesting. I wonder if there's any missing people cases up there. Oh, 100%.

100, dude. There's a cluster. Rewind. Let me finish my thought. I know there's missing people cases. Okay. I'm in a 411. Have you ever heard it?

I mean, has Bigfoot ever talked to people? No, I mean, like that fits that description, you know? Have you looked into that at all? As far as the description of what you found versus what maybe would be a missing person case up there? No, as far as that, Cameron said he was going to look into that. But we just left it at that and then I went about my business and never heard anything of it.

That sounds like Sasquatch and Missing Man Part 2. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Holy cow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. All right. So that was the introductory to the ops? Yeah. Wow. So, yeah. So after that, I'll wrap this up and then you can go around. Sorry, guys.

So after that, he kind of slowed down at going. And so I'm just, I'm like biting at the bit. So I start going by myself, right? So, which is a no-no. So one of the guys I started working with, his name's Brian Cochran. Love you, Poh Dog, love you, man. Good dude. Him and I started working together when I moved here.

And ex-bounty hunter, stuff like that. Good dude ripped up. Him and I have been best friends since I moved here. So it was just him and I going. So he's a tracker. He knows his stuff. stuff. So same age as me. And then after that, every year I just started to slowly vet people and just started added on people. And what was cool was at the place I work at now, which is Nissan, my job description, I'm basically everywhere around the plant. I'm not stuck on the line, so I'm everywhere. So I get to meet a lot of people and talk to them. And as you do that over the years, you start to see what people's beliefs are, what they do, stuff like that. So I started to find a good, like-minded people who should. communicate, go out in the woods, survival, stuff like that.

And then it came up to the topic, what do you guys feel about cryptids? Yeah. Because you got to kind of like that's how you weed it out, right? Yeah, yeah. What do you think about this? Just conversational stuff. Yeah. So, and then some guys it was like, oh, dude, let me tell you, man, I've had this experience.

I'm like sweet. Like sleep paralysis. Like seat paralysis. There's a lot of people we met that had sleep paralysis. Yeah, I've had that sucks. Yeah. We're going to talk about that while we're here today. Anyways, yeah, but we'll get to that later.

But yeah. So that's basically actually how I got, actually how I got all my guys through the years. Every year I always get somebody. Do, T, do you have any, like, background in military or anything like that? No, no military, just outdoors. Grip, shooters. Survivalist a little bit. Yeah, just one of those is just like, man, I don't like being outdoors.

Like, can you start a fire by hand without a lighter? Yeah. You know, just Boy Scout stuff. Are you originally from Tennessee? I am in Nashville area. Okay. So I can't talk about this on the podcast yet because I'm still looking into it because I'm not sure if it's true or not. But remind me after, I'll tell you guys, oh, the audience hate when I do that.

But I will talk about it on the show. I just found out about today. Right on my Palm Pilot. There you go. But there's a legend of a particular person in Tennessee that I think might fit the description of Nephilim hybrid. And he didn't live that long ago. Interesting. Yeah.

But I just heard about today. so I wanted to look into it more before I actually talk about it on the show. But I bring that up because you get the red beard and... He might be a cousin. He got six fingers, though. He got six toes. No, I'm just joking. You never see my feet.

Double road teeth? Double road teeth. So you're putting the team together. And I mean, you got, like roughly, do you know how many operations you guys have gone on? Oh, God, probably about 10 plus. I would say double digits. Yeah. Really?

10 to 15. Okay. So I don't know if it's worth going through all of them, but I definitely want to talk about maybe some of the operations that have been most impactful for the team. I know Jessica was talking to me about something to do with the Skimwalker Cave or something. I was like, yeah! Yeah!

I want that! That's the one of the things that we... That's the one of the cave that said the devil is here. You remember seeing that? Yeah, and that's one of the things, too, that we actually specialize in, too. It's not just shooting and communicating as well, but we also like caving. We do a lot of that too. I do not like giving.

No, he doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. My wife just bought me to gas detectors because I've been going into like old mines and caves and stuff. And I came home the last time and I told it. And I tried. I don't try hiding things from her, but I do try to omit certain things. And I slipped up and I brought up how we had a real strong smell of gas.

And so we had to kind of get out of the one spot. And next thing I know, like a week later, I have these two detectors sitting on the table. And she's like, I can't stop you from doing these things, apparently. So I'm going to at least buy these things to help you survive. Because she tells me all the time, don't go in case. I'm like, I don't think that's going to happen. But sure, dear. You know?

Yes. So, I mean, does it make sense to go into the Skimwalker one? Or you guys want to hit on something else first because I want to kind of get in this. We'll talk about when him and I first went on this single op, which talking to certain guys who actually do this for a living. Do what for a living? Hunt these things.

For a living? Yeah, there's a few. Yeah. You've talked to. Yeah. So I, yeah, so being in the tactical world, I guess, or whatever, shoot, move communicating all that,

military guys, excellent enforcement, like meeting a lot of these dudes. She's introduced me to a couple guys. Before you go any further, I need you to clarify, are these people who are, like, hired by, like, government agencies type of thing to go hunt these? these things?

Or these like... I know someone that's hired. It's a contractor. A contractor for like an agency almost. I mean, I don't know. Let's talk about the mythical person as a person that doesn't exist, but I want to hear the stories that don't really never happen. Yeah.

I want to hear about it. We'll just, we'll just leave it at that. This is going to be. We just keep doing these a lot. All right. Just keep doing these quotations. Let's write it in because I can't, I can't keep over talking everybody here because we got to think about the audience.

So one at a time. Okay, but we will circle back to that. I want to hear as much as you guys can tell me. Continue. Okay, so anyways, I got at the time, I had like a team of four guys at the time. And one of the guys that was, okay, so each guy on my team is specific at something. Okay. T does a lot of communications, overwatch, sniping stuff, stuff like that, you know.

And then this other guy does a lot of intel, all that, and then so on and so forth. You got guys who are breaching or whatever, you know, shooting rifle guys. stuff like that. So armor, whatever. But one of my buddies, he was on this forum that they basically, he just looked through the form that people who are having problems in certain towns, right? And on animals getting killed or people missing, stuff like that. So we were trying to figure out, okay, where the heck we can go next? So he's like, hey, check out this. Let's go over here and check out this spot, which is in, was it Mountain City? Mountain City, Tennessee.

It's like right at the tip, eastern tip of Tennessee, north, eastern tip of Tennessee. So, cool. Let's go check it out. So I try to get all the guys wrangled up. Couldn't happen. All we brought was three guys, me, Taylor, my buddy, Paul. So we went there, went to check out downtown, talked to couple people. And then this lady talked about going up on these logging roads.

but she said be careful because there's a lot of homeless, a lot of people that go missing out there, animal, stuff like that. That sounds perfect. Let's go check this out. So, and this was Taylor's first time, T's first time going. Yeah, it's one of those where I was, had a thought probably like, man, I believe. Like, it's cool. I believe.

But like, I've never seen anything. A lot of people have never seen anything. Yeah. Yeah. So as soon as we get there. I'm getting so excited. All right. So anyway, so we drive up.

How long we were driving, dude? I don't know, dude. I think it took like almost six hours to drive, and then we couldn't find a place to stay. Everything was closed off. Everything was closed. We tried to find like a camping spot. Then we were going to like hike into somewhere.

But everything, everyone was closed and like no vacancy. No, you know, two, three night minimum. We only stay at one day. Yeah. So we found like this logging room that was open and we're like, that's like a lot of the logging rooms were closed.

Yeah, we're closed. And we're like, well, shoot, if they freaking shut this while we're here, we'll just blow the freaking lock. off and we'll just keep moving, right? So, quotations. Andrew's not his real name. So we found it. We drove in a good couple miles in until basically, until it got too mushy, too muddy. We couldn't go any farther with the truck. So we found a spot, backed in.

And I have this thing I always do. Whenever we set up camp, I always set up a trip wire, about 50 foot radius all the way around. That way, if something trips it, I know what's coming. At least it gives us heads up. So did that. The guy set up. We were just cooking dinner, hanging out. It was dark. It was like 9 o'clock.

Yeah. You got dark quick on the mountain, especially when, you know, the sun sets behind you behind the mountain. Yeah. It gets dark quick. Yeah. So we did that. And then about 12 o'clock around there. Yeah.

It's about midnight. 1 o'clock. Midnight, yeah. Because we all stayed up as probably as late as we realistically could. It was a long day. Yeah. So we did that. And then so Paul goes to bed.

So me and Taylor just stay up hanging out. Next thing we know, we hear things coming down the mountain. Breaking branches, rocks roll. It's quiet, dude. It's real quiet, man. No bugs, no nothing. Everybody knows if there's a predator around. Dude, I think it's silent.

Dead silent. So I'm like, ooh, game time. And Taylor's like, what's that? You'll see. You'll see. So we're just kind of chilling. Next thing we know, triple arm goes off. Do do, do, do do do do do.

Rifles up. Frontal assault, go. Paul's like, what's going on? Just hang out, buddy. Hang out. He has his pistol out. Yeah, he gets his underwear, dude. Anyways, yeah, I love Paul, but he was going through some stuff.

So I'll give him that. He's good, he's good to go. So we go over there and check it out. Like, what the freak? Nothing. So basically, I set up the alarm again. So as we're going, we're hearing something pacing us. Not just one, but two.

And you got another one coming down. So we're hearing these things on left and right of us. Me and Taylor, back to back rifles up. Just listening, listen, listen, and throw my night vision on, look, can't see nothing throw my night vision up. As we're focusing over here, North alarm goes off.

We turn around, South alarm goes off. Like, oh God. So it's getting too raunchy and terror's like, screw it, pop off some rounds. Boom, boom, boom, boom. These things just take off. So I go set up the alarms real quick.

And I'm like, what the f? I wish we had more guys. So after that, we just kind of calm down. We just let the fire burn out, Paul's asleep, Taylor goes in, his tent. I'm in my tent, prone position, nods on, I don't care, I'm up, just scoping, watching, scope and watching. And then next thing I know,

I kind of doze off, and I hear like this zombie sound. This guy's throwing up. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Just listen, just listen. We all ate the same thing. Exactly. But here's what happened, though. He was throwing up. I get out on, what the freak you good? So I'm good. Next to you know, the alarm goes off behind him. Do do do do do do do do turn, grab him, rifles up as he's throwing up still and pop off some more shots again.

Gone. We go set the alarm. And I'm like, dude, I don't feel good. I feel weird, man. Yeah.

I remember I was super lightheaded and like everything was like, like not blurry, but like spinning. Like I just like, dude, I'm just out of it. He's like, pull your gun out.

dude, I was, stop pointing at me. Stop pointing at me. So, I'm like, dude, I'm not much help right now, dude. I'm just, man, I just my, I remember specifically all the hair of my body was standing up. I remember that. Yeah. And you got zapped. Yeah.

So I was just like, I was just like. Yeah, he's out of it. Yeah. Infrasound. Yeah. So that's what you talked about earlier. The infrasound, dude, it just hits you. Yeah, just hits him.

So I was thinking like, okay, like doing some research on these things. okay, as a predator, right, you're going to go after your biggest threat or your weakest one. It depends on how you're feeling salty or not, right? So if you throw it in for sound, you can grab the biggest guy and you work your way down, or you grab the weakest link and work your way down. It just depends on how you're feeling. So that was my opinion. That's not, I'm right, but that's just what I was thinking.

They're going to go after him because he was the biggest threat, basically, you know, and work their way down. But after that, it calmed down. I'm still up. Everybody fell asleep. I finally, you know, fall asleep. T wakes up like dude let's just go track and let's go see what the heck we can find because we know there was a couple of them out here It was because it was like it was dark and we both had lights on Lights on our rifles and stuff and those go out you know the woods where it's super dense

Woods and so because it's a national forest out there Yeah and it's like the lights would go I don't know 30 feet And the dark just it just did it just be like black just pitch black I just eat and like you would always feel like you'd hear like a right here like a moving through the yeah bipedal you'd follow not not not quadrupeda but but bipedal running yeah you would follow it and be like dude what the thing you it would be like right outside the light range yep and then you hear behind you it's almost like they were trying to get me

and him both of like flanking yeah like to not pay attention for both of us looking the same way yeah yeah i think they're just testing out the boundaries checking to see like what we're about checking our security system stuff like that so but then after that we woke up in the morning dude, let's just go, let's go track. Let's go look at what we can find. And I was like, Paul, you're making breakfast since you weren't up the time. Yeah, Paul never came out of his tent the whole time. He was out.

He was sleeping. Poping off around. He was sleeping. Poping out of the lines. He never came out. He's a good old boy. Oh, he is a good old boy. Yeah.

I love that boy to death. He's hardcore. But he's like, that's what we call sound machines when I was growing up. I was like, yeah. Put this way. He lives in a hauler. So just saying, but yeah, he was out. He was out.

He's like, dude, I mean, hear you guys. man. Dude, you'd hear a screaming? He's like, no. Yeah, we popped up on the team. Oh, he's still on the team. Perfect. Yeah.

He's still on the team. I love the guy of death. His job is the cook, not security. Breakfast was bomb, yeah. He's bombing cooking, man. I'll give you that. But what was funny, though, before we did that, though, before everything popped off, I was like, hey, get your keys and go put him in the gas door.

He's all white. Because if you get drug off, dude, there's no keys. There's no keys. So put them somewhere where we all know where they're at Sorry, bud We'll come back later We're going to go get a help We are the help

Wow Yeah so after that we went tracking and then we went up this ridge Nothing but mountains, Tony, as far as we can see It's just miles Miles of mountains, dude going up Appalachian Well Go ahead That was it

Oh yeah I went up there Believing But skeptical left 100%. 100%. 100% something was there. 100%.

Wow. I mean, I'm looking at Mountain City on the map here and to see where it is. It's not far from Bristol and but it's further out than Bristol, which is interesting. You're right on the border

of North Carolina and Tennessee. In fact, part of Mountain City actually crosses over into North Carolina. But this is, you're talking about rural? This is rural. It's out there. So when you went scouting,

did you guys find any tracks or anything that was breaking? Well, the thing was like, we found broken twigs stuff like that, trees, all that. It was, it was like during like fall time. It was during like Thanksgiving around that area. So you not know it leaves everywhere. So can't really seem, couldn't see much.

Like when you started, you heard them coming in, was it like, did it look like anywhere that like something large came through? Or was it like? There was a lot. There was already, I'm assuming like deer trails. Yeah. It was kind of a wide. There's an obvious like deer path. If you ever been out hunting ever and you know, you follow your deer path, they always take the same.

Yeah, they actually fall apart, at least resistance. Yeah, they always take the same every time because I have deer trails on my property and you can walk them. And so they're pretty wide enough to where you can walk through them. And some of them were really wide where you can tell where they've been through. And it's hard to tell, you know, it's a common path if something new has been there versus my day before we got there. So, yeah. All right, stick a second, talk about our sponsor, which is simply safe. Have you ever felt leaving your house or going home that maybe something is not totally right?

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And then we'll go to Jessica where we went on that skin walker. Skinwalker. The devil is here. Pull your palm pad or whatever it was, you said, and write down on it. I have to show you some footage that I have as well. Take your hand notes. Oh, yeah. You also have a picture of the, that one, of the,

footprint. I got those. Yeah, I see, I have it too. You're talking about from the Skinwalker Cave one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a weird case. That was really odd. Were you the one that uncovered the case initially? Or? No, I think, well, Farah, who owned the property. She asked for help. Yeah, she'd asked for help. And I was talking to, I don't know if I had, I think I did know. I knew Farrah back then. Yeah. Timeout. What's this print for?

That was at the Skinwalker Cave. Make sure you send it to Jack so we can put on the video. Okay, so that footprint is part of why we were sent out there because Farah and her husband who lived on this property, it was like 500 acres of kind of farmland and mountains on some property up in Whitleyville, Tennessee. I'm glad to remember because I don't remember. Oh, yeah. Well, she and I had been in contact, and she and Drew had been in contact, I guess, and she said that her chickens had been going missing. And she had a chicken coop. They had just moved in this cabin. They bought this cabin site unseen.

I don't, they didn't, I don't know if they knew there was a cave 30 feet from their back door. Yeah. But it was creepy. It was a weird place to live, but like, man, it was super cool. It was beautiful, man. It was beautiful. But there was a cave, a huge cave opening right behind their back door. 30 feet away from their house, like literally right there.

So we went, well, and I don't think she knew the Skinwalker part of that cave yet. But she didn't know the lore behind it when they bought this house. Like I said, it was sight unseen. They just knew they were going to live in a nice cabin right at the bottom of a little mountain base right there. So when she got there, she went immediately up to that cave entrance and said that it was so creepy. At some point, she started leaving a voice recorder out there during the day and at night. I think she was paying up voices out of that cave. She eventually went and did some research on this place and found out that a shaman, a Native American shaman,

had banished and sealed inside that cave a bunch of skin walkers. The chalk tall, that was chalk tall in. So she had had some prized chickens, like her babies. This is beautiful chickens that she'd put in a coop right outside the entrance of that cave, which was right at her back door. And the chickens started disappearing. Now they weren't, you know, weaseling their way out of this pin, had a latch on it. they were something was coming and opening up the pen taking the chicken like one at a time taking the chickens one at a time there were at least two probably more and the only thing that would be left of these chickens were feathers and at some point the last chicken they took which was her breaking point there was a stick a long stick that had been poked into the backside of the chicken coop so something with hands okay had taken the stick and poked it in there and flushed the chickens to the front where the door was and there was a

a big pile of feathers right there and then feathers going into that cave entrance but there was no sign of a chicken. Now, if that were a predator, I think that would have left some skin, some blood, some something, some guts, you know, if it had eaten it right there. Like bobcat or something? No hands.

Yeah, it would have been less clean. Yeah. Well, there was that footprint. Yeah. By the chicken coop. Did anybody get a measurement of it? Because I remember, dude, I was like, I wear a size 11 and a half shoe and it was. Yeah, it was about a good 14 inches, something like that. It was, it was. That picture you just showed me.

It was big. Wow. Yeah, and not only that too, she actually took a picture of like that shadow dogman figure. I've been trying to get that picture from her. Oh, is it from her cameras? What was her name again? Farah. So Farah had a picture that she took of a shadow dog man thing. Did she see it when she took the picture?

Was it something that she reviewed the picture afterwards and saw it? Well, she saw it because when she walked out to go check on her chick and she heard her grow and looked her right and she freaked out. And then she took her camera and took a picture and you've seen it duck. And then it came up full-fledged. just see the whole silhouette of it. Straight up canine ears, everything. And it was like, what? I'm impressed with her.

Yeah, she had cameras all of her house. The fact that she thought to do that, I mean, that's in the moment. The first instinct run. Yeah. I'm going back inside now. Yeah. Well, she had cameras all outside on the corners of her home. Yeah.

And whenever she would have a chicken that would go missing, the cameras would be moved. Really? Yeah. So something was like moved in the cameras. And they picked up and moved or just turned. Moved them. Turned them. Really.

Yeah. And then they do what they do. Change the angle of it. So at what point does she start feeling like this was something like crypted or haunting versus a neighborhood person taking her chickens? Well, it was. Two neighbors? She had two neighbors. And it was all of it.

She knew it was paranormal. She figured it was crypted. Yeah. I think the neighbors were like elderly. Yeah, but also too across the street. The neighbor moved in there was like three weeks and he left because he saw something huge running across the field. I'm out of here. Right behind.

It was like a 25-acre flat farmland food because that's where I was looking at when I was on the overwest position. Where in Tennessee is this? Middle north. Middle north. So out near the back 40 of Fort Campbell? Like Clarksville area? It's Whitleyville. Look it up on a map. I have no idea. You haven't been out there in like, was it two years? It's the very tip, very north tip of Tennessee. Yeah, it was, she had so much activity there. A lot of stuff that was picking up on. She had orb activity too. And when we got there, I actually took my ghost hunting equipment because, you know, a lot of times when we're out in the field,

we'd take our ghost hunting equipment. We use all sorts of different types of equipment, but I had my REM pods, my voice recorders, my EVP stuff, you know, millimeters, K2 meters and all that stuff. And so we started using that. And it turns out we were getting a whole bunch of when we got there, we set up the REM pod, we set up the SLS camera towards that cave. And we were getting paranormal activity out there. We were getting paranormal activity out there. It wasn't just crypted stuff going on. We were picking up figures in the SLS camera. And it was not just regular figures. It was like one giant figure and two little tiny figures. Yes. Yeah. And it was up in the ceiling. What is it like crawling? They came out of a hole. They came out of a hole in the cave on the side of the cave. They crawled down. The two little ones started, one of them started dancing around the antenna on my rim pod. We have it all video on video.

Do you think that was like some kind of interdimensional skin walker kind of thing? Well, see, well, there's the thing. I started questioning, can Saskwatch be ghost? Finally, we're getting there. Sasquatch or giant? I mean, this was a giant. This was a giant. It was giant. Because the ceiling of the cave was like 15 feet tall.

It looks like I also had horns, too. Remember that? Really. Yeah. It's huge. Yeah. Well, they said that it was a skin walker cave. Okay.

So the cave ceiling's 15 feet. How tall did the ceiling was it? Would you say? How tall do you think this thing? Well, basically, okay, so the entrance of the ceiling was 15 feet. And as soon as you go in, it dips, like, the floor goes down, and then it opens up even higher. Almost like a cathedral ceiling. We were set up at the entrance.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That thing was, it was almost to this maybe 10, 10, 12, maybe 15. It was crawling, too, by the way. The fact that you say it has horns is interesting because in Pennsylvania, there's an old newspaper article from, I think it was north central Pennsylvania. they uncovered giant bones. It was like a burial site.

I think it was like 40-ish skeletons. And there was a picture of one of the skeletons and it had horns. I just covered that. Oh my gosh. I just covered that in Pennsylvania, the horned humans.

I just did a show on how much we did. I did. So maybe the horned humans weren't just Pennsylvania. Maybe they were nephalum that had horns. Yeah. Who knows?

I mean, this guy's a nephalum. So. Yeah, they think I got them on the team Yeah Yeah, speak their language Yeah, well that's why you go along To call them Yeah

Yeah So all right So you guys are investigating the cave And you found those footprints Going to the cave We saw feather There were feathers It was like yeah

Going into the cave The chicken feathers So something was Taking the chickens out And carrying them up into that cave But when we got there the bottom of that cave floor was all mud, big mud. Figured we'd find some tracks on there.

Zero tracks. Nothing. It was like, it was basically almost like that clay mud and get stuck to your boots. You got to scrape it off with the rock and stuff. Yeah. We were losing our shoes in the mud, basically, when we were walking. So, I mean, so whatever was going in there, okay, this is my assessment, right? I was like, all right, you see, it's got to be something that's climbing the walls,

something that is disappearing into some kind of portal. Okay, because it did fit. I know this may sound crazy. A lot of people, to me it doesn't. Okay, but as soon as you walk into that mouth of the cave, it's a whole other realm, literally. I believe it. Yeah.

I believe it. Yeah, and then we went in pretty far. The only reason why we stopped because we ran out of rope. Okay. No joke, yeah. Bring it on rope. It was creepy. Yeah, we brought about 300 foot a rope.

Yeah, three to 500 feet. Yeah. You just trail it behind you so you know which way you came from. Yeah. Because it's one of those, like, you would take a right left. Yeah, so what we did was. Different interests that, you know, dead end and you just keep going. So I brought, like, doing this for a while.

I always bring like 20 plus camlights. So I drop them about every 20 feet, right? If you need to cut out, I just keep, you know, you keep going where the light is, right? So, and then we hit this certain part at the edge of the cave to where me and Brian roped off. Me and Brian went down. T was over there holding the rope. You guys had a rappel down. We actually had a repelled it.

And then we climbed up this, like this face. And then it dropped down 100 feet. Like I dropped a camlight down. Brian dropped a camlight down there. We couldn't see it. So it opens up even more. But the crazy part is, though, is when we're going in there, there were entrances of the cave that were concreted off.

Yeah, they concreted them off. Yeah. Why didn't they concrete the one off that you went in? That's the question. Well, there was actually a college or some type of Tennessee Cave Society that had put some sort of piping down that went in from the entrance of the cave deep into the cave. And I'm not exactly sure why that was all there, but it was some kind of drainage, I'm assuming. And that may explain kind of why those concrete, those holes were concreted over.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. The concreted over part, what if whoever did the concreting knows what's, in there. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. And in order to contain the direction it moves, they walled off the ones, the entrances they don't want to go out and in so they can focus in on where it would become.

Funnel it. Yeah. Exactly. See? They're not trying to keep us out. They're trying to keep something in. And that was actually the lure behind that whole cave is that skin walkers were banished by the shaman, by the Native American shaman to seal them inside that cave.

Now, there's no rebar on the front of that cave. cave, there's no kind of stone that's like blocking the entrances. It's wide open. So it's like a spiritual banishment into there. There's something spiritual right there, I guess, but they had, they did some physical blocking inside. Are we sure that this cave that we're talking about here with the banishment and all that? Are we sure this is the cave to that legend? It's the cave. Yeah. Wow. That's wild. Well, it was a trip, though, going back to that, though, to me, what kind of kicked it off is when she said she put that offering down at the beginning of that cave at the entrance of that cave when she moved there so she went there hey yada yada I'm here you know I'm not gonna take over your land I'm just here to live here be peaceful so here's an offering and that's when everything started ramping up well they took those chickens as an offering right thanks yeah I don't want this petty tobacco does she know does she know the story behind it is that why she did that no no no she just does that basically it's almost like it's almost like us moving to our house and praying over it right So certain people do certain ways

on how they do things, right? So she was going there to say, whoever's listening, I'm here. At the entrance of the cave. What would make her think that there's anything to talk to at the entrance of the cave?

I have no idea. To make peace? Well, she inherently just felt something that was her gut. Okay, there we go. And there were also voices that she was hearing coming out of that cave.

It was just a very ominous feeling. She didn't like the feeling she got when she went up to the cave or in it. She said that she, it took all she had just to get up the nerve to even step a couple of feet

inside that cave by herself. I do not recommend going in that cave alone to anybody and yeah y'all either right it was creepy very creepy yeah so that's the extent of the

the cave no of that one and then was on the other side of the land there was another one she told us about so on the same property there's two caves yes it was 500 acres so it's there's a lot of land it's a lot of property probably more caves

yeah probably so she told us about another one so the next We went to go check out this other spot she told us about. So we went there and then this one we actually had a tie off to a tree. We had a rappel down 200 feet. So I'm like, oh, crap, man. If something comes at us, man. What we got is our pistols and like we, you better move.

There's no quick way in or out. Yeah. No. So anyway, so we get there, drop some candle lights down. Everybody repels down. And I'm worried about someone or something cutting that rope and we're totally screwed. We're screwed. Dude, there's no way out.

If the rope was gone or something, no way out. Yeah. So all was rappel down. So we start going through there. I'm taking point. T. and Brian are behind me. Z and OJuse are taking the rear part. And they're just looking behind them. And we're just following, just going to these areas. And we found tracks, almost look like bear tracks or cougar tracks, right? Because it was rocky. And then it goes into that clay mud again. Okay. And then we come up to like almost like a dead end. I'm like, okay, let's just turn around because it keeps kind of wise off. What did like the, it was like a, you could walk, it was like a narrow aisleway. It's from what I remember, there's a narrow aisleway. There was like water.

Yeah. And then you were like, wonder how deep. Because like, there's nothing with case. If you see water, you don't know how deep it is. You don't. Yeah. And I remember one of us, somebody was like, let's take a step or something. I was in front of it.

I was one that did that. Or like, let's test how long deep it is. And it's like, you can't touch the water. Yeah, because I was like, I found a, I found a long. stick around there. I was like, let me see that real quick. So I braced myself on each side on my foot hanging and I just like, dude, I'm having Brian like hold me, holding my warm belt. That way I don't fall in. So kept going. I just dropped it and just went down, down, down. So I dropped a camlight and it went down, down, down. I'm like scrapped that. We're not going this way. Because if you

trip and fall, it's like 15 feet of water. Yeah, if that. Who knows? Who knows how deep it goes. So then we. But it's clear because you got it's beautiful. It was clear, dude. Yeah. Almost made you want to kind of, let me try that. No. A little stale. Yeah. So then after that, we actually backtracked, went to this other part of the cave. And then this is where I thought I saw a crawler, a shadow figure coming out.

Because I started reading up on Skinwalkers when Jessica was telling me all this intel and stuff. She was getting from a couple buddies. So one of the things I was learning was don't whistle because it draws Skinwalkers. So I'm taking point. So I whistled. So I was taking point. We're coming around this curve and I see something poke its head out like that. But it was a shadow.

I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I told the guys, hold up. Pulled my pesto out with the light looking. I'm like, and then T's like, F that, I saw that. So I'm trying to get it out. But I was like, okay, we're not, we're stopping right here. We're going back. Yeah.

Yeah. So if I start doing pop shots, I'm afraid rocks my star. yeah, you're in a cave. Like, that's the one thing with cases. That's like the last. Like this. Yeah. It's like the last resort. Yeah.

You create those vibrations and all of a sudden, the whole thing's going to create caving in, especially those old minds, man. Yeah. Yeah. When we got to that point where you guys had to repel in, where we ran out of rope, there wasn't,

wasn't it like, that's where there's like another hole where you couldn't go any further. That's where it said the devil is here. Oh, yeah. What? The devil is here. In the crawler? And spray paint.

No, no, no, no. No, in the cave before. The first cave. Behind the house. Behind the house. The devil's here? Yeah. And spray paint.

The devil is here. Holy crap. Ever got about that. Like, go and you guys. So people like, that was like, yo, that's your warning. Like, we're just going to, sh, devil's here. Don't come in. And then to combo off that, that later that night, if you want to go into that, we're using the name of that machine you were using.

The REM pod. We had a REM pod. We had an SLS camera. We had recorders out. And that's when we picked up the figure. We were getting voices, too. A lot of voices. See, Farah and I stayed, we stayed back at the front of the cave while the guys went deeper in because I, first of all, I'm not a big cave fan.

But second of all, I knew, you know, there was just a lot of us. And if, and if something were to cut charge at us from the other end, all 10 of us are not going to get out of there. Traffic gym. With all of the mud. Exactly. So I was in the back. I was like, yeah, we're going to. So we stayed in the front.

And Farah and I did some, we did some like kind of, she's more paranormal-based. you know, and so she wanted to do some paranormal experiments kind of and see if some voices came through and get the dowsing rods out and stuff to see if she could communicate. And we did. We ended up doing that. We did have, she had a device on her phone where like voices were coming through. They were talking about being, like, people who had lived there before and had passed away and their souls were kind of like living there, like normal, normal everyday humans, okay, with families that went, but way back probably to the, you know, 1800. or whenever. I don't know. Doing this paranormal stuff for so long, I don't know what's what anymore. You don't know who you're talking to. You don't know what you're talking to.

It could have been anything. There's a lot of deceit in that too. A lot. They'll say, I'm one thing, but. Yeah. That's actually how familiar spirits work. They just, you know, lie.

But what was the trip, though, going off of what you're saying about the people and stuff like that. Me and Brian, in the first cave, we went off deeper onto this other part. We had to squeeze through, squeeze through like literally squeeze through and we kept going and I'm like God oh God please let us get back

so there was no way to turn around we literally had to keep going until we find a spot to turn around and come back well as we were doing that we found this we found a bunch of basically almost like fire pits you know people camping or something like that like in the cave old petrified wood that was stacked up

you know almost look like a burning pit right there you know you look up it's just a little hole where their vents out You know, it was deep in there, man. That's after you had to squeeze in. Yeah. Wow. Wasn't there a coffin somewhere?

Like somebody had drawn a coffin? Oh. That was towards the entrance and like to the left. It was like another cavern that went left where, didn't it look like a burial? It looked like like stacked rocks for a burial. Yeah. Which none of us touched. Nobody touched it.

It's not like the bell witch cave. You don't bring anything. Yeah. But somebody, I remember either Zook or you while crawling. because I remember Zook went too. He's slender and he was able to fit in certain places where I could not. Because you're a Nethul. Yes.

Yeah. Thanks. But I remember he said that he moved something. I don't know if he told everybody that. He, like, while crawling in there, he was like, oh, what is that? You know how, you know, he's like, oh, wow. ADD. Yeah.

And so I remember him saying like he moved something. And I was like, okay, cool. And I didn't know what to say. Cool. Then when you were doing the, the, the, RIM pod. It said It said something about Moved something

And it was... And I was like... I guess it was like... Zuck, do you tell anybody that? He was like, no, man. Just you were like Andrew or something like that And I was like...

This, it said like you moved... Moves, moves something. And it was specifically, I don't remember what it said. Maybe it's on the recordings, but it said you moved whatever that was. He was like, I moved that

inside there, it came when I was crawling around. Wow. Like, what? Oops. I know. Was there any repercussions for that? Did he ever say that he had issues after that?

No, as far as that, like, especially with the guys on my team, we're all Christian and stuff like that. So we pray before we go and then we all pray after, you know, we get anoint and all pray over each other and stuff like that. That way nothing follows us on. Very intercostal of you. I dig it, by the way. Wow, wild stuff, man. Like, that's crazy. I would love to see this cave one day.

Do you still talk to her? Yeah, we still talk. She moved. She moved a few months after that, right? Yeah. So she isn't on the property anymore? No. No.

But she can get a hold of the person who does. Does the person who does know what's going on on the property? Yes. Yeah. They're good with it? I mean, what do you mean by good? Like, good us going? Yeah, well, good with you going, but also, like, good with the activity.

Like, they don't have a problem with it, or they haven't had experiences, I guess, or? I don't think they live on the property, so they probably don't have to worry. worry about it. They don't live on it. I don't, if I'm on a mistake, it's 500 acres or they live like way. And they don't have poking around like we did. Yeah, they don't go poking around. They just stand in their house. We were poking around. Oh, I want to talk to these people. Yeah. So I'll talk to Farrah too. Ooh, get ferret and these people, the new owners on the show together. I'll hit her. That'd be a lot of fun. Oh, gosh. I don't know. You know, another strange thing was that there was that there was a lot of toys and like little remnants of children's stuff. But of course.

In the cave? Yeah, in the cave. In the cave entrance. I remember seeing like little little things that kids would have owned. But of course, there could have been kids that lived there. Yeah, probably. I'm sure. And another thing to note was that it was like 125 degrees out there. When we'd go outside and you'd go in the cave. Because caves have their own ecosystem.

Yeah, it was like a refrigerator down there. That's what we hung out most of the time was inside the caves. It was so hot. What'd you look at? Oh, what's up, William? We got a party crash here. Hey. How's it going?

Good, bud. Sorry, y'all. The permapacher consultant in the house. How are you, man? What's up, y'all? How are you doing? Good. Hey, what, do?

Yeah. What's up, man? I'm messing everything. All right. That's wild, though. All right. So, man, I lost track of my thoughts.

So, so we're talking about the stuff in the cave entrance. With the kids, the kid's stuff and. So, I mean, refrigeration. This cave is wild.

And I totally want to, I mean, it's not far from me. Like, I mean, it's what, two hours away? Oh, yeah.

It's not that bad. We had to go back. It's worth going to. I'd come back for that. Yeah, let's do it. And it's like... We're looking at a map. It's 125 degrees outside.

What's crazy is that like... I had no right. The Daniel Boone National Forest in Kentucky is just north and east of that. And the cave... What people have to understand when we're talking about this cave is that Tennessee of all the states in the union has the most caves. Yeah. And then Kentucky has the...

the second most caves. And I don't think it's an accident in Tennessee and Kentucky have so much activity when comes to this stuff because these things do live underground. That's why I look. And also like the portals are, you know, they jump through the portals and the caves and that's how they. Oh, yeah. They travel through the portals for sure.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Faris say that she would wake up in the middle of the night hearing a train underneath their house vibrating? Really? She did. So you know all about that. It's one of the things that they built under the, right? It's probably the train highway that just extending the airport. Yeah.

Wow. Wow. So the Mountain City, what do you think that was? Bigfoot? Yeah. So you got Bigfoot Mountain City. We just did the Skinwalker Cave. You got a dogman story for me to get this trifecta going? We just got back from a dogman hunt in Alabama. I was not able to go. How was that? We missed you. Yeah. Did you kill it? No.

We're not, our aim is not to kill. Oh, man. Mine is. Mine is. Mine is. Mine is. We talked about body bag, stuff like that, right? Oh, my God. I almost had a heart attack when you were. We were talking about that. I was like,

oh my God, should we be talking about that? We're going to get censored and banned and all sorts of stuff. Oh, well. But none of you. Yeah. Well,

it was all for entertainment purposes only. Yeah, she had to cut me off. I was like going over my plan of what we're going to do. I was like, we'll talk about it later. Let's talk about in private. It's called OPSEC.

Yeah, Opsacks. Opsack. So how did this trip go to? Was there any activity in it? Yeah, a little bit, man.

There was. The hike sucked. We hiked in. We actually hiked in. We were backpack hiking, backpack camping. And so, you know, I got to tell him about the dinosaur too. Okay, or not the dinosaur, the dragon. The dragon.

All right. So we're in the deep woods of Alabama. Are we going to get, we're not giving the location way, right? It's undisclosed location. Let's just say it's on some federal land. Okay. And so we go, we all meet up and we're getting all our stuff unpacked out of the vehicles and we're getting ready to go hike in. And this gentleman comes hiking out of the woods

And he's carrying this big stone And I hear him talking to the guys And he's like, hey, y'all know anything about dragons? The guys are kind of like, yeah, we know about dragons But they were not so interested But I was like, hey, I know about dragons Because I knew where he was going with it And he said, well, hey, this is a dragon's wing

And I was like, oh, really? She was like, well, you've heard about petrified dragons before, right? And I said, yeah, of course, you know And I said something about mud fossil, you know, University. And he said, yeah, much of I watch Med Fossil University. He goes, well, I've been coming out here for a while. He said, and right on this trail over here, if you hike down so far, there's a dragon and you're going to hike right over its wing. And I was like, oh, no way. No way. There's actually a petrified dragon out here. He said, yeah, he's, he actually had a brush

in a stand. I have a picture of the, of him holding this thing. And he's got a brushness out where he's been going out there and brushing off the dragon. Really? Yeah, really. Yeah, what was the trip, though, was that when we walked... You didn't hear about this. Did you tea? Oh, yeah, my bad, man. So when we were walking in, I didn't see it, but when we're walking out, that's like, oh, God, there's a tail.

Yeah. Really? There's the spot. So you can really see it, huh? How big? To me, it was about, how, like, what was like 50 feet? I'd ride it. I'd ride on his back.

That's kind of large to forget, bro. Why did you tell your boy? Because I was worried about the heat, like, I was Tom, about the graveyard we went in. We actually ran into, abandoned graveyard. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. How old did it? Could you tell how old it was as far as like the tombstones? There was revolutionary war soldiers.

Yeah. Really? Yeah. Wow. It's probably older than that. How deep in the trail do you guys think you were there? It was not deep at all. It was like right on right when you go in. Okay. Wow. So all right. You guys discovered it dragon. We want to check that off the dragon. Yeah, I want to discover. I want to discover the Alabama. The Alabama dragon. The Alabama dragon.

Bama dragon. Dibing its mouth. Operation Bama dog turned into Operation Bama dragon. I'm a dragon. Yeah. So you guys go down there hunting a dog man. What turned up with that? Okay. So when we went there, one of the operators, Brian and his dad,

they actually just went out there just camping and they had a crazy experience out there. So he was like, dude, he's telling me about it. I'm like, hey, let's get the guys. Let's go. Let's go back and check it out. Okay. So a lot of the guys couldn't go because of scheduling issues. So I told Jessica, too, I was like, hey, let's go.

So it was just me, you, BX, Ryan and his dad. And, yeah, so we got there. We hiked in. God, how many? It was a long way and it was a hundred and twenty-five degrees again. Five, six miles, something like that, hiked in. And we were just done. So he's like, all right, we got to the spot.

I'm like, dude, you're killing us. So. It was up hills both ways. Yeah. Up hills both ways, no shoes. In the heat. Not snow this time. So we got there and set up camp and stuff and like,

exactly in the spot of where he had his encounter at. So we just had up camp, just chilling out. Nothing was going on. And he's like, okay, when it starts to get dark, that's when things come out. I was like, yeah, of course. So it was, I think you were laying on your hammock. We were a hammock camping.

Yeah, we're a cryptid burritos, basically. So she was in her hammock, and we were hearing something pacing. And this leads to the little juvenile footprint we found. So we're hearing something pacing, kind of speedwalking but stopping. Where the freak is it at, man? We can't see it.

So we're just listening, waiting. I got their rifles out. I'm chilling. My buddy BX is behind me. And I hear it. So I just take off running, pistol out running. And not realizing who's got my six? They all back there.

I was like, hey, hey. So I was trying to flush it out to go that way. that way Brian and his dad can have a beat on it, right? We hear it running, all of a sudden, it just stops. What heck did it go? I don't know. So I walk back and they're over there with the rifles. They're like, dude, where's it at?

We heard it running towards us. Where is it at? I don't know. Oh, I heard the running. Yeah. Definitely heard it to run. Jessica's like, what was that? What just happened?

Well, I thought that you got, I heard that y'all were chasing something, but it almost sounded like there was somebody fell or like somebody did like, a screeching hall or something. I just heard like a lot of commotion. Yeah. I thought there was something bad going on. I was missing out on the action laid in my hammock. Yeah. And then that happened. And then later on at night, she was at the woodline edge just kind of in the woods looking and so was I and we're just kind of listening. Nothing much. And then everybody kind of camped out, went to sleep. So I was up doing Firewatch and so it was a BX. And then Brian got up to make some coffee. This was about two in the morning and then we're in the middle of this park, mind you. Deep in this park, right? Next thing I know,

I hear this jet engine. All three of us do hear this jet engine far away. And it's getting closer and closer and closer until it's right on us. And it's so loud. We're having to yell at each other and close our ears. What the freak is that? Have our flashlights up looking around and does that for 15 seconds loud. It just cuts off. This is nice. Nighttime? It just cuts off. And I'm looking at my watch. Do I got missing time? What's going on? No. Okay. That was weird. BX was like, dude, what the freak was that? I don't know. Brian's like, eh, drinking his coffee goes back on a smack. Jeez, dude. Let me know when it's time to cook breakfast. Yeah. So, and then, you know, she was not, she was asleep. And then his dad was asleep and he got up and we're like, did you guys hear anything? They're like, nope. We're like, okay, that was meant for us, I guess. I don't know. Who didn't hear? She didn't hear. And then, um, she was sleeping. And then, um, And then Brian's dad didn't hear anything. And where are they located compared to you? Literally.

We're like, so basically, I'm right here. Jessica's right there. So like, okay. And here, his dad was right here. And they didn't hear it. They didn't hear a single thing. You heard it. Yeah, I heard it.

BX and Brian. BX and Brian. It was we were holding our ears like, what is that, dude? And you guys are yelling at each other because you can't hear. Yeah. What is that? They don't hear a thing. No.

Dude. And then it goes for 15 seconds and it cuts off. And we're like, okay. That's wild. that reminds me of the meadow because of how when they walked into the cube, the environment changed. It did. That is very interesting. I don't know what to make it.

I'm not saying that like a portal came upon you, but there's definitely a shift between your understanding of what was going around you and theirs. There was this bubble or something like you're in something that. Yeah, because when it was going on, I was looking at the vegetation and see if it was when, nothing. Your state of existence was different than hers at that time. I guess that's wild. But you know what else? Okay, so I've had instances like this happened before, like in the meadow. I was at home the exact same time, the exact same night, exact same everything,

of that when the portal opened, I had gone home right before that happened. So I wasn't in the portal when it happened. I was at home. And I had just gotten home from being in the woods. So my son was three years old at the time. He was happy to see me. I was in the kitchen making dinner. His dad was with him in the, okay, he's in the living room on the elliptical machine.

It's real fancy and everything I know. But my son was on the elliptical and his dad was videoing him on this cell phone. And I got called into the living room. He said, hey, you need to come see this. His dad was holding up his cell phone, videoing my kid on the elliptical. And I see these lights flying around the room. But I think it's a moth. That's like my first thought is like, oh, there's just.

are bugs, you know, and I say that on the video. You can hear me say it. And my son goes, mom, ball, ball, mom, ball. And I'm looking and there's these lights, these balls of light, two of them all around my son's head. His dad is filming them. I can see them with my eyes. My son can see them with his eyes, but his dad could not see them at all, except for through the screen on his phone. Okay, so, and eventually the lights shot towards his phone, and it cut his off, completely powered it down. Now, that showed me, and that was the exact same time, the portal was happening in the meadow. Okay. Ooh, and so somebody asked me, I forgot who said this. They said, what if, what if those ors were Tim and Bob? They had gone into the portal.

That was me. I think my talk to. Was that you? That was you. That's right. Okay. And I had never thought about that before, because it was almost the exact same moment. That's wild. Yeah. So what you just referred to was a conversation, episode 670, weaponized port. portals you were on with me. And then while we're at episode 617, the Meadow Project was with Trey. He came on and talked about the Meadow Project itself. Both are Heater episodes. I recommend if you haven't listened to it yet, go ahead and check it out, people. The idea that realm shifting, let me get off my Instagram here so people don't see that. And people around you not having the same experience is it's something to,

to, worth exploring mentally moving forward with investigations that all of us do. Because I'm starting to think that that happens more than we, we've ever understood and expected. It's just we are now coming around to the idea of having the language to convey. and so before it was like something really bizarre happened we're not going to talk about because we don't know how to describe it and now we got these crazy podcasts

and talking about portals and jumping through portals and fighting dog man with a toothpick and they're just like okay these guys are crazy and we can talk about that and so they you know

it's like I think things are changing and it allows these things to be talked about more and I think during these investigations being aware of the realm shifting because like I think we're all probably I'm not

I think you are too. Not sure about you, but I think we're all in the same level of these things probably are coming in and out of some kind of dimension. Yeah, androdimensional. Not that they're always existing in other dimensions, but I definitely think that they have these abilities. And if that's the case and you're hunting these things,

you might as well consider yourself a portal hunter as well. Yeah. You know? Oh, for sure. Right. Put that on my wrist, there you go. You know,

the portal in the meadow is not the only portal that my team's That's the only one that's been talked about. Really? And actually, now I'm on four different teams with Crypted Warfare. I'm on four different research teams. And my first research team, Enigma Research Group, we mainly are kind of based out of North Georgia. And there was an incident one weekend where one of the same guys, Tim, that went into the portal in the meadow, he experienced a portal in North Georgia, too. Now, it's interesting because Tim was a physicist and had a very interesting.

background. I'm not going to get into it. Honestly, I don't know a whole lot about his background. Okay. But anyways, it made me wonder, you know, was he targeted? Was he targeted? But that's just my thought on that. Wow. Yeah.

So I'm going to take this back like maybe 45 minutes to an hour. In the beginning this conversation, you said, and you said, and you said that you know people who are meant for hire, they do this, this is what they do, right? And we talk about agency type stuff as well. Is there anything that we can put on the table for discussion point on that, or is it really kind of low-key? Maybe not the ones that are in the-

I'm sure there's private. There's probably some equally private-private stuff, Which, I don't know any of them, so. Well, I mean, I can touch on it a little bit because I am not that person, so I don't know. I can only tell you what I've been told. This person told me first. Okay. Yeah, I was told firsthand by someone who claims, says, and I believe him, he's been contracted to do critter control is what I call it.

Critter control. And he's even told me the different types of weapons they use. And then as soon as they take the body of this dogman, it's dogmen. I mean, if you go back and I don't know. I got the chemical makeup of jumping in and out of portals. Well, they do. Well, they say that there could be a cryptid or dog man breeding program in the United States. And they are used as assets.

And I talk about this pretty often over on my channel. we talk about government assets you know the government and I hate seeing government because I don't think it's just like our government I think it's like agencies of some kind that are using that are utilizing cryptids they're using cryptids

do their work for kidnapping for assassinations for you name it and so and I and I was told by a good friend of mine who came on my show this past week he said he's got some insider information he said don't you ever talk about killing a dog man

He said, because you will, they'll come and get you. Because the majority of them that are out there right now, a lot of them, I'm not going to say majority, I'm going to say at least half, I think more, are government assets. They're not natural, organic dogmen that came from the earth or wherever they come from. So, two things. All right. One, we had Nathan Reynolds on the show not too long ago, and he talks about this.

He comes from an elite family, and he's basically blowing the whistle on his own family. He's sat in that chair. He's coming back in on Monday for another round. That's a good one. And he talks about these farms where they're growing these giant wolves. And it's just, it's wild. But so, yes. But also, there's a guy that will be on show eventually.

He's a trucker and he's all over to place. Last time he was in Knoxville, we had a snowstorm. We couldn't get to the studio. I was so angry because this. So it's the guy from the conference. I remember. Yes. So there's, you told me about that.

Yes. this guy Joe, people know his story now. He's been on several podcasts, but he sat down at the conference and he, I was there when he first told this story. You and I were right there sitting next to each other. He sat down with us and he tells us a story

and since then he's been on all these other shows and I told Joe, I was like, listen, man, since you've been on all these shows, when I have you on my show, it has to be in person and I want to, I want to dig on this. You know what I mean? Like, we're not going to be like, oh, well, you know, I'm running out of Zoom time on my subscription.

We're going to go hard on this eye to eye. But long story short, he was in Michigan fixing his brake lights, his airline on his trailer one night. He's on an incline where he stopped. He fixes the airline, gets back in, starts going up the hill, full load. I think he said it was like 80,000 pounds. So you're only going like 25 miles an hour, if that going up the hill, trying to get some gears going.

He looks in his mirror as a good trucker would do, and he sees this thing running up on the passenger side. out of his vehicle. He said it was a giant upright running dog that was so tall, it had a duck in underneath, to look in the window at him when it came up next to the cab. As a former trucker, I can tell you, he was more than likely when he was driving. His head, his head was probably sitting at about nine feet in the air while he was driving. And this thing had a ducked down to look at him. So this thing was probably about 10 to 12 feet tall. It ducks down to look in the window. I don't remember. Do you remember what kind of gun it was?

Yeah, I think it was a 44 Magnum. He pulls it out, blows its face off. It's right in the eye socket. Right in the eye socket. He drops it. Turns the truck around because he was planning on going down and running the thing over. And there was already a car there pulled over. He pulls over.

He slows down. He says, you all right? And they said, yeah, there was a giant bear here. And another one came and drug it off. Yeah. And he's like, that ain't no bear. and like looking back at it and with what you just said, I wouldn't be surprised that those people, that was their asset,

and they were there to figure out what was going on with their asset and recover it. I don't know. They're chipped. They're chipped. I've been told they're chipped. For sure. Potentially some of them are collared, but they're closely monitored. There's not one moment where somebody does not know where all of them are.

Also, too, I heard too. Some of them wear vests to keep them in control. If they get out of line, they're like a shot collar base of vent. Oh my gosh, can you imagine the first time you ever see a dog man, it's wearing a freaking vest. A chest rig. I'm like, buddy, where'd you get there? Yo, witness is the jackpot. This ain't no just, oh, I stumbled across a cryptic. I stumble across a weapon, man. We're going to kill it. No, no, no, don't do that. Don't do that. I heard you get in a big trouble. I'm just saying.

T-section. We're just kidding. I'll take the chances. I'm on record already. They already know. I'm out there to kill the freaking clear. You're definitely going to watch, lose. This was a fantastic conversation. You just want a claw for a necklace, don't you? I don't know what I'm going to do with them. I don't know what I'm going to do with them.

I'm just like, yo, let's just see if it bleeds. You know, like, this was a fantastic conversation, guys. Wow. Some fun stuff. Yeah, we've got to go on a hunt together, man. I would love to. Back to the case. I would love to.

I would love to. Before we get out of here, I want everybody to sound off where you're from and give people where they can follow you at. I want you guys to have as much exposure as possible. Let's start with you, T. My name is T. I'm part of the Crypto Warfare Operations. I don't have any social media because that's all Andrew. And here in Tennessee, hanging out with Tony Mark. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm Jessica Jones. I am also known as the Crypted Huntress. I'm part of Crypted Warfare as well. I can be found on my website, The Cryptidhuntress.com. But please go over to my.

YouTube channel, subscribe. It's the cryptid huntress. You can find me at the cryptid huntress everywhere on Twitter or X. I'm Huntress Jessica. And thanks for having us over here today, Tony. This is been fun. I'm glad you came. I'm glad you came. Right on, man. Hey, guys, my name is Drewski. You can find me over at Instagram, Facebook, all that underneath the Cryptid Warfare podcast. And you can also hit me up on Gmail, Cryptidwarfare.gum.com. You can go online, Cryptidwarfare.com. Yeah. Just Hit us up, man. We're there. Awesome. Awesome. And William, get your butt over here and plug yourself real quick. Come here, Will. I'm William from the permaculture consultant. If you need help with your farm or homestead,

then hit me up at the permaculture consultant at gmail.com or YouTube. Same name. Thanks, man. Wonderful. This is a fantastic, what? One thing. One of the guys, okay, I'm going to give a shout out to Larry Sharp. What's that, Larry?

All right, that was it. All right. The politician? Negative. No, Larry. Oh, man. Well, I appreciate. show you guys coming in and stuff. And I hope everybody enjoyed this episode because I certainly did.

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