The Confessionals - 712: Poison, Secrets, and Cover-Ups

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

In episode 712: Poison, Secrets, and Cover-Ups, William Bond from The Permaculture Consultant, who exposes the toxic aftermath, government failures, and shocking conspiracy surrounding the region. Whe...n Hurricane Helene tore through the Appalachians, it left destruction unlike anything locals had prepared for, a devastation that raised more questions than answers. Government inaction, suspected cover-ups, and dangerous toxins in the water and soil add to the chaos, leaving communities to fend for themselves as health crises emerge. Amid the chaos, he proposes a revolutionary solution; one that could not only detoxify the land but set a precedent for disaster recovery worldwide. William BondYouTube: @ThePermacultureConsultantInstagram: @thepermacultureconsultantHurricane Helene Relief Efforts List: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/helene-reliefSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsUNCOMMON GOODS: uncommongoods.com/tonyGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tony CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - Bones Ft. STNDNGRCKYouTube | Apple | Spotify

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Starting point is 00:01:16 I'm getting pulled off the best bush, and it couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals podcast. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you have a crazy wild experience, you want to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. That's contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section and you can reach me that way as well. Other words for me, just get a hold of me. If you want more shows on a weekly basis, we got you covered. The confessionalspodcast.com slash join is where you want to go. Or just go to YouTube and hit the join button there as well. both places get you the exclusive content, just two different landing spots for your convenience.
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Starting point is 00:02:57 He's been on the show, but he is my friend that was going to North Carolina and East Tennessee to help people with relief efforts after Hurricane Helene. And what he has to share today is absolutely disturbing. He believes there are things going on in the mountains that is absolutely actively being covered up by governments. And he comes on the day to talk about it. So let's get to William Bond. How are you? Pretty good. How are you, buddy? I'm good, man.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So listen, before we get into the topic of the day and discussion, I got to give you a proper shout out and this company. We were here in the studio and we just got done recording with Vicki Joy Anderson. And you popped in. and you brought gifts. And you knew me and Joel are about to go on another nephalum hunt. And so you brought us these special knives by heretic knives. And what's so special about this knife,
Starting point is 00:04:10 and if you're watching on YouTube or a video platform, there it is right there, is this model is called the nephalum. Yep, yeah, yeah, by heretic knives. Yeah, I saw it had nephalum engraved on there. And I was like, oh, yeah, these are, this is going to be perfect. And it's a nice, good, nice steel. It's called LMAX.
Starting point is 00:04:28 So you don't have to worry about rusting as good edge retention, good toughness. Should be able to stab through whatever you need to. All right. So we have Nephilim blasters and now we have nephilum daggers. And so I appreciate it, sir, very much. No problem. Yeah. So let me ask you, how you feel?
Starting point is 00:04:51 I'm feeling a little worn out, but I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. I know you had some truck issues yesterday, but you're maybe a little tired. But I want to talk to you, first of all, anybody listening right now, you're the guy I was talking about on several broadcasts about going out to the disaster zone and helping people get out and bringing in supplies and stuff. And you had the gifts and go that a lot of people were sending funds to. And last I check you had, you had raised over, what, 50,000 or something like that? Yeah, it was over 50,000.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And then GivesendGo actually gave a $5,000 grant to the GivesendGo as well. So, I mean, it's, yeah, it's been awesome. Thanks for bringing out the awareness to this Gives and Go. And thank you, everybody who's donated to it. Because you guys are the reason these people are still somewhat squared away. Like the government, I can't emphasize this enough. The government is only getting in the way. Like the government is not helping at all.
Starting point is 00:05:53 So just so we can give proper background, this is disaster relief for Hurricane Helene. Yep. And which was, I believe it was what, the end of September when it happened? It feels like so long ago. Yeah, about a little over a month, I think. Yeah. Is that long it's going on? There was absolutely, I mean, and I talked about it on a, I think it was a weird Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:06:20 day, but I mean, just completely destroyed the area. And we're going to get into, you know, what you saw and how this all kind of came about. And I want to hit on basically everything. So I want you to kind of share where we're at to this point, stuff, what you've uncovered, what you've found. And, you know, to kind of backtrack to the original question of me asking you how you're feeling, you suffered radiation poisoning. It wasn't radiation poisoning. It was some other toxin that I got into, which there's a plethora of toxins out there. But I was having kidney and liver issues, which those are major filtration organs or organs in your body.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And they were trying to filter out that crap that I got into. I mean, there's, I mean, everything out there. There's decomposing bodies. There's the, remember the Ohio trained arraignment, that vinyl chloride? Picture, like, okay, that was going to a manufacturing facility. Imagine that manufacturing facility now underwater. And that's where a lot of these PVC manufacturing facilities were. They were right alongside the river.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Also, there was a nuclear fuels facility alongside the river as well. And then there's also barrels from Oak Ridge that are washing up. So it's like without those, without the PVC manufacturing or without the radiation, all that stuff, there's still contaminants. Because if you think, like in these haulers, a lot of people are on septic. Those septic tanks got washed down strain. A lot of just the natural building materials and stuff like that. They're all, I mean, some of those can be pretty toxic. Or just some of the fuels that were in people's vehicles.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And, yeah, I'll wait to get into it. But yeah, there's a whole... Feel free to go anywhere you want. Let me ask you about the Oak Ridge. I want to just kind of jump into that. Real quick. I am clear from the toxins now. So I went through a detox protocol.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I can scoot in a little bit more. You're good. You're good. I am clear from the toxins. My body's squared away. We know how to fix this. And if anybody was out in those disaster zones, zeolite, which is a volcanic ash clay,
Starting point is 00:08:32 that's going to help pull the toxins out of your body. Taking that twice a day for about a month should get you squared away. I haven't been doing it quite as long as a month, but that's the protocol I was given. Also, Rina food, Rina food, R-E-N-A- Food. It's a kidney and liver health supplement, as well as taking iodine if you're going back into these areas, or if you've already left that area, taking iodine is definitely going to help, as well as taking in sulfur. I mean, there are cures to whatever you got into if you went out there. If you notice that you're having some issues, start thinking about some detox protocols, some heavy metal detox protocols as well.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, I mean, it's like, I don't know how many people actually think about the toxicity. of, you know, the aftermath of these events, you know, it's, you see all the water, you see all the flooding, wind damage, and you think, oh, it's over. It's like, no, no, no, there's so much more involved here. Yeah. It's like, people's, people's black boots were turning green after being in the mud. Really? Yeah, there's people who volunteer out there that don't show up the next day because they're sick. Um, all of the cadaver dogs are dying. Um, like, it's, it's pretty bad. The contamination is very, very bad out there.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And by itself, without those manufacturing facilities, it would be already kind of pretty crappy out there, literally with the septic tanks being washed up. But with those nuclear fuels facilities, the PVC manufacturing, and then whatever kind of deposit sites Oak Ridge had, it's going to be a super fun site. In fact, a lot of the houses have been condemned,
Starting point is 00:10:13 but the government hasn't told any of the homeowners yet. Well, how do they know it's condemned then? The guy who was in charge of grindstone media, or not media, ministries, bear independent, he ended up confirming that from the government that these houses, a lot of these houses are condemned. The ones that have been in contact with the water, in the mud, in the sludge or anything like that. There is a whole grand conspiracy at play with this. Some of it I can confirm just from seeing myself. Some of it is connecting dots.
Starting point is 00:10:46 but yeah, there's a whole grand conspiracy when it comes to the disaster zone of North Carolina and Tennessee. Yeah. I want to hear it. Okay. Because I mean, the extent of the conspiracy, not the extent,
Starting point is 00:11:01 but I want to talk about the Oak Ridge barrels that are popping up because is there any source as to like, oh yeah, that would come from here kind of thing? Or is it like one of those things where like, why is Oak Ridge barrels washing up around here. So for them to have come directly, first of all, Oak Ridge wasn't hit that bad when it came to the storm part. No, not at all. I'm between Oak Ridge and the disaster zone and I didn't get hit that bad. Yeah, yeah. So for them to have washed from Oak Ridge facility all the way to
Starting point is 00:11:31 those parts of North Carolina is like impossible. Like they would have had to get picked up and thrown in a tornado or something. So that's impossible. So what it makes you think is like, okay, there's some sort of deposit around here. There's some sort of, radioactive waste deposit or it didn't even have to be radioactive waste. It could just be like any kind of chemical. Yeah, anything that they just put into a barrel and then they bury deep into a mountain
Starting point is 00:11:57 so that way it doesn't get exposed. Well, the whole sides of mountains have washed off. Like, picture the mountains right over here, the foothills, you can see the trees, you can see the soil, you can see the leaves, all that type of stuff. Imagine it just being skinned and all you see is just the rock. That's what's left in some of these.
Starting point is 00:12:16 areas. It wasn't just the flooding that was an issue. It was the flooding as well as mudslides, as well as tornadoes in an area where we don't get tornadoes. It's a combination of a bunch of different things that hit that area. Man, man. So as far as the Oak Ridge barrels go, nobody's really sure where they're coming from because they couldn't have come from Oak Ridge. That means there must have been a deposit site somewhere. And nobody really knows where that deposit site is. All right, so how old are these barrels? Have you seen them yourself or is this? I haven't personally seen the barrels, but I've seen photos of different locations of people saying like, hey, where these Oak Ridge barrels come from?
Starting point is 00:12:55 Like, are they sketchy? Should we check them out or what? Now, I have had a goggar counter with me the whole time. Everywhere that I have tested, I have not come across nuclear radiation, but I also have not tested downstream of some of these nuclear fuels facilities. So it was partly being in like off the beaten path in the middle of nowhere and part of it just not being in the right location to test for nuclear waste. Now some of the areas downstream like the nuclear fuels facility in Irwin, Tennessee, that whole area you do not have access to. You cannot get access to it. If you're not part of the Tennessee Department of Transportation, you can't get access to it. There's cops everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:41 There's, yeah, there's just red flags, tape, all of that type of stuff all over that area. And it seems like a very, very large area to have roped off just to get the road back up and going. So, I mean, but you can look at any location in this disaster zone and witness like some sketchy stuff going on, like some stuff that just does not add up. Yeah, I don't even know where you want me to start. Yeah, no, I mean, I think we've already started. So let's stay where you're at right now, though, with Irwin. So there is a nuclear reactor there? It's a nuclear fuels facility.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Okay. So it's not a reactor, but they house nuclear fuels there. And it's right next to a PVC manufacturing place. I can't remember what it's called. But they're right next to each other. And if you didn't know any better, you might think, that they're the same facility. The PVC manufacturing place,
Starting point is 00:14:43 that got demolished. That was the one where, I don't know if you heard about it on the news, but people ended up dying because they went outside, they saw water in the parking lot. They went back inside and told them like, hey, we're leaving. And then the facility was like,
Starting point is 00:14:57 well, if you leave, you're going to get fired. And then some of them were like, screw it. I'm leaving anyway. And by the time they went out to their vehicle again, they couldn't leave because the water was so bad. Those two people,
Starting point is 00:15:09 places are right next to each other. So, yeah. And then, like, if you go miles down the interstate just following the river, you'll still see pipes and stuff like that pop up. Like, it's, it looks like a bird's nest of just large PVC pipes. Now, the nuclear fuels facility, they did a supposed leak test to see if anything was leaking or anything like that. And it came up just fine, which, come on now.
Starting point is 00:15:35 That's so convenient. Everything else didn't turn up just fine. Yeah, but directly downstream of that, there was a lady that emailed in saying, now a lot of this intel has been coming in from people just emailing in, saying that her property was tested and a bunch of her neighbor's properties were tested and they all came up positive for like cesium. Was it like 238 or something like that? Which is like according to her is like the weapons grade like cesium. So yeah, that's popping up. There's another location called Brevard. in North Carolina, they are not near a nuclear facility test site or nuclear fuels facility.
Starting point is 00:16:16 They're not near any of that stuff. But everybody who was tested in that community came up positive with radioactive poisoning, except for three people. And those three people prior to this disaster were already taking iodine. Is the lady you text me about? Yep. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:31 So it sounds like there's definitely some kind of, I don't know, I, I feel like cover. Do you feel like it's a cover-up? Do you think there's some kind of cover-up going on? Yeah. Or do you think it's just willful ignorance? No, man. No, we're past that point.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah. It's, and it's a sloppy cover-up. It's like, it's like the people that are covering this up are almost like, well, they're too busy trying to put their life back together. We don't even need to be careful about this. If you just go to the area and if you just like halfway pay attention, you're going to start noticing things. You're going to notice that the government is not helping.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Okay, so that FEMA alert that came out saying like, hey, avoid the Trump supporters. As soon as I heard that, it immediately made sense in North Carolina and Tennessee. So in North Carolina, there is one FEMA disaster relief center in all of North Carolina, even though North Carolina was demolished as far as like the other states go. In Tennessee, there's like four or five, but Tennessee wasn't hit nearly as badly. Now, the Tennessee side, that part doesn't make too much sense because that part of Tennessee, everything's red. Everybody's red over there. Now, North Carolina, the only place that they're receiving FEMA, like funding and help is from Asheville.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That's their only FEMA center where people can sign up and get benefits from is in Asheville. And that's about as blue as you can get. They make awesome food in Asheville, but their politics suck. and anywhere you go outside of Asheville is immediately red again because that's where you start getting the legit like hillbillies. The anti-ATF people. That's their whole livelihood. Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms,
Starting point is 00:18:17 that's the whole hill people's livelihood. Anywhere around outside of Asheville, you get immediately red. Now, Asheville is... Asheville and a little bit of Burnsville are the only two locations, like this city of Burnsville, are the only two locations where I've seen FEMA and the government. actually helping. Anywhere outside of that, you see just private entities helping people. And that, like, people like me, people like grindstone ministries, people like even Samaritan's
Starting point is 00:18:44 purse, they're going out there and they're doing some muckouts. But yeah, one of the first things that a lot of these people fixed after the disaster was their Trump sign. Now, I think their priorities were a little misplaced, but. Where do I find that Trump sign? That's about 10 miles down the river right there. Yep. Yeah, that was the first thing that a lot of these people, people fixed up. And if FEMA's rolling through trying to figure out who they can help and they see all these Trump signs, they see Trump nation out there in the hollers, they start turning. They're already in the mountains. They're already kind of craping themselves. And then you see Trump signs. It's like,
Starting point is 00:19:16 yeah, they probably turn right back around. And then also the people that I know that would have went out into those areas were all DEI hires. Whenever we went up to that disaster relief center in Jonesboro, of the four people, three of them couldn't be bothered to look up from their phone. And I asked those people. I said, hey, when there's people in North Carolina that are closer to this location than the Asheville location. Is it okay if they come here and sign up for benefits or do they need to go all the way to Asheville? Because it was like a one hour trip versus a three hour trip. And these people are borrowing rides. The guy didn't know the answer. The one guy that could look up from his phone didn't know the answer. So he called up his boss. And then he got back to me later saying,
Starting point is 00:19:57 yeah, they could come here, but it's going to be a lot of paperwork. So just send him to Asheville. I'm like, that's who we're dealing with here. People, they come to a community meeting in Jonesboro, Tennessee. They come to a community meeting and they start leaving early because they're eight hours for the days up. That's the type of people we're dealing with here. If you ever worry about the safety of your home and family, there's no better time to act than right now. Simply Safe is extending its massive Black Friday deal to my listeners. You can get 50% off a new security system.
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Starting point is 00:21:23 That's simplysafe.com slash confessions. There's no safe like SimplySafe. So there's a guy in Utah, his name's Eric, and he works for the government, the forestry service. and he came out to North Carolina I think he was in Mars Hill I think Mars Hill wasn't hit that badly that's where my parents live
Starting point is 00:21:55 Maybe it wasn't Mars. Was it Marshall? No, no, no. I'm pretty sure he said he was at least like going to Mars Hill but not you know stationed there kind of thing. That's a good place to headquarters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:06 So he was out here for a week and he went back because he said that they like And he's one of us. Like he's like, I don't think, this is my words, not his, but I don't think he's thrilled that he even works for the government. But he said, like, it didn't seem like anybody wanted his help. Like it was like, because it said government on the side of his vehicle, it was like they didn't want, they didn't want him to touch anything. Don't look at anything.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Just leave us alone. Yeah. I can, for sure. First of all, there's a mountain pride that comes along with these people. So the very first time I went out into these communities and I had a truck full of supplies. I was like, hey, what do you guys need? Take anything off the truck. Whatever you guys need, just take it.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And without an exception, everybody was like, I'm fine for today. Go ahead and check on my neighbor. I'm fine for today. Go ahead and check on my neighbor. Now, they're saying that, A, because they truly are concerned about their neighbor more than they are themselves. That's just the mentality of these people down here. also there's a certain level of pride that comes along with it like a lot of these people are very very prideful and they're like I don't need any help I'll figure it out even if they're cold and they're hungry now my second back because I hit the end of the holler I'm like dang nobody wants these supplies like I know they need it but nobody's like taking it nobody's telling me what they need on the way back I started saying like hey I've checked on everybody else here's what I've got left take what you need and then then I started getting people that were like kind of building trust with me.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And then also they were like, okay, I could actually. Since nobody else needs it, I'll go ahead and take some of this stuff. And then on the way back out, we ended up emptying most of the truck, especially all the diesel. I emptied out all the diesel. And I've got that big old stock tank. And then we had a bunch of canisters and stuff like that too. But it's, yeah, there's a certain level of pride that comes along with it.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And then there's also just the concern for their neighbor. And then also they're just very, very untrustworthy of new people that show up in the area. It was like that before this disaster happened. Like at my parents' house, it took us like six months to figure out our neighbor's name. Not because we hadn't talked to them. It's just nobody introduces their name if you're a new guy and they haven't vetted you first. Because they're like, don't bring your wherever you left, keep those politics there. We're going to keep this the same.
Starting point is 00:24:35 But they've also been screwed over by the first wave of fake NGOs that came out. So a lot of people were like, hey, just give me a down payment of whatever you guys can do right now. And then we'll come back out with the crew and we'll get you guys fixed up. And those people, a lot of the time, gave them their last dime. And those people never should, those fake NGOs never showed back up again. Like there was one time me and my buddy Michael, he was on the recon team with me. Michael ended up telling this one old guy like, hey, you're going to have to point a gun to my head. And I still won't accept money from you.
Starting point is 00:25:07 We are only here to help you guys. Like, whatever you guys need, tell us, and if we don't have it, we can go get it. Bear from Grindson Ministries made the joke like we're Amazon for the Hill people. And that's exactly what we were doing. Yeah, man, it's a, the government is not helping in the rural communities. And the areas that they are helping. Okay, so here's one thing about that part of Tennessee and North Carolina is that the Department of Transportation job. Getting a job there is like it's like a goal for a lot of these people because it's a secure job, retire in 20 years, and then you get a pension. It's like a very coveted job there, the Department of Transportation. Now, one thing that me and Michael noticed is that as we're driving through in the areas that the government is actually repairing the road along the river in these heavily contaminated sites, they're using 100% illegal labor. The reason I think that this is where,
Starting point is 00:26:05 speculation comes into play is like, okay, I know in this area, this is a highly coveted job. If they were hiring people, if they put out a notice that they were hiring people, they'd have that job filled in no time at all. Everybody around here wants that type of work. Also, in those mountains of North Carolina, there aren't a whole lot of illegals. Like, you don't see them behind Home Depot. You don't see them behind lows in those mountains of North Carolina. Probably because it's not an easy landscape to traverse if you're just kind of hoofing it.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Also, you can very easily get lost in the mountains and not have service and not figure out your way to get out. Now, I noticed that every single person who is working by the river or by a creek or in heavily contaminated zone were all illegals, which is a population that nobody around here is going to notice if they start dying off or if they start disappearing or if anything starts happening to them, if they start getting sick. It's not like they're going, they don't speak a lick of English. I know because I was trying to talk to them and say, hey, I'm trying to run meds to the other side of this gap. Can you all just pause for a second and let me get by? and he let me finish that whole sentence and then just shrugged and shook his head like, nah, I don't know what you just said, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But yeah, and it was like that case, it was like that with every person on that Department of Transportation that we try to talk to in those contamination zones. But it's a population that nobody notices around here that nobody notices if they're gone or not, which they're going to start dropping like flies, man. Like it's, the soil, the dust by itself,
Starting point is 00:27:33 you should still wear a mask for. it's very, very high in silica. And I think you can develop this one disease called silicosis, which is basically silica collected in the bottom of your lungs and is forming basically a rock. Like a rock is forming in your lungs and you eventually get to the point where you can't breathe and they can't extract it.
Starting point is 00:27:52 They can't do anything about it. So just that by itself, they should be wearing dust masks at the very least. Now with the contamination, there's no PPE, there's nothing. They're about knee deep in this mud. Yeah, and it's not going to end up very well for these people But it's also a population that nobody around here is gonna go to notice
Starting point is 00:28:11 It's not like Jim Bob down the road passed away Yes, I mean what you're saying and what I just want to be clear on what you're suggesting here is that The government is I don't even know if it's hiring But the government's bringing in illegal immigrants as labor to clean up labor And And even with that they're not giving them the proper
Starting point is 00:28:35 equipment to do the job essentially safely. Oh yeah. And so you're saying people around here aren't going to notice the population missing because they're not from here. And the people around here looking at those people working
Starting point is 00:28:50 don't recognize me. It's not like they're from here. Nobody recognizes them. Yeah. And they're not speaking in English. And so you're suggesting that all, like not all. But there's a hand of people who have come across the border that has been scooped up for cleanup labor because we're out of money essentially. Either we're out of money or because they know it's heavily
Starting point is 00:29:14 contaminated and the word's going to get out. If the word gets out, then that, you know, it makes it seem like a whole lot worse, which is all part of a greater conspiracy. Not a conspiracy theory, just a conspiracy. Like they've been trying to, the mining, companies have been trying to acquire these mountains for the past 20 years. And a lot of these people in these mountains, like, even though they're eating a can of soup every day, they're not going to give up their family land for any amount of money. Like my parents' neighbor, that's a nine-generation farm right there. I mean, his dad won that, and I think it was like the revolution, fighting in the Revolutionary War. It was like, whatever he could ride around in a single day was his
Starting point is 00:29:58 land to keep. And that's the, like, you can copy and paste that story throughout the, mountains, whether it's this revolutionary war, the civil war, whatever. That's where a lot of these, a lot of the names for these hollers and stuff came up was from a single family. I almost gave my parents address out on accident. Because the last name and all that stuff. But so, I can just hear your dad saying, son, that's the last time you go on the thorough Tony. Yeah. So the, yeah, they've been trying, the mining companies have been trying to acquire this land for the past 20 years. Now, two, may do. offense have happened in recent years. We pulled out of Afghanistan, which was a source of lithium
Starting point is 00:30:38 and coal, lithium cobal and courts, and then also the BRICS nations. The BRICS nations have control of all of the countries in the Middle East and in Africa that supply those major things for us as well. Now, another thing that has changed in the United States is this big push for electric vehicles. Those require lithium batteries. Now we no longer have a source of lithium from outside from like cheap labor or just slave labor or whatever. Now we have to start producing it ourselves. One of the highest deposits of lithium and coal bolt in the United States is in those mountains, as well as the highest quality largest chunks of quartz over in spruce pine.
Starting point is 00:31:21 So about a year ago, four lithium battery plants were approved just across the border in South Carolina, which made no sense at the time because they're like, okay, where are you going to get the lithium from? Doesn't make any sense. Then this storm happens. And if you don't believe in weather engineering or anything like that, just check out the work of Dane Wigington. If you look at his work and his expose on exactly what happened in North Carolina and you
Starting point is 00:31:49 still don't believe in weather manipulation, then you were just intentionally stupid. Like, you looked at the evidence, you heard the argument, and you're like, nah, that's too uncomfortable. That's how well he lays it out. It's like you can no longer argue with this after seeing the evidence that he provides. And what was his name again? Dane Wigington. Dane Wigington. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Dane Wigington. If you look him up, he'll have an expose on North Carolina specifically on what happened there. So you see that happen. And then all of a sudden, all these lithium deposits are now exposed and you can see them. As you drive down the river, you can see these purple and pinkish veins on the sand by the river. That's lithium. that's lithium. And these mountains are just chock full of it.
Starting point is 00:32:32 So they can't buy it from these people. So they are doing a forcible eviction under the guise of a natural disaster. First of all, we can just all agree that this was not a natural disaster. These people have been building in these mountains with the idea of the 100-year rain event happening. That's why they put their tobacco barns not by the river. They put them up the mountain a little bit. That's why some people build right by the river, but usually that's not people from around the area. But the tobacco barn historically was the most important building in the community as well as the grain mill and stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:05 But the grain mill had to be by the water because they had a water wheel and all that stuff. But the tobacco barn, that's where you ate. I mean, that's where you produced your food. That's where you dried your food. That's where you cured your food. That's where you made sure you had food through the winter. It's where you kept your animals. That's where you kept your hay.
Starting point is 00:33:19 All that type of stuff was in your tobacco barn. So those were kept out of floodplains. A lot of those tobacco barns have been wiped out. like 100 year rain events are very easy thing to figure out. It was like, okay, the town of Marshall, they built their house. In the early 1900s, the city of Marshall was wiped out from a flood. Just not even a 100 year flood. I think it was like a 50 year flood.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And they were thinking like, okay, let's rebuild this city to withstand the 100 year rain events. So that way we don't have to keep rebuilding. So they put it like 10, 11, 12 feet above the 100 year flood level. and it got washed out. Like these, you don't beat records by feet. You beat records by inches, especially when it comes to your 100 year rain events. Like, this is where, this is one of the areas where I'm like a specialist, I should say. Yeah, why don't you tell them why you're a specialist.
Starting point is 00:34:13 So I'm a permaculture consultant. I'm a permaculture designer. And we take, every time we do a design, we take in your 100 year of rain events or your drought events or your whatever events into consideration. because we're trying to build a, like a resilient farm or homestead for you. Not something that's going to get wiped out every 20 years or every 100 years or every 50 years. So we take in these things, we take all these things into consideration. Like your 100 year rain event and your 100 year drought event, they're very set standards. Like if it gets beat, it gets beat by inches or half an inch or something like that.
Starting point is 00:34:50 It does not get beat by 21 feet in some areas. Like that just does not happen. unless you have outside manipulation, which is exactly what we had with Hurricane Helene. So there's a bunch of people that died from the initial flooding event. The official death toll is 218 or something like that. They've used over 10,000 body bags so far. So who even knows what the real death toll is?
Starting point is 00:35:15 That got rid of a large chunk there. Also, the people who do not have the money to rebuild or anything like that, that got rid of a chunk there. almost immediately they introduced vaccination stations in these areas. Are you serious? Yes. So the government can't mobilize food, water, shelter, or anything like that for these people, but they can bring in vaccinations almost immediately for whatever you wanted.
Starting point is 00:35:37 You can get a vaccination for anything that you wanted at these vaccination stations. Well, winter's right around the corner. You got to be careful. Flu season's coming. Get your vaccination right here. Never mind the fact that we're cold and hungry. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:47 That's messed up. So they do that. They bring in these vaccination stations. and they still don't have any labor out there. They don't have any government-based crews that are out there working. Everything is 100% private entity, private donations, stuff like that. So that happens. They bring in the vaccination stations.
Starting point is 00:36:09 That's the next level of killing off the populace. The next level of killing off the populace. Hold on a second. Hold on. Before you go to the next level, you're saying that the vaccines? Oh, yeah, man. we know this. You know this man. Oh, I'll say it. Yeah, I'll say it. Vaccines are a bunch of garbage. Why do we have autism before vaccines? And everybody brings up the polio vaccine is like, oh, see, the polio vaccine did so good.
Starting point is 00:36:37 The polio was already going away. We already had natural immunity by the time they came out with the polio vaccine. It's all a bunch of garbage. I didn't get my, I have a little baby at home. She didn't have one, not one needle stuck in her at all, ever. Yeah. Yeah. Human body is an amazing thing. Also, if you take a vaccine, you're just dedicating a certain percentage of your immune system to only fight one thing forever. Yeah. Like, how many vaccines before you're out of, like, available immune system to adapt? Anyway.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah. Vaccines a bunch of garbage. Just for the people at home right now, if this video just skipped to a certain spot, if you want the uncensored version, it's on Rumble. I don't know if it's on Rumble, to be honest with you. You're probably better off looking at X or something. My bad Jack, there's some editing for you. Continue. The next level, you said, right?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Okay, yep. The vaccination, that's one step of killing off the populace. Or making them senile or just not able to function. Or just random heart attacks. You know, that seems to happen now. So the next level is the amount of contamination that they're dealing with. So the contamination by itself, just being in the dust and just, just being in the river and on the banks and in the houses and stuff is pretty bad by itself.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But remember, the Ohio train derailment, what made that an absolute catastrophe? They set it on fire. That's exactly what they're doing here in these haulers. At the bottom of every single hauler, you can see these massive dumpsters that are just filled with debris that they're just burning in. They're burning everything. They're throwing like literally any debris. I saw a big old backo full of insulation get dumped into the barrel. They're doing that at the bottom of every hauler.
Starting point is 00:38:20 So that way, whenever the wind comes through, it swoops in and it just pushes all up and down. Whoever's left in those haulers, everybody's getting contaminated with this smoke. They're doing the same thing along the river of Irwin, Tennessee right now, right next to that nuclear fuels facility and that PVC manufacturing place. Massive burn piles. There are a couple of things here. You're suggesting one. Hang on a second. So one, I want to say, if they're doing that, these are the same people that are.
Starting point is 00:38:48 are trying to tell you what is good and what isn't good for the environment. Just that alone is a big red flag, a big red flag. If they're taking all this debris that has the contamination, it's a no-brainer, really, if you just think about it a little bit, all this stuff is contaminated, and you're burning it into the environment and the atmosphere. That doesn't sound like that great of an idea. There's containment sites.
Starting point is 00:39:13 There's different things you can do if you're serious about it. Now, what you're saying suggesting is that they are intentionally burning to infect people with sickness? That is, that's my opinion. I mean, like, what the heck else could it be, man? Like, there are almost every other option of disposal is better than what they're doing. Like, here's an option as well. just leave it. Like, just leave it there for now because it's, A, here's another thing. It's not in the way of anything. Like all of the debris that they're burning now to this point, it's not in the way of anything.
Starting point is 00:39:55 It's just down trees like that are completely on the ground that are just out of the way or it's trash up against the river. Like there's people who no longer have homes, but we're worried about cleaning up the side of the river right now. Like the priorities are messed up. Like it just, even like it just doesn't make any sense. Like the even the location of the bins like the burn barrels and stuff like the big old trash bins. That seems intentional. It's like everybody who's ever lived in one of these haulers knows that the wind comes up from the bottom of the holler every single time. Why would you put your burn barrels or your burn pits right at the bottom of the holler?
Starting point is 00:40:36 It's the same thing that they did in Afghanistan and Iraq. There's a lot of service members, and there's somebody listening right now, service members that are dealing with like lifelong illnesses because of the burn pits that they had in Iraq. Bobby Spaggs, yeah, he was the one that I remember he told me about that a couple years ago. And like I saw these burn pits and it just immediately clicked in my mind. It was like, oh, they're doing the same thing that they did in Iraq, where they're just burning trash. They're burning toxic chemicals. They're burning everything.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And they're just contaminating the rest of the rest of the, rest of the. the community with this stuff. It's exactly what's happening. Also, like, okay, so there's that. And then just the final push to get everybody out, well, there's, before that, four to six months before power comes on, four to six weeks before water comes back, and the water that they're pumping from is contaminated. Like, the water that they're bringing in is all contaminated, unless it's like bottled
Starting point is 00:41:32 water or filtered water or something like that. four to six months before power comes on. Not that they couldn't muster more forces because like, okay, the railroad department or whatever, somehow they got almost 4,000 workers to come and rebuild this railroad that goes in and out of spruce pine that produces a spruce pine is where they mine the courts. That railroad is almost back up and running now because they've marshaled in almost 4,000 workers to get that rebuilt. They can't do that same thing for the communities out here. they can't do that. It's not like they don't have the labor or the ability.
Starting point is 00:42:07 It's just the flat out not doing it. I was told by the Forest Service officer, you said four to six months. He's saying up to a year in some of these areas. For sure. Yeah. They're not going to be. And so we're talking about people that have to go through the wintertime.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Yeah. And it's cold. Yeah, it's really cold. I know people say, oh, the south is warm, not in the mountains. Not at altitude. No, like when I'm driving during the wintertime, it could be, you know, let's just say it's a 50-degree day here, and I'm looking at the mountains going home, and they're topped with snow.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Yeah. There's snow up there. Yeah. And so the people up there, it's a different world up there. Yeah. I mean, in each individual holler, it's different as well. Like, there's so many microclimates throughout the mountains. Like my parents live in Mars Hill.
Starting point is 00:43:06 If you're going to the town of Mars Hill, and you'll notice, you'll notice people off like 19 that are coming down from Burnsville. Burnsville is just the town over, and it's a little bit higher in altitude. That's the only difference. But you'll see snow-packed cars coming down from Burnsville. Meanwhile, in Mars Hill, it's like sunny out. And you're like, I don't know where they got the snow from. But yeah, there's so many different microclient. There's a ski resort over there, Wolf Floral.
Starting point is 00:43:31 There's a ski resort. part of it is manufactured snow, but part of it, they also picked that location because that's a microclimate that historically gets a lot of snow. And that's what we're going in. In fact, this trip going out, right,
Starting point is 00:43:43 what I'm doing now is I have a greenhouse in the back of my truck. It's disassembled. Me and a buddy, Michael, that we're going to go up there, assemble the greenhouse in this one community. That's completely devastated. And so that way they can get
Starting point is 00:43:59 their firewood drying out in time to actually. use it this year. Otherwise, if you just cut chop, like chop up some firewood and let it sit outside, it's going to be like eight to, eight to 12 months before it's actually dried and ready to go. In a greenhouse, we can get it done in a month. Really? Yeah. It's a lot faster. Wow. So you can really turn it over fast then. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. They could, it won't be like perfect moisture, but it won't be building up a bunch of creosote and it'll actually catch fire and stuff like that. So yeah, that's the, that's the goal is to get these people, um, keep them warm.
Starting point is 00:44:32 warm through the winter. Yeah. So, and then there's, yeah, the next stage of attack is that, so whoever's left, they're going to come through. They've already condemned the houses, but they're just going to knock down the houses. So they're going to bring these people to a point where they wouldn't accept the money for their land beforehand, but now that they have to, because they spent all their time and money and resources on rebuilding what house they had left, and then it gets knocked down,
Starting point is 00:44:55 and then they have to accept just bottom dollar, because now what they're selling off is basically a super fun site. And what they're going to do is say, oh, this whole area is contaminated. It's a super fun site. We're going to close it down and just let it do its thing. And then they're going to come up with this miracle substance that cleans up the toxins. The miracle substance that they're probably going to use is called EM1, which is a, it's a very specific, like Japan used it to help clean up after Fukushima on their islands. Whether or not it works well, I don't really know. I haven't done any soil tests with it or anything. But one thing that I do know that does, so whoever's left gets kicked out and then they have
Starting point is 00:45:37 full access to the area and stuff like that. Now, I'm saying all this about the contamination, but I do want to tell people that there is actually a solution for this contamination. So if you look at Chernobyl, there was one farm outside of Chernobyl, not far from Chernobyl at all, where the family did not leave. and they suffered no radiation sickness or contamination or anything like that. You can test their farm and it's squared away. You test immediately outside their farm.
Starting point is 00:46:08 It's got radiation. And the only difference between their farm and everybody else was that they were composting like crazy. So, cool thing about compost. It's like the father built the earth knowing that we were going to screw it up somehow. Imagine that. Yeah. So the cool thing about compost is that these organisms, They take carbon and they take toxins and they lock up the toxins in medium and long chain carbonic acids.
Starting point is 00:46:33 So the toxin is still there. It's just in prison and can't do anything about it. Like it can't cause any negative side effects. It can't cause any like damage or anything like that. It's just locked up in this medium or long chain carbonic acid. If we can do that on scale, we can fix. If we can introduce the organisms, we can fix the contamination. Like another thing that's in the back of my truck is a bunch of biochar.
Starting point is 00:46:57 The cool thing about biochar is not necessarily that it provides minerals to the surrounding areas, but the microbes can use the biochar structure. If you look at it under a microscope, the dust, you'll see basically a carbon structure with a bunch of holes in it. And those provide homes for the microbes. Also, biochar can hold up to seven times its weight in water. So you inoculate the biochar with the organisms and then you spread out the biochar along the banks, along the contaminated areas. And then immediately after that, you seed something.
Starting point is 00:47:29 So we're going into winter. Clover would be a good thing to seed. The clover is going to make sugar from the sunlight. It's going to push it down into the soil, feed the organisms. And in the process of collecting material or nutrients for that plant, it's also going to lock up toxins. So before that, the biotard gives the bacteria a home. After the plants germinate and start providing a ground cover, then the microbes can start expanding and building and just multiplying and getting things squared away. So it's not a permanent
Starting point is 00:48:00 damage despite what the government is going to tell you as far as like the contamination and the condemning of houses. It's not a permanent damage. It's not something where we need to wait 20 years. We just all need to be composting like crazy like right now. So part of the funding from my give send go, it's still going to fund people directly. Like I've made made friends with some people that we're sending money to because I know they're good stewards and they're going to help whoever needs help correctly. Some of it is going to very specific families that I met that are just, they were barely making it before this disaster happened. And then also some of this money is going to go into the making of compost, getting equipment, maybe hiring labor if needed.
Starting point is 00:48:47 But like, shoot, almost 20,000 of it, we're going to have to like, I think 10,000, of it is squared away right now, but $20,000 is going to be needed just to get the soil tested for exactly what contaminants we, to get a baseline of what contaminates we're starting with, and then we're going to have to get it tested again afterwards to show that, hey, these composting methods squared it away. So composting is going to be key in doing it on a very large scale. We've never done it on a large scale like this before. But yeah, that's the goal right now is to get these people deep.
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Starting point is 00:51:26 the composting in that area? So this is where it gets, this is the point we're at right now is like, all right, how do we service all of Western North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee? And the answer is that we just flat out camped. But what we can do is set up a, very well-known demonstration site. Put it in a very public place, someplace where people can interact with it, they can see it and stuff like that. We show them how to do everything on there.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Show them how to source materials, how to make the compost, how to make compost extracts, how to apply it to the soil, how to make biochar, all that type of stuff. And then they can take that and replicate it in their community.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Like, the benefit of compost is that a little bit goes a very, very long way. Like, especially if you're, you're viewing it as a microbe farm. You're not using the actual substrate as a planting substrate. You're stripping the microbes off the organic matter, suspending it in water, and then you're spraying the water. That's like in the form of compost extract.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Compost tea is whenever you get them suspended in water and then you feed them and then you make them multiply in the water and they create glues. And then you can spray it as like a foliage spray and stuff like that. And it actually stick to the surface of the leaf. The extract, they're just suspended in water. They haven't developed any glues. But so if I take from just a handful of really, really what's called biocomplete compost coined by Dr. Elaine Ingham, and I put it in a 400 micron mesh bag. And I dunk that 400 micron mesh bag in a five gallon bucket of clean water. Do that two or three times. I can then dilute that five gallon bucket of water up to 20 times. So like 100 gallons, I can inoculate 100 gallons. And then depending on your location would determine the application rate, like how slow do we drive with the sprayer, how fast do we drive with the sprayer and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:53:21 So that's kind of where we're at right now is like we can set up an awesome demonstration site, do as much as we can from that demonstration site. And anybody who's wanting to take that and replicate it in their own communities, then we will go help them set that up. But we'll give them the education. We'll teach them how to do it and all that type of stuff. but doing compost on this large of a scale, we're going to need like equipment. Like we can't just do single compost pile. Like if you ever been to a landscape yard
Starting point is 00:53:49 and you see that big old mountain of compost, that's garbage. I've tested it. It's garbage. Like the only way I would take that is if they paid me to take it because I'm going to have to fix it. I'm going to have to put in work to fix it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah, it's, but so what we would need to do is like three foot tall windrows. So rows of compost. If you go above three to five feet tall, then the center of that is going to go anaerobic, and that's the opposite effect that we want in a compost pile. We want everything aerobic. If you view it as like your body, when you go into an anaerobic state, that's when you start developing cancers. If you keep your body aerobic like high orac levels, then it's impossible for you to get cancer.
Starting point is 00:54:31 It's impossible for you to get these diseases as long as you have enough oxygen in your body. We're doing the same thing with the soil and the compost. We're introducing oxygen, and we're not using any practices that create compaction in anaerobic states. So we're not creating compaction. We're not using like fertilizers, like nitrogen-based fertilizers. We're not using herbicides, pesticides, nothing like that. So, yeah, that's just what we're going to try to do in North Carolina. And the compost Turner is going to help, like,
Starting point is 00:55:04 flip the rows of compost so we can start doing it in a larger scale. Chipper shredder is probably going to be beneficial as well so we can start getting more compost materials and stuff. And then probably a dump trailer at some point or even like an ag
Starting point is 00:55:20 sprayer. But yeah, the compost Turner for sure is something that we're going to have to buy and that alone is like $50,000. How big is it? It's pretty doggone big like from that computer probably to that wall. But it's like a think of like a flat arch.
Starting point is 00:55:36 It's not arched or anything, but it's like a rectangle. And the rectangle goes through, like you drive down the windrow, it suspends over it, and then it just flips the windrow. So the outside goes to the middle. The middle goes to the outside. So that way everything is going through a thermophilic process. Once your compost material goes through a thermophilic process, it kills any of the pathogen bacteria as well as killing any weed seeds.
Starting point is 00:56:01 The bad guys in the soil can't stand high. temperatures, but the good guys can withstand high temperatures up to 170 degrees. And we get these compost piles up to like 150, 160 degrees all the time. So what's the real, like, how realistic is this as far as, you know, you said about setting up the compost like center, I think is what you called it, in a very public place. I'm not familiar with the mountains. Like you are, it just, you haven't mentioned on the show, but just so people understand like your parents live in Mars Hill. You're very familiar with the mountains. That's why you, decided to go there because you knew you could get around and help people.
Starting point is 00:56:38 With the populations, I mean, like, are you hoping that you set up a very public location and you're showing the people in that immediate area and word spreads, like word of mouth, that people start coming in and start learning so that they can cure their soil and therefore they actually have grounds to stand on with the government saying, no, you can't take my land. It's fine. That's basically the methodology here. That's the goal. And not just so they can say to the government like, hey, my land is fine, but so they can also just live in a contamination free area.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah. And we really, it's not like we have to convince 200 or 500 people. We just need a couple. Like, we just need, like, maybe at most 10 people. Like, I know me and my parents can make a ton of compost, like literally tons of compost. I've seen it. But we can't get it everywhere. We just need more hands.
Starting point is 00:57:33 whether it be just like people spraying or people making compost in other locations so that way we don't have to like the access points and stuff like that. You can set up satellite spots. We can set up satellite spots for sure. Yeah. And then not only is this the solution for this area, but we've now established a solution to any other area in the United States. Or Puerto Rico. Or Puerto Rico. Like Puerto Rico is a big thing in the elections, right?
Starting point is 00:58:00 Yeah. But he's like, it's a floating pilot. The thing is, like, literally, and I can say this, I'm a Puerto Rican. It's literally, like, there's tons of trash there. They got a real problem. Do you think that what you guys are talking about could help Puerto Rico with their issue? For sure. Yeah, but I mean, there's still going to figure out something with the trash.
Starting point is 00:58:20 But, like, as far as the contamination from the landfills and stuff like that, absolutely. Like, this now becomes a solution for any other natural or not so natural disasters that happen. contamination, like the Ohio trained arraignment, we could have immediately went out there with piles of compost and just, like, that's an area where, like, if it was a pool of just vinyl chloride, that's a salute, that's an area where I would just take compost and dump it onto that spot and just let the microbes immediately start working. Sounds like something seated. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah. Like, there's a Bill Mullison quote, and it's loosely, he's the one of the creators of permaculture. He's like, even though the problems of the world become increasingly more. complicated, the solutions are surprisingly simple. It's just start growing your own food, keep composting. And yeah, we can solve. There's another Jeff Lawton who's like the son of Bill Mullison, not the actual son, but just the intellectual son of Bill Mullison, saying that all the world's problems can be solved in a garden. So this gives us now a headquarters to fix
Starting point is 00:59:27 contamination in the rest of the United States. And not just the United States, the world, It's just I don't have access to the rest of the world. But this really could be something that it could grow. This is something that, I mean, so, I mean, when I moved down here, you reached out and, you know, you offered a help and grateful for that. But having something like this that you're involved in where it's not you're helping a family, like you're helping a community and that work can spread. and all of a sudden the methodologies that are used to fix that community spreads as well. It's not just, hey, these guys over here are helping. It's like, hey, these guys over here are helped.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And what they did can be replicatable anywhere. And this could turn into something that I kind of hope that it turns into something on a national scale where it's nationally recognized. I mean, how cool would that be if you guys got a phone call from, the government. Only a good call for the government saying we want to start
Starting point is 01:00:35 utilizing these tactics and stuff. We want to learn how to do this and so that we can start implementing it on disaster zones. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? We don't need to dump more chemicals into a chemical-ridden
Starting point is 01:00:47 soil just to quote-unquote fix it. We can do this the right way. Yeah. And not only is it a fix, like not only is it a solution, but it's like, all right, I do maybe two to three applications in early springtime, and then it's a permanent fix.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Just fixed. As long as I don't do anything that creates compaction or anaerobic spots, or kills microbes, it's fixed. Like, I just, at that point, I just set back in, like, the hard part is making the compost, which isn't difficult. It's just, like, that's where the labor is involved at. Like, after I had applied it, it's step back and wait. Just watch.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Yeah, the contamination will get locked up. Like, it's, it's not like I have to. keep going out there in spraying or or if it's like a, it's not like it's a battle where oh, my microbes are losing to the pathogens. I need to go and reinforce them real quick. It's like two to three applications, early spring before the rain comes in.
Starting point is 01:01:42 We're good. It's a permanent fix. And it'll also start taking care of any new contamination that comes its way in the future. Unless it's like a heavy, you know, flood event or something. It'll fix the contamination in the future as well. Like your household,
Starting point is 01:02:00 contamination. Like, oh, I spilled a few gallons of gas in the yard on accident. Or, oh, my neighbor started spraying Roundup. It's like, the earth is built. It was designed to withstand. I believe the earth was designed to withstand anything humans could throw at it. And it's, it does a fantastic job as long as we don't get in the way. Yeah. We can either, nature doesn't work on a clock. Like, we have a clock. It's our lifetime. Nature doesn't care how long it has to, take to win this battle, it will win the battle. Whether it takes one year, five years, 15 years, 100 years, it will win the battle. We can either work on the same side as nature and we can both win or I can fight nature and I will lose 100% of the time every single time. Wow. Wow. So
Starting point is 01:02:51 this stuff that is, that you guys are implementing can be used on a large scale. Is it pot? Like this strategy, I don't know, what's the word of moog for, not strategy, but practice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Could it be something that's used to clean up like these larger radiation? Super fun sites? Yeah, super fun sites like Chernobyl and stuff. Absolutely. Highly fungal dominant compost. And you, and,
Starting point is 01:03:27 and, uh, uh, you're telling me that they don't know. know this? Or that they refused to do it or what? This is where I could give them like the benefit of the doubt on this one. A lot of this information wasn't really like confirmed to be legit until a couple years ago. And a lot of the work was done by Dr. Elaine Ingram over at Soil Food Web School.
Starting point is 01:03:54 She is the one that so traditionally the main thought is that like you need to add nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium to your soil to make your plants grow. And that's kind of it, but you're missing a major factor in that whole thing. And it's the microbes. The microbes are what makes all of that stuff bio available to your plants. Like a lot of it wasn't even able to be discovered until shadowing microscopy came about. Because a lot of the organisms are the same color as water. So if you just look at it under a typical compound microscope, all you're going to see is just clear because it's all water.
Starting point is 01:04:31 As soon as you introduce a shadow, then you can start seeing the organisms actually working and stuff like that. The microbes are the reason behind all of the plant's fertility. The plant feeds, like I was saying earlier, the plant turns sunlight into sugar, and it shoots that sugar down into the soil. The sugar, called an exudate, has a grocery list attached to it. So the bacteria comes over, it eats the sugar, and it also gets this grocery list of what that plant needs in return. that bacteria goes to an inorganic piece of material. It could be rock, sand, silk, clay, anything like that. And it'll start producing acids that will break that down.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And in the process, it's deriving whatever nutrients that that plant needs. All of your nutrients are already in the soil. Anything your plant needs is already in the soil. You just have to have a microbe go get that first. And then that microbe can't make a direct transaction between itself and the plant. It has to get eaten by a predator. So that's where the whole soil food web comes into play. You can't just have the bacteria.
Starting point is 01:05:34 You just can't have the nematodes. You can't just have the fungi or the protozo or anything like that. You need the whole food web. That gets eaten by a predator, gets pooped out the other end, then the plant benefits from what that bacteria went and got. So a lot of that stuff is all fairly new information. Like there were a lot of theories behind it, but as far as it being confirmed, that's pretty doggone recent. So whether or not they know this, I could give them the benefit of the doubt saying, like, no, they might not. They might not know this.
Starting point is 01:06:04 This might be just some like what they think is like purple-breathing, permaculture stuff. And it's not actually legit. But it is 100% legit. Like everybody who follows these practices and actually sticks to them, they have no longer, they no longer have pests on their property. Like the pest pressure as far as like your tomatoes or your fruit trees or anything like that goes. they no longer have disease or bacteria infections. They no longer have fungal infections on their trees. Like, the produce on their farm, instead of having just like 10% being able to sell as like a whole tomato at the market, and then the rest just goes into processed products because they're not pretty tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:06:45 They're now flipping that and now 90% of their tomatoes they can sell fresh at the farmer's market for top dollar as opposed to just putting it into processed foods and stuff. So like these practices work and it's hard to convince people that these practices work until they actually do it and then start noticing the benefits. Then they start noticing like, oh, I don't have squash bugs coming about anymore because the squash bugs literally can't get access to the plant because the plant is covered in a network of fungi and bacteria. Like if I look, if I took a leaf from a plant that I had growing in my garden after I have fixed it with biocomplete compost and I look at the surface of the leaf, I can't actually. see the surface of the leaf. What I see is a network of bacteria and fungi on the surface of that leaf and the pests don't have access to the actual plants anymore. Also, all those microorganisms will outcompete any of the larvae or anything like that. The anaerobic fungi like in a fireblight for some reason can't come up, can't come about, can't reproduce or like show up because it's
Starting point is 01:07:48 already occupied by beneficial fungi. So yeah, these practices for sure. work, it's just convincing people that these practices work. Well, I hope that we can do that because this sounds amazing to me. It really does sound like it sounds like we're holding a key to a better future and that word should be spread. Yeah. Just to kind of not so related topic, but kind of just from my own personal experience with you, when I moved down here, you were telling me all about this stuff and you're like,
Starting point is 01:08:19 do you got to do this, that and the other? I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, man. I had concrete in my backyard. You know, like, literally I did. But my son in December, the first December we were here, I think it was in December. It was around Christmas time. I have it on video.
Starting point is 01:08:40 My wife was setting up Christmas decorations, and he's outside, and he doesn't grasp the concept of hitting the brakes on his bike. And he rolls down the hill on his bike and runs into a tree, he smashes his face off the side of the tree. And it got really bad. Like, I mean, it cut his face open. And a big, big piece of his cheek.
Starting point is 01:09:03 And I told you, and you're like, put comfy on it. And I was like, okay. So we put the comfy on. And I'm talking, this was like on a Monday. And I have pictures of my phone. I'll see if I can, no, I won't. You sent them to me. Yeah, I can't put them online because I,
Starting point is 01:09:21 stop doing that with my kids. But by Friday, you couldn't even tell there was cuts. Like literally in a week, it was gone. Yeah. And I was like, holy crap, this comfort stuff works great. And so like, and I never heard of comfort before. And you're like, oh, man, the only reason why we have it is to do this, that, and the other stuff. Anytime you need something, just let me know. Because we have so many, so much of it. I'm just like, this family. And this is, this is the stock you come from, man, though. Like, like your family gives stuff away. It's just, it's something that I've never, ever experienced before. And I want to say it's a southern thing, but I haven't, I haven't experienced it on a level that you guys do it, even here in the South. You guys, like, you guys gave
Starting point is 01:10:09 me my first 10 chickens. You gave me, you know, a 400 pound pig just because you were, I was doing you a favor, apparently, by taking it off your hands. Like, we didn't have space in the freezer, dude. Like, like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you come out and you help me with electrical work like like you give knowledge away you give resources away that's what you guys do and so um i've never been steered wrong with anything that you have ever said to me and the fact that you're saying this right now makes me i i'm my mind is racing right now because i just i really want people listening right now to understand that this is really a practical thing and they should share this with a lot of
Starting point is 01:10:51 of people so this information gets out. And my hope is that this recording gets put in front of somebody who has a much larger stick than I have and is like, we need to contact this guy and talk with him. Whether it's another podcast, like Joe, oh, I love, I would love for Joe Rogan to have you on his show. That'd be cool. It'd be really cool because he would dig with you for three hours on this because he probably talks the language a little bit better than I can. But, like, this information needs to get out so that there are people in this world who are decision makers within the big G word. And, like, they need to know these things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:33 So that we can fix this kind of stuff on a more efficient, permanent level. So I will say the Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., his was it, Child's Health Alliance group, do you know who that is? it's like a I can't remember the name over the organization but like child's health it's like anti-vaccine type stuff they reached out at one point
Starting point is 01:11:59 and offered to do some of the soil testing for us so that's a benefit I mean that's one person who heard about it and was like hey yeah we can we can help with the soil testing and stuff
Starting point is 01:12:11 see what kind of contamination is going on yeah man dude that like that would be I mean even, okay, so here's another thing that stood out during this whole disaster relief. We're perfectly fine without the government. Like, the community just kind of comes together and figures it out.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And like, this will happen with or without the government. And like, I'm not, I don't know. I guess I haven't really just taken much stock into thinking like, oh, that'd be cool if we could get somebody in the government in line. Because anytime, like my experience so far is anytime we like involve any kind of bureaucracy, it just, A, slows things down or B, makes things way more complicated. And instead of just being able to see a problem and then act on that problem, I got to see a problem, report a problem, wait for them to report a problem, them come up with a plan,
Starting point is 01:13:04 then bring it back to me just for me to say, hey, that plan doesn't work. We need to do something else. Because you didn't sign the paperwork. Yeah, exactly. Like, I didn't dot an eye correctly or something. It's like, so there's part of a hesitancy, hesitancy of like the government getting involved is because they like we just don't need them at this point. Like you don't need them
Starting point is 01:13:26 biggest arguments was like well what are we doing a disaster? Exactly what we just did. That's true. And if you don't need them but you do need a way to broadcast it
Starting point is 01:13:37 on a mass level. Yeah. And if they were behind it that would happen. Yeah. But if that's not an option whether they don't get behind it or it just doesn't reach their level of information.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Like, there needs to be a way to broadcast this on a mass level so that it's just common knowledge. And if that happens, then they will get wind of it. The best thing the government could do for me right now is bring me wood chips, bring me leaf litter, bring me manure, bring me grass clippings. That's the best thing they could do for me right now. Or provide a compost turner. They're bright though. Rats are custodians that I care about looking dystopian.
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