The Confessionals - 720: The Battle For Ufology

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

In episode 720: The Battle For Ufology, filmmaker Darcy Weir takes us behind the scenes of his experience at the historic U.S. congressional UFO hearing. As one of the last attendees allowed inside, Darcy witnessed discussions about hybrid programs, reverse-engineering alien technology, and underwater bases tied to UFO lore. Darcy also dives into experiencers suffering radiation sickness from UAP encounters, raising questions about the phenomenon’s impact on human health. He then shares personal anecdotes, brushes with UFO legends, and his thoughts on the slow path of disclosure. This episode unravels the mysteries surrounding UAPs and their intersection with science, government, and the unknown.Darcy Weir:Amazon | Tubi | InstagramHurricane Helene Relief Efforts List: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/helene-reliefSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsUNCOMMON GOODS: uncommongoods.com/tonyGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICTony Merkel - Secrets in the Hearing

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weir on the show. Darcy, long time, man. Hey, man. How's it going on? I'm glad you here. I'm glad you here, man. So you and I, we were just talking and I figured we'd hit record before we get too far into the conversation. We're going to start off today with the congressional hearings. And, you I've heard mixed reviews on the hearing itself. So I'd be interested to hear your thoughts because you actually flew into DC to be part of the hearings and attend them. But, you know, when I say hearing mixed reviews, I mean, I didn't hear anything. I read about on X. But UFO Twitter or UFOX.

But, you know, people have been, you know, like in love with the document, the Immaculate Conception to... Constellation. Oh, Constellation. I did it again. I just told you I wouldn't do it. I literally said to you, oh, that's funny. We're leaving that in. But the immaculate constellation, I'm reading it off my notes.

Yeah. But there's been people with that document that have, I've been seeing just in love with it. Just like, this is amazing. So I'd love to hear, you know, your perspective on how the hearings went. Maybe some new information that you feel has been uncovered, your thoughts in the document, and everything in between. Sure. Yeah. So the hearings were really cool. I'm not, I was there. I actually got to walk into the room. I was one of the last three people in line that were accepted. Wow. A Canadian. So, you know, kind of random that I actually flew in from another country and got accepted to this congressional hearing. I documented it, so I recorded the whole way.

I actually have a video where I'm at the very front of the line and I'm asking the lady that's kind of like stopping the line and then saying, go, are we going to make it? Are we going to make it? And yeah, so we made it. Me and the last two people, another buddy that I traveled with who runs a UFO-UAP-related podcast called UAP. studies, Jason, he did not make it in. He had to go into the spillover room. I feel bad about that. There was a lot of people in line and many people showed up late and just butt in the front. So it was a little bit. It was like Black Friday on steroids, you know, but UFO related. It was cool.

I mean, you saw the who's who of the UFO people, James Fox rocking up late, Jeremy Corbell, Jesse Michaels from American Alchemy, just a whole bunch of, you know, you had a lot of representation there. I ended up hanging out for a long time in line with

famous abductee Randall Nickerson who also produced that cool documentary out of Africa the Ariel Ariel School phenomenon or abduction case or no, not abduction

experiencer case. All these kids broad daylight saw UFO land and then saw beings come out, right? Are you saying that he was he was one of the kids there Or was he the one who did the documentary? He did the documentary. Okay.

Yeah. I think he put like his heart into that doc because he's had abduction experiences and he knows what it's like to be stigmatized and all that stuff. So he just flew over to Africa and he was like literally living under the African sky looking up at the stars for two years. I feel like he did a great job with that in the sense that like if I'm thinking of the same documentary because I know there's been other people that covered it. He even had somebody that was a kid that experienced this but came and said, you know, that I don't know, like I forget what his his explanation

was, but he was denying that it ever happened kind of thing. So like I feel like he did a good job balancing, you know, the experiencer and them saying, yes, this happened. And then even somebody who was there said, no, it actually didn't happen. Yeah, he was one of the kids. and the rest of the kids, plus a teacher in the dock, admitted that she at first thought the kids were making everything up. And then she had her own abduction experience, like, sometime later. So this phenomenon was kind of happening in that area of Zimbabwe for a while. And multiple people, multiple lives were affected. But this guy was, yeah, he was an interesting character.

I think a lot of people made like meme videos out of him like mic dropping and saying it never happened type thing. But yeah, it was a cool atmosphere. Everybody was kind of like high spirits and really excited. I remember so the night before the hearings I crashed with my friend Stephen Bassett who lives. He's got a place in Washington, D.C. And we caught up and we were talking. about what the possibilities were for the next day. We knew the hearings were going to open at 1130 a.m.

But we didn't know how long they would go for. You know, his best estimate is that it would go for an hour, right? Because lunch, a lot of these congressmen and congresswomen want to like break for lunch. So we thought it was just going to go from 1130 to 1230. And it went to about like one something, like just over one. one or just before one. So it was a good duration and they were just firing off a wild amount of questions, you know, things that were being recorded into congressional hearing record,

into the congressional record, sorry. So people out there like kind of take a step back from UFO Twitter and stuff. I know a lot of people were saying, ah, it was like a nothing bird. or whatever, you hear that term thrown around so much. But it's like, you do realize that this is the first time in history that we've had congressmen and congresswoman talking openly about hybrid programs, abduction, reverse engineering programs, crashed craft retrieval programs, like all of this wild. stuff.

Bases in the ocean, potential hotspots for U.S.O activity or possible UFOs slash U.S.O. Bases, you know, off the coast of California and stuff like that, right?

They were just all over the place with stuff that's part of UFO lore, but now is being discussed by legislation, like powers that be in the legislative process in the United States of America, you know, lawmakers. So this is powerful, you know, and I don't think this is something you want to throw under

the bus. And if you think about it, if they're saying all that stuff now, it's the second hearing ever to happen regarding UAP or UFOs, what are they going to talk about next congressional hearing and there's a lot of rumors that there's going to be more. They touched on radiation effects from UAP on, you know, experiencers, people that have been exposed to that radiation from seeing the UFO up close and personal. So that means potentially there's going to be a hearing in the future,

where we have experiencers that were affected, their health was affected. And they'll be able to speak from that perspective, what they went through. And, you know, some people are kind of rallying and saying that, hey, like they're really pushing the threat narrative.

To me, it's like maybe that is part of it. But when you get down to brass tack, really what they're doing is proving that it's a real phenomenon. If people are getting medical issues and adverse health effects from being exposed to UAP or UFO radiation, that means that phenomenon or that thing is real, you know? And I think that's what they're really just trying to slowly go down the path of this disclosure that's happening. and it is probably going to be a slow process.

Everybody talks about catastrophic disclosure. We need that right now. And that's like almost the anarchist inside of people speaking that want this truth out so badly. But it's not necessarily a good way to get the truth because it could crumble absolute trust in our government institutions. which are at an all-time low. And it could, you know, just not be something the masses could stomach right off the bat. I know you could because you're open to all this sort of like this type of stuff, but not everybody. Yeah.

Yeah. And I feel like we could, we can lose touch of that a little bit at times because like you and myself and listeners of shows like this, we do get, we kind of get engulfed in the topics that we cover and it becomes so normalized to us that I think maybe even we lose touch with reality when it comes to what the everyday world thinks and views of this stuff. I still, when I still kind of taken back when people say, you know, they find out what I do. And they're like, do you believe in UFOs? I'm like, what? Like, that's like, why are you asking me that? Like, it's literally, the name, unidentified flying object, anything in the world that is flying in the skies that we can't

identify would be a UFO. Like even just that simple basic understanding, not to mention, you know, the idea of where do they possibly come from. And that's the stuff that I think that really trips people up. You mentioned about the radiation. And the thought that comes to my mind is the legal ramifications of such things. And at the top of your head, you would say, like, well, who's there to sue, you know, but at the same time, I think experiencers that if it's proven that they had radiation poisoning or were harmed by these things, and there was, and there wasn't some kind of off-the-books government organizational effort to keep this quiet and study at the same time withholding that information from people and then them getting physically hurt,

do you think that there could be room for, you know, legal ramifications of lawsuits, against the government. Yeah, I think that is part of like the catastrophic disclosure outcome is if, you know, this really gets out of hand and stuff gets leaked and proves that people's lives have been threatened and at risk due to the secrecy, you know, there could be people that turn around and sue the government in like class actions or something like that. I'll give you an example of somebody that I know of that I've spoken to who is an experiencer who got sick from exposure to this radiation.

Have you ever heard of the Rendelsham incident that happened? Yeah, right off the edge of the Bent Waters base in the UK. Rendelsham Forest, you know, it's a nice little forest. you can go on hikes and stuff there, but back in the 1980s, two main witness, well, there was actually three.

Charles Halt, whose was like a commander or a colonel or something at the time. He held a higher rank. This happened over a course of days. There was like a really interesting tape recorder recording. You can listen to him where he had his sighting. And, you know, there was this UFO buzzing the base, shooting like lasers at the ground in front of their feet and into these like bunker areas of the base. People assume now that actually they were secretly storing some possibly nuclear weapons there or something.

And that's why the UFOs were showing up there. but the two other witnesses that were experiencers were Jim Peniston and John Burroughs. John Burroughs I've spoken to and he literally walked into the forest and there was this like kind of glowing orb is what he recalls experiencing, which was different from what Jim Peniston experienced. when he walked into this glowing orb, he kind of heard this non-local consciousness and he has a whole story I'm not going to go into, but after that event,

he went back to the base. There were two men in black suits waiting for him. They immediately took him off to a room and got a debriefing of what happened. And he was examined. over those next few days at the base. He had another experience, I think, the second night. Now, fast forward years and years later,

we're talking like in the past decade, he had health problems. He had this heart valve issue. And he went to go make a claim for that whole heart valve issue with his benefits. you know, as an ex-air force personnel, because you get to keep those benefits, right? Those benefits were rejected because his record working for the Air Force was wiped. Somebody did not want him to remain valid or credible with the Bent Waters, you know, the Randolsham incident.

So they wiped his background, worked with the VA. And this became alarming that somebody had done that. And another person you could say that this happened to bet people contest, but I think is very true. Lou Elizondo, he left the Pentagon. They wiped his work records, said there was no A-tip. They can do that type of thing, right?

they want to control the truth of this subject. So John Burroughs was actually interacting with To the Stars Academy at that time. This had Kit Green and a bunch of interesting scientists that were all related to this phenomenon over the decades. Hell put off, you know. And he ended up complaining about this issue saying, I need to get this medical treatment for my heart and they're not giving me my benefits. So John McCain, former senator, Republican senator, was informed of this issue. And he's a veteran, right?

He was in the Vietnam War. He was very upset by this because he saw that John Burroughs actually had payment records and like proof, you know, forms that he had worked at the Bentwater's base. And he ended up John McCain running this up the flagpole and making a major complaint saying, like, how could you wipe this guy's records? He worked for the Air Force. You can't do this. You need to reinstate his records so he can make this claim. And apparently, what it came down to, he signed a piece of paper that said, in the future, you may.

may be called in as an experiencer to this UAP phenomenon that got affected by radiation. If you do that, you sign this form that you will do that in the future, we will reinstate your records. You will get your medical benefit covered. So I think he might be one of these people that shows up at a future congressional hearing regarding UAPs. Yeah. I had talked to him a while ago, and I totally forgot that aspect of his story.

Man, like, so he signed that paperwork, but if he is called into testify before Congress, there's nothing he can do about that. So, like, he can't, like, he can't be held responsible for speaking about certain things when, you know, he's being pulled in. I'm sorry, there's an NDA assigned 10 years ago. I can't talk about that. It's like, no, it's not really valid at this point. Yeah, I mean, he's going to be, he'll have to talk about his experience and how he had a health issue. And the interesting thing, if you listen to Dr. Gary Nolan from Stanford University, he was approached some years ago by the CIA because they wanted him to look into experiencers that were, getting these health effects from UAP exposure to their brains, to their hearts, to their blood,

all kinds of things that they were recording. And so there's a history of this type of stuff happening. And I think they even have it down to a radiation signature that they know of that UAPs that are credible exhibit. it. So, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how things develop over the next few years. Yeah. You know, speaking on this, this radiation topic, there's, the topic of radiation comes up in different categories of the weird, you know. I was just in, yeah, I was, I was just, I was just shooting a documentary last week. And the big reason why we were there is because there's this like cube portal that popped up on thermal. They have it on thermal video. They have two of their team members walking into this portal where they disappear once they cross that threshold. And then both those team members died two months later. Then there's also like the idea of Bigfoot where I was told by a doctor. I still haven't confirmed with her if I can actually publicly, even though people who are in the know probably can. make the connection. I just don't know if she wants to be connected to this or not, but I talked to her on

the phone and she said to me, because I was given a location supposedly where there was a big foot that was buried. And she had told me, when I talked, I reached out to her about something completely different when it comes to this site, but she told me to call her right away. I called her and she's like, you need to have a giger counter when you get there. And if there's any radiation, you need to lead the area right away because some of these burial spots, when people dig them up, are exposed to such high levels of radiation that they die months later. And so, like, it's interesting how radiation seems to pop up with all these different things. And for me, in the simplistic mind that I have, I go to, well, are they connected in some way? And, you know, I wasn't, go ahead. I think if you're

looking at an object that is not emitting some kind of combustion effect from traditional fossil fuel energy, it's got to be running, you know, a UFO or UAP would have to be running off of some kind of exotic nuclear radiation reactor. You know what I mean? And a lot of, there's a lot of evidence of that, that there was a British study actually published regarding radiation signatures and UFOs, I think, in the 90s. This was like a mainstream, I think it was like the British Air Force or something. So, like, this is something that intelligence and militaries of the world are aware of, I do believe. And when it comes to like portals, if people that are seeing a portal, you know, basically something open up out of nowhere and an object or being come out of it, I would want to stay hella far away from that. I would want to stay a far away from a UFO too because there's something to do with that that's going to emit a radiation.

we're not used to. Like, we get really sick from radiation, right? And when you hear about reports of like grays and these sort of non-human intelligence that look alien, maybe the way that those things are designed, you know, don't have sex organs, big heads, big black eyes, kind of spindly bodies, their skin looks like gray and, you know, devoid of melanin or any kind of like color that we see on ours, maybe you're looking at an entity that was specifically designed to withstand radiations that our bodies are not allowed to be exhibiting, you know, or exposed to.

And when people talk about us like a Bigfoot or something coming out of a portal, I mean, that's like a pretty robust looking body. You know, you could tell from witnesses or experiencers that see a big foot or dog man or something like that, these are like massive, muscular, really robust creatures. Maybe they're able to withstand some forces and radiations that we can't. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely something to consider. And I've made a decision that I'm not jumping through a portal anytime soon. You know, like, I mean, I got friends that openly say, I'm going through. I'll tie a rope around them and hold onto it through this end, you know? My buddy Joel, his kids are grown. My kids still need that at home, you know? And so. Yeah, yeah. Don't be going through the portal, bro.

No, no, no, I got a little to tell about it. But yeah, I mean, like that location that we were at, I mean, there was definitely weird things that happened in this very centralized geographical location that has a lot of anomalous things happening. You know, it makes you wonder, is it the geographical location for some of these places that have such high strangeness? Or is there some kind of, I don't know, ancient thing that happened there that is like a mess? magnet for future events. It's just a lot of consideration. I know you look into a lot of different things. I know like, you know, I mean, I don't know how people view you, but I view you as somebody who does a lot more than just UFOs. You have the Bigfoot documentary and you're well versed in other topics as well, even though really UFOs are, you know, you do a lot of that stuff as well.

I'm interested in like all this fringe theory stuff, right? Anything that's like beyond the pale, uh, beyond like sports, politics, celebrity drama and stuff. Like that stuff bores the heck out of me. You know what I mean? Um,

but when it comes to radiation, again, another thing that comes up are like, again, uh, these hotspots, Skimwalker Ranch. That has a radiation signature that they keep recording.

And people are leaving there sick all the time. People have kind of alluded to that maybe that is radiation sickness that these people are being exposed to who are working and living on the ranch. Another ranch that I think is super anomalous that no one talks about that the government of the United States literally quarantined off. You can't walk on this property at all. It's like Area 51 of the ranches out there. It's called the Bradshaw Ranch. There's no TV show being filmed on it like the Blind Frog is now and stuff. The Bradshaw Ranch.

there's even videos of when the Bradshaw's lived there. I think the son was walking around the property and he had this old mini DV handycam and he's panning around in like the forest area and you see this little entity that looks like a gray poking its head out, but it's like translucent. It's like the entity or being almost has this ability to cloak itself. But you see these shapes of these really large eyes, almond-shaped eyes on a huge, like, head and a short, spindly body that's like poking out from behind this bush. That's from the Bradshaw Ranch. And that place got quarantined off in the 90s, I think, or late 80s.

So the Bradshaw Ranch, it's been quarantined off and nobody can go to it now? you can't it's like illegal the government nobody talks about it and no one talks about everybody's talking about skin walker which i'm sure there's something going on there people talk about blind frog but no one talks about bradshaw wow wow wow wow uh okay so the place that i went to last week i had a sign in nda before i was giving the location to it and everything uh because they don't want it they don't want the location getting out and the area being contaminated. But now with that information, there's also that concern as well because I didn't connect it until you brought this up. So last week,

and let me tell you, I don't get sick. I don't get sick. Like, I get like colds where I have respiratory infections and stuff. But when it comes to like vomiting, that does that, that's not, I don't get sick like that. I think the last time I vomited was probably, you know, I don't know, years ago. Before I moved to tennis. You got an iron stomach? Yeah, man. Like, I can eat anything. Like, I'm good. And I'm out there. And it was the third night, I think. And let me preface this with, this location has radiation readings. They set baselines when they go out to the location, and then they operate from that baseline to see the spikes. And there's definite spikes. There were spikes when I was there. And, you know, part of me is like,

I still have this youthful attitude about me where it's like, oh, I can't die. Nothing can get to me, you know? So like when somebody was saying, hey, there's radiation here. I'm like, who cares? I don't feel anything, you know? And it was like three nights in. I'm laying there. And all of a sudden, like my stomach starts feeling really sick.

Like I'm like, I think I might hurl. And then it moves into my intestines and my stomach starts turning like in my bowels. And I'm like, I think I need to run to that elevated toilet. it real fast. And, but once I handled business, I didn't feel like I needed to throw up anymore. I didn't throw up. And I didn't feel like I needed to throw up anymore. And the rest of the time, I kind of felt okay.

My intestines were turning a little bit here and there. But my first night home, I'm laying in bed and I'm like breathing heavy. I'm like, I think we're going to throw up. And I did. I threw up harder than I have thrown up in years. I wonder if it had something to do with the radiation that's there. I didn't even think about that until now. I don't know. You could always get tested.

They can take a blood test from you, blood sample, and they can run that through to see if you got radiation poisoning. I might have to do that. I mean, yeah, I might have to do that soon. Just last week. Oh, wow. Yeah. Fresh. I'm feeling great now. But. Well, if you did it, if you did it, you might have some kind of conclusive evidence if you found out that you did have radiation poisoning. Yeah. I might have to hit, I don't have a family doctor. I might have to hit up like, uh, you could do a walk-in clinic. You just, uh, take my blood, please. You'd have to explain to the doctor that you got really sick visiting a site and you just want to get a routine scan, but check off radiation, uh, testing for your blood.

Like, where were you? I'm like, it's a secret. I signed an NDA. Shut up and take my blood. Um, well, listen, uh, unless you have something else you wanted to say about the hearings, I think the hearings sounded like they were a hoot. And I saw a video of it. I saw it was like, you know, it's like a who's who is there. I was like,

dang, dude, like everybody's there. Lou, I would love to get Lou on the show one day. I don't know if that's even possible. I was talking to his, his part.

I think you probably know who his partner in crime is on this whole thing, right? I don't know if he's public or not, though. He's coming out with a memoir soon. the initials is J.S. Jason Sance? No.

No. Let the record show that I know something that Darcy doesn't. Well, I don't know, man. I can reach out to Lou for you and see if. Oh, you know, Lou? Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, I can, I can, if he wants to come on the show for sure.

I can tell him. I'll bring him in studio. I'll bring him to studio. No, the other guy, I'll tell you how fair then because I, because when I, when I, I met him at a conference and he did speak at this conference, but he made everybody, like, he was like, no filming, no, none of that was like, it was like,

what I'm about to say here needs to stay inside this room. And so I was like, oh, shoot, and all that. But I think he's probably, I just don't know enough. I don't want to do something I'll regret. I'll just tell you afterwards. That's cool. Leave me in suspense. Man, I'll figure it out.

The episode's not over yet. Sorry. That's cool. So we were talking about like, go ahead. I'm sorry. No, no. No, that's cool. I mean, he's got so many good people around him.

I thought there's like Sean Cahill. That's somebody who's been closely associated with him for a while. I don't know. I mean, not, not sure who JS is. Yeah. It's all my older brothers then. Basically, like, between the two of them, they decided that Lou would be the one that would go public and be the public figure and he would stay within the government and operate from behind the scenes. But, yeah, that's why that's why I just don't know.

I'll tell you. I'll say, I'm sure you've heard of them. I just don't, I'm just being ultra careful because I don't want to shoot myself in the foot for a future interview one day possibly. Chase Stratt. Yes, okay, perfect. It's public. And I didn't do it. Okay, got you.

Sorry. I don't know why I didn't think that at first. Yeah. Yeah. He's still working for the government. I think he's, yeah, his memoir will be interesting to see how it compares to Woo's and see if he got more stuff through Dobser review to be published, right? Yeah. What else is the Pentagon going to allow us to know? Or maybe it'll just be the same stuff. I don't know. I messaged him last week and I asked him, if he'd be there. And he said, I will not be there, but I hope it goes well. And if funny, funny thing is, yeah, that might be too personal. Never mind.

We're going to move on. So you mentioned about, we were talking about the radiation and stuff like that. And that kind of veered us off of the hearings. But instead of going backwards, let's just keep moving forward. Yeah. I brought the idea of Bigfoot and the radiation connection. And we have the UFO connection with radiation. there is somebody in this world that years ago I heard talking and suggested that one of the

aliens that he had seen looked a lot like Chubaca, which in my mind was like, oh, that sounds like Bigfoot. His name is Emery Smith. And you have a documentary called Dark Alliance. And it's actually a docu-series. It's two episodes, right? And you kind of really dive into this stuff. And I'm not sure if you cover Emory on it, but I know Corey Good is on it.

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like simply safe. Yeah. All right. So Emory is covered very, very, briefly by Jordan Sather. Okay. In the second episode of the first season, I might actually go on and do a couple more seasons because people are responding pretty well to it. Like people really liked what we did so far. But yeah, I was, look, I've been part of the UFO community since around 2009. That's really when I started interacting, reaching out to people, interviewing people to make my original documentary

The Underground with Phil Schneider and the underground base, you know, deep underground military base theory. And 2012, I published that for free on YouTube. A couple few years later, I started hearing about this guy, good through David Wilcoq and that was all being announced kind of like through Gaia which is this new new age spiritual slash conspiracy UFO network and I was enthralled with the story at first when I first started looking to UFOs I was massively naive like I believed everything that was put out there right and I just like

Like you am now skeptical at first of the stories. I want to hear a lot more. I want to see a bit more evidence before I start to believe or, you know, consider something to be real. But back then I heard, you know, up until 2015, which is really when Corey first started hitting the scene, I had heard about grays. I had heard about, you know, possible like Nordic or human-looking aliens. I had heard about hybrids and, you know, all these concepts were well baked into the mythology and lore of euphology for decades. But this guy is coming out and he's saying there's these blue aliens that are bird people

and they will, you know, come down in these spheres. They're part of the sphere alliance and yada, yada, yada. And I was just like, what the heck is this all about, right? Like, this does not fit at all with what's being recorded by all kinds of people around the world. You know, whether you're in Zimbabwe with Ariel or you're in Australia with Westall or, you know, the UK or wherever, like we've had these UFO encounters, they often look or get described in the same sort of way. Sometimes they get described as robots that walk out of the craft, like robotic entities, right, like machines. but this was the first time I heard about the blue bird people.

And so I kind of kept it filed away in my head that I'd love to sort of talk with these guys one day. And honestly, maybe one day I will talk to Corey Good and David Wilcock on camera. In making this documentary, the first two episodes, I went out to Boulder, Colorado and I drove out to David Wilcox's home. I knocked on his door, shook his hand, and he kicked me off his property. So like I tried, you know, and then I got all these crazy texts. At what point did you get kicked off the property? Did you tell him what you were about to do or did he already know who you were and what you were about? Well, there's all these like lawsuits that are happening right now with David Wilcock.

The aerospace company that he's been promising all the people that invested millions and millions and millions of dollars in, he would produce like these hover anti-gravity cars with and it never happened. So there's like that lawsuit. There's a couple other personal lawsuits he's got going on. And so I started getting these angry texts after because I texted him and I apologized for like just knocking on his door. But I was in the area and I'm making this documentary, blah, blah, blah. And he was like, you'll be hearing from my lawyer and all this stuff.

And I'm like, hey, man, like, you don't have to say that. I'm not like, you know, whatever. And I'm just a filmmaker and I'm documenting a story. And he was like, oh, I thought you were coming to serve me papers. I thought you were involved with this lawsuit. And I thought you were about to like try and give me a paper or a letter or something. I'm like, no. Talk about paranoid.

Yeah. So that was my interaction with him. So he didn't want to be involved in this story, even though we told it with public record information, you know, like stuff that is proven to be true. and Corey too or tried to reach out to. But, you know, these people, they live in their own sphere of influence. It's like an echo chamber. And they live in a reality which is truth by proclamation. So you can't get through to them unless you're on their level inside of their own bubble.

of truth and anything else is just no obsolete void, you know? So unfortunately, I couldn't get them to talk outside of that. And yeah, Emery comes up in the second episode because he was very close to them at one point. He was coming up with them via the guy in TV network, presenting on that show called Cosmic Disclosure, who Jay Weidner is, you know, one of the people you saw in the documentary. He's the former head of production at Gaia TV. He basically took them from this small startup company

that was selling like yoga mats and stuff like that, which you could still buy. I have a Gaia yoga mat. here. And, uh, like, you know, they do good products and stuff. But they branched off and started doing entertainment, this whole like new age spirituality stuff. And it just opened the floodgates to a lot of this esoteric thinking. And, um, you know, the entertainers that are David Wilcoq and Corey Good got made on that network. And so we kind of beat around the bush a little bit.

When it comes to this whole series, what is the gist behind it? Like, what are you documenting? What is, because you're exposing certain things. And it's cool to hear that you're using it through, you're doing it through documented evidence that is out there. because it doesn't it doesn't leave the the audience to say, well, that's your opinion. Well, it's not really your opinion. It's what's been documented. So what is the gist of what you're doing with this docu-series?

Well, I'm talking firstly to people that were part of constructing this whole narrative, right? So we talked about Jay Weidner. I think you should have him on. He's a fascinating person. very out there in terms of his thinking in the world and brilliant guy. But, you know, he quite literally says, I shaped the Corey Good character. I told him to be humble and quiet, not boisterous and animated, because people won't believe you as much.

So if you look at the way Corey used to present back in those days, it was very quiet and almost monotone. You know, that was like under direction of the head of production at Gaia, Jay Widener. And David Wilcock, he's like, he's like Ashton Forbes. He can talk about all these like mathematical and, uh, you know, fringe science concepts and explain them on a lower level so most of us can comprehend them. and that's really where his strength was and he would dip into

metaphysical realities and like UFOs and stuff like that. And so eventually when Corey came along, you know, it became all UFOs and conspiracy and dark cabal like the government's controlling, you know,

the people in his, in a sinister way and all that stuff. But I think what we talk about in this documentary is that you know how we hear a lot now about whistleblowers in the UFO community? We talk about the fact that these guys came forward with their own brand, their own quality of whistleblowers, which really were kind of senile old men. that would just repeat and echo the same sort of concepts that they wanted them to present on to support their whole narrative. And I'm also in the documentary showing that essentially this is dangerous because so many people believed and, you know, we're on board.

with these theories, they were dumping tons of their money into conferences to attend to get this whistleblower testimony and they were subscribing to Gaia en masse and all these different things, all to find out years later in like these depositions and stuff that happened, that it was all just entertainment and intellectual property that was invented by these. men that we're deceiving people and trying to label entertainment as truth. And I think that's where, you know, we have to be careful because, heck, like, all of this stuff is entertaining, right? Like, I am entertained by the incredible amount of information that comes out of the UFO community every day or the Bigfoot community or. the crypto currency community, there's so much information that's

interesting that comes out of that, right? But we have to be really careful of promoting ideas that are patently untrue and are really just there as entertainment. I think that was one of the main themes of the docu series. And it probably will remain to be the theme of the docu series as we explore other people that have kind of like come and gone and weave their narratives

into the history of uphology or other stuff that's been going on, you know, that you've probably even seen. Oh, for sure, for sure. I guess the, and if, If I'm wrong, tell me. But the idea of 20 inbacks comes up in this, right? Yeah. Yeah. Is 20 in back from what you understand an original idea from these guys? Yeah.

It was invented by Corey Good. Wow. Yeah. So that's, I mean, that's a hard pill to swallow. And I've had emails from people who, are very, very, very invested in that idea, right? And I'm, I'm, I'm sure you've probably even spoken to many Tony Rodriguez twice. Yeah. And there's many of them out there that say they've, they basically lived a alternate life with their soul in another body, 20 years in the future,

but then they've been regressed back to like another body that they're living in now that they've come on your show and do the interview with. But this is just their basic life that they're living now. That other extravagant, like wild space story and stuff happened in another life with technology allowing for this kind of like surrogate. life swap or whatever, right? But it's like, it's an easy way out to say that and then not have any proof behind your claims.

Like, oh, well, it happened in the other life, right? And this, I think the one of the things about Corey is that he went after everybody who came after him that claimed that they were also a 20 and backer, right? So I talked to a guy named Tony. Rodrigues, nicest guy. I like him. I think he's a good guy. He came forward, you know, and said he was a 20-embacker and Corey and David said he was a fraud and, you know, threw him under the bus. And really, Tony even said he, you know, Corey was rude to me at a conference that we both were at and stuff like that. And it's, you know, in the documentary, we talk about what happened to Jason Rice. And he got like, threatened and he lost his job and all this stuff, you know, because there are people that believe that is their narrative and it can't be anybody else's narrative. The same thing happens though in euphology, right? Or even in the Bigfoot community, there are people that

come forward and say, I'm telling the truth. And, you know, that that's a lot. guy's not. I mean, I remember hearing a story that David Politees accused John Green and the original guys that went out to see the Bigfoot tracks in 1952 of murdering a family of Bigfoot, that they actually found the family of Bigfoot that created those original tracks. And this was a scandal. This was like a huge argument, a war that happened. in the Bigfoot community, I think in the 1980s. And, you know, I think David Polite's has done some great work and he's written some great books about that and the missing 411.

He did like the Hoopa Project, which is the Bigfoot book and some other stuff. But that happens. People get territorial about certain narratives and they, they war within the community. And that happened a lot in this. secret space, you know, community. And there's more people that come back all the time that say they were also on a 20 back. But you had to remember their, the origin for that whole story is with a man that denied

ever going to space. He said it was a astral projection or a meditative process in his deposition tape. So what more proof do you want? There are people that say, look, the 20 and back is actually, there's probably two or three people that are real and the rest is all manufactured. I want to speak to those two or three people. Do you have any idea who they are? I have no idea, but I've been told. I'm getting like these emails now since people have watched it.

There's a lot of people upset, you know, because they're sure. they think that I'm denying the truth of it, but it's like, I'm just presenting what has been said, you know, and what is part of the public record now. You can make your own mind up. I can't make it up for you. Yeah. And that's how I approach a lot of this stuff. Like, you know, we're not really here to tell people how to believe on things or what to think. We just share things with people and, you know, tell you to put your big boy pants on and think for yourself. And, you know, decide for yourself where you want to go with it. You know, when it comes to, you brought up Tony. I've had Tony on, I think, twice on the show. I think the first time I had him on was like for episode 90 or something within the first two years of the show.

And I think I brought him on for a follow-up after that. He's the only person that I can recall talking to that claim to be part of the 20 and back program. And he, if I remember correctly, he had. so much information that we barely tapped it into recordings. Do you think people like him are falling in the category of like a Corey Good, which is they know what they're doing and they're doing it anyways? Or do you think he has had experiences that through his maybe looking into things online or whatever came across this idea of Tony and back and it's like, you know what? I think that's

what happened to me. And he's he's funneling all his memories and thoughts into this category of 20 and back. I mean, what do you, what do you, and maybe not even, I don't want to, I don't want to focus in on him and make him the topic of a conversation as much as like the idea of, of that. Like, do you think that's a possibility for some of these people? Or do you think that, you know, from what you've been looking into, the 20, 20, if somebody's claiming 20 and back, they're pretty much outright saying to you, I'm lying. Yeah. So there's, uh, there's, uh, You know, we speak in the second episode of this docu-series to Leon Isaac Kennedy, African-American Hollywood actor.

He's a Christian minister. And he watched everything go down around him in terms of the controversy and the lawsuits and all this stuff that he was embroiled in regarding these people. and he's been part of the UFO community and part of the, you know, spiritual community for a long time. And he puts it pretty eloquently, you know, he says that there are people out there that have experienced UFOs, that have had these out-of-body experiences, right, where they might have been on a craft or might have been, interacting with a non-human intelligence and might have felt like they were off planet and so on and so forth. These people that come up throughout history, there are some that are real.

And what happened with this story is sometimes people see these other real stories and they relate it to what their experience was and then they just kind of go off with it, right? I think maybe, you know, Tony had a real experience and he's associating it with 20 and back. You know, it's possible. It's possible he had some kind of experience like a, I don't know, like a past life, who knows, right? that he's remembering. I can't speak for him per se,

but I just know that the 20 and back was a well-constructed sort of hoax, data mind, conspiracy theory data mind and science fiction mind you know, narrative because we could see all of these similar, popular ideas mirrored in science fiction. There's a part of the documentary where David Wilcock and Corey Good are literally talking to each other on stage at a conference about the concept of these alien races coming to Earth and doing

genetic harvesting and DNA mining or something like that. And they literally say in their presentation that they just went and saw a movie called Jupiter Ascending, which was produced by the Wachoski Brothers or whatever. And they're like, yeah, yeah, it's just like in that movie

we just watched Jupiter ascending. You know what I mean? It's like, okay. So like you're literally bringing up this concept right after you watched a movie together. Do you see how that's a bit of a conflict? Yeah. Of reality and this kind of truth that you're spreading. So and you see that all the time in their storyline.

Like total recall is this Arnold Schwarzenegger sci-fi where he lives to alter. he's like waking up, but it's like a totally different life, you know, but it's like a simulated reality or something that he's playing out and you don't know. And you've got all of these UFOs sort of war things like Bonnie Meyer wrote the book about blue bird people extraterrestrials long before Corey Goods started talking. talking about it in his narrative.

Wow. And so you. I'm sorry. Just to clarify with these, what you're just mentioning here, it sounds like there was a lot of data mining of information to compile into one cohesive storyline. Yeah.

Wow. That's right. And one of the, you know, Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot. Mm. Familiar. Yeah. And then there's like Bill Ryan, they started that kind of together. It's like the 4chan of conspiracy theories and stuff, but it's a little less toxic.

It's more like a community of people talking about all these different conspiracy truths or theories on chat boards. And Bill Ryan spun off his own website version of Project Camelot, which was called Project Avalon. the time in 2014, he tracked as the website administrator, the guy who ran the website, he tracked Corey Good's logins and saw that Corey Good was going to all of these hot topics in the conspiracy world. And he was engaging with that and learning about those theories. you know, everything from secret space programs to deep underground military bases, reptilian, alien, evil overlords and, you know, anti-gravity. And he was basically finding all these things.

And it was actually Bill Ryan and Carrie Cassidy that originally came out and said, we don't know if we trust this guy because, and they, they posted that on the forum message board. Bill Ryan wrote like an essay and explained why he thinks that this is all just a larp, like a story that's being created. And what happened thereafter, there was eventually some vengeance that was played out on Bill Ryan. he got doxed. His address and pictures of his home were put put out online by the Corey Good camp. And we have like a Western Union receipt that proves that Corrie Good paid the next door neighbor of Bill Ryan to actually do the spying and doxing. So it's like, you know, things like that that just it does, it adds up to a lot of bad, you know.

Yeah. You know, and it's like if if you're going to create something like this, it makes sense that you would do it that way, you know, because there's a lot of pieces to this. I'm not intimately not involved as we're looking for it in the know of Corey Good's supposed story

and all that you know I dance around the circles with a lot of this stuff and I just kind of peek in the window like oh that's interesting you know you want to talk about it on the show

yeah that's kind of where we go with it but it makes sense because some of the things that I have heard involving the 20 and back I've heard

in other things when people aren't even claiming 20 and back. It's like little details, you know. The idea of, like you were talking about the idea of DNA, the alien DNA thing. Like there's versions of that that I've heard or even the idea of trying to manipulate the, let's just call it the, if you don't want to say the soul, the astral body of some kind of, there's some kind of manipulation from that people are experiencing where it's like when I go to sleep, I'm coming to understand that I am going somewhere else and there's something going on where these things, whatever they are, are doing to me, you know? And it's like that you see pieces

and you're like, and that's what that maybe is what makes a believable lie. Right? Yeah. Because There's factors of all this existing already in the greater community, right? Like you're talking about abduction phenomenon. Okay, I'm going to take that part from the abduction phenomenon. I'm going to take like this part from time travel, this part from deep underground military bases. The bad guys are the reptilian, Draco reptilians, you know, I'm battling them on a moon base or on Mars. like it's all kind of there in different parts of the community, but you're putting it into your own like super story,

like connected to all of it. So you're the one that has like the most knowledge come to me. I can, you know what I mean? That's what it was like mainly about. And I believe some of this stuff could be true. You know, I mean, we're talking. talking about some of the stuff in the hearings a week and a half ago. If any of that is true, it's mind blowing, you know?

But when one person claims to be exposed to all of it, that's where we got to be like, okay, well, how do we verify these claims? We can't. I lived for 20 years in this other body. Okay. Great. Thanks. You know?

But many people have been like wrapped up in this and really, really invested their lives and their money and their time and confidence in these stories. And it's like, I don't know. It's almost like, like, and it's a shame that that's happened that there have been people who invested their maybe life savings into this to help advance, you know, the disclosure of it and to be, you know, a complete lie. And it's almost like, like Corey and whoever else that's involved with this, it's like, on the very base level of it, can't fault you for the imaginative effort. But it's the direction you took it because there's a whole audience called comic books that would have loved this story. It's like you picked the wrong.

He what? He made a comic book. okay well that kind of defeats my firm like i was going to say like you picked the wrong audience but now he's like i just want to hit all of it i want to hit these people i want to hit this people that's crazy he did it wow wow it's actually in his deposition he picks it up and he says it is his like ip bible or something like that wow but yeah like it is you know it is what it is what it is i mean We'll tell the truth over time, right? Yeah.

But that's why we always got to like, it's great to tell. These stories are fascinating, you know. There's a reason why it captivated so many people because you had like the frontman spokesperson, David Wilcock, who's super animated and an amazing entertainer, right? but he was pushing a load of, you know, and Corey was, you know, with him along the way. So, I don't know. It's like I think the documentary is, you know, factual, but also part comedy. it's supposed to be a bit of a dark comedy because we have to have a sense of humor about these

things too, right? We're human. People make mistakes. People are people, right? We have faults and we make, we try to learn from mistakes. We try to learn from misdeeds and pick ourselves back up and move forward. and do better. And I guess that's kind of like the lesson here, so to speak.

Yeah, that's a good lesson to have. It really is. You know, like you mentioned earlier about, you know, finding these topics entertaining. Like, I think anybody who listens to, you know, this podcast or watches your documentaries, like there is an entertainment. Like, they find it interesting. and it's it's one of those things where maybe not take

yourself too serious you know as far as I don't know like I think people sometimes get so caught up in it that it becomes their identity and their entire world and that's when it like you're leading yourself to a cliff that eventually you're going to have

to jump off of and it's it's It's not going to end pretty. It's going to hurt. Yeah. And I've been there. Like, I've literally been so invested in these UFO stories. You know what I mean? That I felt like I was, it was my life. And I'm trying to separate myself a bit from that these days, you know? Like, just like you probably have sometimes felt like, whoa.

Like, I'm really, I'm not going through that portal, you know, if it manifests or something. you know what I mean? Like I want to have my feet on solid ground. I want to like, you know, be with my family and friends the rest of my life and stuff. So it's like you can become unhinged. And I think these fringe theories,

these, this fringe reality that we might be dealing with, it unhinges people. And then when you also got these stories, stories that are coming out of this that are kind of exploitative, right? And they, they work on more vulnerable people, which are the people who are already unhinged from reality. And they're having a hard time figuring themselves out and trying to figure out, you know, what their future is. They're trying to figure out where they fit in the world.

and they get attracted to these theories, they can get really lost. And it can be really damaging to them long term. And so I guess, like, part of me giving back is trying to help people understand that not everything has to be taken seriously, right? That's out there in terms of this conspiracy world community. You need to sort of like come back to reality, speak to good people, surround yourselves with your, your, you know, sensible family members or friends or community members, like you're part of a church and stuff.

There's some amazing people that probably can help you come back to earth, so to speak. You know what I mean? Yeah. And like a documentary like this is meant to do that. It's meant to sort of like, okay, guys, let's take a breather. Let's come back to reality. Things got out of hand. You know what I mean?

Absolutely. Absolutely understand. My buddy, Joel, he has a podcast called Free the Rabbits. And it's like this concept of, you know, we're going to talk about all this crazy stuff and we're going to go down these theories and stuff. But at the end of the day, we want to maintain and keep our sanity. And I always mess up his tagline. but I think his tagline is something like come out the hole and touch grass. And it's just like, it's good to do that. You know, it's good to just touch grass sometimes and just breathe some

fresh air. Darcy, I want to bring this in for a landing. I just want to ask you where we can find this docu-series and also your newest documentary, which is Transmedium Puerto Rico's UFOs. Where can people get to stuff? And I'll put a link in the description as well. So Dark Alliance, that's on like 2BTV Amazon Prime Roku and I think yeah on Roku and 2B TV you can just watch it for free

if you have listeners that are in the UK they can watch it on Amazon for free but here in the United States it's like a dollar per episode it's not going to break the bank really low

barrier of entry but Transmedium the Puerto Rico journey I took recently. That is available on Apple TV, Xbox, like a bunch of other platforms, Fandango now, that type of thing. And yeah, I know you saw that film too, right?

Yeah, yeah. Tell the people what it's about briefly. Yeah, so I went out with a friend, Andy Marciel, who's a Puerto Rican native, who now lives in New York. We met when I was making this documentary with Tim Gallaudet about ocean-based U.S.O encounters. And Andy's actually a really interesting person. You should talk to him.

He's going to be possibly featured in a News Nation special soon. But Andy Merciel was this guy that built up this like Instagram following and then a guy who followed him, who was a Department of Homeland Security agent, liked what he was doing and said, hey, I've got these real videos that we recorded and filed away within the Department of Homeland Security. Do you want to see them and possibly vet them and leak them to the public? So there's four videos people can look up. It's La Bruja, the A-10 Wardhog, the Apache, UAP footage and the rubber duck UAP footage. Those videos got leaked eventually through Andy

who goes by NYUAP discussion. I interviewed him regarding that footage and the leak for this original documentary with Tim Gallaudet and we became friends and I was like, hey man, we got to work on something else. What do you think? He's like, yeah, we should go to Puerto Rico where I'm from. There's tons of UFO and U.S.O. Sightings that have happened around the island over decades.

We could try and find some people there. I've got family and friends. I was like, awesome. I've never been to Puerto Rico. Let's go. And we became friends with this guy Jorge Martin, who is a Puerto Rican native. He's lived there for decades and decades. And yeah, Jorge is.

like the George Knapp of Puerto Rico, you know, he's like OG journalist that's been recording these events around the island and he hooked us up with the guy who leaked the

2013 Aguadilla footage, which actually was mentioned in the UAP hearings this past week on the 19th of November. Now, this past week's hearings were held by Aero, the All Domain Resolution Office or whatever, and they debunked.

They just took every opportunity to debunk this phenomenon, that there's any non-human intelligence aspect to it. A lot of people expected that to happen, but they debunk the Aguadilla footage, They called it a balloon. And there's been heavy scientific analysis of that video by the scientific coalition for UAP studies, Robert Powell. There's been now my documentary where we spoke to the agent that leaked that footage. And we hear the before, during, and after the release of that video,

like what happened and why that video was captured. and why it was released. And yeah, we went around the island. We met with some other interesting experiencers, one of which said that they met a non-human intelligence that was, looked like an Indian man and said that they were from another planet and that there's going to be some horrors coming to Earth, like a kind of cataclysmic event where an asteroid strikes and causes mass pollution

and destroys lots of, there's, you know, the population gets somewhat decimated and the rich live on an island and all kinds of stuff like this. So it's a bit of a wild ride, the documentary, but it's, revolving around this stuff we're talking about, like UFOs and non-human intelligence. I love it. I love it. And as a Puerto Rican, I highly recommend it. Oh, you're Puerto Rican? Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that, man. I thought you were Italian. Yeah, people don't know what I am. I am whatever you say I am. If I wasn't, and why would I say I am? That's funny, dude. Wow.

I am Puerto Rican when I used to be a parking enforcement officer in Reading, Pennsylvania, and that city is filled with Spanish people, and they come running up to me, yelling at me in Spanish for writing a parking ticket, and I don't understand Spanish, I don't speak it. So I'd like, you know, I tell them, I don't understand what they're saying, and they look to me like I have 10 heads. And so then I started telling people, I'm Italian, so they would understand, oh, he doesn't speak Spanish, like he's Italian. So, yeah, I'm Italian.

But, you know, if you don't see me. If you don't see me on video or picture, you see the last name and there's no Spanish accent, you might think I'm German because that's a German last name, Merkel. Yeah, Merkel. Yeah. I'm a weird, I'm a weird mix, man. But yeah, 50% Puerto Rican. My biological father was 100%.

I see it now. Honestly, I see it now. Yeah. Like olive skin, the dark hair and stuff. Like my buddy, Andy, Marceale, he looks. a little bit like you too. He's bald. All Puerto Ricans, man.

We go bald. We grow black beards. The ladies like it, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, man. For sure. For sure. But yeah,

so, dude, thanks for having me on. It was good catching up with you talking about all things. And glad you checked out some of my recent investigations. And yeah, man. Really good chat with you. Awesome, man. Dance secret spilling out you could feel the suspense talk of hybrids and programs so deep where the ocean found inside reverse engineering oh they broke it down what's under the surface and what's underground crashes and crafts the stories unfold of the sky it's so long oh don't turn away the truth

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