The Confessionals - 730: Hollywood, Deception, and the End-Times Agenda

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

In episode 730: Hollywood, Deception, and the End-Times Agenda, Tony sits down with Pastor Todd Coconato for a raw and powerful conversation about faith, survival, and the unseen battles shaping our world. Todd shares his shocking testimony of leaving behind a dark Hollywood lifestyle, only to be stabbed nine times in a brutal attack, an event that led to a life-altering encounter with God.They also dive deep into Hollywood’s underbelly, the spiritual warfare lurking behind the entertainment industry, and the growing hunger for truth in a world filled with deception. The discussion takes a wild turn into UFOs, abductions, and whether an ancient, supernatural intelligence is manipulating world events. Are we on the verge of a great awakening, or are we being led into one of the greatest deceptions in history?Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZMy New YouTube Channel Merkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsUNCOMMON GOODS: uncommongoods.com/tonyGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerTodd CoconatoYoutube | Instagram | WebsiteOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - SpinningYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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at last October. He is a fantastic person. He kind of grew up in Hollywood doing acting, and we talk about the dark underbelly of Hollywood, UFO abductions and Nephilim, global conspiracies and government manipulations, ancient biblical archaeology and spiritual Wakenings within the Christian faith. I think this was a great conversation. I hope you do too. So let's get to it right now. Todd Coconado, what's on? What's going on, man? Tony, it is so good to be here. I love your, you know, confessional's podcast. The new studio looks amazing. So, yeah, I just appreciate everything you're doing, man. Dude, I'm glad you're here. I want to let the audience know kind of how we got connected. So first of all, I met you, or before I met you, I saw you on Alendadillo's

channel. He's a good guy. And I didn't know much about you. I just saw you talking about UFOs. And I was like, this guy seems like up my alley, you know? And I never got around to looking into reaching out and stuff. I'm really bad with that stuff. And then to my surprise, I was sitting at the conference and you come walking into the door. It's like, hey, that's the guy from YouTube. Yeah. And we got to talk in and stuff and we hit it off. But it turns out you live in the Nashville area. I do. But you haven't started out there, right? No. You've been all over the world. It's been a journey. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to introduce the audience to you today as far as who you are, where you come from your background. And I guess we can start forward, though, as to what you're doing today.

And then we can kind of go into your history. So if you let people know, you know, a little bit about yourself. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm pastoring in Nashville. We have a podcast. a radio show. Mario Marillo and I do a show called Firepower, which actually has got a lot of traction online. We didn't really know what was going to happen, but the Lord has just kind of taking it off. So, yeah, our main heart, my heart is to get people saved. And that's because I had a radical encounter with God. I pastor, evangelist, last thing that Todd Coconado ever aspired to be. In fact, my parents were, my mom was super, what I thought, religious. And so I kind of ran from that because there was a lot of contention in my home growing up. And so I got involved in

Hollywood, a young age. And then long story short, I got really caught up out there and started partying with a bunch of people. They call it young Hollywood. I saw a lot of stuff go on in the industry, new people that were famous. As I always say, I wasn't famous, but I was on shows and different things like that. And so, you know, I just got into a real dark lifestyle at a young age. And And then, you know, real short version of a long testimony, but I got stabbed nine times. I don't know if you knew that about me. That sounds like Paul Pierce. I think he was stabbed nine times too outside of a club.

Man. You're hanging out with the same guy? No, but, you know, I do find other people that have had things like this happen. That's crazy. That's wild because nine times, that's a lot of stabs. Yeah. But, you know, I was just... What happened there?

What's the story there? So for like two years, I became a Christian out of that Hollywood lifestyle. It happened at a conference where I just... somebody dragged me to this Christian conference and ended up getting saved. And so then I go back and, you know, so for like two years, I just tell people I was in this like Christian limbo because I had come out of Hollywood. I had a lot of friends there in the world. I had a lot of connections there.

And I was making a lot of money, right? And then once I get saved, I have to basically change everything. I have to give up everything because things I was doing was not anything that a Christian would do. It was all dark stuff, you know? So I went back to minimum wage at a minimum wage. I moved home with my parents. It was embarrassing. It was humbling.

Yeah. After living in a really nice condo with nice cars, making good money, you know. So it was a real life change. And so for two years, I tried to make friends in the church. And I'm going to tell you, I have a lot of sympathy for people that are coming out of the world and that I've had an encounter with God and try to get into the church. Because some churches aren't so welcoming. You know, I would sit in the foyer of the church for a little while.

And it was like, the people were just, you know, a different type of person that I was. I was coming out of the underground Hollywood scene, you know? So it was hard for me to relate. And thank God there was these greeters that would say hi to me. That made me feel a little bit, a little bit welcome. The greeters. The greeters. But, you know, I mean, I just, I think everybody, because if you've been in church for a long

time, you don't think about this stuff. You know, or if you kind of grew up in the church or whatever. Or even if, like, you know, we're in the South, a lot of people grew up in the church, but maybe they weren't like super on fire for God, but they still were in the culture of the church. So, you know, but for me, it was like super foreign because in L.A., there's not really that element. You're either Christian or you're not, you know. So it's much different there than it is kind in some other parts of the country, right? So, you know, if you found the Christians there,

there's probably more remnant people, you know. So anyway, it was a big life change. So what happened is I ended up one night, you know, going back to my old crowd, and that was the night I ended up getting stabbed. And I wasn't making smart decisions. I was making student decisions at that time, too. But, you know, the bottom line is it got me to, you know, a place where there was a guy that came out and he had a knife and I wasn't even prepared. I didn't even know it was. I didn't even know it going on and stab me and one of the first stabs is in my heart. Jeez. Yeah.

And so, you know, it's like I could fight. I was a good fighter. But the problem was is once you get stabbing the heart, it's hard, you know? It's kind of thing that pumps the blood, you know? Yeah, man. And that's kind of what was happening. Blow was like, you know, anyway, I don't want to get gory here. It's coming out holes that shit.

It looked like a movie. It looked like, it was a movie scene. And so here's the thing. The guy that stabbed me ended up realizing, I think, like, oh, my God, I could kill this guy. and something must have snapped in his head or whatever. And so he ended up picking me up and putting me in my car. Yeah.

And I never told you this story. Did I put me in my own car and drove me to a hospital with his girlfriend in the front seat? So I'm like in the middle seat. Did he know you? No. So it was like a random attack? It was a random attack. But there was probably some type of misunderstanding.

And I think he was maybe at least drunk, you know, under the influence of some other drugs probably too. So, you know, not really thinking correctly. Yeah, man. So, but, you know, he. took me in the hospital, and then he left me like a movie scene. On the way of the hospital, I go into the presence of God. It was like I knew that I was either dead or, you know, almost dead, but I went in the presence of God. And so the Lord says, do you want to live or do you want to die?

And I said, I want to live. I didn't like see God. I just heard this voice. You kind of know, I mean, it was like tunnel vision. And then I went into like a white presence. Okay. And I heard the Lord said, do you want to live or do you want to die? And so, you know, what do you say when you're young and you know, you haven't had kids?

Yeah, you want to get married. I mean, I just, yeah, I want to live. Okay, if you live, then you got to do two things. You got to be sold out for me for the rest of your life. In other words, you got to serve me the rest of your life. And you got to tell people that I'm real. And so it was like there's a chapter in the Bible, Isaiah chapter six. And it says, I saw the Lord seated on the throne and the train of his rope.

Remember that scripture? Train of his robe filled the table. And Isaiah, anybody that's ever been in the presence of God, like, that, you know, he was undone. He was undone. That's what it's like, the holiness of God. When you're in the presence of God, it's like, it's like you can never, ever forget what that feels like, because it's so powerful. This is why, like, there's a fake version of Christianity that doesn't have the power. And then if there's the real, like, if you have an encounter and you touch the hem of his garment, you actually say, I want you, God. That's what we got to do. We got to say, I want

you, God. Reveal yourself to me. because we have free will, you know? So anyway, I'm in the presence of God like Isaiah 6. That's crazy. So once I come out of that, brother, it was like my whole life was forever changed. Like, it doesn't matter what people say. Doesn't matter what people do. It doesn't matter what happens in the world.

Like, I know God is real. I know I have a mission, you know? So it changed my life forever. I ended up going Bible school. And that's how I ended up getting in the ministry. Wow. But God has opened so many doors over the years, so much favor and just allowing me. to go back and talk to people like myself and understand what it was like to come in the

Christian world and understand some of the challenges from that lifestyle because it's a real big life change. Yeah. That's wild. So I really enjoy listening to different preachers, preach, and when I say different, I mean like from different theological paths, right? So like Vodhi is one of Baccombe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Voddy Baccombe. He's bold man. Very. And I, and I, I also, I kind of, so I was, I almost said raised. I lived with, at a Pentecostal, somebody's a God Bible college, I ruined a bunch of Calvinists. Oh, wow.

And so, like, I don't know how that happened, but, like, there was a lot of Calvinists where I lived at the dorm floor. And so I got this mixed theological perspective, right? And I was introduced to John Piper. Okay. And, you know, I don't agree with John Piper on a lot of his theological things, but there some of them that, like, his teaching is so infectious. Yeah.

You know? I understand. And I hear him talking about the presence of God. Yes. And what that, from his perspective, would be like. Right. And hearing you talk about that and just the excitement that you just shared, I was like, I think Piper might have been on point for that one.

Because Piper said, I remember him saying this, and I've talked to my church about this, he says that because God is so he's omnipotent he's so huge that we can't as finite beings totally comprehend an infinite God and so when we're in his presence he said for eternity every moment of eternity in his presence is going to be a brand new moment experiencing his grace and presence that we never even experienced before. That's right. And when I heard him talk about that, I was like, holy crap, that's wild. Right?

Right? Like, think about like the most, like, the strongest spiritual high you've ever had in your life, whether you're a Christian or not Christian right now, like, the strongest you've ever felt on a spiritual high, that pales in comparison to just one, like, fraction of a second in eternity in the presence of God. That's crazy. Isn't that wild? It's crazy.

And this was a mess. that for the early church, they always talked about the afterlife. You know, to live as Christ, to die his game. It was a major message in the early Christian church. And look what's happened where now it's been more entertainment focused. I hate to say it. But what can I get out of being a Christian? You know, what's going to have like what good thing, which there are good things because

you are going to have the favor of God. But that's not, you know, really what we're originally. The Bible was talking about, you know, hey, look, we're going to be representatives of Jesus here on earth. We're going to be the salt and the light. We're going to go through trials, tests, persecution. It's going to be crazy. People are going to turn on us just for the name of Jesus. But here's the thing. I'm going to be with you till the end of the age. I'm not going to leave you. I'm not going to forsake you. But he's laying out the real Christian life. But what you just said, and I love it because you're just hitting all the points today, man. What you said is like,

imagine if the church started talking about the streets of goal, where we're headed. It couldn't be a better place. Yeah. God is so good that there's no better than where a Christian is headed. If your name is written in a Lamb's Book of Life, your future is the absolute best. So that's where we can, we understand, we're just passing through this world. We're citizens of heaven, you know. And so that's the deal, always living in view of eternity, but while we're here doing the work of the Lord. Yeah. You know, and I find that, you know, people, I guess, their ears are tickled by different things, right? Sure.

And I just did an episode, a few weeks back, I think we published it with Rick Renner. Oh, yeah. And we spent a large amount of that time. I think more than I think more than what he was hoping for, but I couldn't help myself on Noah's Ark. Oh, yeah. And the location. And because I remember at one point, he's like, he brought in the Nephilim.

And I was like, we'll get back to the Nephilim. I was like, I have some more questions about this. But like, that. episode, from what I heard, I haven't looked into it too much, but I know the Instagram rails popped off horror. And I think there's, there's, maybe it's just unique to this kind of audience that is really interested in the mysterious side of life. The idea of discovery of ancient old things and like locations like that, right? And so I've been considering there's a couple biblical archaeologists that, like there's one guy, I forget his name now, of course,

is forgetting, I'm escaping me, but he has almost like a million subscribers on YouTube. And he travels the world looking for things out of the Bible and locating them and showing them into the world. And he says, like, it's literally you have a map right in front of you. Like, the Bible is your map. And if you know how to read the map, it takes you to the doorsteps of these locations. And so, like, I'm considering, you know, maybe going down that road and doing some more of those kind of conversations with people that, that have traveled the world doing that stuff because, again, like, it kind of comes back to what we were talking about. Like, people, like, they're coming to this understanding that they are spiritual

beings. Yes. And, like, as a Christian, I'm like, I'm like, yes, people are realizing this. Right. And now I want to, it kind of introduce them to the next level of everything, you know? And so I'm trying to think of how I can kind of do that and also keep people interested who maybe, you know, they're not interested in, you know, my faith as much as, hey, that's really interesting, though. You found the ancient city of Nineveh. Yes, it's all connected, though. See, that's what, if we come to understand that, that this is the reality of the world, we're truth seekers. So, you know, when we're talking about Nephilim or what's going on, is there an alien situation happening?

Or a lot of the things that are real, you know, a lot of people are interested right now, which they should be. It all comes back to the same thing, though. The Bible has already laid this out. Yeah. laid out what's going to happen, how it's going to happen. There's going to be people that are deceived. There's going to be different Christ, you know, the different Christ that are not the Christ, you know, different winds of doctrine, which we're seeing happening right now.

People are going to be chasing all these different. I mean, the Bible laid it all out. But he said, look, those that endure until the end, though, those that hunger and thirst for righteousness, that's the group that if you do that, the power of God. And so when I, you know, like, oh, this is a preacher. That's what he's going to talk about. But see, you said, like, how do you bridge that up? when we as truth seekers are like, you know what, this is the reality of the world.

And if I'm searching for truth, if I start looking into this more, what's going to happen is every time you do, you're going to find more truth. You're just going to keep unlocking more truth. Like you said, locations, prophecy. I mean, what kind of book is written that long ago and is able to never proven wrong? I mean, I wrote a book like a couple years ago. And my books are, I mean, in a couple of years, there's going to be things that are probably outdated in there. By the way, your book is

Come Out From Among Them. Yes, sir. Check it out, people. They can buy it on Amazon and things like that. Yeah, yeah, it's just on Amazon. Yeah, so Jack, put this up on camera real quick. There we go. Appreciate it. Yeah. No, and I think that, you know, there's this awestruckness

when it comes to historical evidence of supernatural things happening. Right. Right. And so what if you can prove that there's a location that where the Bible says something happened where like a fire fell from heaven.

You know, what if you can take people there and show them, look at the melted sand, right? You know, look at the, the red sea and the chariots

underneath the red sea, you know, and there's, and how the red sea, where these chariots are sitting, it just so happens to be the only spot of the red sea that people,

if the water did part, could cross. Exactly. They could actually walk across it. There's no cliffs and stuff. You know? Right. And so it kind of puts things and it's like, okay, you know, and whether I personally, this is my personal opinion, I think whether you are interested in, you know, Christianity or not, that kind of stuff's interesting. Like just being somebody who lives on planet Earth, having these ancient manuscripts saying these wild claims. And then being able to thousands of year later go back and like, there's a high probability that that is actually a location that this happened at. What are the odds? And then makes you wonder, it's like, well, what else is real?

You know? That's it, man. I mean, what are the odds? I mean, probability standpoint. Yeah. I mean, I go back to that. A book that was written so many. And people say, well, there's all these different odds with it.

And look, God had it where it was put together. And it corroborates with itself all the way through. You know, and the Lord is, he shows his persona to us. So that, like you said, if we get into the Bible, I've never seen. And I've been around very wealthy people, very successful people, people in the political world, the Lord has done some interesting things in my life where I've been around a lot of people. But if I've never seen somebody that goes into the Bible and becomes a lover of the Bible and learns the Bible and applies the Bible, I've never seen one of those people be unsuccessful.

I've never seen that person be unfulfilled. I've never, that person will be a solid person because you have wisdom that only comes from God and from His Holy Spirit. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Absolutely. And the fulfillment, like you said, is the thing that I chase. that's the thing I chase.

Like I just want fulfillment in this life. Yes. You know, and I've chased fulfillment in so many things throughout my life. And the only thing that I literally can come back to and say, if I lose everything in my life, I still have this, which is Christ. Right.

Like that feeling that I have in those moments where I acknowledge that is so fulfilling. Yes. And it can't be taken away from me. Like, like, I can be put in a camp somewhere. it doesn't matter. And when you have that, you literally have a never-ending joy that surpasses all understanding.

Come on, man. You got it. That's the fire. If you have a joy in the middle of a trial, that's the fire of God in you. You can't do it otherwise. When the Lord talks about a peace that passes understanding,

it's a shalom that comes on a person that they can handle anything. You know what I'm saying? And that only is God given. Like, he's our strength. He's got to be. If we try to do it on our own strength, we're going to fail. Yeah.

And that's what a lot of people try to do, you know? For sure. I mean, I think at some point in everybody's life, they go through seasons like that, you know? The reason why I apologize here is because I just realized my pastor, I think he said that, I think he said that he gave his life to the Lord. I think he was four. Okay. And I was like, well, maybe he didn't, you know? Like, I don't know.

That's kind of early. But, so all right, let's kind of backtrack a little bit here and talk about, because I definitely want to hit on UFOs, but I want to talk about Hollywood a little bit too, because there's a lot of things going on right now with Hollywood that I think people, I think people are starting to realize that there's a dark underbelly. Obviously, P. Diddy and that whole situation. And I think there's like a, there's a domino effect that happens with this where when something becomes put into light that's irrefutable, like the P. Ditty situation,

you start, anybody who looks into it, then starts seeing other things that are red flags, too, and they're like, wait a second. Yeah, that's why they don't want people looking into it. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I mean, for years, we talk about, like, the Super Bowl and the halftime show. Right. And if you remember, like, probably like five years ago now, Beyonce performed. And the symbolism wasn't even subtle. It wasn't even subtle. So in our face. It was in your face. And it's becoming, I think, from my perspective, more and more on the surface showing the cards, this is a satanic industry. And not to say that all people there are satanic, but the operator, the underlying operator to me from the outside looking in is very satanic.

Did you see that kind of stuff while you were there? Yes. You did? Yes. Okay, so was it something that you were aware of while you were there or was something that you, like, looking back, you were like, oh, that's what that was. Probably more looking back, that's what that was. But there's a level, see, this is where I think every human being has a blueprint inside of us where we inherently kind of know what's good and what's evil. And I think that's what begins our faith journey, you know, and the decision as a free will individual, like, do I want to go on a faith journey? Do I want to seek God or do I want to just, you know, ignore God and pretend like he's not, you know, So people have to make a choice.

But, you know, I, in the middle of the dark, it was so dark at times where I just as a child, I remember going back and just think like, this is, you know, something's wrong here. You know, have you ever felt like that? Remember when you were a kid? And there was like a weird person or they were a creep or something. I lived in a trailer park. There's a lot of those. You know what I'm saying?

And you had like this inherent feeling. Like, this person's a bad person. You know, it's like a discernment, you know? And so that's what I would feel like. And I just didn't know how to process it. We were Catholic at the time, but, you know, it's a much different experience. We would go to the Catholic church once in a while, but it's like kind of stand up, sit down. I'm not mocking or knocking Catholic.

I'm just telling it. It was kind of my experience. I didn't really know until I really had an encounter with God, you know. So, yeah, so there was, I knew there was a God, but that was about the end of it, you know. I maybe prayed one or two times in my life, you know. But there was times when I just felt such darkness, and I knew there was a lot going on that was very evil. And so looking back and hearing things. that's now coming out, I experienced some of those things, you know, yeah.

Yeah. So how old were you when you started in the industry? I was like eight. Eight? Yeah. And when did you get out of it? I was in my teens. Your teens?

Yeah. So like late teens, early teens? Like mid teens. Midteens? Yeah. So let's just say you spend about eight years in the industry. I would say around that, yeah. Have, did you come across, and I don't need you to name names or anything.

Right. Like, I'm not trying to get sued. No. But did you come across anybody in that time where, where looking back, it's been shown and proven that person, they do things to kids or something like that. I'm assuming with what you just said, it sounds like looking back, you're like, oh, that person probably is pervy.

Here's like a scenario, like you go into casting, you know, and then you know they're talking about the casting couch. Why would agents say, or like people that are in that casting room, why would they say your mom has to stay out of the room when you're eight years old, you know, and bring you into a room with like all these adults kind of judging you and saying things that are inappropriate, you know, that type of thing happens a lot in Hollywood. You know, I don't know, maybe now it may be different with some of the stuff that's now come out, but that was going on when I was a kid, you know, so there was just like, you know,

yes, looking back where some of the handlers and the people on set and, you know, there was weird stuff going on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, anytime you ask somebody to send their kid into a room with a bunch of adults to be, to be judged, without mom, that's kind of weird. It's definitely kind of weird.

Yeah, and there's your very godless people, many of them, and I'm sure there's some perverts mixed in there and things like that. Yeah, and I don't think, from my perspective, I don't think it's changed, even if things are coming out. I think maybe they changed locations, you know? Like, they maybe, you know, pulling a different page out of the strategy book. Let's go to a deeper level here.

You know, why is it so dark? So you look up Operation Mocking, Bird in the Church Commission. I'm sure you've talked about that with your viewers probably in the past. But, you know, these were proven hearings where the government says they've interfered in the media and they have people in the media and people. And so that was years ago. I mean, that was like many, many years ago. They probably never stopped that. In fact, if anything, it probably got more to where things that they call predictive programming, but they put out different messages and propaganda through a lot of the messaging that comes out of Hollywood.

I mean, just look at the last election cycle. You know, look, look how some of these famous people all rallied around Camilla Harris, you know, because she was more the establishment person, you know, that was part of this whole same system. You know what I'm saying? So what is Hollywood? What is the purpose, at least now, you know, what is, so if that, if Hollywood is like a mouthpiece for an agenda, okay, let's just go there and let's just say hypothetically,

that's the case, right? Yeah, quote unquote, hypothetically. Yeah, yeah, allegedly. Allegedly. You know what I say? Yeah. So, you know, let's just say that, though, at least to some level, because we know that there's historical precedent for this with the Church Commission and Operation

Markburn, right, which we don't think has stopped. So how deep is it at this point? When you look at the military industrial complex, you look at the globalists and a lot of these entities that even President Trump, I feel like, is up against, right? And now he's coming in and there's a big shift going on. But what is all this? This is all spiritual. everything that's playing out.

I mean, people are saying that men can be, you know, women and women. I mean, all this stuff is spiritual and going after kids. And so I think we all have to kind of come to a reality of where we're at right now because there's been a lot of stuff that's come out. It's like an information explosion. And I think the Lord has used the Internet. And maybe it was an unintended consequence that the other people didn't know was going to happen. But look what's happened in the Internet age where things that were for, you know, decades,

the mainstream media where people just believed everything they said. And it was a small group of people staring the narrative, right? Now, look at alternative media and podcasting and folks that are truth speakers. And there's like this explosion of information that's happened. And that's what's leading us back to a spiritual decision. Like now that we have all the evidence, I mean, you said in the beginning of the broadcast, we're like, these entities are now going to be coming out. It's like not even hiding anymore.

Yeah. You know, that's wild. Like, what are we going to see? The Bible says, like, the days of Noah. What's that going to look like? You know, is it going to be a fake alien invasion? Is it going to be, you know, there's a lot of stuff that's going on that could potentially be. But the Bible talks about a great deception in the last days, you know, and I think we're coming to the head of like, it's like the apex in the movie, you know? It's like we're coming to the exciting part, but get ready, put on the armor of God and be real, you know? Yeah, the, I can't think of the, the name of this document. It was adjusted in 2012 and something. I can't remember. But it literally made propaganda legal to be utilized on American citizens. Yeah, certainly, yeah, exactly. And since then, you can literally see that shift. That's right. You can literally see that shift. Big time. And maybe it's overplaying hands. You know, like when the pendulum swings really hard one way, it tends to swing back. That's true. And I feel like we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, kind of experiencing that. Yes. And I don't think what you referenced just now was before, I think that was before we actually started this recording. But what you were referencing is, like, I feel like we're in a time where these things

are going to start showing their faces. And, you know, we talk about a lot of wild stuff on the show. Right. And people have been experiencing things that they can't explain. anything from, you know, cryptosoology to the dogman, the U.F or the, the Bigfoot, these creatures that theoretically shouldn't exist

to abductions and the mind-bending trip that goes on with the abduction stuff. I mean, I know you, you talk about UFOs and all that. I don't know the extent of, I don't know how you got involved in talking about UFO.

So I'd like to hear that. But like, I guess maybe to start off in this direction with things. And I don't want to move away from Hollywood if there's more to, we can kind of navigate around and stuff. But have you come across situations when it comes to the UFO topic and let's just pair UFO with abduction, all that stuff? Have you come across situations that made you scratch your head to a point? You're like, how is, like, it seems like,

this actually happened. And how is that possible? And I'll give you an example because recently it's been on the show a few times now. I know twice with a woman, her name's fringe from X, but I think somebody else brought something up recently too, this idea that during the abduction, these entities, now she's going through these abductions and her story is basically long story, very short. In 2020, she's a retired police officer. In 2020, she's a retired police officer. In 2020, she found herself sitting at home because she wasn't allowed to do anything in Idaho, I think, for a two-week period. So she started journaling her dreams that she thought were dreams. And turns out through the journaling, revealing things, she realized these aren't dreams.

These are actually happening to me. And her husband has shared experiences. And she talks about a lot of different things. But one of the things she talks about is this idea that these entities, and I say entities very strategically, because she, went from a Calvinistic background to atheistic because when she started having these revelations, she's like, oh my gosh, and she went to atheism, and then into New Age. And then with these spirit guides talking to her, she connected that. She's like, wait, if you're telling me that and that's true, that means God is true. And she went right back into the grace of God. Come on. And so she has these experiences that she's talking about from a Christian perspective. Okay.

She says that either she experienced or she's seen it or something with this idea of soul-sucking. They have technology in these other realms that are like sucking the souls out of people and repurposing them. Which goes into her theory of the possibility of this idea of reincarnation. And when you hear that, you're like, that's wild. You know, like I've told her, I was like that. I don't even know how to perceive that, right? Until a few weeks ago, I had a guy in here, his name Seth. He's from Virginia, and we were talking about ancient historical dog man.

And for thousands of years, there's been documentation of explorers and stuff coming across people that have dogheads. It's, he has the Latin documents that he's been going through. It's wild, right? And it's all covered up stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. Somehow we got on this topic, and he recently just got hired by his church just to answer Bible questions. Because they have so many people asking Bible questions that they're like, hey, you're 25, you're single, you're not married.

And you seem to really like this stuff. You want to, and they're like, yeah. So he went from doing like cybersecurity to working at his church answering Bible questions. So his job is to study. I love it. And when I brought this up, he referred to, he goes, Ezekiel, I think it's Ezekiel 1813. And it's a prophecy. It's talking about, I don't know if it's a prophecy, actually.

But it says basically that I think God's talking to female witches. and it says, like, it talks about them making bands for the wrist, magical bands for their wrists, where they are hunting for the souls of his people. And I was just like, well, that's interesting. And then I pair it with things like this. So, hey guys, this episode is brought to you by Merkmerch.com. Go ahead and get your Merkel Media apparel at Merkmerch.com.

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And Tim has... Yeah, great work. It's a very smart person. We... If you had told me I had to pick one thought, it wouldn't be what Tim talks about a lot, which is that aliens are... I don't want to put words in his mouth, but he talks a lot about the idea of aliens

actually being from somewhere else, like far off, you know? But he talks about it from, like, if you adopt a Christ-centric view of the universe and where Christ is the center of everything, we're just a spoke in the wheel, it allows room for that. Now, I come from, I think, and these things are more interdimensional, demonic, old gods,

things like that. If that's true, what I just said, what I think is true, people are experiencing UFOs in the sky, right? Right. We've seen on video pictures physical crafts. If they're coming from another dimension, it means that they're building technology

in another dimension of bringing it here. Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? And so it's like, all right, so is it that far of a stretch? Because what they're bringing here seems very magical, supernatural. Yeah. if what they're bringing here, it seems by video and pictures to be a physical thing.

Right. You know, sometimes it's a light being, but the orbs. Right. Like it looks metallic. Right. Could they build other things

other than UFOs and other dimensions and bring it here? I mean, it's possible. So I just went really weird on, yeah? All of it to go back to say to you

and you're looking into this stuff, have you come across situations where you're scratching your head and it's really challenging you theologically. Sure. Absolutely. I think that's actually what it's meant to do.

Because if you're thinking about there's going to be a great deception, it has to be something that's deep and hard to explain it, theologically. Like you said, enough to where it's kind of like in a courtroom, reasonable doubt, you know, and that's what the enemy wants. So if this is the great deception, let's just say if, like they try to pull off some big alien invasion with Project Bluebeam and who knows what else that they're doing. You know, what would the big result for that? What would their goal be? To me, I think it would be to bring the religions of the world together and to me, to me, move in some type of one world government structure.

But remember Reagan even said, like, it would take, you know, an alien. You know, there's people that have been in elite circles for a long period of time that have said that this has been one of the playbooks of the elite, that they, that they're, you know, that there's whistleblowers that have come out and talked about, you know, this is going to happen, right? So it's just interesting. We're seeing an uptick in this. And now let's go the spiritual side of it.

You know, you have some like CERN, you know, where they're saying that portals are being open and they're saying that something may even come through. What if? Let's just who first of all, where does the money come? Does anybody ever thought about that? That thing is so expensive. Yeah. Where is the money? Who is funding CERN? And then you have all these black budgets and everything, but you just got to wonder like who comes up with the capital to fund something like that. Because this thing's going all the mile kilometers. I mean, real big. And I think they're even building a bigger one now. But they said, I mean, these scientists are on record saying we don't even know what's going to come out. We don't even know if we're speaking, you know. And so, and by the way,

the tunnel opening ceremonies and all the things that were going on around that time, the goddess Shiva. I mean, there's so many different spiritual signs when you think about this. So let me just go on a limb here. But what if there's a technology that's somehow bringing entities through like an end-time thing, you know, as in the days of Noah, because we talk about Genesis 6. Yeah. And obviously there were these, you know, these watchers and these Nephilim and all these things.

So how did that happen? You know, the Bible tells us then if you read the book of Enoch, which is, isn't, you know, obviously a canonized book. Sure. But there's a little bit more explaining there that some people say that's probably what it is, you know, but whether you believe that or not, it's probable. It's certainly it could be the case. I mean, the writers of the New Testament quoted it, right, in Jude.

Yeah, there's, you know. They at least read it. I mean, there's some things about, but that's why they didn't put it in the, in the canonized version, because there were some things that some scholars said were heretical in there. But I think that it would make sense to think that demonic beings would give a technology to people that are channeling them, like Adolf Hitler. Think about it.

He had that bell and he had some kind of interesting technologies. Where they was, I mean, he was a, he was a saintess. Yeah. So were they speak, he was an occultist, you know, so were they speaking to demonic beings that were giving them technology? Is that what's happening now? Are the elites at a high level communicating with some type of demonic force that's giving them information?

You know what I'm saying? I mean, that could be, right? at the end of the age? 100% are. Like, 100% are. Like, we don't go on limbs here.

We just say it. Like, it is what it is. You know? So how bizarre is if that's the reality, like, that is so out there to so many people. Like, you know.

So what you're saying, like with the elites and all that stuff, like we have people, you know, all right, so there's breadcrumbs that get thrown out over time. Right.

And we often forget about it because we live in a society in a culture, which is so fast with, it's information you forget about certain things. One thing that I can't forget about is the fact that we have the Hillary Clinton emails and in one of her emails, now they believe that the name that sent this email was an alias used by Hillary because of the frequency out of her email server, this name was used. But whoever this was, whether it was her or somebody else on her server,

emailed and all we have is the subject line. Actually, I think I have it here on my phone because I'm weird like that. Let me just see if I can pull it up here. Because it's, if I can find it real quick here, here we go. So all we have is the subject line. We don't have the actual email. And it says here, it's small print, requesting documents pertaining to the resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh, the location of his body and the location of the buried Nephilim. Densura Sangar Sangar

like in a Hillary Clinton email in her emails that we from the private server that she had sure sure so like

that that like what you talk about the one that was bleached that we never could see exactly exactly and so like you talk about

like these elites and stuff having access to this information and things like 100% like 100 the WikiLeaks was so I mean so much came out

in that That's why, you know, it was such a disruption. Yeah. Look at Epstein and now you mentioned P. Diddy. I mean, these are all kind of. Yeah. Do you think that the P. Diddy thing is directly connected to Epstein? Or do you think that it's just like two of the similar type guys operating in high-powered positions?

I mean, I could tell you what, like, some of the commentators are saying, which would make sense. But, you know, some people have said that like the Epstein thing was like an, you know, an operation to have information on everybody. Yeah. I don't know necessarily that was what was going on with P. Diddy, but I don't know. If that would make sense, too. I mean, did he's just a sick son of a gun. I think more probably along those lines. Just the evil in the, in the Hollywood world that's coming out of how deep it is, you know,

and that kind of thing is happening. But I don't know if it was like some operation. I mean, I think the other one's more probable. Did you hear, I think it just came out recently. Yeah, it did because did you hear about Jamie Fox with this whole thing? I believe that. Yeah. Yeah, like, from what I understand, that's why P. Diddy's addressed it because he reported

them to, for the people listening right now, supposedly, and I haven't seen a special, but Jamie Fox said in his special on Netflix, I think it is, that he was poisoned by P. Diddy. I heard that. And he called the FBI on P. Diddy. Wow. And now people are like, well, is that a joke or whatever? And somebody, I was listening to somebody talk about this, and they made a good point. And the point was, even if Pete, he's in jail right now and he's, you know, being in trouble for all this stuff, to lie about that and to fame somebody if it didn't happen, I think he could probably still sue you.

Right. You know? There's legal action. So, like, I just, I don't know, given the information we have, I would, I tend to be, because, like, Jimmy Fox was, I think in 2023 had that mysterious illness. everybody was saying, oh, the vaccine, the vaccine, vaccine, maybe he was poisoned by Diddy? Wouldn't be that far out there to believe that these days, right? I mean, look at the Hillary Clinton situation with all people around her.

I mean, all coincident. I mean, this has been going on for a long time, you know, so I think there's an exposure that's happening right now. Yeah. And I think that, again, is the Lord. You know, if this country were to have a revival as new life, that means we got to go back to our first love, right? Let's say we do that.

If my people, right, you're called by my name, humble themselves and pray. Is that the whole country has to do that? that. Not really. It's actually the church, the people of God. So if the church says, you know what, let's get out of the gimmicks. Let's get out of the church growth strategies. Back to the real stuff. Let's really seek the heart of God. The whole nation would change because the church is like the heartbeat of the nation. You know what I'm saying? We're the conscience of the nation. And that we're supposed to be the head and not the tail. You know, so it's like, I think that everything is manifesting. There's a spirit of Antichrist that's

rising. And we're going to see things that are so bizarre. so wild that it's almost like we're not even able to believe our eyes, you know. But at the same time, there's going to be this powerful move of God, this end time revival where miracles and signs and wonders are happening. And so it's almost like these two simultaneous revolutions. You got this crazy situation. Everybody feels it. Like, you know, even the last couple of years, like the level of like, you know, you just feel like something's going on in the world.

You know, everybody feels it. That's why people are buying Bibles. That's why people are hungry. because they're like something's going on, you know? I mean, we feel like it's the end of the world. You know what I'm saying? I think humanity is just, and it's this crazy two simultaneous revolution. So which one are we going to be a part of?

It's the final countdown. That's what it feels like. It's like, oh, let's watch this epic battle. No, and you mentioned about the record, I think this is before we're recording as well, but you mentioned about how there was a record, there's record sales in Bible buying right now. And I even see it, like, my own friends. Like I have, I have a friend that just wasn't a Christian. Right. And I remember this was

a couple years ago. He's like, yeah, I went out and bought a couple of Bibles. I'm like, really? And he's like, yeah, I bought a new King James, a King James, and this, that, and the other. And he's like, I think we're just going to start reading it. I'm like, okay. And, and so I just, you know, he starts reading it. And over time, he's asking questions and we have, we've always had conversations about it. Yeah, yeah. And he would say things that, you know, I would have rebuttals on kind of thing. Right.

And then he got the Bibles and then he's reading. And I'm just, you know, like, I'm not like, hey, have you read your Bible this morning? I'm just, you know, whenever he brings it up, we talk. Right. Years go by. And then about a year ago, I'd say, we're talking on the phone. And he says something about, you know, the Bible or whatever. And then he goes, there's a pause.

And he's like, well, I guess I'm a Christian now. I was like, awesome, man. Yeah, welcome. But it's that, it's that hunger and people are just finding themselves buying Bibles and just looking for answers. And they're like, listen, today's modern culture and society doesn't seem to be fulfilling me. It doesn't seem to be giving me the answers that I feel in my gutter out there.

So if it's today's modern society not fulfilling, maybe the societies in ancient days of the past will have that answer. I think that's the underlying motivations with that. And people are looking to ancient scriptures. They're looking to ancient knowledge. That's why I think they're so fascinated with the idea, like, where did the, where do the pyramids come from? Why are there pyramids all over the world? Sure.

You know, and all this ancient idea. Was there advanced technology back then? Lass. All of that, right? It's because they want to know where we came from. Right. That's probably like one of the most ultimate questions. we have as humanity.

Where did this all come from? We understand the logic of things. Like I had a beginning because something happened, you know, 39 years ago, you know? Like everything has a beginning. Where did all this actually begin? Right. Like, well, there was just this big bang and nothing was there.

But nothing is still something. You have to have more faith to believe that. Where did all of this come from? And then it's like with these age-old questions that people are hungry for, you know? And you were saying... The fire. Several things.

You're preaching over there. Am I? I'm just talking. More than a lot of preachers. I'm just talking, man. I'm not preaching. Don't put that on me on. You know what it is, though?

You got a passion because you've had an encounter. And I think what happens is when you see another person that's had an encounter like that, you're like, I get it. You know, that's where I'm at. You know what I'm saying? And so that's what's happening. But let's go to that question. It takes way more faith.

then a Christian needs to have to believe that something came from nothing. I saw somebody they were asking AI. I think it was like chat GPT or something, but they were asking, they said, you know, what do you think about where things came from? In other words, the intelligent designer,

and it started talking about probability factor and how it's way more probable that there's an intelligent being that created, there's a creative, I mean, not even comparable. Yeah. And even AI's coming up with that answer. You know what I'm saying?

But the bottom line is that is the answer. I mean, and then once you realize that, and you tap in to that, that power supply? I mean, talk about wisdom, discernment. That's what you said. Like the word, when you hunger for the word, which is this ancient knowledge that God gave us, it puts you in a position of favor. And you go into a whole other, I mean, as long as you're obedient to God and you follow the calling on your life and you really have a desire to please him, you're a repentant person.

You know, when you do that, what he does, he puts this favor and anointing on your life. And I'm going to tell you right now, you're going to have warfare. Oh, you're going to have warfare. Oh, yeah. It'll be intense. But the thing is, is that God will always be enough. He's more than enough, you know. And he guides your path and he orders your steps and he takes care of your family.

He protects you. And it gives you the wisdom and the strength that you need because the world is crazy and it's on fire. And for us to go forward and to be successful, we have to be spirit-led. So if you're a truth seeker, if you're hungry and you're searching right now, don't even worry about religion. It's about a relationship. It's about a connection with the God of heaven and earth. Yeah. You know, people will let you down, you know.

I think you were mentioned in Piper earlier, you know, and it's like, you know, look, if Piper loves the Lord, he's brethren. There's no denominations in heaven, you know? Right. How we're known, we're known by our love and we're known by our fruit. Yeah. So if we exude the fruit of the spirit, we have the love of God. We have the joy that you spoke about, the peace that passed the understanding.

You're in Christ. You're brethren, you know, and so I don't, you know, I don't align myself with heretics, but, you know, if someone's a brethrenron, I don't ask like, like, are you a Calvinist? Seriously, because in heaven, it's like either make it or you don't. You know what I'm saying? I think we're talking about like this ancient knowledge and stuff. I think there's also, and I've been in this industry for eight years now as a podcaster

where I've been able to, you know, be exposed to people's psyche on this stuff. And there seems to be an interest, a desire for people. And again, a lot of this is underlying. You don't acknowledge it as a thought process. But it seems like there's people, there's this. desire for people, the hunger of knowledge, but to be able to walk, and not in the egotistical way, but to be able to walk around in your everyday life knowing that you know something other people don't. You know, like you walk out, like for me as a truck driver, I used to do deliveries

and you get out of the truck, they unload the truck, and you have somebody signed the paperwork. That person signed the paperwork, like, you kind of, those kind of situations, you kind of want to be like, man, I know, I know what this guy. I know something that this guy doesn't know. Right. You know what I mean? Like, like, like, I know where something, something comes from. this guy, he ain't ready for that, you know? Like, that's what I'm talking about when it comes to these scriptures. Like, like, it is so, and my friend Joel from Free the Rabs podcast, he's been doing a lot of deep dives on like Old Testament and just new, not new, old. The old way of thinking about things, he's bringing it back as new almost, where it's like, it's like, listen, this is how the writer looked at tennis.

And he goes into like, you know, the really wild stuff. Like, did they have, like, supernatural weaponry in the Old Testament, you know? And things like that, you know, like, he goes into things that, like, most of the time in churches, they're not going to be talking about that, you know? Right. But, like, it's, but it's that kind of stuff. Yeah. That I think when people hear it and they learn about it, they walk around, they're like,

man, I know some of them, you know. And there's this desire. there's this desire to just feel like you you're in the know of something that the general people they don't really know about that yet i'll tell them about if they're ready for it you know and that's kind of like where like the old testament scripture even new testament but like these old testament scriptures with like you know i was talking about earlier about the the biblical archaeologist's angle that i'd like to you know have some people on the show for right like imagine if you have a whole file full of evidence

that fire really did come down from the sky. Right, right. You know? Like, and most people in the world don't actually even think about it, let alone believe it. You can walk around and be like, I got something here, you know? And then you're like,

you go to the guy who's, you know, receiving your delivery off the truck, and you're like, hey, man, you know about the fire coming down from sky? What are you talking about? It's like Indiana Jones here, man. Give me five minutes, okay? And then I'll give you the stuff

and you can go look it up yourself, but straight up, the Red Sea parted, bro. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, I feel like that there's that element to the industry that I'm in. Yeah. That, you know. Some of that's going on.

I mean, people are proven. Look at Noah's Ark and some of these things are coming out. Yeah. You know, I mean, the Euphrates drying up. There's things that are happening that people are literally documenting. I mean, that's kind of what folks like yourself. 100%. You're taking it to like, this is actually happening.

Like, look. So, but here's the question. Even if God, like, everything in the Bible is like right there, there's still going to be people that reject it and say that. For sure. Which is so crazy. Because they just don't have eyes to see. And it just trips me out because I'm like, how can you not see this?

Yeah. But there's going to be people like that. And that's the most frustrating thing. It was it, I always get to my seasons. First Corinthians, second Corinthians. I think it's Second Corinthians four, chapter four, verse four, talking about how the enemy has blinded people who are seeing the truth. Yes.

And it's like, that's exactly what it is. It's exactly what it is. But we're talking about sounds like foolishness. They'd rather listen to like what Rachel Maddow says is. truth. You know, I mean, it's like, there's not even any fact. She's out of a job soon, guys. So, take that as your side. It's a big disruption going on. People, their credibility is in the time. I mean, after this election, they can get it. They're just, yeah. Do you think Elon's going to actually buy MSNBC? I think it would be hilarious if he did. It'd be a major troll, right?

Oh, my goodness. But that's how they viewed buying X, a troll. I was going to say, if you could kind of translate what's gone on an X into the news. Like, wow, that would be pretty. I mean, like, since he's bought X, X has been become the, the, number one news source online. And it's like, you know, proves what we're talking about. People are hungry. They're searching for truth.

Now there's availability for free speech. So people are just saying what's on their heart. I honestly think this election was won because of X. I mean, a big factor. Yeah, big time. Huge factor. Because, you know, last election cycle, we didn't have it. Yeah.

No, I, I've been on Twitter back when it was Twitter since, I don't know, since it started. I remember I was in my early 20s. And I'm talking like Trump right now. Yeah. I know. Contagious. But I was in my early 20s and trying to figure out how I was going to pay my bills, right? And this guy at church comes to me.

He's like, hey, I own a business. I think I can help you. I'm like, really? That's great. And stuff. He's like, yeah, just, hey, meet me over here, whatever, whatever, this day, this time. And I'm great. I go on my wife and like, hey, so-and-so at church said that he has a business and he can help us.

And that's great. Right. I sit down with him. and we start talking and he pulls out of his binder and he starts going through some paperwork. I'm like, man, I'm going to get into some management job or something. He's like, have you ever heard of Amway? And I was like, oh, God. I was like, no, what is it?

And that started two years of my life being in an Amway, right? Okay. But, whoa, what was I talking about? How did I get on the Amway thing? What we were just talking about? Jack, do you recall? That was a hard left turn. It was good conversation.

It was a good conversation. What were we just talking about before I brought that up? How it led you how you were being on this journey. Yeah, well, the journey is to take me through a whole other spot. I really forget where we were going. Twitter. Twitter. That's what I was.

So they bring it back around. This happens sometimes. So, yeah, so I remember being on, doing Amway going on Twitter, trying to sell my product on Twitter back in the day. I've been on Twitter for a long time. Right. But it was like an account that was just pretty much dormant until it became X. Yeah, yeah. And it's just like this new fun playground to be. Like I was like, this is actually kind of fun. Exactly. It's kind of my go to now. Yeah. Like I go on there just like I was telling you earlier. Like I went on there and when I was recording with the other guys the other guys the other guys. And just to show them like how the feed is just showing all these UFO invasion stuff right now, you know, which. It's trending. Let's take another hard turn here.

What do you think about that? So, like, the whole, the whole, are you, you familiar with this whole prophecy that came out with the Trump and Rogan thing? Yes. So, did I talk about it on the show? Let me just recap for the people listening, just in case. But essentially, in 2009, Cliff High, who is a computer scientist, guys, I tried getting him on the show. He's denied twice. I've seen him on other people's shows, but whatever reason he doesn't like the confessionals, you know?

He must think it's Catholic or something. But I tried getting him on the show to talk about this because in 2009, he had some kind of algorithm that predicted Rogan and Trump sitting down and having an interview on TV, which obviously was the podcast. And that was supposed to be a triggering event. 39 days later, a UFO invasion was supposed to start. That's December 3rd, which was yesterday. Right. And yesterday, it started actually December 2nd. like it started popping off.

But then December 3rd, like there was just tons of UFO videos. True story. Flying around. What do you think about all that stuff? Well, I mean, when you have an anticipation of something like that, you know, now on social media, it's like we can kind of create, you know, the anticipations. You got to be careful with that, you know, because there's so much AI, there's so much, I mean, what's even real?

You know, it's hard to even tell with some of these videos, right? So you got to take all that into account. But I do think they're building up to something. And I think this is part of that to where it's going to be like in our face more and more. And they'll probably just bring it over major cities and things like that. So that so many people see it. And it's like they're not talking about it, but it's like in the zeitgeist of the people. Because obviously all these people are having these, you know, what is that?

Right. So it's like it's building this. You know, so then it's like in the whole rumor gossip mill and then the Twitter spirit. It's just, you know what I'm saying? It's like the whole net. This is how they build a narrative now. Yeah. So what are they building up to?

That's the question. I know. I know. It was, it's interesting that, you know, we have, as far as I, as far as I can recall, it seems like when pardons go out, they go out like the day before a president leaves office. As far as I can recall. Right. The fact that he put out a pardon for his son this early makes me wonder, what's around the corner that you may not be able to pardon? You know? Patel maybe. Right. And so, like, there's a lot of question marks. But, I mean, even on, I think, Thanksgiving, there was UFOs over the Capitol. Yeah. You know, and, I mean, this might be just me and my numbness to this all now at this point.

But, you know, I see people there in past, like, say, 48 hours posting all these videos online and these lights in the sky. And, like, these normies, like, being like, what is that? What is that? And I'm like, yawn, it's a light in the sky, guys. It's flickering. Like, why do you even, like, like, what is so, like, give me something. Like, is it like an octopus in the sky? Are we talking like some kind of, because I don't know if you know about the biological UFOs. It's a real thing. I've seen that. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, but like these people, like, they're getting all excited about these lights in the sky. But it's like this collective, collective thing. And what it's like, it's really if there's somebody if, again, quote unquote, if, if, there is somebody behind the scenes pulling the strings, right? They know how to push the certain buttons to get the ball rolling, right? And it's like they have an ability to know the desired outcome and understand that there are 15, 20 steps that need to happen before they get their desired outcome.

It's all war-gamed out. Exactly. And so you kind of see that with this where could it be that in 2009, And this is just me spitballing. I really don't know. But in 2009, Cliff High comes out with this prediction. I don't know what it is. You know?

Like, we don't know. He didn't know. Nobody knew. But the people pushing the buttons behind the scenes, they're looking around, like, oh, this would be convenient to use to push this agenda. Sure. And so they start resurfacing this and stuff because it's like, okay, well, Rogan and Trump did have that interview convenient.

Or maybe it was some kind of algorithmic prediction that came true. You know, all that, right? It's like a self-fulfilling proposition. Two things can be true at the same time, right? It could be, this algorithm thing could be very real, right? Yeah, yeah. And maybe the triggering event is the ones behind the scenes actually pushing the buttons to make the trigger happen. You know, so like we had this prediction happen, which, you know, I don't know how the algorithm worked to come with that prediction.

But maybe it's like, okay, and then 39 days later, this is going to happen because the people operating the shadows are going to make it happen. Yeah, I mean, the quant. I mean, the quantum computers now that are running all these, you know, they could do probabilities. And, I mean, think about the level of technology behind the scenes that we don't even talk about. Yeah. I mean, we're talking about like chat GBT or whatever, but think about like what they actually have. I mean, this is age old at this point. You know what I'm saying?

Oh, yeah. Super computers and the quantum computers. So what are those things right now coming up with? They're predicting the future. Right now they already know. It explodes information because now you have a higher, faster, you know, thinking, you know, this, what they call singularity, when it reaches the point to where it's like beyond the human, has that already happened? I mean, would they tell us if it did? Right.

You know, and so what, you know, this technology is so crazy. It's wild. It could, I mean, think of what the sky is the limit with that, you know, so this is kind of what we're up, you were dealing with. So, so speaking of technology and some, some things that you mentioned earlier, you brought up CERN earlier. And do you got a time for a portal story? Yeah, go for it. So, yeah. So, yeah. I'm sure you're aware of Oak Ridge having a particle accelerator just like CERN. And, you know, there's hundreds, thousands, I don't know, there's a lot of particle accelerators in this world. And I think you're right about the building a larger one.

I think China's trying to build a larger one. Yeah, I heard about that. Which kind of scary, you know. Not that it's, maybe that's China, but the fact that they're building a bigger one, that's scary. Which they said could possibly have many black holes. They don't even know what that means, you know. Yeah. Many black holes.

It's like, okay. You know, over here and Sir, we're trying to open a black hole. hole. This one's going to have many. Or, you know, bigger, bigger black holes. How big does it have to be before, you know? Large. I mean, really, I mean, if you have a black hole, it could be a pin, the size of a hand, and it could have just expanded and start sucking.

Oh, my gosh. Isn't that what they say kind of happened? Yeah. You know. Yeah. But it don't worry. It's controlled. Because I think, I think they said in CERN, they are creating a black hole or something,

but it happens so fast and it dies off. Right. Like, we don't have to. Or, no, it's they didn't do it yet. but they're working towards it. And according to their numbers and their math, that it would be so short-lived that it would just be like, they'll be able to measure it and detect it,

but it won't be turning into anything. How do you know that? How do you know? You've never done it before. Exactly. I'm kind of messing with some pretty dangerous. Right, right. That's not even the Manhattan Project.

That's nothing compared to this. This is like the whole universe. Yeah. We're all over here worried about World War III and nuclear bombs are like, they're opening a tiny black hole that just sucks the whole universe in it in a millisecond. What a crazy time. Right?

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Exactly. And so, you know, we moved here in April of 22. And in July, 4th of July. And our immediate next door neighbors said that there were neighbors down the road holding a 4th July party and everybody in neighborhood came home. So it's like, okay. So we went and we visited. And I don't know anybody.

I'm introducing people and like, what do you do for them? I'm like, uh, uh, how do I say I podcast about weird things, you know, to these new people, you know? Let me look at your podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So my traditional thing is, oh, I work in media. And they're like, oh, well, you know, like news media. No, no, we do documentaries and things. Oh, what kind of documentaries?

Stop asking questions, man. Yeah. So I'm there uncomfortable. and I look over and I see my son playing in a kid's area with another kid and there's a man standing there watching them. Now, things are different here in the South, but in Philly, like if somebody's standing there watching your kid, hey man, what's up? You know? Well, same in L.A. That's how it is.

Like, come on, you're a little weird. Right. Right. We're looking at it. But it turns out he was his son. And he was just watching kids. And so we're talking. And he and I said, you know, what do you do? You know? And he's like, I, I, I, I, work security for Oak Ridge. I'm like, oh, okay, you know, and I knew of Oakridge. You know, I didn't realize how close I was going to live to it. But, you know, I'm trying to be cool and chill with it, you know, because I don't want to ask prying questions. And I said, oh, what kind of things are you securing over there? And he says some different things. And he goes, and, and, and, uh, he goes,

and, uh, from what comes out of portals or something like that. And I was like, really? This guy, this guy has no idea who I am. Right. I didn't tell him what I do for a living. Nothing. And I don't think of myself. And that's the guy's the only thing. I'm like,

he doesn't know who I am. Don't do it. I'm like, I'm like, all these thoughts are going through my head. I'm like, what the heck? You know?

And I'm like, he drank too much. Right. He's drinking. He's drunk. He doesn't, he doesn't know he's saying right now. So a few months goes by,

actually more than a few months. It was October. And one of the people from that cookout had a birthday part. invited me and my wife and family. So we go to this restaurant and they had this big party. And he was there again. Yeah.

And his wife was there. And we had connected that at 4th of July. I was talking to him more and his wife and they're really nice people. And he's getting ready to go downstairs to get some drinks. And I just kind of, like from a distance from across the room, just trying to be, trying to be chill with it. I said, hey man, like what you said on 4th of July about portals and stuff. You're just kidding, right?

And he goes, oh, no, I was sick. serious. And then his wife goes, oh, no, he's serious. And I was like, oh, what? Kind of what we've been saying? Everything came off the rails then because I was like, okay, guys, I'm weird and I'm into this stuff. We need to talk, you know? And there wasn't much to talk about other than he said that through his orientation, he was told that in recent history, which in 2019, there was an article published out of Oak Ridge that the scientists literally said that they, their experiments with this was that they were looking for a mirror universe.

And when everybody started throwing their hands about like, whoa, what the heck? They were like, oh, we were just kidding. And it's like, you're scientists, you're not funny. And the jokes don't exist when you're world. You've said some pretty crazy stuff. Right. Yeah.

So he said that apparently they were successful in opening a portal. And a sound came through that was so terrifying that it left everybody in the room running for their life. Like they were terrified. And so the idea that like something physical came through wasn't told to him as far as I'm concerned. But it was a sound, which is crazy. It's crazy they opened a portal.

And then that a sound came through. So fast forward, one of his coworkers, I'm really, I really enjoy guns. And I think somehow he thought that what I did was gun related. Okay. And one of his co-workers owns a gun range. And so his coworker reached out to me and said, hey, you know, so-and-so says that we should get dinner some time. I'm like, cool. I'm about networking.

I go have dinner with him. And we're just talking about work, what we do, and all that stuff. And just, you know, guys talking and talking about guns. And we realized that we didn't totally understand. why he even suggested we get together, you know? Dinner's over. We go outside. We're standing on the sidewalk. Just kind of small talk before we part ways. And we finally got around to the point of talking about what he does for a living, which he's a coworker. He does security there too. And we were talking and

he goes and portals that open up in the same vein. And I was like, I wasn't going to say anything. Right. But he told me. me the same thing. Are you serious? And he's like, that's what we were told. And I was like, and their training last months to be security. Like, first of all, you and I aren't going to be secure there ever. Ever. Like, we don't have a resume for it. Like, they, to secure that facility, they only hire people top level that have real experience and killing people with precision. Right. Like, and these are high qualified people who then go through months of training to secure this facility because they need to

relearn how to shoot accurately wearing gas masks with a handgun in your offhand. Why? Like, just in case, right? Exactly. And so the fact that you're going through this training and that comes up. Right. And two people confirmed

it to me, maybe they're playing me. But then I come back to this thing of when it first happened, he didn't know who I was. Right, right. So you just offered this information thinking maybe I'm a contract. Maybe I'm a a guy who mows lawns, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so, like, that's my portal story. Well, and that is out there, though, to where a lot of people feel that that that's what's happening there. Yeah. So it's not just, I mean, that's like a confirmation, really. Yeah. From people that actually work there, like, what are these things for? They said they're trying to recreate the Big Bang.

Well, how many times you want to do that? Yeah. Why are you doing that? Yeah. Are you trying to undo something that has been done? You know, and then we go to the God particle. Yeah. You know, which is what they're trying to get to.

Why are they trying to get to that? Because it goes back to it. You can lose everything, but you can't lose your faith. Yeah. So they want to figure out what, they're trying to figure out the scientific version of, you know, what is this God particle? Yeah. And I'm not expecting you to be a scientist for me.

But from what I understand, and I don't totally understand the God particle other than to say, from what I understand, they're searching for this thing called the God particle or the Boggs-Zon something. Right. And what it is from what I understand. and maybe you know more, you can correct me if I'm wrong. It's, they're looking for literally the very essence that makes up all existence. Is that right?

Yeah, there's this, well, they're trying to figure out this other, they call like dark matter, but they're trying to figure out like what this other version, they can't, they can't figure it out yet. So there's like, even in the quantum computing, I was, I was talking to the scientists a while back, and they were saying there's things in the quantum computer that we can't even explain, like how it even works. So that's kind of the level of the technology that it's getting to right now to where it's coming out of, you know, this whole other, where is this technology coming from? It's kind of like an explosion of information. That's where it goes back to like, are they getting it from somewhere? Yeah. Because all of a sudden things are really ramping up, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Do you think that in that same vein of what you're talking stems back to like you brought up Enoch before, you know, nobody's saying that it should be canonized, you know? I went down that road early in the show and stuff. I was like, why isn't it? canonized it and all this stuff. But I just kind of sit back and like, it's not. And there's a lot of smart people in this world that have way more qualifications to make those decisions. And they can't agree on it. I'm not going to have to, like, I'm just going to fall back and trust and have faith that God is in control. But in there, it talks about the fallen angels, teaching humans how to do things that they never were meant to do to know how to do. Exactly. And make up weapons of war.

Right. Right. Right. Right. thankful for the makeup but but it's we see that in an ancient document and we often look at this stuff as like they happened right but why can't it happen still right

like same thing with like the idea of the nephalum so somebody recently I forget who it was had said to me and they weren't being mean or anything but they were just saying like you believe in the Bible and Genesis 6 and all I think yeah and they're like all right so

Noah's Ark happened and the flood happens and you've said and other people say that you know to wipe out these these abomination right yeah and they're like do you think that neflum existed after the flood I'm like yeah numbers 1333 is clear about that and they're like then how did then how did that happen how did they survive the flood and wouldn't God know that that would happen and why didn't he stop it, right? That last question, I don't have a answer for, you know? Yeah. But the first one is very elementary, but I'm like, if it happened once, why can't it happen again? It was, let's put it this way. It was documented once in scripture. Right. But if we don't treat the Bible as an all-encompassing

timeline of all of time. And we look at it more like, this is what God, this is like his, this is what you need to know book. Then it opens up this possibility to say, there are things that happened that maybe we don't even totally understand that would blow our brains that happened that's not in the scripture. And we will never know even it was a possibility until we get to eternity. Yeah. You know? And so like I say that to say, I just think that it happened again. Like I just, I think it happened. Or maybe these things have supernatural abilities,

which I definitely think they do. I do. And could they have just transcended to another realm? Right. Just gone to another realm to exist there. Because when we see that they, that, you know, Enoch, it says that demons are the dead spirits and the Nephilim.

Well, if demons are interdimensional right now, Right. Is it far stretch to say that they could have been interdimensional when before they were quote unquote demons and they were nephalum here on earth? I don't think so. I mean, like, your father is a supernatural being. That's right. And your father's teaching humans how to do supernatural things. You don't think they're going to teach their kids the same thing?

Yeah. You know? That's my elementary way. What do you say? That's just a simple brain of Tony. I mean, there's some things we'll understand. It's like that old song, we'll understand it better by and by. You know, I try, unless I don't have, you know, if I have, you know, if I have, you know, if I have

a biblical way that I could show you it that I would say, but some of these questions, like this type of question, it's really not fully laid out. You know, so we just got to, I mean, I can have assumptions or kind of things that I think. Yeah. But, you know, from a biblical standpoint, it's hard to say in that one. Yeah. Yeah. It's totally hard to say. Yeah.

And that's the thing that, I think that's the thing that terrifies people sometimes, at least for me it does. I used to be scared of putting myself in a situation where people would have a question that I didn't have any answer to. Right. You know? Right. And I just, I guess the older I've gotten the more, I'm just like, I'm more comfortable

with saying, I don't know. And that's a good leader because no one knows everything. You know, like people think because I'm a pastor, I have to know like every verse of the Bible. Like I've read through it a few times, but I remember the whole thing. I mean, you know, so the thing is, is like, to your point, I think a good leader's just like, you know what? Let me look into that.

Let me pray about that. I'll get back to you. But some people think they got to give the answer to everything right away. That's actually not a good leader. If you don't know it, then you're making something. up. Then you're kind of lying. That's even worse, right? It's the worst. Yeah. So a good leader that's seasoned, that's wise, there's going to be things that people ask, and you're like, I don't know, you know, and it's like that. I mean, I could lay out a few

scriptures that would probably, you know, point to the fact that I do think that there could be after the flood, the same as what was before the flood. And I think Pastor Renner feels that way, too. Yeah. So, you know, as the days of Noah, we talked about that earlier, the return of the gods, you know, so I think that's a real probable thing. But, you know, it's like, do I have a whole scriptural path there, no. Yeah. You mentioned about Return of the Gods

and there's a book, Jonathan Kahn's book, The Return of the Gods. Do you, I mean, maybe you don't know. Again, you know,

but what are your thoughts on this idea of like these ancient like little G. Gods. Yeah. Returning. Is this something that like,

and maybe it's a question that's like, all right, how do you actually, Like, when people say that, it's like, what do you mean by that, though? You know, like, because, like, especially in the Christian circles, like, if I say little G, God to you, what do you hear? Do you hear, right, okay? But is it that it's a fake, is it, all right, so is it a fake God?

Is it a divine being that God did create and rebelled? Is it a fallen angel? Is it a demonic spirit? Like there's so many, like, you know what I'm saying? That's a good question. I think that goes back to the Bible says, we don't battle against flesh and blood, but against what, strongholds, principalities.

And this, you know, this whole dark, you know, that we can't see in the natural, but that's happening in the supernatural, right? So I think that's what it is, is that these are strongholds and principalities and very wicked beings that it's kind of like at the end of the age. We're at the end of the end times.

So we're seeing an uptick in the spirit of Antichrist. It's getting the grand finale is about to happen. You know, the bride, you know, is coming home. And so anyway, I think what's happening, you know, is I think that it's, it's this pressure in the spirit. And so, yeah, it's all culminating like we talked about earlier. You know, these things, and we're going to have to understand. Remember in the scripture where it says that the days would have to be cut short? Yeah.

You know, because the things that were, I mean, things that were upon the earth. What things? What things were upon the earth? And what were they talking about? And I think there's going to be wicked, crazy things that we better be ready to see. Yeah. I think the supernatural realm is getting ready to burst at the seams and overflow. And, you know, it's funny because a few months ago, I preached my first sermon at church.

Awesome. And I had no idea what I was doing because it's not podcast. You know, it's totally different. Yeah, start somewhere, right? And let's put this way. I did a sermon on spiritual warfare and the power of prayer, and not one time beginning to the end did I pray with the congregation? I was just like, afterwards I was like, I forgot to pray.

But in that, I did this whole discussion, or discussion, talk, or I hate saying preaching. It makes me feel uncomfortable. I preached a sermon. on Daniel 10. And this idea of spiritual warfare that happened there and the fact that the spiritual warfare didn't exist until Daniel started praying.

He initiated that delay. Like, there was no delay to be had until he started praying. And then the Prince of Persia came and prevented the angel from getting to Daniel and answering his prayer for three weeks. And so, this whole sermon, I started, like, I preached, and I didn't know if it fell on deaf ears,

but it didn't fall in my ears deftly. And I since then have used that sermon in my own life to understand the spiritual warfare that I was going through. Right. And I'm speaking of the supernatural realm and spilling over, I'm really becoming aware that, like, how integrated our act of participation in prayer is to what is happening in the spiritual realm.

I feel like, like, it's almost like we've been taught and teach, we were kind of raised to believe that like, your prayer is like a box that you're supposed to check. And ultimately, because God is an all-powerful being, your prayer doesn't matter about the outcome as much as it is, hey, jump through the hoops, monkey. Make sure you're doing what you're supposed to do. Yeah, exactly.

Good job. You checked it off. Right. You know, because ultimately that prayer doesn't matter. My will be done. And there's something to be said about that. But I really feel like spiritual warfare, because everything's created by God, spiritual warfare, and how it operates and how it works was created by God. And I think he created it for our actual participation.

And when we are participating in spiritual warfare and prayer, it actually activates the spiritual realm in a way that would not have been activated if you didn't pray. You're preaching now. See how that works? That's the fire, brother. So, like, I just feel like I'm coming to this realization, right? And so my prayers have become way more intense and expecting things because I'm praying. I'm expecting there to be activation in the spiritual realm because of this action I'm doing now, right?

And I feel like the more people are aware of that and start doing that, the more of the supernatural realm is going to bust at the seams because evil is happening. And when we're doing our job and actively participating in the spiritual warfare, it will activate the spiritual realm to be able to bust at the seams. And there's a divine war. There's a supernatural war going on that we can't see. And I really think at times we're going to see it. We're going to see it. I think that's what we're starting to experience. Yes. And coming down here today, I was telling you, brother, I, my eyes were puffed. I don't know what just happened. Like, my mouth dry. Like, I don't, I'm like under attack getting here today. I'm like, I'm in spiritual warfare,

but I just press ahead these days, you know. But I'm like, what is it that we're going to talk about that the enemy doesn't want for me to have like an allergic reaction? Like, you know, I was about to call you, bro, and just be like, I don't even know if I can make it. It was that bad. And I said, no, I'm going to press ahead. I'm so glad to do it. Thank you. And I feel like crazy because it's like, I know my eyes are all puffy, but it's like, what am I going to do? You know, but the anointing is here. And what you're speaking about is the heart of God. You know what I'm saying? Like if every believer, we just went from like all the things that are going on in the world to this is all spiritual to okay, if it's spiritual, then there has to be a God. You know, I told you my testimony. You've kind of shared some of your journey, right? We're kind of

putting the pieces all to this final destination of being in the spirit. And when you're in the spirit, you see what's going on. You understand. He gives you revelation. And it goes back to the anointing. And everything in your life is a different perspective because it's no longer we that lives. It's not our vain imaginations. It's not what we're trying to accomplish. It becomes we're about the business of God. And that's what's happening is this culmination of the spirit where God is saying, look, I'm coming back real soon. So at this point, there's no fence sitting. Like you've got to choose a side. It's light or it's darkness. Here's the darkness. And we see how reprimid some of these folks' minds are where they're thinking their dogs.

And I mean, there's some crazy stuff going on in our world right now. And that's demonic. You know, or you step in the light and you're taking a stand for truth, then you're going to be dealing with warfare. And I'm not saying it's going to be easy. But what's going to happen is God's going to give you a revelation and a fire and you're going to find ultimate truth. And that's going to not only satisfy you and give you joy and peace, but it's going to give you the strength that you need to endure in these crazy times. Yeah. You know? I love it. It's not business as usual. You know what I'm saying? No, it's not. It's not. This isn't, this isn't your, what's that phrase? This isn't your grandfather's old old. This isn't your grandfather's Christianity. This isn't like, we're in a new

era. We're in a new era. Things are changing and, and it's unfolding before your eyes. I'm glad you I'm glad you pushed through because that literally, when I said you earlier about how we were going through, we've been going through spiritual warfare and part of his schedule. Right. Like, I had

people who normally wouldn't cancel cancel. Right. And it was for weird things. And, and, and, and, they're probably dealing with warfare too. For sure. Yeah. But, but these are like

name people. Like they, they, I was like, they want to be on the show. Right. You know? And back in August at the conference that we met. Yeah. The first day was a wild day for me.

Like, I was like, I was under spiritual attack. I wasn't feeling the conference. And it really came to, I think, that night, after it was all over the first night, a guy came over who heard me speak and he's like, hey, you know, something about my podcast. I was like, oh, you listen? He's like, no, not really. And it was just like very honest.

I was like, oh, cool. Okay. So he's like, I just heard about your podcast from the stage. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. I did talk about that. And he goes, did you, do you ever have issues with spiritual attack? And I was like, and normally I'm like, nope, I'm good. God put me here.

He's going to protect me. But for whatever reason, it's completely strange. I'm like, yeah. And I don't think I've ever told the whole story on the show. I don't know if I'm ready to yet, but I've been talking about it roughly. I told him, I said, yeah, I have two witches that are after me right now. Wow. And which the next day, Joseph Z, as he was praying for me, saw them and rebuked him and bind them.

But he sets aside and he's like, this is my friend. He is a deliverance minister. And he's like, I want to put in this guy steps forward. He's like, I want to pray a prayer of impartation on you that you would have eyes to see and ears to hear the attack before it comes. And he prays and I felt like, I'm sobbing Jack Stan there. He's like, my brother freaking crying from all these people and stuff. The only I get the more I cry, I don't know. I used to be tough and then I got out of Philly. But so since that prayer, though, I've had eyes to see and ears to hear. And when it comes to the spiritual attack, even maybe not before it comes, but in the middle of it, I'm identifying it, you know?

And the scheduling thing was one of those things where I was like, this is a spiritual attack. And I realized that we were coming under attack with, the schedule and the people that were canceling were conversations like this, you know? And and so I, you know, I pray about it and stuff. And, you know, it's not like the attack stops. Like, like somebody had asked me, because I know I was texting you and I was texting other people when things were going on. And somebody had checked in and said, you know, how are things going? and I said it's kind of hard to tell you because it's not as bad, but I don't know if it's not as bad because my prayers have thwarted the attack and stopped it or if the attack persists and my prayers are shielding me from it.

Either way, I'm not feeling it as much, but I don't know what's happening in the other realm. I don't know what's actually happening. I'm just all I know is I need to keep praying. Yeah, that's it. But I'm glad you pushed through that because I would have just checked. that off is another one of another one, you know? No, I think, I think that what's happening is the conversations that are being had here are awakening folks and they're anointed. And I think the enemy is against that. And we have to press through, like you said, it's kind of like the matrix.

You know, it's not that the attacks stop, but you get better at dealing with them, I think, is what it is. And now you also recognize, okay, this is an attack, you know. And then you press through in prayer. I have intercessors that pray for me, you know, so we have a team. And, you know, we pray for each other. And I think accountability is important, you know, having other brothers and sisters in the Lord that know how to pray. Yeah. But the key is the devil doesn't want us praying.

And prayer is one of the most powerful weapons we have, you know. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I'm finding that out. And, you know, I'm going to ask you a question here. This is not selfish, but it's, it's, it's something new for me. I'm a podcaster. I'm not short of words.

Yeah, yeah. I can talk. All right. You know, it's just what I do. It's a gift God's giving you. Amen. However, I'm starting to find myself during prayer, not being able to talk and speak the way I am here or even how I normally would pray. Yeah.

Even when I'm doing like bedtime prayers with my son, like, I'll be sitting there and I'll be praying and we're praying. We always start out with thanks. We always start out with thanking the Lord for simple things to salvation, right? And then we go into our requests of, you know, asking the Lord to protect us and not just protect us physically tonight, but protect us spiritually tonight, protect us in our dreams, protect us from anything that might approach Benny in his dreams tonight, and all that, because it happens. And so when I'm praying, and not all time, but I am finding it's,

happening more than I'm comfortable with. I find myself having a very hard time taking what I'm trying to say and put it into words. And it's like simple things. Like, you know what? It really happens a lot recently is talking about spiritual warfare. And I'd probably talking more about my personal spiritual warfare than I ever have on my show. I tend to support conversation. People don't understand what goes on behind the scene sometimes. And it's really been crazy recently. The last few months, I've been doing a lot of praying over my house,

walking through my house, praying over it. And especially if something happens, I'll take Ben to school, and then Lindsay will take Jim out of the house, and I just go through the house. And I spend time of prayer, especially, like, if something happens the night before or something.

And when I'm doing that, it's so weird. a very hard time at times rebuking in the name of Jesus. Like, like, it's not like, I can't say the word Jesus, but this, this punch of, of order of words that I feel inside that I want to hit, it's not there. And I'm just like, you know, I just be like, in the name of Jesus. Or I'll be like, I just, I stumble over words. I get them backwards.

words. And like, I found a point where I started yelling it over and over again because it finally hit me. I had a hard time saying, I bind you in the name of Jesus Christ. I had a hard time saying that. And I don't know if my brain's breaking or if it's spiritual. I need you to tell me that. Yeah. No, it is. Thank you, Pastor. You're doing. Hope I could be a health today. You know, that's the thing, though, is that there's oppressive spirits. There's lying spirits. And it is oppressive. That's what we're, when the Bible says we're not battling against flesh and blood,

this is what he's talking about. So it's like you've got to press through and say, Jesus, I need you. Help. I mean, you could say, help. You know, I need you, Lord. And give me the strength. And I feel like in that moment where you call upon his name, something starts shifting, you know, and you do get the power.

But you really got to press ahead because the enemy, if you're in Christ, and you're walking in the anointing and the calling on your life, one of his biggest things against you are going to be to torment you to attack you in that way. You know, torment your mind, oppressive spirits that's trying to attack you spiritually. You know, so it's a battle. But the thing is, in prayer, it's one, you know, and we just, we quote scripture. That's the sword of the spirit. We inquire of the Holy Spirit for a strategy.

Yeah, bind in the name of Jesus, you know, and just, no, you're in a battle. But the Lord, here's the good news, okay, is that it's a fixed fight. we're on the winning team, and it's not like those cartoons where you got sitting on one side and Jesus on there. We got the creator of all things, heaven and earth. Remember when we were talking about how good it's going to be in heaven, the best possible scenario? Well, here's another good thing about being a Christian, okay? It's not even comparable, the God that we serve versus the enemy. Yeah.

You know, so we always can come from a position of strength, but we got to do our part and learn how to fight in the spirit and pray. And then when you do that, you're victorious. Amen. I think we're going to bring it in for a landing. All right. We covered a lot. We covered a lot. We went all over the place.

And if people are still listening right now, I'm sure they're digging it. And we just took them on this like rush, you know? And so we're going to bring this in for a landing for our sake and the audience's sake, for them to breathe a little bit because we hit them. We hit them good today. You're your pastor in Nashville. Yeah. Is there, you're an author and you're a podcaster with Mario Marilla, which, you know, I'm publicly stating, Mario, if you're listening right now, I'd love to talk to you, buddy. He's coming. He's coming.

I'd love to talk to you. My house of yours. I'm good with either, you know? But is there anything else you'd like to point people towards outside of the book, the podcast, I mean, if it's your church if you want to? I mean, we do a Friday night streaming service on social media. We do a Sunday service on social media. And we just teach the Word of God. And we just share about a lot of things where we bring in a lot of the current events to what's happening today. So, I mean, my main thing is if we cross paths, I hope that in the time that we're together, you would grow.

And you'd be more on fire for the Lord. That's my mission as a pastor. Let me just say this. And we really will end it. What you just said, I can speak from experience. I experience that with you. the very first time I met you, I felt like, and I can get kind of, kind of setting in the sense that like, I'm like, you say that, but you don't mean that. You know what I mean? Sure. And, you know, I'm praying for you, brother. Are you really? Are you really? You know? A lot of people's.

Yeah, exactly. But my interaction at the conference with you was very positive. And I was just like, I really like this guy, you know? And then we just so happened to be in the same hotel. We ran to you in the lobby. And we don't have to stand there talking for a while. And then the other couple came over. But in our interactions and stuff, you exchanged information with me.

And you said, you know, just let me know if I can pray for you anything. And you even specifically said, I'm really going to pray for you. And I was like, all right, let me take this guy up on the offer. And you've been, you've been praying for me. And so like what you just said and stuff, I just wanted to confirm, like, you're really all about, you know, connecting with people and leading them to a better life in Christ. That's my heart, man. I'm just a regular guy that's on a mission and the Lord revealed himself to me. And, you know, he's real. So I'm trying to tell people that. And I make mistakes. And of course. I'm not perfect. But, you know, I do. I love Jesus. And, you know, he's real. And I just want everybody to experience what he's done for me, you know. Awesome. Well, Todd Coconutado, man. Appreciate you. All right, my friend. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you for what you're doing.

Keep it up and just know that we're with you, man. I appreciate. Thank you. Sometimes I feel alone when I'm looking at myself because I look down the row for all about those broken nails. So I just try to call. Swerving off the road. I used to do it for the roses adulation so they noticed used to say they weren't my focus line. Jones and for the Jones's things. I know that everything that's going on can start to overwhelm.

Like the war on terror is just a war within ourselves. Are you woke or are you weight? Genuine, are you fake? I'm feeling like I'm sent by UPS with all the tape. These boxes are all made by delusions that we chase, but I'm just staying based. Snakes are slither and they keep it snake. She coming with the cake, but how it's baked is important,

but so is what you bring, because being real ain't acting like a king. I feel I'm spinning round and about to crash. Chaos all around is fresh. Father look at leashes on the collars of these people follow monsters like a magua in the water Then they multiply it's easy to get bitter I'd rather docify I'd rather justify anything but selling me Leave me alone with the mic like a spelling bee-faced but you disagree

I ain't have to change your mind I'm just hoping that you'll listen I'm just hoping that a little bit of what I'm saying We'll make you take a second and see that everything ain't adding up I know it's hard I know it's hard I feel I'm spinning rye Chaos all the rhyme