The Confessionals - 770: The Devil Runs The Finders Club

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

Is a hidden network of ancient beings actively recruiting humans to serve a supernatural agenda? Joined for his third time in studio, Nathan Reynolds explains that The Finders Club is real, and it's n...ot just demons in suits. It's a multi-layered system of occult recruiters, dream hijackers, and spiritual spies operating through bloodlines, ritual trauma, and generational covenants. Children are scouted through school programs. Recruits are chosen by entities that speak through technology. Targets are named by the dead. From the Jason Program to throne rooms under the London Bridge, what looks like myth is a global operation, and the competition for souls is already underway.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comNathan ReynoldsYouTube: @NathanReynoldsWebsite: snatchedfromtheflames.comMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - ImposterYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everyone, before we get to this week's show, this is just your weekly reminder to please continue to pray for my wife, Lindsay. She is battling breast cancer right now, and we're praying for complete healing in Jesus' name. Thank you. Merkel. Media. This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. Well, the giant moves. He's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. And I look over and there are two.
Starting point is 00:01:21 into this bush and I touch air, couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster. Welcome to the show, everybody, listening to The Confessionals Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you have a crazy, wild experience, you want to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is contact at theconfessionalspodcast.com. That's contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, theconfessionalspodcast.com, hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well. Other way it works for me. just get a hold of me. If you want more shows on a weekly basis on an exclusive social media network app, just become a member to the confessionalspodcast.com because we offer our members
Starting point is 00:02:29 their own social media app exclusively through the confessionals where we house all the extra content on. It is a one-stop shop for pure internet list. So go ahead and check it out, the confessionalspodcast.com slash join, become a member and get all that extra stuff today. Now, today we have Nathan Reynolds coming back to the show. He's been on two other times. Today's the third time. He does not need an introduction. He is a legend for the confessionals audience. And he comes back with probably the best recording we've done to date. He and I go down a deep rabbit hole with what he calls the Finders Club, which is essentially shorthand for this network of recruiting supernatural entities, almost like a supernatural trafficking syndicate across. bloodlines, covenants, and dimensional realms. This is essentially what we talked about in episode 692 Dark Shift. There seems to be a group of entities that are competing with one another,
Starting point is 00:03:30 recruiting human beings to work for them. Nathan has firsthand experience of this. So let's get to Nathan and his experience with The Finders Club. Nathan Reynolds here in studio again. How are you, man? Absolutely fired up, Tony. How are you? I'm good, man. Listen, I've had to censor myself with you since you've gotten here because you and I start talking. I'm like, just save it for the show. Because like one of my pet peeves is I hate rehashing conversations because then it requires me to be an actor and pretend I'd never heard this before. You know, so like, I don't be like, oh, that's a great point. I never thought about that. You know, so some of the things you started talking, I was like, eh, just, we'll just, we'll just talk about down the show. Let me make a know that.
Starting point is 00:04:30 That's my sign of don't talk about now. But I don't, and we don't really have a, a huge, you know, grand direction we're going to go in today, which is often with my show. Like, I usually sit down and just talk to people. Um, but I think what would be good is I'm going to do two things here. One, uh, you, all right, a few things. One, I want you to kind of just let people know who maybe are just tuning in for the first time who you are, which a lot of people know who you are. Um, and then I want to jump into where we left off last time you were here. and just let it evolve from there. Because just so the audience knows,
Starting point is 00:05:11 the second interview you and I did, the mics get turned off, we're done. Hey, that was a great show. And then you're like, yeah, you know, these dragons underground. I was like, wait, what? What? And I was like, bro, you buried the lead.
Starting point is 00:05:25 You know, so we're going to, I want to kind of jump in to the deep end with that and just kind of go with that and we'll see where things go. but I don't know if it's possible, but if you can give like a 30,000-foot view of who you are, maybe some things that we covered before,
Starting point is 00:05:43 and then we'll kind of jump into things and see where it goes. Absolutely. All right. Let's dive in. Good luck. We'll try not to hit on the Beyonce loose thread and the queen of bee
Starting point is 00:05:52 and all the high priestesses stuff right now. Okay. We'll put a pin in that, put that in the notes. You're going to have to circle back to the mothers of the fallen. It's going to go some pretty, first of all,
Starting point is 00:06:05 going to have some topics that are extremely dark. You know, we're going to have to talk about the two covenants here, the covenant with death, and we're going to have to talk about a covenant with life, which means we're going to have to expose the covenants with death in a very deep and intimate way. But we're not going to leave people in the pit, you know, we're going to show them the way out, the path of salvation through faith and trust in Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Yeshua or Messiah. It's the only reason I'm alive, first and foremost, because I changed teams, you know. but I was born into a family that absolutely intrinsically has followed a ancient craft of serpent worship, dragon worship. These are people who take the understanding of the supernatural realm with absolute certainty.
Starting point is 00:06:45 They are not deceived as the majority of people into believing that there is not a supernatural realm. They are intrinsically, intimately aware that the world around them, is filled to an overflowing abundance with spiritual things. There are people interacting at any given time with those spirits, whether or not they are under an understanding of it. But my family was under a covenant with the dragon. And because of that, they were his ambassadors on the earth. And they would operate under his dominion and his authority and were given power by him
Starting point is 00:07:25 through the selling of their children, through the giving of their blood, through the giving of their blood through covenant. I was the chosen one out of my family for that process. My family on one side looked very Christian, operated in their daytime life as sincere Christians, but were absolutely Luciferian at night, Rosicrucian, deep-seated luciferians, people that were willing to swear oaths to specific fallen ones, call up their phone numbers, and dial in direct to them to get their instructions on what to do. I was bound up in that cult throughout my life. And I was raised in trauma and in bloodshed and in violence
Starting point is 00:08:09 to create triggers of dissociation, split personalities, to fracture my mind so that I had subspersonalities that could operate between the two realms, one that was much more of a night walker that was trained in this occult pathwork and the keeper of the X, which is the covenant of Apollo, the beast, and then another one that was seeking diligently a path of life and redemption. But my journey was not strange to me until I got out of it, much more so.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I got given what I thought was going to be a path of salvation, which was going in the route of becoming a part of the hunter teams, special kill teams with the United States military. And at the end of that, I saw it was just another, corrupt organization that trafficked the souls of men just like my family did. They just did it without much of the ritual magic side of the equation. And it was a process of undoing of my my identity as a soldier and as a warrior and a path of destruction, suffering and led me to a place of bleed into death on the bottom of my parents' basement and seeing my familiar spirit death come
Starting point is 00:09:21 to harvest my soul. And a man, just a man stood between. him and me and said he's mine, you can't have him. That was a moment where I saw fear in death's eyes for the first time in my life. And I knew that there was a covenant. There was someone in authority who could command death. And that was the turning point of much of my walk in my commitment to which team I was going to be a part of. So I've been on a journey ever since then of trying to cut ties with the occult, trying to cut ties with my family, and raise my new family, my children, my wife and I in a different kingdom, and exposing the works of darkness, confessing my sins before men that I might have salvation and healing. And I believe that's the most effective tool we have
Starting point is 00:10:06 is forgiveness and repentance. And without those two weapons, we are bound in the same fallen state as these wicked watchers that fell. Yeah. So with the life that you lived, upbringing, your deliverance process, was that something that, you know, you had people guide you through, or was that something you work through yourself? Because I know there's people who practice deliverance ministries and there's people who have done deliverance themselves, like on themselves. What'd that look like for you? That's a great question. First and foremost, I sought deliverance out from home. Because I... From your parents? No, sorry. Sorry. From my home where I... I lived with my wife.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Gotcha. After I, when my wife conceived my child, that was a turning point of what are we going to do because this is a freak mutation in my family. This is an ab reaction. A child that should not be, you know, a miracle.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yes. Okay. To be real clear, when I was young, the Knights of Columbus in Lake Havasu City, Arizona deal with human trafficking out of our Lady of the Late Catholic Church that's down there. That's where the headquarters of this was. That's because their goddess that they worshiped the Lady of the Lake had children,
Starting point is 00:11:31 according to their ideologies and their belief, is a goddess called Echidna. And she had children with Hercules, son of Zeus, which is Satan, the dragon. That started the Scythian line of which I'm a descendant of. Those were the god kings that ruled much of Eurasia, Europe, and then invaded here into the Americas and set up their own establishment for these serpent cults. She's the goddess mother, the mother of dragons. That temple where they worship her is where we bring back cut off heads, mutilated hands and make offerings to her. Those priests that were there will castrate boys, not cut their testicles off. They take jewelers pliers and grab the scrotum and crush their epididymus. That's the umbilica cords kind of thing. That's the
Starting point is 00:12:19 ambillicorchords kind of things that come out of your testes. They did that when I was a boy so that I would be damaged goods and not able to turn pubescent before they could get their money's worth out of me because they want boys to stay boys as long as possible. Sounds like computer pan crap. It's atrocious, but it's a way to mark someone like a eunuch. So I had horrific testicular pain and major issues throughout my life that left me crippled. of the worst chronic pain I've ever dealt with in my life. And I had a hope that it would get a lot better when I got married. It got a lot worse. And my wife was a nurse at the time. And she had a better understanding of what was going on. It was initially diagnosed as testicular cancer.
Starting point is 00:13:06 They saw all this damage that was in there. Later on, it took a lot of specialists to figure out all this scar tissue and all this trauma that happened on the epidimus. They didn't want to, they didn't want to do surgery on it. I finally found a doctor that would. And, it helped, it relieved my pain. And it was one of the greatest transformations of my life. I'd be walking along and peeing blood in agony at all different times. I mean, it was crippling. And so that about six, eight months later, my wife did get pregnant. And that was for me, a turning point. For my family, though, they looked at it with this predatory what's in her blood. They did this is a different, it's a mixture. They looked at her as something special then. Yeah, she's the next ex-child.
Starting point is 00:13:47 You know, she's the next keeper of that. So now they look for daughters as breeders. You know, they're looking to renew the line. That's why there's obsession with incest and inbreeding and polygony. You know, they want to purify that line. And I knew what the path of a chosen one was going to be for her. And if I gave her to them through the family trusts, you sign over weeks out of the year to parental rights. And she goes into the system that I went through.
Starting point is 00:14:16 She goes through the trials of Apollo and all this other filth. And so we went to war against that, you know? So deliverance for me was in that stage of my life filled with a lot of fear. Absolutely terrified because I didn't know how to fight them without weapons like you see here. Right. I didn't know how to fight them with spiritual weapons. But I was learning and I was studying people like Dr. Michael Lake, Rob Skiba, Steve. Steve Quayle, Timothy Albarino, L.A. Marzuli, Russ Dizdar. These were my mentors from afar that were
Starting point is 00:14:52 showing me a path of warrior, showing me a path of redemption that did not require me to blow up their houses. And that's where much of my initial deliverance went through, was watching them, seeing what it was. They were saying that I needed to do, taking actions and starting to repent and break covenants and seek restoration in these areas of my life. But that was where the first major areas of deliverance were. I did seek out even Russ Dissdard to pray for me. Tom Dunn, who was working with him, who is still kind of carried a lot of his mantle on through the Black Channel and their ministry, phenomenal frontline warriors. He's the one who laid hands on me and prayed for me, and that's when that happened, what you see over my shoulder, which is where
Starting point is 00:15:36 the hand, the pierced hand of Messiah, ripped that tree, that black tree of death out of my life, and it sprouted the life in his hand. You know, that was my family's old and he's snatching it from the flames that are going to come. I mean, these, these immortals, these fallen ones are going to shrivel up. Zephaniah is very clear the prophecies about the father is going to bring them, the gods, the immortals. He is going to extinguish them, make them shrivel like raisins. He's going to take away their food source, blood, mankind from them. They're going to die like men. I know that's their inns. And deliverance for me has been from prayers of others that have laid hands on me, but the vast majority of
Starting point is 00:16:16 it came from self-deliverance, from laying out what I needed from the father and seeking that out and bringing out the other personalities that have been living with this demonic attachments, these false identities, horrific hells that they were born into. You know, like part of my personality was fractured and created when they were crushing my epidemis. Parts of my personality were created when I was learning how to cut people's fingers off at the joints because they couldn't carry a ring anymore. Those were fractured pieces that needed healing and any demonic transmitted diseases that came along with it needed to be cast out. So I am certain nobody needs another man, woman, or child to authorize deliverance to them. They can find that through the great physician.
Starting point is 00:16:57 They can find that through the power of His Holy Spirit, the Ruach Hakkhodesh working in their life. He commands the heavenly host, not us. So what do you think as far as deliverance goes? I think that there's a lot of people out there that need it and they don't even realize. they don't even know it. Chronic illnesses and things that you just look at and you're like, oh, I'm just sick all the time. This is just the bill of health that I've been given.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I feel like there's room for deliverance in that as well. Anyways, actually, I don't, I didn't want to even go down that road. But I do, I want to backtrack, though, something that you did say. The location, I can't remember what you called and stuff, but where they, they castrate you and stuff. one for the audience that maybe they're new here or something that is 100% part of the splitting and fragmenting is the trauma they put people through trauma and that creates these different personalities and so if you're somebody who feels like there's another part of you that it gets buried a lot or you're just like I feel like I'm a different person at times you might want to
Starting point is 00:18:10 consider what you've been through in life you know Even me. Like, I mean, I grew up in a very bad. Not like, nobody can hold a candle of what you grew up in, right? But like, but like... Lots can. But it doesn't, it doesn't need to. Like, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Like, everybody has trauma in their life that if it goes unchecked, could lead to some kind of fragmenting of your personality. And, like, the environment that I grew up in was very physically violent. And so, like, there, it's just like, there was always... always just part of me that was just sneak up out of nowhere. It's like a totally different person, you know? But that location where they did that to you, is that still around? Yeah, it's still an active Catholic church today that you can walk into. The place where they baptize infants, I dropped the heads of people that they sent me to kill as a child in there. You dropped the heads
Starting point is 00:19:01 of people in that building. You betcha. Wow. That's their sacrifices to the goddess. That's the goddess, these people memorialized it. That's where they crucified people in that chapel. This location then is, of the Lake Catholic Church. Literally, like a front then. Oh, yeah. So it's not. It's a temple to a goddess. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:19:18 This is the same religion. This is the old religions. They all are, she's, the goddess is on the Starbucks cup that everybody's drinking from the cup of demons they all drink out of. That's echidna. That's the same deity. These are the same priest. That's the same temple where people make their, their sacrifices, their money, their time,
Starting point is 00:19:35 their worship, their affections, their adorations. Everybody's still caught up in idolatry. They just have been rebranding it to look scientific. and materialistic, not recognizing that the forms of idolatry that occupy our churches today, whether it's a steeple, it's called a sunpillar in the scriptures that we put on top of our churches, or it's these crosses of desecration to hold their unholy black masses in. These are still the forms of idolatry that these demons feed off of. These fallen ones need worship.
Starting point is 00:20:03 They need the fires of men to kindle in them the ability to keep growing. That iniquity force, that seeing all of the commandments in the scriptures, out and doing the opposite, sinning, builds their iniquity force. So the more they can get people to transgress, the more they can get them to feed their kingdom power, because they have a battery bank that depletes rapidly when they do their lying signs and wonders, when they get witches who are moving things around in objects and performing white witchcraft and healing through their chi and their prana or their virile, that energy, their channeling is from the fallen. And its battery gets depleted over time and must be recharged.
Starting point is 00:20:42 That's really interesting. So, and the recharging comes from... Iniquity, sinning, transgression, breaking the commandments. Sin is the transgression of the Torah, 1st John. That's really interesting because, you know, the part of the understanding is that, you know, sinning separates you from God, which when you're talking about a cosmic war between good and evil God, Satan, and there's way more to it than just that. but the idea of wooing people away from God,
Starting point is 00:21:14 it's like the ultimate goal is not, in my mind, is not to worship Satan as much as not worship God, not to have that relationship with him. And that process is sinning. That's part of this cosmic war. But what you're saying is also, the sinning itself is recharging their battery banks for more transgressions.
Starting point is 00:21:43 That's wow. That's how it's fueled. You know, when someone goes to our lady of the late Catholic Church in Lake Havasu City, there's a sculpture that looks like Mary, right, which is a different deity masquerading, and coiled with a serpent at her feet. That is Satan dwelling with her and creating these children. This is, so when people go there and pray to Mary, they don't understand what they're doing is praying to this goddess, the queen of heaven,
Starting point is 00:22:10 as she's referred to in Jeremiah, we're specifically warned. Don't participate in these activities with these other deities, whether it's Moloch, who is called Nimrod, those deities are real. They're not just some kind of ethereal, floaty cloud thing, concept.
Starting point is 00:22:26 They physically have a form. They exist in actual dominions, rains, cities. They can be visited. They can be visited. You can go and talk to them. And these people who are their priests mediate between the mortals,
Starting point is 00:22:39 the men, the muggles here, and they go and communicate with them and get orders from them. They get prophecies from them. They get directions from them. They have contracts for what their job assignments are, and they take it as seriously as anybody else. They have orders from a shot caller, and they have to follow them. And when you break those, there is retribution. But that power comes from our sin. This is why when someone who steps out of the regular path of life, the regular worldliness of living and begins to seek the father call upon Yahweh while they can
Starting point is 00:23:15 be saved, they begin to call upon the Lord God Almighty and ask for salvation, ask for deliverance and restoration. They get shot to pieces because they have all these doors that have been opened up through sin in their life and sin as of their ancestors, generational curses, oaths that have been sworn. This
Starting point is 00:23:30 iniquity force has been building for generations on their bloodline and should ever one of the children deviate from that, there's held pay. And so that's why if you're generational curse breaker, you're going to suffer tremendously. And the goal of that is deliverance. The goal of that is repentance. It's purging the evil from your midst. It's rooting out the things that are from the other team. You know, smash the physical idols out of your life. Don't cover the silver and gold no matter how valuable they are. Routh them out with
Starting point is 00:24:00 violence. Get that stuff out of you and continue to seek the indwelling of a spirit and find your new identity and your restoration in his scripture. That makes a lot of sense. And kind of what we were talking about before we started recording about kind of stuff that I've been going through over the last year. So it makes a lot of sense that, you know, like for instance, I don't, I've met my biological father once. Okay. And I have zero plans to meet him again. My mom never met her father, her biological father, ever. So we don't know what we come from. And you're talking about, generational curses, doors have been opened up through ancestry. Like, when you start turning, like, I've been open. I'm a Christian the entire time I've done this show. You and I were talking about before we started, the show definitely has changed over the last year or so. In a very, hey, we're in a war, cosmic war, good and evil is real.
Starting point is 00:25:03 The supernatural realm is real. You're in this war, really trying to expose. the supernatural realm in a way that I don't think happens at church on Sundays, usually. But like, I, by stepping into that, which wasn't like just a thing that happened accidentally, like I felt extremely compelled to go that direction to the point that would be disobedient if I wasn't, there have been attack, attack, attack, attack. And so it's interesting, the way you break that down that, you know, throughout my life, but also people that I've never met their lives, there have been doors that opened up. And there's like this legal authority that
Starting point is 00:25:49 they're trying to claim over me. And there's those spiritual attacks that come. I imagine there's probably a lot of people that go through these things a lot. I mean, your life, the way you would describe things and explain things based on your life experiences are far more extreme than any, most people's lived experiences, but the root of the matter is the same. Like, doors are open, whether it's through your family's ritual abuse on the children to just living in a household where there's been abuse. Those are trauma doors that have been opened and allowing these things to get their teeth sunk into you.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And that then, I guess, rolls over into a life of, and you know it's a whole thing it's very complex it is it is we're fighting lawyers yes like we're fighting immortal lawyers like the worst nightmare yeah have to go up against you know what i mean like if you could think of the worst kinds of adversaries yeah it'd be easy if they were just pitchforks and horned dudes it'd be a lot easier very it's it's a lot more nightmaric when the dragon is a legal accuser that's a far different entity and the venom that comes from his fangs is very potent and it's it's hemorrhagic it's a neurotoxin it is absolutely a disruptor of muscle tissue it's a rester and a paralyzer of life it is incredibly potent and it's delicious it is insidiously tasteful
Starting point is 00:27:22 when it's going in but it bites like a viper's fain when it comes out you know that's literally part of the consequences of them worshipping the queen of heaven worship offering their children in fires to mollock to nimrod this is what they were doing even in the wilderness They were carrying the star of Remphan. They were sacrificing their children in the wilderness while eating mana. They'd eat manna, then they'd eat their children. Understand, that's the level of depravity of brokenness that he called this people out of. There's a reason their bodies wasted in the wilderness.
Starting point is 00:27:53 It's a lot more than just they doubted. It's a lot more than that. They carried with them their mighty ones, their gods. They set up and erected their towers for a reason. that these entities are so much more powerful than people can comprehend. And the greatest deception the enemy has accomplished thus far in the last 150 years is to convince people that this, the Bible is not supernatural. They have raped our scriptures of all the supernatural elements in there. Like in Isaiah 13, when you pick up a scripture today, a Bible today, and it says, ostriches are going to dwell there.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And hairy, shaggy goats are going to dwell there. They took away the word sater. They don't want people to know about Pan and the Baphimed and Azazel. They don't want his identity known. They don't want people to think that there's an actual hierarchical structure to these entities. They have names and characters and temples and priests. They take away the ostrich. And they give us the ostrich instead of the siren.
Starting point is 00:28:50 They take away the mermaid-looking creature with serpentine legs coming out of her real land. That's a kid. That's her. And they don't want people to understand. That's what dwells in these places. That's what's in these waters of these lakes. She was, she would, I could throw my blades in water and she would bring them back to me. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:08 That's, that's what she offers. She offers mystically charged magical weapons to warriors. That's, that's the whole Merlin myth. You know, it's not a myth. These are like histories, just repackaged to make them palatable in cultures that it's illegal to talk about it. These people operate under this legal groundwork. And when they need to get their stories out and they want to preserve their legends and their truths, they couch them in mysteries. That's the mystery religion.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's not how the father operates. Yeshua literally said, I've done everything open in the open. You do what you do in secret. That's a different kingdom. And I was a guardian of the secrets for these families. So I witnessed their oaths, their vows, their ceremonies. I was there brought in to watch them, married children to monsters, to people that looked like men and creatures that were not mankind.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I had to bear witness to these atrocities. I had to see people I loved in their pubescent bloom be ravaged and then watch people take skull cups, the top head of a skull, catch that blood and drink it. That's the filth these people are engaging in. It's not just some kind of abominations. The scriptures are explicit about this stuff for a reason. It's shameful to talk about these things. However, this is the reality of what people's lives are wed to. So when your mom, who gives birth to you was conceiving you during that, yeah, you got some demonic stuff coming, son. Yeah. You know, there's a reason some people are just their lives or train wrecks all the time because they're dealing with that at their origin. They don't know they're a moon child. They have no idea that they were conjured during a Babylonian ritual. But that stuff carries on and then they have children who have children. And if you look at the branches of that tree behind me,
Starting point is 00:30:54 it doesn't take long until you have a lot of ancestors. And that iniquity feeds like an IV line, like the circulatory system, back to the devil, the dragon himself. All of it ultimately goes through his kingdom, his city in the sky. That's his reign. So this is why I love talking with you, man. I do. I miss this. I was dry. I was dry. I need my cup filled up. Because you say things that I'm like, so coming in the day, I was like, all right, well, I have an idea this way, this way, this way. we'll take the conversation. And I'm like, nope, throw it all out. Just let it rock.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So you brought up a couple things here that I want to kind of reverse on because, especially with the audience that we have, like, I know they're interested and curious as to what you just said. So you're talking about mermaids, right? So I have a friend of mine who hopefully soon will be in studio talking about his run-ins with mermaids all over the world. And it's not that he was interacting with him like you were. he,
Starting point is 00:31:58 God has just given him the eyes to see. And it's like he sees, he has it on video. I've seen the video. You see this humanoid head peeking out of the water, broad daylight, I think off the coast of California. And I think off the coast,
Starting point is 00:32:12 California, I don't remember where it was. Anyways, it goes down and right, when it goes down, this big flipper comes up. Like literally manifestation of your classic idea of like a mermaid.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And then there's, There's also the spiritual side of those things. But maybe you could go into what you referenced about throwing a weapon into the water, bringing back supernaturally charged. And what that looks like, maybe talk about who or what that is doing that. You referenced the siren. But also you hit on the idea of the mixture of monster and what I think you said the way you said, perceived to be human, kind of that mixture.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Are we talking about basically, you know, Genesis 6 happening today? Is that what you're talking about? The idea of like mingling of seeds? Well, let's break that up into two parts. Please, because I get lost in the weeds on the mermaid stuff, circle me back. I'll try to remember. We got Jack as the backup. Jack will have to.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Jack's got back up. Thanks, Jack. There's a strong likelihood. I won't remember. Crazy stuff. Okay. So children that come from, this is why bloodlines in these families are guarded. They actually matter.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Most of us are raised in a culture where it's irrelevant who your dad is beyond what's on your last name when you fill out forms. That's Western American culture. The families guard their covenant of their seed line because they have a ranking structure within a, a actual hierarchy. They physically sit on a big family tree on a branch that that's their their rights. They're patriarchal or matriarchical. Some are children of motherhoods and others are children's of fatherhoods. And they have different ways of operating and following. There's mothers of darkness, which comes down through a very different sectarian line that's often associated with Azizel and Baphimed and this kind of stuff. And then they're, or dragon
Starting point is 00:34:20 worship, then there's patriarchal ones where they're just following down the father's lineage. So the mothers of the fallen, the mothers of darkness and dragons, they look after their children and custodians. This is what's called a familiar spirit, family spirit. But there is a physical right that a child who comes from the actual bloodline of these nobility has to interact with them that outsiders do not have. This is why certain people can enter a secret society and be advanced in rank and elevated at an extremely rapid pace because they physically have proofing in their bloodline that they've gone through heraldic proofing to verify they have claim to this specific individual. Without that, you're not going to be granted access to these
Starting point is 00:35:14 higher rituals. These rituals require you to be able to produce blood that has that seed in it. My contention is that seed more often than not is a marker in the spiritual realm that unlocks the doors to these spirits to have access to your life. So when people go in and they invite these spirits in, they swear these oaths like the, oh, one of the rituals that they'll use for this. The worshipful master, he wears a, like, it looks like the eye of Horace, and he's got a blue eye in the center of it. And, uh, and they basically, the initiate or the one who's trying to come into it, he sees him a sheet of paper held up and he can't read it. They tell him to read it. He can't read it. And he, uh, it's blank. But basically he, he asks him a way of seeing, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:06 basically I'm blind. I can't see, you know. And he has in place the initiate. his hand on that symbol on the eye. This is the eye of raw, right? This is the dragon. This is a zazel. He places his eye on there. And then he says, now basically, I give you your sight. That's the fire that they're all obsessed with these luciferians. It's the ability to see in the darkness where the masses cannot see, see behind the veil. Then they replace, turn him around and he sees paper with all this writing on it from these spells, these incantations. And now he's been given the gift of sight. That, that ritual is a blinding to that man because now he has bound himself in iniquity to Satan. He has now pledged his fidelity to the dragon and the vision
Starting point is 00:36:56 that he's been given is only going to come through the scales of the dragon. Physical things that go onto people's eyes and augment their vision so they can see into the spiritual realm and they can see into the ultraviolet. They can see into a frame of light that are, Our human eyes are not given for a reason. The father banned us from that in the garden because he loves us. And he does not want us to dabble with demons. It's not for us. He has heavenly hosts that are more than capable of dealing with these things.
Starting point is 00:37:26 We don't need to be shooting ourselves off into astral planes to make war. It's a very specific design that he made us for. Dang right. We got a great priesthood job to do here. And it's more than enough work to do on this earth. He's got his guys to do that labor for us. But when that opening of the eye happens, that person now has in their bloodline, in their union, a door that's propped open to the kingdom of darkness. And if his son tries to break out of it and take the path of redemption and deliverance, all of that comes after him.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Well, there's similar initiations that take place with those that have a heraldry to the mothers. They are protected in battle by her. This is what goes to a lot of the ideas surrounding God's coming down and helping men when they're fighting. She, Akidna has this ability to go through bodies of water. She can teleport herself into bodies of water all over the world at any given time. It's like a kind of a false omnipresence. But if you are caught up in a situation, you need a weapon. If you've made an offering to her, which is what it is, is a sacrifice to her of one of your weapons of war,
Starting point is 00:38:37 she will give it back to you at a time of your distress or the time that you call upon her. However, the pregnant pause on the end of that is you must return it with blood. So when you send it back to her, it's got to be bathed in the blood of your enemies. And this is literally, once I go back to, they need that to live. They need that to live under the London Bridge where these chambers are set up, where the dragon would come and these other entities would come. They had slits between the cement so that the blood would go down into Lake Havasu City, lake to impregnate the waters, to feed the goddess, and to give the feeding to the dragon. That's the defiling act of what's happening and why it's so powerful when people begin to pray
Starting point is 00:39:21 and ask the Father to forgive the sins that have been committed in this place, to break the power of iniquity, to forgive the sins of our ancestors all the way back to Adam. Because at the end of the day, no matter what kind of womb we were grown in or came from, we can still petition the Creator to apply the blood of Yeshua. it to go all the way retroactively to undo the workings of these wicked ones. And that is the weapon of mass destruction against their kingdom. That's how you rip the tree up by its roots. So you feel free to keep going in any direction you want.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I just want to clarify because you just said something that I recently have been seeing people. I don't know where I've seen it. Maybe it's been brought to me that we get emails about it or something. but we got to stop for a second and just clarify to people so they understand that the things that we're talking about can be undone through the blood of Jesus Christ. So like I don't remember what episode it was, but recently I had done an episode with somebody and something was said that made people feel like, wait, are you telling me there's no hope for me? And it's like, no, I would never say that. And I operate an assumption that you understand.
Starting point is 00:40:34 that. So I would just, I just want to put it out there for people, some of the things you're saying and stuff, like if they feel like they're falling the same line, like, there is absolutely redemption available. And you've been either brought up or even just in a spiritual sense, brought up, manipulated to believe that's not possible. I mean, the times you hear it, people say, you know, you talk to somebody, you're like, hey, man, well, this is my life. So you're like, hey man can't talk you about Jesus and they're like well Jesus can't say me I've done a lot of bad things and it's like that's a lie whether you've learned that from parents or grandparents to the demonic entities that have their teeth in your shoulder that's a lie and so there's redemption
Starting point is 00:41:18 for everybody and I just wanted to say that because it made me think recently we had that and I was like I'd never want to paint a picture for somebody to think that they couldn't be redeemed you know so anyways I don't know if I just have to hijacked. That's so good. The best thing you can hijack for us is the gospel to every creature. Mark 16. He said, go therefore into all the nations and preach the gospel of the kingdom to every creature. Some of us don't believe we are humans. Some of us are radically convinced. We are irredeemable. That's what I think it was. I think it was the idea of RH negative bloodline being a Nephone type. There's all that stuff in there. Yeah. But what about clones? What do you do with clones and what do you do with
Starting point is 00:41:58 people that were genetically engineered. What do you do with transhuman? What do you do with the people that are hybrids? Like, these are people I talk to. I talk to guys who are actively consuming blood to live. You know, I'm trying to minister to that. They're active vampires. They're real vampires. Like, they're not human. Yeah. They're not. They have humanity. Were they human at one time? They have humanity, right? But they also are carrying a completely different set of genetics. That's not from man. This is, there are the sons of the fallen still exist here. And some of them just have bastard sons that don't know who they are, many of them. This is why 23 and me and Ancestry.com gets billions of dollars from Mormons and from secret societies to finance the collection
Starting point is 00:42:38 force of looking for their sons. They're looking for their children. Their terrain mapping the environment before they harvest us. That's what they're looking for. There is a path of deliverance and redemption for anything that desires forgiveness, that desires to be in a covenant with the creator, Yahoo, they can have that relationship back with him. No matter what you've done, no matter what you've been through, no matter what's happened to you, there is a path of salvation because the blood of the lamb, the words of our testimony are the most powerful weapons that we have been given as soon as we are set free from the fear of death and holding on to our lives. I had to be willing to let go of what I was promised. I went through hell over and over and over and
Starting point is 00:43:25 over and over again. I watched my family and children who were completely innocent be desecrated. And I watched the people that did it grow in power and praise and get presidential nominations. It breaks you when you witness things like that. It makes you enraged. And I wanted to burn them down. I wanted violence for the rest of my life. And you know what? There's someone who will come along and offer you violence. There's someone who will come along and he came along to me when I was sitting in a sandbox in my parents' house in Flagstaff, Arizona, Patterson Boulevard. It's a little child playing in the sand and a man in a suit walked up and he sat down next to me. And he had a presence on him that was nothing like anything I've ever experienced in this life. It was a man of complete authority.
Starting point is 00:44:19 total confidence, absolute sovereignty. Most people don't interact with kings. They've lost a sense of understanding of what authority and respect looks like embodied. But he had a dominion about him, and I knew he had the kingdom of the earth under his feet. This was the devil sitting next to me, and he looked like an ordinary man, but when he spoke, it was power.
Starting point is 00:44:49 It was beauty. It was elegance. And he offered me power. He offered to complete me. He offered me what my earthly father would never give me, which was freedom. When a slave is too far gone to give up. I was so damaged goods. Every area of my body. There was no innocence left in me. And he offered me away. out. He offered me a key to unlock deliverance that was in a different kingdom and a different covenant. And he drew in the sand next to me, my name, Nathan, but he drew it in Hebrew. And it's noon, tov, noon. That's how you spell it. It looks like almost like a lightning bolt for the noon, and then an X for the tov, and then another lightning bolt. And he said, I'm going to complete the in you and he drew a circle over the X, which was the dragons eating its tail. And he said, you will be my ambassador on this earth. And I wanted that freedom. And I believed he had the power to give me that. And that was my first interaction with the dragon. That was my first understanding of
Starting point is 00:46:26 his character and his identity because the promise that he gave me there was exactly what I needed was what I wanted. But what I, what I wanted was more than what anything on this earth could give me. I had only known being sold. I had only known what my price was. I sold myself for too short a price because I was so devalued. But later on in my life, the father showed me what that was. He showed me what that other covenant was. And he began to show me and dismantle that work so that his work was left unfinished in my life, no matter what kind of deals people have made with demons, with lawyers, physical kinds, they can be broken. They can be broken. And that devil wasn't done with me. He had another time with me where he came in a very different form. Okay. So we are definitely
Starting point is 00:47:23 not going anywhere else but this. All right. And I want to hear the next form. But this is exactly what I was talking about before we started recording. Jack, am I right? Am I hearing this right? Yeah. So I told you last year, I released an episode that opened up floodgates of spiritual warfare. This is it. Like, so I want to say it's episode 692 and 693.
Starting point is 00:47:56 693, different story, same topic. This is incredible. So I want people to understand, and I'm talking to the audience right now. You obviously hear consider yourself part of the audience. I have been, I'm not good with organization, okay? But I did just hire a manager, so he's going to help me. But I'm terrible with keeping track of things. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to that in one way or another have gone
Starting point is 00:48:34 through a recruitment. And one of the guys sitting at this table started manifesting Lilith. About what, a year ago? We had to cut the cameras. But 692, the listeners probably know this if you don't listen to it. It's about this guy who was a child like you who found himself walking through a cave system. we haven't even touched the underground yet with you. Found himself walking through a cave system.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And it opens up into, this is my recollection. And sometimes I get the stories crossed because I hear very similar things. But it opened up into a large room and there's a man standing there dressed in a suit who is recruiting him to work for him. I have a friend, J.R. in Indiana, who was, as an adult, having sex with his girlfriend. friend, all of a sudden he's gone, walking through a cave system. He gets to his big open room, and he actually hears a voice saying, you're now entering the throne room. A man dressed in a suit, recruiting him to work for him. He rejected. He said no. He found himself back in his bedroom,
Starting point is 00:49:54 and as far as I know, hasn't been recruited since. The kid accepted. And it started this entire life of supernatural warfare. I believe he was operated on by what was labeled by him as angels and Nephlam. I believe Nephlam, fallen angels, more than likely fallen angels. But he was operated on to give special abilities. He's tried to get out of this. I haven't been able to talk to the guy. It was his friend that was relating to story. But he has tried to get out. of this and trying to get out of his what spawned the guy I was talking to his part of the story because this entity came for him. Hey, everyone, from now to July 15th, we're running a sale on the website.
Starting point is 00:51:03 We have select T-shirts on sale like the Alien Hand and Lichen Pack and members. You get access to a discount code that's site wide that will discount each item you purchase. The discount code is available right now in the member. app, and you can go ahead and check out that code. Plug it into the website and get your discount today. What you just described is so similar to what I've heard before. And those are just two people. I have another guy in Indiana who I've never even talked to on the show or anything,
Starting point is 00:51:41 like maybe one day. But he said to me, randomly, before I even released this episode, he was like, I know this is going to sound crazy. But when I was a kid, I was in like some kind of weird realm, lucid dream. and I was recruited by an entity to work for it. I have a guy in British Columbia who's an active witch, who was recruited to work for this entity. There's several I'm missing, but it's a common theme.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And you and I, before we were started talking or recording officially, I started describing this. And maybe what I was describing to you then doesn't match this now, but like you mentioned this idea of Finders Club. and my brain started glitching when you said that because calling it the finders club is probably one of the more accurate ways that I view this and you have no idea dude like
Starting point is 00:52:41 I have yet to find one person who has been recruited by the same entity it's always a different entity and when you called it the finders club it goes right into my line of thinking and what I've been trying to convey to people, which is like, yes, Satan versus God, fallen angels, all this stuff. But there is like levels to this. And if you got, if you, if you're, if you're heavenly angels and you find the will to rebel
Starting point is 00:53:14 against God, I got to think you got an ego enough to think that you're better than your peers. And as much as we're in a war of God versus evil and all that stuff, I think there's sub-wars that are happening that these entities are warring with each other, the Finders Club, trying to pick people, recruit people to come work for them. Change teams. Dude, like, I had no idea how, I didn't, first of all, I didn't even know about, I know for facts, you never mentioned that on another show because that would have triggered me right away. This story that released in October last year, I've held onto for three years. I've had it since I lived in Pennsylvania because I was tracking things down. I've been able to verify so much of this story. And without going into great detail about all that, I want to just bring it back to
Starting point is 00:54:05 like, this is the direction I want to go right now because this story from last October I released and the sub-stories that I've uncovered in what you're saying has been such a molding thing for me in my life to understand how deep the warfare goes. And I mean, I don't understand. Like, I mean, listen, I'm trying to understand. Like, I'm not a theologian and stuff, but I have this, like, bubbling sense, if that makes sense. Like, I don't have the words to articulate what I feel inside about this. But, like, I passionately believe every day I wake up is a day of battle and war that I've been born into. And stories that you just shared and the stories that I just shared are manifestations, visual representations, story representations of what
Starting point is 00:55:02 that war is always. And I need people to understand how serious this is. We talked about the idea of supernatural existence and people not believing it. Like, you have to understand. You have to understand, it doesn't matter what you think. It doesn't matter. This is reality. And the more we get closer to the end, the more the supernatural is going to spill out into this realm. And you will, at some point, have no choice but to understand, to acknowledge that it's real. You said before you sat down, we were talking about the kids and how the kids are going to see things that beyond our wildest dreams. And when you say kids,
Starting point is 00:55:46 I could say my kids, your kids, to their kids, I don't know. But I do know that the future generations are going to experience and be exposed
Starting point is 00:55:55 to the supernatural realm and ways that I only talked about on a podcast. Yeah. It will be their normal. Yeah. It will become their normal. It's all reversing back
Starting point is 00:56:05 to what it used to be. Back to Babel. Dude. So, giving that word vomit to you, I feel free to There's no vomit there, bro. That was pure. I just, I needed to lay that out to you so you hopefully understand where I'm coming from on this.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I've never been recruited. I 100% believe people have been recruited. They are being recruited. It's active. It's happening. And they are trying to come to collect what they believe is theirs. And this initial guy that I talked to about his friend. he tries cutting it off.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I guess he thought he did it right until it wasn't right anymore. And this entity came collecting. I've heard people describe a man in a black suit several times to the point that I have a hard time remembering who described what it was wearing, but a lot of times black description,
Starting point is 00:57:09 it's wearing black or black suit. And I used to think when I first started looking at all this, I was like, what is this entity? Is it Satan? Is it an ancient God? Now I'm coming to understand the man in the black suit or the man dressed in black isn't an entity. It is multiple entities. And I strongly believe that they are in competition with each other, the Finders Club. and you saying Finders Club, like I wrote it down and then you tell me that, I had no idea that,
Starting point is 00:57:45 and maybe the Finders Club is something completely different, but in my brain the way it's connecting, I'm like, that's essentially what these entities are doing. It's like a competition of finding their next slave. Their next ambassador. Perfect way to say. Much different than their next slave. He elevated me from slavery. Do you understand? It's like when a king comes out and sits in a field with a slave, slave. He has something in mind. He has a different agenda than what the slave thinks. What was I thinking about that day versus what was on his mind? If could not be more contrasting, cannot even fathom the disparity between those two mindsets. But what was in my mind was desperation
Starting point is 00:58:30 for justice, willing to do anything to have one shot at one of these persons. And that's perverts. Just, just, I wanted to die killing them. That's it. It's all I wanted. I wanted to die. That, that addiction to death was because the first covenant I entered into was with death. It was with death. Different entity. Critical information. Anubis, anute, Hermes, different entity. The final enemy that is thrown into the lake of fire is death. He will be consumed. That's not happened yet, y'all. entity was my first covenant. Well, that entity was created in the garden. It said for in the wisdom of Solomon, the envy of the devil, death was conceived. That conception point for death came through the
Starting point is 00:59:24 birthing womb of envy, lust, covetousness. So when I saw the devil, I had lust, like lust. when I saw him the second time, I was consumed with lust. Consumed, like I was looking at the most beautiful thing that I had ever seen, regarding it with just a desire to be it, to put it on myself. I was caught up between these two worlds because one side of me was a harbinger of death, but I was being invited to be elevated. to a bigger kingdom, to the dragon's kingdom. And this creates animosity. This creates tension because my familiar spirit, not death himself. I've never witnessed what I believe was the actual entity death.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I believe I only ever interacted with one of his messengers, one of his servants, you know, a spiritual being who had physical powers, but not death. He sent his princes. the devil didn't he came to me and this was an act of love to me it's communicated to me love like i mattered enough that that someone who actually regarded me would sit down and talk to me rather than just confuse me more but when the next time i saw him was in the london bridge and inside the chambers that are beneath it the foundations of it they would set up throne room literal throne room with a black throne and they would that had gold like almost a like a obsidian color black granite but then it had these this fine gold inlay just beautiful and it was like light almost emanated from it it was just beautiful this is under lundercision okay and there's an old world tunnel system to this gathering point that the united states military tapped into back in the 30s and 40s during world war two
Starting point is 01:01:31 when they built what's called site six in Lake Havasu City, Arizona. It wasn't a city at all. It was just a desert, the place near death. That is the cardinal point, a meeting place where the gods, these immortals, physically would meet and have parlay. They would meet and interact there without threat of retribution and violence, that they could have conversations there and make plans and renew covenants or break them at that site. That was a place where they would gather in the desert.
Starting point is 01:02:04 When Site 6 was built, they built in underground infrastructure to supply and resupply United States Army Air Base because the Air Force wasn't there yet. There was a rest and recuperation zone, a secret place where soldiers and pilots could come and rest and recuperate since City. Site 6. Site 6. Lake Havasu. Lake Havasu became Lake from Site 6. Site 6 is what it was named. There was a dot on a map, classified map.
Starting point is 01:02:28 That's all it was. Robert P. McCollock is who bought Site 6 from the military and the state of Arizona. He bought the territory there. There was no lake. They built eventually what's called the Parker Dam. Parker Dam is what feeds the vast majority of water and electricity, not only to Phoenix, but over to Los Angeles. They built an entire tunnel system that takes that bloody, infested water I just described to you. That's what people drink in these cities all over the West Coast that are in deserts. That's what people drink in Phoenix and Tucson. They pump that water and that electricity, which is generated power from that iniquity.
Starting point is 01:03:09 And they literally power up the world. That's their gathering place. That when Robert P. McCollock, he hired a man named C. V. Wood, who is the chief architect who built Disneyland. I was going to say, I knew that. And this intermingles with the Jason projects and the people that are in Southern California that were doing secret scientific experiment projects on children and mind control operations. He literally, his Wikipedia page has been edited since, but it used to literally say he did M.K. experiments on that lake. Robert P. McCollock did. And they built a pleasure island, a little island in Lake Havasu City Lake, which is a sovereign territory of the city of London.
Starting point is 01:03:52 It's an embassy. For ambassadors, different representatives of different nations can go there and are immune from prosecution, just like Disney World is in Florida. It is not United States territory. This is why when Governor DeSantis is trying to enforce taxes, they invoke a clause which says, oh, by the way, we're under the crown. Yes. Yeah, which crown? The red dragon. If you look at the heraldic symbol of the city of London, it is guarded by the red dragon.
Starting point is 01:04:21 That is the financial empire of the world, and they own territories for their ambassadors all over the world. This is one of them. That little place... Site six. Site six, Lake Havasu, Arizona. When you say ambassador, you're talking about... Are we talking about human ambassadors? Are we talking about... Human kind and the spiritual kind.
Starting point is 01:04:45 This is a place for that. They have to meet. Do you understand? You've got to talk. So these are portal locations. There's not phone calls. That they come and meet. It wasn't always phone calls. Remember, they led mankind to build the technology so they could call us. Before this, people interface like this. You had to meet with your ambassador. That's why he calls us in the scriptures ambassadors. He's trying to communicate to us, something that we're divorced from because we're not, most people aren't raised by spies working for the state department and children of the CIA. But when you do, you raise them up, understand.
Starting point is 01:05:20 we are all here, the only reason we live here in this country and this territory and this region is to serve the will of the ambassador, to serve the sovereign that we represent. That's how they operate. It's the same MO. That's why intelligence organizations are all patterned and fractured off of the Kingdom of Darkness's hierarchy, because it's one filled with subterfuge. But in that, when they brought the London Bridge over from the city of London, from Thames River, 80 bodies were to do. discovered under this. You can watch this in the Travel Channel documentary where they go inside the bridge on a ghost hunters episode and you can see these chambers. You can see them talking to spirits that are inside there. You can see these places for yourself. The historian on the channel says that 80 bodies were found including five children because they'd practice enurement. They were burying people alive in the foundation stones to charge the iniquity in the very rocks of the building. How do they define that whole thing then?
Starting point is 01:06:16 They'd call it emnurement in the... Really? It's a technical term. This is like a legal word, bro. Dictionary stuff. This is like real stuff. It's just we are desensitized to it and told this is fairy tales. London Bridge is falling down as a song about something else. But it's about that. If you don't sacrifice your children into the stones, the city's government is going to collapse. This is where the rulers held court. This is where they hung prisoners. This is where they tortured and mutilated people. This is where the cannons of Napoleon's army that were used for bloodshed were melted down and cast into the lights on the bridge. They're still there to the stay. All that got shipped there to be a charged portal. for these meetings. C.V. Wood designed a mind-controlled town that mimicked the city of London. Buckingham Palace's gates are over there, the literal ones. The chariots of the gods, the kings, is literally sitting in the hotel lobby. You walk in there, you're going to find their gods everywhere.
Starting point is 01:07:09 It's a freak show. But the boardwalk that's all there has tunnel systems going up in there that were used for child pornography, that were used for human processing of meat, physical meat and cannibalism products, that that entire shops and facility site there, they called it a travel agency. That's how people could book reservations with children. They're still active today. I went there with Tom Dunnman. We had men, young men, children prostituting themselves to us, still there to this day. Really? Still there. It's not going to anywhere. These people, my grandfather, the Zarnowski's, are still raping and ruining the lives of children. Every freaking day I'm out
Starting point is 01:07:45 here doing this is to try to shine a brilliant light to try to protect the innocents who are still getting victimized. I'm not doing this for me, man. I want to watch those children be set free. I want them to be vindicated. And I want the villains to burn or repent. Amen. You got a little bit of time left, you know? Yeah. But that that dragon who sits over those thrones really meets people there. And that's why he was so inveterated there. this is wild this is fascinating so i i um so london bridge like havassu obviously other locations right these are meeting locations where it we could say the middle ground right so it's like designated ground where we come in our physical they manifest from their place to have these meeting
Starting point is 01:08:47 locations. I'm assuming you had this recruitment and were exposed to these locations after the recruitment? Well, I'd been exposed to some of them before them, but then my family followed the dragon wherever he went around the country. Okay. That was his ambassador. That was my job. I could talk to him. I could hear and discern the tongue of the
Starting point is 01:09:13 Nahash after a ritual that happened in that bridge when I drank his venom. So you could hear him? I could understand him, not hear him. People can hear him. Anybody can hear him. There's a difference between when they speak in their tongue, their dialect. It's literally, it's confusion to us, like normal ears. But I went through very specific rituals with the Ophit.
Starting point is 01:09:38 These are like the serpent priests, very freaking perverse dudes, creeps. Like on a, I've been around freaks. these guys were different things of binding themselves with uh like they were literally bound with snake skin like like to where it was impregnated into their flesh like it was it had become part of their anatomies freak stuff i don't know what the heck they are just a lot of confusing things that were happening with that but they in order to open my ears to hear the tongue of the the hush. They did a ritual where they took me, they pioneered a, in Phoenix. Okay, Phoenix is literally another name for Apollo. That's, that's his capital. He's literally going to rain there.
Starting point is 01:10:28 The beast, when he rises from the bottomless pit, he's going to physically rain in Phoenix, Arizona. People can think what they want with this. The devil is physically going to rain from Denver, Colorado. He's the timekeeper. From Denver or Phoenix? The devil, separate entity, will rain. from Denver, Colorado, or Boulder, depending on which of the two he sets his nest. Every one of us who's watching this today, every one of you is listening to this because a single piece of technology communicates all time to everything from the most advanced nuclear submarine on the bottom of the sea to our little iPhone sitting here, and it broadcasts
Starting point is 01:11:05 everything from National Institutes of Science and Technology in Boulder, Colorado from a special device that sends out a signal, we call it the atomic clock, he follows the timekeepers. There was a time when it was in England. There's a time when it was Greenwich. That was where the timekeeper set up his nest. He is the governor of time. That's his function and his role. And he has this ability to manipulate people's perception of time and their understanding of the future. Because on one side, he's a master manipulator of human behavior. And he can literally bring about problems. by manipulation and coercion and using the prophets of all through media, entertainment, music, empire to bring these things to come to pass. Why is everyone trying to make a lightsaber? Why is everybody trying to build these technologies they've seen in the movies? Because his profits were sent on a mission to put the ideas in the hearts of man, a false fire, to conceive them and bring them forth because he can't do the creative act himself. So he uses and deploys his ambassadors to do that, to distribute the funds to those who are worthy to advance his cause. That's his modus operandi. Apollo has a very different approach because he is still bound. He is not risen. He is in darkness in the bottomless pit and locked up. And if you want to go talk to him, you have to be a carrier of the X, which is the covenant of his kingdom, a child of his throne, and be able to die, go down into the bottomless pit and talk to him. So they literally performed a medical procedure where they packed my body, like a table like this, all surgical steel room.
Starting point is 01:12:45 And it was deep like a bathtub with a drain in the center. And they laid me inside there. And they brought in a group of people dressed in in robes, but nothing special, like dudes, creeps, freaks. But then they brought in a different thing who was completely. completely covered in blood. Like huge quantities of blood. Like enough, like five gallons of five gallon buckets worth of blood.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I know how much blood it takes to cover a person. And he was covered in blood. Like he had stood under a shower and bathed in blood, red, vibrant, fresh blood. And he was not human, not like the others. and then another one of those came in all in blue, like sapphire blue, cold as ice, devoid of life, not charged up whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:13:49 And one stood at my feet and the other stood at my head and they began to bring in this piece of equipment which was huge, like a rolling refrigerator. And they brought it into the side of the table and they hooked me up to an IV and ran my blood into this. machine that was like a similar to a dialysis machine, but different. And then they began to pour
Starting point is 01:14:13 buckets of ice onto my body. Filling up the tub, meanwhile, these guys around are chanting and doing this incantations in the tongue of the Nakhash, which sounds like gibberish, slow motion video that's run backwards. And it's very disturbing. But as they pulled the blood out of my body, I began to go into hypothermia. And then I went into cardiac arrest until they pulled the blood out of my body and we're cooling it down further inside there till I died. And when I died, they were casting me into Shiel. They were casting my spirit down with this ritual to go and speak to Apollo, to go and talk to him. But there's like a, like a, and this, I say it, man, the earth is honeycombed. It's, it is, it is a massive cavernous system of worlds that are down there. And,
Starting point is 01:15:06 And I am familiar with some of them, but nothing like what I saw in here. It was like a sea size space with a cavity that was vast. And I was on one side of it. And there was no way to get across this lake. It was like a pure lake of confusion. You're dead right now? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Biologically dead, spiritually alive. Biologically heart stopped. Whatever else freak is occupying or doing whatever with my body up there. This is a real medical procedure. They actually do this stuff. They pioneered it in Phoenix with these colts. that's where they started doing this procedure form. It's one they used now
Starting point is 01:15:39 for medical procedures on a regular basis. That lake, that boundary waters, I could not cross over. And so I called to the dragon to come to me. But it was a, the first dragon that came was black. The second one that came was white.
Starting point is 01:15:57 And one talked in pure confusion, that Tongue the Nahash, and I could not understand him. The white one? The black one. Black one. And the white one had a means of communicating to me normally, like English.
Starting point is 01:16:09 And he offered to me like an egg, but like the sun, bright, glowing. And I ate that and I could understand him. And once I understood him, they took me across this waters of chaos to a literal throne room, a literal palace, all this black stone with that gold inlay. From England, the same thing.
Starting point is 01:16:32 underneath the London Bridge? I think you're describing. Similar, similar throne. Okay. Similar, same stone, I would say. Whatever that stone is, is the same material they're getting out of the earth. Gotcha. Not like, I'm obsessed with stones.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Love them. I hunt them all over this country. Never seen a stone like it before since. I've seen lots of black granite. I've seen lots of obsidians, volcanic glasses, endokinites, all kinds of stuff. Never identified a mineral that's like it. But in there, it was cold and air. empty of of all things you and I would associate with joy like an at like a presence have you ever been in
Starting point is 01:17:10 in a complete soundproof room where there's nothing like nothing and you just that's what it felt like everything I stepped on everywhere I went and there was ultimately a throne room with that Apollo there like a man just a little taller but just a man not dressed up just a man, and he had red priests next to him. And he prophesied to me who he wanted to recruit, who he wanted to be promoted and who he wanted killed. That was what I was given. And I was given his instructions in my mouth. And at that point, I was 33 minutes of this time where they had me out was brought back to life physically and came out of the pit was literally brought out of it and I believe by an angel you know what I don't know what I have no idea dude I don't know just
Starting point is 01:18:16 I don't know something a man lifted me out of it I don't know who he was I don't know his identity but but but a man lifted me from that pit that that when I came out of it I was speaking the tongue of Nahash and they were writing down the interpretation of the tongues, the names, and the places that were given for the people that were to be recruited and the people that were to be killed and the people to be promoted. That's what I went through that ritual to do. That opened my ears to hearing the Nahash. And I have had to deal with them sending people or spirits, even through technology, speaking the tongue of Nahash since. And it's not a language we want. Tongue of the Nahash through technology. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:01 We're going to go there at some point for sure. Heck yeah, man. I have the headphones on the table for a reason because we had some. Exactly. Exactly. Exhibitly preparing me for that conversation. Oh, how perfect. Nathan, I love talking to you, man.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I feel like there's not a whole lot of people in this world that can carry the, that actually can verbalize the. intensity that I feel inside. And so you, you're talking about, I wrote down here, recruited, promoted, killed. Are we talking? That's the finders. That's what I was going to say. That's the finders.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Okay. Finders keepers, losers, weepers. That's their club. Wow. So who do they leave to weep? Widows, orphans, fatherless. and then they recruit their children by the very same hands of the person
Starting point is 01:20:03 that killed their father. That kind of perversion. So, all right. If I'm trying to identify a finder, would it be Apollo? Would it be you or the ones that you gave that interpretation to? Well, Apollo does not have dominion on the earth now.
Starting point is 01:20:17 He's physically imprisoned in his kingdom. So it'll be one of his minions. He's in the bottomless pit until they unlock him and let him loose. Is he one of the angels from like Jude 1-7, I think, where it's like walked away from the transgressions that they don't he's he's not an angel he is a man who became another thing so he's not like a fallen angel he became an another thing oh you're saying apollo okay so i don't know i don't know the legend not i don't know how to describe it but like the history the history of apollo yeah i mean obviously he goes by dionysis he goes by a lot of
Starting point is 01:20:49 different names remember yahua yahoo his weapon at babel they built a great city which was the throne of Satan, the eye of raw, physical city that he would ascend into the heavens with and live as Mount Olympus, we call it another mythology, physically live in the sky in a cloaked city. That's his city in the sky that you'll see referenced all over, like the death star that's going to come back when the father casts him down to the earth. Woe to you inhabitants of the earth. Because the god of this age has come down, the dragons come down and he has great wrath. He's only got 42 months. But his shot caller on the earth is going to be the beast who rises. That's a positive. It's not some Nikolai Carpathia and Tim Leahy and Jerry B. Jenkins left behind series brainwashed America in the world to think that it's some dude who's going to just show up one day and be real politically active. Not that guy. It's named in the Bible explicitly for a reason. It's not like questionable thing. Death follows him. That's anubis. That's the jackal-headed God. That's the false prophet. It's plainly said in the scriptures. They are going to
Starting point is 01:21:55 come and physically inhabit actual thrones on the earth. The dragon, the devil, Azazel, is going to give his power, his reign over to Apollo. They won't go by these names, right? They'll call them like the traveler. They're going to call
Starting point is 01:22:11 them celestial hosts, these gods, these aliens that have come, the guys who gave us life, thank you, Prometheus, those guys. That'll be much more the narrative that's conducive for their agenda. But these these X-Men, like, they are literally children, bloodline inheritance children from Nimrod, the tower. Others come from
Starting point is 01:22:33 other gods, other immortals that taught the secrets of heaven. It's not always that they had sex with women to inseminate their seed. Sometimes they took their blood, they feed on humans, they get blood in their bodies, and when they run out, it physically runs out of their body, they need to recharge. They can give that blood to people to make them their children. They're children in a different way that circumvents the curse. They're lawyers and they're looking for loopholes. And if they let you drink their blood and not inseminate you, they've got a way out from the judgment. And so that's one of the ways they do it. The other ways they teach mankind how to use specific plant hormones like oxens and cytokines to augment growth. This is where a lot of the
Starting point is 01:23:17 giant's post flood came from is genetic manipulation through the use of plants. Hence why I brought the Plants. Are those going to make me grow big? Some of those will kill you instantly. Some of those will kill you and one of those will kill you very, very, very slowly. I'm not sure if the camera is picking up, no. That'll get it. He's like, Jack, go hunting, Jack. Don't touch some of those. You don't have the immunity I do. I will not. I really strongly recommended. I thought I smelled something different. That's nice. That's the mariposa. That's beautiful love. That's for healing trauma. That's what Y'all gave us for medicine. Those little pink fluffy umbrellas of life. Look at that. It's not going to kill me, right? It's d'allie. No, this is life. It won't kill you if you sniff it even. Okay. But this is, this smells delicious, doesn't it? It does. You'll see these everywhere.
Starting point is 01:24:01 People think of them as weed trees out here, but this is an amazing plant. That that flower, boiled in tea, helps you process emotional trauma straight up. It's like actually helps you to support anxiety, seasonal effective disorder, all the stuff that causes people despair and loneliness and sorrow. This thing's there to just help you heal with that. It's a gift from our creator. All of these are plants. All of these are medicines, even though, yes, one of them is,
Starting point is 01:24:23 super toxic. That's hemlock. It's amazing. We can talk about poisons, but it's sidetracked. Yeah, we are. Go back. And I'm trying to remember where we how do we get sidetracked on that. I don't remember. So we're talking about
Starting point is 01:24:37 the structure. And so what you're painting an image of, though, is the complexity that I lack the verbiage to display. Particularly about the finders and the end times agenda. Yeah, it's like I just, the most simplistic way,
Starting point is 01:24:53 I find to be able to convey to people, because, again, I'm still learning, and it's a lot of, like, inner gut stuff that I have going on, is that it's, I tell people, the supernatural realm is far more complex than you could possibly imagine. And what you're talking about is that. It's like an espionage film that just lives out day and day, day, day and night, you know? These people have very different kingdoms. that they're serving. And that's why they'll try to steal somebody else's star talent. When you wake up in the morning, not you per se.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I mean, yeah, you, but anyway, I'm just talking people in general. Like when you wake up in morning, you'll have to understand that it is go time, war time. It's happening right now. And if you can start adopting this mentality of you are in a fight every day. And you're not going to understand, just like a soldier doesn't understand, the complexity of the war it's fighting in. That's where we find ourselves.
Starting point is 01:25:56 And like, do we think that the guys back in, what, 2002, 2003, when Iraq was really hitting off? Do we think that the soldiers that were over there fighting in that war truly understood what they were fighting in? No, of course not. Of course not. Because it's a need-to-no basis. And so this complexity of this spiritual, supernatural war has levels. And it has levels from manifesting into this realm to subterranean to, you leave. your body because your body's dead and talking to these beings. It's crazy. So like when we talk about
Starting point is 01:26:32 the finders club, is it possible for you to try to, like if you're if you say finders club, what are we talking about? Like are we talking about fallen angels, a mixture of fallen angels and ancient gods? Like what is this or is it just more of like a term of expression club? And it's not really like a club, but I just, I can't get past this idea of hunting for people and recruiting
Starting point is 01:27:03 them to, and maybe it's not always people, you know. But yeah, I guess we can go there and then just let it evolve again. Well, it is a club. It's a club. It's an agency that has
Starting point is 01:27:18 legal authority on the earth. Like, their physical human assets on the earth operate as covert agents do in an enemy in what's called a non-permissive environment so they are trained physically to operate as a spy because what they're doing is physically illegal in the countries they're doing it in which is taking people out of their current life sometimes very violently sometimes kidnapping it's not always such a gentle invitation Sometimes they are collecting children that have been named in ritual, like what I just described. There's rituals that are done with different deities, different gods being invoked, who have names that come onto the priest's lips, who they go and collect them.
Starting point is 01:28:06 They will steal them, kidnap them, take them by force, and bring them to the coven. This is how children are fed into the finders club. there are other times where they send out recruiters, okay? The recruiter's job is to persuade and make an invitation to somebody who has a positional status that's not often high up in worldly terms. That tends to be somebody that is mid-level in their life. The recruiter. The recruiter.
Starting point is 01:28:41 No, no, the person they recruit is often not at their peak. You know what I'm saying? They're not, they're not on the number one. There's lots of room to growth because you have a, this person's been dealing with lawyers when they're at their peak for a long time. And they've heard lots of lying offers come their way. It's a lot more difficult to impregnate yourself into their life and parasitically feed off of them. They've had to deal with parasites for decades.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Whereas people before they go onto a meteoric rise, they're opening and willing. They're willing to make a deal. They're willing to make a deal. Lots of people today will post videos of them saying, I will sign on the line. I don't, I'll do it. I'll do it. The problem is they will. I got somebody coming in a studio a few weeks that was offered that opportunity.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Yeah. Yeah. It's got consequences, you know, but their job is to bring, they're a headhunter. Their job is to bring in the talent, talent and bring them back to the cult. So this can be different cults. I've seen cults and covens that were operating specifically for the United States military. That's all they brought in talent for the military.
Starting point is 01:29:51 And this starts as children. They send out their finders clubs through programs like Gate, gifted and talented program. That's where they will impregnate finders, psychologists, counselors, school therapists. That will literally be their recruitment hands in the physical organizations of the education system. It's also special eds and the disciplinary side of the equation. That is a place where they are bringing recruitment. Then you have the secret society ambassadors, and their job is to be impregnate themselves into various oathkeeping fraternal and maternal organizations, whether it's the Daughters of the Eastern Star, or whether it's people that are Rosicrucians. They will insidiously sow themselves in like Jesuits do into every one of these, and look and talent scout those that may not know they have bloodline inheritance.
Starting point is 01:30:43 that are privy to them. That bloodline inheritance, remember, is the iniquity. It's a lot deeper on those people because it goes back to the time of the origin point of desecration on their bloodline. That's what they're looking for. It's not because you are a God in their minds. They're looking for you because the battery bank, when we drain you, physically sometimes, when they physically pike you and drain you, is way more potent for a product that they can sell. Spiritually, it enhances their rituals. That recruitment agency is insidiously sewn itself
Starting point is 01:31:16 all over the place. This is the president's spiritual advisor. That's her positioning. That's her positioning. Is to be like Balem was for Pharaoh. That's the magicians that were contending with Moses, his sons.
Starting point is 01:31:32 That's finders for the fallen ones. So that, others will call it the network. That's more of the, maybe more scientific kind of methodology, but in every arena of our society, the finders have impregnated themselves to do their duty,
Starting point is 01:31:49 which at times is silent killing, which at times is active recruitment. And at other times, it's the eradication of a familial line. They just take out the entire family? Every man, woman, and child, animal. Wow. Everything, like, Hrem.
Starting point is 01:32:05 They're going to desecrate it and blot it off the face of the earth. They're not, they're not, they are devotees bro Christians are embarrassingly soft 99% of the time I love being in the body of Messiah but I hated the weakness that I saw there in I did not want to go and join his kingdom because his people were soft weak weak cowards cowards that were scared of demons you gotta be kidding me like bottom wrong with the ladder bro this is like entry level crap this is nothing There is power that is so much mightier.
Starting point is 01:32:43 When I saw the dragon in his form, he was like a god, a god, beautiful, a form of purity, unimaginably like lovely, but very similar to a basilisk lizard, a Nile monitor, and a heel a monster. Like these, he was a blending of kinds. He was like, it, like, looked like the origin point for all reptiles, like all serpents, blizzards. Like, he had features that were attributable to each of them. And when he was in that, that chamber, when I saw him, I was consumed with lust.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Like, I wanted two things. I coveted his fangs and I coveted his armor because he had massive fangs. And I love fangs. They're just so incredible. you can effectively deliver a toxin discreetly where somebody cannot see what is contained therein. Like you don't know what's in a snake's mouth when you see it on the side of the road. Like that feeling you get when you see a snake suddenly appear in front of you and that trepidation where you're like, I don't know, is it venomous?
Starting point is 01:33:54 Is it not? Good question. But it keeps its weapons concealed. That was the form of warfare that I learned was the way of the fang. And so when I saw his fangs exposed, they were dripping like continually, like a goboon viper, just so much venom coming out of these things. Like they couldn't turn off. And it was this, this like gold, yellow fluid that was coming out of it. And there was a guy who physically carried around a bull and was collecting that venom, collecting it and storing it.
Starting point is 01:34:28 But when he spoke, he spoke with such a, like a lyrical psalmist, like beautiful melody as he talked. But I could not hear what he was saying because I couldn't look over his armor. He had plate armor very similar. The closest I've found in mankind is ceramic heat shield tiles, like hexagonal heat shield tiles that were completely clear when he wanted him to be. But they individually moved all over his body. He could orient them and bend light. You know, like a scarab beetle can bend light and make you think you're seeing different colors of the background when it's not changing the color, different than a chameleon. But it was like digital televisions, you know, like he could project what was behind him perfectly to where I was moving.
Starting point is 01:35:18 It was a perfect camouflage. And I was an assassin. I loved killing people silently and in discretion. That, to me, was the ultimate two tools I needed. suit of invisibility and a weapon to deliver perfect poison. So I just lusted for those two things. And those are the things that I wanted. I wanted to pursue that the rest of my life.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I'll serve you as long as you will give me your armor and give me that venom. You know, I met another assassin who was part of the finders club, and he had a sword, a short sword that was a fang of a dragon. And I was like, that's the greatest weapon ever. You got it with you. You got an injectable way of killing people with a time. that is not readily known by man and it's untraceable. And I was just like, oh, this is the greatest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:36:03 That super perverse, I get it. Mine totally corrupt, whatever. But, like, I really wanted those two things. I wanted those things. And that, those were the hooks and the snares that he came to me as. I think he can present himself as anything he wants. You knew what your button for. He knew what, dude, he knew my button so good.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Bro, he pushed him good and long. And he milked me. You know what I'm saying? Like, he milked me until my 20s. Like, that sucks. That's embarrassing all the way into my marriage. You know, like these, these cowards used me as a slave. Even after I was married, they didn't leave me alone. Like, this would have been a very different war if they had not come into my bed and brought
Starting point is 01:36:43 this filth back to my house. Big mistake, you know? I got a lot more on the line now than I did then. At that time, I would have just killed all the people on my list and moved on. And we could have settled debts that way. But now I'm going to do it a totally different way. I'm going to fight the way that he tells me to fight from his scriptures because the word of Yahweh is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing through dividing the soul and the spirit, the bone and the marrow, the joints. It is the discerner of the thoughts and the intentions of the hearts of man.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Every creature is laid bare naked before it. I serve him because he gave me clear instructions. Yahoo Elohim Sevo with the Lord God Almighty. He said, do this and live. You do this and you die. He said, if you try to preserve your life on this earth, you're going to lose it. But if you give up everything, you give up the inheritance, you give up your mother, your father, your family, and your lands, for my name's sake. Yeshua's like, Luke 18, I'll give it back to you in this life and in the age to come more than you could even imagine.
Starting point is 01:37:44 I took these words as promises that were not deceptive, that weren't pushing my buttons. It's like simple. Like these things are sitting on shelves. Yes. plainly openly, not occulted, not encrypted. You know, like these perverts read in backwards Latin that's written in a mere like psychopaths because they're ashamed. They're ruled by their God Leviathan because they're filled with pride and they want to keep it a secret.
Starting point is 01:38:08 And it's just cowards. These are all freaking cowards from the top of the pyramid to the bottom. Every one of these people are nothing but a coward. They fear death. They're filled with the fear of death and they're trying to prolong their judgment. Judgment's coming and he has a name. He is coming riding on a white horse, eyes full of fire, and he will consume them with the breath of his mouth.
Starting point is 01:38:29 And I want to bathe in their blood when they finally reap what they've sown. Man, you got that warrior spirit. I love it. I love it. Okay. So you brought up something that I think we hit on a previous episode, but we might want to just hit on it just as briefly as possible. A lot of a brief with me.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Yeah, which is great. We got long form here, bro. Let's go. I mean, podcasting. So you brought up the fact that they crawled into the bed. And I have an idea of what you're talking about on how they basically overstepped. But if somebody is listening right now, they don't know what that means. Like, we can touch on that.
Starting point is 01:39:15 But I also, and Jack, this might require you to help me remember. Maybe you remember. but I distinctly remember you saying something about speech. And I was like, good thing we have the headphones here, because we're going to listen to sound. Do you have... Oh, about how they affect technology and speak through technology. That's what it was. So I want to go bed first and then we'll go through speak through technology.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Because just yesterday we released an episode. Me and Vicki Joy Anderson, love her dearly. friend of mine. She and I talked about dream hacking. And I was going on some rant.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I didn't even listen to the whole clip. I had so many people tagging me yesterday and the finally last night like I don't know midnight.
Starting point is 01:40:04 I finally hear it. And I'm ranting about something one or another and you hear this voice come through. And it seems
Starting point is 01:40:14 to be pretty intentional. And I wouldn't mind your perspective on it before we move past that whole thing. But let's jump into first off the overstepping that they did. They were operating underneath, you know, this is what we do and we are going to, you know, pull the strings. But the equation had changed for you and you had something else that you were living for that made you do. Basically, you, you pulled. You pulled
Starting point is 01:40:49 the wild card out. I don't think they were expecting that either. But if you could have just explained to people what it was that kind of triggered you to kind of fight back with the word and not do what they, as you said, like if it was under other circumstances, I would have just ran through the list, done, move on. But that was no longer the case. It's still not easy, not to think about that a lot, because I still can see what they're doing. I still have many eyes and ears out there of people who did not step out but are loyal to a different covenant but they've been ordered to stay behind enemy lines and be spies inside the house know what they're still doing and it's disgusting pride blinds people that's the spirit of leviathan leviathan leviathan these are all
Starting point is 01:41:56 the satan this is why they they try to take someone's name and and yokeyotech and you're it to these other gods, to these other entities, and bring you into their dominion because we have what they can't ever receive, which is mercy. We have repentance as a weapon. And they can, they are confounded by it. They are confused by love. Like, they're, they're sincerely confused. You know, like, you ever been dumbfounded? That's a real thing where you're like, I'm kind of struck dumb right now. I feel stupid. What the heck is that? You've encountered something that was so far out your paradigm that you don't have a category for where to put it. Love is that for them. Unadulterated love is toxic to them because it's like someone throwing a smoke grenade into a very tiny room.
Starting point is 01:42:51 It's going to obfuscate their optics. That, what was happening with me by being married to Chelsea was that someone was beginning to open the door of that confusion and flood my inner world with love that was authentic. Her presence in my life was an anchor point to what it is otherwise. I'm a freaking walking hurricane, man. Like, I am a force of unbelievable amounts of chaos when I want to be. I throw confusion all around me when I want to disappear. And when I want to burn bridges, I'm going to cause massive explosions in people's lives all around me so I can disappear when everyone's trying to sort out the mess. That's like to me, I'm more comfortable in the violent home like you described, being raised in. Like that's home to me.
Starting point is 01:43:39 If there's not fights going on in my house, like right now, present tense, like I'm going to stir up something. I'm bored all the time, unless I'm fighting, you know, which is really toxic in a marriage. It sucks. There's a super big problem there on the end of that chain. Ask my children. It sucks. I'm like quite chaotic at times But as I was driving here today
Starting point is 01:43:59 Because I was wrestling with this again Because there's some physical information That I know about about events that are taking place And people that are about to be Eliminated Who ought not die And it's to me feels like it's in my power to save them To intercede to intervene
Starting point is 01:44:16 And I want to badly Save my brothers I have brothers of the blade who bear my mark who are biologically my family, who are being hunted down and exterminated because of what I'm doing here. Or that's what they're trying to convince me of. But I want to go to their aid.
Starting point is 01:44:35 I want to defend them. I want to save them. And I can't. I can't fight that way anymore. And I have to be so careful to not step out aside of what Yahoo has called me to do. Because if I pick up these,
Starting point is 01:44:49 if I go back, man, and I'd start picking up these tools again and I start laying waste to their empire that way, you're in their camp again and you're under their dominion and then they can do whatever the freak they want to you. Makes sense. And my wife is very careful
Starting point is 01:45:03 to lovingly encourage me. Don't go back. Like, he ransomed you out. He bought you out with a great price. The blood of the lamb ransomed you out, purchased you and gave you deliverance. Don't go back. You know, there was a council meeting
Starting point is 01:45:19 that was up in the Appalachian Mountains that I wanted to go to so freaking bad. And I just, I was going to go I wasn't going to tell her, you know? Because I want, I want, I want to save my brothers. I want to tell them my testimony. I want to tell them about the deliverance that's available to them. And I want to rebuke these dragons.
Starting point is 01:45:46 And I got some hemp pants in the mail that day. Super nice. Super nice. I'm an all natural kind of guy. And I've been on a wait list for these hemp pants for like 18 months and they showed up that day. And I was like, Joe Booyah. And they're made for like martial arts. kind of stuff. I was like,
Starting point is 01:46:04 I'm, you know, bro, you know, and they wear black. I never wear black unless I do. The work. Bad day. No, I wear midnight blue. It's a way better color in total darkness. Trust me. Tuck that away, bro. Trust it. It's a pearl. You and I still need to wander around the woods. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. Let's go to the devil's
Starting point is 01:46:20 court house. We'll talk about after we're done recording. The, uh, but I got these pants on and I was like limber as a weasel. I felt fantastic. And I was like, this is what I've been waiting for. It's so dang hard that people can't make hemp pants because I love linen, bro. I love it. I'm a linenite. We started becoming a linenite. Super other level
Starting point is 01:46:38 linenites, right? Linenites, right? Linothorax armor. I'm going to make body armor out of limine. It's savage. I love it. But it's prone to prickles. It hates thorns. It's just savage on briars. You're going to lose. And it's just not tough in the wilderness. You know, that's why the buckskins here, because I'm diving into the forwards looking for this stuff today. But that pants invigorated my soul
Starting point is 01:46:57 with piss and vinegar. And I was like, let's go for it, son. So I was trying to show my children that I could sigh kick savagely with these pants on, right, in the living room. Because, you know, I still like my wife. And I like, I still got it, honey. Watch me throw this wooing. You know, like a third grader showing off to the girls in class. And so I was like, I had this office chair like this, but it's leather. And I was like, I'm going to kick that chair so hard. I'll send it across the room. Be like, prance like a peacock, you know. And so I threw a testing kick at it and was like, that felt so good. And then there was this still calm voice.
Starting point is 01:47:32 in the back of my head that was like, don't kick the chair. Should have listened. But I kicked that chair, dude, as hard as I possibly could. And there was a frame piece inside the cushion. And I hit the top of my foot and just wrecked the top of my foot. Like, broke. I thought I broke my foot. And I was all trying to act cool and not like I was an idiot.
Starting point is 01:47:53 And I was like, I could not want. All part of the plan. Until she's like, oh, that hurt. I just limped to the bathroom. She's like, oh, that hurt so bad. So that was the night. This is June 6. I'll just tell you guys, that's the anniversaries for the Jasons. 06-06.06. That's when Jasons were conceived, many of them.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Okay. And that's the night where they have lots of activation and lots of assignments for hunting and killing and espionage, all this stuff. Because they're in universities and they're in politics. They're all over the place. You know, they're just, they're garbage men too. You know, they're all over. And keep your thought. I just want to clarify for the audience.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Anybody listening. I'm talking to you. When you're talking about the Jasons. We covered it on a pre-secrette scientific group. I think we got to hit it. Jason Boren's not fictionary. So like, that's a thing. It's a real thing.
Starting point is 01:48:37 We hit it on one of the previous episodes. We don't even go down there. I just want to clarify people. There's Jason. There's a subset. There's a much bigger subset of the Jasons, which is children of Jasons. They called the Junior Jason Project. And it's in the hundreds of thousands in schools now where they have infected themselves.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Robert Ballard, former naval intelligence, father admirals, military intelligence and have built out a programming system, a finder's club. and to yoke children with handlers, manipulators, send them through behavioral operating conditioning systems, bring out spies who don't know their spies. That's junior jasons. That's what I was rocked up in. But that's the stuff that's going on in amusement parks and people are like, oh, yeah, take my children at Disneyland. Don't freaking touch that filth, you guys.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Different kingdom. Super real, deadly stuff in there. Anyways, that was the anniversary for the Jason's like my birthday. You know, my children celebrate that as a birthday because for a personality in me, that was my birthday. That's the first time I got to assimilate into life was on that day. That's awkward to explain to people. Normies don't like that stuff. Anyways, complex human. That night, we saw her parents. They were visiting. It was great, but I couldn't freaking walk hardly well. And I was like, back to my head, I'm like, I got to go meet with them. I got to go to the council. I got to go.
Starting point is 01:49:52 I'm one of my blades back. I want to go hunt. It's just being honest, dude. It sounds terrible. Let's say out loud, whatever. Welcome to the tale. Oh, freaking. But there's going to be some consequences for some of these conversations, you know. There's stuff that happens after this ends. It just sucks. But I went home that night and Chelsea was like, why don't you just talk to me? You know, because I was obviously, a lot more of me was around than normal. You know, I was a lot more chatty. And we used to have this thing in marriage, BC days. You remember that before children days? The couples remember this with hardly relonging because the sleep debt gets so real and it's just a vapor in the wind at this point. Right now it's an idea that existed at some point.
Starting point is 01:50:28 That time. You remember when you used to have that with your wife? You guys could just, you know, you weren't co-sleeping. You could just wherever in the house, just be rowdy and run buncheously in love. My routine. That stuff. But we lost a lot of our talking time, her and I, since the chronic illness, since twin babies, moving constantly. You know, and I literally was laying there trying to ice my foot, trying to like get myself ready to go. I'm like, look, and I got to be there by 3.30.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Like, I'm trying to count my hours. And she talked to me. And I just got to talk about all this stuff. I never get to talk to otherwise. and just pour out stuff I've never told anyone and recognize this, this woman in my life is an anchor for my soul because there's still stuff in me that wants to go cause chaos. There's still stuff in me that wants to burn the earth to freaking ashes vehemently. And I have to surrender to a different kingdom.
Starting point is 01:51:23 And the father gave me the gift of a wife to help me be anchored in the right system of man, the right kingdom. And you know what? She has such a gift to me. And my father, back when we were early married on, moved into our house. I was a slave. He asked, I said yes. He moved into the basement of our house. And he began to draw back Jason that out of me. And with it, Nathan and Blade and all these other parts of me that he wanted to use and weaponize
Starting point is 01:51:56 because the finders had a prophecy. dictated to them with my name on it. These people are serious about their business. If you're called back, they're going to hunt you back in. And so when he came to our house, he began to teach people a couple of things that he did too. One of them is really important. He wanted me to go to a doctor, a general practitioner, and get on a drug called New Visual. You ever heard of this? Provisual, any of these things. Does it sound familiar? Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:30 But he coached me on basically what I needed to tell the doctor because he's like, we're going to be keeping you awake day and night because you're going to be working for us. We got to keep this secret. So we're going to put you on a drug called New Vigil. And you're going to tell him you have shift sleep disorder. Go to the doctor. He's going to prescribe you this drug. You're going to take this.
Starting point is 01:52:50 It'll allow you to operate at 100% effectiveness with days without sleep. That's where I heard from last time we were talking that. You told me about this medicine. Yes. There's people, this is a family formulated compounds. Stuff that comes from the biological excretions of humans are used to make this drug. Okay. So it's their family business.
Starting point is 01:53:13 My family profits off that. That, that drug, though, unlocked, bypass the gates and the safeguards that have been built into my system to try to get these other parts of my personality to present themselves so that they could access the information. walking vault of secrets. He want the classified secrets for a lot of the locations of their dumps. That's what my dad wants. Super corrupt individual. He wants to weaponize it. That was what he was trying to access. The man he sent to bring that out of me, we call him TikTok with the clock. He's a hypnotist. And he climbed into the bed with me when my wife was gone and put a large clock next to my ear and began to whisper into my ears programming phrases that had been put in there when I was a child. And so while I was asleep, I began to hear him in my dreams, in my mind.
Starting point is 01:54:11 And when I came to consciousness, it was as if I was back in my memories from when I was created as a boy, as a nine-year-old. And I was then divulging all the information of what he was. wanted to find out about. That crossed the line. Because when I came to consciousness after that, pouring sweat, blood coming out of both of my nostrils, my eyes were burning like I'd been held open and chemically held open for hours, I was filled with rage and wanted vengeance because I know who that man is. And I know where he sleeps at night. And I know where his family lives. And that's real easy to burn.
Starting point is 01:55:00 That's what hemlocks for. Or monkshood. So that's the line they crossed. And I mean, I don't remember the TikTok part of the story. I've never shared that ever publicly. Okay. So, all right. Which just triggered a line of thought in my mind because everything has reason, purpose, naming, all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:55:24 and the idea of the hypnotist, the TikTok, it makes you wonder about the whole TikTok app, you know? It was strange when I saw that name pop up as the name for platform. Or meta. My wife had a dream about Meadows being the name with an Oroboris years and years and years ago. It's really interesting. So the app TikTok was purchased years ago, but it used to be called Musically.
Starting point is 01:55:50 And it was just it was an app where kids did stupid music dances. It was back when I first started the podcast, and I was doing a lot. Are you familiar with Gary Vaynerchuk? No. He's like an entrepreneurial type guy. He's very vulgar, but he's just like, just do it, man. Just do it. Just go and do it.
Starting point is 01:56:10 So I was like in my truck driving a truck trying to build a podcast. I'm like, yes, just do it, you know. But he would talk about this musically app. And he's like, it's social media. Just get on it and do it. I'm like, I'm 30-something years old. I don't want to go on musically. but I was like, I'll give it a shot
Starting point is 01:56:24 and I made some kind of video. I didn't dance, though. I was just in my truck and there was a music thing. I don't know what it was. Anyways. Somebody find that video. Challenge accepted.
Starting point is 01:56:35 It's not embarrassing. I know, but it's still be fun. It's an origin's point. It should be on the wall. It's like your first dollar bill. You know, like put it on the wall, but humble beginnings are good for us. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:45 I bet I posted it. I bet I could find it somewhere. If I can find it, I'll put it. Put it on the wall. I'm not. Ain't no shame in my game. But then that thing just like faded away, whether it was actually a thing or I just didn't care about it. But this new app comes out TikTok.
Starting point is 01:57:05 And I find out that it used to be musically and it was purchased. And now what you're saying, it just makes me like, I wonder if there is a connection. I don't know. Maybe not. But like, what's the point of this TikTok app being called TikTok? Why is it called TikTok? But when you consider this man being called TikTok and him being a hypnotist, well, what does TikTok do? Dude?
Starting point is 01:57:28 Perfectly. It hypnotizes people. The way you scroll, the idea of doom scrolling, I mean, it's not, I wanted to preface this was saying, I don't want to say it's weird in the sense of like, I think you're weird if you do this. It was weird and foreign to me, because all I knew with TikTok was it used to be musically. that's where kids hung out. But this TikTok idea that these grown adults were openly saying how they go on TikTok and they'll be lost for hours. That's hypnotism. You're gone.
Starting point is 01:58:09 You're zoned out. It's taken over your consciousness. And before you know it, hours goes by and you have accomplished nothing. It really, I really find that interesting. And who's the timekeeper? remember who's the guardian of time the dragon he's there to steal your time
Starting point is 01:58:28 this is his kingdom and why does he reward and bless some technology groups and destroy an oblivion and just into oblivion others he is a time bandit principal measure because what you give your time to is what you worship
Starting point is 01:58:49 we don't use this language anymore because our pastors were neutered by finders infiltrating their ranks and teaching them the doctrines of demons rather than the authority and the commandments of the most high. We don't understand why they're stealing our time because the currency of the future is attention, period. It won't be dollar bills. It will be minutes, seconds, that. That's going to be the currency of their kingdom going forward. Whoever can capture the imagination, Walt Disney's motto, capturing the imagination, like you just described so well articulated, that world, that universe that you can escape to for two and a half hours of awesome black mirror staring and gazing. Yes.
Starting point is 01:59:40 In trance, the virtual augmented realities that will soon be given into people. That doctrine, that ideology, that dominion is there often. to the masses. It's going to be delicious. It's going to be pushing their buttons. Because all while they're doomsrolling, something's occupying them. Something's learning about them and building a database of that person to custom cater the offer when it comes.
Starting point is 02:00:09 They're incredible intelligence agency. They are formidably capable. But they hold nothing impale to omniscience, omnipresence. and the author of heaven and earth. Their dad, their father created them. They are not eternal ones. They are immortals. And they're going to have an end date.
Starting point is 02:00:31 They have nothing that holds a candle to the power and the presence of the Holy Spirit. Yahweh Elohim, our creator and his son, Yeshua of Nazareth. The devil bro, in his own books, you want to talk about reading crazy, cryptic, nasty stuff? In his own writings, he commanded him when he was ascending into the sky. he commanded the priest pray the devil raw right raw that's his incarnation at the time zeus is who he's identified in the bible the throne of zeus that's what baroque obama stood on in denver when he was like the throne of pergamum under the white horse when he was enthroned there that's the devil's playplace i'm trying to tell people it's capital new world order giving you all the heads up again right direct fire
Starting point is 02:01:08 seriously but that that throne of zeus he literally sat on it and he commanded his priest to tell his worshippers to pray for protection for him from the two gods of the east. Why is the devil scared of two gods from the east? Who are those gods? Well, I know the story of this prophesied one who would come. He would come from the east. What did the wise men, Daniel's descendants who were carrying the riches of Babylon back to him? What did they say?
Starting point is 02:01:40 We're seeking the king of the Jews. We're seeking a sign from the east. Like, that's the son of righteousness who rose with healing in his wings. That is the heavenly host who he treads and fears. Every time he's fought Michael, he's lost. He tried to fight Michael for the body of Moses like it says in the book of dude. He lost.
Starting point is 02:01:58 He's tried to fight. He's going to fight again. They're going to have another rebellion and he's going to be cast down to the earth. Like, he fears Yeshua terribly. And so his priests are down here cutting themselves, ripping babies apart, sacrificing everything they have to try to build up walls of protection for him to hold up
Starting point is 02:02:15 his little city in the sky. He's He's going to fall, man, and he's going to come down with a great crash and with violence. He's going to execute his will on the earth because he knows his days are short, man. He's going to lose. He's a defeated enemy. Should give people hope. Absolutely. Hey, everyone.
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Starting point is 02:03:47 I'm telling you, dude, like you say things and you take my mind down all these rabbit holes. And I feel like we went from TikTok to that. And I was just like, how did we get there? But it's beautiful. You know what I mean? Because there's my thing is I am very big on how can we find the redemption angle and a lot of things. Like, yes, the world is evil.
Starting point is 02:04:09 There's a lot of bad in the world. But how can we find that redemption? Redeem the time because the days are evil. Redeem the time because the days are evil. Let's dive into some audio, shall we? Jackson, where you're laughing? It's just a left, there's a turn. Let's take a say.
Starting point is 02:04:32 I don't know what to say. That was awesome. I literally brought it up like, I don't know, 30 minutes ago. You played at the scene. If I don't make that hard left, we're just going to do something else. Because like, I would like, all right, so talk to me about this pathway that you found down a tunnel system somewhere where you were talking to Apollo. Remember that time? He's like, oh yeah, of course.
Starting point is 02:04:50 I've never heard that time. And it's like 30 minutes later. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about metamaterials. Yeah, that's crazy that you say that because I don't. Just wait. Just wait. Just wait.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Just wait. All right. Just keep it there. Just keep it there. These are going to be our placeholders for the conversation. We're going to have to circle back to meta materials. Where's my notes here? I have, where is it at?
Starting point is 02:05:14 Where's it at? We have... It's going to get rowdy. I had some notes. It's a good thing I'm not going by because I can't even find them. Pin it paper, bro. I know, right? Well, the thing is, I don't understand what I write half the time.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Let's see here. You wanted to talk about how the dragon speaks through technology? Do you want to do that? Totally, yeah. because I got sidetrack. I was just trying to find my note. I have metamaterials on my mouth. My mind is 40,000 spider webs.
Starting point is 02:05:40 They're all floating in there at the same time. Let's put on some headphones and see where this journey takes us. Are you going to play Dragon Audio? I can play it for you if you want. Let me. Actually, you're going to sidetrack me again. He's going to sidetrack me again. We'll pick that up another episode.
Starting point is 02:05:54 There we go. I'll bring it with me because it's only hard copied. Are you talking about I don't have ears on me? I know. Yeah. I don't think. So are you talking about like actual dragon audio?
Starting point is 02:06:06 Like the dragon, not like... Like him speaking. Like, rah, not that. Like, him speaking. Okay. Yep, we're going to need to do that. Revelation 12. Can you hear me in there?
Starting point is 02:06:14 Nope. Can't hear a thing. Okay. This is existing in an echo chamber. Maybe his, his headphones aren't plugged in, maybe. Can you hear anything now? Testing one, two. I can't hear a thing.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Testing. I'm plugged in all the way to that, that point. But not there. This is all going to get cut out. I know. That's okay. It's cute. Unless Jack figures up.
Starting point is 02:06:33 Oh, there we go. It's something... Oh, yes. You hear yourself? Wow, I sound great. You sound amazing, bro. Thank you, man. This sounds so much better.
Starting point is 02:06:40 This is what I told you. This makes me sound better than I do in real life. I know it. This thing is sorcery. Like that... Giving up the headphones during these interviews was hard because of that. But I just... It's more fun.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Not having the headphones on, but this is so butter. All that just... That's staying in. Jack, all that... Everything that just happened just... Keep it in. This is raw and authentic. Give me some more juice of my headphones because I'm deaf.
Starting point is 02:07:13 Oh, yeah. Now that's what I'm talking about. All right. It's a completely different experience now. We'll take them off at some point. No, it's okay. I'm sweating already. But I definitely...
Starting point is 02:07:24 A lot of artificial fabric on my face. I love it. So we have... I just kind of touched on it earlier, but we had an interview that came out yesterday. about hijacking dreams and how there's an actual agenda about that. And there's technology that is being developed, has been developed that they are using to infiltrate people's dreams. One is called REM space.
Starting point is 02:07:52 To be honest with you, full transparency, I would interview the owner of that company if he said yes. I've reached out. He hasn't responded. I don't know if he hasn't seen my messages, but I would interview him because I have. I don't want to say bones to pick, but I have questions, you know, because the whole motivation behind him creating the company was him as a teenager, I think 16, having experiences with lucid dreams and wanting to tap into that. I don't think it's an accident. And through the conversation with you, the motivation behind it may not be coming from him.
Starting point is 02:08:25 And so there's that, but there's other companies that are developing technologies to hack people's dreams. And I, this whole interview is going in that direction. and Jack has everything preset, I'm assuming. But the audio, I only heard a little clip, so maybe Jack has a little bit more for context purpose, but I know I was ranting just by the tone of my voice. I was going on one of the Tony rants,
Starting point is 02:08:49 and there is a voice that comes through. And Jack said to send me last night when I text him about this, he's like, I don't remember ever hearing that during the editing. So somehow this has happened between the editing and the release. So he exports it, he uploads it, it releases, and somehow that gets put on the audio. Very bizarre.
Starting point is 02:09:11 So let's take a listen, Jack. Okay, so this is with context, just so you guys are aware. I also have an ISO version of just the voice, and then I have it slowed down as well. So I can play all three of those when you're ready. Yeah, give us full speed first. Okay.
Starting point is 02:09:25 Lindsay Graham, Hillary Clinton, they can extract the data, but these entities can. And because you don't believe, that these entities exist because you don't believe that the other realm exists. You don't believe that these entities are actually operating and warring for your soul in the other realm continually 24-7. Because you don't believe you're a supernatural being living a spiritual existence, you will never come to the conclusion that entities are extracting your brain data going around
Starting point is 02:09:58 the checkbox loophole and giving it to nefarious people in this realm. Did I paint the picture enough? I don't know. So before you go any further, your eyes said at all, I mean, go ahead and just say whatever you're thinking. It sounds like a demon specifically. Not the tongue in a hush, but a demon trying to sew fear. my first encounter with experiencing this kind of stuff where basic recordings are augmented after they're recorded was very similar to this one of my friends his name was Chris who was hosting a
Starting point is 02:10:57 conference called take on the world this was back in 2018 I had just written my book I hadn't I hadn't published it yet. And I was doing a tour with Tom Dunn to all these sites of where all this stuff happened down in Arizona to document it before they burned it. That, I got a text from him and said, I was supposed to speak at that conference. That was going to be my first time going on stage, publishing my book, coming out, swinging, bro. He sends me a video over text messages that's him filming himself. doing a question and answer with somebody else about Revelation 12 and about the and it's specifically at a point where he was recording this this conversation everything was normal in his audio and then
Starting point is 02:11:44 when he went to listen to it later there was a second audio track that cut him off as he talked about fire comes down out of heaven and destroys the beast in his army right then his track cut off his video was still there of him but almost in slow motion and there was a separate track of Nahash of the dragon speaking and it freaked him out terribly because like what you and I just felt
Starting point is 02:12:13 as you're hearing that that conjuring of a spirit is disgusting it's disgusting you're hearing you're hearing behind their veil and it's confusion and it's chaos he sends it to me over a text
Starting point is 02:12:28 and it's 12 gigabytes when I open it which is impossible over a text. That's ridiculous. But when he sends it, it looks like a short clip, just a couple of, you know, 30 second clip. But when I open it, it's many, many minutes long. And it's literally the Nakhash threatening, like literally railing accusations that he
Starting point is 02:12:49 is going to win in that battle, that he is going to destroy the one who comes to content. Like, it is him proclaiming the opposite prophecy against that. and threatening not just Chris, but all of those who are trying to be a resistance to his army. That's what's in that clip. And that was the first time I was shaking uncontrollably when I first saw it. Because he said it was creepy.
Starting point is 02:13:15 I don't know what creepy means to him. I got a different level of creep. And he, when I heard that, I just started shaking uncontrollably because I've not heard my father, that father's voice in a long time. Terrified me because I knew it was a threat. I knew what I was on the precipice of doing was destruction against his house. And he was warning me, don't. And I went there.
Starting point is 02:13:40 And I shared my first ever time on a stage there. And I played a segment of that clip so people could understand. This is what we're dealing with. This technology that you and I are using and don't think a whole lot of is a form of sorcery at its roots and foundations. the means of communing with other realms, other entities through the air, is a divine right that was practiced through ritual magic, incantation, prayer, meditation through all these other means up until the time came when these demons specifically began to teach mankind how to make devices to talk to them. The first images ever used on like a television screen that you and I think of today were the nights. Templars cross. They were literally channeling these spirits to give them technology, to help them have access
Starting point is 02:14:36 to their realm. But it was a two-way street. And they were being manipulated because there's obviously levers to pull on somebody to make them give them what you want. They wanted a form of technology. Most of the time it's military or it's for financial gain. And that exchange is what has progressively been building this technology that we have. This is the interface communications platform that these entities now use to get their voice in.
Starting point is 02:15:02 And it started right away from the beginning. You can backplay music and hear speech, even when people are normal singing gospel, Christian, you will still hear other speech coming in backwards. And it's not always demonic sounding. It's not always evil. But when you start playing some of this music backwards, you'll find this artifacts. of this phenomenon going on all over the place. This technology like there was a technology company that was doing
Starting point is 02:15:31 security for and they were getting their data storage devices. Petabytes of data storage huge. That's the beast currency for them. It's going to be data storage. That they got the design plans from lucid dreaming and from talking to aliens entities that came and visited them that showed them and it helped them crack
Starting point is 02:15:52 problems they were having. They were doing ritual, not the same kind of voodoo creep eat stuff that people would think of, but they were communing with them under a man who was much more the handler of this group, who was an adept in these organizations. And he was teaching them, oh, here's how you can take this psilocybin mushroom. Here's how you can take these different compound supplements. And here's how you structure yourself with fasting and with sleep deprivation. And so that you will have these interactions. That was where their technology for this data storage had its origin points. But that's just one little tiny drop in a big bucket of the story of the chain of custody for where
Starting point is 02:16:31 much of our technology has come from. CERN, there's a reason CERN is the developers of the internet you and I are using to communicate to people all over the world. They sit on top of the temple of, they sit under the temple of Apollo. Their job is to unlock that gate. They want to bring him out and to raise their destroyer to the earth. That is their agenda. They developed the technology that you and I are using now and gave it to people.
Starting point is 02:16:56 But long ways down the line, the military, by the time they're done with the technology, it's 40 years after the fact, then they're going to give you wrist-watch AI computers. I saw them in 2006. Really?
Starting point is 02:17:05 You know, this stuff is, this stuff they give to us is their leftovers. It's the microwave oven after they're done building microwave weapons and nuking people with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Once it's irrelevant and not usable on their end, that's when they give it to you. When they have something far beyond this. Yeah. So you mentioned before we hit that recording and then you just mentioned this, are you, are you referring, that recording that you were talking about? Are you, is that the recording that you're referring to before? Or are we talking about you have two different recordings? You have three recordings with them talking. The other ones were when I spoke at conferences. Really? In Canada, when I spoke at a conference in Canada, when I spoke to the conference in Canada or was it just caught on the recording?
Starting point is 02:17:44 It was on the recording. So I spoke at a conference in Canada called, quest for, I think it's called Quest for Truth. Oh, no. Dying to save a life is the name of the video on my YouTube channel. You can watch that talk. But when I filmed it, I had two cameras. I had to learn how to do two or three of everything now since then. But when I filmed it, I filmed it on my phone and on a standalone camera. And when I looked at it on my phone after the conference ended there in Canada, it was completely normal. I watched it. But when I got on the airplane and began to watch it as I was flying back home, it was six hours long. And I'd given like a 40-minute, 40-ish-minute speech. And I was like, what the heck? And when I got to a part where I was specifically talking about
Starting point is 02:18:28 Revelation 19, when I was starting to hit on the judgments of the dragon and talking about that, my whole video goes into slow motion in my video. And underneath is a completely different audio. And it sounds like the dragon from the tunnel, but as if he had changed. And it. And it's if he had chains attached to him. And as he's moving, these chains are dragging behind him. It genuinely sounds like he's in a prison cell. It sounds like he's in a prison cell or in a chamber like he was when he saw me last, you know? And it was just threats and violence and reviling, just enraged,
Starting point is 02:19:08 enraged, like utter betrayal, warning me, I am going to gut you. for what you've done. Just violence. And he fulfilled that, man. I nearly died not a month later. It was almost punched my ticket. Yeah, but he didn't fulfill it to where he wants to fulfill it. No, but I still have five holes in my stomach from where I got wrecked with hernias that have never been fixed.
Starting point is 02:19:33 My spine is still crooked. I still can't walk and stand up right. You know, I'm still pretty freaking damaged goods, you know. Yeah, but you could still turn to him and just give him like the old... Give him the Trump wrong. still scary bro no i believe it it's it's a lot harder when you've seen these people's face to face when you've like these these are not and that's small things to trifle with and that's something that i've not seen the my creator face to face you understand i've i've physically witnessed the
Starting point is 02:20:03 fallen a lot i've not seen the face of my redeemer it's a lot easier to believe they exist when they're threatening you to your face it's a lot easier to have to have it's a lot easier to have faith when you've seen them. But blessed is the one who believes even if he hasn't seen. Yeah. Yeah. Wild stuff. Yeah. I've been in this, like last year, just been this educational state of existence. And I realized that by releasing the episodes, which I don't regret, by the way. And even the vocalization we just heard, we'll go back into that a second. But like, no fear. right? That's in the episode that you published.
Starting point is 02:20:47 Yeah, it's on there. Everybody's heard it. Like, I had no idea it was there until people were just tagging left and right. And usually, I said this before on the show, but like, if it's one or two people to say something like, you're probably hearing things. When I have dozens, I'm like, maybe I should listen to that. You should probably go back and check that episode out to see what happened in there. And yesterday was a very busy day, a lot of stuff at home with the wife and stuff. And I was like, I'll get around to it. And I forgot until I,
Starting point is 02:21:15 hopped on X and I saw, I was tagged and somebody screen recorded. It's like, it was just hit play. And I was like, oh, dang, that's interesting. But I've realized that part of, you know, spiritual warfare and things like that is when you, when you're operating in the call that you're called to do, my callings different than yours. Yours is different from the next person. I'm being called to expose these things through this venue. By doing that, though, you're poking these things in the eye. You're poking them, you're poking them. You're draining their battery.
Starting point is 02:21:52 That's a great way to view it. They don't like that. And eventually they'll die. Like, they will run out of juice, bro. I've noticed. They'll be left wandering the desert. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:22:04 So you're really giving me the imagery that I need to understand, you know? Pull their plugs, bro. Keep going. Oh, yeah. Like, if I've been commissioned to do by, the Almighty, I don't fear the ones he's commissioning me to go against. It's just way it is. I'm backed by God, you know? The enemy fire is always strongest when you're over the most sensitive targets.
Starting point is 02:22:27 That's what I looked at that threat as. And you should look at this similarly. For sure. Like lots of enemy aircraft, anti-aircraft fire coming in at us. We got to stay on target. That's a situation. Stay in the course. Stay at the course. So like, and this, I'll use the example, and then we'll go back whenever we get back to the audio. But like, there's another one. There's more? Well, yeah, he wants to kind of play the variation of it. But so, like, I, okay, so Lindsay, when the diagnosis came in with her cancer, my, I mean, I was a mess. Like, I had, like, my heart was broken.
Starting point is 02:23:04 And then my, my natural reaction was, I called people and I said, I think we're going to need to pump the brakes with the podcast and go on cruise control. we're going to do what we need to do to stay afloat, but I don't have the time. I'm not going to have the energy to put into the show. I need to be focused at home. Wrong because since her diagnosis and coming down, it started before that, but so did the diagnosis, we just didn't know it at the time. Like there's a storm brewing in her, which is, I believe, a spiritual thing for sure. and it's meant to be a distraction and to pull away from what God's doing.
Starting point is 02:23:50 There's been this thing brewing that God's been doing and revealing a new chapter of the call to me, like evangelism preaching. He's surrounding me with pastors that are like showing me how to do certain things. I just don't know how to do. And then the diagnosis comes in. I'm ready to pull the plug and just say,
Starting point is 02:24:14 guys, very mid, let's just, you know, and I even said it on the show, I think when I came, when I talked about it to people when I first announced what was going on, I said, I don't know what this means for the show. The show is not ending, but I don't know how often I'll be around. I even called some people. I talked to two of my friends about stepping in and hosting the show for me for a while. And in the middle of that storm, we just started experiencing an explosion, like an explosion everywhere. Like, it's like, like God was like, I know what you're experiencing, but it's because of what I'm about to do.
Starting point is 02:24:54 And we're just like, and I tell everybody the same thing. I don't know if this season that we're in is a temporary season, if it's a short season, or if it's, this is an extended period of time. But right now, as I'm sitting here with you, I think in the last month and a half, the YouTube channel has grown like, I think, I want to say like nearly 50, 60,000 subscribers, all platforms we have are experiencing growth. And that's just the growth side of things.
Starting point is 02:25:22 Like, there's the whole spiritual side of things that God's doing that's like clear. Like, I literally just had a, it wasn't a phone call. I got a text message from a former coworker today that hadn't talked to in a while. And he just kind of poured himself out to me a little bit. He's like, I'm not a religious person. My life is really kind of falling apart. and I sent him like a nearly 20-minute voice memo just on the way in here today,
Starting point is 02:25:44 just kind of like pouring into him and trying to share with him how God has plans for his life and if he starts stepping into what God created him to be, he's going to find joy and fulfillment that he never could have experienced anywhere else. And his life circumstances built him into this person that he is today,
Starting point is 02:26:05 but that's not the image that God had intended for him. And, but all these little things been popping up that weren't the most typical. And it's just like, it's clear that God has been really, like, taking the ship and doing a hard left on certain things. And I think that what we're experiencing in the personal side thing with Lindsay and stuff, it was, it's been meant to be a distraction. My wife ain't dying. Hallelujah. She's not dying. And she's going to be healed.
Starting point is 02:26:37 And so like, we're not operating in fear. And I was just reading yesterday in Mark 8, it just kind of hit me. I think I text my pastor like 1130 at night because I was just like, it just hit me. So Jesus spits on the blind man's eyes, right? And he can see, but the trees. We talked about that earlier, right? But like the whole thing is, like I said to my pastor, it's almost like Jesus was showing us that healing is a process of times. Like, could Jesus have healed him right?
Starting point is 02:27:07 way? Of course. Like he didn't have to move. It's just, it's done. How many times we, the woman who said that her daughter was demon possessed and he's like, because of your face, she's good. And like, just go back. She's done. He didn't do anything. He just, he's just like, hey, it's done. You're good. But he showed this idea of like, you know, this man is blind. He can see, but people look like trees. And he puts his hands on again. And he can see it's like this healing process. And that's where I'm looking at Lizzie. It's like, listen, this is a healing process. We're in, we're in the process right now at any moment today, tomorrow, next week, whenever, that process can be over. That's the way I'm looking at, you know. So anyways, let's talk about some spooky, some other
Starting point is 02:27:47 spooky sounds check. I don't know how I got on that. It's such a beautiful testimony, though. But I'll just say, man, there's a tremendous growth and maturity that's happened to you in the last year in particular. You're a very different man than the first time I sat down with you. I appreciate that. You really are. You were timid about the gospel at that point in your life, which is, I understand. I was very timid about the gospel for a lot of life. I rarely even read the word out loud on stage or at these in shows. I was still battling that. But to see suffering has produced a good fruit in you and your wife. And it's produced what's been germinating inside you guys, which is great faith, great boldness. But those are the fruits of the
Starting point is 02:28:25 Holy Spirit. Those are the actual things that hang on the tree that allows others to inspect what it is you're doing. What are your real motives? And you being tested in this matter has been such an abounding revelation to everybody else watching that you guys are anchored in a righteous foundation and you are not moving you know you're the immovable objects yeah that's that's that's a real thing that the enemy encounters that are unstoppable forces you know that's what we are all made to be we're called in the scriptures the word is gibor or gibberim like when gideon's grinding grinding grain in the wine press and the angel of yahua comes to him and is like hey gideon you gibboe you gibber you You mighty man of valor.
Starting point is 02:29:07 You know, and he's like, say what? You know, not trained in war. And he's like, I'm going to command you to lead an army and completely eradicate your enemies. You're like, uh, somebody else? I got other brothers, bro. They're better. You got other options out there. He's like, he's like, I want you to tear down your father's idols and burn them with fire.
Starting point is 02:29:31 He's like, can I ask my friends to help? He's like, you bet you. that's that's he sees us he sees warrior he sees his special forces becoming gibbereme that's like a series that i started many years ago when covid was launching itself and i thought it's go time baby let's teach him everything like let's teach him the way of the blade yeah you know i'm like i'm gonna teach you guys about bronze weapons and all kinds and about the bible but about bronze weapons too But that boldness that rises up in men when they're tested, you know, that's evidence of a different kingdom. Because what I see rise up in men who compromise is shame and guilt and bondage and fear.
Starting point is 02:30:18 That's what comes out of them when they're tested. You know, but this is the distinction that is so powerful, the kingdom of righteousness is that when we experience the crushing of the refining. there's fire. When we experience the loss of our normal, what we give is fractured parts of our self to our king to fill up and cleanse and fortify, amalgamate into something that is pure and strong. Because it takes a lot to go from this to this. This is how you get iron. This is hematite. This is an amazing mineral. Lots of other stuff in there, too. But to go from this to carpenter tool, steel, CTS, X-HP, fashioned into a blade, like, I took this one from a piece of metal and chunks of wood with Patrick from MT Knives. Amazing knife guy.
Starting point is 02:31:14 He's, I always wear his knife. Let's talk knives for a second. I will get back around to it. The Genesis neck knife. This is one he makes. Freaking beautiful. Sharpest knife you'll ever get in the mail. I love him.
Starting point is 02:31:22 I have no sponsorships. I'm not for sale. I just love stuff that I love and I evangelize it to the nations. Anyways, I went to his hands. house. I lived in his driveway, like a bum, just hoping that he'd teach me how to make a knife. And be like, I'm still here. Anyways, I've wanted to make this knife for a long time, long, long time. But to go from a process where you start with something so basic, so ordinary, and to end up with something
Starting point is 02:31:49 so extraordinary is incredibly challenging. Takes tremendous amount of work, a tremendous amount of time and resources and skill and instruction, because you're going to put this thing through the fire over and over and over again. You're going to grind it away. You're going to change its nature. You're going to alter it to where it's unrecognizable as what it once was. This was a piece of a tree, an olive tree. That's what it was growing, oh, I like this little guy. At some point in its life, that's all it was. And now I live with it on my chest. That's a completely different thing. This little coin that you see inside here was a gift that somebody gave me. That's a widow's mite. Ever hear that story where a woman is standing at the temple makes an office?
Starting point is 02:32:30 And all she gives are these two little mites. It's the smallest copper coin that was in the currency of circulation at the time. That's what these are. These are widows mites, is what they call them. She gave these tiny little coins into a big chest that would jingle when people put lots of money in there and make everyone, oh, my, they're tied. It's quite prodigious these days. Whereas she gave everything she had. And she gave so much more. And you know what? That's what's asked of us. He's asking. He's asking. of us to give everything we have to him. He's actually inviting you to give him everything in your life. That's called sovereignty. That's a different requirement. That's not often what's preached to us in the gospel message, but we are inviting him to be the complete ruler of our lives to where if he says, I'm going to take your family, all of them, I'm going to take everything you have and leave you destitute. Will you still follow me? That's quite an invitation. That's very different than I'll give you power to kill your enemies. That's pretty easy to sign on that line, you know.
Starting point is 02:33:36 But his offer is pure. He is the one who can take weak men and wounded women and make them into the most powerful fighting force that's on the earth. And it's amazing to get to see that rising up. The father's raising up his remnant. And it's beautiful to see it coming to take place. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 02:33:54 I see it everywhere too. And yeah, I think I was telling you before we started recording, kind of, like the process mentally for me on that whole thing, which was like, like I knew God called me to do the podcast. I did the podcast. And throughout the entire existence of the podcast, there was no mistake in my mind. I've said it countless times. The only reason why this thing is successful is because God blessed it because I was an entrepreneur beforehand. I've had several different businesses and I've failed at all of them. And honestly, I'm failing at this one if it wasn't for the hand of God on it because like, I'm terrible. That's why I had a higher manager because I was like,
Starting point is 02:34:28 I don't know what the heck is going on, man. But like in this process of revelation when it came to, so when I first started the podcast, I didn't, I didn't have a clear understanding or call as to what my task was other than start the podcast. And so that's what I did. And we started collecting people's stories. And I'm like, okay. And I'm dealing with social rejection from my local church.
Starting point is 02:34:55 You know, I say social rejection because it's not like they said, stop doing this. or you're going to hell or anything that. It was just this socialization that dwindled. And if there was socialization, it was talking about this show, but in a tongue-and-cheek manner. And so I started, like, I was really struggling with, like, I know what I'm doing is what I'm supposed to do, but I don't want to misstep and do something
Starting point is 02:35:20 that's going to dishonor God at the same time. And then countless times throughout the show's existence, I felt that way. I felt like, I think I messed up. And I deal with these battles, these internal battles, like, did I just jack something up? Is this over? Did I, do I have to pay the Piper now and all this stuff? You know?
Starting point is 02:35:39 And I do believe that there are times that I've said things on the show that I regret. But thank God that his grace covers that. And I ask that he just erases those bad things that I've said from people's memory. Even though it's on record, obviously. but like it's just like for instance one thing that's in my mind is in the early days because of my social rejection I had stopped going to any kind of corporate meeting of the body I was like I I can know that I can do this growth myself spiritually heck with everybody and that was a mistake that was mistake I need the unity I need the community of people I just I didn't I didn't believe that it was out there I didn't
Starting point is 02:36:21 believe that people were out there and I would vocalize such things on the show in early days you know in a sense, I really was rough. Rightfully so on some things, but I was very bitter towards the church. And so throughout the show's existence, I've come to understand that as much as, you know, Jack, how many episodes are we into? 750 or 60?
Starting point is 02:36:45 65. 765 episodes in. Like, we have different guests, you know. This is your third time on the show. but I'm the main consistent thing here, you know. And so it is about the guest, but it's also about my journey through this stuff, especially at the topics we're dealing. We're not talking about a comedy podcast. And you know what I mean? Like, so heavy stuff. It's heavy stuff. And I'd have to be literally mentally held back severely if I'm not changing perspectives on things as I discovered
Starting point is 02:37:16 things through people's experiences. And I found myself over the last like two years really hitting a thing where I'm like, I don't know if I can keep going status quo on this show. Like, it was, you know, tell me your story. You know, and that's what we do that. But like, there's a deeper reason here. And God was starting to really show me there's something else going on here. And I got to a point where I was like, I would be extremely disingenuous if I didn't just follow my conviction on this, I would be a fake host of this show, which is what I didn't want to be
Starting point is 02:37:55 when I first started. When I first started, I was like, should I be the sticky guy? You know, should I have a schick? And I even thought about changing my name, which sometimes I wish I would have been like Juan Diaz or something because, like, I don't like the fact that people know my name and that they can just find me because I've dealt with that crap. But, like, I didn't want to be something that I'm not because my fear was that that would work. And then, I'm trapped in this cell that I've built for myself. And so I found myself circling back to that same thing where it's like, I'm at a crossroads right now.
Starting point is 02:38:32 And though the audience doesn't know what I know because I had that story that I was talking about earlier, a 692 episode, Dark Shift, like I had that three years ago. I knew that story. And then I'm having all these other revelations. The audience didn't have that story yet. and I'm sitting here. I'm like, this is deep, and this is strong spiritual warfare. And the more I started learning and the more people are coming to me saying, hey, I'm being recruited, this, that, and the other, I'm like, I can't, I can't pretend I don't know the things that I know. That's right. And I just,
Starting point is 02:39:07 I was like, God, Jesus, take the wheel. And I was just like, let's do this. And it's just been this, like, this shift in the show as me as a host, because, I was just like, I got to just stay authentic. And eight years ago, I was authentic. And as I learned things, I was authentic. When I learned some big things, I had to make big decisions to still be authentic. And I started realizing that I was, I was toying with that line when I started feeling like in my everyday life, I'm not the same guy that I am on the microphone because there's this shift happening. And in my everyday life, I'm very visualistic and just like, that's how I am. And then I started feeling like, I feel like when I turn on the microphone, there's a tampering
Starting point is 02:40:03 down of that. And I don't know if that's good. And especially with the things that I've learned, I don't think that's good. I think people need to know this stuff, whether they like it or not. And the more I wrestle with that, the more I was just like, I'm done with this crap. I'm just going to be who I am. And this means that, like, the evangelistic side of me of eight years ago is magnified even more now. Like, because now it's like, I have, before it was like, hey, Jesus loves you. And I'll tell the world about that. And now it's like, Jesus loves you.
Starting point is 02:40:33 Hey, and also there's a war that you were born into. And there's an enemy out there that's trying to destroy your soul every day. Their sole purpose is to destroy you. Come to Jesus. It's just like, but like that, that's the, there was a shift in me. Anyways, became a recruiter. I did. You see?
Starting point is 02:40:54 I is. He's got his own finders club. The father has his own. You know, we just, we talk about the enemies, but he's got his own. The CFC, Christ finder club. He hunts the souls of men, too. You know, just does it in different way. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:08 It's an invitation. Yeah. You know. But anyways, I wanted to go down that road a bit because what you just said, it was an open door for me to actually go into some detail about that. It's not, it's not the most organic way to do things at times, but you brought that up, it allowed me to do that. So thank you for that. It's beautiful. But I think you mentioned something that was actually the prerequisite that was required, which was your repenting for the sin that you had being embittered towards the body, the church.
Starting point is 02:41:38 Oh, yeah. And I distinctly had deep wounds about that. You know, if you read my book, there's some bitter pain that comes out about the church because I was raised in the Christian church all during every freaking day of this. My family where go to church is the religion, people, you know. And even with bringing grandpa into the church pedophile next to me, pastors blind, can't see him, can't discern it, ravaging my life. My pastor's coming into my room and taking what was most precious to me
Starting point is 02:42:15 because they thought that thing was demonic, a poster I had of a T-Rex popping out of a wall. That was my nightlight. It blew in the dark. It was just like sacred object of mine. One of the few things that gave me some kind of thing to hold on to when I was being abused at night. And the pastor from a very charismatic church was brought in
Starting point is 02:42:36 to try to do a deliverance because of having night terrors, screaming my screaming my head off at night. They moved my great grandpa into our house so I could be his bedmate
Starting point is 02:42:50 sold me to him and I was losing my mind freaking losing my mind because now before it was out of the house stuff and I was in the house
Starting point is 02:43:01 stuff and it was like I had there was a sanctity to my bed you know that's a big freaking deal to me always has been
Starting point is 02:43:08 I don't care what kind of bed I'd sleep dog glues with dogs. That was my bed. Hammicks. I slept in a hammock my entire senior year. Like, I don't care what it is. I want to be, I want a space that's mine. Something. I'll crawl into a freaking ditch. I just need somewhere to lay my head in rest for a minute. And they violated that. And I was coming unglued. And they brought in this pastor and he walked into my room and like, all the blood drained out of his face. He was terrified at the felt presence of the demonic that was in
Starting point is 02:43:39 that room. Okay. I could tell the guy was about to get his lunch eaten. You know what I mean? Like he, I genuinely believe he loved the father and he loved Jesus and he was doing his best. But behind him were two men that were such powerful and capable luciferians. And they were bringing him in for a spectacle.
Starting point is 02:44:05 Wow. Like, that's, that's my understanding of the church. And as he walked around in there, he was horrified at my bed. But he just looked around and they kind of pointed out the poster. They're like, maybe it's that. And he's like, yeah, it's that. Definitely. Definitely that.
Starting point is 02:44:19 And it's like not the guy's bedroom that's on the other side of it, that freaking grandpa Don. That, they took that poster and crumpled it up and threw it in the trash. And I had to drive by that thing the next morning, you know, and he freaking raped me that night. That's mind control. That's mind control. That's the kind of filth they do to set you up so that you think the pastors at the church
Starting point is 02:44:38 are weak. That's what it did to me. I realized that whole event that set up that I did there wasn't really about any of that. It was to make me look at pastors and the church as a place full of cowards. Don't go there. You want to find warriors? Come to us. We'll teach you out a hunt. I never had a pastor teach me out to hunt the souls of men. What the heck? Yeah. Like should be day one. Welcome to the team, son. You're going to war. Yes. I want that guy. I want that guy. I want that guy. I want somebody that's going to knife hand somebody in the throat and teach him the gospel. I need that. I frankly need that.
Starting point is 02:45:13 I just need to see it on stage at least one. Just straight to the throat. Drop that guy. Holy Spirit fire on him. That's the Benny Hinn I wish he was. You know what I mean? Like, where the heck is that Holy Rollers team? You know, they were the power team guys.
Starting point is 02:45:27 I need that. I need that because I'm on fire inside. I burn day and night and I need something, something to burn down. Like I'm like that. My wife always laughs when I say, burn it down. She always laughs, right? I'm like, honey, I don't think you get it. I'm looking for nuclear weapons. She's like, oh, got that look in your ass. I'm like, I want them. I want to watch it burn.
Starting point is 02:45:50 I don't even know if they're real. You know what I'm saying? There's that whole thing. Anyway, furs are fake too. Burm birds are fake. They're gross. Time source aren't real. I've gone down all the rabbit hole sun. But I had such a bitterness in my heart about the church because I yoked them to cowards, yoked them to easily manipulate it. I yoked them. to betrayers of trust. I told pastors I was being abused and they told the abusers spit on them.
Starting point is 02:46:20 Yeah. I had a lot more flowery language for him. Yeah. I wanted to murder them for that betrayal. I suffered so much at the hands of the church. But I also heard the gospel there. And that was my family. And I also was given much there.
Starting point is 02:46:39 I had people feed me. I had people clothed me and shelter me and harbor me. All along the way, he sent his beautiful body to sustain me and nourish me along when I was dying of despair. He'd send me a harbinger of hope. He was so gracious to me because his body is real. They're real people that genuinely have the spirit of God in them. They are not like these monsters. They have love.
Starting point is 02:47:09 They have love even for their enemies. They're unlike any other thing I've ever encountered on the earth. And over the course of my life, I have literally got to see by changing covenants, by going into covenant with Yahoo and repenting of my bitterness for the church and asking him to cleanse that area of my mind and have a love and a respect for them again. It's like these scales of pride that were on me,
Starting point is 02:47:34 because ultimately that's pride, fell off. and I'm able to see the church, the body of Messiah, with this beautiful lens of what effective work they're doing. Like, there's people that took my wife a night in. Listen, I gave up unimaginable amounts of inheritance to try to do this path this way so Naomi could have freedom and my children could know what it's like to not wake up and that crap like I did.
Starting point is 02:47:58 And that kind of leaves a mark on you. And you kind of have an expectation. Like, I believe by my 30th birthday, man, I was supposed to have the keys to the kingdom and go freaking drive. and I was going to burn everybody down that was on my kill list and bless everybody that was on my blessed list. That was like what I'd been built up to do. And instead, I was in a Walmart parking lot of my 30th birthday and an RV living on the run. Like, well, that's quite a letdown. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:23 I survived for this, you know, anonymity, obscurity, and waste. But the people that opened their doors to us and took us in and sheltered us were the lowliest among men. Some of them had great means. Many of them did not. And they sacrificed what little they had to give us life. One of those people, Adam Wegman, Adam the first man on YouTube, check him out. He's the one who put these widows mites in this knife for me. He's a great jeweler. But he traveled in a school bus with us, my family. He converted a school bus and went on the road. And we lived alongside them for six months. And do you know what that did? We had companionship.
Starting point is 02:49:03 We had what you just described when you gather together with other people and the spirit is there. Like, you're like, wow, I have accountability in my life. So I'm not just a lone wolf doof
Starting point is 02:49:11 just running a mock out here. Like I actually have a brother in arms. And when you pray together, it's this force multiplier. And you're like, we should do that more often. And they're like, I should do that more often.
Starting point is 02:49:19 Like, they labored in the trenches of black tanks and poop everywhere and no electricity and laundry and all the crap that happens with on the road. That looks real great on the Instagram. It stinks like death inside there, man. Like they sacrificed everything to try to follow the calling of their king.
Starting point is 02:49:37 They gave up everything. And I'm just so addicted to loving these people now because I've seen meekness is power under control. And then when it's in your power to push the button to burn the earth to ash, you instead send out your army to minister love. That's freaky stuff. That's nothing like what the way of it is of the kingdom of darkness is. But that's exactly when they asked their Elijah. They're like, hey, Elijah, we got the whole army's blind. He's just, boom.
Starting point is 02:50:06 He just hit him with blindness. 180,000 people. He's all like, boom, you're all done, son. They all like came there to kill him. And he's like, I know. You came here for that, but you can leave blind. He'll leave blind. They're all wandering around, you know, and he leads them back to the city where all the rest
Starting point is 02:50:21 of the army of Israel is. And the commander of the army is like, oh, yeah, baby. Sweet slaughter time, right? And he's like, nope, here's what you're going to do. You're going to feed them. You're going to clothe them. You're going to bless them. And then you're going to send them home. That's mercy. Straight up. Biblical level mercy. And you know what they did is they didn't create another generation of iniquity. They drained the battery bank, the kingdom of darkness. And they filled those men with love. Because the greatest love that exists is to love one's enemies and to have mercy on them, to spare their lives. I have stared at some of these men with my blade at their backs. ready to hunt them and kill them. And I have been given a perspective on them that did not come from me and given them mercy. I see and understand that I was not born to take life. I was born to give it. Nathan means giver, the gift. I was born to bring the words of the covenant to life.
Starting point is 02:51:18 That's what I was here for. You have been given a calling to bring these words to life, to bring these stories and these testimonies, these confessionals that others, we sit in silence and obscurity. We have no voice. We are here to be voices for the voiceless. I'm a pale drop in a big bucket of blood where people are wailing and weeping every night. Desperate for somebody to hear them, someone to save them. They are desperate for their voices to be heard. And their whole life they've been told to shut up and go away.
Starting point is 02:51:50 But you know what? We're going to cry all the louder. Jesus, son of David, have compassion on me! They told them to shut up. we will not be silent. And you know what? If you try to silence us, these stones will cry out.
Starting point is 02:52:08 Glory be to Yahoo for ever and ever. He's coming and he will come with wrath this next time. And you must turn to be saved. Nathan. That's why. I don't even know how to respond to that. You just perfectly depicted that warrior, the warrior's heart that has been birthed in you.
Starting point is 02:52:36 And that's what I was talking about earlier. I mean, it's like the idea that God built us and create us for an image that he has designed and the enemy takes it and perverts it. I mean, it's really played out so beautifully with you. I mean, literally, you are a warrior. You've been designed to be a warrior and they hijacked your design for their purposes. and the redemption story now is that the rest of your life is wartime, fulfilling what you've been created to do, but through the means that he has designed for that to be.
Starting point is 02:53:12 And you were talking about earlier the draw to go and use the blade, but you're doing it the Lord's way. And if you would have gone and done it the old way, like I forget how you described it but it literally is like it's stepping down a level you know like it's it's not even it's not even as effective as the way the Lord has called you to do it you know I'm saying like it's it's like choosing to show up to a gun fight with a knife you know or your case I might be that never mind that's a really bad example showing up to a nuke fight with a with a with a BB gun you know Trying to go after a sniper with a knife.
Starting point is 02:53:57 That's a thing. Scary. Enjoyable. But I just, I think that what you're, what you are depicting through your, your sharing is that from day one, you were born a warrior. It's just in that sandbox, it was hijacked. You know what I mean? And, and it's, it's cliche and sometimes even annoying to hear Christians say this.
Starting point is 02:54:25 but God does turn all things for his good, right? The saving of many lives. You think you're just so far beyond correction, and it's just not true. It's just not the truth. So. And there are so many wounded ones who are like that. There's so many people with split personality, mind-controlled, broken personalities, dissociated, fractured, wounded ones.
Starting point is 02:54:55 There's hundreds of millions of them now. And they are some of the most beautiful, incredibly intelligent, capable people that have ever been. But the enemy saw him like Terminator and the generals in his enemy's army. And he went and shattered their youths. You know, Gray, there's a guy who he's organized safety, organized safety.org. Yeah. He says, this is what is all my water bottle. Go for the head.
Starting point is 02:55:20 Break the cycle. He's got a serpent, the dragon with this dagger. Beautiful dagger. He's a dagger worker like I was. Is he? I've talked to him here and there. His network of what he's doing to try to dismantle this empire is so brilliantly done because it's a way of reporting these things that have happened to survivors or victims where you can report it anonymously, organized safety. And you can report it anonymously and tag its location. And then it will be independently corroborated if somebody else also shares.
Starting point is 02:55:54 that the same individual, same places and locations, it builds a terrain map and allows them to be able to take legal action against people because we have multiple corroborating witnesses of people that don't, didn't have any way of knowing that. There's no connection. Yes, it's one of the best ways of trying to bring it out because I can't sit here and go through naming, you know, like a hypothetical person, like a Richard Allen White as the military handler for my family. But if I wanted to try to name some kind of hypothetical person, I would potentially have to suffer the legal consequences of doing that. But, that if you want to report it, you can use something like that. And it allows people to be able to go after it. And I just, there's such brilliance that's contained inside the minds of survivors for ways of fighting, the true warriors, like incredible warriors. Because people that have been through this level of depravity, people that have seen Beale Haddad face to face, people that have cut the throats of their enemies because they're so zealous for their convictions are the greatest sellouts for the kingdom of darkness. but when they're redeemed, oh my gosh, they become Paul. They become Moses. They become men of mightiness and renown that tear asunder the kingdom of darkness
Starting point is 02:57:03 that take hammers and smash the idols of their fathers. Like Gideon rose up in the night. He took 10 of his servants and he broke down the idols of his father's house. The whole city used to do sacrifices and ritual magic in his front yard. That's what his dad was into. Disgusting stuff. But he broke it down and burned it. And you know what?
Starting point is 02:57:27 That took such bravery. That's the kind of thing that is available to those that will call upon our creator and ask him to deliver you and heal you, no matter what level of fracturing you're been. From the highest of heights of the upper echelon of elites to the bottom rung of our society. Every man, woman, and child was made and born for a purpose to tear down the kingdom of darkness. For this reason, the son of God, was manifested to destroy the works of the devil. That's what we were born to do.
Starting point is 02:57:56 That's the invitation that's waiting on the table. Sign on that dotted line. You don't have to sign in your blood. Someone already did. He owns you. It's whether or not you accept his gift of life and salvation. He will raise us from the dead. When we die and we wane and we wax old,
Starting point is 02:58:10 we will live again and we will live without a memory of the nightmare. We will live and rejoice forever because our king is here and our father will rule and reign forever. We're wrapping it there. That's the show. Drop the metamaterial. We don't need to listen to any other sounds and stuff. That's a wrap for this session.
Starting point is 02:58:35 And I call it a session because we will do other sessions. Nathan, at some point down the road. I mean, how long we've been recording, Jack? Three hours. That's good enough, I'd say. Sweet introduction. Welcome to Nathan Reynolds, everybody. No, that's, I mean, how can we not?
Starting point is 02:58:51 end on that, right? That note, why take it a different direction at this point? Let people know where they can find more about you. You bet. You can go to Snatched From the Flames.com. That's the book. That's the dragon, by the way. My wife drew that. Oh, really? I tried to help her. That's what I saw. That's there. He lacks his armor because I've taken his armor, son. I didn't. The King of Kings did. I read the book, and it's bad for him. Anyways, Snatched from theflames.com. I've got the audio book there, PDF, name your own price. Don't let price be an issue, guys. I've got an entire dramatized recording of the audio scripters, way more important than my book. You can download that
Starting point is 02:59:30 for free there. And I also have prayer resources, which were the most critical component in my wrestling with this battle is prayers from Dr. Michael Aiken, Mary Lou, which are in the back of my book. They're also free on the website that are good for trauma and fragmentation, people morning prayers, evening prayers, generational curses from Luciferian cults. And all that you got them in your, Everyone you got junk in your trunk. You got some spiders crawling around in the back corners of great grandpa Ned, that freak. Yeah. You know, don't carry around his baggage, no more.
Starting point is 02:59:59 Unplug. And also, prayers for breaking of unions from sexual soul ties. Because every time you ever got into it, you got some spiritually transmitted diseases that come with it. And it doesn't go away just because you stopped. So, shut that door. Seal it up. It goes two ways. That's a two-way street.
Starting point is 03:00:15 Spiritally transmitted diseases. Yeah, STDs, bro. It's a big problem. People should talk about that. that. That's the real sex education they should have given you as a child instead of the crap that they gave you. Anyways, I'm going to get lost. I was going to say, here we go. But the main place that I do a lot of my posting on is at YouTube, Nathan Reynolds, that's my channel, the linen railroad. We talk about all kinds of topics like this. We also are really passionate. Permiculture. We talk about
Starting point is 03:00:40 dragon's teeth. This one's for you, Tony. Oh, for real? You for real. This one's for you, Jack. You get a to dragon's tooth. You betcha. That's awesome. That's for you, brother. Thank you. Real life. We'll have to talk about dragon venom and lizards and how they use it to poison people today. It's literally a consequence that he said for doing these sins. You're going to drink the poisons of dragons. That's why people are literally drinking the poisons of dragons. We got to deal with all that stuff. But YouTube, TikTok, I think, is snatched from the flames. Rumble, snatch from the flames. Stuff like that. You can find me places. I'm not easily found in physicality. Google them. You'll find them. There's stop. Maybe duck, duck go him.
Starting point is 03:01:17 Anyways, live dangerously, bro. Bear up those bronze blades. I appreciate you I appreciate you

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