The Confessionals - 798: The Dark Forces Behind Human Trafficking

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

What happens when rescuing women from human trafficking becomes a direct confrontation with the powers of darkness? Tony and Kenny Sacht take you to the frontlines, where spiritual warfare erupts in brothels, prayers break through demonic resistance, and the unseen realm pushes back against every act of freedom. From lightning-split nights to moments when entire rescue missions were supernaturally threatened, this episode reveals the cost of fighting evil face to face, and the power that comes when heaven joins the battle.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] SachtInstagram | Website | SupportMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - ImposterYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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I saw three long, boning fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears Dan holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated.

He got him out. Feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two small gray entities pulling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Welcome to the show, everybody, you're listening to The Confessionals Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Merkel.

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Link in the description. And today we have the Meadow Project available on Merklefilms.com. If you want to see me and the crew run around a very super secret exclusive location where a cubed portal opened up and team members of another research team walked into the cube portal, you got to check out the Meadow Project because we go to this location and investigate it for ourselves. And it's now streaming on demand at Merkelfilms.com. Check it out. Now, today we have Kenny coming on the show. And Kenny is somebody who is a rare case where you have people who see the human trafficking side of life and they fight against it.

Kenny, enter the war on human trafficking, fighting against it, but he sees the supernatural elements and aspects of the human trafficking and why it's important to attack it, not only in the physical, but also in the supernatural spiritual as well. Let's get to Kenny right now. All right. Today we have Kenny on the show. Kenny, how are you, sir? I'm doing good, Tony. Good to be with you, man. I'm glad you're here. You and I started just connecting here. And you started starting. You started. saying things that I was like, I think this just needs to be on recording. So before we get into that, I just want to properly introduce you. You run the organization, Wipe Every Tier. And that is an organization that fights human trafficking. And it's funny that you and I are talking because I have another guy that I'm going to be talking, or I already recorded with hasn't aired at the time of this recording. But he also fights human trafficking. My friend Troy Brewer fights human trafficking.

a professor from college that I had, has an organization that fights human trafficking. Hope, inspire love, I think is what it's called. And that's out of Pennsylvania. Yeah, hope inspired love. I pulled it up earlier. But it's just like,

it's something that I take every opportunity to speak to people on, because it's a very serious thing. In fact, at the time of this recording, next Wednesday, I have a lady coming in studio who was a victim of, Jeffrey Epstein. And so it's just like, it's, it's a reality. And I feel like it's, it's a reality that has become more, I would say on the front line, like people understand it's a problem where I think 10 years ago it was really under radar where people didn't even comprehend the fact that it was a,

it was an issue. And let alone a major issue. Yeah. So we're going to get into all that because you had these supernatural attacks and experiences start happening to you after you decided to start that. But you are, I don't know if you're a pastor now, but you were a pastor. And so you have a deep rooted faith in God. And obviously you were able to see these attacks for what they were. But before we get into all of that, I want to kind of hit on what you just started talking to. And I said, hang on, we should probably just record. So if you could kind of start us off with just what you see happening right now in current times,

because you referenced Heiser and his departure. And I feel like there's a conversation to be had there. Yeah. Wow. Well, Tony, you know, I went to seminary, did all that thing, you know, encountered Jesus, you know, in college during the Jesus movement. And eventually went to seminary. I was a school teacher, taught school for a year, then went to seminary.

and they never taught us about the unseen realm. You know, they never taught us this at all. They never mentioned Genesis 6, I mean, or gloss over it, but, and there is an awakening. You know, I'm not a weirdo, Tony, but I guess I am, right? I mean, I'm not a weirdo. I have a lovely wife, lovely bride, I've got six children, I've got 18 kids, grandchildren, I'm a normal guy that has been awakened to this atmosphere which we live. It's all over in the scriptures. It's everywhere. And yet we passed it off. We just made a

mention of it. And so I mentioned Michael Heiser to you. He was seen as a kook. I mean, he's never mentioned in seminary, you would never mention a guy like Michael Heiser. You know, I mean, I mean, he's a weirdo. He believes in all this stuff. I mean, giants and Nephilim and everything that goes after that. And yet it's everywhere in the scriptures. Yeah. But there's an awakening. And there is a movement of God happening in the earth. And I get emotional because I have prayed for decades for America. And Tony, I said to you that God is using you to awaken people to this realm. And some people would say, like, oh, you're just going after all this stuff. I mean, giants and demons and entities and spirits and dog man and all. No, our focus is Jesus. But this is the realm

from which we live. We need to be aware of these things. And so I see this area that God is awakening. And I mean, because I know that people are being tormented. There are people, you've talked to so many people. There are people who are afraid to go to sleep and close their eyes at night. Because in their words, they come every night and they torment me. And I'm here to tell you that we have the ability through Christ Jesus, to break those things and bring freedom and peace.

And so there's awakening happening. I mean, the whole Charlie Kirk thing. I mean, can you imagine what these entities meant for evil? God is, he's doing what he loves to do. He's turning wrong things right. And so there's this awakening. It's happening. It's happening in believers.

Believers are saying, oh my God, and they're being awakened like only Holy Spirit can do. And we've seen all the videos online of people saying, I've never been to church in my life. I've hated God. And here I find myself in a church this morning. Proudly, I bought my first Bible. And there's awakening happening.

And what you do and the other guys, guys out there, blurry creatures and all these guys, God's using that whole thing. That's just part of this thing to awaken and to set people free in the name and by the blood of Yeshua. Amen. Amen. I agree with you. And I feel like, so if things get lost in the weeds at time, and for me it did for even a while where the, I would say probably, the first, I can't remember the timeline, but there was a period of time during the show where it was more about discovering what I never was taught more than even keeping a focus on Christ in the middle of it all. I would get lost in the weeds. And I remember, and I don't know when

I started having these feelings, but I started remembering, like, or feeling and recognizing where I was going and what I was thinking about. I was like, I'm getting, I'm getting the main message here is getting lost. And so there was a strong conviction. It was probably right around the time. The old listeners of the show, we used to have like an outro every week. I would say goodbye to people. And at the end, I had a catchphrase that I would always say,

which was the truth was set you free, but first it'll piss you off. And I don't know if that's a sin for everybody, but I do know because I started getting convicted about it. It was a sin for me. And I started really getting convicted around the same time that I started realizing that I was more interested in hunting for the quote-unquote truth of the matter of what's out there that the seminary for me never taught either over Christ himself. And then I started looking at that catchphrase as, wait a saying, I'm literally taking something that Jesus said and adding to it. And it bothered me. And it started convicting me. And I don't know if it's something that would have convicted everybody else. I know there's plenty of Christians

who love that catchphrase. And for a period of time, I was fine with it too. But there's just something about it that just wasn't sitting right with me. But maybe it was just a period of my life for me personally where it was like I was going through a spiritual awakening of where I was actually going and at. But here we are today, and the world has gone off the rails. And you referenced how Heiser was a frontline soldier on certain battlefronts. And how he was considered a cook and crazy. And on the human, on the natural side of things, we would look at Heiser and say, man, he's just getting started. And then God took him from this world.

I know. I know. And in the natural, we're like, why? Why? We need Heiser. And I think we have an answer, which is we got Heiser. And Heiser dumped himself into us. And if God didn't take him, we wouldn't have rose up to the occasion.

and it would have been a one-man army. And now it's been multiplied. And you brought up Charlie Kirk, and it's the same thing. We can say he's 31 years old, why? He was just getting started. For the next 30 years, he was going to change the world. And God said, we don't got 30 years. I took him because he did his job.

He dumped himself out there. And now because I took him, there's millions more of Charlie Kirk because we don't got 30 years. And so I need a million of Charlie Kirk's, not just one. And I really feel like, though that might not sit well with some people, I think God takes things that happen in the natural, and he flips them for such a supernatural purpose. And I think that's what we have seen with both those two men. They operated in different spheres. But the reality is when they left this earth, there was a big gap in void that quickly got filled by people who were willing to step up to

the plate. And so it all circles around the supernatural. Both people, all of this, like, that's the thing. Like, you can't look at this work. Like, I mean, for me, I can't. And anybody who listens to this show, this show consistently must be in a similar mindset. You can't look at this world as just a normal, natural thing. There's nothing supernatural about it. I'm not saying there's demons under every rock, but most rocks there are demons under. Like, like, there are. There is a spiritual reason for a lot of things that happen around us. And if we just start getting spiritual eyes, we'll see it. And I'm going to read something to you. And then we'll, I'll let you comment if you want, or we can move into other things. But like I said, right before we started recording,

I, you were saying some things that I was like, you know, this might be an opportunity for me to just kind of get some things off my chest as well. So I'm going to, I referenced this on a previous episode at the time of this recording, the episode just dropped this Tuesday. I mentioned to people that my thoughts on Charlie Kirk were posted on my social media. I think it's just a time thing. I hadn't planned on reading this, but I'm just going to read what I wrote on the social media. So maybe it will paint a picture for people to understand how I view not just the Heiser things. I didn't mention Heiser in here, but Charlie Kirk and how there's a deeper thing at play here. I said, there's a principality orchestrating what you see on the world stage. Behind every

headline, every act of violence, every scheme of corruption are unseen rulers and powers of darkness moving the pieces. And here's the danger. If you think people are the enemy, you're aiming at the wrong target. Yes. The men and women carrying out wickedness are pawns, not masterminds. And in 2nd Corinthians 4-4, it basically spells that out. The real battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the spiritual forces driving them, Ephesion 612. Aim at the spirits, the entities, the principalities behind the veil, because until you do, you will always fight in vain. Too many are stepping into this war unarmed, swinging inferior weapons when God has already placed at your disposal the full arsenal of his power. You're showing up with a stick when you've been

given a nuclear strength through Jesus Christ. Stop fighting with your hands behind your back. Armour up, stand firm, pray with authority. Only when you fight in the spirit can you tear down what's truly orchestrating the chaos in the physical. Pray for the Kirk's, pray for the lost, pray for those who persecute you, pray for the nations, pray because heaven moves when God's people do. So I wrote that. And just to give people a more even current understanding of the power that we possess, my friend Larry Ragland has a church down in Alabama, and he has a YouTube show called The Big Picture. and he was planning on basically leaning back in a recliner and going on easy street retirement essentially. He was going to still pastor, but he was like, my work's done. The kids are out of the

house and all that. And God called him to start a YouTube channel and he's like, what? You know, it was just like, no, but he did. And this past week, he shared on his YouTube channel. And I don't have all the details exact, but I can tell you, Larry and I did a show on Lilith conversation we had together in Florida a few weeks ago. He said that he got attacked after that, and leading up to this week, Lilith, an entity that he believes is Lilith, visited him. And he found himself laying in his bed completely paralyzed and she was laying next to him. And I will spare on all the details because I don't have them all accurately, but he was paralyzed. He couldn't move and he couldn't speak.

Often, and this actually goes in with your story too, often people will say things like, I couldn't say a word except for muster out Jesus. Yes, yes. And then the entity leaves. With Larry, he couldn't even move his mouth to say Jesus, but the spirit man inside of him was screaming Jesus. And that released Lilith off of him. So it's literally not even what you physically can do.

God's not interested in what you can do physically, how smart you are, how biologically sound you are. He cares about how strong you are in the spirit. And Larry was able to declare the name of Jesus through his spirit. And that alone was powerful enough. And that's what I mean when we, and I say we're showing up to the fight with the wrong arsenal. We're relying too much on what we can do in the physical. We're relying too much on the fact that we can hold hands, stand in a circle and pray.

We're relying too much on the idea that we have guns and we're going to go fight back in civil war. We're going to shoot, shoot, shoot until somebody's laying six feet under. This is not the war you fight here. This is not how you've got. fight this war because as soon as the enemy that you perceive as a physical enemy and threat is done, the next one rises up. We must fight the principalities and we do have the fight power for it. We must rise up in the spirit and we must pray against this. We actually have to like literally chase after Jesus. We have to chase after a relationship with him that this is how we fight.

It is not just talk. It's not the act of, oh, I read my Bible for 5, 10, 15 an hour today. It's not about the acts as much as how much does your heart strive for a connection with Christ? Like, it's truly your spirit chasing after your maker. And it has to come from deep within. That's how we fight. we can fight on our knees and pray. We can fight standing in circles and praying. We can fight all those ways, reading our scriptures, sitting down with our kids and praying with them. Yes, but it's deeper than that. That's the physical manifestation of something so deeply spiritual. And that deeply spiritual thing is the nuclear bomb that God has given us to release any time we want. And so with the Heiser thing you brought up and the Charlie Kirk stuff, like, I haven't been able to truly express how I feel on a recording until now.

It just, this called a God moment, you know, God's timing. But I really, I really want people to understand how deep this fight is. in the spiritual. It is not a physical fight. Charlie died in the physical, but he's still alive. Amen. And so, like, we have to stop acting like we can stop a war in the physical when it didn't start there. We have to fight it and cut it off at the roots, which is in the spiritual. So I'm going to get off my soapbox now. And I'll tell you what, Kenny, I'm going to be 100% transparent with you and the audience. Obviously, people know my wife is fighting cancer. At the time of this recording, it's been an absolute terrible three to four weeks for me. Outside of my wife's health,

it's like everything has been just coming up against me. I'm trying to finish writing a book, and every day I'm getting text messages from somebody who says, do you have a few minutes for a phone call? It's like, I don't. And it's just like, there's so, there's so, much, there's so much stuff going on right now. I can't, I can't go into great details, but we've been under a lot of spiritual attack. And today, I was feeling it greatly. I have another interview with another lady after you. And I was attacked spiritually so strong the day I was supposed to record her a few weeks ago. I had to postpone. I called her, and I was like, she could hear it in me. I was like, I'm not, I'm not in the headspace to record

today. And logging on with you today, I was being severely attacked. Depression, anxiety, I have things I have to do next week that I just have zero interest in doing, and I wish I wouldn't have committed to doing it. But all this stuff was rising up. And now that you and I have talked for, what, 20 minutes here on the recording, I feel like this release. Amen, Tony. I think because it's spiritual and there was a conversation that's being had today, maybe even two with the other lady, that doesn't, is, it's actively trying to prevent from getting out. And so not the typical show opener, because I usually, we usually jump right into people's stuff, but, you know, I think it's, I think it was worth, worth doing. And I'll let you, I'll let you,

contribute, anything you want to contribute, and then we'll start transitioning into some of the stuff you contact us about. Well, I was deeply touched as you're speaking. I mean, my spirit man, you said it, man. Tony, you get it. You get it. It's not this. It's not this stuff. It's not that. It's not that. We are way more spiritual than we are this shell. and people are waking up. Yes. But Tony, I took, I'm a risk taker. I'm very not normal.

And I saw this weeks ago, and I keep seeing it, and I asked you in our pre-conversation, can I do this? And you said, you just do it. And so I saw us recording like this in the spirit. And then I said, I want to pray for Lindsay. by the way, I do pray for her. She's written. She pops up in my calendar.

And I spent almost an hour at five in the morning this morning, laying in bed, praying in the spirit. I mean, I'm a crazy guy. I believe it all. And I'm praying over her. You can tell when you're praying in the spirit that a lot of it, most of it, was praying for your dear bride, Lindsay.

And I was praying for your dear bride, Lindsay. you, I was praying over this whole Charlie Kirk thing, and for Erica and the kids, and for America and the nations. But in that, I just said, and I'll say it now, Tony, I just want to pray right now, right now, while this is where we're live. And I want to ask those who are listening, those who are watching, those of you who believe in Jesus and the power of Yeshua and the blood of the Lamb, and even those of you who do not, I'm here to tell you, you can join us. And so right now I'm asking everybody listening and be even crazy, maybe even touch the screen, grab some oil, touch the screen, just be crazy and believe that we are given authority by the blood of the

lamb to pray and to declare healing over your dear bride Lindsay. So join with me now, everybody out there. So Lord, right now, in the name of Jesus, by the word of our testimony of Jesus and by the blood of the lamb, we overcome the evil one and all the evil entities, all the spirits and principalities and demons and all evil forces right now. And we speak as a family right now, and we speak over Lindsay. And we say, Lindsay, be healed. Tumers, masses, foreign bodies, be removed and dissolved at the name of Yeshua. Yes, Lord, yes, Lord, yes, Lord.

And I speak to even greater peace over Tony right now, God. Lord, use the Merkel family. Lord, raise up Tony even more, God, to be a proclaimer of the truth. God, thank you, God. Thank you, Lord Jesus. We're believing for great things in our sister. Tony's dear bride,

by the name, the power, and the blood of Jesus. Amen. Amen. Amen. Kenny, welcome to the show. Wild stuff, man. That is a wild way to open up my show. I think that that was divinely inspired and ordained.

Yes, Lord. I know for a fact, 100% there's not a doubt in my soul that the absolute attacks that I was going through, even up into this morning, getting ready for this recording, had a lot to do with this. I mean, even technological, we had computer issues in here, which has given me, you know, the reason in the book to, I, computer's not working, you know, it's just a bad day. But I'm very grateful I pushed through. And I hope that the rest of this conference,

I hope blesses people as we move forward. But I think the blessing might be in different categories, let's say, because what we're about to jump into is the reality of human trafficking. And what I want to do before we get into your experiences that happened to you, which I think are pretty radical. I want to know more about why, what inspired you to get involved in fighting human trafficking? What inspired the organization? Because certainly it wasn't something that you just woke up one day and started doing. There's something that happened. So I'd like to hear about that. Yeah. All right. Let's take a second to talk about our sponsor today, which is Simply Safe. And Simply Safe is real security that stops crime before it

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And right now, my listeners can save 50% on Simply Save Home Security System at C. simplysafe.com slash confessions. That's simplysafe.com slash confessions. There's no safe like SimplySafe. Well, it goes back. You know, I went to college, taught school for a year, then went to seminary, did that whole thing, became a pastor. I never fit. I didn't fit. It's like all the fish are swimming this way and I'm going this way. I didn't fit. But I've always had this, this heart, this heart saying, oh God, whatever you want, whatever you want, God. And Tony, I prayed for decades. God, break my heart for the things that break yours.

I sincerely prayed that. Even to the point, I'd say, give me your nose. I want to smell what you smell. Give me your ears. I want to hear what you hear, God. And all the senses, give me your feet that I may walk where you walk. give me your hands and I may touch who you touch. And so I was a basketball coach,

and everybody calls me coach in the world. And we went to the Philippines. And in short, I saw the sex trade, Tony. And if you've been earnestly praying, God, break my heart for the things that break yours. In fact, Tony, I rarely even refer to it as human, trafficking because that's not personal enough. It's girls being sold in the sex trade. And I have five daughters and a son. And I kept seeing my five daughters. And I go, oh, God,

even now I feel the emotion. I mean, you have children. People who are listening to have children. They have sisters. They have moms. They've got cousins, female cousins. Can you imagine them being trapped in the sectrate? And in this case, because of their poverty, they were tricked and trafficked. And so it was just, I saw it. And I just said, oh, God, I'll do anything. I was sitting there crying at my computer. When I saw it, I was on my computer. I thought, what in the world is this? How do you traffic a living human being? How do you traffic a person? I know he can traffic drugs and blue jeans. They trafficked blue jeans back in the 60s and 70s into Russia.

How do you traffic a living, breathing girl? And I was broken, and I just said, oh, God, I'll do anything if I could just set one girl free. Well, he took me up on that. You know, he loves a yes. Oh, how he loves a yes. Yes. And I didn't go, here I am, send me, oh God. It was like, oh, God, I kind of sort of. How, from Boise, Idaho, how can I, how can I rescue a girl on the other side of the world? Well, he just, and just things happened. We just took a lot of risk, and we opened up wipe every tear. We had no money. God just provided, you know, he's a good God. in short that's how it all started tony and we just started going to these bars we didn't know what we're

doing but we knew that god loves people he despises he abhors the sex trade and so we just simply want to make wrong things right in the name of jesus and uh in short that's what we did the old basketball coach and high school teacher So were you a pastor at that time when that all happened? Or were you just the high school and high school basketball coaching teacher? Yeah, I wasn't the pastor, the brick and mortar, the suit and tie. But I was in the gift of being a pastor, you know, pastors, apostles, prophets, evangelist, teachers, right? But no, I was teaching school.

I was teaching you in a Christian high school. They allowed me to be crazy, you know, and bring the kingdom into my room. By the way, we'd see kids get healed. We'd see Holy Spirit come in the middle of a classroom, in the middle of a history classroom. And that's just how I operated. But, yeah, so once a pastor,

if you are a pastor, you know, his gifts, his gifts, they're forever. You know, he doesn't call them back, and he gifts you with certain things. So I continue to be a, I'm very pastoral. Yeah, I can tell. I can see that on your heart. You have a pastoral heart.

Thank you, man. Which is, it's beautiful. So this all happened, and when did this transition for you to start happening, though? I want to say 2012, but I know 2012 happened with the first, I think it was the first experience, But was it around that time that all this started happening?

I began wipe every tear in 2008, you know, just from my classroom and one of my, one of the dads from, you know, my kids' fathers, my students' fathers. And we just did that 501C3 thing, you know, with the IRS and did that, and we just started doing stuff. And that was 2008. We were simply helping impoverished girls, women, family. in the slums of Manila. It was 2007, we took our first basketball team. In 2008, I took a volleyball team of girls from our school.

And then we just kept doing that every year. And I saw the sex rate in 2008. Saw it online, actually. I was home, and it just popped up in the old pop-up days. And it said human trafficking. I thought, what in the world is that? I clicked. And I found myself that night, December of,

2008, sitting there crying at my computer, just crying. There were tears on my, you know, the laptop that kind of comes apart. You know, you're sitting there. And there were just tears on my laptop, on my keyboard. And that's just how it began. I just, so, but we didn't get our first safe house until 2012. God was tutoring me, disciplining me for three years. and in 2011 we went to go find the sex trade with a high school volleyball team.

How does that work? I know. Remember I told you, and I don't boast. I'm not boasting about how cool I am, but I just never fit, you know, there I am, swimming against the grain. And I'm in class, I'm always taking, you know, I'm taking these trips back and forth to Philippines, right? And I'd come in class and I'd tell my classes about the sex trade. Do you guys know, the sex trade exists in the world?

And I'd be sharing this stuff. I'd break down crying, sobbing in my class sometime. So broken. And so it was time for a volleyball team to go in 2011. And I told my volleyball girls, I said, hey, do you want to go find the sex trade? Yes, let's go to it, Mr. Sack. You've been telling us about the sex trade. trade.

Hold on the permission slip, was it? I've got a story there. I know it's easier to not ask for permission with your administration. How in the world are you going to go to the principal,

the vice principal? In this case, a wonderful friend of mine, Brad Carr, he was on a wipe every tier board for years, founding board member, fellow coach, I coach with Brad,

and he calls me in his office one day. And he says, and he wasn't like, hey, Kenny, how you did it? It was like, sit down. He knows. Does he know? I think he knows. I knew in the spirit. I knew in the spirit immediately what it was about.

And he goes, what are you doing? Brad, if you, I'm going to send this to Brad. Whenever you air this, I'm going to send him. Brad says, he leans across. He goes, what are you doing? I go, and I knew. I go, what do you mean? What are you doing with the volleyball team?

And I go, oh, you know, like the basketball. Because Brad has been on the basketball trip. I go, we're just doing the volleyball thing, you know, we do it. And he goes, no, no, no, I'm not talking about that. And I knew, I knew exactly what he wanted. I wouldn't give it to him, right? And so he says, the sex trade, the sex trade, taking high school kids? And I go, yeah.

and then I start like with this with this like this anointing this this this this this welling up inside of you and I said here we are in a Christian high school we want to raise up Jesus followers in all areas of life in the legal field in the business world garbage men nurses business women everything I said and now you're saying don't lead a team to go find girls in the sex trade and set them free. And he just, you're getting a short story here. And he just goes, oh gosh, you've never let me down. Please don't let me down.

Can you believe we went to go find the sex trade in Southeast Asia on the other side of the world with high school volleyball players? We did the volleyball, we did the volleyball thing. We did a team camp with this church in the slum. it's really, really good. And we normally go the week after, and then we spend time with the church and do stuff. Well, we did one week,

and the next week, girls, let's go find the sex trade. Yes. And their parents, can you believe I had a parent meeting? And I talked to her. So you told the parents at least before this happened. Yeah, of course, right? You know, so I told the parents, there wasn't one parent who said,

No. Wow. So it's a God thing. They all said, Kenny, coach, we trust you. And they said, you go. That's how, that's how we started the sex trade. So we went and found, we saw it, my wife went with me, I had some of my own children with me, I had a daughter-in-law with me, and we saw it.

And Tony, I've never been the same since. Oh, God, break my heart with the things that break yours. And so we started, I didn't have any money, Tony. I, we just did it. Because his heart is to set people free from the dark entities that are trying to rule the world, the spiritual battle. You mentioned your opening, brother, so good. By the way, I'm going to rewind a little bit. You talk about your journey.

I tell people, I say, hey, listen, there's this guy called Tony Merkel, the Confessionals. You've got to listen. I said, if you listen to the early ones, you're going to go like, why did you direct me this way? But I said, and I say this, he had some kind of transformation because he would mention these spiritual things, but I said, now Tony is all about the kingdom. him. He's unashamed, unabashedly mentions the name and the blood of Jesus. And I tell people that. If you listen early, you know, you might be, and I said, listen to the later ones. And so, Tony, I'm just here to say, man, God's using you to help awaken us to this battle that

is taking place. And we saw it recently manifest with Charlie Kirk. They thought they can get rid of of Charlie and get rid of the message, well, they simply multiplied it. There's so many things here, Tony. But everything, everything is about Jesus. Everything. Everything. And that's where the piece comes in. Like in the middle of this crazy storm, we all have our personal storm, and then we're all living through a giant storm together. in the middle of all this, like you legit can have peace if you literally understand the foundational piece of your life. If you can accept and understand that it's all about Jesus all the time,

it doesn't matter what life circumstances you find yourself in. It doesn't matter if you're king of the world in the podcast industry or you're living down by the river in a van. You know, like it doesn't matter because the mission, your life mission, is the same, no matter. where you go, no matter what's going on, it's about Jesus. And I would say that, yeah, there was a switch that was flipped with me and it was because of the show. So, like, I would listen to Heiser, but I was intellectually intimidated by people like Heiser for many years. And it was a combination of a lot of things, but I'll say, one, I had enough of not talking about some things like that Heiser would talk about just because I was intimidated because I felt like I wasn't smart

enough. But also, there was some of the stories I was uncovering, I couldn't unhear. And I knew some of the stories I was hearing, I knew for a fact were real and true. And if that was real and true, it does something to you. It changes you. And you. you are faced with the decision, do I stay the course because that's how it's always been? That's the definition of a sellout. Or do I change with actually the new information I have, the understandings I have, do I allow that new me to come through the microphone? And so I looked myself in the mirror and I said, I can't just keep things going as is. Like, are we going talk about Bigfoot and Dogman? Yes, of course. It's all part of it. It's all part of it. But we're not

going to pretend we don't understand the deep-rooted spiritual warfare that's behind all this. Like, we're not going to act like, oh, well, maybe one day we'll find the giant creature living in the forest that we just can't capture. There's a reason why we can't keep up with it. And it's because it's more than just a physical creature. And so there's all those revelations I started having, the spiritual warfare, the fact that that people are being recruited, they're working for entities, all this stuff like molds you as a human being and understanding how the supernatural realm works and operates. And you start understanding that you're not, I'm not a scholar, I'm not a theologian, but I do have access to information that many people of those ranks don't have access to. So in a sense, with my weird bag of tricks,

I am a theologian. And then what happened on top of all that was I was on Instagram for about a month straight and a single Instagram reel continue to pop up on my feed. And every time I saw it, I was fascinated by it, every time I saw it, I watched it. And because I'm slow, okay, it takes a while for the messaging to sink into my thick skull. And I realized, I wonder if I should reach out to this guy. Maybe I should reach out to him and see if he'd come on the show because it was a pastor who would open up this reel saying, portals to hell are real.

And I'm like, what the? And I was like, this is such a good reel. And I was like, maybe I'll reach out to this guy. And I reached out to him. He came on the show. He sat and talked with me for about 30 minutes before we started even recording just to get to know me. And his name is Alan Didio. And when I invited Alan on the show, my life changed. And it wasn't because of what Alan did on that show. It's because of what Alan did

after the show. After the show, Alan invited me to an event where I met other people and I met other pastors that Alan rubbed shoulders with. And now I do too. And those men were brought into my life at a very strategic time, God's timing, for me to be molded by people who were on the same page as me and were there to encourage me. For the first time, I feel like this interview is just going about me, but I'm just, for the first time my life, I was surrounded by people who were calling what I do a ministry, which in my heart I felt like it was, but nobody else around me was calling it ministry, so I felt uncomfortable doing that. And they unlocked me. You know, a Troy Brewer unlocked me.

Troy Brewer was a listener of the show, a fan of the show, and then he comes alongside of me and unlocks. And so it's not over yet. I'm called to be an evangelist. And I do. I guess this show is that, but I know, I know I'm going to be speaking publicly about Jesus in front of hundreds, thousands of people. I know that's going to happen.

but God also told me the time is yet to come. The callings on my life, but the doors haven't opened. And I'm okay with that. I don't seek the doors. I'm not, I don't ask, I don't ask people that I know that are pastors, hey, can I come preach at your church? The only place I preached was my church, my pastor put me on twice, and the Lord is training me in ways that I don't even totally comprehend. But I do, know that one day he is going to unlock the next level of this, and that is going to be a reality. And I will be sharing my life story, my testimony, and preaching Jesus to thousands of, I believe that. I do too. I do too, man. Amen. We know that's God's heart. God's heart is to set people free. I mean, yes, in Jesus' name, I speak that over you now.

Yes, Lord, may it be. So, man, the reason, you know what? I know we have our preconceived ideas, and I know you do as the host. This is more, right? But you know what, God, I saw this. I saw this kind of stuff happening in the spirit for the past. previous weeks? It's not amazing that God would give me...

Yeah. Like, I can see some of this stuff, right? I, you know what, I'm... I've just seen this transition in you, and I just, I literally, I'll be listening to you, and I just, and I'm just thanking God, and I pray over you, and I say, yes, Lord, yes, Lord. And I think of all the people who are listening,

and there's that fringe. People are saying, I don't know about this Jesus stuff. But you know what? Holy Spirit is now giving them eyes to see and ears to hear. And even right now, Tony, as people are listening to this broadcast, this video, they're being touched by Holy Spirit even right now. Just think about that. He's setting captives free, and they are getting life.

of this abundant life. Yeah. No, I agree with you. There are people, I know, that, you know, watch or view and they get mad when this kind of conversation comes up. And I can just tell you, I did too. Like, I was literally sitting in the church at a funeral, and my wife's uncle got up and preached the gospel because he looked at the person doing the service and said, since nobody

else is going to do it, I'll do it. and he starts preaching the gospel, and I was angry for it. I was mad at him. I was like, he was preaching Jesus, and I was like, my blood pressure was rising. My face was probably bright red because I was embarrassed of what he was doing. He was talking about Jesus. It was an embarrassing to me. Like, there was this absolute demonic disdain that was in my life for Christ.

And in that moment is when the Holy Spirit spoke to me. For the first time of my life, I felt the Holy Spirit directly speak to me and said, You don't need to change to come to me, just come to me and I'll change you. It was like God walked into the room. And it was like the matrix where all of a sudden you find yourself in an empty room talking to Morpheus. That's what it was like. All of a sudden, I went from being at a funeral to I was the only one in the room. And Jesus Christ was speaking directly to my heart and saying, just come to me and I'll change you.

And so, that said, if you feel that way right now, Now, let the Holy Spirit just come in and speak to you and change you. And I tell everybody, I just talk to this one guy the other day. I rarely, I really go into my social media DMs and stuff. But for what, oh, I was DMing a prospective guest on X. And that's why I was there. And I saw somebody DM'd me. And it was, it's something in the first few words caught my attention. I opened it up. And the guy said, I've been listening to your show. I love your show. And I'm, I'm trying to get back. into, I feel led to get back into my relation with God. And I want to get, I want to get a Bible. And what do you recommend? And so I recommended him a bunch of translations because I told him,

I said, it's not about the translation. It's about the Holy Spirit that wrote the Bible. And I told him, I said, all you got to do is whatever you settle in on. If you want to go KJV and maybe struggle understanding it, but it's fun for you, fine. Or you can go NLT, where it's a little bit easier. Yes. Yes. And I said, at the end of the day, before you start reading, I said, just ask the Holy Spirit to reveal himself to you as you read, and he will. And that's what I would say to everybody right now. Like if you, if you feel that way, I would just say pray. And it's not, you don't have to do anything special. You just say, God, I'm trying here. So just reveal yourself to me. If you're real, show me. And he will. He has for hundreds,

thousands of people, millions of people, and you're nothing special. He will do it for you too. So, Kenny, we are 50 minutes in. Let's get some of the other stuff here because I keep getting sidetrack with you. It's a Holy Spirit thing, I'd say. It is, brother. God ordained. God's doing it. That's what he's doing in the earth right now. Yes. He's doing this. Do you realize that multitudes and multitudes are turning their faces towards. Jesus right now. There is an awakening happening in the United States of America

and in this world. And you and I, as we walk low, get to be part of this. We get to be part of this. I mean, can you imagine such a thing that he invites us to be part of this? A holy, all-powerful God

wants to partner with his creation. with little Tony and Kenny, it's mind-boggling. That's wild. And when that creation decides to sell out for its maker, it comes under attack. That's my transition here, because... What? So, and that's kind of what happened with you. You said yes to the things that broke the Lord's heart, and they broke your heart.

You say yes, and you start coming under attack. And I want you to share about some of these attacks because that's one thing. Like we've been talking about this whole show, the realities of the supernatural realm. And part of the realities of the supernatural realm is when you actually are serious about fighting the darkness and pulling the curtain back on its schemes, it doesn't just lay there and play dead and like, oh, maybe they'll walk away. It gets up, walks over to you and spits in your face. And that is what you experienced. Once you started saying yes to this, you started getting attacked

supernaturally. And I'd like for you to share, I think the first thing that really started happening, but if not, I still want to hear this first, is when you were in your car and that whole situation, because I think it really builds the tangible picture that people wonder sometimes as to what the difference is between a spiritual attack and a physical manifestation of attack because sometimes there's not much of a veil between the two. They're pretty much one and the same. Yeah, that's right. And if I could, yeah, it really amped up during that time. But there were the years prior to that, when the enemy saw me on my knees, and just worshiping and giving adoration to Holy Spirit,

to the Son Jesus, to Abba Father, it really bothered him. And so we found ourselves living in California. For a very short time, my uncle invited us to come down and be a part of his business. And we did. And we end up finding, we started having these manifestations in our house and in the neighborhood these lights were flashing these like lightning was flashing

in our backyard and it gradually over days and week got closer and closer and closer got to the window and it would light up the whole inside of our house and then I would be driving home

from work and it would be during the winter and it was dark I'd be driving home and I'd see this lightning over Oceano, California five cities area, Pismo Beach area. And I'd see this lightning. And I'd think, oh, wow. And then over,

over days and weeks, I'd get closer. And I'd go like, oh, wow, that's over our city, a very small little town. And then over days and weeks, wow, that's, that's over our neighborhood. And it got to be, I'd turn onto our street and our street would light up. I mean as bright as you can imagine, br-z-you- I'd go like, what? To the point of where it kept increasing. And I drove into my driveway one night,

and the lightning bolt came out of, but it wasn't the lightning that we see here, but it was this bright bolt of lightning came down on top of our house and went, So I could finally go to the neighbors And I said, hey, you know, across the street, you know. Hey, I'm just curious, you know,

All these flashes that we have in our neighborhood And they looked at me like, what? And they had this big picture window, huge picture window that looks out over the neighborhood. They go flashes and I go, yeah, you know how are there's flashes of light and stuff? And they're going, uh, No. And I thought, what? Only me and my bride and my children are seeing these things. We're the only ones. Things start happening. Our lights start going, like Hollywood does it. You know, like a Hollywood movie, like a horror thing. And then my daughter, Katie, she's just a little infant. She's in a high chair. And she gets pulled out of her chair.

She gets thrown out of her chair. And, I mean, ejected, boom, starts bleeding from her throat down here. I called dial a nurse. They said, no, there's no way for blood to come from down here. I go, yeah, she bit her lip. I go, she did not bite her lip. She did not bite her tongue. And the nurse is just saying, it's impossible.

And I'm going like, wait a second. These are attacks. We had all sorts of attacks, all sorts of things. Guess what? We found out that we were living on an ancient Indian burial ground. Of course. Of course. They had built this thing.

And this neighborhood, it was older neighborhood, it had been built before now. You know, they don't do that. You know, they leave a sacred ground. Or they remove all the remains and they take them and they do their ceremonies and they, you know, re-burry them with honor and dignity. I have one story after another. So these things, because I was humbling myself before a mighty God and saying, God, I just want to do kingdom stuff. I want my neighbors to know you.

I don't want people to die. There is a hell. There is an eternal darkness, and there is life and eternal light. So fast forwarding, uh, 2012, we're on this trip and, uh,

I'm, I'm taking my first mission team. After we'd established wipe every tier and after we started, we're going to go to the secretary. I take this team. I do my first mission team. And they're all kids from Coal Valley Christian high school in Boise,

I know. And then, and then a few of the graduates that were like college kids. And there was a handful. full of parents. So we have meetings, you know, you do mission team meetings and stuff. So it's where, school gets out, graduation, teachers were while wore out, you know, I was like, oh, God.

And then we have our last meeting with the kids and whatnot. And I'm heading home about three days before we go. I'm driving home and we're going to take a mission team to the sex trade. That's what we're going to do. and I get to this, we live out in the country a little bit, and I get to the stop sign. It's dark, there's no stoplights, and there's cattle and horses and stuff and farmhouses, and there's a car in front of me, another car to the side there looking like this here, you know.

And this entity, this person appears in the left-hand side of me next to the car, and he just stares at me. walks in front of the car in front of me, and he disappeared. I could, I could see through the window, but he disappeared. And I went, what? What? Like, was he getting out to get something off the, what did I miss? I'm tired.

It's about, you know, 9, 30, 10 o'clock at night. And this car takes off, and then this car takes off, and I'm following this car, and I go to another mile, another stop sign, it's dark. This time I'm much closer, much closer to the car, for some reason. this man appears a second time. This time he looks at me with more beady eyes. He looks at me, and he walks in front of the car. And he walks in front of the car.

He disappears again. I go, I can see through the windows. You know, I can see through the windows of the car in front of me. I can see. But he disappeared. How is this? And then all of a sudden, Tony, he, he, uh, This is the car.

He gets up on top of the car and he leans forward on the hood of the car and he leans forward, if you can picture that, he leans forward and then he says the following. By the way, without opening his mouth.

And I'm not a demon under every bush kind of guy. I like, you know. And he says, I hate what you're doing. And then he amped up. He goes, especially the sex trade. And he does this blood-curdling shout cry.

And then he goes down. And the car takes off. And I thought, with my physical mind, my physical eyes, I have to get one more look. And I go, I'm going to turn left. I go, and I want to get an angle. And I look in the front of the. that car and there's no man on that car. And I go, what in the world did I just experience? As I'm

driving away, I'm driving now, a little tiny 1981 Toyota Tercell, the old car. And God speaks, God speaks to me. I hear his voice. And he says, there's a normal voice. He wanted to get on your car. I would not allow him. He wants to kill you now. He wants you to fall asleep and hit that power pole and you will die instantly. That's his plan. And then God says, oh, he said, he wants to jump on the top of your car right now. I will not allow him.

and Tony I had this this vision of what it would be for someone to land on your car those of you who are listening and watching imagine that that thump sound like on your car like some scary movie and then God said

he wants to look he wants to get in the windshield and look at you upside down not as the man that you just saw, but as who he really is. And I went, oh, God, oh God. I'm praying in the spirit. I got my hand on the roof like this here. I'm praying like in Jesus' name, no, you know, as if God's not enough, you know? And he says, and then God, I'm driving, and then God shows me my newspaper obituary. What would be if the enemy had his way? I'm driving, Tony, and I'm reading a news.

newspaper obituary. Kenny Sack, coach, you know, pastor, teachers at Cold Valley Christian High School, basketball coach started wipe every tear, da-da-da-da-da, survived by his lovely bride DA and his six children and grandchildren, et cetera, da-da-da-da, services, whatever, you know. That's how we started going into the sex trade. And, you know, I walked home in my kids who had been at the meeting, you know, like college-age kids and high school kid, I walked in and my wife goes, what happened to you? They could see it on me. And I just said, you'll never believe it.

You'll never believe this story. What just happened to me. I shared it with them. One of my girls had to get and walk out. She just can't handle that stuff. She has, I got to get out, daddy, you know. I mean, they've been hearing years of these kinds of. of stories, right, of just going back to our house in California and so many other things.

I could tell you story after story. But that's how we begin going to the sex trade. There are dark forces. They are real. And Tony, that's what you do. That's what the blurry creature guys do. That's what, you know, the Sasquatch West at Sasquatch Chronicles. All that stuff is spiritual as well as physical. God uses physical and spiritual. We are physical also. And spiritual at the same time. Yes. And people are awakening up.

There are people probably listening to this and going like, I think I'm waking up. Maybe I do believe in giants. What about all those UFO stuff? What about all this? What about these creatures? What about these things in the sky? I've experienced so much of this stuff.

It's real. it's real. It absolutely is real. And I would say we're a little more than an hour into this recording. So if they have made it this far, then maybe they are coming around to it. Because, you know, we started off the show hot out the gates. And so it wasn't for the fate of heart, that's for sure. Do you think that that experience you had, if it, do you think it would have scared you

away from doing this if God had not interacted with you afterwards to assure you, you know, like he showed you things and spoke to you after a demonic entity, principality spoke to you. If you take God out of that moment and God never

vocalized anything to you and you just had that experience, do you think it would have deterred you at all from doing what you were doing? It may have deterred me somehow. But I have used that. I always come back to that, Tony.

And I tell my staff, my love, I have a wonderful Filipino staff in the Philippines. Hello to you guys. I love you guys so much. We have missionaries. We have hello to all of you guys. I refer back to it. And I tell my staff, my wife and I, we talk and we say, remember how it all began? There is a God who is greater.

There is a God who is stronger. He's mightier. But we really do have a real battle. And you know what? In real battles, there are casualties. And Charlie Kirk was a casualty. Unfortunately, there are casualties in this battle. But God will have his way.

And so I have gone back to that. over and over and over again. Number one, the enemy hates what we're doing. Don't stop. You know, we've seen the scriptures, you know. Was it Paul talking to Timothy saying, do not tire in doing good. Don't grow weary and doing good.

You know how it is, right? We get tired. We're up late. You're dealing with Lindsay's thing. you know, and all the stuff that you, that you, that you, that you, that you, that you, we experience. Just this week, my wife says, you, you, you can't, you can't just stop now. Because there's times you feel like just running away and just let it all, you know, like, is it worth it? Yeah.

And you go, oh no, no, it's worth it. It's worth it. In our case, to see these girls get set free from these bars and the sex trade, We put them in college. They graduate from college and they become fill in the blank, whatever they want to do. We let them choose. And then months, years later, they stay in contact with you and they say, oh, coach, thank you for coming into that bar that night. Thank you.

One of our girls is in a bar. Tony, she's a pastor proclaiming Jesus. Wow. It's worth it, Tony. Yeah. Brother, don't stop doing good. Do not grow weary, brother. Don't grow weary.

It's worth it. I appreciate it. I do. Man, this recording went a different direction than I thought. But I think there are times that you prepare to talk to somebody

and you just don't have the supernatural agenda. And so the divine agenda kicked in, which is always a better time for me. Listen, we're going to bring this in for landing here. I want to open up an invitation to you at some point. If you're ever flying over Tennessee and you wanted to stop in, the doors open if you wanted to sit at the table.

We could have another good conversation. I know you have a lot of other things. You've referenced having a lot of other things. but this conversation, I think, took a different turn, and we're not going to try forcing a square peg into a round hole. So we're going to bring this in. Tell people where they can find your organization and how they can help. Yeah, first, Tony, I commit to come into Tennessee,

whether I'm flying over or not, because I'll do anything. I'll do anything in the hour which we live. And I know God's using you, so guess you. what, I'll come to Tennessee. I will. Awesome. I'll do it. So they can find a wipe every tear on Instagram and Facebook and then at wipeveryteer.org. And if I could say this, and people tell me, don't you dare give your phone number out. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. No, you know what? I know. But the Lord has said, it's okay.

And so I'm going to give you this phone number. Believe it or not. I mean, I can put on silent when I need to. I can get back to people because I know there are people who are listening who are saying, number one, I am being tormented. Is there really a way? Is there really a way? Is there really a way for this to stop?

And I'm here to tell you to that. woman, that guy, there is. And I'm willing to take a phone call to begin that process in your life to set you free. And 208, here goes, 208-866-1967. And if you want to know more about white baby tear, like if you want, by the way, we take foreigners. Our Filipino staff cannot get into these 240 bars in this place called Angela City, the city of angels, our in-country staff cannot go into the bars. No Filipinos allowed in the Philippines, in the nation of the Philippines, only foreigners. I'm putting a call out there for men and women to come. We need you to come and join mission teams to come because then you are the ticket to go. To go. Because then you are the ticket

to, we go into, we do crazy stuff. We go into these bars. We proclaim Jesus. We see, Tony, we see the miraculous. We see the supernatural manifest in these bars and girls get out. But we need foreigners to come. That's the only way we can get in. So, and if you want to give, we're all, we need money to do what we do.

I unashamedly say that. You know, wipe every tear. dot org. You can go there, you can donate. Say, yeah, I'd like to be a part of helping girls. Get set free. And by the way, we are Jesus people. We want them to encounter Jesus and counter Holy Spirit and then get a degree. Why a degree? Because in the Philippines, you can't work at McDonald's without a college degree, plain and simple. And we want to prepare her for the rest of her life so that she is free and free indeed. That's why I'm very tear.

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