The Confessionals - 833: From Occult Training to Global Supernatural Encounters

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

Darren Canning joins Tony for a wide-ranging and intense conversation about deliverance, spiritual warfare, and the hidden mechanics of the supernatural world. Darren shares firsthand accounts of demonic encounters, angelic protection, witchcraft within systems of power, and how deception operates through government, religion, and culture. He recounts dramatic moments of healing, near death, and radical faith that carried him across nations with no resources except obedience to God. The discussion also explores dreams, visions, Nephilim influence, and why purity, humility, and discernment are essential for believers navigating unseen battles. This episode is raw, unscripted, and filled with stories that challenge modern Christian comfort zones while pointing back to the authority found in Christ alone.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HEREThe Big Picture Prophecy Conference: prophecyconference26.comTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] CanningWebsite | YouTubeMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICTony Merkel - Break The Spell

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Prophecy Conference 26.com link in the description of this episode. Now, today's conversation is not theory. It's a testimony from someone who has seen both sides of the veil. Before walking with Christ, Darren Canning was trained in occult practices while operating inside government systems, learning firsthand how power, influence and spiritual forces intertwined at the highest levels. After leaving that world, his life became marked by intense supernatural encounters across the globe, from spiritual warfare overseas to moments where the unseen turned undeniably physical. This is a firsthand account of what happens when darkness is confronted, authority is tested, and the supernatural reveals itself nation by nation. Let's get to Darren Canning right now.

Are you familiar with L.A. Marzuli? No. So L.A. Marzuli has been a researcher. I always tell people I've been to a thousand places, and everywhere I go, they tell me about people I don't know. That's crazy. It's fine. So he's been around a pretty long time. He does a lot of work on, like, research on, like, the Nephilim and ancient origins and things like that.

And I've been telling him, because he's been on the show, like, three times. Do you know, I've seen the Nifflin spaceships, like these spaceships above every city where there's demonic, there's like they're like the principalities of powers. Like UFOs. I saw a UFO or I've seen this dozen times in dreams. Like I'm looking up and a four kilometer long UFO is floating into over the city. And you know like Independence Day? Yeah, yeah. Looks like this.

And coming out is the power that saturate. and controls the cities. That is so prophetic. That is so... I haven't seen it, but I've seen... I've had to hide, and one time this dream, I had to find a box of swords that were like lightsabers to fight them with. So these are the word, the light represents the word that takes them out.

So what we need is the word that takes them out. Ephesians chapter three. I'm so glad you're here. Ephesians chapter three says, the manifest wisdoms of God are given to the bride of Christ to put the powers and principalities on notice. So Ezekiel chapter 37, where the prophet is with God talking about the valley, can these bones live? Was a manifest wisdom of resurrection power that when he spoke it, the power of death over the valley had no choice but let life come back into the bones.

That's what God wants us to do. Wow. Wow. That's why, did you record, are you recording? All right, cool. We're going to start the show because I want that, I want that in the beginning of the show. I love it. I absolutely love it. All right. So today we have Darren Canning in studio. Darren, how are you, sir? Oh, I'm just honored to be here. It's good to see your face, you know. I'm glad you're here. And so just to let people know how this kind of came together, I was, I was sitting in my living room and a mic signer, video popped up. He's my good friend. I love that guy. Yeah. The way he titled the video is something, it was something up my alley. And I was like, oh, let me, let me check this out. And I watched the whole video. I think it was probably about 30, 40 minutes long. And I think I text Mike first. And I said, hey, do you think Darren would come on the show with me? And he said, yeah, man, reach out to him and stuff. So I reached out to you. And here you are. I didn't know you were, you were Canadian at the time, though. I'm Canadian, eh?

Yeah, A. It's funny because I was just telling you last week we had Canadians in here. So I'm having a lot of A's in the last week. Yeah, you'll be saying it before long. A? So I want to let this conversation kind of go any direction, really. But maybe we can just lay a foundation and then let it evolve from there. Because, I mean, you mentioned to me just in our, I mean, you, in the green room,

we were talking about some of your stuff that happened and experienced in India. You just mentioned to me sitting at the table, and I don't think Jack heard this, which is transforming into animals. And I was just like, oh, my Lord. And then you were talking about just even the visions of the... Let me tell you this one before we start. Please, go for it. I had a friend who Vanuatu is over by Austria, one of the islands off the sea,

and it was very so much witchcraft. Well, they got a Christian president, and he wanted to dedicate the... country to Christ. So they brought 12 apostles together for this dedication ceremony. One of my friends from Australia was there. And suddenly they look up in the sky and there's a giant raven flying over where they're located. And there was, for lack of a better term, and not the, because you can't really, there was a vortex of Holy Spirit coming down into that meeting. And when the raven flew over the, this is the story I've heard, okay? When he flew over the meeting,

he hit that vortex and his power left him and he filled to the ground naked and got arrested and taken away. Wow. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about, you know. That's wild. I mean, we talk, I talk on the show a lot about the supernatural realm.

And I try, especially in the recent year or two, I've been really trying to stress to people who stumble across my show that the supernatural realm is real. Before we passed away, Michael Heiser, I was a big fan of his, and he would always say, like, from the day you're born, there's an enemy seeking your destruction. And when you think about that, and then you consider the supernatural, the spiritual warfare aspects of that, like, if you truly fall in the line of believing that, you really don't have much of a choice other than to act accordingly and take the proper steps

in your faith to be serious when it comes to your walk with Christ, how you prepare yourself every day, how you react to life situations. And that supernatural realm, which I don't know if Heiser talked a ton about, maybe sometimes it takes a person like me who doesn't have the academic background to, to, I don't want to say he was, because this sounds almost like egotistical or prideable and it definitely wasn't that, but like, I don't have anything to protect. I was a former truck driver that started a podcast because God called me to do it. So like, I'm, I'm very willing to go to the quote unquote bizarre stuff, you know? Yeah, yeah.

But the supernatural realm, it does spill over and we do experience things that should be only left for Marvel movies. But the reality is Marvel movies got it from reality. Exactly. So I was telling you about that. in Singapore, remember that I was at the temple and I looked in, I put my foot, I actually just put one toe in. Tell that story. I was in, I was walking the streets of Singapore and there's Hindus and there's Muslims and everything you can imagine there. And I saw this temple and there was a sacrifice to him. There was fire. There was a priest in there and there were people giving sacrifices into the fire. And I thought, man, I want to see this, you know. On the temple wall,

a giant green god and he's got a beautiful face but he's he's green and this is the god of the temple so there's sacrifice into this particular god i know the name but i can't remember right now uh and i put my foot in i put and i look in i see the sacrifice and then i walk out and then i walk around the corner and here's the you say the marvel the incredible hulk is like a statue in the window and the lord said to me you just saw a depiction of the hulk of india and it's it's a little bit of If you think about the Hulk, what happens? He gets angry and he destroys. You don't want to get in his way.

And this God is like that. So they're dedicating or sacrificing to this God so that his wrath stays away from them. So I'm walking down the road. And as I'm thinking about all this, there's a chip bag on the ground. And I walk on it and I slip. My foot goes back up in the air. And my toe that touched the floor of the temple, hit the ground and broke. And the Lord says, this is the wrath of that God.

God don't even put one foot into those places. That's why. So you're in India. This is later. India was after this. Yeah. Like I'm assuming missions work, right? Yeah, I was there.

We were on a trip. I preached in 30 places. We had over 8,000 people touched by the power of God in those meetings. Blind eyes open. People stood up here. In what span of time? Three weeks. Three weeks.

I'm working every day, three times a day. Sick. nearly died three times. The first time, as soon as I got there, I'm in a hotel room and the pollution is so thick. You can't even see it across the street. My blood pressure shot up. And my nose starts bleeding and won't stop for two, three days.

So I lose a lot of blood. And I'm ashamed. I mean, I'm like, you know, felt like I was the only white guy in India. You know, you ever feel that way? I've been all over the world. I'm the only white guy in that town, and I'm like, they're going to think I got the plague and they're going to kill me. This is the mental warfare you can go through in those places. And so now I have very little energy left and I end up in this big church with 1,500 people.

They're sitting on the floors. They're sitting out the door to hear me speak. And I go up into what they would. It's like a green room. And I'm meeting the leadership of that church. And my nose exploded in blood. I had a shirt white like this and went all over the shirt. And then all of a sudden there's like eight people praying and they're trying to clean me up.

And I'm fading out. I'm like I actually started to die. And I knew I was dying because my spirit started coming out of my body. And suddenly my wife's face, who's Lydia, appears to me. And I love my wife. You know, I don't want to disappear. But when she appeared, I said, Lydia, I love you. but I'm going home to be with the Lord right now.

And I started moving out. And the woman in front of me, she goes, you think you're dying, don't you? I said, I am dying. And when she said that she started praying in spirit or tongues and shanabah, and then eight of them, I mean, I've never heard people pray that loud. They're like, shili, an abhole, a da, la, la, la, la, la, la, and then a doctor comes through the room with a clove of garlic and shoves it up my nose,

cauterized, I don't know what. I was talking to doctors over here and they said, this should have never happened. This is impossible. I was going to say. There's like a piece of garlic up your nose and all of a sudden the healing power of God hit. I felt the healing there and it flowed right into my spirit and my spirit came back to life because of a piece of garlic. Wow. That's Jesus. Amen.

That was an anointed piece of garlic right there. Yeah, it must have been a big piece of garlic. What are those Indian garlic? That's wild. You were saying that you know you're friends with Pastor Troy Brewer. Yes. And I don't want to go into this story because it's not my story to tell. And one day I'd like to actually have his son, Ben, here to tell it.

But Ben told me how his first trip to India, not only was he kidnapped in India, but he also accidentally almost was sacrificed to a Hindu god. He was 16 years old. He found himself in a temple and he thought they were going to show him a sacrifice. And they thought he was telling them that he wanted to be sacrificed. And they're like getting excited. Oh, my God. Everybody's getting excited.

I love it. It's wild. And it's a wild story. I'll hopefully have him tell it one day. I was in a hotel room in India and a demon came into the room. And I've had this happen many times. I had one time I was in my basement. praying at night. And a demon came into the room, took me by the two feet, and lifting me straight up in the air.

And I'm dangled. In the physical. Yes. Wow. Like a carrot dangling like this. And I, you get, now it doesn't bother me as much. I'm more a tough old warrior. Now, back then I was like a brand new believer. I was like, Jesus! Crying out. And when I said the name of Jesus, the demon dropped me and I landed on the floor. Another time I was, in my room and I woke up and I was floating next to the ceiling. I'm touching the ceiling like, I'm like, God, don't let the ceiling open up. This was like a, this wasn't a demonic thing. I believe it was an angelic thing in this sense. And I'm floating. I thought if the roof opens up, the stars are the limit. I was so terrified. These encounters this mess your mind up. But every encounter that you have with the Lord, there's revelation that comes to strengthen your walk and journey. They don't just have. for happening sake. You know, when you have encounters even with the demonic realm and you call

out on the name of Jesus, suddenly you realize the authority that's in that name, that at that name, every knee bows and every tongue will confess that He is Lord. And so you know the strength. This is why I can go all over the world because I know that there's no other name more powerful than the name of Jesus. You know, I talk about that a lot too, the fact that the closer we draw to the Lord the more he shows up in the battle right next to us. And I don't know, like, how the logistics of everything works, but I just know that, and I feel like maybe it's even more so that the more we draw close to Christ, it's not that he's showing up to the battle more.

It's just we're more consciously aware to use him for our battle, for our fight. It's like, it's like showing up, imagine like showing up to a fight and you have your, your dad there to fight for you and say, no, dad, I got this. I'll do this on my own, you know? So it's like, once you start understanding who he is and what his motivation is, it's just like, no, I don't actually have to do anything here. I can just ask dad to take care of it. He'll take care of it.

You know, you do gain a greater authority on it, less fear. You can walk fearless in many ways. And at a certain point, I remember I was in France and I was in this cathedral. And I, listen, I was a philosophy major in universe. and they studied like the ancient philosophers. And this cathedral was a thousand year old, a thousand years old, and the philosophers who I loved taught in this cathedral.

The history. Yeah, I'm sitting in France. And all of a sudden I'm aware there's a demon that's about 30 feet tall standing beside me. And I remember thinking, thank God I'm not sleeping up here tonight. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I don't want to be here in the middle of the night. So I had to do a, I was there doing a, ministry and I went down. I prayed for about 40, 50 people. We saw some miracles take place. And it was two in the morning. I didn't know where I was going to sleep. This can happen. You're like, you don't know where you're going to sleep that night. All of a sudden, they drive me back up the mountain toward the cathedral. And the house that I'm sleeping in that night is right next to the cathedral. So it's no. Close the blinds. It's no good to close the blinds. They're going to come in. So I'm lying in my bed in the

bill the demon comes in the room, it grabs me by the neck. And instead of getting afraid, I was like, you get out of here. I've only got two more hours sleep and I got to drive to Paris and I'm not going there tired. And when I said that, right out the door. It's like, it's funny because you see the transformation between from, like you said, the new believer, Jesus. By the way, when I heard when you yelled at it now and then, when you yelled that, I heard an 80s electric guitar,

you know, but that's because I was like listening to that stuff in the 80s. Right? It's good music. Metal hairband, right? But it's to the point where when you kind of, I don't want to say mature because I think we're all on a maturing path until we're in the presence of Christ forever.

But like as we mature. Strengthening. Yeah. And you just like, you look at that stuff, you know, they say, I told you how we're coming up on nine years for the show. You know, back then, you know,

in the earlier days and stuff, you know, I'd hear stories. I'm like, man, that, that would terrify me. And now I go through supernatural experiences and I'm just looking at it, I'm like, you're a nuisance. It's more of a nuisance than anything. Like, I don't, I just feel like the more you become aware and truly understand the supernatural realm and how it operates around you, the less there is to fear because of your security in Christ. And so it's funny, you, you say that you go from this which i mean i was still screaming out the name of jesus but like you kind of just like get out of india when i was over there and the demon came in in the room suddenly my spirit started to laugh i never yelled i was like there was a laughter because the joy of the lord is our

strength and in the face of the attack i laughed and my laugh got loud and suddenly the demon went Wow. So now I'm fighting the enemy with laughter. Wow. Fighting the enemy with laughter. Yeah. That's like a weapon of choice. Wow. The joy. Wow. We have joy unspeakable full of glory. It breaks the yoke. There's nothing that can come against you.

You know, I was in Australia, and we were there for two and a half year period, and 17,000 people came underneath the power of God in those years. and we had these youths broke out, the move broke out. So I'm down there and there's a lot of witchcraft everywhere, but in Austria there's like a unique flavor of it. It's like a bouquet, you know, a different bouquet. And I'm, oh, I'm... It's Austria?

Australia. Australia, okay. The land of Oz. Yeah. Yeah. Down in Oz. And as I'm there, I'm staying with a woman who has got native blood and she's still got a lot of witchcraft going on and her demons all around the house.

So I want to move and get out of there because I don't want to be sleeping there, you know? And friends came to pick me up. And warfare can come in many ways. They parked their car in a certain way that it almost, they parked it on the edge of a driveway, and the car started tipping over. So I grab, I'm a big guy, as you can see,

and I picked the car up and put it, like I was putting it back over. And when I did, I saw a demon behind me with a bow and arrow. And it was this, really, it shot it. And it went through my Achilles tendon in the, spirit. And my Achilles tendon snaps. And it was like the worst pain I had ever had. Physical pain you felt. Physical pain. It actually snapped. My killies from a demonic attack, the demon ripped my Achilles tendon apart. Wow. So now I fall on the ground and I had been

reading scriptures about the scriptures that says, considerate, pure joy when you face trials of many kind. So I hit the ground going, thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus. I consider it pure joy. And the pain, my leg swole up like this. Now, I'd only, this was 12 years ago. And I was in government for 15 years in national security. And I had just transitioned from that five weeks out.

This was five weeks after my ministry started. So the enemy is trying to destroy my ministry before it starts. So I say to the demon, I say to God, well, I guess you're going to have to heal that because I ain't going to know doctor. 11 countries I'm going to in the next two months and I'm not missing one. I didn't go to the doctor and I started hobbling along and walking into nation after nation after nation. And everywhere I went to about 50 places and every one, every place I went into there, like, Darren, the Lord just told me, I need to pray for your foot. And I would put my foot up to pray, to get it prayed for. And oh, it just kept moving. So I get into, this is crazy.

I'm the day that I first time my first trip to Europe I flying into Paris and I'm flying in and the terrorist attack that took place and killed over 100 people is taking place as I'm flying into the nation so I'm I was in Detroit when I heard that the terrorist attack was taking place and I was like God I want I still want to go so I call my wife say Lydia I feel like I still am going to go because you know why else would I be on a plane hidden toward there if it wouldn't for that God wanted me to be there in the middle of it and she says I got peace about it so I'm on the plane I get off to plane their machine guns on us and everything as we're walking into the airport I'm hobbling in I'm hobbling in I ended up going on a to Amsterdam

I went over to I flew into Berlin we had revival all along that path and then I fly back in the Paris but when I'm in Berlin there was a this is two and a half months after the Achilles I'm in Berlin and I'm preaching in a apartment complex in the middle of Berlin and there's 100 people in the room. There are gypsies up there. And there's one of this young gypsy man. He's about 32 years old. I was teased because he's like a street, he plays the accordion in the streets.

And he made enough money to buy a BMW playing the accordion in the streets. You know, there's an annoying. So I'm like a prophetic minister. I'm praying for him asking God to give me word. of knowledge about his life. What, you know, this is what I see. This is what you've gone through. And he burst into tears crying.

Oh, I didn't know what it hit home. You know, sometimes when you get a word for a person that just hits them, they burst. And they're getting deliverance through the actual prophetic gift. And two years later, I came back. He had given his heart to the Lord that night. I won 50 of his family members to the Lord in two years. if I did not go on that foot, that would not have happened. Are you hear me?

I considered it pure joy. There's an endurance and a perseverance that comes by Holy Spirit into our lives to endure all things. Right after I prayed for him, a young man prayed for my foot and it was instantly healed right after. He was only 18 years old. Then I ended up back in Paris in another apartment complex, about 10 blocks where all those terrorists They were shooting people in apartment complexes 10 blocks away from where I was having revival. And there was a woman in that meeting that came out of the same tribe of Muslims that did the attack that was on fire for God in the middle of Paris in that season. God is good.

Man, that's amazing. So that man comes to Christ, brings 50 family members to Christ. Like, you don't even know. Yeah. That's just one story. But the ripple, just in that story, the ripple effect that you, like we were talking about earlier, you won't even know the ripple effect of that. I mean, you know the 50, but I'm glad I know that. It's incredible. And that was your first, five weeks after. I'm in Corinth in Greece. And I said to Jesus before when I'm going to Corinth, but I don't want to be a tourist like Paul. I don't want to be a tourist. I want to go there and see miracles like Paul. So I get into this gypsy village. There's 500. gypsies for a living, they collect snails and sell them the restaurants. This is what they do.

And there's two gypsy women in there that are witches. And I prophesy over them and it hit so hard, they got deliverance and got saved. And as I'm praying for them, or as I begin to declare, because of your salvation today, your whole family will come to Lord. There was only 20 people in the room, but 35 people came to the Lord because they kept walking through the door. And I would prophesy, they get saved. I prophesied. They prophesied. They prophesied. They wanted to run to the ends of Greece preaching the gospel that night, but they wouldn't let them. They said, you need a little bit of mentoring, a discipleship first. The next day, I was only in that village for two hours. The next day, the revival broke out in three different houses and most of the village was saved. Jeez,

God is good. Wow. It's not about you and I. You see, it's about the presence of God that goes with us. and he gets, he leaves, and he goes into them, and suddenly they're convinced. And when they're convinced, the work of ministry is so much easier. Yeah. And I feel like that's, that's, I think people get kind of caught up in what they need to do. Like I was saying how earlier, I felt like at times earlier in the show that I was,

I was destroying something, but you can't destroy what God's building, right? And so I feel like in the similar sense, people, they can kind of feel like they could misstay. on things and kind of... It's all into calculation. Yeah. We're not the ones that are doing the saving, right? So we're just being the vessel to share the gospel and the Holy Spirit woos and does the work. That's right.

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fullest beds in the world. Some exclusions apply sea cypher details. You don't have to be conscious that you're being used as a vessel because you could be unconscious. Suddenly God puts somebody in front of you and they're looking at you and you're like, okay, I guess this is a moment here and they're getting touched by the power of God. But just before, you never even thought about being a vessel or being used. You might have been thinking about eating your next meal, but suddenly now you're being used. Like last night we were in a restaurant here. And the Lord said, say, the waitress. He said, tell her that she's the salt of the earth and she won't lose her flavor.

Now, I don't know if she knows what that means at all. She goes, I'm the salt of the earth. And then she walks away and she comes back. That's in the Bible. So they created a hunger and she went searching for the answer. So obeying the Holy Spirit in the moments. You know what I mean? We don't know what that will produce. but it'll produce something. Do you ever feel like in those moments, you feel like the Holy Spirit telling you to say something a complete stranger and you say,

and you're like, I know this sounds ridiculous and I almost don't want to say it. I used to, yeah, but now I just do it. Yeah. Yeah, I've paid for like 50,000 people prophetically all around the world, so after a while you just know the moment. Yeah. Yeah.

So was it just like by practice you get used to it or was there? First times I'd be terrified. I remember the first time I was in a restaurant and I get this like, oh, I got to say something here. So I'd write it on the back of the receipt and run out. You did your job. He didn't say to speak it.

It's not all about the, you know, you can win the game and not do, you not think you won at all, you know what I mean? But you just managed to get a couple of bats back and forth. I think of tennis, you make a bad shot, you still won. There's times you'll just, he's making you fruitful. Yeah. You know, at my heart, and this is what the Bible says, seek me, and you shall find me if you seek me with your whole heart. So early on, I prayed this prayer, and I'm talking 20 years ago,

Lord, whatever you have to do to bring me to the place of the greatest fruitfulness, I give you permission, and he believed it when I said it. And that put me on a journey that came through, you know, every obstacle that you face in your life, you have an opportunity to learn the name of God above that storm. So there's an invitation when the storm comes to learn what God wants you to learn in the storm. And I applied myself to learning. And so the peace that I carry is a measure of all the healings that I've learned in the storms. He's the one that prosperes. He's the one that heals. I was in Darissela in Tanzania, and I had the worst bout of like, I'm about to throw up diarrhea, if you're allowed to say that.

And I'm about to go, I'm in a bathroom. And I told you about India on the plane. Remember that's the whole story of itself? It's graphic. It's graphic. So I'm remembering that story and I'm on the plane and I'm going, or in the bathroom at this airport. And I've got, God, I do not want, I've got to get on a plane in an hour. I do not want to go through this again.

And then I'm thinking, I'm going to die in the bathroom. I'm going to die here. This is where I'm going to die. And I say, God, I'm a man of God. And you're going to shame me in my death being fouled on a toilet, dying? This is what I'm crying. I say, God. Go out like Elvis Presley.

I was like, yeah. And then I went, Jesus, heal me. And he appeared on the cross right in front of my face. And healing hit my body. And I was healed instantly. Whoa. I got up, got on the plane ate chips and everything. Thank you, Lord.

Just move on. Just move on, preach, and we saw thousands touched by God. I'm not exaggerating. Like, I'm about to go to Africa in three weeks. Jason's going to be going with me. And on that trip, we'll preach to 70,000 people. Wow. Yeah, and you want to talk about demons.

One time I'm over there, and this boy appears in front of me. And I see the demons in his eyeballs. And I go, boy, come here. because I know that the prophetic, if I get a word that hits him hard, he's going to know Jesus is real. So I start prophesying. And there's a, we call a nabai flow, which is like a flow of the Holy Ghost that comes through. And it's like coming out and the words just, they just roll. You're just rolling with what's coming out.

I declare you'll see more of that in your own life. I'm rolling. Boom. And I'm going, I see that when you were young, the words are just coming out. I don't even like, I'm just saying it. When you were young, your grandmother brought you to the witch. doctor and he made you eat flies and a curse came upon you and his face turned blood he this went and he ran away and went to see my friend who's the preacher of the church and my friend comes like Darren you wouldn't

believe what you just said when he was a child he was sick and his grandmother brought him to the witch doctor who gave him chum and chum is a potion that they create and in it there were mosquitoes there was he ate flies for healing and it brought a curse upon him it just broke off and then over the next month he got radically saved he got he uh it started becoming a powerful church member and even got married to somebody in the church wow god broke the yoke amen thank you lord wow so you're you're going to africa and you see you're it's clear to me like you're seeing like front you're on front I'm like like a paratrooper. Yeah.

Yeah. In the spirit. Yeah, I get pushed into places. You just jump right in. I go alone. Like having the team with me is not normal. Really? When I first started trying, in India, I was all alone.

In Africa, I was on, I get a dream. And I'm like, okay, I got to go there. So I buy my ticket and I go. You just go. I'm based on the dream. So one time I'm in Canada, I'm in the middle of the truckers protest. You heard of it. Oh, yeah.

So I was like, This is how Sid Roth got to know me. It's because I was on, in the trucker's protest. Man, if you got another one, thank you, Lord. Black. You want coffee? Black. Yeah, black coffee.

I'm in the middle of the protests. I'm getting my... This is here else I'd give it to you. Yeah, no, that's sorry. My media's exploding. We got hundreds of thousands and people watching. I'm down there recording what's happening. And because of the government lens, I'm speaking about it in the way other people can't even, you know,

understand and Sid Roth picks it up I get on Sid Roth oh shut up Okunda I can't remember can we you'll edit this right? Sure I hate when I break out of the flow like that what was I talking about before what story was I entering into you remember? Peratrooper behind the lines thank you Lord God it was a good story too there's so many of them though

oh oh that's terrible maybe I'm not supposed to tell it. Don't say that. Now I'm trying to I'm trying to remember you. Peritrubianized and Sid Roth, Sid Roth led to

Oh, I got it. So the trucker's protest has taken place and there's a revival taking place and you got the picture of our parliament right there. We saw thousands of people

touched by the power god in the middle. The truckers protest. That's the story untold. On told? Well, listen to this. the truckers were blue-collar truck workers coming out of Christian families. The only prayer they knew was they are our father. So everywhere they went and the police were coming against them, they're like, Our father, who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

They were taught Christian values when they were young. So it was the Christian spirit that rose up against that spirit of COVID and the spirit of tyranny and came charging across into our city. So, oh, I'm in the middle of it. And what you may not know either is that the protests ended with 200 people falling on their knees declaring the Our Father. Then they got out and dispersed. Whoa. Isn't that cool?

That's really cool. But they were baptized in people in hot tubs in February in Canada with minus 30, the temperatures, hundreds of people were baptized. There were preachers on all corners preaching the gospel. There were people that were prayer walkers. I don't know if that's a concept you understand, but they walked the streets and pray. There was hundreds of them that came in.

Christians had thousands of dollars in their pocket and their hand of $50 bills out to the truckers to eat. It was a revival. French, English, First Nation, and even like people, like new immigrants, we were all there protesting what was taking place. So the truck protest ends and like, God, you know, after COVID, we were locked up.

In Canada, a year, we hardly left our house. We didn't go to church. But now we're in the middle of 10,000, 20,000 people together, and we're loving life. Now it's over. And I'm like, God, what now? And I have a dream. And in the dream, I see revival in the mountains of Canada.

And I hear the Lord say, get in your car and drive today, leave. I knew three. I have more ministry in Australia, in France, in America than I did in Canada. I only knew three churches in Canada, and I knew I'm going across, I don't even have resources. I leave my house with not even enough money to get two days out. It's a four or five day drive, and I called it a prayer journey. Now, I didn't know I had a reputation because of the trucker's protest and because I got thrown in a detention center one time because I came back from Africa, and they threw me in the Klinger for 10 days.

So I got started to get known in Canada because Okay, I don't want to satch from the story, but Why you want to hear that? I do. So let's just finish your story, but I want to hear why I got thrown in it. This is a part of the story. Okay. This is why I was in the middle of the trucker's protest

because in November 2021, I'd come back from Malawi and Trudeau had said that's one of the countries that got the coronavirus and anybody coming into Canada would be thrown into detention centers because they were there. So I get corralled right into a detention. They didn't tell my family where I was.

If I didn't have my cell phone, nobody would have known where I was. So I ended up in this. They had like a tracker on your phone. I had to use my tracker to find out where I was. They didn't even tell me where I was. So I actually went in and did a pen and I found out where I was so that my family know where I was. They left me in what they called a hotel room, but it was a, it was a jail cell.

Wouldn't let me in or out. All the walls in that building were covered in white garbage bags. When I walked through the door of that hotel, everybody was in white gowns with masks with blue gloves on. They looked like stormtroopers. And they took me and put me in an elevator that was covered in plastic and brought me up the elevator and put me in a hotel room and closed the door. And nobody came to see me for five days. I had paper bags of food that were not even like the kind of food you and I would eat. It was like food, disgusting food thrown outside the door, and I would not eat it.

I said, I won't eat these bags of tyranny. And then I got onto the internet because they didn't cut me off from the internet. And I'm preaching the gospel on my phone, in the hotel room, telling people all across the nation. My wife became radical and started contact. My wife's like quiet. Like you, she don't talk. Suddenly I'm in there. She's contacting all the.

politicians. All of a sudden, the major media outlets pick up my story. One broadcast, somebody that was like a million people watched here into the letter that I had written. I was an analyst and government good writer. And I wrote a document called the 14 human rights violations that I experienced in the detention center in Canada. It ended up in the parliament building. They have the official opposition. And they're reading my letter to the parliament. And then I was, five days in the same underwear. I know we go to the dirty stories. No, it's fine. It's fine. I had the same underwear on for five days. I should tell you the story of how I spent five days in the desert with the same underwear on. Now you got me. First of all, you said desert. I love deserts.

And oh, and they read during the question period on a TV, national TV, and the leader of the opposition goes, and I have to tell you, Mr. Speaker, there's a man. in the detention center today. We're wearing the same underwear for five days. And I ask you, how is this man a threat to national security? And I'm like, there's another guy like that? And then I thought, that's me. God is good.

So after all this, I'm like, this was a wild season. My ministry exploded because of all that. I'm known now because that beginning began there. Sid Roth picked it up. I was on Sid Roth. And then I have a dream cross Canada. This was two days, three days after the protest ended. So I get in my car in February and begin the long track across Canada. I called it a prayer journey. Didn't know where I was going. But I didn't know I was well known now. So I do this little video, hey guys, like my phone, I'm coming across Canada. If you'd like to have a coffee or want to meet, write me in my inbox right now. I had to do. I have. I had to

25 invitations to churches to come speak. I extended my trip to three weeks. I prophesied to about 4,000 people. I had a dream at the end of the trip, and I saw the impact of the trip. The people were waving flags in the spirit and marching through the streets of Canada in liberty. When tyranny comes, it's a good thing. The people have got, look, the Christian spirit rises up in the face of tyranny. There's no fear. No doubt. I was in the face of 40 police officers and I'm drunk. I'm like, I got my phone like this. I go, praise you, Lord. And all the cops are looking at me like they want to eat me. I mean, they're one guy. I thought he was going to come after me. And I would have been okay with that. Thank you, Lord. I look, I'm not joking. I know what it's like,

what's like to actually feel I'm about to be murdered and not minded. I'm going out. This is good. Thank you, Lord. In that moment with those 40 around, there was a street preacher, started a preacher right there to them. They said, Jesus, like this. And when he did, the cops went like this, and they start walking away. And I said, oh, I'm telling people, if you want to be bold, get filled with the Holy Spirit. Get the drunken state, the glory of God inside of you, because you will not be afraid when the hour comes. I'm sitting there looking at the comes. Oh, if I had known that the name of Jesus, we pushed back the police.

I would have been saying it a long time ago. And then I was like, I shouldn't have said that. Not that they were all bad, but there were some that were. You know what I mean? And I'm just saying that. Well, those police officers went at 30 minutes, the same guy went and arrested the main leader of the truckers protest, 30 minutes before I said that.

I went to the leader of the truckers protest 20 minutes before he was arrested. And I said, a Christian? He said, yeah? I said, good. I said, you serve the Lord. I said, you served the Lord. And 20 minutes later, he was arrested. What was his name? Do you remember? Chris Barber. Chris Barber. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. He was called Big Red because he had the red truck. There was other guys, too. There was two or three of them. Yeah. The one that you're thinking about is, I can't remember. The one that I think he was featured on like Glenn Beck and stuff because we interviewed him. Chris Barber was the one,

if he was the TikTok guy and powerful, powerful, powerful. They're going to throw him in prison. He might serve seven or eight years in prison at this point. Yeah. Still, yeah. Like all those years later. That's crazy. I know who you mean, but I can't remember his name.

So you just been brought up, I think, I think something to really hit on, which all of this is really. My brain's going a million miles an hour right now. I know. I always tell people, I don't have all day, but if I did, you'd hear hundreds of stories, honestly. I just like that, too. I'll tell you what.

I'm glad you're here. So you mentioned about the idea of martyrdom. Yes. And I can tell you a story. Please. I had a dream. I was to go to Morocco. And I'd been wanting to go to Morocco anyway, but.

For vacation? No, just, I wanted to be Indiana Jones. I was like, to me. Me too. Yeah. I mean, to me, I know I'd be a fat version. of them but I always had this desire to go to the ends of the earth just to be there and it started with a love of those kind of movies to be honest I'd see lands and I'd see Nepal and I'd see India and

I'd see Egypt I'd see Morocco and so there was a desire to see these nations but I now just wait for the dream and I go based on the dream so this dream I have I come into Morocco just before you go any further on the Morocco you've said several times so you I just want to clarify, you move based off your dreams. Exactly. That's incredible with me. You're literally walking in face. I just got invited to Kelowna in Alberta or in British Columbia because a guy had a dream.

We went out there and hundreds of people came into revival based on the dream. Wow. That's ten times a year. Jeez. Yeah. So I have a dream. I'm in Morocco and there's five people stand in front of me in an angel. says, these don't know Jesus. I said, they will when I'm done. It's just a declaration came,

but they will when I'm done. And then he says, if you come to Morocco, they'll arrest you. I said, well, that's, that's nice, but they won't arrest me. I just declared it back, you know. So I put a team together, and we went into Morocco looking like tourists. And I started meeting with the underground church and the power of God came into those places where I met somebody it was in the middle of an earthquake and lost everything in Morocco, and I saw the Holy Spirit filled them up with the power of God. The Christians in Morocco, these people would have been coming out of Islamic backgrounds, and the Christians in Morocco began to rebuild houses for these people, and this is hell. But when I came in, they got filled with the Holy Spirit. So I'm traveling

across Morocco, and this is the way I pray. Sometimes I'll get these thoughts. I'll go, man, wouldn't it be awesome. I love the Chinese church and how I heard stories about they would have a meeting but didn't want to tell anybody where it was. And if you're going to get there, the Holy Spirit's going to reveal to you the location to get there. This is this thought's going on. Wouldn't it be cool? If I just supernaturally walked through a church door that was in the middle of a wild meeting and I got accepted and starting praying for people. And I just thought two or three times over the next two days, I'm like, wouldn't that be awesome? So I get out into the desert in Morocco.

There's a place called Marrakesh. And this is the world famous market where the snakes come out of the baskets dancing. And some guy chased me with one of those snakes. I didn't call it. I was running. I just turned and ran. I was getting out of there. So in this town, I'm there.

And we're supposed to meet a preacher that night. And he stood us up. We're supposed to meet him at five. And my friends go, well, Darren, what do we do now? I said, well, let's just go have supper. And I went downstairs and I asked them for a nice restaurant that we could go to. And it was a half hour walk. So we walked there.

After we were done, we come out and I'm walking down the road. Now, we're in Morocco, 99% Muslim. There's no, you don't see Christian churches. You know what I mean? You see mosque, you know, everywhere. We come out and my friend goes, Darren, there's a church right here. And it's called the Evangelical Church of Marrakesh. I went, really? And it was a beautiful garden gate, like, you know, with flowers around it.

There was trees. There was a courtyard with beautiful gardens in there. And I looked through like this, and I go, wow, you couldn't see the building. So I wanted to go back. And there's a police officer sitting right here that I later learned was there to keep the Berber people, which are the indigenous people of Morocco, out of the meeting that's taken place inside. if they go in, they get arrested. It doesn't stop them from going, though, by the way. So I'm there. I say to the cop, am I allowed to go back there?

He said, oh, yeah, you can go back there. And when we start walking back, we hear this powerful worship music. I'm like, this is the kind of music I heard when I'm like down and near the Congo. Like these worshippers are just worship. And I'm like, God, there's a meeting going on here. And then there's a table with books on it. And the books have a French prophetic guy who has written books on healing, deliverance, and hearing the voice of God, which is my stream.

I mean, that's what we're all about, hearing the voice of God. I went, what? There's wild worship. And then two women walk in and look like angels. I said, there's a meeting going on here? She said, yeah. I said, are we allowed to come in? She said, absolutely.

We walked in the door. There's 120, 40 people in their worship in the Lord. And we're the, besides the speaker, we're don't. only white people. They put us in the front row and everybody knows that we're there. The men running that meeting was the preacher who stood us up. He didn't want us there. And now we're supernaturally walking into the meeting. And he's wondering how we got there. I said, we just walked through the door. I'm only, and then I start trying to justify myself, the only reason why I came to Morocco was because of a dream. This guy did not like me at all. It was like a real religious kind of thing

going on, but there were seven or eight young leaders in there. When they found out I came to Morocco because of a dream, they came up to me and said, are you a, they call me a seeer prophet. Do you, are you a prophet that sees by dreams and visions? I said, absolutely. We've been praying for four years for you to come. Whoa. And we want you to lay hands on us because we want to be anointed with the ability to

see by the Holy Spirit. So all of a sudden I'm laying hands on them and they're falling out in the dirt. And I prayed for 10 or 12 of them. And then we left. That's it. That was it. Whoa. That's enough.

I know. It's like you're, you're, this whole story is building. And then we left. And then we just walk away because my job's done. Whoa. Because your job's done. We didn't get no offering. It doesn't matter.

The key is to follow the voice to do what God says. Wow. I have to tell you, though, I don't lack. God always takes care of me. I've only had two or three airplane tickets paid for me in 12, 15 years of ministry, but I've been to 46 nations. Most of the time when I leave my house, I don't have money for the trip, including this one.

When I would leave, there'd just be enough to get to the next place. But the Lord told me Matthew chapter 10, and it became like the compass for my ministry, where Jesus is sending out to 72, And he says, don't worry about money for your money bill. But when you go, except the hospitality that comes to you. Wow. And so I was never, never put an emphasis on that.

Now, I have many partners, of course, and people who love me at this point, too, because of all the stories, right? So we have a lot of supporters, but we never make demands, but God always provides. That's incredible. Even this trip I'm going to Africa, we bought a car for a guy. we're buying a car for a guy over there. And I would never have had that money in my bank, but all the money came in because we determined we wanted to do it.

The Lord provided it. Wow. That's, I mean, I hear stories about people, you know, walking in faith, living in faith, and just trusting God's going to provide the next meal. Well, I'm doing it. Jason's doing it. You can do it.

Yeah. You can do it. I wrote on my wall the other day. I said, I live and the banks love me because my bank account looks like I have a job and have a salary. They have no problem to take care of me. They're like, when I walk to the bank door, they go, hey, Mr. Candy, how you do? And come on in. They know who I am.

But every single day, our bills, I don't know how they're going to get paid, but the money always comes in. I'll be like one day I was, let's talk about stories of faith. I needed $1,000 because my mortgage was doing three days and it wasn't coming. I did everything that I would normally do and money wouldn't come. So now I had to preach up in the region that I'm in. We took our RV up there. We weren't getting an offering because this was like a place you go to preach because it looked good that you were preaching there.

And so I'm up there and the Friday, the bill was due on Friday. And it didn't, I didn't get the money. I'm like, God, you missed it. Well, that night the money didn't come out. I don't know why. It came out on Monday. But between Friday and Monday, I'm up there and it's a Sunday. I only got enough money to get my kids some ice cream.

So I say, kids, let's go up and get some ice cream. I got seven children. I got five at home. And so going for an ice cream is like a walk of faith. You know what I? Yeah. So we get up, we get the ice cream. I mean, all of a sudden I look and there's this woman like running toward me coming across the field.

She goes, oh my God, it's the can. It's the cat. Like, because we're known through social media all through the region. She goes, it's the cat. And I think, coo, who's this? You know what I mean? Like, who's this coming toward me now? And she comes up.

She goes, how are you doing? And then she's even starting, hey, Jonathan. Hey, she knows all the kids' names. Like, she knows us, right? I guess, she knows us. So she goes, I've had. an envelope in my purse for two months. The Lord told me to put it there. On three occasions, I thought I was to give it away. But she said, the Lord told me no, but he's telling me to give it to

you now. She gives me this thick envelope puts it in my hand. I go, you can't look at it. You just got your feeling. It's thick. It's squishy. And I give it to my wife. And I'm like, thank you. Thank you very much. And you're just like, now the conversation ends. We walk back to the car said, woman, give me that off. And I open it up and it's all $50 bills. There's 20 of them in there. I'm like, $20. It was $1,000, the exact amount that I need to pay for the bill the very next day. That should have been coming out on Friday, but for some reason didn't come out until Monday. That's incredible. That's the way we live. Yeah. Wow. I read books. You see, I had an impartation from David Youngie Cho or Paul Youngie Cho out of Korea.

He came to my Bible school. He was the guy who had the million people church. And I heard him preach when I was 18 years old. He came to my Bible school, 500 people. This guy had a million member church. He comes to a little Bible school in Canada, declaring a revival would break out. And he told the stories of the gift of faith. And I thought, God, I want to live with the gift of faith.

The gift of faith sees before it actually experiences the breakthrough. But when you see the breakthrough, you know you're going to have it. So I live in the knowledge that God has no choice but to bring the breakthrough. And we've lived that way for a long, long time. That's incredible. So you just brought the Bible College and, or you would say university, right? I had two years of Bible school, like a Pentecostal Bible school, and then I got kicked out of a church and became angry and bitter. I became a youth pastor in a revival breakout.

Hundreds of kids came to the Lord. Some of them are still serving the Lord and as pastors to this day. But then I got angry not just at the pastor, but I had grown up in a very broken home. And so I had father issues. And when I look back, I understand that I was just wounded. And that wounding created bitterness and anger, and I blame God. And so I went off after the two years of Bible School, two years as a youth pastor, I started fresh and did a Bachelor of Arts and Philosophy and Political Science.

And I did a master's degree in public administration at one of the top schools in Canada that prepared me to enter into the top ranks of the government of Canada as an analyst or economist or data analyst. Was that the goal at that point then? Yeah. Okay. You know, I wanted to make money. I wanted power. I wanted to be in a powerful place.

So, when I study in my philosophy, I really wanted to understand it. I really wanted to have the, I cut off my faith. I remember making a vow in my philosophy class. I said, if I'm really going to understand this stuff, I have to stop believing in God. And a demon came right on top of me in that moment. And it was like, and all the belief was sealed off for a season. Really?

Nine years. And so now I began to walk. I studied all those two things and ended up in one of the top places in the government of Canada, in the master's degree. I half the class was witches and warlocks, and I was on the path of becoming a warlock. And were all these people studying to be in government? Yeah, that's this.

This is the nature of government. And not just Canada. Not just government. This is the nature of all the mountains, media, all these hospitals, whatever, whatever mountain. Without Christ, you're entering into witchcraft, whether you like it or not. This is just the way it is.

There's unconscious witchcraft, which the newbies begin to, you know, they're dabbling and this and this and that, but then there becomes a really conscious effort to enter into greater revelation of darkness. And then there's a path that will, in order to get into the highest places, you really have to sell your soul to the devil. And you'll hear many of the people that are in the top places, say there was a moment when the devil came to them and said, I will give you something, but you have to.

That happened to me, where I had been now four or five years, dabbling, I was into astronomy or astrology. I was into reading charts. I had many Wicca witches that were close friends. I had freemasonry friends that were at the highest levels. We were into a dream. kind of using drugs to meditate. And so I was beginning to learn how to enter into states of consciousness to gain information.

And all that, you know, the demons are around everybody. And so they know information. And so you can enter into a demonic state and they go read a file and come back and tell you what it says. So I was starting to do this and I was gaining power and moving rapidly through the government. And then one day, I saw a really corrupt place in the spirit entered into it. I actually one day read a horoscope and it said, today is your day to make a connection that will bring you into a greater place of power. And in my mind, I said, who would that be? And I face came to me and I contacted them and I got a promotion into a high level place in national security in Canada.

and in that place I saw one of the greatest corruption scandals that took the head off of the National Police Service. They had to resign, but that was my file. And they were going to try to, they were using that to corrupt me. Without, you know, detail, going into too much detail, that's what happened. And I remember sitting in my boss's office as if the devil himself was sitting at the table. And it was like the voice came and said,

she says i've been in government for 15 years and i've seen a lot of darkness but in order to rise through the ranks i've had to close my eyes to it and you will too it's the very next day i walked out because about two weeks prior i had an encounter with the holy spirit so just as i was being invited into the top ranks the holy spirit comes and touches me and in the moment i when she said that i hear what is it the game the whole world and lose your soul And I thought, I ain't losing myself. So I walked out and I've been living by faith ever since. That's 20 years.

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I mean, by the way, I've heard people talk about such things. we actually had a lady here in studio, Christina Cheney, and she came up from Atlanta, her and her husband. Amazing story and testimony. They're actually launching their church on September 7th. But she was rising in the music industry, and she did songs like R&B songs, and she did music with very famous rappers.

And she was actually pulled aside by her producer, and he said, you know, if you really want to take your fame to the next level, you're going to have to sell your soul to Satan. And she said the power of God fell into the room when that happened, when he said that. And they both, I think she said they both wound up weeping. They weren't talking to each other. And then they just got up and walked out. And they continued their work. But they never talked about what just happened.

And then she had a dream where she was taken up to the second heaven. and Satan appeared before her and basically was recruiting her and, you know, happy to say she didn't accept. And she's somebody praying for that. Oh, yeah, very much. But so I've heard that before.

So your experience is that you had a Holy Spirit encounter two weeks before. Just before. So what happened there? I, just prior, two years before that, I had had an encounter with Jesus where I was trying to commit suicide. One night I was, my first marriage had fallen apart. I hadn't seen my daughters for a year and I went into like a very demonic depressed state where there were hounds of hell outside of my bedroom door.

They were there. I could hear them. What do you mean, hounds of hell? Demons that look like the... Like dogs? Yeah. They look like the Egyptian gods that meet you at the river. Yeah.

So I didn't know that's really. who they were then, but that's who they were. And they were howling outside my door, scratching on the walls. I'm not exaggerating. And they were like, die. You're only going to go to darkness. There's no, there's no consequences. There's no light after death. You just enter into unconscious state. Just die. Wow. And that was a torment that was for two months. And then I thought, okay, I'm going to do it. So I put a cord around my neck one night. Oh, thank you. you, Lord. It was the best moment. And as I'm blacking out, I'm just going out. I mean, I have to tell you, I had a lot of friends who tell me stories of people that were in the

same position as me who died, same education, same job, everything that I had entered into, but the grace of God, because I had a mother praying. You know, my mama was a prayer warrior. And the night that I was going to commit suicide, I called mom, said, Mom, I'm dying now. And she was like, no, Darren, don't do it. I said, I'm not here to tell you or to be convinced that I shouldn't. I just want you to know I love you. And I'm here to say goodbye. Please forgive me.

Tell my sister that I love her. Tell my two daughters that I love them, but I can't do it anymore. And so that night, she said to me, she said, there was two things I could do. She said, I could call the police and hope they would get there in time, but I knew they wouldn't. But this is my mama now. She goes, but what I did. did. She said, I began to dance and sing. She started dancing around the house going, as for me and my house, we'll serve the Lord. So now I'm in the closet. And it was Jesus appeared. It was like the word of God

appeared, a voice appeared, said, what do you do it? Got a plan for your life. Just like that. It was like a real gentle. And after all these demons, this gentleness stood out, I knew it was the voice of God. that I had been denying, that I had been ignoring, but now here he is confronting me. And I thought, ooh, if God is speaking, maybe there's a hell. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe I ain't going into a dark state.

Maybe I'm going into a tormented state, and this is just the beginning of it. So I, then I thought, nah, it was just my mind. And then I began to go again, he said, for I know the plans I have for you, says the Lord, plans to prosper you and give you a hope and a future. And I ripped it off my day. And I started, I was like a fist in the air going, how dare you talk to me after all these years? And I said to him about two years ago, why?

Did you choose to talk to me then? He said, that's the only time you would listen. I'd been trying. But it was in that moment that you would listen. And it broke the yoke. But I was still two more years because I didn't like, the church. The churches were too religious. And I went in and tried to go to the church, the pastor didn't want nothing to do with me because I was looking too witchcrafty, you know what I mean?

They wouldn't do it. So it took two more years, but just two weeks before that offer from the, from the enemy, my mother was going to a church in the country of all places in Ontario where I'm from in Canada. And it was our outside of town. And it was Christmas. And she was playing Gabriel in the Christmas, my mother playing Gabriel, and my sister was Mary, and she's like, you need to come to the church. I'm like, I ain't going to know Pentecostal Church. I hate Pentecostal Church, as you don't understand.

That's how I felt when I moved to Tennessee. There's no way. I was like, there's no way. She says, but you have to come. Now, I was doing drugs, you know? And I remember, I thought, it was Christmas time. I thought, I don't want to be alone for Christmas. This is what I'm thinking.

I thought, okay, I'll just not do the drugs. They go to church. a dinner with them and come home and get back into that state. So I go into the church and the preacher's at the pulpit and he was my friend now for 20 odd years. I could see the Holy Spirit and his eyeballs like a fire. When I was five years old, I used to get dragged into the churches as a child and have to sleep there while everything was going on at night.

One time when I was five, I can feel the peace right now. I know you can feel that fiery peace in the atmosphere. That piece showed up in that church that night while I was lying five years of. all. And I like, oh, feels good. And then I walked through the door of this church in the same presence of God is in the church that night. I look at the pastor and he don't look like anybody I know. He says, at the end, I'm eating like some cookies, you know. I'm dressed in a three-piece suit like I would in government. I was like, look at a warlock, right? I'm like there. And he goes, thank you for coming today. And I went, well, my mother made me come. He said, you're a man. Just like,

bull. I'm like, I'm like working in the top parts of government. I have leaders that have 3,000 employees call me, yes, sir, no, sir. And here's this Pentecostal preacher. I'm like, he's talking to me like, no, you're a man.

You came here today because you want it to come. And I went, okay, he's right. He's right. And then it changed me. And the presence was so strong. Now I had to deal with it. I went back to the house, took my drugs and dumped them in the toilet, and everything began to

shift from that moment to where I am today. Wow. So there was a period of your life where you, because, I mean, you said before you walked away, you, you were a high-level warlocks teacher me, man. I was learning the weapons of witchcraft, which is control, which is using your voice, tone, sound, sleight of hand. all these different things that you learn to control people. So when the Lord got a hold of me, I was about, I was about to step across the threshold.

But two weeks later, the offer comes and I go, no, thank you. I walked away. Wow. And I would have been in the top ranks. I have friends today that have thousands of employees. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

So you're painting a picture of, you know, the intertwined nature of, you know, the intertwined nature of, rising in the ranks of industry, government, entertainment, anything. Anywhere. And the further you go, the more it becomes satanic, demonic. Is that because of Satan's position here on earth? Have you ever heard the saying, the closer you are, the Caesar, the more fear there is? No, I haven't actually. Yes.

So as you rise to the ranks, the level of fear that you're bound by increases, and the more fear you have to leave it. So you don't want to go to the high. places because it's very hard to break free from the high places. So it's by the grace of God you're saved. Of course, he can save anyone. But the more you go into darkness, the harder it is to come out. So the path is deeper and deeper into darkness, deeper into, all of a sudden,

your communion with demons, they're talking to you. You're seeing them. You're speaking to them. they're appearing in your dreams and they're talking to you you know what I mean and you're getting revelation they're promising and they're promising and they're promising and they're promising and they're promising but the promises very rarely come to pass you do rise into some places but you're always bound by a measure of poverty a measure of lack and a measure of sickness even in the highest places so um i i got to tell you so you you kind of feel the heaviness on all that

Yeah. Because that's the darkness. Darkness is heavy. But when we talked about the glory and all those stories that I talked about earlier, what did you feel? A lightness. Power. Power.

Yeah. That's why I was drawn the other way. There's a greater freedom. I travel all the world. I driving down the highways in my vehicle and I'm like, I'm so free. I can go wherever I want. Anytime I want, there's no lack. Everywhere I go is paved in gold.

because the Lord provides for the journey. It's the most wonderful journey that I live. But the other way, you felt the heaviness, you felt the darkness on that. Yeah. And they do too. They do. The people listen, and I know they're in those places.

Listen, Jesus is the way, the truth in the life. There's only one way to the Father, and that's true, the Son. But when you commit your way to the Lord, many people feel like they're going to be bound by a religion and being told what they can and cannot do. Yeah, yeah. But it's for freedom. Freedom, the Bible says that you're set free.

And when you go to the cross and kneel, a gate opens called Beautiful and you enter into the promises of God. And they're yes and amen. Every desire of the heart shall be fulfilled. That's my story. That is my story. My family is blessed. My life is blessed. Every part of my life and journey is blessed.

So do you think that because before you walk, away from the Lord, you were a youth pastor, there was revival breaking out. Do you think that for a period of time, nine years of your life, then the enemy derailed what God was already going to do anyways? Or do you think God set your life on a note? It was even for him to derail because I wasn't mature. You know what I mean? Like the call was there, the gifts were there, but the psychology, the handle wasn't there. And St. John of the Cross wrote a book called The Dark Hour of the soul. And he talked about all Christians enter into dark psychological states to learn that the light is greater. But when they break free, no longer will the darkness have any hold. So that nine-year period

was the dark hour of the soul. And I learned the answers are not in philosophy, not in other religions, not in power. And because I came to the limits of all what they were and they didn't offer a banqueting table, I saw the banqueting table of the Lord, and I thought, I'm going back there. It's like the prodigal. I'm eating in a pig pen right now, and I remember what the father's servants were eating. I'm going home. And so I was a prodigal. I tried the other states because I wasn't certain that God was real.

I wasn't certain that he was the only way. But the darkness, drawing into the darkness, I learned he was the only way. And the breakthrough and the freedom came once I entered back into. And I'm not bound by a religion, you know. Right. I'm free. Yeah. I just tell you, I'm here preacher, preaching all the time. And I go, I find myself preaching, but I find I'm not a preacher, like in the traditional sense.

I'm just doing what God has told me to do. And it looks like this, but really, I'm free. Yeah. I, um. You've seen preachers bound. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Can you angle the mic more towards your face? I feel like you're getting a little further away from it. You can turn the neck too if you want, just like that. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. More directional. No, I've definitely seen preachers bound, and I've seen, I don't know.

Like, I'm in this season of my life where I'm getting to meet people who are in ministry. And I'm being exposed to ministers that are pursuing ministry and doing ministry that I thought almost was like fairy tale. You know, like, like, you hear flashes of stories throughout your life, but you're like, that, that actually, it's not common or that doesn't really happen. You never met that person. And you're, and you're one of these people that I'm sitting here thinking, like, you are one of these people that God is just radically using because you're radically walking in faith. Abedity. It's amazing. Like, what, so, and I'm sitting here thinking, uh, even our life, you and you and I, uh, our life patterns are similar. Like, I never, I never, I never, never went down witchcraft or anything like that. But I went to Bible College. I didn't graduate. My wife graduated from Bible College. There was a Pentecost of Bible College. And I went through a very dark period of my life where I was trying to tank my marriage because I was too much of a

coward to actually get a divorce. I wanted to give her all the reasons to ask me to leave her. And then you had your excuse. Well, she left. Yeah, exactly. But thankfully, she suffered through that with me and endured and we're still together. But I was sitting in a church at a funeral. And I literally didn't, I didn't want to be there. I was supposed to be at a wedding that day. And now it's more happy than this, this sad, sappy church stuff. And her uncle was a Baptist pastor. And he stood up and he started preaching the gospel. And it was like, it was that moment where like the prodigal son, it was like, in what you were talking about, the idea of like where the feast is at. The Lord said to me, you don't need a change to come to me, just come to me and I'll change you. And it was like the first

time that I truly had this this undisputable interaction with my maker. And I felt like that. I felt like I was coming back home to Dad's House, you know? Absolutely. I went to the reception of that wedding that night. My parents were there. My sister was there. Jack was there. And I waited until the end of the reception to tell my family what had happened. And, but the way you just described that is, is how I felt like I just really felt like I was coming back home to dad's table and it was time to feast, you know? And they believe you, though, in the beginning? What do you mean? Because I remember when I came back, nobody believed I was coming. Oh, no, they definitely believed. I was sobbing. Like, I was crying.

I was like, something just happened to me. I think I encountered God. It was so heavy. But, and then, you know, as life goes on, you know, like God has definitely, I say this with zero ego, he's raised me up to do a very unique work. Yeah. You know what? As I'm looking at you here, the cross is right above your head. Amen. You're in the cross. I want to declare something over you publicly that God is going to use you as a branding iron.

I just see this brand that comes out of you and it hits people's heart. and they become inflamed. Even now, I believe thousands and tens of thousands of people have already entered into the cross because of your example. But I feel to declare millions will be touched by the power of God through your life. And that is, you're faithful with the little. God will make you faithful with more. Even when you were little in your own eyes, God was using you in a powerful way.

Mark this. You know, when you get to the Lord, you'll say, Lord, I feel like nothing was happening there. And he'll say, well, look at this. And your eyes will open to see the God. great impacts that you had. There's a great saying that the Lord hides the righteousness of his friends from them to keep them humble. And I believe the Lord has kept a lot of what you've done from you so that you will continue to be faithful. Because he says, you know, we have the press toward the goal. Forgetting what's behind. Forgetting all of our fruitfulness. I always do this.

I have to forget those stories. And there's other stories. I call them my gemstones. Lord, just let me have more. Let me have more impact. Lord, let the future be more than the past. I don't want to live in that spot, but God keep bringing us. And you're 40 years old. That's a good age.

40 years in the wilderness. What did they do after 40 years? Let's go. They crossed over into the promise. And I declare, I feel this because I, you know, I've been on Sid Roth. He's 85 yet this year. if he lives 10 more years, God bless them, right?

But who are the new ones and you are and those like you are? And I'd been praying, I'd say, God, bring me to the new ones, the ones that are going to be here, the ones that will be faithful for the years to come. Because this voice that you have that's going out is shifting nations. And I want to be linked with people like that. Nation shifters, nation changers, Lord, you're a nation changer. And so there will be an increase in profile in the years ahead because your authority will become greater and greater and greater. That's wild. What you just said, I was just telling my wife yesterday, I said, I feel like I'm at the edge of the Jordan River peering over, looking at the promised land, just waiting for God to stop the river from flowing so I could walk across.

Now is the time. That's wild. Yeah. That's wild. That's wild. when you bring someone like me around. Okay. Hey.

We're going to, we're going to, let's start working on the schedule for the next business. I'd love to come back. Oh, my gosh, man. I like you. I like you too. It feels like we know, we've known each other a long time, you know what I mean? When God brings you together and I feel, I feel good about being. I go only go where the Lord tells me to go.

And when you go there, you feel safe. Yeah. So I feel this is a safe place right here. I was just telling the guys yesterday that there's a chemistry that I can walk away from an interview feeling or not feeling. That's right. You know, I don't want nothing to do with. Yeah, it's just like when the chemistry isn't there, sometimes the voice creeps in your head of like, you know, was that, did I do bad on that interview? What was the disconnect and stuff?

But hearing you talk and just this conversation, I think the chemistry is actually, actually, you know, the Holy Spirit. The spirit that dwells within. It connects. Because when I was driving truck, there was times that I'd get out of a truck to do a delivery. And I thought you said to do a deliverance. Thank you. Maybe one day I'll go back and try it. You will. But I'll be talking to a guy on a forklift and nobody said anything about God, but just our communication, you could just feel they're this person he's walking with God you can feel it you know the scripture says we know each other by the spirit so it's through the spirit we connect and when we're in the spirit with each other you can get with people who seem like they should be in the spirit and they don't trust you yeah

because they're not in the spirit they're in some other spirit that's good that's good that actually makes a lot of sense too so we're in the holy spirit connecting by the spirit and therefore we're of the same spirit. Wow. That's power because that's something I, because I don't really feel like I've been trained to think in some of these ways. And it's very new to me, actually, be honest. Well, you know, the Holy Spirit's your teacher. I've been noticing. Right. I used to have the people would say, who is your mentor? And the Lord said to me, I'm your mentor and I can use a thousand people to speak into your life. And I would have people pop up in my life, releasing the word. And I only ever saw them once and they'd be from India.

They were sent to me to speak that word and then it was gone. They mentored me by the spirit. I tell people, many of my spirits are alive, but many of my mentors have been dead for a thousand years because now I'm being a mentor by Augustine or Aquinas or by St. Paul. By the way, I could spend the next half hour telling you about how those people appeared to me in dreams and taught me things. Really?

Yeah, but I won't. Why? You'll have to have me back. Okay. I will. I will have you back. I will have you back for sure. I feel like, I don't, like, because so I'm notorious for showing up to my own interviews and just

having a general idea and just wanting to let it go. That's the best way. Yeah. And I feel like with you, I can easily do that because it's just like you're just a well of not only stories, but, you know, the, not everybody is, has the comfortability to just be able to be transparent and lay things out. That's where conversation happens. That's where the transformation happens.

I had this encounter where I was in a dream. And I was like young 32. And in the dream, I'm standing before a congregation completely naked. No clothes on. Missed me right up. I'm like, God, do you want me to do? I'm like, you're mine. And I was like, what are you saying?

What are you saying God? I don't know what this means. And he said, Darren, be transparent before the people. tell them your weaknesses, tell them your strengths. Just be real. Yeah. We have to be real. Yes.

Because if we put on a mask, and a lot of us put on a mask, you know, you're the guy who is greening at the church and you ask them how they're doing, they said, if I'm any better, there'd be two of me. I'm thinking, God, I hope there's not two of you because you're not real. You know what I mean? Like, really? Let's be real. Yeah. You know? And I also, like, and I feel like I'm just saying this a lot.

probably said a lot in recordings, but the aspect of being real, when you're not being real and putting that mask on, there is a lack of humility and a rise of pride in those situations. The reason why you put the mask on is fear. The fear being real, what if I do expose who I am, will I be accepted? But I've learned that as I'm real, people cling to the realness and you become a role model. You become somebody like a voice, man, I've gone through that. Or man, I've had that encounter. I remember when I first started talking about my stories, one preacher said to me, Darren, might want to be careful.

He said to me, because I told this story about how Jesus put me in a UFO and we flew across the universe together. And he was teaching me about time and about dimensions and all this. And he comes up to me after he goes, Darren, you know, you have all these dreams and they're wonderful, but you can't say in church you were in a UFO with Jesus. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Why? Why can't I say that? Why? Yeah. That's wild. And I kept saying it. And God blessed me. Amen.

Amen. So there's two things I want to bring up here because I don't want to, I don't want to end the recording without bringing it up. because you brought it up earlier, and I think I even referenced it earlier. I want to talk about the experience you had with the witches transforming into animals. Oh, they're awesome. But maybe we save that for after this,

because, and maybe there's not much to talk about here. You got to remind me, though, because I'll remind you. Because I've jotted this down. When we were talking before the recording started, I brought up something about UFOs. And you said a phrase, I don't know if I've ever heard before, but I was like, he gets it. I think you called it Nephilim spaceships. And I was like, oh, this guy, he knows.

There's the powers and principalities. The scripture says our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities in high places. So you talked about second dimension. They actually hover above us. They're hovering up there, lording it over us in a way. But on many occasions, I've had dreams. I mean, who, shundle, thank you, Lord, where I see in the dream, this happened about two weeks ago.

I was like in my dream look and I look up and there's a huge UFO flying in over the city that I was in. I don't remember where it was. But every city has these spaceships over them. These are the power thrones that hover over and they control every city. every city in the earth. Remember Independence Day? Yeah.

And you saw them all over the earth or over every city. This is what they do. And there's a spirit of control that controls everybody in that realm. So I had a dream one time. What we need to do is find the swords of light. And the sword of light is the word of God that breaks the yoke of the power. And Ephesians chapter three, there's a, I think it's around the sword. 16, 17.

Someone there says, the manifest wisdoms of God are given to who? The body of Christ. You and I are the body. Yeah. We have to lay down in the presence. The way to get into the Word, the Bible says, seek me and you shall find me, but seek me with your old heart, right? That's what the scripture says.

So there's a lying down. Lying down is walking away from the world, entering into the Word, dedicating yourself to prayer and fasting. and putting aside long hours of pursuing him, believing that God speaks through dreams of visions, believing that he can speak to you through prophetic voices or whatever, you're just lying down. So you're suspending the old way of thinking to enter into a new way of thinking, but the new way of thinking comes in the suspension.

You have to suspend yourself in order to learn the voice of God. But when you learn the voice of God, suddenly the wisdoms of God will come, which will transform your life personally. 90% of what you will hear is for transforming your nature into the supernatural nature, into the Christ-like nature. So I get healing of the heart, healing of the mind, lies that I'm in agreement with, break, poverty breaks, lack breaks, sickness breaks in the renewal of the mind. So the manifest wisdoms of God come to break the power of these demonic forces. but a prophet like Ezekiel in the chapter 37 of, there's two stories, but that one were the Valley of the Dry Bones.

When I wasn't a Christian, I'd be standing in the Valley of Dry Bones with Ezekiel. That story haunted me when I was saying I was an atheist. I just loved that story. Here's a man who somehow pushed into the voice of God to hear him speak to him directly. First of all, that's amazing in itself, that he's standing there and having a conversation. And God, God, only you know that. I don't know if that can happen. Just think of it as a conversation.

The Lord says, look, I'm just telling you to speak. I need your mouth because this round was given to you. And you have authority within this realm. I'm looking for men and women who tap into my voice to speak because I want you to have authority in this realm. He could come and change it, but he uses you and I. to transform this route. So we need to speak his word. When the wisdom of God comes and we speak,

we can transform cities with the word. But that word comes from intimacy with the Holy Spirit. Amen? Yeah. So I hear his voice and I declare what he says. Ezekiel says, to the bones, come together now. And it begins to rattle.

They come together. Then he says life coming and it rises up in army. That's a manifest wisdom of God. The Lord said resurrection power. He declared resurrection power. The army came back. The power over that valley, you and I can surmise, was a spirit of death. When that word was released, because it came from God through the man, the word was recognized as authority in that realm.

Even in government, and I served in government for a long time. If my super boss said to me, Darren, I want you go and collect information in that part of the country, even though I was a lower level analyst, now I have authority from the boss to go do it. Sure. And if those people say no, I'd go, big problem. You don't want to miss with the boss. And I was really good at that, by the way. I was.

I was, I was in your eyes. I said, I was like, oh, you've done that before. That's what I miss. That's what I miss. I'd go out there, I get the information, come back. Well, it's the same with the Lord. When I hear the big boss's voice and I go to these principalities of power, you don't want to miss with the big boss. Why?

Because they know I know my authority now. My authority is the word that was given to me. The manifest wisdom God is released and breaks the power over whatever I declare if I hear God's voice and speak. The word comes by the Logos, which is the written word. You need to be in that all the time. You should have that memorized. I have it memorized. It just comes back and I fight my battles with it.

It just is in there. But then the word by Holy Spirit is called the Ramah word. The word that comes by dreams and visions is also the word of God. If it's aligned with the word of God, the devil can speak to you too. So you have to learn to discern the spirit that is speaking. And so our job in lying down is to learn to discern the voice of God from our own voice and from the enemy's voice. But when we become stronger and stronger, it gets easier to discern. So you're saying, and I agree with you.

That's deep, I know. No, it is deep, but it's like, I think it's important. So people have to understand that when you have a dream and a vision, you have to practice a sermon, and that's not going to maybe be perfect every time. Right. I mean, you need to, for me personally, I had, thank God, I came out of a, a move of the spirit that had people that were mature. And so I would go to them and share my dreams.

The Bible says there's wisdom and many counselors. So I still get counsel. I still listen to other people. What do you think of what I'm seeing? And if they, you know, you really do. You're part of the body of Christ, no matter where you are, you're going to need people. God keeps us humble by making us have to operate together too, right?

An army is effective because it works together. If you've got all kinds of lone rangers out there without guidance or without it's going to be. But when God brings us together, we take land together. So I believe in getting dream interpretation. But after a while, you know what that means. A butterfly flies by, oh, God, you're going to create freedom in this region. Thank you, Lord.

I declare it in Jesus' name. Wow. I had a dream. I'm trying to remember how old I was. I think it was definitely before my my backsliding, but it was during, I think it was during when I was dating my wife. We were probably about 18 or 19.

And in the dream, I went downstairs into the church that I was raised in. In the basement. Into the basement. And I'm standing in the reception hall. It's a small church. And my dad's standing to, to my right, staring, almost like he's like a shell of himself, a zombie, not a zombie,

but like just like a drone, like just he wasn't, there was nothing there. And then to my left is an office and the office, I go downstairs. I see my dad say, hey, dad, what's up, you know? And he's just not answering me. And then the office to my left grows dark. And now I'm in a well lit reception area, but the office grows very dark, black. And all of a sudden, like, the room shifts and everything spaced out more. So like where I should have been right next to the office, I was further away, but my dad was further away. The room got bigger. And this, this black cloud comes out of the office and just starts, these black demonic hands started crawling across the floor towards me. And I'm like, dad, and he's just dead stare. Like he doesn't see anything. He's

just like a, like an avatar. And these hands, come on me and they grab me and they start dragging me into that office. And I'm being drunk across the floor. I'm staring my dad. I'm like, dad, help me. Dad, help me. And he's just nothing. And when I woke up from that, I was like, that was the most demonic dream I've ever had. And for years, I believe it was demonic dream until after I walked away from the Lord, I come back and I might have been retelling the story on the show for whatever reason. It was years later. the Holy Spirit revealed to me that was not a demonic dream. That was me telling you the path you were on was where you were, what it was leading to.

Because at that time of my life, I used my parents as a spiritual crutch. It's like my parents are walking with the Lord. And that's, that's, you know, I'm basically living for Christ through them. I was living for Christ through other people. Like there was a Christian hip hop group really popular back in the day called Cross Movement. They were based out of Philadelphia. Philadelphia used to be like the hub of Christian hip-hop, and that's where I come from. You like Christian hip-hop?

I love it. I love it. And so they, but two of the guys that I followed very closely had failings in their marriage, and it was very public. And when that happened, like, it actually did something to me spiritually, which should have been a sign that I was using other people in my life, whether it was through the music or my parents as the crutches. And the stories, the the stools to stand on to reach God. And when I got yanked out from underneath me, it was like, I fell. And so that dream that I had was revealed to me. And that's what you were talking about, the discernment side of things.

Like, I didn't have the discernment in the moment to see that dream clearly. It scared me. I felt like I was. There are many dreams you're going to get that are from God that seem demonic. But what happens is there's also healing dreams where your mind gets healed. the mind is a complicated thing okay and inside of it is pretty much every memory you've gone through but you and i were not created for trauma right we were to be born free in christ and and have peace at all times but we were born so the the the programming in us has been uh affected by the demonic

and everything that's there so the mind will try to bring to the surface through a dream the things that have come upon it that hurt it. Does this make sense? So if you've been abused when you're young, you've blocked the memory out. But in order for the mind to be healed, you have to see it again. And so the Lord will try to bring these things,

but you're like, I don't want to see that. You have to give God permission to see everything because by seeing it, healing comes. I had Jesus appear to me in my bedroom one time and brought me back to when I was four years old when somebody threatened to kill me. And I had blocked that memory out for 30 years. And he brought me back. I relived the whole thing again. And the heaviness left.

And I would live within that heaviness. I made decisions from that heaviness. And God wants to set the captus free. Amen. So your dreams are you got to keep an eye. Sometimes we think they're demonic, but you're not. You're right. They're not at all. Amen. Yeah. Yeah. And when I do want to say this, though. Can I tell you how I've trained my kids? Yeah. Absolutely. So this is where's wisdom. You saw the father there. Our row as father is just to teach the kids how to battle the warfare. So my son came to me, not this one, Joseph, who's the oldest boy, he's a seer or two, came to me when he's five years old. He said, Dad, Goliath was in my dream last night, and he was trying to kill me.

And I went, boy, the next time Goliath comes, kill him. I said, you just kill him. I said, don't let them be in your dream. And I never thought anything of it. Okay, he came back to me. He might have been about seven years old when this took place. He comes back to me about three months later. He said, Dad, Goliath was in my dream last night.

And I killed him. I killed him. So he killed the dark spirit that was there. Within one year of that, we were in South Carolina. I could tell you crazy stories about miracles and things. like this, but my, my boy was holding the supernatural gemstone that man came. I don't know if you've ever heard of these. They just appear. So he has one of my friend has one of these. He puts it in my boy's hand and all of a sudden the Holy Spirit went right into him. I mean, because the body says

that wisdom is greater than rubies. So all these things represent stuff supernatural, like spiritually. So he gets hit with the Holy Ghost and the gift of wisdom and knowledge enters into him. eight years old so that by the time he was 10, he had read 60 or 70 books. He had read Eclinus, Josephus. He had read all theological books. He had read all my books. He had read, he kept reading missionary books. He started getting dreams of visions about his future when he was 10. He's about to go to Africa with me because he knows he's called to be a missionary. He's 17 years old. This boy over here, same kind of thing where the torment of the enemy is broke from the mind and they can enter into the supernatural intellect by the time he was 12, 13 years old, I'd read 50 or 60 novels and some of

them were 1,200 pages long. So there's when the demonic is broken over the mind, there's a supernatural intelligence that's allowed now to grow. So there's a freedom to grow in your intelligence. And so we want to train our kids to take the enemy out from young age. How many kids you've seen tormented by the enemy you see them? Yeah. We need to teach them how to take that out. Wow. So, man, my son, he, I always say I think he was born, born saved.

I mean, he just, he, he, that's awesome. Like you said, I would say probably around two years old, three years old, you just saw the spirit of God in him. That's because it's in you. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. And he, he would have, so we were driving to, I think, preschool or first grade, and he was starting to share some dreams with me. And what you just, what you just said, oh, man, I never even would have considered saying, just kill him, you know. Who is he going to be? If you're not the warrior for your children, if you're not training your children to be a warrior, who's going to train them? You're a zombie inside the dream.

Yeah. Because our fathers didn't know how to be that for us. I think a lot of fathers don't even recognize that dreams are an area of battlefield. In the 1950s, which is a long time before you were born and 20 years before I was born, we had a revolution called television. If you would look at the old TV shows, they were trained to believe that dreams and visions weren't real, that demons weren't real, that angels weren't real. And that philosophy has been in our media for 70 years.

Yeah. Why would they believe? Why do they think? Why they're told it's not real? And so now you and I are coming onto the scene in a very different media. Yep. This is not like television. Suddenly we're allowed to tell our stories and not be like, okay, you can't say that.

And we're saying it. And therefore, there's a shift. There's actually a revival that's taken place. You're seeing the old media fall. And this media is rising because we're allowed to speak. And, you know, every reform, like every reformation, this is not just real. This is a reformation that's taken place. What's the difference between reformation?

Reformation is like Martin Luther. Suddenly everything in culture shifts because a new technology comes on, like the printing press, where you can release information for the masses. So the internet and especially podcasts, especially social media, especially Facebook, especially TikTok, especially YouTube, has allowed us to have a new printing press where information is released,

and now there's a greater, if you will, democracy within information so that people can get the information. Now we know demons are real because the shows like yours and other shows that are out there. We're releasing it, and now people are,

oh my goodness, it is real. Yeah. I used to think that was make-belief, but you're telling me it's real. Yeah. Your experiences are real. And what you were referencing, like, I try to use this example when I can, because we're spiritual beings. And we grew up, say, since the 50s and these decades since then, like in a society where it says that this isn't real, this isn't real, atheism is basically the way to go. God's not real. And you're starving to- all these things. All these things come out of this closed media system. Yeah. that's now destroyed. It's completely.

Completely destroyed. Yeah. Yeah. And you're seeing people, I don't want to say wake up, but. They are waking up. Yeah, but I feel like there's a spiritual hunger. They're becoming aware that they're hungry. And they're starting to eat.

And because you're starting to see, you're seeing people go for the things that are low-hanging fruit, candy, sweet stuff. That's not the steak that they're their man needs, but they're grabbing the first thing they can. the witchcraft. The thing is the Lord is allowing podcasts to be seeing. You're like on your, you're like scrolling through and watching videos. Suddenly here's Tony Merkel right in their face.

Yeah. And they said, and you're saying something. Like, why are they getting that? Because the Holy Spirit let you be seen. And now they're like, I don't even know.

They'll say, I do not even know how I got the Tony Merkel. But I've been listening to him for four or five months. And everything I'm hearing is transforming my life. this is what God is doing. He's using this to transform people because there's life in it. This is not a dead religion.

You're releasing the truth. We felt the Holy Spirit, right? So strong, they feel it. Right now, everybody who's listening feels a peace coming off to broadcast, that's Jesus. And so if you got Jesus and it feels good, it spreads throughout the earth.

Yeah. That's the Reformation. You see podcasts now, even like Joe Rogan, always talking about Jesus. And then Jordan Peterson from Canada, I don't even know what he's talking about, but Jesus is in the middle of it. I think he's like coming over slowly. You're seeing all these people coming to the cross.

And everybody, see, if you want to win a nation to the Lord, you've got to win the kings. The kings have to be Christian. And so at the top, so is at the bottom. This is the truth. So we need to win the top part in order for the nation to become Christ. You think Rogan is... He's coming there.

That's how I feel too. I don't know him. I mean, me neither. I like to know him. I mean, he's bald too. I know he subscribes to my channel. Does he? Yeah, he does.

It's not because of me. I don't think... No, he likes it. Well, no, what happens? Because you're bald. Bald guys, you must unite. No, he, he, the same day that he's subscribed to the channel, because you can see those analytics,

is the same day he reached out to a guest that had to been on my show. And I think he saw that episode. But he never had that guy on the show. But I don't think he actually listens or watches, right? Well, you know, he probably is watching on his phone and things pop up too. Right. Yeah. I wouldn't work.

You know what? You're being seen is what God is saying. Yeah. You know, you don't know who sees you. You don't. You don't. You know, no idea. Somebody walked up to me the other day.

He goes, man, what I like him, I thought, this guy knows who I am. I was on a trip and all of a sudden my PayPal went ding and I got an offering from a really well-known revivalist in America and I went that guy knows who I am you know you know when you're caught off guard when the when the pitch changes

yeah I've had some of those moments like who's the lead Jack who's the lead singer for Cree Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Scott Stapp. Yeah, he just followed us on Instagram. But like I told my wife, because my wife's like,

are you going to interview him? I said, it's not that easy because I think we're at a point now where people are finding our social media because of the reels and stuff, and they don't even really listen to the show. They just like those clips. And I think that's where the follow came from. But it's still pretty wild to see. I'm at a point now where I spent years,

not really having not knowing what kind of reach you have and stuff but now it's starting to get to a point where it's bubbling. You don't ever know. No, you're never going to truly know. But you start seeing whispers and signs like that. It's like, oh, wow. Or like, you walk in a room, they go, that's dark.

No, I'll tell you what happened. I'll tell you what happened. Where was I? I was at a restaurant the other day with the other Canadians that were here. And we were having dinner. and a guy walked into the restaurant, and the way he looked at me,

I was like, oh, I think he recognized. It was one of those looks where it's like, I can't place that guy. I know when I seen that guy. Because they're used to seeing this behind you. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, a bald guy, black beard. I just can't.

You know, when I was in the middle of the truckers protest, it was the impact was like big within that region. So I'm out at a restaurant one night, and I'm sitting there. And the waiter comes up to me, goes, I know you. And I thought, there's no way. I'm thinking, why would you know me?

I said, no, you don't know me. I'm just like, no, you don't know me. He said, I know you. I said, you don't know me. You were the guy that was driving his car through Ottawa, and you were talking about what was happened in downtown Ottawa. I went, oh, my God, he knows me. And then I got nervous because I don't want people to know me like that.

You don't want to be known. Who wants to be that well-known? You know, you're getting recognized, you know, especially for the truckers protest. Yeah, you know what? It's funny is with that, like, on the surface, you're like, what's the big deal? It'd be kind of cool if people knew who you are. But the only reason why people know who you are is because a lot of people know who you are.

And you can't control who knows who you are. And some of the people don't have the greatest intentions because they know who you are. No, there's the trolls. Yeah. There are the trolls, people who would have manifest in person. And that's things we've dealt with. And it's like that part of you're like, I can live without. You know, I could live without that part, you know.

But you're going to have to have both. Yeah, and you got trust that. That's where you just fall in line with trust being God. You brought you there. You'll keep you there. Protect you, right. And the family, you know. And you're especially our family.

Yeah. That's what we worry about more than that. Big time. Can I tell you a story? Please. I had a dream. You talked about Michael earlier, didn't you? Michael the Archangel took out the snake, right?

Yeah, yeah. So I'm in my, I had, before I ever was on Sid Roth, I'd watch James Gull, you know that name? That just sounds weird. He was a prophet out of 10. the sea out of Nashville area. Okay. And he was on Sid Roth, and he was talking about 10 weeks of encounters with angels and hell into his room, lights would appear in the walls and flowed up like that.

And I was like, God, if you can do it for James, you can do it for me, just like that. I'm praying that way. So about two weeks later, I'm in my room. I wake up in the middle of the night, and I'm like, and there's a light going up the ceiling like this. And it goes into my closet. And you know that you said earlier, the space widened. Yeah.

Well, these guys, there were three angels in my closet sitting around the campfire. There's a blue fire in my closet. And I'm, you don't, those that you wake me out in the middle of the night, I'd be a little cranky. Yeah. So I'm hearing them, they're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, they're talking to each other.

And I went, would you guys shut up in there? I'm trying to sleep, just like that. And then they go, oh, they laughed even more. You're trying to sleep, are you? If it wasn't for us, your family would have been in trouble a long time ago. And then Michael stood up. And Michael was 10 feet tall. His chest was this.

Like he was like this, like his chest. And he had no shirt on. And he had wings in his hair that were like this. They were like this. And then I was aware there was a big old naked guy in my room. And I was like, there's a naked guy. I got right nervous. Like, there's a naked guy in my room.

Like that, you know what I mean? Just being real. And then he can't get through my doors, like a door like that. He can't get through this way. So he has to turn and walk out. And he goes out like this, getting out. And he's going out to check on my family. I woke up.

I said, God. It was like I was awake and then I came awake again. Whether in the body or out of the body, the encounters are strange. Right. And I say, God, you're going to have to tell me we're in the Bible. It says that there will be angels. in my closet around a campfire, just like that. I was like, and he said, oh, I'm glad you asked.

Psalm 37, verse 4, the angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear him to deliver them from evil. So it don't matter where Tony Merkel goes. You've got an angel around you and you and your family. See, I needed that word in those days because my ministry is now going to India, going to Africa. I'm leaving my wife and five young children at home. I'd heard a story about a preacher from my region who 100 years ago had five young children and started going. And the devil told him one day, I'm going to kill your family. And he was going to rebuke the devil?

He said, I'm sending rapid foxes onto your farm. And they're going to kill your five children. So he came home and there was no telephone or anything to be able to communicate. He just prayed, amen. He came home. He walked the property and the foxes were dead before they hit the land. There were five. Literally five foxes dead.

Whoa. On the edge of the property that were rapid. They had rabies. Who, God will protect you. And when I saw that Michael was there, I can go to the ends of the earth now because nothing is going to touch my family. Nothing. Nothing.

Don't matter where we go or how we go and how many people know who we are, we're protected by the power of the Lord. Listen, you got to know your God is greater than anything that comes at you. They'll come at you one way and run in seven. You've seen this. Yep. Wow. Well, you want that story about the witch show.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. See, you said, don't let you forget. I almost forgot because I was like, because I was thinking of myself like, man, we could just keep going and go and going. I know we could keep going. We could. Yeah, we could.

But I want to hear this, though. Because you said it was three wishes or something at three different times or one which I don't know. times. It could be more, but the one that I will tell you, I was often when I've gone out, you know, I'm in the middle of flooding that's taken place in regions. I've been in the middle of four major floods and have to driven my car through water this deep to get to where I'm going to preach. The enemy will try to stop you in many ways and warfare comes in many ways. I agree. I'm in Northern England and I'm with a person who's not that redeemed. I'm just going to put

it that way and has a lot of control. We call it charismatic witchcraft in a way. And we're in the middle of this hurricane, tailing of a hurricane coming to England that's flooding out northern England. And the waters are 10 times their normal size. And I remember looking out and there was a spot like this that normally would have been a field and there are like 30 cows there and the water's rising up. These cows could drown.

This is the way the water was. and the bridges are being washed out. Well, we went preaching in Carlisle in Northern England that night, and there were 30 people that showed up in the middle of that weather, and mana appeared on the floor, like literally, like the manna that was in the Bible, appears on the floor. And when that happens, it's a manifest wisdom of God.

The demonic sees these miracles and hates them, and they will try to retaliate. So it's 12, 30 at night. The person I'm with is manifesting in a demonic way. and we're driving back through these, you know, in Northern England, you see these pictures of rock, like the roads, like the rock walls beside them. And you can only get one car down there at the tie. We're doing like 55 miles an hour down these in the middle of flooding that's coming in off the river,

which is only just right here. And I said to her, you need to slow down because the Lord said to me, there's going to be water on the road. I said, there's going to be water on the road. I said, there's going to be rotter on the road. She goes, I don't know. It's just like that. I've been driving them all my life.

It was like really like a cackling coming out of her. And I said, well, and as soon as we said that, we came over a hill and the river was over the road. We went through it. It was like the parting of the Red Sea splash. Well, when we got through, there's a car over here on the, on the right, and it's running. The doors are locked. Nobody in it.

And then I look over and there's a. a giant white owl sitting on a fence post over there. And when we hit the water, the aisle went right up in the air. I went, that's a demon, just like that. That's a demon. And she goes, no, that's the Holy Spirit. Like this, I'm like, that's not a Holy Spirit. Because you can feel it.

Like, this is a rough. So we ended up going back to the house. It was a 400-year-old stone house in Northern England. It looked like something out of a horror movie. The wind is, the shutters are going. and I'm in the room and I'm trying to sleep in the middle of thunder and lightning after seeing this take place, you know? So I'm in there. I managed to drift off of sleep.

And when I do, a guy from Scotland appears to me in the dream. A guy I met, he comes to me, the dream, goes, have you heard of the Scottish fairies? I went Scottish fairies. What in the world? Like, the wind is like, woo! And there's water, and you're like, the floods are taking place. and you're telling me there's Scottish fairies up here. What are these Scottish fairies?

So I went to Google. You ever go to Google? Usually ducked out these days. What are Scottish fairies? And I go to get this book listing all the Scottish fairies. And one of them is the Banshee. I don't know if you've ever heard of the Banshee. Where I come from in Canada, I come from the East Coast on an island called Newfoundland.

There's only 500,000 people there. And a lot of us are like a mix of First Nation or Native, Irish, English, and French. Okay. And so there's this Celtic religion that, sure, plus the weird stuff with the native thing going on. And we had heard about the banshee when I was young. The banshee is a demon that howls over the house in the middle of the night and somebody in the house dies. Wow. So this spirit was one of the Scottish fairies.

And then as I'm going through, there's a picture. And there's a guy has a top hat on, and he's got a monocle in his eye. He's got a suit on. He looks like the, you remember the peanut, the planter peanut guy, the character on the side? He looks similar to this, but on his shoulders a giant white owl. Wow. So the Lord said to me, that's the spirit that manifested. And the person got out of the car, transformed into an owl, trying to bring you out,

trying to take you out. He sat there to watch you die. Wow. But I got out of that town. I snuck out. I snuck out. It was so much more spiritual alert. They're going to compromise, you know. wipe the dust off your feet and walk away. So I wipe the dust off my feet. And the guy who appeared to me in the dream was the one who led me out. So he appears in my dream, but he's actually a guy I know, appears and leads me out. And remember I told you about. about my foot that was broke. My foot was broke. And I walked five kilometers on that foot to get to a town where somebody picked me up,

brought me to the train station. It took me 10 hours to get to a safe place. Wow. Wow. Wow. And that's why I'm tough. Certainly. The guy you just described, though, I don't know if you know this or not or have you

ever heard of it. Years ago, I think it was like episode. So it's 63, 67, yeah. I interviewed a guy named Zach King who was a former high wizard warlock. Right. And he talked about being paid to go and do spells for kings, rock stars all over the world. It was his job. I think he was one of like three or four that would do this.

They're very high in the satanic order. And he said he would dress in a top hat in a three-piece suit. Yeah, because it's witchcraft. Yeah, yeah. It's wild hearing stories like his and then just little shadows of what you just shared. It's like the worlds that come together. And that's the more I've done this, the more I hear.

A wizard or a warlock is very concerned with their physical appearance. They spend dozens of hours putting together their clothing so that they appear a certain way. Really? They'll grow mustaches and things to try to get you to look into them. So they will decorate themselves in a certain way that they draw attention to themselves. Yeah. You'll want to be near them because they're eccentric.

Wow. Yeah. And then they cast. Yeah. That's interesting. I never heard that's how they recruit too. So they have this, and not only that they have hand signals, they will speak with a certain intonation in order to draw you into their voice. They have the ability to to like almost like

to bring you into a state of consciousness that, how do you say it like a trans? Trans. No, they seduce you and all of a sudden you want to be like them. And so I'm one of my main mentors in government was a high level warlock who had seven personalities. I couldn't. Seven demons. seven demons and I had a dream that me and my friend were trying to rescue him from that darkness and I heard he will never be rescued. Can you imagine? Wow. This man was my father in the spirit when I was in that state. I loved him like a dad and I know you may not make it. Think about that. And he was grooming me to become that too. So I was learning all these things and practices. and one of the things they do is use their words to curse.

They will make loud sounds and bring curses upon people to control. So that's all a part of all that. So, all right, you just keep saying things and I keep thinking things. How long have we been? I don't know, like two hours. That's crazy. It's fine, though. The audience knows this story, and I'm not going to share the whole story because it's long.

but before I started a podcast, I was driving truck, but I was radically sold out for Christ after the church day. I found myself just this Holy Spirit overflowing, and I'm talking to people about Christ as I work. You know, another drive? I can't help it.

I tried. I tried holding it in at first because I was like, these guys know me as this really mean guy, and now I didn't totally opposite of that. And I feel weird, but I couldn't contain it. So there was a guy that was receiving my freight at this one place I would always go to. And we got to know each other.

And he wound up telling me he wanted to commit suicide. And so I kind of just told him, I said, God's got plans for your life. He invited me to his house because he acted like he never heard of God before. And the story goes, he turns out he was a warlock. He was a Satanist, practicing Satanist. And he tricked me to go to his house that day. And I spent three hours there. And even when I left there, I didn't quite understand.

understand what happened to me because I was this this was my like I was just before the podcast I didn't know any of this stuff um and one of the things that he said to me in his house just with what you just said the the seven um the demons that your mentor had this guy said to me before he told me who he really was and everything we started kind of talking about the gospel a little bit and I'm sitting across the table from him and he goes, do you believe in ghosts? And I said, I guess. At that time, I had never thought about it really. I kind of, I don't know about you.

Yeah, I mean, there's certainly, I was like, there's something going on, right? And he goes, there's seven ghosts in this house. And then he introduced, yeah, seven. And this is why the conversation continues, you know, maybe. Yes, I know. That's what I'm saying.

Because then he invited me into his basement to see the source of the, the ghosts. And I know it's a counterfeit of the seven spirits of God. So this is the opposite spirit. The inversion. And they're trying to counterfeit the seven spirits of God. And I didn't go with his basement, by the way. I just, I said, we need to stay up here. Because that's what I like, you don't want to be down there. I was like, because I forget how I really wish I could remember what he said, because he said something about how they originated from the basement. And I was like, if I go down there, I don't know if I'm going to come back.

It reminds me of something because I had had a dream. There was a prophet that everybody called a prophet in another part of the world. And I had heard good and bad stories about them. I don't want to say who it is because your audience might freak out. But I know I'm not going to sit. Yeah, we don't need to start trauma. Oh. And I heard, I said to myself, all I want is to meet them.

So I have this dream and I see an ancient church like an Anglican cathedral. and there's an iron rot gate and a creaky fence. You know, when you go, and there was a pencil in the gate. Don't ask me what that was about. And this young girl, a teenage woman, maybe 21, 22 appears in front of me. She goes, which represents the bride of Christ,

says, I just want to go down. There's a witch in the basement of the church. She goes, I just want to meet them. Just once, that's all. So she opens up the gate, goes down. And when she came out, she was discomple. bobulated her mind was gone it only takes one encounter with dark in darkness to destroy your mind well it's funny you say that because that it's kind of how i felt that day a little bit like like like i didn't

understand what was happening to me but when i left that guy's house you went down there right now you be able to be in a three-piece suit with a top hat and the monocle on your eyes going off to the birded man out in the desert opening portals and all that uh oh my gosh that's funny that i don't know that i don't Now you're doing this, which is greater. Oh, it's 100% greater. Shoot, I was going to say something. I forget now. It's gone.

No, you were basement, seven ghosts. Yeah, I know. It's gone, though. Maybe God didn't want me to say it. No, you're fine. Is your coffee cup leaking, by the way? It's all over my new shirt. Is it leaking?

Yeah, it was leaking. Oh, geez. It don't matter. I apologize. I'll have to fire Derek Fowler. Jason's really good at getting the stage. Derek sabotaged your cup. Jason will get it done for me.

So you said a phrase here and I got to bring it up because I've never heard it before and maybe it was off the cuff and there's really not much of a definition for it. But you said charismatic witchcraft. What is that? It's dangerous. So are we talking like people within like the charismatic church? So there's unconscious and conscious spirituality. Right? Conscious and unconscious. What we have to understand is that there are witches that are unconscious that they're witches, and there's some that are absolutely conscious of witchcraft. So some people are dabbling into witchcraft without realizing what they're doing is witchcraft. The boss is there's power of life and death in the tongue. So when we're in a on redeemed state, a lot of witchcraft takes place without us being realized it, but then we become more conscious of it. So

Many charismatic people are in on redeemed states. They're cursing people. They're gossiping. They're doing all kinds of stuff. And because of that, they're given power of the demonic over their lives. And so they're, in a way, charismatic witches. So in one way, they're trying, they talk to talk, but they don't live the walk. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So a lot of the churches are filled with leaders that are there. they don't know the Lord. There's going to be a lot of people. I don't even want to get into it, but when we get to the judgment,

there will be a lot of leaders that say, you know what, Lord, I cast out demons in your name. I prophesied in your name. I gave all that I had to the poor, and your name is says, go away for me. I never knew you. That sends me, tremble. It kept me from preaching for 20 years.

Right. I was terrified of being that. I don't want to be that. And I said, God, what does it mean to be that? And he says, it means you're not loving me and you're not loving the people. You're doing it as a job. You know what I mean? Like you're prophesying because maybe I'll get a reputation now.

I'll be on the confessionals, right? Like you're looking for reputation rather than that person is wounded and needs healing in their heart. I love that person. I don't want to see them in that state. My ministry, I for a long time, wouldn't do conferences. I hate it going to Christian conference. I was like, I don't want to go to them. I wanted to go, and I had to repent of this recently,

because now the Lord's like open up doors in that realm. But, oh, I would go to the highways and byways, out into the middle of nowhere, where people are demon-possessed in towns, and the towns is demon-possessed, and learn to love the people, and revival would break out in these towns. It was the love of God that compels you to go.

And if you don't have the love of God, you need to pray. Jesus, I don't love perfectly, but Lord, I want to manifest the love of the Father through my heart. We talked about the Father's heart. This is a Christian talk of having God's love in my heart so that it flows out to attach to the people. The Lord said that you will know me, and 1 John 4 talks about, you will know, you will, you'll love your, I wish I could get it. forgive me. You can edit this a bit. But essentially the essence of 1 John 4 is you will know you love me by loving the people around you. Yeah. So I don't know somebody and I don't like them. I can choose

to stay in that state of disregard for that person or I can pray when I'm standing in the front of them and say, God, teach me to love even them. And then all of a sudden the love of God wills up and you have greater communion. The way to be effective in evangelism is you've been a wounded by many, many people we all have, right? And so if another person appears to look similar to them, we want to write them off right away. But if I get healed of that memory of that person, suddenly that opens up an horizon to love a million people just like them. So Father, heal all my broken places of my heart so that I can love more perfectly. Because the gifts of the Holy Spirit, they're the most effective when we operate from the place of compassion and love.

Jesus went about healing people. Why? Compassion. He loved them. And so love will carry you to the ends of the earth. It will compel you to pray for two hours longer. It will compel you to drive, fly 16, tomorrow I fly 16 hours to the western part of Canada because they asked me to come because I love them. I'll go. I didn't have that. I shouldn't have done it, but I'm doing it because of the love of Jesus. Then I fly back to Detroit next week. Jason's driving back to Pennsylvania, 11 hours in my truck, and then he's picking me up in Detroit, and then we're going up to Milwaukee two weeks from now to love the people up there because God gave me a dream of a Great Lakes revival, and the opportunity came to be on the Great Lakes. Why wouldn't I go? Something's going to happen.

So I have to be there to love a whole different crop of people. Wow. That's wild. And I just saw, I can go down like dystopian mindset sometimes. I don't even know what that means, but do it. But no, it's like, well, I mean, I think, I think that if you take, if you just understand where the world's going prophet prophetically, there is a dystopian nature to it where it's just like, ah, world's going to get pretty terrible.

But I just saw... The dark gets darker and the light gets lighter. So even in the midst of the greatest darkness, we're filled with joy and don't even feel it. You don't have to worry about the darkness. Right. The darker it gets, the greater the light will be in you.

I've experienced that plenty. And there was somebody who posted, I don't know if there's on Instagram or where I saw it, but they said that the best place to be, during a cataclysmic dystopian type event is the Great Lakes. Really? I just saw that like two days ago. They didn't lay it out completely, but they ran numbers,

and they were like, it has the water, it has this, it is the geographically best place to be. Vineyards. You're out of the way of like the hurricanes, tornadoes. It's just a very... Have you been up there for a snowstorm? I have not. No, I tell you, I heard. The Buffalo snow, that snowstorm two years ago,

I was there the weekend before, I nearly got trapped in it. The next weekend, the city shut down and over 35 people died. Wow. Locked in the snow and frozen it. So there's some stuff up there. Maybe the person made that video wasn't. Look, I was on Lake Erie one time.

You'd believe in water spirits. You've had people talk about water spirits. So I was up there, and somebody took these pictures of a storm on Lake Erie, and every wave looked like a demon. Wow. Wow. So there's stuff up there. Wow. Wow.

By the way, it's First Nations. They love that place up there, that place. They have, like, hidden spots up there. There's spots up there that you don't even know about. There's crazy stuff up there. Like, don't think it's all beautiful up there. Everything's named after false gods up there. Thank you. Is it really? Oh, yeah. She'll come up with me sometime. I would love to. We have a lot of revival up there. Come up. I would love it. Yeah. It's not far from here, by the way.

No, I mean, I'm originally from Pennsylvania. I mean, from PA. From Philadelphia. Yeah. So Pittsburgh. I was just at Lake Michigan last year in Michigan. Erie. I was just at Milwaukee.

So Milwaukee's where I'm going to be two weeks or no. We're going to see. It's about a 12-hour drive from here. Yeah, thank you, Lord. I got a brand new car, too. I'm ruined it. That's how I feel I bought my truck. I bought my truck three years ago.

I put on 70,000 miles on so far. I know. I put another, when it rose from like 69 to 70, you're like, oh, God, too fast. I had a land rover and it had 37,000 kilometers on it, kilometers, not miles. It'd be like 20,000 miles. Okay. Two years ago or three years ago, now it has 160,000 kilometers on it. Wow.

Like, that's how much I drove for the gospel sake in North America. It's all, it's all for the gospel. Yeah. Now I got a new truck, and it's a nice one. got a hemi, you know what I mean? Yeah, they're faster. I'm like, God, before you know it, I'll have to get a new one again.

Yeah. So, Lord, pay it off quick. Thank you, Lord. Pay it off quick. The truck I got, they told me that I have a lifetime power train warranty on it. I was like, that'll work. What kind is it?

It's an F-150. Yeah. I call that the young man's truck. Yeah. It looks more young. I got the ram. It's called a long horn. And it's like a BMW inside.

Yeah. It's an older man's truck. It's funny you say that because I, I was just thinking like, you know, my next truck one day whenever that happens, I was thinking those Rams look comfortable. That, I'll take you for a ride, but that thing, leather seeds, everything's power. It's a beautiful truck. Wow.

I don't know if we should be talking about that. Yeah, anyways. The religious spirits might be like that too much. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just real life talk. You know A.A. Allen, you know that name? He was a prophet 50 years ago during the 19-fist TV revivalist. he had some religious tendencies.

Somebody gave him a Cadillac and he put it in his garage because he didn't want anybody to know he owned it. Oh, really? We can get that way. Yeah, I mean, but if you want to drive in 100,000 kilometers, you don't want to be in a Toyota Tricel.

You know what I mean? Especially with this back that I had, my lord. I want the big old. And look, look, look, I'm 300 pounds. You don't want to be in a small car. Which reminds me of India. I was in India in a tiny, car and drove 3,000 kilometers in it.

The guy was like, he's sitting here, and the gear stick is right here. It was like a shift stick. Every time he changed the gear, I had to lift my butt cheek up. So he could shift. Wow. So I got good at it. Every man after a while at here. Just lead over when you thought.

We saw in that car, 8,000 people came underneath the power of God. Wow. So you will not always be comfortable for the gospel. No, certainly not. But you'll have good stories. Yeah, certainly do. Very good stories. I'll tell you, before we wrap up here, you were talking about the, we brought up the charismatic witchcraft.

Many times it'd be almost wrapped up. I know, I know. Charismatic witchcraft. But I just told my wife the other day that, like, the idea of forgiveness and not forgiving, I'm down with that crap. We've got to forgive. I'm done with it because there's a part that there's a selfish part in the sense that I know by me not forgiving and truly letting go in my heart, like there's a blessing that I'm being held kept from.

But also like I want to be closer to God and I can't get closer. There's a wall that keeps me for getting closer to God when I don't have that forgiveness torn down. Anything, any darkness you're wrestling. It keeps you from a measure of peace. Yeah. So what we want is to carry the maximum of peace, you know. So I'm addicted to new levels of peace.

You know, Jesus gives peace, not as the world gives, but he gives a peace that is so strong that people will walk up to you and, you know, look at you like, and the job's done. You don't even have to preach. They feel it. They feel it. So, Lord, bring me to deeper measures of your peace. And that comes by dying to self.

that comes from dying. All the guys who work with me, all the young guys, like all the guys, I'll say two things. Be humble. Stay humble. Tony, stay humble. And then I'll say, Tony, stay pure.

You know what I mean? The purity is what's lack. I had an angel. Gabriel appeared to me in Louisiana one time. And he looked like Johnny there with the hair. Look at this. He was a young looking at us. Yeah, I love that here.

I used to have hair like that. Me too. Never thought it go away. No, I never did. I remember an old guy said to me once he looked at me, he goes, I used to have hair like that. And I thought, my God, I hope I don't lose my,

but now look, you know? So Gabriel appears a force was around him. He was like a little, looked like a university student, but there was this oar, the word aura, power, like a blue shield. around him and he looked at me, he said, Darren, the body of Christ is caught in sexual sin. Poo and that, I thought, you know, you can go, well, who are they, brother?

We always want to point out. But in my heart, I looked at the eyes, the things that I had seen, and all the opportunities of sexual sin and even among life, I said, God, forgive me. Lord, you know, like Isaiah the prophets said, what was me? I'm undone. I'm a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and then the angel comes from the altar and seals him with fire. Lord, send your fire upon me to purge me from every temptation.

Because temptation is not sin, but God, don't even let me be tempted. I don't want it. We can fall. We can fall. An angel said to me one time, it's a miracle you haven't fallen already. And when he said that, I'm like, excuse me, you want to be like, excuse me? I was like, you're right. It's an absolute miracle.

It's by the grace of God, I stand. And by the grace of God, I hope to stand for 40 more years and not be able to say I fell because so many of my friends have fallen in ministry due to sexual sin. And it's time to get the eye gates cleaned up. And the only way to do it is Lord, kill me. Lord, I want to live. A lot of the sexual sin is linked to fear or failure.

Really? Yeah, a lot of it. We're afraid to be seduced. Maybe I'll be seduced and suddenly we're in, really, the fear is propelling us toward people or fear of being abused and suddenly we're fear and then we're being propelled. And next thing you know, without even wanting to do it, you're caught up into these things. And it's lust, too.

But lust has a, there's death attached to lust. We lust because we don't want to die. You know what I mean? So therefore, our body, our spirit is trying to propel itself into. to life, and that's the only way we understand it. But the life of God is pure first. So, Lord, and the Bible says the pure in heart, they see God. So, Lord, I want to remain in a pure state of consciousness before you.

I've had people walk up to me this week, couldn't look me in the eye. They're like, because they don't have purity of heart, and they can't handle the purity of God. So, Lord, you can look me in the eye. Very much. Right. I was just thinking, I think I can look him in the eye the whole time. Because there's a desire and a hunger for purity. Right?

There is. And so that's what we need. Lord, I pray and I say, Lord, keep me in the state of hunger. Lord, I'm not as hungry as I should be. Pour your oil upon me so that I am hungrier. Let me be hungrier every single day. Let me be thirsty. I don't even know what thirst means, God, but Lord, help me to be thirsty.

Oh, amen. Amen. You're fine. Yeah. You're, that's crazy. We're, all right, we're going to end the episode for sure, but I just got to say this. You're the second Canadian that I've had in studio in a week. Right.

And you're the second Canadian that looked me in the eyes and said, you're fine. Well, that's because that's okay. I can say, right? No, I don't know. I was going to say, like, you know, for me, for me, God, God always said to me, you're fine. He always says to me, he goes, you're fine. He had just got done praying for me. And he says, look at me in the eyes.

I look at me in the eyes. And he's like, yeah, you're going to be okay. You're fine. You're fine. It's one of the greatest words God speaks. You're fine. You know, it's really saying, well done, good and faithful servant. You're doing okay.

Yeah. Take that. You'll stand. When you've done all you can, you'll stand. Yeah. Things will come, but you'll get through. My friend from Africa the other day, he's like, Darren, you're about to go through a storm.

I'm like, God, I don't want to hear this. You're about to go through a storm. I see you like the disciples and you're getting aboard the boat. Jesus sent you into the storm. I'm like, oh, Lord, you know what I mean? Yeah. Jesus sent the disciples on the water.

A storm comes at three in the morning. Now, you're out on the water, three o'clock in the morning at night and the big old waves are coming all around you. And then Jesus appears like a ghost on the water. Do you imagine I would have been like, and you can't run. You can't go anywhere. You're in the middle of the storm, but Jesus appears and the storm goes away.

That's the word for you. No matter what storm you go through, Jesus will manifest in the storm. And sometimes he sends us into the storms so that we are strengthened by the power of God. Every time you have a storm, God wants to give you the word above the storm. This two shall be a pass.

Two years ago, I was seven months on an intravenous because of a staff infection that came into my knee. The poison went up into my spine, and my spine swore up. And the level of pain was a tent. And I was in that for two months in that pain. And then I got constipation. I couldn't have a bowel movement for one month.

What? Yeah. Whoa. And the intensity of the pain in the middle. I was like, thank you, Lord. Wow. Thank you, Lord. And they said, this too shall pass.

Thank you, Lord. Every storm passes. But listen, the good times pass too. So we're in the middle of what's good, say this two shall pass. Good will come, bad will come. But eventually we'll be surrounded by him and glory forever and ever, amen. Endurance. Endure to the end.

They're the ones that win the prize. That's a good word. Let's wrap it up here. Darren Cannon. All the way from Canada. First time on the confessionals, all the way from Canada. and sir, I had no idea what I was getting myself into, but I am so glad I did. This is good.

Thank you for bringing me off. Absolutely. I'm honored to be here. I love what you're doing. Keep it up. I will. Thank you. Break the spell, l'lis.

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