The Confessionals - 87: Bigfoot Stalks Horseback Riders

Episode Date: September 4, 2018

On Episode 87 - our first official Tuesday release - Charles joins The Confessionals to share his bigfoot sighting. While riding horseback in Texas, he first noticed what looked like a peculi...ar set of footprints, followed by his horse’s sudden, odd change in demeanor. Only moments later, Charles experienced a sight crossing his path that he’ll never forget - one massive bigfoot!Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3

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Starting point is 00:00:03 This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
Starting point is 00:00:49 They basically decapitated. Placer, got closer, got sparsum, when he got about... I feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over, and there are two small gray entities pulling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush and I touched air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel, and thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. Or you can go to the website, Theconfessionalspodcast.com. hit the connection section and you can reach me that way as well.
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Starting point is 00:03:19 to the squad. So thank you very much for going to patreon.com forward slash the confessions and signing up to become a patron to help support the show. It really does mean a lot to me and it really helps keep the show going. So I really appreciate that. Now, moving on here, we have Charles coming on this week and Charles has a big foot encounter where this thing actually seemed to stock him and the people he was riding horses with one day. And he tells the story of this thing crossing their path.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It's very interesting. So let's get right into it. All right. Tonight we have Charles coming on. And Charles contacted me on Facebook. And Charles, how you doing, man? Good, man. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'm doing great. I'm doing great. So right now you're driving for work and stuff. And actually, to be honest with you, this is the first time I've actually done an interview that wasn't in a controlled environment per se. So we're hoping, hoping everything goes good. I'm sure it will because your audio sounds real good right now. And so, well, you have a Bigfoot encounter you wanted to share with me. And then you were also telling me that you had some demonic things happening more recently to you. And so why don't we just start off with the Bigfoot encounter that you had and stuff? I know you're down in Texas. And the experience happened just outside of Houston, if I remember correctly.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So just kind of walk us into what happened. Share with us, you know, the details of what were you doing that day and how this whole thing transpire. Okay. It started out, man. I was, I lived in a certain place and then my sister had lived, actually my step-sister. She lived about 30 miles away from me in a close to a little town called Cut and Shoot, Texas. I actually, for the first time in my life, I was in a place where I could, to purchase and own a horse and take care of a horse.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I did that and my horse stayed in my sister's house because where I was at, you know, it was just too small. Plus I had two kids I was raising on my own. So my weekends consisted of going over to her place and, you know, riding my horse doing stuff like that whenever, you know, I could. And we had planned this weekend. It was like a, it was going to be a beautiful spring day. We had planned to go riding this particular day. So we were up at the break at, oh, I was up at the break at dawn, drink coffee, watching the two settle or the miss settle from the night before because it was like, it was going to be a beautiful day. like the mid-80s during the day, which is perfect, Texas weather, especially down there. And so we'd gotten our horses ready and everything. We hopped on their back after we got finished with the coffee and everything. And we rode to a friend's house because he was going to ride too and get his horse.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And so it was my sister, her husband, and then our friend Tommy. I don't know if I was supposed to say is not. And we had to get to, we rode to his house, picked him up. actually he joined the the crew there and the where he was riding is going to be a big a big hunt lease is like 5,000 acres
Starting point is 00:06:35 and you know it wasn't being used because of springtime and they were pretty cool with us riding back there and his Tommy's land happened to connect to the property to the hunt lease so we went down his property and took a little shortcut through the woods and we were out there on the hunt lease actually and we had come to this
Starting point is 00:06:54 to this big sandy patch that was nothing but sand and there was no there was no prints in it except there was a bare footprint in single file about six seven feet apart
Starting point is 00:07:09 and the sand was moist and stuff and it held shape real well whenever it put its foot down it was a long narrow footprint that kind of like had more of a point going towards the big toe from the little toe you could see them all there
Starting point is 00:07:23 but it was really pointing And I was like, I'm looking at this stuff. And, you know, everybody else is just riding along casually. Like, they don't even care about footprints. And I'm like, who in the world is out here barefoot doing this stuff? And I just couldn't get over the fact that somebody was out there barefoot. Man, this place is bad for snakes and, you know, briar patches and everything else. So the last place you want to be is out in the middle of the sticks, you know, going barefoot.
Starting point is 00:07:51 But finally I let it go, and we rode for a little while. About three or four hours later, we come to a T, and we took a left, and we didn't know it at the time, but about four blocks down, it actually ended in a metal fence there, and we couldn't get across, and it was just kind of a dead end for us, basically. And along both sides of the fence, in both directions, there was about three or four feet on each side of the fence. that that was cut. You could tell they clear-cut just to get the fence down. So they maintain that little trail along each side of the fence. And the road we're on, we were actually around a little road, but they had clear-cut over to the wood line,
Starting point is 00:08:38 probably about five or six feet on each side. So, you know, the total distance is probably the size, the width of a two-lane road, basically. And this is coming to play here in a second. But we got to. the fence and realized, hey, we couldn't go anywhere. So we turned the horses around and started walking back. And we got, I don't know, probably 75, 100 feet away from the fence.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And I had stopped and I was looking down and there was a snake in the road and the blood was still pulling from his head, running, actually, from his head. And I'm sitting there looking at the snake and I turned my horse around because I didn't look down to like I was right beside it. I turned my horse around, which would have me pointing towards the fence, facing the fence again. And I'm looking down a snake, and what it is is a little coral snake. And I had the whole thing going, you know, red, red touches yellow, kill a fellow. I was trying to go through all that in my head as I'm watching the snake.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And after, I don't know, about a minute or two of studying the snake and I was still moving, the blood was coming from his head. I had looked up. And I'm looking dead at the dead end fence or the fence. that we had just, you know, turned away from. And for about a split second, I'd looked up, and I don't know what caused me to look up to hold my gaze. Actually, it was probably more like five or six seconds.
Starting point is 00:10:02 But I was just staring at the fence, and I was just like, what's going on here? And I couldn't figure it out. And then all of a sudden, this red, red, and the thing that caught me most was how the hair that come off his arms. But anyway, it had taken a run and jump, and before it even left the fence along, or the wood line on each side of the road, on that side of the road, it was already in the air.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And I got this perfect view of this thing, this creature, just like right over the middle of the road there, kind of in a real fast running stand. And he had his right leg forward, so I couldn't see no genitals, but I'm sure it was a male because of the way he was built. And for a split second, I saw the thing, jump across the road. And he, like I said, he was in the air before he left one tree line. and then when you got across the road, he didn't touch the ground until after the second three line. I didn't even see him actually touched the ground at all.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And I was just, I was like, done for a second. Then I spun in my saddle real quick, and I started to yell out, hey, did you guys, and I looked back and they had kept walking. They weren't even looking the way I was. And I said, I finished on with it. I said, you know, did y'all see that thing,
Starting point is 00:11:13 jump across the road down there? And they were like, what thing? I go, just down there. I go, y'all didn't see it. But anyway, Tompun just jumped across the road there. And they were like, oh, it was a deer. I'm like, no, no, no. It was not deer, no cows, anything else.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And, I mean, it was a real brief encounter, but. And even then, it wasn't thinking to me, you know, Bigfoot or anything. I'm just thinking this creature. And it was probably, it was probably about six and a half feet tall. It was built kind of like a, it was, it was, it was, look like a marathon runner, but a lot bulkier. I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't this eight thing, like no Arnold Schwarzenegger thing. It was, it was, it was tall and thin, but it was real ripped and it had, you know, a quite,
Starting point is 00:12:01 quite a good, I don't know what you'd call it, but it was, it was just a real tall, marathon running looking thing that was really cut, cut, that's it, in the muscles. You could see, I mean, you could see every muscle in from the, chest all the way down, and his hair covered completely, except for a little bit around the face. His eyes, he had looked, he had even had that, that, he'd seen that I'd seen him do that, okay? And then I knew what in the, well, I'll get to that a second. Anyway, he was looking at, his head was still straight, but he was looking at me. I could see him looking out the corner of his eyes as hard as it could, and he had that look
Starting point is 00:12:43 in his face like, oh, God, I've just been busted, you know? And his mouth was a little agape, and he had, like that, the hair on his arm, that threw my attention and got the most stuck in my head out of the whole picture. I don't know, but I could, you know, the hair was on his arms were just hanging down. Actually, they were kind of being blown back from the forward motion. And they were probably five or six inches. The hair was all over and was about five or six inches long. Even on the head, I mean, the hair didn't grow excessively longer than any other hair on him.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You know, all the hair was pretty uniform over his body. I mean, I could, and I could, the thing was, he was a reddish color, and I could see right through his skin from the position of the sun and the way the whole scene played out in front of me. And the skin was almost kind of my color, maybe a little bit more gray than my skin, than my skin. And I got white skin, by the way. But it had maybe a little bit more gray to it. But, I mean, it was still pretty pink. and you could tell that he was he was a young kind of a younger one i'm not going to say how young i mean at the time i was 29 and i was thinking man he's only about 20 years old 23 years old something like
Starting point is 00:13:59 that and i just caught so many details but like i said the thing that stood out the most was the hair just hanging off his arm and like and he had like he said he had his leg kind of his right leg forward i was looking at him from his right side and it was like a two-d pitcher it was just perfect, man. And his right leg was forward, but he couldn't see no genitals or anything. But, you know, he didn't, he had a really cut chest. There was no, there was no bulges where his breasts should have been, you know, or anything like that. It was just square, you know, kind of square, and he could tell it was just a chest from a male. And for the longest time, that, that image of him just hanging, just hanging there over the road, it just been stuck in my head
Starting point is 00:14:46 until, and I was like, is this thing, you know, is this image you ever going to get out of my head? I'd wake up and I'd see it all through the day. I'd see it, you know, this went on. This was about, let's see, the spring of 2003, because in 2004, early winter of 2004, I had met my wife and I'd moved up here to Fort Wayne, Indiana. And I'm from Texas. I was born and raised in Texas, specifically Pasadena. but, you know, I really didn't get introduced to the woods, so I was about 14 years old.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And I've had several things happen, but that's another story. It's just, and finally, I don't know what else, I mean, it's hard to, I can look and still see it plainest day, even though there's something else that it's been occupying my mind here lately.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And that was, that was it, man. It was just a real, a real split second thing that I just happened to be looking in the right spot. And something, something pulled my gaze to there and, and held my gaze on that spot for a few seconds. I just, I just didn't look up and turn away. I looked up and it was like I was locked on in that spot. And then, you know, all of a sudden, this creature just jumps out, man. And there it is.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Just plain as day. Right. Literally. And I was, like I said, 75, 100 feet away. So I got a pretty good look at him, you know, and details and everything. And his hair wasn't un-a-lawed or anything like that. It was like he just stepped out of a grooming salon or something. Like a dog looks whenever you take him out of a grooming salon.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It was, oh, man, me, no matted hair, no mud, no any other thing. There wasn't, wow. I mean, I saw, like I said, I saw a lot of details of him. But just the thing that stuck out for most was the hair on the arms. I mean, I don't know really what to say beyond that about that. I mean, it had big blocky teeth. Like I said, his mouth was open a little bit, and his teeth are kind of square and blocky.
Starting point is 00:16:50 They're white. And they had a little gap between them, you know, between each tooth. But yeah, man, that was that situation there. So you see this thing. roughly how far was it again from where you were at, like distance between you and it? The distance between me and it was probably 7500 feet. And I, like I said, I'm on the horse, you know, and I'm kind of, you know, I'm a little bit taller than it was than on my horse.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And it was up in the air probably about two feet off the ground, the whole trip across the opening. So, I mean, there's no, there's no. person barefooted, that could have made that jump. Because, I mean, the road was a gravelly road. And then there was grass on both sides and plus the trees and everything else. To be in barefoot for a person to do that, there's no way. There's no way. He would have either slipped on the grass or stepped on a rock or something, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:00 and would have messed up his jump, the whole, you know, would have messed the jump up or the landing. One of the two. There's just no way it was a person doing that. But, like I said, it was a red hair. It was a reddish brown, I guess more of a black-red color. But, you know, I could see all the way down to its skin. The hair wasn't good at all. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And like I said, it was about six, five to, I'm not going to say it was closer to seven-foot, but, you know, then again, I didn't see it standing, you know, straight up. It was kind of in this running position. and its hands was slayed open, and like you said, his right leg was forward, and his left leg was forward to the best, you know, which first was covered in its genitals and all that. I just, you know, so.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah. So, I mean, when this thing jumps across the road and stuff, I mean, roughly the distance it covered, I'm thinking it's what, 10, 15 feet? No, it was more than that. It was, it was like, it was a two-line, It was about the size. I mean, the road itself was like a single five-foot length, okay?
Starting point is 00:19:10 And it was Bravo-Kaliki Road. I don't know if you ever heard of Kalee, but it was that sort of paved or that type of road. And there was probably at least five or six feet on each side that they had mowed down before it got to the woodline on each side. So, I mean, five, 15, yeah, I guess 15 to 20 feet. Okay. On both sides, or total, I mean. And that's a hell of a distance and bears us. And there's just no way it was the person that made that jump.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I mean, you saw this thing. I mean, most people that have these types of experiences, not like yours, I should say it like this, most people that have a big foot experience, not encounter, but experience, don't actually see the thing. And you saw this thing. I'm assuming you're riding the horse, so it's in good daylight. And so you see this thing, you know, jump across the road at you. Now, you saw footprints before you saw it. And what's the time distance between the time you saw those footprints that made you question it
Starting point is 00:20:07 to the time you actually saw this creature? Okay. I saw the footprints and then we were riding for probably, oh wow. This was back in 2004, so you have to forgive me here. No, that's fine. We were probably riding for about 30, 45 minutes when we come across the watering hole or a mud hole. Actually, it was a mud hole, but it was still a little water about four feet deep. And we were riding our horses to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I can like to pull. and probably about another 30, 45 minutes later, we come to that start in a row where the road with the gate on it teed into the road we were on, and we decided to take that because, you know, we'd never been down there. And then that's what we ran into that gate, and it was a green gate,
Starting point is 00:20:50 and we didn't know where it was going to run into a gate about three or four blocks down. Like I said, so we turned around and started to head back the other way, and I was looking at the snake on the road for some reason, and then I don't know something something inside me said look up
Starting point is 00:21:07 and I don't know I wasn't I was there maybe two seconds and there it is it just dumps right out in front of me and I'm just like you know there was other things that happened that spring too and just
Starting point is 00:21:21 even though I was in kind of a denial that you know and this whole time I'm not thinking big foot seriously I'm not man I was not thinking big foot at all. About the coast that ever came with Bigfoot was when I was a child, I went to Louisiana, and that's where my mom's side of the family's from, and that legend of Bongy Creek come on.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It was like 1974, 75, or something, you know. And I never, as I was growing up, I entertained the idea, but never, you know, never when in my life would have been like, you know, never what I thought I'd seen one. And honestly, when I did. see one. I didn't really think it was a big foot. I just, some hairy red creature just jumped out across the road or the little road there in front of me, man. And it was life-changing, man. That image has been burning my head forever. And like I was telling you, man, I was like, is there anything that's ever going to get this image out of my head? And of course, that was a horrible thing to say out loud. And I was just by myself. And I'm like taking the
Starting point is 00:22:26 stuff and say it out loud because it seemed like every time I turn around, there was a teacher was, in my head, you know, just right there reminding me, you know. Well, I mean, you experienced something that most people don't experience. And I'm curious, though, with what you just said, that you, you know, it's something that you wish you could have out of your head and you kind of felt bad for saying that. I'm not exactly sure why, because a lot of people, once they see these things, they wish they never had.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And obviously, your encounter wasn't a violent encounter. and it doesn't sound like you were terrified. No. Why do you feel that way? Why do you feel like you felt bad for saying that? For saying, be like, is this never going to get out of my head type thing? Thinking that? Because it was just always there.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It was a constant nag, and it's a constant reminder. I grew up hunting, and I loved the woods. I was more comfortable being in the woods by myself than being with my friends out of skating. in the early, you know, 80s and stuff, you know? Yeah. It just, just the way it was. I was kind of alone and kind of by myself person, you know, get to myself.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I had friends and we do crazy stuff, but, you know, I was just always, if it come down to, hanging at the skating and look at pretty girls or being out in the woods by yourself, I'd always take the ladder. But, yeah, man, and I've seen it. and it's really affected me hunting. Like when I really came to turns with it,
Starting point is 00:24:07 it was probably, I don't know, probably 2008 or 2009, after I've been in Indiana for a few years. And I'd been hunting a couple times, and, you know, I just cannot, it was always there reminding me that it was there in my head, that is, and it kind of made me skittish being out in the woods. I even went out and bought a Smith & Westin'W500, and I carried that on my chest whenever I went in the woods. As a matter of fact, I don't leave the house without a gun, and some of my route takes me through country,
Starting point is 00:24:40 and I don't ever plan I'm getting stuck on the fly on the road, you know, just in case, because up here they start talking about dog man and everything, and, you know, it just kind of made me shy about going in the woods, especially in the morning, walking into the woods, you know, and then in the evening, as the sun's already down, walking out of the wood, oh my God, it's a horrifying time for me, and I don't know why. It's just, that's just the way it is. And I've been doing stuff to try to, I've been trying to face it head on by going hunting and everything, but the thought is always there. And then I was just brought myself to thinking and speaking, and I'm just like, please,
Starting point is 00:25:20 come up and get this out of my head. I don't want to see it no more, you know? Yeah. I'm not going to go out there and go hunt for them anything, anything like. that. But I don't go in the woods without a gun anymore, whether regardless of what I'm doing. Yeah, and that's understandable. You know, the fact that this thing is red and stuff kind of, and the fact that you didn't feel like you were in danger is almost a contradictory sometimes because so many people say when they see these things out there, that when they see a red one,
Starting point is 00:25:54 that those are the ones that tend to be more violent and aggressive. I had actually a guy on my show, oh man, it was a while ago. I think it was like episode 31. And he talks about experiencing the violent nature of these red ones. He hates them passionately. Absolutely 100% hates him. And I've heard this before. And so yours was totally different.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Now, did you ever get a sense that maybe this thing, or not even a sense, but did you ever sit back and wonder, you know, you saw, those prints and then it was a long time after you saw the print. Like, I mean, we're talking a good amount of time that you actually saw this thing. Do you ever feel like maybe this thing was stalking you at all? I saw the print
Starting point is 00:26:36 and the only thing going through my mind at the time was who in the world was out here leaving print, walking around the woods barefooting? Because this is a place where it's full of water moccans, the odd rattlesnake, and obviously coral snake. And plus,
Starting point is 00:26:52 you're out there walking on this on this land, you know, whoever it is walking on this land and there's briar patches everywhere. I mean, you can't, you can't get, it's like you can't even get to a, to a sandy place without walking through a briar patch first. I don't know what the
Starting point is 00:27:08 conditions are that caused that, but that's the way it seemed to be there in East Texas. And so my thoughts were, who in the world's leaving these footprint? Why are they out here in bare feet? That's my thoughts. There was no other thoughts before then. And then,
Starting point is 00:27:22 I saw, oh, something I forgot to add, before I saw the creature on that way, when we took a left to go down that little road that feed into the main road we were on, my horse, and, you know, I swear if I ever, if I can ever go hunt with a horse, that's what I'm going to do from now on, because they will clue you on. And if you have the sense enough to pay attention to what your horse is telling you, okay, in his own little way, my horse was the whole, the whole trip down. the road. He didn't want to be there. He kept looking to his left. His ears were caught to the left. And he was practically jerking the reins out of my hand because he was wanting to look to the left. The whole time, I mean, he was real skittish. I could just tell when his front legs started getting that herky jerky feel to him, the ride became just uncomfortable as seemed like for the horse. And he was looking to the left the whole time. And this creature jumped from the left to the left to the right, okay?
Starting point is 00:28:24 And of course, you know, it took me even a while just to clue in on that well after the incident, and it was well after, I actually, it was well after me coming facing it head on and telling myself, okay, this is what you go on the woods after I revisited the whole scene, you know, in my life, about 2007 or 2008. And then I started picking up on all the little things that had been going on prior to that. And then, and the biggest thing was the whole, my horse knew that it was there. And if I would just, I been paying attention to my horse and even glant, you know, what he was trying to do and where he was looking and the way his ears are caught,
Starting point is 00:29:03 who knows? But, you know, I often wondered, was he stalking me or did we just run across it by chance? You know, maybe it was going up to our friend's house. And I don't know, getting, getting four speed or cowpeed, because they had a little cow that they were raising for 4H on their property, too. So there was feed out, and I don't know if he was out of curiosity, getting the food from the horses and the cows or what. And then I think what happened was that we had started going on that little trail ride that day, and he got busted. He spun around, and he took off just as fast as he could across that sandy little area there.
Starting point is 00:29:48 and then, you know, all you could see was the footprints in the sandy area. You couldn't see nothing before or nothing after it. And the way he took off, we wasn't even really going that way in the first place. So, you know, I don't know if he was stalking. If he had other buddies around, I mean, thinking about why the horse was acting, you know, they really didn't see clued in on anything else. My horse's concern was mainly what was still left. And him not wanting to be there.
Starting point is 00:30:20 He got in a little barn star real quick and he wanted to go back home. Yeah, you know, it's funny that you said that because when we had our little mix up there with our, you know, I said, go ahead, finish the thoughts. That was actually just going to be another question that I had. And I figured I'd wait until later, but you covered it anyways. Because I was going to ask you, you know, your horse. A lot of times people say the animals know that they're there. They sense something's off. And I was wondering if he had to experience anything like that with the horse.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Now, you said that, you know, the ladies, I think you said, it was all ladies that were with you, right? No, no. It was my wife, or my wife, my, uh, my step-sister, her husband, and then a friend of ours. Okay. His name happened to be Tommy. I'm not going to tell you his last name. I probably shouldn't even say that. It's fine. So those two people, the two men and the one lady, uh, they didn't, they didn't see it. And no, did they ever mention that their horses were acting up that day at all? No, actually, I don't know. I never really asked about their horses. All I know what was, the plague that was plaguing my horse.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And like I said, even then, even in the moment, I'm just like, just go straight down the road, quick trying to turn around and yank the reins out of my hand, you know. I'm not thinking, hey, there's something off the left I should be aware of, you know. Yeah, man. Actually, here's a little side story. A few years ago, I was hunting on some property, and the guy had horses down there. and the horses were mind their own business, nothing going on, and then both them picked their heads up,
Starting point is 00:31:54 and they cocked their ears and looked that away, and I looked over that away because I noticed them take that real sudden stance like that, and here comes an eight-point butt right down the ridge line. So I'm like, man, if I ever get a chance to go hunt with a horse or something again, you know, I'm there. I'm going because, man, they are some, they will paddle-tale on anything in the woods that, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:16 catches their attention or spooks them. You just got to be able to, you know, see the sign for what it is and not think it, you know, at these barns hour. He wants to go home. He doesn't want to be ridden and all this other stuff. After we turn around, I mean, he had to,
Starting point is 00:32:31 after we turn around and started walking away from the gate before I seen the snake, he had a little bit of a bounce in him. Like he wanted to put some distance between us and the gate there. And then, of course, I stopped him when I saw the snakes because you rarely, rarely, unless you go digging for coral snakes,
Starting point is 00:32:46 in king snakes in Texas, and you better know the difference between the two, you know, you never see them. And that's why I was just like, wow, how did the snake get here in the middle of the road? And like I said, the blood was fresh. It was still pulling, pulling out of his head, you know, still bleeding and huddling around his head and stuff. And his tail was kind of wiggin a little bit. Now, I don't know if maybe one of the other horses stepped on it or maybe the creaker might have
Starting point is 00:33:10 threw it out there to, you know, I don't know, whatever, to spook us or spook the horses or whatever. I don't know how the snake got there. I'm not, and what killed the snake? All I know, it was there, and I had to spend my horse around to take a better look at it. And, you know, my sister and all of them, they had kept riding, like I said, and, you know, when I said, hey, did you see? I got that out of my mouth, and then I spun around, and I realized that they had kept going the same thing, they were off in their own little world, like, you know, everything's just behind us dandy, nothing, nothing major is going on here. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:33:45 You know, still hoping one of them might have said something as soon as I said, did you see that jump the road down there? And they were all, what? What's my sister? Because she's kind of a loud mouth. And she's like, that was just a deer. I'm like, no. No, you're not going to try to push all that stuff on me. You know, I'd sooner believe it was a man that jumped across the road down there, you know, than a deer.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But yeah, man, it just cleared that. And it was about two feet near the whole way across. and I was just really blown away, you know, that it, because, I mean, wow, it was a pretty, they'd have to be some kind of Olympic gold medalist or something, you know, to do something like that. And then to do it with bare feet in the grass and gravel everywhere, you know, uh-uh. Yeah, I'm just not buying the whole person in a big person in a costume thing either. But they would have had to know, we had a good plan and all this, you know, and when to see us, get us in the right spot, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:43 yeah no i mean i don't know honesty i mean somebody in the cost i mean how many times can we use that excuse you know like oh somebody in a costume really i mean just somebody's in a costume waiting for somebody to come through on a horse just to jump out and try tricking them it's just ridiculous plus you're in texas i mean i can't imagine it's it's very you know comfortably cool down there and to be in a costume out in the heat and stuff just give me a break i'm not buying it you know what I mean. This costume would have been, had to been made by, I don't know. Actually, you know, I know it wasn't a costume.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I'm just going to throw this in there. It would have been more of somebody meticulously super gluing strands of hair all over a person's body because there is no way you would ever see that kind of definition through a costume. You know, something would be wrinkling up somewhere or something. But you could see every, every muscle. I mean, just... Stuff you only see in like CGI films or stuff or, you know, doctored up movies that, you know, you can see every muscle in an animal or a person.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I mean, everything, man. There was no getting around it. But yeah, he struck me. I'm going to say, well, I'm pretty sure he, but, yeah, he seemed to be. But, you know, about in his 20s, but I've heard, I've listened to a couple of shows that usually there's a lot younger ones kind of look like that, even though they're much younger than what, you know, they would appear to be, you know. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Like I said, I was 29 at the time. I'm 47 now. I was a little bit older than 29. I'm sorry. That's probably more like 33 or something like that. Okay. And you estimated the age of this thing in its 20s, right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. So, like, you know, I've never seen a Bigfoot. And what makes you feel like it was in its 20s? Like, because, I mean, I think, you know, when you see a Bigfoot, you know, foot. I'm like, uh, judging, judging, judging the age of it for me would be like trying to judge the age of a tree, you know what I mean? Right. Right. I understand all that. The thing that got me really thinking about it was several different things. A, the footprints were too nice and neat. There was no big stars or deformity in the footprint. I mean, you could see every ridge line
Starting point is 00:36:58 in the toes and the heel at the whole foot in that track in the sand there. I mean, The sand was still kind of wet from, I don't know when, but whatever it did, it just, it's like it, picked his foot up and spread it back down and there was no pulling in or pulling out of the footprint or anything. And you could see all kind of details in the footprint because I, that kind of stuck with me there for a few minutes before we started the ride there. And you could see every little detail of the foot in that footprint. There was no scars. And like I said, this didn't, I didn't think about this to well after the whole event, but there was, there was no scars or anything in the footprint.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And then when I saw it, this thing didn't have matted hair. There was no, there was no obvious scars or old, old looking skin or hair. You know, there was no gray whatsoever in this thing. It was all uniform in color, uniform in length, no matting, no scars on its body from what I've seen, or none of that stuff that you would expect from an older person, you know, over time and just especially being out of the woods over time and the years that, you know, you would accumulate stars, the stars and thinning hair and, you know, all that sort of stuff. And so I thought about it for a while and, you know, it just had to be, it had to be a younger adult male. There's
Starting point is 00:38:21 no way it was 40, 50 years old, you know, 30 years old. I wouldn't even put his age over 30, honestly. And I just got that feeling, you know, that it was a younger guy and, and he just wanted to, you know, I don't know if, like, he thought he had us. He was that well out of sight of us, you know, or what, but he just looked. I could see it. I could see his eye, or his bright eye anyway. He had his eyes. His head was straight, but he was looking dead at me.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And his eyes were kind of the colored area. I don't know what he'd call it. It was a lot bigger, it seems, than a person's eye. And the eyes were kind of a, they were kind of a brownish red. said, look to them. And they were just wide open as can be like, oh, crap, I was busted. You know, like, he was, he was either in trouble or going to get in trouble because he was fun.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Just something like that, like, hand in the 50-dard moment that, you know. Yeah, and it's funny because you said that, you know, he's looking right at you. This whole time, I'm listening to your story, and I'm thinking of a side profile, maybe because you said the way he ran, you saw the right leg. but I'm thinking that it's jumping across and it's just, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:35 8.A to point A to point B, but it actually turns its head and looks at you so it knows that you're there. It didn't look. It didn't look at me. It didn't turn his head. His head was straight, but his eyes, that's why I could have said, I've seen the right side.
Starting point is 00:39:49 His eyes were cocked, hardest can be looking out of the corner of his eye at me. Yeah, yeah. I can only see the one eye. I couldn't see the other one. And it was, it was wide open, man. And biggest can be like, oh, crap, here in the headlight, hand in the cookie jar. You know, he was busted right then and there.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And he just had that look in his eyes and, you know, the way his mouth was open, it was just like that sudden surprise that you just busted somebody doing something. And you know that that look they get of they're just like frozen place and, you know, their mouth's all agape and their eyes are wide. You know what I mean? That's just the way it was, man. Yeah, I wish I would have seen it a full body. But like I said, man, it was like a 2D image, man.
Starting point is 00:40:36 There was a there was a tree line on each side. The road was going down the center. And this thing was just hanging right over the road there for a split second right in front of me. And if I would have had a camera, it would have been a perfect picture, man. It couldn't have gotten no better. But yeah, man, all I've seen was pretty much the right side. His hands were splayed open. and the why
Starting point is 00:40:58 I cued in on the hair hanging off the arms the way I did I don't know man is that was just the thing that's that that's just been stuck with me
Starting point is 00:41:08 this whole time you know I've seen the whole thing but the thing that got me the most was just the way his hair was hanging off his arm on his right arm
Starting point is 00:41:17 you know how long roughly was the hair ah man it was I don't know probably four five six six it no it was nothing long and six inches. Nothing shorter than four inches.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah, it was four to six inches. And it was all uniform, even on its head. The hair didn't grow longer than the rest of the body or anything. It was all uniformly, and there was no, no, no, no bear spots, no war-down spot, you know, no, no thinning spots, none of that stuff on it. That's another thing that made me think after I got this thinking about it, that, you know, he was a younger, He was a younger, he was a younger cat, man. He wasn't no, you know, plus the way he was, he was all ripped and cut and stuff. It wasn't like, you know, like a, I don't know, like maybe an adult one where you would see, you know, they'd have a, maybe have a little bit of excess around their waist or, you know, something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:15 This was all, this was all muscle, man. There was no mistake in it whatsoever. I got you. Yeah, it's interesting because, you know, in the northeast, or not the northeast, uh, the northwest. you know, Pacific Northwest, you know, they're known to be these really big creatures. Down in your neck of the woods, from what I've heard, heard, they're described a lot of the times like what you just described, like a marathon run. It was like he was cut, he was ripped, but he wasn't like gigantic.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And I always wonder if that has something to do with the environment that they're in down there and things like that. But it's definitely an interesting encounter of a story that you have there, man. before we get into the more demonic things that are happening in your life right now, or at least as of recently, just give us an instance here because I know you mentioned it earlier. You said that after this encounter, looking back, you started thinking about some things that you've experienced
Starting point is 00:43:10 that, you know, makes you think more along the lines of Bigfoot activity. What do you mean by that? Well, I don't know how, there's been several instances over my life. Okay, I'm going to give you a time span here, and I'm just telling you this because it lets you know the time span that all this stuff had taken place over, taken place in my life to give you an idea of how much time I've been out of the woods. Okay. When I was about 14, my parents had bought some property on Lake Livingston. We didn't have a house there or anything. All we had was was a little camper and a tent, and we'd make a weekend thing of it, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And that's about the time I really became in love with just being in the woods, man. It was like my serenity down in the moment whenever I could just step foot in the woods and just everything else just felt good away. And I was happy. So from about 14 up until, oh, wow. Well, up until now, I still love, I don't say, I can't say, I love being in the woods. I haven't really loved being in the woods up until, you know, I saw that creature jump across the road. But up until then, so from 14, that was about 33, 34 years old. And I've had several things that happened.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Let's see. This was when I was about, I don't know, 17 or 18. I was younger than that. I was about 15 or 16, I think. I could give you a whole long story of how it came to be, but short story is I used to go hunting with some friends of mine, and he'd take me to his place because our dad's worked together, and he had his son and me and his twin would hang out and he lived out on a stick and we would go out and whenever I came over man it was grabbing guns and hitting the woods looking for anything hogs, squirrel, duck, you know, whatever was legal at the time.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And we were out one day and we had gotten to a point where we were out on our hands and knees crawling through the stick stuff. and then we came upon this area it was a perfectly round shape there was one tree in the middle and everything had been stripped off of it it was basically a pole sticking up in this round it looked like a pit
Starting point is 00:45:28 if you looked at it from the top you think a pit and there was about three inches of nothing but leaves and pine needles covering it and there was this one pole and you know the feeling I even at that age the feeling I had gotten it feels like this was a nursery or something you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:45 And it was just a weird thing. I mean, I've seen what pigs do and everything else in the woods. They tear up everything and they'll, you know, their rest of the places are going to be wall in the spots and, you know, ridded around and stuff. You're not going to get this kind of activity with wild pig in the wood. And it was just, it had a very weird feel to it. It felt like it was like some kind of nursery.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And I could actually see, you know, thinking about it after having my experience that, you know, that place was. was kind of like where maybe adult females with children would hang out during the day or something.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And, you know, when we'd crawled upon, when we got to it on our hands and knees, there was nothing there. I mean, you didn't see anything.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And, you know, there was, there was in a snowball, well, I was going to say something else, but there was no way you were thinking big foot, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:35 and we're just like, wow, this is really weird. And there was a couple other times when I go there that some really weird things that happened And I just couldn't, you could claim it was one thing, but
Starting point is 00:46:47 Calvin Smith just says, you know, no, that ain't, that ain't it. One time we heard, I don't know how much of these experiences you want to hear about. I mean, stop me whatever. Yeah, no, I was just going to say that. That's kind of like what I was just looking for, like the environment and stuff of, you know, because, I mean, here's the thing. You see a big foot, and all of a sudden you start running through everything that you've ever experienced out in the woods and you start questioning things. And that's what I was trying to see
Starting point is 00:47:17 what you meant because, you know, I've never seen a Bigfoot. But, you know, doing what I do and hearing so many encounter stories, there are times that I look back through my childhood where I spent a lot of time out in the woods and a lot of time, actually, to be honest with you, by myself. And I remember walking into the woods and getting this creeped out feeling when I would enter into the woods. And I never felt like that. I should say, I didn't feel like that all the time. But there were definitely times that I would walk into the woods that I was in all the time. It's not like this is a new area.
Starting point is 00:47:51 This is like consistently similar areas. And I would get creeped out. I would always feel like something was watching me. And so as an adult doing the things that I do now, I look back at those situations and you hear people say they got this creepy feeling like somebody who's watching them, things like that. And you just wonder, was that something or not? Probably not. But, you know, it just makes you review. everything that you experienced throughout your entire life.
Starting point is 00:48:17 And that's kind of what I was looking for. Yeah, yeah. It's like this one experience plugged in a lot of cords without any power all and once in my life. Like prior to my experience, probably, I think it was a weekend before, I know I shouldn't have been out there doing it, but man, I love to hunt. And, you know, I had a 30-30 in my hand. I went back there and sat on the edge of this guy's property where our,
Starting point is 00:48:43 friend of ours, Tommy. And I wasn't there for deer. I was waiting, I was hoping to catch a hog because I tell you, out of all the things I've ever hunted, hog or without a dog, you can almost forget seeing hogs in the wild. And the only one time I did see him, it was by sheer circumstance. But anyway, I was sitting out there, I got 30, 30 in my ham, sitting up against the tree, watching a little cut-down area that went off for about, I don't know, 100 yards or so. and I was waiting to see if maybe a pig or something would cross that area and you
Starting point is 00:49:18 can afford me a shot. So I'm sitting there and it's in the evening and that's when everything should start coming a light. Well, not everything. Frogs, crickets, other little things start coming alive. And I'm sitting there and it's dead silent, man. And after about five minutes sitting there, I just all of a sudden I got this feeling like, man something i mean i got a gun in my hand and something had creaked me out to the point where i had
Starting point is 00:49:46 to get up and see that area i just couldn't i couldn't sit there and i don't know where it came from man it was just this gut my i don't know this gut feeling said you're in you know this is doom you better move you know get out of there and i did i got out of there man and you know that i was i wondered about that for the longest time and then you know i saw my had my fighting there and i'm like, okay, okay, I can see where that feeling probably came from now. Yeah, absolutely. I think it had been around because the horse would go crazy in their pen at night, you know. The cow would go crazy in their, and it's 10 at night.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And there's other things like coyote howling that I've listened, that I've heard at my sister's place and I now call in the question. But there was several instances where, you know, everything started making a little bit more sense. after I had my sliding. And then again, like I said, man, I questioned it initially by asking, did you all see that? And I think I even told my mom and dad that I'd seen what I've seen
Starting point is 00:50:50 and, but nobody had believed me. And my dad and my mom, they know, if I see something in the woods, you know, they know how the kind of person I am, that I'd love being in the woods. So they know I wouldn't be mistaken
Starting point is 00:51:06 anything or anything pretty much. And, yeah, I don't know where I was going with that. But anyway. It's fine. Yeah, I kind of lost it there. Yeah, well, why don't you kind of walk us into what's been happening recently in your life? Because part of your message to me was that you're having some experiences with demonic activity more recent within the last couple months and stuff. So, you know, tell us what you've been experiencing.
Starting point is 00:51:36 And also, I hopefully. you covered in your story, but I'm really interested in hearing what makes you think that did something happen where it stirred up this kind of activity, or don't you know? That's what I've
Starting point is 00:51:52 been wondering, man. Okay, what clued me in up to it, after I listened to your story about the the Titanic worshipper luring in your house, and then after that, things kind of started
Starting point is 00:52:08 taking a real downturn on you. You know, how, you know, just everything started to be like, well, the way you explained it and the way I gathered it was everything was feeling like instead of looking you up, it was dragging you down, you know. Yeah. And so I kind of clued in on the there because, man, I tell you, I couldn't pick something up or set something down without it falling over. I would get these, every once in a while I get this feeling like I'm not alone in my own
Starting point is 00:52:37 bedroom. And for a while then I was sleeping by myself. My wife didn't like the snoring. And, you know, so she would hide off to another little bedroom or sleep on the couch and the living room. So it was for a long time there. It was me and my bed by myself. And I got a king-sized bed. And I'm going to give you the layout just because this would be important there in a second.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I got a king-sized bed. On my wife's side, there's a tan bed and a big dresser, okay? That runs the length of the bed there. And there's probably about three feet from between the gun. Mr. and the panning bed and the edge of our bed, okay? There's just enough to get over there and, you know, get dressed comfortably and then leave. And then on my side, I got a little bit more room because I've got a gun safe on my side. And I have an office, an office chair that kicks back.
Starting point is 00:53:27 It's not a recliner. It's an office chair that leans back and everything. I got that on my side because sometimes I just like sitting in there kicking back and watch TV. And I don't want to be sitting on the bed for whatever reason. Okay, so getting into this now. I've been feeling that way for a while. Like, you know, if one more thing goes wrong, I don't know what I'm going to do because, like I said, man,
Starting point is 00:53:50 I would set something up and it would fall over. I'd put something down and it would fall over. I get these feelings of like something is not really stalking me, but kind of keyed in on me really intensely. Every once in a while I'd wake up. Man, I'd be having bad dreams every night. it seemed like. I'd wake up in between dreams and finally kick the feeling and then I fall back to sleep
Starting point is 00:54:15 and I don't know, a couple hours later I'd be having another bed. Well, this happened one night. I was lying, I was found asleep. I was, I don't know, two or three in the morning. I was laying on my left side and that would have me facing my wife's tanning bed, her side of the bed and stuff. And I was having a horrible dream. and then I woke up from the dream
Starting point is 00:54:40 and I woke up from the dream and I had my eyes open a little bit and I never knew what darker than the dark meant until that night but I seen it was a little short-looking thing I could see what's from waist up
Starting point is 00:54:58 and it was really weird it had like a its head was kind of like triangular with the longer side being towards from what I knew now know it was the snout or the nose or whatever you want to call it. And I had two little things coming off the top of his head. And its arms weren't all the way down, but they were like straight out in front of it.
Starting point is 00:55:20 And there was no hand. It looked, you know, after I finally realized, and it took me a while. Actually, I spent all day wondering, what the hell was that? But I saw this shadow thingy, and it was darker than the dark. And it had like an aura around it. And I'm not going to see his oil was light. but you could definitely tell there was something around it, outlining it.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And then the center was just really dark, and it didn't have a walking motion. It kind of glided from the head of the bed on my wife's side, down when it got to about the end of the tanning bed, it dissipated. It went away. And then for the whole day, man, I was like, what in the world? Shape was that? Because I knew I'd seen what I'd seen,
Starting point is 00:56:00 because I was having a nightmare about werewolves, like, previously to right before, and I woke. and I woke up my open my eyes and just there it was man and there was no hands it looked like a clothing hook you know bang sticking out is this front legs and then you know the clothing hooked what a go tab like like uh hoops or they got clothing feet or anyway that's what it was and i didn't realize this still later on the day and then i finally saw it oh yeah i know sorry let me back up a second here. Okay. There was, you were asking me about what brought this thing in or what might have brought it in.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Okay. About two years ago, maybe, I don't know. Yeah, it had to be about two years ago. I go in the front living room and, of course, my three, I got, I got four children and the two youngest one, I don't know if you ever heard of this game, but if you do, you ever hear it, but avoid it like the flag, man. Goat Simulator. No, I never heard of it. You never heard of it? Trust me. Google it or something.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I was watching a play, and I wasn't thinking anything about any. I didn't have no foresight of, oh, this is a demonic game or anything. They were playing, and I'm watching the goat kill people and stuff, and it was like, the game, well, I'll tell you what I saw first. I'm watching a play, and then they got to this little rocky lake that was. kind of dark. And right there in the, in the weeds, on the other side of the weeds and stuff, there was a big satanic red circle there, the, you know, the satanic star, I don't know what you call that thing, but it's the star in the circle around it. The pentagram. The pentagram. Yeah. Yeah, it was big and red, man, just right there. And in that moment, I was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:57:55 that's it. This game is done. You aren't playing it no more. I told my wife, that was it. No more was this game. And what she didn't tell me was, we didn't have the game. We'd actually bought it, purchased it on Xbox 360. And so the game's kind of just stuck there. And the other day, actually, I turned on my Xbox one. My son was playing in my bedroom. And I saw the game come up again. And I'm like, okay, you know, I try Googling how in the hell
Starting point is 00:58:25 I get rid of this game permanently. All I can do was the only I could find was to hide the game. So that's what I did. But anyway, this game's all about stack. price some people to paint. Wow. Even if it's just game for them.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah. So like I said, man, avoid it like the plague because it's kind of like putting your hands on a Ouija board and asking anything that's come talk to you.
Starting point is 00:58:47 You know what I mean? And so I called on to that and I don't know, man. If there was one defining thing that I think might have brought it invited or brought or something to the house, I would have to say that's it, man. Because shortly after that, man,
Starting point is 00:59:05 looking back that for almost a year, man, at least a year. Just everything was going south, man. Everything. And then it led me up to where I was in my story there about being this shadow, which I know now was a goat that was not, I don't think he was walking because I couldn't see the bottom half of him. He was just kind of gliding across there. And I don't know what you, I don't know if that's called a bathroom that or what. well a baffamette is uh more like a half human half goat entity has like a goat head with horns a lot of times it's depicted as a human body with breasts uh so that's what abhamet is okay i'm gonna i'm gonna there's two other parts of this story i didn't i didn't get to yet um so this happened over three nights or i think it was three nights anyway i thought about what that image was all day and it finally hit
Starting point is 01:00:04 me that that's what it was, gliding across there. I don't know if it was the following night or the next night, but everything kind of started ramping up after I seen the little, the darker than dark shadow figure there. What was, oh, I was coming
Starting point is 01:00:22 out of my bathroom, and I had just taken a shower. I was coming on my bathroom. I went to shut off the light to exit the bathroom, and my bathroom's right there about, I don't know, the door to my bathroom is probably about six feet away from the foot of the bed there. Okay. And I'm stepping out of my bathroom and I shut
Starting point is 01:00:42 eyes for a split second and then this, it was right there in my face, man. In my mind's eye, it was right there. There was goat. His horns were kind of curled around this time and both eyes were looking at me. And it looked like it come up and just like it was put his face right in mind. Kind of butted me with his horns and his mouth was wide open and I can see his eyes. glaring at me and stuff and it was a white as silver figure and all I seen was the head of this thing and it was like right there in my face yelling
Starting point is 01:01:14 at me or trying to scream at me for some really. I don't know. I don't know with at that point I started to wake up and realize but you know I haven't had got on my knees yet to say hey God help me out here.
Starting point is 01:01:30 So that happened and it was a really it was a shocker man. I was like where in this image? Where did this image coming from? You know, I'm just like, what in the world is going on? But I worked my way past that. And it was either the night after that or the next one. And you got to just say, man, I'm having, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:49 I'm just having horrible luck in life. I can't put something down or pick it up without me falling, without falling out, slipping out of my hand or being knocked over or anything, man. It's just everything was just seemed like really oppressive and just, you know, like it honestly after after it all got done with it had me to the point and I'm going to tell you the third instance before I was like hey God you know but I was in my car after the third time and I'm just like I broke down in tears man I couldn't deal with it anymore I'm just like I had there was like a presence in the car that just wanted me to you know wanted me to end it all on my you know
Starting point is 01:02:28 make me end it all and I was just like in tears and there was just darkness in the car and it was Like something was just, you know, right there. But anyway, the third thing that happened was I'm asleep again. On my bed. And this time I'm facing, I'm laying on my right side. Yeah. So I'm facing towards where my chair is normally at. Well, it was always that.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And again, I had woken up from a bad dream. And I opened my eyes. And this is the hardest one right here. I open my eyes and sitting in my chair. And for some reason, my room was much darker this time than any other time. And sitting in my chair, and I don't know, have you ever had a, I don't know if you've ever been around ghosts, but have you ever been around one that's kind of looking at you, that one eye and he's just kind of locked in on you with that one eye? No, I have, no, I can't say I have, man.
Starting point is 01:03:28 It's creepy whenever they just kind of, instead of cocking his head up, it was cocking his head down. But it's just like that. You're going to get around a goat and you're on one side and just watch. Oh, you said goat. One eye. Yeah, go. Oh, I think you say ghost. No, no, a goat.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I got you. Yeah, I know what you mean. My mother-in-law used to own goats. Yes, I know what you mean. Yeah. So you know how they look at you with that one eye. And then it seems like they got a grimace on the face. Well, this is what was staring at me sitting in my chair.
Starting point is 01:03:58 looking about two feet away from me. And it was, it had a white face and then it had some kind of blue, I don't know. I don't, I hate to call it tribal because it was, it looked more like it was a rectangular type shape than any tribal thing. But anyway, it had this blue splash on the one side there. And it was looking down at me and his head was kind of caught. His head was kind of cocked at, let's say, could see me with the one eye. And he was just, he was just beamed in on me, man.
Starting point is 01:04:28 and he had that little smirk on his face, like, that's it. You know, this is it. And I don't, I don't know what exactly, I don't know why that happened. I mean, there's other things too. And the whole thing about drugs being a doorway, believe me, it is. I was a, and I, the thing is, I didn't like do illegal drugs or anything, but I take stuff to help me sleep.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And, you know, I've been through the whole sleep paralysis thing. That's why I didn't even mention it. I know what sleep paralysis is. And I've experienced it before a long time ago. But I take stuff to help me sleep. And sometimes I don't even do the job because, like I said, mine, I get bad dreams. And then I'm instantly awake. And I know when I'm awake and when I'm asleep, and I promise you, sure, as I'm standing here, man, that that thing was just sitting in my chair looking at me like, you know, it's your ass now.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And after I saw that, man, I mean, I didn't really show no fear. I kind of opened my eyes, saw it. And I didn't want to believe it because the whole situation, me by myself in my room, pitch black, and I got this thing. And so I just closed my eyes and went back to sleep and hoped for the best. But the next day or the day after that, I was on my way home from work in my car. and it's just like this overpowering darkness that entered the car and it was like, you know, you got the gun right there. Just do it.
Starting point is 01:06:02 What are you? You know, just do it. Get it old with already. And I'm like, and that's what I broke down, man. I just broke down and it was like, God, hey, you know, help me out here. And the thing was, this happened like three times. And from that night on, up until here recently, which I need to start doing again, from that night on, man, I'm on my knees.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Instead of my Bible being way at the other end of my dresser beside, I've always headed on my bed beside me, not really beside me, but the other side of my nightstand, and I got a cross hanging over the bed, and, you know, I believe all that stuff. I move my Bible closer back to my hand, back to me, and I put a wooden cross on top of my Bible there, it was all in hands reach, and, you know, from that night on,
Starting point is 01:06:47 for the longest, well, I don't I say a long time, it's been on a few months, but, man, whenever just things don't feel right in the room, well, first of all, I always got out on my knees and prayed before I went to bed. And then I always had the cross in my hand there. And, you know, I started praying to God and was like, hey, you know, this is bigger than me. Can you help me out here?
Starting point is 01:07:07 And, you know, things have, you know, gotten back to normal. And I don't know if talking about it is a good thing or not. So I was kind of hesitant on, you know, I was thinking today, man, should I, you know, should I do this or not? You know, tell you about this stuff because, you know, I don't want this stuff coming back, you know, you know what I mean? Yeah, I understand. And, you know, I'm not like, you know, I know it all with any of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:34 But I do find that these types of things have really as much power as you want to give it as as you allow it. Like, I mean, obviously, you don't want that there. It came in. It infiltrated your life. But, I mean, I don't think. personally. I don't think talking about it is so dangerous. Now, I've had several people tell me that when they talk about things seem to act up and stuff. But, you know, for the most part, I haven't really had that
Starting point is 01:08:07 experience. And the fact that you are, you know, pursuing God through as a solution here, I think that's a big plus for you. I mean, that's my own personal theological convictions coming through and stuff. But I think that's a big help there for you. But with this experience that you had, man, one of the things you said early on, and it caught my ear was that you said when you were describing the first experience, at some point you said snout. And then right after that, you mentioned about how you were having werewolf nightmares. Do you think the two are correlated? No, I think before I seen the, okay, I didn't catch those. I don't know. know what you said before werewolves, but if I heard you're right, I think, I think you might
Starting point is 01:08:55 have it backwards. I was having this wherewolf dream and then I woke up and called this thing, you know, kind of exiting doors the door between the bed and the, in the tanning bed there. And you described it, though, as having a snout, didn't you? Well, it was kind of weird, okay? You can make out the front, the front arm, just kind of, kind of out in front of it, kind of half-heartedly, like it couldn't put it all the way down to its side for some reason, and you could see that it didn't have hands. It had the, it had the goat foot or hoof or cloven's foot or whatever you want to call it. Okay. And the head was more like, okay, you pick a triangle and you make one side longer than the
Starting point is 01:09:34 other and don't make it like so pointy at the top side where it's longer. And then you turn it on its side and then you put, you put two things coming out from the back of its head there. And that's basically what I saw. And that's why I was like so hard. I'm like, what's the Oh, did I see? It didn't make sense, man. A triangular type head, you know, with two things sticking out of top. And, you know, the body, of course, I could see it. It was, like I said, man, I never knew what black, darker than the dark meant until that night.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And this was all just recently, Matt. I think it was probably, what, three, four, no, it wasn't four months. Three months ago, something like that when I first contacted you about this stuff. And it was that, all this stuff had recently happened. and not probably two or three weeks afterwards when I'd like start getting in touch with God again and saying, hey, I can't do this. I need your help here.
Starting point is 01:10:27 You know, please let your presence still this room. Whatever it has to happen, get this stuff out of my life. That's what I want. And so, yeah, man, that's why it took me so long to realize all that day and then finally it clicked to me what it was. You know, it was an upright. I don't know what the bottom half looked like. And it wasn't really that big.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I mean, it was probably four feet tall, maybe. And I could see it was from, like, it's midways down. I didn't know what the legs looked like, or even if it had legs, because it looked like it was gliding. It didn't look like it was walking. It looked like it was gliding. And his front legs were, like, straight out in front. Like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Then it had this triangular looking head that really didn't match a goat head. in a sense, you know, but that's what it was, man. And then I had, I'll tell you about the dream. And why this is relevant, I don't know, but I was having a dream, and I remember the dream vividly because of what I saw before I woke up or after I woke up. I was sitting there staring at a werewolf, or no, it was actually just a plain wolf, okay? And it looked like a wolf that was standing up on its leg looking at me. Okay?
Starting point is 01:11:52 And then a split second after it started, well, a split second, I don't know how long he was, but that's what it's felt like. It started to transform it to a more demonic version of his self. You know, the muscle started getting bigger. You know, the hair started getting a little bit different. It started having a more sinister look on his face. You know, the teeth started coming out and everything. And then I woke up a split second later.
Starting point is 01:12:14 and then when I woke up that's what I was looking at the not the goat not the werewolf but this but now I can I consider a goat man that's all it could have been you know
Starting point is 01:12:26 there's and then it was verified the two following encounters and the third one is the one that really drew at home when I was walking out of my bathroom and this thing and I closed my eyes there for a second kind of like I was blinking regularly
Starting point is 01:12:43 and it was just And it was like in my face. It looked like it had ran up and got my face and screaming at me. You know, there was no sound, obviously, because this was all in my mind's eye, because my eyes are closed. And I'm just like, whoa, it kind of caught me out of guard there. I didn't really step back, but I know I stopped and it was like moved my head back a little bit because it looked like it just came running up from out of black and just right there.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And in both eyes where it was like it was head to head with his forehead. and both eyes are glaring at me. The nostrils were flared, and his mouth was wide open, and you could tell he was screaming. I don't know what he was screaming, but you could tell he was screaming at me. Like, I don't know if he'd get to scare me. I'm assuming that's what it was, because I guess the more scared you get, the more from what I hear,
Starting point is 01:13:30 the more power they get. The more scared you are, the more it feeds them. So I'm assuming that's what it was, and I just was like, wow, where in the world did that come from? I never had that happened in my life, you know? And so, I mean, I, and then, you know, I started hearing, I don't know if it's because I started listening to more and more shows after I heard yours. But, you know, it seems like bathamette's being popped up everywhere, you know. I haven't looked up a picture of a bathroom at after all this.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And the shadow thingy I saw, the darker than dark shadow thing, that looked like, except for it didn't have hands. But the way the heads, the horns just come straight up out of the head. that's what, you know, it reminded me of. But whenever the thing that confronted me as I was walking out of my bathroom, my eyes were shut, that one, its horns had curled over, actually. And so there was a little difference there. And then the one that was in the chair looking at, I mean, man, if I would have got up, I'm, I could, it's like I could have punched it in the face if I wanted to.
Starting point is 01:14:35 But I was just like, oh, my God, I'm awake. My sleep medicine's kind of, kind of working on me here. I'm just going to go back to sleep and hope I didn't see what I just saw. But it was there, man. I promise it was there. If I wanted to, I could have probably kicked on the light or jumped out of bed and put a swing at it and something would have connected. That's how real it was.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And I was just like, in the next day, I'm like, man, where are this coming from? And, you know, the funny thing is, it's like it singled me out. I don't know if it's because I cut my kids off from the game or my daughter. she's in the Harry Potter, Harry Pottercraft, she's a little older, and there's a couple other things. And my wife would bring home people's furniture, and she brought home a mirror, and it's been sitting in our garage forever. And I noticed the back of the mirror. It looks like one of the screws had been taken out. Actually, it was just taken out a little bit. And I never did open the mirror, but after that night, are you there? Yeah, I'm here.
Starting point is 01:15:35 After that night, after that final night, I'm like, look, get that mirror out of the time. house. I don't want it anymore here because it was just a real creepy mirror to be around. Even though stayed in the garage between two refrigerators, I was just like, get it out of the house and don't be bringing home. Nobody's used crap anymore. So I don't know where this thing. I don't know where this thing come from, but, you know, if it wasn't my daughter doing, my daughter, my oldest daughter, at the time she was 17. So, I mean, she pretty much, you know, does, did her own thing. And she was that Harry Potter and all this other stuff. And, of course,
Starting point is 01:16:14 that doesn't have game. And then my wife bringing home people's crap and the one, and the mirrors. For some reason, man, me and me, I just, I don't like mirrors at all. I do not like them whatsoever. I will not stand in a room with a mirror and the lights off.
Starting point is 01:16:29 I want to even leave my bathroom door open with the mirror. Because there's a mirror in there. I shut the bathroom door. But I don't know, I don't know what got it into the house, man, or what allowed it to think it had some kind of authority to be that brave, to be that bold to sit there in my chair and watch me while I'm sleeping, you know? And then knowing it's fixing it's fixing to wake me up for whatever reason,
Starting point is 01:16:54 or however it does it, and I open my eyes and there it is, man, just sitting there looking at me. And I'm just like, what in the world is going on? And then, like, a few nights later, I was on my home. when I got in the whole car thing and like I felt like I was being oppressed and crushed and the darkness was around me and I couldn't shake it
Starting point is 01:17:17 no matter what and you know I'm not I'm not the most religious guy in the world but I do believe in Christ and what he did and all that and without a doubt I believe that and so I just turn it out again and I'm just like you know
Starting point is 01:17:33 help me out because there's been several things in my life that I don't want to say this, that I know God turned it into his glory. My pain became his glory, if you know what I mean. Sure. And there's been several things. I mean, I had been clinically dead once when I was a child.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I've been dropped in a swimming pool almost ground, and I could get into a story. That's the story in itself. Even though it was a brief story, it's still a story in itself. just all kind of things in my life, man, that, you know, that's happened to me. And I'm just, you know, I'm trying to figure out what's going on. And I needed God again and, you know, I haven't had no problem since then. I don't get these, I don't get these weird thoughts in my head anymore. I don't get these weird images in my head anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Or it's just everything cleared up, you know, whenever I called upon the Lord that night when I, in the car. And then, you know, I got home. And I put the Bible right now. I started reading the Bible game. You know, I just didn't put it there. I did because of the power. It made me feel I had. And I put the cross there.
Starting point is 01:18:47 And there were several nights, man, where I held that cross in my hand. My wife wasn't sleeping back in the bedroom for whatever reason. And it was just me. And I would, you know, I'd start to feel, you know, like, man, there's a presence here again. So I'd grab the cross. And, of course, I always got my gun under my pillow now.
Starting point is 01:19:04 You know, I thought that it's going to do any good. But I guarantee you if my gun would have been under the until that night, and I guarantee I could have pulled a bullet in the thing. I don't know if it would have done any good, but it was that real, man. I could have shot the thing. Well, you know, it's funny that you say that because, you know, I referenced this before on the show over on Sasquatch Chronicles. West did a show where this guy described killing this thing, and what he described
Starting point is 01:19:28 was a Baphomet. Like, he straight up described to Baphomet, and then when he went back, it was gone. And so it makes you wonder, like, like, because, I mean, up to this, up to that point, I'm thinking Baphimet demonic entity, things like that, can't be shot, all that. And then that happens. And it makes you wonder, okay, that's a curveball. What is going on here, you know? So it's definitely something where you, when you say that it seems so real, it seemed physical like you could hit it upside the head with the bat or something like that, it makes sense. I've been hearing more and more different stories like that. And like you said earlier, it does seem like Baphomet is starting to pop. up more and more throughout people's stories online. You see it popping up in articles. I see it in pop
Starting point is 01:20:15 culture all the time. Now, in fact, just today, just today, I was driving home from work and I was behind an SUV. They had a round sticker on the back of their windshield or the back window of their SUV. And it was a, it was a Baphomet. It was a Baphomet sticker on the back of their SUV. And I've seen these stickers all over this area. They, this. The sticker is for a Taekwondo place where I guess they train and stuff like that and they teach people how to do Taekwondo. But their logo is a Baphomet. And I've seen this several times. And I finally was in a position where I see it and I was at a red light where I could actually take a picture of it.
Starting point is 01:20:55 And I took a picture of it. I'll post it online maybe, you know, in the show notes here and stuff. But it's definitely something that's popping up more and more. It got me thinking how I just see it popping up more and more. And then I see it on my Xbox one again after I said get rid of that game. And since we paid for it, we downloaded it, you know, I tried looking for a way to delete it on my Xbox one. I couldn't find it. All I could do was all I found was a window that said hide game.
Starting point is 01:21:22 So that's what I did. But it just seemed like, I don't know, man, is, and I really don't want to get into the end-times thing. It just feels like, God's like, hey, this is what's going down. Make up your mind. You know what I mean? That's what it feels like to me. It just feels like, you know, God's like, hey, I ain't going to call too many more times. If this is what it takes for you to open your eyes, hey, this is what's going to happen to you.
Starting point is 01:21:53 And I don't know if that's the case. It's just a feeling. I'm not saying there's any concrete proof in any of that stuff. But, you know, over my life, God has many things, many things. that my pain, he turned my pain into his glory and, you know, even now I still like, hey, God thinks a lot, you know, I know that time was really bad, but hey, you know what, this is what I got out of it. And eventually, you know, he turned my pain and the praise to him and how he does it. I don't know, but he does. Sure. There's, there's many testimonies like that, where, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:31 God takes a bad situation, turns it for good. You know, I'm not, like I said earlier, I'm not an expert on any of this stuff. And I hear people's stories. I try to draw similarities from story to story. But, you know, I don't know. What I'm about to say is not 100% certain. But it does make sense in my mind that that game, if that game was as bad as you're saying, it seems like that would be something that would invite issues into your home.
Starting point is 01:23:05 And if you're the one to say to the family, cut it, we're done, you're not doing that no more. Maybe whatever was invited to a home would target you. You know, it just does make sense to me. It does. I don't know if it makes sense to anybody else. But for me, it makes sense. Yeah, it kind of makes sense to me too. I just wish I knew that was the cause.
Starting point is 01:23:25 You know, I want to find the root cause so I can pluck it out and get rid of as soon as possible. And I've taken steps and some of them might seem silly, but between the mirror that my wife had brought home not too long ago. Or actually, it's been a while. I've been sitting in there between two refrigerators for a year. Or the game, which I'm kind of getting that's the thing, that thing going on because that game, I'd never, I mean, I'd seen him play this game, but I'd never seen the cover of this game before. And then the other day, when my son turned it on and he logged on to his stuff so he could play, so he could play his. game on the Xbox one instead of the 360 out there, there
Starting point is 01:24:03 it was again. And this face, the goat's face, was right there in my face. It had the upturned little smirk on its face, and one of his eyes was kind of more visible than the other, and it was a white color, and I'm just like, oh my God, there it is. What in the world? You know,
Starting point is 01:24:19 I'm just like, no, this ain't happening again. There's no way it's happening again. And I tell you, man, you should Google that game. I looked it up, as a matter of fact, All I got is my iPhone right now. My computer took a dump on me. I had looked it up and the game is actually,
Starting point is 01:24:37 I'm not sure. I know I read who marketed it, but I couldn't remember it. But the game is actually about your character, which you're the goat and sacrificing human people to sing. And then if you search around on the game, if you actually ever play the game and you look long enough, I guarantee you that you'll find that big red pinagram right there. it's off in the woods kind of next to a cliff where you know how games put a clip or something right there and you can't go no further and you got to get to that point and then it's right there it was playing the day man and i saw it i'm like no that's it no more i told my wife right they were all sitting there i'm like that's it turn the game off you're not playing it anymore i don't care what it's about and my kids just thought it was funny like a goat instead of killing people with it they take the goat and make it do some crazy stuff and then you get this real the actual death that
Starting point is 01:25:29 that the goat, you know, takes place. I mean, he's flying 100 feet through the air and tossing and turning and all kind of crazy stuff. Okay. But, and I'm thinking, okay, funny, funny games, whatever. Actually, you know, when I first saw him playing, I saw the goat run through the street. I'm like, you know what? For some reason, that's really creepy.
Starting point is 01:25:47 But I never gave it a second thought after that until it was a couple days later. I saw him all playing it in the front living room. I'm like, okay. And I'm like, okay. I knew this game was creepy. about something. I didn't know what, but now I know that's it, no more. And yeah, if you Google it, man, you'll see it.
Starting point is 01:26:05 And the last thing, I don't know how much long do you want to give them here, but the last really, the thing that is kind of comical, I guess, in a way, or maybe it was just dead set on me. I don't know. I have three massive. Two of them are males that still
Starting point is 01:26:21 got their sacks hanging, and both of them are pushing 200 pounds each. And one of them sleeps on the bed with me. Oh, he did before my wife started sleeping back in the bed. I don't know which I like better, honestly, but I'm kidding. And, you know, the dogs never clued into it. I don't, I'm just like, and that's one of the comforts I've had is sleeping in my bed, knowing there's a 200-pound dog at my feet right there, you know?
Starting point is 01:26:47 I'm thinking, hey, you know, when all this is going on and I'm like having these experiences before they finally came to asking God to step up for me or help me out here, I'm like, you know, what's up with you dogs? Come on, I feel stuff in this room. You know, what? We're just, why aren't y'all killing me out? And none of them would put me in any of it, you know? You know, they would lay there and I'd see this stuff and the dog would be down on my feet soaring, you know?
Starting point is 01:27:13 I'm just like, got to be kidding me. What do I got you dogs for? You know, and that's, I find that comical, but it was, I'm still kind of upset at my dogs with that. But, you know, I thought it was a little weird that, you know, and you always hear the stories of how dolls, or even like my horse clued in on the creature there, you know, my dogs didn't clue on anything, clue in on anything. And it was physically in my room, you know, with a physical shape.
Starting point is 01:27:37 And it was, it was, it was funny. It was, it was really dark in my room. The last time I saw it was sitting in my chair and just locked in on me. Um, and I'm just like, and it was really weird. I mean, you could, I could see the, face. I could see the upturned lip. I could see the one eye locked in on me. And then I could see kind of the rest of his head. But the further back and the further down, I wanted to look. I thought I
Starting point is 01:28:06 even saw a hand or an arm. Not really a hand, I guess. Maybe an arm. Maybe it had a hand. It showed a hand this time. I don't know. But one of it was kind of on the arm of my chair there. And it was kind of kicked back looking at me. And but everything else is just so black and dark. And I don't know if it's because my eyes haven't adjusted or something. Because like I said, I had just woken up and trust me, I know I have experienced sleep paralysis and it was not that. I know I've been taking my medicine long enough that I know what's dream and what's not. What's when I'm awake and when I'm not? Because trust me, even my medicine right now doesn't feel like it helps me get any sleep.
Starting point is 01:28:42 So I'm, you know, I got rid of some really bad medicine I was taken. I'll tell you that much. Then I had neck surgery and I was on pain medication for, wow. wow, several years. And I had never experienced anything, you know, anything taking it. And then about two years ago, I think it was, or maybe a year ago, they switched me to something else. And even then, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 01:29:13 And then it just seemed like ever since that day, I called my kids out on that game. And, you know, I just, I don't know. everything started going downhill, man. I couldn't... The biggest, the most frustrating thing was I'd set something down and I'd turn around and it would fall. Anything I did.
Starting point is 01:29:37 And there's... I'd be carrying something in my hand and it would just slip out of my hand and it was a glass, it would shatter. Or make a big mess. Whatever it was, man. I'm just like, what in the world is going on? And I'm thinking dry hands.
Starting point is 01:29:51 So I, you know, start lotion and man, it just, it didn't stop, man. And it drove me up a wall, man. I know it sounds real minuscule about, hey, you know, you're dropping things or you set something down and it falls. I know it probably sounds minuscule and nothing, but to me, it was a frustrating thing. And it just got worse and worse and worse. Every time I set something down, it turned my back and it would fall.
Starting point is 01:30:18 And I have other stories about being haunted, too, that I don't know if you want to hear tonight, but definitely, and it evolved across a long time ago. But anyway, so yeah, man, that's some of my life story. I hope we got it all where you, it was somewhat manageable, readable, or whatever. Yeah, absolutely. Listen, Charles, I think what you have experienced in your home is something that, you know, a lot of people experienced throughout their life. I mean, I'm not saying everybody does, but it's definitely something that the more I'm doing this stuff, the more I realize that these things aren't as uncommon as people would like to think. And so just to, I don't know if this is going to make you feel better or not, but one of the
Starting point is 01:31:08 listeners commented, you know, because there's a chat room going, and he said that he knew about that game and it's a messed up game. So you're, you're not alone in that feeling of that game. you know, giving you the creeps or anything like that. So I definitely think that it's something that maybe you did the right thing, you know, by getting rid of it, getting it out of the house, telling people to stop playing with it. And hopefully things, you know, start turning up for you here in the future. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I said, that was, I don't know, it was probably close to a year ago that I saw,
Starting point is 01:31:45 maybe a little bit more that I saw him playing that game. So that's it. No more. I saw what I saw on the game, and I told my wife, she was sitting right there, and I looked, look, she looked up, and I said, that's it. They don't play this game anymore. And on the 360, I'm pretty sure it's probably a little bit easier to erase, but on my Xbox 1, man, I couldn't get rid of it. All I could do was hide it. I don't know what to do, man.
Starting point is 01:32:08 And it just seems like, come to think of it now, man, that everything started going bad at the same time that I was like, hey, no more of this game. I don't care what because I might not be, I might not walk around the Bible in my hand. I might not go to church like I should. I might not pray like I should. But, man, I just knew that, hey, just no more in the story. You're not doing it. I better not catch you playing it. And I don't know, maybe that was some, I'm hoping maybe that was a gateway.
Starting point is 01:32:46 and I can shut the door on this chapter and be done with it because, you know, just the physical or the physical, the mental stress between, and, you know, why is it that I keep coming back to the same thing of things falling whenever I set them down? Why? I don't understand. Why that make a big deal about that? Maybe it seems kind of ludicrous.
Starting point is 01:33:11 I don't know that that's a thing. But, you know, there's other things that, you know, I've had bad luck. with. I've never been a lucky person, but these past couple years, especially this last, 2017, just seemed like it was horrible, man. And it felt like some of, actually, some of it did carry over in 2018, you know, and I just, it finally got me to a point where I got, like I said, man, call on God. I couldn't do it. The whole idea of, you know, dropping things a lot, things falling over, uh, that's not an uncommon thing. I mean, I'm not saying that specifically, but it's just, it's a very common thing for people to notice that things are falling over.
Starting point is 01:33:53 And you just started noticing it happening more and more. You know, maybe you have like a, you know, boxes that were sitting against a wall for two weeks straight. And all of a sudden, they just all topple over or the little things, right? But once you start connecting the dots and you start seeing it happen more and more consistently, that's when you kind of raise an eyebrow to it. And then on top of that, right around that same time, having the experiences that you had, I can totally understand why you feel that way. Now, is it related? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:25 But I can understand why you feel like that personally. So it's definitely something going on there, man. And I just think that you trying to get rid of the game the best you could was a good move. So, you know, on that note, Charles, I appreciate you come. going on and sharing this story. And, you know, if you have more to share stuff, maybe we can have you come back for a patron's only show where people can call into
Starting point is 01:34:52 a show and ask you questions themselves and things like that, you know? Yeah, man, well, I hope it was that good for you. I mean, to me, it sounds kind of like, hmm, why would you want to talk to you in the first? Because I go on, man, sometimes I don't even make sense to myself. I'm sure it was hard for anybody who might be listening
Starting point is 01:35:10 or you to say, hey, man. This guy isn't making sense half the time, but, you know, that's That's the way I am. That's the way I talk. No, Charles, I'll tell you, man, like, you've been a delight to talk to. And there's been several times you would say something during the interview. And I had my mic muted it. And I would just start laughing because, like, when you talked about your dog's sack, I'm like, come on.
Starting point is 01:35:30 I was just rolling. So, no, it's been a pleasure, Charles. And I appreciate talking to you, man. All right, man. All right. Take care. See you. Well, that's the show, everybody.
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Starting point is 01:36:08 That would help me out a great deal as well. And I want to let you know that today's outro music is brought to you by a rap group called Destiny Lab. And the song is called Paranormal Species. I hope you enjoy it. Take care, stay safe, and remember the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. Bye. This is in the Chupacabra. Remind me. I just want to remind you. No, this is something huge. This is something that reminds me of the mothman stories of Point Pleasant and how the mop man has scared the living daylights out of it because when I'm in the dark, I wouldn't want two big red eyes staring at me from the window, tapping on the window. And then I look up and I see something harned over with big wings or a flying demon or something. I don't want that anywhere near me.
Starting point is 01:36:59 What are these creatures that so confound us from the moth man to the chupacabras, the big foot, there's some call a Sasquatch, legendary icons like monster mascots, the Loch Ness monster, the Jersey devil, creepy shadow people that'll make you tremble. species on every level when they're unleashed It's like transcendental We haven't even started with the alien question Not to mention the fact they meet expectations
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