The Confessionals - 881: Ancient Giants, The Book of Enoch and UFO Disclosure | L.A. Marzulli

Episode Date: July 21, 2026

What if the Bible has been explaining the UFO phenomenon all along? Tony Merkel welcomes L.A. Marzulli to discuss why he believes the Nephilim are central to understanding the growing fascination with UFOs and the supernatural. Drawing from decades of firsthand research, L.A. shares remarkable stories that have shaped his conclusions about hidden archaeological discoveries and their possible biblical significance. He also explains how Genesis 3:15 and the Book of Enoch influence his understanding of an ongoing spiritual battle that continues to unfold today. As governments increasingly acknowledge the UFO phenomenon, L.A. argues that Christians must be prepared to discern truth from deception. L.A.'s insights invite you to reconsider ancient mysteries through a biblical lens and examine why they may matter now more than ever.If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890📕 Pre-order Tony's Book: https://a.co/d/0bJS3SaVBecome a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comLA MarzulliWebsite | YouTubeSPONSORSGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyIVERMECTIN: twc.health/tonyVENICE AI: https://venice.ai/theconfessionalsRUMBLE WALLET: https://rumblewallet.onelink.me/bJsX/ConfessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media6726 Morganton RdP.O. Box #08Greenback, TN 37742SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jyorkofficialOutro Music:Tony Merkel - Delusion DayAvailable on Spotify

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They basically decapitated. Got places, got closer, got closer, got closer, when he got about 15 yards away from me, I raised that 12 days and I blow this head off. I feel something pulling at my leg, and I look over and there are two small, gray entities, pulling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed.

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Now, today we have L.A. Marzuli coming back to the studio. He returns to connect the dots between the Nephilim, the Seed War, UFO phenomenon, ancient giants, and the spiritual battle he believes has been unfolded. holding since Genesis. He shares firsthand accounts of alleged implant removals and why discoveries from Catalina Island, Lovelock Cave, and ancient earthworks point to what he says is a deliberately hidden history. Whether you agree with his conclusions or not, this conversation dies deep into biblical prophecy, archaeological mystery, and the question whether humanity is approaching a modern day repeat of the days of Noah. Let's get to L.A. Marzuli right now. All right, we're back in studio here

with L.A. Marzuli again. How are you? I'm doing great. Great to be here. And it's an honor, as always. Yeah. Well, listen, before you got here, first of all, I had interviewed Karen Wilkison in here today. Okay. And I discussed with her about this as well, how this all kind of came together so fast. I mean, I think it was just a few weeks ago, both I was talking to her and you text me saying, hey, I'm going to be in town. I'm just like, this is wild. Yeah. And so this is a fast turnaround. and Jack and I were talking about today, and this is your sixth time on the show for an episode. Is it really?

I couldn't believe it. I thought it was like four. Jack, are you sure? I think he counts the six. Okay, I'm not sure. Jack? He is part in Eflon, so he has six fingers. Don't put that on a place.

He just counts the fingers on the logo. There you go. One, two, three. But, yeah, so I mean, I was, like, stunned by that. And I think, I don't know if I've had a guess that's, been on more than you now. Well, thank you. That's wild.

It's an honor. I had no idea. Really cool. Yeah. Thank you. So you, I was trying to brainstorm, you know, some things that we were going to talk about. And Giants definitely came to mind.

But before I got to the Giants, I was trying to, like, think about all your, your world traveling and your expeditions and your research and the different things you've been involved in. It covers just everything. And does it all stem from your childhood when you had a UFO? counter or like, I mean, it's great. I feel like every great explorer has some kind of weird thing that happens in their childhood.

I did see a UFO at 12, but I was never interested in any of this, seriously. And I was in the new age. And I read, you know, von Donnickens' work and everybody else. And this is then the 60s, end of the 70s. And I was completely end of a new age. I would follow a guru and had vision quests. I was at Woodstock. I mean, I did all that stuff.

But I became a Christian when I was 30. And I was been a musician. I have been, are we going to edit that out, please? I've been up for like 14 hours, folks. I know, you're fresh off the plane. You're fresh off the plane. So no coffee either. So at 30, I became a Christian.

And I was a musician all my life chasing the rock and roll carrot. That's all I wanted to do. So when I became a Christian, all I wanted to do is make Christian music and get a Christian record deal, but it never happened. So I was a worship leader for like 25 years. So from 30 to 40, I get married, we have two children. And at 40, the Lord starts going, hey, you know, tap, tap, tap, tap. You know all that stuff you used to, well, let's go over here.

And he began to move me, right, if I had known, kicking and screaming, not really. But slowly he began to move me into what I'm doing now. The book that changed my life was Dr. I.D. E. Thomas's book, Do you make it? conspiracy. That book completely radicalized me in every way. Because that's all of a sudden, because for that period, that 10-year period from 30 to 40, I'm looking at Noah going, eh, my famous Old Testament God thing is still weird. Nobody knew anything about it. And once I got Dr. Thomas's book, that opened up the whole idea of a Nephilim of a seed war, Genesis 315. That's, that's the starting point. And I found out he lived in Studio City. And I lived in the Santa Monica Mountains. It's like an hour away.

So we met for lunch and we became, he's like my father's age. Okay. And he's passed away now. He died at the same age as my dad, 94. And we would meet like once a month. I would run things by him. And that led to the very first book, which was the novel, Nephlema Trufus here, pushed back to the whole UFO phenomenon.

That was the beginning. But there was never a thought about making documentary films or writing any more books. Yeah. And now there's 34 films and 16 books. Geez. Yeah, there's a whole corpus of work. And, you know, Richard Shaw taught me everything I know about filmmaking. Rick passed away a number of years ago, and Gilseman is my new business partner.

We did 10 films on the whole UFO phenomena. And I'm going to boast here, folks, but we're the only Christian ministry that has 10 films. Close and counters of the first, second, third, and fourth kind, abductions, catamilulations, crop circles. We went to Roswell. We found a piece of metal in the debris field. I showed it to you. Yeah.

The last, I still have it. It's in the other room. You don't leave home without it. Yeah. And, you know, two films on Roswell, finally, what is the truth? I mean, and we run the whole gamut. Now with all the UFO stuff coming out, that's, you know, here we are. So, yeah, that's how I got into it.

You know, I did not, none of this is planned. It's all his fault up there. So this is Holy Spirit led. Yeah. You know, our mission statement is to expose the deception of the prince of the power of the air and to herald the return of the king, Jesus. And I think, hopefully we live. up to that and that's what we do. Yeah, I think you're definitely doing that. When you, when you first

started doing this stuff all these years ago, uh, it wasn't as easy as it is now. I mean, like, there was no platforms like this looking to talk to you. I mean, you're, it had to feel like you were just taken, you know, mud throwing against the wall and seeing what stuck. I mean, who's going to listen to this one, you know, but you're doing, doing this research and just kind of sharing what you've uncovered then. He had a lot of pastors that, um, you know, kind of the deer in the headline, Yeah. Like, go away, who, who, you know, or just broadbushing. Oh, it's all demonic.

You can't say that. It's a very, the UFO is a very complex phenomenon, very, and it's real. Yeah. There's physicality to it absolutely all day long, but I digress. But yeah, I mean, I was asked to leave several churches because of this. People would look at me like I had two heads. Now, you know, and folks, you know, your government, our government, has declared that the phenomenon is real. Yeah.

You know, Stephen Spielberg in his new film, you know, Disclosure Day goes, I used to wonder, I used to think, how great it would be if all this was true. And then it cuts to another scene and he comes back, it is all true. And it is. Yeah.

You know, without spoiler alert, but I've seen the movie once, I'll go back and see it again. And people are panicking it. You need to understand what you're looking at here. There's a lot of things in that film. A lot of things. Yes, it's one big chase scene.

and the ending is sort of a letdown, or is it? Or is it? I have thoughts. And we're going to be doing a live show tomorrow with you, Meek, and Karen and Jack, and we're going to talk about it because there's Derek, unfortunately Derek won't be able to be here for that, but Derek had some really good thoughts on the movie. And some of the, I'm not even going to butcher.

I'll let him do it at some time when we're talking on the show. But so that's how everything kind of comes together for you. Did you, when you started learning about this idea of the Nephilim and, you know, just the concept of it, at what point did you start thinking maybe I could research in a sense of finding artifacts or was that ever something that crossed your mind? I wonder if these things, are they actually gone? Could they still be roaming the earth? I mean, was it just coming across people's stories that made you start thinking that? or were you thinking, listen, if the scripture says this, then we got to find the evidence of it. It's a combination of factors. Dr. Thomas's book opened me up, G.H. Pembers book, Earth's earliest ages.

And then all the, you know, like reading Josephus, which I had never read before. And Dr. Thomas was one of the books that he cites. And so I got Josephus and looked at what he was talking about. And Josephus says, you know, at the writing for a century, the bones of a Nephilim, which had countenances, so, you know, unlike any normal human being, were openly on display in Hebron. So Jerusalem's here. Hebron is on the way up, it's about 20 miles away or whatever, which means that if you went to Jerusalem, more than likely, you would go through Hebron. And you would look at the giant skeletons, and you tell your little kids and your wife, see that?

That's what your ancestors cleared out of a land. So it was all there. And, you know, one thing leads to another. One of the turning points for me was years ago. The late Rust is, Russ and I were at 90 conferences together. 90? 90.

Holy cow, I hope I never attend 90. Well, that's right, right? We were everywhere together, and we were battle buddies. I mean, I have had pictures where he walks in the room and I just start lighten up and vice versa. Homie, as we would call each other. We did a road shift as the two of us. I won't go there because it's just, you know,

It's like, it's just, it's just Cheech and Chong. I mean, it's unbelievable without the, you know, inhaling. I was going to say, clarify a little bit. It's just like, we're just laughing the whole time, hysterical, you know, on just goofing on stuff. So, Russ goes, he goes, hell, A, calls me up one night. He goes, you know where you're going. I go, yeah, I'm going to this conference in Ohio. So you have to know Russell.

He starts laughing with this little chuckle thing. I'm, okay, what's going on? He goes, do you really know where you're going? And I go, no, I'm just going to Ohio. He goes, you're on your computer? I go, yeah. And he goes, Google Nephlehem Chronicles, fallen angels in the Ohio Valley.

I go, what? So I Google that. Fritt Zimmerman's book comes up. This is the beginning of the end for me. Wow, I just got that book in the mail. Yeah, right? And so I order it. I get the book, but I also order the PDF

because I have a five-hour flight the next day because it's a stopover, L-A-X to Ohio. So I'm doing this thing. And I'm reading this. I'm like speed reading. It was just like, oh my gosh, I had no idea. So, Fritz is talking about the octagon mound, the circle mound, all the summer stuff in Ohio, and I had no idea of it. And so I'm at the conference, and a driver's picking me up from the hotel, bringing me to the conference back and forth.

So on Saturday, the conference started on, I fly on Thursday, Friday, the conference, so Saturday and then Sunday, and then I'm off Sunday afternoon. So it's Saturday afternoon, I go, hey, you know, where's this, you know where these NERC Earthworks, the Great Circle Mountain? You know where these, oh, yeah, we've been passing it every day. It's right up here about a mile on the right. I go, no way. It goes, yeah, way. So the car, and I see the big side, NERC, NERC Earthworks, as they say. They don't pronounce NERC.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They pronounce it NERC. NERC, yeah. So we passed the sign, do the conference. Next day is Sunday. I have, like, the whole afternoon free. He drops me off in the parking lot. This is a moment that only happens maybe once in a lifetime to people, if at all.

And I'm the only person there. He drops me off and there's a little parking lot, no other cars. There's a four-foot asphalt path that takes you up to the entrance of a circle mound. As I'm walking up the path, I realize there are the walls of the great circle mound. Not I said serpent, circle mound. And they're huge. They're like 20 feet tall. And I get up to the top.

Yeah. I get up to the top and I look to the right. There's a museum. and I look to the left and there's the gateway. So it's the circle and there's the gateway where you walk into the circle. And there's a moat that goes all the way around the circle, right? And we're supposed to believe that Native Americans did this. I'm sorry.

So I walk up to the entrance and I stand in the entrance. I'm the only person there as Twilight. I'm the only person there's nobody else on the site. And that in itself is weird. I'm the only person there, and I'm dead center of the entrance, and I'm like this, hyperventilating. Spirit of the Lord is all over me, and I realize I am looking at the rest of my life. Wow. I am looking at the rest of my life.

And that led to Amit Trail of Nephilim. It led part of it into the Watchers series. I mean, everything just exploded from that moment on, and here we are. And I've been all over the place. You know, I'm 75. I'll be 76th in December. And I'm winding now. What day in December?

14th. 14th. Oh, thank you. Send this. Quick. Send your donations right now. You'll get this magic prayer claw. No, but.

My son's the 8th and Lindsay's the 16th. That's my ass. Oh, wow. Okay, cool. Very cool. No, but 34 films, 16 bucks all around UFOs, Nepalim. Because everything dovetails together. You know that.

Yeah. And we just look behind us, right? Everything dovetails. like this. It's all sourced as Rust is, I would say, from Hell's Kitchen. So that's the source of it. Yeah. So that's, that was the nexus of it. And you just said, though, you just said about being, turning 76 soon and winding down.

Yeah. Really? You think you're winding down? You think you're going to wind down? I don't, I don't believe that at all. Because last time we talked, I think it might have been even on the show you mentioned about, I think, maybe it was just off there, but how, I think both your parents lived in their 90s. they were. Yeah. And like not just like barely making it to their 90s. They're they're very active.

Yeah. Very much so. So I mean, you're fine. But no, we are. We're not doing conferences per se anymore. We just, you know, like you, concentrate on a daily show. Yeah. Thousands of people come to a daily show. Why? You know, so we're not doing that. As far as books and stuff, as far as international travel, nothing, nothing's on the books. It's like I have two films that are in the can. I've got to finish. The 16th book, I'm done to my last chapter, chapter. 14, and that should be done this week. And that's called a Luciferian end game. Charisma will publish it. Charisma Media is also doing an expanded version on rungs of disclosure. Because there's more rungs. There's way more rungs.

And they're selling it like hotcakes, they're told me. Wow. They're selling four or 500 books every single week. Wow. And they need to because this is it. It's all there. So they've, because the book only goes up to 18, but not anymore. They're going to go from 19 to 31, which is where we are now.

Wow. 31. Yeah. Yeah, 31st rung, which is really cool. And then what I'm hoping for is that the waiting room, I think that's it right over there. The waiting room is set up for a sequel. But I haven't gotten marching orders on it yet. So I've got to finish this book.

I'm taking the rest of, you know, take July and August off, September. I'll start working on the films again and get those out. And then after that, I don't know. We'll see what the Lord has in mind. I mean, obviously he's raised me up for this. for such a time as this. And, you know, I'm, in some ways, I'm Mr. No-it-all. I say that.

Tongue in cheek, of course. He's Mr. No-it-all, but, I mean, he's raised me up for this for, like, over 30 years. Yeah, you can't, like, right at the pinnacle of everything, you can't be like, okay, I'm done. I don't think so. We're not letting that happen. You remember Justin Fall? Yeah, I text him a few weeks ago. I hope he doesn't, I know, she probably doesn't listen anyways, but I text him a few

weeks ago and we've been trying to touch base but I basically because I kept on missing phone calls and stuff with him, I just sent him to text him what I wanted to talk to him on the phone about. I said, man, listen, we are living in a time where. Unprecedented. Yeah, it's unprecedented. And I said, you were dropping information years ago when the world wasn't ready to hear it. And I said to him, it's time for you to kind of come back out and talk and and share with people what you know and what you've researched because the world's ready to.

hear it now. And he never answered that text message. So I don't know, I don't know if he agrees or not. But we text here and there and stuff. But I just really, I really believe in him. And he and he's a really good guy. And his research has done a lot of good work in my mind. So you're in that vein as well where now is the time. It's no, it's no, it's no sleeping. No, and I get that, which is why I'm here. Yeah. Tomorrow, you know. And on the seventh, I'll be down to day. A star. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

Okay. They fly in me in. And this is it. I don't, you know, this is what, you know, I'm, I've been trained for for 30 years. Yeah. And there's a corpus of work. It's not like, it's not, you know, we haven't looked at other people's. We went to the debris field.

Yeah. You know, I can go get it if you want me to. We got a piece of metal out of a debris field. Yeah, you did. We've taken implants out of people that were abducted and then implanted. And then when we went in the operating theater to remove the implant, it vanished. And then one prayer bought that. thing back. I'm not making this stuff up. You know, we've got films on cattle mutilations,

films on crop circles. I mean, this is real research. We've not just reading what someone else has done. We've been there. You know, we've talked to the ranches who had their cattle mutilated, and we, we may be the first researchers ever to put this together. Human, human blood and bovine blood can be interchange. You've got a process to cow's blood. I get that. So when you take, and Karen can, you know, maybe we can talk about this tomorrow with Karen, but a woman is impregnated by them, and there's a hybrid entity within them. Third month, they're re-abducted.

That hybrid entity, hybrid fetus, is removed. Well, it needs to go into an artificial wound. That's what the cow's blood is used for. That's why they drain the blood out of the cow, and they take the genetic material, and they're creating artificial wounds. That's what they're doing, which is, you know, hell's kitchen,

high strangeness to benignes. This is where we are. And Jesus warns us, it'll be like a day's-in-noa. This is exactly what happened in Bada's Noah. When it comes to the implants that you just mentioned, did you ever find yourself in a situation where you got an opportunity? I don't know if it's an opportunity or not, but to actually hold it, hold an implant.

You want to hear the story? I do, yeah. Okay. My very first book comes out, Nephilim, the truth is here, published by Zondervin. We have the rights back, so we publish it ourselves. Oh, wonderful. Hold on. Chuck.

Save me, Chuck. I'm telling you, man. It's these long days. You're on California time. Yeah, three, two, we're on three hours earlier. Yeah. I'm a spring chicken. Okay, three, two, one.

You like that? It was something little audio to cut too. Thank you. One. So it's 1999, 1998. My first book, Nephlema's come out. Now, I have been emailing Dr. Roger Lear.

His website used to be the alien in the scalpel, with scalpel and the alien, right? Something like that. And he was a podiatrist. And at this point, he had taken out his first implant. So I go down to this UFO meetup group because Barry Chalmish from Israel is speaking. And Barry Chalmish's book, Nephilim, because they're appearing in Israel during this time. Giant footprints. People were seeing these things.

Wow. He's freaking out. And he was an Israeli journalist. So he's speaking there. So I go down and I walk up to, it was only like maybe 30 or 40 people there. And I hold up my book, Nephilim. He just goes like this. And we communicated until he passed away a number of years ago.

Good guy. So I get wind that Dr. Roger Lear is also attending the meeting. So I go up to him. I go, Dr. Roger, this is L.A. Marzuli. We've been emailing each other. Great to meet you. And, you know, we converse back and forth. And I go, I understand that you just.

took out your first implant. He goes, yeah, would you like to say it? And that's a really good invitation of Dr. Laird, by the way, just so you know, okay? We won't charge you extra for that. So I go, yeah, yeah. And he goes, hold out your hand. So I hold up my hand.

He reaches it. This is, you have to know, Roger. This is what he just loved it. And so he reaches in this spot. He takes a little vial out. And he goes like this, wiggles it. My hands like this. He opens up the vial and he pours, puts the, you know, the implant tumbles out.

in my hand and I'm going, I am holding something more than likely not from this earth. Wow. And that began this friendship. Dr. Roger was in all 11 of our Watchers series. Dr. Roger Lear broke the Combergas story. Some people go, oh, it's a hoax. It's not real. Excuse me.

Richard Shaw, the director of all of our Watches series, the three of us would meet together for lunch once a month, Roger, Rick, and myself. and we would, you know, talk shop, talk UFOs. And Dr. Roger Lear gave Richard the original footage of the Combergaz UFO. He had to go buy a 35-millimeter deal so he could watch it. He went through it frame by frame. And what he found, and this is in Watchers 11, I think, he shows that there's a third entity. So you see the grays, like behind me, right?

You see the grays like this. And it appears like there's someone laying on a table in front of them. and there's an entity that does this. Really? Back and forth like this. And it kind of looks like a mantis, right? And Rick, Rick did a frame-by-frame analysis. So for those people who are trying to tell us that this is a hoax, you know,

think again, we were there. You know, it's Roger actually talks about it. And what's great is the cameraman, I'll use this for a prop. So the cameraman, here's the moon, let's say. So he pulls way back. So here's the moon. And right underneath it like this is a little white speck. Okay.

He's got a telephoto lens on his cameras like this long. So here's the moon. Here's this little white speck. So then he zooms in and you see the moon. You see the little white speck. Then he zooms on the little white speck and you see the craft with the two guys in the craft. Really? Oh, yeah.

I mean, and we just recently did this woman who's an artist. Her name is Deb. She goes by Dev. I had her on my show, and I can give you that. You know, it's on my computer. So she took the Kumburgas UFO with the grays in it, and she began to put filters on it and filters and filters. And you can plainly see, you know, the bulbous head with the big black eyes.

It's right there. Wow. Yeah, right there. So, yeah, that's how all that's hard. I know there's, I can't remember exactly off the top of my head, but there's controversy how the doctor died. Is that right? It's kind of iffy.

Because I'm assuming we don't have any of the implants that he pulled out of people then. One guy has them all. One guy has them all? A guy has them all. I feel like you're about to tread lightly. Really, yeah. Really interesting you should mention that. I'm actually thinking about reaching out to him and saying,

Number 17, which is the last one that Dr. Roger Lear pulled out. We paid for everything there. Oh. Richard and I, we paid for everything. We paid Dr. Matrishiani. There was another cameraman. I won't mention anything about that. I can't go there, but he created a film on, you know, using part of our film,

which Rick let him have, but he never gave his credit. That's okay. That's how the game is played. I totally understand. I'm a big boy. No harm, no foul. You know, somebody's watching, though. Yeah, I don't know.

They didn't give credit here. Okay, name plays, thank you. I feel like that about some people clipping my show for their own channels. Oh, yeah. It's unbelievable. I'm like, hey, that's me. And you're not labeling it me, nothing. No, that's it.

Using my face and likeness. Oh, yeah, all day long. That's how the game is played here. Hello. So he's got the implants. And I was going to reach out to him and say, look, I'll give you a thousand bucks. Just give me the implant. that we took out.

Yeah. We've already spent over $5,000 close for the seven to get all of us out. And Emil, who we took it out, it's actually his property. And he wants it back. So I'm going to, I'm going to reach out to this guy. And is it a reasonable person? I don't know. So you don't know.

I'm very personally. I know him, but the fact that, you know, he's gone kind of dark and he won't let anybody look at these things. Really? Yeah, kind of hoarding them. Okay. But I don't know. I haven't, I haven't seen him in years.

But it's just really interesting. I should say that because I really thought just the last couple of days of maybe, hey, let's look them up on the Internet, send out a nice email. You know, I'd like to get this back. Emile would like it back. I would like to do some testing on it. He actually wrote a chapter in one of my books, which was really great. Because he did some, there was a guy who was abducted.

I mean, to back that up. There was a man who was an experiencer on some level. So he's in bed one night. The true story. True story. Okay. And this is the deep end of the pool, but we've had Karen on. Yeah.

We've had Karen on. Yeah. So that's the deep end of the pool. These two hybrid females appear in his room. How does that work? And they basically rape him. Both of them. Okay.

And he's paralyzed. You can't move. But they rape him. Wow. And the next morning he wakes up. and he's having trouble urinating, gee, I wonder why. And he notices that there are two blondeish hairs because these entities were very alien-looking,

big black guys, long blonde hair, but they were obviously females. And he has the presence of mind of taking the hair and getting it analyzed. Wow. And this is hard science. So we took the hair, this is, it's in my book,

Amitrail of a Nephilim. We took the hair from a, basically a 2,000-year-old mummy from the Paracas skulls. It was a piece of red hair. We unwrapped that mummy skull in Paracas. We did that. Thank you, Brian Forrester. Thank you, Senior Juan, who's no longer with us. It was his museum.

He allowed us to unwrap this mummy. We did the carbon-14 dating on it. It's 1,935 years old. Richard filmed everything, okay? We broke the story. and we had the hair analyzed. We also had the DNA analyzed in three different labs. The DNA came back U2E1, which is Eastern European.

It's not contaminated. There's three different samples to three different labs. There's no collusion between the labs. U2E1. Gee, I wonder what that is. That's Eastern European. That rewrites history as we know it, but the academics don't like that.

Oh, it's all contaminated. Well, if it's all contaminated, why didn't we get nuclear DNA from us? We took my DNA samples and other people's DNA samples and nothing matches, and our protocols were above board. Anyway, I digress. So we have the hair sample from the parochus mummy skull. We have the hair sample from the man who was raped by these two blonde. You could call them Nordics, but they're hybrids.

They're not entirely human. And we analyze them. Roman spectroscopy. okay this is where it gets interesting and there's a graph so you take a normal human hair and it kind of goes like this all right that's what it is you take a dyed human hair and it goes like this and goes up through the roof these are graphs you take the mummy the right hair from the mummy and the white hair from the man who found it on him and they go like this wow they trace just like that identical and he wrote a paper on this

because we had critics that, you know, of course, they don't know anything about this, but we had critics, but, you know, the gentleman who did this stood by his work and gave a very detailed description of why. And so what's interesting about this, okay, this ties into our work on Menephalim, like the days of Noah. Their seedlingle with the seed of meant. So here we have this entity, and it's not human. You can say what you want.

the foramen magnum is pushed all the way to the posterior of the skull. That's not normal. It's elongated. The eye sockets are 20% larger. It's got kind of reddish hair. And, you know, the DNA puts it in Eastern Europe. That rewrite's history. So what we're looking at, in my opinion, are the remnants of a Nephilim, which were

in Peru. They sailed. And look, in our film, the very first film on the trail of a nephaline, we have us clip by Thor Hyrodal. So, you know, Thor Hyrodol pushed back against the prevailing narrative, and he creates a replica of a papyrus boat that was used a couple thousand years ago, right? And he launches this thing off, essentially from West Africa, straight to Gibraltar. No compass, no map, nothing. This puts up the sail, let's see where we go. And guess where you'll wind up. You'll wind up on the island of Barbados. That's the new world. And from there,

Hop, skip, and a jump, and you're in Peru. And that's what they did. But mainstream science, archaeologists don't like that because he writes history. Mainstream archaeology has a paradigm. It's called isolationism, which believes that people move very, very slowly. Nothing changes. People don't really go anywhere. Diffusionist, of which, of course, I am in ardent diffusions,

diffusionists believe that, no, that's not true. There's a river. Let's see where it goes. I'm 16. Let's get the canoe. and we'll just travel for a couple of days. Okay, let's go. And off you go.

We're a diffusionist. And that's exactly what happened. There's a stele on the shores of North Africa. I got this from my friend Mark Kahn. And Mando Gonzalez also talks about it. But, you know, it's pretty much common knowledge. There was a stele that was on the north shore of Africa that was recorded by the Roman historian Procopius,

which says, We are they who fled from the face of Joshua with a robber the son of none. Now, what the heck is that doing there? Wow. That shows you that the conquest of Canaan was true. And for most people that go to church, this is never taught. When you get there, it's like, well, this sounds like genocide to me. Oh, God's got his reasons. And that's what you hear. It's just nonsense. It's the seed war, Genesis 315. He should show that clip right here, right? Hello? But it's the Genesis 315 seed war. And it's fully manifested. That's laughing over there. It's fully manifested when they come into Canaan. We saw the Nephilim.

They're like grasshoppers on their side. It's not genocide. I got this from Judd Burton. It's giant's side. The giants are in the land, but there's also other tribes that may have different genetic characteristics. That's conjecture on my part. But Anakeem means longnecks, okay? Nephilim, Raphaim, Imams, the Horites. They're all different, maybe different genetic characteristics, but they're there. And they're not human. They're not human. And this is why they go in and they clear of a land. Guess what? I think

we talked about this last time I was here. Guess where they didn't conquer? Just take a wild guess where they didn't go and conquer the Gaza Strip. That's right. They never went in the Gaza. And just for what it's worth,

you've got your six finger right there, the six-fingered hand. When they're exchanging the prisoners, In Gaza, the Israelis who have been locked away in tunnels for a couple years, right? And they're bringing them out. They're making this big show of it. They've got a banner. Okay?

On the banner was a six-fingered hand. And it's written in Hebrew and an Arabic and in English. And it says, we are the flood. They know exactly who it is that they serve. And that's deliberate all day long. It's deliberate. Just saying, I'm not saying that the people in Gaza are Nephilim. I'm not saying that.

Well, maybe some. Who knows? But that's deliberate. Six-fingered hand, that's deliberate. Wow, that's wild. I mean, and I would say, for my little joke there, everybody who got upset by it, I think there could be Nephilim in other places,

other than the Gaza Strip. I'm not biased. So, first of all, kind of what you were just hitting on here, I had done a little study on David's Mighty Men. And his, it lists by name his top three guards. There's a whole slew of soldiers, but it lists the man who was the head of his bodyguards,

has been, Benaya. And it lists Benaya's feats. And it talks about how he killed this Egyptian soldier and, and so, some Bible translations, it says that the Egyptian soldier was a very beautiful man. And it's like, okay, well, that's not a qualifier to be the King David's bodyguard. Okay, so what else? And when you look at it, other translations talk about how this Egyptian soldier was a gigantic man. And then it says that he killed two lion-headed...

Two lion-headed men, right? From Moab. Yeah, right. And when you look at... What are you looking at here? Yes, when you're looking at Moab and what was going on there, I make the argument that if you're trying to list somebody who is a very impressive person who David,

who is a, David in his own right, is a, like, for lack of better terms, a super soldier. Like he was the dude. And if you're being put in charge of protecting him, killing two hybrid animal creature things, line-headed creatures, I think that's a qualifier, just like an Egyptian giant would be, you know? And so going to the scriptures and how we're not necessarily taught.

And I don't, I used to fault pastors when I was younger, like younger. You can't because they're, they come through seminary. Exactly. I went through seminary. And I did. Not a word. No. I had one professor.

I had one professor, Mark McLean. And he would, in his like, spare. time around us would talk about this weird thing, the Nephilim. And so he was my fourth episode I ever did. I invited him to my house in Pennsylvania. And we talked about the topic. But it was not something that is discussed in a very serious academic way. No, it's not. And so most, I think times are changing now because of the world we're living in. Oh, yeah. But up to this point, most pastors weren't taught about it. And so pastors, I mean, for whatever you want to say, say the church is rolling stuff, pastors are very concerned with shepherding their flock.

And at least a lot of pastors that I've been around are interested in disciplining the believers in their flock so they can go out and make more disciples. That's the status quo. Right. And so I don't want to, I used to be real hard on it. You know, like when you were here for, or not here, but you were my 18th episode. In that era of the show, I was very much like, I don't understand why pastors, da-da-da-da, you know. And now I don't really have that feeling towards them.

I guess I have more grace towards their perspectives. But the way things are going now, they need to wake up. They need to wake up, but it's also what I feared what happened. So there was a guy that I went to church with, and when I first started the show, him and I would talk about these topics. And he had no idea about Nethlehem. And so I'm just a schmuck that drives a truck with a podcast to him. So he made an appointment to meet and talk with our pastor about it. And in that meeting, the very first thing the pastor says is, yeah, I don't really know much

about that. And that's kind of the stuff that gave me a real bad attitude towards it. But now, one, I don't think they can say that because it's such a topic of discussion now. But now I think that that very scenario of I don't know much about that, that's the thing that I feared with this kind of stuff, is that pastors aren't going to going to have answers to what the world is going to start discovering. Okay, it's time for a commercial break to pay the bills. Listen, we got a new one here, Field of Greens. Most people don't look forward

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You control just like liberal colleges, right? You pack the college with liberal thought and you turn out little liberals. Because all they're doing is parroting what the professor tells them. Yeah. Right? Yeah. They're just parroting, and the professor's parroting what he was told. You're going to keep one scripture away from the people, away from the pastors. You never teach them this. So they walk out of seminary, have no idea what's going on. You never explained Genesis 315. Thank you, Gary Stearman.

You never explained Genesis 315, which, in my opinion, sets up the rest of the biblical prophetic narrative. The seed of the dragon, the offspring of the dragon, will be, war with the offspring of the woman, first prophecy. The Messiah, the proto-evangelium will crush the dragon's head. You'll bruises service. The whole Bible. It's the whole thing. Three chapters later, you get the Nephilim. And the whole Sepite theory wasn't invented until the 4th century. So when Jesus goes, it'll be like the days of Noah, 2,000 years ago, when I return, which everybody's going, where are you going? What do you mean when you return? You're like the days of Noah. They all know he's talking about because the bones of a Nephilim are

in Hebron. We've already got to touch that. They already know. They don't know exactly what he's talking about. So the knucklehead, Julius Afrikanus, I say that with all due respect, shows up in the 4th century and just writes the Sethite theory. So the sons of God become the gaudy line of Seth and the earthly human women

are the hoochie mama's a cane. The last time I checked, sorry, Tony. That's a good one, right? Jack's over there, stifling a laugh. But the bottom line is this, you know, Huchi-Mama is not in the Bible. It's just not there.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's funny. All right. I've got to choking my water here. I'm sorry. But that's so that's what is promulgated in many churches, which to me is a complete disconnect. Sons of God has always translated, Benehaha Elohim.

You can tap dance around that and tell me that's not what it says. Take it up with G.H. Pember, take it up with Dr. I.E. Thomas. Take it up with the late Chuck Missler. Take it up with Gary Steerman. You know, those of us who are dispensationalist, of which I'm a charismatic dispensationalist, but this is it. This is exactly what it is. And without it, you don't teach that in the seminary.

A pastor doesn't teach it to his flock because he doesn't know. Doesn't know. And there are good men and good women out there who believe in the Sethi theory. But the Sethi theory isn't invented. until, or interpretation, is it invented to the fourth century. Augustine latches onto it. You get a thousand years of dark ages, right? And then finally you get Gutenberg in the 14th century, you know, 1444, the printing press.

And even then, Tyndale was burned at the stake. So this whole thing is like kept under wraps. And then you control the narrative by placing a professor who believes this, not the Genesis 315. It's not taught. It is not taught. I'm not aware of any seminary right now. maybe there is one that teaches the Genesis 315 narrative about the seed war. And it's right there.

The offspring of the serpent, the offspring of the dragon, will be at war, Emmettie, with the offspring of the woman. And I read, well, it means offspring for the woman, but not for the dragon. Well, how is the same word? How can it possibly, how can you pick and choose? And it sets up the whole thing, because when you get to Genesis 6, that's the culmination of a seed war. When you get to the Tower of Babel, there it is again.

Abraham and the Kings, who is Abraham fighting Nephilim? When you get to Sodom and Gomorrah, is the God of the God of the Old Testament some sort of malicious, capricious, maniacal god? No. Why are they so depraved at Sodom and Gomorrah? Because it's a Nephilim stronghold. Finally, when we get to the conquest of Canaan, it's genocide. You can, again, you can try to squeeze that thing and torture the attacks and do, it's genocide. It's genocide, unless the Nephleim were there.

And that's exactly who is there. Finally, when you get to Daniel 243, you know, their seed, there's that dirty word against seed, their seed will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them. And this is the latter days, the angels telling him, you know, seal up the book, Dan, until the time of the end. What's the time of the end? Well, men and women will want two and for over the face of the earth, knowledge will increase. So if you're an on millennialist, well, that's just, you know, we can't trust that. That's allegory.

No, it's not. It's literal. we are in the time of the end. Israel's back in the homeland, number one. Number two, as we are speaking, men and women are traveling over the face of the earth. Knowledge increases, my gosh, look at AI. Every hour, right? We're here. And guess what? The seed war is happening. Talk to Karen Wilkinson. The hybrids are walking amongst us, the title of Dr. David Jacobs book. So we're here. But if you're on a millennialist, none of us makes any sense. It doesn't matter. It's an allegory. You can't possibly figure out what's going on. But for those of us who look at it,

the Bible literally and take it literally. Sons of God are always, always, Beneha Elohim, which always refers to, you know, the angelic host. And whatever you do, the other thing is, don't read the book of Enoch, okay? If you read the book of Enoch, you're going to get spank. This is ridiculous. Read the book of Enoch. You can appreciate its historicity.

It's quoted in Jude. And just think about this. So Jude is Jesus's brother. They don't have books back then. They have scrolls. and scrolls are a lot of money. So why is Jew quoting the Book of Enoch? You know, it would be like those who left their first estate this whole thing, right?

So why is Jude quote, you don't quote something unless it's part of your warehouse. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Behold, I tell you a mystery, we shall not all, you know, sleep, but we shall be changed at a moment of tweaking.

Why do I know that? Because it's part of my wheelhouse, part of who I am. So Jude is quoting, Jude is quoting from what he knows, right? So this is conjecture, hypothetical. I'm having fun here. Please don't burn me in the stake at the end of a church service, okay? No auto deface for L.A., but just think about this. So Jesus is the elder brother.

Maybe Jesus walks in, he's got a scroll. And he goes, hey, Jude, but he goes, hey, Jude. Right? I got this book of Enoch or a scroll of Enoch. You might want to read this. It might come handy a little bit later. I'm not saying that happened, but it could have happened. Because they're all living together.

He's a Lord's brother. I mean, we don't know. Maybe when we get to the other side, we'll get the video and we get to watch it, you know. Maybe he does walk in and he starts singing, hey, Jude, I don't know. I'm being sillier, folks. But there's a strong possibility that that could have happened that way. And all Enoch one does is amplify what happened, what happened. And you take, and this is the challenge, take Enoch chapter 6 and your King James version and overlay them.

They read word for word. The only differences, Sons of God is translated to Enoch, the angels of heaven, which is exactly what the whole process is. Wow. Yeah, the book of Enoch is another topic that, you know, it seems like there's camps both ways and they get very extreme. Oh, they get violent. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just like, all right, guys, let's just relax a little bit.

Just take a deep breath, okay? Just breathe. It's going to be okay. And but I think people get like that when they're put in an intellectually uncomfortable place. Yeah, and that's what happens. Yeah. It's just one of those things where it makes them uncomfortable and they react like that. So when it comes to the Seed War, the Nephilim, and the widespread of this, Catalina Islands is a big chapter in your work.

Yeah. Before we get to that actual, the content of that chapter that you're involved in here, the spread of giants. What are your thoughts on how it happened, why it happened? You know, because I tend to, I tend to go a little crazy with my theory. So I want to hear yours first before. I tell you how weird I am. Well, I mean, we're both weird. I mean, a lot of, you know, a lot of people look at this, go, whoa, what's

That has everything to do with Jesus. It has everything to do with Jesus. Everything. So you have a diaspora, and you can follow that diaspora from the Holy Land. Northern Africa, you can follow it all through the Mediterranean, which I have done. You know, go to the island of Gozo. Go to the island of Malta, and you see these megalithic structures. Go to Sardinia.

You know, I've been to all these places. Go to the Ballericks, the same thing. Well, we're not sure who built these towers, but they just disappeared. Isn't that great? You know, it's like, okay, hmm. And that, wherever you go, it's the same thing. And then from there, you go into Menga, Spain. It's the largest domen in all of Europe.

The largest dolman. The capstone is absurd. Absolutely absurd. Okay. And from Menga, you go to Portugal. So then from Portugal, you get into Spain. Or I'm sorry, from Spain, you go to Portugal. Portugal, you get into France.

France, you get into the UK. And then Ireland. all these dolmens, Stonehenge, it's all there. And then they hop over here. They can just hop right like that very easily. And what do we see? America Stonehenge. And we broke a story on that.

Well, we didn't, but we have a whole film on that. Actually, two films on that. New Hampshire, right? Yeah. And what's interesting about America Stonehenge is there's, when you take the center of the hinge, the center of the site, and you go out to the SummerSolst's Standing Stone,

the sun sets right over that stone, like this, sets right over the stone. You draw a line. This is the work of Kelsey Stone, who, he broke the story. He's a college to get 23 years old when he did this. So it goes on Google Earth years ago. He draws a line. See where it goes. Maybe it comes near my house.

Well, the line comes pretty close to himself. Hey, that's pretty cool. Since I'm on Google Earth, what the heck? Let's see where it goes. No one are never done this before. No one. So he's on Google Earth, and he draws the line. And now he's by Nova Scotia.

and now he's across the Atlantic and he goes through Ireland and he finds himself in Southern England and he goes I think I'm close to Stonehenge and so he zooms in and that line Tony there's two trilathons

they're like this so the line comes through the center of each one and you can't do that that's spherical geometry there's something we discovered which is in Amitrail of Nephilim number nine And that's probably one of the last films I will edit. And I've just got, I have my start.

It's taken me two years. And finally, this one particular gentleman, who's a chief of the Shawnee, came on the record. And that's what I've been waiting for. So Jay, if you're watching this, thank you. So, you know, Jay came on. And he's a Shawnee chief. He brought his drum and all his regalia.

And he just starts singing this thing, which is like, who knows how old it is, this song. It's all in film. That's the opening to the film. It's just him. And then in the background, I'll be just showing different things. But the bottom line is,

there's a connectivity. And in our film, Amit Trail of Nephilim number nine, we will show that connectivity in a similar way that what we discovered at America Stonehenger, what Kelsey showed.

And we did a whole film on this. But Amit Trail 9 will show something which I believe is just, absolutely mind-boggling, mind-boggling. And this has been, we've done it over, we've tested it on Google Earth over and over and over again. We know it holds true, and it rewrites history. But of course, the powers that B don't want to rewrite history. So there's this diaspora of the giants. They are fleeing. They come over to the New World, America Stonehenge.

They go into, in my opinion, they go into Ohio. They start spreading through down the Mississippi River, but you go to places like Cahokia. So Cahokia is about 450,000 tons of earth. 450,000 tons of earth. That's a ton. I mean, that's a lot more than a ton. And we're told that Native Americans with clamshell hose, a clam shell hose, a clam shell hose, seriously, or stone hose, and birch bark baskets, right? A hundred-gatherer people somehow collected all this dirt and made this smell. Well, how did they compact it, number one? Who has time to do this number two, who's feeding the workers number three? Why is it if 40-acre plaza in front of Kohokia is almost dead level to four inches? Why is it that the moat and the

great circle mound in the Norfolk Earthworks, which we've already talked about? Why is that moat dead level, almost dead level? We hired a surveyor who went in a different place of that mine. Essentially, it's dead level. How did they do that? And we have, we interviewed this guy, the surveyor, and he said, well, they could have brought water room. How did they bring the water in? Who's got time to do all this? And then you get the celestial alignments. And I'm going to tell you guys something. Not too many people know about this.

And this is the work of Fritz Zimmerman. See the way I always give credit to people. I've noticed several times. Always, always, always. Because, you know, that's, I'm standing on Fritz's shoulder. Fritz Zimmerman had this idea, a theory, that this was not, this was Celtic in some way. and the Celts are picking up all this stuff from, this is Nephilim architecture,

what we're looking at. So when we were there years ago, a couple years ago with our surveyor, and he had this little gadget where he could look at sunrises and he proved what Fritz had hypothesized. So Fritz goes out there, and we have all this on film

with the North Paranormal Group and some drones and stuff. The bottom line is, so I'd have to show you the picture. So you have a circle like this, and you've got the gateway. to that circle. Guess what that gateway?

This is Fritz Zimmerman's idea, his theory, and we proved it. The sun comes up on Boutain, May 1st, directly in the gateway. Wow. Directly in the gateway. Native Americans knew nothing about Boutain. It's not there.

It's a Celtic festival. Bale? Where's that from? Clearly goes back. See what that? Yeah. It travels, right? So there it is.

And Fritz proved it. Absolutely proved it. We did it two years in a row. It's right there, dead center of the gateway. Boutain May 1st. No Native American tribe that we're aware of knew anything about May 1st or celebrated. It just didn't do it. So we're looking at a hidden history, which has been deliberately obfuscated from the peoples of the world. So now let's go out to Catalina. The giants moved, and we know this from Sarah Winamaka, who talked about the red-haired cannibalistic six-finger giants in the southwest. In the South-Law Cave, right? I've been to Lovelock Cave. I've been in there. I've seen it.

So I'm out. I get, I know, we could go for hours like this. I mean, Lovelock Cave. You've been to it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow. That's one of my bucket list places. It's a letdown because it's sealed up. Well, can't you cross the rope? No, you can go into the cave because there's nobody there. It's in the middle of nowhere. There's nobody there. But there used to be the Cave Central. And then there was a wing that went this way and a wing that went that way.

That's all sealed. They sealed it. They sealed it up. That's where all the artifacts and the giant skeletons were found. Wow. Along with the giant, it was 12, I think a 10-footer and it was a male and an eight-footer in the dry lake bed that was found. I was under the assumption that it wasn't sealed but rather like roped off where it's like,

no, no, you can't go back there. They have it sealed where it's impossible to even cross the threshold. You can go into the cave proper. There's an entrance way. But the wings are sealed off. They have been for years. I had no idea. Oh, yeah, that's what they do.

Wow. Oh, I have to do that because we're just afraid of people coming in here and... No, yeah, that's a kick in. No, no, no, let me just tell you. That's a bunch of bunk because... You could put an iron door there, right? You can put an iron door there. Yeah, you can do stuff.

We're here in Tennessee has the most caves in the United States. Kentucky's number two. This region has tons of caves. My son, second grade, goes on a field trip to a cave. Tuscaliki Tuscaliki caverns I think it's called and the story behind it

is back in the World War II era two brothers were playing and they were splashing in puddles and they realized that the one puddle they found didn't have a bottom and so once the rain and the water receded

they went back and saw that it was an opening to a cave they go in there and they play in there throughout their childhood they nobody believed that they found a cave so that was their spot

that they would go and it's a huge cave. They go to World War II. They come back home and they remember about the cave. They go visit it as adults and stuff. And they think, you know what? We should buy this property. So they get some jobs and stuff and they save their money.

They buy the property and they open it up for tourism. To this day, people can go in there and walk around and it's not finished. There's parts of it that don't have handrails. And my second grade son is sitting there with a rope looking over a cliff. Good grief. So you can't tell me that Lovelock Cave is sealed off for safety. No. My son is in second grade.

To much, if I saw it, like, boy, get back, you know. Yeah, exactly. I mean, come on now. It's deliberate. Yeah. I used to have before the fire, it was burned all my library and research papers, which is a real loss. That's like decades of stuff, decades of stuff.

I had an original, it cost me like $120 to buy this one. on Lovelock Cave. And they were, they were illustration. There were pictures, which very, very interesting. Mommies were found there. Supposedly giants. In the museum, maybe they've, you know, changed that. Excuse me.

I had my wife, there was a moccasin that was in a display case at the museum near Lovelock. Very large moccasin. So Peggy puts her foot next to it. This thing's like two and a half times as big. Wow. And when we were there, the curator allowed pictures of the elongated skulls with these huge robust jaws. All that's gone. So when we got there, we were allowed.

I said, look, I'm a filmmaker, blah, blah, blah. So the curator allowed me to look at the pictures and take pictures, which is what we did. But the skulls are no long. You can't see them anymore. So all this has been swept under the carpet because of Nagpra. Native American grave Protection Repatriation Act. So you can't look at these things

because they're Native Americans. Well, what if you're not Native American? That's our big right. I get that. And I've been to places where I've seen Native American skeletons, and I've talked to the people. You need to repatriate this thing

and bury somebody's uncle, somebody's father. This is an abomination. The elongated skulls in Peru, they just give you an example, are not human, in my opinion. And the DNA proves that. The Catalina's picture, which I discovered

was a giant. We had three different experts. Look at the picture, digitize it, figure out how tall Ralph Guden was, because it shows Ralph Goulden leading on a shovel like this. It's a nine-footer. Jeez. That rewrites history.

It rewrites history. In Catalina, when I come down my canyon from deep in the heart of the Santa Monica Mountains, right? I can see Catalina, Iowa, very clearly, very clearly, all day long. They were there. They were there. And Ralph Gooden writes about this. So we published the picture.

We write about it. So Richard Shaw, who's still alive then, we're making the Watcher Series. We fly out. No, we took a boat. Originally, I flew out, and I got to fly the plane, which is really a hoot. Yeah, I got to, okay, take the stick. It was a training plane, right? So Terry is over here, Terry Johnson, and it's got two sets of controls.

And I'm up there. I've got the head set on, okay, L.A., now take the control and look right here, keep the thing. You've got to be kidding me. No, no, no, you can do this. So I've got the stick, and I'm flying the plane at about 3,000, 4,000 feet in the air. And we're headed to Catalina. He landed it. The next day, he goes, okay, let's taxi down the runway.

Now you're going to take off. Whoa. So I taxi down the runway. way with the pedals. And I get there and he goes, okay, what you want to do is keep it, keep the plane, remember, he's got a set of control

so he can override me anytime. Keep the plane, you know, in the runway like this, just look at the nose. And when the nose starts to go up, pull back on the stick. So I took off with the airplane. I say, can I fly around the island?

He goes, sure. So we flew around the island. It's like what? I flew around the island, flew all the way back to Los Angeles. I think we were in Whitaker, Hawthorne, I think I forget where. the little airport was, and he landed it.

And that was really cool, but I digress. So I get wind of this thing, and when I take photographs, we published a book. That was with Terry taking me out there. So like a year later, Richard Shaw and I go out to the museum. Again, we want to see what's going on. We walk in. We can't even believe what we're looking at. And the curator that I knew is no longer there.

There's a girl, a young woman who's the new curator. on the wall is the picture that I discovered in the archives. Remember, I discovered it. It wasn't on display before. It was not on display. It was hidden in a Meneva envelope. It was catar, you know, had a little thing. And I discovered this thing.

And I took pictures of it. And then we had the picture analyzed. It's my intellectual property. Thank you. And so... You should stuff that thing in your shirt and walked out with it. But we have, we have the, you know, the pictures of it. Yeah.

And what they show is Ralph Gordon leaning on a shelf. the giant, which was in front of him, is cropped from the picture. You don't see that. Completely cropped from the picture. And of course, we filmed that, and that went viral. Yeah. You know, why, this is science? Why would you guys do this? Pure evidence of cover up. Why would you cover it up? You know, and so to the museum's credit, we went out there about a year or two later. They had taken the picture and really blew it up, made it black and white, and I filmed right in front of that.

It's in one of our YouTube channels, and they show a vagina, but they don't tell you what you're looking at, which again, they should, but why are they so afraid? Yeah. If this is the truth, what it does, it does two things. It points back to the validity, actually three things. It points back to the validity of the supernatural world, because these are of Nephilim. It points back to the biblical narrative. It points back to Native American oral tradition, Sarawana Makkah, and others, Chief Joseph Riverwin, that the Nephilim were here, he's red hair, six-fingered giants roam the earth. And it points back once again to the validity of the biblical

narrative. So, you know, you've got supernatural worldview, the validity of the Bible, and they've American oral tradition. And they don't like that. Yeah. It's like three. It's crazy. I don't know. I just don't personally understand it. As somebody maybe who's not invested like they are in keeping a certain narrative, I just, for me, it's like. What's the truth? Yeah. Come on, guys. What are you hiding? Yeah. Why not? I imagine there's money involved, and that's probably a big part of it. Well, the whole UFO thing was kept down until, you know, 2017 came in of David Fravor.

That's why my book, Rungs of Disclosure. You know, it's like that whole deal. It's where we're up to rung, the book only goes up to number 18. We're about to do a second edition, and we'll do the other rungs. That's coming in, I think, soon, real soon, maybe even during the summer. The bottom line is our government has dumped three dumps of UFOs. Granted, if they're all close encounters with the first kind, we're not seeing entities. We're not seeing close up.

But that's next. They're going to show that. Maybe when Trump stands up, because it will be Trump and says, we're not alone in the universe, how does that affect the average Christian? Steven Spielberg's film, you know, Disclosure Day. There's a lot of information in that film, which, you know, most people don't get, but it's there. And this is where we are. This is unprecedented, we used that word earlier, but we are in uncharted, unprecedented waters in all of history. And the cool thing is, the Bible warns us about

this. If you just, you know, if you just go, Jesus only, men feigned for fear if it's coming upon the earth, even the elect would be deceived. If that were possible, it would be like the days of Noah. Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders. The spirit expressly states that in the latter days, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to what? deducing spirits of doctrines of demons. We're here. So you say, well, how can a Christian lose its face? Well, there's two positions.

And I got this, Mondo and I had this hour-long debate. And the next morning, we reconciled it. If you're a Calvinist, you believe that you can't lose your salvation. Okay? I get that. But if you're an Armenian, which is what I am, you have free will. You can walk away. And so I get it.

And, you know, you get two theologians. You're going to get four opinions on this thing. But then you tie in, you know, second. In the second, Thessalonian chapter two, the apostasya, that rebellion, the apostasy will happen against, three opinions. Mondo Gonzalez, for instance, believes that it deals with Israel. Israel will apostatize. He may be right. We don't know. We've got to wait and see. Tommy Ice, God bless him, believes that that word means departure. He believes it's the rapture. L.A. Marzile believes it's apostasia. It's apostasy. There will be a deliberate falling away from the faith,

which ties right back into 1 Timothy chapter 4. We don't know, but that's what I'm espousing. So I just did it like a Jesus only walk through. Jesus is warning us of what's coming. And yet the church, remember the last time you heard of, you know, even the electmen to see that were possible, you know, what are we talking about here? We're here and it's happening.

And the doctrine of seducing spirits or, you know, it's here, the other side of the aisle, new ages are promulgating all this stuff. We're here. And it's also creeping into the church, too. Absolutely. Just in my casual conversations with people about, not in my church, but more like online when I'm talking to people for interviews, you see it at times.

And it's cunning. It's deceptive. And that's by design. That's why it's called a deception. Absolutely by design. Yeah. And I just, I feel like the way you describe yourself, I describe myself the same way, supernatural worldview, if you have these lenses to look at things where you wake up in the

morning and you're operating in a war that existed before you were born, you start looking at things a little different. You start understanding that there are tactics to warfare. And it's not just Satan trying to. to get you to curse at at somebody for today. It's layered, it's deep, and the whole point is to put a dividing wall between you and the one that can save you.

Amen. And it's about deception in order to do that. And so there's going to be tactics of all. There's going to be layers to it. Obviously, I think the UFO disclosure, this whole narrative is coming out is part of that. I think that the Giants could very well be part of that. I would not be surprised if coming,

I don't know how I would love honestly it'd be more fun if it happened soon but I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing some kind of disclosure about ancient history that that has been covered up like the the giants would that take I don't know like would that take the Smithsonian to to admit that they have the bones wouldn't that be something right yeah like I mean if you were going to do disclosure for for giants how how would that unfold you know what would it be the science would it be the government coming out like they are now saying that they've they've been holding down this information i don't think it would be the government i think it would have it would have to be an organization that would be in charge of collecting the evidence well you know to your point

um this a couple of italian scientists flew the satellites over the geiza plateau And of course, immediately, guys like Zawi Halas, these are amateurs, they don't know anything. Well, quit attacking them. Let's look at the data and analyze that. Who cares? You know, Biondi and Malanga, they're the two Italian scientists. If these shafts exist and they go down 2,100 feet. Under the pyramids?

Yeah. And there's other structures there. Yeah. This rewrites history. Yeah. Completely. You can take your Egyptology and chuck it. Yeah.

Because the Egyptians had nothing. And I believe, have for, you know, since I was a kid in my teens, and when I read Peter Tompkins' book, Secrets of the Great Pyramid, no way I believe that the Egyptians built this. Gary Stearman and I have conversed on this, Fallen Angel Technology, Nafelyma Architecture, that's what we're looking at. Pre-flood, destroyed in the flood. Why are there salt crystals in the Queens Chamber?

Because that's where the waters came up to. Yeah. the pyramids and that whole deal over there I've heard people talk about this and I with what you're saying and stuff I I tend to agree it seems like maybe they found something that was already there and moved into it essentially and repurposed it for their own I agree do you think that the the sphinx was like a I don't know like a something else other than obviously I think it was something else if they moved in they changed everything but do you have any thoughts on what the sphinx

could have actually looked like if it wasn't Pharaoh. It's not Pharaoh. It was something else. And, you know, the whole thing with the cartouche about the King's Chamber, I'm not buying that either. Yeah. And no one knew it was an eight-sided pyramid. Did you know that?

No. It's an eight-sided pyramid. Really? Oh, yeah. The sides go like this. So it appears like this, right? Yeah. So when you look at the sides of the pyramid, they just look like this.

So with the advent of the airplane. when the first airplane flew over the pyramid, they looked down, and you can see that the sides go like this. Wow. And according to Gary Stearman, and I agree with him, it was with the casing stones,

it was optically perfect. Optically perfect. What are we looking at? Human beings did not do this. And I believe the pyramid is far older than the Egyptians give it credit for. There are no, there are no holographics.

the so-called sarcophagus that's in there would not, and I could be wrong in this, would not be able to go through the opening to the King's Chamber, it had to be lowered in. The blocks of stone, which are granite and come from Aswan 500 miles away. So how are they quarried and how do you put those things up? There's the size of railroad cars.

How do you move them? And all of this, you know, they always, the academics, oh, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we can cup this with a copper saw and all this just not buying it. Yeah. Not buying it. And the casing zones, unfortunately,

we're all carded away, but some of them are still there. And the fact that it's, we only understood that it was an eight-sided pyramid when the plane started flying over and could see it. So the pyramid is mysterious.

But, you know, all the Egyptian authorities need to do is go to the Coffrey pyramid. And according to Malanga and Biondi, these, there's all these chambers, all these like centerfuge-type things that are under the great it's everywhere the whole underneath the complex is just this whole labyrinth of you know technology so just do this the people of the world have a right to know okay

get a dozer out there a front end loader a backhoe some workers build a platform you know maybe a half acre square right so you can take all the spoils put them on the on the platform Have your archaeologists. There's sifting everything. No one's going to lose anything. But just go down. And if you find the shaft, then, you owe, we're off to the races. Yeah.

And the history, as we know it. But they guarantee they will never do it because it's going to rewrite history. And they don't want to rewrite history. So that's unfortunate. So say the shafts are there. I believe the shafts are there. I do too. And that architecture,

any theories as to what it is? That's what I was thinking too. It looks like the test of coil, right? Yeah. Well, it powered the structures all around the globe. And then the flood happened and everything got wiped out, but we still see the vestiges of it as Soxiawaman, Oryton, Tombo, and other places. So, Stani, what the heck is that?

Those towers that look like this? How do you make a tower like that? How do you do that? You're going out of your way, it's a circle. So, and it goes up. So every eighth of an inch, the radius changes. Wow. And it's perfect.

And there's no mortar. What are we looking at here, folks? There's a hidden history. And that's pre-flood. After the flood, it goes into the megalithic, where we don't see walls like we see at the Serapium in Egypt or Saqzee-Woman in Peru. What we see are megalists and dolmens. And then from here, it goes into the earthworks.

And then it all just disappears. It stops, which is mysterious in itself. Catalan Iowan. It's almost like the last of the giants are there, and then they're gone. Well, I mean, talk about warfare. I mean, tactics change in war. And so it could appear mysterious to us, but maybe there was just a shift in how the operation was being played, you know? I agree. I agree. It's, I mean, we look at the pyramids all over the world, and then you have these other structures like the serpent mound, the circle mounds, the stonehenges,

all this stuff. And you look at it as a whole. And you know, you would want to say that the architecture you see in Egypt, how does that relate to the serpent mounds in Ohio? But maybe they all had different purposes. There was different, they looked different. I agree. Because they did different things.

I agree. But we're going to show an Amitrail of Nephilim number nine. In my wheelhouse, it just blew me away. Wow. It's my discovery. It's nobody else. I'm the only person who knows this other than our team. But it's there.

And it's, you know, people will go, oh, that's just an interesting coincidence. No, it's not a coincidence. It's not. It's not. I won't talk about it now. Okay. I was just going to say, I have to, because you keep saying this, so I have to ask for the audience.

Are you willing to talk about it now? The film will come out this year, God willing. And, you know, some people will just go, oh, so what? So that doesn't mean anything. No, it means a whole lot. Just like, I'll say this, just like America's Stonehenge, you don't go from the center of the hinge to the Somersault Standing Stone, and that line bifurcates dead center of each of the trilithons at Stonehenge, England.

And somehow, that's not a big deal, because the earth ain't flat, folks, okay, with all due respect, you flatter if it's out there. It is a sphere, and you've got to have spherical trigonometry in order to do that. You do. You have to know that. So our surveyor knows spherical trigonometry. And that's why we know that, and you go on Google Earth, which is, you know, spherical trigonometry because the Earth ain't flat at the sphere. I know you're going to get all sorts of hate. I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, Tony.

I'm thinking about it right now. You're drinking a Kool-A, Tony. Oh, my God. Seriously, guys. If you've ever fly over the North Pole, which I have, you can see. see it really clearly. Wow. You can just see the earth do this.

You go, oh my gosh. So we'll leave that as it like. Well, maybe, but let me ask you this. Because you brought the North Pole, why such secrets, why such secrecy about the South Pole, Antarctica? What do you think about that? Piri-Rees map.

What? Puri-Ris map. He was a cartographer, and he drew Antarctica and showed, that there was no ice there. So you're saying there's no ice at Antarctica? Oh, no, there's ice in Antarctica.

You better believe it's ice. But why, when he drew the map, and I think it's the 14th century, I'm really bad with numbers, folks, so I apologize. But it's hundreds of years ago, okay? He drew the map, and it's a coastline of Antarctica. Well, how could he do that? There's no ice there.

He drew it with no ice. At least that's what we think. How did he do that? So, and why is it that Hitler is obsessed with Antarctica? Why is it that they have a base there called New Schwabinland in Antarctica? What is going on in Antarctica? And nobody knows. At least right now, nobody knows.

Allegedly, underline that word, there are certain places where you can't go. Well, there's certain places you can't go in America. Area 51. You can't walk into area 51. Right. You know, you can't. You can't go there. You can't fly over it.

Same thing in Antarctica. Something's going on there. I don't know what. Steve Quayle, with all due respect, has a book out on that. And I'm not saying I'm buying it. It's the type of thing that you put on the back burner because you don't know. You can't prove it one way or the other, at least not right now. But I find it, I think Hitler escaped.

There was a great film on the History Channel, a great series, you know, hunting Hitler. Loved it, believed everything I saw. He flew out of Berlin. You know, he had an ace pirate. landed in another place, then flew to Spain, and then hopped on the U-boat, wound up in South America, Baroloche, the whole thing. I believe it. Tons of Germans in Argentina. Lots of them.

And they're all doing the Nazi salute, right? Just saying. Yeah. There's your sign. Yeah. So is there any theories? We're all over the map here. I know.

I'm sorry, but I can't help it. Are there any theories as to why he mapped it without. ice? Man, that's interesting. Google, Google the period of Rees map. I will. And it's controversial. Yeah. I don't know. Interesting. But it's like, what are we looking at here? Yeah. You know, did God do something with that?

Is that where something happened that he put a seal on it? I don't know. Because the ice is really, really deep there. Yeah. It goes way down. And they, I think it was in 2016. Up there, it is there. Jack, there's a period of race map. Thanks, Jack. That was fast. Jack, you're amazing.

So it, like, he mapped it and had animals. 15, 13. What is it? So 14th century, 1513. Wow. Furs, that's 16th. Wow. I mean, he, like, he looks like he has civilization there.

Like, it's their animals. Can you click on that and make a bigger jack? Wow. That's really interesting. Some of these ancient maps having the depictions that they have on them is really what's what's the one on the right there right there what the heck is that i mean these are these are these are animals which we don't know what they are right look at the guy to the very far left yeah it looks like his heads in his chest right what what are we looking at there that's wow yeah it really

is and you know one one of my bucketlets is to go to tiara del fuego and then pop over to an arctica but at 75 years old I don't know. You're going to... Maybe the Lord's going to come back and take us out of here pretty sooner than later. I'm telling you. Just for the audience to know, you arrived here. I mean, it had to be almost 10 o'clock at night. You come in more energy than me and Jack combined.

I don't know about that. Singing, goofing around. Yeah, having fun. Yeah, you're just like, let's go. Let's do this. We're ready to go, you know? And it's just thinking, man. So, no, 75 going on 30.

Sorry, LA, no retirement for you. No, we will not allow it. We will not allow it. So are you thinking that the documentary stuff that you've been doing is one of those things where you're only doing it once you have marching orders? Right now, yeah. I mean, I have, in other words, if I give you a plate of food, right, and you're not eating the plate of food, and you go, can I have another plate? Is that right or wrong? That's wrong.

Yeah. So I have a plate of food. I have two films, and actually there's more than that. All the stuff that we filmed, we went over to England on 2019, I haven't done anything with it. Wow. And there's a great interview with Hugh Newman that we did. Fantastic interview with him on the mounds.

So, I mean, there's a corpus of work that's just sitting there in the files that, you know, collecting dust, because I keep going out, and I think the Lord's going, why don't you just eat the food on your plate before I give you more food? Okay, I get that. So we've got the whole film that we did. It'll be three years ago this fall. Three years. Now, since then, we did the 10 films on UFOs,

which, you know, usurped the Newark Earthwork film at this last two. We also did a film, you know, Holy Shrout, Holy Fire. So it's not like we're sitting in our hands. That's 11 films right there that we did. Gil Zimmerman and I. And the 10 films on UFOs, you know, you can watch them. I don't know what it's going to air. But for the month of June, you can watch any film for 99 cents.

Why am I doing this? Get the word out. People need to be educated. Yeah. I mean, it's 10 films, you know? It's a corpus of work. Everything that you need to know about UFOs are in those 10 films. Do you think on July 8th with the anniversary of Roswell, you think anything's going to come from that this year?

Steven Spielberg in his movie, spoiler, but I do that all the time. I'm not giving it any way because he showed it in the trailer. So a slate is when you go click like this, and a slate is a chalkboard. That's what it was originally. Now we've got little whiteboards, and we use them all the time because you go click and you can see what that role is. And guess what? Rawls of New Mexico, July 7th, right? July 7th, 1947, you know, and then it's RAAF bombing group, which is the bombing group that dropped the atomic bomb on Arosha Menagasaki.

what's that in the film for? And then it cuts away and it looks like they're doing something and then it cuts away and this was really interesting. Gil and I, it's in our film on Roswell.

We have two films on Roswell. We found a piece of a debris. We're the only film company ever to show a piece of metal coming out of the ground and we've had it tested. It's between two known aluminum alloys, but it doesn't match.

How does that work? We don't know. More testing needs to be done. So where was I going on with this? So in our film on Ronsville over the debris filled, there was this black and white film that we felt had been leaked. And it's on YouTube. It was leaked.

And we looked at it at least a half a dozen times. So you got to say yourself, well, could that, could someone recreate? Well, of course they could. But for why? For a hoax? Well, they're not making any money. Who cares? It's a black and white film.

It shows, just like the Spielberg film, they're carrying in one of the entities on a stretcher. And in our film, the cameraman's here. and the guys come in this way and set it down. Somebody comes running right in front of the cameraman, goes, hey, get care of less about the cameraman, and goes right in front and looks at this entity that's been put on the ground. And there's a crowd of people and the cameraman

finally gets a shot of this thing. We think it's real, which is why we put it in the film. We think it's real. And Spielberg uses the same type of that, the same scenario in his film, you know, Disclosure Day. It's very, very interesting. And that slate says July 7th.

The paper is July 8th, which says RAAF captures flying saucer. The 9th, just a weather balloon. And then we get the character in Day of Disclosure. It goes, this 7-Nine year, carrot campaign has to end. That's what he says in the film, you know. And he's talking about Roswell. Yeah. Because the witnesses go missing.

and the deliberate obfuscation. It's a weather balloon. I mean, there's some well-meaning Christian people tell us that it's a weather balloon. My retort, have you been out to the debris field? Oh, no. Really? Well, we have.

We also found a 12-inch spike in the debris field. Why is that there to throw off the metal detectors? And Frank Kimber, who was our guide along with Chuck Zikowski, Frank had found three aluminum buttons that were issued between 1940 and 1950. You found them in the debris fill. Why? Because they stood shoulder to shoulder on their hands and knees picking up the stuff, but they didn't get all of it.

Because this thing, we show it in the film. When it hit shards of it, like a bullet out of a gun. And that's what we found. And the metal's all folded in on itself like this. It's all folded in on itself. So when we're at the lab, looking at this thing on the rescinding electron microscope, and it's aluminum and magnesium,

but it doesn't fit any known aluminum alloy. And it vexed the metallurges. We don't understand why it's, well, and it would hit, and then it would go flip like that. She couldn't get it. So it's in between two known aluminum alloys. Chuck Sikowsky's piece that he tested, same thing. Frank Kimber's piece that he tested, the same thing.

why would they drive the spikes in that field to throw off people with a metal detector? Just so that if they didn't get it all. Wow. They didn't get it all. Clearly. They didn't get it all. I have a piece. That's wow.

Chuck Secaliske has a piece. Frank Kimmel. I didn't realize that other people had pieces too. Was it a piece that from, did you guys find one piece and you split it? No. That day we found two pieces. Wow. And Chuck was generous enough to give me the one piece and Frank took the other piece.

Frank probably has a piece. at least 10 pieces, he's been out there like 20. So this is something that, that has, it's not an anomaly. Like, you can go out there and find. Well, you got to know where it is and you got to where to look and you got to have, and you got to know, Frank, Frank knew where to go and we're not to go because they spiked the field. He found three buttons on the, on the perimeter.

So he was outside of the place where they, and he goes, hey, guys, they got a hit. It's all on our film in the debris field. It's all in our film. We actually show, hey, guys, I got a hit. And we go running over the cameras jiggling like this. And he's got a little garden spade and he digs this thing out. And he's sifting his hands like this and he finds it. And he goes, and then we wash it and he puts it in my hand.

I want to make him a mess up. That's wild. All right. I got two more questions for you. And then we'll bring it in for Linnick because it's getting late. And I know we got to, I'm working a sweatshop over here. Tomorrow you got me back here. Yes, sir.

But one question, I'm sure you'll have an answer to. The other one, I'm not sure if there's actually anything. there, but I wanted to ask, because it's curiosity. All the things you studied, all the things you've researched, places you've been to, has there ever been a trip, an expedition that you went on or went to go study something that never made it to actually discussing publicly for whatever reason? Oh, yeah. I'm sitting on all sorts of stuff. Really? Oh, yeah. I thought there would be like, I honestly thought I'd ask that question. Like, no, everything that every trip I've gone on, I've talked about publicly.

No, no, no, no. I mean, when I was in England, he went to the Long Barrow's. I've talked about this publicly. But there's a film on this because I, you know, she kept the camera running. I got hit. We went into the Long Barrow's. That's where elongated skulls were found in England. And I'm interviewing Hugh Newman, and I get, boom, I get hit.

And I got brain fog. I got to get out of here. I ran out of there and sat in the sun for 15 minutes and it finally lifted. Yeah, I got all sorts of stuff that we've never, for instance, the one film that I'll be working on on a trail number nine, nobody knows about that. Nobody knows anything about that. Yeah. Well, maybe you can tell me some time when it comes out. So now I have two more.

The other one just kind of just kind of popped my head. You're talking about all these different artifacts you've touched and stuff. You know, the skulls, the implants, all these different things, the mummy. Is there in your heart? Is there any of the things that you've personally handled that hold a special part in your heart over everything else? Because, like, I know you have, you have the piece of metal that you, that you have with you. You were with, it was here last time. I'm assuming you don't leave home without it.

I wouldn't even. But, like, I mean, you unwrapped a mummy and got hair samples. Like, there's a lot of things you've done. Is there anything that, like, you're like, that's the one that really. You know, I mean, there's, it's, I think the Roswell thing, is like a kid at candy store. I mean, it's on film. I'm like beaming from ear to ear going, look what we got!

You know, because it's unbelievable. Yeah. And, I mean, right after it happened, we were in a place, no cell service at all. So because that's how remote this place is. So as soon as we got someplace, I'm on the phone with Gary Stearman. I'm on the phone with Bob Ulrich

and going, you're not going to believe what we just got out of the ground, you know? I mean, it was really, I would say out of everything, thing because that goes back to when I was a kid, you know, the whole Roswell thing. You know, we were actually in-hanger 84. We got to go in-hanger 84. Thank you, Bull.

It's just typical thing. We're on the outside. You know, we can't get in there, right? And I see this guy smoking a cigarette on the other side of the fence. I go, hey, we're a small little phone company from California. Can we come in? Come up to the front entrance. We go to the front entrance.

He's got the manager. The guy's name was Bull. and Bull goes, yeah, I'll be down in 20 minutes. 20 minutes go by. Come on in. Next thing, you know, we're in the conference room, right? And Bull's here, and I'm talking to Bow, we film all this. And I go, well, can we go into the hangar?

Yeah, let's go. And I'm like, once again, kidding the kid. It's like, oh, my gosh. And we're in the hangar. I mean, I saw that when I was a kid, you know, when they were filming there. And, you know, we got to film in Hanger 84, which is where they took, the UFO, the damage UFO, and the bodies. It's all there.

Wow. So that was pretty cool. That's surreal. The next day, we were out in the debris field and we find a piece of the metal. And when we were filming in the debris field, I've seen this before, brand new batteries in the camera. Brand new batteries, right? So we're, it's Chuck Sikowsky, Frank Kimber, and yours truly. And I'm interviewing these guys.

And Gil and Jim Peterson, Gilles are my men. Jim Peters were filming. Both of them go, oh my gosh, hold on, guys, cut, cut. Batteries completely drained. Completely drained. Gee, I wonder why. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that's, Karen earlier today was talking about similar things that happened around her. Yeah. So that's so, all right. So obviously that whole scene holds a special place in your heart. Now, of all the things that you've covered over the years, From your perspective, observing its impact on the world, has there been any one to, whether it's a topic or story, that you feel really had a profound,

more of a profound impact than other things have that you've covered? Well, I mean, there's, the three that come to mind is the removal of a meal's implant, which shows the physicality of the UFO phenomena and shows the abduction. phenomena completely. It validates everybody's experience. And then our studies of all that, you know, the implants and what they are.

I believe that they are prototypes to the mark of the beast. Okay. That's what I think they are. So you've got Amel's implant removal, which is huge. Obviously, our piece of metal coming out of the Roswell site. And then the Khrmberg has UFO. We've already talked about that, that Dr. Roger Lear filmed. Yeah.

I mean, which shows the great. I mean, you've got physicality, you've got hardcore evidence. I mean, when I started talking about implants, we already kind of covered this. I was laughed at. Nobody believed it. Yeah. The moment we took that thing out on film, silence, career. And there's no entry wound.

There's no entry wound there. It's just how did it get in there? Just like Linda Milton Howard, Chuck Tchaalkowski talks about, you know, the heart coming out of a cow. But the paracordia of the sack around the heart is still intact. How do they do that? Or Karen, when you go up to the window and you hover there for a little bit, and you feel your body tingle, then you go through. Yeah.

We're not making this up, folks. Yeah, we're talking about a very advanced technology. Very advanced technology. That when you look back at Egypt and other places, you say, there's remnants. There's remnants of it. Yeah. L.A. man, I appreciate you hopping here tonight. Really fun.

Wasn't that fun? I think it was fun. I think it was fun, too. Yeah. But tell me where they can get your stuff so that. Yeah. L.A. Marzoli.com, streaming. at L.A.mazili.com.

All 34 films are there. Rungsof Disclosure.com. The rungs are going up. I'm on YouTube, the L.A. Marzili. All social network. L.A. Marzoli, I'm all over the place. We do a show five days a week Monday through Friday. So there you go.

I almost didn't, but I was like, I should let him tell people. I was thinking, who doesn't know? But you never know. Maybe there's a new person on the block, right? There you go. But I appreciate it being out here. Thanks, Tony.

Awesome. Fist bump. All right. All right. Cut scene. Closure. They call it disqualure. Closure. Closure. They call it disclosure. That's cute.

All you're in a position, masks on. Lights up. Let them look up. They call it disclosure. Lights blink. Move slow. Masks on. Ships low. Let them film what we show. One little leap. One little clip. Truth in a fake. Truth in a fake. Now watch them take bait.

Take to debate. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. That's what we say. Give us permission. Give us permission. Give us permission. Get out the way. Are the ships in position? Position. Are the masks prepared? Do they think we came to save them? They're scared. Will they open the gate? Will they give us control? They will. Will they call it disclose? No tanks. No guns. Too late. Too late. They, they, they, they. Call it disclosure. We call it delude. Disclosure, babe.