The Confessionals - 9: The Emergency Exorcist

Episode Date: March 19, 2017

In Episode 9, Brian shares stories of the supernatural, and he describes scenes he witnessed when his mother was called upon to pray for people possessed by demons. Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Outro Instrumental: Artist: PnR Productions Song: High Life

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They're staying in the shadows. It's called Probe. Make sure things are all clean. Clear for water. For the rest of the rest. You guys hear that? Welcome to the show, everyone. I'm your host, Tony, and I am glad that you're here.

And I'm glad to be here. This week was rough for me at work. Many of you know I drive track to trailer Monday through Friday. And this week, in the Northeast, we got dumped on with about 40 inches of snow in some areas. Now, my area didn't get hit that hard. I think about eight to nine inches of snow, but, man, I tell you, about five inches of that was probably sleet. I woke up on Tuesday morning. I just heard sleet smacking my window, and I just knew right there I was not going to work. And, you know, so I spent the day on Tuesday just cleaning the driveway and things like that,

which wasn't bad at all. But, you know, Wednesday comes and you need to get back to work and driving the aftermath. And I get to my first delivery, and the gate was closed. Now, they were there. but the gate was actually closed. So I'm ringing the doorbell. Nobody's answering. It's a huge warehouse. I'm talking, this place was absolutely huge. It took me about five minutes to walk around it because nobody was answering, so I had to go through the front door. And so I'm going through the warehouse and I'm talking to the employees and they said, yeah, absolutely, we'll open the gate for you, no problem. And by the time we got outside on the other side of the gate, the gate was already semi-opened. And, you know, I said to the guy, thanks, man, I really appreciate it. And I walked over the gate and I started opening it. Now, the gate was,

open inwards towards the yard. So it wasn't going to be opening towards my truck. It was going to actually open the opposite direction in towards the yard that I was pulling into. And so I started opening the gate nice and easy. And all of a sudden I heard somebody yell at me, yo, stop opening the gate. And I turn around and this guy said, they opened the other way. I said, all right. So I started opening it the other way. And once it got parallel with the rest of the fence, it wouldn't open any further. And so I looked back at him as he was walking up to me. And I said, man, you're going to have to open this up because I don't know what you're talking about. And so he comes over and he says that the plow company actually messed up the gate. And he told me that I forced the gate open the wrong way.

And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't force anything open the wrong way. And so I had to call my safety department just to let them know what happened. So they knew that I wasn't not reporting something that happened and that I was not at fault. And so, you know, that all worked out okay. And I moved on. You know, I went on with my day. After that stop, I'm driving. to the next delivery. And all of a sudden, I start smelling this antifreeze. I'm thinking, where's that antifreeze coming from? And I get to a red light and I'm stopped. And all of a sudden, I start noticing smoke surrounding my truck. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. And so I found a safe spot to pull over. And I pull over and I open up the hood and all this smoke, white smoke

just comes pouring out from underneath the hood. And I'm like, you've got to be stinking kidding me. I smelled the antifreeze real strong. It sprayed everywhere. I had no idea where it was leaking. So I called my terminal. I told them what happened that I broke down. And they said, okay, well, call safety. So I call safety again.

And I tell them what's going on. And they get me in touch with the tow truck company. And the tow truck company decided to go to my terminal and pick up another truck for me to bring it to me so I could switch it. And so I'm sitting there for about an hour. Now, keep in mind, I lost my antifreeze. So I don't have any. heat in my truck. It's about 23 degrees outside with about 20 mile per hour winds. And so it's cold out.

And I have no heat in the truck. And it's getting colder and colder by the minute. And so they said, okay, we're going to send the tow truck company out. The tow truck company comes, picks up a truck for me, and they're on the way to drop it off to me. And it turns out another driver broke down that actually had time sensitive deliveries on his trailer. So they actually had to turn around and take the truck they bringing to me to the other driver. And so it delayed the whole process because they had to go back to the terminal, pick up another truck and bring it to me. All in all, I spent about four hours in my truck with no heat. And by the time it was all done, I was freezing. You can see my breath. And if you're, if you follow me on Instagram, you actually get to see a video that I shot with me breathing in my

truck and you see the, the cold air coming out of my mouth. It was, it was pretty insane. I couldn't feel my toes. I couldn't feel my knees. But the tow truck finally comes, gives me the truck, and I switch over to that truck, and I hook it up to the trailer, and I'm on my way. I finished my last delivery, and they sent me two different pickups I had to go do. And I get to my last pickup, and it's really tight because, I wouldn't say it's really tight, but just it was more tight because of the snow mounds all around the parking lot. And so I'm backing into this one door, and I actually, my front driver's side of my truck rolls over a snow mound. Now, it's not a big deal. I mean, many of you drive cars and you probably run over snow mounds in your car. No big deal. And, you know, I thought the same thing with my

truck, you know, it's a big tractor trailer. And so, you know, I roll over it and I back in and no problem. I get back to my terminal that night and I'm doing a post trip, making sure that the truck is okay, the trailer's okay. And, excuse me. And I noticed that on the front driver's side of, you know, my truck, the front bumper was cracked. And it wasn't an old crack. It was a new fresh crack. And I'm thinking of myself, what happened? Like, I didn't remember hitting anything. And then it hit me. I rolled over that snow mound. And with it being so cold out, it probably wasn't a snow mound, but an ice mound. And so when I rolled over it, it cracked the bumper. And I was like, man. So I called safety again. So I'm on the phone with safety all day long. Now, you don't want to be on the phone with

safety. That's not ideal as a truck driver. And to be on the phone with safety three different times in one day, that's just not what you want to do. But I call safety again and I tell them what happened. I take pictures and I send it to them and I fill out my incident report and I hand it into the boss and all that stuff. And I'm like, man, that was a bad day. And that was Wednesday. And then Thursday comes. And on Thursday, we were down some trucks, you know, because all the trucks are breaking down and, you know, some drivers were hitting some things. I wasn't the only one. There was other drivers hitting snow mounds, too. It was just one of those weeks. And so I actually go in on Thursday, and I actually had to go to a truck rental place and pick up a rental truck that I was going to be driving that day because

we just didn't have enough trucks at the terminal. So I get this rental truck, and I said to the guy, when I was, you know, looking it over and making sure everything is good before I pull out, I said, man, they make these trucks with these plastic bumpers, man, they're so fragile. You know, right there, you know I jinx myself. I get to my first stop and I do the delivery. I come back out to my truck. And if you know anything about tractor trailers and stuff, they have what's called an air ride seat. And it's pretty much like an office chair where you can kind of go up and down with the air pressure. Well, tractor trailers have the same thing. So it provides a more comfortable ride because if you don't have that air ride, every bump you hit, it's going to, you know, shake you around. It's going to

hurt your back and, you know, you're going to have back problems after a while. So I get in my truck and all of a sudden I sit down in my truck and the seat sinks all down to the floor. Like I lost all air in it. I'm thinking, huh, that's weird. So I hit the button to increase the air pressure and it's not going up. And I'm like, oh, man. And so I was, you know, I'm stuck. I'm stuck there with a truck that I'm sitting so low. You can't see the front of the hood. And I figured, all right, well, I'm just going to drive it like. I'm just going to drive it like this and, you know, it's uncomfortable to drive like that, but it's manageable, you know, it's not, not safe. And so I continue with my run. And this first run that I had only had two stops on,

I figured I'll just do the second delivery and go back to the terminal and see what happens. Well, I get to the second delivery and I've been there a million times and I start backing into the door and because I can't see the front of my truck, I have a hard time judging the distance between the front of my truck, and you guessed it. The snow mounds, the ice mound right in front of my truck. And, you know, I know I'm close, but, you know, it is what it is. You got to get the truck in the door. And so I'm backing up and all of a sudden I hear this, and I was like, oh, no, I just scrape that ice mound. And so in the back of my, I continue backing up and I get into the door, and I get into the door, I get out of the truck. And I'm thinking to myself, before I look at it, I'm just like,

I'm praying. I'm like, God, please, no damage, please. I don't want to call safety again. Just let it be, you know, some little scraping on ice. No big deal. I walk around and the driver's side is fine. And as I turn my head and I look at the passenger side, half the bumper is hanging off. And I was just like, you got to be kidding. I just looked at it and I was just like, it's one of those moments where you're not even surprised. You're just like, yep, that's how my week is going. So I go inside and I tell them that I had a delivery form. It was like half a trailer load. So it takes some time to unload that. And I asked the fellow, before we started unloading me, I said, do you have anything in here that I can use to tie up my bumper out front? And he's looking around. And I'm thinking they should

definitely have something because it's a wire company. That's what they do. They sell wire, spools of wire. I'm thinking they got to have some kind of junk wire. They didn't have any junk wire. He looks in the trash and he finds this little rope that barely had enough life on it. And so I go out there and I string it up and I tie the bumper and hang it from the mirror on the front of the truck. And I'm thinking, well, I hope this holds, you know, because I got to drive about half hour, 45 minutes back to my terminal. And with it shaking up and down while you're driving, I hope that the plastic wasn't going to saw through the rope. Because if that happened, I don't know what I would do. But, you know, so I tie it up and I call safety and tell them, hey, it's me again. And I took out

another bumper. And the lady said, she's like, you're having one of those weeks, aren't you? And I said, yeah, I'm telling you. Like, you know, I don't know what, you know, it's just silly things. It's not like I'm doing anything unsafe. I was driving careful, you know, and it's just when you get to the location, it's the small little things. It's always the small little things that get you. And so I tell her and I send her pictures, I get back to the terminal and I tell them. And I went out driving that truck like that for the rest of the day. They gave me a bungee cord to help hold it up so that just in case that rope sawed through, it wouldn't fall on me.

But yeah, I mean, that was my week. And Friday came and they actually put me in a small truck, those little box trucks, I call them the ice cream trucks. I don't like driving them. They beat you out. They shake you around real hard. But they put me in that truck. And I was thinking, I know they're not doing it on purpose because of what happened earlier this week because we're busy and all that stuff.

But I was just thought, it's kind of ironic. And I probably could use a break anyway. So I took it gladly. And I went through my day yesterday and everything went pretty well. So I was happy with that. And even this morning, I had to wake up real early and go to the DMV where the Department of Motor Vehicle, where you go and do your thing with the license and all that. Well, I had to go get a physical this morning to renew my metal. local card for work and that took about an hour and a half, two hours. Then I had to go to the DMV

to register it with the state and that took like two or three hours. So to get a physical and register with the state, which when I was actually doing those things combined, it took maybe 40 minutes, but waiting in the lines took about five hours in total. So I'm thinking, man, like this just stinks. Like I just want to go home and record the show and, you know, relax. And it's just, it's been a mess. But I'm glad that the week has been. behind me. I'm so glad it's behind me. And I'm looking forward to just doing this today, you know, recording and putting the show out for you guys so you can enjoy it. And before we actually get into the interview, I actually want to announce the winner of the contest we were doing

this week. Now, the contest, if you didn't listen to the last week's show, you have no idea what I'm talking about. But Lindsay was on with me last week, and she announced that we were going to to a contest, a contest, that pretty much all you had to do was on either Facebook or Twitter or both, share the website, www. www.comfessionalspodcast.com. If you shared that website and you hashtagged it theconfessionalspodcast.com, you were in the running to win a book. The book is called a field guide to Sasquatch Structures by Christopher Noel. And like I said last week, this book, it's just a fun book to have in your backpack when you're hiking around if you're into the Bigfoot thing.

You know, many of you know I am. And if you're into that and you're into going out in the woods and hiking and just exploring and seeing if you can find any signs of Bigfoot, this is such a great book because it's a simple read and it's the 50 most common types in North America, Sasquatch, structures. And so it has pictures with everything in small little descriptions. It's an easy read. And it's just a fun book to have while you're out in the woods. So when you see something, you can kind of refer to and see if you can find it in the book anywhere, you know? Now, the winner of this book is Kevin A from Twitter. His Twitter handle is KJG Adams. And he did the

submission and we did the drawing earlier this morning. And And his name came out of the hat. And so, Kevin, you are the winner of this book. And we will be contacting you to see where we can send it to. And congratulations, man. I really hope you enjoy it. I have my own copy of it after I was borrowing my buddy's copy. And so, you know, I enjoy it.

And I really hope you enjoy it too. Christopher Noel knows that this competition is going on. And he was very excited to hear that we were going to be giving one of his books away to a lucky listener. So Christopher Noel knows, and he's really excited that you're going to have that book as well. So let's get to the interview tonight. Tonight's interview is with Brian, and Brian shared some stories that he remember from his childhood, where his mom was called in to deal with demonic, the best I can describe is demonic possession of two individuals at two separate times.

And he shares those stories today, and I'm telling you, these stories, stories are jaw-dropping. The things that his mom saw, the things that he saw, I just, man, I loved reading the email I got for Brian, and I knew I had to have him on the show. And when I got a hold of him and I started hearing it in person while he's telling the stories while we're recording, I was just like, man, this is going to be such a great show. So I'm really excited to share this show with you guys. And I hope you enjoy it. Without any further delay, let's get to it. Hey, Brian, how you doing, man?

Good. How are you? I'm doing good, man. I really appreciate reaching out to me and talking to me through email for a little bit and stuff. Who's a delight, to say the least. I was reading your email. And what you shared with me in email, I was thinking, man, I just, I got to hear this guy's story because it was just so unique. And so I figured I'd give you a call tonight and do this interview and see, you know, how things go. So what I want to do is just kind of let you walk us into the story you'd like to share with

us and, you know, let the audience know what happened. Okay. So, well, I grew up, you know, in New Jersey, central Jersey. And I was, I was, you know, my mother was watching me when, you know, I think I was probably about like, like, six. maybe seven years old. And my mother had a friend who she would hang out with. She would pray with and read the Bible with and whatnot. You know, she was one of her church friends. And one day, she got a call from her friend, her friend's name is Susan.

And she said, Pat, that's my mother's name. She said, Pat, get over here right away. as you can. So, you know, my mom had to get over there to see what was going on. I don't think she told her anything else besides, you know, just to come over. So, um, I think, yeah, my father was in her. So she, she took me along with her. Now it was about like five blocks away, but we, we drove over there. And my mom, you know, just walked in because she's, you know, was accustomed to just, you know, walking in Jane High. And I walked in right behind her.

And now straight ahead was the, was like the living room, and then behind it was like the kitchen area. Up, like when you open the front door to the right was the stairwell going up to the second floor. Now, my mother's friend was like in the kitchen area where the living room started to begin. and up on the right on the stairwell was this uh her daughter she was probably like 17 i think at the time i would guess and uh she was like you know sitting down like with her head look you know like uh like above the banister above the handrail she was cursed she was like cursing at her mother like you know like screaming at her and cursing at her. And when I

looked at her, you know, suddenly you know, like I noticed, first I noticed her, but then when she started cursing, I really caught my attention, you know, a little kid that I'm not used to that kind of language. And I look over and I see something, hey, it was like

black and white and it was like hazy. It was like, it was like semi-translucent. And, um, What it was was, it was like a head. And it had like this long, like, scraggly, like, hair, long hair, like sticking up everywhere. And it had, and it had like black, black eyes. Like where their eyes were, there was, like, no eyes.

It was just, like, black circles. What really, really got me. What really caught my attention was her mouth, this thing. what it was, but the daughter's mouth was moving, and this thing's mouth was moving in perfect unison to whenever she would, like, you know, curse or say something, the mouth of this thing. I would call it a demon. I don't know what it was. To me, it was just so repulsed, it was disgusting.

I would call it a demon. I don't know. along with the girl's mouth. And so I caught that, I caught a glimpse of that about maybe like six seconds. And then my mom, what is the ball? And she said, Brian, go wait outside. So she, you know, pushed the door open. And, you know, they had a regular door, heavy door.

And then on the outside, they had a screen door. And this was like, I guess, first of the time, and I can hear what was going on. And I can vaguely see, you know, because it wasn't like that bright in there. There wasn't a lot of lights on. But anyway, I was listening. And my mom was like, she's like, so, Susan, what do we have here? And my mom says, oh, Amy's got a little company. I guess, you know, we can say, you know, her daughter was named was Amy.

And this thing was just wasn't looking at, I remember it wasn't looking at me. It wasn't looking at my mom. You know, when we weren't, when I was inside, it was focused on the daughter's mother. Both of their eyes were set on her. So anyway, after I was done, outside, my, and they began to pray for, you know, for the daughter, Amy. And I guess, you know, my mother was a, you know, grew up as a, I'm sorry, she didn't grew up. She, she became a Christian. And they started, they started to pray against it, you

know, like, pray against, you know, this thing, like, you know, it's got to leave, you know, in the name of Jesus. It's got, you know, he has. no authority to be there. It went on for probably about 20, 25 minutes. I can't really remember 100%. And she's the daughter. I just remember that Amy, the daughter started getting like louder and loud. She was like screaming and that it got to the point. I don't know whether the head went away or not because it stormed upstairs into her bedroom and slammed the door. And you can just here, you know, still screaming and yelling and banging things. You know, thrown stuff around, whatever.

But I know that later on, like, when, I think she was like, Amy, the daughter, like, she probably was about, like, 18, 19, 20, 21, somewhere around there. I don't remember. She ended up becoming a prostitute. She was, you know, a, you know, a IV drug user. heroin addict and she eventually caught HIV and then AIDS and she died, you know, at like 21, 22 years old. So I don't know, you know, I don't know what happened, really what that was, but that was the first and only time in my life that I've ever seen anything like supernatural. Like, you know, I can't think of anything else in my life that I've ever seen in that.

That just, like, it just shook me, you know? And it's like I asked my mom about it. I remember asking my mom about it. And she was like, oh, Amy has with her spirit. She said, you know, I forgot about it after a little while. And then throughout the years, I would bring it up to my mom. And, you know, she was just like to fill me in with a little bit more facts here and there, like, about her life.

style and how she died and stuff like that. And also, there was another, I don't know, I just remember this story right now. I guess it was just okay. I can say this was later. I remember this. This is like probably a couple years later. I was friends with the youngest daughter. Her name is Jenny.

Me and her were pretty good friends. And my mom and my mother in her. Susan, her friend, had this woman come over, and she wanted deliverance or something like that. From what I don't know, she wanted prayer of deliverance. So she, her little, she told us to go upstairs to my parents and the other lady's parents. I mean, the other lady told her son for all three of us to go up to Jenny's room, the youngest, her youngest daughter's room. You know, I had no clue what was going on.

My mother told me this, like, maybe like five years ago. They started to pray for this woman, and she was in a rocking chair in the room. They started to pray for her and pray, I guess, I guess, against whatever was keeping her, you know, like captive or, you know, I can't really explain. Basically, and my mother told me that the room got ice cold, was able to see her breath. and it started to build up like a, you know, crescendo. And it got to the point where this lady's rocking chair started to spin in circles. And at the same time, her young son was upstairs with us

in, you know, in the room. He started like, he started like acting out. I remember that. He started like acting out. He started like trying to beat up on Jenny, the girl. and he was like you know like in her and a head with like a one of those like

car racetracks you know there was like a hard plastic you like picked it up and beating her head I was a little bit older I grabbed he was like her like growling and you know going nuts

and I'm like what the heck going you know I'm yelling down to my mom um whatever his name is he's uh he's you know misbehaving or whatever. And my mom was like, just hold on, all right?

Hold on. We're almost done or something like that. We'll be done. We'll be out of here in a little bit soon. And I just remember he like pulled. I remember the one thing. She had a wardrobe and he pulled this wardrobe. I'm like, you know.

And my mom, you know, I didn't know what happened because I was young. But later, like I said, my mother told me. me what happened. She said that they prayed for her and I guess uh because I don't want to say it was an exorcism because you know I don't think it really was but they just prayed for deliverance I guess and whatever was there let go let it let it let it's grip and um and that was that like it just got you know she said it got warmer back in the room it got warmer again and uh she said oh you know I feel better I think that was it and then I just remember, I just remember what was going on upstairs in the room.

I didn't know what happened, you know, downstairs. I don't know. After that was at as far as I know, I think when, yeah, my mom said that the woman was like a witch or something like that. And she was trying to get out of it, get out of the witchcraft or something. And that was, yeah, that's the other story that just came to mind. Yeah, there was a dispute to, I remember. Yeah. Even though the second one, I didn't see it happen.

I just remember the little boy was going crazy, you know? Yeah. And attacking the girl. But, yeah, I don't know. That's incredible, actually. Yeah. You know, all right, so let's start with the most recent story you just shared with me. Yeah.

So this lady, she was a witch? Yeah. If I can remember, yeah, I remember, yeah, my mom said she was, she was getting, I don't know if she was a witch or she was really into witchcraft and she didn't, she was getting scared or something like that and she didn't want to be involved in it anymore. Because she, my mother's friend, she just became a Christian and she was, prior to that, she was involved with some, you know, know, a cult and witch girl, but she was involved with you of cult. And after she, you know, became a Christian, you know, she would still get calls from her old friends. And old friend, yeah, said that she wanted to stop. Okay, so this lady was involved in the occult. She got out of the occult. And since then, she has had friends that wanted to do the same thing. And this lady

that came over to the house was one of those people. Yeah, yeah. Okay. She no longer wanted to be involved with the occult as well. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah.

That's how she knew her. I'm pretty sure that's how it was, yeah. And now it sounds almost like whatever had a hold of that lady also had a hold of her son. Yes. Because when you started telling me that, one of the things I started thinking of was it almost sounded like whatever was going on

wanted the sun to distract to stop what was happening downstairs. Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's it yeah that's a good way of putting it. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. It totally does. It's like you know yeah, they the kids you know that whatever's yeah got a hold on her and possibly most most possibly hence Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, like to take the focus off of what they're doing with her. Right.

You know, this kid, yeah. Yeah. Do you know if this lady was married at all? Um, which one? The second story? Yeah, yeah, the second story, the one where her sounds upstairs with you. Yeah, I'm not quite sure. I'm not sure.

Okay. Because I would just be interested to know, you know, whoever was living with her, if they all had the same thing happened to them at that. moment or if it was just her and her son because of what was happening there at the house. Right. I imagine that. I think it happened somewhere else as well. That'd be pretty incredible. Yeah, it would.

So, okay, so you're, the first story you shared with us, where was the head? Now, I'm assuming the head was floating. It wasn't sitting on something. It was floating. No, it was, it was transparent. Yeah, it was like semi-transparent And it was like It was like Mostly a grayish color

But it also had black Like where Especially where I remember where the eyes were In the nose It was like a pointy, Pointy nose Like long and pointed nose And when the nostrils were

It was like black And it had I forgot the much It had teeth Like the teeth froze they were like always being there you know and they were like real pointy and dirty like real dirty black like looking and real sharp real sharp like pointy teeth you know somewhere longer than others you know it was just so disgusting so scary was it was it growling is that why i was showing his

teeth uh no it just it's just it's like the lips were like pulled back like the bottom and the top. It's like they were like, like, I don't know how to describe it. Like they were pulled back. Like there isn't much flesh to cover the lips. And the head, the head of this thing was right. It was, let's see.

It was on her left shoulder right next. There was nothing else. It was just her, that head next to hers floating. The head, the direct. The direction of the head was in the same direction as. Gotcha. Yeah, I mean, I remember it didn't have art, like, odd balls. It was just, like, black, like, circles kind of.

And, yeah, it was just, like, creepy. Yeah, it was so creepy. And it was just, I was shocked. It was more shocked. Like, I didn't know what it was. No, I'm like six, seven. I had no idea what it was. I just knew that it was scary looking.

and it didn't make sense to me but it was like you know it was daytime you know the sun was coming in through the windows there was a couple lights on I remember that was just the hair I remember it was like all over the place

in every direction and it was gray the hair was gray it was just it was to me it was as if there was like lots of like gel in it or something you know like gel you know like or their product.

It hardens, and it was like that. But the hair was like long and sticking out in every which direction. It was like held in place, like a hair gel or something. I don't know. It's just so weird. So it wasn't like static hair. It was more like almost like somebody took clumps of hair and jelled it together and spiked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was very bizarre. I don't know. I wish I could draw it. My mom, she got the best, you know, the best view. She probably even got closer to it, you know, and stuff like that. Sure. Collaborate with me, like what we both saw. And it was, you know, it was pretty much the same thing, you know.

We came to the same ideas or what we saw. We came to the same conclusion, you know. Yeah. So, all right, so this face, when you're looking at it, I'm, are you looking at something that is more human looking, or was it more almost like, because I mean, the way you're describing with the pointing nose

and the teeth that were more pointed, did it have more like a, almost like a, like a troll face? Because in my head, that's what I'm kind of almost picturing, like almost like a troll. Or did it distinctly look like a human face? It had the full, like, outline, I guess you could say, you know?

Like, it was like a human face, like the definition of the thing. it had like a forehead. It had, I guess, I don't remember ears, but it had like a jaw, you know, and it had a chin, I remember. I can't remember the ear. It was like kind of staticky looking, like transparent yet opaque at the same time,

but also like flickery too. I don't know if I want to actually say it like, like if it was like the snow on the television set, it really wasn't like staticky like that, but it was like, it wasn't like, like, uh, sort of being seen at all the time.

Like, like parts would kind of like fade in and out, like kind of. It wouldn't go, and no parts would disappear, but it would just like become more transparent. And then it would go opaque, you know?

Yeah, kind of like on a Photoshop program when you can kind of change the transparent. on the image. Yes, yes. Yes. Gotcha. So it's something like that.

Gotcha. So you could still see it, but it just was, times it was more transparent than others. Yeah, yeah. You said the face kept its,

I guess, its stare on this girl's mom, right? Yeah, because it's like that one, what it basically what it was like

was whoever the daughter was talking to or had its, you know, fixation on, fixation upon, that's the direction this face would also face. It was like, it was, yeah, it was like that because it didn't even look at me when I, or my mom or my mother when we first came in the whole entire time it was, it was looking at her mother and cursing, just cursing her out, you know, like giving her, like, giving her like, you know, a real hard time. You know, I'm not going to repeat it, but on her mom.

And it's like, to me, the way I looked at it was like providing her, like, with the words to say, you know? Like she was possessed. Yeah, kind of, yeah. I mean, that's what it sounds like to me. I mean, when you're, when you're describing what you're describing, it sounds like somebody that's the best of possessed. I've never heard of, you know, like, almost like an.

astro projection of something that's possessing something. Like, I've only ever heard of, like, say somebody's possessed, that the demon is inside the person possessing their body. I've never heard of a demon being on the outside, but still possessing the body at the same time. And that, that I find really interesting. Yeah, me too. Me too.

When you guys showed up, her mom, was her mom in the room with her, or was her mom kind of like in a different room. She was like I said, like when you first walk in, there's the living room and then a little bit further back, there's like a little doorway to the kitchen area. And the phone, I remember their phone was in the kitchen area. I guess, you know, when we got it, when we got there, she was coming kind of like, she was actually like in the doorway of the kitchen. And then she fully came out of the kitchen and went into the,

living the room. She didn't, she didn't sit down, though. She stood up the whole time. Who would, right? Yeah, I know, right? Cup of tea. That's nuts, man. Yeah, so she just, like, stood there.

I just remember my mom's, like, you know, when we came in. See, my, sorry, let me go back. My mother didn't expect this to be there, so she took me with her, you know, because it was just such a quick phone call. My mom said that, you know, she said, Pat, come on over. Looks like, uh, looks like, uh, Amy had some company. You know, that's just like, I guess like a slang or lingo for, you know, somebody's got, you know, the demon or something like that.

So, you know, my mom didn't expect it to be, like, manifesting itself. like, you know, visually. So my mom brought me with the, plus my father, like I said, my father wasn't home to watch me. So, yeah. Let me ask you. Now, in both stories you shared tonight, your mom was a key person in these stories. Was your mom actively pursuing, rebuking spirits? She was bold.

Like, I remember maybe. Let's see. She said she became, she was Catholic. And then after she met my father, my father was a big Baptist. I don't know. In his family, she decided to become a Christian. And I guess so it's been, it was like seven years, I guess, since I was born. She was like into prayer, going to prayer groups and stuff like that.

And she would meet people, you know, and she'd pray with people. And so like I said, she met. this woman, and this woman, it seems like this woman had had a lot of, you know, in her life. And we'd call my mom. And my mom, we'd just, being my mom, she would, sure, yeah, I'll come over. Let's pray, you know, or, okay, yeah, let's handle this. So, yeah, my mom, you know, at the time was, I guess, been called, you know, for that. I don't know if she's ever been any, I don't know if she's ever had any other situations or not.

I know, you know, she's other things and, you know, people being healed and whatnot, you know. Yeah. But, yeah. So, all right, so let me ask you, I was going to ask you if this girl was messing with anything that could have brought this on. but let me redirect that question into two parts. Was the girl messing with something, but also was her mom messing with anything that you knew of? Well, I think her mother at one point was, like I said, I think she might have been involved with the occult. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure.

And that's, you know, got out of it and started going to a women's, prayer group or something like that. And that's how my mother met her. She was always rebellious, always rebellious, you know, growing up probably would be, I think she was probably, you know, I can't say for sure, but I think she would probably be messing, you know, around with the occult as well or maybe some Ouija board action or whatever, you know. But I know that she was using drugs.

and that was a that was a definite yes you know definite with that so I know you know they say that you know people

you know mess with drugs especially like hard you know hard hard hard drugs especially like you know kind of wind

or crack can open you know open the door because you know you don't have you don't have a grip on your life

and you know in easy access or something to come into your life dealing with you you you know playing with the occult, I don't see why that, you know, wouldn't it be a problem for something to remember my mother, like, you know, because like over the years I would add, I would, you know, I always, I've always been interested in, you know, whatever, you know, and as time went on, I, I seem to be getting more than, like, 20 or 20. As far as I know, her younger sister is from the last time I remember talking to her, which is probably like 10 years ago. She was doing fine. She was doing well. Well. So let me ask you, when you were in the house when you first got there,

did you notice the room was cold? Because you mentioned how the room was cold before and the other house later on. Yeah. Yeah. I can't say. I wish I could say it was, but I don't remember, you know. I remember like I was like, it was like, you know, my mom, she went up to the door first, opened the door, walked in, I walked in, I walked in. I walked in. right behind her. And, you know, I looked at my right and I didn't notice anything at first. And then as soon, you know, and cursing, you know, like my done end or you just get that, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the other one, the other, yeah, the second story, the second one, definitely the whole, I remember the whole, the whole entire house was even, even upstairs.

I remember. I was like, what? You know, it was summer. You know, they didn't have air conditioning. And I remember saying, well, I was so cold. And my mom, I kept wanting to go downstairs because I didn't want to be in the room with this kid. He was driving me nuts. And I remember my mother kept telling me, Brian, go upstairs, go upstairs, stay in Jenny's church.

Stay in January 2, stay in January 2. And I went on probably for like an hour. And that, yeah, that was cold and that was very. So do you know what happened to the head? Does your mom ever tell you how that whole thing ended? Um, yeah, she said that after they were praying for her, she, it just, it didn't have any effect, you know? And, uh, I, I know that the girl just was like, you know, a few, whatever, and just got up and walked upstairs to her, to her room and slammed the door. and I remember I was outside and I can hear her screaming and slamming, you know, slamming stuff, breaking stuff.

But I don't know if the head followed her up or if it just disappeared or not. I'm going to have to ask about that, actually. Yeah, I'm just, I'm sitting here thinking, okay, so he said the girl left in an angry mess. Did the head go with her? Did the head just stay there staring at mom? Did it disappear? Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh. I mean, it's bad enough that you have a, that there's some kind of demonic head sitting next to your daughter in her mouth. You know? And it's looking at you. Yeah. Oh, boy.

My mom, I just got to say, my mother, never been scared of that stuff. I don't know why. She's got such, you know, I got faith or whatever. I'm scared of. I'm scared of, you know, ghosts and all that. But my mom, she's like, it's nothing, you know. Yeah.

Did your interest, did your interest in all these topics and stuff, because you said you're interested in all this stuff, did it come from these experiences? Uh, I guess you could say partly, you know? Or, you know, like, I just, I've, always had a I think that actually might have sparked the fear that I've always had

growing up like I growing up like you know since then or as a kid I would always be scared of like like you know the closet or you know something like say you get into bed and you don't you feel like something's going to grab your ankle as you get into bed so I'd run and jump into bed you know like as a kid and even as an adult

like it's just something like I I don't ever want to see you know and people have like all these stories interesting you know as long as it's not me right I'm okay but I I think it's just very really interesting whether it be you know Sasquots or or you know the parodologies you know not everything but some of them I think they're very interesting stuff Yeah, cryptids, I just always have been interested in it. You know, it's like, how does this happen? Like, you know. What's your favorite cryptid topic to dive into?

Can I say Sasquatch? Of course. I mean, because that's, to me, the one that I think would be, you know, I think that one has the most chance of being real. Yeah, definitely. I can't think of anything else at the top of my head. Like, you know, I'm from the Jersey, the Jersey devil. I don't know about that.

But, yeah, Sasquatch, yeah, I mean, some of the evidence and some of the stories I hear, like, you know, um, um, Sasquatch Chronicles, for, you know, for instance, it's just some of these stories, it's like, wow, you know, who can make this stuff up, you know? Right. And some of the, you know, the evidence I've seen. like all this, you know, foot impressions. And then you got Dr. Melchum explaining, like, you know, the footprint and, you know, the mid-tarsal break or whatever.

You know, those, the physiology of the way a footprint is made by a certain animal. And it's just like, wow. That's asked to be, you know, true or something, you know. Yeah, there's just so much evidence out there. Yeah. Now, I mean, there's tons of people that say, if it's real, why don't we have pictures that are clear or clear video? And I often say, I don't know because I just don't know. But, you know, that aside, there are a lot of physical evidences that are out there, you know. And so, yeah, there, you know, obviously I've said on previous shows, Sasquatch is something that's a big interest of mine. So, Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's cool, man. So let me ask you, kind of rewining here a little bit.

And you may not know the answer to this, but I just want to ask you, you said that your mom had experienced other things like miracles. Did she ever tell you any of the things that she saw? Let's see. I remember one time this woman, what did she have? She had not cerebral palsy, but something like it. And this, she had it for about 25 years, I would say. And she couldn't, you know, she couldn't walk, you know, normally. You know, I forget what it was.

I don't know what the disease was, but, but, uh, a, it was at her, at her, she was going through, this was back in, I think, 2005 or six. friends, I guess you could say, at church where we're praying for her. You know, of course, they've always been praying for her, but, but just this, I think it was before the church started or whatever, they were praying for her, you know, to, for God to heal her. And no joke, this woman, like, who, who had this, you know, deformity or whatever, she got healed.

She, today, she's still fine, like, and it happens, you know, in an instant, like, It didn't, it wasn't just like gradual, you know? It happened like, and she was able to walk without having to hold on to anybody or anything around her, you know? She wasn't, she was kind of like her movements were jerky and whatnot. And, and like when she was walking, it looks so like she was walking like a normal person, like smoother, you know? Yeah. And I, that was, for me, that's what I, I didn't see it happen. I knew her before this happened for years.

And I saw her after day, she was healed. That was the one thing I can remember. But she's got a lot of stories, you know, from over the years. Yeah, I'm sure. Since the 70s, you know? Yeah. She's got a lot on them. But I couldn't believe that.

I was like, wow, you know. Sounds like your mom is somebody I want to talk to as well. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, I was thinking about that. I was like, man, you know what? I was like, yeah, maybe my mom should be the one tonight. Well, we could always do a sequel show. Yeah, definitely, definitely.

No, I asked that question because my grandfather was kind of like a traveling evangelist on weekends years ago, long, long time ago. And on his deathbed, he shared with me some stories of how. he would pray for people and there would be healing involved and things like that. Kind of like what you were describing. And I actually, this is years ago. I mean, I want to say it was probably six years ago at least when this happened. But, you know, he's telling me these stories in the hospital one night. And so the next night I came back with an audio recorder.

And I recorded him telling me these stories. And so I have these stories on audio that I'm actually going to release these stories as part of one of my episodes, I'm just waiting for the right episode. So maybe, you know, maybe one day, you know, I'll talk to somebody that wants to share, you know, there's stories of experiences with miracles and stuff, and I can kind of plug my grandfather's audio into that episode. Yeah. But I got about 15 minutes worth of stories that he shared before he died.

So it's pretty cool. Oh, that's great, bro. Yeah. That'd be a great episode, you know? Yeah, it'd be fun. Yeah, like you said, like, have it followed up with his stories. and wow, you know, because I, you know, today, it's like a modern times, you know, it's not like, you don't hear about it as much as you do if you read, you know, like, the New Testament when Jesus

Jesus's ministry, you know, like all the, you know, miracles being performed, like today, it's like, you know, you don't hear too much, but I still honestly believe that there are miracles being performed, you know. Each and every day. Yeah. Well, man, listen, I really appreciate you coming on, Brian. I think you had some great stories to share. And I know when we were first talking, you weren't sure if you would have enough information. But I think you shared plenty of information tonight.

And I think the audience is really going to enjoy this show. Oh, great. Thank you so much. Do you have anything you'd like to say before we get out of here? No, not that I can. think of. I don't know. I mean, uh, just, from me to you, I just want you to, you know, I encourage you, you know, keep going, keep it up, you know,

because as soon as I found, as soon as I found your podcast, I was like, oh, this is great. You know, you do a wonderful job and, you know, I really like listening to your podcast. Well, I really appreciate that, man. I'm putting a lot of time and effort into it, so I want, I want, I want to make something that people really enjoy. So it's good to, it's good to, it's good to hear that people are enjoying it. So that's good.

Oh, yeah. Yep. All right, man. Well, listen, I really appreciate talking to you. And if anything ever happens again or if your mom would like to talk or something, you know, you can get a hold of me and we'll definitely arrange this, arrange something like that. All right, great, Tony. All right, man. Take care, right?

Okay, you too. Well, that's the show, everyone. I really hope you enjoyed it. and I enjoyed recording with Brian. I think he gave some great detail as to what he saw, and I hope it's enlightening, entertaining, and inspirational for all of you. Before we get out of here, I did mention earlier about following me on Instagram. I didn't tell you how to do that in case you wanted to see that video from earlier. My Instagram is Tony underscore Merkel, and that's the same as my Twitter. So both is the same. So it's at Tony underscore Merkel for Twitter, and it's

Tony underscore Merkel on Twitter. You can look me up. I would be happy to communicate with you, as always. And if you have an encounter, email me at the Confessionals Podcast at gmail.com or go to the connection section on the website and reach out to me. I really hope everybody has a great week. I'll see you next Saturday. Take care. You're right away. She took me a little with her. Up on the right on the stairwell. This is her daughter. Something he needs. Like, it was like, black and white, and it was like hazy. It was like a head.

To pray for this woman, she was like in a rocking chair in the room. Ice cold circles.