The Confessionals - 93: The Psychic’s Visions

Episode Date: October 16, 2018

On Episode 93, guest Nick recounts how, at 12 years old, he moved into a brand new home and suddenly started encountering entities. These entities asked Nick for his help, and seemingly opene...d a gateway to a life of paranormal experiences. As recently as two years ago, Nick’s even developed psychic abilities! He shares details about his newfound abilities and much more on today’s show.Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Outro Music : ONLAP - ""Whispers In My Head""ITUNES : https://itunes.apple.com/fr/artist/onlap/id339918784 (also on AMAZON)SPOTIFY : https://open.spotify.com/album/6cdhj56E1MF3azjkmu7Gv0 (also on DEEZER)YOUTUBE : https://www.youtube.com/user/OnlapMusikFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/ONLAP.Official

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Starting point is 00:00:44 And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like that. this. Somebody else. Shoot them in the face. Shoot them in the face. They basically decapitate them. Feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two small gray entities. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I was pushed and I touch air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Yep. Welcome to the show, everybody.
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Starting point is 00:03:22 We have Nick coming on. And Nick, when he was 12 years old, moved into a new house. It was a new house, like a new construction house. But yet he started having a lot of different entities and spirits visiting him, claiming that they needed his help. He gets into this tonight, And then he talks about how the rest of his life kind of turned in that direction. And even up to recently, about two years ago, he started developing psychic capabilities. And so he goes into all of that tonight. Let's get into it right now. All right, tonight I have a great guest coming on.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I have Nick, who is actually a patron of mine. Nick, how you doing, man? Great. How you doing, Tony? I'm doing good, man. This is an interview that we scheduled a while back and stuff. And I've gotten to get to know you a little bit here and there through the Facebook group in our interaction as you know, you being a patron and stuff like that. You got some,
Starting point is 00:04:22 you got some really interesting stuff to share with people today. You, you don't know, you know, what to call yourself and stuff, but you have psychic capabilities and you, you act on those when you have, you know, visions or whatever it is to come through and stuff, which is pretty interesting. But your story doesn't start with that, though. That's something that's, you know, been developing over the last few years for you. But everything kind of started when you were 12 years old and you guys kind of moved into this house. So if you want, just start off there and tell us, you know, what some of the things that you've experienced throughout your life, you've got a lot of stuff to share with us. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, thanks for having me on today.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I appreciate it. I just, I want to make sure my story gets heard that way others out there, if they have similar instances or experiences, they know that, you know, it's normal. But, yeah, So in 1999, my dad and mom had built a brand new house, new construction, in a neighborhood. There's lots of houses in this neighborhood. And I remember the first night, I was about 12 years old at this time. And the first night I was in the house, I remember, you know, whenever you stay somewhere different, it's always kind of scary because, you know, it's new. And it's, you know, I'd never lived anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I lived in another house for 11, 12 years of my life, and here we are a new house. So, yeah, it was a little weird, but I remember almost within the first week hearing footsteps, noises and voices and stuff, seeing shadows was huge inside this house. I mean, shadows just passing by the doors and things like that I would always see. And as a kid, as a 12-year-old, you know, not ever experiencing these things, and then all of a sudden it's starting to happen to you. you don't know what to think. I was raised Catholic.
Starting point is 00:06:11 My dad was raised Catholic. Both my parents are from New York. They went to Catholic schools growing up. So I was always kind of scared to tell my parents after, you know, it had been going on, and I realized that what I was seeing was actually there. So I was kind of always afraid to tell my parents about what I was seeing, but they've always been super supportive of me. And so when I actually told them, they believe me.
Starting point is 00:06:37 which was like a huge relief. And so once they believed me, it was kind of like I could go to them and tell them things. But, yeah, so after about that first week of the footsteps and the noises and the voices and stuff like that, I think my dad would always try and discredit things. I remember another guy saying that his dad would always say, you know, it's just a house settler. It's a new house. It's just the house settling.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And so, yeah, I think to myself, like, you know, I know what it sounds like for houses to creak and crack. and I could tell the difference, but this was different, and I knew right away. So I think my first real big experience in the house, though, was there was a lady in a white dress. So I woke up in the middle of the night, and my bed was against the wall, and next to my bed was my chair where I kept my clothes on, and then next to that was a window. And the moonlight was coming in almost like perfectly. And when I woke up, I looked to my right, and there was this. lady, she was just staring out the window. And she was in a white dress and she was really skinny and she was kind of looking up almost
Starting point is 00:07:44 at the moon or the moonlight and she was like glowing in this white dress. And it was almost like as soon as I saw her, she disappeared. So she was there no longer than maybe 10 seconds and she just kind of faded into the light. And I was just kind of like, oh, you know, that was weird. Well, there's another instance where actually a few different times, I'd probably say at least two or three times where I woke up in the middle of the night. And at the foot of my bed, there stood a boy, and he was wearing a brown suit. And I say he's probably about the age of maybe six or seven.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And I say that because I have a daughter that day. So I'd say he's about around six or seven years old. And he was in a brown suit, and he never said anything to me. He just looked at me and smiled. And again, it was one of those things that as soon as I saw him, he was gone. So maybe about 10 seconds he was there and that was it. So I saw him, like I said, two or three times. And then the scariest one, I was probably about 13 years old.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And I had mentioned that there was a chair next to my bed that I kept my clothes on. And I would frequently pull this chair up to my chair up to my. TV to play video games because that was towards the foot of my bed. Well, this instance or this experience lasted a little bit longer than 10 seconds. And I woke up, I rolled over, and literally, it gives me like the goosebumps to think about it. But there's a guy who's a black guy sitting in a chair where I normally played my video games right next to my bed, but he was leaning forward. and his face was literally like within like eight to ten inches of my face and his mouth was wide open and his eyes were really big and when I say mouth wide open his jaw like dropped almost it was just weird
Starting point is 00:09:50 and he had a little white dog with him that was like really dirty um he was wearing like old style jeans. He was sweating and he had a white shirt with like dirt and holes in it. And, um, and I just, I,
Starting point is 00:10:09 like I said, like I was 13 and I didn't understand what I was seeing. And, um, it scared the absolute crap out of me. And so I, I couldn't even scream. Like,
Starting point is 00:10:20 I couldn't even yell for my parents. I was so scared. Um, so I pulled the covers over my head. I turned away. I started saying a prayer. and I essentially fall to sleep that way. I remember the next morning,
Starting point is 00:10:33 after all these instances or these experiences, I told my parents, and my parents, like I said, were very supportive of what I saw and, you know, would ask me more about it. But it wasn't just always me. There was instances after, you know, I started coming forward and talking about things.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I have an older brother who, he's six years older than me, who was coming home from work when my, and we were all downstairs in the family room. And the light was on in his room upstairs. And he comes in the front door and sees us all sitting there. And he goes, somebody just in my room. And we're like, no, why?
Starting point is 00:11:13 And he goes, well, I was pulling in the driveway and I saw somebody standing in my window. And we're like, no, we've all been down here, you know, at least an hour watching TV and stuff. And that was kind of weird. And then one morning my brother wakes up and we're all sitting up. breakfast and he says, I had an interesting experience last night, which is weird for my brother, because my brother really doesn't ever talk about anything like this. And he says that he saw a Native American man standing in his room at the foot of his bed.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And the man handed him like a note or a piece of paper. And I guess in my brother's sleepy state that he was in, kind of just tossed it on the floor and fell back to sleep. When he woke up, there was no note there. but you could obviously tell that he had saw something that was not normal and something that kind of not necessarily frightened him just not normal. So those are like those are like the big experiences that had happened in that house as far as like seeing apparitions, like full body apparitions. The other things were like I had neighbors, my best friend lives kind of caddy quarter to our house. like my backyard, backed up in his backyard.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And we were in his house one day. And he, his basement was not yet finished. And we could hear footsteps coming up the stairs. And so we would hear stuff like that. But there was one instance where he was spending the night at my house. And we were leaving his back door to run into my house's back door. And we were kind of like doing a light jog. well, have you ever seen a Roman candle before?
Starting point is 00:13:00 You know how like if you light it and you shoot them off, there's like balls of the light that come out of it? Yeah. Okay, so we saw what looked like a purple ball of light, like a Roman candle, and it was like a ball of energy that just like swirled around our backyard, like above our head for maybe seven seconds. And it was purple and it was bright,
Starting point is 00:13:23 and it was making hard angles and zipping around. we stopped and both looked at each other like, did you just see that? And, you know, after we saw, we like booked it for the back of my house, you know, banging down the door to let us in. So that was a really weird instance, too, because, you know, like I'd never seen just the ball of light before. And then, you know, once I started talking more and more about it to, like, neighbors and stuff, I found out that my gym teacher actually down the street, you would have cabinets and stuff that would open and close in our house. house by themselves.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And I always thought that was interesting. But after doing some research, I found out that our neighborhood was built on Indian burial grounds. And no more than about 800 yards away, there was a mass burial site at one of the main intersections right up the street from our house. So I don't know if that was, that had to do with anything. had anything to do with anything, but I thought that was interesting. But one of the other big things that used to happen inside this house was we would hear each other's voices being mimicked.
Starting point is 00:14:37 So my mom would be home by herself and she would hear me yell mom or I would be home by myself and I would hear my sister yelling for somebody. We would hear each other's voices when we were home by ourselves. And that was, I mean, that still goes on now and my parents are still in this house. and I always thought that that was kind of weird, but my dad's admitted to hearing footsteps around the house. You know, my grandfather, he had passed away in 2003, so we'd been living in the house, you know, for four years or so. And after he had passed away,
Starting point is 00:15:15 I almost immediately started having dreams about him visiting me. And this is kind of when the whole visitations, started in my dreams, which was with my grandfather. But when I would see him in my dreams, he was a lot younger. I only saw him maybe about once a year. He still lived out on Long Island, where my parents grew up after they moved out of Brooklyn. And I would have these dreams of him. Like I said, he'd be younger, and he'd be at these different places, and he'd have his dogs with
Starting point is 00:15:48 them. And so I approached my dad, and I said, hey, you know, this is his father. I said, hey, did grandpa, you know, look like this when he was younger? And, you know, I saw him in my dream with these two types of dogs. And so I described this, his appearances and his dogs to him. And he was like, yeah, those are the two dogs that he grew up with. And I'm like, really? And he's like, yeah, those are his, you know, I had no idea my grandpa was being a dog
Starting point is 00:16:14 because he never owned a dog, you know, going out to visit him. And so, yeah, he told me, you know, grandpa had those dogs growing up. up. Those are his two dogs as a kid. I'm like, really. So his wife, my grandma, which is my mom or my dad's mother, was actually, she never practiced it, but she could see spirits as well. And I didn't know this until I was 13 until I started telling my dad, hey, I'm having these experiences. And he said, hey, we did you know, Grandma Carol used to have experience. experiences like this. And so at that time, you know, I got in touch with my grandma and I started telling her a lot of things that were happening to me and some of these visions that I was having and stuff like that. So that's all the instances that or the occurrences that happened between like 99 and maybe like 06 or 07 until I was about 17-ish. And then through the age of 17 and 20, not much really happened, like, around the house, except for, you know, you get used to the shadows and the phantom voices.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You know, you kind of learn to almost ignore it and you don't really, or at least I didn't pay attention to it too much. You know, as a teenager, you know, high school and 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, you know, you're, I was busy with my life and I never really paid attention to any of it until I met my sister's, friend in 2007, who I was telling her all my experiences, and she had said that she had started a paranormal group, but it was just her and another girl. And she said, would you be interested in starting something bigger? And I said, yeah. And so we decided to grow the group and make it bigger. We visited Waverly Hills Sanatorium, if you've heard of it before. It's down in Louisville, Kentucky. It's like 160,000 square feet and over like, I want to say like over 50,000 or what was it, like 50,000 people had went there. And like there was so much death. And they actually have a 400-foot
Starting point is 00:18:36 body shoot behind the building where people were dying. That's creepy. Yeah. So it's like a giant tunnel down this hill. And one side is stairs and the other side's like a flat concrete slab. And And they would basically just throw these bodies down, this like, not throw them, but I think they had like these cards and stuff that would carry them down the shoe. And then a hearse would take them away and they'd bring them into a mass burial site. But they used to do electroshock therapy there because it was for tuberculosis. So they would actually stick like these electrodes in people's lungs and shock them and then stick balloons in their lungs to try and get them to blow up. and just do odd crazy things there.
Starting point is 00:19:20 They have, there's a morgue there. I mean, you name it. There's a bunch of stuff there. But, you know, we've captured EVPs and shadows and stuff through paranormal investigations. And we visited the West Virginia State Penitentiary, the Ohio State Reformatory, where Shawshank Redemption was filmed. And all these places we ran out for ourselves. So we have the whole building just like eight of us. And we go in and we investigate.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And the crazy thing is I'm the one in the group that always has something happen, whether I'm touched or whether I'll hear a voice or something like that. So they like using me sometimes as like bait, but I get really scared. Actually, my wife's the brave one. I've kind of got her into doing more stuff because she really doesn't care. She really doesn't care to a certain extent. But anyway, there's one instance at Waverly where the guard at night, he locks everything up. And, you know, it's 4 o'clock in the morning, 5 o'clock in the morning you're shutting down because you can investigate from 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. or whatever it is. He goes, I need somebody to walk and close, go up to the fifth floor with me and shut everything down.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And I'm like, hmm. I'm thinking of myself, I don't know if I want to walk back in this building. I'm like drained. I'm tired. It's scary. And he's like, you. And he points to me. And I'm like, yeah, he's like, you come with me? And I'm like, oh, no. Okay. So he brings me along. And he shuts the door. And everything's pitch black. I have a voice recorder still recording in my back pocket. I have my tripod, my video camera thrown over my shoulder. It's not turned on because we were cleaning everything up. And then I have a flashlight in my back pocket. And, uh, As soon as he shuts the door, he walks in front of me. And when it's black, it goes pitch black. Like, you can't see your hand in front of your face black. And he goes, shh, shh, shh. And I'm like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm like, what? He's like, did you hear that? I'm like, hear what? And he's like, it sounds like somebody's throwing rocks at us. And so I, you know, I'm quiet, and you can. It sounds like somebody's tossing little pebbles, like, at our feet. You can hear him coming from maybe a few feet away and they're just, you know. Well, just after he says that, there's probably a good, I'm guessing what was about 15 feet between us.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And I'm only saying that because I eventually turned my light on. I saw what looked to be the shape of a human being pop up from the ground in between us. and it was blacker than the black. And I see it standing there, and you can hear me. I say, holy, you know, you know what? And he goes, what? And as soon as he says, what, the thing just like almost sucks back down in the ground. I grab my flashlight, I turn it on, and that's where I could see the distance between us.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Wow. And I'm like, there was just something, there was something standing right in between us. Like, I don't know what it was. It was in the shape of a person, but there was something right in between us. So that was kind of one of the big things that happened during an investigation. But that particular, yeah, go ahead. With that, it just came out of the ground, like straight out of ground, like almost like an elevator just kind of pushed it up out of the ground?
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was weird. Wow. Like, it just, yeah, like, that's a really good way of putting it. It's almost like something lifted it out of the, like an elevator, just boom, you know. came up and it was just, it didn't move. It just was there in the shape of a person, and it froze me, and as soon as I said, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:19 a couple words, it was gone. Did it come up out of the ground slow or fast? Is it, like, shoot out of the ground, or was it just kind of, like, slowly coming up? It was a little bit fast. It wasn't, like, real slow and creepy, but it was more quick, like, you know, like it took maybe three seconds for it to, like, fully come out of the ground,
Starting point is 00:23:39 and it was about as tall as I am and I'm six to do. Wow. I'd say it was right around six feet tall. Yeah. So that was like an instance where, you know, that happened away from my house. Up until that point, most of everything had ever happened to me had been at my house in my neighborhood. And then, you know, this had happened. And it kind of made me think like, oh, there's more stuff out there than just what's going on at my house.
Starting point is 00:24:08 but, you know, I've done stuff. There's little things in between there that there's an instance where I actually messed with a Ouija board with a friend. And that was not good. I tell people all the time, do not play with Ouija boards. Do not play with Ouija boards. You will get into so much trouble if you mess with a Ouija board. We actually did an investigation at my house, the house that I grew up in. And we actually got rhythmic drumming on one of our cameras, which sounded, you know, like a boom, bu, boom, boom, boom, boom. And it went on for a good five, ten minute. We captured it. One of the investigators actually came over one night when I was home by myself. My parents were on vacation. And she only came over this night because, like, the night prior to this, I had to go to my sister's house to spend a night because I was making a sandwich in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:25:07 and I turned to go towards the refrigerator, and when I did, I heard a pear-patter of, like, a little kid roamed by me, and I heard a giggle. And it sounded like a little girl's laughing, like a giggle. And right down there, I called my sister, and I said, hey, I'm coming over. I'm spending the night. I'm not staying here by myself. And then the next night I had our investigator come over, and the night went on, and I woke up the next morning. And I said, so did anything happen last night? She slipped in the family room.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And she said, yeah, she goes, did you come downstairs last night? I said, no. She goes, well, about 3 o'clock in the morning. She goes, I heard somebody come down the stairs, walk through the foyer, walk into the kitchen, open up cabinets, and start ruffling things around. She's like, almost like they were making a meal or something. I said, no, I was upstairs the whole night. And this is something that happens regularly. My parents will even confirm that you can hear footsteps up and down the stairs in their house.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Again, like I said, that kind of traces back to my parents' house. You know, I've seen, I won't go into all the detail, but I've seen firsthandly have seen poltergeist activity of being upstairs in what was an old funeral home, which is now a home for two people. They live there with their son. I don't know if their son lived there anymore. was back in 2012, but I was upstairs. The ceiling fan turned on by itself.
Starting point is 00:26:40 The light started flickering, then the ceiling fan turned off, and the lights started flickering again. And it's stuff that, like, you don't really believe any of it until you see it. And then it happens. And you're like, oh, my gosh, this is real. So those are kind of like the, you know, paranormal experiences I had as a kid growing up until, you know, into my 20s. I'm 30 now, but it means you have any questions regarding that, or I can kind of go on more to, I can go on more to talk about how, what's experienced now
Starting point is 00:27:18 since I've, like, met my life and stuff like that. Well, yeah, we can go into that here in a second. But when it comes to the house that you grew up in, and I think you said you had gotten to talking to your gym teacher, was that who? it was that you talked to and they had experiences too? Yeah. How did that whole conversation strike up between you and your gym teacher? Was this something that you approached your gym teacher about? Or was it like something that a lot of people were talking about things happening? No. So it was my gym teacher lived in our neighborhood and she lived next to one of my friends who I went to school with. So she knew us kids really well. And she kind of, if there's a few times,
Starting point is 00:28:01 she'd let us go swimming in her pool. And, you know, the other kids growing up would kind of poke fun of me. Like, you know, Nick saw this in his house. Your Nick would see this in this house. And I think that's probably just how it started. Or, you know, I wasn't afraid to ask people in the neighborhood, hey, do you have weird stuff happening in your home? Because I was curious.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Like, you know, I wanted to make sure that, like, I don't know, there's a part of me, like, am I nuts? Am I really experiencing the stuff? And so she one day, yeah, we were there. I think we just finished swimming and she was telling us right there in her driveway, like, yeah, you know, our cabinets open and closed by themselves. We hear footsteps, you know, stuff like that. So it wasn't anything that she brought up. It was, I always, I'm always the one.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I'm a social butterfly anyway, so I'll just bring stuff up. If people don't like what I say or what I believe, then that's their problem. Well, I don't sound mean about it, but everybody has their own belief. and I have my own beliefs, and I wouldn't want somebody to judge me or think I'm crazy. So, you know, I always throw stuff out there and let people know what I experience just because I think that's the best way to kind of like cope with it is like, for me at least, is to talk about my experiences, whether it's paranormal or not, any experience I have in life I talk about because it's a way for it to get off my chest.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And then I'm a people person and I like to help people. So when I express one thing, maybe there's something in that sentence or something that I say or a story that I tell that makes them like, oh, hey, you know, everybody's got their so-called demons, I guess you could say. And the more you talk about things, the more people open up. And so that's just how I am. So I think that's just how it stemmed with my gym teacher. Okay. So when you're talking about the Ouija board and stuff, you're like, don't touch the Ouija board. Did you have, like, I mean, like, what makes you so adamant about not touching Ouija boards?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Well, I had an experience with my friend. We actually bought one from freaking Toys R Us, and I can't believe they sell them. But, I mean, realistically, you can make your own Ouija board. Like, you can write it on a piece of paper. You can get a magnifying glass wherever you want to use, you know, and it will work. It will work because what you're doing is you're trying to conjure up spirit activity. You're trying to connect with something on the other side. And from what I've seen and what I've experienced and from what I've read,
Starting point is 00:30:42 there are mainly from my experiences, though, there are energies, not necessarily demonic, not necessarily evil, but negative energies, negative spirits out there that will use this way as an open door to come through and do what they want to do and how they want to do it. And the experience that I had was my friend and I, my best friend and I were using this Ouija board. And this entity or something came through. And it was supposedly his grandmother. And as it was talking to us, we were asking a question. And I started getting a severe, severe migraine.
Starting point is 00:31:22 It felt like somebody drove an ice pick through my head. And so we asked it, do you, something along the lines of who are you here for? And surprisingly, my friend's grandma said, Nick, which is my name. So why would you be there for me? And then we started asking, are you, you know, are you making Nick have this headache? And it would move to yes. And then do you want to hurt Nick? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And as soon as it did that, I shut it, I closed it. I gave it to my friend. I said, I don't want it to hear anymore. more. I don't want to deal with it. You know, you take it. I don't know what he did with it. I don't even know if he still has it, but after that, I never messed with it again. And I've come across, I've been in investigations where people have used them and people will try and burn them. And when you burn them, it only makes things worse. Apparently you're supposed to bury them. I'm no expert. I don't claim to be an expert. but from my experiences and talking with other people, you're supposed to bury them. So, you know, I don't know. I had a bad experience with, you know, that migraine.
Starting point is 00:32:32 As soon as it happened, it went away. But for, I swear for like a week or two straight, I felt like this just nasty energy around me. And, you know, I don't know, maybe I was just shocked. I don't know, but it was just weird. So I tell people just stay away from them. It just, even if you investigate the paranormal, I tell people to don't do it unless you know what you're getting yourself into because, again, it's an open invitation for anything to come through, anything.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And, you know, I've had experiences like I came home from the Waverly where for a week straight I woke up paralyzed in my bed. I couldn't move my arms. I couldn't move my legs. and I see shadow people running around my room. And as soon as you cry out or you even think of the word Jesus Christ, it'll go away. And so any of my experiences, the power of Jesus has thwarted a lot of activity. That's what I believe. That's what's worked for me.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Like I said, everybody's got their own beliefs. Yeah. Well, you know, I find it interesting guys like you because you're very different than me. I mean, if all it takes is for me to not be waking up and seeing shadow people around, I stop everything. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to go out on investigations. I don't want to nothing. Have you ever come across a point in time where you're just like, this is too much for me. I'm really thinking about not doing investigations. I'm really not. Or do you, do is that just something that, you know, It's just part of the, par for the course. No, so yeah, there are investigations I refuse to go on.
Starting point is 00:34:22 There was one in particular where there's a girl who I went to high school with. She was Native American and her son was being attacked at night. Her, it was like a newborn, close to newborn,
Starting point is 00:34:35 within, you know, like six to eight months. And she was being choked. She was being scratched. She was, she actually had video footage of her washing,
Starting point is 00:34:46 machine moving like three feet across the floor. So we were going to go on this investigation and I was like really, really trying to prep myself for it like, are we going to do this? Are we going to do this? You know, at one point I did refuse to go because I'm like, you know, I don't want to come in contact with something that I'm not familiar with. I mean, the things that she was describing that she had seen to us led me to believe everything demonic. Everything demonic. I mean, as far as like, she said there was, she almost saw,
Starting point is 00:35:22 like, what looked like Native American. I don't know how she described. I mean, it was like a mask with hair on it and, and like horns and creepy looking. And she said that this entity had followed her around ever since she was little. That's interesting. So right, yeah, and so right before we were actually getting ready to go on this investigation, like a few days before we tried to contact her and we didn't get any response, only to find out that she just up and moved. Like, I guess she had enough of it, and she moved back to, like, one of the Native American reservations where her uncle lived, I think, like, out west somewhere. So we actually never got to go on this investigation, but that would have been one that,
Starting point is 00:36:03 I'm 99% sure I would not have gone on it because of that. And then there's another one I refused to go on. It was the Saddam'sville rectory here in Cincinnati. They had, it's an old Catholic church where the priests used to stay. They actually had exorcisms performed there. It got busted for one of the biggest dog fighting rings, I think, like in the Midwest. And there's no demonic hauntings there. I let the team go by themselves because I were going to go.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You know, it's interesting that you mentioned about the Native American, if I remember correctly what you said, that she saw a Native American dressed up in like a mask with horns, right? Mask with hair and horns is what I remember her telling me. Okay. So I just find it interesting. I don't know a whole lot, but in Pennsylvania, and I know that's, you know, I mean, it's not close, but it's not that far away either. In Pennsylvania, there is these burial grounds that they uncovered.
Starting point is 00:37:10 back in the early 1900s. And I think it was Bradford, Pennsylvania, is where they uncovered one where they said they found a skull with horns protruding from the skull. And it's a very popular picture that goes around on the internet. It's a very real thing that that skull with horns is very real, and it's a real skull with horns. But I should say it exists. but there are people who say that it's not actually true horns coming out of the skull.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It was actually deer antlers that were put into the skull as some kind of ritualistic mask. And I know I heard that before, and I'm not exactly sure all the details on it, but if it was some kind of Native American thing where they were putting horns on these skulls and using them as some kind of mask and things, I find it interesting that she kind of saw that as well. Yeah, I'd never heard of that before. That's just the first time hearing of it. But yeah, she said that she used to see it even as a little girl,
Starting point is 00:38:18 just in the car, like outside of her window, just like this face with like a hairy face with horns, and she said it looked like a mask. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah. Wow. So why don't you walk us into some of the other things that started happening with,
Starting point is 00:38:34 I think you said you and your wife, right? Yeah, yeah. So I met my life in 2011 and we were living with my parents for a little while, and I never really talked about my paranormal experiences. I never really said anything that went on in the house. But one night she woke up and she told me that she was experiencing shadow figures or she saw shadow figures in the house. And that's when I kind of told her, you know, I've always had experiences and things like that were happening. But so it kind of started there. We actually moved into our first apartment and we had our daughter, who's currently sitting on my back right now. But we moved into our first apartment and we had our first child, her name's Andy.
Starting point is 00:39:31 and one of the first, I said within the first three months there, I woke up in the middle of night in our master bedroom, to the right of me was our master bathroom. And I rolled over and I saw a man standing in the doorway in like a full military uniform and he was tall. I remember he was tall and skinny. And I remember, and this is where my psychic, my quote-unquote, what his psychics have told me,
Starting point is 00:40:00 my Claire audience comes from, which is being able to hear, I call it mind speak because they don't actually talk to me. They actually just put the sentences in my head, if that makes sense. But he basically told me like, it was almost kind of like a, not a mean stare, but a stern stare, like, hey, I'm not here for you, I'm here for her, meaning my wife. And I was kind of like, what in the heck? And, you know, we used to see shadows in the hallway and stuff leading up. to that even. And so the next morning, I told my wife, so this is what I saw last night. You know, there's a man standing in our doorway.
Starting point is 00:40:40 He's tall, skinny, full military uniform. Not sure what that was, but he told me that he was here for you. And she's like, really? And she's thinking and thinking and thinking. And she goes, let me ask my mom, to my mother-in-law, what her dad looked like. because her dad, his name was Bill, and he was in the military, and he passed away. I wanted to say when she was, my mother-in-law was like maybe 12 years old, I'm not sure what he passed away of. I think it was some type of a cancer, but she showed me this picture of him
Starting point is 00:41:18 like a week later, and my jaw dropped. I'm like, that's who was standing in our doorway for you. Wow. And this kind of ties into my later. story. So keep in mind, Bill, his name, my wife's grandfather, who she's never met. So that kind of happened in our first apartment. And then again, all of a sudden, in like 2012 sparked visits from my grandpa George, who was the one that had passed away in 2003 that I was having dreams of after he passed away. I had a whole conversation with. my grandfather about my dad, who's his son, and only things that the two of them knew together. And as I was talking to my grandfather, George, I was sitting on my couch and he was just there.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And again, it was like mind speak, and he was showing me these images too. And so I was texting my dad. I was sending him like these, like, long, I mean, it was probably midnight. And I'm waking my dad up at midnight, sending them these text messages like, Grandpa's telling me this and this and this. And so finally the next day, he's like, yeah, like, how did you know that stuff? I'm like, because Grandpa was telling me, you know. So through probably like 2012 to 2015, I would have these dreams of my grandfather, George.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I would see my wife's grandfather, Bill. I would, you know, we would see shadows in the house and things like that. And that's kind of everything that happened while we were living there. And then around 2015, both my wife and I kind of hit rough patches individually in our life. Her grandmother had passed away, and her grandma's, her and her and her grandma were extremely close, like motherly almost like to her. and you know I was kind of in-between job and you know looking for some financial stability and and it was kind of a I call it my spiritual awakening. I was baptized, actually rebaptized in June of 2015 because of things that, and I got back into the church again. It was kind of like a non-denomination Christian church in the area that we were living.
Starting point is 00:43:52 And I started to really like follow Jesus. And so I decided to get rebaptized in 2015. And then 2016, we moved to Dayton, Ohio, which, you know, up here by Wright, Pat. And that's really when things started to spark was like right around 2016. So after I kind of found my, you know, had the spiritual awakening, I began to get more and more visits. And these visits were by people that I did not know. So like, for instance, one night I was laying, or no, it was not a night.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It was a morning. I was getting ready to go into work. And I was having like a panic attack. And I was feeling real anxious or it felt like a panic. I don't know if it was a panic attack, but it's like real anxious, my heart was pounding. So I decided to lay down for a minute and close my eyes. And before I knew it, I saw this bright light and like smoke and this guy comes forward. And again, he starts to speak to me, like this mind speak.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And he keeps telling me that his name is Bill. And his connection was with my father, that they had worked together. and he kept saying over and over and over again, Penn State, Penn State, Penn State. And then he said, Joel is okay and kind of just disappeared. And I'm like, what was that about? So I'm like, I've got to call my dad. Because at this point, you know, this is only a year or two ago. At this point, you know, any experiences I've ever had, I've always talked to my dad about.
Starting point is 00:45:46 He's been the one that wants to know more about what's going on in my life and why things are happening. So I call him. I said, hey, dad, I need to tell you something. I've had an experience. Let me call you back in like an hour. I'm busy. So he called me back. I'm like, so did you, by any chance, have a friend that you worked with?
Starting point is 00:46:06 His name was Bill. And he was telling me something about, I said, he kept saying Penn State over and over and over again. I said he said that he worked with you. I said he kept saying Penn State over and over again, and he told me Joel is okay. And on the other end, I can hear my dad go, oh my God, I was like what? He goes, Bill was my boss. So my dad worked for GE for 36 years. And he had a lot of different bosses and stuff throughout his time there.
Starting point is 00:46:39 But Bill, his boss, was the most prominent one, was his most favorite one, and the one that he worked was the longest who had passed. away, I believe it was of a heart attack. And he said that they used to make fun of him all the time because he used to have all this Penn State stuff in his room or in his office because he graduated from Penn State. And they used to make fun of him like, what's a Nittany Lion, you know? And they used to, I guess, really ruffled feathers about it. But he was a very strong Penn State fan. And Joel was a guy that he had worked with that had also passed away. And so there was no way of me ever knowing this about my dad. My dad hardly ever talked about his work when he came home.
Starting point is 00:47:22 The only thing you talk about is, you know, a jet engine that he may have helped repair, but he never really talked about go-workers or anything. So that was kind of a confirmation for me, and it was kind of a confirmation for him. And my wife, she believed me when I would have these experiences, you know, after being with me for five or six years of having experiences, and she's had stuff happen to her here and there. So she believed me. But one time I had this dream of her grandmother who had passed away in 2015, and she was sitting on a porch in a rocking chair, and it was a big porch of a White House.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And she kept showing me coins, like coins, like pennies, dimes, nickels, things. things like that. And she was sitting on the porch waiting for like this storm to come in. And at the end of my dream out walked Bill, my wife's grandfather. And this would have been her late husband. And so I told my life, we were out to, we were eating at Bob Evans one morning. And I told my wife about the dream that I had. And she goes, what?
Starting point is 00:48:41 I was like, yeah, she goes, you just described the house that I grew up in with my grandmother. And she used to sit in the rocking chair and wait for storm to roll in. And she goes, and in the front doorway, we had a jar of coins that we used to spill out all over the floor. And it was like in every time thing that we would do was we would always dump this and she would always get on us for, you know, for playing with these coins. And I'm like, you know, that's another kind of affirmation for me to know that. And that's kind of when my wife really got on board of, wow, you know, this is, like I said, she always believed me. But after experiencing things with her relatives, things that she knew, kind of pieced everything together. And then there was another instance, and this is huge.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And you tell me what you think about this, Tony, and other people can weigh in on this as well. Okay. but so I would freak, you know, not frequently, but every few months say prayers to my grandfather, George. My grandfather, like I said, died in 2003, and I had said one night a prayer to him, you know, saying, you know, please watch over our family and protect us and guide us and, you know, things of that nature. and about, I'd say maybe about two days before this prayer, my wife had taken a pregnancy test, and it was negative. And the next day after this prayer, she calls me in the morning, and she goes, hey, I took another pregnancy test. I was like, yeah, she goes, we read it the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, it wasn't negative. It's been positive. I'm like, oh, okay. So she goes, yeah, I called the doctor and he said that the, or they said that the due date was going to be September 23rd. And I'm like, that's odd. You know, I knew my grandfather, but not well enough to know his birthday. And I think my grandfather's birthday was like the 20th.
Starting point is 00:50:46 He was born and he died in September. So I knew his death date and his birthday was sometime in September. And I'm like, I think it's around the 23rd. So I get to work and I call my dad and I'm like, Hey dad, when was Grandpa George's birthday? And he goes, oh, September 23rd. And I'm like, well, that's weird. I just said it.
Starting point is 00:51:06 You know, I just spent a predator to my grandfather and like before. And now they're saying his due date is my grandfather's birthday. Like, this is a, you know, coincidence. So throughout the pregnancy for like the first three months, I started having dreams about my grandpa. And my grandpa was showing me visions of the baby boy. And the boy, you know, was with me. And I knew he was mine, and I kept telling my wife, we're having a boy, we're having a boy.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I kept telling everybody, having a boy, I know we're having a boy, having dreams about a boy. My grandpa's telling me about it. And they're all like, no, you're having another girl because you're not man enough to have, you know, you're not man enough to have another, you're having a boy. Oh, whatever, you know. So we go to the psychic convention in Cincinnati, and my wife's wearing a hoodie. And she's tiny anyway, so you couldn't tell she's. pregnant. We sit down with a psychic that I had once talked to before.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And he's going to through everything and he goes and you guys are going to have another baby. He goes, it's going to be a boy and this is his second cycle through life. He's related to one of you and he looks at me and he goes and it's your responsibility dad to show him
Starting point is 00:52:17 what fun means because his first life cycle he didn't know what fun. He didn't have as much fun as he should have he goes, it looks like this, you know, he was always working and he was always, you know, doing business things, which that's my grandfather. I think his family owned a wine business and he was working when he was real little. And then he always worked three jobs.
Starting point is 00:52:43 He moonlit as a jazz band member playing the saxophone and the clarinet. I think the trumpet, I don't know, one of them. But, you know, he's telling me all this stuff. I'm like, okay, so you're telling me, the due date. the 23rd was my grandpa's birthday. My grandpa's visiting me telling me I'm having a boy. Now you're telling me, a psychic's telling me we're having a boy, which is the second cycle of your life, and he's like hitting the nail on the head with my grandfather. And like, this is so weird. So finally, September 22nd rolls around. It's, you know, 10, 11 o'clock at night. My life goes
Starting point is 00:53:23 in the labor. Next thing you know, we have a boy. September 23rd on my grandfather's birthday. Wow. The coincidences of all of this happening, I mean, what are the, I mean, you have one and 365 chance of, you know, being born on this day. And here we are. So I wanted the name of George Vincet forigno after my late grandfather, but we actually just weren't with George as a middle name.
Starting point is 00:53:50 So we have Leonardo George Ferrignau as our little boy. But yeah, it's one of those things. And then after he was born, I didn't have any, I take that back. I've had one dream of my grandfather since he's been born. He'll be nine months old this month on the 23rd. And the dream that I had of my grandfather was of my father crying. And my grandfather was telling me, just let your dad know that you love him very much and everything's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Well, as of just this was, so that dream probably happened not even two, two and a half weeks ago at most. Thursday night, my dad was given the news that my grandma, who's like 95, 96, which would have been her, which would have been Grandpa George's wife, my grandma Carol, who was also the psychic. they found a growth in between her pancreas and her liver, and it doesn't look good. So I don't know if maybe that had a connection with, let your dad know that everything is going to be okay or what. But so that was the only dream that I've had since the dreams of my son being born. And then I'm trying to think of what else has happened. so much that's happened. There was one night I was here, and I went to get into Leo's crib, and there was a woman
Starting point is 00:55:35 here, and she told me that she was here to watch over our son, and she was just kind of admiring him, like, you know, I'm here to see him and see how he's doing, and I knew that she was part of my family, and she told me what her name was, and so I called my dad, and I said, hey, did we have, I'm trying to think of what she said her name was. I think it was like a Marianne in the family. Did Grandma Carol have a sister named Marianne? And he goes, no. And I'm like, well, there's a lady here that said that she was Grandma Carol's sister that her name's Marianne,
Starting point is 00:56:10 and she was just coming to see Leo. And he's like, no. He's like, but I'll ask Grandma if there's Marianne and her family. And sure enough, her sister, who went by a... another name, which was a nickname, her real name was Marianne. And my dad didn't even know this. And, you know, he called me into, hey, there was a Marian in our family. It was her sister.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And, but she went by like another name, like a Barb or something that was not even close to Marianne. So that was kind of another instance that had happened. But getting into more things, we never really talked about stuff around my daughter who's six years old. And even she started telling me stuff that she was seeing, she was seeing lights in her room, balls of white light in her room. One night I was giving her a bath and she said that she saw a man standing behind me.
Starting point is 00:57:13 And she described him. And when she described him, it sounded like Cherry's grandfather built, my wife's grandfather bill. Wow. And then she said that she saw an apparition go across. the hall, but it didn't have any legs from the knees down. And she saw it go across the hall. And there was one instance where her and my wife were in the room together.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I didn't work. I didn't work. I was at work, so I wasn't around at this particular time. But I came home, and my wife and daughter said that they saw a ball of light, like an orp shoot through the bedroom. And this is in our new apartment here in Dayton. but I'm trying to think there's so many other experiences. Like another big one is my sister-in-law, my wife's sister.
Starting point is 00:58:05 She lives in a house. It's kind of like an old, I don't even know what you call it, but it's an old house. I'm a pretty decent-sized property, I guess. But she kept having these experiences in her house. And so I sat down with her and I told her that I knew the man that was in our house. His name was Dawn. And he used to live there by himself, by himself.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And that he likes being there because of the kids. And I didn't know this Don guy that was Spirit in her house was, he gave me the feeling that he had children and his wife may have left him and took the kids. and he never got too experienced to be a dad, so he likes to be around the kids. She's got five kids that are hers and live there with her and her husband. And so she did an EVP session one night, and she asked something along the lines of who's the person that you talk to, and the EVP came back saying, Nick?
Starting point is 00:59:17 And because she didn't believe me. And so she got this EVP that says my name. And then she had a family member move in her house. It was her brother's brothers, her brother-in-law and his wife. And Don, the spirit was telling me about this box that was in the house and that had a very dark negative energy attached to it. And this is when some dark things started happening in her life, in her house. And I told her, I said, the lady that's in your house now,
Starting point is 00:59:49 she has a box that is connected to like wiji boards or connected to something dark. And I said, you need to get rid of it. And she goes, no, she doesn't have anything like that in her room. Well, she asked her about it. And she goes, yeah, I have a box. And she has a box full of this, I guess it's kind of like, it's full of paranormal equipment now. Like electronics? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:17 But when we asked her, I guess it was uncovered that she actually, actually used to do witchcraft and kept stuff in this box. And I said, yeah, that needs to be out of the house. So she got out of the house. Well, I decided to do a spirit box session on her stairs. And in the first time in my life, I was corralled out within the first two minutes of doing a paranormal, um, a spirit box session. What was that growl like?
Starting point is 01:00:45 I mean, was it a deep guttural growl? Like, was it like something that you could almost feel? It sounded like a dog. But yeah, like when you say feel, like, feel it in the pit of your stomach, like, you don't need to be doing this. And it happened right after I said, you need to find the light and go to Jesus. And it was like, like a deep dog's crowd. Like a rhr. And I was like, okay, I'm not, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I'm done. I'm not doing anything. And then for literally two weeks, I couldn't sleep. I couldn't do anything. Like, it scared me so bad, like, to my core. But I know, you know, I know that, you know, what I believe in, And what I believe, my belief system keeps me safe and my family safe. So I didn't mess with it after that.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Once that particular individual moved out of the house, things started to lighten up for my sister-in-up. So I definitely think that that had something to do with it without a doubt. But yeah, and a lot of stuff that really started happening even within just the past few months. I predicted my friends my friend and his wife had been together for a long time and they've been trying to get pregnant forever and I say friend
Starting point is 01:02:01 we were co-workers at the time and I'd only been working with him for two weeks and he was telling me me and my wife have been trying to get pregnant for a while we can't and you know we're thinking about adoption and we're doing this and that and the other well I had a dream again that him and his wife had a baby boy
Starting point is 01:02:18 So I text them and I said, hey, you guys are going to be pregnant. This is probably about a month later. And a few days after that, he goes, I want to tell you something. I'm like, what he goes. We found out my wife was pregnant the other day. And I'm like, really? I was like, you're having a baby boy, man. I actually had less with him the other day because I don't work with him anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:38 So I've been staying in touch with him. But that was kind of neat. I recently went to a psychic who confirmed that my family members on the other side. I got a kick out of Leo being born on my grandfather's birthday and that he did have something to do with it. I also shared stuff with the psychics that about her life and people around her that she told me I was correct about. She even told me some of my abilities were better than hers when it comes to clear audience because I guess men are in particular or a little bit better with like Claire audience voices, like hearing the voices and stuff like that. Did they say
Starting point is 01:03:17 why men are typically better? She said, I think it's like an emotional, men tend to be more emotionally like detached or something. I don't know, something along those lines. But yeah, she said men tend to be more clear audience. They can hear things, whereas women, I guess, see things more. But since we've been in this house, I've seen, you know, her grandfather. I've seen her grandmother in the house.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And that was the other thing, too. The psychic actually told me, she told me that Bill was the one who can help me build my psychic abilities because he hangs around me a lot and he approves with me or something like that. And so that Bill and my grandfather, George, did you, but Bill is really the one that I need to try and connect with to help me build my, like, psychic abilities. but even my wife has been experiencing a lot. She'll be here by herself and she'll hear things. My wife actually twice now, and this was kind of scary, but she's been scratched on the neck like twice here. How many lines?
Starting point is 01:04:33 The first time, I think it was one, and then one of the other times it was like four. It was never three. I've always been looked for three. You know, the market's east. But there's never, you know, it's never been anything more than that. It doesn't really, I mean, it bothers her, but it doesn't really bother her that much. I don't know if it's just a way of somebody just being like, hey, I'm here,
Starting point is 01:05:00 but then again, why would something scratch you, you know, like, wouldn't there be something else? But there was one night where after we were having a deep conversation. about paranormal stuff happening and, um, what not. Um, she looked at me and she goes, I wish there was just like clear evidence that they're here and, and, and something that could just like, let me know that it's real. Right after she said it, it felt like somebody took their hand and just smacked the bed really hard. And she goes, did you do that? And I was like, nope, and it wasn't me. Um, you know, It was, you know, something that's here, not me, but, you know, I've taken pictures in the house and I've gotten, you know, like wists of, like, white light and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I'm trying to think of, oh, yeah, the other big thing. And I had posted this about it in our group. Remember the Black Beast I posted about that? Oh, yeah, go into that. I ran across the street. Yes. I forgot about that. So yeah, like this is what, maybe a month ago, I'm driving down the street.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I'm coming home from like my softball game or grocery store or something like that. Anyway, like you're driving down the main drag and there's these inlets, these cul-de-sacs that are like, that have other apartments in them. And I get down to the last one before I make the turn to go towards our apartment. and I see what looks like, I mean, the best way to describe it is like a black bear on all fours run across the street and like disappear in the one of the apartment.
Starting point is 01:06:49 It was like a giant black mask. I'm like, what in the world was that? And I'm like, maybe I'm just seeing stuff. You know, I'm like, that was kind of weird. Well, it was no more than 24 hours later in our quiet, quiet part of Dayton, this guy went absolutely like nuts. I guess he started like beating up his girlfriend or something.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And then a police officer came in. He pulled a gun on the police officer and the police officer shot and killed this guy. And I had met this guy before. Like he had, I'd seen him walking outside and stuff. He seemed like a normal guy. And he even interviewed for a police officer job with the department of the guy that actually shot and killed him. like three days before. And, you know, you have this aspiring police officer
Starting point is 01:07:40 was no record whatsoever do this in the same exact department where I saw this thing run into. Like, what's up with that? Like, I just, in that apartment, like, kind of backs into our apartment. It happened like around midnight or 1230 in the morning. I was a fleet and my wife was awake. She didn't even hear anything.
Starting point is 01:08:01 But like, what? Like, how did that even happen? Like, so, I didn't even think about it until after it happened. I'm like, wait a second, that's the apartment where I saw that thing run it into. So, like, is that, like, I don't know. I'm no expert. Like, is that demonic?
Starting point is 01:08:18 Like, is that a black energy that, like, caused something to happen there? Like, I don't know. And, you know, it's just, that's just, I don't know, man. When I posted that, I'm like, people are going to think I'm insane. That and then just the other night, I posted. said something too. I walked outside, let my dogs out. And again, I looked up to the sky and said something to my grandfather. And I said, you know, like, if you're up there, give me like, you know, like a glimmer of hope that, you know, I'm moving in the right direction with my life and being there for my family and, you know. And just as I said that, if you've ever seen a lightning bug light up, how it lights up in one direction and it can change direction as it, like, goes out. And then when it lights up again, it'll be going to
Starting point is 01:09:06 in another direction. I saw that in the sky like 20 seconds after I said something to my grandfather, but it wasn't yellow like a lightning bug. There was no other lightning bugs out if it was a light bug.
Starting point is 01:09:19 But I know for a fact it wasn't because it was white. It looked like a star in the sky that zipped to like the left, went out, zip to the right, went out, zip back up again,
Starting point is 01:09:30 went out, and then back to the side again and went out. And then about 30 seconds to maybe a minute later, I don't even know. Have you ever seen the International Space Station fly over? No, I haven't.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Okay, it kind of looked like that, but for like three or four seconds in the sky, and this was maybe around 11 o'clock at night in Dayton. I never looked into if that's what time the Space Station was going to fly over or if we were even supposed to see it. But I saw that, and then the International Space Station thing looked like it flew over. And, yeah, so I thought that was kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:10:05 It's like I asked for it and then it was there. So sometimes that's why I don't, you know, like things happen to me, but that's why I don't like really delve into too much is because I feel like if I ask for it, I'm going to get it. Yeah. And all the investigations I've been on, like stuff happens to me. And it's always me. And, you know, now my wife's seeing things and my daughter's seeing things.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Nothing ever like bad has ever happened. Or, you know, we felt like negative energies in the house and stuff like that. And I've gone around and done Palos Santos and kind of clear. to the energy and I say prayers to Uriel and St. Raphael and St. Michael and, you know, stuff like that. So, yeah, that's kind of been everything in a nutshell. I tried to do, oh, wow, there's one more thing, one more thing. Yeah. Before I clear up, I have sometimes I have out-of-body experiences when I go to sleep.
Starting point is 01:11:03 in this particular out-of-body experience, I had fallen asleep, and I remember floating above my body, floating above our apartment, floating through the clouds, through the stars, all the way up. I don't even know where I was. But I know I was with an angel. Like, I don't know how I know this, but I know I was with an angel because I think I remember like wings. And I never was scared.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I felt comfortable. I felt like a lot of love. I felt comfort. I felt fine. And I look over, and when I look over at this, this, what I perceived as an angel, it had what you would think of would be like an alien head, like bigger eyes and like the bigger head. But like I wasn't scared. And they were telling me, again, in like mind speak, they showed me what looked at the look. like this big green globe, and it had all these different lines through it, like in every
Starting point is 01:12:08 different direction, like to the right, to the left, diagonally, it had all these different lines. And this angel pointed at a line, just a tiny, tiny, tiny little spot on this globe of green lines. And she told me, your universe is not even a dot on here. That's how big everything is. Wow. And I remember thinking like, whoa, and then before I knew it, I, that was it. I woke up and, you know, it was just another experience. But, um... So you said that they had, like, alien heads? Yeah, it was like an angelic being with an alien head. And again, I call me crazy, but, you know, when, when these things happen to me, I can tell the difference between a dream and I can tell the difference between a spiritual or an energy
Starting point is 01:13:08 an energy something, you know, one of my visions that are real. And the only reason I can tell the difference, again, is because it's followed by extreme anxiety, extreme anxiety and a feeling of like rapid heart, almost like a panic attack, like I said. And that's kind of how I know. it's true and I've been in touch with other psychics and they said that's actually common to have like panic attacks or your body to basically um it's your body's way of receiving the message it's your body responding to that that paranormal experience and that's that's normal so like I have dreams all the time um and I and I the dreams that I have you know are um of you know just like anybody's normal dreams you know sometimes running away from people
Starting point is 01:14:01 sometimes, you know, playing with your kids or whatever. But the visions that I have that are followed by panic attacks are the ones that I know are going to be true. I've actually, going back to that house that I grew up in, I used to have these visions of people that would visit me and they would ask me to help them cross over to the other side. And I had been to this particular spot, I guess, on the other side where the colors are so vibrant. The grass, the green grass is greener than you can imagine.
Starting point is 01:14:33 There are people outside. They're like in a park. Kids are running around. Dogs are running around. And then there's kind of like a street. And across the street, there's a church. And this church, I mean, it's like I said, it's a church. But one of the experience of the visions I had when I was younger, I was sitting on a bench with a guy.
Starting point is 01:14:55 And he was telling me how he wasn't a good person on earth. and that he needs my help to get to the other side. And I remember joking with him. I remember asking him how he died. And he said something along the lines that my brother was taking care of me and he was exposed to some type of an infection through a needle.
Starting point is 01:15:16 And that's essentially what kills him. And I remember joking with him. I said, yeah, I'll help you do the other side if you can put in a good word for me. And I laughed with him. And he disappeared. And as he disappeared, remember the boy,
Starting point is 01:15:29 I told you that used to stand in my room in the brown suit, he walked by, but he was glowing and he was in all white, and he just smiled at me, and then he kind of faded away. And so, again, when I used to refer to my grandmother about these instances, she actually gave me a book that Sylvia Brown, the former psychic talked about this place that you go to when we die and at the park. And she describes basically what I had, what I was dreaming about. I visited this park, this church actually with a woman who told me she had died and they were having her funeral and she was like, you can see me. And I'm like, yeah, I know I can see you. So those are all things that have always happened. I visited that park probably six different times as a kid in my visions.
Starting point is 01:16:12 You know, it's just all part of my life story. Yeah. Well, I mean, you've had tons of experiences and clearly you could probably share another hour and a half of experiences that you had. I didn't mean to keep going on and on. No, it's fine. I mean, that's what we're here for to hear people's experiences and stuff. But I wanted you to, I wanted to ask you first off with your UFO setting, was that near Wright Pat Air Force Base? Yeah, yeah. Well, so the first UFO actually saw that I never talked about was in the neighborhood that I grew up in.
Starting point is 01:16:48 That was outside with my neighbors. and we all saw that. But the one that most recently happened, yes, was, I don't know what it was. I guess I call a UFO, the light in the sky. That is near Wright-Patterson Air Force Base for sure. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:04 That's interesting, man. Very interesting. Lots of conspiracy surrounding that place. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Before we kind of wrap this up, I wanted to give you a chance to just kind of go into your friend's experience a little bit, because, you know, I would love to have her on the show, but I'm not guaranteed to have her on the show. So I want you to kind of just, you know, briefly summarize, you know, some of her experiences,
Starting point is 01:17:31 because I know one of them is, you know, because she can astrally project and she goes into Hanger 18, right? Yeah, so she actually told me that she went into Hanger 18. And this was before I even really, I mean, I had heard of Hanger 18 before, but I didn't really research it or anything. but she told me about this hangar 18 that was way underground. And she said she went there and she said that what she had saw were these animals. Well, they're actually like half human, half animal, like half human, half beast type animals that were caged in the basement of this place. And she said they were all really, really scared that they told her essentially that they were not the bad guys that they were being experimented on.
Starting point is 01:18:17 and basically being abused by our government and that essentially we were the bad guys, that they were not the bad guys. And that's kind of all she really said, but she said that she could see stuff. The big thing that she hit on was like these hybrid animals or these animals slash humans that she saw that basically told her that they're, and she said, I didn't feel any evil from them. she was like, I felt the evil was coming from the ones that were doing the experiments on them. And then she's also astral projected to Mars. And she told me that she was at some space station and she woke up in this room.
Starting point is 01:19:02 And, you know, she could tell it better. I wish, you know, I can even ask her if she wants to come on the show. But she had mentioned something about this being that she saw. And it was, she said it was very intricate that it was almost like. like man-made, like a man-made alien that had like all this intricate detail on it. It was huge. And supposedly that I think the big, she said something like the big ones were the mean ones and the little ones were the little aliens were like the nice ones.
Starting point is 01:19:36 But she said that she got this feeling of like nobody could see her, but then she was spotted so she had to leave. And she said that this was all on Mars. So how does she know she went to Mars? I mean, I don't mean, I don't mean to be goofy, but I mean, was there some kind of sign saying that she's on her way to Mars or something? I can't say for sure. I don't know if she actually tried to go there or if she accidentally went there. That's something that you probably have to ask her.
Starting point is 01:20:08 It's just something that we had talked in conversation about, you know, I've known her for about, Oh man, probably not even a year, but that's actually how we became friends with this family is actually really close with this family is through talking about paranormal instances because they had a bunch of stuff. They used to live out in California and they had this like plateau that they live near. That weird stuff used to happen all the time. And they swore that there must have been some government secret tied out in this plateau because they said that these these. helicopters used to, I don't know if they'd land back there, but they'd always fly over. And then she said she claimed that she saw this, this animal that sounded like a chupacabra that used to eat the other animals in their neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Like, you have to ask her. Yeah, I would love to. Yeah, I would love to talk to her and stuff. Yeah, definitely reach out to her and let her know about the show and see if she'd be willing to talk some time because that's many questions, many questions. put that way. I would listen to it for sure. I'm sure there's stuff that she hasn't even told me yet. So, yeah, and like
Starting point is 01:21:21 I said, she's coming to contact with a black-eyed child before in a place that she works. And she's, I say her, her experiences are a lot more darker than mine. Okay. Well, Nick, I really appreciate
Starting point is 01:21:39 coming on and talking about these experiences stuff. I mean, you have experiences for days and, you know, let me know if she wants to talk to me and stuff. And definitely, you know, you're a patron. So we'll definitely be in touch and stuff. I'm sure you'll have plenty more stories to share with me as time goes on because it seems like this is an evergoing process for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:59 So, but I really appreciate you coming on, man. Yeah, thanks, Tony. I appreciate it. And, you know, I appreciate you. Let me share my experiences and letting everybody know that stuff does happen and you're not crazy. Yeah, man, for sure. people need to understand that people experience stuff. And what's weird is that, you know, it seems like if you have an experience or you have a couple experiences, it just seems like
Starting point is 01:22:27 some people are more prone to have weird experiences than other people. You know, like some people can go through an entire life not really experiencing anything or very little to somebody like you who experiences tons of crap. And, you know, I don't know what to make of that. I don't know if there's a certain frequency that certain people give off more than others that kind of attract them to these kind of experiences. I don't know. But it's definitely interesting. And we're just kind of going along for the ride and seeing what happens.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah, it's all you can do. I mean, it is what it is. But thanks, man, for coming on. I really appreciate it. Yeah, thanks, Johnny. I appreciate it. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it.
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Starting point is 01:24:10 I was too weak to be someone else. Good thing that I'm a creep when I'm singing all alone. But it's like I couldn't see straight on. It's like I was to wait to. The thing that I'm a creep when I'm singing all alone. But it's like I couldn't see straight on my own.

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