The Confessionals - 96: From Behind The Moon It Came
Episode Date: November 6, 2018On Episode 96, we talk with two guests, Rolland and Tristan. Rolland joins The Confessionals to share two of the most impressive UFO encounters we have heard to date! He shares events he witn...essed as a child: first, seeing a black sphere, in broad daylight, being chased by fighter jets! He then describes how he and a friend observed an object appear from behind the moon. Following Rolland’s accounts, guest Tristan from Australia shares the story of a friend, whose second son began seeing the specter of his deceased older brother... who had passed away before the second son was even born!Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Outro Music: Bazanji - Want The World
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talk about it. I saw three long, boning fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it,
and then disappear.
When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.
And he starts running and firing up this giant.
With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast.
And spears, Dan, holds him up like this.
Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
They basically decapitated.
Got prices, got farser, got spars him.
when he got about 15 yards away from me, I blow this head off.
I feel something pulling at my leg, and I look over, and there are two small, gray
entities, and they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed.
I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air.
Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster.
Yep.
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you guys are willing to help support the show and the future of the show through Patreon. So thank you
very much. Now let's get into this week's show. We have Rollin coming on, and Rollin actually shares
his experience with two different UFOs, where one when he was a kid, he saw a black sphere being
chased by fighter jets. And then later on in life as an adult, he's with his buddy and he sees
something come out from behind the moon. And then after Rollin, we bring on Tristan, who actually
shares his friend's story of when his friend came to him and told him that his son started talking
about his deceased brother who was older than him. The only difference is he never met that older
brother. That older brother passed away before the younger brother was born. So let's get into it,
guys, right now. Okay, tonight I have a great guest coming on. I have Roland. And Roland,
how you doing, man? Good. How are you? I'm doing well, man. We spent some time talking here and stuff,
and I'm really excited to hear some of these experiences. Now, you emailed me your experiences,
and they were very intriguing. The first one was when you were 13.
and then one happened in 2005,
but let's just start with the one
when you were 13 years old
and you were in school.
What happened?
Okay, sure.
Well, I was in geometry class
because I remember that.
I hated geometry.
But basically,
teachers were writing on the board,
we're doing our homework
and learning what we're supposed to learn.
And all of a sudden,
I had this weird feeling
like to look out the window.
And so I did.
When I looked out the window, probably about, I would say, one city block,
there was a black sphere, and it was just kind of like floating there.
It looked like it was like moving slowly, but it was floating.
It was completely circular.
And it was black, but it was also, like, shiny.
So it was like, it wasn't like, kind of hard to describe because it was like metallic.
looking but it was dull. So it looked like it was like polished but it was a sphere. And it was
moving along and then I also noticed that there were behind it were two jets and they were like
looked like they were coming like towards it. And I could still, everything that was going on
was kind of weird because it seemed like time like froze for a second because
I couldn't hear the teacher talking anymore. I couldn't hear the
students, you know, writing their stuff.
I stopped writing because I was looking out the window and I turned to say,
did anybody see this to the rest of the class?
And it was like everybody who wasn't moving for like a split second.
And I was like, looked at everybody and they were frozen.
Like everybody was frozen, but I wasn't frozen.
And I know this sounds crazy, but I was like, looked back again.
and then at this time
the sphere was moving along
and the jets were still behind it
and it like darted straight up in the air
I mean
what went from like a moving stationary
like horizontal to vertical
went straight up like a 90 degree cut
and these jets tried to circle up
and follow it
but they couldn't they had to level off
and then at that point
I looked back and it was like everything
everybody was still doing this everybody was riding
everybody it was like
It was very strange because it almost seemed like time,
I don't know if it was in my brain,
but time stood still for a good second, a half, maybe two seconds
because I had enough time to look back
and everybody was like frozen.
So the teacher on the board was frozen.
My buddy over here was frozen.
She was frozen over here.
And then when I looked back again,
that's when the thing darted up,
and the jets moved up and tried to follow it,
but they had the level off.
But they couldn't do that maneuver.
Nothing that I know could do a maneuver like that.
just cut like that and go straight up.
And when I looked back,
it was like everything was normal.
And then when I looked out the window again
for the third time, everything was gone.
I didn't see any jets.
I didn't see any of the mess.
Wow.
So I'm assuming that these jets were military then, right?
Is that what they looked like?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, they look like F-14s.
I mean, they look like military jets.
They were definitely tagging this and following this at a distance.
And they were coming up on it fast.
So all this happened.
in like three, maybe five seconds.
But it seemed like it was maybe lessened that,
but it seemed like a long time
because I had enough time to look three times out the window
and the one time when I looked back,
nobody was moved.
I was like, what?
And then I looked back out the window again.
And then that's when it did its maneuver
and went straight up.
And the jets that were coming,
they tried to go and tried to go straight up too,
but they couldn't.
They couldn't do that maneuver.
They had to level off.
And then when I looked at,
back,
everybody was moving.
Everybody was like,
like nothing had happened.
It was very,
super strange.
Super strange.
Yeah,
I mean,
so do you think that,
uh,
that was kind of like
adrenaline pumping into you with,
with the way everything kind of seemed to slow down in the moment?
I don't know.
Um,
to say the truth,
that I have,
you know,
I've always thought,
uh,
that could be a possibility.
But it seemed like why would ever,
I don't know.
It was just,
it was so weird because everybody,
it was like frozen.
And then I remember because I looked at a couple people and it was like they were frozen.
And then when I look back, then I look back again, it was like they were normal.
I don't know if a journalist could do that.
I guess it's a possibility.
I would like not to say that it is, but I'm not quite sure.
Yeah.
Now, in that kind of situation and stuff, when you, when the experience was over and everything
seemed to go back to normal,
did you talk to anybody about it?
Did you say anybody else see that?
Or were you just kind of like, whoa, what just happened?
Let me keep this to myself.
I didn't want to say anything.
I just looked around and everybody, like, nothing happened.
It was like, I know, I was afraid to say,
did you guys just see what I thought out the window?
And have somebody say, oh, you know, you're, what are you talking about?
You know, because it seemed like nobody even noticed anything.
because I remember we were supposed to be writing down this theorem or whatever it was supposed to be.
We were writing.
All of us were writing on our notepads.
I remember that.
So that's why it was weird because when we looked back, when I looked back, everybody wasn't writing.
It was like they're all like just frozen.
And then when I looked again and the ship took off and after that, I looked back, everybody was just like writing again.
Yeah.
I mean, I've heard of people, you know, experience like near-de-down.
experiences and they say that everything slows down. It's like you're in the matrix or something
and everything slows down. And they attribute that to adrenaline. And I just, you know, I'm not sure.
Because I mean, I've also heard of weird experiences, especially with UFOs where people feel like
they went through like some kind of time slip or something like that. And so it's just one of those
weird things. The sphere that you saw, now you were trying to describe, you know, the way it looked,
would you just describe it as more of like a black glossy metallic looking thing?
Yeah.
It was almost, it was it was circular.
It was perfect circle.
But it was like dull black metallic.
Because it was almost like the sun because it was a bright day.
There were no clouds.
It was almost like the sun.
You could see the sun shining off of it.
It had that kind of shimmer off of it.
So, you know, it kind of threw off white like a metallic,
but not really super shiny, but dull.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now,
you see this thing,
in my mind,
it's going from right to left.
Is that the direction of when,
or was it going left to right?
No.
It would have been going left to right.
Okay.
It would have been going left to right.
Because that's the way the windows were facing in the school.
And it was an older school.
Yeah,
this is back in 1830.
and this is in a populated area.
I mean, this is in the suburbs.
So it was very, very strange.
How big was this sphere?
Well, it...
Maybe like compared to the jets.
To bury the jets, it trump, it was bigger than the jets.
So, like, probably one of the jets could have fit inside of the sphere.
Okay.
Like, as far as, like, how big it was,
because the jets looked smaller than the sphere did.
And that's why I couldn't believe anybody else was not seeing that in the window.
And so I looked back and that's when I looked back and everybody was like frozen.
And I was like, okay, well, that's weird.
And I look back again and that's when the thing like shot straight up.
I mean, I know that there's no military craft that could do that.
And it's just kind of my brain was like, what did I just see?
Did I just see that?
Did I imagine this?
You know, and so I was afraid to say anything.
Like I said, I was afraid to say anything.
So I did not say anything.
And I just kind of kept that to myself.
I went home and told my mom about it.
She said, oh, you just imagine that.
You're daydreaming.
Okay.
Yeah.
I guess I was daydreaming.
You know, so very strange.
Yeah, well, it's one of the things that, you know, with me having my son now,
if he ever comes home and tells me he sees something weird,
I'm really going to try to not say, oh, you were just seeing things.
you're daydreaming, things like that.
I think it'd be easier for me not to do that because of the show that I have,
so I'm already thinking along those lines.
But, you know, knowing my luck, my son will never see anything anyways,
and my life will be boring.
So you never know.
You really don't know.
So it's happening more.
That's true.
And I believe there is a phenomena going on that we don't quite understand.
And eventually, you know, we'll get the answer to this question.
might not be before we live this earth, but eventually we will.
Yeah.
Now, with the idea of these jets pursuing this sphere,
were they approaching the sphere with ease?
Was this sphere running away from them,
or were they approaching the sphere and the sphere is just doing its thing,
and then as it got too close, it shot up in the air?
No, the sphere was like hovering, but, like, moving really slow.
It was almost hovering, but it was, like, moving.
These jets were closing in.
And once they, you know, because I looked and I saw the jets,
I was like, oh, those are coming in fast.
And then I looked back and everybody was frozen.
And I looked like, what?
And I looked back again.
And by that time, they were even closer.
And that's when it did its maneuver and went straight up.
And they had no ability to follow that at all.
Right.
They tried.
When it shot straight up, did it go straight up out of sight?
Or were you able to still see it?
Like, did it shoot up straight and then stop?
No, it went past.
I cannot, I cannot see it.
It went like out of my views from the window.
The window I cut off and I couldn't see it anymore.
Man, that's got to be crazy.
I mean, you're 13 years old.
You're sitting in class.
I mean, you're dealing with the peer pressure of social anxieties and stuff when you're in school.
And you see a freaking UFO that's a sphere black being chased by fighter jets.
It shoots straight up in the sky.
They can't do anything about it.
You're looking around.
And times like slowing down, like you had this weird experience.
and you had to go through the rest of the day acting like nothing happened.
That's got to be weird, man.
Yeah, yeah, it was.
And then, you know, when I went home and I told my mom about it, you know,
and she told me that, and I was like, you know, you know, you start second gazing herself.
Maybe, you know, did I, but, you know, now I know what I saw.
You know, I know what I saw.
So I'm sticking to my story and that's, you know, and that's it.
I know what I saw.
And I've seen, you know, I've had another experience.
then so I know and there's just too many occasions where people have seen things that they can't
explain some can be explained but there's some that cannot I'm a true believer that this phenomenon
is happening it's been going on for a long time yeah a lot longer than we've been on this planet
let's put it that one yeah and I think that anybody who denies that the UFO phenomenon isn't
happening is either choosing to be ignorant or they just they they they really
really, I don't know. I mean, clearly there are unidentified flying objects in the sky. Like,
that's, like, I don't know how anybody can refute that anymore. I mean, just the very definition.
I'm not saying they're extraterrestrial. I'm not saying they're demonic. I'm not saying any of that.
I'm just saying strictly off the definition of UFO. How can you say that that doesn't happen?
I have a guy at work here. He thinks that, uh, I'm crazy for the Bigfoot stuff and all this thing, right?
But, and he, he goes to church and I said to him, well, you believe in UFOs, right?
And he's like, no, I don't believe in any of it. And I said, you don't believe in UFOs? And I said,
and he goes, no. And I said to him, well, all right. And he said something. And I said, well,
you believe in demons. And he goes, no, don't believe in demons. I'm like, dude, you don't believe in
demons? And he's like, no, I don't believe in any of it. I'm like, do you believe in God?
And he's like, yeah. I'm like, well, how does this work?
How can you, that doesn't work both ways.
You can't just, it works both ways there.
So if there's one, there's the other.
It's almost like he just, all the, all the negative stuff, he just, I don't believe in it.
I just don't believe in it.
You know, who's seen a half yin yang circle, you know, there's a reason.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So I just find it funny how there's, there are still people out there to just deny.
They deny, deny, deny that nothing, nothing is out there.
They want to stay inside their box.
They don't want to think outside of that box because it makes them on.
comfortable. And that's what it boils down to you. Absolutely. Absolutely. But I am finding more and more
that people are more open and willing to accept that there are weird things happening around us.
You know, maybe not to the extreme that some others do, but there are a lot of people out there
are just like, yeah, there's weird stuff that happens. You know what I mean? Because when I first
started doing all this stuff, I mean, I'm a truck driver. And the guys that clown me, they're like,
what are you doing? You know, it's stupid. Whatever.
And now those very same guys are now tagging me in articles that they find on the internet.
I'm like, so who's looking for what?
You know, these guys are finding articles about UFO or Bigfoot or ghosts and they're
tagging me in it because they know I'll be interested in it.
They read it first, you know what I mean?
That's funny.
Yeah, it is funny.
Well, why don't we move on to your next experience?
And this is, you know, you're an adult now at 2005.
I think you said you were catfishing.
So, you know, what happened?
Yeah.
Well, my buddy and I, he lives at this private lake-gated community, you know, nice lake, nice houses.
Really nice catfish in there.
You don't catch anything under 10 pounds.
And so we are sitting out there at night.
We started at 9 p.m. catching catfish, release and catch release.
You know, we keep a couple, and I don't keep it a lot because that's just what I do.
but the night was going on.
It was late.
It was like one, one o'clock.
And the moon was super bright up in the sky.
We're sitting there and no bites for a while.
Cracked a couple beers and we're talking.
And like, hey, man, my buddy goes, hey, dude, moon is awesome, man.
Check that out.
And I was like, yeah, it is.
And right as we're looking at the moon, right as we're looking at the moon,
something comes around the moon.
And it's brighter than a star.
I mean, it looks like a star, but it's bright.
I mean, it's super bright.
And it comes around the moon and it's like heading like right towards us.
And my buddy's like, you see that?
I'm like, what are we looking at?
And it like kind of stops, but it's like, it's very far away.
It's like, looks like, but it's, you know how you look at stars up in the sky?
We see how far they are.
This thing was like way up there, but it was super bright.
And we watched this.
And the light on it was white.
It was pure white.
we watched this thing zigzag its way.
It was intelligent controlled because it went one maneuver and it zigzag, another maneuver, zigzag, another maneuver, zigzag, all the way across the sky, stopped for one second and then shot off.
And when it shot off, it left like a trail.
I don't know if you, I'm sure you've seen Star Trek.
You know when the Star Trek ship takes off and that line comes off the back of it, that's what this did.
So it crossed our area, the whole sky.
I mean, it went from one side of horizon to the other.
We watched this thing.
And it was probably a good five minutes,
and then it shot off to where we couldn't see it.
And my buddy turned to me and I was like,
what did we just see?
He's like, I don't know.
I couldn't even grab my phone.
And I was like, we were both standing there with our mouth wide open.
I was like, we just saw UFO.
He's like, did you see how that took?
took off and I was like, yeah, you saw that too. So it was very surreal. For it to come,
you could definitely see it came from the back side of the moon as we were looking at the moon.
It came around the moon and then started coming right towards, well, which would be the earth,
stopped, and then zigzagged in a pattern all the way across the sky, stopped again,
and then shot off. And this thing was constant bright. I mean,
My wife and I, we stargays.
We go see meteor showers.
We have a spot here that we go.
It's really far out from the city.
And I've seen meteor showers.
I know what shooting stars look like.
I know what the space station looks like.
I know what the satellites look like.
This thing wasn't that at all.
It wasn't a satellite.
A satellite will be in one constant motion
going all the way across the sky.
It won't zigzag.
The space station, same thing.
It's in orbit.
It's one motion.
This was not an orbit.
This was actually flying through the area and then leaving the system.
It was very, very, very cool.
Yeah, I mean, it definitely sounds like a cool experience to see something like that.
Now, I guess when you say it came around the moon,
you say that because you probably saw the light itself illuminate
as it came out from behind the moon?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
So we were looking at the moon, and the moon was full.
There's not a half moon, it wasn't a quarter moon, it was a full moon.
And from the full moon, and it was almost orangeish, so it was a summertime.
From that full moon, around the moon came this light.
Like he had grabbed its orbit and came around and was like headed, and it looked like he was headed right towards us in our direction.
Light was getting brighter, and then it stopped.
I was like, what?
and we were both just dumbfounded, and we sit there and look and looked and watch this thing zigzag its way across the sky.
Brighter than any star in the sky.
Brighter than any star I've seen in the morning.
You know, when you get up early in the morning, you might look at Mars and it's a limelinator,
or you might look at another star, and it's a little brighter than that.
It was amazing.
Both of us were dumbfounded.
I can imagine.
I'm assuming that it was far enough way that you didn't hear anything.
No. I could not hear anything. It was far away. It looked like it was flying in orbit. Like if you saw, like a star, it looked four times brighter. And it was moving amongst the stars. You could see it flying in a zigzag pattern. And it was, I mean, it was covering distances that were like large distances in like no time at all. So its maneuvers were definitely.
definitely intelligent and how you could travel that rate of speed and that distance to get to
the to where you needed to get I don't think that we have that and I don't know we might might
have that technology but I don't think I've ever heard of it so I know I know for sure that
that that wasn't I just can't see how that could be something we have or someone else has
yeah I mean and I agree with you I do think that there's a lot of
technology that we don't know that they have, that they do have, but that seems to be pretty
advanced. Like, that seems to be on another level of comprehension. Yeah. I mean, like, that's really,
like, I mean, you're not talking about just technology. You're talking about physics and what we know
about physics and what we know about these things that here, you know, on Earth, our scientists,
you know, they wouldn't know how that is possible. You know what I mean? So it's right. I'm not a
scientists either, but I can tell you this. I don't think that we have the capability to do the
maneuvers at this speed and where it was at. I don't think, I mean, we get to the space station,
you know? Yeah. And back, you know what I'm saying? No, this was way beyond what we have.
The way you're describing it, it sounds like, I mean, imagine if there was one of, one of us,
a human being in that, in that whatever it was. Okay. So, say,
you know, it was a ship and somebody's inside.
The way you're describing the maneuvering
to what I know about science,
it sounds like whoever's in that is going to have their brains scrambled.
You know, like, because it's so fast and such sharp maneuvering,
I mean, you're going to break your neck at the first sharp move.
My buddy and I were so dumbfounded.
We sat there.
We stopped fishing.
We could have kept fishing.
We could have kept more catfish.
easily. We stopped fishing, packed our stuff up, and we drove home. And all we could say is,
what did we see? Do you think that was what we saw? And I was like, dude, are you serious right now?
Do you see how that thing moved across? It was like, it was brighter than a start. He's like,
yeah. And we just couldn't wrap our heads around it. We could not wrap our heads around it.
And the fact that we left early, I wasn't even mad about that. And usually I'm mad about that
because when you're catching 10, 12-pound, 15-pound catfish, that's kind of fun.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Do you noodle or do you use a rod?
No, use the rod.
Rod, and reel.
Okay.
I don't know if you want to do that's a garage.
Oh, no, these things, these things you can't set your rod down.
It's not like you don't set your rod down.
Otherwise, you're buying new gear.
They hit that hard around with it.
So you have to hold on your rod.
It scares the heck living the Jesus out of you when they hit it and they run.
So it's kind of fun.
Yeah.
Watch everybody's reaction when they get a bite.
Absolutely.
I see those people.
who, you know, they go in the water and they put their arms down the hole and let this catfish bite
down on their arm.
And that's all that.
Dude, that's, I'm not brave enough for that.
That's another level, man.
That's like, you know where my brain goes when I see that?
My brain would go snapping turtle.
Yes.
You can't do that.
Exactly.
The people have lost their arms doing that.
I mean, they literally have lost their arms because a catfish chomped down on.
Those things are strong, you know?
I'll use a poll any day over that.
Absolutely.
You know, with this UFO that you saw come out from behind the moon,
did you ever get a sense that it was aware of you being there watching it?
No.
No.
Okay.
I just felt like we were gifted enough to see that.
Because I couldn't believe it.
I just really, and we both talk about it today.
Every time we go fishing, we are always looking up now every time we go
I've been out to that lake several more times,
wanting that to happen again. It's not.
It's not happen.
And
it was just something special, and I felt like
we were blessed. I was like, do you know what we just witnessed
for this is proof? To me,
this was proof, you know, and I've always
believed in it, and I've had two
sightings in my lives. The first one, you know,
was dismissed because some of people, I don't know how many
people told me I was crazy. You know,
that's just how, that's how it is. When you talk about
these things and it's outside of the box, people don't
want to listen. They don't. If they can't
wrap their heads around it.
They think you're crazy or you, you know, you're just loony.
But knowing, you know, what I saw and this one in my buddy, he believes too, you know,
he's had a couple experiences.
And it's just something that I felt like we were blessed to witness because I was, that's
not ours.
That can't be ours.
You know, that's not something where we, we, we, that's not from this earth.
So, no.
I believe that this phenomenon has been going on for a long time.
I'm a strong belief in that.
I've done a lot of reading and on that.
And, like, you know, there's too many, there's too much evidence.
You know, you can't wrap it all into, like, some of the shows that are on TV that they want to just say it's strictly this.
But if you look at some of the places, for instance, Puma Puku, and going back to things like that,
it was just an other way that those things were built back in that time when,
mankind didn't have that technology. That involves mathematics, complex mathematics, and stonework
and cutting tools. I just believe that they've been coming here for a long time, and I don't
know why they're here or what they're here for, but I'm true believer they've been visiting.
Maybe it's just for observation, or who knows? Eventually, we'll get the answer, like I had said before,
but right now, it's all up in the air. Yeah, no, I absolutely agree with you, man. And who knows?
I mean, maybe there's multiple things going on here.
Maybe there is extra treasure, but maybe that's not what all UFOs are.
You know, it's just, it's just, it's very true.
It's very much, these subjects are things that we need to keep open minds about.
That's why we did the Think Tank a few weeks ago because it's...
Oh, I loved that show. That was an awesome show.
Awesome, man. I'm glad you liked it.
It all started because I was listening to Sasquatch Chronicles when Wes interviewed Tim.
and they for like the last half hour they went off and they just kind of vented and
spoke their mind about some things. I was like, we need to do this. And so I got the group of guys
together and we did it. And I knew it was going to be okay going into it with the four guys that
I had because I knew we were all low ego guys. Like I mean, we weren't going to overtalk each other.
We weren't going to try coming in with agendas. We were just literally coming to the table to think
openly. And I think it came across that way. I got a lot of good reviews on it. So that's,
you know, I'm glad you enjoyed it. But the whole thing was very entertaining. Good. And that's the
point. I mean, obviously, the point is to be entertained. But also the point is to, you know,
encourage people to think outside the box. And that's something that I've been really trying to do.
Ever since I started doing all this kind of stuff is just, you know, you can't box yourself in with any one
particular philosophy with any of these subjects, as soon as you start boxing yourself in and say,
oh, I know, I know this about Bigfoot, that it's a hairy biped that walks upright and is a relic
hominid.
As soon as you introduce the idea of relic hominid to the rest of the equation, it excludes so many
other possibilities.
And when you box yourself in like that, and then somebody else comes along and introduces a new
piece of information to you, you're more reluctant to.
to accept it because it doesn't fit your paradigm that you have already established and felt comfortable
with. And that's with a lot of these different things. And so that's why it's very important to
keep your mind open as to what any of this is, you know, whether it's UFOs, demonic stuff, aliens,
Bigfoot, dog man, doesn't matter what it is to keep an open mind as to what the possibilities are,
because it's okay to have these thoughts and ideas like we shared our thoughts on the show,
but I'm not willing to die for any of those ideas.
You know what I mean?
Like, like, I'm fine with somebody coming along,
showing me something that totally blows my idea out of the water
because, you know, that's how you remain open-minded.
So, yeah, I think with the UFO stuff, man,
I think it could be possibly multiple things.
I mean, who's to say that there's not another dimension coming through
and we're seeing some other dimension?
He just don't know.
You just don't know.
I mean, you hear people talk about it.
Our brains are...
Go ahead.
Yeah, our brains are so small compared to, you know, really.
What we use for our brain, most of our brain, we're not using.
You know, so it's like, there's a lot out there we could probably absorb.
I don't think that we're ready, and that's probably why we're not using that much.
I agree.
I agree.
And, you know, there's so many things we can go down the rabbit hole with and stuff with that,
because, I mean, I think there's technology.
Well, I don't want to say technology because that's too broad, but there's things that human
beings can do today that I don't think were originally in the intent for mankind to know how to do.
And I think that all comes down to the fallen angel concept of them coming and actually
showing us how to do certain things in sorcery and things like that.
So yeah, it's interesting stuff, though.
It's an interesting life we live.
And I think people need to, you know, understand that, you know, this life,
that we live is very mysterious. And if you can accept that there's a lot of mystery still out in the
universe, you're going to have a lot more fun in life. You know, this is bottom line. If you can
accept the fact that... Especially when it opens, especially when it opens up. And that way,
you know, you've given it some thought and you're able to maybe process it a little bit better.
Because if you're not, and that opens up, it's probably just blow your mind. Your mind just goes,
poof, you know? Absolutely.
You know, that's one of the things that concern me. You know, if disclosure ever comes,
with any of these subjects and like official disclosure, whether it's the government, a third party,
but there's official like, this is for real. It really concerns me what people are going to do
in response, especially people that are very sensitive with their faith and stuff, where they may
not have spent a whole lot of time with considering the possibilities. Like, let's just say aliens are
real. And there's beyond a shadow doubt the aliens are real now. And we know this. I think that you're going to
see a lot of Christians, not just Christians, but people of faith, lose their faith, or walk away
from their faith, because for whatever reason, it just does not compute in their mind that the two
could possibly exist on the same level. And, and I think that's...
For that, I just don't understand that. You know, I couldn't understand that, because for me,
when I, for no, spiritually what I know, it's, that's just straight evidence of it's the truth.
Yeah.
So like you said, it's whether people want to decide to think outside of the box
out of their comfort zone and if they're able to do it.
Absolutely.
Well, Roland, I really appreciate coming on and sharing these stories and stuff.
It's always nice to have a UFO story like yours where there was interaction involved
and you saw the jets pursuing it and you saw this thing come out from behind the moon.
That's pretty intense, man.
That's pretty cool stuff.
So I really appreciate coming on and sharing that with us.
Well, I'm honored to be on the show, and I appreciate you giving me a platform to talk about it,
because I really don't share these stories a lot.
It's just a good therapy for me because I told my wife and my other buddy.
I don't talk about that to anyone else because when I have, I usually have to get shut it down
because they just don't want to hear about it.
Yeah, that's typical.
So I really appreciate what you're doing.
I think it's a great platform, and I'll be listening.
That's for sure.
Awesome, man.
Well, I really appreciate it. Take care.
All right. Thank you. You too.
Bye. Bye. Bye.
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Tristan, how you doing, man?
Yeah, good thanks, mate.
You're self?
I'm doing well.
I'm doing well.
It's about 10 to, no, actually, it's what?
11, 20 after 11, my time here in Pennsylvania.
What time is there in Australia?
It is, it's about 10 to 1 in the afternoon.
10 to 1 in the afternoon.
So you're there on Sunday.
I'm here on Saturday.
We were talking about that earlier, and I think it's pretty cool. So happy Easter to you.
Thank you very much. And happy Easter to you for tomorrow.
All right. Right on, man. Thank you. So you told me that your friend had a very unique
experience with his son, who was, I think, four years old at the time. I could be wrong on that.
But if you could just walk us into exactly what happened. What did he experience?
Okay. So about 12 years ago,
He had a son that was nine years old at the time, but that son was born with a lot of health issues.
And by the time he was nine, he'd already had three open heart surgeries, just unfortunately a very unhealthy little boy.
And he got sick when he was nine and was admitted to hospital.
And he had to stay there for quite a few months in an induced coma on dialysis because they were trying to help his body fight the infect.
So they had him, yeah, induced so that his heart didn't have to work so hard.
And they could have him on dialysis to help keep his blood clean.
And, yeah, so my mate and his wife, they would sort of alternate nights where they would go in and stay with their little boy.
And one night, my mate came back in from having a meal and slipped over on a pillow in the hospital room.
And he ended up knocking himself out.
He came to a few minutes later with doctors and nurses around him,
and they sort of explained to him that, you know, he'd been out cold
and, you know, he asked all the normal questions they do when someone gets knocked out.
And, yeah, that was sort of the thing that happened to my mate.
And unfortunately, yeah, a few weeks later, his nine-year-old boy died.
And then, well, I think it was a month after his nine-year-old died,
him and his wife found out that they were pregnant again with another son, which was kind of a medical anomaly because his wife's was told that she's medically unable to fall pregnant.
So them getting pregnant was quite a surprise to them.
This boy was then born and at age four.
My mate was sitting in the lounge room one night and his four-year-old walked into the lounge room.
he said he had quite a glazed look over his face.
His eyes were open, but he wasn't really looking at anyone.
He wasn't really focusing.
He's sort of, yeah, he was like almost sleepwalking.
And his four-year-old asked him if his head was okay.
So he asked his son, what do you mean?
What do you mean, is my head okay?
I'm fine.
And his four-year-old said, when you fell over in the hospital and hit your head,
and he's like, oh, no, mate, I'm fine.
No, my head's fine.
And, yeah, didn't really think too much of it.
The little boy turned around and went back into his bedroom.
And he sort of was sitting there thinking, hang on a minute, like, the only person that
knew that he'd fallen over in the hospital and knocked himself out was his wife.
He hadn't spoken to his wife or any friends about the incident that happened in the hospital
with him falling over and knocking himself out.
You know, around his four-year-old, he just had no idea how his four-year-old would have any
idea that that incident happened to him. The next morning, when his four-year-old got up,
he asked him, he asked him, you know, how come you came out and asked me about my head? And as best
as a four-year-old can articulate, his four-year-old had no idea what he was talking about. So he
kind of was like, okay, that's a bit strange. So he asked him, you know, do you not remember coming
out asking me how my head was? And yeah, the four-year-old had no idea what he was talking
about. So my mate was thinking, you know, okay, that's a bit strange. You thought possibly because
his other son that died at age nine and then they fell pregnant a month later that maybe
the other son came back through his next son who was, yeah, the four-year-old. So he's kind
of thinking that, yeah, a spirit crossed over. They call that son a miracle child because
obviously they're medically unable to get pregnant, but then felt.
pregnant after the death of their other son. So yeah, he kind of thinks, yeah, it was a bit of a
spiritual thing and that the other son came back through the second son to check on his dad.
And he was a bit of a trip. Yeah. Yeah. So when you say that, do you mean he believes that
his son was reincarnated into his new son? Or how does that? I think that's what he was implying. He's
He's a man a few words.
So, yeah, he didn't really say too much.
And obviously it was quite a upsetting story to him, sort of telling me about the death of his first son.
I'd work with this guy for 15 years.
The incident happened about 12 years ago.
Yeah, I've known him for 15 years, and he only told me that incident.
I think when I first sent you that email was the day after he first told me.
So, yeah, 12 years after the incident was the first.
time you sort of ever really told anybody. So I was quite, I was quite honored that he, uh,
felt comfortable enough with me to share that story. But yeah, it was, it was, it was a, it was a,
uh, pulled on the old heartstrings, that's for sure. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, anytime there's a
kid involved that passes away, it's a very emotional story. And, uh, you know, I, I wonder, you know,
what's going on there because clearly something happened, you know, whether it's a reincarnation issue
or a spirit visiting the little brother kind of thing. I mean, when you were telling the story,
that's exactly what I was thinking at first that, you know, maybe, you know, the little brother
was visited by the big brother, you know, and said, hey, asked that if his head's okay.
Yeah. But so when you, when your friend heard, or actually I should say, when your friend,
friend told you this story, what were your thoughts on and stuff? Have you ever heard anything like
that before? No, never. I'd never heard anything like that at all. It was, yeah, it was,
it was definitely mind-blowing. Yeah. So what do you think about reincarnation and stuff? I mean,
do you think that's kind of like what's happening here or do you have different opinions?
Well, personally, I'm sort of not the most religious, spiritual person. Well, actually, I could
Probably say maybe spiritual, not religious.
Okay.
Yeah, so I think definitely something was going on there for the four-year-old to know about the incident that happened in the hospital, which no one apart from my mate and his wife knew about.
There obviously has to be something on another level going on there.
So, yeah, like, I can't really explain it.
It's just, yeah, a mind trip.
Yeah, yeah, I'd say so.
I wish, I just wish we, like, because I'm assuming that's the only time that's ever happened, right?
Yes, yeah. And he said that's nothing like that had happened before, nothing like that had ever
happened since. It was just that one-off. Wow. Yeah, I'll be really interested in hearing if he ever
has any other experiences that come along his way with that stuff because, uh, it's fascinating,
just because that's a story that the kid should never have known. And, uh, exactly. He,
and, and you said that he kind, the kid kind of came out.
out looking like he he saw a ghost or something like that right?
I think I think the way he explained it was more like he was sleepwalking.
He was I gotcha.
He was, you know, yeah, he was upright walking, talking, eyes were opened.
He said, but there was just no focus to his eyes.
He wasn't actually looking at my mate.
He was sort of just staring off into the distance and just started talking to him.
And he said it was in his normal voice.
There wasn't like another voice that was taking over.
he just said that his boy came out and was just yeah like almost in in a day so I'm not quite
sure if he saw the ghost I think it is more like the way he explained it I think definitely
the spirit of of the other son came back through his his younger son and whether he was the
spirit was in the in the boy the youngest one at the time or whether he just conveyed the
message I'm not quite sure yeah yeah that's that's that's fact
Fascinating. That's really fascinating. I used to sleepwalk all the time when I was a kid. And, you know, my parents would tell me, you know, hey, last night you came out and did this, that, and the other, I had no recollection of whatsoever. And I imagine in those kind of states of mind, because you're in a state of mind where you're actually able to communicate with people, you're able to move around and all that stuff, but you just don't, you're not there, you know, mentally all the way.
And I just wonder if that state of mentality has anything to do with, you know, his susceptibility to, you know, having this experience, whether it was something communicating with him or, you know, another spirit from another life. I don't know. It's just, it's, it's really interesting. Before we get out of here, I'll tell you a, a funny little story with me sleepwalk when I was a kid. I was about, I think I was like an eighth grade or ninth. No, I was about eighth.
grade. And I was sleepwalking. And I walked out of my bedroom and my grandparents were over. And I walk
over to the couch and I sit down right between my grandparents. So my grandmother's on my right
hand side and my grandfather's on my left hand side. And I wake up. And I realize I'm in my
boxers sitting in between my grandparents. And I was so embarrassed. I pretended I was still asleep.
And I just got up. My dad was like, why don't you go to bed time? I'm like, okay. And I just get up and I walk into my bedroom and stuff. I was so embarrassed. And every time my parents asked me about it, I told him, I said, no, I don't remember doing that.
They will now if they listen to your podcast. Yeah. Well, you know, it is what it is. But, well, Tristan, I really appreciate you coming on and sharing that little story with us because it's just, it's one of the stories you don't have very many answers for, but it's very, it's very fascinating. And it's an anomaly, you know?
Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, no worry. It's not a problem.
All right, Tristan, well, you take care. And if you ever hear anything else about this guy and his story with his son, please get a hold of me.
Yeah, too easy, mate. We'll do.
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