The Confessionals - 97: Bigfoot Staring Back At Me
Episode Date: November 13, 2018In Episode 97, we bring on guests David and Kim to their individual stories. First, David recounts how one night, while practicing his music up in the mountains, he looked into the rearview m...irror of his SUV and saw a face he will never forget - the face of a bigfoot! David also shares a few paranormal experiences that left a deep impression on him. Following David’s interview, guest Kim joins us all the way from Belgium to share his own paranormal experiences, from seeing shadow figures to dating a white witch!Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Outro Music : ONLAP - "Fight Like The Devil"ITUNES : https://itunes.apple.com/fr/artist/onlap/id339918784 (also on AMAZON)SPOTIFY : https://open.spotify.com/album/6cdhj56E1MF3azjkmu7Gv0 (also on DEEZER)YOUTUBE : https://www.youtube.com/user/OnlapMusikFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/ONLAP.Official
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This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed
to talk about it.
I saw three long bony fingers.
reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear.
When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.
And he starts running and firing at this giant.
With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast.
And spears, Dan, holds him up like this.
Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
They basically decapitated.
Got closer, got closer, got closer, when he got about 15 yards away from me, I raised that 12 days and I blow this head on.
I feel something pulling at my leg, and I look over and there are two small gray entities pulling it.
And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed.
I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air.
Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster.
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up to become patrons. It really means a lot to me. Thank you very much. Now this week's show,
we have David coming on and we have Kim Kammer.
on, but David will be first, and he's going to share his big foot experience when he was up in the
mountains practicing his music in his SUV. When he looked in his rearview mirror, he describes the face
of this thing that he saw. And then he shared some paranormal experiences that he had. And then we
bring on Kim, who actually had a lot of different paranormal experiences, including him dating a
white witch, seeing shadow figures, and finding bones in his home that were not originally there.
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Okay, tonight I have a great guest coming on.
I have David.
And David, how you doing, man?
I'm doing really great, Tony.
Thank you.
How are you doing?
I'm doing good.
So we have some good stuff here to talk about.
You first contacted me about a Bigfoot experience you had, and we're going to get into that right away.
But then you have some more paranormal things you'd like to talk about that happened at a friend's house.
and you actually saw a full body apparition
another time.
So we'll get into that a little bit later here,
but let's just start out with the Bigfoot experience.
Let us know what you were doing
and how did this all unfold for you.
Okay.
Let's see.
From the beginning.
Well, at the time,
I was living in Carson City, Nevada.
And if you know Carson City, Nevada,
I'm sure some listeners do.
It's just a flat land,
but you got the Sierra's to the west.
and there's a spot
what's called King Street
and you can get King Street
all the way up the timber line
and that's where I used to go
and park my car late at night
and play guitar, sing, write music.
That way I can like, whoa, you know,
sing really loud and not worry about
people hearing me.
Right.
And so, yeah, and I've done that many times.
Well, this one night,
and this was 2003,
and I was up there and I was playing, I was writing,
and I was really grooving on what I was doing.
I was really impressed.
I'm like, yes, I got a new song.
And then I hear something.
I hear something rad on.
Of course, I have my windows down for circulation.
But I hear something in the bushes.
Now, mind you, it was a very well-lit night.
Was it a full moon or just passed?
Something like that.
It was very bright.
so I'm like all right
it's probably a I don't know
rabbit you know there's a lot of rabbits
out there so I don't think anything
of it and and so I just keep jamming away
and so you know duty calls so I get out
and mind you I'm in nature there's no bathroom
so I go out and I do my thing
and then I hear more shaking
and it sounds big
and it sounds kind of freaking
so I finished my business really
quick and I get back in the car
it was an SUV and then I roll up the window a little
bit you know like just enough so no arm
can come in and uh you know
and uh so I started playing some more
and then you know I just have been so so light outside
I happened to like kind of look in the back
and at that time actually I thought it might have been
somebody hiking but I feel that's not
That's not really, that's not what really happens.
It's late and you're up in the mountains.
But then I hear this stuff again and the sagebrush,
and sagebrush gets big out there.
And there's rattling and rattling.
I look at my rearview mirror.
And I see, I see this face.
I think I see a face, right?
A big, big face.
It was a big face.
and I didn't know what to think of it
so I
put on my brakes
so it would light up red
in the back
and sure not
there was this big face
staring at me
I mean I like to think
he was a fan of my music
but you know there's a big old
face there with a heavy brow
a heavy brow
and then hair on the sides
right it looked exactly
like Mr. Hyde
from
uh what's that uh van hills it looked just like that huge head except he wasn't smoking a cigar
but a huge head heavy brow big i couldn't see past what looked like lamb chops you know the hair
on the side yeah but uh heavy head and and as soon as i did that in what's really weird about
that is that it takes a few seconds of realization of terror
you know you see it you're looking at it for a second and then all of a sudden holy crap
oh my goodness i'm out i turn on i turn on my car i'm just out of there and it wasn't easy to do
because it's a very bumpy ride but i i think i damaged my my suspension going down the hill
but i was going so fast and it was so scary and i was like wow i just saw like some big gigantic
Now, mind you, that movie Van Helsing hadn't been out until the next year.
And then when I watched Van Helsing at the drive-in in Sacramento with my then-wife,
I was like, that's what I saw, you know, except without the cigar.
So that was my Bigfoot experience.
If it was, but if it was a Bigfoot, it was really Neanderthal-like.
Yeah.
You know, protruding, protruding mouth, a very protruding brow, and just hair along the roots.
I'm sure he was full of hair, but what I could see would look like giant, like, you know, English-style lamb chops or whatever you call them.
So, yeah, that was my, that was my so-called Bid's foot experience.
Scared the living daylights having me.
And, neither of the say, I started playing guitar in my own home.
after that. I didn't care if my roommates heard me or not. If I screw them, I'm just going to play.
Yeah. Well, I mean, what was your knowledge of, you know, Bigfoot before this, you know,
encountered? Did you ever hear of it? Did you know about it? Did you believe in it? Or was that
something that was the furthest thing away from your mind when you saw this thing? Not at all. Not at all.
Bookfoot was nothing to me. Bigfoot was, oh, I'm sure there's something up there in the great northwest.
No, I really never thought that it would be in Carson City, Nevada, you know, right there by Lake Tahoe.
I never thought I would do that.
The thing is, it was either a Neanderthalbaskatch or was just a real big deformed person.
But it really rocked my world, man.
It really did.
And never had nightmares about it.
because I moved far away,
moved back to Sacramento.
I don't think he'd follow me there.
And, yeah,
that was actually right before I left Nevada,
going back to stock.
So, yeah, that's my,
that's my big foot experience.
Yeah.
So with this face that you saw
in the bushes and stuff,
I mean, you said it was big.
I mean, could you tell us,
like, how big it was,
like,
the size of a basketball,
a beach ball,
how big was this thing?
Oh, I see the,
well, all I saw was the head,
okay?
And if I can look back on it,
right now,
my mind. I'd say it was as big as a basketball. It wasn't as big as a beach ball.
Okay.
I'd say it was a little, I don't want to say anything false. I would say at least the size of a basketball.
And, you know, if I see anybody with a head, like, oh, how about a pumpkin? That's even better.
Because those are, those can get huge. But I have to say, it was just an ungodly giant head.
Yeah. And like I said, I got to that point.
where complete terracritin.
And I just hightailed it out of there.
I was scared.
But now that when I think about it,
I like to think that he was listening to my stuff
and going, yeah, man.
Sounds good.
You know.
Yeah, maybe he was rolling some doobies back there.
Actually, you know what?
I wouldn't be surprised if he found some roaches
on the side of my car.
I'm from California, man.
Yeah, I mean, maybe he's smelling.
it came in for a drag.
Yeah, and you liked it.
And music, even if it sucks,
it sounds way better on pot.
So anyway.
Awesome.
Well, I mean,
do you remember seeing the head move at all
or eyes blink?
I saw it looking right at me.
No blinks.
Looking right at me.
Looking right at,
I saw a lip move.
I did see a lip move,
but I didn't see,
teeth. I didn't see
eyes blink. I didn't
see any facial picture, but I
did see
a lip move. Like,
I can't even explain
how the lip move is like a
like
like an elvous
going to remote. It's kind of a
so yeah. So that was that.
And I went back here again
too with my now
girlfriend of six and a half
years. And I said it's so
beautiful. There's a waterfall up here.
So beautiful.
I saw a big
crazy dude and it was
cool. And she's like, right on.
She's into it.
And yeah, I took her up there, but nothing happens.
Well, that's probably a good thing.
I mean, you don't want to push your luck.
Hey, here, take my girl,
leave me.
I'm joking. I'm joking.
But that would have been an experience if she got
to have.
because she's kind of like
she's not a knower like I am.
She's more of a believer.
I'd like her to be a knower.
Yeah, well.
So that was that.
Yeah, man.
That's not every day somebody gets to, you know,
see a face in the bushes looking back at
and whether it's Bigfoot or not, you know.
But it can definitely be scary.
I mean, when you're out there in the middle of the night
and you see somebody looking at you.
So, yeah, well, I will let you know this.
It was about 11.30 at night.
and if you're out there at 11.30 night, I mean, I have my windows down, you know, because it was kind of warm.
I like circulation.
But if I was to be outside just chilling in the bushes, I would have been freezing.
I don't think it was a person, and I've never seen a person with a head that freaking big.
Yeah.
And so I believe it was a task watch. I really do.
Yeah, well, you know, it sounds like it. I mean, especially when you say that the head was, you know, abnormally large and huge and Neanderthal looking and things like that. I mean, that's really some of the classic things that people talk about when it comes to Bigfoot. So, you know, who knows, but that definitely sounds like a Bigfoot face to me. You know, why don't you talk to us a little bit about this full body apparition that you saw?
Sure, sure. Okay. Now, this, this, oh, man, this is a true.
Now, I've always believed in ghosts.
In fact, I thought they were just amazingly cool.
But I never thought I'd ever see one, right?
And so my girlfriend and I, we went up to Safeway or whatever.
Can I say company names like that?
Yeah, it's fine.
Okay, so we're coming back with some groceries.
You know, we had a thing or I'd pull her on a skateboard, you know?
Of course, I'm the donkey.
And so we come home.
And this is in Carmichael, California now, okay?
And I lived on, I forget the name of the street, Johnson Street, I think.
Anyway, so I'm going home and we walk into the house.
And I had a roommate and a daughter that we lived with.
There's a beautiful house, about 100 years old.
I lived there for six months.
Never had an issue.
Never felt weird.
But so they're in the back, the roommate and the daughter,
her in the back.
She's like rehearsing for her.
She's like a dancer or whatever, rehearsing for her dad.
And we come in and my girl, that I'm with right now, God bless her heart.
She says, hey, honey, we're home.
And as soon as she said that.
Now, let me show you, give you the lay in the land here.
You walk into the door, there's a kitchen on the right.
And on the left is like a hallway.
way. Well, it's just like a door area that you can walk through, but there's no door. It's just like a big rectangle of space. My bedroom's on the far left. The bathroom's in the middle and the guest bedrooms past that. So I'm walking in. And as soon as she said, hey, honey, we're home. I look and I see this dude walk from, it looks like my bedroom, our bedroom, past the bathroom, into,
to the guest bedroom and I heard the door lock shut.
I said,
babe,
I think,
I think Tony has a guest here,
man.
He just went out of our room when you said that.
I think we spooked him.
I think he was going through or stopped.
She's like,
no,
I'm like, yeah,
huh?
And so we went in there
and she was just going to go open the door
to the guest bedroom.
I said, wait a minute,
no, there's really somebody in there.
I just saw them walk and I heard the door shut.
And,
And we also, we had a lorikeet, which are really loud, right?
And so, but it didn't make a peep.
And so, first I said, just knocked.
And we knocked nothing.
So we walked in, nobody in the room.
I looked in the closet, nobody in there.
It was so weird.
And the bird was just chilling, you know, just chilling,
Lord Keith, you know, doing his thing.
And the windows are half moon
size. Like if the flat part
is down and then it's
the round is on top, it's like a
it's like a taco.
And it doesn't have a lock. It's stationary.
You can't open it. So nobody
could have gotten out. So
when I saw this, I was stripping.
So then we went over
to Tony, he was in the back room
with his daughter. I'm like, Tony, I just saw
somebody in your house, bro?
And he's like,
uh,
what do you look like?
And I said,
well,
he's about five feet tall,
the Hispanic,
possibly American Indian,
shorter hair,
not really shorter hair,
but like past the years,
wearing gray,
I'll never forget it,
gray boxer,
brief,
and nothing else.
And he was stocked
and he was built,
right?
So he says,
you know what,
I'm going to tell you,
sometimes when I'm laying at night,
I see,
what you just described to me
guy
fitting that description
walking towards my bed
and is vanishing right before the bed
I was like whoa
and then
so that was coinciding
right
and that was cool
and so because of that
we live next door
or two and I can drop these names down
because I don't know them anymore
but another due name
well never mind
I can't say it
because I don't remember his name.
Oh, Roger.
Roger.
Live next door to us.
And he was,
he's part of the Taps family.
You know the Taps family.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Ghost Hunters.
Well, they're part of that.
They're S-S-P-I, Sacramento paranormal investigators.
Well, he lived next door.
And, like, he was hanging out with guys like John Coffey,
you know, all those guys.
And so they.
set up a paranormal investigation in that house where I couldn't be in.
They even brought a psychic, which I don't know about them, but that night, there was no wind at
all.
And when they were summoning this apparition, the shed doors were slamming shut.
They had weird movement in the house, and the psychic picked up on a, I didn't tell you this
before the interview, but they picked up on a little girl.
who had tubes in her nose.
Well, Tony, the guy who owns it, lost his daughter and had died of some kind of a chest condition.
And I said there was a girl there, very friendly, is really close to your daughter, who has another daughter not.
Which made him, you know, just break down.
But he says there's also a Mexican gentleman that lived here or worked here when it was,
being built.
So that was that.
And so the psychists
kind of redeemed
everything that we saw.
And
yeah, and you know, that's
when you go from being
a believer to a nowhere, you know?
On both places,
Sasquatch, I'm a knower now.
The ghosts, I know they're there.
Which totally helps me,
because I'm scared of hell of death.
You know, I'm a
I'm scared of just not existing.
You know, I want to keep going on.
And, you know, with Christian beliefs, you don't.
You just keep going on.
And I'm really falling into that.
Thanks to you, I'm really getting into that.
But so that was that.
Yeah, you know, before we, I just want to comment on what you just said.
Because I was always scared of death my entire life.
And I think that's just a natural thing for people to be scared of death
and stuff. I mean, I'm much more mentally secure. Like, I'm not scared of death anymore like I was.
And obviously, that does have a lot to do with, you know, my faith. But I still do fear how I'm going to die,
you know, because that's just something that fear, that I think I'll always fear is the idea of
how it's going to happen because it could be slow and it could be fast. And I really, really,
really, really wanted to go really fast, you know. So.
Like a headshot.
That'd be cool.
It'd be perfect.
It would be perfect.
Just put the barrel right on my forehead, you know, and I'm good.
No.
Yeah, you don't want the, what is it?
Edgar, I don't pull the pendulum.
You don't want to.
Exactly.
I don't want any.
I don't need torture.
I don't need cancer.
I don't need any of that.
None of that, you know.
And it's stupid.
And I just lost my brother to cancer.
so it's really hard.
I'm sorry to do that.
That's okay, man.
You know, you live, you die, and it sucks that he survived.
But guess what?
He's wearing these to be now, so I'm happy about that.
Anyway, so the third one, you ready for the third one?
Yeah, let's do it.
Go ahead.
All right, man.
So this one, I was in, my good friend, her name's Jennifer.
I was in her house, and she had a build on, right?
like a patio build on.
And that's where we used to party.
And no, I wasn't all loaded or anything,
but that's where we used to hang out,
drank a couple beers.
And yes,
it was California,
but we weren't smoking pot.
Okay.
I need to make that clear.
Because, you know,
when you smoke that California pot, man,
you see all the thing.
But,
so I'm,
we're in,
in her little bedroom thing,
back thing that she built.
and I was playing guitar, right?
I think we were listening to some mother hips
and playing or whatever.
And it was jamming.
And all of a sudden we hear the door open and shut.
Now her mother lives there.
But we hear this door open and shut
and we hear bonk, bonk, bong, bong.
And you can't see from the door
because there's so much stuff.
There's like cabinets and stuff.
We hear bunk, bong, bong.
You hear the creeks of the floor moving.
And I swear to you,
right when it's about to be around the corner.
Oh my goodness, nothing there.
We got so scared.
She knew her house was haunted by her great-grandma and her father.
And she always used to tell me that.
And so I ended up walking in the house.
And at the kind of, wait, I'm sorry, I heard a bush in the other room.
We walk into the house.
Me first.
So I'm seeing it.
She saw this do.
A box of Oreos suspended in air and then drop.
Now, I want to know how in the heck that happens in science.
So that's just, you know, and so that freak this out.
Needless to say, I left.
And I think I went and got some vodka after that.
But, you know, it was, I was done.
I was done.
Never went back.
I think after that I was scared.
Look,
Bigfoot, you can see it, right?
Ghost, you can't see it.
You don't know what they're going to do.
Anyway, at the same time, it's so fascinating, isn't it?
Yeah.
No, I think all this stuff is fascinating.
Anything from cryptids to paranormal stuff to extraterrestrial to whatever.
I just, even the idea of hunting down lost ancient, you know, cities and archaeology,
like all this kind of stuff, the mystery of things is what really draws me in.
So that's why I love hearing these different kind of stories because it's just,
it's very mysterious.
And I feel like I haven't had anything like that happened to me in my life.
So all I can do is listen to other people's stories.
Well, I'm not far from you, man.
And I'm going to tell you, there's a lot of green mountains from Elmira, New York,
to where you are, man.
Let's go find some big foot.
Yeah, you know, it's, it's, it's,
if I ever actually have a Bigfoot encounter, I would share it on the show and I would hope that people would believe me because, you know, I'm not really looking to lie about something like that.
If I come out and I say I actually had a Bigfoot encounter, you pretty much can believe me because I have zero interest.
Yeah.
I was just thinking about that.
You're Tony Merkel, man.
You man.
Nobody would ever think you were boning you.
Now, me, I'm just some short.
from California to move to New York.
Who believes me, well, I mean, it did happen, but, you know, but Tony
Merkel, man, come on.
You've been so honest with the fact that you haven't seen Dittly Squat.
And what you do, they're going to know it.
If I do, if I do.
Come on, let's go do it, brother.
Come on.
I've been trying.
Three hours away.
Let's go camping.
I've been trying, man.
It's definitely a lot harder than I thought it would be.
When I first started looking for the Bigfoot, man, I was like,
this is, I mean, I'm going to knock this out in a year. And it's just not easy, man. It's just
not easy. In fact, my one buddy who I used to go out with a lot before I started the podcast,
he actually went out with another guy to an area that him and I have been interested in. His first
time out there, he has serious activity going on, like loud, like yells, like, almost like
ape yells, like grunts and stuff at him. And he tells a story better than I do and stuff. But
they definitely had activity in that area that night.
I'm like, dang it, the one night I don't go out, you know,
freaking A, you know.
But it makes me wonder sometimes.
It makes me wonder sometimes if it's, if it's me.
I wonder if, you know, I just, I'm not,
it's not my cards to actually have an encounter.
I don't know.
It's not you, dude.
Trust me, it's not you.
It's not you.
The Sasquot people are just pissed off at you because you're talking shit about them all the time.
I'm not.
Am I? I don't, I didn't think I was. I just, I guess maybe I do a little bit.
Did they pick up on that psychic wavelength, man? They know what you're doing. They know the shows you broadcast.
Dude, supposedly they know everything. I don't know.
Crazy, big ass thumbs of, you know what? Anyway.
But yeah. So that was, those were my encounters. And I just, I'm really, uh,
honored to have been able to talk to you on the radio. It's been a long time coming, like,
a few months. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I definitely have to schedule months and months in advance
anymore because I just have so many interviews to do. Uh, I'm very grateful that everybody has
been patient with me because, oh, oh, I have a dear friend of mine that wanted me to stay hi to you.
Oh, okay. Who's that? Claudia, Claudia, Claudia, yeah, Claudia. Yeah, she's my dear, dearest friend.
and she, I told her, yeah, I'm going to be on the show.
And she's like, oh, tell her my son.
I love him.
He's great.
You know, because she's such a great lady.
She's so great.
And if anybody out there doesn't know Claudia Ackley, then you're lost.
Well, I wouldn't say that, but.
Well, man, she's doing the state of California to stay bigfooting.
Yeah.
Man.
go rock and roll girl she's putting a lot online for that and i respect her dearly yeah no she's
she's a good-hearted person i actually just talked to her i think it was last week her and i had a
chance to talk for a little while uh but yeah very very very kind soul very kind soul but uh i'll
tell you what man uh i really appreciate you coming on and sharing these experiences you're very
you're a very lighthearted individual, very fun to talk to, and I really appreciate you coming on, man.
Oh, man, and right back at you, I appreciate that compliment.
Thank you, Tony.
Absolutely, David, man.
I'll talk to you later.
Yeah, you will.
Talk to you still, buddy.
All right, David, thanks for coming on the show.
I really do appreciate it.
Next up, we have Kim coming on.
Kim, how you doing, man?
I'm doing great doing you.
How about you?
I'm doing well, man.
So you're in Belgium, which is really cool.
And when I got your email and you said, the first thing you said is, I'm in Belgium.
I was like, wow, this guy's English is really well written.
I mean, like, because the punctuation, the spelling, everything.
I mean, you have really good English.
I just want to let you know that up front.
I was very impressed by your English because especially since you and I were just talking
and you said that it's been a couple of years since you actually spoke English.
So well done.
Yeah, I tend to speak English sometimes, but not that often.
But yeah, I, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just want to let you know, man.
I'm very impressed by your English.
Yeah, so you contacted me because you dated a white witch at one time.
And, or I'm not sure if you're still with her or not, but the white witch felt a presence in the house many times.
And from there, stuff happened.
And so why don't you just kind of walk us into this storyline of, you know, first of all,
I would say start with, you know, where did you meet this person that you dated? And, you know, how did they start, you know, sensing the things in the house? And then what were some of your experiences, man? All right, man. All right. So about five years ago, I was living in a small farm town like 10 kilometers away from the city. I live in now. And when I moved to about four years ago, nothing was really out of the ordinary. Everything was just like.
it, yeah, like it was like it had to be. And then after a year of living here, I met my ex-girlfriend. I'm not
together with her anymore. She was indeed a white witch. But the kind who just studies and keeps
it as kind of a hobby. And after a few times of her visiting my place, she said she kind of
felt something. And well, yeah, from there on, the nightmare began like then.
Many strange things haven't.
But yeah, I'm not together with her anymore.
We're still good friends, but yeah.
I've had many weird, strange occurrences, like for example,
breathing in my neck when I was asleep in my bed,
things falling over, stuff like that.
But the biggest thing that kind of put me really on edge was the fact that
The fact that on my unused attic, it was kind of like a panel in the roof of my bedroom and the ceiling of my bedroom.
It was a panel that you could push upwards.
And then you had kind of this unused attic, no floors, only isolation, no lights, anything like that.
And I've been a, I walked on that attic for like two times in the past.
And then I went on it with a friend, kind of because we were curious and I wanted to show them that I indeed had an addict.
And I found huge bones hanging from my support beams.
I collected them.
Cops came, took the evidence.
They took my statements.
Day later, the news calls, I told them the story.
And, yeah, the cops just basically told me if the bones were human, that they would contact me.
and I haven't heard them since.
So, yeah, now we're here.
Wow, man.
So they haven't contacted you,
so I guess you can assume that they weren't human,
but did they look human?
They were definitely on the bigger side.
One was about the size of a forearm.
And a lot of smaller bones that were also hanging in some kind of satchel.
I have no idea a piece of cloth on a different beam.
and yeah, we suspect that those were chicken bones or something like that.
And then I kind of realized when I found that bag, the satchel with the first bone, the tiny bones,
now I didn't check further.
And then I found two huge bones hanging directly above the hatch.
And yeah, that kind of really, really put me on edge.
Wow.
But yeah.
So I know you said to me that you have actual video evidence of the bones and things like that.
what I'll do is I will post that on the show's description when we post this show.
What are the chances that you're...
First of all, I guess I would say, I want to clarify with you that there was a time that you
went into the attic and those bones weren't there, right?
I mean, it's not like you could have missed it, right?
No, I couldn't have missed them.
No way possible.
I could have missed those bones.
As you will see in the video, the two big bones that were hanging right above the
were kind of an eye level so yeah back when I moved into this place with my
mother and sister me and my best friends actually went into that attic and looked
around and yeah nothing was there so we left the place and then year after we
kind of did it again just to make sure and we still didn't find anything and yeah
then suddenly bones and yeah I'm still
confused to this day. This happened in November
2016. Yeah, to this day, I still
don't know what happens. Yeah, I mean, I know it can be
confusing. Do you think, I shouldn't even say it like this,
not that do you think, but what are the chances of your ex-girlfriend
being involved in any way? I mean, I'm assuming she said she wasn't,
or else there wouldn't be a mystery here, right?
Yeah, like, even if it was for kind of a practical joke or
maybe more, it's just not that kind of person to keep
such a story going for more than a year. It's yeah, no way in hell. But yeah, the bones, I kind of
checked the state of the bones. There were a lot of very old spider wraps, a lot of dust, bone marrow
that immediately fell out when I touched them. So, you know, they were, it was like they were
hanging more hanging there for like 10 years, man. That's, yeah, I can't explain it. Wow. So they were,
it was like they were age. So, I mean, you know,
they weren't there at one time. When you do find them, it looks like they've been there longer than
you have. Yep. That's incredible. That's incredible. And I saw also on the wall, on the walls,
that was the strange part. I saw pretty recent electrical cables running for the lights on
the floor below, my bedroom. So yeah, that's, yeah, I honestly don't know what to think of it.
Wow. Yeah, I mean, do you ever get the feeling that those were planted there? I mean, what are your conclusions with this? I mean, are you thinking that somebody actually went in your house and put them there? Or do you think there was some kind of maybe some supernatural type thing where they were, I don't know, hidden in another dimension, you know, and then they revealed themselves to you for whatever reason?
honestly Tony I really have no idea what to think
at first I started to suspect my friends
pulling and brag on me but
it was actually my idea to venture onto the
attic again after so long
and yeah that attic
was always bad business every time the
attic was open for one reason or another
my ex-girlfriend sometimes said
the presence was panicking and stuff like that
So I usually close them pretty soon after.
But yeah, I honestly have no idea how those bones got there, actually.
Wow.
It's not just the fact that you found the bones there, though,
because there's been other things.
It's not like you just found the bones and now is it.
There's been other things that have been happening in the house,
like the hatch to the attic opening on its own, right?
Yeah, man.
Like the bones only came after, yeah, two to three years of the nightmare already.
being on its way.
It basically started with me
getting interested in the
stories back, and the stories my
ex-girlfriend had back in the day.
The things she
experienced
and yeah,
my interest grew and
it kind of made me also a bit scared,
skeptical, didn't really know what to
expect, what to think.
And yeah, I honestly
still don't know to this day if it's just
me being paranoid
and just thinking that every noise I hear is something else.
I try not to, obviously, but yeah, just some things, man.
Like, I've had periods for like two weeks that I felt ice cold breathing in my neck
while trying to fall asleep.
It's hard.
Like, I told you about my fan running earlier, right?
My fan has to be on every single night because I just can't handle silence anymore.
and before yeah to have some winds in my in my room just in case I feel something so you keep the
fan running so say you do feel cold breath in your neck you can kind of brush it off logically and
say oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that fan has helped me so many times I have no idea you're tricking yourself
knowing that you're tricking yourself it's funny yeah it's kind of my my my my my
go-to method of calming myself down when I hear something.
It's like, yeah, I'll just blame it on my fan.
So when you hear like whispers in the house, I know you said that you heard whispers in the house,
is the whispers that you hear, is it words that you can understand or does just sound like
somebody talking in the distance?
Usually it's my name either or just, yeah, incomprehensible, yeah, whispering.
But I did have one time where another ex-cofriend's from.
like a year ago.
She was staying over and we slept underneath the hatch.
And she went to bed earlier than me.
And yeah, I followed soon after.
And I accidentally woke her up.
And she asked me what I was doing.
I said, yeah, I'm just going to grab some small thing from another room.
And the moment I left that room, she storned after me.
barging in and exclaiming something had whispered very loudly in their ear.
And yeah, the first thing I thought was like, why didn't that happen to me?
Then I had evidence for myself because still, I don't know if everything is true or not.
Yeah, I guess I can understand that and stuff.
I don't think I would want something whispering at me though.
Yeah, me neither, but still, yeah.
I actually had that happen to me on a show,
and a lot of people think that whatever came through as an EVP on my show during the recording says my name,
I personally don't think so.
And maybe it's just because I don't want to admit it and stuff,
but I think that whatever it's saying, it says the name Tori, not Tony,
but people think it says Tony.
And they think it says get Tony or get out Tony.
But Tori doesn't make sense just because they were,
There was no Tory.
It wasn't me.
That was not my name.
It wasn't my guest name.
But it doesn't sound like Tony to me.
And I'm sticking to it.
All right.
Whatever floats your boat, man.
Yeah.
So, you know, you mentioned about how things have been thrown from shelves.
Are these things that were in the kitchen like knives or what happened there?
Well, since this is a pretty big place, I kind of had the whole upper floor for myself.
underneath the attic.
And I had a few rooms, my bedroom, kind of a living area, storage room.
And basically, when I was chilling one time in my bedroom, I had like this huge shelf,
an ash tray and a book flew just right off it from different shelves.
And there was no wind whatsoever.
All windows were closed.
and I was standing next to the shelf, so I was pretty sure it didn't move at all. So, yeah, stuff like that.
Hatch opening on it so many times. Yeah, pretty weird stuff, man.
Yeah, I've had my own experiences with things flying off of shelves or tables. I was at a Bigfoot
conference last year speaking, and in the cabin, my brother and I experienced both our glasses
flying off the table between our beds in the one cabin at separate times. So like the first time
it was his and then it was mine. And neither one of us could have done at both times in our sleep
because between our glasses was a lamp and our phones. And if we were reaching across to throw our
glass, you know, his glasses off or my glasses off, we would have hit the lamp as well. But both
times, separate times, our glasses flew across the room on the floor. And it freaked my brother out
pretty much. I mean, he was pretty freaked out. The next day, he packed up his stuff, put in the car.
And after I was done speaking, I went, we went back to the cabin. He's like, I'm not going in there.
It was so funny. But I was like, dude, ain't nothing. But we found a handprint on the door and stuff that
night before that happened. And so we kind of freaked him out and stuff. The handprint was
higher than me, and I'm six feet tall. And it's probably just above my head. It was like going
sideways across the door. And so it freaked him out. I didn't even think.
anything of it when it first happened. I was just like, huh, that's weird. But he's like,
that's weird. That's crazy. And then we started hearing this tapping noise coming from the
corner of the ceiling in the kitchen. And it was just like this rhythmic tapping. Like,
it sounded intentional. And I was like, that's weird too. Like, I'm oblivious. I just don't know.
I'm just like, whatever. You know, life is life. It's funny stuff, though. I mean, we go through
life and we experience different things. And everybody reacts differently to this stuff. But was there
any electrical equipment that went on and off and stuff throughout the house during this time?
I only had problems with a tiny electrical heater turning off sometimes, but yeah, I tend
to not think too much about electrical equipment acting weird. Oh yeah, a few weeks ago, actually,
we were watching a movie on my friend's laptop in my old bedroom. And yeah, the mouse just kind of
and haywire the entire computer just kind of that stuff that yeah shouldn't do like opening
browsers and stuff and pausing and it was weird it was also a new laptop so yeah yeah that can be
weird uh you know there could always be the the you know mechanical failure kind of thing like electrical
stuff but uh you know when you have the history of this stuff happening it's it makes you think okay
you know yeah i can never be too sure yeah yeah i mean
I don't know what's on TV over there in Belgium and stuff, but over here, there's a lot of ghost shows on TV.
We don't really have that much ghost shows on.
Okay.
One of the popular things in these shows is that the ghost hunters will take a flashlight and unscrew the head of it so that the light won't turn on unless you slightly turn it tighter and then the light lights up.
and they unscrew it and they set it on the edge of a table and they start talking to whatever
is there asking them to turn the light on and it happens like sometimes they'll be you know
watching these lights and all of a sudden they start turning off on and then they turn off and
it's interesting stuff but uh clearly to me throughout hearing all all these people's stories
and seeing stuff on TV uh it's clear to me that sometimes these entities have the energy the ability
to actually manipulate physical things in our realm.
And like you said about the things flying off the shelf and stuff, it's just, you know, it happens.
Yeah, man.
Also, two months ago or something, one of my best friends started living here as well.
My mom had to move out with my sister for health reasons.
And he now occupies the entire top floor, my old place.
and back when he was moving in, I was like,
enjoy the house ghost, man, you'll love him.
And he was super skeptical, kind of laughing it off.
And suddenly one morning we wake up,
and he was laughing so loud, I kind of remember it.
And he told me that one of the doors to the other rooms
suddenly had a few knocks on them and it just slid open.
He had that happen, I think,
two to three times now so far.
So yeah, it's hilarious to me to run in his face that it wasn't all bullshit.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's interesting, man.
Very interesting stuff.
But you've had some experiences with shadow figures, some kind of shadows in your house,
or what happened there?
Yeah, like a week before one of my best friends moved in here,
I went down stairs during the night and I just saw this shadow standing near my front door.
And when I walked closer, it just didn't move until I turned on the lights.
And yeah, I was really, really freaked out.
That kind of made me remember about that one time when my ex-girlfriend,
the White Witch, was walking down the stairs with me.
And she suddenly stopped right in front of her.
right in front of me, because she said there was something standing right in front of her,
wanting to go up the stairs.
And yeah, that kind of freaked me out as well because imagine just standing behind somebody
saying they see something standing in front of them.
It's just, yeah, it's not fun.
No, not at all.
I mean, so when you see this shadow figure, I mean, what's going through your mind?
I mean, you said you kind of referenced that you were scared or at least nervous.
I've never seen anything like that in my entire life.
I've never seen a shadow figure that I can remember.
But, you know, I can't imagine what's going through your head at that moment when you're walking to the light switch.
Well, the main thing, though, that I was thinking was, am I seeing this correctly?
Like, am I dreaming or not?
I also still have one more little story left involving the bones, actually.
Oh, okay.
The evening that I found the bones, at one point my sister and her boyfriend came home.
I was still living with my mom and sister.
And I told him, and her boyfriend's first reaction was, I dreamt in full detail of this moment's last night.
And I asked him a few, yeah, man, I asked him a few questions.
And he literally told me that all my actions, all my reactions as well.
We're on point with this dream.
And yeah, that's kind of made me wonder.
Made you wonder what?
That's freaky.
I know, man.
I know.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, you know, it's interesting stuff for sure.
You know, and, you know, I don't know what to make of that, man.
I really don't.
That's a, that's a very, very much entangled web of experience.
that kind of tie together, especially the fact that you do have, you know, some evidence to back
up your claims and stuff. A lot of times people don't have a chance to take pictures or they don't
think about it. They're caught up in the moment. The fact that you've been able to do that is really
cool. And I'm excited about checking that out after we get off here. So I definitely appreciate you
coming on, man. Yeah, no problem, man. Thanks for having me on. All right, brother. Take care.
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