The Confessionals - Bigfoot Surge in Ohio, Dogman Attack in Oklahoma… What’s Happening? | Slingshot Nation

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

What if the things people have been reporting in the woods for decades just put a woman in the hospital?The Pittsburg County Sheriff has been in law enforcement for 38 years. He says he has never see...n injuries like this from a wild animal. DNA is being tested. No identification has been made. She described it as dog-like.Meanwhile, in northeast Ohio last month, eight people reported encounters with a massive bipedal creature in just five days. Researchers are calling it a Bigfoot flap — the largest cluster of sightings since the 1970s. Something was moving through those woods. And whatever it was, it was moving fast.Two stories. Two states. One question that keeps coming up no matter how many times the mainstream tries to bury it — what is actually out there?On this Slingshot Nation Live, we're breaking it all down. Join us in the chat.GoFundMe link for Alicia: CLICK HEREBigfoot Society's Ohio-Flap Map: CLICK HERETravis Roy's Instagram: CLICK HEREPlease pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Big Picture Prophecy Conference REPLAY - Catch the whole conference still available at prophecyconference26.comTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMy NEW Website: tonymerkel.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh boy, is that a slingshot? Yeah, yeah. Slingshot season. Hey, let's run it. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Grace hit me like, boom, can't miss no guy with me a whole squad going. Devil try to throw shade eye grin because the light too bright where I've been. Welcome to Slingshot Nation Live, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:28 How you guys doing? I'm your host, Tony Merkel. I'm also with my co-host because this is Slingshot Nation, not the Confessionals. Derek, how you doing, man? We're doing great, man. Really amazing. We're looking at some of the statistics, and we've had such a great outpouring of new members and people subscribing to the channel. And like, we just appreciate you guys so much. So keep it up. If you want to just click, like, subscribe, go to the Confessionalspodcast.com. You can even become a member and get missing episodes. So, yeah, it's, it's great. And I just said it's not the Confessionals. It's like weird because it's the Confessionals, but it's like a, it's like a sub the
Starting point is 00:01:00 Confessionals. It's like you have the Confessionals show, which is also a platform, and Slingshot Nation is a live show we do on the Confessionals platform, but it's not the confessionals. Make that make sense. All right. So we also have Jack over here. Jack, how you doing, man? I am doing very well. Thank you for asking. I hear you have something pretty cool coming up in the near future. That's what I heard too. What is it, though? You have the Remnant Rising. conference, here the Watchman. Am I correct? Yes. I see your name and your face there. That must be me. I must be doing something. What is this about? Tell the people what it's about. It's a prophecy conference, if I'm not mistaking. That's the second one this year.
Starting point is 00:01:44 What is going on here? Some would say that that is a sign. That would be a sign. Yeah, but this is a whole bunch of speakers on there. This is the second one, the second conference they've done for this. I believe so. I'm assuming 2.0. Oh yeah. There you go. 2.0. your sign. Look at this array of speakers. It's wild. John Pounders. Jamie Walden. Walden. Tony Merkel? That's me.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Joe Horn, Derek Gilbert, Sharon Gilbert, Vicki Joy Anderson. And then she's watching. What's up, Vicki? Kenny Slay. Yeah, exactly. I mean, there's literally, it's a star-studded cast and it's going to be...
Starting point is 00:02:22 Do I say Slay? Say. Say. He's slaying. He's slaying. He's going to slay. He's a, like a Christian financial. entrepreneurial type guy. Honestly, I used to watch Josh Tolly when I was driving truck trying to figure out, like, I was trying to game plan, like, how am I as a Christian going to operate as a businessman? Because I was never taught how to do that stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:42 That's cool. And so I'm excited to see Josh Tully and stuff. And I'm probably going to fanboy on him and look, hi, Josh, how are you? I remember your red beard so much. Yeah, so people could definitely come on out and hear the Watchman. And I always forget where it's at, but it's on the screen right there, Springfield, Missouri. So if you're within, I don't know, a 50-hour drive from there, you should be there. August 7th through 9th this year, so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, I mean, if you think about it this way, though. I mean, honestly, you got John Pounders, who's an OG in the space. You have Jimmy Walden, which people are freshly familiar with him from the platform. I mean, he hit heater after heater when he was with me. So, like, just those two alone, it's enough. It's enough. What am I there for? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I'm just going to smile. I'm like, hey, guys, I'm Tony. and well, pounders, he's next. Let's go. So I'm excited about it. But speaking of, there's also a newer thing,
Starting point is 00:03:38 or a sooner thing that I'll be at. And that is going to be on May 15th. It's a Friday. In Hendersonville, Tennessee, I'll be preaching at Todd Coconado's Church. And so they do church on Friday evenings. Jack, if you go to tonymerkel.com, I think I had Scott.
Starting point is 00:03:57 put something on the website on the bottom of that website. You could probably pull up and show to people. But they do their church services on Fridays. And he asked me to come in. And I think what he wants to do is he wants to do a sit down with me with his congregation and just kind of like go over things that are happening in the world, UAP, disclosure, that stuff. And then I think after that he wants me to preach. So I'm not exactly sure the format of everything, but that is going to be at Todd Coconado's Church. And I think it's Remnant Revival Church, if I remember correctly,
Starting point is 00:04:30 is the name of the church. If you could look that up there, that'd be great. Todd Coconados Church on May 15th, though, it's going to be awesome. I think service starts around 630, maybe seven. But I don't know. It's not my job to know, I guess.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Remnant Revival. You got it. Remnant Revival Church in Hendersonville, Tennessee. I'm looking forward to it. And so if you're within a hundred-hour drive of there, I highly encourage you to come out. You know, can I say, it's just crazy how, like, we've gone from a space 10 years ago where talking about this stuff made you really weird.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah. And now we're in a place where, like, we can share the gospel so clearly through the evidences of what is being revealed. It's wild. It's crazy because, like, and this is no shade. I actually emailed the church that I was a part of when I first started the show, and I emailed the leadership and apologized for my immaturity back then on how I handled myself.
Starting point is 00:05:21 But I did feel socially rejected at the church when I started the show. And it's kind of funny, just almost like full circle where in a decade how much has changed where, you know, there is something to say about, you know, your homeland doesn't accept you kind of thing. That often happens. But the fact that, you know, you go from feeling socially rejected at your church for starting a podcast that you know God called you do. Like, the Holy Spirit's like, dude, you're doing this. and then the confirmations came, right? And then here you are a decade later,
Starting point is 00:05:54 and you're being asked to come into a church to talk about this stuff to the congregation and then preach. And then I just got done filming season two of the counter with a bunch of pastors on these types of topics. And before that, we did Larry Raglan's Big Picture Prophecy Conference, and we're doing the Prophecy Conference in Missouri.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And I know there's another conference in August that I might be not preaching. It would be talking, talking at, I suppose. But that's still being worked out, I think. So I don't want to talk about it right now. But there's a strong likelihood that in about a four, four day period, I got to be in North Carolina and Missouri, and they do overlap. And that's going to be interesting. So if anybody has a private plane, they want to loan me so I can go around a little bit quicker. If like, you know what, I really like this Tony guy. And, you know, I'm sitting on this. private plane, this private jet that I use.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And let me just, let me reach out and see if he needs some help with commuting, because I do. I do. What if we could get a reverse engineered UAP? Would you be down? Time warp through space and just appear somewhere? You know, I've never considered that. And I think I might. For that weekend.
Starting point is 00:07:07 If I'm in a jam, it's like, how much in NACI language do I need to use to do this? Because if it's just a little bit, maybe, clip that and go ahead and call me a sire on. But yeah, some of those are some of those are the things that we're involved in and doing coming up here this year. And yeah, if you want more of the Confessionals episodes and you want to help support the show, become a member, hit the join button. What are you waiting for? I was sitting here and when the music started on the show, I'm sitting here with my pocket knife and I'm just clacking it like this to the beat. And so it's just doing this. And I have my finger there.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And I felt the blade just skim my finger just a little bit. And I knew it didn't come. He's not even looked down. But it took me back in time when I was in middle school. I was in seventh or eighth grade. And I had a, I believe he was a math teacher. I think he was my math teacher. Maybe a history teacher.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Anyways, I was a terrible student. And I'm at the desk begging him to not fail me. So I don't have to like go home and face my dad. again. And, and he's like, no, man. Like, you didn't, like, literally didn't do any homework. You didn't even fill out your test. Like, you know what I mean? Now I'm like, please, Mr. Whatever. And I'm fiddling with a stapler on the desk. And I just, and I just, out of like desperation, I go, please. And I slammed my hands down on the desk. And I stapled my finger. And he just looked to me like, you're an idiot. I was like, no sympathy. I was like, no sympathy. I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:48 I was like, I'm not going to get a passing grade, am I? And I just like, I walk back to my seat with the stapler stuck to my hand. That's a good story. That's what I thought about when I was clacking this. And, you know, we prayed before we went live here because we've been going through some spiritual attacks. It seems like there's a pattern where we do these live shows. And then the day of like the day that we do the live show afterwards and even the day afterwards, we're experiencing a lot of health issues among the three of us. And it became pretty apparent yesterday or last week because I think all three of us, if I remember correctly, right after the live show were sick.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And you and I, Derek, were experiencing the same symptoms. And it was like, I don't know about you. I'll let you fill the gaps in. But we, like, I was mentally feeling fine. My, my energy level wasn't sucked. But I had shivers. and it felt like I had a fever coming on, but I didn't have a fever. It was really weird. Like, I had all the symptoms of you have a fever. You're getting really sick. But I was like, I don't feel
Starting point is 00:09:57 sick. And I don't have a fever, but I was shaking so bad. I've been sleeping downstairs with the puppy because I take them out in the middle of the night. And my son comes downstairs with me and like tucks me in my little eight-year-old son. And I'm just laying there shivering under the covers. It's completely dark. And then he came back down and I didn't know it. I open my eyes and he's standing right in front of me with a stuffy, like a panda bear stuffy. And he's like, here, you can cuddle this. I'm like, thanks, buddy. But I thought I was dying.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I was like, what's going on? And then you experienced the same thing? Yeah. So I've actually experienced it a few weeks in a row. So it's probably like three, four weeks in a row where I feel like, I feel it in my bones. It feels like my bones are almost like on fire. And then I usually have like the sweats. And then I like just sleep it off and I feel fine the next day.
Starting point is 00:10:46 really weird. Jack, what about you? Did you have any of that kind of symptoms? Last week I did. I haven't had it. Like Derek's been feeling it, I think, almost every week and for a month, we've been doing this. But I had like the, what do you call it? Like flu-like symptoms, achy, tired, exhausted, you know, just fatigued in so many different ways. And then I started to feel sick, like to my stomach. But yeah, that was last week. So I mean, you guys were feeling the shivers. Yeah. Well, I mean, let's just wear it as a bad of honor, right? I mean, like, like, I think sometimes people, that kind of stuff gets, gets them like kind of in their head and they're just like, you know, oh my gosh, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:25 oh no. And it's like, no, there's no, no, you're on track. You're on point. You're on target. Who cares? You know, bring it on. And so all you witches out there that'd be cast in hexes while we're doing lies because we're talking too much Jesus, please stop. But I know you won't. No, well, it's just crazy. We armored up this week. We armored up specifically in that kind of prayer. So, yeah. It was just wild because it was. Like, I've experienced it, didn't say much about it. And then... I do remember the pattern, though.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I mean, you mentioned it briefly. But I think last week is when you suggested that this might be a spiritual test. Well, because it's two weeks in a row that you and me have both got sick right after the live. Yeah. Like, or felt sick. Yep. So it's been really weird. And I was like, am I getting sick from the dog?
Starting point is 00:12:04 Like, I was like, you know... Which, by the way, he's here in the studio. But he's so full of energy that... You don't have to do that, Jack. He's so full of energy that he's actually laying and sleeping right now. and I don't want to ruin that. I imagine he's going to bark at sometime during this interview or this conversation because he is, well, he's growing up now.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And he doesn't have that, hey, I was just born yesterday, low energy. And the people love him, so pull him up. Yeah, if he starts barking, I'll grab him and stuff. But right now, so my wife, if my wife was watching, which I know she's not, but if she was watching, she'd be cringing because I'm wearing a black t-shirt underneath a tan shirt. And I had a tan shirt in here because she's always telling me black t-shirt, stop wearing black with brown and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I don't know. I don't know how to dress myself. And I had a tan t-shirt on today because I was trying to plan ahead. And I picked him up and he got pee on it. And I was like, oh, man. So I had a change anyway. So now I'm back to... You snuggled him too hard.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah, I'm back to same old Tony black t-shirts. Black on, black on black on black. All right. So listen, we are going to be talking about cryptids today and the rise of cryptids because it seems like there's, you know, I'm probably going to reference this throughout the year as the year goes on, but the very first live of this year for Slinkshot Nation, we talked about what we see coming, and I had told you. And it was, that show might have been a prophetic show for many different reasons. And one of it is because I think is the first time that I ever publicly,
Starting point is 00:13:37 uh, described myself feeling like I'm a watchman. I'm on a tower. I'm looking out. I see something coming. I'm sounding the alarm kind of thing. And since then, I can't tell you how many people have called me a watchman. Like, they described me as a watchman when they're introducing me and things like that. I'm just like, interesting, you know. But that show we talked about, I specifically remember I feel something rising. There's the ground's rumbling and something's coming up. Like it's, and you could take that literal as in like, you know, demons are coming out of the ground to cryptids are coming out of the ground to just the idea of metaphorically.
Starting point is 00:14:12 there's something coming and it's rising. And it's like it's it's the proverbial below the surface, you know. And it seems like since then we've had things popping up. And now we have these cryptids popping up. I think I talked about this last week, but I'll just mention it briefly. I had a dream about a day or two, I think it was, before Operation Epic, Epic Fury, I think is what Trump calls it, into Iran. and I was standing on my back deck and in this dream, there was a gray cargo military plane, which we have lots of those at the Knoxville Airport, which I live within 20 minutes of.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And this thing was flying low and it flew over my house and it was on fire. And it went over the hill and just crashed and there's this big fireball. And there was like the next day we invaded Iran and started that war. And I was looking to the skies. I'm like, I told Lindsay, I said, I think there's going to be a plane that crashes. And it felt that real. And then with us going to Iran, I started thinking, was it more along those lines? And what does that mean? You know? So I'm still on that. But I'm just saying throughout this year, it feels like what we're doing here in our camp has a prophetic nature to it. And it feels like the cryptids might be on the rise, which, which would be going to more biblical end-time scenario, I believe. But before we get to the cryptids on the rise, I just found out today that it's apparently acceptable
Starting point is 00:15:54 to be a conspiracy theorist now because your vice president of the United States, you know, like, again, anybody who's been doing this for a long time, and people who are watching probably have been at, this for a long time. We have been in it for a long time. You see the ebbs and flows and the waves that things come in. And I got questions as the motives why, but there was a time. And I'm talking probably this was even pre-COVID time, but definitely during COVID, which is when a lot of people started coming around to waking up. But there was a time where if you mentioned the idea of
Starting point is 00:16:40 Can I say the word, Jack? Yeah. Okay. PizzaGate. Like, that would get you kicked off of YouTube. It would get you deep platformed. You're a crazy conspiracy theorist and all that stuff. And so you'd have to tap dance around the idea of it without actually saying the word.
Starting point is 00:16:56 You know, you would say, like, very powerful people are involved in PDF files, you know, and you're just like using all these different weird ways to say what you want to say. but there is and that whole thing is layered in itself. But now you have leadership in this country, in this world, J.D. Vance being the vice president of the United States, who are looking at the Epstein files and they're saying, well, why is there so many references to pizza in these emails? And maybe we should investigate this whole Pizagate thing.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And so he, Jack, could you get ready? Could you actually pull that up before I go any further? Could you show the people what J.D. Vance said? I think this was within the last couple of days, maybe even a day or two ago that he said this. I think it was at Turning Point, which was, that's a whole other thing. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:56 That's interesting. The Turning Point USA, I think this event that he was actually speaking at. From what I hear was so low and it. attendance that Miss Kirk didn't even show up for it, which tells you that the impact of the absence of Charlie in that organization. And it should give you a sign as to the future of the younger generation and their involvement in politics and what that's going to look like. They'll be involved. But what's it going to look like? Because right now it seems like their trust in institution is 100% gone with welcome kids. Welcome. I can say firsthand too is that my kids were
Starting point is 00:18:37 supposed to go. They like the T.P. USA chapter came to their school. Oh, yeah. But they decided not to sign up because I'm more non-political, which so I was like, nah, you don't need that in your life. So, but all a bunch of their kids in their school went and they said there was only like a quarter full of attendance in the Atlanta area. Or no, it was it, Georgia, wherever, Athens. Yeah. So that's, we don't need to divert on that. But that's where, that's where J.D. Vance was at when he was talking. So, Jack, if you could pull that up and share with the people what the vice president of United States said about Pizza Game. I'm probably more obsessed with this than most officials, okay?
Starting point is 00:19:13 Probably more obsessed with this than most people even in this room, is when you see somebody who says something in an email that suggests, you know, there's one email I read and it's been a little while ago, but it was talking about, you know, one person sent an email to Jeffrey Epstein saying, oh, there was some really nice, like pizzas and grape sodas or something like that. And I remember it sounded like the Pizza Gate conspiracy theory, but here it was. in like an email from a guy and my reaction to that was we should absolutely investigate that person okay and you know you remind me I'm gonna follow up on
Starting point is 00:19:46 that to see whether we've investigated that person because we should we absolutely should when you see evidence of sexual assault sexual misconduct regardless of whether you're powerful or not in fact you should probably investigate it more if you're a powerful person right I don't want I don't want powerful people you know being involved in in this disgusting behavior Yeah, so that's what, that's what, Mr. Vance, sorry. You're okay. I'm probably, just, just X out.
Starting point is 00:20:14 You're okay. You're okay. But that's what Vance said about the Pizza Gave thing, which is like, whoa, that's a big deal, you know, and the topic is layered. There's a lot of things that go into it, you know, like people who maybe don't know or maybe people who do know would recognize this, but the whole comment ping pong thing and a whole fiasco with that, the guy, the crazy guy who went in there and shot it up, or supposedly there's conspiracy theories that that was a plan in itself.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And, you know, everybody knows the truth, but nobody actually knows the truth kind of thing, you know. But I want to say, I want to say this. Before we get into Lauren Beaubair, is that I even say her name, Bobert? I always want to say Bobert, but I think it's Bobert. I think Bobert sounds right. Anyways, I think she's from Colorado. But before we get into a couple of clips of her talking, because this news of J.D. Vance talking about this,
Starting point is 00:21:07 kind of kicked off the conversation with her and Benny Johnson. I, one, the files, the Epstein files are, like I said, a couple of weeks ago, I think when we had Larry and Sandy in studio, they're going to use the war to sweep the files under the carpet, right? Everything is connected. and I think that every time, this is not the rule, but it's something I'm observing. It feels like whenever tensions get thick
Starting point is 00:21:43 up there on their Eiffel towers and they can feel the pressure, usually the pressure comes from people such as us, usually, when it comes to what we're talking about, you know? And I can't help but look at, him talking about the Pizza Gate stuff as another thing that they're throwing on top of a layer that they know we're going to bite at and get us going down that hole to get us off of maybe Iran or gas prices or whatever, you know? It's like, it's weird because it's like they have
Starting point is 00:22:20 this like this like carousel of distractions and they rotate like, oh, Iran. And everybody's like, oh, Iran is like, oh, Iran's getting a little hot. Rotate Epstein files. Here's some EFSI. Oh, you've seen files and stuff. And they forget about Iran. And like, oh, that's getting a little hot. Pizza gate, you know? And then they're like, that kind of connects to EFSI and we'll gradually bring them off this.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's like, it's this like sciop that is constantly going, right? And I just feel like that this is part of that. It really could be something where they're bringing this in because they know it's going to get a certain group of people biting that will maybe get them to spend their airtime like me talking about this and not what they, but that's the thing. Like with me, I'm so like unconventional with this stuff. I don't think whatever they're trying to distract me from, I'm probably only looking at anyways. I'm so, I'm so like not, I used to try to be more plugged in, but just, I'm not an old man, but the older I got in this world of stuff,
Starting point is 00:23:25 the less interest that I am of trying to keep up with who said what, what's what. And government this, government this. You realize it's all noise and distraction. It's noise and distraction from what? A spiritual worldview, a spiritual warfare, spiritual word that we're in the middle of. And that's my thing. That's what that's, that is what, uh, God has put on my plate in this season of my life. And so I embrace it. And, and I look at everything through that, that, that kind of lens. And I'm not really interested in, you know, getting all riled up about who said what and this, that and the other. Now, if, uh, I don't know, If Donald Trump were to, I don't know, do something like, portray himself as Jesus, I might have a problem with that. Yeah. You know? Oh, he was just mocking a Trump. Cool. He's just mocking Pope.
Starting point is 00:24:14 That's really cool. That's a great excuse that you can run with. And if you're okay with your president mocking your savior so that he can then turn and mock the Pope, cool. Cool. but we're not going to sit around in this camp, in this room, and offer excuses of, oh, well, he was doing that to do this. And all of a sudden, apparently, because that wasn't his excuse, and all of a sudden, apparently, Donald Trump is on the level of Joe Biden with cognitive abilities, because his excuse was, oh, I thought that was me as a doctor. Dude, you're 80 years old and you grew up in America.
Starting point is 00:24:57 There's no way you thought that was a doctor unless you are suffering mentally. Yeah, with energy hands and like angelic beings around you. So yeah, so here's the thing. It's like, I tend not to plug into that game. Yeah. Until it's my arena. And you're mocking my savior. That's my arena.
Starting point is 00:25:15 100%. You know? And so anyways, how did we get on that? Where are we talking about? Jady Vance. That's right. So Piz again, let's get back to Pizzie again. But it's all connected, though.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It's all connected. It's all connected. But the whole thing, did you see the real I sent about Abramovich, how she said that Trump's actually like one of the great magicians or something to? I saw, I saw you sent that. I didn't look at it. Yeah, I mean, but that's wild. Like, she actually says that he is like a chaos magician. And so, like, what he does is intentional to like basically get the end game that he wants.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, well, I'm not going to take my advice from Marina Abravivich either. Well, that's totally fair. Like, like, I see what you're saying and stuff. But I'm like, I'm not. saying that Trump's an angel, but I'm not going to take somebody like Marina as telling me Trump's not an angel. I know he's not an angel and anything you say, like that's like, I mean, yeah, anyways, I'm not a big fan of her either. No, well, 100%. So let's get, let's get on topic though real quick here with this so we can move into the cryptid stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Jack, if you could prime up the clip of Laura, Lauren Bowber talking to Benny Johnson about the pizza and what they're trying to do as far as their investigation. This is, the, Jack, before you hit play on this, this is, I think, like, almost a minute and a half or something, are we okay playing that, you think? Or do you think I need to talk over it while it's playing? Because of Benny Johnson might be like, hey, that's mine. And it should be right. Should be okay.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. Let's do it. Okay. Well, here's the thing. I actually was working on getting the Anthony Weiner laptop because I want to see the files that are on this. And while we still had Attorney General Pam Bondi, she had sent me over to the FBI. And there is no active search warrant on that computer.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And so they are saying that I am unable to view it without a new search warrant. And there has to be new information. I think these Epstein files give us new information to look into the Anthony Weiner laptop. I absolutely want to know what was on there. what was the secret folder that was titled Life Insurance that had Frazzle.rip, where people get the Frazzle drip story from, I want to see this video. You know, if it's totally fake, if it's not there, I'll come out and say it. I want to see what people are talking about.
Starting point is 00:27:37 These things don't just originate out of nowhere. And so if it means issuing a subpoena from the Oversight Committee to get my hands on this laptop, then that's what I will do. If there's anything linking the Anthony Weiner laptop to the Epstein files, I will use that to get another search warrant. But I'm getting my hands on this laptop and looking to see what was in it. So she's going to get her hands on that laptop. She is not suicidal. She doesn't own scarves.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And she doesn't like hanging from her imaginary scarves on doorknobes. You know? But so she's saying, I'm going to get my hands on that. And so anybody who hears that, and they're kind of like lost, just real quick. Anthony Wiener, he had a laptop that supposedly had a lot of bad things on it. And one file was called Life Insurance. And there's this whole conspiracy theory. I'll say it's a theory because I don't know if it's actually been proven 100% within the conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:28:49 people, certainly not the mainstream. But the idea is that there were, there were, I don't know if I can say, allegedly, allegedly, right, Jack? I can say the word allegedly. All right, so allegedly, I love that. There was a former president's wife and Anthony Wiener's wife, I think it was his wife, on video, PDF filing. Just don't be too specific.
Starting point is 00:29:16 About the actions. Yeah. Yeah. a child to the point of unaliving. And it's apparently extremely graphic to the point of something that happens in the video is something that you saw in a horror movie and was also acted out in a comedy TV series called The Office by the character Dwight Shute with a dummy. Right. So like, allegedly. So everybody knows what I'm talking about, right? Allegedly. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's like the, what do you call? Silence of the Lambs. That's what he was imitating or Hannibal, Lecter, you know, like that, basically. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. So that's, that's, if you caught what I'm throwing out there, that's what happened. But that's the whole frazzle drip conspiracy. And she's talking about. Now, we have JD Vance talk and we need to investigate pieces again. Now, she's saying, and I think she said, yeah, she's the one that's trying to get the Wiener laptop. That's weird to say. Anthony Wiener's laptop. And if you know what happened with Anthony Wiener, it's even more ironic that his last name is Wiener.
Starting point is 00:30:36 But she wants to get that laptop and she's like, I want to see the video. I promise you, I promise you. The reason why you're talking about this is because there's a theoretical video. and the only reason that video is even on your mind is because it's so terrible. I promise you, you don't want to see it. Somebody has to confirm the video, but I wouldn't be able to handle it. And I would highly suspect if she got her hands on that laptop and she looked at that video, I think that you would see, she would need counseling.
Starting point is 00:31:17 She probably already does. And I mean that just because you're sitting in Congress, like you're in the belly of the beast. Democrat, Republican, they all need therapy after being in D.C. that long. You know, like we're going to D.C. in June to interview Eric Burleson. We're going to be there for a full day. We're flying in the day before, flying out the day after. We're going to be there for essentially not even three days. And I'm like, let's get in and let's get out, you know, because I don't want to catch anything that they have.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And so, I mean, but so that's the line of thinking here now. We have the Pizzergate investigation that J.D. Vance, our vice president, is calling for. Now we have a sitting congresswoman Lauren Bober talking about how she wants to get the Wiener laptop, Anthony Wiener laptop, and investigate the frazzled drip conspiracy and look at the video. Now, in the next clip, the Jack's going to prime up, she's going to be bringing up M.K. Ultra. So it's a little bit of a shorter clip, but if we could bring that up and let her do her talk. And shout out to a thousand people watching right now. Hey-oh.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And we didn't even plan that. No, that was good. That was good. I like that. Okay, I think we're building chemistry. That's good. That's really good. But thank you for everybody for tuning in and watching these lives.
Starting point is 00:32:35 We've been seeing the lives grow. And it's really encouraging because when I started the confessionals, my goal was to grow. it, the platform, the show. And my dream was to be able to hire people to work with me. Yeah, it technically for me, but also with me. And this show, the Slingshot Nation, what it started out as me just talking about myself, I was like, this sucks. I hate it. And I will quit if it stays this way. Because I don't, they didn't like it. And when we started transitioning to the three of us in here, it fulfilled what my desire was of building something where I can work with other people within it, you know. And so shout out to everybody watching right now. Thank you for being here.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And if you're listening on audio replay, take your lunch break. We don't ever have these scheduled at a certain time. So just take your lunch break and just don't come back until we for audio. It's Friday's right. Oh, yeah, it's right. It's audio. So if you're audio, you're good. But what are you doing? Show up live and take your lunch break. Jack, bring me up this next clip here, please. Ultra. Well, I really want to see if this program is, still being used and what they're using. I mean, back decades and decades ago, you know, there were different drugs, LSD and whatnot. We have very different drugs nowadays.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Is there a different kind of program? And, you know, is it just experimental as it actually been put to practice? And I want to see if there was ever a hard line to shut it down. From what I see in the congressional hearings, there was not. It was just, oh, okay, thanks for telling us the truth. And, you know, please just don't do it anymore. Yeah. And so she mentioned earlier, she spent way more time talking about this, but she mentioned
Starting point is 00:34:23 earlier in that video. And this video just popped up on my radar today. And I was like, whoa, okay. Well, guess what? Derek curveball. I'm not prepared. Yeah. Derek's been the last, I guess, day or two, because I told you guys what we were doing
Starting point is 00:34:36 today and you've been preparing, which is great because a little insider baseball yesterday and the day before. And today, and probably tomorrow, I'm dealing with a scam artist that has come into my life. And let's just say, after this live show and after my in-studio guest comes in today, I'm going to be on the phone of the police, filing reports, because we'll leave it at that. But I'm very grateful, Derek. You've got you to put it all the time into preparing for today because, holy cow, my life has been a complete distraction away from everything that we do here. So she said that earlier that this topic of MK Ultra was brought up by Annapalina Luna first.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And so I think this is her investigation that she's pursuing. So now we have UFO, UAP disclosure, congressional hearings. We have our government releasing these Epstein files. We have our vice president saying we should investigate Pizagate. We have Lauren Beaure requesting the laptop from the FBI so she can see the video. the Frazzle drip video and investigate that. We have Anapolina Luna now wanting to investigate M.K. Ultra. It's like this, all these conspiracies that we've been railing against for the last
Starting point is 00:35:54 five to ten years essentially, well, M.K. Ultra is older that, obviously. But it is now becoming like this mainstream thing. And I just sit back and I'm just like, hmm, why? Why? Why? Why is that happening? And there's a lot of, there's a lot of options and possibility with that. But she said, one of the thing she said in that clip was, you know, I want to investigate and see if, and I'm paraphrasing, if this is still happening, if the program ever, never, ever ended because she said, when they came out and admitted it, there was no oversight, there's no further investigation. And they said, oh, we're sorry, we're done. And that was it. There's no investigation.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And so she doesn't need to investigate anything. All she needs to do is listen to confessionals. That's a great wing. But she doesn't need to investigate anything because she's been in. government long enough to know that if the government comes out and says, yes, we did this, we're sorry, and there was no further investigation into it, she knows for a fact it has never ended. It just changed faces. They're not calling it MK Ultra on the inside. And guess what? We have our whistleblowers. And this is where things get connected. This is where things get connected. Like, we got to build like some kind of like mind map AI brain Jarvis thing because everything
Starting point is 00:37:14 has its own tentacles and they're connected and intertwined. So she says, I need to investigate MK.K. Ultra to see if it's Bill happening. Well, what's MK. Ultra? We've talked about these things, the mind control, using the drugs, the psychedelics, the, the, the, the abuse and getting children to do, like, mental, I'm drawing blank on the psychological. Cionics. Thank you. Yep. And where have we heard that word before? Disclosure. Jake Barber.
Starting point is 00:37:44 talking about how they use children with psionics for what to call in UFOs to bring them down reverse engineer and what is that tie into that ties into human trafficking because we were in a specific meeting with very in the know people we had a private meeting a couple actually the three of us were in two different meetings within a few week period where we have these meetings with these guys talking about the disclosure what's coming but also about human trafficking and what is what is what we learn about the human trafficking there's essentially i think it was like two or three categories. They get a child, if the child's good looking and pretty, they put them into the
Starting point is 00:38:20 horn industry. I don't know if I could say that. Corn. Corn. Corn. They put them in that industry as a slave. If they're, okay, so there's that. And if they show they have psychic abilities, they then get put into the psionic program
Starting point is 00:38:40 to do all that stuff. That's the first thing they look for. Right. That's the first thing to look for. and if they have neither, they use them for harvesting, physical organs. And so that is what is happening in the human trafficking, which is why I talk about human trafficking so much. I'm friends with Troy Brewer, and right when I became friends with Troy Brewer,
Starting point is 00:38:58 there were so many other people who came across my path who are fighting human trafficking that it's like, there's your sign, son. And it's become a passion of mine. And I don't know where God's taking it. I don't know what the future holds with it. I hope God one day provides an opportunity for me to kick in a door and take care of business. That's how I feel inside about it. You know, that's how I feel about it.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It makes me so irate. And so I'm constantly talking to my kids about being safe. And I was very, my son had a check up the other day. And I'm sitting in the office at the doctor's office with my son. And the doctor even spent time talking to my son about how he needs to make sure. that he doesn't allow certain people, strangers, to ask him to do things physically that he doesn't feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:39:48 He said, even if it's a doctor, he said, if your parents don't give the doctor the okay, the answers always know. And I was like, thanks, Doc. That's a great doc. Yeah. I was like, thanks, Doc. Here's a tip, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:02 I was like, that's good. But anyways, so there's all these conspiracies that are all coming and boiling to the surface, and I'm glad because we know there's truths in it, but we also have to, on our end of it, steer ourselves, our own minds, but also maybe the audience, as far as the people who tune into us, at least our perspective, we're not trying to tell people
Starting point is 00:40:26 what to say, what to think of stuff, but this is our perspective. We think we're right. And the reality is that though there's truth boiling to the surface and we all see it, there is a really good chance that that truth is only pieced out a little bit or in a very strategic way to get you looking a certain direction,
Starting point is 00:40:42 which is truthful, but there's also lies mixed in. And so you're constantly keeping your head on a swivel with that stuff. I feel like you're itching to say something. I keep on going, so go ahead, Derek. Well, the tie-in with Representative Luna is really interesting because she also just put,
Starting point is 00:40:56 on April 1st, put a deadline for April 14th about the Pentagon releasing files according, like, associated with UAP. And that did not happen yesterday. So there might be some good representatives out there, like Luna, like Burchat, like Berlinson. Like there could be some guys actually trying to push back.
Starting point is 00:41:14 100%. And actually bring light to the darkness. The problem is that the darkness is so dark, like what you're mentioning, you know. Infiltrated and powerful. Infiltrated the powerful. I mean, it's so dark. That's why they think they keep always giving us a little bit of truth, but they don't want us to know the fullness of it. So they change topics.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So we're not really getting the root of all of it. Which I think is what you're really referencing is the aspect of like the human trafficking, like the movement of these people. Like, this is the root of all of it. It feeds the beast system that they're creating. Oh, yeah, it is a huge route. It's a huge route. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And I think, yeah, so say these people that you said, Burleson, Burchett, Luna. Like, I think they have good intentions, right? And I know for a fact, because I've spent time with Burleson, that Berluson became a congressman and then started the process of education when it comes to this stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Before he was a congressman, he didn't think about UAPs, aliens, Nephilim, any of that. He talks about it now, but he didn't think about that stuff. So the people who are in these authoritative positions within our government, a lot of them, now, Burchet,
Starting point is 00:42:30 he was like a local Bigfoot guy beforehand, but like, A lot of these people, they didn't look into it. And so even them, they're getting information. And one, you have to be like, okay, is this information being piecemeal to them? What's the agenda? Also, how are they perceiving the image or the messaging that's being given to them? Because there is an element where they're so new to it that they themselves could accidentally put out
Starting point is 00:43:04 false fake news lies because they in the moment believe it to be true, but it's not. And maybe it's information that is deliberately delivered to them that way, but also maybe it's just that they're so green with some of this stuff, they don't totally understand how to comprehend it yet. So when they speak about it, they're not actually being accurate with what they're saying because they don't totally understand. And the example that's in my mind right now with that is the most, I believe it's the most recent interview Luna did with Roeke. Now, Luna, I know you watch the show. We've talked to her. I am not hounding. This is not a bash session. But when she started talking about the book of Enoch, as somebody who has the book of Enoch in my work bag, there were a lot of things that were not true that she said just because, and it wasn't that she was lying. It was obvious that she had just learned about this. And she was not totally sure how to compartmentalize and understand it still. And relate the material.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And so when you have government people, this is great. I'm about to do an interview. I'm losing my voice already. I'm glad you're going to be doing the second half of the show. There we go. But when you have government people who are doing, let's give them the benefit of doubt, doing their best. But it's such a huge learning curve that because it's such a huge learning curve, whatever they're giving us as information, we need to take. but also like that might not be totally accurate,
Starting point is 00:44:34 especially if I don't know about it, right? Does it make sense? Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense. There's always people out there trying to mess with minds and mislead people. And it's like a sci-op even within the governmental realms where like you're going to have, they're going to have briefings that will mislead them to steer them in directions, you know, fundamentally in their thinking. And a lot of it is also probably non-governmental organizations.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So, like, this is only going to go so far because it's all hidden behind the wall. That's not government anymore. And then the Congress won't have authority to, like, get truth and get files out of areas they don't have access to. You also have to consider the whispers in the ears, right? So let's put this way. Let's use Burleson because he's the one that I feel most comfortable with. he has gotten information from so many different sources that that alone has him reeling and trying to figure out which ways up. So think of it this way. And I can't say for sure, but let's just throw
Starting point is 00:45:46 some names out there, okay, of people that Burleson could have been interacting with to try to understand what's going on. Government officials that are within the Pentagon that would have an agenda, right? Possible, the imaginary group that I don't think is imaginary, the Collins elite could have approached him. Lou Elizondo could have approached him. Dr. Stephen Greer could have approached him. Tony Merkel spent time with him.
Starting point is 00:46:21 say that for sure. I spent hours with Eric Burleson. I met him in, I forget what state, Tim Poulos in, but we did a show together. We talked beforehand. We shared an hour over and I think it was like an hour and a half ride Uber back. We exchanged information. I had him on the show. We're going to be going to D.C. to do another show with him. And I have my perspectives. So just other people that I mentioned, all having different perspectives on this, all whispering in the ear. And then that one individual as a, as a whole, we're expecting to know what's what. Kind of hard to do. So that's why I just, with all this stuff, it's like we take it, we digest it, but it ain't gospel.
Starting point is 00:47:07 You know, before we move off this, do any of you guys have anything to say? Because I think if I don't move off this, I'm just going to spend the whole show on this. No, I'm good. Well, I mean, there's so many different compartmentalizations of like the program names. Like she's mentioned even MK Ultra. And it's like we know that ended. That was like a short stint for a few years. And then it changed to, I don't know if you know the name of the program.
Starting point is 00:47:31 But we know that like the program changed. The drugs they use were probably changing. The facilities are changing. So like in essence, the root of what they're doing is still going and it's still the same. but they love to put new files on everything. Like, Project Blue Book was just like for a short period or a decade or whatever. They were investigating UFOs in the 50s and 60s. And then all of a sudden they change it.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And that's the end of the... So it's like, yeah, that's one aspect. It's like, how do you keep all these file names? It's all misdirection. And they do it intentionally so that we can never grasp the full picture. Even down to a few weeks ago when they had the report come out where somebody within the military was telling the troops that they're being used to bring on Armageddon.
Starting point is 00:48:15 They're bringing in this whole end times prophecy, conspiratorial angle to the forefront. It is a constant thing. And it always, it's all intertwining with one another. And so it's like, it, it's like gaslit from so many different angles and it leaves the general population either unplugging or reeling and they're like, what, what's what I don't know to literally driving them insane. I have seen an huge uptick of people who have been driven insane by this. By everything that's going on in the last 10 years since disclosure started,
Starting point is 00:48:51 there are people who are just, they've lost touch with reality because they don't know which ways up. And so they've gotten, they fell down the rabbit hole so far now and they tumbled around so much. They literally into this dark rabbit hole falling, not knowing which way they actually, fell into the hole and it's driving them mad. And I've seen it up close and personal. People have stocked us.
Starting point is 00:49:17 People have come from out of state to literally, we had have so many people come out of state, look us up, find our address. We had one woman living at a rest stop off of 40 for an entire month. Every day, she's going into different businesses asking where's Tony? Merkle. Like, and there's something that's happened recently that we're not going to get into. But like, it's, I see it up close and personal. And maybe it's just because the platform's growing and so that's just what comes with it.
Starting point is 00:49:54 But I don't think so because I reached out to another creator who is not in this space. Huge platform. Huge platform. Over a million subscribers on YouTube. Lots of people know this guy. I reached out to him because I heard him suggest, I heard him say on one of his videos
Starting point is 00:50:14 where he goes to church and I was like, that's gutsy. And I reached out to him, I said, hey, dude, like, how do you get around the fact of people showing up to your church that aren't there for church, but they're there for you and they're just trying to, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:27 relay a message to you or you want to take selfies and he's like, I've never had that happen. I'm like, what? That's crazy. I'm like, what? Are you kidding me? And that's when I started thinking,
Starting point is 00:50:38 it might be the industry. Yeah. It might be the industry. Yeah. Go ahead, Jack. Okay. I was just going to say, like, people were gaslit for decades, that these things weren't real. This stuff was correct.
Starting point is 00:50:50 You're crazy to think that this is real. Like, what is it, Barney Hill, that incident, it's Barney, right? The very famous UFO encounter. Like, that one was probably the most publicized and taken with the most legitimacy at the time. But even that was considered fringe and cring. crazy by most people and was reported to be crazy by government and government officials. And it's the same thing with all of the stuff that's coming out with the Epstein files. Everybody for decades had been gaslit to, like every government official, every government
Starting point is 00:51:24 organization that was in the mainstream would tell you that it wasn't real. All the stuff that you're hearing isn't actually happening. And so when people see for themselves by evidence standards, what is real. and can tell you, hey, like, I already know that this Epstein stuff is real. I already know that Ufoes are real. I already know that Dogman is real and you just keep telling me it's not real. Now all of a sudden they come out with this, you know, grand announcement. Hey, UFOs are real and they've been here for, you know, decades.
Starting point is 00:51:55 And it's like, okay, well, now I'm justified. But the greater population doesn't care because you've told them for decades not to care. It's not real. It's all fake. All the stuff that you see in movies isn't real. It's like, so you're telling us it's real, but for decades you told us it's not real. Now that's what drives people crazy. That's the whole point of gaslighting is to drive them crazy and make it seem worse.
Starting point is 00:52:18 You're absolutely right. Man, this conversation is going in direction I didn't expect it to go. No. I apologize Derek. We're going to get to the criticism second. It's on the thumbnail. It kind of ties all in. But, you know, I'm going to tie it in just after you're done saying.
Starting point is 00:52:29 All right. Sounds good. But, you know, the first sin was Eve and she sought knowledge. Right? And the knowledge, kind of like that that that lure of knowledge pulled her away from truth. And it's the same thing with this as of being Christians. It's like there's a point where to know kind of risks your soul in an aspect because you're not focusing on Christ anymore. And so it's the spirit of confusion that comes because you're not, you're no longer focusing on what's important, which is the Lord Jesus. But you're moving into all these other areas, looking and seeking for truth. And sometimes, man, I don't think we're supposed to know everything.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Totally. Totally. And that's one of the biggest things that I had to get through personally. And now I'm trying to encourage other people is that I found myself for a while sitting down, not recently. This is a while ago. But sitting down to read the Bible, not because I want self-growth. I don't want to grow.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I wasn't trying to get closer to God. I was trying to find new secret things that nobody is talking about. I was trying to study the Bible to be able to say something that is like, oh, I've never thought of that before, you know? And it was totally jacked up. And there's a lot of people who approach the scriptures like that now. And you just need to get back to it being about Christ, because literally the scriptures, that's what they are.
Starting point is 00:53:58 The entire timeline is pointing to one man. And so it needs to be about Jesus. And these times that we're living in with all the distractions and everything that's coming down. I'm telling you guys, I know I say it a lot, but I'm telling you, we are just beginning this,
Starting point is 00:54:13 this mind-bending journey. It is going to get crazy. And if you are not purely, truly, in your heart, don't lie to me, and don't lie to yourself. You can word-mouth everything you want. What are you like at home?
Starting point is 00:54:27 If you are truly not in your private time, in your truck, at work, wherever you're at, focused on Christ. I'm not saying, like, right now, I'm not, like, I'm not saying that as I was making the image behind Derek, I was focused on Jesus.
Starting point is 00:54:41 But like, if you're not living your life in a way where you're trying to focus on Christ on a daily basis and your life is about Jesus, you will fall prey to what is happening and what is coming. Because dog man is coming. See how I did that not? And Bigfoot. Bigfoot and dog man are coming. That's right.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And let me just say this. The sources of Bigfoot and Dog Man coming could definitely have, ties to what is going on in the world today. I do believe that there will be probably a strong element at some point. There will be a timeline. And as we progress here, you're going to see, at one point, I believe you're going to see a lot of these monsters, these cryptids that come from different sources all at one time. But it's going to be a staged process. And I do believe at some point in this timeline of staging, you're going to see a lot of cryptids that actually, you're actually didn't come from another realm.
Starting point is 00:55:35 They, they, they, they, they were, they're not, they're not skin walkers. They're, they're not a cult magic. They're products of your own government and secret reverse engineering age, reverse engineering programs that, uh, created these creatures. I believe that Joe Barker, uh, the guy who was on our show not too long ago, I believe when, what he killed was just that, a creation. It was a hybrid creation that was a weapon. And I think that's also something that we've got to consider as we move forward in time.
Starting point is 00:56:10 The rise of these things happen. Go ahead. Do you think there could be like a hybrid Bigfoot creation? 100%. 100%. Like I focus on Dogman because, you know, it's like, look at him. He's scary. He has to be.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah. Genetically modified. Yeah. And also I think because the Bigfoot culture is so mixed. It's like, oh, Bigfoot's a hairy, forest giant, lovely friend. And then there's other people who's like, no, it's going to kill you. And there's other people who's like, oh, it's interdimensional.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Dogman, most people are like, that ain't good. You know, wherever it came from whatever it is, they're like, that ain't my friend, you know. And so Dogman takes a lead in my conversational pieces to paint the, to lay the foundation of the house that I'm building here is not a house of forest friendly giants. We'll bring in the Bigfoot topic. But the foundation, it ain't good. You know? Right.
Starting point is 00:57:03 So go ahead. Are we ready to go to Ohio? Let's go to Ohio because was Ohio the one with the military base? That's correct. Boom. Let's go. Take us there. Take us on a magical journey here.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Let's go. We're on the journey. We're going to thank Bigfoot Society and Jeremiah Byron for like getting all this information together. Yeah, big shout out. He did all this hard work. So in March 6th, according to him, around 1223 p.m., our first Bigfoot sighting is in Mantua.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Ohio. It's middle of the day. Middle of the day. And that's what's funny about a lot of these. There are actually a lot of them are in the middle of the day. Okay. And so it's like we always go out
Starting point is 00:57:40 the late at night looking for Bigfoot and it's like, I think you just find them just being out there, right? And then the next day on March 7th at 11, or 1052 p.m., again in the Montau area, there's another giant brown seven to eight foot tall being that is witnessed.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Okay. then. Can you say that where that was again? Mantua. Mantua. I think I'm saying there. So it's two in the same location? Right around the same location. Okay. Yep. Both daylight? One is the second's evening. Seconds evening? Yep. But Sunday apart. So we got March 6 in the day, March 7th at night. And then I'm just trying, I'm trying to comprehend this as you go because you're going to, you're listing things that I'm not going to be able to remember.
Starting point is 00:58:22 You're fine. I made a graph for you. I made a picture for you. So we'll pull the picture up. And then you can have the picture. And then the third case, March 9th, I have a number two for you. At 10.20 a.m., they see another 8 foot tall, black-haired being going by Garethville. Okay, which is, so it looks like those things are starting to move east. The sightings are moving eastward. Case four, Headwaters Trail, 10-foot tall, pitch black hair. And you know what, I guess I see something about the height. Like, how do you really even reference height?
Starting point is 00:58:57 it's like, that's one big son of a gun or it ain't, right? Like, it's hard to like reference like seven to ten feet. It's like, especially if you're like five foot or you're six, three. It's like, oh, he's like seven foot. And then, or he's 10 foot because you're short. Like, you can't, it's hard to make those judgments. Why'd you look at Jack like that? What I said?
Starting point is 00:59:16 Because you're short and then you looked at Jack. Am I guilty? You literally did that. I'm shocked you did that. I'm shocked you did that. Anyway, we're going to keep moving on. So case 5 is in Wyndham, and that is a six-foot-tall brown hair report. They saw a Bigfoot that was emailed to Bigfoot Society.
Starting point is 00:59:40 And then this is the odd one. There's one in Streetsboro, which is way far west, like a few, like 20 miles out of all these sightings. Case 7, Newton Township, 4 a.m. March 10th. There's a black shadow silhouette, 10 feet tall. and then the final one is case number eight, Lake Milton, seven feet tall, dark reddish brown hair. They saw it from their window 200 feet away. Reddish brown hair. So we're definitely talking about different creatures.
Starting point is 01:00:09 It could be different ones or it could be light. I mean, like it's so kind of like your picture behind you. Like if you're seeing it during daylight versus seeing it during nighttime, it could also appear differently to you. Before you go any further, Jack, can you pull that graph up again? Not that one. Jumping the gun. The one you were just flipping through. Oh, it's not a graph, but yes.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah. The list of whatever the places. I want to see the first one, and then, yeah, go to the first one. I want to see that description. And there we go. Okay, so we're talking about a four-day period. And the first description is tall brown hair. So we've had brown hair, red brown hair, black, right?
Starting point is 01:00:58 So you're definitely right. It could be the lighting on it. Because that's midday, the first one. And it's 10 cases? There are eight sightings. Eight sightings in a four-day period. What were the, if you know, I'm not sure. What were the, that four-day period,
Starting point is 01:01:20 what are the chances that somebody saw something? and then it created a storm of four, you know, over a four-day period where other people were like, oh, I saw that too. I saw that too. And they're making things up. I'm not saying that's what happened, but I'm just saying. I don't know when the flap was first reported. I don't remember when you heard it. But like, I'm not that familiar Bigfoot Society unless it's all people like, because they're reporting right to his website. So yeah. Oh, wait. Oh, are they reporting to him? Yeah. And some of these are reported right to the Bigfoot Society. So, I mean, it's a, like, it's not a gigantic website. So, I mean, like, I, I,
Starting point is 01:01:55 It's not like making public news. That makes sense now. Yeah. I was thinking this was making like the rounds online stuff, but if they're reporting to him, that's really interesting. We're a four-day period. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really interesting. So, you know, when I was looking over on Google Maps and kind of like trying to organize my thoughts around this, something keep coming up. It's all these sightings were on waterways. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:18 So in Mantua, it was either the Cuyahoga River or at the beginning of Eagle Creek. and those are for the first two. And then we see Eagle Creek again for the third, the fourth. The fifth one in Wyndham is also the Southern Fork aspect that goes right from the base. And that was viewed right around the Southern Fork of the Eagle River or the Eagle Creek. And then it moves all the way where that big bend is in the map. That's when it starts going to the Mahoning River and then works downward. So to me, it's like it makes very obvious if something's just kind of cruising along the creek
Starting point is 01:02:53 and then working its way down the river. But we're also surrounding this Garfield military base at the same time. Yeah. Which is also really interesting. So we can't also negate the fact that it's literally circling the base. And there was a full moon just two, three days before the first sighting. So I don't know if there's correlations here. I'm just saying these are things to think about.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Because what if it was some kind of military exercise and they were working recon, like around the base. Well, I mean, you just brought the military exercise, which is really interesting. Jack, keep that graphic up,
Starting point is 01:03:28 please. I'm just looking at that. So the... I guess you could probably bring us up, though, because I just realized. But that's perfect, actually.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Thank you. What's interesting is the military exercise aspect that you just brought up because the Fort Campbell in Kentucky, I was told by a soldier that was stationed there,
Starting point is 01:03:53 during their training exercises, it's common that they call out over the radio dog man. And I know I've talked about this on the show before, but I was talking to three different guys that were part of one incident over there that a dog man attacked one of the soldiers during their operation. Wow. And so could it be that one, could it be that at Fort Campbell and other bases they use their reverse engineered cryptids to train their soldiers with? Could it be that the guy's calling out dogman over the radio isn't that this thing's living on the property and they can't get rid of it, but rather it's designed to be there? I don't know. But because the Fort Campbell's not far from the LBL, which is legendarily known. And so, Jack, I know you're producing right now, but I'm pretty sure I heard a knock on the door.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I think our guests might be here if you want to let them in. I'll just keep talking real quick. Like on the studio door, yeah. So it's a legendary location though And it's so close to Fort Campbell And now if you have this graphic up And the base, the shape of the base Anybody who's listening on audio, I highly encourage you to go to
Starting point is 01:05:12 the YouTube video and just jump ahead to this spot So you can see the graphic. It's really interesting. Nothing? Okay. I told him one. Okay. Yeah. So the waterway that you mapped out, Derek, and it tracks with these sightings, and it's almost as if whatever this is, this is just me making up a story. Sure. This is me making up a story.
Starting point is 01:05:37 This is what we're going for. But it's almost as if whatever it is isn't going too far away from the base. Like, is it something that, like a dog that roams around the yard doesn't go too far away from the house? you know, could it be that it is something that has nothing to do with the base and it's just going around the base because the base is so large, it's not going on the base.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I don't know. Well, I got a theory for that because there is also an ancient burial mound right in the bend there that I put on the graph. It's been since plowed over, but right above Newton Falls, there is evidences back in the 1900s of a burial mound in that area. Is the mound the red border image? Yes, it's the red bordered image. Yep, that is the burial mound location. I took it off of Google, I don't know. So, but I always just hypothesized because...
Starting point is 01:06:30 Are you saying you're not even sure if that's the right burial mound? I just grabbed an image for it. It's not the... I'm glad you said that, though, because somebody's going to see them and like, I know what that is, and that's not in Ohio. They're going to be like, that's in Europe. Well, that mound doesn't exist anymore. So I guess they bulldoze it, they farmed it out. It doesn't exist.
Starting point is 01:06:46 But the correlation to... And then down just below the last siting, below there, there is another mound they found that's like an eagle mound. There's like the eagle effigy down there too. But the correlation a lot to certain areas we go and we see Bigfoot activity. There's a lot of burial mounds also associated to me with these sightings. So I don't know if they're spiritually significant. Like the bones of these ancients are somehow connected in summoning them or they're protecting these remnants. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:07:17 So I actually find it interesting that the first five, the first five encounters, right? Is that what I see? Correct on there? Yep, the sightings, yep. They go to, like, down towards the base. It's like starting further away going down towards the base. And then it jumps and goes to the opposite side of the base. Like it went through.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Yeah. Like, it had to come back, check in, and then get sent out in the other direction. That's not wrapping around. That's really interesting. But. That's really interesting. We're over here following Derek's Blue Line. and we may. No, they could go right through the base. Absolutely. That's interesting. Because
Starting point is 01:07:52 there is that branch that you showed Derek, Derek, after the fifth one where it goes down into the base. It's the south fork of Eagle River, yeah. Oh, wow. That's really interesting. Wow. Yeah, so I don't know, man. This is like the flap that happened. We don't know why they were seen in such hive. But that goes back to what you said. You think things of like from under the earth, like, that we know Revelation. It talks about like the beasts are going to come out and slaughter people like in Revelation, right? that like one of the judgments. Yeah. But, you know, if the government's working on these kinds of programs, maybe, dude, that
Starting point is 01:08:24 would be incredible. What if, like, in the next few weeks, we hear one of the representatives like, well, I want to know about the dog man program. Bro, then they're listening. That's a mistake of listening. What was it the other day you said, you saw somebody talk about something? You're like, maybe. Oh, the scientist is missing scientists two weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Who was it that talked about? You're like, you suggested me, maybe they're listening. I'm like, no, they're not listening. Oh, it was one of the Fox News guys. Yeah. He brought up the missing scientist like that night. He's like, it just became, I just became aware. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And we had just talked about it. On the live. I know. Breaking here first, guys. What can I say? When you're good, you're good and we're good, you know? But the, the, not servant mound, the burial mound that you were showing there. It's interesting when it doesn't have to do with this, but it's my showing.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I say what I want to say. We were hosting L.A. Mursuli a few weeks back. in the studio with his wife. And I took L.A. and his wife out to my house. And as we were approaching the house, there's a hill off the side of the road. And he goes, I bet that's a burial mound. I was like, huh?
Starting point is 01:09:34 And he's like, that's not natural. That's a burial mound. I was like, nah. Troy Brewers had something similar too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. And so maybe,
Starting point is 01:09:47 I have a burial mound that hasn't been excavated like literally across the street and it's time to dig. Let's go. Let's get the sonar. I got a bad back so Jack, well you got a bad back too. Derek. It's dawn to me guys. Bring your boys. I will make the adventure happen.
Starting point is 01:10:04 You got your three boys. Bring them. We'll pay them. What's the going rate for shoveling holes for old guys? A quarter an hour? Does that work? For the young whiper snappers? Give them a dime. A fresh shiny dine. That's so funny. Yeah, that'd be so fun though. Yeah, if that's out there, that'd be great.
Starting point is 01:10:23 That would be wild. Hopefully it's not, though, because I don't need that near me. No. Well, especially if it does actually help these beings portal conjure themselves into being in the realm. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to move on to this animal attack. And let's start off with saying what the victim of it has going right now. I'll let you guys talk. I guess, Derek, you know more about it than I do about what they're doing as far as helping with the medical bills. So, yeah, so there was a woman who was attacked. Yeah, we're going to show the club in the hospital. And let me just do it. And her, and her, and her family started to go fund me. Yeah. Jack, is that go fund me in the description? Yes. All right, cool. So what we're about to talk about is an active case.
Starting point is 01:11:17 happening now and the lady is the family is in dire need of financial help when it comes to these medical bills that they're facing from from this attack and they already had pre-existing things in the family as far as health goes and so as we're talking about the story and sharing about it if you feel inclined to help donate to help that family go ahead and do so we're going to be donating today I don't think we have yet, right? Not yet. No, but we're going to donate $1,000 to the family today, and we encourage other people to do as well. In fact, I guess you don't have that access, Jack. So maybe while you're talking, Derek, I'll do it now if I can. But that's a lot of multitasking. Absolutely. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:04 so we're going to go head out to Oklahoma. There's a news clip, Jack, if you want to get that ready to go. And then we're going to check out this crazy story. New tonight, a McAllister mom is fighting for her life after a brutal animal attack, leaving her husband and two young daughters in a tough position. Alicia Maxie was found severely injured Sunday morning. On top of that, her husband Wallace is on dialysis and waiting for a kidney transplant. Fox 23's Page Orr joins us live in studio. Page, you talk to the family and to investigators. That's right, guys. Investigators originally thought that a dog was responsible, but the Pittsburgh County Sheriff's Office is now working with wildlife to identify the animal.
Starting point is 01:12:50 As they search for answers, Alicia's family is struggling to stay afloat without their sole breadwinner and without a vehicle to get Wallace to his life-saving treatments. In a remote yard in Blanco, Oklahoma, Alicia Maxie was ambushed before she could even reach the front door of a home
Starting point is 01:13:06 where she was hoping to find work. She heard a deep growl. She said that she could remember this growl and she turned to run back to the truck and something just pounced on. just pounced on her and knocked her to the ground. And she says it was dog-like is what she described, but she didn't say it was certainly a dog.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Alicia was airlifted to Ascension St. John in Tulsa with gruesome injuries to her face, arms and legs. For her husband Wallace, the first sight of his wife in the ICU was beyond anything he expected. Whenever I first walked in here, I wasn't expecting to see this. You know, I was thinking more like a dog chewed up on her leg or or bites on her arm or something. I went and expected news.
Starting point is 01:13:51 But when I first walked in and I seen her, I just broke down and started crying. I'm not too much pain to say anything right now. While Alicia fights through her fourth surgery, Pittsburgh County Sheriff Frankie McClendon says the sheer scale of the attack has prompted a search for answers. 38 years, I've never been involved
Starting point is 01:14:09 or seen anything to this extent as far as injuries caused by a wild animal. Our question now is what caused these injuries? We've got the Department of Wildlife. They have actually taken some of the evidence, some of the clothing that was ripped from her and send it off to one of their labs to see what we can find out if there's any way to identify what type of animal. The tragedy has left the couple six and seven-year-old daughters in a hard spot. Wallace is currently on the list for a kidney, but since their only car was towed after the attack,
Starting point is 01:14:39 he has no way to get to his dialysis appointments two hours away. Now, got it? Yeah, that's it. Okay. So while we were doing that, I did put a donation through so people can go and piggyback off of me and donate to the family and support them. They are definitely in need and we like helping people in need. So go ahead, Derek. Take it away.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Okay. So she is in this area. And what's interesting was when I started looking backwards into this, what I realized is like, wow, her husband looks like First Nations. So I'm like, I would dug a little deeper into where they're at, and they're actually in the Choctaw Reservation. So this whole area is one of, so it's Choctaw, Cherokee, Seminole, and I think there's one more tribal, still out in Oklahoma. But this is all Choctaw land. Sound familiar? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Yeah. Yeah. Tribal lands? Yeah. Like Utah? Yeah. Yeah. And so we're out in, so she is going to look for a job.
Starting point is 01:15:44 She gets out of the car. I guess there's like a ranching gig that she wants to go and ask the lady for. She goes and she hears growling. And all of a sudden she gets attacked and gets mauled so badly. I think the image is in the go-foam. I mean, like, it's just horrendous. And she's basically left for dead for an hour until the homeowner returns. That happens to be an EMT.
Starting point is 01:16:07 And then they mercy flight her out to save her life. But, yeah, I mean, so again, like they say it's dog. She says dog like. They don't say dog. They also, like, they don't specify. And when they're, when these, the sheriff even is like in, in the news anchors, they're still saying, like, we don't want to say it's just a dog, right? You can, you can tell in the way they're saying it's not just a dog.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah. So, like, there's coyotes out there. There's wild packs of dogs that I was looking for in these things. But it's not just a dog. It's not just a dog pack. Like, there's something weird happened. He said in 38 years, he's never seen anything like this. So what was it?
Starting point is 01:16:47 What is it that attacked him? What are these... What occurred that day? In the middle of the day, again. Yeah. You know? What I saw, there was a report that said that the bite was not consistent with a canine. Like, it wasn't consistent with a dog bite.
Starting point is 01:17:03 So, I mean, it doesn't mean it's not dog man, because dogman is different than a dog. But that area, like, they apparently, the dogman lore in that area goes back to, I don't remember the name of the like Native American lore behind it's like Ichiti or something like that which is something that present could present itself as a dogman or a coyote like you know shape shifter type thing. So that's like the Native American lore from the Oklahoma dogman sightings that they've seen before. And what's really interesting too is somebody had said that it was there's black bear like the hibernation is up so they're starting to see black bear coming through in that area, which is common.
Starting point is 01:17:46 But wouldn't it just be crazy? Because when did this happen, Derek? Do you remember? On a full moon? On what kind of full moon, though? You mentioned it to me. When we were driving at one point, what kind of full moon that was? It was like a red moon or something?
Starting point is 01:18:00 Was it the worm moon? Worm moon. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, happening just so happens to happen on a worm moon, full moon night. What was the time again? It's during the day It was during the day?
Starting point is 01:18:14 Yeah. Wow. Wow. I had heard a report that whatever it was was still on C when people showed up. Have you heard of that? No.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I haven't heard any reports. It's also interesting that they took the car. So did it also attack the car for evidence? They lost the car. That's what they said in the newscast. But why would you, like, if you got attacked by a dog, why would they take your car?
Starting point is 01:18:37 You know what I mean? It doesn't make sense. So there's some reason they took the car probably for evidence to see what was going on. Yeah. Is she talking? Is she like conscious in talking? She's still in intensive care.
Starting point is 01:18:50 That was her recorded voice, though, that they played on that. That was the last voice call that we played on the news anchor or news clip. That wasn't the sister? No, it was Alicia. It was her actual voice. Okay. I didn't realize that. I'd be interested to hear what she remembers, like in detail.
Starting point is 01:19:11 you know, I had heard, and I'm not sure it was in that clip or another one, the idea that the paw or the hands were white. And so there's like white hair involved with this. I think I was talking, I wasn't talking, I was not talking. I was listening to, I believe it was her sister-in-law doing an interview, I think it was, on a YouTube channel. And she was very hesitant as to labeling what this was. And that itself should tell you something. And I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to take this unfortunate situation
Starting point is 01:19:53 and say it's definitely a dog man, right? It's not what I'm trying to do. But my wife was attacked by a dog when she was a kid. It was a Rottweiler. It mouled her. To this day, she has a giant scar on the back of her arm.
Starting point is 01:20:10 We just got our first dog after 20 years of marriage because she was like terrified of dogs. Nobody described that incident as a dog-like thing. Right. Especially if it was still on scene. You know, the bite marks not being consistent
Starting point is 01:20:30 with a canine. The description being dog-like, if true it being still unseen when the first person arrives, like anybody, outside, the woman getting attacked who everything is a blur at that moment for her, would be able to see it from the outside and say, it was a dog. It was a bear. Yeah. The fact that there's so much vagueness around what attacked her should tell you it was
Starting point is 01:20:57 something off. It's not, like, if it was just a dog, they would say it's just a dog. Yeah. We know what dogs look like. And they did DNA testing and you know they're like, it's not going to come back. they're not going to reveal what it is. It's always going to be in the dark because it's going to be too weird. And also, no, I'm just going to. I did it on purpose. I did it on purpose.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Because he was about to start talking and then he goes, and he melted. I was just staring blankly at Derek as one does when they're ready to plot something against someone. Go for it. Anyway, so a legendary CEO in the chat said that the owner's dog,
Starting point is 01:21:37 the property owner's dog was standing next to her. was the one that found her. Oh. And so, like, it was a dog that was unseen. Like, it was guarding her. Wow. Which,
Starting point is 01:21:45 what does that sound like, Tony? My rooster. Oh, sorry. I don't know. What? No, it sounds like one of the most famous stories
Starting point is 01:21:53 that you have ever recorded. Dog versus dogman. A dog was guarding another person. I was thinking of my chickens. It reminded me my chickens. Because when I arrived on the scene, my rooster was trying to protect my hens that were getting eaten. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Sorry. Yeah. Well, anyway. Just drawn the correlation there. A dog was guarding someone. If that's the case. So there's a lot of really interesting lore to this area, too, that I think we should go into real quick
Starting point is 01:22:20 before we wrap up. So this area of Oklahoma is actually also known for a lot of orbs. There's a lot of orb sightings. There's... What's it up north? It's Joplin. The Joplin lights are just north of this area.
Starting point is 01:22:37 So there's a lot of like tie-ins with these orb. and with the witchcraft, the Native American witchcraft also in this area. Like what Jack was mentioning, the Alichi, and then the bad ones are the Hatakchia or something like that. So those are the dark witches, and they do, for their own purposes, will do magic and are able to shape-shift themselves. Did you just say the bad ones? The dark witches, the bad ones? The bad ones.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I'm just trying to, I'm not trying to be respectful of the culture here, okay? So the... We don't do that here. But, well, what's interesting, too, is that they, it says when they shape shift, when one thing I was reading is that they do it to target family members. So like, that's why, like, him being native, her being white, is there some, I'm cool, I'm totally, allegedly speculation here, you know, but like, is there some kind of skin walker tie in to him being native, First Nations? and then her being white and then just or is it happenstance? Is it just bad place wrong time? Is this completely thought out and processed?
Starting point is 01:23:46 You know, maybe it was the auntie who was like, hey, I got this job offer. You should go show up here at noon and then she's there waiting, shape shifted as a skinwalker. Like, I don't know. And it's also super crazy is there's the old Catherine Cross. And she's in a local cemetery. Talk about it. Yeah, man. And so in this gravestone, it actually is so crazy that people have stolen.
Starting point is 01:24:07 stolen the gravestone. But we found a picture and it actually, at the very bottom... Can you zoom in on the jack? Can we zoom in? Is it possible? Can I? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I don't think so. Everybody double-tapped your screen. Zoom in on the video. At the very bottom, it says what, Derek? I can't read it. Murdered by human wolves. Murdered? It's the italics at the bottom there.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Thank you, yes. Murdered by human wolves. So this was in the early 1900s. Is that what it says on that? She was only, what, 18 years old? 1899 to... 17 or 1917. So yeah, I mean, she was 18 years old.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Human wolves. That's cool. Like, so there's all this evidence that ties in orbs, human wolves, I mean, Skinwalker, you got Native American lore, you have the dark witches, you have all this stuff that ties into shape-shifting. And I think this is, to me, where this story
Starting point is 01:25:01 is different than Bigfoot. Bigfoot could be governmental. It could be spiritual, you know, in Ohio. but this seems to me to be most likely, in my thinking, moving more towards the Skinwalker side of things. Well, that's not good because that would mean that it's more than one element that people are dealing with then. Because we know that there's a cryptid side of it. We know that there's the governmental side of it, which we talked about, the Bigfoot stuff. But if this is a rise of Skinwalkers, that would be concerning as well. I think what we should do on the show from now on
Starting point is 01:25:39 we'll do the bad ones and the bad bad bad ones Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Let's do a ranking system. There's bad, there's bad, bad, and then there's bad, bad, bad. Let's get your votes in the comment. Someone can make a good list for us. Oh, man. But, no, I think that the Skinwalker angle
Starting point is 01:25:59 very well could be something. And then you look at the history of Oklahoma. And, you know, people say that this never happened. and it's just a legend and very well could be, but one of the characters in the story was a very real man who did die that same year. But the Bigfoot War of 1855, you know, like happened in Oklahoma. And the legend of that was that there was United States military teaming up with a tribe of Native Americans that were seven feet tall and taller. Hmm. Interesting. And what are they doing? They're going out and hunting down the legend of this Bigfoot that was taking women,
Starting point is 01:26:36 and children. They found them. I think there's like three or four of them. There was this fight that happened and they killed them. There was people that lost their lives in it. So as those legends get passed down, what if, you know, say it's a legend being passed down orally and you're not really worried about oral tradition
Starting point is 01:26:53 and Grandma's telling a story and he's like, you know what? I'm really fascinated by that Bigfoot thing. Let's change it up and make this a big foot that they were hunting. What if it wasn't? What if it was Skinwalkers? What if it was very powerful skinwalkers? that were in that area.
Starting point is 01:27:08 And the United States military and these Nephilim, Native American tribe, went out to kill him. You know, I don't know. But there is that legend that happened in Oklahoma as well. And then historical dog man, right? Like you have with historical evidences of dog-like men that did exist as well. Oh, yeah, 100%. We're going to have Shane, Seth Vaynerbrook back in studio at some point this year. I know we're working on schedule.
Starting point is 01:27:35 August. But not August. August. August? Okay. Gotcha. Bummer. So it would be sooner.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Anyways. So, yeah, because he covers the historical dogman. We did an episode on that. I actually have done two episodes with him on it. The first one was a member's episode.
Starting point is 01:27:52 The second one, I brought him down to the studio for in studio. He's coming back down because there's more to talk about. That's crazy. The historical dog man is a very real thing. And when you start looking through historical documents, it really opens your perspective up to how supernatural our world is and how we've essentially been lied to through our culture.
Starting point is 01:28:14 We're designs and products of our culture. And our culture has not allowed for us to fathom what's happening around us in a supernatural worldview. And when you look back through history, you see that wasn't always the case. And Dogman, I know. as ridiculous as it sounds to some people. You mean a werewolf? No, apparently, apparently, I didn't say it.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Apparently, there's a whole group of people who do not like dog man being called werewolf. They got very grumpy if you call a dog man a werewolf. So don't do that. Don't do that. But the idea of werewolves in pop culture makes the idea of dog man as a realistic thing look ridiculous. Same thing with Bigfoot. Even the, and I know there's this big argument right now going on with the Patterson film,
Starting point is 01:29:08 but even the Patterson film itself made Bigfoot viewed in a certain light that it may not be. And Dogman, the fact that we have historical documentation of tribes, of dogheaded people who were mercenaries and were hired to be mercenaries because they were that good at killing. And then when you look into scriptures and you see David's Mighty Men, the bodyguard, I always want to say Benaha Elohim. But that's not who it is. It's Benaya.
Starting point is 01:29:42 And how he killed two lion-like men from Moab, which Moab was a place of giants, Nephilim, hybrids. When you look at all this stuff, you're just like, yeah, there's real historical context to take what people say they're encountering today's series. Well, if they were out there,
Starting point is 01:30:00 we'd see them. People are saying they're seeing them and you're just not believing them. Oh, man. That's good. So that's on you. That's on you. Yeah. But it's unfortunate that this woman had to get mauled by something. And I'm hoping that people can go and help support. Like I said, the link is in the description. I don't know if we have plans for it, but if we don't, Jack, maybe you can throw the link as the pin comment as well. Sure. So it's easier for people. but you know if you're listening to this on replay we'll have it in the on the podcast we'll have it in the description uh please if you feel inclined even if it's five dollars it's it helps you know i mean i'm literally one who has greatly benefited from the generosity of other people with
Starting point is 01:30:46 lindsay's uh health issues i mean our our bills have been through the roof insane and i can't like i i you guys i don't if you were here yet, Derek. I mean, I can't remember, but, like, Jack was here. Like, I think you were here. Like, I really did not think I was going to actually ask for help. It was not in my nature. I had no idea how bad my bills were going to get, but I knew they were going to get bad. They got real bad. Oh, yeah. Right. Like, I think it's not a week that goes by that Lindsay brings up the fact that thank God we got help because I don't know what we'd be doing right now. So. And when you're in the
Starting point is 01:31:26 ICU in a situation like she's in, you know, it stacks up. It's even more. Yeah. There's a lot that just goes into that. And the damage looks pretty irreversible. Like, I think there was facial damage and like all that. So yeah, we'll just be praying for her. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. And if you want, don't forget, join the show for... Become a member. All that stuff. You know, hit the join button. Let me tell you something. I don't watch TV. I don't watch movies. You all know that. But when I'm in the basement with my... dog and I'm not in my bed and it's just like I'm in this like weird like liminal space and I'm like I look at the TV I'm like let me turn that thing on turn it on turn Netflix on there's a TV show
Starting point is 01:32:12 it's a limited series on Netflix that and this has nothing to do with this I'm just extending the shows to give people an opportunity to go help donate but I binged it in two days and it I can't say it was good because I don't know what good is because everybody else watches stuff more than I do. For somebody who doesn't watch anything, I guess anything could be good. But I thought it was pretty good. What's the date?
Starting point is 01:32:43 Jack, I talked to you about this. I can never remember JFK's assassination date. March, or not March, November 11th or like November 12th, 1963, or was it November 20th? November 20th. 1122.62.63 is what the limited series is called on Netflix. And I imagine the playwright of it, the storyline being pitched and offered on the surface scene ridiculous. But the way it was produced, it was good. And it's about this guy who's a
Starting point is 01:33:19 teacher in Maine and his old man buddy that has a diner introduces him, I think in the first episode, he's like, hey, come on over to the diner tonight. He goes to a diner. His buddy's dying from cancer. And he said, go in the, go in the storage room. He's like, why am I going to the storage room? He's like, just keep going. Just keep walking. He's why am I walking back in the storage? And all a sudden he falls down on his face and he's, he stands up in a dirt lot. And he's, he times, traveled through a portal back to 1960, three years before the assassination. And he's like, what is this? And he goes back. And he goes back into the diner. He's like, what is this? And he's like, listen, I've been trying to stop the JFK assassination for, you know, so long.
Starting point is 01:34:05 I go, I'll be gone for three years over there. And it's only like two minutes that passes by here. And I'm dying from cancer. You need to pick up the torch. He gives him all his material, his study material. And he goes. And he's gone. And the whole movie's about him over a three-year period or movie limited series about a three-year period trying to stop the JFK assassination and he's successful. He's successful.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Spoiler. He's successful. Spoiler. Now I'm not watching the show, Tony. I'm just going to tell everybody, whatever. But the problem is he broke some rules and one of the rules that he broke was you're not supposed to get attached to people. He fell in love with a lovely young lady.
Starting point is 01:34:48 And during the... attempt on JFK, she dies. And so he, he goes back to, I'm just spoiling, I don't care. I was just going to say, spoiler. It's a classic you can't keep those things. Like, yeah, I mean, I don't care. I never watch anything. So y'all just kind of deal with my excitement that I watch something.
Starting point is 01:35:06 So then, like, he's, he's out of it. Like, he's just like, you know, this, he goes back to his normal time and everything's changed. Dystopia. It's just, he stopped the assassination. and it ruined everything. And so he goes back to the diner. And he goes back to 1960 and resets the timeline.
Starting point is 01:35:30 And he goes and looks up his lovely sweetheart that doesn't know who he is because he reset the time. Every time he goes through this portal, it resets to the same day. And she doesn't know who he is, but he realizes that it doesn't matter what the timeline is, if he does this,
Starting point is 01:35:49 she's always going to die. And so he chooses to let her live. And I was like, oh, that's so, that's so kind. And it warmed my heart. And so it goes back to his time and he looks her up and she's an old lady. And he goes and meets with her and he just visits with her as a stranger. And I may want to cry. Wow.
Starting point is 01:36:12 So now everybody can not watch the show. Yeah. Yeah, I'm good. Thank you. man, I saved us time. I almost clicked on it the other day too, so. There you go. You don't have to waste my hours.
Starting point is 01:36:24 It's a fun series, though. It's fun. And there's a portal in it. So there you go. I don't know how I got on that. Me either. But anyways. I watch the show.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Yay. Yay. Guys, we appreciate you being here. We have a guest coming here within less than 10 minutes to record. Tell people who's coming in. We have Travis Roy, who does like, ancient, American history and he goes through sites
Starting point is 01:36:51 and has really cool like perception and ideas about like what early history was. Yeah, he does a lot of like he posts on an Instagram Jack in fact look up his Instagram and put it into description at some point he does a lot of like
Starting point is 01:37:05 article clipping and showing giants throughout history and it's just going to be fun conversation. You have to bring up Oklahoma see if he knows about the Oklahoma BigFunds. Maybe he will. Maybe he will. but anyways, he's coming in here, so we've got to wrap this up.
Starting point is 01:37:20 I hope you guys enjoyed the conversation that we had today. The whole first half of the show about JD Vance. What do we talk about? I can't remember now. Pizza gate. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Thank you. All the conspiracy stuff. That was like literally, I don't think I even told you guys what we were talking about there. I was just like, just trust me. Jack, hit play when I tell you to hit play. But I think that, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:44 I don't know. I don't know if it was a balance show, but it was a show. You guys got anything before we get out of here? Yeah, if you are curious about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, we have the gospel at the Confessionalspodcast.com. So you can check that out and decide for yourself if you want to make a decision for Jesus today. It's the Confessionalspodcast.com slash gospel.
Starting point is 01:38:05 That is where you can get it and read through it and win in life today. So you can win in life tomorrow. In eternity. Amen. All right. See you guys. Oh boy! Is that a slingshot? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Flingshot season. Hey, let's run it. Grace hit me like, boom, can't miss. God with me, whole squad going, devil try to throw shit. I grin, cause the light too bright. Walk in the spot like who that, standing in the slang and the truth slap. Never in the way we moved that. All my name for the hit like a du wreck.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I was stuck in the valley that view bad. Now I'm up in the hills with a food bag. God took all my elves ran through that. Now the wind stack high like a new stack. Every step with the light, that's a blueprint. Whole pack getting bright cause he's doing it. He the king, so the crown got a new fidd and the cross here harder than a new clip. We ain't here just about it's a movement.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Every giant in the way he'll move it. If the world wanna hate, we cool with it because the love is strong. To the tree life, boom, came in snow. Guy with me, whole squad gone like grand cause the light too bright. I've been down in the dirt now I'm cleaned up. Blood bought brand new, never dreamed up. Every thrown out of stone trying to team up, got 50,000 standing here feeling beamed up. I remember them nice in the struggle.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Feeling way down deep by the dirt. trouble but he showed up strong bro the muzzle now the fake bill bit like a double we're here for the frame of the flash we just point to the king let him flash living water in the cup no cap in the well don't run dry that's that fax now we run another pat with a show step every loss is a set up for the best yet every giant in my face is a test bet got swing once here like boom boom can't

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