The Confessionals - Congressman Matt Gaetz Reveals Alien-Human Hybrids | Slingshot Nation

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Former Congressman Matt Gaetz just said something that has people asking serious questions, and most aren’t realizing the full weight of it.On this Slingshot Nation, we break down the growing conve...rsation around alien-human hybrids and what it could actually mean. Is this advanced science, a controlled narrative, or something that connects back to ancient accounts and spiritual realities? Why is this topic being spoken about more openly right now?We’re digging into the deeper layer. There’s a bigger picture forming, and it’s not being talked about clearly.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Big Picture Prophecy Conference REPLAY - Catch the whole conference still available at prophecyconference26.comTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMy NEW Website: tonymerkel.comBo Kennedy - The BUMP PodcastAll Bo's Links: linktr.ee/thebumppodcastMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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Starting point is 00:00:37 I'm not? Perfect. I want everybody to know. I'm about killing the Nethlum. Welcome to another live show, everybody. Thanks for being here. Slingshot Nation Live, also known as SNL, the more important SNL. Derek, how are you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:00:55 Feeling great, man. I just want to reach out and thank all of the guys who have become members. My brother became a member this past week. So I'm going to him a shout out. Gabe? Yeah. Shout out to Gabe. And my nephew Luke, he will watch us all the time. Slingshot Nation. He loves it. So yeah, be like them guys. Become a member, join us. And get like members episodes and all this good stuff that is unpacked at the confessional's podcast. Yeah. Hit the join button and have some fun with your life.
Starting point is 00:01:22 That's right. That's what I always say. Derek, I appreciate you being here. I was about to say, Jack, but I'm going to look over at Jack first. Jack, are you ready to go on camera? Yeah. Awesome. Jack, how you doing? I'm good. Good, good. The hair is looking fantastic. I love the hair.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Thank you. We're still working on doing a new system. And what we need to do is the next step is finding time to go live for the members so that we can just test out the system. And it's not going to be very, it might be entertaining, to be honest with you. But the agenda of that live will be working out how to use this technology. You might hear, Jack, what are you doing? Jack, what are you doing? My man, am I on? Am I on?
Starting point is 00:02:05 But so we're still on the other stuff, stream yard. So because we're on stream yard, it takes Jack a few minutes to be able to get everything situated. So I wanted to make sure before I swing over to him that he's ready. So thanks for being here, guys. We got an awesome show planned for you. We've been around the world and back over this past week. And it's just been bonkers. In fact, I think last week when we went live, Josh was here.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And that was a day before the chaos began. Oh, yeah. And less than a week, I've been to Alabama, North Carolina, and Dallas, Texas. So at Birmingham, Alabama, to Knoxville, from Knoxville to Charlotte, North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina, back to Knoxville, from Knoxville to Dallas, Dallas, back to Knoxville. We got back yesterday. And here we are, cracking the whip, boys. get in the studio, we're working.
Starting point is 00:03:02 That's wild. It's wild. It's wild how much we do. We go all over the place. And you were the one that traveled the most out of all of us. Yeah, it was kind of nuts, but it was fun. I had, I spoke at Larry Raglan's The Big Picture Prophecy Conference, which was it was awesome. It was really cool to be there on Friday night with everybody. Alan and Joseph, I was listening to Joseph Z's talk from Saturday brought heat. He brought heat.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And I'm not sure if it's still available or not. But if you just go to prophecy, was it, Prophecy Conference 26.com, you might be able to still purchase, like, streaming tickets and watch the replay. But it was just really cool. But we went down there. We had a drive back Saturday morning. I picked up my son, drove me and my son to North Carolina. We went to a Sixers Hornets basketball game, his very first one, which was awesome because it just, it was an awesome ending to the game. The Sixers won.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I told him, I said, son, not every game's like this. He was so excited. Stayed there Saturday night, drove back Sunday to Knoxville, basically hugged and kissed my family, hopped on a plane, flew to Dallas, and we recorded Season 2 of the Counter show, which Pastor Troy Brewer, Alan Deo, Joseph Z, Darren Stott, Brian Schwartz, and myself.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And we covered, you know, UAP's aerial phenomenon. We covered cryptids specifically for an episode this season. And I think that's probably the most I've talked on every episode. I felt like everybody just kind of like, as soon as they said, so cryptids, everybody just kind of like turned to me and looked. And I was like, I guess this is my role for this episode. You lose me. It's time to nerd out on cryptis today, guys. Wait, just my glasses.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But, yeah, so, I mean, it was just a great time. We talked about weather hacking and just a lot of different things. And so people can look forward to that. I think Pastor Troy is shooting for probably late, late summer, early fall for the release of season two. And this year, I think what they're doing a little bit different is they're actually going to make available the entire season to ODX.TV members. So people who give to that platform will have access to the entire season right away
Starting point is 00:05:16 instead of having to wait week by week for the episode releases, which is pretty cool. A lot of great things coming out of there. We are already planning season three. And it's just big, big, time stuff because we're serving a big, big, big God, and he's doing big, big things through people. And can I say real quick, like, his ministry is incredible. Yeah. And, like, the people there are incredible. And, like, what they're doing is just amazing. Like, they're rescuing children from all
Starting point is 00:05:41 across the world in Africa, South America. And they have just fearlessness that I wish was more contagious of the church. I mean, and that's the thing, like, literally, the reason why we're doing the counter is to raise funds to save kids. So to save one child, it costs two, thousand dollars to to to to to house that child for a whole month. I think that's what it is. It's like the every time he saves a kid, it's another $2,000 monthly bill to to save the child, rescue it, how is it? Because they don't just turn it over to the systems. They put these kids in homes. They nurture them. They love them. They give them homes to live in for the rest of their lives. And usually those homes now are run. It's like their own new family. And the parents in
Starting point is 00:06:24 that house, we're also trafficked and saved through Troy's ministry. And the way he sets us up is that, like, this child comes to this house, this is your new family, we love on you, we share Jesus with you. And then as they get older, they can go and pursue education or whatever, but they always have a home to come to. That will be their home. And that's their family. And he says, I think he says he's got over five, there are six thousand kids himself. A lot of those kids decided to take his last name. Wow. So, I mean, he says, he's got over five, there are six thousand kids. There are six thousand kids. So, I mean, He's been doing this for, I think, 30 years, and he's saved over 12,000 children. And so the creation of the counter was to raise funds to help save more children.
Starting point is 00:07:08 There's not a shortage. Epstein was not the head of the snake. It's an industry that completely thrives and prosperous still. And Pastor Troy is, I've never met anybody that's more involved in human trafficking. And I've actually met a lot of people fighting human trafficking. Let me phrase that, more involved in fighting human trafficking. But I've met a lot of people, you know, and not to diminish anybody else's efforts. But Pastor Troy's been doing this a long time, a really long time.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And so he's been tested and I just so much respect. So if anybody saw season one of the counter, you can watch. What we do is we film an entire hour of an episode. And the first 30 minutes we put up on YouTube free for everybody. and if people want to watch the entire episode and its entirety, they can go to ODX.tv and sign up to be a monthly partner at that platform. And you can watch the entire episode and all your money just goes to saving children. So you literally are getting a banger of an hour episode, 10 episodes each. And your investment in that information, entertainment goes directly to saving
Starting point is 00:08:21 children. In fact, just last night, and this is not what we're talking about today, but I've just got to just throw praises towards Uncle Troy. Just last night, he texted me and the guys, another child that they saved and her story. And she supposedly, I think was 18, but he said she's actually 15, and she had been trafficked and brought up to be a prostitute and just a lot, numerous abuses that took place in her life. And last night was the first night that she had a safe bed to sleep in. And so they sent pictures. So they take pictures of the kids are rescuing.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And he doesn't have a whole lot of information on this one because it's still an active rescue. His operators are actually still on the ground, I believe rescuing kids, but also I think they're taking down the traffickers on this mission. But because it's active, I don't have a ton of information. They always send confirmation pictures. And this little girl, 15 years old, she's wearing, she's, she's had numerous abortions. And because, you know, obviously it's like forced abortion. You're not going to make money.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But she was wearing a maternity shirt. And it wasn't that she was pregnant. It was her prostitution attire for her breasts to be exposed with that shirt. And so it's like this is the world that operates in the darkness that we don't see as normal, solid human beings in this world. We don't get to see that darkness. But it sure is there and it's operating. And there's more people involved in such things that you can imagine. And so the fact that Troy's been doing this for 30 years fighting and saved over 12th.
Starting point is 00:10:11 When I met him, it was under 11,000. So that's how many people he's saved within the last year and a half that I've been. been friends with him is, you know, he's 12,000 people he's saved now, children. And this year, last year, I think it was nine hundred and eight thousand. Yeah, I wish. Nine hundred and eight children they saved last year, women and children. And this year, the goal is to save over a thousand. And so I think they're on pace for that. And so anyways, that's what the whole reason is for the counter. It's not just for education and entertainment, but it's to literally save human beings from from sex and prostitution so um anyways that was a whole sidebar uh thanks for being here
Starting point is 00:10:55 guys but that's what i was doing last week or this week and last week i was preaching at the big big prophecy conference and filming season two of the counter uh we're definitely planning season three and it's going to be a banger uh today in studio we got beau kennedy here how you doing man i'm doing good tony thanks for having me on man it's a pleasure i'm glad you're here man like it's just i love hanging out with you you. I appreciate it, man. I like being here. That works out. I remember the first time I had you on the show years ago, it was remotely. And I was like, I like that guy. And I wasn't really even considering doing a ton of in studio stuff at that time like I do now. And I remember when you came down here the first time,
Starting point is 00:11:35 I was like, dude, we just clicked. Yeah, bro. And I couldn't have, I couldn't wait to have you come back. And I think you've been here twice now. Yeah, this is my second time. Oh, this is your second time. I thought it was your third time. Okay. I can't remember. So this is your, your second time here, third time being on the show in one way or another. Today we're going to be recording another episode with you on your new book, Terror by Night. Get it today on Amazon. Make sure that's framed right. There we go. Get it today on Amazon. Terror by Night. Army of God. Terror by Night by Bo Kennedy. And let me just read this back to you guys, because this is just wild. This is a novel that Bo wrote based off of his research and the information that he's gathered being the host of the
Starting point is 00:12:17 Bump podcast and all the research he's done. Now, he's from Appalachia, right? West Virginia. West Virginia. I was going to say, I didn't think it was Virginia. It was West Virginia. I know that accent. On the back of the book, this is what it says, welcome to Appalachia, the land of ancient curses, burial mounds of giants, mysterious artifacts, legends of cryptic, spiritual warfare, the paranormal, principalities, which, portals and seven friends caught in the middle of it all. Man, that, I mean, I literally got goosebumps reading that. So I'm excited to dive into this myself and we're going to be talking about it on the recording today and the different topics. And I just want you to just kind
Starting point is 00:12:58 of pour out your heart with this book, man. It's going to be great. So since you're here to record, we figured why not have you on the live? I'm really starting to enjoy having guests for the in-studio live stuff. And let us know in the comments section if you like, having us have guests in here sometimes. If you like Bo, give it a thumbs up. If you don't like Bo, give him a thumbs down. I don't care. It all helps the algorithm.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I won't go read. He's not too sensitive. He'll be fine. But anyway, so today, let's get into some of this topic now. It's been actually a developing topic today for us. We came in loosely with the idea of doing aliens, you know. And is it aliens? Let me put my hands up.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Pretend I have a big hair. Aliens. But there's been a lot of things breaking recently. And, you know, it seems like right now in 2006, we have two really big hot topic things that are more in vain for this show that are happening globally. One is disclosure, aliens, UFOs, NHA, all that department. And then there's artificial intelligence. And I think as we go through time, as this stuff unfolds, those two topics are going to start doing this because I think what they're doing,
Starting point is 00:14:15 and we'll get into this in a second, but I think what they're doing is they're actually using parts of AI to accomplish their goals with some of these dark programs. Like, you know, well, we'll get into it in a second. But Derek, before we get into the first clip with the senator from Australia, when it comes to these topics, the hybrids and just, disclosure. What is your your thoughts on just as a whole this topic? I mean, is this something that you think traditionally, at least for myself, I would get inundated with this kind of stuff. And
Starting point is 00:14:55 in the back of my mind, like, this is going to blow over at some point. For an example, a few weeks ago, we didn't even have a chance to talk about it on the show yet. And we may not now because it's so far behind. But a few weeks ago, there was this outbreak of Bigfoot sightings in Ohio, right? this is the very first time I've even mentioned it on the show. But in the back of my mind, I'm like, this is going to blow over. Like at some point, I'm not saying it's not true, but what I'm saying is like, it's going to move on, right? It seems like this stuff, when it comes to disclosure, isn't blowing over, but getting more and more complex. Do you get a sense that at some point we're going to look back as this was an era of our existence?
Starting point is 00:15:35 Or do you think that this is going to be something that we don't get a chance to look back on because it's just going to be part of our existence. It's definitely shifting. I mean, even the idea, like Chris Bletsso, even this week, we know that he's got his prophecy around Easter. That's something huge is going to happen in the disclosure area where they're going to show themselves, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:58 That the star is going to appear over the sphinx, which is actually the same as Space Force's logo, and like all that is occurring like this weekend. So we're moving in this, unstoppable direction. And I think you're right on both accounts. Like it's going to come and we're not going to be able to stop it. But at the same time, we will look back and be like, it's like pre-COVID. It'd be like, oh, man, remember when you could just do what you like, you didn't have to be six feet apart. You didn't have to do all this stuff. Or, you know, before 9-11 is like you could just take
Starting point is 00:16:27 stuff on the plane and like that like remembrance of how things were just slightly different before. It's going to be that again. And I think we're in that period of time. We're like appreciate what you have now because it will be shifting. You know, it's interesting. But I want to hear your thoughts on this too. I was listening to our friend Joseph Z preach and one of the things that he said that really struck me, he brought up the year 2012 and also Y2K. And he has a lot of prophetic unction about 2007 and things, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but things getting more complicated. And he said the same spirit that was behind Y2K and 2012 was behind 2027. And I was just like, wow, wow, okay. So like if you think back on those times, you know, like you said,
Starting point is 00:17:23 2019, when you think back of those times, there was something in the air that was different. there were leaders in the church who were ready to pack it up because the mind calendar is ending and so therefore the world is ending like literally Christian leaders you know and so there's a spirit of manipulation when it comes behind these different years that we're discussing right now and I think 2027 might be one of them what are your thoughts on everything though man I've looked forward to disclosure all my life right ever since you know I was a little boy And my dad, when he was in the Air Force, he worked for the NSA, and he would disclose some things as I got to be a teenager, some things that he read or things that he tried to figure out. And so I always believed, but I can't help now, but feel like now that the government is admitting all this stuff's going on, that I don't want to hear it from them.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah. You know what I mean? It's almost like it's full distraction. maybe it's opportunistic. You know, maybe there's so much chaos going in the world. They're like, we can now leak the truth about disclosure. But there's, like you said, Derek, there's nothing we could really do. You know, we'd have to sit back and watch and see what's going on. But it's interesting, man.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's very interesting. And for me to say that is crazy because when disclosure first started happening, I couldn't wait for it to be over. my mind, I was like, this is going to blow over. I was waiting for it to blow over. I was like, whatever. The government's never going to talk about this kind of stuff. Like, this is just a blip on the radar. This is a flash in the pan. And it's just been nonstop, never ending. And we are absolutely in a season of acceleration right now. This year is, I talked about it on the very first episode of this year for Slingshot Nation, how I got it. It was a sense. I wouldn't say it was
Starting point is 00:19:27 prophetic word. It was just, there was a stirring in my belly that 2026 was going to be, as we went throughout the year, it's going to become more and more severe. And I just, I remember there was words I was saying, like, there's a rumbling, that there's something coming up. There's a rising coming. There's something coming from under the ground. And I was more symbolic with that, like, just like something that was hidden is coming through. And as we go through the year we're going to see more and more of that and certainly we have seen that since January. The fact that they they've been peddled to the metal on this stuff and some of the meetings that I've had that I've talked about on the show and other people's shows and stuff recently.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You know, I've been in, I've sat down in meetings with people who are very much in the know of what's going on and they're relaying information to me that only confirmed my suspicions. and the information they've they've they've laid out and stuff like literally I'm in a meeting and they said certain things like about about disclosure being accelerated and stuff and literally that day I walk out of the meeting and Obama saying aliens yeah they're real right I'll know if they're an area 50 or what was that thing area 51 oh yeah area 51 come on bro give me a break yeah that means to look at area 51 exactly exactly and then Trump's you know he shouldn't have said that.
Starting point is 00:20:56 That's classified information. You know, he didn't deny it. And so it was like that day after I came out of that first meeting. And just accelerated. They dropped the, before we got to that meeting, they had told me about July 8th. And then about a week later, everybody started talking about this mysterious July 8th, you know. And it's just a lot of stuff. There's a season of acceleration.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Trump is going to be coming out. with his commemorative, I can never say that word, commemorative coin. And supposedly, that's what I've been told, that it's going to be him and Malani, I believe, and there's going to be a UFO behind them. And, yeah. And so, like, as somebody who, you know, I think everybody in the world knows has a huge ego, he wants to be known as the everything president. And when it comes to UFO and disclosure, that's definitely on his agenda, too.
Starting point is 00:21:52 What were you going to say, Jack? I was going to say, do you think that they're possibly, my brain just lost everything because I was scattered. If you have that, if you remember, though. Yeah, feel free to jump back in. If I could say, like, I agree with you. I think when, like, a few years back, it was more interesting. Like, we wanted disclosure and as the fact, we wanted to see what the Roswell records were.
Starting point is 00:22:15 We want to see the truth of things. And now what they're doing is they're slowly leaking information. And you know they're just building a narrative against what the real truth is. And I think that's what's frustrating is like they're going to push out a truth. It will be truth. But it won't be the whole truth. It'll be some like sciop of truth so they can push another agenda through. And that's where I think I'm really getting frustrated with too.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Because like I just want the whole thing just like, you know, it's a dead fish. Just throw it on the table. And let's take a look at it. Right. And it's like, oh, here's this. This might be real. And this could be true. And it's like they keep dangling all this stuff for us.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And it's kind of annoying. A sciop of truth. I really like that. I really like that. That's very, very accurate as far as what we're dealing with. And I really believe that anybody who thinks that the information that's coming out is to be taken at face value. It's like, oh, that's what it is kind of thing. They haven't been around very long in these circles, which is a large portion of people, which is the target audience, right?
Starting point is 00:23:17 Or they're just greatly deceived. I mean, it's funny, it's just funny seeing the reaction of people who have been in these conspiratorial, I don't trust the narrative type circles when it comes to this. They're just like, oh, here we go. And it's like, here we go what, bro? Right. Like, here we go, what? Do we, do we lose our skeptical glasses?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Our skeptical spectacles? You know what I mean? Taking the bait, man. I do remember what I was going to say now. I know you would. Do you think that this disclosure stuff is prolonged because of the fact that they're releasing this Epstein stuff as well, that it came out? Like, aliens is less believable than human trafficking and all the stuff that was going on there. Do you think that that's possibly part of it?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, I definitely think it's part of it. I think that they're using this to cover up more severe things to discuss. And I think that they even mixed in, if I remember correctly, when they did the, deposition on Clinton. They mixed in, yeah, they did, Hillary, they mixed in the UFO topic. And they were muddying the waters with a lot of different questioning that was not on the agenda of the Epstein. And what do you know about Epstein? And so it's clearly this merger right now where they're trying to memory hold stuff and just muddy, muddy things up so that you don't know what's true and what's not. And that's what we see with AI video. That's what we see with AI picture.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I mean, like, I literally can create anything I want to do whatever I want, you know? And it's, we're in an era where you don't know what's true and what's not. We don't even know if the deposition, we saw the clips from from Hillary, was that really Hillary? Was that AI? We don't know. Now, I believe it was Hillary Clinton. But if you told me that that wasn't, I would be like, oh, you know, yep, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I mean, just yesterday alone, yesterday alone was April Fool's. And we'll actually going to, we'll transition into this clip here in a second. But yesterday it was April Fool's. You wake up knowing people are going to be playing jokes. Right. Before we even flew out of Dallas, I was had twice. It was 8.30 in the morning when the plane takes off and I was had twice. I was like, no way.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Michael Jordan's coming out of retirement or something like that. You know, like, it was just like so when you step back and like, oh, of course not. But like, like, I was just, I was had, you know? And so how much more can we be had when there's absolute intent behind hatting you, you know? Right. And so the government is definitely playing games and shenanigans. They're disclosing things. And from this is my perspective, they're disclosing things that are supernatural because they can't hide what's supernatural in the natural anymore. And so they're, they're, they're, they're, you're, they're creating and building their own filters to allow you to experience what is supernatural
Starting point is 00:26:23 through their filtering so that you don't have a full picture, a full story, or a full understanding of what's going on. And they're using many people and organizations to do this. And they're not all communicating with each other. They're not all on the same page. It is carefully pieced together script that you talk about elites, the elites that are. are daddies over the elites, no. It's, I mean, maybe 10 years from now, like the elites of the elites of elites of the elites, you know, but like it's this idea that there are people that are operating,
Starting point is 00:26:59 that we don't know who they are, but neither does Donald Trump, you know? It's just, it's wild. And the more you go into it, the more it becomes supernatural. I believe that they're controlling agendas, even in the astral. They're,
Starting point is 00:27:15 they're utilizing the, astral plane to achieve their means and manipulate the reality that we live in so that it's undetectable and untraceable. Well, it's kind of like I've always heard like the tenets of Satanism and witchcraft. They have to tell you what they're doing for the magic or whatever to be more powerful, right, to come into fruition. How convenient is it that they could themselves leak videos, you know, to disclose information or whatever, and then cover that up and say it's a, you know what I mean, or release a,
Starting point is 00:27:52 it's just, there's so much potential for them to be able to carry on their ritual and to work with these entities, whatever, we'll probably get into that, I'm sure. It just opens the door, man. Yeah. And I don't know what to believe, you know. Believe in Jesus. Yeah. That's the only solid rock that I have. That's the only solid rock that I stand on.
Starting point is 00:28:22 What's that song? Has that song go, Derek? Christ, the only rock, solid rock I stand. Christ, solid rock I stand. Yeah. What's the other ground is sinking sand? Yeah. That's an old hymn. I love hymns and I think hymns need to be brought back a little bit more than what they are. There's something pure about them. Anyways, so let's actually get into. the first video, Jack, of the Australian
Starting point is 00:28:48 Senator Babbitt, the video of him himself talking about this, if you could, if you will, please. Dead air, fill space. No, you're fine. There's two Babbitt, so I had to find the right one. Okay, here we go. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:29:09 breaking news. It's true. There are aliens living amongst us. There are aliens in Area 51. There are even alien human hybrids. I have been briefed this morning in a top secret intelligence briefing that exposes all. Unfortunately, I am forbidden from speaking about it under pain of death. But know this. I will fight for accountability and I will fight for transparency.
Starting point is 00:29:38 There is more to come. Stay tuned. So that right there was released on March 31st for us. but April Fool's Day first for them. And the way he presents himself, it really does seem tongue and cheek, right? Can we all agree on that? Right. So it, you know, and even in the comment underneath that video, he said something to the nature of,
Starting point is 00:30:00 was this April Fool's or was this, you know, controlled disclosure or whatever he had said, let me see if I can pull it up here real quick and just read it to you all. If I have it, do I have it? I do have it. Come on, Tony. You can do this. filling the air, filling the air, filling the air, filling the air. Aliens disclosure.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Alien's disclosure. There we go. I got him now. So he says, was it just an April Fool's Day joke or was it another sciop to throw you off the truth while we carry on with the alien slash human crossbreeding program you'll never know with an emoji face? Which is what you were just talking about, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like they can be like, oh, it was April Fool's.
Starting point is 00:30:41 But they're disclosing it. You know, they're completing their ritual. They're letting you in on it. You said ritual twice now. What do you mean by that? Could you expand on that at all? Well, really, man? I just feel like we've had a few people tell us that they believe this is demonic.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Right. People in high level government has said that they believe is demonic. So I would see it being not necessarily in negotiation. but a worship of these elites toward what they're calling aliens or demons or whatever. So, yeah, that would be their ritual. Maybe they have to do this in part of their practice, you know, to dangle the carrot, to get fear going, to get anxiety going, to keep confusion going. We know who the author of Confusion is, right?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Well, I think that. I think you're right and there is this effort to collectively usher in the so ushering let me say that the reverse there's an effort to usher in the collective consciousness of humanity into a certain direction with these things behind me and behind these guys as the subject of the attention and you know we can you know have arguments about what they actually are what's really going on kind of thing right but there is this collective effort to usher the consciousness of humanity in that direction. And that itself is witchcraft. And if you don't mind, if you don't mind, I will talk about what I talked about this week. Because one of the topics
Starting point is 00:32:27 we talked about on the counter this week for season two is witchcraft. And flying down there, Derek and I were discussing Derek Prince. He's not Derek Prince. He's Derek Alencia. And he's certainly not a prince. But yet. Yes. Well, interesting. In heaven, bro. Oh, yes. I like it. Okay. Okay. You leveled up there. I like that. So, but Derek Prince talks about the, the logistics of almost accidental witchcraft, but in this case it would be intentional. So like, there's God and God desires humans to have free will. So there's this bridging arc of free will being given to humanity. And then God's desire for that is so that the free will, that human, freely got is then redirected back to God in worship. And so there's this beautiful cycle that God has blessed us with with free will that in the perfect scenario of creation then gets mirrored back to him in a form of worship. And witchcraft is the disruption of what's the word I'm looking for, Derek,
Starting point is 00:33:38 is not rebellion. It is, there's rebellion. There's rebellion. This is a form of rebellion. Manipulation? Manipulation. Thank you. So the witchcraft is, there's a form of manipulation is witchcraft. And these elites are down to, you know, me inserting my will on Derek's life that is not the will that God has for him. It's me practicing witchcraft on Derek to manipulate the will that God has for his life and intervening on that and stopping that and redirecting it. That's witchcraft. And so when it comes to the elites and this whole, collective consciousness that we're moving humanity into, when that free will of worship is supposed to be going back to God,
Starting point is 00:34:23 and this disclosure narrative is filtering and redirecting that worship into a new direction, that is witchcraft. And so that goes into what you were talking about with the ritual. We are as a human species collectively in a mass ritual that's designed. is to redirect our worship from God to these things. Yeah. And so we are under a mass ritual, and we are underneath witchcraft. Not everybody will succumb to the witchcraft.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Not everybody will succumb to the ritual. But as a whole, that is the desire of these people hiding in the dark. Am I right or am I right? You sound right to me. Right answers. I love it. I like your explanation better than mine. Well, to be fair, to be fair, I'm fresh off of doing this whole study for this season
Starting point is 00:35:14 the season's episode. Like, like, I geared up for that five minute. I geared up just to hear Joseph say, that's good, Tony. Thank you, Joseph. Change the topic. No, but I agree. So in Derek Prince's book, it's control, it's intimidation, and it's manipulation. And those are the same tactics we see over and over again that the government's using. And in the end, it's full control. That's what they want from all of us is they're going to have full control over everything, our life, our finances, you know, our biometrics, like everything. It's leading towards full control so that we won't even have the option to even worship God anymore. Yeah. Before we go any further, Jack, just switched to camera to me and go out there and make sure to me just walk in here
Starting point is 00:36:01 and locked the door. I think I just heard the door to door now jiggle. And I just want to make sure. Yeah, so thanks for rigging that down, Derek. Derek Prince is somebody who, uh, has not been talked about a ton on this show, but moving forward as I learn more about what he taught, I'd like to incorporate that more because from what I understand, he is somebody who has a wealth, well, had a wealth of knowledge. And it needs to be honed in on more. Also, another person, especially when it comes to deliverance and spiritual existence, from what I understand, is R.T. Kendall. and I was just sent a book of his this morning, and I'm looking to dive into him more too.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I had never heard of him before. It was brought up on a phone the other day. And then they sent me the book, and I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. So really good stuff, guys. The senator puts that out. And so you can say it was tongue-in-cheek, or could it have been just a little tiny piece layer
Starting point is 00:37:03 of the sci-op that we're under or witchcraft or ritual that we're under? Yeah, absolutely. And then to add to that confusion, the next thing that comes out of his camp, the same day, is something that, if I remember correctly, does not have tongue and cheek implications to it. Derek, do you have that link available?
Starting point is 00:37:30 If not, I'll have Jack do it. Pull that link up, Jack, and if you could read what he wrote. Now, he's reposting a Matt Gates video, which is what we're going to get into next. here. But he writes his own little post above that repost on X. And what he says on the same day of his little tongue-in-cheek video, it strikes me as a little bit more of a serious tone, especially considering the fact that he's responding to a video that Matt Gates said. And maybe somebody can fact-check this. Derek, how about you fact-check this if you can?
Starting point is 00:38:04 find out when the video of Matt Gates talking about human hybrids dropped because I know it was this past week when we were running around. I don't know. But while you're doing that, Jack, if you could pull up that the ex post of the Australian Senator Babbitt and what he said about this alien human hybrid stuff. Do you want to play it? Or did you want to read that first? Don't play that. Just read what he said. You want me to read it? Yes, please. Oh, okay, okay. My bad. I wish I could say more, but unfortunately, everything I know about the alien hybrid program is classified. Let's just say some of you would be very surprised who's not entirely human.
Starting point is 00:38:50 That's all I'm authorized to disclose at this time. Yeah, so the way he said that, if you didn't have the context of his little goofy video from earlier, you would be like, oh wow, this is interesting, you know? Like, what does Australia know? But because he put out that goofy video from earlier, it really kind of makes you wonder, is he actually serious about this? Or is this just part of his, like,
Starting point is 00:39:15 tongue and cheek thing that he's doing today? How much are you going to play on that, all that stuff? What are your thoughts on that, Bo? Have you ever heard of super archaic DNA? No, please tell me. It sounds like something I want to know about. Well, supposedly it's DNA that's like 1.5 million years old or older, right? And it's in the human genome.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And they're saying that 2 to 19% of your DNA is unknown. And they're blaming it on a ghost population that's died out that didn't have a fossil record or not tied to a specific fossil record like Neanderthal or denosivans and stuff like that. But there is DNA within a certain amount of population. that they can't trace. Are they trying to pass it off as super archaic? You know, it belonged to this group, or is that this hybrid DNA? Yeah, which would beg to question, how long has this been happening, right? Since the time of the Nephilim, maybe.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah. It's interesting because when you think about the logistics of everything, and just, you know, for anybody watching for a first time, by the way, this is a huge live. Like, I just saw that we have 1,700 people watching live right now. Oh, wow. Awesome. I think that might be a record.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Thanks, please. Anybody who maybe is not familiar with this show that might be tuning in right now, we all at this table, and Jack does as well. We subscribe to the idea that there was a fall of man, but also a fall of angels, those angels, some of those angels, not all the angels did this, but some of the angels procreated with women. Their offspring were these Nephilim giants.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And when you look at the, and the book of Enoch goes more into that, and we give credit to a book of Enoch just as a not a canonical book, but a book that was referenced by those who wrote scripture like Jude. Therefore, it's like a commentary in my mind where you can look at it, understand that the writers of the New Testament looked at it as well, take it for what it is kind of thing. But in the book, I believe it's chapter, Enoch, chapter seven. It talks about the fallen angels teaching humans how to do things that we were not supposed to know how to do.
Starting point is 00:41:41 One of them, I believe, Azel taught humans how to create weaponry, swords. And when you think about the time frame of that, it's like, okay, if you got this human population that we're trying to corrupt and the ultimate goal is to separate them from God by, getting them to believe they are God themselves. We're going to start off with things that they can understand. So here's how you mix metals. This is how you create, you know, this stuff like swords. And then as we don't stop there but progress throughout time with them, we're going to teach them things and build upon their knowledge to the point that now they're doing hybrid things and creating in their mind a brand new creation. I don't believe that anything can be created out. side of God's will. Therefore, these things, even these human hybrids, though we can say they're a new
Starting point is 00:42:35 creation, they're only a new creation with material that God created. They're not creating brand new things. They're creating homunculus. They're combining things. And so you see this, this agenda at work throughout the ages. And if the DNA is there, it points all the way back to these times where they were mixing their DNA. It's really interesting. Go ahead, Derek. I need to go off for a minute. Please, go ahead. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So if we look at Genesis 315, we actually see the seed war initiated with the fall of Adam and Eve, which is just really important because we don't even need Enoch to make this viable. So, like, we see that Eve falls. She gets deceived to eat the fruit, right? And then God curses them and he goes, it'll be, the serpent will be at enmity, right, with her seed. It's like his seed versus her seed.
Starting point is 00:43:29 In the Hebrew, it's actually lineage. It could also be translated lineage. So, like, his lineage of beings and her lineage will be at enmity. They'll be at war. They'll be at a hatred to one another. And so even from Genesis 315, we see, like, we already see this weird thing where it's like, dude, so Lucifer, Satan, you know, the serpent. Like, he's going to have offspring. It's right there in 315 if you want to open your eyes to read it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 That's really, yeah. Yeah. So, like, we have that, even at the beginning of the creation of men. man with Adam that we already have these like hybrid things, whatever this is, you know. And then it goes right into like L.A. Marzuli's work with the elongated skulls. He went in and he did DNA research and he found that like these elongated skulls in Peru in the Paracus area where actually have mitochondrial DNA that traced back thousands of years to likely what he speculates is when Joshua was cleaning out the nephalum of Canaanite,
Starting point is 00:44:24 of Canaan. and they were all up in this one area near the Black Sea. And so that's where the genetic markers were. And this mitochondrial DNA wasn't even fully human. So that is like the male and versus the female DNA. So obviously you have like this patriarchal DNA that is passing along generationally. So like hybrids biblically has been around since the very beginning. That's good.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And you can tie in the giving of technology to two man. There's kind of like a hint of that in Genesis 4. with Jubil, Jable, and Tubal Kane. They're the sons of Lamek. Their sister's name was Nama, and it just so happens in the Zohar, like 500 years later. She's mentioned as one of the queens of demons that had, I guess, taken up with these fallen.
Starting point is 00:45:13 But in Genesis 419 to 22, it starts describing that Jubel was the father of those who dwell in tents. He's always a tentmaker. and have livestock. His brother's name was Jubal. He was the father of all those who play the lyre and harp. So it's music, right?
Starting point is 00:45:33 And then Tubal cane, and he's the forger of all implements of bronze and iron. So metal craft, you know, metalwork can come from that, which, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:41 makes you wonder, what did they get in exchange for this technology? But that, that kind of validates what you see in Enoch that they gave the technology because it was just born
Starting point is 00:45:52 right there. These guys were the father of that technology. tick. Where'd they get that tick? Right. A chapter after what he's talking about. Yeah. You got something to say, Jack?
Starting point is 00:46:04 No, your mic was just... Oh, okay. He's trying to work on the mic placement. But even with Eve, it's the same thing as, like, you know, she's tempted would eat the fruit of the wisdom, right? So it's sacred knowledge that he was tempting her with and what she falls into. And it's the same cycle, I think the governments and everything are under now. this promise of knowledge, this promise of secrets of the universe.
Starting point is 00:46:26 It's the same origin of sin that we've always dealt with. I don't want to get too far off on these tangents before we get to the next video here. So before we do Matt Gates, I want to do... Did you find the JD-Vant stuff, Jack? Cool. Let's start with JD-Vance because both... If I remember correctly, both people,
Starting point is 00:46:50 J.D. Vance and Matt Gates were on Benny Johnson's program saying pretty, I don't want to say radical, but like, they made waves and within a very short period of time, which skeptical lenses, you know, like you look at it, you're like, is this part of a Saob? Is this part of a planned agenda of releasing certain information, getting people to, to rattle their brains a little bit? You know, you got the vice president of the country saying what he said about these things and you have somebody else coming out saying something else that to an uneducated
Starting point is 00:47:23 normie mind on this stuff, we'd be like, well, that's very contradictory, which I would say absolutely not. They're not. But if we could go into the J.D. Vance Jack and let people see the clip from Benny Johnson's program of what he had to say, what he thinks these aliens are. I'm going to. Trust me. I'm obsessed with this. I've already had a couple of times where I'm like, all right, we're going to area 51. We're going out to New Mexico. We're going to sort of get to the bottom of this, and then the timing of the trip just didn't work out. But trust me, anybody who's curious about this, I'm more curious than anybody, and I've got three years of the very tippy top of the classification. I'm going to get to the bottom of it. Okay, so you haven't been to Area 51 yet.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Not yet. Some people say they keep the UFOs in Ohio. Yeah. Hangar 18. Hangar 18, right. I've heard that as well, but I don't know. I haven't looked into it yet. Okay. All right. All right. Well, we're waiting for it. We saw Aliens.com. We saw Aliens.gov. I don't think they're aliens. I don't think they're aliens. think they're demons anyway, but that's a longer discussion. Well, I can't let you go without a follow-up on that. Because Barack Obama is on this podcast, and he goes, yeah, aliens are real, but like, here's where they're not. And so Obama says, yes, aliens, he gets asked point.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Like, are aliens real? Oh, yeah. And he goes, but they're not at area 51. And, and where are they? Well, that's what he says. Right. There's a great question. Trump had to go save him and he said he's going to be classified.
Starting point is 00:48:44 So you think they're demons. Well, look, I think that celestial beings who fly around, who do weird things to people, I think that the desire to describe everything celestial, everything is otherworldly to describe it as aliens. I mean, every great world religion, including Christianity, the one that I believe in has understood that there are weird things out there. And there are things that are very difficult to explain. And I naturally go, when I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon. That's where I go to is the Christian understanding that, you know, there's a lot of good out there, but there's also some evil out there. And I think that
Starting point is 00:49:27 one of the devil's great tricks is to convince people he never existed. Some good, uh, repeated talking points throughout Christian culture, right? I, which is, I mean, I get it. It's true. But, um, I do get kind of tired of that quote. You know, the greatest trick that Satan has ever pulled is convincing us that he doesn't exist, you know? Right. I'm like, come. on. We got to get some better lines. But the idea here is that, one, he brings up Area 51 and the Obama stuff. And I think he briefly just glossed over the fact that he said he hadn't seen that or something. So I don't know when this was recorded. It might have been recorded right around that time and said to release later. But him saying that he believes that aliens are demons is,
Starting point is 00:50:16 is interesting. And is it a surprise, though? Do either one of you feel this is a surprise? Because, I mean, he says that he has spent a lot of time considering these things from a Christian perspective. And one of the things that he says is that nobody cares more and wants to look at it. Come on. There's a whole world out there that cares more than you, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I promise you. If you cared as much as you said, you just cared, you wouldn't be vice president. You'd be a podcaster. What are your thoughts on what he has to say here? I don't care who goes. It does surprise me that the vice president of the United States said that. Yeah. You know, one, it's a blessing to see someone proclaim Christianity from that position, right?
Starting point is 00:51:04 But for him especially to say that he believes that aliens are demons. That's rolling big dice, you know what I mean? So he has to have reason to believe that to the extent that he would say, say that, knowing that he's got an election coming up, you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's heavy for him, but he's not the only one that's saying it. You have Congresswoman Luna, who's on the Disclosure Project or whatever, she has said that. Birchett, the congressman from Tennessee here.
Starting point is 00:51:33 He's my local rep. Yeah. Amazing. He said that. He thinks that they're demons. So they know something that they're not just coming out and saying. But I think all it's going to do is give. us confirmation for what we already believe.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I've had guests on my show that have been abducted by aliens, right? Mid-abduction, they proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. They're back in their bed. So why would that happen? Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I know some people can brush that off as anecdotal evidence or a nightmare, but I don't
Starting point is 00:52:10 think so. I think this is just, is that. It's what's funny is that people who would say that. I'm not saying everybody, but I'm saying the general type of person who would brush that off gives a lot of credit to DMT experiences. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so, and those DMT experiences, apparently it's coming out now that if you do a certain amount of DMT, eventually these entities are kicking people out. And when they get kicked out of whatever this thing that they're going into is, they're coming out completely sober. So this one lab was doing DMT experiments with humans, and I'm assuming it wasn't in the
Starting point is 00:52:51 country, I'm not sure, but they have like basically an IV hooked up to the person, and they're on a prolonged DMT trip. And these people are being kicked out by these entities on the drip, and they come through completely sober, and they're like, I got kicked out. I'm not allowed to go back. And they lose the ability to access that realm. And so I don't know how true that is, but I've seen, I mean, it's on Instagram. It has to be true. So, but it's, I've seen a couple people talk about that on Instagram. So very interesting, very interesting. Go to Derek. So for me, I just, I'm maybe I'm a little more cynical. But, you know, like, if you look at like, I'm going to call him Kanye because I obviously don't say it right. But let me just say, yesterday, Kanye West came out with a new music video. Oh boy. And, you know, he goes. goes by yay. And Derek several times said ye. And I was like, well, Derek, you tried. I'm old. I'm sorry. But even like with Kanye, like he was a Christian for a while. And I think that was really maybe just a plant to see how much they could really like move people in the Christian sphere.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Because we don't really check like theology. We don't check like the depths of like, you know, like the Nicene Creed or like things that would make them, you know, fundamentally Christian. And with J.D. Vance, my antennas are up a little bit. I think he's just a ploy to gather people that aren't going to really check him and then pull he's going to be able to pull that sphere of Christianity over at the right time because he's like, oh, I call them demons too, right? Yeah, we're buddies, right? And so it's like a ploy to start manipulating this, because to me, it is all about breaking down the theology of the church over time. And they need people that people will trust that say they're Christians, they say the right things. But all of a sudden, when rubber meets the road, when these things start showing up,
Starting point is 00:54:41 I'd be like, well, yeah, they're demons, but, and then they'll have a different explanation. That's non-biblical. And they have the trust of the people. Yes, yes. So, like, I would say potential is the word that I land on. There's a potential of a ploy. There's a potential of a slide of hand
Starting point is 00:54:58 when it comes to all these politicians. Absolutely. And people are far too quick to put their utmost support and trust. behind a politician. And it's the culture that we live in and the world that we come from. But Christians specifically, I'm talking to Christians specifically. The people who are not Christians, this does not apply to.
Starting point is 00:55:25 But Christians specifically need to enter into every situation when it comes to this stuff, reminding themselves, not just, oh, I know, remind yourself things that you already. know the truths of Christ and remind yourself that your loyalty is in Christ. Remind yourself that he is the one that you trust, not Donald Trump, not J.D. Vance, not any of these other politicians. Remind yourself the truth of Scripture because we're, we are absolutely in a day and age where you must remind yourself in order to actually sustain deception. Because deception is coming, baby and it's coming hard. And so if you're going to survive this season spiritually, you must remind yourself who you are in Christ. Because there is a deception coming that even as you
Starting point is 00:56:17 remind yourself who you are in Christ, you're going to wake up some days confused as to what you just heard the day before. Even the elect. That's what discernment is so important and testing the spirits, right? Absolutely. Take time, pray on it, seek the Lord about it. And, uh, Yeah. Yeah. You could be careful. What was that? Testing the Spirits. Is that 1st John 4, I believe? Anybody, nobody knows. I'm just throwing it out there on you. Yeah, he called me out. But people in the chat, let us know the scripture vert. Derek, don't look it up. Let them look it up. Let us know in the chat what the scripture is for testing the spirits. I believe it's First John chapter 4, but I might be wrong. It might be First John 1 4. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I think there's a first, and I think there's a John, and I think there's a 4 somewhere. So gospel. If they can't find it, they'll be reading their Bible. You know what's really funny is that I'm learning, and I'm going to be changing this, by the way, I'm going to fix my brain. But the way my brain works right now is I think I remember numbers better than I remember words. And so I have a hard time remembering what specifically it says, like as far as like reciting a scripture verse. But the numbers pop out in my head. And I, and how often do I do that with show episodes?
Starting point is 00:57:32 where I'm like, oh, that was episode 72. And it's like, how did you freaking do that? I don't know. It's the number, the number. I don't remember the name of the show, though. So anyways, that's kind of like where we're heading in the age of deception. And so you have J.D. Vance who is talking about aliens and his perspective being demons and the whole psychological world, this whole psychological world of warfare attached to that.
Starting point is 00:58:02 And then you have former congressman Matt Gates, who had initially, if I remember correctly, been nominated to be Secretary of State before he was rejected by the Congress. But Trump originally wanted him to be Secretary of State and not Rubio. I think that's who was. And so, like, he's no longer Congressman because he stepped away from his position because he thought he was going to be Secretary of State. Now he's just homeless underneath a bridge somewhere talking about. human hybrids.
Starting point is 00:58:33 No, I'm just kidding. He's not homeless. I'm sure he's doing quite well for himself. They all are always forever. Because it's a big club and you ain't it. So let's get into the Matt Gates clip of what he said on Benny Johnson's show, if you could, Jack. Okay, which clip would you like?
Starting point is 00:58:51 The one that we read with Senator Babbitt? That's fine. Just the video. I need the video of Gates talking, whichever one you have available. And if anybody's watching right now, before you hit play on Denny's, Jack, if anybody's watching right now, bring me back up real quick, Jack, if you could. If anybody's watching on YouTube right now, I have a road microphone clip to my shirt. I just saw the lights were blinking, and I could see, I could imagine some conspiracy theory saying
Starting point is 00:59:15 that I'm a robot and I need a battery change. Especially after the robot episode that Sean Ryan just came out with. Oh, I haven't even watched it yet. Don't spoil it for me. But I am not a robot. This is just a wireless microphone because we're trying to be more proactive in creating BTS footage, behind the scenes footage. And today we put out some stuff on our Instagram. Go ahead and follow us on the Confessionals Podcast, Instagram. Jack, if you could bring Gates back up and get us, get us into this.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I think the most important information will be the biologics that are not human that have been discovered. And like, even some of the briefings that aren't classified just need to be out in the public. I mean, I had someone come and briefed me who was in a military uniform, worked for the United States Army that was briefing me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some hybrid race that could engage in intergalactic communication. An actual uniform member of the United States Army briefed me on that.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Non-human biologics, interracial alien mating. What the F is going. Look, wait a second, you had whistleblowers tell you this kind of thing. Can you please? Yeah, I had a guy who was uniform. He was a senior enlisted with the United States Army, came into my office in Cresby, Florida in a non-classified setting. I had members of my staff there. And what they explained is that the military ran a very secret program where aliens that were living were enforced breeding programs with humans that had been abducted. from war zones and from even the caravans of migrants. Now, again, I didn't verify this, but what the whistleblower was telling me
Starting point is 01:01:10 is that there were like between six and 12 locations around the country where this happened. And what he wanted was a group members of Congress to all show up at the same time at all of these different locations so that any of those activities could not be moved. And of course, it's a physical impossibility to get members of Congress to simultaneously show up at like eight locations at one time. And so that never occurred. What do you mean non-human biologics? Well, that was the testimony of David Grush before the House Oversight Committee, which I joined. And the testimony was that in crashes of craft that had been recovered by the CIA and through a special program that the CIA had for crash recovery,
Starting point is 01:01:59 that it wasn't just, you know, the hard materials. It was also biologics, but that they couldn't identify a human source of those biologics. So a couple of things there. One, he self-admitted there that he had not been able to verify the claims. Okay. And, Bo, you were, you're former military, right? Your Army? Air Force.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Air Force? Yeah. I'm interested in just your perspective, not that you have the answer to this. But one, before I go there, when you listen to that, it does give you like this, this unclassified setting, have not verified. But this is what I was told, kind of like seating information, right? Yeah. And I'm not saying he's lying. but I'm also suggesting that maybe the people that he talked to were seeding information to him
Starting point is 01:03:01 and finally that that action of seeding the information has come home to roost. And it's like finally he has said it publicly. That's what the mission was. And they see these things all over the place. Honestly, the one thing he said about the senators not being able to go to, you know, was it eight locations at one time? Logistically impossible. Like it's logistically impossible for them to do anything.
Starting point is 01:03:22 You know, like, like, they, like, I mean, they're, we just ask them to show up to vote on a budget. And they're like, well, we're just going to shut it down. And it's like, I, they're all, I'm telling you, I am so, like, out on these boneheads that are in Washington. Um, I got to be careful what I say, because I'm we going to Washington later this year. So they might send a little black vehicle or a large black vehicle to pick me up and I'll need that. But, Bo, when it comes to your experience in the military and how he described the person, that was relaying this information to him. To me, as somebody who's not former military,
Starting point is 01:04:01 it seems like I think he described the person as like a high-level Army or something like that. But like, I don't know, would Army have that kind of information to relay to him? I don't know. What are your thoughts on just everything they said, I guess? Yeah, it would depend on, you know, there would be people in the Army with information.
Starting point is 01:04:22 You know, it depends. the job build, you know, if he's intel or whatever or counterterrorism or whatever his job is, he would have insight to a certain extent. Everything's compartmentalized, though, so he wouldn't know everything about anything. You know what I mean? Any debrief that I was ever in, I was a knuckle buster, you know, I worked sheet metal work. So I didn't get cool administrative secrets like that. But every meeting we had, every debrief we had, every debrief we had, was either classified or secret because of the aircraft that we worked on. But yeah, it would be a really gutsy move for, he said, that's a major general.
Starting point is 01:05:06 It's like a two-star. That would be a major move for them to come out and say something so profound. Like I mentioned earlier, my father, he worked for the NSA while he was in the Air Force. He was Intel. and he was told on to talk about things. And so he didn't. You know, he would go home and how was your day? Fine.
Starting point is 01:05:30 And he lived that for probably 30 years after he got out before he started talking. But he had told me in the 90s, so I guess 20 years he waited, he told me in the 90s about UFOs being recovered and bodies being on it. So the non-human biologics, I believe that 100%. 100%. And I do too. I have a perspective behind it that maybe these people giving us information wouldn't, right? Right. But it does feel like at times that they're just scraping the internet, podcasts,
Starting point is 01:06:10 finding what fits their narrative and distributing that information. It's what it feels like. Yeah. But maybe you live in this world. long like we have, it's like, wow, they're actually talking about things that we've talked about for such a long time. And they're finally coming out saying, yeah, it's not fake, you know. So now it's not true. Yeah. Well, yeah, I know. I can't go there because of the people that I've talked to, right?
Starting point is 01:06:30 So, I mean, like Karen Wilkinson, I think you've talked to her. Yeah. She's one of them that talks about she was involved in this. Like she was abducted. She had hybrid offspring, the whole nine. And so I believe her. I do. I believe her. And, uh, And so it's just kind of wild. Again, kind of going back to what we talked about in the beginning. It's like, we're really living in a time where they're actually talking about this. It's kind of wild. Do you have any thoughts there?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Well, it's just really wild how compartmentalize it all seems to be. Like we're talking about NSA. We're talking about CIA. We're talking about Air Force Army. Like, they all have a little piece of something that they're doing. And I don't think they're really talking to each other except the very, very ups. And so, like, they're working all these systems. And it's really interesting how it's all.
Starting point is 01:07:17 a little bit everywhere so that no one has the full truth. And of course, that's just how they're going to operate that thing. But if you think about what he said, which is really crazy, right, is like, we understand that, like, aliens were going and abducting women and doing, like, birthing stuff and this hybrid organization. He's stating that these entities are under the purview of the government, and the government is involved directly over citing this program of hybridization. And they're doing the trafficking.
Starting point is 01:07:45 And they're doing the trafficking. Yeah. So, like, these human women that are in. involved are completely being trafficked and being, you know, celestial bombed by these entities, you know, with human women that are most likely unwilling. I mean, I don't think people join the Air Force to be pregnant by aliens. Right. You know, so, like, what he's saying is, like, like, if you break it down, the government is in
Starting point is 01:08:09 control of all this. Yes. The government is oversighting all this. They are putting their thumbs up and approving these breeding programs. like it is wild. When you talk about people's encounters and they say during their abduction, they were being operated on, probes, you know, sampled, whatever, they were being worked on by some kind of ET entity
Starting point is 01:08:33 and in the same room we're humans overseeing. Right. That's a common thing. And what you're suggesting fits that depiction of what we have seen before. The idea and the idea of, again, human trafficking, intertwining with UFO disclosure and all this stuff, it's becoming more and more real. I think with Michael Herrera talked about seeing humans being loaded onto either crates that went on a craft or onto a craft. But I've talked to people, and Michael Herrera is a whistleblower, but I've also talked to people who have seen such things.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Shelly, J.R. and Shelly, they were here. And Shelly told me that, you know, when she was a little girl, she lived in a house where they were very poor. And during the wintertime, to stay warm, they would stuff, she would stuff like a shirt or a scarf into a hole in the wall so the air wouldn't come through because there was a porthole in her bedroom wall. And one night that whatever it was fell out. And she got up and she went to go put it back in and she could see through the hole in the wall. And she could see through the hole in the wall. wall. There was a UFO out in the field behind her home, and there were people walking onto the craft. Trafficking. So there's a real trafficking angle to this UFO stuff that is, one, it's being overlooked, but also trafficking is getting muddied by UFO when it's actually intertwined with UFO, you know? When they, when they kidnap these women and children, there's different things they use them for. So if they're pretty, they'll put them in pornography. If they're not, but they have psychic abilities,
Starting point is 01:10:23 they'll use them for psionics and this kind of stuff. If they're neither, some of them get dispatched and use for organ harvesting. This is stuff that is happening. It's just not theory. This is actually happening in this world today. It's been happening, and it continues to happen. And there's shameless plug.
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Starting point is 01:11:35 who are being trafficked, what they see. The people who are being traffic often describe the very same entity worldwide. They're having interactions with things that are appearing everywhere. Some of the abuses that these children are being trafficked with, the idea of beating them to submission and stuff is almost like an old tactic now. Now these kids are saying that when they're kidnapped and they're being trafficked, every room in the house that they're in, it has pornography playing because it manipulates their mind. And it also, at the same time, it manipulates their mind, distorts their reality. It is actively inviting demonic entities into their presence. This is a
Starting point is 01:12:15 a demonic thing. Trafficking 100% demonic. Oh, yeah. And it being tied to this stuff starts painting the picture of what's really going on here. Can I pivot with a question really? Please. Like, what are these hybrids and what are they for? Like, have we thought about this?
Starting point is 01:12:32 Like, what is the great agenda for the government to be involved in creating a hybrid species? Like, if the aliens you hear, let them come out and be amongst us, right? but like what is the purpose of having a hybrid human slash unknown entity amongst us, walking amongst us? Like I just am curious what you guys would think what the purpose of an entity like that would be for. I think it's shells. That's where I think there's multiple purposes. I think there's multiple theories and reasoning. But I always, my first gut reaction is I think that they're creating shells.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Joel would say meat suits. for entities to inhabit. And the idea, I forget how you phrase it, but why would man government do such things? I don't think Donald Trump's doing it. I don't think Congress is doing it. I think these are people high up in government in the shadows that don't get elected.
Starting point is 01:13:35 And these people, I believe, have entered into a covenantial agreement with fallen entities, fallen angels. And whether they like it or not, not only are they bound to it, but their lineage is bound to it. And I think that when if one of these elites, which is probably going to be very hard to do to begin with, grows a conscience and does not, they're like, I can't do this because they've all suffered abuses of themselves. They have been manipulated and brainwashed from birth to be this in this position. This is not something that they got picked up on the street corner and said, hey, would you like to be a world. elite and traffic humans, this is something that this is the only reality they've ever known.
Starting point is 01:14:19 If they grew a conscience. A lot of these people have been abused in ways where, you know, Jesus Christ, a depiction of Christ was their abuser growing up so that the idea of turning to Christ is almost an impossibility. So if they grow up a moral conscience and they want to get out, they not only have to consider the fact that in a fallen angel covenant, how serious that is as far as a contractual standpoint from a fallen angel's perspective
Starting point is 01:14:57 and how that's going to be in certain death, absolute certain death for you, it also probably means certain death for your loved ones, your family, your children. And I think these kind of things are what keeps that wheel going. First of all, create an environment where it's next to impossible for that to even be considered.
Starting point is 01:15:16 And then for the one that is like possibly considering it and goes undetected, you have all these other repercussions in place. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's too deep. I don't know. Yeah, it's a
Starting point is 01:15:33 it's gut-wrenching to know that our government's behind stuff like that. Yeah. We already know that government, they allow child pornography, they say, to catch predators and stuff like that. But for what he's saying, that it just cuts you to the bone, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:54 I'm over here. I'm trying to listen, but my heart's just breaking for these people that are stuck in these situations. Makes you want to go kick down doors. It does. Really, really bad. Yeah. It really, really does, man.
Starting point is 01:16:09 But yeah, the why? the why of the hybridization um like you said shells or vessels whatever however you want to call them that would make sense vessels for what you know um demons uh that's that's what they want right that's why they possess people now they want to be in a body and so they would have less of a fight um more of a claim maybe um maybe it's for some kind of middle military tactics, you know, making, you know, the ape soldiers that they talked about with Russia so long ago. Who knows? I guess that part's open to speculation. It's a lot. It's funny because I think it actually, like what you're saying, Bo, just kind of, it's like hitting on all of those things.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Because I think, I actually agree. I think it could be every one of those things. Nephilim spirits inhabit these, you know, hybrid beings, these meat suits. and you could also have it for the fact that they now would have control if it's literally just a hybrid of something that they created without having a spirit inhabit it. Like there could be a whole bunch of these things. And actually, honestly, some of the live comments have been really good about that saying specifically for control, Nephilim spirits. And Larry talks about the final flood, the days of Noah, right? Who's Larry? Larry Ragland.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Oh. I want his full name out there. Yeah. Yeah, Larry Raglan, I mean, talking about the days of Noah and the final flood, and you talk about what was going on in the days of Noah. It's the Nephlem spirits, and that's hybrid humans, you know, so it could go straight into all of that. So anyway. Could I throw a theory out you real quick, but I was thinking about, like, because we know that when you're talking about, like, how they take children and break them up into groups, like one aspect, the initial group they're looking for are kids with psychic ability. They call them psionics.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Yeah. And so I wonder if what they're trying to do is to try to create a bridge with these hybrids, with these super special abilities so that when these true alien entities, whatever, they want to call them, show up, these hybrids will basically look like us, but then have the ability to work and manipulate just like their fathers. And so that have that ability. So when they're doing rituals and we're doing things like that, that psionic abilities will be so powerful because, the hybrids will be amongst us that it'll create more spiritual energy for them to do the things they want to really do, which is pretty much open up the gates of hell. Stranger things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Yeah, definitely strangeer things. And it's just you want to believe that there will be a leveling to reality. But what we're painting right now as far as a picture moving forward is there's not going to be a leveling of reality. Common word we're using today, or I'm using, there's going to be an acceleration. We're hitting that 10% curve, the hockey stick curve. on the graph, you know. Exponential. The exponential growth.
Starting point is 01:19:15 We're now getting ready to just spike. And I think that's because though nobody knows the day nor the hour, you can read the times and the signs of the times. And not only can you, but so can the enemy. And I think that they know things are gearing up. And so it's a full court press. Because you talk about kingdom of darkness.
Starting point is 01:19:40 you talk about the Lord's kingdom, talk about the revelation war in heaven where a third of the angels fell. You just take that numerically. The kingdom of darkness has a much smaller army. And so if the kingdom of darkness does want to combat for a final battle, which all signs say in prophecy,
Starting point is 01:20:06 that's what they're planning. They're not dumb. they were already defeated once and they're under manned. So how do they get around that? Is it to create hybrid creations for that final battle that have supernatural capabilities? So like let's multiply ourselves through biological matter and material
Starting point is 01:20:28 that we don't really have a connection to? Imagine if you have an exoskeleton suit as a soldier that is just so bad. It's just, it's so, like, you can get shot at. Nothing happens to you, but if that thing breaks, you can just go back to the bunker, get another one, put it on and go. What if that's what's being created? And so the biological meat suit, whatever you want to call it, it breaks down, it gets destroyed. The entity inhabiting it just goes back to Area 51, grabs the next one that they grew, and goes back out. And so, that they have this weird army that they're building. Not to mention the human agent perspective of it,
Starting point is 01:21:19 the fact that the deception that's coming will allow room for the human agent to naively operate for the wrong team. There's a lot of the things that play into this. Right. And so they call it an alien human hybrid because alien is something you could digest as a normal person, somebody who is not coming from a supernatural perspective. Alien is the thing that they're talking consistently about being disclosed and you have these space brothers, all these people, all these movies, everything that Hollywood has done over the past, however many years to make it so that you think alien, you understand it's outside of this world. And so now there's this inside this world, this terrestrial, and now this extraterrestrial thing merging. But if you say Nephlem or you say Nephlem spirit or
Starting point is 01:22:05 that's ridiculous. Exactly. So, yeah, they say alien. to allow you to understand. Yeah. Well, and, you know, I think what you were going with that wasn't that, that's ridiculous, but it actually gives a nod to what's going on. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:22:16 That, that's, like, and that's the, that's the, the crafty, psychological redirecting that they're trying to play right now, which is, like,
Starting point is 01:22:24 even down to the disclosure, like, why haven't the UFO files dropped? Well, it's because the truth of it is, it's going to really strongly affect the religious people, i.e., the Christians, and we're trying to protect them
Starting point is 01:22:37 from this information. So we have to figure out how we're going to release it so that nobody's going to lose their faith. First of all, you ain't going to lose real Christian faith. And that's the thing that we don't, like, the very, the very object that's standing in their way is so publicly they're spinning that very thing that's standing in their way as the victim of potential disclosure so that the world who is not part of that object, religion, looks at us and looks at us not as a victim, but as the problem. So that when all this happens, it's persecution time. Human Christians are preventing man as a whole from ascending to the next level of our evolution. Which could tie in, J.D. Vance, and these people say that they believe it's demons,
Starting point is 01:23:33 because then they will just look like crazy Christians trying to demonize those that are trying to help us. right absolutely it's it it's this layered psychological war game and uh and i've just i guess i've just gotten more comfortable with the fact that i'm going to say things that maybe people don't understand i don't understand i relay it wrong or that that just people say is absolutely crazy i'm okay with it like i'm i'm i'm really not here to win people's approval uh i'm just here to to say it how i see it i mean i'm not i'm not like this you know o g head in the space. I've been doing this for 30, 40 years. I'm not that guy. I was a truck driver who started a podcast 10 years ago underneath the instruction of the Holy Spirit. And here we are a decade
Starting point is 01:24:17 year, a decade later. And we're finding out that that direction was because of such of a time as this. And even though, even in the moments that I felt like I was being, I wasn't doing things perfectly and I wasn't doing things the way that maybe God wanted me to do it. But I felt like I lacked instruction from him. That was my instruction. My instruction. My instruction, was to stumble through this stuff and learn from people's experiences of the darkness, people who embrace the darkness and tried converting me to it. I've had that plenty over the years. It all comes to this because now I have a perspective on this stuff that is built off of my own experiences and other people's experiences and I'm not very easily shaken on it.
Starting point is 01:25:04 and my old and I've said it before and I will say it again and I'll say it next week and a week after that the ultimate thing is you have to stay loyal to Christ that's it they're they like read the tea leaves read between the lines as this gets rolled out more and more you will see a narrative unfolding that is anti-christ and in those moments you need to recognize it be aware of it and go the opposite direction. Amen. So Matt Gates says this. And there's also this like weird side thing going on with this disclosure stuff that it's
Starting point is 01:25:48 being talked about, but I don't think it's being talked about a ton to the point that I forgot about until you brought it up before we went live there. And why don't you lay the groundwork about these missing people first? and we'll go from there. But there are people going missing that are tied to this disclosure stuff and it's starting to get, it's starting to get a little eerie.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Yeah, so most recently is retired Major General Neil McCasteland. He's not just any general. He oversaw the Air Force's $2.2 billion science and technology program at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was considered one of the military's
Starting point is 01:26:30 lead experts on UFOs and was named in 2016, WikiLeaks emails as an advisor to Tom DeLong when DeLong was building the UFO disclosure organization to the Stars Academy. So here's this guy he has all this knowledge, right? So here's the story on February 27th, which was not far like just a month ago. He walked out of his home in New Mexico and vanished without a trace. He left behind his phone, his wearable devices, and his prescription glasses.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Clothing was found near his home. He has not been seen since. Whoa. Pause. Just pause. Read that description again. Those last few sentences of he left his house with what, what happened? He left behind his phone. He left his house and left behind his phone at his house. His wearable devices, like his watch and stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:13 And his prescription glasses. And then what they find? Clothing was found near his home. That was his? Yeah. That's okay. He changed clothes. That's, well, that's, that's missing 401.
Starting point is 01:27:26 That's missing 401. So just, just hear me out. And I want you to go your direction too. but, and I'm not trying to turn this into a Bigfoot conversation. You know what I mean? Because I'm not saying that at all, but there are people who think when they hear this before one, they think Bigfoot.
Starting point is 01:27:43 What you just laid out is often described from David Pilates. The clothing are folded. I'd be interested to know if the clothing was folded. It's like a mile away they found. A mile away. But that sounds extremely similar to what happened locally here in Maribel back in 2014. There was a local man here who lived in Marival
Starting point is 01:28:06 had a property up on the mountain like a farm and he went up there, I think, to mow. He pulls his truck with the trailer into the property. He leaves his wallet, his phone, his keys in the truck, his gun in the truck. He gets on a side by side. And the last person that saw him was a person that lives down the road.
Starting point is 01:28:23 He waved at them as he drove off, never to be seen again. Was he German? I don't know. He, they found his, his four-wheeler, key in the on position, completely out of gas like he was just taken.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Wow. And so it just sounds very, very similar. And I believe there is a connection to these wild, deserted places where humans don't roam and the connection to these people missing. Go ahead, what were you going to say? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:57 The connection with David Pilates, excuse me. I can see that where you're coming from. But it sounds like this. He left his prescription in glasses. More than likely he has on contacts. You know, change his look a little bit. Left his clothes a mile away, change clothes.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Left his wearable devices, you're not going to track him. He's probably going somewhere to pay with cash to talk to somebody. Interesting. That'll be my first thought. Interesting. See, that's a very good. natural logical thought. So never do that again here. I wasn't going to do this right now, but I will because we're on, we're on this specific case. I got a contact, let's just put it
Starting point is 01:29:49 that way. And I was made aware of some information regarding this specific person. and I got to frame this carefully because I don't want to give away this person's identity to superiors but there was a team there's been teams of people searching for this man
Starting point is 01:30:18 what's his name again? Pull it up General Neil McCastland McHastland there's been teams of people searching and I'm aware of at least one team who has had side effects that require
Starting point is 01:30:37 psychological evaluations due to the experiences had scouring the desert taking element readings and people connected to the situation said that there's a full story and that is demonic
Starting point is 01:31:03 and so I don't have a ton of information on that, outside of that. But it comes from, I wouldn't say a 100% reliable source, but a reliable source. Somebody that I trust, and I would have no reason to believe
Starting point is 01:31:26 that they're making things up in line to me. They didn't know what I was going to be talking about today. Right. Contacted me today. So I see your rational thought, and I raise you. there's other people that have gone missing though right Derek yeah so there's actually reported a few people let's see aerospace engineer
Starting point is 01:31:49 monica Juanita Riza she was a co-invender of a rocket alloy her cases remains unsolved she was part of the NASA's jet propulsion laboratory there's Nuno Larelo I'm sorry I'm butchering these names. Director of Plasma Science and Fusion Center at MIT was assassinated in his home
Starting point is 01:32:11 in Massachusetts in 2025. In December 15th of 2025, Carl Grimmar, 67, Caltech astrophysicists who were contributed to discovery of water and distant planets. He was shot and killed in front of his porch at six in the morning on February 16th, 2026. So like if he's in a sphere where he sees these like people in his sphere all of a sudden like going missing, you know, like getting shot, things like this, it would make sense if he wants to go on the run because he might be a target. He might
Starting point is 01:32:42 feel like he's a target and he's on the run. Yeah. That makes sense. But I stick with my demonic angle. Well, no, that area is crazy. It's right around near Roswell. I mean, his backyard is his mountains. I forgot the names of the mountains are. I'm sure they're like super spiritually charged.
Starting point is 01:33:00 We were just covering New Mexico, what, like a week or two ago, like that whole angle of the 33rd parallel all throughout that area, how it's like so supercharged. Spiritually, that's where the telescope is out in that area, the Lucifer telescope. Like it all keeps tying in together with like,
Starting point is 01:33:18 again, like the terrain, the terrestrial aspect coinciding with these entities is very strong. What if, what if these people, some of these people at least, what if there's attempts to be, like, subject, they're the subject of an abduction to be taken
Starting point is 01:33:39 so that their expertise can be used in a very highly classified area. And the people who are shot and killed are people who... Refuse to cooperate. Not refuse to cooperate. I think you don't have a say in the matter, but maybe could it be that something goes sideways and it's just kill them and move on. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Like, we're openly thinking, speculating. Say you're down, like, what our back screen is. How was your workday today? It's like, oh, well, this one entity showed up that I shouldn't have seen, and the next day you're gone. Right. You know what I mean? And that's the level of classified they work in.
Starting point is 01:34:17 So it's like, if they had a bad work day, like, dude, they could just be toast. That's wild. That's wild. That's wild if they had a bad work day, they could be toast. Wow. Wow. So one thing I wanted to kind of bring up with the fact of where he went missing, We have talked about on the show, you know, over the years, the idea of deserts and desert portal
Starting point is 01:34:37 death coal and, you know, people going missing in deserts. One story, a guy contacted me, and he sent me news articles or videos. I can't remember now. I think it was a news video of his disappearance. Like, he went missing. The news covered it. And then he reappeared where they already searched. And when they asked him where he was, they're like, he's like, I was here, but I wasn't here. And it happened in Joshua Tree at the same place where another guy said he saw supernatural things unfold, James from the show. I mean, the portal opened up in the sky and a lot of demonic, satanic cult stuff happening that night. And so there's a lot of weird things that happened in the deserts. But the deserts and the wilderness are places typically where humans don't roam.
Starting point is 01:35:24 It's not the populated area. And it's just interesting. We were talking about. We were talking about Isaiah early before we started going live. And it's interesting how in the book of Isaiah, talking about the, let's see, I'm trying to pull it up here, Eidom, is that right? Is that right? Yeah, Eidom. The judgment of Eidom, maybe I should just pull it up here if I can.
Starting point is 01:35:56 So talking about the judgment of Eidom, this judgment on Edom will never end. The smoke of its burning will rise forever. The land will lie deserted from generation to generation. No one will live there anymore. Just that idea of a land being deserted. And then in verse 14, it talks about what comes into that deserted land. And you were talking about how you've done deep dives on the Isaiah 34 part, right, with the Lilith and stuff. Yeah. But what do you think that, because in my looking into this, this scripture specifically, when it talks about, in some translations, it has different words, but the idea of goats, wild goats, when you, when you look at the, first of all, the new, the King James version of that, it says Seder.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Right. Which is interesting. I thought Saders weren't real, right? And what's a Sater? It's basically a goat demon. And then you got Leviticus talking about goat. demons. And Leviticus 177 says, so they shall no more sacrifice, their sacrifices to goat demons after whom they whore. And so like this idea of goat demons being a very real thing. And then in Isaiah, in the King James version, it says Sater. And the Hebrew word sayer, sayer has a, I don't have my notes up here from the other day completely. So I can't remember exactly. what it translates as, but there is this option to consider it as a goat demon or an entity. And so humans evacuate wild beasts and entities come in and dwell there.
Starting point is 01:37:55 And that's Isaiah 34, but then in Isaiah 13, it also talks about inhabiting ruins after judgment, just the idea of structures being inhabited. And you take that idea and how many times do we hear people talk about having encounters with things that shouldn't exist out in the woods, away from people, out in deserts, away from people in haunted homes, abandoned places. And then you got, we talked about the idea of the dead spirits of the Nephilim, right? By Howard, the Nephilim destroyed by flood. So they run to where?
Starting point is 01:38:32 Deserts. Jesus himself. That's where I was going to go. I had it up here and then I decided to pull away. But Matthew chapter 12, verse 43, when an evil, and this is also in Luke too, by the way, when an evil spirit leaves a person, it goes into the desert, seeking rest, but finding none. And I'm drawing a blank. The guy we met at NRB, the pastor, don't glaze him.
Starting point is 01:39:00 over on me, Derr's. Hibs, Jack Hibbs. Derek Hibs. Derek's eyes are like glassing over. Well, we met like 200 people. So that guy we met. You should just know. But Jack Hibbs had an interesting point.
Starting point is 01:39:15 He said, you know, that foundation I just laid, he said, and you know, you see him Mark 4 the encounter with Legion. And they're like, please don't, don't send us into the abyss. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Don't send us to the abyss. this. So he says, okay, wise guys, go into the pigs. They go into the pigs and where does he drive them off the cliff into the water. The very thing that they didn't want to be in. That's why they dwell in the desert. And so it's this interesting correlation to scripture where we know the pattern in scripture is that entities roam deserted places, deserts, wild places. And now we're having this like this one person going missing in the desert. And it just makes you want to. It just makes you wonder, is there a supernatural correlation? And that itself is just like, okay, you know, whatever, whatever. But then the person who has semi-direct access to this case saying that there's real
Starting point is 01:40:16 demonic ties to this makes you really wonder, what are we dealing with here. Right. Yeah. You got a good point, man. I believe that these deserts, the wilderness, it's not just spiritual, you know, metaphor. I think there's absolutely more high strangeness in those areas. And maybe his disappearance was one thing. And the team going to look for him found something that they didn't anticipate. Very possible. Very possible.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Wow. It could be yes and. Yes. You know? But yeah. Wow. Did you ever think about why the, the demons go to the desert instead of the water.
Starting point is 01:41:05 You know, like when Jesus cast them into the pigs and then sent them into the abyss, I look at that as like a reminder of the flood, you know? Yeah. I don't know, it's just a little tangent. Don't let me go down the road. What do you got to do? Yeah, even Jesus, like after he was baptized, he went into the desert and was battling Satan in the desert for 40 days. Yeah. So, I mean, like, it's very correlated to the desert 100%. And it makes my brain kind of clicked a little bit in this sphere too. As remember we were talking to earlier, like, are these generals, are they making agreements with these entities, right? So, like, he's out in New Mexico. This is where he lives. He's retired. But like, he's made an agreement. And like, what if the humans couldn't find him? So they sent the entities to go find him. And that's what they encounter. Because he had in a, we can't escape the
Starting point is 01:41:59 spiritual world. They're going to find us. I love this show. You guys are bringing heat. That's good. I like it. I like it. That's a great.
Starting point is 01:42:08 We should make a movie out of that. That's a movie. I love it. They can find you anywhere. Well, yeah, maybe that's the future of it all too. I wonder if that's how they make Marvel movies is they just sit around pontificating about such situations and they record them and they're like, yep, that's the movie
Starting point is 01:42:22 line right there. That's what we're doing. That's probably more like, here's a stack of classified stuff. Yeah. A plot line. Give it to you by a demonic entity. T. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably what's happening. Jack, before we start wrapping this up,
Starting point is 01:42:34 do you got anything that you'd like to say? Do you want to just wish people well? Let them see your face at all one more time. Of course. I wish you well. I love doing this stuff. So I just like to be behind the scenes and click all the buttons. I just realized that we have a roll of toilet paper behind Jack on camera. It's not toilet paper. That's my man. I said, I'm not in the crappers.
Starting point is 01:42:56 It's a giant towel. It's a toilet. Here it's house. Jacks from the bath. Well, it's actually nephalum toilet paper. You know? Extra large. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:07 That's funny. Well, listen, we got to do another recording with Beau. And I want to bring this in for a landing. I think this is a really good conversation. And we explored these topics that are hitting right now. And maybe a way that maybe not everybody has explored. The reality is that we are 100% in the middle, not starting, not ending, not a thought. We're in the middle of a supernatural spiritual war, and the subject is you.
Starting point is 01:43:35 And so you need to arm yourself up and get real serious about Jesus real fast, because the deception and the agenda is not slowing down. It's accelerating. And if you don't get things figured out quickly, the worst thing that could happen, and it will happen if you don't get things figured out quickly, is that you get swept up into deception and you don't know it. that's a scary thought so guys listen check out beau's book again army of god terror by night
Starting point is 01:44:06 it is an awesome novel that's based off his research reality of what he's discovered on his show and he was chomping at the bit to write this because he said that he actually looked up on amazon he was looking for something to read and he couldn't find a book covering what he writes about here so that was his cue to write the book check it out on amazon for sure
Starting point is 01:44:27 Bo, tell people where they can find you, man. Anywhere you have social media. It's the Bump Podcast. If you have an experience that you want to let me know about or share a testimony, you can holler at me at the Bump Podcast at gmail.com. But yeah, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, all that. It's just the Bump podcast. Been around for a while.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Awesome. You got any final words, Derek? No, man. We just appreciate everyone who watches and supports us. And just remember, it gets weird. It does get weird. It does get weird. All right, guys.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Until next week, I'll see you when I see you. Nice. Oh, boy. Is that a slingshot? Yeah, yeah. Blingshot season. Grace hit me like, boom. Can't miss.
Starting point is 01:45:18 God with me. Whole squad going. Devil try to throw high green because the light too bright. Walking the spotlight, who that? Standing in the slang and the truth slap. Never in the way we moved ad. I'm a name for the hit like a du wreck. I was stuck in the valley of that view bad.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Now I'm up in the hills with a food. Back. Guy took all my elves ran through that. Now the wind stack high like a new stack. Every step with the light, that's a blueprint. Whole pack getting bright cause he's doing it. He the king so the crown got a new fidd and the cross here harder than a new clip. We ain't here just the body's a movement.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Every giant in the way he'll move it. If the world when I hate we cool with it because the love is strong with the tree like, Boom, can't miss snow. God with me, all squad, got it too bright. I've been down in the dirt now I'm cleaned up. Blood bought brand new, never dreamed up. Every thrown out of stone trying to team up. Got 50,000 standing here feeling beamed up.
Starting point is 01:46:11 I remember them nice in the struggle. Feeling way down deep by the trouble. But he showed up strong bro the muzzle. Now the fake bill bit like a double. We ain't here for the frame of the flash. We just point to the king letting him flash. Living water in the cup, no cap, in the well. Don't run dry, that's that fax.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Now we run another pat with a show step. Every loss is a set up for the best yet. Every giant in my face is a test bet. Got swing once. We hit like, boom, boom. Can't miss snow. God with me. Grace hit me like, boom, boom.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Blank shot, man.

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