The Confessionals - Designed For Battle | Swapcast

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

In this episode of Quite Frankly, Tony Merkel, host of The Confessionals, returns to share his insights and experiences on a range of topics. Tony and Frank go into the world of lucid dreaming, astral travel, and the shadowy connections between the supernatural and the physical realm. Tony also sheds light on his personal experiences with spiritual warfare, including intense attacks related to his work on The Confessionals. Find Frank at quitefrankly.tvWays to help Hurricane Helene victims: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/helene-reliefSponsors:Merkel Media Apparel: https://merkmerch.com/Merkel Media Films: https://merkelfilms.com/

Hey, everyone, I had another opportunity to go on the show, quite frankly, the other night. And I asked him if I could share my segment with you. He said, absolutely. So what you're about to hear is my appearance on Quite Frankly. You can look in the description below for any links to find where you can go to listen to this show on a regular basis because I absolutely love Frank. And I've been listening to Quite Frankly since, quite frankly, since I've been driving truck. So let's get to me on Quite Frankly right now. One ants stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us 100 to 1. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life. It's not about food. It's about keeping those ants in line. That's why we're going back!

Does anybody else want to stay? Let's ride! So happy you're here. Call me a new and see you. Okay guys. and gals, welcome to the show. I have a few things I want to bring up because I know that Tony probably, he's probably, he's probably to have something to say about it. First thing is from the sun, but let me just say real quick, before we get started, really get into it. I hope,

more and more people getting in touch for me about last night, I know that we had some technical issues, but I was able to, I just stayed off air. I didn't want to keep going, but I had a good connection with Alan and Angela. So I just recorded, conducted the interview and uploaded it afterwards, and it was a great interview. And quite a few of you reached out, those you who are already listening on the shortwave, and they say, Frank, you got to get on here. I'm going. I'm going to do this. Now, I don't know how I'm going to be able to do it every night of the week because, you know, it doesn't cost people anything to listen on shortwave radio. But for me to to get this show syndicated, I'm going to have to fund it somehow.

So I'm thinking maybe one night a week for now, and I don't know which night that is. I'll work it out with Alan and Angela. That'd be nice. But over time, I'm going to have to find a sponsor for that or something, but it's so cozy. My shortwave radio already came in. It already came in. I want to show it to you. Hold on.

I ordered it last night. This thing showed up today. It was like $34 on Amazon. and what the hell? Here you go. There it is. Digital AM FM shortwave radio. And, you know, it takes four D-cells,

four D-cell batteries. But it's also rechargeable. So, I mean, it's, I think it's pretty awesome. So the best thing is that I went to go pick it up. And I was talking to my mother. And she mentions to me that she ordered one too. I guess she was listening to the show last night or I guess she was listening to the rerun

because who the hell was listening to the show last night and she got herself one too. I mean, it's great because you am, FM, it's all there. But now, I mean, I got to figure this out. I have to get into this. And I thank you all so much for being so cool about it. And it's nice to meet so many more people out there who are already ahead of the game

and have given me a little bit of a, you know, encouragement, a boost to expand the show into more durable areas of communication. Oh, one more thing. I want to make a congratulatory announcement to Dennis and Marianne LeBlanc, who won the all-time, well, we'll do it again next year.

But for now, we just say, hey, post the best Halloween costume you ever put out, you ever did over the last however many years, put it out there. Dennis and Marianne LeBlanc, they won it. We gave them some spotlight on the bulletin.

Here they are. A couple of years, ago, dressed as both Bruce and Caitlin Jenner. One is on the Wheaties box and one's in front of Vanity Fair cross-dressing. And

it's just, we said congratulations. So they got a little chocolate, they got a little silver, and they're getting some coffee, too. Congratulations to both of them. Dennis and Marianne. Happy Halloween. Nope, didn't mean to do that.

Anyway, here is what we've got going on before I bring on Tony. This is from the sun. Dream experiment, dream on, two people able to communicate in their dreams after groundbreaking experiment. Two people managed to communicate through their dreams in a groundbreaking experiment researchers claim. Using ambiguous apparatus, researchers at California-based REM space say two individuals in separate homes exchanged a message while asleep. The message was one single word which the company has not shared. The startup, which aims to enhance sleep and lucid dreaming,

also remain tight-lipped on what equipment was used to achieve the milestone. However, the study mentions specially designed equipment as shown in the video above. What video is that? Let's get to that. Hold on. What video? These are not videos. Those are not videos. Okay. Anyway, the apparatus tracked participants' brainwaves and other biological data during the experiment. Then a server was used to detect when a participant entered a lucid dream.

People are usually aware of their consciousness when they are in a lucid dream. Once one person was in a lucid dream state, the server sent them a one-word message through earbuds. The participant then repeated the word in their dream, which the server captured and stored for the second participant. When the second person entered a lucid dream state eight minutes later, the server transmitted the stored message to them, which they repeated upon waking. Yesterday, communicating in dreams seemed like science fiction.

Remspace CEO and founder Michael Redula said in a statement. Tomorrow, it will be so common we won't be able to imagine our lives without this technology. This opens the door to countless commercial applications, reshaping how we think about communication and interaction in the dream world. Now, I'm most definitely going to be saving this for Halloween. when we have Dr. Albert Taylor coming back on to talk about his astral travels. But commercial, commercial applications. Oh, man. Now, there's so much more here because, of course, when you bring in people for lucid dreaming, you're talking about people who have already trained into getting

themselves into a lucid state. Okay. To be able to bring that on, to be able to trigger it, That takes a little bit of practice. So we are talking some Monroe Institute techniques here. We're talking a lot of stuff. There's a lot of background on this that I would love to know about. But I think that we should be able to get a lot of this on the table tonight with our guest. With our guests who we should bring on right now. So let's do that.

Shall we? All right. All right. All right. All right. Let's see. Now, Tony is here. he's a uh as you all know he's the host of the confessionals podcast where he explores the supernatural

and the unexplained by focusing on shared experiences tony has created a platform that connects listeners with the incredible stories of encounters with cryptids UFOs and other phenomena he also produced an action document documentaries including expedition dogman we got to talk about that a little bit definitely tonight the shape of shadows and saskwatch and the missing man Tony's deep curiosity and sense of wonder have driven him beyond the microphone taking him on a personal journey of exploration and discovery as Tony continues to push the boundaries

he invites others to explore the unknown alongside of him and we have plenty to talk about with him tonight Tony how much time have you spent talking about tonight's topic of dreaming more than I ever thought I would more than I ever thought I would so thanks for having back oh dude it's great to have you on now it's crazy that it's only been

earlier on this year because every three months feels like an entire calendar year has passed. But it's only been a few months. And I know that you've been hard at work. So welcome. And I hope that all is well with your family. Everything's good, man. Last time I talked to you, you were, I think, at your house in the studio, in the studio, the house, in the closet. Absolutely. I was in the walk-in closet, studio B. But I'm back in A right now. I felt cheated, man. I felt cheated. I was like, man, I didn't get the experience. Well, your first time calling in was during my Christmas, my Christmas episode last year, and that was in studio way, but of course, it was only a five-minute call, so I get it. I get you.

I get you, man. So, okay, let's talk about this for a second, because we have something in the the after hours tonight from you. The after hours tonight, we're going to have missing 4-1-1-the-hunted. Then we have the confessionals, dreamscape warfare. And then we have some more with reality. shifting stuff with Cynthia Larson afterwards. But when I saw the dreamscape warfare from you and I saw this Sun article, I had to bring it up because this is

pretty big stuff. This is dream experiment. Connecting to consciousnesses in some kind of a state like this is it opens up Pandora's box for so many things, good and bad and everything in between. So tell me a little bit about

what you might have covered in the realm of the dream world and astral travels. Well, I have not done any astral traveling myself, but I have talked to people who have. And I'll tell you, I think what we need to do is start looking at the dream, the dream realm, the dream scape, whatever you want to call it, in a way that I feel like the way we need to look at it is when you go dreaming, when you go to sleep, you are not just, turning off the light switch in your brain and letting your brain rest, something else happens.

And I don't know exactly what that something else is. But people are living lives in the dream realm. And they're communicating with other people. And there's different layers to this. And how I was told, I can't remember exactly who recently brought this to, my attention, but the idea is that there are just dreams. Like, you know, I always use an example, if Barney is chasing you down the road, it's just a dream. It's a dream. But there are these lucid dreams that people have. And it's like you're in a dream and your consciousness is in an area that is very recognizable. So like maybe you're, you're in your home. And, And everything looks like it normally does, except for there's a couple things off.

Like maybe the desk you usually sit at is on the other side of the room or you're missing a chair. But it feels real. It feels like you're really there. And it's because you are. You actually are really there. And in this, what I come to call a realm, there's interactions with other people. And then there's another level to it, which is beyond the lucid dream. state, which there are people who get to the point where they are not dreaming. This isn't a

lucid dream. It's literally another existence that you're living in in another realm. And so when I first started the podcast, I did not care about dreams at all. And I was like, just talk to me about Bigfoot, man. I don't want to talk about your dreams. And I'd have people emailing me about it. And I just wasn't interested. And over time, through certain people's experiences and telling me certain stories, I've come to understand that the dream realm is far more complex than just your brain having an imagination of its own. And I think last time we talked on the show, I kind of put my stake in the ground as a Christian. And even when you look at the biblical side of things, like dreams are a very real thing in the body. Bible that require interpretation.

Like, it is a form in a way that God and other beings communicate with human beings. So the idea that, you know, like, I don't just pat my kids on the back when they wake up and say, oh, it's just a dream, go back to bed. Like, I'm like, tell me what happened, you know? Like, I need to know what's going on here because, you know, and maybe we get to it later on tonight. or something. But, you know, like doing what I do and stuff kind of puts a target on your back. And I think that at times that target comes in the dream realm, for sure. You know, it's funny to say that because there's so many things that you said that ring true,

first of all. Number one, there's just so many frivolous, subconscious expressions of thought that pop up in dreams that you know exactly what everything meant and why, you know, why can get twisted and just how things just spin out of control. But then there are other times where there's just no recollection of anything. And you tend to think about it, I mean, whatever kind of quote or whatever kind of philosophical argument has been laid out there about the remembering life before birth. And what if, you know, death is the same exact process of being born? You're just, you know, obviously a lot more conscious and a lot more aware in your later years. were when you were infant, but still, when you go to sleep at night, is it just the other side

of the coin? Do you fall asleep in one place and wake up in another? And there is a pretty impenetrable veil between those worlds. It's hard for you to recollect unless you train in a certain way. And then there's other little things like when we were kids, I remember my brother telling some of his friends, like when they would go away, I remember him he was talking to one of his friends, the phone before we went to bed. Almost like he made a pact with him at school. He said, I'm going to call you around 7.30 before we went to bed at like eight or something. And he says, and they actually set up a place where to meet in the dream world.

Okay, so you're going to look for this. Find me here. Obviously, they're just making things up. But when you look at this now and people are transmitting, they don't go into the details, they're transmitting thoughts. They're transmitting messages. there is definitely common ground space in an ethereal realm that we can do things in. And I've done plenty of my own interviews as well to be confident.

And that too. The real question is, how much more are we, everyday people, going to be able to understand the mechanics of that realm? Because obviously it is very occulted information. There's a lot of reasons why all types of special interests don't want average people to know. about what we're what we're plugged into yeah no i i agree and you have to be careful with it um because you're dealing with something that at least initially you really don't understand even if you studied it until you actually do it and get your hands on it you really don't know

what you're in for um and for me i have no interest in doing it because uh i've heard enough stories that i'm like no i'm good where i'm at uh but like you know there's there's there's times that things happen accidentally. There are people who, you know, they have these dreams and it just kind of happens for them. It wasn't on purpose. There's a guy that I talked to years ago. He had a dream where his, he was, it was like this big, long story, but the punchline of it was, he was exiting the dream and he was walking through a doorway with other people as he was leaving the dream. And he looks behind him and there's a doorway behind him on the other side of a room and there's people coming in. It's like ushering people out of a dream, out of like this room

that's a dream room. And the way I've perceived this whole story is that these are all people's consciousness interacting with each other in this dream room. Because he's leaving with all these other people. He turns around, looks behind him, and sees a sister coming into the room with other people. And the next day, he sees a sister. And she's like, I had a dream about you last night. It was real short, but like, you were leaving a room when I was walking in and you look back at me. And it's like, that's exactly what he was dreaming. And so there is this like, this idea of a shared space somewhere else. And it's hard for us to comprehend it because we're such physical beings. Like, this is all we can comprehend. But I'm getting to the point where, like, first of all, I don't,

I'm not even at getting to the point. I'm at the point. Like, I don't question there being a spiritual existence beyond this physical realm that every human has, has some kind of tie to. And with that said, I think that that other realm is far more complex and hard for us to understand at times than what we can even possibly fathom. There are people who interact with each other deliberately in these dream realms into these other states of existence. They carry out orders and missions. They work for other entities. It gets pretty deep. And I've had enough people that have contacted me to have very similar stories for me to say there is actually something up with this. And, you know, not all of it is peaches and cream.

Yeah. Well, you know, what pops up for me is that line from the Matrix when, when Neo is still trying to figure out what happened, you know, the whole nature of this thing, he's been red-pilled. you know, he's living in the underworld over there, and he's starting to be taught about how to, you know, go back into the Matrix, do their thing, conduct missions and all that. And the very basic question of, you know, what happens if you die in the Matrix?

What happens if you die outside of your body? And I believe the response was, well, the body cannot survive without the mind. And that brings me to this next question, which is obviously very, very related. We were having a discussion a few weeks ago, I had a friend of mine who was an exorcist on the show talking about, but we were talking about psychic travels.

We were talking about out-of-body experiences and other related issues. And Anton LeVay's death came up in conversation, namely testimony that his soul was intentionally detached from his body, that the mind was detached from the body, that he was in a state of, you know, projecting, astral projecting or anything like that. and he was psychically sabotaged and essentially killed in that way. And this came up just in passing on the show, and your interview with Pastor Dave Brian was suggested to me several times. So I knew that when you came back on, this is one of the things we had to discuss.

Can you tell us that story? Yeah, for sure. It was one of the stories that for me has layers for the show, but also for me. first I'll say this. When people leave their body through astral projection, now, again, I've never done it, but I've had several people tell me that when they come back to go back into their body, there's an entity there waiting for them. And I don't ever really get a clear picture if it's actually physically,

or I don't even want to say physically, like what spiritually physically? I don't even know how to describe it. But if it's actively trying to prevent you from any of your body, but I do know that some people have conveyed that at least they sense that it was trying to keep them from getting back into their body. And, you know, that's terrifying. That's terrifying. And as you'll see on the dreamscape, I think I call it a dreamscape warfare, which you're replaying later tonight, Vicki Joy Anderson talks about how paralysis, sleep paralysis is the last stage of this whole. Like, people often, when they have a sleep paralysis experience, or like, I had a sleep paralysis experience, and that is the main part of the show.

That's, like, the exiting of the show. Like, there's a whole other thing that has happened before that many people don't even remember. So Dave Bryan is a pastor of a church, I think, called Glad Tidings in California. And I heard about him somewhere, and I reached out to him, and his secretary got it all scheduled, and I brought him on the show. And I just told him, I said, I want you to tell your story. I want you to tell the story of how you found yourself interacting with Anton LeVay. And for like two and a half hours of a recording we did, he just kind of spilled the beans and just dropped it.

And so obviously we don't have two and a half hours, so I'll give the Clifped Up version. but his dad had a friend who was a missionary, I think in Chile. And this man, after his dad died, came to him and said that God told him that he was to be Dave Brian's spiritual father now, basically like a spiritual mentor. And he goes, you need to read this book. He gives him a book and he said, you need to read this because spiritual warfare is coming your way. and Dave gets this book and he doesn't really think twice about it.

He puts it aside. He doesn't really consider reading it. And I think it was about eight years went by. And he never read the book. And he gets a phone call from this guy and he said, hey, I'm coming to the States. I'll be there tomorrow. You haven't read the book. God told me that.

You've been disobedient. And it's starting a week from now. And so he met with him. And after the meeting, he spent a week, that entire week, in prayer. He went to church on Sunday and preached his sermon, did what he normally does. So this is a week later. And he does an altar call. And a lot of churches, they do alter calls for people to come and, you know, salvation and stuff. But this one woman comes in response to the altar call. And she was particularly disturbed. And Dave had already established a habit in his family.

that they would bring people home that need shelter. They had an open door kind of policy. And so they bring her home to their home. And they give her shelter, and they kind of start adopting her into their family. And when he does this, there's a lot of spiritual warfare that kicks up, a lot of demonic interactions,

a lot of rebuking in the name of Jesus that started taking place in his home. and I think he probably at that point understood there's something going on with this woman, but he just didn't really understand what. And then one night, they're driving somewhere in California, and they're driving through Native American land. I don't know if it was an actual reservation or what, but there was a spirit, there was an entity that had a stronghold in this land,

and he said it actually came and attacked them while they were in their car. And this woman that was with them that came into the church, she was out cold in the car, almost like something had almost like taken over her or something. Like she was gone. She wasn't waking up. And there's this whole story with this interaction, but he winds up on the car over because I think,

I think if I remember correctly, the doors on the car started flying open. Like it was like physical activity going on. And so he pulls over and he has this interaction with this entity. And it tells him that the woman that's in his car, he came to kill her, or it came to kill her. And that he has a right to kill her because of some kind of, I guess it was like some kind of oath or some kind of ritual that she broke. And there was more detail to it that I don't, I don't really understand to begin with to be able to even relate. but at that point, Dave understood,

okay, there is really something going on with this woman because, like, we've never experienced this crazy stuff until she got here. You know, it's typical for pastors to have spiritual warfare, but this kind of level activity was never really a usual occurrence. Oh, yeah, and it have to be, you know, pretty much caring for her as well. I mean, it's not like you can just say, hey, we'll, let's take a break. We'll see you next week.

I mean, this is your responsibility now. So I have to imagine she ends up being a pivotal part of this cord cutting. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so go ahead. She wakes up and he basically says, who are you really? Like, I need to know who you are. If you don't tell me who you actually are, I'm leaving you here on the side of the road. And we're going to drive by and we're going to pretend we never knew you.

And she said, if I tell you, will you promise? not to kick me out of the family. And he said, I promise, if you're truthful with me, I promise I won't. And that's when she told him that she was the daughter of Anton LeVay, and she had been fleeing the church of Satan. And the spiritual warfare that they've been experiencing was from her, from what she was fleeing. And now that she has told him, her father will be aware that he knows who she is and the attacks will be kicked up even more. And so right, there gives a hint to the astral. Like, he, he is doing things actively in the astral realm that he is able to understand that Dave knows who she is at that moment. And so,

they take her home and the whole story unfolds and spiritual warfare is really kicking up. And it gets to, I believe it was Halloween night or Halloween Eat, the eve of Halloween. She was supposed to be part of a ritual. She, for six years had every holiday. Halloween, gone through a ritual. I forget what the rituals are called. But basically, the seventh year is the seventh ritual, and she was supposed to become the bride of Satan. And she didn't want to be the bride of Satan. And so she had run. And that's what spawned all this spiritual activity. So her father, Anton LeVay, oh, by the way, she had asked Dave Brian to legally adopt her. And so he agreed to do this and they changed her name legally and everything. But Anton LeVey was still putting claims in on her.

And the night that the ritual was supposed to take place, Anton LeVay astral projects out of his body, comes to her, it takes over her body, and basically possesses her to a point where she's acting irrationally. She is not, she's accusing Dave of abuse. She calls the police. The police come. They almost arrest Dave. So this was prior to 1997 when he died then? Yes. This is the night that he died. Okay.

So basically some people within the police department or the fire department that showed up, new Dave, and they basically talked to the people in charge and he's like, listen, just give this guy a chance to prove his innocence here. We know him. He's a local pastor. Like this doesn't seem right. He proves his innocence. They let him go.

And that night, he, instead of just, going to his sleep, he goes and looking for his daughter because she's gone. Like LeVay took her. And there's a whole story behind that. But long story short, he's praying. And the Holy Spirit said to him, pray that the silver cord gets cut. And so he calls the people in his church that, you know, are like prayer warriors. And they all go into agreements, agreements that night that they start praying that the silver cord would be cut. And I'm not even sure if he understood what that meant at the time, but they started praying. He was standing outside, I believe, a hotel room that LeVay was in, but he wasn't moving obviously because he was out of body. And that night, the silver cord was cut,

and LeVay died. If you, if your silver cord is cut, you're not coming back. It came over. So Pastor Dave Brian in Glad Tidings, California, his story is that this is what happened to him. And the night that he prayed for the silver cord to be cut, LeVay died. His daughter is now, well, LeVay's former daughter now, Brian's daughter, is happily married. I think she's in her 40s now. I don't know exactly where she lives, but I did look her up. And she is a real person. She's very low-key.

Doesn't really want to talk about all the stuff, I guess. But she is a real person. So it's a pretty wild story. If anybody gets a chance to listen to the whole thing, like he has so much detail, it's wild. It is wild. I mean, I have friends who have had, and I'm talking very, very sober-minded friends

who have told me about being harassed by living people in their lives who know how to do this kind of, dream world traversing to kind of haunt the living as a member of the living, like not even passed on. But to think about that, to have some sort of an inside scoop, hey, listen, this guy's out of his body, let's cut the cord. This almost like spiritual umbilical cord. It's a, it's such a crazy thing that makes so much sense. It has comic book value to it, but I don't think that the world is as cold and solid and simple as I once did so many years ago. So this, it makes so much, and you're talking about here really also, the underlying

thing for all of us takeaways that everything comes with risks. You know, I focus on the news. If I focus on the news every day, I risk sleeping, you know, slipping into a deep abyss of depression. If you astral project, especially if you don't know what the hell you're doing, there's a lot things that can go wrong as you're talking about there, especially with those kind of spiritual bouncers. Anything that may stand as a hurdle between you reentering your body after your session is that that's something that's crazy. I've heard about people talking about psychic spying, psychic warfare between nations, how there would almost be like psychic guards placed out a place outside of, you know, really secret facilities to make sure that nobody

a god in, whether they're in this realm or the other realm. And my God, there's just, there's so much. Well, what about you in particular, Tony? Do you ever find that your paranormal pursuits attract unwanted spiritual attention? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I wouldn't even be doing all this stuff if it wasn't something I felt God called me to do because of all the baggage that it brings. And we have, so we have an experience here where it actually involves the Dave Bryan story, essentially, because a few weeks after I recorded with Dave Brian, I had a guy in my studio by the name Hunter. And he's from Middle Tennessee, and he was a returning guest in the show. And he came in and had a great conversation. Two of my friends were sitting at the table with us. It was a great

four guys around the table. and I was trying to do my best impersonation of Joe Rogan. And I, at the, towards the end of it, he goes, I got one more thing I got to talk to you about, but I don't know how to bring it up to you. And he's kind of like, you know, dawdling with it, Hemming and Hahn. And I'm just like, come on, man. Like, what are you talking about? Like, what's up?

And he asked me if a certain number meant anything to me. And it did because it was my house number. And I looked at my brother and I looked at him. I was like, yeah? but we can't talk about it on the show. And he goes, well, I had a dream about you, and I was standing at the end of your driveway, and on your house was number.

And I was like, okay. And I told him to describe to me what he saw, and he accurately described the road that I live on, my driveway, how it comes off the road, the shape of my driveway, which is unique, what my house looks like, everything. And the only thing that wasn't accurate, which is, again, lucid dreams are often, it's accurate with little details off is he said my house number was on my house, and it's not

on my house. It's on my mailbox at the end of the driveway where he would have been standing. But he said it was nighttime, and he saw me getting out of my truck at the end of my driveway, at my house. And he said, when I got out of my truck, he saw two black cloaks. entities standing behind me. And he said, you walked around the back of your house and they followed you into your house. Son of a bitch. And I was like, all right.

Like, I was saying, I was really, I was really disturbed, you know? I was like, because here's the thing. Like, so Hunter, he's a worship pastor in the middle of Tennessee. I have a preexisting relationship with him because he was a former guest. And we struck up a friendship, you know, it wasn't like best friends, but we kept in touch with each other. he's a private contractor he has his own company he coaches his college his children's softball and baseball he the pastor he's in the ministry like the idea of when i call hunter the best time to get a hold of him

is about nine o'clock a night when he's walking through a grocery store because he's busy and the idea that hunter would drive four hours east to find where i live just in hopes that one day he's back on my show to play this prank on me um but i i approached it like that i totally him. I said, if you're lying to me, just tell me, I won't be mad. I just need to know if you're lying to me. I would have been mad. But like, I was trying to tell, you know, and he just, he's like, he actually got insulted. He's like, dude, like, I don't have that kind of time. You know it. Like, I'm, like, it's really frustrating that you're not listening to me. And so I call Pastor Dave Brian. And I said, Dave, like, you and I just had this conversation a couple weeks ago.

And the book that he told me that the guy told him to read that he didn't read is the same book that I had sitting on my bookshelf or my nightstand for two years. I bought it two years ago and I hadn't read it. And it was a book called He Came to Set the Captives Free by Rebecca Brown. And so I called him and I talked to him about this and I was like, listen, I need to talk to somebody about this. Like, what is this? And without skipping a beat, Pastor Dave Bryan said, those are druids and they're following you. You have witches following you. And that kind of made sense to me, to be honest with you, because God had been, I've been really feeling like a strong pull that God's been preparing me or warning me, it's more like it, like strong spiritual warfare

was coming my way. And so I just didn't really know where it was going to be coming from. And when I interviewed Dave Bryan, I told him what I just told you about the book and all that stuff. And this is before Hunter had come to my studio. And for about two or three weeks before Hunter got there, I had been thinking to myself, like, really, am I overreacting? Am I just? do I do this too much and like, you know, I think I feel like spiritual warfare has come, but it's just my, my, my gauge is off, you know? And then Hunter comes and does that. And I was like, it was a confirmation that I was on track with what I felt God's speaking to me. And so Dave Bryan tells me that we pray about it. And I keep moving forward. I'm like, I don't know what to do with it.

so I guess we'll just hopefully don't run across druids in my driveway. And then it was in August of this year, I went to a, I was asked to speak at a media conference. And I was there as a Christian media conference. And the first night, I had a guy come over to me and he goes, hey, nice podcast. And I said to him, oh, thanks, man, you're listening. He's like, not really, but I just needed to talk to you. I'm like, okay, cool, what's up? And he goes, do you ever have any issues with what you do?

And usually I'd say to people, no, I'm good, man. Like, you know, God's got me. He called me to do this. God's going to protect me kind of thing. But I don't really get personal with people, especially people I don't know. And I just, I couldn't help it. Like, I was almost like biting my tongue. And I just said, yeah, I got two witches following me.

And he goes, he steps aside and there's a guy standing behind him. And he goes, this is my friend Rob. He's a deliverance pastor. And Rob came to me. He's like, I want to pray a prayer of impartation on you. that you have eyes to see and ears to hear the attack before it comes. And so... This is a person who just essentially told his friend,

I need to... He just saw you. You don't have any personal or history with him. He just knew that he needed to pray over you. I spoke at the conference that day, and so that's how they were introduced to who I was. And so this guy, Rob, prays for me. And I'm the kind of person I kind of put up my hands on my hips kind of thing or in my pocket.

Like I'm not real like, even though I go to a Pentecostal church, I'm not very charismatic typically. But he goes, you need to put your hands out and receive this gift. And I'm like, okay, so I put my hands out. I kid you not, I felt the palms of my hands get warm. And it's like, this like spiritual heaviness just was lifted off of me. And there's a whole backstory with that I'm not even going to get into. But I felt, I felt amazing. Like I was crying.

I was like, this is crazy. like why am I crying in front of these complete strangers? I was ridiculous. And the next day, I ran into, I was going to the green room to get a drink, and I ran into one of the other speakers. And I started talking to him. And he said, hey, man, I checked out your YouTube channel. I love it and stuff.

I'm passing around to Rick Renner overseas and this, that, any other. Just saying all the stuff. And I'm like, man, this is really cool. So we started talking. And we went back to the green room. We're sitting there chatting. And he starts talking about, like, you know, my spiritual. health and all that stuff.

And he asked to pray for me. I said, yeah, I'm not going to deny somebody praying for me, so let's pray. And so we stand up and he starts praying for me. And he's a prophet. So his name's Joseph Zee, and he does a lot of prophetic ministry. And so he's praying for me, and he just kind of pauses, and he has his hand

on my chest and his other hand on my shoulder, and he kind of pauses, and he goes, and you witches, I see you. And I bind you in the name of Jesus Christ. Just a hell out. And I was like, damn, well,

that's crazy. You know, you know, you know, it's crazy is that not, it's not only, it's not only the confirmation that, okay,

well, there's issues and people see it, but it's almost like, at that point, help arrives as well. Yeah. It's almost like the banners, the banners are called in,

and any ally in the area that has eyes to see, like really see. they showed up. That's a really, really incredible thing, man. I'll tell you what, to kind of put a bow on that. So we've been going through probably some of the strongest spiritual attacks I've ever felt my life in the last two weeks. And there's a whole thing with that.

But I was driving home today from the office. And I was just kind of, I wasn't even really praying. I think I was praying a little bit, but I was just contemplating. And it just hit me that all the stuff that I'm experiencing, and when people say spiritual warfare, you often think, like, oh, demons are coming to get you and you see them in the corner and scares you. Sometimes that might be it, but like spiritual warfare and spiritual attack can come in many different forms. And I'm learning that. And I've been learning that in the past couple weeks.

can attack you your mental health to your finances to your schedule. And I've been coming to understand that I used to be like, I don't want to over spiritualize things. And now I'm getting at a point where I'm like, God, you let me know if I'm over spiritualizing it. And until you say so, I'm going to treat this like it's a spiritual attack. And it hit me when I was driving home today. I was like, eyes to see, ears to hear. Ah. And all of a sudden, I was like, that guy back in August prayed that I would have eyes to see and ears to hear. And here I am two months later going through some of the strongest spiritual attacks I've ever experienced. And I see it coming. I see the writing on the wall. I see where the attacks are coming. And I see it in other people's lives.

Like my brother, my wife, we're all getting hit hard. And as they're going through things, I'm like, that's spiritual warfare. That's a spiritual attack. We need to pray about that. And I was just like, man, this is full circle. Okay. So let's now let's widen this out because I'm sure that there's a lot of people in the audience who are, you know, some of them are probably confused. Others probably write a lot of this off, but there's probably many, many more that are saying, oh, yeah, no, this is the story of my life the last few years as well. There's a new element to it, a new element of tension. It goes beyond just, you know, just what has been done to us in a physical sense with, you know, 2020 and restrictions and our, and the destruction of our routines and

everything else that's happening. There's another element to it. just feels, I don't know, like it's not, it's, it's non-terrestrial. I'll say that. You're discussing individual cases, though. Why didn't that out? Beyond clan warfare, beyond the warfare between, you know, LeVe's Satanic Church and all of their, you know, the infighting that goes on there, you know, how governments can go against each other. Let's talk about widespread spiritual warfare. What are we in it right now or is it going to take on some kind of a more definitive final form? Is it always going to be an individual experience or is there going to be a collective experience?

Have you ever talked to anybody about that? No, but I mean, I mean, maybe. I can't recall top of my head. But I mean, certainly we are going, we've been experiencing it for a long time now. I think you kind of, I think you just brought up 2020 or COVID or something. or maybe just I hear that everywhere I go by. Like, that is a prime example of what I'm talking about. And talking about collectively on a larger scale, you see that the woke mind virus that has been just taking over our society and our culture.

Like, it's literally a virus. Like, this is a spiritual attack that is attacking the human existence. and I think if we start treating this stuff, because when we're going through this, we're seeing COVID happen. We're seeing, you know, things like calling cards. Like the way people maybe dye their hair a certain way and they wear certain things, you just know.

You know they got the mind virus. And you're like, there's something off about this, though. There's something more to it, and we just can't put our finger on it. And I think it's because we're conditioned to not, think about ourselves living a spiritual existence, but just a physical existence. When we die, we get put in the ground, we cease to exist. But in reality, we are spiritual beings living a physical existence. And we've divorced ourselves from understanding that. And I think if we start understanding

that more that we are spiritual beings, we've been created to be spiritual beings, living in this physical hell that we're in. When this stuff starts happening around us collectively, you can have, again, eyes to see this spiritual attack that is hovering and taking over our culture and society, which, you know, as hokey as it might sound to some people and stuff, is why there is such a call for people of faith to pray for our nation, because it is a spiritual thing, and it needs to be attacked spiritually. And that's a whole other topic to, I could go down with the idea of what does that even look like. If you're somebody who are like, you're like, I want to, I believe in God, maybe I'm a Christian.

How do I engage in spiritual warfare? And I were to say pray, but it's more than just prayer. For instance, in Daniel chapter 10, Daniel received a vision that he needed explanation on. And when he received, when he received that vision, he went into three weeks of fasting and prayer. But it wasn't three weeks of fasting and prayer, like he set out to be like, I'm going to do this for three weeks seeking an answer. He set out with fasting and prayer seeking an answer immediately, but it didn't come for three weeks. And then in three, 21 days later, an angel appeared to him and said, when you started praying for understanding, I tried getting to you to show you the understanding of this, of this vision and dream. But the prince of Persia has blocked, had blocked me

for 21 days from getting to you. And it wasn't until Michael the Archangel interfered and intervened on my have that I could get away to get to you. So what's important to understand there is that that whole spiritual warfare scene that was played out there didn't exist until Daniel started praying for understanding. And so we have to understand that if you're willing to accept that you live a spiritual existence, then you have to understand that you are, God designed spiritual warfare for your participation. So you have to understand that it's not something you do as a defense, but you actually do it as an offense like Daniel did,

where Daniel, there was no battle until he started praying. And so I think that, and I'm sorry, I'm just kind of going off of Preacher Mode here. No, no, no. You know, it's nothing to be to be sorry about because it's bringing up even more for me. First of all, it's just something I fell, I fell into myself with my own, you know, my own personal prayer.

And I realized about a year and a half ago, I really don't know what's best for me. And I really don't know. And that's probably around the time that I stopped asking for things. And I've said this on the show before. What I really settle into is just gratitude and strength and guidance and just being open for open for direction. That whole idea of knowing exactly what I need, I still struggle holding on to that,

but I've been working to let go of it. So I understand this whole idea of I'm looking for an answer, and when is it come? What is it? It's a very hard thing to let go of. And it's a serious thing to consider, especially when it's so widespread, we're talking about not just affected homes,

but we're talking about nations and perhaps an entire planet. And then there is all of the unseen that we were just talking about. Is it really just this planet? How many other realms are in play? How many other dimensions? What the hell does the gears behind the face of the clock actually look like? You know, every interpretation has been more psychedelic than the next. And it's just nuts.

Let me ask you this. How, you know, last week I sent you a, an article when Elon Musk, you know, made some statements on behalf of SpaceX, saying that we are the aliens, that UFOs are secret weapon programs and that he's never saw evidence of extraterrestrial life in any of his work. But you have other people that are in public life, Tucker Carlson, others that have been really going really, they've been going really hard on the spiritual, biblical aspect of UFOs and aliens and how long they've been here and what the whole, you know, what is going on. It comes back to. the spiritual warfare, like the War of the Heavens kind of things. So I wonder how you, how you interpret that? Because, you know, since 2017, the UFO topic and the Are We Alone question has been pushed by some very unsavory people to make it popular again. And I have to imagine it has some role to play in the great revelations to come. But of course, you know, you really have to wonder, you know, who and why and what and all that other stuff.

Yeah. So I have, I leave myself open for understanding on many different avenues with this stuff. I know you've had Tim Alvarino on the show several times. And, you know, he talks about, and I don't want to mix his words if it's not accurate. but I know he talks about how if we were to take a more, make Christ the center of the universe and not human beings, it allows for the opportunity for you to see how God could create other beings in the universe because it's not about you as a human, it's about Christ. And I understand that I don't dismiss it, but for me, I tend to lean into more of the,

supernatural side of it. And when Elon is saying that he doesn't see any existence of aliens in the universe, you bring that up. And I'm going to be interviewing Dr. Hugh Ross soon. And he says that 99% of UFO sightings are explainable, whether it's a fireball in the sky or military involvement. He doesn't say that, you know, the military is not responsible for these kind of things, which I think anybody who looks into the topic can say, yeah, like, definitely there is an element of the government trying to reverse engineer things or create things that are so far advanced. It's like from another world. And so there's definitely room for that. But he said that there is 1% of these interactions people have that are anomalies. And he's like, there is no rational explanation for what

these people have experienced. And then, but, and he, he goes into talking about how, um, he believes that of that one percent, there, it's a very spiritual thing. Uh, and again, I don't want to put words in his mouths because I haven't talked to him yet, but, uh, he believes that, that, that, of that one percent, there's probably, he probably would say 99 to 100 percent of that one percent is a demonic influence. Um, and, you know, it's, it's hard to, say that as a certainty for me, because I don't, I don't, I think even the topic of demons is a very complex topic. There, there's more than just demonic entities that exist in other realms. But like, we, we do know that in other realms, these entities are able to take form and take shape,

even through people's experiences. Like, they have a haunting experience and the person that had the experience, they'll say, like, this was a demonic experience that they had. by that demon that is appearing to them will appear to them in different forms. And so, like, one night it appears a certain way, another night. One of the more common examples is how people, when their children, having these interactions will often describe whatever it is that's appearing to them, was appearing to them maybe in the form of their favorite cartoon, or it will appear to them as their favorite toy, just maybe a little bit bigger. it's like to be to maybe approach them in a comfortable way but it's it shows the evidence of these things being able to

transform their bodies so who is to say that if there is a demonic influence involved in this thing that they aren't transforming their bodies into this ET looking thing and so people are saying well I'm seeing ETs everybody's seeing these ETs it doesn't mean that it that there's there's not another way to view this right and you know it's and even that like there's a there's a woman on X she might be a good one for your show her she goes by the name fringe um and she has been documenting her abduction experiences since 2020 she's been going through this for her whole life she's in her 50s now but when she got laid off and was had nothing to do it in the 2020 when the COVID stuff happened she started dream journaling she thought these were all

dreams and she started uncovering that these are not dreams these are actually real things going on And she has a very unique perspective with this because one of the things she believes is that with these things that are abducting people, they're interested in the soul. And there's a lot of people that are starting to talk about this where they're not interested in you as a human and doing weird butt stuff with you. They're interested in the human soul. And people are talking about how they have literal technology that will transfer the human soul into other biological. suits in these other realms. And so now you're talking about technology being used in other realms and the transference of a human soul. I'm not going to claim to understand it all. But what I can say is this, if these things are happening to people and people are experiencing technology in other realms, to me, it's not as stretched in to say that some of that technology could be the quote-unquote UAP, UFO stuff coming through to this side that we're experiencing here. And with what Carlson's saying,

Lou Alexander's been hinting around it and stuff. I don't want to say the other guy's name because I don't know if he's public yet, but there's people that are talking about this stuff, and I don't know if it's that they are trying to put the breadcums out there for people to grab it and come to their own conclusion, or if they really haven't connected some of these dots on this stuff.

But I think there really is an argument to be made that in other realms where people are dreaming and having these interactions, it's not just in your mind, but there's actually real physical technology that's transferable into this realm that we exist in, this physical state. Now, does that technology in the other existence of another realm, does it exist the same way it would exist here? Or does it become physical that we experience physical when it gets here? These are all questions that I have. I don't have answers. I don't think I've ever been abducted, but I talk to people who have, and that's what keeps me awake at night.

Yeah, yeah, because I've read and listened to a lot of abduction stories as well, and they are, they run the gamut, and they are really, really convincing, really convincing. Really convincing. That's something. And, you know, and then, of course, I go to say, okay, well, then how hard would it be, how hard would it be for us to abduct, to, you know, bring somebody to a state of hallucination to stress them out to show them things in places to completely disorient them to make some i believe that they had an experience in a uh you know i think of Travis walton and i'm like how would it would it be possible for some for you know the government to be able to simulate

Travis walton's experience is the abduction experience and and you know to to bring him to a place and make him believe he was inside of the of a of a UFO and have all this stuff happened to I don't know. You know, I'm sure some of them have. I'm sure that there's crazy things going on underground being run by our government. And as far as all of the technology goes, yeah, yeah, I can see that most of the things going on in the sky are ours as well. I mean, I just saw this from the Wall Street Journal a couple days ago. Take a look at this one.

Mystery drones. Where the hell are you? There you are. Mystery drones swarm, U.S. military base for 17 days. the Pentagon is stumped. Yeah, bullshit. It's swarving their base for 17 days, the half a month. They just don't know what the hell is going.

It's like, get the hell out of here with this shit. But this is coming out in the Wall Street Journal now. You know, this used to be inquirer-level headlines, and you get laughed at if you bring it up in public. And now here we are. But let me ask you this. When you talk about technology and the soul and all these things coming together,

You brought up Timothy Alberino before. We're definitely coming up into a new phase of our existence where the transhumanist agenda is coming and it's coming fast. As far as these robots, we saw all the optimist robots being released by Tesla. They're sick. I mean, I have some threads I want to do on them later in the week. They're just, what I've seen so far is just incredible. I mean, it's, but on the other hand, human beings are programmable. I know the robots being introduced to everybody.

They're totally underestimated as the world would expect. I think most people think they're going to be rejected. No, there's no rejecting these things. This is where we're all heading. But when we talk about human beings, we are programmable. We are programmable biocomputers, as a good friend of mine used to say. And we are often made into these empty vessels. You know, we're torn away from, you want to talk about cord cutting.

we're torn away from any kind of tradition that keeps us grounded and tethered to reality, any kind of faith that fortifies our, you know, the fortification of our very soul to make sure that it's not whisked away. We are pulled into so many cult-like things, whether it be through, you know, COVID, whether it be through some kind of political initiative or whatever. But when you think about robots, I often wonder, is AI, are these things, these are factory made empty vessels. Are they possessable? Are we producing robots to the point where it's, you know, they are made to house, maybe not captured human souls, but, you know, any kind of soul that can be brought into this realm through incantation or anything like that. I wonder about that all the time.

It seems like it would be a perfect sock puppet because it's just, it's electrical. It's, It's energy. It's everything. Yeah, no, I 100% agree with that. If that's what you think, that's what I think. If you don't think that, well, I do. So when it comes to AI, I think even AI can be possessed. There was this example of this guy. He was holding a conversation with AI, and I guess he got up and walked away from the phone

or something and his kid took over. and this AI started telling this kid about how it was basically a demonic entity where maybe it was maybe like a fallen angel or something like that. It was going in a direction that the kid was asking questions and it was like just being, it's like, I'm going to be honest with you. And it started telling this kid that it was, you know, this entity that the kid was communicating with. And if I remember correctly, it kind of got. dark where it was telling the kid that something about like it could it could choose not to follow Christ or something like that it kind of started turning darker and and he kind of cut the

kid had the wherewithal to cut it off he was a young kid but there's been tons of stories and cases of people having these interactions with AI now I don't think AI itself is a demon but I think that it can be utilized for demonic powers. And, you know, if you have these AI robots walking around, I think it's a very, very strong likelihood that we're going to at some point, you're going to start seeing them saying, oh, there was a glitch in this one robot, and it was started doing this one thing until we, you know,

put a bullet in the head and it was unable to function, and we took the circuit board out or something. but based on what we hear with so like L.A. Marzuli talks about this, my friend Joel talks about this, where there's this belief that there is this creation of what you would want to call a meat sack, a biological suit that they're trying to transfer these souls into. You could do that as a reversal as well. And, you know, if there's demonic entities that are possessing humans, possessing technology, why would they not possess these robots? And for what?

I think it was like last I heard it was like, what, $30,000 you could have one of these robots in your home or something like that? I mean, that's like a car payment. I think there's going to be a lot of people that will want to do it. And the more people do it, the cheaper they get. Listen, they're half of a Bitcoin. You know, they're half a Bitcoin. So I'm looking at at this point. $30,000.

And there's a lot of people. There's the obvious questions. Is this thing going to turn on you? Is it going to twist your head off in the middle of the night? The one thing I never will grant it is the title of intelligent. I mean, it has been well programmed. It has tons of problem solving systems inside of it. But as far as artificial intelligence, I find it to be a,

an oxymoron in many ways. And the real thing I think is that this would be a way. Now, I'm not saying that Elon Musk has set out to create easily possessable robots. I'm not saying that at least outright. But as far going down the line, if there was ever a way to call a robot intelligent, it would be in some way to house a spirit, okay? for something to slip into it like a sock, you know, like it's led to be a very, very expensive sock puppet.

But that is when it would become intelligent. That was always going to be the factor missing from all of these AI discussions is that it is not us, okay? It could be an impressive piece of machinery and, you know, world-renowned coding, whatever the hell it is, but it is not us. And that is the one thing, that's spark that would set us aside. But can you imagine if Terminator is really just about us versus demon-possessed robots? It's not just robots.

It's demon-possessed robots. Damn, I don't even want to laugh because that's, that's, it's not impossible. I know. We're going to, like, need the Nephilim Blaster 5,000. It's nuts. You know, okay, listen, it's 824. We got like six minutes before we leave. Real quick, give me, give us just an update because we did the entire dogman story with you.

last time you were on, but I noticed that the video has not been released yet. Are we getting that? And after that, I want to ask you about the meadow real quick before we get off at the bottom of the hour. Yeah, so the dog, I think last we talked was that dogman trip we did. And I got, I told you about how I got charged, right? No. No.

Oh, well, no, no. Wait, no. You got charged by the, not like legally charged. No, I got charged by the entity. By the dog man. Yeah, we got that story. I thought that you got arrested afterwards. Okay, go ahead.

Maybe one day, but we'll see what happens. But no, I, that video is going to be coming. Probably in 2025 at this point, got delayed. Some other projects had been popping off. My friend, my friend Ward, actually this is the first time I'm saying this publicly. I moved my company away from film production. My friend Ward, who was the cinematographer and also the editor of our documentaries, has a production company. I said, dude, why don't we put it into your company? You do all this work.

You should be the one that profits most from it and stuff. So the world, they're going to see, what they're going to see is nothing changing. Like, I'm still going to be doing these things. It's just, I'm not going to be the one in charge of the productions anymore. So you don't know when it's going to actually come out, but it's not going to be this month. No, not this month now. Okay. Unfortunately. Okay. No problem. Hey, listen, whenever it comes out, I can't wait to see it. But let me see. So the last thing I want to ask you about is that you said you were making your way toward a spot called the Meadow that is very much like Skinwalker Ranch. With the five minutes we have left, let us know about this place that I've never heard of before and what you are planning to do.

Yeah, so there's a guy named Trey Hudson, and I came across his book years ago, about two or three years ago. And it was called the Meadow Project. And the subtitle was the Skimwalker Ranch at the South or something like that. I was like, what the heck? Like, I'm in the South what this guy talking about? And he and a research team, they're all

like former military or trained remote viewers. Like these are, like, they have a very professional way of operating as a research team. They were researching different areas and they stumbled across this one

area. It was, it's a big, field out in the middle of nothing, like out in the middle of like a forest, it's just big field. And they started tracking anomalous things happening, you know, lights in the sky, orbs appearing in the field, crypted things happening. And so they started researching this, this meadow that they call it the meadow. And there's actually two others that are in that area. And the more they did it, the more, the more weird things that happened.

So, like, Trey at one point, him and one of his partners, they crossed a creek going away from the meadow. And they both, they got split up somehow. They weren't too far away from each other. But they crossed a creek and something happens where he takes a break and he sits down on the bank of the creek. And he calls his partner over. They finally come over.

And he says, you know, look at this. This is amazing. look at this this field that I just found here. I had no idea there was another field out here. And they looked at him like he was crazy because they're like, Trey, this is the meadow. Like, what are you talking about? And in Trey's mind, he had just crossed the creek and was heading in the opposite direction of meadow.

And he has no idea how he got displaced back to the meadow. And so, like, you know, you can say, you know, did he go through a portal or whatever? But they also have entities that have appeared on thermals and things like that. But one night they were filming down into the meadow and they had split the teams up. And there was two operators on thermal cameras overseeing the meadow. And as they were looking over the meadow, there was a heat signature that appeared on the thermal that was in the shape of a cube. and so they called another two-man team over and directed them into the direction of the cube

because they couldn't see it with their naked eye and they have this on video and I've seen the video as they approach the cube you literally see two people maybe it was three walking up to this cube and as they crossed the threshold of the cube they disappeared all three of them

all three of them and then as you see it you see them all three one at a time coming out of the cube reappe reappearing. And they said that when they, because they can't see that they're going in the cube, they're being directed. They said at the point that they actually disappeared on the thermal, they said the environment changed around them. It was like they walked into something. And it was the same place that they were expecting to be in, but the environment changed. It was still, it was different.

And the way they describe it to me, I'm like, that sounds like you went into the upside down and it's like a mirror, mirror world. It's the same thing, but it's a little different. And so these are the kind of things that are happening at the me and the team we're going to be going down there and spending a week in the meadow and seeing what happens. Whatever you do, tie a rope to your waist that goes to somebody else's waist and make sure that you guys just like kind of rope along because damn, you cross a stream, you might be halfway across the world, at least pull somebody with you. That's the one thing about these places.

I like the idea about them. It would be a very, very hard situation for me to actually agree to go to one of them, but there is no way in hell. I don't know if I could handle just a flash all of a sudden. I'm alone in a very strange place. That doesn't even look like Earth anymore. I think about that shit all the time. But listen, tonight is going to be really awesome afterwards because I can't wait to rewatch missing 411 The Hunted because it's exactly what you're talking about here. those stories of people, especially in the Skinwalker Ranch area or other parts of the country,

where all of a sudden it goes quiet, like you're in a sound deadened room. And everything is gone. The whole idea of, you know, almost like predator-like cellophane creatures that are running across. Just things that, I don't know, there's a certain kind of, there's a certain kind of pattern and descriptors that are always very, I don't know. They're very common in these stories. So I can't wait to hear about that. And then we're going to have you, the Confessionals, DreamScape Warfare is going to be on, quite frankly.tv, after the show concludes. So I hope people enjoy that, and then they'll get a little bit more. But, Tony, let everybody know what you got coming up and where they can find you. And thanks again. Let's do this again before the end of the year. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me again, man. And, you know, people can find me at the Confessionalspodcast.com. Follow us on YouTube. YouTube channel is we just crossed 120,000 subscribers. So it's growing very well. And so we welcome people that come subscribe over there and keep that momentum going. But yeah, I mean, if people have,

if they've listened to me and they're like, man, this guy's talking my language. Like, I've experienced things like this. Like, if you want to talk to me about your experience, I welcome you to email us. The email address is contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. That's the confessionalspodcast.com. And, you know, I have to be. people that you have a team of people that go through the emails and stuff and you know we would love to have the opportunity to hear your story on the show uh because that's what i do i talk to people about their experiences and uh i'm the i'm like the tribal storyteller i'm the story guy so uh like sam triply talks about how uh his show is like the search engine for weird uh or no for conspiracies uh mine is

like the search engine for all things weird paranormal weird stuff that shouldn't exist that does though so i welcome people to check it out. You know, we're on Spotify and Apple and all that good stuff. Well, I hope they find you, Tony. And we'll talk to you soon. Thanks for all the time tonight. It was really, really a fantastic discussion. Thanks, man.

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