The Confessionals - New Evidence of Portals at the Miami "Bayside" Mall | Slingshot Nation

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Something new just surfaced about the Miami Mall incident… and it’s raising more questions than answers.In this livestream, we’re breaking down a Reddit post that’s been circulating online, claiming to reveal new details and overlooked evidence from the night of the Miami mall chaos. From the scale of the police response to witness accounts that don’t quite line up with the official story, we’re going to examine what’s being presented, and ask whether something is being misunderstood… or intentionally downplayed.But we’re not stopping at Miami.We’re zooming out to explore a much bigger idea, one that’s been talked about for years. We’ll connect this incident to the research of Tom Horn on Mount Graham and its alleged portal activity, the biblical account of Jacob’s Ladder as a gateway between realms, and insights from Ross Coulthart regarding locations around the world believed to function as “portals.”Are there places where the veil between realms is thinner?Could events like Miami be misinterpreted glimpses of something deeper?And if the “portal” idea has any truth to it… what does that actually mean from a biblical perspective?Miami Mall Incident REDDIT Post: http://bit.ly/3NnedJiPlease pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Big Picture Prophecy Conference: prophecyconference26.comTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMy NEW Website: tonymerkel.comBlack Diamond JoshYouTube | RumbleMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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Welcome to Slingshot Nation Live, everybody. Thank you for tuning in to another episode. We got Derek here in studio. Welcome, everyone. We're so happy you're here. Become a member. Like, subscribe. Hit the join button. We love you. We do love you. And I'm not going to make Jack go to camera on him because he's pushing buttons and he needs a break. So we won't make him stumble through that. Thank you. We're working on a new program to go live with. And because right now we're using Stream Yard. And stream yard's cool and all, but it's limited, especially logistically. And so we're working on trying to get a new program. going with a stream deck and hopefully that helps jack just be able to push buttons with everything with one hand i don't know i don't know how it all works i'm hoping for that too yeah yeah so um actually

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They call it the Miami Mall alien incident. But when you hear the details of the experiences that people had there and the theories going around and the story that came out, nothing about it screened. specifically alien. And that's why I just call it monsters. And it sounds better too. Miami Mall Monsters just rolls off the tongue. I agree. So we're going to be talking about the Miami Mall monster incident. And there's a new witness that came forward and is sharing their experience. He is saying he was a police officer, one of the first, if not the first, to arrive on the scene that night. And he relays what bizarre things he experienced. Now, it is a a Reddit post and he posted anonymously. So I'm like, take it for what it is. But it is very

fascinating. And there are weird things that happened that night. And I don't buy the narrative that it was kids with fireworks. I just, or one of the, one of the theories or one of the storylines was that there was a bunch of kids fighting. And it just when you, the biggest thing, the biggest thing of it all is the amount of police that responded to the scene, right? Like, it was, it was bizarrely. And there were black fans. There was, like, unmarked vehicles there. Yeah.

So we'll get into it and stuff. But we have a friend, a local buddy of ours here in studio. We got Josh from Fat Jack. How you doing, man? What's up, man? How y'all doing? I'm good, man. So you have a YouTube channel called Black Diamond Guns and Gear.

Yeah, so it was Black Diamond Guns and Gear. now it's renamed Black Diamond Josh because... Is it really? Yeah, yeah. I had to rename because I had a partner that did it with me for a long time. And then he ended up having to step away because he had family stuff or whatever. So now it's just me solo. So now it's just Black Diamond Josh.

Black Diamond Josh. And honestly, like YouTube doesn't like certain words. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? So that's the reason why I had to take them out of the name. I think. I think that they were trying to squash you. Did it help at all?

I don't think so. I don't think so. Maybe it's because you still talk about guns. Yeah, absolutely. You can't trick that algorithm. It reads the transcript. It's really cool. But we all go to church together.

Y'all are doing great. It's just any kind of content that I do is not liked on there. So you drum at our church. Derek, you co-lead worship, I guess. And you strum the guitar. Jack pushes buttons in the back and he can drum if he wanted to. And I just stand there and sing my heart out. You talk in the morning.

You're the one that does announcements and stuff, though. Yeah, I opened up church, but that's not worship. I want to say really quick, I'm very, very close to 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. Please, if you like any kind of firearm-related content, go to my YouTube, Black Diamond Josh, and subscribe. I'd really appreciate it. I'm right now. And it would be awesome if I hit that 100. Because I'll tell you this, I have a Rumble show, and it is called Black Dumbugger.

But I have a Rumble show, and if I get the plaque, like that over there, I'm going to take it over to a Rumble, and I'm going to shoot it live. I'm actually going to put holes through it live on Rumble. Can I be there for that? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Perfect. That's perfect.

I want to participate in this. Smile is back on Tony's face. Very happy now. But yeah, so go ahead and subscribe to his channel, Black Diamond Josh on YouTube. He's at 94,000. Yep. And so let's get him over 100,000 on YouTube. In fact, speaking of his YouTube channel, Jack,

why don't we queue up one of the most viral clips you've had this has over six million views on YouTube and before you go into that Jack I got to tell you so I got to tell people of this story because you're here when I was still living in Pennsylvania I was driving truck and I went from working out all the time to not ever working out and so I actually put on if I I think about it from the time I started, I put on almost 50 pounds. Yeah, driving and truck will definitely do that to you. And when I started, I think it was like 170, 175, and I got to like 220. My highest was ever 240, but I got to like 220 and I'm carrying a gun.

And I'm like, man, it's really uncomfortable to carry a gun being so fat. And so I'm looking up online, like, how do you carry a, how do you conceal carry as a fat guy? And his video show before we're friends. His video pops up. And it wasn't the video of people we're about to see. It was him showing his holster that he created and designed on how you can carry as a fat guy and still be effective. That's awesome. And you've lost nearly 100 pounds.

Yeah, it used to be 100 pounds heavier. Yeah. So, like, the video that I saw of him and when I first met you, your nickname was Fat Josh, right? Or Big Josh or something of that? Yeah. And because there's Big Josh and Little Josh. That's where it was. And now I call him Slim Josh.

That's what it is in my phone, Slim Josh. That's funny. But he, in the video that I saw of him, I mean, he looks completely different than he did then. But the video that I wanted people to show, or Jack to show, is one that, with like the last couple of years, it went super viral. So this one was the one that kicked off our actual website. It's called FatTack.com. And this is where we sell our holsters at. So basically, it kicked this off and just made people instantly see who we were.

And that's so funny because I was telling you all earlier, that's how God works. And I had a bunch of stuff to go through my life where I was having to deal with other companies and stuff like that. And then all of a sudden, you know, we kind of dare our own thing. So much of a legal thing I can't say. But basically, I started our own thing. And it just kicked it off. And God just pushed that to the top, honestly. That's awesome.

And he just, he made it go viral for me to cover what I need. And it was absolute perfect time. So it was all him. Yeah. So let's check out. this viral clip of it's a short that he made it's the way it starts is just awesome you're fat and so am i why are we stuck carrying three or four o'clock why can't we carry appendix oh because all holster companies make holsters exactly like this they make them for skinny guys that don't have

a freaking gut they make them like this and they stick straight up like this so they're uncomfortable when you go to sit down why would you buy a holster that does this when you can buy a holster called the FatTack Holster from FatTac.com. That allows you to carry deeper concealment so it's easier for you to sit down and have it underneath your gut and be super comfortable. You can draw with it too.

I'm going to show you how to do it, just like this. Be prepared, buy from a company that is made for fat people. FatTac.com, the FatTac holster. You're fat. It's so am I. You got to tell people how it is. And they agree with it.

And that's why they look at you. Yeah. So, I mean, basically, your company has been created to appeal to people who are overweight that still want to carry. Because, and like I said earlier, it's like when I was looking is because I'm fat and I got to carry, you know? And so I'm like, how do I do this? And, you know, you start looking around for answers. And so fat tack.com is where people can get those answers. while we have this conversation today,

we're going to be talking about portals, the Miami Mall Monsters, entities coming out of portals, all that stuff. I want you to be our resident gun expert. If there's a caliper gun that pops in your mind, you're like, oh, that'll take care of that. Just shout it out.

And if you have to work in the Nephilim Blaster 2000, I'm fine with that too, because we're still working patent pending, but we're going to be amazing. Wouldn't it? Yeah. Like I just, there's got to be, we got to create some kind of gun that's going to just blast them, blast them. There's so many things out there now.

Like, I'm talking about the thing for how they came and got that guy from Venezuela or whatever, how they captured that dude. Yeah, Maduro. Have you seen the stories of the guys saying what they actually used when they went there? Yeah, man. Like, it is nuts. We have the capability to make weapons that are. Sci-fi. Oh, dude, that you would never even imagine that we have.

I mean, the guy was talking about how he was bleeding from his ears and his eyes or whatever. Most of people just basically like threw up when they were they were just like laying there dying. Interestingly enough, we'll be talking about bleeding from your ears today. It's obviously we have weapons that can do that. Yeah. And obviously the public doesn't know about it. That's a really good point. I'm really glad you brought that up actually because the fact that you're bringing up the

that the known case that we have recently of our government using weaponry on people that makes them bleed from their ears. and eyes, and then what this person's account that we'll get into a little bit later, there might be a correlation here. And it's important for people to keep their minds open to it, because we can't verify and prove if this Reddit poster is true or not, right? But that's the case with a lot of things. But the more you keep your mind open about this stuff, and you start considering the things that are known,

like what you just brought up with, how they captured Maduro. Like, if that's true what you just said, then what we get into a little bit later here is just another piece. It's like, well, we already know that's a real possibility. So what part of this story is too far out of comprehension there? Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. So let's get into it. Because recently, within the last couple weeks, Ross Culfhart, if I've pronounced that right.

Can I just pick a Pick a bone with this for a second? I'm just going to start off I'm just going to say it now I can't I can't hold it in anymore It bothers me It bothers me man Like

These guys Like who is Ross To come and have all this access You know like Where do they get their resume to have this kind of access And he actually said it was in Tennessee right? The location

Yeah I don't think he actually actually gave the location? I thought he did. If he did, it wasn't this location, but he might have talked about other locations that involved Tennessee. Everybody talks about Tennessee.

There's portals here. We won't get into that. I actually got scolded for talking about certain portals in Tennessee. So yeah, I'll leave it at that. So that's not we don't know that? There's a particular story that kind of went viral and then I got contacted and told to stop talking about.

contact about it? I can't talk about it. That's the problem. That's the problem. Probably within an hour. I'll tell you when we're not live. But so anyways, it just, for me, it's like, okay, there's, there's always a roadmap to somebody's resume as to why they're specifically chosen that's given to us. But like, in reality, is there something underlying the surface that qualifies them to receive information over other people? I mean, if you, I'm a little biased because it's me. But if you look at, you know, resumes and people who, you know, are ready to talk about such things and go deep on it. Are you saying you're the resident like portal guy?

So you should be the one. I'm just saying. He's definitely jealous. That's definitely it. Why go after respected journalists when you have me? I mean, what does he have that I don't? Yeah, exactly. That's what I would say, too. I'll go in a blacked-out van to an unknown location that has fences going around it

that supposedly has a portal on it. Why not, right? So that's what he said is claiming. We're going to play the video. I think we have the video, right, Jack? Cool. But like, we're going to play the video of him talking about his experience with this location that he says he can't disclose. But, I mean, people who read between the lines who kind of No things are pretty sure we know what he's talking about. We'll get into that afterwards. But let's just get to, you know, the unqualified Ross, whatever his last name is and his experience that should have been mine.

Too English for you to care. I mean, I'm just saying, and that's another thing. Like, what is it about the fact that we can't have... I think his accent. People think it makes him sound smarter. Well, yeah, and that's the thing. Like, I hear that from people. it doesn't pass and they're like, you know,

like the British accent... If you're from Tennessee, you're retarded. Yeah. So that's the thing. The British accent makes you sound smarter, so they put them on TV so that it gives more clouters. It's just like people that wear glasses. I study the same thing.

I stutter too much. I can't read too good. They said I couldn't read good. I can't read good. Tennessee's rubbing off on me, you know? But, you know, we've got a lot of redneck friends, one of them right here. But I'm the resident redneck redneck you really are

I guess oh can I tell that story sure okay you know what it's around talking about oh yeah Yeah And then we'll get into it We moved down here and and we're driving around and We're going to a store for farmer farm supplies or something like that Yeah and we're driving around your truck it was me you I think Jack was with us because it was right when we first moved down here and He go and you go and you go we're going to go over to a roll kang and i was like he's like you know what the roll kang is right

i'm like no i don't know what the roll kang is and and he's like the roll kang you know what the ral kang is i said no josh i don't know what the roll kang is and he goes ah and so we we're driving and then we pull up to this store and it's rural king yeah i have a problem saying that one i think i was like what the heck is a roll kang man walking. And he's like, yeah, I guess so. But anyways, I had to learn the accent now. It's all.

The vernacular is different. I got to say, though, you shared that story with me before I moved here, and it actually helped. People respected me a little bit more when I said it right. And it rolls off the tongue way easier. It really helps. It makes a lot of sense. So anyways, let's get back on topic. Bring up Ross and his fantastic portal experience.

Yes, there is a portal. in the United States. In fact, I suspect there are multiple. Pause it. But this particular portal is in a... Pause it. He starts off, yes, there's a portal in the United States. Man, man, come on.

Like, I feel like this guy is like elementary, bro. Like, we could go so much deeper on this. And he's just like giving us, you know... And I suspect there's more portals. You suspect. Give me a break. All right, bring them back up. I'll let it play through now.

Just start it over. Yes, there is a portal in the United States. In fact, I suspect there are multiple. But this particular portal is in a highly guarded facility that is used under the US Forest Service cover. There are men with guns who patrol it. And there are witnesses who have seen what are clearly people operating with the knowledge of the US military and civilian clothes walking into literally a wall. These witnesses are terrified. I guess where he said Tennessee.

Heads up on TV, but they are happy to talk to people like me. I've spoken to people who have told me about the existence of this portal. I've been to the location. I am aware that it was the subject of extensive study by a team that was operating in the area for some considerable period of time. I'm told that there is technology that is being used to try to deaden the efficacy of the portal to stop things coming out or going through. I know it all sounds like something out of science fiction, but believe me, the United States knows a hell of a lot more about portals and interdimensional technologies than it cares to admit. And at some stage, they're going to have to tell the public the truth. otherwise it's all going to come rolling out in an absolutely catastrophic way.

What more can I say? Nothing. You can say nothing, Ross. You can say absolutely nothing. Bring me back up. Bring me back up. I knew you were so triggered. And he's like, would people like me? They want to share this information.

Oh, was it not done? No, it wasn't. Oh, okay. That's why I was like, what's going on. Oh, well, we can finish that clip in a second. Let me just say this. let's hear but they're happy to talk to me

I know isn't that he said he'd been there yeah yeah he said that they took him there and they're happy to talk to me wait who took him there I don't know

people maybe you need to know those people men with guns apparently he's like oh they have guns well yeah we have guns here we have guns here buddy surprise surprise anyways all right

yeah we won against it was done against them in 1770s that's a whole thing it's a whole thing Red coats Yeah So Jack backtrack

5, 10 seconds and finish this clip I thought we were done talking Listen to him That's my bad That's my bad But believe me It's an extremely sensitive Highly guarded

Secret military facility Don't try an access there If you're speculating about where it is You'll get killed There is a determination by the sections of the national security state that they're aware of all of this to keep it quiet, to hide it from you, the general public. I have no idea why they think they can continue to maintain such a degree of secrecy.

It's going to blow up in their face. But I'm very sorry, I can't tell you anymore right now. I'm certainly causing mischief. I'm simply causing mischief. Can't tell you anymore. Come on, man. Listen, if it's Bradshaw Ranch, which is the speculative. here, then you're not going to get killed.

You might get in trouble. You're not going to get killed. So what you're saying is, go there. What I'm saying is you're not going to get killed. I think he's just like, you know, they have guns. They're going to kill you. And it's like, come on, man. Relax.

Calm down now. But go ahead. What do you guys make of this Ross location of a portal in the United States that, you know, like we again I'm just going to repeat myself here for the hundredth time on this episode I've been talking about this for a long time but like there are portal locations throughout the world man and and yes where you're talking about sure one of them but there's there's lots of them lots of them and yes Josh Tennessee is a place that has portals portals oral so what do you what do you make of that what is your thoughts there I just want to

if it's part of the disclosure, like, rollout that this is going to be an aspect of where these things are coming from and where they're going and what their purpose is. It's all going to be part about these portals, how they've always occurred. I mean, these are naturally occurring? I mean, are these scientifically built? I mean, they are removing into an area where there's science to create portals, which is maybe something we see in Miami Mall. Yes. So, you know, like all this, how they reverse engineering, all this stuff. I think it's all part of the alien agenda that they want to push out. This is why they don't pick you because you have a big mouth and you like to tell the truth. And they need people that will

follow and tow the line and say exactly the lines they want them to say. So that's exactly what he is. He's just saying exactly just enough to let us understand that these things are real, even though you've been shooting from the route. Go ahead. Before you irritate me, Derek, by telling me I run my mouth too much. No, but I, I, I agree with you. I do. And also, like, you mentioned about the alien agenda, right? I think they're saying alien agenda, even alien agenda is a compartmentalization to frame narrative moving forward for the mass population. In reality, if you're going to actually be more accurate with what they're doing and rolling out, it's the supernatural agenda. They're rolling out the reality. They're rolling out the reality.

of the supernatural right before us but they're framing it through the alien agenda so they can control the narrative of how supernatural how sci-fi it actually gets if if you actually hold a supernatural worldview none of this stuff that we're talking about is surprising it's been written down uh in scripture non-canotical and canonical uh writings all throughout history and um and it's just that it's just them framing it a very specific way to achieve their specific goals. If they're reaching a point in time where they know

that they can't keep the supernatural realm under wraps like they have throughout time, then their course of action would be to filter it through a very specific thing so that they can control

the narrative on the masses. And then dopes like me on the outside of that filter are just going to be like muffled for the most part. You know, because they bring in the Rosses and all the other people to talk about it, but they walk that line.

Right. They're going to make it very scientific. So they're going to come across and say it so well and use science words and big words that confuse regular people like us. And then that's the whole point is so that they can control the narrative. Because I think you're right. It is a completely a supernatural realm that they've possibly been keeping secret forever. I've heard from people saying that basically they believe that they're going to come up with this whole alien. you know, thing to talk about

while that being the reason why the rapture had taken place. Do you think that's a possibility? Oh yeah. Yeah. And that's another one. Dude, in 2017, when this disclosure, well, let's just say 2018, because it was towards the end of 2017, October 2017 when all this started. But in 2018, I was part of

a group chat with a church. and I told, they were not. They totally not on board understanding whatsoever. And the idea of it came up in the group chat, like, have you heard about this?

How ridiculous? And I was like, well, actually. I remember specifically saying back then in that thread, I was driving my truck to work and I was doing voice text and I was getting on 422 from the San Antonio. I know exactly where I was when I said this. And I said that this will be

used as the reason why the rapture took place. Wow, we're no longer here. Why we're no longer here. Given an explanation why I'm no longer here. And you see that narrative just being massaged over the last several years where now it's Christianity, Christians aren't willing to accept the reality of aliens and what they're really here for. And this is starting to be pushed, but it will be accelerated at some point dramatically. But it will get to a point where these enlightened beings have come to save us and help us as human beings ascend to the next level, their level. And those who buck against it, religious people, will be removed.

so that the body of humanity can ascend to the next level. And so they're creating this narrative already so that when such events happen... What I think is hilarious is that people, you know, religious people or whatever you want to say, is basically everything that you read about in the Bible is very supernatural. Yet they're like,

this is fake. This is you know Hollywood. This is sci-fi stuff. This isn't real. Like dude, everything you read in the Bible is supernatural. What are you talking about? The stuff that happened is absolutely supernatural. You think that was just regular time? No.

See how they're doing this layered piece where it's like, okay, they're bringing in the supernatural. Yeah. Right? They're bringing it in because they probably have no choice. But the way they're bringing it in is actually excluding those who have been saying the supernatural. So through their own definition, definitions, it excludes us who have been talking about it for so long and actually makes us the bad guys to the point that they've even said that Trump was supposed to release the UFO files. And the only reason why he hasn't released these alien files is because of fear of the Christians, the reality of it, I forget how they're phrasing it. Out of fear of what it will do to the religious base like Christians and the reality of what they'll be facing.

with. In reality, what they're doing is they're taking the very group of people that will properly define this, and they're making them the reason why they're not releasing it. And they're saying, oh, we're protecting these people. In reality, we don't need protection. Like, if you have a supernatural worldview as a Christian, you don't need protection from this. You have a supernatural World View and the foundation of that supernatural worldview should always be looking at the North Star Jesus Christ himself focusing in on him. Yeah. Like that that is the remedy and the pathway through all of this.

You're not, like we're not caught off guard. Right. I hear that and I hear we don't have our narrative right to basically fool all of you yet. So we're going to work on our narrative until it's just so, so that Christianity can be fooled. Yeah. You know what I mean? And they're just piecing it together. as they go.

Yeah. And seeing what works, what doesn't work. That's definitely coming. That's definitely coming. There will be plenty of people who will be fooled. Talks about it several times throughout scripture. So, yep. But who am I?

We just believe the Bible. So, but, we're the crazy ones, right? We're the crazy. We're crazy. They're coming. And the government's like, yeah, they are. It's like, oh, now it's not crazy. Got it.

Cool. Got it. All right. So there's this aspect that Ross is covered now where it's like we have, he is saying that he's been to a portal location and that portal location being run by the government, it's super secret, you can't go there, this, that, and the other. And we have been talking about this for quite some time, different portal locations. I have covered it on the show several times.

Then there's people like Tom Horn who has talked about Mount Graham, which is out in Arizona. And I know you were looking some of the information up as far as the location and what that means for other areas. But there's also within scripture itself. Actually, let's start with Mount Graham. What do you got on Mount Graham? So, right. So Mount Graham is where the Vatican, took over. It's a super holy mountain

to the indigenous people of that area. And the Vatican took it over so they could basically create the telescope Lucifer, which they now named Lucy. Oh, great. And they're basically looking at the stars and trying to find what's going on

where we're at in the time frame of God, Jesus returning. So, like, it's so interconnected to this whole spiritual place where, like, the gods come. And then, of course, they put a telescope named Lucifer on it. It's on the 33rd degree parallel. Of course, we know that that is also super high, spiritually overtone. Make the mention about, talk about what with Mount Herman and Jesus.

Oh, yeah, yeah, we can go there. So if you follow the 33rd degree parallel all the way into Israel, it actually goes right through Caesar Philippi, and which is at the foot of Mount Hermann. So we're saying that the 33rd parallel connects Mount Graham to Mount Herman. Correct. And Mount Hermon is where we thought that the fallen ones originally descended, correct? Like that is where they made foot, they put their feet on first. So when we were reading in Matthew 16 that Jesus arrives at Caesar of Philippi and they basically is telling Peter because this is when Peter first tells him that he he's the Christ. You're not a prophet. You're not like just a regular of the Old Testament kind of guy. You are the Christ. You are the Christ. You are the Messiah. And what he ends up telling Peter is as they're standing in Caesar Philippi, Caesar Philippi is actually known as the entrance of hell. It's a gateway to hell.

This is where they worship the God Pan. And so Jesus says the gates of hell will not prevail. And so that Greek word could actually mean like a portal to hell. It is a gateway to hell will not prevail against the church. And so it's so cool because we're like talking about portals and Jesus has already kind of mentioned it that like these gateway to hell will not prevail against the church. Yeah. So no matter what's coming at us, man,

like Jesus has already spoken about it. Quick question. If you found a portal, would you jump through it? No. No. Like, even like you found one here in the mountains, Tennessee, wherever. No.

You found one. You wouldn't be just like poking your head through to see what's up? That's Tony of like three years ago. I've learned my lesson in some cases and I've learned my place in this equation. And it's not to push the envelope. in that manner. Would you at least throw a rock into it?

If I literally came across a portal, I might throw a rock in it. Hopefully it doesn't get thrown back. But no, I just... Are you here? Hey! Like, I would need the voice of God to say, go through there, you know?

And I'm like, okay, now God, I need you to prove it's you. Like, I would need some serious confirmation to transcend realms. That's a big, big, big. deal. And it's definitely something that happens. What if you think that a portal just is just like a not a portal. Maybe it's maybe it's a veil of like something to hide an opening to a certain base or something like that. What if it's something like that? Well, I mean, if, okay, for instance, this guy's talking about he's had people that's seen people walk through this wall basically. Yeah.

What if that's not necessarily a portal? What if it is a just a entrance? to something like a military base or whatever it may be. So like a door. To hide the opening. What if that's what it is? I mean, if I just know I'm going to be staying on Earth in this realm, I'll find.

But, you know. I'm just saying the guy's never been through it. How does he know it's a portal? Yeah. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Just could be technology. If they don't,

I mean, the technology that we have, like we said with the bleeding in the ears and all that stuff, like they have all this crap that can totally change, you know, obviously that. How do you not think?

think that they would have something that would be a cover for an entrance. No, I got you. We're talking about Stargates. Like, the things that we saw in the movie Stargate. So let's just, you know. Yeah. And then we had, like, years ago, he's dead now, John Edmonds. In that episode that I did with him, he talked about these alien beings coming through a portal in his home on Stardust Ranch.

And if I remember correctly, it was something like, almost like coming out. out of the wall, you know, and he had like this samurai sword. He would chop them to pieces. When they, which I wish he was still around and I could talk to him more now as who I am today versus back then, because I have a whole different perspective on things. But like this idea that people have where if it's, if it's coming from another realm and if it's coming from another realm, then it can't be physical. That's just not true. It's not true. And when you can when you can come to grasp the not a grasp because i don't want to say i even grasp it because i don't i often say i i lack the words to to say what my gut is telling me uh which drives me

nuts but if you can come to accept the fact that if something comes from another realm here through a portal manifest or whatever that it can be physical here like very physical it opens up a whole world of concepts and understanding that you wouldn't have the ability to process otherwise. Isn't that what Scott Carbender mentioned in his book, The Quantum Bigfoot, where basically like frequency, like in the other dimension there could be a different frequency and they learn how to vibrate and manipulate the frequency into our realm so that they could be as physically as they were in the other dimension. once they hone in on the frequency in this dimension that they could be physical in this dimension too? Yeah, that specific thing, I don't recall, but the concept, yeah.

And if you want to go there, these cryptids and stuff, I mean, I 100% believe that they're not natural. Now, I think that they have different origin points, but no matter how you cut it, even if it's a remnant of something ancient, I don't think the origin point of that was, natural. And so I think that these things do

pop in and out of existence. And Scott documented such cases essentially. I miss that guy too. I miss that guy too. Well, even like what he was saying about the portals, they said they saw entities coming in and out of the portals.

So it's clear that there's something physical to them coming still even in and out of the portal. They're still visible if they're a dark shadow that's absorbing light or maybe they're even more physically doesn't describe that. But there's a physicality to our realm that we can perceive them. So, like, there's definitely some already aspects of physicality that we're understanding

that as they can see these things entering and exiting the portal. What's interesting is that there's accounts of beings coming out of portals, like John, for instance, who then they were so physical, he was able to chop them up, right? and then there's other situations where things come out of portals or manifest and they seem to have other physical attributes. They're not totally physical like we recognize it being physical, but they're there, but it's not what we understand it to be as far as natural physical. I was just going to say, did John ever mention like any of the, was it like biomechanical? because that was something that we had talked about before was that, you know, the reverse technology, what is it called? How do they say it? Reverse engineering?

Reverse engineering. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Like, they were reverse engineering alien or whatever, making an alien like meat sack kind of thing. Like, could that be possibly what he was cutting up? Because it could be like, you know, something was portaling into his room or to his house or his ranch because they were the government or whoever was creating a portal specifically. to his house with this meat sack that wasn't actually a demon or a fallen angel or an entity or anything. It was just physical that they created. So you're saying like the government

themselves manifest creating a portal and what's coming through the portal. Right. Because I mean, we're talking about like the possibility for them to have that type of technology and the technology to make people's ears bleed and all this stuff. Obviously it's there. Right. Yeah. That's like that's my point is could it have been something that wasn't actually like a fallen angel or or entity or anything. You know what's crazy is that I'm looking and this Stardust Ranch episode that I did is so old, it's not even on YouTube.

Really? Yeah, because I had a stretch where I was uploading back archived episodes, and I think I got down to like episode 90. So anything beyond past episode 90 isn't on YouTube unless it's like it was a special upload or something. So I know I did it though.

It's somewhere out there. I was just pulling it up because I was going to try to pull this transcript and answer Jack's question. But no, no go. So I've been doing this a long time. But, okay. And Ross over here. Yeah, Ross. Ross.

Gosh, Ross. Okay, so Mount Graham connects to Mount Herman. There's also the Bradshaw Ranch, which is also. on the 33rd parallel, right? Is that what you said? Stardust was. Oh, Stardust was? Yeah, Bradshaw made like a triangle in Arizona. It was north. Gotcha. In Sedona.

Just real quick. If anybody is curious, episode 43. That's how long ago it was. Episode 43. Wow. That's wild. And you're at what now? I don't know. I really don't know. That's like 800 or something.

847. 847. 847. That's crazy, man. It's wild. Yeah. It's anyways. So you also said that there was, Derek, there was something like 75 miles north of Mount Hermann

or something like that that you were talking about. Oh, yeah. So that's where Jacob has his dream. That sound effect is him going through his role decks. Yeah, I was going through. Yeah, I was going through. It was like, find him foul? It was not Abraham.

No, it was Jacob. So Jacob basically, and it's cool, it's interesting that they say in the Hebrew when he finds the stone in some of the old rabbi teachings, that it was a stone where the altar was made for Isaac. And so he took one of the stones at Mount Moriah and he sleeps on the stone. And that is where he has the dream of the ladder, which we understand, of course, from like ancient aliens and all that. They obsess over that.

But basically where they see the angels descending and ascending from the heavenly realm. And that is not on the 33rd degree parallel. it was 75 miles south at Mount Moriah, which is where the Holy Temple is now located. So, or not yet, but the remnants of the Holy Temple. So the, speaking of Jacob's Ladder, though, that's another portal location. And like, I think we make it, I don't want to say it diminishingly, rightfully so. You know, we can talk about the 33rd parallel and stuff, but it's not like, the rule like all this stuff has to be on the 33rd parallel this stuff is i mean for instance i

mean they talk about portals being in uh Alaska uh the bridgewater triangle which is in like new england uh there's there's a lot of triangle locations we were just talking about earlier today and bermuda triangle the uh in arizona if you take the locations of star dust ranch bradshaw ranch and uh mount graham forms the triangle and so like there there there's different locations, but Jacob's ladder is a location that is specifically in Scripture, again, supernatural worldview, that talks about this ladder or portal opening up and beings, angels, are ascending and descending, is how it says in that order. They were ascending and descending. And even when Jesus talks about angels, he talks about them going up and then down,

which, you know, isn't, again, the rule, but it does give this idea of comfort in my mind that angels are here with us and they go and report to the big guy and then they come back. And ministering angels is a very real thing. But if you could talk about the Hebrew word, or did I not tell you about that? You told me about it. The Salem or Salam. Salam. Salam. Yeah. And it's like the only place in the Hebrew Bible that, that that word was used for ladder, right?

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't mean much else. It's like highway or things like that. It's hard to break down. I'd have to have, like, a Hebrew scholar look at it. I thought that's what you were. No. Get out. Get out.

I hired you for one thing. But really interesting correlation, though, is we know that the enemy always, like, mimics everything, right? And it's interesting, even I was in Peru, and we were at the, in, not Machu Picchu, Cusco, and there's all these like ziggurats, right? And it was like, it was the ladder that descended and ascended. And so a lot of these ziggurats are actually in places where it went down into the earth, which is why I make the parallel to like Jesus saying the gates of hell. Because I think there's that mimicry of staircasing down into the pits of hell, where these portals, these at these portions of the earth, where these entities can be more viable and come through. Yeah. What do you

think about that, Josh? I think it's absolutely crazy, but also great. Which is cool. Crazy and great. Maybe the ziggrats are fun all around. It's like, you know what I'm talking about. Those little squiggles. But they're like

carved in the bedrock of these places. And so it's very evidently that like it's very intentional where their place and how they're placed because it's representation of a staircase into hell. Or them coming up into our area. So we see Jacob's ladder, like, invertly, into the fallen realm.

Mm-hmm. You know. So, like, our realm is the middle ground. Ladder goes this way. The ladder goes that way. Well, there's a ladder that goes down. I just think a lot of people don't actually understand. Like, they have no conception of, like, something like that actually being a thing.

Yeah. And, like, the normal person that is just going about their day, goes to church on Sunday. Here's the good news. Whatever, you know, like. Yeah. They don't think about that. They don't think about anything like that. Unless you're really diving.

do it. Dude, it's hard. It's hard for me to think about it. Like, it's, it's so, there's so many layers and complexities to this. Like, you'll, you can spend your whole life trying to understand it and only the fool thinks he has it all figured out. Yeah. The, with the, the latter idea that, this portal of going up and then going down, the, if I, if, and I'm not an expert on this, but the shaman's view trees in a similar vein. They actually, when they go into the astral, they travel through trees because the roots of the trees go below the earth and the trunk of the tree

and the arms go up. And so they use, like, trees themselves as like this highway to travel. Ingring point. And our earth is like that middle ground. And so, and I think it's something to do with the Kabbalah tree to life. too or something like that. Sure. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, that even goes into like the whole bigfoot aspect where like there's that old cave painting and it's big foot and then there's a giant tree and there's like a portal in it and it looks like a keyhole and there's like a big foot outside the tree. Yeah. So I mean there's that correlation to these aspects.

There's this place in Colorado I think. It's a resort and one of the legend. I think I don't get me. I don't know the actual location, but I heard about it. I think it's on some kind of resort. Sounds like a need to be a trip. Yeah, right.

I'm not hunting portals, man. But the local legend is that a bigfoot manifests out of one of the trees. Like they know exactly the tree that it is and supposedly a big foot comes out of the tree. And again, it's like, okay, so

the trees themselves serve as a portal of sorts, a manifestation point from somewhere else. And it's just, it's, it's, it's all this stuff is just, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's so, it's so everywhere, it's hard to kind of like, bring it all in and be like, okay, this is what it is. It's like, it's, it's a little bit of a lot. Yeah. And that ties back into like the Asherapoles in the, in the Old Testament, because that's actually translated not as a pole, but as a grove. And so there was like sacred groves they would go to, Bohemian. You know what he mean?

And then they would be able to then interlink, they would begin to interlink the spiritual realm on these mountain tops where these groves were. And they would do all kinds of debauchery to summon these entities to them. That sounds familiar. Yeah. So so far. You know, with files and stuff being released. And it just sounds familiar as all the same. It just sounds familiar.

So I want to move into the Miami Mall before we do, Josh. considering all these portals and things coming in and out and all that stuff, what are you using first gun and choice to blow the head off? Honestly, like, I know it's like a really fun thing to say, but, dude, I've been really big, big and digging into shotgun lately. Yeah. I honestly, like, obviously, you can't carry a shotgun like every day. Like, I mean, you could, I guess, if you really wanted to. But most people carry a true Tennessee.

But most people carry a pistol, right? And, you know, I carry, you know, just a nine or whatever. It's a clock 19. But basically, when you're looking at something very big or something that you need to take down really easily, obviously you want to go with the biggest, you know, thing possible. And honestly, like, if you really think about it, like a 12-gauge shotgun slug is like 62 millimeters or something like that. Like, it's bigger than a 50-Cal or right at it. And so, I mean, that's massive.

And people don't think about that. Like, there's, there's, there've been people about there that that put, uh, videos out of them actually putting a 50 cow round in a shotgun and shooting it. Really? Yeah. And it absolutely destroys a shotgun. But the, the thing is that the 50 cow round actually goes in, in the barrel of shotgun. I mean, it's, it's a big round. And it's very, very versatile.

Uh, I was, I was getting ready to do a video about home defense and stuff like that. And I really think, like, I've always used my pistols, like my first go to. That's what I'm grabbing off the nightstand, right? And, and then obviously, like, you have your AR-9s or even your regular AR with your suppressor and stuff like that. You'd have in the, you know, in the corner or whatever. Mainly, if you use a suppressor for self-defense or home defense, you want it so that you don't deafen everybody around you, right? Like, that's the reason why you do that. But anyway, if you're looking at home defense with a shotgun, shotguns with, you know, the right round put a lot of pellets out there.

You can get something like a, I can't remember if it's double-out buck or buckshot. I can't remember. But basically, Buckshot has like at least you can get nine pellet buckshot. And that's like putting nine 30 caliber pellets into somebody's chest that really everybody thinks of shotguns. Monsters. Oh, okay. Monsters. But basically.

This is why your channel. Exactly. But basically the spread that they're talking about, they're like, oh, you just pointed down a hallway. It's just going to take everything out that you possibly look at. You actually have to aim. with it. Like, it's not as widespread as people think. But, I don't know. It just depends on what you want to take down. I guess would be the question. My question is, could you modify a slug to have, like, say, anointing oil or

holy water or something in there? Absolutely. Pray over it. Pour some on top of it, yeah. I mean, I got silver bullets in my truck. Just for that. Just in case. Jack, toss me that bullet on the table there. He can do it. You can do it. There we go. Don't blow off. That would be crazy. I ever think about that? I think about it all the time. When I drop bullets, I'm like, oh, please don't go off.

But they need something to project them. So if they're not in like a chamber or something, they're not going anywhere. They would just... Good to know. Yeah. Good to know. So catch. Yeah.

This actually supposedly... I say supposedly, I believe the guy, but... Because I don't... I wasn't there. Killed a dog man. Oh, yeah. So this is what I was talking about. Remember, I'll talk to you about that episode.

So this is a 45 long cult round. Mm-hmm. And, yeah, I mean, that would go in a judge or whatever. I'm assuming that's what he was using was like some kind of... Sounds familiar. Like revolver type that they call the judge. And or I think the other... Smith & Wesson makes another brand of it.

I think it's called the governor. But anyway, this is a... 45-long-cult. And that is a very nasty round. Don't point it at me. I still don't believe you. I don't believe you, man. Yeah. But anyways, dogman killers.

So shotguns. We got up on us. I'm telling you, dude. Okay. At the right range, right load at the right range, as Clint Smith would say, you'll need a shovel to pick that up. That'd be seriously. That's what would happen to clean that up. So we covered all these portal stuff because the Miami Mall Monsters has popped back up in the news to a certain extent.

Shout out to Sam Tripley from Timfoil Hat. I think it was, I think Saturday night. I didn't get it because I was sleeping. Like 2 o'clock in the morning, he texted me a link and he's like, this is crazy. And I was like, dang. And so I told him I was going to talk about it on the show today. But I don't know how vastly wide this has reached yet.

But it's essentially a police officer who is or a person claiming that they were a police, officer arriving to the scene that night and what they experienced. And we'll get into the details here. We'll read or we'll take turns reading or something, some of this stuff. It was posted on Reddit, and it was about five pages of this anonymous post. And it lays out all this detail of his experience. But what we suspected back then, along with this story now, points to there being some kind of portal that opened up and these things were manifesting through. And it makes you wonder if the government has their hands on this when we know that they are working on. opening portals at other locations. And, you know,

according to the magnificent journalist, Ross, you know, totally qualified. That's why people talk to me, Ross. I say those things that's totally expecting him never to watch this. It's probably an avid viewer who watches it all the time. People like me would drive him mad. I'm very hard to something for some people. He said, bro, king.

but the suggestion that the government has this one location on lockdown, well, why is that? Could it be that they're using reverse engineer technology for other locations such as the Miami Mall? Is it something where the Miami Mall has a very specific geographical landmark or anchor point that allows that portal to open? Or is it that they have mechanical, reverse engineered devices that they decided to test at the Miami Mall. See, what my mind goes to is what was happening in the news or whatever at that point? What was happening at that time? Because we know they do stuff to try to distract you from what's actually going on. It was January of 2024 when the Miami Mall happened. Right, Jack? Yeah.

and about eight months before that in April of 23 we had the Vegas UFO landing situation in the backyard and both accounts have a lot of similarities to certain extent but the way people describe the entities that they saw in the mall could be obviously the mall. is a wide open space. It's something that's in the public, some that everybody's going to see. I think it's an outside mall too. Yeah.

So it's like, why would they do that right there? And it has to be. It might have been a, it could have been, if it was done on purpose through human agents, it could have been a test run

and why the Miami Mall, the open mall, like when you take the percentages, most malls that are called malls are indoor, most, right? So was it just sheer randomness that they picked to,

do a outdoor mall or do they need an outdoor mall for what they were doing? It's so funny. Everything I saw on it was, oh, these people were fighting as like a brawl or whatever that was going on the whole time. And that didn't show anything other than people running around at night time. And you're thinking like, that's exactly what that is.

I mean, that's a fight. That's something, somebody maybe even popped off a shot and everybody's like taking off running like cockroaches. So that's what it looked like to me. And then all this other stuff came out. And it's like, Well, I don't think so.

All right, I'm locked and loaded. You ready? I'm ready. Okay. So a couple of really interesting occurrences around then is, one, they said there was a giant power outage in that area at the time of this going on. Also, 30% right? Yeah. Of Miami?

Yep. Which is run by a nuclear plant in homestead. So I'm from Miami. So I've actually been to this mall. It's very open. And what's really interesting is that it's actually, there's only one way to get to it. And that's why it might have been chosen because it's all waterway around it. Really? And there's only one road. Really? Yes. There's only one main road, Ocean Highway,

that goes right up to it. That's where the Miami Heat play in Kacer Arena. It's the same. It's like a block away. And so it's, there's no access point. So they could totally like, like, if they're thinking of a tactically to block off an area, this is a perfect location, high traffic, high foot traffic, but they could control the narrative and block off the waterway. They could block off the roadways and they could totally isolate this because there's no ins and outs. They would know the only ins and outs on land are up and down the main road. Yeah. And so also there's the Miami Circle, which is an ancestral Nephalum double circles spot, which is only a block away at where the river intake comes in right in downtown Miami.

Wow. So you have an anchor point of an ancestral, ancient, like burial place possibly. So you already have that spiritual, like, connection there. And then who knows how that's all interconnected? But, I mean, there's a lot of probability for why this was chosen the way it was. It's wild. That's wild. I mean, there's been so many people who will talk about.

In fact, Scott Carpenter, his location that he had a lot of experiences in where... It is portal related. I mean, we know where it's at, and it's on a peninsula where water rushes right around it. And you know what's crazy about that, too? It's near a buried underwater burial mound. Yes. Right here in Tennessee. Right here in Tennessee.

Yeah. And so you take all this stuff, and again, we've got little pieces here and there, and we're trying to put everything together. that really, I mean, what you just shared could be a big reason why that was the position and point that they chose. And we're already assuming that it was engineered and manufactured and it wasn't just, you know. Out of nowhere. Yeah, out of nowhere randomness. So let's get into it.

You have the PDF, right, that I sent you? Yes, I do. Okay, cool. So I have like a summary of what happened that night. And I'm just going to start reading it because, like, there's so much. detail in it that it's like, I don't want to miss any of it. So it says here, the officer opens by stating he was responding a responding officer at Bayside and has never told anyone the truth, not his department, not even his wife. He only gave her the official cover story, drunk

teenagers, fireworks, and mass panic. And that's what I remember. Yeah, that's exactly what I remember. Yeah. And it's like, when, I knew I was going to do this. This is going to be a while that we work through this. I know it is. But when you, when you take that into account, now, I'm not law enforcement, never been law enforcement. I don't know, right? But from what I remember, the response that I saw on video of the police was so like, we're live on air, Derek. We're live on air. We are live on air. It went down the wrong way. Gosh, man, you're ruining the show. Stop coughing. I I don't cough. I don't sneeze on my show ever. I don't poop.

He's a professional folks, I'm sorry. I went off my best I could. You're good? You sure. Yes, I'm good. You got your back? I'm ready to read for you. Don't tap in yet.

And so, so where was I? Not pooping. That's what you were doing. No, I was talking about something else. I got distracted. What was it? The response.

So the amount of police that responded. I, at the moment of it was like, that seems like an awful lot of police officers responding to. There was tons. Like blocks. So many. Yeah. And what we're going to see here is that he talks about the police response and how the

police response that he experienced, this officer was not. Not what we saw. Not a normal police response. Oh, okay. Like, I almost get the sense that he didn't recognize the officers who were actually responded. Oh, wow. And so, anyways, he was already downtown that New Year's night when the first 9-11 call came in.

Now, what you guys listen to this? A woman was ranting about people collapsing in the food court. Dispatch kept calling it a disturbance, but something about the dispatcher's voice was wrong. Too calm, too slow, didn't match the urgency of what was being described. Both he and his partner Torres noticed it independently. they joked about it, but the joke didn't land. So, what are you working into this story, if you're hearing this, what do you make of these two officers who are making note to each other how the dispatch

seemed off? Because to me, it gives me a sense that even them being called to the location was part of a setup, It was part of the engineered story, or not story, but the engineered situation. Yeah. Like, could it be that they were part of the target? So you have the mall being targeted, but then you have these officers who are also targeted and who they talked to on dispatch wasn't actually the dispatch. Because you have all these other police officers showing up afterwards that he said,

seemed a little off. So how deep did this go as far as getting them there? Was it something that was random? Was he just so happened to be a block away? or was it that it was planned for him to be a block away or whatever it was? I think it was definitely something that, the amount of people that you see there is insane. Like literally, if you watch the videos, like, it's like 50 cop cars.

And you're like, or more. They're two rows deep. Yeah, they're side by side. And you're like, yeah. What do you need that many people there for? Well, I mean, obviously a lot of stuff we see now is like, you know, mass shootings and stuff like that. You need, you know, police to come to. That's just a lot of people is all I'm saying.

And for them to be like, oh, it's just a fight breaking out. Like, that's a lot, dude. Yeah. That's a lot for a fight and somebody to be throwing some fireworks. Although I lived in Miami, that's just another day. Yeah. Dude, it's just another day. Especially down in here, if there's a game or something going on, fireworks going off.

Young people wrestling, like, causing problems. That's just another day. Yeah. So that's really abnormal. Very abnormal. And also. And I'm sure that people have a certain urgency all the time. When they're doing a call or when they're trying to say, hey, you know, having an officer respond to something.

I'm sure they have a cadence that they speak of when they, you know, when they call somebody in or something like that. Yeah. I'm sure they have that cadence. And if it seems off, like, they're just, they're going to make a mental note of it. Like, if you have an urgency for this all the time, then you don't have an urgency for this. Obviously, something's different and you can tell it. Yeah. I agree.

And I remember, if I remember correctly, I should say not, I remember, if I remember correctly. The, one of the images that appeared online back then of something seemingly really weird, walking down the steps and on the sidewalk. It was in front of all those police officers. And one of the things that, like, there was explanations like, oh, it's just a grainy footage or whatever. But, like, one of the things that I thought was odd, if it's like, why are the police not responding to this?

Yeah. Like, it seemed like they weren't responding to it. Well, as we're going to see here, one, maybe the police, what we experienced on the TV, were not normal police, and so their response was not normal, but also with what this whole situation is, maybe those there and present were not experiencing what we experienced through the video. Sure. Because what you see as a story goes on, the more bizarre people's reactions were that were there. So, no, and I think as we get into it too, I think we'll understand that there's the time lapse that I think we're not shown either.

I think we're only shown like the end of what happened or like certain specific edits of the night. So like the fullness of the story I think is hidden from us as well. Yeah, I agree. As they got closer to Bayside, the city went quiet. Another key detail to listen to. Not a normal New Year's lull. Is there a New Year's lull?

That's something I was like, you know. Not that I know. Yeah. Is there ever a lull on New Year's? It's usually crazy. Yeah, like until the sun comes up. Yeah. As he describes it as, he describes it as sound being physically removed from the air.

When they reached the plaza, he saw kids running, but not screaming. Some didn't seem to know they were running. Others were frozen, twitching, eyes wide, mouths open, like they had forgotten how to scream. So, like, as he's approaching this, it's like he's. Actually, so I had an episode, just not too long ago, Jack, if you could pull it up, if you remember. It was a police officer. He was in Canada. And he drove through a portal.

And the way he described it was like he drove into like a portal bubble. Like he, I feel like he even said he could see it as he was driving into it. And he entered it. And then when he came back through, he went through it again. And so like he had this like literal experience where he's having this shift happen. right? And I can't remember all the details from his story, but what he's describing here, do you have that, Jack? Yeah.

What episode was that? 822. 822? Yep. And what was it called? Cop drives through portal bubble. There you go. Very simple.

See? You made it easy for Jack. Sometimes when you don't know what to call an episode, you just call it the obvious. Easy to find. How can I click bait them? Well, let's just tell them what it is. But it seems like what he experienced here is maybe something similar where he's experiencing, as he's approaching, he's experiencing this transition point where now things are not acting like they should be. And it's almost like he's in transition of this portal that he's entering into.

So we think the portal that we suggest here happening at the mall was something that was isolated, like maybe within the mall. but maybe the mall itself encompassed a portal. Like maybe the portal actually encompassed the mall, I should say, and was like a bubble. A portal bubble around the mall. Yeah. And so as he's entering, he's having these weird experiences with the sound. Like he says, when they reached a plaza, he saw kids running, but not screaming. Some didn't seem to know they were running.

Others were frozen, twitching, eyes wide, mouths open like they had forgotten how to scream. So some didn't even realize that they should. be screaming. Some weren't screaming. Some forgot they forgot how to scream. So there's just a weird transition point for the further you get into this physically. It manifests differently.

He says, Torres went ahead. His partner, Torres went ahead. The officer hung back near the crowd's edge. Now you're going to hear the officer because we don't know who this guy is who posted this. That's when he found the first body. A young man

mid-20s slumped against a pill like he like he simply sat down and never got up hands covered in blood but no visible wounds the blood appeared to have leaked from the skin itself eyes open not blank he describes it as looking like the man died mid-thought still somehow present wow so like you were talking about earlier about Maduro and the technology that we we know exists through current events yeah and the people on scene there saying this was something like we never experienced this before. And so if our government we know has that, if they're being, if they're testing this stuff out and they're doing, they have this reverse engineer technology. Tony and other people would say

Fallen Angel reverse engineer technology. If we have that and they're going to test it, before you go to use it in action, you're going to test it on people. That's why I think that when it comes to the Tick-Tac UFO. Tick-Tac UFO, 99% in my mind was not something of extraterrestrial origin. I think it was our technology, and we were using it on our unsuspecting pilots to see how they operate around something so extreme and unexpected. And so I think that's what we see a lot. Just trying to test their boundaries to see what they would think. To see what they would think, but also to see how an unsuspecting, highly skilled pilot

reacts to that in their presence so that when they actually use that in war, they know and already can predict how the enemy will react to it so they can counter it. It's a chess game. Yeah, for sure. So, Jack, you looked over here. Did you have something to say? You're good? Okay, cool.

The moment, let's see, where am I out here? Describes looking at his thought. Okay. The moment he radioed for backup, his comms crackled. Again, another signifier that he's in a transitional point. things are not operating as normal. The high, the high pitched feedback tone started and wouldn't stop.

He felt it physically in his jaw and teeth. So he's hearing something that he's feeling physically. I can tell you from my experiences, I've never been at the Miami Mall and had things jumping out of portals at me. But I've been in Washington State hunting monsters, Bigfoot, and I'm at the scene of where Wes had his dramatic Bigfoot encounter. Part of his story is that he's sitting in his brother's SUV and they start hearing a low, guttural growl that you could feel in your body.

I'm there, and we're getting ready to get on. We only had one cameraman. Ward was already on the RV. Me and Joel were the last ones in line getting on. And we are about to board, and we hear this. very low, guttural growl, and we felt it in our bodies. And we were like, it's right there. It's right there. It's right there. And we went to the back of the RV. We peered around the corner. Didn't see anything. Yeah. But it felt like it was right

around the corner. It was crazy. So like I've kind of felt this, this physical effect of hearing something and not just hearing it, but you feel it in your body. Um, Torres's voice came through distorted saying something like, don't come up here before the feed died completely. I'd be terrified at that point. He's like, I'm not gonna, Torres. I'm not gonna. No problem. Then he noticed the storefronts. This is wild. Or he was like, did he, did he, I think he said don't come up here. Yeah. I think he said he got it. He's good. Go back in the car. Yeah. Okay, it sounds good. Get a coffee. Got it. Duncan, here I come. then he noticed the storefronts

every single one was covered in a fine film like freezer condensation but wrong patterns were forming in it swirls and spirals resembling math symbols he describes them describes them as fingerprints made by something that didn't have fingers

I don't know what to make of that that sounds like something straight out of like stranger things yeah I mean I mean that's all I can think of when I see But, yeah. And, you know, everybody watching, I don't know how many people we're watching right now, but everybody watching it like, it's because he made it up and is from stranger.

But what I will say, I think is really funny is that he didn't care to name his partner's name. No, he did. Torres. I know. But he's anonymous. What do you mean? This guy's anonymous, right? Yeah, he's anonymous.

But he didn't care to name his partner. Well, we'll get to that part of the story. It's why he doesn't mind naming it. There's a reason for that. There's a reason for that. Slick doggy, and he's thinking ahead. Well, what I will say, though, is that, like, we know that frequency also has its own patterns. So you ever see, like, where they do, like, sand and they hit certain frequencies,

it begins to create its own, like, linear patterns and stuff, too. So if it is technology that has a certain frequency and it's changing atmosphere pressure, it could easily start creating patterns that would look like symbols and stuff. If you were to lay sand out on the table, like you were saying, and you literally hit this certain frequency, it literally does different things. point. That's a really good point. Jack, pull a video of that. No, I'm just kidding. Don't do that. I'm just, I didn't want to put the pressure on

you. But if you feel like pulling a video up that shows that, go for it. Probably easy to find, honestly. Sand vibrating the frequency. And you'll probably find it on YouTube. But we'll get a strike for that. That's the question. For that one. Never mind. Just use your imagination, friends. Jack,

stop searching. But, yeah, just stop searching. It's fine. I think everybody can figure it out themselves. But that's a really good point, though, because I'm sitting here reading this and I'm thinking, I'm trying to make sense of that. But if you're talking about vibrational frequencies, transcending realms, which frequencies are very much involved with, at least on our end of things, if we're trying to transcend mechanically, creating our own portal devices, frequency very much involved. And so the fact that those patterns that he described, because he's, what do you say, it was like, mathematical symbols, is that what he said? I can't find myself. But like, so it's like, if I saw math, I'd be like, it was four plus four on the window. Right. But he's like, it's mathematical symbols, which tells me that it's, it's more symbols than math. And he's trying to make sense of this. Swirls and spirals, is what he says. Swirls and spirals. So he describes that the story. storefronts and that whole scene on the windows. And he says the people still inside the stores were no longer panicking. They were just standing still listening to something he couldn't hear.

So I'm trying to picture that in my mind as to what that looks like. You're standing and you're seeing through this weird glass that there's this vibrational thing happening, which he didn't say you said, but now it's making kind of a little bit of sense. It's making sense in my supernatural mind. could the people inside the store be experiencing something that has to do with those swirls being some kind of frequency? Because he says that they're listening to something he couldn't hear. Which makes me think, too, is if he's a police officer and he shoots a lot of guns, could he have tendonitis in his ear and he's got bad hearing?

Is that like something where like the frequency? Oh, yeah, man, it's definitely a thing. Yeah. Josh's like, I'm not even police officer. Between playing drums and. And firearms, yeah. It's definitely a thing. Like, I have Tannitis all the time.

Yeah. Literally all the time. What's really? We'll get into that later. Okay. Cool. But I just wonder if, like, maybe that's why, like, it wasn't affecting him. Yeah.

It's because he had a hearing issue, possibly. Yeah. This idea of vibrational frequencies, though, as you introduced to this, though he didn't say it, would make a lot of sense with all of this. The, the patterns, but also the fact that he observed them, that they were listening to something he couldn't hear. So it's like, this whole, almost like a bubble within the bubble. We had this like portal bubble that he

entered into, but within there, there's all this activity happening with individual, like, it could have been like literally individual bubbles within this thing. We don't know. It's just wild. So anyways, the standing, listening, listening people are described further. One woman was mouthing silent words, smiling like she was praying with blood pouring from both. ears. Again, the blood pouring. And what is it with this idea that... Dude, I'm telling you, that takes me back to that dude talking about that thing. And, where was that, Venezuela? No. Oh, yeah, yeah. Maduro, yeah. Dude, that sounds exactly what that is. Frequency and that, how can that not be what that is? Like, that totally makes

sense. Well, there's probably a whole host of weapons that they have that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, like that, the connection there is, is undeniable. Yeah. No, absolutely. I'm glad you brought it up earlier. We didn't even plan that. So good job, Josh. That was good. You've earned your keep. Come back next week. Just kidding.

Don't be here. Anyways. We won't be there. We won't be here. You know what's funny. What? So Maduro was captured on the third of 2026. Do you remember what?

That's what it was. The third of 20206. I knew there was something that happened right in the beginning of 20206 when I was talking to Larry that we couldn't name the date on. That's what it was. You're right. You're right. How crazy is that? Yeah.

And do you remember when Stranger Things the final episode came out? New Year's Eve. Yeah. And you know what I'm going with this? Go for it. The supersonic weapon that they used to stop L. and her sister. Yeah. The last episode.

Of course, they foreshadow that. Yeah. All right, we're done. Stranger Things totally redeems yourself. Just when I was out on the show. Golly! Yep. Okay.

Good connection, man. We're all clicking on the right son to this. This is great. Calm down. All right. That's crazy, though. That's crazy. That's nuts.

That's crazy. The fact that they put that in there, and then, what, three days later, it plays out in reality. Now we are, I'm literally getting lightheaded right now. I'm getting lightheaded right now. I don't know if it's because I stood up too,

fast or what? Like, I'm short of breath. That's how excited I am right now. It's not a good time for me to have to host this. Ooh, man, the connections are undeniable. Yeah, for real. All right. Where are we?

Okay, blood pouring from her ears. That's right. He starts towards the escalator when he hears a deep droning sound. Again, my goodness. Organic, not metallic or mechanical. And possibly low and large for any human source. It was coming from inside the floor, not below it, inside it. So are we talking about, so he says not a mechanical device, but could it be something that was installed in the mall to allow this whole droning vibration?

Because he's like he's literally bringing frequencies in here now. Droning sound. And so he starts towards the escalator when he hears. a deep droning sound, organic, not mechanical, impossibly low, and large for any human source. So again, going back to West at Sasquatch Chronicles and his experience hearing this impossibly low growling sound that vibrated into his body, I experienced that. So like, again, we got this frequency, low hums.

And if you're talking about beings and entities that know how to do these things and can't do it themselves versus us people who are nefarious and can't do it ourselves, but we create technology to do what they do naturally. It's crazy. Yeah. So the lights flicker and dim. Everything shifts and like a deep, like a depth trick where your eyes adjust to darkness and suddenly register a shape that was always there. The air goes heavy, his bones hurt. I don't understand that. Yeah, that's a lot. Everything shifts perceptually, like a depth trick where your eyes adjust to darkness and suddenly register a shape that was always there. I don't get that either. It's probably like when you go in and you ever run the woods and then you turn the light off and on real quick and it's like so bright and then

your eyes have to quickly adjust. It's probably like something like that where like perception and depth perception are like must within the moment. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So then he sees something. He's careful to clarify he didn't see the 10 foot alien that others described. What he saw was the space around it. Again, try to wrap your mind around some of this. Light activity actively avoiding the spot where it stood. Space bending. around its presence, gravity seemingly confused by it. Wrong proportions, but not in a size way. Wrong in something more fundamental. Its movement wasn't fluid. It skipped like dropped video frames here, then further forward, then further still, with no transition between positions.

It reminds me of that episode where that entity came through the window and it would like... What episode? You're the one that's going to have to remember. but it's... What are we talking about? My show? Your show. Yeah.

There's an entity that comes through the window and it looks like a clown or something. And then, like you said, when it moved... Episode 17. See, I told you. Episode 17. And then it starts framing almost. Yeah. Yeah.

You're right. Episode 17. Jason. Yeah. He had... It's touching Bigfoot, I think, is what we called it. Look good up, Jack. And just verify that.

But I'm pretty sure it's episode 17. And he's actually a native to Tennessee. And he... And, yeah, anyways. But he lived in an old farmhouse and this entity appeared to him and flickered different images. That's what you're talking about, right? And one was Fred Flintstone, right? Yeah.

Yeah. And so, like, you're talking about like entities. And this is not the first time that, there is the first time, but it's not the last time that that idea arrived on the show. Entities transitioning images to the audience, the person, until they, they, find something that's recognizable and familiar and comfortable with. So like the another one is episode 78 I think it is a guy named Ryan. I can't remember the name of that episode but he said that his his toy soldier like military soldier was standing on the end of his bed but it wasn't that because it was way too large.

So it was like taking the image of something he was comfortable with. and presenting itself as that. So yeah, that's a really good point, Derek. Dukted with Lost Time episode 78. Boom. Boom. I'm telling you, sometimes the recall. The recall is incredible. I know.

At one month. And yet I can't remember all the other stuff, you know? I think my hard drives tapped. I need a new hard drive. Neurlink. Yeah. Neur link. I think it's a good idea.

I think you're on to something. I'm gonna sign up for that. Six G's on its way. Is it really? Yeah. Oh, wow. Man, we just got 5G. 20, 30. Really? Yeah. All right, that's next week. Just had it. Yeah, it's crazy. Wow. Hey, we should do a Slinghot Nation next week with Bo.

Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah. We'll record with him. Anyways, back to the program. At one point, he thought there were two of them. Then he realized he was perceiving it from multiple angles simultaneously. He has no explanation for how that's possible. So during this flickering, he's thinking that he might be seeing multiple,

but it's now he's like, he thinks it's the same entity that he saw from multiple angles simultaneously. So the only thing I can relay this as is like something that's, um, teleporting. That, I mean,

also you think about light. Like you can, when you have like a, like a strobe light effect or something like that, stuff like that looks like it's moving in frames. Right? There's a lot of light and stuff going on around that time. I mean, it could be frequency, could be light. It could be anything making that stuff move like that.

Wow. We got a crazy theory. Please. I wonder if the sound is what drew the entity. Like, there's certain harmony, harmony, like pitches that we don't understand. And that it drew the entity in because of the frequency that it was putting out. Oh. Mm-hmm.

So that that certain tone that was released drew the entity right to that place. Yeah. Just like there's certain sounds in heaven in certain, like, ways, chimes, all that, the oom. You hit the frequency, and if you can just move past the idea of portal, the frequency, because, yeah, portal, transition point. Same kind of idea, yeah. You got this frequency, and the frequency itself, could it be that the frequency itself is what's calling these entities in, and the entities themselves are manifesting the portal to come through because they can already do that? Right. It's allowing, that's why like the change in the atmosphere is allowing the realms to merge. That's why you see like the patterning out on the glass is that the area that the dimensions are merging with the frequency allowing them to step through in that spot.

Almost kind of like a warping. If you look at, you know, if you can take pictures and, you know, warp them into like, you know, by putting, what do they call it? Like Photoshop stuff. You know, you can warp stuff into like looking at different ways. It's a possibility. It's wow. All right. Let's get the Torres because this is where it gets good. If it's not already good, are you not entertained? Tours then comes stumbling down the escalator, pale, wet, stain down one leg. Somebody peat their pants. Won't make eye contact, I wouldn't either.

With whispering on repeat, it said my name. He suddenly claws at his own neck, rips out his radio, and smashes it on the floor. screaming. I won't answer it. I won't answer it. Two men enter. Black coats, no patches, earpieces, unknown badge. They don't look at the bodies at all. One point said Torres and says flatly, he's not viable. So now we have these other, quote unquote, officers coming into the scene and picture. So like what we were talking about earlier, that's going to start unfolding now, this idea of other people, because he didn't say that they looked like reptilians or anything. They It looked like officers or men coming into the scene, but they're part of this scene.

They're not like him, which goes to this idea that could it be that him and Torres were actually called there, just like maybe your theory, the entities were called there. Could it be that, wow. Could it be that the entities were called there, but not only the entities, but other people were called there for this event to happen and unfold. Absolutely. And I'm treating this like if this was real. It's a Reddit post. know if it's real. And this would be the

MIB, the classic MIB. Yeah. But it could be. It could be. Crazy is like, they had that stuff right in plain sight. Yeah, men in black

was absolutely hidden rotten plain sight. Like, I mean, they just put it out there just so you can see it. But hey, you know,

it's all Hollywood, right? It's, it ain't real. For sure. Listen, let me just say this. They're going to get a PSA. If this officer

happens to watch this, please, bro, put your name on it. Like, contact me. We, I will, I will talk to you. But you have to be on video. I swore off the whole blurring people's faces out. Not doing that ever again.

So you got to be on video. But, golly, how cool is that being. That'd be crazy. Anyways, before the officer can draw his weapon, a third man, he never saw. Enter, enter, grabs him from behind. One of the other, and one of the others. injects something into Torres's neck. He goes immediately limp,

no spasms, no resistance. The men tell the officer they are his superiors. Other cops arrive and confirm it. The officer stands down. Okay. One of the others injects something into Torres' neck. Okay, so the third man.

So before the officer can draw his weapon, who, what officer? Are we talking about Torres is going to draw his weapon? Maybe. Or was it one? I guess he would have said Torres. So probably, I guess, one of these other officers. Read it again.

Before the officer can draw his weapon, a third man he never saw enter, grabs him from behind. One of the others injects something into Torres' neck. He goes immediately limp, no spasm, no resistance. I mean, it looks, it sounds to me, like Torres would be drawing his weapon to stop these people coming up to him, whatever they're doing.

And then the other guy, before he can actually he has a chance to draw it, somebody grabs him from the line. Or could it be one of the two officers that came in seemed hostile? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay. But then, okay, so the men tell the officer they are his superior. So

we have these men coming into the scene and telling this poster, this officer that's posted this, that they're his superiors. So the chicanery of other people involved in this event is happening and unfolding here. So if you think back to what we saw in the news and the whole event unfolding, like that, could it be that all those officers that we saw on the news were part of this part? you know which if they were then it would would it be easier then to have this as a narrative that

that's pushed because everybody involved was on the same page I don't know yeah um they tell him he has he has one chance leave through the east entrance and don't look back uh walking out they passed roughly 20 people standing like the dead upright but gone. The east entrance is that, I mean, you said it's surrounded about water, basically, right?

Is that where there would be a way to get out or is that where the water will be at? So if you see in, I think that's like the back side. Yeah, that would be towards the water side. I'm just wondering if there's no way to get out there while they tell them to leave toward the east entrance. Yeah.

There was like a loop around the back and there might have, he might have parked like in the pull-in. Well, they probably weren't. I mean, given the context of the story, they probably wouldn't be too concerned about where he was parked. They would probably be telling him where to leave according to what they want.

And you're saying the east side would have been towards the water? Yeah, it would have been. Okay. Well, we're going to keep going there. One man's eyes are, now he's walking out. So let me just start this over. Walking out, they passed roughly. 20 people standing like the dead, upright but gone. So I don't know if they're dead or not,

but they're just like zombies essentially just stand there. Like mummies. Is there a body count? Body count? Nobody died. It was just teenagers doing stupid stuff. So nobody died. Hmm. Um, one man's eyes are bleeding down his cheeks. Again, another is biting his own hand hard enough to tear flesh. Not one of them looks away from from the center of the mall. So they're fixated on the mall itself. It's like to me it sounds like something got their attention and they got frozen in time like a mummy.

And the guy biting his hand, I mean. That reminds me of like a, you've ever been in pain or something like that and you're biting down on something? Yeah, that's what I was just gonna say. Yeah. Like if you're feeling something and you, so visceral that. Yeah, that frequency is so intense, just like, mm.

Yeah, I need to feel something else. else. Wow. In the food court, he passes a girl, maybe 10 years old, cross-legged on a table, no shoes, humming quietly to herself, blood on her face, holding something in her lap, also covered in blood, completely calm. Like, it's like he's, he's relaying bizarre scenes that seem like they're all independent of each other. but part of this this large grouping of an event. Going back to this idea of different portal bubble scenes unfolding inside this one large event, it's the more I'm reading this, the more I'm convinced that this is some kind of technology that was used,

if this is true, it was some kind of reverse engineer technology in a, in a public, what's the word, I'm looking for, experiment. Yeah. You know? There, you got something? It's just crazy how much... Do you guys remember the story in Iraq where they found... There's a story of like two...

I think it was Marines. They went underground and they found like a fallen angel chained up. Do you remember that story? So that wasn't Marines. It was Henry Groover who had... And maybe it's the two different stories, which is even better, to be honest with you.

But his name was Henry Groover. I think he passed away now. he was in his 90s a few years ago, but he was part of an intercessory prayer team. And one night, he was taken astraly by God to under the ancient streets of Rome. He found himself walking down an ancient staircase to a prison cell with a fallen, with an angel that was chained up. He had this exchange, and then he came through to his bed, and he called his intercessory prayer team and asked them specific questions. and they all had verified. I forget how it all unfolded,

but there was this verification that they were all on the same page. They all were given something that night that led him to believe that what he experienced he actually experienced. Is that what you were referring to? No, there's actually a story. Maybe it's just Reddit lore, who knows.

But it's two soldiers go down and this is in Iraq during the Iraq war and they actually found like a chained, fallen angel under the ground. And so they enter in. and then the angel's able to like speak to them to where the one soldier ends up self-harming or like hurting himself yeah self-delete yeah self-delete and uh then the so basically like the ability to like mind control because what you see here a lot is like they're self-harming

they're like losing the consciousness of themselves so i just like it's just interesting to me it relates a little bit into that entity aspect yeah if there's entities there that they can kind of like overtake people's will to some extent. Yeah. Wow. That's really interesting. Yeah, that's crazy. I think it's Henry Groves or Henry Groover.

I can't remember his last name. But I'm pretty sure he, he was friends with, I think, L.A. Marzuli. I think L.A. Marzuli or Steve Quill, one of the two. I think it was L.A. Morsal, because somebody was telling me recently, I think it was L.A. Anyways, so this officer, he gets outside and vomits. His body is shaking. He tries to radio in dead channel what? That's exactly what the Maduro thing is.

Yeah? Seriously, like all of that stuff. Falling down, vomiting, blood from the ears, blood from the eyes. I'm so glad you're here. Because I don't know if I ever would have considered even thinking about the Venezuela Maduro thing. And that is a, that is a, like, verified account from one of his security guards that was there. And that was fighting basically the Americans. Well, trying to fight.

Well, trying to. He said they came in and basically like within a matter of minutes. It was not even a question. And it wasn't like they were overtaken by an amount of people. It was just that they had this weapon that was doing this to everybody was there. And then the people that they did have come in, which were a short amount of people or a small amount of people, were just able to do what they need to do like that. Man, I wonder if this Reddit post is true, we could have experienced a couple years ago the rolling out of a test that was then,

Absolutely. Later used, or at least a piece of that technology later used in that operation. And it being so crazy that people were just like, this is aliens. Yeah. Yeah. But it's really just the weapon that we were trying to.

Which goes to what I was saying in the beginning of the show, this alien agenda should be called the supernatural agenda. It's much more than just this one filtered thing that they're trying to say it is. Sure. That's wild. The high wine is back under the static. Like, he hits the panic code twice. Nothing happens.

The air outside doesn't feel right either. So like, what? I'm just thinking like... But if they're using this frequency to do all this stuff and make people bleed from their freaking eyes. Yeah. And vomit and all this are stuff. You don't think that that frequency would absolutely distort

all of their communication equipment? Oh, yeah, for sure. Absolutely it would. For sure. For sure. Which, you know, in Maduro's case, do you recall hearing them saying comms go down? Yeah. Actually, yeah. Wow. I think we're cracking the cage, boys. There's no way for them. Actually, yeah, he said there's no way for them to communicate with each other. Like, it was a whole thing. And yeah. One of the black coat men follows him out. Unmarked Matt Black Vans are rolling up with no plates. Do you guys remember seeing Matt Black Vans on the video? Blackout? I just remember saying a bunch of cop cars.

That's what I remember seeing. One of the vans hisses as it stops, hazmat suited people file out carrying what looked like Geiger counters and oversized defibrillator type devices with cable restraints rather than medical leads. So it ain't defibrillators. No. I mean, could we be talking about some kind of like

restraining devices that they that were used to, restrain what came through? Or maybe, or could it have been something that was used? Could we be talking about a trafficking situation as well here? Yep. Absolutely possible. To detain people, basically more than what's actually happening. All things are possible at the confessionals table. He asks where EMS is.

The man says there were no injuries. He pushes back. there are bodies in there. Same answer, same flat tone, there were no injuries. The man then produces a small sealed foil packet and tells him to dissolve it under his tongue immediately. When the officer hesitates, the man says, you've been inside, you're contaminated. This will stabilize you. Derek, actually, let me, you brought up a point when we were looking into this early before we went live. I want you to bring up, but let me just read this part. He takes it. It tastes like copper and dirt. Nausea hits instantly, then passes. Everything feels fine, but a specific wrong kind of fine, disconnected. The man calls it the filter setting in. He uses phrases the officer can barely retain amnesiac bleed and outside of your perception, then tells him to go out of his sight. So you, found something interesting when we were looking at this earlier.

I can't remember. It's something about gold dust or something like that. Well, so the, just wrong Pentecostals. We got to bring the Pentecostal in this. So there is gold nanoparticles. That's what was. I was half right. They bleed between the blood barrier of the brain.

So if you want like quicker access to the brain and there's other metallic aspects, like dissolving things that could actually help. So it detaches your emotional memory in the moment so that you won't have a strong link to memory itself because a lot of our memory is linked with emotion. Like the way you felt on the truck and you instantly remember the day that you like message your buddies at the church or whatever.

Like right, it's linked to emotion. What are you talking about? You mentioned that earlier. In the show, yeah. What truck? When you're driving semi. Oh, yeah. I don't remember what you're talking about.

It's fine. Let's just keep going. Anyway, I was like, yeah, I did use to drive a truck. But what are we talking about? What are we talking about? I don't know. It doesn't matter. Go ahead. But I can recall episode 17. I don't know what number it wasn't. But anyway, that the emotion

is really important in the aspect of like retrieving memory, because that's what helps us hardwire that memory in. And so there are certain metallic like medicinal things that we can help to alleviate and remove. move the emotion in the moment.

So, like, that could have been something to help wash away his memory, essentially, is all I'm trying to say. Well, I mean, that's basically what this was. It was something that he took to what it was like a memory wiper. Men in Black are here. So let's just go to the movie Men in Black. They had the light zapper. This was, like, basically, what are those breath mint tabs that you put on your tongue?

Altoids? No, no, no. Listerine strips. Listerine strips. That's what I'm picturing when he's talking about this. He puts it basically a listerine strip on his tongue, and he's like, oh, I don't remember what just happened, you know? But he does remember what happened.

Well, yeah, he does. Yeah. So, good job. What? He does remember what happened, though. Yeah. So it didn't work. Well, it worked.

It worked initially. Josh, you're ruining my story. I'm just saying. No, he says later he talks about how he gets patches of memories. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. It's coming up.

Gosh, Josh. Sorry. I'm going to detect him over here, I guess. I don't know. Mr. Let's take everything literal. The officer looks back at the mall. Lights go out one more, one by one, more vans pulling in. One has cages in the back.

Again, that goes to whatever they were carrying in that looked like defibrillators with like those strapped things. It was probably to detain either an entity or people. Well, they use a, if they're not, they use. they use like zip tie cuffs basically is what they usually use so what probably wasn't for people they're they're arresting the interdimensional travelers and putting them in cages aliens in cages maybe maybe we should put a big a t-shirt like that an alien in a cage the membrane thing you were talking about earlier a lot of that came about like a you ever done like a coo-couf test that stuff either they were saying that back in the day like well one

that was happening, that if you push that thing so far up in there, there's a memory back there that goes between your, you know, you're the, and I guess where your nose is and what your brain is, basically. And they always said that when you're doing that, you're basically touching that membrane and it's always released. That's why a lot of people wouldn't do it because they're afraid that, you know, other places were putting stuff on it.

And then when you put it up in there, it goes into your membrane and all this stuff. He has no memory of driving home. He wakes up at his kitchen table, folder open, pen in hand. already mid-signature on a document full of legal jargon he doesn't understand and doesn't remember receiving it just felt inevitable to sign it so like he he has this like listerine strip that takes him on this like trip he doesn't remember and between the time that that thing was given to him to the time that he waited something happened where he had other interactions with whoever yeah and he's now signing you know his rights away essentially

the next day, Bayside is fully open, no tape, no blood, no broken glass. Every store front pain replaced. Zero evidence, anything happened. The news that night ran, minor fire causes evacuation at Bayside Marketplace, no injuries reported. They aired footage from earlier that day, normal crowds, normal plaza. He calls, listen to this now. He calls Torres' number, disconnected. goes to his apartment.

Someone else has been living there for months. He goes to his sergeant the next morning, asks about Torres. The sergeant shares a beat too long and says, you mean Torres from traffic? The officer clarifies, Officer Marcos Torres. Patrol.

His partner a few nights ago. The sergeant frowns, you've been solo for the last month, since Morales, Morales, transferred out. So, like, he has now this experience where he enters the bubble, has this bizarre experience, exits the bubble, and reality literally shifted around him. And so the partner he once had doesn't even exist to the point that the place that apparently he's been to before, the apartment has been occupied by somebody else for so long. So, like, we have this, like, literal paradigm shifting.

and what he's describing here and what we experienced in reality with the story, where does that match up? Did we experience some kind of paradigm shift around that story that we don't recall? And now all of a sudden we're talking about Mandela effect again. Well, if you look at the guy, obviously Torres got hit a little harder than what this other guy did, right?

I mean, because he was walking out, peeing his pants, slamming his radio, all that stuff. If he had something more crazier happened to him, don't you think they would definitely be suppressing him?

And this guy over here is just, you know. Well, Torres might be dead. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he could have been affected more by it than this guy is. And if you're on the theory

that I had earlier about them being called, summoned, I'm spitting all over to place. Sorry about that, Derek. I do it more often than I admit. He's excited.

um but uh torres uh and this officer just like the the frequencies calling in the entities could they have been called in as part of the experiment and so because torres went sideways they got rid of torres and if they if this was all a controlled thing from beginning to end the entities, the people at the mall, and those two officers, they wouldn't have that hard of a time of placing a substitute at Torres's apartment. Right. You know? Yeah.

And if that guy's been out of it because he took whatever they gave him for a month. Like mentally been out of it, you know what I'm saying? Like he wouldn't know what was going on for a month anyway. Yeah. What guy? The guy that took the thing. And that's what they said about. He said that he's been solo for a month.

Yeah. He's been solo for last. He's been solo for a month. I mean, he could have been out of it, physically, mentally out of it for a whole month and not even remember what's happening. The officer says nothing. The sergeant claps him on the shoulder and tells him to take a few personal days. He just nods. That's pretty much where it ends.

But I don't know. When we just went through that Reddit thread, and if we're going to take it and give it credence, you know, because we don't know if it's true or not. but from what we do know as far as portal locations, Ross, the exceptional journalist that that's why they would talk to him, Colthard, and take him there, apparently. Apparently take him there too.

He talks about the government having access and lockdown portal locations. Now, he said in that video, in fact, Jack, if you could queue up that Ross video again, because I might need you to pull that up and play it again, Because I believe he said that they were trying to dampen the effects of the portal or what was coming in and out of it. So what did he mean by dampening? Are we talking about using frequencies on the portal?

But say they have that access to that location, right? And you have other locations like Mount Graham, which was fought over by NASA and the Vatican because, who was? It was the natives that it was the natives that didn't want them building the telescope of there. And why is it that that location was so necessary? Could it be that these locations that are supposed anchor points with portals are also being studied and reverse engineered so that they can take something that's a natural piece of creation and manipulate it and use it to their own means wherever they'd like. Yeah.

And that brings me to the Malaysian Airlines flight that went missing. Oh, yeah. I'm just saying, I believe, I believe it, baby. Give me those three orbs and the portal and I'm good. That's crazy. I mean, the fact that it is a known thing that it was here and now it's not here, it's like, there's a record of it. Right.

There's a really flight log record of it. Yes, this plane went out. No, it didn't come back. We can't find it. Where'd it go? they said they found parts of it but they didn't find any actual defining parts that would say it was from that flight and so yeah i don't know but you have uh you have that aspect where it's like we we know these locations exist and could they have reverse engineered the location itself

into a technology that they can use well when you look at maduro thankfully you brought that up and the fact that we've had that we have that on record that we've used weaponry that seems just sci-fi. Yeah, sci-fi, yeah. I mean, good luck with your guns on that one. Dude, that's what I was bringing it up to a friend of mine the other day. I was like, if they have, first of all,

if the government wants to get you, they're going to get you. They're going to get you. Like, that's just how it is. And everybody's like, oh, I'm going to fight back. Yeah, okay. You can try to do that for sure. No problem. They want you.

They're going to get you. I mean, that's just how it is. They have weapons that you wouldn't even possibly think of it. But I am the biggest Second Amendment person you could possibly think of. So I think that you should have everything that they should have. But I'm telling you. What about nukes? What about him?

Should we have nukes? I mean, why not? I love it. He's like, why should not have a nuke in my basement? Why should, I mean, well, the country as a whole. But anyway, that's a whole other thing. But I think that you should absolutely think that they're able to use stuff like this. It's obviously on record that it happened.

And I think that it's undeniable that they would have. stuff like that that's going to make them victorious over the regular people. I mean, obviously. Victory will be ours. Good. I'm not saying there's no hope. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there's a hope. I'm just saying... No, you are. It's okay, though. It's all right. This is the right channel for that. Yeah.

We have power even over the gates of hell, man. We got this. But at the end, there's no hope. For those who aren't in Christ. It's true. But if we read the same Reddit post you shared with us, there was actually another account that came up a couple pages after you stopped reading. And I'm just making fun of him. That's okay.

And what happened, what the guy says is he actually got out of work at 630. It shows up to the mall around like seven-ish. And he's like, I'm going to shop really quick and look around. And so he's at the second floor shopping for a handbag for his sister. And then that's when everything goes down. So like time wise, like what would, what would, was your first like interpretation of when this event occurred? Was it back then?

Yeah. Was it the very night of New Year's? What do you mean? Like when did the Miami Mall incident occur? It was the third of January? No, it was the first. Oh, it was January 1st? Yeah, 233.

So what's your question? So was it on the 31st into the first or was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 31st into the first. So I'm just saying like from this other report, he showed up that night, it wasn't. reported until midnight or whatever. So he's showing up at like seven.

So the whole, like the whole event occurs. And then later on, the edited version comes out. Yeah. That's what I'm saying is like, like this other report, even this is the fact that they put a timestamp on when he arrives and when everything happens. All of a sudden, that shifts my perspective a lot because I'm assuming it happened at midnight. But there wouldn't be kids running around the mall at midnight. The mall wouldn't even be open at midnight. I remember all nighttime video when I saw it.

So I wonder what time it actually gets night time there in that time in January. Yeah, it's like around seven. Is it? Yeah, because it's like, yeah, it'll be dark. But that's what I'm saying, like that perception to me of like New Year's, you instantly think, to me, I was thinking midnight. So it looks like it was roughly around 1130 on New Year's on New Year's Eve. So what all I'm saying, late evening, early morning. So there you go.

Why would there be all that, all that people? all those people there at that time. Exactly. The mall's closed. Is the mall closed? Yeah, close up the hours of the mall. It's a Bayside Marketplace.

Yeah, Bayside Marketplace, see when it closes. I want to know. Because if the mall was closed, then all the people that you see that are part of this were, quote unquote, actors. Well, or the narrative's different. Like, we get the narrative at the end of the event. Yeah. We don't actually have live event stuff like that on record.

Does that make sense? So there's like hours missing. We need a vibe board for this. A vibe board. There's hours missing between like seven. If this other Reddit guy is true, he shows up at 6.30, which makes sense. The mall still open, right? 7 o'clock.

People are there. People are running around. Kids are playing according to all these accounts. And then when they're actually getting finally reported, it's closer to midnight on New Year's. So to me, I just, I wonder like there's hours missing. Yeah. And so there's tons of time for cleanup. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Wow. Looks like the latest that closes is at 11 p.m. But I don't know. That's on Friday, Thursdays. Friday Saturdays. And what time did the event happen at 1130?

Yeah. So 30 minutes after the mall closes this event. And they said that this happened at 1130? Like the event happened at 1130? That's about what it's what it said. The news is what you're right. They said that the news was basically breaking that is happening. They broke it at 1130.

So they might have kept it under wraps for a couple hours. But New Year's fell on a Monday, January 1st in 2024. Which means that it was 10 p.m. was when it closes. To an hour and a half afterwards. Suspicious. Still, it's New Year's though. So, I mean, like, there's going to be people out. And the power outage and the airport closing.

Yeah. And everything else. the controlling narrative. Yeah. Yeah. So Jack can take his, well, there's going to be people out and cram it. Well, actually. Yeah.

So when you were describing all that, I got distracted because I was like, oh, man. On my phone, I have YouTube up. And the next video is talking about these green fireballs that are falling from the sky. Have you guys seen this? Just a few days ago. over Texas. It's on video. Dude, yeah, I've actually seen someone from Ohio and stuff too. Yeah, so Ohio

was one of them. And they're saying it's comets? They're saying like it's asteroid cometry or whatever. But then apparently it happened again. Green fireballs are letting up the night sky across America. We might need to talk about that next week.

Yeah, I saw the one meteor that people were talking about how it actually, it looked like it moved. Yeah, moving around. And then it like explodes. I'm like, bro, they shot a missile out of the air. That's what I was thinking. That's what that crap looks like. That's exactly what I was thinking. We're talking about missile defense. Interesting. See, I'm already, I'm already thinking supernatural. I'm like, see, that thing moving around the sky, that right there is a fallen angel, boys. We are in a war right now. That's, that's, that's,

that's what my mind, my mind went to. So let me tell you, uh, we're here in Tennessee. And I, I'm not saying this because I believe it's going to happen or I wanted to happen or anything like that. But I will be honest and I'll say when I was still in Pennsylvania, I was driving down to 76 going from North Philadelphia or northeast Philadelphia towards King of Prussia. And I can't see the city. I'm too far away, but the city would be on my left-hand side. And I had this like waking vision that happened in the truck. And I don't have too many of those. But it felt so real. And I just saw. fireballs coming down out of the sky over Philadelphia and the whole city is just on fire and

exploding. And it was one of the first things that spawned me to start dreaming about moving to Tennessee. And that was probably 15 years before I did. Wow. And it was one of the things where I was just like, I need to get on the other side of those mountains. I need to get further inland. And And it's crazy how everything works out because I wasn't thinking about that when I moved here. And when I moved here, I was strongly thinking about Nashville because of what I do, you know? And seeing the mountains coming down here in February of 22, I was like, man, those are beautiful. I never made my way out to Nashville. I was like, Knoxville.

And then I'm talking to him. And he's like, I'm telling you, man. Got to move to Marable. And I was like, there's no houses of Marable. And there's like, there's a reason for that. I'm like, that doesn't help me, Josh. Yep.

But now Marrival's getting too big. Too big. Too busy. Too much traffic. That's a whole other video. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't, I don't,

I don't want to say it's prophetic. But just seeing what the, what's going on in the world right now in Philadelphia is on the top, I think, 10 or 15 list of cities that would be targeted. by another country. And also just being local there,

I mean, if you think about, if you're trying to rip the gut out of a nation at its core, people often think about, you know, in Washington, D.C., the capital. Well, Philadelphia used to be the capital. It's where our country started. It's where the Declaration of Independence was signed.

It's rich. And if you're trying to take a country out at its emotional knees, Philadelphia could be that. And so thinking about that stuff, I was like, we need to get as far away from these things as we can. And you move next to Oak Ridge, which is... We'll just call it divine, my friend.

We'll just call it divine. Because moving here and stuff, it was divine. There was a lot of things that I didn't know that I do know now that has shown me that this is actually not the place that I chose, but God chose for me. Sure. So, yeah. So what do you guys think is the most likely scenario then for,

what actually happened. For what? For, Miami Mall? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For how about that? There's so many different theories. You guys had so many different theories.

Like, is it government that utilized the portal area? Did they know that they were calling in aliens? Did they, you know, run an experiment? Don't choke. Was it actual entities? I don't know. There were like so many different theories. I think it's all the above.

See, I was going to say that. See? Because it's all, it all is kind of like connected together, in my opinion. I really think that. So I think it's all the above. Mm-hmm. That's what you think? I think it was specifically chosen. And I think, yes, I think it was technologies.

I think we've made a pretty clear connection, at least from this Reddit post. Which we can take absolutely seriously 100% real. Yep. It is online gospel, right? Internet's forever. But, yeah, I think there's technologies. I think they summoned entities at the same time. With technology that was reverse engineered.

Yeah, that was reverse engineered. I mean, where do you think they come up with the technology to do that stuff in the first place? Fallen Angels. Fallen Angels, like, hey, you want to know how to call us in? Yeah.

Dude. When you're standing at a portal, I'm sure there's something that comes right, pops its head through the portal, and it's like, hey, want to know how to do this? Give me your soul. Okay, cool.

Give me your soul. I mean, I was talking to yesterday was Jay Woodward from Woodward TV. Check out his channel, by the way. It's awesome if you haven't. And he was talking. about that as well and the idea that these things will pop in and or no not to pop in but like at the

highest levels of society whatever you want to call it is like this top tier 1% of the elite so you have like the elites and you have the elites of the elites and he thinks that those are the ones that are literally contracted to these entities through their family bloodlines and there's no getting out of it unless you're willing to accept your death and your family's death. At the highest levels, they work with these entities, whether they like it or not, because somewhere in their family history, a loyalty was given. There was an exchange, and he was talking about the idea of covenant and contractual agreement and how these beings, to us, it's like to us a verbal commitment is a verbal commitment.

It can be broken. but for them it's like no that's that's literally in blood it's signed sealed and delivered and so your lineage is tied to this and if you want out say you you you come to Christ you are you are literally sealing your physical

fate but also your family's fate moving forward which is you can see the human side of that where it's just like it's kind of hard to say yeah go ahead and kill my kids yeah yeah there's There seems to be this show that has been mentioned a few times that Derek and I would say, like you've said, you've watched one episode. Hold on.

It's, uh, is it on that Netflix show? Nope. Try again. Well, it, it was on Netflix. I think it's on Netflix. What is it? Evil. I can't watch evil.

It scares me too much. Scary. Go ahead, Jack. No, no, no, I was just saying. Is that the show you're talking about? Yeah, because it talks about the 64 families that have ties that are at the top that, you know. I should watch the show. All demonic bloodlines.

They serve specific entities per family. I can't watch it alone. I need somebody to watch it with me and shield me from the scary parts. That first episode, man, freaked me out. I'm like, I don't know what you're on heart. That thing is not fake. It is real. It is 100% real.

Like when that door closes and that entity comes walking towards that woman's bed, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. It's actually like a guy in a suit, like full makeup. So there's like no AI to it at all. That's what makes it so weird. I scared the crap out. I don't know what you're up. I was probably watching it by myself at night.

Oh, he was actually. I think it was when I was sleeping on the couch when Ben was first born because I was driving truck and I couldn't sleep with my wife because she had Ben and so I just slept alone. I was watching Netflix to follow him. I was like, oh, evil sounds like a good idea of midnight. Yeah. Sounds perfect. I did an ad for this.

I should watch it. Ah! Scared the crap out of me. Yeah, it's a priest, and then there's an Indian guy or a Pakistani guy who's like a scientist and they have a psychologist and they like... Yeah. They get sent by the Vatican, but by the Catholic Church. It was on Paramount Plus. And I think it's on Netflix now.

So evil and dark is the other one you guys keep telling me to watch. Yeah. Okay. So evil and dark is on their list. It's been on the list for several years. You'll talk about like stuff happening and you be in the, you know, attack by things. You probably shouldn't watch stuff like that. I know.

That's probably in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fair. But, uh, I don't. I don't think that's going to stop the tax. I'm just saying it's a way to invite it.

I don't know if it is. I mean, it definitely is, actually. But I don't know for my case. Like, there's so many different paths. Tony just doesn't like being told what to do. That's true. I don't. I'll come to my own conclusion five months later thinking it's my idea.

You know, guys, I have a great idea. I don't think we should watch evil no more. It's probably the TV shows. It'll start with God told me. God told me. Sad off. Awkwardly like Jack and Derek, but God told me.

Yeah. All right, guys. Well, listen, I think this was a fun conversation that we had. Went way longer than I anticipated what it was like two-hour show and I wanted to be an hour

to an hour and a half. Josh has to go and pick up his kids from daycare. And I don't know if that's true, but I'm just making it up. But I appreciate everybody, you know, running with me on this conversation. I hope you guys enjoyed it.

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